<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_03_0616246</id>
	<title>Brain-Control Gaming Headset Launching Dec. 21</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1259835600000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"Controlling computers with our minds may sound like science fiction, but one Australian company claims to be able to let you do just that. The Emotiv device has been garnering attention at trade shows and conferences <a href="https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/08/02/20/1314254/Brain-Control-Headset-for-Gamers">for several years</a>, and now the company says <a href="http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/161891,future-tech-interview-with-emotiv-co-founder-nam-do-and-the-science-behind-mind-control.aspx">it is set to launch the Emotiv EPOC headset on December 21</a>. PC Authority spoke to co-founder Nam Do about the Emotiv technology and its potential as a mainstream gaming interface."</i>
One wonders what kind of adoption they expect with a $299 price tag.</htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " Controlling computers with our minds may sound like science fiction , but one Australian company claims to be able to let you do just that .
The Emotiv device has been garnering attention at trade shows and conferences for several years , and now the company says it is set to launch the Emotiv EPOC headset on December 21 .
PC Authority spoke to co-founder Nam Do about the Emotiv technology and its potential as a mainstream gaming interface .
" One wonders what kind of adoption they expect with a $ 299 price tag .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "Controlling computers with our minds may sound like science fiction, but one Australian company claims to be able to let you do just that.
The Emotiv device has been garnering attention at trade shows and conferences for several years, and now the company says it is set to launch the Emotiv EPOC headset on December 21.
PC Authority spoke to co-founder Nam Do about the Emotiv technology and its potential as a mainstream gaming interface.
"
One wonders what kind of adoption they expect with a $299 price tag.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30311878</id>
	<title>Lawsuit coming in 3...2....</title>
	<author>thePowerOfGrayskull</author>
	<datestamp>1259862060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I looked into creating such a system a few years ago.   After a bit of research, I decided I wasn't that brave -- certainyl the technology existed even then to do it, but here's what I ran into: requiring a person to learn (via biofeedback) to force certain brainwave patterns, and to repeat them often and for long periods of time, is not necessarily a Good Idea.  What research I could find at the time showed that there may be potentially negative effects (inducing epilepsy was one such, in people who had no prior history). But more than that, I mostly found a huge unknown - there were few real studies on how this could affect a person.
<p>
Until such a device can interpret thoughts as we have them, without requiring the user to "think" certain patterns... I think I'll hold off on buying mine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I looked into creating such a system a few years ago .
After a bit of research , I decided I was n't that brave -- certainyl the technology existed even then to do it , but here 's what I ran into : requiring a person to learn ( via biofeedback ) to force certain brainwave patterns , and to repeat them often and for long periods of time , is not necessarily a Good Idea .
What research I could find at the time showed that there may be potentially negative effects ( inducing epilepsy was one such , in people who had no prior history ) .
But more than that , I mostly found a huge unknown - there were few real studies on how this could affect a person .
Until such a device can interpret thoughts as we have them , without requiring the user to " think " certain patterns... I think I 'll hold off on buying mine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I looked into creating such a system a few years ago.
After a bit of research, I decided I wasn't that brave -- certainyl the technology existed even then to do it, but here's what I ran into: requiring a person to learn (via biofeedback) to force certain brainwave patterns, and to repeat them often and for long periods of time, is not necessarily a Good Idea.
What research I could find at the time showed that there may be potentially negative effects (inducing epilepsy was one such, in people who had no prior history).
But more than that, I mostly found a huge unknown - there were few real studies on how this could affect a person.
Until such a device can interpret thoughts as we have them, without requiring the user to "think" certain patterns... I think I'll hold off on buying mine.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30308800</id>
	<title>Bypassing normal I/O mechanisms of the brain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259839680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Given the little knowledge I have of neural network functioning, I would assume that using this gizmo can change your brain wiring in previously unknown ways. of course, any learning does it, too, but this is the first time you bypass the normal I/O mechanisms of the brain (a.k.a. senses and muscles). So, I'll just wait and see while more courageous guys will try it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Given the little knowledge I have of neural network functioning , I would assume that using this gizmo can change your brain wiring in previously unknown ways .
of course , any learning does it , too , but this is the first time you bypass the normal I/O mechanisms of the brain ( a.k.a .
senses and muscles ) .
So , I 'll just wait and see while more courageous guys will try it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given the little knowledge I have of neural network functioning, I would assume that using this gizmo can change your brain wiring in previously unknown ways.
of course, any learning does it, too, but this is the first time you bypass the normal I/O mechanisms of the brain (a.k.a.
senses and muscles).
So, I'll just wait and see while more courageous guys will try it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30318498</id>
	<title>Re:Could be a half-decent toy, if priced well</title>
	<author>Beefmancer</author>
	<datestamp>1259843400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>As someone *else* familiar with BCI research, I can back that up, $299 would be a good deal if the software is any better than openEEG.  Buyers should be aware however that their website makes some really far-out claims for the device, and that the marketing is realllly shady.  Plus, as I've pointed out here before, I've heard firsthand from one of the biggest names in the field that he met with the President of this company who failed to demonstrate that this device could do anything.  Even the best in academia can get only wobbly control in 2d...  thus the odds are very low that their 2d cursor control, even with tons of practice and a bald head, is going to be good enough for shooters.<br> <br>

To give them credit though, it might be good enough for pac-man!  And if done properly it could get kids excited about neuroscience.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As someone * else * familiar with BCI research , I can back that up , $ 299 would be a good deal if the software is any better than openEEG .
Buyers should be aware however that their website makes some really far-out claims for the device , and that the marketing is realllly shady .
Plus , as I 've pointed out here before , I 've heard firsthand from one of the biggest names in the field that he met with the President of this company who failed to demonstrate that this device could do anything .
Even the best in academia can get only wobbly control in 2d... thus the odds are very low that their 2d cursor control , even with tons of practice and a bald head , is going to be good enough for shooters .
To give them credit though , it might be good enough for pac-man !
And if done properly it could get kids excited about neuroscience .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As someone *else* familiar with BCI research, I can back that up, $299 would be a good deal if the software is any better than openEEG.
Buyers should be aware however that their website makes some really far-out claims for the device, and that the marketing is realllly shady.
Plus, as I've pointed out here before, I've heard firsthand from one of the biggest names in the field that he met with the President of this company who failed to demonstrate that this device could do anything.
Even the best in academia can get only wobbly control in 2d...  thus the odds are very low that their 2d cursor control, even with tons of practice and a bald head, is going to be good enough for shooters.
To give them credit though, it might be good enough for pac-man!
And if done properly it could get kids excited about neuroscience.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309682</id>
	<title>what about Stephen Hawking?</title>
	<author>plaukas pyragely</author>
	<datestamp>1259852580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wonder why he hasn't got anything like this yet. He's probably not into gaming, but it might help comunicating<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder why he has n't got anything like this yet .
He 's probably not into gaming , but it might help comunicating ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder why he hasn't got anything like this yet.
He's probably not into gaming, but it might help comunicating ;)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30310394</id>
	<title>As Penny Arcade put it...</title>
	<author>Dr. Manhattan</author>
	<datestamp>1259856900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Emotiv's Epoc mind controller device thing doesn't allow you to control other people's minds, which I think is a disappointment to everyone." (<a href="http://www.penny-arcade.com/2009/11/13/" title="penny-arcade.com">Here</a> [penny-arcade.com].)
<p>
There are also... <a href="http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/11/13/" title="penny-arcade.com">power issues</a> [penny-arcade.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Emotiv 's Epoc mind controller device thing does n't allow you to control other people 's minds , which I think is a disappointment to everyone .
" ( Here [ penny-arcade.com ] .
) There are also... power issues [ penny-arcade.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Emotiv's Epoc mind controller device thing doesn't allow you to control other people's minds, which I think is a disappointment to everyone.
" (Here [penny-arcade.com].
)

There are also... power issues [penny-arcade.com].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309284</id>
	<title>Misleading</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259847960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Should be brain-controll<b>ed</b></htmltext>
<tokenext>Should be brain-controlled</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Should be brain-controlled</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30356126</id>
	<title>Re:NIA out for a year.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260215400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>Controlling computers with our minds may sound like science fiction, but one Australian company claims to be able to let you do just that.</p></div><p>Am I missing something here? <a href="http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/ocz\_peripherals/nia-neural\_impulse\_actuator" title="ocztechnology.com" rel="nofollow">OCZ's Neural Impulse Actuator</a> [ocztechnology.com], a similar product, has been out since for about a year.</p></div><p>Sure has, but NIA consists of like, three electrodes, and is fucking terrible at everything. This is supposedly better, but I'll wait for some more reliable reviews before I put down any cash.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Controlling computers with our minds may sound like science fiction , but one Australian company claims to be able to let you do just that.Am I missing something here ?
OCZ 's Neural Impulse Actuator [ ocztechnology.com ] , a similar product , has been out since for about a year.Sure has , but NIA consists of like , three electrodes , and is fucking terrible at everything .
This is supposedly better , but I 'll wait for some more reliable reviews before I put down any cash .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Controlling computers with our minds may sound like science fiction, but one Australian company claims to be able to let you do just that.Am I missing something here?
OCZ's Neural Impulse Actuator [ocztechnology.com], a similar product, has been out since for about a year.Sure has, but NIA consists of like, three electrodes, and is fucking terrible at everything.
This is supposedly better, but I'll wait for some more reliable reviews before I put down any cash.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30310054</id>
	<title>Re:What will the finished product look like?</title>
	<author>dido</author>
	<datestamp>1259855220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The squids from Strange Days are essentially the same as the simstim units you see in William Gibson's Cyberspace Trilogy.  Sensory output devices used for passive viewing.  This is a crude version of the input system of a cyberspace deck, which is supposed to interact with the user's thoughts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The squids from Strange Days are essentially the same as the simstim units you see in William Gibson 's Cyberspace Trilogy .
Sensory output devices used for passive viewing .
This is a crude version of the input system of a cyberspace deck , which is supposed to interact with the user 's thoughts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The squids from Strange Days are essentially the same as the simstim units you see in William Gibson's Cyberspace Trilogy.
Sensory output devices used for passive viewing.
This is a crude version of the input system of a cyberspace deck, which is supposed to interact with the user's thoughts.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309272</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30310904</id>
	<title>Re:what about Stephen Hawking?</title>
	<author>jameskojiro</author>
	<datestamp>1259858940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think it would only be accepted by him if it came with a robotic exoskeleton.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it would only be accepted by him if it came with a robotic exoskeleton .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it would only be accepted by him if it came with a robotic exoskeleton.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30310384</id>
	<title>us customers only bullshit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259856840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>us customers only. i hope they die from cancer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>us customers only .
i hope they die from cancer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>us customers only.
i hope they die from cancer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309196</id>
	<title>Other software?</title>
	<author>amnezick</author>
	<datestamp>1259846640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>How about BrainCoding? Anyone interested in writing code with your brain?
<br> <br>
Oh<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. over here. Pick me Pick me</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about BrainCoding ?
Anyone interested in writing code with your brain ?
Oh .. over here .
Pick me Pick me</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about BrainCoding?
Anyone interested in writing code with your brain?
Oh .. over here.
Pick me Pick me</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309556</id>
	<title>Other Applications</title>
	<author>smitty777</author>
	<datestamp>1259851680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm a bit surprised (or maybe not) that the focus of the discussions has been on the gaming aspect of the device.  I know it's not perfect, there are a lot of bugs to work out, and it's been around for a while,  but I can see tremendous application and potential for this technology. This could provide quadriplegics with access to software, allow another interaction pathway for those with their hands occupied on critical tasks (pilots, surgeons, police).</p><p>I wonder how much the hand gestures were required to move the objects?  I'm sure it's a way to "cognitively prime the pump" at this point, but could it be done without the gestures? Or could someone learn to do it without them?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm a bit surprised ( or maybe not ) that the focus of the discussions has been on the gaming aspect of the device .
I know it 's not perfect , there are a lot of bugs to work out , and it 's been around for a while , but I can see tremendous application and potential for this technology .
This could provide quadriplegics with access to software , allow another interaction pathway for those with their hands occupied on critical tasks ( pilots , surgeons , police ) .I wonder how much the hand gestures were required to move the objects ?
I 'm sure it 's a way to " cognitively prime the pump " at this point , but could it be done without the gestures ?
Or could someone learn to do it without them ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm a bit surprised (or maybe not) that the focus of the discussions has been on the gaming aspect of the device.
I know it's not perfect, there are a lot of bugs to work out, and it's been around for a while,  but I can see tremendous application and potential for this technology.
This could provide quadriplegics with access to software, allow another interaction pathway for those with their hands occupied on critical tasks (pilots, surgeons, police).I wonder how much the hand gestures were required to move the objects?
I'm sure it's a way to "cognitively prime the pump" at this point, but could it be done without the gestures?
Or could someone learn to do it without them?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30313468</id>
	<title>ADD therapy with this device</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259867340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am wondering if the included software will allow for EEG "band-specific" information to be derived from these devices.

My daughter has ADD and could not use medications due to the severe side-effects  she experienced, so we worked with some pioneering folks in the treatment uaing direct EEG bio-feedback training.

Simplistically, ADD is a neurological condition where the active, cognitive brainwave activity found in most people is essentially "drowned out" by a typically lesser "volume" band of brainwave activity.  "Beta" brainwave frequencies normally increase in intensity when concentrating, and "Theta" decrease in "normal" people. For ADD people, the theta band increases significantly with concentration, and essentially disrupts the beta activity of concentration.  Through the biofeedback which helped my daughter to increase beta activity and lower theta, or at least significantly control its increase, she developed much better ability to concentrate and focus at will, and the common negative behaviors associated with ADD diminished or dissappeared.

If this device offers the ability to track and display the core "bands" of brainwave frequencies commonly associated with the different types of activity, it could place this level of reinforcement of the "cognitive" frequencies in reach of many people that otherwise might not have the benefit.

I'd certainly enjoy using it for gaming myself, and just for the experimentation value - I see daydreams of remote telepresence with a brain-controlled robotic surrogate and lots of other possibilities.  The benefit that my daughter was able to recieve from the recognition and self-regulation of the neurological patterning of the ADD was so life-changing for her that I would very much like to see this available at such a reasonable cost compared to the therapy sessions she required.

Obviously, this is nothing to do without proper direction from a therapist with experience, but the daily practice at home and as needed could d4efinitely improve the effectiveness for those that can benefit from this treatment.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am wondering if the included software will allow for EEG " band-specific " information to be derived from these devices .
My daughter has ADD and could not use medications due to the severe side-effects she experienced , so we worked with some pioneering folks in the treatment uaing direct EEG bio-feedback training .
Simplistically , ADD is a neurological condition where the active , cognitive brainwave activity found in most people is essentially " drowned out " by a typically lesser " volume " band of brainwave activity .
" Beta " brainwave frequencies normally increase in intensity when concentrating , and " Theta " decrease in " normal " people .
For ADD people , the theta band increases significantly with concentration , and essentially disrupts the beta activity of concentration .
Through the biofeedback which helped my daughter to increase beta activity and lower theta , or at least significantly control its increase , she developed much better ability to concentrate and focus at will , and the common negative behaviors associated with ADD diminished or dissappeared .
If this device offers the ability to track and display the core " bands " of brainwave frequencies commonly associated with the different types of activity , it could place this level of reinforcement of the " cognitive " frequencies in reach of many people that otherwise might not have the benefit .
I 'd certainly enjoy using it for gaming myself , and just for the experimentation value - I see daydreams of remote telepresence with a brain-controlled robotic surrogate and lots of other possibilities .
The benefit that my daughter was able to recieve from the recognition and self-regulation of the neurological patterning of the ADD was so life-changing for her that I would very much like to see this available at such a reasonable cost compared to the therapy sessions she required .
Obviously , this is nothing to do without proper direction from a therapist with experience , but the daily practice at home and as needed could d4efinitely improve the effectiveness for those that can benefit from this treatment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am wondering if the included software will allow for EEG "band-specific" information to be derived from these devices.
My daughter has ADD and could not use medications due to the severe side-effects  she experienced, so we worked with some pioneering folks in the treatment uaing direct EEG bio-feedback training.
Simplistically, ADD is a neurological condition where the active, cognitive brainwave activity found in most people is essentially "drowned out" by a typically lesser "volume" band of brainwave activity.
"Beta" brainwave frequencies normally increase in intensity when concentrating, and "Theta" decrease in "normal" people.
For ADD people, the theta band increases significantly with concentration, and essentially disrupts the beta activity of concentration.
Through the biofeedback which helped my daughter to increase beta activity and lower theta, or at least significantly control its increase, she developed much better ability to concentrate and focus at will, and the common negative behaviors associated with ADD diminished or dissappeared.
If this device offers the ability to track and display the core "bands" of brainwave frequencies commonly associated with the different types of activity, it could place this level of reinforcement of the "cognitive" frequencies in reach of many people that otherwise might not have the benefit.
I'd certainly enjoy using it for gaming myself, and just for the experimentation value - I see daydreams of remote telepresence with a brain-controlled robotic surrogate and lots of other possibilities.
The benefit that my daughter was able to recieve from the recognition and self-regulation of the neurological patterning of the ADD was so life-changing for her that I would very much like to see this available at such a reasonable cost compared to the therapy sessions she required.
Obviously, this is nothing to do without proper direction from a therapist with experience, but the daily practice at home and as needed could d4efinitely improve the effectiveness for those that can benefit from this treatment.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309474</id>
	<title>Re:Obligatory</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259850900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One thing is for sure, laptops are mainstream, pda are almost mainstream, so nerds have to find something else to look nerdy<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p><p>The real thing would be to use this to open windows, drive the TV, turn the lights on, read and send email...</p><p>How about update twitter:<br>"I'm feeling happy" of course you are, your brain reader measured it!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One thing is for sure , laptops are mainstream , pda are almost mainstream , so nerds have to find something else to look nerdy ; ) The real thing would be to use this to open windows , drive the TV , turn the lights on , read and send email...How about update twitter : " I 'm feeling happy " of course you are , your brain reader measured it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One thing is for sure, laptops are mainstream, pda are almost mainstream, so nerds have to find something else to look nerdy ;)The real thing would be to use this to open windows, drive the TV, turn the lights on, read and send email...How about update twitter:"I'm feeling happy" of course you are, your brain reader measured it!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309218</id>
	<title>Actually it does.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259846940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Of course. Since it's gaming device, Linux enthusiast are their main market.</p></div><p>Actually, they are also targeted neuro- and psycho- scientist who might be interested in such a mass marketed, dead-cheap(*), over-simplified EEG.<br>The company provides <a href="http://www.emotiv.com/developers.html" title="emotiv.com">SDK</a> [emotiv.com], which are also usable on Linux.</p><p>It's the exact same situation as with GPU, which are both consumer mass product for playing games (OpenGL &amp; DX) *and* are interesting to scientist looking for cheap of-the-shelf parts (for OpenCL and CUDA).</p><p>(*) : The *device itself* is cheap. In order to unlock full access to all the data and let the scientist play with what they want, the free-as-in-beer SDK isn't enough and they have to pay for research SDK.<br>But still, the whole stuff isn't as expensive as medical-grade EEG installations.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course .
Since it 's gaming device , Linux enthusiast are their main market.Actually , they are also targeted neuro- and psycho- scientist who might be interested in such a mass marketed , dead-cheap ( * ) , over-simplified EEG.The company provides SDK [ emotiv.com ] , which are also usable on Linux.It 's the exact same situation as with GPU , which are both consumer mass product for playing games ( OpenGL &amp; DX ) * and * are interesting to scientist looking for cheap of-the-shelf parts ( for OpenCL and CUDA ) .
( * ) : The * device itself * is cheap .
In order to unlock full access to all the data and let the scientist play with what they want , the free-as-in-beer SDK is n't enough and they have to pay for research SDK.But still , the whole stuff is n't as expensive as medical-grade EEG installations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course.
Since it's gaming device, Linux enthusiast are their main market.Actually, they are also targeted neuro- and psycho- scientist who might be interested in such a mass marketed, dead-cheap(*), over-simplified EEG.The company provides SDK [emotiv.com], which are also usable on Linux.It's the exact same situation as with GPU, which are both consumer mass product for playing games (OpenGL &amp; DX) *and* are interesting to scientist looking for cheap of-the-shelf parts (for OpenCL and CUDA).
(*) : The *device itself* is cheap.
In order to unlock full access to all the data and let the scientist play with what they want, the free-as-in-beer SDK isn't enough and they have to pay for research SDK.But still, the whole stuff isn't as expensive as medical-grade EEG installations.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30313884</id>
	<title>In Soviet Russia......</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259868780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>game controls you!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>game controls you !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>game controls you!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30308972</id>
	<title>NIA out for a year.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259842500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Controlling computers with our minds may sound like science fiction, but one Australian company claims to be able to let you do just that.</p> </div><p>Am I missing something here? <a href="http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/ocz\_peripherals/nia-neural\_impulse\_actuator" title="ocztechnology.com" rel="nofollow">OCZ's Neural Impulse Actuator</a> [ocztechnology.com], a similar product, has been out since for about a year.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Controlling computers with our minds may sound like science fiction , but one Australian company claims to be able to let you do just that .
Am I missing something here ?
OCZ 's Neural Impulse Actuator [ ocztechnology.com ] , a similar product , has been out since for about a year .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Controlling computers with our minds may sound like science fiction, but one Australian company claims to be able to let you do just that.
Am I missing something here?
OCZ's Neural Impulse Actuator [ocztechnology.com], a similar product, has been out since for about a year.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30308784</id>
	<title>Obligatory</title>
	<author>ickleberry</author>
	<datestamp>1259839380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Does it work with Linux?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does it work with Linux ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does it work with Linux?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309722</id>
	<title>Be carefull. Access to raw EEG would cost $7000</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259853000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I looked at their website regarding license and price. If you want to have access to raw EEG, it would cost you $7000.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I looked at their website regarding license and price .
If you want to have access to raw EEG , it would cost you $ 7000 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I looked at their website regarding license and price.
If you want to have access to raw EEG, it would cost you $7000.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30313994</id>
	<title>Re:Obligatory</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259869200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>fuck linux</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>fuck linux</tokentext>
<sentencetext>fuck linux</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30308784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309670</id>
	<title>Even cooler potential</title>
	<author>hipp5</author>
	<datestamp>1259852520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you're already going to be wearing a funny headset, why not combine it with <a href="http://johnnylee.net/projects/wii/" title="johnnylee.net" rel="nofollow">Johnny Lee Chung's</a> [johnnylee.net] head tracking technology and make the ULTIMATE gaming device (assuming the tech works...)</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're already going to be wearing a funny headset , why not combine it with Johnny Lee Chung 's [ johnnylee.net ] head tracking technology and make the ULTIMATE gaming device ( assuming the tech works... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're already going to be wearing a funny headset, why not combine it with Johnny Lee Chung's [johnnylee.net] head tracking technology and make the ULTIMATE gaming device (assuming the tech works...)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30308818</id>
	<title>interesting</title>
	<author>dwarfenhoschi</author>
	<datestamp>1259839920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It will be very interesting to see how this works out.

It tested the last "Brain Control Device" (i think it was from a german company) at the Games Convention 2008 and was very surprised to see it working...with some learning of course.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It will be very interesting to see how this works out .
It tested the last " Brain Control Device " ( i think it was from a german company ) at the Games Convention 2008 and was very surprised to see it working...with some learning of course .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It will be very interesting to see how this works out.
It tested the last "Brain Control Device" (i think it was from a german company) at the Games Convention 2008 and was very surprised to see it working...with some learning of course.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30310814</id>
	<title>Everytime I Jump in Halo.....</title>
	<author>jameskojiro</author>
	<datestamp>1259858580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Memories of "special time" with my pervy uncle flood back into mind, can I sue the company for emotional damages?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Memories of " special time " with my pervy uncle flood back into mind , can I sue the company for emotional damages ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Memories of "special time" with my pervy uncle flood back into mind, can I sue the company for emotional damages?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309272</id>
	<title>What will the finished product look like?</title>
	<author>smchris</author>
	<datestamp>1259847780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Right now, it's a squid from Strange Days, which won't have as happy connotations for everyone as a StarTrek communicator.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Right now , it 's a squid from Strange Days , which wo n't have as happy connotations for everyone as a StarTrek communicator .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right now, it's a squid from Strange Days, which won't have as happy connotations for everyone as a StarTrek communicator.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309054</id>
	<title>Re:Conductant?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259844120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>We'll all get pin implants.  It's about time we turned into an alligator clip society.</htmltext>
<tokenext>We 'll all get pin implants .
It 's about time we turned into an alligator clip society .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We'll all get pin implants.
It's about time we turned into an alligator clip society.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30308812</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30311022</id>
	<title>Beware the Gaming Zombies...</title>
	<author>jameskojiro</author>
	<datestamp>1259859420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It used to be somewhat creepy to try to talk to a gamer engrossed in play because they are usually slack jawed and drooling while their hands were mashing buttons at a million miles a minute, now it will be even more creepy as they just sit there and play the game and they aren't moving, just sitting there like lumps on a log with jaws slackened and playing a game....</p><p>Just what we need, more zombie like gamers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It used to be somewhat creepy to try to talk to a gamer engrossed in play because they are usually slack jawed and drooling while their hands were mashing buttons at a million miles a minute , now it will be even more creepy as they just sit there and play the game and they are n't moving , just sitting there like lumps on a log with jaws slackened and playing a game....Just what we need , more zombie like gamers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It used to be somewhat creepy to try to talk to a gamer engrossed in play because they are usually slack jawed and drooling while their hands were mashing buttons at a million miles a minute, now it will be even more creepy as they just sit there and play the game and they aren't moving, just sitting there like lumps on a log with jaws slackened and playing a game....Just what we need, more zombie like gamers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309044</id>
	<title>Niche product for now</title>
	<author>ensignyu</author>
	<datestamp>1259844060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It doesn't matter if it costs $300. I'm sure they'll be able to find people willing to pay that much as long as it's not complete garbage.</p><p>I mean, if you look at amBX, it's basically a bunch of glowy LED lights and a speaker system, and it runs in about the same price range.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It does n't matter if it costs $ 300 .
I 'm sure they 'll be able to find people willing to pay that much as long as it 's not complete garbage.I mean , if you look at amBX , it 's basically a bunch of glowy LED lights and a speaker system , and it runs in about the same price range .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It doesn't matter if it costs $300.
I'm sure they'll be able to find people willing to pay that much as long as it's not complete garbage.I mean, if you look at amBX, it's basically a bunch of glowy LED lights and a speaker system, and it runs in about the same price range.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30308808</id>
	<title>Could be a half-decent toy, if priced well</title>
	<author>EdZ</author>
	<datestamp>1259839860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Looks like it actually is approaching a reasonable number of electrodes, unlike other the bunch of other 'brain control' devices (a pair of electrodes on your forehead does not an effective EEG make). Still too few for any sort of fine control, but you might just be able to get 2d bang-bang direction control going with a large amount of practice.
<br>Of course, if it costs something ridiculous, then it's probably easier to <a href="http://openeeg.sourceforge.net/doc/" title="sourceforge.net">make your own</a> [sourceforge.net].</htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like it actually is approaching a reasonable number of electrodes , unlike other the bunch of other 'brain control ' devices ( a pair of electrodes on your forehead does not an effective EEG make ) .
Still too few for any sort of fine control , but you might just be able to get 2d bang-bang direction control going with a large amount of practice .
Of course , if it costs something ridiculous , then it 's probably easier to make your own [ sourceforge.net ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looks like it actually is approaching a reasonable number of electrodes, unlike other the bunch of other 'brain control' devices (a pair of electrodes on your forehead does not an effective EEG make).
Still too few for any sort of fine control, but you might just be able to get 2d bang-bang direction control going with a large amount of practice.
Of course, if it costs something ridiculous, then it's probably easier to make your own [sourceforge.net].</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309216</id>
	<title>High price tag?  bah</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259846940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>$299 is not a high price tag.  I clearly remember any gaming console experience I wanted to try was *always* around the ~$300 pricetag, from the last two decades of even recently (Xbox360, PS3, Wii, etc.).  The main points in any survival and success of a gaming system is:  1)  NOT being a hyped up, terrible design and cumbersome usability, 2) It's unique and starts a mad, new and wild gaming experience that everyone wants to try (a la Guitar Hero/Rockband) because point #1 lived up to it's purpose.</htmltext>
<tokenext>$ 299 is not a high price tag .
I clearly remember any gaming console experience I wanted to try was * always * around the ~ $ 300 pricetag , from the last two decades of even recently ( Xbox360 , PS3 , Wii , etc. ) .
The main points in any survival and success of a gaming system is : 1 ) NOT being a hyped up , terrible design and cumbersome usability , 2 ) It 's unique and starts a mad , new and wild gaming experience that everyone wants to try ( a la Guitar Hero/Rockband ) because point # 1 lived up to it 's purpose .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>$299 is not a high price tag.
I clearly remember any gaming console experience I wanted to try was *always* around the ~$300 pricetag, from the last two decades of even recently (Xbox360, PS3, Wii, etc.).
The main points in any survival and success of a gaming system is:  1)  NOT being a hyped up, terrible design and cumbersome usability, 2) It's unique and starts a mad, new and wild gaming experience that everyone wants to try (a la Guitar Hero/Rockband) because point #1 lived up to it's purpose.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30310206</id>
	<title>Re:Movies that the inventors don't want to talk ab</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259855880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We don't have the clarity or resolution to come anywhere close to surreptitiously scanning brains, however. Hell, we don't even know how the brain works beyond a rudimentary "this area does this, that area does that" level. These devices look for specific patterns related to very active thought processes. It also probably takes a good while to train them to pick up what you want them to pick up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We do n't have the clarity or resolution to come anywhere close to surreptitiously scanning brains , however .
Hell , we do n't even know how the brain works beyond a rudimentary " this area does this , that area does that " level .
These devices look for specific patterns related to very active thought processes .
It also probably takes a good while to train them to pick up what you want them to pick up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We don't have the clarity or resolution to come anywhere close to surreptitiously scanning brains, however.
Hell, we don't even know how the brain works beyond a rudimentary "this area does this, that area does that" level.
These devices look for specific patterns related to very active thought processes.
It also probably takes a good while to train them to pick up what you want them to pick up.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30308854</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309580</id>
	<title>Re:Great video</title>
	<author>smitty777</author>
	<datestamp>1259851860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't think you were paying very close attention to the video, really.  You can see that he is keeping his head pretty still during some of the moves.  I believe the gyroscope is just providing locational information to the system.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think you were paying very close attention to the video , really .
You can see that he is keeping his head pretty still during some of the moves .
I believe the gyroscope is just providing locational information to the system .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think you were paying very close attention to the video, really.
You can see that he is keeping his head pretty still during some of the moves.
I believe the gyroscope is just providing locational information to the system.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30308820</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309720</id>
	<title>Re:Movies that the inventors don't want to talk ab</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259853000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Batman Forever</p></div><p>Also apt: "Movies that the viewers don't want to talk about"</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Batman ForeverAlso apt : " Movies that the viewers do n't want to talk about "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Batman ForeverAlso apt: "Movies that the viewers don't want to talk about"
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30308854</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309296</id>
	<title>Re:Great video</title>
	<author>jo42</author>
	<datestamp>1259848200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You would look rather silly with an iPhone or iPod touch duct taped to your head...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You would look rather silly with an iPhone or iPod touch duct taped to your head.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You would look rather silly with an iPhone or iPod touch duct taped to your head...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30308820</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309856</id>
	<title>I have something similar...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259854020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The ocz nia was the big thing last year with similar hardware (one less front sensor if i remember..):  , and I tried it out in Call of Duty 4...<br>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPfYDCNoy1c</p><p>The problem with them I found over time was that the calibration, or setup time was too long. It could take 5-10 minutes to get your mind for a lack of a better word, going well enough to get a good consistent enough reading. And the more commands you have mapped to your brainwaves, the harder you have to focus too - after 4-5 commands worth, you really need to focus a lot.</p><p>Good to see how their driver software goes - OCZ's software was excellent, although because it is wired, it has the problem of not being grounded properly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The ocz nia was the big thing last year with similar hardware ( one less front sensor if i remember.. ) : , and I tried it out in Call of Duty 4...http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = zPfYDCNoy1cThe problem with them I found over time was that the calibration , or setup time was too long .
It could take 5-10 minutes to get your mind for a lack of a better word , going well enough to get a good consistent enough reading .
And the more commands you have mapped to your brainwaves , the harder you have to focus too - after 4-5 commands worth , you really need to focus a lot.Good to see how their driver software goes - OCZ 's software was excellent , although because it is wired , it has the problem of not being grounded properly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The ocz nia was the big thing last year with similar hardware (one less front sensor if i remember..):  , and I tried it out in Call of Duty 4...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPfYDCNoy1cThe problem with them I found over time was that the calibration, or setup time was too long.
It could take 5-10 minutes to get your mind for a lack of a better word, going well enough to get a good consistent enough reading.
And the more commands you have mapped to your brainwaves, the harder you have to focus too - after 4-5 commands worth, you really need to focus a lot.Good to see how their driver software goes - OCZ's software was excellent, although because it is wired, it has the problem of not being grounded properly.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30308938</id>
	<title>The release is perfectly timed</title>
	<author>Rogerborg</author>
	<datestamp>1259841960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>By which I mean that purchasers won't have time to find out that it's a useless POS trinket until it's too late to return it.  Nice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>By which I mean that purchasers wo n't have time to find out that it 's a useless POS trinket until it 's too late to return it .
Nice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By which I mean that purchasers won't have time to find out that it's a useless POS trinket until it's too late to return it.
Nice.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30308894</id>
	<title>Re:Conductant?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259841300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Back when I had regular EEGs a technician would spend about ten minutes squeezing conductive cream onto my scalp</p></div><p>Conductive cream? Is that what you kids are calling it these days?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Back when I had regular EEGs a technician would spend about ten minutes squeezing conductive cream onto my scalpConductive cream ?
Is that what you kids are calling it these days ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Back when I had regular EEGs a technician would spend about ten minutes squeezing conductive cream onto my scalpConductive cream?
Is that what you kids are calling it these days?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30308812</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30308816</id>
	<title>NIA</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259839920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't there already NIA from OCZ? How is this different?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't there already NIA from OCZ ?
How is this different ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't there already NIA from OCZ?
How is this different?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309238</id>
	<title>Re:Conductant?</title>
	<author>vosester</author>
	<datestamp>1259847240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That&rsquo;s what we need at FPS LAN parties, A bunch of nerds showing up with skinheads.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That    s what we need at FPS LAN parties , A bunch of nerds showing up with skinheads .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That’s what we need at FPS LAN parties, A bunch of nerds showing up with skinheads.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30308812</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309566</id>
	<title>If this really worked for WoW</title>
	<author>Zantac69</author>
	<datestamp>1259851800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...it would probably automatically zoom to 3rd person, remove all armor/clothing, and hold at just the right angle for fapovision for all the guys playing night elf/bloood elf females.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...it would probably automatically zoom to 3rd person , remove all armor/clothing , and hold at just the right angle for fapovision for all the guys playing night elf/bloood elf females .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...it would probably automatically zoom to 3rd person, remove all armor/clothing, and hold at just the right angle for fapovision for all the guys playing night elf/bloood elf females.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30312172</id>
	<title>Re:Could be a half-decent toy, if priced well</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259862900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have the development release and the electrodes use cotton-like "wicks", which are wetted with saline. While I am not familiar with other EEG devices, this does not require an external amplifier, and is connected wirelessly to a USB dongle.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have the development release and the electrodes use cotton-like " wicks " , which are wetted with saline .
While I am not familiar with other EEG devices , this does not require an external amplifier , and is connected wirelessly to a USB dongle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have the development release and the electrodes use cotton-like "wicks", which are wetted with saline.
While I am not familiar with other EEG devices, this does not require an external amplifier, and is connected wirelessly to a USB dongle.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309140</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30311936</id>
	<title>Re:Misleading</title>
	<author>thePowerOfGrayskull</author>
	<datestamp>1259862180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Should be brain-controll<b>ed</b></p> </div><p>That's just what they want you to think<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Should be brain-controlled That 's just what they want you to think ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Should be brain-controlled That's just what they want you to think ;)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309284</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309330</id>
	<title>Brain-Control Gaming Headset</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259848680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>is Yuri's favorite toy!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>is Yuri 's favorite toy !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>is Yuri's favorite toy!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30308908</id>
	<title>Re:Obligatory</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259841480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Of course. Since it's gaming device, Linux enthusiast are their main market.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course .
Since it 's gaming device , Linux enthusiast are their main market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course.
Since it's gaming device, Linux enthusiast are their main market.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30308784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30312116</id>
	<title>Re:Other Applications</title>
	<author>BJ\_Covert\_Action</author>
	<datestamp>1259862720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That was my first thought actually. One of my closest friends growing up was diagnosed with ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease) and is now bedridden with absolutely no muscle movement capability at the age of 23. He has been watching TV for about a year now and, while most of us try to visit him as often as possible, living 200+ miles away makes that difficult. I can only imagine the hellish boredom that kid goes through to pass the time. That being said, a cap that he could wear to play video games would at least give him one more thing to do....
<br> <br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>....
<br> <br>
Fuck neurological diseases...</htmltext>
<tokenext>That was my first thought actually .
One of my closest friends growing up was diagnosed with ALS ( Lou Gehrig 's Disease ) and is now bedridden with absolutely no muscle movement capability at the age of 23 .
He has been watching TV for about a year now and , while most of us try to visit him as often as possible , living 200 + miles away makes that difficult .
I can only imagine the hellish boredom that kid goes through to pass the time .
That being said , a cap that he could wear to play video games would at least give him one more thing to do... . ... . Fuck neurological diseases.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That was my first thought actually.
One of my closest friends growing up was diagnosed with ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease) and is now bedridden with absolutely no muscle movement capability at the age of 23.
He has been watching TV for about a year now and, while most of us try to visit him as often as possible, living 200+ miles away makes that difficult.
I can only imagine the hellish boredom that kid goes through to pass the time.
That being said, a cap that he could wear to play video games would at least give him one more thing to do....
  ....
 
Fuck neurological diseases...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309556</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30312546</id>
	<title>Angelic Layer</title>
	<author>SnarfQuest</author>
	<datestamp>1259864040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One step closer to being able to play Angelic Layer.</p><p>I claim dibs on the electric shock whips!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One step closer to being able to play Angelic Layer.I claim dibs on the electric shock whips !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One step closer to being able to play Angelic Layer.I claim dibs on the electric shock whips!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30308814</id>
	<title>Nia?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259839860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is not new, just recently there was the Nia</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is not new , just recently there was the Nia</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is not new, just recently there was the Nia</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309222</id>
	<title>Re:Obligatory</title>
	<author>Abreu</author>
	<datestamp>1259847000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Also obligatory:</p><p>"I love the Emotiv EPOC headset, it's so bad"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Also obligatory : " I love the Emotiv EPOC headset , it 's so bad "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also obligatory:"I love the Emotiv EPOC headset, it's so bad"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30308784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309100</id>
	<title>Re:Conductant?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259845080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Two words:   binding posts</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Two words : binding posts</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Two words:   binding posts</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30308812</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309588</id>
	<title>Only your mind... and lots of gesturing.</title>
	<author>astat</author>
	<datestamp>1259851920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There are two videos embedded in the linked article.<p>

The first one is an utter fail, leading to moments of awkward silence during the official presentation.
</p><p>
The second one shows a guy performing simple taks: Moving a block into a certain direction. He does so not without making use of appropriate gestures: He either pushes imaginary obstacles away with his hand, lifts them up, or rotates them by circling his finger (block starts moving after 5 seconds or so)...
</p><p>
The system surely has potential. As of now, however, you can obviously pull off but a few simple stunts with high latency. The device is a gimmick, with a high-end price tag. A lot needs to be done in terms of calibration and fine-tuning to the specific user, which is probably possible; some day. The december release is a joke.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are two videos embedded in the linked article .
The first one is an utter fail , leading to moments of awkward silence during the official presentation .
The second one shows a guy performing simple taks : Moving a block into a certain direction .
He does so not without making use of appropriate gestures : He either pushes imaginary obstacles away with his hand , lifts them up , or rotates them by circling his finger ( block starts moving after 5 seconds or so ) .. . The system surely has potential .
As of now , however , you can obviously pull off but a few simple stunts with high latency .
The device is a gimmick , with a high-end price tag .
A lot needs to be done in terms of calibration and fine-tuning to the specific user , which is probably possible ; some day .
The december release is a joke .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are two videos embedded in the linked article.
The first one is an utter fail, leading to moments of awkward silence during the official presentation.
The second one shows a guy performing simple taks: Moving a block into a certain direction.
He does so not without making use of appropriate gestures: He either pushes imaginary obstacles away with his hand, lifts them up, or rotates them by circling his finger (block starts moving after 5 seconds or so)...

The system surely has potential.
As of now, however, you can obviously pull off but a few simple stunts with high latency.
The device is a gimmick, with a high-end price tag.
A lot needs to be done in terms of calibration and fine-tuning to the specific user, which is probably possible; some day.
The december release is a joke.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30314242</id>
	<title>Re:Could be a half-decent toy, if priced well</title>
	<author>wmain</author>
	<datestamp>1259870220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>To quote their PDF "There is also the issue that brain research has advanced but we are not too concerned with the dissection
of the signals into specific origins of neuronal / muscular groups, rather, as mentioned above, it is the
synergism of all physiological activities that is the critical signal we are trying to read and understand to
the point where we can use it."

<a href="http://www.ocztechnology.com/files/misc\_products/NIA\_complete\_English.pdf" title="ocztechnology.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ocztechnology.com/files/misc\_products/NIA\_complete\_English.pdf</a> [ocztechnology.com]

also "The new headbands we are using embrace sensors based on carbon nanofibers that are about 100 times
more sensitive than older technology. This allows for a much wider dynamic range and also to pick up
signals that were completely masked in previous approaches and that makes the use much more intuitive
and easier."</div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>To quote their PDF " There is also the issue that brain research has advanced but we are not too concerned with the dissection of the signals into specific origins of neuronal / muscular groups , rather , as mentioned above , it is the synergism of all physiological activities that is the critical signal we are trying to read and understand to the point where we can use it .
" http : //www.ocztechnology.com/files/misc \ _products/NIA \ _complete \ _English.pdf [ ocztechnology.com ] also " The new headbands we are using embrace sensors based on carbon nanofibers that are about 100 times more sensitive than older technology .
This allows for a much wider dynamic range and also to pick up signals that were completely masked in previous approaches and that makes the use much more intuitive and easier .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To quote their PDF "There is also the issue that brain research has advanced but we are not too concerned with the dissection
of the signals into specific origins of neuronal / muscular groups, rather, as mentioned above, it is the
synergism of all physiological activities that is the critical signal we are trying to read and understand to
the point where we can use it.
"

http://www.ocztechnology.com/files/misc\_products/NIA\_complete\_English.pdf [ocztechnology.com]

also "The new headbands we are using embrace sensors based on carbon nanofibers that are about 100 times
more sensitive than older technology.
This allows for a much wider dynamic range and also to pick up
signals that were completely masked in previous approaches and that makes the use much more intuitive
and easier.
"
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309140</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30308990</id>
	<title>another wasted opportunity</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259842860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i can imagine using that as a complementary device.<br>playing an RPG (normal interaction via keyboard/mouse) and casting spells by thinking about fire would surely help the immersion. Getting better in imagining stuff for the spells could fit nicely into the skill progression of the character.</p><p>but such devices never get such cool usage. they get some waggle/natal/eyetoy shovelware and stop being interesting as the novelty wears off.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i can imagine using that as a complementary device.playing an RPG ( normal interaction via keyboard/mouse ) and casting spells by thinking about fire would surely help the immersion .
Getting better in imagining stuff for the spells could fit nicely into the skill progression of the character.but such devices never get such cool usage .
they get some waggle/natal/eyetoy shovelware and stop being interesting as the novelty wears off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i can imagine using that as a complementary device.playing an RPG (normal interaction via keyboard/mouse) and casting spells by thinking about fire would surely help the immersion.
Getting better in imagining stuff for the spells could fit nicely into the skill progression of the character.but such devices never get such cool usage.
they get some waggle/natal/eyetoy shovelware and stop being interesting as the novelty wears off.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30310998</id>
	<title>Best Pocket Pool device</title>
	<author>OCURServant</author>
	<datestamp>1259859300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Uhh it will make you a better pocket billiards player for sure!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Uhh it will make you a better pocket billiards player for sure !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uhh it will make you a better pocket billiards player for sure!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30312704</id>
	<title>Re:Bypassing normal I/O mechanisms of the brain</title>
	<author>Kratisto</author>
	<datestamp>1259864580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Unless it's shocking you in the brain, it's not bypassing the senses. You're still looking at a screen.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unless it 's shocking you in the brain , it 's not bypassing the senses .
You 're still looking at a screen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unless it's shocking you in the brain, it's not bypassing the senses.
You're still looking at a screen.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30308800</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30314732</id>
	<title>Re:Misleading</title>
	<author>kybred</author>
	<datestamp>1259872320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Should be brain-controll<b>ed</b></p> </div><p>
Are you sure? </p><p>

Maybe it's to let the game control your brain! Wonder if it will work through my tin-foil hat?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Should be brain-controlled Are you sure ?
Maybe it 's to let the game control your brain !
Wonder if it will work through my tin-foil hat ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Should be brain-controlled 
Are you sure?
Maybe it's to let the game control your brain!
Wonder if it will work through my tin-foil hat?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309284</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30308812</id>
	<title>Conductant?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259839860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Back when I had regular EEGs a technician would spend about ten minutes squeezing conductive cream onto my scalp before clipping the electrodes on. If you don't use a conductive liquid your signal is going to have to pass through your hair, which doesn't sound good for their N/N ratio. So what's it going to be? Shaved heads or washing your hair after gaming?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Back when I had regular EEGs a technician would spend about ten minutes squeezing conductive cream onto my scalp before clipping the electrodes on .
If you do n't use a conductive liquid your signal is going to have to pass through your hair , which does n't sound good for their N/N ratio .
So what 's it going to be ?
Shaved heads or washing your hair after gaming ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Back when I had regular EEGs a technician would spend about ten minutes squeezing conductive cream onto my scalp before clipping the electrodes on.
If you don't use a conductive liquid your signal is going to have to pass through your hair, which doesn't sound good for their N/N ratio.
So what's it going to be?
Shaved heads or washing your hair after gaming?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30310860</id>
	<title>You mean you have to use your hands.....</title>
	<author>jameskojiro</author>
	<datestamp>1259858760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That is a like a Baby's toy.....</p><p>This is what they were talking about in Back to the Future part II....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is a like a Baby 's toy.....This is what they were talking about in Back to the Future part II... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is a like a Baby's toy.....This is what they were talking about in Back to the Future part II....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309898</id>
	<title>Everyone who buys this will love it!</title>
	<author>Bocaj</author>
	<datestamp>1259854380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Really, everyone wearing one of these will swear,<blockquote><div><p>"Emotiv is the greatest company ever.  I love all of their products.  I am mortgaging my house to purchase more of their products. Emotiv is my friend.  Emotive is good."</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Really , everyone wearing one of these will swear , " Emotiv is the greatest company ever .
I love all of their products .
I am mortgaging my house to purchase more of their products .
Emotiv is my friend .
Emotive is good .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really, everyone wearing one of these will swear,"Emotiv is the greatest company ever.
I love all of their products.
I am mortgaging my house to purchase more of their products.
Emotiv is my friend.
Emotive is good.
"
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309806</id>
	<title>Wife Ammo</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259853720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My wife already makes fun of me when I wear a headset....can't imagine what she would say if I wore this...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My wife already makes fun of me when I wear a headset....ca n't imagine what she would say if I wore this.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My wife already makes fun of me when I wear a headset....can't imagine what she would say if I wore this...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30308854</id>
	<title>Movies that the inventors don't want to talk about</title>
	<author>FranTaylor</author>
	<datestamp>1259840640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Batman Forever<br>Futurama: Into the Wild Green Yonder<br>The Spongebob Squarepants Movie</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Batman ForeverFuturama : Into the Wild Green YonderThe Spongebob Squarepants Movie</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Batman ForeverFuturama: Into the Wild Green YonderThe Spongebob Squarepants Movie</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309140</id>
	<title>Re:Could be a half-decent toy, if priced well</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259845860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As someone who has done research int brain-computer interfaces, most BCI devices created for games are really measuring EMG, which is electrical noise created by muscle movements. A pair of electrodes on your forehead can only really effectively measure small muscle movements in your forehead.</p><p>On the other hand, this looks like a regular 16 electrode cap with one ground and one reference.</p><p>I wonder how they bypassed the need for gel...</p><p>By the way, $299 is actually a fairly reasonable price for a good cap. I wonder what the biological amplifier costs, though. If it is included in the price (or within the cap) then $299 really is a very good price for such a device.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As someone who has done research int brain-computer interfaces , most BCI devices created for games are really measuring EMG , which is electrical noise created by muscle movements .
A pair of electrodes on your forehead can only really effectively measure small muscle movements in your forehead.On the other hand , this looks like a regular 16 electrode cap with one ground and one reference.I wonder how they bypassed the need for gel...By the way , $ 299 is actually a fairly reasonable price for a good cap .
I wonder what the biological amplifier costs , though .
If it is included in the price ( or within the cap ) then $ 299 really is a very good price for such a device .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As someone who has done research int brain-computer interfaces, most BCI devices created for games are really measuring EMG, which is electrical noise created by muscle movements.
A pair of electrodes on your forehead can only really effectively measure small muscle movements in your forehead.On the other hand, this looks like a regular 16 electrode cap with one ground and one reference.I wonder how they bypassed the need for gel...By the way, $299 is actually a fairly reasonable price for a good cap.
I wonder what the biological amplifier costs, though.
If it is included in the price (or within the cap) then $299 really is a very good price for such a device.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30308808</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_0616246.30309094</id>
	<title>Re:Could be a half-decent toy, if priced well</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1259844960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>From that site: "The cost of a complete system is 200 to 400 USD. The exact figure depends a lot on where you buy parts from, and whether you buy or make your own electrodes."<br> <br>I'll take the one made in a factory ty very much. Nice thing is that these devices are (oddly enough) fairly simple. So even if they give us nothing making OSS/drivers off of the emotive device will probably not be a big problem.</htmltext>
<tokenext>From that site : " The cost of a complete system is 200 to 400 USD .
The exact figure depends a lot on where you buy parts from , and whether you buy or make your own electrodes .
" I 'll take the one made in a factory ty very much .
Nice thing is that these devices are ( oddly enough ) fairly simple .
So even if they give us nothing making OSS/drivers off of the emotive device will probably not be a big problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From that site: "The cost of a complete system is 200 to 400 USD.
The exact figure depends a lot on where you buy parts from, and whether you buy or make your own electrodes.
" I'll take the one made in a factory ty very much.
Nice thing is that these devices are (oddly enough) fairly simple.
So even if they give us nothing making OSS/drivers off of the emotive device will probably not be a big problem.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Great video</title>
	<author>BadAnalogyGuy</author>
	<datestamp>1259839920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>After watching the video, a very specific quotation comes to mind.</p><p>Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo.<br>- Andy Finkel</p><p>If you look at the hardware itself, there is a gyroscope attached. Hence, when the fat white guy wants to lift the stone, he leans his head back. I suppose you are to watch him wave his hands, but the real action is going on literally on his head.</p><p>Now if someone could build an iPhone app that can do this, we'd have all the same functionality at an even higher price!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>After watching the video , a very specific quotation comes to mind.Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo.- Andy FinkelIf you look at the hardware itself , there is a gyroscope attached .
Hence , when the fat white guy wants to lift the stone , he leans his head back .
I suppose you are to watch him wave his hands , but the real action is going on literally on his head.Now if someone could build an iPhone app that can do this , we 'd have all the same functionality at an even higher price !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After watching the video, a very specific quotation comes to mind.Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo.- Andy FinkelIf you look at the hardware itself, there is a gyroscope attached.
Hence, when the fat white guy wants to lift the stone, he leans his head back.
I suppose you are to watch him wave his hands, but the real action is going on literally on his head.Now if someone could build an iPhone app that can do this, we'd have all the same functionality at an even higher price!</sentencetext>
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	<title>Stephen Hawking, for one.</title>
	<author>svtdragon</author>
	<datestamp>1259858220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It seems like the frustrating lag between thinking it and being able to "type" it out with less and less mobility would be greatly reduced with something like this.  I think it's a *huge* contribution on the part of this company if the scientific community, for example, can continue to make use of Stephen Hawking's brilliant mind as his motor function continues to deteriorate.  Which is, of course, to put aside the obvious implications for communication by others in physically incapacitated states.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems like the frustrating lag between thinking it and being able to " type " it out with less and less mobility would be greatly reduced with something like this .
I think it 's a * huge * contribution on the part of this company if the scientific community , for example , can continue to make use of Stephen Hawking 's brilliant mind as his motor function continues to deteriorate .
Which is , of course , to put aside the obvious implications for communication by others in physically incapacitated states .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems like the frustrating lag between thinking it and being able to "type" it out with less and less mobility would be greatly reduced with something like this.
I think it's a *huge* contribution on the part of this company if the scientific community, for example, can continue to make use of Stephen Hawking's brilliant mind as his motor function continues to deteriorate.
Which is, of course, to put aside the obvious implications for communication by others in physically incapacitated states.</sentencetext>
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