<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_01_1752207</id>
	<title>Canadian Blood Services Promotes Pseudoscience</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1259668140000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>trianglecat writes <i>"The not-for-profit agency Canadian Blood Services has a <a href="http://www.bloodservices.ca/CentreApps/Internet/UW\_V502\_MainEngine.nsf/page/WYT\_E?OpenDocument">section of their website</a> based on the Japanese cultural belief of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood\_types\_in\_Japanese\_culture">ketsueki-gata</a>, which claims that a person's blood group determines or predicts their personality type. Disappointing for a self-proclaimed 'science-based' organization.  The Ottawa Skeptics, based in the nation's capital, appear to be <a href="http://www.ottawaskeptics.org/topics/alternative-medicine/268-canadian-blood-services-promotes-pseudoscience">taking some action</a>."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>trianglecat writes " The not-for-profit agency Canadian Blood Services has a section of their website based on the Japanese cultural belief of ketsueki-gata , which claims that a person 's blood group determines or predicts their personality type .
Disappointing for a self-proclaimed 'science-based ' organization .
The Ottawa Skeptics , based in the nation 's capital , appear to be taking some action .
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<sentencetext>trianglecat writes "The not-for-profit agency Canadian Blood Services has a section of their website based on the Japanese cultural belief of ketsueki-gata, which claims that a person's blood group determines or predicts their personality type.
Disappointing for a self-proclaimed 'science-based' organization.
The Ottawa Skeptics, based in the nation's capital, appear to be taking some action.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30296492</id>
	<title>Re:It breaks down as follows</title>
	<author>sorak</author>
	<datestamp>1259592000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Type O Negative: Not Okay?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Type O Negative : Not Okay ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Type O Negative: Not Okay?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291372</id>
	<title>Re:Street Fighter</title>
	<author>Colonel Korn</author>
	<datestamp>1259673240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I always wondered why they listed the blood type for the characters in Street Fighter. Now I know. Thanks Slashdot!</p></div><p>Nice.

But maybe that really is why it's listed in the game...</p></div>
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<tokenext>I always wondered why they listed the blood type for the characters in Street Fighter .
Now I know .
Thanks Slashdot ! Nice .
But maybe that really is why it 's listed in the game.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I always wondered why they listed the blood type for the characters in Street Fighter.
Now I know.
Thanks Slashdot!Nice.
But maybe that really is why it's listed in the game...
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30293092</id>
	<title>Re:Donor restrictions</title>
	<author>yorktown</author>
	<datestamp>1259685000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Despite a large amount of controversy CBS not only refuses to take donations by homosexual or bisexual men (despite the fact that every unit of blood that is donated is tested)</p></div><p>There is a <a href="http://www.sfaf.org/aids101/hiv\_testing.html#window" title="sfaf.org" rel="nofollow">window period</a> [sfaf.org] where a person will test negative to HIV yet still be infectious.  Thus testing alone is not enough to keep HIV tainted blood from the blood supply.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Despite a large amount of controversy CBS not only refuses to take donations by homosexual or bisexual men ( despite the fact that every unit of blood that is donated is tested ) There is a window period [ sfaf.org ] where a person will test negative to HIV yet still be infectious .
Thus testing alone is not enough to keep HIV tainted blood from the blood supply .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Despite a large amount of controversy CBS not only refuses to take donations by homosexual or bisexual men (despite the fact that every unit of blood that is donated is tested)There is a window period [sfaf.org] where a person will test negative to HIV yet still be infectious.
Thus testing alone is not enough to keep HIV tainted blood from the blood supply.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30292446</id>
	<title>Is handwriting analysis also bunk?</title>
	<author>Fantastic Lad</author>
	<datestamp>1259679720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know much about this blood type thing, but a cursory look suggests that the foundation holds some logic.</p><p>The blood types, like any difference owed to evolutionary forces, have roots which can be traced with relative ease across anthropological history.</p><p>For instance, type O's owe their genetic origins to hunter-gatherers; they thrive on foods available to such cultures, i.e., red meat and complex animal fats whereas they are not primed for efficient digestion and use of grains and similar plant materials.  I know this from direct experience; I lived in a vegetarian household and gave up meat for the years that I was there.  I turned into a pasty zombie and had head-aches all the time.  Whereas one of the other guys living in the same place somehow managed, on essentially the same diet, to maintain a robust and healthy body.  When I moved out and started eating meat again, literally within a couple of days, suddenly had color in my face again and felt strength flow back through me.  It was like I'd woken up.  Out of interest, we compared blood types, and sure enough, his was one of those which thrives on grains and plants and doesn't do well at all with meats.  I turned out to be a type-O, and so the opposite is true for me in terms of diet.  In any case, this isn't contested science.</p><p>Now how might this affect personality. . ?</p><p>Well, sheesh, I'm no anthropologist but I can certainly follow the logic wherein evolutionary genetics would favor those individuals who are successful on the hunt and filter out those characteristics which make for unsuccessful hunters of red meat.  Further, brain chemistry and hormone balances are a huge part of the whole human equation, much of which is controlled through genetics.  --And as brain chemistry and hormone balances make a huge impact upon behavior, I can easily see how generalized behavior patterns across populations might group with differing blood type on a Venn diagram.</p><p>I'm not saying that I know this for certain; I'd have to study it more closely to get a better idea, but the logic appears reasonable on the surface, and my own personality lines up with the claims.  So based on this, my reaction is not that of the post author who without any examples lays down accusations of pseudo-science and calls for "Something" to be done about it.  Sounds like a spooky bit of witch-hunting to me.</p><p>Now I can see how pop culture can take an idea like blood-type personality reading and spin it out of control into ridiculous places, but all in all, there is a lot more logic based on accepted science here than one can find with Astrology for instance, and yet the knee-jerk sceptics are reacting as though they've been stung.  --Now THAT reaction is something I find worthy of investigation.  What is it that the sceptics are so afraid of here that they are willing to act before thinking whilst supposedly championing the tenants of science?</p><p>There needs to be a word for "sceptics" of that nature.  Personally, I like the fact that the word can be spelled in two ways; with a "C" and with a "K".  --And that "Sceptic" when pronounced with a soft "c" refers to sewage.  But for some reason people look uncomfortable when I bring that up.  Probably in the same way those emu glance across the veldt at the lions.  (Sorry. Couldn't resist.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p><p>-FL</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know much about this blood type thing , but a cursory look suggests that the foundation holds some logic.The blood types , like any difference owed to evolutionary forces , have roots which can be traced with relative ease across anthropological history.For instance , type O 's owe their genetic origins to hunter-gatherers ; they thrive on foods available to such cultures , i.e. , red meat and complex animal fats whereas they are not primed for efficient digestion and use of grains and similar plant materials .
I know this from direct experience ; I lived in a vegetarian household and gave up meat for the years that I was there .
I turned into a pasty zombie and had head-aches all the time .
Whereas one of the other guys living in the same place somehow managed , on essentially the same diet , to maintain a robust and healthy body .
When I moved out and started eating meat again , literally within a couple of days , suddenly had color in my face again and felt strength flow back through me .
It was like I 'd woken up .
Out of interest , we compared blood types , and sure enough , his was one of those which thrives on grains and plants and does n't do well at all with meats .
I turned out to be a type-O , and so the opposite is true for me in terms of diet .
In any case , this is n't contested science.Now how might this affect personality .
. ? Well , sheesh , I 'm no anthropologist but I can certainly follow the logic wherein evolutionary genetics would favor those individuals who are successful on the hunt and filter out those characteristics which make for unsuccessful hunters of red meat .
Further , brain chemistry and hormone balances are a huge part of the whole human equation , much of which is controlled through genetics .
--And as brain chemistry and hormone balances make a huge impact upon behavior , I can easily see how generalized behavior patterns across populations might group with differing blood type on a Venn diagram.I 'm not saying that I know this for certain ; I 'd have to study it more closely to get a better idea , but the logic appears reasonable on the surface , and my own personality lines up with the claims .
So based on this , my reaction is not that of the post author who without any examples lays down accusations of pseudo-science and calls for " Something " to be done about it .
Sounds like a spooky bit of witch-hunting to me.Now I can see how pop culture can take an idea like blood-type personality reading and spin it out of control into ridiculous places , but all in all , there is a lot more logic based on accepted science here than one can find with Astrology for instance , and yet the knee-jerk sceptics are reacting as though they 've been stung .
--Now THAT reaction is something I find worthy of investigation .
What is it that the sceptics are so afraid of here that they are willing to act before thinking whilst supposedly championing the tenants of science ? There needs to be a word for " sceptics " of that nature .
Personally , I like the fact that the word can be spelled in two ways ; with a " C " and with a " K " .
--And that " Sceptic " when pronounced with a soft " c " refers to sewage .
But for some reason people look uncomfortable when I bring that up .
Probably in the same way those emu glance across the veldt at the lions .
( Sorry. Could n't resist .
; - ) -FL</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know much about this blood type thing, but a cursory look suggests that the foundation holds some logic.The blood types, like any difference owed to evolutionary forces, have roots which can be traced with relative ease across anthropological history.For instance, type O's owe their genetic origins to hunter-gatherers; they thrive on foods available to such cultures, i.e., red meat and complex animal fats whereas they are not primed for efficient digestion and use of grains and similar plant materials.
I know this from direct experience; I lived in a vegetarian household and gave up meat for the years that I was there.
I turned into a pasty zombie and had head-aches all the time.
Whereas one of the other guys living in the same place somehow managed, on essentially the same diet, to maintain a robust and healthy body.
When I moved out and started eating meat again, literally within a couple of days, suddenly had color in my face again and felt strength flow back through me.
It was like I'd woken up.
Out of interest, we compared blood types, and sure enough, his was one of those which thrives on grains and plants and doesn't do well at all with meats.
I turned out to be a type-O, and so the opposite is true for me in terms of diet.
In any case, this isn't contested science.Now how might this affect personality.
. ?Well, sheesh, I'm no anthropologist but I can certainly follow the logic wherein evolutionary genetics would favor those individuals who are successful on the hunt and filter out those characteristics which make for unsuccessful hunters of red meat.
Further, brain chemistry and hormone balances are a huge part of the whole human equation, much of which is controlled through genetics.
--And as brain chemistry and hormone balances make a huge impact upon behavior, I can easily see how generalized behavior patterns across populations might group with differing blood type on a Venn diagram.I'm not saying that I know this for certain; I'd have to study it more closely to get a better idea, but the logic appears reasonable on the surface, and my own personality lines up with the claims.
So based on this, my reaction is not that of the post author who without any examples lays down accusations of pseudo-science and calls for "Something" to be done about it.
Sounds like a spooky bit of witch-hunting to me.Now I can see how pop culture can take an idea like blood-type personality reading and spin it out of control into ridiculous places, but all in all, there is a lot more logic based on accepted science here than one can find with Astrology for instance, and yet the knee-jerk sceptics are reacting as though they've been stung.
--Now THAT reaction is something I find worthy of investigation.
What is it that the sceptics are so afraid of here that they are willing to act before thinking whilst supposedly championing the tenants of science?There needs to be a word for "sceptics" of that nature.
Personally, I like the fact that the word can be spelled in two ways; with a "C" and with a "K".
--And that "Sceptic" when pronounced with a soft "c" refers to sewage.
But for some reason people look uncomfortable when I bring that up.
Probably in the same way those emu glance across the veldt at the lions.
(Sorry. Couldn't resist.
;-)-FL</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30297066</id>
	<title>Re:America has a governmental version!</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1259595720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On the contrary, by all means we should test things. That's how we distinguish between traditional methods that actually work (e.g., willow bark), from claptrap.</p><p>The problem is that homeopathy <i>has</i> been tested, and found not to work. Repeatedly. In that sense, it is a waste of money to continue doing so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On the contrary , by all means we should test things .
That 's how we distinguish between traditional methods that actually work ( e.g. , willow bark ) , from claptrap.The problem is that homeopathy has been tested , and found not to work .
Repeatedly. In that sense , it is a waste of money to continue doing so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the contrary, by all means we should test things.
That's how we distinguish between traditional methods that actually work (e.g., willow bark), from claptrap.The problem is that homeopathy has been tested, and found not to work.
Repeatedly. In that sense, it is a waste of money to continue doing so.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30293690</id>
	<title>Re:Not surprising.</title>
	<author>Gramie2</author>
	<datestamp>1259690580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From what <i>I've</i> seen (lived there for 7 years and married one of them), Japanese do indeed believe this blood type stuff. I was giving blood last month and saw a pamphlet that had the text you quoted. I just assumed that it was a goofy "would you believe..." kind of thing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From what I 've seen ( lived there for 7 years and married one of them ) , Japanese do indeed believe this blood type stuff .
I was giving blood last month and saw a pamphlet that had the text you quoted .
I just assumed that it was a goofy " would you believe... " kind of thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From what I've seen (lived there for 7 years and married one of them), Japanese do indeed believe this blood type stuff.
I was giving blood last month and saw a pamphlet that had the text you quoted.
I just assumed that it was a goofy "would you believe..." kind of thing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291950</id>
	<title>Disclaimer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259676540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Right on the page: <i>"The What's Your Type? program is a <b>recruitment program</b> with information provided for the <b>participants' enjoyment</b>. You should seek medical supervision for all matters regarding your health."</i> <br> <br>Give them a break. This is no different than someone telling you how your day is going to play out based on the time of the year you were born. If people want to eat differently or act differently based on the fact that they fall into one of a few large groups, they can go right ahead.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Right on the page : " The What 's Your Type ?
program is a recruitment program with information provided for the participants ' enjoyment .
You should seek medical supervision for all matters regarding your health .
" Give them a break .
This is no different than someone telling you how your day is going to play out based on the time of the year you were born .
If people want to eat differently or act differently based on the fact that they fall into one of a few large groups , they can go right ahead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right on the page: "The What's Your Type?
program is a recruitment program with information provided for the participants' enjoyment.
You should seek medical supervision for all matters regarding your health.
"  Give them a break.
This is no different than someone telling you how your day is going to play out based on the time of the year you were born.
If people want to eat differently or act differently based on the fact that they fall into one of a few large groups, they can go right ahead.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30293102</id>
	<title>Re:Is handwriting analysis also bunk?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259685060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To start off, an expression which anyone that thinks about science should constantly keep in mind: "Data is not the plural form of anecdote". You created some sort of correlation between blood types and human physiological differences based on a single case! I personally am a type O and am perfectly able to live on a vegetarian diet (though I stick to being an omnivore because meat tastes so damn great).</p><p>Now, to address the absurdity of your argument under the light of actual biology. You claim that people of O blood type "owe their genetic origins to hunter-gatherers", as if all their other genes also came from hunter-gatherer ancestors. This is an overly simplistic view of genetics that is not sustained by any biological theory accepted by scientists. The presence of a shared allele only means that somewhere in the genealogy, those two individuals shared a common ancestor that carried that exact allele. However, all the other genes in the genome of the two individuals could be completely different, so a single shared allele tells nothing about the relative contribution of different genetic backgrounds to the two genomes. A basic rule in evolution of diploid sexual organisms is that genes are units that pass down from generation to generation, not whole individuals or genomes. Therefore, it is entirely possible to encounter two people with the same blood type and radically different physiological phenotypes, since different genes are responsible different aspects of a persons physiology (e.g., one type-O person is lactose-tolerant and the other is intolerant).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To start off , an expression which anyone that thinks about science should constantly keep in mind : " Data is not the plural form of anecdote " .
You created some sort of correlation between blood types and human physiological differences based on a single case !
I personally am a type O and am perfectly able to live on a vegetarian diet ( though I stick to being an omnivore because meat tastes so damn great ) .Now , to address the absurdity of your argument under the light of actual biology .
You claim that people of O blood type " owe their genetic origins to hunter-gatherers " , as if all their other genes also came from hunter-gatherer ancestors .
This is an overly simplistic view of genetics that is not sustained by any biological theory accepted by scientists .
The presence of a shared allele only means that somewhere in the genealogy , those two individuals shared a common ancestor that carried that exact allele .
However , all the other genes in the genome of the two individuals could be completely different , so a single shared allele tells nothing about the relative contribution of different genetic backgrounds to the two genomes .
A basic rule in evolution of diploid sexual organisms is that genes are units that pass down from generation to generation , not whole individuals or genomes .
Therefore , it is entirely possible to encounter two people with the same blood type and radically different physiological phenotypes , since different genes are responsible different aspects of a persons physiology ( e.g. , one type-O person is lactose-tolerant and the other is intolerant ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To start off, an expression which anyone that thinks about science should constantly keep in mind: "Data is not the plural form of anecdote".
You created some sort of correlation between blood types and human physiological differences based on a single case!
I personally am a type O and am perfectly able to live on a vegetarian diet (though I stick to being an omnivore because meat tastes so damn great).Now, to address the absurdity of your argument under the light of actual biology.
You claim that people of O blood type "owe their genetic origins to hunter-gatherers", as if all their other genes also came from hunter-gatherer ancestors.
This is an overly simplistic view of genetics that is not sustained by any biological theory accepted by scientists.
The presence of a shared allele only means that somewhere in the genealogy, those two individuals shared a common ancestor that carried that exact allele.
However, all the other genes in the genome of the two individuals could be completely different, so a single shared allele tells nothing about the relative contribution of different genetic backgrounds to the two genomes.
A basic rule in evolution of diploid sexual organisms is that genes are units that pass down from generation to generation, not whole individuals or genomes.
Therefore, it is entirely possible to encounter two people with the same blood type and radically different physiological phenotypes, since different genes are responsible different aspects of a persons physiology (e.g., one type-O person is lactose-tolerant and the other is intolerant).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30296638</id>
	<title>Re:quick silence these heretics!!!</title>
	<author>TheVelvetFlamebait</author>
	<datestamp>1259592900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because they are <b>wrong</b>, and their spouting of bullshit is <b>unacceptable!</b> <br>
&nbsp; <br>...<br>
&nbsp; <br>Hmm. Let's see what's on TV. Oh, eating nutragrain turns me into an iron man? Awesome! I gotta get me some of that!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because they are wrong , and their spouting of bullshit is unacceptable !
  .. .   Hmm .
Let 's see what 's on TV .
Oh , eating nutragrain turns me into an iron man ?
Awesome ! I got ta get me some of that !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because they are wrong, and their spouting of bullshit is unacceptable!
  ...
  Hmm.
Let's see what's on TV.
Oh, eating nutragrain turns me into an iron man?
Awesome! I gotta get me some of that!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291322</id>
	<title>Street Fighter</title>
	<author>Demize</author>
	<datestamp>1259673000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I always wondered why they listed the blood type for the characters in Street Fighter. Now I know. Thanks Slashdot!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I always wondered why they listed the blood type for the characters in Street Fighter .
Now I know .
Thanks Slashdot !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I always wondered why they listed the blood type for the characters in Street Fighter.
Now I know.
Thanks Slashdot!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291876</id>
	<title>Re:It breaks down as follows</title>
	<author>rattaroaz</author>
	<datestamp>1259676000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>F*** off!  I'm a Bastard plus.</htmltext>
<tokenext>F * * * off !
I 'm a Bastard plus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>F*** off!
I'm a Bastard plus.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30292280</id>
	<title>Re:It breaks down as follows</title>
	<author>heretic108</author>
	<datestamp>1259678520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or for the online community:</p><p>A - anal<br>B - bestial<br>AB - you guessed it!<br>O - oral</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or for the online community : A - analB - bestialAB - you guessed it ! O - oral</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or for the online community:A - analB - bestialAB - you guessed it!O - oral</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30294468</id>
	<title>stupid :P</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259611560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>but I would totally turn type B into type AB if you know what I mean!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>but I would totally turn type B into type AB if you know what I mean !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but I would totally turn type B into type AB if you know what I mean!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30297636</id>
	<title>"provided for the participants' enjoyment"</title>
	<author>Jabrwock</author>
	<datestamp>1259598360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The fine print:<p><div class="quote"><p>The What's Your Type? program is a recruitment program with information provided for the participants' enjoyment. You should seek medical supervision for all matters regarding your health.</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The fine print : The What 's Your Type ?
program is a recruitment program with information provided for the participants ' enjoyment .
You should seek medical supervision for all matters regarding your health .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The fine print:The What's Your Type?
program is a recruitment program with information provided for the participants' enjoyment.
You should seek medical supervision for all matters regarding your health.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30298474</id>
	<title>Re:Not surprising.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259602320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm actually dumber now for having read the article at Ottawa Skeptics.  Ironically enough if you go to NASA's website and do a search for "astrology" you can find bunch of interesting reads.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm actually dumber now for having read the article at Ottawa Skeptics .
Ironically enough if you go to NASA 's website and do a search for " astrology " you can find bunch of interesting reads .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm actually dumber now for having read the article at Ottawa Skeptics.
Ironically enough if you go to NASA's website and do a search for "astrology" you can find bunch of interesting reads.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291096</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30292796</id>
	<title>Re:Nonsense peddlers often sneak in...</title>
	<author>Rary</author>
	<datestamp>1259682360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Honestly, I don't see what the big deal is. It clearly states that "The What's Your Type? program is a recruitment program with information provided <b>for the participants' enjoyment</b>" (emphasis added). It's just a silly recruitment program, and it blatantly says so. They're not claiming that there is any science behind it. This is not the science-oriented people in CBS backing this, it's the PR-oriented people.</p><p>There is no conspiracy here to to drive a wedge of Japanese pseudoscience into an otherwise scientific organization. This is a bit of silliness to get people interested in donating blood.</p><p>Seriously people. Relax. Loosen your tinfoil hats. "They" are not conspiring to take your precious science away.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Honestly , I do n't see what the big deal is .
It clearly states that " The What 's Your Type ?
program is a recruitment program with information provided for the participants ' enjoyment " ( emphasis added ) .
It 's just a silly recruitment program , and it blatantly says so .
They 're not claiming that there is any science behind it .
This is not the science-oriented people in CBS backing this , it 's the PR-oriented people.There is no conspiracy here to to drive a wedge of Japanese pseudoscience into an otherwise scientific organization .
This is a bit of silliness to get people interested in donating blood.Seriously people .
Relax. Loosen your tinfoil hats .
" They " are not conspiring to take your precious science away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Honestly, I don't see what the big deal is.
It clearly states that "The What's Your Type?
program is a recruitment program with information provided for the participants' enjoyment" (emphasis added).
It's just a silly recruitment program, and it blatantly says so.
They're not claiming that there is any science behind it.
This is not the science-oriented people in CBS backing this, it's the PR-oriented people.There is no conspiracy here to to drive a wedge of Japanese pseudoscience into an otherwise scientific organization.
This is a bit of silliness to get people interested in donating blood.Seriously people.
Relax. Loosen your tinfoil hats.
"They" are not conspiring to take your precious science away.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291122</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30297738</id>
	<title>Re:Barking up the wrong tree</title>
	<author>rainmaestro</author>
	<datestamp>1259598840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If only I had mod points.</p><p>The people complaining about this are the same people who would bitch about the lack of scientific rigor in "What kind of geek are you?" quizzes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If only I had mod points.The people complaining about this are the same people who would bitch about the lack of scientific rigor in " What kind of geek are you ?
" quizzes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If only I had mod points.The people complaining about this are the same people who would bitch about the lack of scientific rigor in "What kind of geek are you?
" quizzes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291442</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291096</id>
	<title>Not surprising.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259671980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you lived in Ottawa, like I do, you'd understand that we're nearly the most absurdly "politically correct" place on earth.  This is reflected by a common effort to be "inclusive" to other schools of thought.

Also, there are more complainers and "letter writers" in Ottawa than any other city on Earth.  I'm sure, so none of this seems out of the ordinary to me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you lived in Ottawa , like I do , you 'd understand that we 're nearly the most absurdly " politically correct " place on earth .
This is reflected by a common effort to be " inclusive " to other schools of thought .
Also , there are more complainers and " letter writers " in Ottawa than any other city on Earth .
I 'm sure , so none of this seems out of the ordinary to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you lived in Ottawa, like I do, you'd understand that we're nearly the most absurdly "politically correct" place on earth.
This is reflected by a common effort to be "inclusive" to other schools of thought.
Also, there are more complainers and "letter writers" in Ottawa than any other city on Earth.
I'm sure, so none of this seems out of the ordinary to me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30295256</id>
	<title>Re:Japanese Science and Pseudo</title>
	<author>caffeine\_high</author>
	<datestamp>1259579040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I had a quick look at the PubMed search and did not see any results that seemed to support the blood group personality thing.

If I search PubMad for "star signs" I get almost twice as many results.

Can you post the links to any of these articles that show any evidence to support a relationship between blood group and personality?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I had a quick look at the PubMed search and did not see any results that seemed to support the blood group personality thing .
If I search PubMad for " star signs " I get almost twice as many results .
Can you post the links to any of these articles that show any evidence to support a relationship between blood group and personality ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had a quick look at the PubMed search and did not see any results that seemed to support the blood group personality thing.
If I search PubMad for "star signs" I get almost twice as many results.
Can you post the links to any of these articles that show any evidence to support a relationship between blood group and personality?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30292150</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30292762</id>
	<title>Re:Odd name for the group</title>
	<author>Mashiki</author>
	<datestamp>1259682120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>If they're based in Toronto, why are they called the Ottawa Skeptics?</p></div> </blockquote><p>Everyone knows that Toronto thinks they're the center of the universe.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If they 're based in Toronto , why are they called the Ottawa Skeptics ?
Everyone knows that Toronto thinks they 're the center of the universe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they're based in Toronto, why are they called the Ottawa Skeptics?
Everyone knows that Toronto thinks they're the center of the universe.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291258</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30292972</id>
	<title>Re:Is handwriting analysis also bunk?</title>
	<author>Dexter Herbivore</author>
	<datestamp>1259683800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>An emu glancing at lions???

Only in some sort of weird wildlife park, last time I checked we didn't have any lions roaming around Australia... a dingo maybe, but the emu is just worried that it's going to take his baby<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>An emu glancing at lions ? ? ?
Only in some sort of weird wildlife park , last time I checked we did n't have any lions roaming around Australia... a dingo maybe , but the emu is just worried that it 's going to take his baby : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An emu glancing at lions???
Only in some sort of weird wildlife park, last time I checked we didn't have any lions roaming around Australia... a dingo maybe, but the emu is just worried that it's going to take his baby :)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30292446</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30292108</id>
	<title>Re:Politically correct?</title>
	<author>The Archon V2.0</author>
	<datestamp>1259677560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It's still stupid, and as a Canadian I'm just glad that I live in Quebec and <a href="http://www.hema-quebec.qc.ca/francais/index.htm" title="hema-quebec.qc.ca">we run our program separately</a> [hema-quebec.qc.ca]. <a href="http://www.hema-quebec.qc.ca/anglais/index.htm" title="hema-quebec.qc.ca">english version</a> [hema-quebec.qc.ca].<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... though someone should tell them the blink tag is dead!
</p></div><p>Nonsense. I lo</p><p>ve having to sto</p><p>p reading every h</p><p>alf second while the</p><p> text is blinked ou</p><p>t.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's still stupid , and as a Canadian I 'm just glad that I live in Quebec and we run our program separately [ hema-quebec.qc.ca ] .
english version [ hema-quebec.qc.ca ] .
... though someone should tell them the blink tag is dead !
Nonsense. I love having to stop reading every half second while the text is blinked out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's still stupid, and as a Canadian I'm just glad that I live in Quebec and we run our program separately [hema-quebec.qc.ca].
english version [hema-quebec.qc.ca].
... though someone should tell them the blink tag is dead!
Nonsense. I love having to stop reading every half second while the text is blinked out.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291456</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291320</id>
	<title>America has a governmental version!</title>
	<author>panthroman</author>
	<datestamp>1259673000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <a href="http://nccam.nih.gov/" title="nih.gov">NCCAM</a> [nih.gov] started as a promise to put "complimentary and alternative medicine" (CAM) to scientific scrutiny, with <a href="http://www.csicop.org/si/show/ongoing\_problem\_with\_the\_national\_center" title="csicop.org">politically predictable results</a> [csicop.org].</p><p>As much as I love science (and how!), I'm ambivalent about even the idea of NCCAM.  Testing herbal remedies... I don't know, maybe we'll find something great.  But testing things like homeopathy, which even NCCAM admits "a number of its key concepts are not consistent with the current understanding of science, particularly chemistry and physics," is just a waste of resources.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>NCCAM [ nih.gov ] started as a promise to put " complimentary and alternative medicine " ( CAM ) to scientific scrutiny , with politically predictable results [ csicop.org ] .As much as I love science ( and how !
) , I 'm ambivalent about even the idea of NCCAM .
Testing herbal remedies... I do n't know , maybe we 'll find something great .
But testing things like homeopathy , which even NCCAM admits " a number of its key concepts are not consistent with the current understanding of science , particularly chemistry and physics , " is just a waste of resources .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> NCCAM [nih.gov] started as a promise to put "complimentary and alternative medicine" (CAM) to scientific scrutiny, with politically predictable results [csicop.org].As much as I love science (and how!
), I'm ambivalent about even the idea of NCCAM.
Testing herbal remedies... I don't know, maybe we'll find something great.
But testing things like homeopathy, which even NCCAM admits "a number of its key concepts are not consistent with the current understanding of science, particularly chemistry and physics," is just a waste of resources.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30297180</id>
	<title>Re:quick silence these heretics!!!</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1259596200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Silenced? Can you point me to where people are calling for this to be criminalised?</p><p>Just as the CBS has the right to talk rubbish, people have the right to point out that it's rubbish.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Silenced ?
Can you point me to where people are calling for this to be criminalised ? Just as the CBS has the right to talk rubbish , people have the right to point out that it 's rubbish .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Silenced?
Can you point me to where people are calling for this to be criminalised?Just as the CBS has the right to talk rubbish, people have the right to point out that it's rubbish.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291870</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30292574</id>
	<title>Re:It breaks down as follows</title>
	<author>TheLink</author>
	<datestamp>1259680620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I suspect my uncle's blood type is XO positive.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I suspect my uncle 's blood type is XO positive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suspect my uncle's blood type is XO positive.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291256</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30297380</id>
	<title>Don't get all excited...</title>
	<author>DarthVain</author>
	<datestamp>1259597040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Its just a ploy for a blood drive.</p><p>If you give blood, they will tell you your blood type, then you can look on the silly chart and see your "personality type"...</p><p>Just supposed to be a fun way to get people involved and giving blood.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its just a ploy for a blood drive.If you give blood , they will tell you your blood type , then you can look on the silly chart and see your " personality type " ...Just supposed to be a fun way to get people involved and giving blood .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its just a ploy for a blood drive.If you give blood, they will tell you your blood type, then you can look on the silly chart and see your "personality type"...Just supposed to be a fun way to get people involved and giving blood.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30294434</id>
	<title>Re:Nonsense peddlers often sneak in...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259611320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tell me about that. Several years ago when visiting grandparents I had some nausea and stomach problems for couple of days. I decided to visit a local GP and  in his waiting room he's got  some posters about  Chinese alternative medicine and all that crap. I have run away as fast as I could, got another shot of whiskey instead (an no, it was not any homeopathic solution) and in couple of hours all the problems were gone. I guess the alternative medicine sometimes work...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tell me about that .
Several years ago when visiting grandparents I had some nausea and stomach problems for couple of days .
I decided to visit a local GP and in his waiting room he 's got some posters about Chinese alternative medicine and all that crap .
I have run away as fast as I could , got another shot of whiskey instead ( an no , it was not any homeopathic solution ) and in couple of hours all the problems were gone .
I guess the alternative medicine sometimes work.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tell me about that.
Several years ago when visiting grandparents I had some nausea and stomach problems for couple of days.
I decided to visit a local GP and  in his waiting room he's got  some posters about  Chinese alternative medicine and all that crap.
I have run away as fast as I could, got another shot of whiskey instead (an no, it was not any homeopathic solution) and in couple of hours all the problems were gone.
I guess the alternative medicine sometimes work...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291122</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291922</id>
	<title>Re:America has a governmental version!</title>
	<author>phantomcircuit</author>
	<datestamp>1259676300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There funding was cancelled this year and is unlikely to ever be renewed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There funding was cancelled this year and is unlikely to ever be renewed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There funding was cancelled this year and is unlikely to ever be renewed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291320</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30292022</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259677020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't think your comment should have been modded down as flamebait; it is a reasonable question. However, it has a simple answer: Like most pseudosciences, this has directly harmful results. In some countries where this belief is common (especially Japan) people will not go on dates with people if they have the wrong bloodtype. Or people will not hire someone with the wrong bloodtype for a job. Thus, economic productivity and general happiness are being directly impacted. Additionally, this is unfair to the people who have personalities that are generally considered to be bad under the system. In that regard, this isn't substantially different than standard racist beliefs (fill in some comparison to Jews, blacks, or some other group here).</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think your comment should have been modded down as flamebait ; it is a reasonable question .
However , it has a simple answer : Like most pseudosciences , this has directly harmful results .
In some countries where this belief is common ( especially Japan ) people will not go on dates with people if they have the wrong bloodtype .
Or people will not hire someone with the wrong bloodtype for a job .
Thus , economic productivity and general happiness are being directly impacted .
Additionally , this is unfair to the people who have personalities that are generally considered to be bad under the system .
In that regard , this is n't substantially different than standard racist beliefs ( fill in some comparison to Jews , blacks , or some other group here ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think your comment should have been modded down as flamebait; it is a reasonable question.
However, it has a simple answer: Like most pseudosciences, this has directly harmful results.
In some countries where this belief is common (especially Japan) people will not go on dates with people if they have the wrong bloodtype.
Or people will not hire someone with the wrong bloodtype for a job.
Thus, economic productivity and general happiness are being directly impacted.
Additionally, this is unfair to the people who have personalities that are generally considered to be bad under the system.
In that regard, this isn't substantially different than standard racist beliefs (fill in some comparison to Jews, blacks, or some other group here).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291268</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291122</id>
	<title>Nonsense peddlers often sneak in...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259672100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>The thin edge of the wedge with this sort of thing is its popularity with the public at large. I'm sure the logic at CBS HQ was (unless the staff are themselves woo peddlers) "Well, yeah, it's pop-nonsense; but if it will draw attention, we'll get more blood donors, and we really need all of those we can get." That can be a compelling argument, and the compromise can seem so harmless at the time.<br> <br>

You also see this sort of thing happen when otherwise respectable medical schools will get endowed institutes in nonsenseology because some big donor has $200 million; but also believes that squirting coffee up his ass cures cancer.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The thin edge of the wedge with this sort of thing is its popularity with the public at large .
I 'm sure the logic at CBS HQ was ( unless the staff are themselves woo peddlers ) " Well , yeah , it 's pop-nonsense ; but if it will draw attention , we 'll get more blood donors , and we really need all of those we can get .
" That can be a compelling argument , and the compromise can seem so harmless at the time .
You also see this sort of thing happen when otherwise respectable medical schools will get endowed institutes in nonsenseology because some big donor has $ 200 million ; but also believes that squirting coffee up his ass cures cancer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The thin edge of the wedge with this sort of thing is its popularity with the public at large.
I'm sure the logic at CBS HQ was (unless the staff are themselves woo peddlers) "Well, yeah, it's pop-nonsense; but if it will draw attention, we'll get more blood donors, and we really need all of those we can get.
" That can be a compelling argument, and the compromise can seem so harmless at the time.
You also see this sort of thing happen when otherwise respectable medical schools will get endowed institutes in nonsenseology because some big donor has $200 million; but also believes that squirting coffee up his ass cures cancer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291258</id>
	<title>Odd name for the group</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259672640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>The Ottawa Skeptics, based in the Nation's capital</i>
<br> <br>
If they're based in Toronto, why are they called the Ottawa Skeptics?
<br> <br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>/Go Boomer!</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Ottawa Skeptics , based in the Nation 's capital If they 're based in Toronto , why are they called the Ottawa Skeptics ?
/Go Boomer !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Ottawa Skeptics, based in the Nation's capital
 
If they're based in Toronto, why are they called the Ottawa Skeptics?
/Go Boomer!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291840</id>
	<title>Re:Odd name for the group</title>
	<author>Joe Snipe</author>
	<datestamp>1259675760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's the membership application test.  A card will be mailed to you shortly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's the membership application test .
A card will be mailed to you shortly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's the membership application test.
A card will be mailed to you shortly.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291258</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30292522</id>
	<title>Re:Nonsense peddlers often sneak in...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259680200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The thin edge of the wedge with this sort of thing is its popularity with the public at large. I'm sure the logic at CRU was (unless the staff are themselves woo peddlers) "Well, yeah, it's pop-nonsense; but if it will draw attention, we'll get more supporters and money, and we really need all of those we can get." That can be a compelling argument, and the compromise can seem so harmless at the time.</p><p>You also see this sort of thing happen when otherwise respectable universities will get endowed institutes in nonsenseology because some big donor has $200 million; but also believes that cow farts cause global warming.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The thin edge of the wedge with this sort of thing is its popularity with the public at large .
I 'm sure the logic at CRU was ( unless the staff are themselves woo peddlers ) " Well , yeah , it 's pop-nonsense ; but if it will draw attention , we 'll get more supporters and money , and we really need all of those we can get .
" That can be a compelling argument , and the compromise can seem so harmless at the time.You also see this sort of thing happen when otherwise respectable universities will get endowed institutes in nonsenseology because some big donor has $ 200 million ; but also believes that cow farts cause global warming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The thin edge of the wedge with this sort of thing is its popularity with the public at large.
I'm sure the logic at CRU was (unless the staff are themselves woo peddlers) "Well, yeah, it's pop-nonsense; but if it will draw attention, we'll get more supporters and money, and we really need all of those we can get.
" That can be a compelling argument, and the compromise can seem so harmless at the time.You also see this sort of thing happen when otherwise respectable universities will get endowed institutes in nonsenseology because some big donor has $200 million; but also believes that cow farts cause global warming.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30292620</id>
	<title>Re:Is handwriting analysis also bunk?</title>
	<author>smoker2</author>
	<datestamp>1259680920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>And that "Sceptic" when pronounced with a soft "c" refers to sewage. But for some reason people look uncomfortable when I bring that up.</p></div></blockquote><p>People look uncomfortable because *you're* full of shit. Sceptic means exactly the same as skeptic. Septic is the spelling that refers to a tank for holding sewage.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And that " Sceptic " when pronounced with a soft " c " refers to sewage .
But for some reason people look uncomfortable when I bring that up.People look uncomfortable because * you 're * full of shit .
Sceptic means exactly the same as skeptic .
Septic is the spelling that refers to a tank for holding sewage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And that "Sceptic" when pronounced with a soft "c" refers to sewage.
But for some reason people look uncomfortable when I bring that up.People look uncomfortable because *you're* full of shit.
Sceptic means exactly the same as skeptic.
Septic is the spelling that refers to a tank for holding sewage.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291436</id>
	<title>Why is this news?</title>
	<author>Vyse of Arcadia</author>
	<datestamp>1259673600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>This seems like a fairly harmless "just for fun" type thing. This is like ripping on someone for reading a fortune cookie.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This seems like a fairly harmless " just for fun " type thing .
This is like ripping on someone for reading a fortune cookie .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This seems like a fairly harmless "just for fun" type thing.
This is like ripping on someone for reading a fortune cookie.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30294028</id>
	<title>Let us appreciate them.</title>
	<author>mahadiga</author>
	<datestamp>1259693400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They are advising <i>appropriate diet</i> based on our blood group.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They are advising appropriate diet based on our blood group .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They are advising appropriate diet based on our blood group.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291412</id>
	<title>Re:There are more important issues to complain abo</title>
	<author>Grishnakh</author>
	<datestamp>1259673420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Gays and anyone who visits Africa cannot give blood. This is far more serious.</i></p><p>What's wrong with that, at least the Africa bit?  In fact, I believe it's if you've visited any place prone to malaria within 12 months, not just Africa.  Obviously, they're trying to keep malaria and HIV out of the bloodstream, so they're eliminating anyone who's in a high-risk group for having contact with those pathogens.  Why is that a problem?  Testing all blood is also important, but tests can fail sometimes, and eliminating high-risk people is a good insurance policy.</p><p>Hopefully, this will all be moot soon when artificial blood is commonly available.  As a person with O negative blood, I think that time can't come soon enough.  (Even though I'm the universal donor, I can only receive O negative blood.  Since O- is commonly used every time they're not sure about a recipient's blood type, and also because O- is fairly rare (~5\% of the population), this means that there's a perpetual shortage of O-, which is bad if it's all you can have.  Until artificial blood is available, or they at least come up with some way of stripping off the extra proteins and turning other blood types into O-, I hope I never need an emergency transfusion.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Gays and anyone who visits Africa can not give blood .
This is far more serious.What 's wrong with that , at least the Africa bit ?
In fact , I believe it 's if you 've visited any place prone to malaria within 12 months , not just Africa .
Obviously , they 're trying to keep malaria and HIV out of the bloodstream , so they 're eliminating anyone who 's in a high-risk group for having contact with those pathogens .
Why is that a problem ?
Testing all blood is also important , but tests can fail sometimes , and eliminating high-risk people is a good insurance policy.Hopefully , this will all be moot soon when artificial blood is commonly available .
As a person with O negative blood , I think that time ca n't come soon enough .
( Even though I 'm the universal donor , I can only receive O negative blood .
Since O- is commonly used every time they 're not sure about a recipient 's blood type , and also because O- is fairly rare ( ~ 5 \ % of the population ) , this means that there 's a perpetual shortage of O- , which is bad if it 's all you can have .
Until artificial blood is available , or they at least come up with some way of stripping off the extra proteins and turning other blood types into O- , I hope I never need an emergency transfusion .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gays and anyone who visits Africa cannot give blood.
This is far more serious.What's wrong with that, at least the Africa bit?
In fact, I believe it's if you've visited any place prone to malaria within 12 months, not just Africa.
Obviously, they're trying to keep malaria and HIV out of the bloodstream, so they're eliminating anyone who's in a high-risk group for having contact with those pathogens.
Why is that a problem?
Testing all blood is also important, but tests can fail sometimes, and eliminating high-risk people is a good insurance policy.Hopefully, this will all be moot soon when artificial blood is commonly available.
As a person with O negative blood, I think that time can't come soon enough.
(Even though I'm the universal donor, I can only receive O negative blood.
Since O- is commonly used every time they're not sure about a recipient's blood type, and also because O- is fairly rare (~5\% of the population), this means that there's a perpetual shortage of O-, which is bad if it's all you can have.
Until artificial blood is available, or they at least come up with some way of stripping off the extra proteins and turning other blood types into O-, I hope I never need an emergency transfusion.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30293064</id>
	<title>...or being British</title>
	<author>Roger W Moore</author>
	<datestamp>1259684640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>More surprising is that being British (and no, that is NOT synonymous with gay) means that you can't give blood in Canada. Apparently we are all contaminated with mad cow disease. I've tried explaining the the British government has been that way since well before BSE existed but CBS just aren't interested.</htmltext>
<tokenext>More surprising is that being British ( and no , that is NOT synonymous with gay ) means that you ca n't give blood in Canada .
Apparently we are all contaminated with mad cow disease .
I 've tried explaining the the British government has been that way since well before BSE existed but CBS just are n't interested .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More surprising is that being British (and no, that is NOT synonymous with gay) means that you can't give blood in Canada.
Apparently we are all contaminated with mad cow disease.
I've tried explaining the the British government has been that way since well before BSE existed but CBS just aren't interested.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30292714</id>
	<title>Re:Donor restrictions</title>
	<author>jpmorgan</author>
	<datestamp>1259681640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You may not remember this, but back in the 90s blood services in Canada were run by the Canadian red cross. They infected tens of thousands of people with HIV and Hepatitis, due to improper handling and care. CBS was created in response to this scandal, so unsurprisingly they have always been enormously risk-averse when it comes to infectious disease. I, for example, am not allowed to donate blood because of time I spent in the UK- they're afraid I may be a mad cow. It seems a bit silly, but I understand the reason. Not everything is bigotry.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You may not remember this , but back in the 90s blood services in Canada were run by the Canadian red cross .
They infected tens of thousands of people with HIV and Hepatitis , due to improper handling and care .
CBS was created in response to this scandal , so unsurprisingly they have always been enormously risk-averse when it comes to infectious disease .
I , for example , am not allowed to donate blood because of time I spent in the UK- they 're afraid I may be a mad cow .
It seems a bit silly , but I understand the reason .
Not everything is bigotry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You may not remember this, but back in the 90s blood services in Canada were run by the Canadian red cross.
They infected tens of thousands of people with HIV and Hepatitis, due to improper handling and care.
CBS was created in response to this scandal, so unsurprisingly they have always been enormously risk-averse when it comes to infectious disease.
I, for example, am not allowed to donate blood because of time I spent in the UK- they're afraid I may be a mad cow.
It seems a bit silly, but I understand the reason.
Not everything is bigotry.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30295730</id>
	<title>Re:Nonsense peddlers often sneak in...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259584860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>but also believes that squirting coffee up his ass cures cancer.</p></div><div><p>but coffee is high in anti-oxidants!</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>but also believes that squirting coffee up his ass cures cancer.but coffee is high in anti-oxidants !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but also believes that squirting coffee up his ass cures cancer.but coffee is high in anti-oxidants!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30296994</id>
	<title>Re:Barking up the wrong tree</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1259595180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>It's a shame that organizations who claim to have such high purposes waste their time and image by ranting about such stupid meaningless things.</i></p><p>(As opposed to wasting time ranting about people who rant?)</p><p>What sort of Ottawa-based issues do you think that the Ottawa Skeptics should be spending time on instead, OOI?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a shame that organizations who claim to have such high purposes waste their time and image by ranting about such stupid meaningless things .
( As opposed to wasting time ranting about people who rant ?
) What sort of Ottawa-based issues do you think that the Ottawa Skeptics should be spending time on instead , OOI ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a shame that organizations who claim to have such high purposes waste their time and image by ranting about such stupid meaningless things.
(As opposed to wasting time ranting about people who rant?
)What sort of Ottawa-based issues do you think that the Ottawa Skeptics should be spending time on instead, OOI?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291760</id>
	<title>Type AB</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259675460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I worked in Japan 20 years ago, I read an article that Sony had established a research center staffed only by people with type AB blood.<br>"Isn't that ridiculous," I snorted to my high-tech colleagues.<br>"Sure is," replied one.  "Who would want to work in such a group?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I worked in Japan 20 years ago , I read an article that Sony had established a research center staffed only by people with type AB blood .
" Is n't that ridiculous , " I snorted to my high-tech colleagues .
" Sure is , " replied one .
" Who would want to work in such a group ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I worked in Japan 20 years ago, I read an article that Sony had established a research center staffed only by people with type AB blood.
"Isn't that ridiculous," I snorted to my high-tech colleagues.
"Sure is," replied one.
"Who would want to work in such a group?
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291542</id>
	<title>Re:America has a governmental version!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259674200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about testing remedies that hold promise, but are not patentable.  To me this is something government should step in and do.  For example, you can read on the NIH.gov website how "elderberry extract" is effective against the flu virus, but only because some limited European double-blind studies have been done and proved its effectiveness, and really it hasn't been tested for safety in children (even though they sell a "for children" version of this medicine.  Also, we don't know how it compares with the much more expensive (and patented) "Tamiflu" product, which the government has stockpiled at who-knows-what expense.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about testing remedies that hold promise , but are not patentable .
To me this is something government should step in and do .
For example , you can read on the NIH.gov website how " elderberry extract " is effective against the flu virus , but only because some limited European double-blind studies have been done and proved its effectiveness , and really it has n't been tested for safety in children ( even though they sell a " for children " version of this medicine .
Also , we do n't know how it compares with the much more expensive ( and patented ) " Tamiflu " product , which the government has stockpiled at who-knows-what expense .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about testing remedies that hold promise, but are not patentable.
To me this is something government should step in and do.
For example, you can read on the NIH.gov website how "elderberry extract" is effective against the flu virus, but only because some limited European double-blind studies have been done and proved its effectiveness, and really it hasn't been tested for safety in children (even though they sell a "for children" version of this medicine.
Also, we don't know how it compares with the much more expensive (and patented) "Tamiflu" product, which the government has stockpiled at who-knows-what expense.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30296916</id>
	<title>Re:It breaks down as follows</title>
	<author>SuiteSisterMary</author>
	<datestamp>1259594640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>God help you if your bloodtype is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/b/, cuz nobody else can.</htmltext>
<tokenext>God help you if your bloodtype is /b/ , cuz nobody else can .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>God help you if your bloodtype is /b/, cuz nobody else can.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30294002</id>
	<title>Re:Japanese Science and Pseudo</title>
	<author>deglr6328</author>
	<datestamp>1259693040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You seriously need to get a life. Like, bad. Posting absurdly long winded pseudoscience apologia on slashdot because a skeptic here once offended one of your delicate irrational beliefs is incredibly pathetic. Elaborate troll is elaborate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You seriously need to get a life .
Like , bad .
Posting absurdly long winded pseudoscience apologia on slashdot because a skeptic here once offended one of your delicate irrational beliefs is incredibly pathetic .
Elaborate troll is elaborate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You seriously need to get a life.
Like, bad.
Posting absurdly long winded pseudoscience apologia on slashdot because a skeptic here once offended one of your delicate irrational beliefs is incredibly pathetic.
Elaborate troll is elaborate.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291654</id>
	<title>Another form of pseudoscience</title>
	<author>gringer</author>
	<datestamp>1259674980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's another form of pseudo-science that is more rampant in the clinical world -- genetic testing. Or, more specifically, carrying out genetic tests for things that only contribute a small fraction (say 2\%) of the total variation, and making it out that it's closer to 100\%:</p><p>"Oh, you have type O blood, that means you're at risk for cardiovascular disease."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's another form of pseudo-science that is more rampant in the clinical world -- genetic testing .
Or , more specifically , carrying out genetic tests for things that only contribute a small fraction ( say 2 \ % ) of the total variation , and making it out that it 's closer to 100 \ % : " Oh , you have type O blood , that means you 're at risk for cardiovascular disease .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's another form of pseudo-science that is more rampant in the clinical world -- genetic testing.
Or, more specifically, carrying out genetic tests for things that only contribute a small fraction (say 2\%) of the total variation, and making it out that it's closer to 100\%:"Oh, you have type O blood, that means you're at risk for cardiovascular disease.
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30295632</id>
	<title>Re:quick silence these heretics!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259583660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because they are wrong.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because they are wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because they are wrong.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291256</id>
	<title>It breaks down as follows</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259672640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Type A: Asshole</p><p>Type B: Bitch/Bastard</p><p>Type AB: Asshole and a Bastard</p><p>Type O: Okay</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Type A : AssholeType B : Bitch/BastardType AB : Asshole and a BastardType O : Okay</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Type A: AssholeType B: Bitch/BastardType AB: Asshole and a BastardType O: Okay</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291134</id>
	<title>But it's all true!</title>
	<author>ChinggisK</author>
	<datestamp>1259672100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Everything they say on there is true and is backed up by science-based organizations. <br> <br>

<a href="http://www.bloodservices.ca/CentreApps/Internet/UW\_V502\_MainEngine.nsf/page/WYT\_E?OpenDocument" title="bloodservices.ca" rel="nofollow">Source.</a> [bloodservices.ca]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Everything they say on there is true and is backed up by science-based organizations .
Source. [ bloodservices.ca ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everything they say on there is true and is backed up by science-based organizations.
Source. [bloodservices.ca]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30293108</id>
	<title>They could keep it without promoting it...</title>
	<author>scott\_karana</author>
	<datestamp>1259685120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not like it would have been hard for them to acknowledge that it's just "popular myth" or something, and keep all the rest of their little attention-drawing page as it is.<br>People like idle little bits of trivia, even if they know there's no scientific basis.<br>"A+ people are pretty! Like me!" et cetera.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not like it would have been hard for them to acknowledge that it 's just " popular myth " or something , and keep all the rest of their little attention-drawing page as it is.People like idle little bits of trivia , even if they know there 's no scientific basis .
" A + people are pretty !
Like me !
" et cetera .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not like it would have been hard for them to acknowledge that it's just "popular myth" or something, and keep all the rest of their little attention-drawing page as it is.People like idle little bits of trivia, even if they know there's no scientific basis.
"A+ people are pretty!
Like me!
" et cetera.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30297038</id>
	<title>Re:There are more important issues to complain abo</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1259595420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, because obviously we can't address two issues at once! If the Ottawa Skeptics are criticising this, it obviously prevents anyone from tackling this other issue!</p><p>By your logic, we shouldn't address the issue of who can donate blood, because there are, in turn, even more important things. According to you, everyone should only spend their time complaining about whatever the Most Important Thing in the world is.</p><p>And anyhow, by your own argument, surely there are more important things to worry about than an organisation criticising something you don't care about?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , because obviously we ca n't address two issues at once !
If the Ottawa Skeptics are criticising this , it obviously prevents anyone from tackling this other issue ! By your logic , we should n't address the issue of who can donate blood , because there are , in turn , even more important things .
According to you , everyone should only spend their time complaining about whatever the Most Important Thing in the world is.And anyhow , by your own argument , surely there are more important things to worry about than an organisation criticising something you do n't care about ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, because obviously we can't address two issues at once!
If the Ottawa Skeptics are criticising this, it obviously prevents anyone from tackling this other issue!By your logic, we shouldn't address the issue of who can donate blood, because there are, in turn, even more important things.
According to you, everyone should only spend their time complaining about whatever the Most Important Thing in the world is.And anyhow, by your own argument, surely there are more important things to worry about than an organisation criticising something you don't care about?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30292114</id>
	<title>Re:Odd name for the group</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259677620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i>The Ottawa Skeptics, based in the Nation's capital</i></p><p>If they're based in Toronto, why are they called the Ottawa Skeptics?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/Go Boomer!</p></div><p>WTF?<br>
&nbsp; <br>Ottawa is Canada's capital...  Toronto is the capital of Ontario.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Ottawa Skeptics , based in the Nation 's capitalIf they 're based in Toronto , why are they called the Ottawa Skeptics ?
/Go Boomer ! WTF ?
  Ottawa is Canada 's capital... Toronto is the capital of Ontario .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> The Ottawa Skeptics, based in the Nation's capitalIf they're based in Toronto, why are they called the Ottawa Skeptics?
/Go Boomer!WTF?
  Ottawa is Canada's capital...  Toronto is the capital of Ontario.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291798</id>
	<title>Re:Odd name for the group</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1259675580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>If they're based in Toronto, why are they called the Ottawa Skeptics? </i></p><p>Maybe they moved and couldn't decide on a new name. Or maybe they had a membership drive in Toronto one year.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If they 're based in Toronto , why are they called the Ottawa Skeptics ?
Maybe they moved and could n't decide on a new name .
Or maybe they had a membership drive in Toronto one year .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they're based in Toronto, why are they called the Ottawa Skeptics?
Maybe they moved and couldn't decide on a new name.
Or maybe they had a membership drive in Toronto one year.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30293476</id>
	<title>Re:Nonsense peddlers often sneak in...</title>
	<author>Toonol</author>
	<datestamp>1259689020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Ok, explain to us why you think this is NOT harmless. </i> <br> <br>

I had a friend who had a really stupid sister.  His sister had a young toddler, and she was discussing him with another really stupid woman.  Her stupid friend asked what sign the kid was.  She answered (I don't remember what sign).  Her stupid friend clucked, and said "Oh... I'm sorry" and she stupidly nodded and said "yeah, I know, it's hard..."<br> <br>

Belief in magic personality-determining preordination is harmful.  You think that kid wasn't harmed by his mother's regret over what she KNEW his personality was going to turn out to be?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok , explain to us why you think this is NOT harmless .
I had a friend who had a really stupid sister .
His sister had a young toddler , and she was discussing him with another really stupid woman .
Her stupid friend asked what sign the kid was .
She answered ( I do n't remember what sign ) .
Her stupid friend clucked , and said " Oh... I 'm sorry " and she stupidly nodded and said " yeah , I know , it 's hard... " Belief in magic personality-determining preordination is harmful .
You think that kid was n't harmed by his mother 's regret over what she KNEW his personality was going to turn out to be ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok, explain to us why you think this is NOT harmless.
I had a friend who had a really stupid sister.
His sister had a young toddler, and she was discussing him with another really stupid woman.
Her stupid friend asked what sign the kid was.
She answered (I don't remember what sign).
Her stupid friend clucked, and said "Oh... I'm sorry" and she stupidly nodded and said "yeah, I know, it's hard..." 

Belief in magic personality-determining preordination is harmful.
You think that kid wasn't harmed by his mother's regret over what she KNEW his personality was going to turn out to be?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30292150</id>
	<title>Japanese Science and Pseudo</title>
	<author>DynaSoar</author>
	<datestamp>1259677860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've run across several things from Japan that are either science not supported elsewhere or pseudo-science, depending on -- well, on which you believe.</p><p>There's 10 times more schizophrenia in the US than Japan. Environment? Cultural? No, books. The diagnostic criteria used in Japan is far more stringent, with 90\% of what we'd call schizophrenia being called something else by them. How do you tell who's right? Either by where you're standing, or by knowing a lot more about schizophrenia than anyone else on the planet, because both are based on correct but incomplete science, thus conflicting results.</p><p>In EEG research Japanese studies often include analysis of 'midline frontal theta', and hardly anyone other than them ever does. It's there, but western research only notes the existence. Japanese science claims it correlates to personality and clinical diagnoses. There are other constructs they include in studies that are otherwise complete and correct in western terms, most of them also relate to the same personality construct.</p><p>Here's where culture shoulders in. The clinical construct so often studied in Japanese science is that of 'extroversion'. In western science that's one end of a range, the other being introversion. In western culture the latter is more often a social problem, being related to shyness and to that ubiquitous fear, speaking in public. If anything, extroversion is preferred here. In Japan, where the culture of conformity can be described with the phrase "the nail that stands out gets pounded down", introversion is closer to successful cultural adaptation than its opposite.</p><p>Related, when researchers started looking at the perceptual crossover effect called synesthesia, they were amazed to find that it did not exist in Japan. When neurological evidence was found explaining its nature, they started to wonder why Japanese did not have this unusual wiring. When they went to study it experimentally, they included a test to check for non-conscious manifestations of synesthesia. Lo and behold, the Japanese have this just as often as everyone else. But they deny it and claim nothing unusual happens. Far be it from the Japanese to go around admitting to being different.</p><p>I personally have a beef with the construct 'personality' and how it's studied. But the research constantly shows something there, and biochemical testing does support some of it. In our tobacco and Parkinson's studies we examined monoamine oxidase activation in the mitochondria of platelets. That's the stuff that deactivates dopamine, epinephrine, norepinephrine, serotonin and a few other neurotransmitters prior to recycling. Differenes in MAO activation mean differences in the amount of those chemicals, and so a difference in brain operation. Now this is nuts and bolts stuff I can wrap my pragmatic methodologist's head around. Hell yes there's scientific backing. NIH's National Library of Medicine database PubMed <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez" title="nih.gov" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez</a> [nih.gov] shows about 150 if you simply search for "blood mao personality". With other search terms related to blood or its components, and personality one can probably get a good idea that personality is based in the physical body, and can sometimes be detected in blood.</p><p>But ABO typing related to personality? Preposterous. So don't go to PubMed, don't put the three words "blood type personality" into the search term bar, and don't look through over 1,000 results, 75 of which are reviews covering up to decades of research and 175 having free full text available should one want to not read any of the actual work done. That's what today's "skeptic" does. Rather than researching claims to see if there's support, they simply criticize, often using derogatory language. It is not skepticism to assume one is correct and someone else wrong. That's pre-judging, the latin term often used being a direct translation of that: prejudice. There's safety in ignorance -- it makes one correct, and skeptics seem to need to be correct</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've run across several things from Japan that are either science not supported elsewhere or pseudo-science , depending on -- well , on which you believe.There 's 10 times more schizophrenia in the US than Japan .
Environment ? Cultural ?
No , books .
The diagnostic criteria used in Japan is far more stringent , with 90 \ % of what we 'd call schizophrenia being called something else by them .
How do you tell who 's right ?
Either by where you 're standing , or by knowing a lot more about schizophrenia than anyone else on the planet , because both are based on correct but incomplete science , thus conflicting results.In EEG research Japanese studies often include analysis of 'midline frontal theta ' , and hardly anyone other than them ever does .
It 's there , but western research only notes the existence .
Japanese science claims it correlates to personality and clinical diagnoses .
There are other constructs they include in studies that are otherwise complete and correct in western terms , most of them also relate to the same personality construct.Here 's where culture shoulders in .
The clinical construct so often studied in Japanese science is that of 'extroversion' .
In western science that 's one end of a range , the other being introversion .
In western culture the latter is more often a social problem , being related to shyness and to that ubiquitous fear , speaking in public .
If anything , extroversion is preferred here .
In Japan , where the culture of conformity can be described with the phrase " the nail that stands out gets pounded down " , introversion is closer to successful cultural adaptation than its opposite.Related , when researchers started looking at the perceptual crossover effect called synesthesia , they were amazed to find that it did not exist in Japan .
When neurological evidence was found explaining its nature , they started to wonder why Japanese did not have this unusual wiring .
When they went to study it experimentally , they included a test to check for non-conscious manifestations of synesthesia .
Lo and behold , the Japanese have this just as often as everyone else .
But they deny it and claim nothing unusual happens .
Far be it from the Japanese to go around admitting to being different.I personally have a beef with the construct 'personality ' and how it 's studied .
But the research constantly shows something there , and biochemical testing does support some of it .
In our tobacco and Parkinson 's studies we examined monoamine oxidase activation in the mitochondria of platelets .
That 's the stuff that deactivates dopamine , epinephrine , norepinephrine , serotonin and a few other neurotransmitters prior to recycling .
Differenes in MAO activation mean differences in the amount of those chemicals , and so a difference in brain operation .
Now this is nuts and bolts stuff I can wrap my pragmatic methodologist 's head around .
Hell yes there 's scientific backing .
NIH 's National Library of Medicine database PubMed http : //www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez [ nih.gov ] shows about 150 if you simply search for " blood mao personality " .
With other search terms related to blood or its components , and personality one can probably get a good idea that personality is based in the physical body , and can sometimes be detected in blood.But ABO typing related to personality ?
Preposterous. So do n't go to PubMed , do n't put the three words " blood type personality " into the search term bar , and do n't look through over 1,000 results , 75 of which are reviews covering up to decades of research and 175 having free full text available should one want to not read any of the actual work done .
That 's what today 's " skeptic " does .
Rather than researching claims to see if there 's support , they simply criticize , often using derogatory language .
It is not skepticism to assume one is correct and someone else wrong .
That 's pre-judging , the latin term often used being a direct translation of that : prejudice .
There 's safety in ignorance -- it makes one correct , and skeptics seem to need to be correct</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've run across several things from Japan that are either science not supported elsewhere or pseudo-science, depending on -- well, on which you believe.There's 10 times more schizophrenia in the US than Japan.
Environment? Cultural?
No, books.
The diagnostic criteria used in Japan is far more stringent, with 90\% of what we'd call schizophrenia being called something else by them.
How do you tell who's right?
Either by where you're standing, or by knowing a lot more about schizophrenia than anyone else on the planet, because both are based on correct but incomplete science, thus conflicting results.In EEG research Japanese studies often include analysis of 'midline frontal theta', and hardly anyone other than them ever does.
It's there, but western research only notes the existence.
Japanese science claims it correlates to personality and clinical diagnoses.
There are other constructs they include in studies that are otherwise complete and correct in western terms, most of them also relate to the same personality construct.Here's where culture shoulders in.
The clinical construct so often studied in Japanese science is that of 'extroversion'.
In western science that's one end of a range, the other being introversion.
In western culture the latter is more often a social problem, being related to shyness and to that ubiquitous fear, speaking in public.
If anything, extroversion is preferred here.
In Japan, where the culture of conformity can be described with the phrase "the nail that stands out gets pounded down", introversion is closer to successful cultural adaptation than its opposite.Related, when researchers started looking at the perceptual crossover effect called synesthesia, they were amazed to find that it did not exist in Japan.
When neurological evidence was found explaining its nature, they started to wonder why Japanese did not have this unusual wiring.
When they went to study it experimentally, they included a test to check for non-conscious manifestations of synesthesia.
Lo and behold, the Japanese have this just as often as everyone else.
But they deny it and claim nothing unusual happens.
Far be it from the Japanese to go around admitting to being different.I personally have a beef with the construct 'personality' and how it's studied.
But the research constantly shows something there, and biochemical testing does support some of it.
In our tobacco and Parkinson's studies we examined monoamine oxidase activation in the mitochondria of platelets.
That's the stuff that deactivates dopamine, epinephrine, norepinephrine, serotonin and a few other neurotransmitters prior to recycling.
Differenes in MAO activation mean differences in the amount of those chemicals, and so a difference in brain operation.
Now this is nuts and bolts stuff I can wrap my pragmatic methodologist's head around.
Hell yes there's scientific backing.
NIH's National Library of Medicine database PubMed http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez [nih.gov] shows about 150 if you simply search for "blood mao personality".
With other search terms related to blood or its components, and personality one can probably get a good idea that personality is based in the physical body, and can sometimes be detected in blood.But ABO typing related to personality?
Preposterous. So don't go to PubMed, don't put the three words "blood type personality" into the search term bar, and don't look through over 1,000 results, 75 of which are reviews covering up to decades of research and 175 having free full text available should one want to not read any of the actual work done.
That's what today's "skeptic" does.
Rather than researching claims to see if there's support, they simply criticize, often using derogatory language.
It is not skepticism to assume one is correct and someone else wrong.
That's pre-judging, the latin term often used being a direct translation of that: prejudice.
There's safety in ignorance -- it makes one correct, and skeptics seem to need to be correct</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291696</id>
	<title>Donor restrictions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259675100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Canadian Blood Services has already proven themselves to be an organization that makes decisions according to myth and rumor rather than fact.  Despite a large amount of controversy (and a grilling of one of the organization's leaders on CBC radio) CBS not only refuses to take donations by homosexual or bisexual men (despite the fact that every unit of blood that is donated is tested) who have been sexually active since I believe the late 70s, but refuses to take donations from women who have been sexually active with a bisexual man within the last several years.  This is despite the fact that there has never been any statistical evidence that women in this group have any higher risk than the general population of an HIV infection.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Canadian Blood Services has already proven themselves to be an organization that makes decisions according to myth and rumor rather than fact .
Despite a large amount of controversy ( and a grilling of one of the organization 's leaders on CBC radio ) CBS not only refuses to take donations by homosexual or bisexual men ( despite the fact that every unit of blood that is donated is tested ) who have been sexually active since I believe the late 70s , but refuses to take donations from women who have been sexually active with a bisexual man within the last several years .
This is despite the fact that there has never been any statistical evidence that women in this group have any higher risk than the general population of an HIV infection .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Canadian Blood Services has already proven themselves to be an organization that makes decisions according to myth and rumor rather than fact.
Despite a large amount of controversy (and a grilling of one of the organization's leaders on CBC radio) CBS not only refuses to take donations by homosexual or bisexual men (despite the fact that every unit of blood that is donated is tested) who have been sexually active since I believe the late 70s, but refuses to take donations from women who have been sexually active with a bisexual man within the last several years.
This is despite the fact that there has never been any statistical evidence that women in this group have any higher risk than the general population of an HIV infection.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291870</id>
	<title>quick silence these heretics!!!</title>
	<author>shaitand</author>
	<datestamp>1259675940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can someone remind me why ANYONE needs to do something about a private non-profit expressing views that haven't been vetted via the scientific method?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can someone remind me why ANYONE needs to do something about a private non-profit expressing views that have n't been vetted via the scientific method ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can someone remind me why ANYONE needs to do something about a private non-profit expressing views that haven't been vetted via the scientific method?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291498</id>
	<title>Re:Not surprising.</title>
	<author>interkin3tic</author>
	<datestamp>1259673960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If you lived in Ottawa, like I do, you'd understand that we're nearly the most absurdly "politically correct" place on earth.</p></div><p>From what I've seen, the Japanese take this only slightly more seriously than people here in the US take horoscopes.  If Ottawa is actually concerned about not offending Japanese Ottowans, I think they should probably be more concerned about not assuming the Japanese are that stupid.</p><p>Looking at the website in question though, it seems like it's just a gimmick to get people to donate.</p><p>For type O here is the full extent of the information:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>So, you&rsquo;re an O. You already know that having type O blood suggests that you might be competitive, goal oriented and a real meat eater. Did you also know that anthropologists believe that type O is the oldest and most common blood type, originating in Southern Africa?</p><p>[next page]</p><p>45\% of Canadians have type O blood. Group O blood is like no other and can only receive blood from other people who are group O.</p><p>One unit of your blood can help save up to three lives, and we know that giving blood is in your nature.</p><p>Many experts believe that your personality, career and even your diet can be influenced by your blood type. In addition to your tendency towards romanticism, an aptitude for writing and a love of hearty eating and exercise, here are a few other things you should know about being an O [3x3 chart here with fluff]</p><p>[next page]</p><p>All Types</p><p>Every minute of every day, someone in Canada needs blood. Blood is used to help save the lives of ordinary people in extraordinary health situations.</p><p>If you are unsure of your eligibility, please take a look at our basic eligibility and temporary and indefinite deferral information, or call 1 888 2 DONATE (1 888 236-6283) for assistance.</p><p>If you have already made an appointment to donate, thank you. If not, please review our clinic locator and call 1 888 2 DONATE (1 888 236-6283) to book an appointment or to find a "What's Your Type" even in your community today.</p><p>For more information on blood and blood types, please browse our Web site or visit:</p></div></div>
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<tokenext>If you lived in Ottawa , like I do , you 'd understand that we 're nearly the most absurdly " politically correct " place on earth.From what I 've seen , the Japanese take this only slightly more seriously than people here in the US take horoscopes .
If Ottawa is actually concerned about not offending Japanese Ottowans , I think they should probably be more concerned about not assuming the Japanese are that stupid.Looking at the website in question though , it seems like it 's just a gimmick to get people to donate.For type O here is the full extent of the information : So , you    re an O. You already know that having type O blood suggests that you might be competitive , goal oriented and a real meat eater .
Did you also know that anthropologists believe that type O is the oldest and most common blood type , originating in Southern Africa ?
[ next page ] 45 \ % of Canadians have type O blood .
Group O blood is like no other and can only receive blood from other people who are group O.One unit of your blood can help save up to three lives , and we know that giving blood is in your nature.Many experts believe that your personality , career and even your diet can be influenced by your blood type .
In addition to your tendency towards romanticism , an aptitude for writing and a love of hearty eating and exercise , here are a few other things you should know about being an O [ 3x3 chart here with fluff ] [ next page ] All TypesEvery minute of every day , someone in Canada needs blood .
Blood is used to help save the lives of ordinary people in extraordinary health situations.If you are unsure of your eligibility , please take a look at our basic eligibility and temporary and indefinite deferral information , or call 1 888 2 DONATE ( 1 888 236-6283 ) for assistance.If you have already made an appointment to donate , thank you .
If not , please review our clinic locator and call 1 888 2 DONATE ( 1 888 236-6283 ) to book an appointment or to find a " What 's Your Type " even in your community today.For more information on blood and blood types , please browse our Web site or visit :</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you lived in Ottawa, like I do, you'd understand that we're nearly the most absurdly "politically correct" place on earth.From what I've seen, the Japanese take this only slightly more seriously than people here in the US take horoscopes.
If Ottawa is actually concerned about not offending Japanese Ottowans, I think they should probably be more concerned about not assuming the Japanese are that stupid.Looking at the website in question though, it seems like it's just a gimmick to get people to donate.For type O here is the full extent of the information:So, you’re an O. You already know that having type O blood suggests that you might be competitive, goal oriented and a real meat eater.
Did you also know that anthropologists believe that type O is the oldest and most common blood type, originating in Southern Africa?
[next page]45\% of Canadians have type O blood.
Group O blood is like no other and can only receive blood from other people who are group O.One unit of your blood can help save up to three lives, and we know that giving blood is in your nature.Many experts believe that your personality, career and even your diet can be influenced by your blood type.
In addition to your tendency towards romanticism, an aptitude for writing and a love of hearty eating and exercise, here are a few other things you should know about being an O [3x3 chart here with fluff][next page]All TypesEvery minute of every day, someone in Canada needs blood.
Blood is used to help save the lives of ordinary people in extraordinary health situations.If you are unsure of your eligibility, please take a look at our basic eligibility and temporary and indefinite deferral information, or call 1 888 2 DONATE (1 888 236-6283) for assistance.If you have already made an appointment to donate, thank you.
If not, please review our clinic locator and call 1 888 2 DONATE (1 888 236-6283) to book an appointment or to find a "What's Your Type" even in your community today.For more information on blood and blood types, please browse our Web site or visit:
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291824</id>
	<title>Re:It breaks down as follows</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259675700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Type Orangutan.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Type Orangutan .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Type Orangutan.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30295030</id>
	<title>Canadian Blood Services</title>
	<author>fireheadca</author>
	<datestamp>1259575800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ad campaign of ketsueki-gata == Success!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ad campaign of ketsueki-gata = = Success !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ad campaign of ketsueki-gata == Success!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30292920</id>
	<title>Scary moment</title>
	<author>desertfoxmb</author>
	<datestamp>1259683440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Did anyone else read that as "Canadian Blood Sausages Promote Pseudo-science"?

I was staggered.  I mean, first it was global warming (ClimateGate) and now meat products (GrinderGate)?  My worldview was devastated for a moment.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did anyone else read that as " Canadian Blood Sausages Promote Pseudo-science " ?
I was staggered .
I mean , first it was global warming ( ClimateGate ) and now meat products ( GrinderGate ) ?
My worldview was devastated for a moment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did anyone else read that as "Canadian Blood Sausages Promote Pseudo-science"?
I was staggered.
I mean, first it was global warming (ClimateGate) and now meat products (GrinderGate)?
My worldview was devastated for a moment.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291156</id>
	<title>Barking up the wrong tree</title>
	<author>synthesizerpatel</author>
	<datestamp>1259672220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>After looking through the site, it's pretty clearly just a marketing ploy to engage with people who believe it to be true.</p><p>It even says right up front:  'The What's Your Type? program is a recruitment program with information provided for the participants' enjoyment. You should seek medical supervision for all matters regarding your health.'</p><p>I don't care if you believe in pseudo-science, if I need a transfusion and you're a blood match as long as it's clean \_Go team blood-donor!\_</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>After looking through the site , it 's pretty clearly just a marketing ploy to engage with people who believe it to be true.It even says right up front : 'The What 's Your Type ?
program is a recruitment program with information provided for the participants ' enjoyment .
You should seek medical supervision for all matters regarding your health .
'I do n't care if you believe in pseudo-science , if I need a transfusion and you 're a blood match as long as it 's clean \ _Go team blood-donor ! \ _</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After looking through the site, it's pretty clearly just a marketing ploy to engage with people who believe it to be true.It even says right up front:  'The What's Your Type?
program is a recruitment program with information provided for the participants' enjoyment.
You should seek medical supervision for all matters regarding your health.
'I don't care if you believe in pseudo-science, if I need a transfusion and you're a blood match as long as it's clean \_Go team blood-donor!\_</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291456</id>
	<title>Politically correct?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259673660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>If you lived in Ottawa, like I do, you'd understand that we're nearly the most absurdly "politically correct" place on earth. This is reflected by a common effort to be "inclusive" to other schools of thought. Also, there are more complainers and "letter writers" in Ottawa than any other city on Earth. I'm sure, so none of this seems out of the ordinary to me.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
It's still stupid, and as a Canadian I'm just glad that I live in Quebec and <a href="http://www.hema-quebec.qc.ca/francais/index.htm" title="hema-quebec.qc.ca">we run our program separately</a> [hema-quebec.qc.ca]. <a href="http://www.hema-quebec.qc.ca/anglais/index.htm" title="hema-quebec.qc.ca">english version</a> [hema-quebec.qc.ca].<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... though someone should tell them the blink tag is dead!
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<tokenext>If you lived in Ottawa , like I do , you 'd understand that we 're nearly the most absurdly " politically correct " place on earth .
This is reflected by a common effort to be " inclusive " to other schools of thought .
Also , there are more complainers and " letter writers " in Ottawa than any other city on Earth .
I 'm sure , so none of this seems out of the ordinary to me .
It 's still stupid , and as a Canadian I 'm just glad that I live in Quebec and we run our program separately [ hema-quebec.qc.ca ] .
english version [ hema-quebec.qc.ca ] .
... though someone should tell them the blink tag is dead !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you lived in Ottawa, like I do, you'd understand that we're nearly the most absurdly "politically correct" place on earth.
This is reflected by a common effort to be "inclusive" to other schools of thought.
Also, there are more complainers and "letter writers" in Ottawa than any other city on Earth.
I'm sure, so none of this seems out of the ordinary to me.
It's still stupid, and as a Canadian I'm just glad that I live in Quebec and we run our program separately [hema-quebec.qc.ca].
english version [hema-quebec.qc.ca].
... though someone should tell them the blink tag is dead!

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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291442</id>
	<title>Re:Barking up the wrong tree</title>
	<author>Obfuscant</author>
	<datestamp>1259673600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>After looking through the site, it's pretty clearly just a marketing ploy to engage with people who believe it to be true.</i> <p>
It's not even that. It's a way to break the ice with people who would be bored to tears with "facts" about blood. It's meant for fun, not education, other than educating people that giving blood is a good thing.</p><p>
It's not the Canadian Blood Service's job to teach every person on the planet every fact about blood nor are they required to UNteach every superstition.</p><p>
As for the "skeptics", they need to get a life or borrow a sense of humor. And get some honesty . The disclaimer they say you'll miss if you blink was quite visible to this reader, even while blinking.</p><p>
It's a shame that organizations who claim to have such high purposes waste their time and image by ranting about such stupid meaningless things.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>After looking through the site , it 's pretty clearly just a marketing ploy to engage with people who believe it to be true .
It 's not even that .
It 's a way to break the ice with people who would be bored to tears with " facts " about blood .
It 's meant for fun , not education , other than educating people that giving blood is a good thing .
It 's not the Canadian Blood Service 's job to teach every person on the planet every fact about blood nor are they required to UNteach every superstition .
As for the " skeptics " , they need to get a life or borrow a sense of humor .
And get some honesty .
The disclaimer they say you 'll miss if you blink was quite visible to this reader , even while blinking .
It 's a shame that organizations who claim to have such high purposes waste their time and image by ranting about such stupid meaningless things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After looking through the site, it's pretty clearly just a marketing ploy to engage with people who believe it to be true.
It's not even that.
It's a way to break the ice with people who would be bored to tears with "facts" about blood.
It's meant for fun, not education, other than educating people that giving blood is a good thing.
It's not the Canadian Blood Service's job to teach every person on the planet every fact about blood nor are they required to UNteach every superstition.
As for the "skeptics", they need to get a life or borrow a sense of humor.
And get some honesty .
The disclaimer they say you'll miss if you blink was quite visible to this reader, even while blinking.
It's a shame that organizations who claim to have such high purposes waste their time and image by ranting about such stupid meaningless things.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30296310</id>
	<title>Re:Nonsense peddlers often sneak in...</title>
	<author>bkr1\_2k</author>
	<datestamp>1259590680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It IS harmless.  People who believe this stuff aren't harming anyone (except possibly themselves) and if it does bring in those people as donors, who gives a shit?  It's not like their blood is going to make the recipient stupider.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It IS harmless .
People who believe this stuff are n't harming anyone ( except possibly themselves ) and if it does bring in those people as donors , who gives a shit ?
It 's not like their blood is going to make the recipient stupider .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It IS harmless.
People who believe this stuff aren't harming anyone (except possibly themselves) and if it does bring in those people as donors, who gives a shit?
It's not like their blood is going to make the recipient stupider.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30293048</id>
	<title>Re:It breaks down as follows</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259684580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>No no no.<br> <br>

Type B: Dicks<br>
<br>
Type O: Pussies<br>
<br>
Type A: Assholes<br>
<br>
Type AB: Dickassholes</htmltext>
<tokenext>No no no .
Type B : Dicks Type O : Pussies Type A : Assholes Type AB : Dickassholes</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No no no.
Type B: Dicks

Type O: Pussies

Type A: Assholes

Type AB: Dickassholes</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30294592</id>
	<title>Re:Not surprising.</title>
	<author>Kongming</author>
	<datestamp>1259613060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>From what I've seen, the Japanese take this only slightly more seriously than people here in the US take horoscopes.</p></div><p>IANJ, but I am given to understand that in Japan, blood type is still asked in some job interviews. There is even a word in Japanese, burahara, which refers to discrimination on the basis of blood type.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>From what I 've seen , the Japanese take this only slightly more seriously than people here in the US take horoscopes.IANJ , but I am given to understand that in Japan , blood type is still asked in some job interviews .
There is even a word in Japanese , burahara , which refers to discrimination on the basis of blood type .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From what I've seen, the Japanese take this only slightly more seriously than people here in the US take horoscopes.IANJ, but I am given to understand that in Japan, blood type is still asked in some job interviews.
There is even a word in Japanese, burahara, which refers to discrimination on the basis of blood type.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291268</id>
	<title>Who cares?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259672700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It isn't doing any harm by being there, whether it is true or not.<br>This isn't like teaching creationism in biology, which directly conflicts with something of greater scientific worth. The only thing this conflicts with is the view that it is wrong.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is n't doing any harm by being there , whether it is true or not.This is n't like teaching creationism in biology , which directly conflicts with something of greater scientific worth .
The only thing this conflicts with is the view that it is wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It isn't doing any harm by being there, whether it is true or not.This isn't like teaching creationism in biology, which directly conflicts with something of greater scientific worth.
The only thing this conflicts with is the view that it is wrong.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30294524</id>
	<title>Re:Barking up the wrong tree</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259612100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>if I need a transfusion and you're a blood match as long as it's clean \_Go team blood-donor!\_</i><br>I would never allow to get transfusion: all the people of my blood type are superstitious assholes and I dont want their blood to circulate in my veins.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>if I need a transfusion and you 're a blood match as long as it 's clean \ _Go team blood-donor ! \ _I would never allow to get transfusion : all the people of my blood type are superstitious assholes and I dont want their blood to circulate in my veins .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>if I need a transfusion and you're a blood match as long as it's clean \_Go team blood-donor!\_I would never allow to get transfusion: all the people of my blood type are superstitious assholes and I dont want their blood to circulate in my veins.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291796</id>
	<title>Re:There are more important issues to complain abo</title>
	<author>MarcoAtWork</author>
	<datestamp>1259675580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>what about anybody that spent more than 5 years in Europe cannot donate blood ever period? or if you have spent more than 6 months in France or the UK between 1980 and 1996, or if you were ever treated with blood products made in Europe at any time since 1980?</p><p>I think the vCJD policy is way, way, way excessive and basically making any European immigrant ineligible to donate blood is extremely shortsighted, also considering how far out of the way  CBC goes with advertising and campaigns to get people to donate blood.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>what about anybody that spent more than 5 years in Europe can not donate blood ever period ?
or if you have spent more than 6 months in France or the UK between 1980 and 1996 , or if you were ever treated with blood products made in Europe at any time since 1980 ? I think the vCJD policy is way , way , way excessive and basically making any European immigrant ineligible to donate blood is extremely shortsighted , also considering how far out of the way CBC goes with advertising and campaigns to get people to donate blood .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what about anybody that spent more than 5 years in Europe cannot donate blood ever period?
or if you have spent more than 6 months in France or the UK between 1980 and 1996, or if you were ever treated with blood products made in Europe at any time since 1980?I think the vCJD policy is way, way, way excessive and basically making any European immigrant ineligible to donate blood is extremely shortsighted, also considering how far out of the way  CBC goes with advertising and campaigns to get people to donate blood.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30297446</id>
	<title>Choose your battles...</title>
	<author>Five Bucks!</author>
	<datestamp>1259597400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hate pseudoscience as much as the next red-blooded nerd, but honestly... people should choose to be outraged about relevant "issues".</p><p>The Canadian Blood Service is completely dependent on unpaid, volunteer donors. With people's fear of AIDS, malaria, vCJD and other blood-bourne pathogens, the CBS has to do everything in it's power to ensure the Canadian blood supply is sustainable.</p><p>Since volunteers are unpaid, they have to be motivated to sit in a chair for 15 minutes with a rather large needle stuck in their elbow. Motivation can take the form of many things, including silly personality profiles based on blood type. You do what it takes to ensure the organisation is perceived as a happy and fun place to go to give part of your body away. If I am in an accident and need blood products, I don't care if the blood came from an uneducated paper-folder who takes these profiles as gospel, or a PhD in cognitive neuroscience who vomits every time she sees a Zodiak symbol.</p><p>If people want to be pissed at the CBS, be mad about the default rejection of blood from homosexual men involved in long-term monogamous relationships.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hate pseudoscience as much as the next red-blooded nerd , but honestly... people should choose to be outraged about relevant " issues " .The Canadian Blood Service is completely dependent on unpaid , volunteer donors .
With people 's fear of AIDS , malaria , vCJD and other blood-bourne pathogens , the CBS has to do everything in it 's power to ensure the Canadian blood supply is sustainable.Since volunteers are unpaid , they have to be motivated to sit in a chair for 15 minutes with a rather large needle stuck in their elbow .
Motivation can take the form of many things , including silly personality profiles based on blood type .
You do what it takes to ensure the organisation is perceived as a happy and fun place to go to give part of your body away .
If I am in an accident and need blood products , I do n't care if the blood came from an uneducated paper-folder who takes these profiles as gospel , or a PhD in cognitive neuroscience who vomits every time she sees a Zodiak symbol.If people want to be pissed at the CBS , be mad about the default rejection of blood from homosexual men involved in long-term monogamous relationships .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hate pseudoscience as much as the next red-blooded nerd, but honestly... people should choose to be outraged about relevant "issues".The Canadian Blood Service is completely dependent on unpaid, volunteer donors.
With people's fear of AIDS, malaria, vCJD and other blood-bourne pathogens, the CBS has to do everything in it's power to ensure the Canadian blood supply is sustainable.Since volunteers are unpaid, they have to be motivated to sit in a chair for 15 minutes with a rather large needle stuck in their elbow.
Motivation can take the form of many things, including silly personality profiles based on blood type.
You do what it takes to ensure the organisation is perceived as a happy and fun place to go to give part of your body away.
If I am in an accident and need blood products, I don't care if the blood came from an uneducated paper-folder who takes these profiles as gospel, or a PhD in cognitive neuroscience who vomits every time she sees a Zodiak symbol.If people want to be pissed at the CBS, be mad about the default rejection of blood from homosexual men involved in long-term monogamous relationships.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291280</id>
	<title>It may be pseudoscience but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259672700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is it justified if it saves lives? The vast majority of people don't donate blood because they can't be bothered to. If there can be a successful "social" motivation to donate blood (such as emphasize the alleged importance of blood type in social relationships), and the result is more blood donated and more lives saved, is it justified? Lies or not lies, to me it seems like a much better alternative than a mandatory blood "donation" quota that many countries have.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it justified if it saves lives ?
The vast majority of people do n't donate blood because they ca n't be bothered to .
If there can be a successful " social " motivation to donate blood ( such as emphasize the alleged importance of blood type in social relationships ) , and the result is more blood donated and more lives saved , is it justified ?
Lies or not lies , to me it seems like a much better alternative than a mandatory blood " donation " quota that many countries have .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it justified if it saves lives?
The vast majority of people don't donate blood because they can't be bothered to.
If there can be a successful "social" motivation to donate blood (such as emphasize the alleged importance of blood type in social relationships), and the result is more blood donated and more lives saved, is it justified?
Lies or not lies, to me it seems like a much better alternative than a mandatory blood "donation" quota that many countries have.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30293552</id>
	<title>Re:There are more important issues to complain abo</title>
	<author>Toonol</author>
	<datestamp>1259689500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Gays and anyone who visits Africa cannot give blood. This is far more serious.</i> <br> <br>

Why?  That's a sensible reaction to the fact that they're more likely to have communicable blood diseases (AIDs specifically, of course).  At least, that's the reasoning... are you arguing that isn't true?  Honestly, I haven't paid much attention... has the incidence of AIDs leveled out between the homosexual and heterosexual communities?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Gays and anyone who visits Africa can not give blood .
This is far more serious .
Why ? That 's a sensible reaction to the fact that they 're more likely to have communicable blood diseases ( AIDs specifically , of course ) .
At least , that 's the reasoning... are you arguing that is n't true ?
Honestly , I have n't paid much attention... has the incidence of AIDs leveled out between the homosexual and heterosexual communities ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gays and anyone who visits Africa cannot give blood.
This is far more serious.
Why?  That's a sensible reaction to the fact that they're more likely to have communicable blood diseases (AIDs specifically, of course).
At least, that's the reasoning... are you arguing that isn't true?
Honestly, I haven't paid much attention... has the incidence of AIDs leveled out between the homosexual and heterosexual communities?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30292592</id>
	<title>For recruitment and entertainment purposes only</title>
	<author>thirty-seven</author>
	<datestamp>1259680740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Canadian Blood Services "What's Your Type" page (linked in the summary) says (emphasis mine):<blockquote><div><p>The What's Your Type? program is a <b>recruitment program</b> with information provided <b>for the participants' enjoyment</b>. You should seek medical supervision for all matters regarding your health.</p></div></blockquote><p>No matter which blood type you select, it gives you a few tidbits of bullshit about what your personality and preferred diet might be, then a few tidbits of bullshit about what careers you might do well at.  Then it tells you that no matter what your type is, it is important to donate blood, how you can donate, etc.</p><p>So I don't think this is an example of Canadian Blood Services promoting or believing this pseudo-science.  I don't have a problem with them having a "fun" online activity like this, if it encourages more people to give blood.  However, I would prefer if it more explicitly said on the first page that these are beliefs from the Japanese culture, and state that they have <i>no basis in science</i>, but that they can be fun and interesting to read about.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Canadian Blood Services " What 's Your Type " page ( linked in the summary ) says ( emphasis mine ) : The What 's Your Type ?
program is a recruitment program with information provided for the participants ' enjoyment .
You should seek medical supervision for all matters regarding your health.No matter which blood type you select , it gives you a few tidbits of bullshit about what your personality and preferred diet might be , then a few tidbits of bullshit about what careers you might do well at .
Then it tells you that no matter what your type is , it is important to donate blood , how you can donate , etc.So I do n't think this is an example of Canadian Blood Services promoting or believing this pseudo-science .
I do n't have a problem with them having a " fun " online activity like this , if it encourages more people to give blood .
However , I would prefer if it more explicitly said on the first page that these are beliefs from the Japanese culture , and state that they have no basis in science , but that they can be fun and interesting to read about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Canadian Blood Services "What's Your Type" page (linked in the summary) says (emphasis mine):The What's Your Type?
program is a recruitment program with information provided for the participants' enjoyment.
You should seek medical supervision for all matters regarding your health.No matter which blood type you select, it gives you a few tidbits of bullshit about what your personality and preferred diet might be, then a few tidbits of bullshit about what careers you might do well at.
Then it tells you that no matter what your type is, it is important to donate blood, how you can donate, etc.So I don't think this is an example of Canadian Blood Services promoting or believing this pseudo-science.
I don't have a problem with them having a "fun" online activity like this, if it encourages more people to give blood.
However, I would prefer if it more explicitly said on the first page that these are beliefs from the Japanese culture, and state that they have no basis in science, but that they can be fun and interesting to read about.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291360</id>
	<title>Re:Odd name for the group</title>
	<author>Tanktalus</author>
	<datestamp>1259673180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You've obviously never lived in Toronto.  They think they're not only the centre of the universe, but that "Canada" and "Toronto" are the same thing.</p><p>Those who have actually passed (the local version of) geography assume that because "Ottawa" is in "Canada" that it must be a suburb of Toronto.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 've obviously never lived in Toronto .
They think they 're not only the centre of the universe , but that " Canada " and " Toronto " are the same thing.Those who have actually passed ( the local version of ) geography assume that because " Ottawa " is in " Canada " that it must be a suburb of Toronto .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You've obviously never lived in Toronto.
They think they're not only the centre of the universe, but that "Canada" and "Toronto" are the same thing.Those who have actually passed (the local version of) geography assume that because "Ottawa" is in "Canada" that it must be a suburb of Toronto.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291306</id>
	<title>There are more important issues to complain about</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259672940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Gays and anyone who visits Africa cannot give blood. This is far more serious.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Gays and anyone who visits Africa can not give blood .
This is far more serious .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gays and anyone who visits Africa cannot give blood.
This is far more serious.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30296566</id>
	<title>Lighten up</title>
	<author>sherriw</author>
	<datestamp>1259592480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh give me a break. It's just a cute bit of semi-interesting fun on their website- something to get people thinking about blood and they ask for a donation. Big deal. I had a look and didn't get the impression for a second that they were presenting it as fact.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh give me a break .
It 's just a cute bit of semi-interesting fun on their website- something to get people thinking about blood and they ask for a donation .
Big deal .
I had a look and did n't get the impression for a second that they were presenting it as fact .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh give me a break.
It's just a cute bit of semi-interesting fun on their website- something to get people thinking about blood and they ask for a donation.
Big deal.
I had a look and didn't get the impression for a second that they were presenting it as fact.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30294756</id>
	<title>Re:Odd name for the group</title>
	<author>YourExperiment</author>
	<datestamp>1259572020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because the Toronto Skeptics are based in Vancouver.</p><p>Don't even get me started on the Unsure People of Montreal. Splitters.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because the Toronto Skeptics are based in Vancouver.Do n't even get me started on the Unsure People of Montreal .
Splitters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because the Toronto Skeptics are based in Vancouver.Don't even get me started on the Unsure People of Montreal.
Splitters.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30296724</id>
	<title>Not impossible.</title>
	<author>SharpFang</author>
	<datestamp>1259593380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We know blood group is strictly a genetic trait.<br>We also know that many traits of character and predispositions have genetic origin.<br>We know that one gene or set of genes can encode several wildly different and seemingly unconnected traits at the same time.</p><p>The hypothesis that the same gene that encodes blood group is responsible for some psychical traits increasing certain personality type, is not all that far fetched or unlikely.</p><p>OTOH whether it's actually true or not, and in case it is true, does the group-character mapping of ketsueki-gata match the real one, is a totally different matter.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We know blood group is strictly a genetic trait.We also know that many traits of character and predispositions have genetic origin.We know that one gene or set of genes can encode several wildly different and seemingly unconnected traits at the same time.The hypothesis that the same gene that encodes blood group is responsible for some psychical traits increasing certain personality type , is not all that far fetched or unlikely.OTOH whether it 's actually true or not , and in case it is true , does the group-character mapping of ketsueki-gata match the real one , is a totally different matter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We know blood group is strictly a genetic trait.We also know that many traits of character and predispositions have genetic origin.We know that one gene or set of genes can encode several wildly different and seemingly unconnected traits at the same time.The hypothesis that the same gene that encodes blood group is responsible for some psychical traits increasing certain personality type, is not all that far fetched or unlikely.OTOH whether it's actually true or not, and in case it is true, does the group-character mapping of ketsueki-gata match the real one, is a totally different matter.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30294546</id>
	<title>Re:Japanese Science and Pseudo</title>
	<author>searcher88</author>
	<datestamp>1259612460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Game Gold <a href="http://www.aionkina.com/" title="aionkina.com" rel="nofollow"> <strong>aion gold</strong> </a> [aionkina.com]
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<a href="http://www.game4power.com/" title="game4power.com" rel="nofollow"> <strong> buy gold wow </strong> </a> [game4power.com] and <a href="http://www.inaiongold.com/" title="inaiongold.com" rel="nofollow">Aion gold</a> [inaiongold.com] sales are more people, <a href="http://www.game4power.com/" title="game4power.com" rel="nofollow"> <strong> buying wow gold</strong> </a> [game4power.com]many gamers are also very much dislike these people.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Game Gold aion gold [ aionkina.com ] Buy wow gold [ game4power.com ] is a kind of virtual world currency , cheap wow gold [ game4power.com ] World of Warcraft aion gold [ aionshopping.com ] and Aion Gold [ inaiongold.com ] and The Tower of Eternity is a relative engaged buying wow gold [ game4power.com ] buy aion gold [ game4power.com ] in World of Warcraft gold warhammer gold [ vipwarhammergold.com ] buy gold wow [ game4power.com ] and Aion gold [ inaiongold.com ] sales are more people , buying wow gold [ game4power.com ] many gamers are also very much dislike these people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Game Gold  aion gold  [aionkina.com]
 Buy wow gold  [game4power.com] is a kind of virtual world currency,
  cheap wow gold  [game4power.com] World of Warcraft
 aion gold  [aionshopping.com] and  Aion Gold  [inaiongold.com] and The Tower of Eternity is a relative engaged
 buying wow gold   [game4power.com]
  buy aion gold  [game4power.com] in World of Warcraft gold
 warhammer gold  [vipwarhammergold.com]
  buy gold wow   [game4power.com] and Aion gold [inaiongold.com] sales are more people,   buying wow gold  [game4power.com]many gamers are also very much dislike these people.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30292460</id>
	<title>Re:Odd name for the group</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259679840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mod parent up - he's totally right on this one. I know a guy from Toronto who's lived in a rural town West of Ottawa for almost (over?) two years now, and he <i>still</i> won't shut up about how Toronto is better in almost every way. (For those wondering why he even moved, it's because his wife's parents are out there.)</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; --- Mr. DOS</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mod parent up - he 's totally right on this one .
I know a guy from Toronto who 's lived in a rural town West of Ottawa for almost ( over ?
) two years now , and he still wo n't shut up about how Toronto is better in almost every way .
( For those wondering why he even moved , it 's because his wife 's parents are out there .
)       --- Mr. DOS</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mod parent up - he's totally right on this one.
I know a guy from Toronto who's lived in a rural town West of Ottawa for almost (over?
) two years now, and he still won't shut up about how Toronto is better in almost every way.
(For those wondering why he even moved, it's because his wife's parents are out there.
)
      --- Mr. DOS</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30296480</id>
	<title>Re:Donor restrictions</title>
	<author>bkr1\_2k</author>
	<datestamp>1259591940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The American Red Cross seems to have taken a cue from them then.  I can't give blood because I slept with someone born in Africa after 1980, and because I have tattoos, and because I have traveled overseas within the last 10 years to countries that "aren't safe".  Despite the fact that I'm a universal donor and have had health screenings every year for the last 20 years that always include blood screening.  Stupid, really.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The American Red Cross seems to have taken a cue from them then .
I ca n't give blood because I slept with someone born in Africa after 1980 , and because I have tattoos , and because I have traveled overseas within the last 10 years to countries that " are n't safe " .
Despite the fact that I 'm a universal donor and have had health screenings every year for the last 20 years that always include blood screening .
Stupid , really .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The American Red Cross seems to have taken a cue from them then.
I can't give blood because I slept with someone born in Africa after 1980, and because I have tattoos, and because I have traveled overseas within the last 10 years to countries that "aren't safe".
Despite the fact that I'm a universal donor and have had health screenings every year for the last 20 years that always include blood screening.
Stupid, really.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30293374</id>
	<title>Re:quick silence these heretics!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259687940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Can someone remind me why ANYONE needs to do something about a private non-profit expressing views that haven't been vetted via the scientific method?</i></p><p>Trying to convince others of your point of view is no infringement on their liberties, and, if the matter is important, then you are doing them and society at large good by taking up the argument.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can someone remind me why ANYONE needs to do something about a private non-profit expressing views that have n't been vetted via the scientific method ? Trying to convince others of your point of view is no infringement on their liberties , and , if the matter is important , then you are doing them and society at large good by taking up the argument .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can someone remind me why ANYONE needs to do something about a private non-profit expressing views that haven't been vetted via the scientific method?Trying to convince others of your point of view is no infringement on their liberties, and, if the matter is important, then you are doing them and society at large good by taking up the argument.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30299488</id>
	<title>Re:Odd name for the group</title>
	<author>xrayspx</author>
	<datestamp>1259606640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>(<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109370/quotes" title="imdb.com">Canadian Bacon</a> [imdb.com] reference).
<br> <br>
Ask a group of "Average Americans" the question "What is the capital of Canada" and probably 30\% of them at least will say "Toronto".</htmltext>
<tokenext>( Canadian Bacon [ imdb.com ] reference ) .
Ask a group of " Average Americans " the question " What is the capital of Canada " and probably 30 \ % of them at least will say " Toronto " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(Canadian Bacon [imdb.com] reference).
Ask a group of "Average Americans" the question "What is the capital of Canada" and probably 30\% of them at least will say "Toronto".</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30292310</id>
	<title>Re:Barking up the wrong tree</title>
	<author>ceoyoyo</author>
	<datestamp>1259678700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They also mostly steer clear of the dangerous stuff.  The personality types are basically a horoscope and all they do is suggest two of the types might benefit from a "healthy diet" (no duh), the third might enjoy vegetarianism, and the fourth might be a meat eater.</p><p>It's stupid, but not like the summary suggests.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They also mostly steer clear of the dangerous stuff .
The personality types are basically a horoscope and all they do is suggest two of the types might benefit from a " healthy diet " ( no duh ) , the third might enjoy vegetarianism , and the fourth might be a meat eater.It 's stupid , but not like the summary suggests .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They also mostly steer clear of the dangerous stuff.
The personality types are basically a horoscope and all they do is suggest two of the types might benefit from a "healthy diet" (no duh), the third might enjoy vegetarianism, and the fourth might be a meat eater.It's stupid, but not like the summary suggests.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30293472</id>
	<title>Over reaction</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259688960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I had a quick look at the site, and it seemed to me that the info was being presented in a whimsical way.  Perhaps they are just trying to take a bit of the seriousness out of a volunteer donor program, where the usual pitches are about how blood donations are urgently needed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had a quick look at the site , and it seemed to me that the info was being presented in a whimsical way .
Perhaps they are just trying to take a bit of the seriousness out of a volunteer donor program , where the usual pitches are about how blood donations are urgently needed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had a quick look at the site, and it seemed to me that the info was being presented in a whimsical way.
Perhaps they are just trying to take a bit of the seriousness out of a volunteer donor program, where the usual pitches are about how blood donations are urgently needed.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30291548</id>
	<title>Re:Nonsense peddlers often sneak in...</title>
	<author>iamacat</author>
	<datestamp>1259674320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ok, explain to us why you think this is NOT harmless. It's not like they are saying that HIV doesn't cause AIDS and telling infected people to donate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok , explain to us why you think this is NOT harmless .
It 's not like they are saying that HIV does n't cause AIDS and telling infected people to donate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok, explain to us why you think this is NOT harmless.
It's not like they are saying that HIV doesn't cause AIDS and telling infected people to donate.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30295794</id>
	<title>Re:Donor restrictions</title>
	<author>GNU(slash)Nickname</author>
	<datestamp>1259585520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's worse than that. The actual question is "Male donors: Have you had sex with a man, even one time since 1977?"

</p><p>So, interpreted in the strictly non-Clintonian way, getting a blowjob once from a guy 30 years ago in a bit of college experimentation should disqualify someone from giving  blood?  What if it was a 2 guy 1 girl threesome?  (No guy-guy contact, just sharing a girl.)  Is that still "sex with a man"?

</p><p>Someday, just for fun, I'm going to ask the screener to clarify that question.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)

</p><p>The problem is that that question is asked by a person, you don't just check the box. The purpose being that if the screener thinks you're lying, they take your blood anyway but then flag it as suspect and it never gets used. I'm sure a lot of perfectly good blood gets wasted from people who's embarrassment at being asked that question get misinterpreted as being untruthful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's worse than that .
The actual question is " Male donors : Have you had sex with a man , even one time since 1977 ?
" So , interpreted in the strictly non-Clintonian way , getting a blowjob once from a guy 30 years ago in a bit of college experimentation should disqualify someone from giving blood ?
What if it was a 2 guy 1 girl threesome ?
( No guy-guy contact , just sharing a girl .
) Is that still " sex with a man " ?
Someday , just for fun , I 'm going to ask the screener to clarify that question .
: ) The problem is that that question is asked by a person , you do n't just check the box .
The purpose being that if the screener thinks you 're lying , they take your blood anyway but then flag it as suspect and it never gets used .
I 'm sure a lot of perfectly good blood gets wasted from people who 's embarrassment at being asked that question get misinterpreted as being untruthful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's worse than that.
The actual question is "Male donors: Have you had sex with a man, even one time since 1977?
"

So, interpreted in the strictly non-Clintonian way, getting a blowjob once from a guy 30 years ago in a bit of college experimentation should disqualify someone from giving  blood?
What if it was a 2 guy 1 girl threesome?
(No guy-guy contact, just sharing a girl.
)  Is that still "sex with a man"?
Someday, just for fun, I'm going to ask the screener to clarify that question.
:)

The problem is that that question is asked by a person, you don't just check the box.
The purpose being that if the screener thinks you're lying, they take your blood anyway but then flag it as suspect and it never gets used.
I'm sure a lot of perfectly good blood gets wasted from people who's embarrassment at being asked that question get misinterpreted as being untruthful.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_1752207.30294400</id>
	<title>Re:Japanese Science and Pseudo</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259697300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You paint this wonderfully perverse straw man of "skeptic," and then bash it down into nothingness. Congratulations. But a skeptic isn't someone who "assume[s] one is correct and someone else wrong", that's merely the straw man you've set up.</p><p>Further, the skeptic isn't skeptical for scientists' sake - they're skeptical for non-scientists' sake. You don't need them, that's great. But there are a great many people out there who believe in nonsense like chiropractic, homeopathy and the like, and that shit can be dangerous, and people ought to be informed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You paint this wonderfully perverse straw man of " skeptic , " and then bash it down into nothingness .
Congratulations. But a skeptic is n't someone who " assume [ s ] one is correct and someone else wrong " , that 's merely the straw man you 've set up.Further , the skeptic is n't skeptical for scientists ' sake - they 're skeptical for non-scientists ' sake .
You do n't need them , that 's great .
But there are a great many people out there who believe in nonsense like chiropractic , homeopathy and the like , and that shit can be dangerous , and people ought to be informed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You paint this wonderfully perverse straw man of "skeptic," and then bash it down into nothingness.
Congratulations. But a skeptic isn't someone who "assume[s] one is correct and someone else wrong", that's merely the straw man you've set up.Further, the skeptic isn't skeptical for scientists' sake - they're skeptical for non-scientists' sake.
You don't need them, that's great.
But there are a great many people out there who believe in nonsense like chiropractic, homeopathy and the like, and that shit can be dangerous, and people ought to be informed.</sentencetext>
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