<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_02_1913213</id>
	<title>Danish DRM Breaker Turns Himself In To Test Backup Law</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1259783580000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>coaxial writes <i>"In Denmark, it's legal to make copies of commercial videos for backup or other private purposes. It's also illegal to break the DRM that restricts copying of DVDs. Deciding to find out which law mattered, Henrik Anderson <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-group-refuses-bait-drm-breaker-goes-to-the-police-091201/">reported himself for 100 violations of the DRM-breaking law</a> (he ripped his DVD collection to his computer) and demanded that the Danish anti-piracy Antipiratgruppen do something about it. They promised him a response, then didn't respond. So now he's reporting himself to the police. He wants a trial, so that the legality of the DRM-breaking law can be tested in court."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>coaxial writes " In Denmark , it 's legal to make copies of commercial videos for backup or other private purposes .
It 's also illegal to break the DRM that restricts copying of DVDs .
Deciding to find out which law mattered , Henrik Anderson reported himself for 100 violations of the DRM-breaking law ( he ripped his DVD collection to his computer ) and demanded that the Danish anti-piracy Antipiratgruppen do something about it .
They promised him a response , then did n't respond .
So now he 's reporting himself to the police .
He wants a trial , so that the legality of the DRM-breaking law can be tested in court .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>coaxial writes "In Denmark, it's legal to make copies of commercial videos for backup or other private purposes.
It's also illegal to break the DRM that restricts copying of DVDs.
Deciding to find out which law mattered, Henrik Anderson reported himself for 100 violations of the DRM-breaking law (he ripped his DVD collection to his computer) and demanded that the Danish anti-piracy Antipiratgruppen do something about it.
They promised him a response, then didn't respond.
So now he's reporting himself to the police.
He wants a trial, so that the legality of the DRM-breaking law can be tested in court.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30303820</id>
	<title>Re:Lightweight!</title>
	<author>berashith</author>
	<datestamp>1259579700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, someone will be pissed when the request to see the hard drive shows thousands of movies and his disc collection that was backed up doesnt quite match up title for title.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , someone will be pissed when the request to see the hard drive shows thousands of movies and his disc collection that was backed up doesnt quite match up title for title .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, someone will be pissed when the request to see the hard drive shows thousands of movies and his disc collection that was backed up doesnt quite match up title for title.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301704</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30304274</id>
	<title>Re:That Dude is My Hero!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259581200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>He's not a whining sniveling cowardly hypocrite like the Pirate Bay defendants.</p><p>This guy's putting it on the line.  Does he have a defense fund that can be contributed to?</p></div><p>This is his site (in Danish): http://www.enfrustreretforbruger.dk/home/</p><p>There's a donation button.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>He 's not a whining sniveling cowardly hypocrite like the Pirate Bay defendants.This guy 's putting it on the line .
Does he have a defense fund that can be contributed to ? This is his site ( in Danish ) : http : //www.enfrustreretforbruger.dk/home/There 's a donation button .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He's not a whining sniveling cowardly hypocrite like the Pirate Bay defendants.This guy's putting it on the line.
Does he have a defense fund that can be contributed to?This is his site (in Danish): http://www.enfrustreretforbruger.dk/home/There's a donation button.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301730</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301184</id>
	<title>this is brave</title>
	<author>mrvan</author>
	<datestamp>1259614500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is really brave. Not just rant about how stupid a law is, or how unenforceable, and then just break it. But break it, deliberately turn yourself in, and show how stupid/unenforceable the law is.</p><p>From an egoistic short-term perspective this is probably seen as just stupid, but this is the way to actually enact some changes.</p><p>Bravo!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is really brave .
Not just rant about how stupid a law is , or how unenforceable , and then just break it .
But break it , deliberately turn yourself in , and show how stupid/unenforceable the law is.From an egoistic short-term perspective this is probably seen as just stupid , but this is the way to actually enact some changes.Bravo !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is really brave.
Not just rant about how stupid a law is, or how unenforceable, and then just break it.
But break it, deliberately turn yourself in, and show how stupid/unenforceable the law is.From an egoistic short-term perspective this is probably seen as just stupid, but this is the way to actually enact some changes.Bravo!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30302510</id>
	<title>What I want to know is</title>
	<author>lanadapter </author>
	<datestamp>1259575560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>How does he fit through his door with such massive balls?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How does he fit through his door with such massive balls ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How does he fit through his door with such massive balls?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30302110</id>
	<title>Re:Won't Loving Work.</title>
	<author>Delwin</author>
	<datestamp>1259574480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>In the US bankruptcy cannot get rid of your student loans or any civil penalties.  Huge civil penalties are actually worse than jail time because a few years in jail and you get out and have a chance to start over (barring Felonies which have other issues).  Even life sentences usually have some possibility of parole.  Huge civil penalties here and you are never going to have more than substance levels of money ever again.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the US bankruptcy can not get rid of your student loans or any civil penalties .
Huge civil penalties are actually worse than jail time because a few years in jail and you get out and have a chance to start over ( barring Felonies which have other issues ) .
Even life sentences usually have some possibility of parole .
Huge civil penalties here and you are never going to have more than substance levels of money ever again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the US bankruptcy cannot get rid of your student loans or any civil penalties.
Huge civil penalties are actually worse than jail time because a few years in jail and you get out and have a chance to start over (barring Felonies which have other issues).
Even life sentences usually have some possibility of parole.
Huge civil penalties here and you are never going to have more than substance levels of money ever again.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301364</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301670</id>
	<title>Re:Won't Loving Work.</title>
	<author>Absolut187</author>
	<datestamp>1259573040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or more likely, the prosecutor's office will just ignore him.</p><p>Typically the solution that requires the least effort is the one that government bureaucrats will choose.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or more likely , the prosecutor 's office will just ignore him.Typically the solution that requires the least effort is the one that government bureaucrats will choose .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or more likely, the prosecutor's office will just ignore him.Typically the solution that requires the least effort is the one that government bureaucrats will choose.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301364</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301460</id>
	<title>too much time on his hands</title>
	<author>thelonious</author>
	<datestamp>1259572260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I guess some people don't have to worry about making a living?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess some people do n't have to worry about making a living ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess some people don't have to worry about making a living?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301204</id>
	<title>Kudos</title>
	<author>overshoot</author>
	<datestamp>1259614560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Civil disobedience done right.  The world would be a better place if more of us (and I'm specifically pointing to empty-nest geezers like that one in the mirror) had the <i>cojones</i> to do similarly rather than constantly bitching.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Civil disobedience done right .
The world would be a better place if more of us ( and I 'm specifically pointing to empty-nest geezers like that one in the mirror ) had the cojones to do similarly rather than constantly bitching .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Civil disobedience done right.
The world would be a better place if more of us (and I'm specifically pointing to empty-nest geezers like that one in the mirror) had the cojones to do similarly rather than constantly bitching.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30305644</id>
	<title>the northerners have found the tao</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259586900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>there were burning monks and prague students, there was the little man bulldozing a whole fucking town and some other guy smacking two skyscrapers and all it takes for a dane is to confess for a petty crime. outrage!! that's twice as badass as is drawing a caricature.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>there were burning monks and prague students , there was the little man bulldozing a whole fucking town and some other guy smacking two skyscrapers and all it takes for a dane is to confess for a petty crime .
outrage ! ! that 's twice as badass as is drawing a caricature .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>there were burning monks and prague students, there was the little man bulldozing a whole fucking town and some other guy smacking two skyscrapers and all it takes for a dane is to confess for a petty crime.
outrage!! that's twice as badass as is drawing a caricature.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301796</id>
	<title>missing tag for this article</title>
	<author>Errtu76</author>
	<datestamp>1259573460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>IANAL<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. really</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IANAL .. really</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IANAL .. really</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30302326</id>
	<title>A martyr or a...</title>
	<author>diitante</author>
	<datestamp>1259575020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>noble idiot?</htmltext>
<tokenext>noble idiot ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>noble idiot?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30302204</id>
	<title>Re:Kudos</title>
	<author>Dan667</author>
	<datestamp>1259574720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am guessing damages in Denmark for DRM breaking are more reasonable like a fine of a bunch of tulips or a tin of those little butter cookies.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am guessing damages in Denmark for DRM breaking are more reasonable like a fine of a bunch of tulips or a tin of those little butter cookies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am guessing damages in Denmark for DRM breaking are more reasonable like a fine of a bunch of tulips or a tin of those little butter cookies.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301406</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30305378</id>
	<title>Re:I do live in Denmark</title>
	<author>TangoMargarine</author>
	<datestamp>1259585580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How is a copy on hard disk not permanent? Is "permanent" defined in this context as "you can unplug the component, wait 5 minutes, plug it back in, and the data's still there" like with RAM, or "this DVD-R is permanent because I cannot write to it again"? (I'm not being sarcastic; I actually want to know.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>How is a copy on hard disk not permanent ?
Is " permanent " defined in this context as " you can unplug the component , wait 5 minutes , plug it back in , and the data 's still there " like with RAM , or " this DVD-R is permanent because I can not write to it again " ?
( I 'm not being sarcastic ; I actually want to know .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How is a copy on hard disk not permanent?
Is "permanent" defined in this context as "you can unplug the component, wait 5 minutes, plug it back in, and the data's still there" like with RAM, or "this DVD-R is permanent because I cannot write to it again"?
(I'm not being sarcastic; I actually want to know.
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30302372</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30308320</id>
	<title>Re:I do live in Denmark</title>
	<author>JustNiz</author>
	<datestamp>1259831520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt; How is a copy on hard disk not permanent?</p><p>Uhh because you can erase it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; How is a copy on hard disk not permanent ? Uhh because you can erase it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt; How is a copy on hard disk not permanent?Uhh because you can erase it?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30305378</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30306168</id>
	<title>Reminds me of the Scopes Trial</title>
	<author>Dudeman\_Jones</author>
	<datestamp>1259590140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Scopes trial started pretty much this way too</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Scopes trial started pretty much this way too</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Scopes trial started pretty much this way too</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30306576</id>
	<title>Re:Medical but not food as a basic right is amusin</title>
	<author>AK Marc</author>
	<datestamp>1259593440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Medical but not food as a basic right is amusing;</i> <br> <br>Yes, it is silly.  Food needs to be taken care of first.  I agree so strongly that I will push for the US to move towards a plan for helping people get food before we finish getting health care.  I was thinking, since it would be impractical for the government so deliver the food personally, that those in need could just get vouchers for the food, and get those in regular stores.  Personally, I would start the program with coupons that would be exchanged for the good in question, in common sizes in the stores, and just have one item per coupon.  The sheets of coupons would look suspiciously like postal stamps, so we could just call it Marc's Food Stamp program.  But not until the government provides basic support for food would I consider any medical care.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Medical but not food as a basic right is amusing ; Yes , it is silly .
Food needs to be taken care of first .
I agree so strongly that I will push for the US to move towards a plan for helping people get food before we finish getting health care .
I was thinking , since it would be impractical for the government so deliver the food personally , that those in need could just get vouchers for the food , and get those in regular stores .
Personally , I would start the program with coupons that would be exchanged for the good in question , in common sizes in the stores , and just have one item per coupon .
The sheets of coupons would look suspiciously like postal stamps , so we could just call it Marc 's Food Stamp program .
But not until the government provides basic support for food would I consider any medical care .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Medical but not food as a basic right is amusing;  Yes, it is silly.
Food needs to be taken care of first.
I agree so strongly that I will push for the US to move towards a plan for helping people get food before we finish getting health care.
I was thinking, since it would be impractical for the government so deliver the food personally, that those in need could just get vouchers for the food, and get those in regular stores.
Personally, I would start the program with coupons that would be exchanged for the good in question, in common sizes in the stores, and just have one item per coupon.
The sheets of coupons would look suspiciously like postal stamps, so we could just call it Marc's Food Stamp program.
But not until the government provides basic support for food would I consider any medical care.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30303710</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30302556</id>
	<title>Re:Kudos</title>
	<author>SheepFister</author>
	<datestamp>1259575740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This guy has balls the size of a small planet... Good on him, it will be interesting to see what comes of this.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This guy has balls the size of a small planet... Good on him , it will be interesting to see what comes of this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This guy has balls the size of a small planet... Good on him, it will be interesting to see what comes of this.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301204</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30307884</id>
	<title>Re:Kudos</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259607840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Civil disobedience done right." - Funny how civil disobedience is okay when it follows your beliefs.  When you dis-agree with the stance, THEY'RE F'ING CRIMINALS!!!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Civil disobedience done right .
" - Funny how civil disobedience is okay when it follows your beliefs .
When you dis-agree with the stance , THEY 'RE F'ING CRIMINALS ! ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Civil disobedience done right.
" - Funny how civil disobedience is okay when it follows your beliefs.
When you dis-agree with the stance, THEY'RE F'ING CRIMINALS!!!!
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301204</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301364</id>
	<title>Won't Loving Work.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259571900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He's just going to be slapped with an unreasonable fine he can't pay and then he will have to file for bankruptcy or some such thing. Courts are fine with giving out unreasonable fines because "hey, at least it's not jail time." However, fines can make it impossible for you to pay your bills, even if you are allowed to pay them off over a period of time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He 's just going to be slapped with an unreasonable fine he ca n't pay and then he will have to file for bankruptcy or some such thing .
Courts are fine with giving out unreasonable fines because " hey , at least it 's not jail time .
" However , fines can make it impossible for you to pay your bills , even if you are allowed to pay them off over a period of time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He's just going to be slapped with an unreasonable fine he can't pay and then he will have to file for bankruptcy or some such thing.
Courts are fine with giving out unreasonable fines because "hey, at least it's not jail time.
" However, fines can make it impossible for you to pay your bills, even if you are allowed to pay them off over a period of time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30303240</id>
	<title>WHAT?</title>
	<author>Kingrames</author>
	<datestamp>1259577840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>This Danish guy just... Turned himself in? My god, someone save him! Doesn't he know that cops EAT DANISHES?</htmltext>
<tokenext>This Danish guy just... Turned himself in ?
My god , someone save him !
Does n't he know that cops EAT DANISHES ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This Danish guy just... Turned himself in?
My god, someone save him!
Doesn't he know that cops EAT DANISHES?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30302532</id>
	<title>Re:Won't Loving Work.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259575620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wasn't there a $100,000 speeding ticket in Finland a few years back?<br>
Putting speeding in the same class as murder?<br>
Or did I just mis-remember that?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Was n't there a $ 100,000 speeding ticket in Finland a few years back ?
Putting speeding in the same class as murder ?
Or did I just mis-remember that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wasn't there a $100,000 speeding ticket in Finland a few years back?
Putting speeding in the same class as murder?
Or did I just mis-remember that?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301760</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30305580</id>
	<title>Re:Lightweight!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259586540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One would hope that he doesn't have a collection of movies (or anything else copyrighted) downloaded via bittorrent, since it would:</p><p>a) Significantly increase the likelihood that he will be charged and convicted,<br>b) Increase the damages awarded if charged and convicted, and, worst of all,<br>c) Completely fuck up the test by introducing an extra factor into the court's decision</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One would hope that he does n't have a collection of movies ( or anything else copyrighted ) downloaded via bittorrent , since it would : a ) Significantly increase the likelihood that he will be charged and convicted,b ) Increase the damages awarded if charged and convicted , and , worst of all,c ) Completely fuck up the test by introducing an extra factor into the court 's decision</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One would hope that he doesn't have a collection of movies (or anything else copyrighted) downloaded via bittorrent, since it would:a) Significantly increase the likelihood that he will be charged and convicted,b) Increase the damages awarded if charged and convicted, and, worst of all,c) Completely fuck up the test by introducing an extra factor into the court's decision</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301704</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30302672</id>
	<title>The laws do not conflict.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259576040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can copy the data in its raw form and therefore have your right to have a backup without decrypting it and breaking the DRM on the data.</p><p>This guy is going to get owned.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can copy the data in its raw form and therefore have your right to have a backup without decrypting it and breaking the DRM on the data.This guy is going to get owned .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can copy the data in its raw form and therefore have your right to have a backup without decrypting it and breaking the DRM on the data.This guy is going to get owned.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30308950</id>
	<title>Re:Kudos</title>
	<author>Splab</author>
	<datestamp>1259842080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Prisons in Denmark are generally considered holiday resorts (except for "maximum security" (gangs, bikers et.al)). You have the right to have internet installed in your cell, there are common rooms with consoles and tellies, you get healthy food and depending on the prison you can actually walk outside during the day.</p><p>Most inmates in Denmark have better living condition than students in Denmark do.</p><p>If you end up in maximum security and aren't member of a gang it usually means you killed someone or sexually assaulted someone, if the latter prison wont be fun.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Prisons in Denmark are generally considered holiday resorts ( except for " maximum security " ( gangs , bikers et.al ) ) .
You have the right to have internet installed in your cell , there are common rooms with consoles and tellies , you get healthy food and depending on the prison you can actually walk outside during the day.Most inmates in Denmark have better living condition than students in Denmark do.If you end up in maximum security and are n't member of a gang it usually means you killed someone or sexually assaulted someone , if the latter prison wont be fun .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Prisons in Denmark are generally considered holiday resorts (except for "maximum security" (gangs, bikers et.al)).
You have the right to have internet installed in your cell, there are common rooms with consoles and tellies, you get healthy food and depending on the prison you can actually walk outside during the day.Most inmates in Denmark have better living condition than students in Denmark do.If you end up in maximum security and aren't member of a gang it usually means you killed someone or sexually assaulted someone, if the latter prison wont be fun.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301360</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30302068</id>
	<title>Re:Won't Loving Work.</title>
	<author>Meneguzzi</author>
	<datestamp>1259574360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>But on the flipside, in Scandinavia (and most of Europe) if you need a hospital or support for some physical limitation, you won't have to pay through your nose to get it, as this is seen as a basic human right. In the US, if you need constant medical attention and you don't have a steady revenue stream (or a big hoard of cash) you are pretty much screwed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>But on the flipside , in Scandinavia ( and most of Europe ) if you need a hospital or support for some physical limitation , you wo n't have to pay through your nose to get it , as this is seen as a basic human right .
In the US , if you need constant medical attention and you do n't have a steady revenue stream ( or a big hoard of cash ) you are pretty much screwed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But on the flipside, in Scandinavia (and most of Europe) if you need a hospital or support for some physical limitation, you won't have to pay through your nose to get it, as this is seen as a basic human right.
In the US, if you need constant medical attention and you don't have a steady revenue stream (or a big hoard of cash) you are pretty much screwed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301760</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30303992</id>
	<title>Declaratory Judgement</title>
	<author>ikegami</author>
	<datestamp>1259580240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Isn't that what Declaratory Judgements are for? Or are those just for civil issues?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't that what Declaratory Judgements are for ?
Or are those just for civil issues ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't that what Declaratory Judgements are for?
Or are those just for civil issues?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301760</id>
	<title>Re:Won't Loving Work.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259573340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dude, this is Scandinavia. We don't award insane damages here, in fact we generally give way too little IMO. People that have had their lives completely ruined, like 20 years innocent in prison get less than a million dollars. Murderers are often only required to pay 100-200k$ in damages. That is one of the reasons the TPB case became such a big deal in Sweden, for Americans a little over 4 million dollars is not that unusual, around here it's unheard of. There was for example here in Norway just recently about a 16 year old who got the biggest insurance payout ever after a traffic accident - 11.6 MNOK = 2.08 million USD. Still not much when he's probably got another 60 years to live and will need special care for the rest of his life.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dude , this is Scandinavia .
We do n't award insane damages here , in fact we generally give way too little IMO .
People that have had their lives completely ruined , like 20 years innocent in prison get less than a million dollars .
Murderers are often only required to pay 100-200k $ in damages .
That is one of the reasons the TPB case became such a big deal in Sweden , for Americans a little over 4 million dollars is not that unusual , around here it 's unheard of .
There was for example here in Norway just recently about a 16 year old who got the biggest insurance payout ever after a traffic accident - 11.6 MNOK = 2.08 million USD .
Still not much when he 's probably got another 60 years to live and will need special care for the rest of his life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dude, this is Scandinavia.
We don't award insane damages here, in fact we generally give way too little IMO.
People that have had their lives completely ruined, like 20 years innocent in prison get less than a million dollars.
Murderers are often only required to pay 100-200k$ in damages.
That is one of the reasons the TPB case became such a big deal in Sweden, for Americans a little over 4 million dollars is not that unusual, around here it's unheard of.
There was for example here in Norway just recently about a 16 year old who got the biggest insurance payout ever after a traffic accident - 11.6 MNOK = 2.08 million USD.
Still not much when he's probably got another 60 years to live and will need special care for the rest of his life.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301364</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30305458</id>
	<title>Re:I do live in Denmark</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259586000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Temporary copy" caveats in copyright laws are almost always meant to exclusively apply to copies in main memory, video cache, and things like that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Temporary copy " caveats in copyright laws are almost always meant to exclusively apply to copies in main memory , video cache , and things like that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Temporary copy" caveats in copyright laws are almost always meant to exclusively apply to copies in main memory, video cache, and things like that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30302372</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30302858</id>
	<title>They did respond...</title>
	<author>slimjim8094</author>
	<datestamp>1259576700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>he just couldn't hear it over the sound of his gong-size balls knocking together.</p><p>Seriously. I want to buy this guy a beer.</p><p>It seems likely the police/DA are going to be like "what, are you stupid?" and not prosecute the case. But in that case, I should hope that attitude gets used as precedent - if nobody cares enough to do anything to this guy, even when he makes it so easy, why should they do it to someone who makes it hard?</p><p>(the preceding is essentially American law, apologies in advance for where it doesn't apply)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>he just could n't hear it over the sound of his gong-size balls knocking together.Seriously .
I want to buy this guy a beer.It seems likely the police/DA are going to be like " what , are you stupid ?
" and not prosecute the case .
But in that case , I should hope that attitude gets used as precedent - if nobody cares enough to do anything to this guy , even when he makes it so easy , why should they do it to someone who makes it hard ?
( the preceding is essentially American law , apologies in advance for where it does n't apply )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>he just couldn't hear it over the sound of his gong-size balls knocking together.Seriously.
I want to buy this guy a beer.It seems likely the police/DA are going to be like "what, are you stupid?
" and not prosecute the case.
But in that case, I should hope that attitude gets used as precedent - if nobody cares enough to do anything to this guy, even when he makes it so easy, why should they do it to someone who makes it hard?
(the preceding is essentially American law, apologies in advance for where it doesn't apply)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30302890</id>
	<title>Re:Kudos</title>
	<author>Nyder</author>
	<datestamp>1259576820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I don't know what the repercussions are in Denmark but here in the US when you see FBI warnings before a movie stating you'll be fined $150,000 and 10 years in a PMITA prison... I'd rather just keep my mouth shut and let someone who actually got caught challenge the system.</p></div><p>And it's because of views like yours that the world gets into the mess it's in.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know what the repercussions are in Denmark but here in the US when you see FBI warnings before a movie stating you 'll be fined $ 150,000 and 10 years in a PMITA prison... I 'd rather just keep my mouth shut and let someone who actually got caught challenge the system.And it 's because of views like yours that the world gets into the mess it 's in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know what the repercussions are in Denmark but here in the US when you see FBI warnings before a movie stating you'll be fined $150,000 and 10 years in a PMITA prison... I'd rather just keep my mouth shut and let someone who actually got caught challenge the system.And it's because of views like yours that the world gets into the mess it's in.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301360</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301948</id>
	<title>Antipiratgruppen</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259574000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can't help but laugh each time I say it... Antipiratgruppen, LOL.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't help but laugh each time I say it... Antipiratgruppen , LOL .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't help but laugh each time I say it... Antipiratgruppen, LOL.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30303710</id>
	<title>Medical but not food as a basic right is amusing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259579280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"if you need a hospital or support for some physical limitation, you won't have to pay through your nose to get it, as this is seen as a basic human right"</p><p>Medical but not food as a basic right is amusing; same goes for breathing, water, sex, sleep, homeostasis, and excretion.</p><p>Only after you take care of these physiological needs do you get to the next tier of Maslow's hierarchy of needs:</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's\_hierarchy\_of\_needs" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's\_hierarchy\_of\_needs</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>where "health" is located... and that's considered a safety issue, after security of: body, employment, resources, morality, and the family, only just edging out security of property.</p><p>-- Terry</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" if you need a hospital or support for some physical limitation , you wo n't have to pay through your nose to get it , as this is seen as a basic human right " Medical but not food as a basic right is amusing ; same goes for breathing , water , sex , sleep , homeostasis , and excretion.Only after you take care of these physiological needs do you get to the next tier of Maslow 's hierarchy of needs :         http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow 's \ _hierarchy \ _of \ _needs [ wikipedia.org ] where " health " is located... and that 's considered a safety issue , after security of : body , employment , resources , morality , and the family , only just edging out security of property.-- Terry</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"if you need a hospital or support for some physical limitation, you won't have to pay through your nose to get it, as this is seen as a basic human right"Medical but not food as a basic right is amusing; same goes for breathing, water, sex, sleep, homeostasis, and excretion.Only after you take care of these physiological needs do you get to the next tier of Maslow's hierarchy of needs:
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's\_hierarchy\_of\_needs [wikipedia.org]where "health" is located... and that's considered a safety issue, after security of: body, employment, resources, morality, and the family, only just edging out security of property.-- Terry</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30302068</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30305934</id>
	<title>Re:Medical but not food as a basic right is amusin</title>
	<author>qc\_dk</author>
	<datestamp>1259588640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ah, but you see in scandinavia food is already seen as a basic human right. So we have just added health in there as well.<br> <br>
On another note why is sex in the first tier? Surely that is not a basic need?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah , but you see in scandinavia food is already seen as a basic human right .
So we have just added health in there as well .
On another note why is sex in the first tier ?
Surely that is not a basic need ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah, but you see in scandinavia food is already seen as a basic human right.
So we have just added health in there as well.
On another note why is sex in the first tier?
Surely that is not a basic need?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30303710</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30304014</id>
	<title>How to support Henrik Anderson</title>
	<author>jonaskoelker</author>
	<datestamp>1259580300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you read the comments to the article, you'll note a link to Henrik's home page, <a href="http://enfrustreretforbruger.dk/" title="enfrustreretforbruger.dk">http://enfrustreretforbruger.dk/</a> [enfrustreretforbruger.dk] (which is in danish).</p><p>If you click "S&aring;dan st&oslash;tter du op om digitale kopier" (how to support digital copies), you'll see a page telling you to click the paypal link on the right hand side (of his home page) to donate any amount "for the running of enfrustreretforbruger.dk".</p><p>That would be an obvious way to support him.  There may be laws against collecting money under a false pretence (A Time To Kill says there are such laws in the US, fwiw ^\_^), so you may want to add a note to the paypal transfer saying "Hi.  Here's some money for whatever purpose you like.  You might want to spend them on lawyers etc." (although I suspect that if you give him money without saying that he can spend them for whatever he likes, you're the only one who can sue him for having taking your money under a false pretence.  IANAL, TINLA, ask a ninja, etc.)</p><p>The support page at <a href="http://enfrustreretforbruger.dk/home/?p=882" title="enfrustreretforbruger.dk">http://enfrustreretforbruger.dk/home/?p=882</a> [enfrustreretforbruger.dk] also lists putting banners on your web page, reading his twitter feed, writing to the Danish ministry of culture ("minicult"?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D), and joining a project that Ekstra Bladet (a Danish tabloid news paper) is running where you can submit your own digital copying stories.</p><p>You can also send him an email and ask how you might help.  Click on the "kontakt" (contact) link in the upper-right corner.</p><p>(I'm not going to post his email address here on slashdot since he'd get, well, slashdotted with mail.  If you really want to get in touch with him, you can take the time to click a few links.  Also, he posts his street address and phone number there, but encourages people to comment on his blog articles where relevant.)</p><p>I hope this helps, and that Google Translate can get you the rest of the way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you read the comments to the article , you 'll note a link to Henrik 's home page , http : //enfrustreretforbruger.dk/ [ enfrustreretforbruger.dk ] ( which is in danish ) .If you click " S   dan st   tter du op om digitale kopier " ( how to support digital copies ) , you 'll see a page telling you to click the paypal link on the right hand side ( of his home page ) to donate any amount " for the running of enfrustreretforbruger.dk " .That would be an obvious way to support him .
There may be laws against collecting money under a false pretence ( A Time To Kill says there are such laws in the US , fwiw ^ \ _ ^ ) , so you may want to add a note to the paypal transfer saying " Hi .
Here 's some money for whatever purpose you like .
You might want to spend them on lawyers etc .
" ( although I suspect that if you give him money without saying that he can spend them for whatever he likes , you 're the only one who can sue him for having taking your money under a false pretence .
IANAL , TINLA , ask a ninja , etc .
) The support page at http : //enfrustreretforbruger.dk/home/ ? p = 882 [ enfrustreretforbruger.dk ] also lists putting banners on your web page , reading his twitter feed , writing to the Danish ministry of culture ( " minicult " ?
: D ) , and joining a project that Ekstra Bladet ( a Danish tabloid news paper ) is running where you can submit your own digital copying stories.You can also send him an email and ask how you might help .
Click on the " kontakt " ( contact ) link in the upper-right corner .
( I 'm not going to post his email address here on slashdot since he 'd get , well , slashdotted with mail .
If you really want to get in touch with him , you can take the time to click a few links .
Also , he posts his street address and phone number there , but encourages people to comment on his blog articles where relevant .
) I hope this helps , and that Google Translate can get you the rest of the way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you read the comments to the article, you'll note a link to Henrik's home page, http://enfrustreretforbruger.dk/ [enfrustreretforbruger.dk] (which is in danish).If you click "Sådan støtter du op om digitale kopier" (how to support digital copies), you'll see a page telling you to click the paypal link on the right hand side (of his home page) to donate any amount "for the running of enfrustreretforbruger.dk".That would be an obvious way to support him.
There may be laws against collecting money under a false pretence (A Time To Kill says there are such laws in the US, fwiw ^\_^), so you may want to add a note to the paypal transfer saying "Hi.
Here's some money for whatever purpose you like.
You might want to spend them on lawyers etc.
" (although I suspect that if you give him money without saying that he can spend them for whatever he likes, you're the only one who can sue him for having taking your money under a false pretence.
IANAL, TINLA, ask a ninja, etc.
)The support page at http://enfrustreretforbruger.dk/home/?p=882 [enfrustreretforbruger.dk] also lists putting banners on your web page, reading his twitter feed, writing to the Danish ministry of culture ("minicult"?
:D), and joining a project that Ekstra Bladet (a Danish tabloid news paper) is running where you can submit your own digital copying stories.You can also send him an email and ask how you might help.
Click on the "kontakt" (contact) link in the upper-right corner.
(I'm not going to post his email address here on slashdot since he'd get, well, slashdotted with mail.
If you really want to get in touch with him, you can take the time to click a few links.
Also, he posts his street address and phone number there, but encourages people to comment on his blog articles where relevant.
)I hope this helps, and that Google Translate can get you the rest of the way.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301730</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30302174</id>
	<title>Re:Lightweight!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259574660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>DVDs downloaded with bittorrent are trivial to backup. The same goes for other sources available to those who know how to USE the NET. It's only videos acquired through MAFIAA sanctioned means that present a problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>DVDs downloaded with bittorrent are trivial to backup .
The same goes for other sources available to those who know how to USE the NET .
It 's only videos acquired through MAFIAA sanctioned means that present a problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>DVDs downloaded with bittorrent are trivial to backup.
The same goes for other sources available to those who know how to USE the NET.
It's only videos acquired through MAFIAA sanctioned means that present a problem.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301704</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30308034</id>
	<title>Re:at the risk of beating a quote into the ground</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259610240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>(Agent Smith voice)Mister Anderson.........</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>( Agent Smith voice ) Mister Anderson........ .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(Agent Smith voice)Mister Anderson.........</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30302372</id>
	<title>I do live in Denmark</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259575140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I do live in Denmark. The danish copyright laws are based upon the copyright rules from the european union, that all member states have to implement in their national laws. One of these rules state that it is allowed to circumvent the copy protection schemes if it is necessary to use the media. That is probably intended to make it possible for Linux users to play DVDs, but in this case it might also be used because if the user has a PC without a DVD drive, then it is necessary to rip the DVD with a different PC.
Another european rule states that temporary copies that are necessary for using the media are always allowed. Again in this case if the user has a PC without DVD-drive, then it is legal to store the DVD content on a harddrive (which is not a permanent copy).</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do live in Denmark .
The danish copyright laws are based upon the copyright rules from the european union , that all member states have to implement in their national laws .
One of these rules state that it is allowed to circumvent the copy protection schemes if it is necessary to use the media .
That is probably intended to make it possible for Linux users to play DVDs , but in this case it might also be used because if the user has a PC without a DVD drive , then it is necessary to rip the DVD with a different PC .
Another european rule states that temporary copies that are necessary for using the media are always allowed .
Again in this case if the user has a PC without DVD-drive , then it is legal to store the DVD content on a harddrive ( which is not a permanent copy ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do live in Denmark.
The danish copyright laws are based upon the copyright rules from the european union, that all member states have to implement in their national laws.
One of these rules state that it is allowed to circumvent the copy protection schemes if it is necessary to use the media.
That is probably intended to make it possible for Linux users to play DVDs, but in this case it might also be used because if the user has a PC without a DVD drive, then it is necessary to rip the DVD with a different PC.
Another european rule states that temporary copies that are necessary for using the media are always allowed.
Again in this case if the user has a PC without DVD-drive, then it is legal to store the DVD content on a harddrive (which is not a permanent copy).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301704</id>
	<title>Lightweight!</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1259573160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>His DVD collection consists of only 100 discs?!? How big is his collection of movies downloaded via bittorrent?</htmltext>
<tokenext>His DVD collection consists of only 100 discs ? ! ?
How big is his collection of movies downloaded via bittorrent ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>His DVD collection consists of only 100 discs?!?
How big is his collection of movies downloaded via bittorrent?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301988</id>
	<title>Re:law vs. law</title>
	<author>greensoap</author>
	<datestamp>1259574120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, looking at it from a U.S. perspective it would depend.  First you have to look at whether the laws truly contradict and who passed the laws (state v. federal).  If law A was passed by congress in 1980 and a contradictory law B was passed by congress in 1990, then law B trumps.  The courts would say that law B supersedes law A and congress intent must have been for law A not to apply any longer.  This is because congress had spoken on the issue and now says something different.  The newer law must reflect congress current intent on the law rather than out of date view of the older law.<br> <br>Now things change if we are talking about state passing a law and congress passing a law.  You have to do a whole bunch on constitutional analysis at that point.  State rights vs federal power.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , looking at it from a U.S. perspective it would depend .
First you have to look at whether the laws truly contradict and who passed the laws ( state v. federal ) . If law A was passed by congress in 1980 and a contradictory law B was passed by congress in 1990 , then law B trumps .
The courts would say that law B supersedes law A and congress intent must have been for law A not to apply any longer .
This is because congress had spoken on the issue and now says something different .
The newer law must reflect congress current intent on the law rather than out of date view of the older law .
Now things change if we are talking about state passing a law and congress passing a law .
You have to do a whole bunch on constitutional analysis at that point .
State rights vs federal power .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, looking at it from a U.S. perspective it would depend.
First you have to look at whether the laws truly contradict and who passed the laws (state v. federal).  If law A was passed by congress in 1980 and a contradictory law B was passed by congress in 1990, then law B trumps.
The courts would say that law B supersedes law A and congress intent must have been for law A not to apply any longer.
This is because congress had spoken on the issue and now says something different.
The newer law must reflect congress current intent on the law rather than out of date view of the older law.
Now things change if we are talking about state passing a law and congress passing a law.
You have to do a whole bunch on constitutional analysis at that point.
State rights vs federal power.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301212</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301502</id>
	<title>Re:law vs. law</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259572380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Both laws live in harmony. Copying the video is not illegal, breaking the DRM is.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Both laws live in harmony .
Copying the video is not illegal , breaking the DRM is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Both laws live in harmony.
Copying the video is not illegal, breaking the DRM is.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301212</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301360</id>
	<title>Re:Kudos</title>
	<author>hansamurai</author>
	<datestamp>1259571900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know what the repercussions are in Denmark but here in the US when you see FBI warnings before a movie stating you'll be fined $150,000 and 10 years in a PMITA prison... I'd rather just keep my mouth shut and let someone who actually got caught challenge the system.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know what the repercussions are in Denmark but here in the US when you see FBI warnings before a movie stating you 'll be fined $ 150,000 and 10 years in a PMITA prison... I 'd rather just keep my mouth shut and let someone who actually got caught challenge the system .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know what the repercussions are in Denmark but here in the US when you see FBI warnings before a movie stating you'll be fined $150,000 and 10 years in a PMITA prison... I'd rather just keep my mouth shut and let someone who actually got caught challenge the system.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301204</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30307824</id>
	<title>Re:Lightweight!</title>
	<author>Phyrexicaid</author>
	<datestamp>1259606880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's what I'd be worried about.  Swaggering in to test the law on the couple of items you *do* have, and they find all the music and movies you *don't* have legally.  Whoops!</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's what I 'd be worried about .
Swaggering in to test the law on the couple of items you * do * have , and they find all the music and movies you * do n't * have legally .
Whoops !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's what I'd be worried about.
Swaggering in to test the law on the couple of items you *do* have, and they find all the music and movies you *don't* have legally.
Whoops!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301704</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30308400</id>
	<title>Analog or Digital</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259832960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So - is there anything in the law stating that the allowed copy is presumed a "DIGITAL" one ?<br>If I made an analogue copy - would I be able to conform to both clauses ?<br>I would obviously be using the DRM in order to play back the media - but I would NOT be circumventing it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So - is there anything in the law stating that the allowed copy is presumed a " DIGITAL " one ? If I made an analogue copy - would I be able to conform to both clauses ? I would obviously be using the DRM in order to play back the media - but I would NOT be circumventing it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So - is there anything in the law stating that the allowed copy is presumed a "DIGITAL" one ?If I made an analogue copy - would I be able to conform to both clauses ?I would obviously be using the DRM in order to play back the media - but I would NOT be circumventing it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30308850</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259840520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sorry but if doing A is legal, but to do A you need to break law B - doesn't that make you liable for breaking B?</p><p>Thus for example, burning books is legal, but to do that you'd need to start a public outdoor bonfire which is not legal. You'd be fined for the bonfire and since burning books is legal it's just pushed to one side? (no ones cares if you don't break the law, but only the laws that you break people care about)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry but if doing A is legal , but to do A you need to break law B - does n't that make you liable for breaking B ? Thus for example , burning books is legal , but to do that you 'd need to start a public outdoor bonfire which is not legal .
You 'd be fined for the bonfire and since burning books is legal it 's just pushed to one side ?
( no ones cares if you do n't break the law , but only the laws that you break people care about )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry but if doing A is legal, but to do A you need to break law B - doesn't that make you liable for breaking B?Thus for example, burning books is legal, but to do that you'd need to start a public outdoor bonfire which is not legal.
You'd be fined for the bonfire and since burning books is legal it's just pushed to one side?
(no ones cares if you don't break the law, but only the laws that you break people care about)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30308572</id>
	<title>Re:WHAT?</title>
	<author>polle404</author>
	<datestamp>1259835960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Doesn't he know that cops EAT DANISHES?</p></div><p>In Denmark, cops eats 'Citronm&#229;ner' a nasty half circular sandcake with citrus glazing. <a href="http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citronhalvm\%C3\%A5ne" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citronhalvm\%C3\%A5ne</a> [wikipedia.org] (sorry, danish wikipedia)
<br>oh, and 'Danishes' are called 'Wienerbr&#248;d' (Bread from Vienna) in Denmark, so technically, Danes are eating Austrians when in Denmark, but Danes when in US.
</p><p>Confused yet?

<br>
<br>
And please support this guy, they've been trying to ignore him into oblivion for half a year, but some of us Danes are hoping he'll take it all the way.
Hopefully it'll hit the EU parlament.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does n't he know that cops EAT DANISHES ? In Denmark , cops eats 'Citronm   ner ' a nasty half circular sandcake with citrus glazing .
http : //da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citronhalvm \ % C3 \ % A5ne [ wikipedia.org ] ( sorry , danish wikipedia ) oh , and 'Danishes ' are called 'Wienerbr   d ' ( Bread from Vienna ) in Denmark , so technically , Danes are eating Austrians when in Denmark , but Danes when in US .
Confused yet ?
And please support this guy , they 've been trying to ignore him into oblivion for half a year , but some of us Danes are hoping he 'll take it all the way .
Hopefully it 'll hit the EU parlament .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doesn't he know that cops EAT DANISHES?In Denmark, cops eats 'Citronmåner' a nasty half circular sandcake with citrus glazing.
http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citronhalvm\%C3\%A5ne [wikipedia.org] (sorry, danish wikipedia)
oh, and 'Danishes' are called 'Wienerbrød' (Bread from Vienna) in Denmark, so technically, Danes are eating Austrians when in Denmark, but Danes when in US.
Confused yet?
And please support this guy, they've been trying to ignore him into oblivion for half a year, but some of us Danes are hoping he'll take it all the way.
Hopefully it'll hit the EU parlament.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30303240</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301730</id>
	<title>That Dude is My Hero!</title>
	<author>MarkvW</author>
	<datestamp>1259573220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He's not a whining sniveling cowardly hypocrite like the Pirate Bay defendants.</p><p>This guy's putting it on the line.  Does he have a defense fund that can be contributed to?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He 's not a whining sniveling cowardly hypocrite like the Pirate Bay defendants.This guy 's putting it on the line .
Does he have a defense fund that can be contributed to ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He's not a whining sniveling cowardly hypocrite like the Pirate Bay defendants.This guy's putting it on the line.
Does he have a defense fund that can be contributed to?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301212</id>
	<title>law vs. law</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259614560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How does this work, does the older one win because he can beat up the younger law?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How does this work , does the older one win because he can beat up the younger law ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How does this work, does the older one win because he can beat up the younger law?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301310</id>
	<title>Re:Kudos</title>
	<author>Cocoronixx</author>
	<datestamp>1259571780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... modded wrong.. posting to remove post</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... modded wrong.. posting to remove post</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... modded wrong.. posting to remove post</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301204</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30309270</id>
	<title>Re:Kudos</title>
	<author>Carewolf</author>
	<datestamp>1259847720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Does anybody know the difference in damage award size in Denmark and the US?</p></div></blockquote><p>Damages in countries with civil law are usually not intended to punish. The reason the damages are so high in the US is because the damages are also penalties or fines for breaking the law. This is very specific to the US, I don't even think the UK shares the US problem with damages despite also using common law. But damages are not relevant here, since there is no damage done to the copyright holder.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anybody know the difference in damage award size in Denmark and the US ? Damages in countries with civil law are usually not intended to punish .
The reason the damages are so high in the US is because the damages are also penalties or fines for breaking the law .
This is very specific to the US , I do n't even think the UK shares the US problem with damages despite also using common law .
But damages are not relevant here , since there is no damage done to the copyright holder .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anybody know the difference in damage award size in Denmark and the US?Damages in countries with civil law are usually not intended to punish.
The reason the damages are so high in the US is because the damages are also penalties or fines for breaking the law.
This is very specific to the US, I don't even think the UK shares the US problem with damages despite also using common law.
But damages are not relevant here, since there is no damage done to the copyright holder.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301406</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30304432</id>
	<title>Re:Kudos</title>
	<author>CodeBuster</author>
	<datestamp>1259581860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>but here in the US when you see FBI warnings before a movie stating you'll be fined $150,000 and 10 years in a PMITA prison... I'd rather just keep my mouth shut and let someone who actually got caught challenge the system.</p></div><p>In the United States, where sentences are harsher, fines larger, and prisons are operated as for-profit growth industries, this is probably a wise decision on your part.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>but here in the US when you see FBI warnings before a movie stating you 'll be fined $ 150,000 and 10 years in a PMITA prison... I 'd rather just keep my mouth shut and let someone who actually got caught challenge the system.In the United States , where sentences are harsher , fines larger , and prisons are operated as for-profit growth industries , this is probably a wise decision on your part .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but here in the US when you see FBI warnings before a movie stating you'll be fined $150,000 and 10 years in a PMITA prison... I'd rather just keep my mouth shut and let someone who actually got caught challenge the system.In the United States, where sentences are harsher, fines larger, and prisons are operated as for-profit growth industries, this is probably a wise decision on your part.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301360</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30302902</id>
	<title>Re:Kudos</title>
	<author>spire3661</author>
	<datestamp>1259576880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Stop referring to prison as PMITA. It is extremely hypocritical.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Stop referring to prison as PMITA .
It is extremely hypocritical .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stop referring to prison as PMITA.
It is extremely hypocritical.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301360</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30303850</id>
	<title>Re:Won't Loving Work.</title>
	<author>asaz989</author>
	<datestamp>1259579760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In which case he will have made his point - that the law allowing non-commercial backups has been nullified by these DRM antics, and can't act as a sop for the record companies to say "hey, look, these laws are totally reasonable! They let you do some things!"</htmltext>
<tokenext>In which case he will have made his point - that the law allowing non-commercial backups has been nullified by these DRM antics , and ca n't act as a sop for the record companies to say " hey , look , these laws are totally reasonable !
They let you do some things !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In which case he will have made his point - that the law allowing non-commercial backups has been nullified by these DRM antics, and can't act as a sop for the record companies to say "hey, look, these laws are totally reasonable!
They let you do some things!
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301364</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30308274</id>
	<title>TFA gets his name wrong</title>
	<author>Buchenskjoll</author>
	<datestamp>1259873760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>His name is Henrik Andersen, not Anderson.

This is his website (in Danish): httt://www.enfrustreretforbruger.dk</htmltext>
<tokenext>His name is Henrik Andersen , not Anderson .
This is his website ( in Danish ) : httt : //www.enfrustreretforbruger.dk</tokentext>
<sentencetext>His name is Henrik Andersen, not Anderson.
This is his website (in Danish): httt://www.enfrustreretforbruger.dk</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30303226</id>
	<title>This could well backfire</title>
	<author>puddles</author>
	<datestamp>1259577780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He could have made the copies but retained the DRM.  Or, he could have made exact DVD copies with the DRM in place.  OK, so it's not possible to make exact copies of dual-layered DVD but that's a technological issue, not legal.</p><p>I don't understand how the two laws are contradictory.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He could have made the copies but retained the DRM .
Or , he could have made exact DVD copies with the DRM in place .
OK , so it 's not possible to make exact copies of dual-layered DVD but that 's a technological issue , not legal.I do n't understand how the two laws are contradictory .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He could have made the copies but retained the DRM.
Or, he could have made exact DVD copies with the DRM in place.
OK, so it's not possible to make exact copies of dual-layered DVD but that's a technological issue, not legal.I don't understand how the two laws are contradictory.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30302830</id>
	<title>Conflicting law precedent?</title>
	<author>relaxinparadise</author>
	<datestamp>1259576580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Are there any precedents anywhere for having conflicting laws and what happens in cases like this where it would seem that one of the two laws in question would have to be illegal itself? I would hope that he has his lawyer fees taken care of or is a lawyer himself, something like this sounds expensive.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are there any precedents anywhere for having conflicting laws and what happens in cases like this where it would seem that one of the two laws in question would have to be illegal itself ?
I would hope that he has his lawyer fees taken care of or is a lawyer himself , something like this sounds expensive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are there any precedents anywhere for having conflicting laws and what happens in cases like this where it would seem that one of the two laws in question would have to be illegal itself?
I would hope that he has his lawyer fees taken care of or is a lawyer himself, something like this sounds expensive.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30304244</id>
	<title>Re:Kudos</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259581080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>here in the US when you see FBI warnings before a movie stating you'll be fined $150,000 and 10 years in a PMITA prison... I'd rather just keep my mouth shut and let someone who actually got caught challenge the system.</p></div><p>I had the same exact problem before discovering that pirated movies don't have that warning, so I'm free to redistribute/resell/upload them!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>here in the US when you see FBI warnings before a movie stating you 'll be fined $ 150,000 and 10 years in a PMITA prison... I 'd rather just keep my mouth shut and let someone who actually got caught challenge the system.I had the same exact problem before discovering that pirated movies do n't have that warning , so I 'm free to redistribute/resell/upload them !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>here in the US when you see FBI warnings before a movie stating you'll be fined $150,000 and 10 years in a PMITA prison... I'd rather just keep my mouth shut and let someone who actually got caught challenge the system.I had the same exact problem before discovering that pirated movies don't have that warning, so I'm free to redistribute/resell/upload them!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301360</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30303532</id>
	<title>at the risk of beating  a quote into the ground</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259578740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>"In Denmark, it's legal to make copies of commercial videos for backup or other private purposes. It's also illegal to break the DRM that restricts copying of DVDs. Deciding to find out which law mattered, Henrik Anderson reported himself for 100 violations of the DRM-breaking law (he ripped his DVD collection to his computer) and demanded that the Danish anti-piracy Antipiratgruppen do something about it. They promised him a response, then didn't respond. So now he's reporting himself to the police. He wants a trial, so that the legality of the DRM-breaking law can be tested in court."</p></div></blockquote><p>Something is awesome in the state of Denmark. And it's Anderson.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" In Denmark , it 's legal to make copies of commercial videos for backup or other private purposes .
It 's also illegal to break the DRM that restricts copying of DVDs .
Deciding to find out which law mattered , Henrik Anderson reported himself for 100 violations of the DRM-breaking law ( he ripped his DVD collection to his computer ) and demanded that the Danish anti-piracy Antipiratgruppen do something about it .
They promised him a response , then did n't respond .
So now he 's reporting himself to the police .
He wants a trial , so that the legality of the DRM-breaking law can be tested in court .
" Something is awesome in the state of Denmark .
And it 's Anderson .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"In Denmark, it's legal to make copies of commercial videos for backup or other private purposes.
It's also illegal to break the DRM that restricts copying of DVDs.
Deciding to find out which law mattered, Henrik Anderson reported himself for 100 violations of the DRM-breaking law (he ripped his DVD collection to his computer) and demanded that the Danish anti-piracy Antipiratgruppen do something about it.
They promised him a response, then didn't respond.
So now he's reporting himself to the police.
He wants a trial, so that the legality of the DRM-breaking law can be tested in court.
"Something is awesome in the state of Denmark.
And it's Anderson.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301390</id>
	<title>Re:law vs. law</title>
	<author>Archangel Michael</author>
	<datestamp>1259572020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, it is probably more like<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.... Law vs Law, who ever wins, we lose!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , it is probably more like .... Law vs Law , who ever wins , we lose !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, it is probably more like .... Law vs Law, who ever wins, we lose!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301212</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30315734</id>
	<title>Andersen, not Anderson</title>
	<author>brucmack</author>
	<datestamp>1259833200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>His name is Henrik Andersen, not Henrik Anderson - both the summary and article are wrong. Anderson is the Swedish spelling and as such is not common in Denmark.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>His name is Henrik Andersen , not Henrik Anderson - both the summary and article are wrong .
Anderson is the Swedish spelling and as such is not common in Denmark .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>His name is Henrik Andersen, not Henrik Anderson - both the summary and article are wrong.
Anderson is the Swedish spelling and as such is not common in Denmark.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301380</id>
	<title>Re:Kudos</title>
	<author>throwaway85</author>
	<datestamp>1259571960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I agree wholeheartedly.  Hopefully he is not nailed to the proverbial cross for taking this brave action to directly challenge DRM.  If he wins, I wonder what implications this will have for filesharing in Denmark?  DRM may be struck down, but the degree to which that impacts piracy cases will be determined in large part by how central DRM is to anti-piracy prosecution.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree wholeheartedly .
Hopefully he is not nailed to the proverbial cross for taking this brave action to directly challenge DRM .
If he wins , I wonder what implications this will have for filesharing in Denmark ?
DRM may be struck down , but the degree to which that impacts piracy cases will be determined in large part by how central DRM is to anti-piracy prosecution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree wholeheartedly.
Hopefully he is not nailed to the proverbial cross for taking this brave action to directly challenge DRM.
If he wins, I wonder what implications this will have for filesharing in Denmark?
DRM may be struck down, but the degree to which that impacts piracy cases will be determined in large part by how central DRM is to anti-piracy prosecution.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301204</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30309102</id>
	<title>Re:at the risk of beating a quote into the ground</title>
	<author>Jedi Alec</author>
	<datestamp>1259845140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But Mr Anderson, how can you make a phonecall...when you can't speak?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But Mr Anderson , how can you make a phonecall...when you ca n't speak ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But Mr Anderson, how can you make a phonecall...when you can't speak?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30303532</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30303676</id>
	<title>These two laws are not contradictory</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259579220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A similar analogy is the US first amendment gives the right to free speech, but not the right to shout fire in a crowded theatre. Think of it as a Venn diagram. Law A (right to make personal copies) says it's legal to do something. Law B (don't circumvent DRM) says you can't copy something that's been encrypted. Therefore it's legal to make personal copies of anything that doesn't have DRM. So it's legal to copy VHS (unless it has macrovision) or OTA broadcast but not DVD. Why is that so hard to understand?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A similar analogy is the US first amendment gives the right to free speech , but not the right to shout fire in a crowded theatre .
Think of it as a Venn diagram .
Law A ( right to make personal copies ) says it 's legal to do something .
Law B ( do n't circumvent DRM ) says you ca n't copy something that 's been encrypted .
Therefore it 's legal to make personal copies of anything that does n't have DRM .
So it 's legal to copy VHS ( unless it has macrovision ) or OTA broadcast but not DVD .
Why is that so hard to understand ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A similar analogy is the US first amendment gives the right to free speech, but not the right to shout fire in a crowded theatre.
Think of it as a Venn diagram.
Law A (right to make personal copies) says it's legal to do something.
Law B (don't circumvent DRM) says you can't copy something that's been encrypted.
Therefore it's legal to make personal copies of anything that doesn't have DRM.
So it's legal to copy VHS (unless it has macrovision) or OTA broadcast but not DVD.
Why is that so hard to understand?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301406</id>
	<title>Re:Kudos</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259572020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>In the US we tend to face draconian damage awards if found guilty of even ridiculously small amount of infringement.  So, we may have to have somebody successfully challenge the size of the damages before challenging legality.  Does anybody know the difference in damage award size in Denmark and the US?</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the US we tend to face draconian damage awards if found guilty of even ridiculously small amount of infringement .
So , we may have to have somebody successfully challenge the size of the damages before challenging legality .
Does anybody know the difference in damage award size in Denmark and the US ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the US we tend to face draconian damage awards if found guilty of even ridiculously small amount of infringement.
So, we may have to have somebody successfully challenge the size of the damages before challenging legality.
Does anybody know the difference in damage award size in Denmark and the US?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30301204</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30307820</id>
	<title>Hm, a rather stupid idea</title>
	<author>angel'o'sphere</author>
	<datestamp>1259606820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i><br>He wants a trial, so that the legality of the DRM-breaking law can be tested in court.<br></i></p><p>The difference between US system of law and most european countries is: we have a predetermined law and not a "law by court ruling".</p><p>Of course the law in denmark is legal<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... technical speaking. A judge can not "overrule" the law, except it is unconstitutional and then usually a special jury decides that.</p><p>What a judge can / could do is to define if the law (that specific paragraph) is to be used in that particular case. At least that is in layman terms how law works in germany. As soon as a law is signed and active no judge can say: well I ignore it because bla bla bla<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... as it is active it is always valid.</p><p>angel'o'sphere</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He wants a trial , so that the legality of the DRM-breaking law can be tested in court.The difference between US system of law and most european countries is : we have a predetermined law and not a " law by court ruling " .Of course the law in denmark is legal ... technical speaking .
A judge can not " overrule " the law , except it is unconstitutional and then usually a special jury decides that.What a judge can / could do is to define if the law ( that specific paragraph ) is to be used in that particular case .
At least that is in layman terms how law works in germany .
As soon as a law is signed and active no judge can say : well I ignore it because bla bla bla ... as it is active it is always valid.angel'o'sphere</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He wants a trial, so that the legality of the DRM-breaking law can be tested in court.The difference between US system of law and most european countries is: we have a predetermined law and not a "law by court ruling".Of course the law in denmark is legal ... technical speaking.
A judge can not "overrule" the law, except it is unconstitutional and then usually a special jury decides that.What a judge can / could do is to define if the law (that specific paragraph) is to be used in that particular case.
At least that is in layman terms how law works in germany.
As soon as a law is signed and active no judge can say: well I ignore it because bla bla bla ... as it is active it is always valid.angel'o'sphere</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30309952</id>
	<title>Were I him...</title>
	<author>JerryLove</author>
	<datestamp>1259854680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would have turned myself in for 1 instance, not 100.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would have turned myself in for 1 instance , not 100 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would have turned myself in for 1 instance, not 100.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30305888</id>
	<title>Re:Medical but not food as a basic right is amusin</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259588280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who says food and shelter arent's seen as basic rights in Scandinavia? They are.<br>And sex? Sorry; that matter you'll have to take into your own hands.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who says food and shelter arent 's seen as basic rights in Scandinavia ?
They are.And sex ?
Sorry ; that matter you 'll have to take into your own hands .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who says food and shelter arent's seen as basic rights in Scandinavia?
They are.And sex?
Sorry; that matter you'll have to take into your own hands.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_1913213.30303710</parent>
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