<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_30_2039239</id>
	<title>Google Patent Reveals New Data Center Innovations</title>
	<author>ScuttleMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1259576940000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>miller60 writes <i>"'Google is seeking to patent a system that provides <a href="http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/11/30/google-patent-reveals-data-center-innovations/">precision cooling inside racks of servers</a>, automatically adjusting to temperature changes while reducing the energy required to run chillers.' The cooling design uses an adjustable piping system featuring 'air wands' that provide small amounts of cold air to components within a server tray. The cooling design, which could help Google reduce the power bill for its servers, reinforces Google's focus on data center innovation as a competitive advantage. Check out the <a href="http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&amp;Sect2=HITOFF&amp;d=PG01&amp;p=1&amp;u=\%2Fnetahtml\%2FPTO\%2Fsrchnum.html&amp;r=1&amp;f=G&amp;l=50&amp;s1=\%2220080204999\%22.PGNR.&amp;OS=DN/20080204999&amp;RS=DN/20080204999">patent application</a> and a <a href="http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/a-closer-look-at-googles-new-cooling-design/">diagram</a> of the system."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>miller60 writes " 'Google is seeking to patent a system that provides precision cooling inside racks of servers , automatically adjusting to temperature changes while reducing the energy required to run chillers .
' The cooling design uses an adjustable piping system featuring 'air wands ' that provide small amounts of cold air to components within a server tray .
The cooling design , which could help Google reduce the power bill for its servers , reinforces Google 's focus on data center innovation as a competitive advantage .
Check out the patent application and a diagram of the system .
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<sentencetext>miller60 writes "'Google is seeking to patent a system that provides precision cooling inside racks of servers, automatically adjusting to temperature changes while reducing the energy required to run chillers.
' The cooling design uses an adjustable piping system featuring 'air wands' that provide small amounts of cold air to components within a server tray.
The cooling design, which could help Google reduce the power bill for its servers, reinforces Google's focus on data center innovation as a competitive advantage.
Check out the patent application and a diagram of the system.
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</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276602</id>
	<title>Re:Does this pass the "Evil" smell test?</title>
	<author>DieselPup</author>
	<datestamp>1259582640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sure, if a company PAYS people to think of things like this, that's called an INVESTMENT in R&amp;D (which is by nature, speculative and risky -- most of the time, a LOSING venture).  So when the company's R&amp;D comes up with one idea that is commercially viable, why shouldn't they get some return on the money they put at risk?  Oh, and if they're not allowed to get any return to offset their investment (in losers as well as winners), what happens to the R&amp;D cash flow?  Unless you're a noncommercial government-funded program, it generally dries up.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure , if a company PAYS people to think of things like this , that 's called an INVESTMENT in R&amp;D ( which is by nature , speculative and risky -- most of the time , a LOSING venture ) .
So when the company 's R&amp;D comes up with one idea that is commercially viable , why should n't they get some return on the money they put at risk ?
Oh , and if they 're not allowed to get any return to offset their investment ( in losers as well as winners ) , what happens to the R&amp;D cash flow ?
Unless you 're a noncommercial government-funded program , it generally dries up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure, if a company PAYS people to think of things like this, that's called an INVESTMENT in R&amp;D (which is by nature, speculative and risky -- most of the time, a LOSING venture).
So when the company's R&amp;D comes up with one idea that is commercially viable, why shouldn't they get some return on the money they put at risk?
Oh, and if they're not allowed to get any return to offset their investment (in losers as well as winners), what happens to the R&amp;D cash flow?
Unless you're a noncommercial government-funded program, it generally dries up.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276286</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276368</id>
	<title>Re:No matter how innovative</title>
	<author>Zocalo</author>
	<datestamp>1259581740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't be silly, this is precisely how patents were originally meant to be used; to allow the inventor of a truly innovative technology to get some reward for their effort, so if you want to use the technology then you need to license it from the inventor, that's all.  .  And, yes, it *is* innovative or someone else would have already come up with the idea and patented it, the green data centre market isn't exactly short or a little competition at the moment with so many organisations competing for bragging rights over the lowest PUE ratings.<br> <br>

Look on the bright side, since this is Google with their mantra of "Do no evil" that we're talking about, they can hardly charge an extortionate amount for the license fee given what it might entail for the environment if they want to carry on being able to claim that with any degree of sincerity.  Regardless of what they charge, you can almost guarantee it would be a lot less than what some vendors *cough* Sun *cough* have historically charged for their more bespoke cabinets.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't be silly , this is precisely how patents were originally meant to be used ; to allow the inventor of a truly innovative technology to get some reward for their effort , so if you want to use the technology then you need to license it from the inventor , that 's all .
. And , yes , it * is * innovative or someone else would have already come up with the idea and patented it , the green data centre market is n't exactly short or a little competition at the moment with so many organisations competing for bragging rights over the lowest PUE ratings .
Look on the bright side , since this is Google with their mantra of " Do no evil " that we 're talking about , they can hardly charge an extortionate amount for the license fee given what it might entail for the environment if they want to carry on being able to claim that with any degree of sincerity .
Regardless of what they charge , you can almost guarantee it would be a lot less than what some vendors * cough * Sun * cough * have historically charged for their more bespoke cabinets .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't be silly, this is precisely how patents were originally meant to be used; to allow the inventor of a truly innovative technology to get some reward for their effort, so if you want to use the technology then you need to license it from the inventor, that's all.
.  And, yes, it *is* innovative or someone else would have already come up with the idea and patented it, the green data centre market isn't exactly short or a little competition at the moment with so many organisations competing for bragging rights over the lowest PUE ratings.
Look on the bright side, since this is Google with their mantra of "Do no evil" that we're talking about, they can hardly charge an extortionate amount for the license fee given what it might entail for the environment if they want to carry on being able to claim that with any degree of sincerity.
Regardless of what they charge, you can almost guarantee it would be a lot less than what some vendors *cough* Sun *cough* have historically charged for their more bespoke cabinets.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276168</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276518</id>
	<title>Re:Does this pass the "Evil" smell test?</title>
	<author>BradleyUffner</author>
	<datestamp>1259582280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The patent doesnt stop some other company from building and using a device exactly like this internally for thier own use.  It only stops them from taking the idea and selling a product based on it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The patent doesnt stop some other company from building and using a device exactly like this internally for thier own use .
It only stops them from taking the idea and selling a product based on it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The patent doesnt stop some other company from building and using a device exactly like this internally for thier own use.
It only stops them from taking the idea and selling a product based on it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276286</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30277226</id>
	<title>Re:No matter how innovative</title>
	<author>icebraining</author>
	<datestamp>1259585460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We don't even know if they're going to charge for it, maybe they just want to cover they asses from patent trolls. I know I would.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We do n't even know if they 're going to charge for it , maybe they just want to cover they asses from patent trolls .
I know I would .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We don't even know if they're going to charge for it, maybe they just want to cover they asses from patent trolls.
I know I would.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276368</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276958</id>
	<title>Re:Does this pass the "Evil" smell test?</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1259584200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If they don't patent it, someone else will. If they allow everbody to use the patent, then it is still not evil, even if they charge a nominal fee to do so.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If they do n't patent it , someone else will .
If they allow everbody to use the patent , then it is still not evil , even if they charge a nominal fee to do so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they don't patent it, someone else will.
If they allow everbody to use the patent, then it is still not evil, even if they charge a nominal fee to do so.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276286</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30277074</id>
	<title>Re:Soon</title>
	<author>Interoperable</author>
	<datestamp>1259584680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well...the Natalie Portman chip is hot...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well...the Natalie Portman chip is hot.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well...the Natalie Portman chip is hot...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276306</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276784</id>
	<title>Sweet.. sweet...</title>
	<author>ZeroExistenZ</author>
	<datestamp>1259583420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>...irony.<blockquote><div><p>http://www.datacenterknowledge.com - Error establishing a database connection</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...irony.http : //www.datacenterknowledge.com - Error establishing a database connection</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...irony.http://www.datacenterknowledge.com - Error establishing a database connection
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30283826</id>
	<title>Re:Soon</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259685720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Processor on a stick of ram?? There's more innovation in their servers than just cooling!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Processor on a stick of ram ? ?
There 's more innovation in their servers than just cooling !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Processor on a stick of ram??
There's more innovation in their servers than just cooling!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276306</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276054</id>
	<title>1st!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259580660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>for the krapture!!!! - krapper</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>for the krapture ! ! ! !
- krapper</tokentext>
<sentencetext>for the krapture!!!!
- krapper</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30288728</id>
	<title>Power Supplies</title>
	<author>Tiger4</author>
	<datestamp>1259661360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>More interesting to me are the power supply designs.  Explicitly exposing the 12v and 5v busses, so a single external one can power an entire rack.  Saves a lot of energy by eliminating inverter/rectifier pairs at the data center UPS and power supply.

If ordinary commercial power supplies and office/home UPSs had this, we would all benefit tremendously.</htmltext>
<tokenext>More interesting to me are the power supply designs .
Explicitly exposing the 12v and 5v busses , so a single external one can power an entire rack .
Saves a lot of energy by eliminating inverter/rectifier pairs at the data center UPS and power supply .
If ordinary commercial power supplies and office/home UPSs had this , we would all benefit tremendously .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More interesting to me are the power supply designs.
Explicitly exposing the 12v and 5v busses, so a single external one can power an entire rack.
Saves a lot of energy by eliminating inverter/rectifier pairs at the data center UPS and power supply.
If ordinary commercial power supplies and office/home UPSs had this, we would all benefit tremendously.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30286016</id>
	<title>Directed cooling.</title>
	<author>Animats</author>
	<datestamp>1259694900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Military avionics has had very directed cooling for years.  Cool air is a scarce resource in field systems.  Here's an <a href="http://www.vmecritical.com/pdfs/Mercury.Aug04.pdf" title="vmecritical.com">engineered cooling system</a> [vmecritical.com] for VME boards. Military PC boards tend to have covers over the components.  ("When someone is fixing your system, it's too hot, too cold, too dusty, or too wet, and someone may be shooting at them." - a reminder given military hardware designers.)  Those covers can be designed to direct airflow. The covers then plug into an air plenum which feeds air into the covers.
</p><p>
The military designs go much further than civilian ones do.  They'll use heavier copper on boards to improve conduction, and mounting rails designed to dissipate heat from the board into the chassis frame.  The whole thing is designed so that somebody just slams the module into the rack and turns the locking handle without worrying about this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Military avionics has had very directed cooling for years .
Cool air is a scarce resource in field systems .
Here 's an engineered cooling system [ vmecritical.com ] for VME boards .
Military PC boards tend to have covers over the components .
( " When someone is fixing your system , it 's too hot , too cold , too dusty , or too wet , and someone may be shooting at them .
" - a reminder given military hardware designers .
) Those covers can be designed to direct airflow .
The covers then plug into an air plenum which feeds air into the covers .
The military designs go much further than civilian ones do .
They 'll use heavier copper on boards to improve conduction , and mounting rails designed to dissipate heat from the board into the chassis frame .
The whole thing is designed so that somebody just slams the module into the rack and turns the locking handle without worrying about this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Military avionics has had very directed cooling for years.
Cool air is a scarce resource in field systems.
Here's an engineered cooling system [vmecritical.com] for VME boards.
Military PC boards tend to have covers over the components.
("When someone is fixing your system, it's too hot, too cold, too dusty, or too wet, and someone may be shooting at them.
" - a reminder given military hardware designers.
)  Those covers can be designed to direct airflow.
The covers then plug into an air plenum which feeds air into the covers.
The military designs go much further than civilian ones do.
They'll use heavier copper on boards to improve conduction, and mounting rails designed to dissipate heat from the board into the chassis frame.
The whole thing is designed so that somebody just slams the module into the rack and turns the locking handle without worrying about this.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276684</id>
	<title>Re:Does this pass the "Evil" smell test?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259583060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google probably won't even use it, or enforce it. (just as you mentioned, it seems like a pretty backwards idea, even for Google)</p><p>I'd certainly love to think of Google as making patents for the sake of others so trolls don't abuse them, but we can never really know what goes on behind those golden doors to their internet inside a building.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google probably wo n't even use it , or enforce it .
( just as you mentioned , it seems like a pretty backwards idea , even for Google ) I 'd certainly love to think of Google as making patents for the sake of others so trolls do n't abuse them , but we can never really know what goes on behind those golden doors to their internet inside a building .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google probably won't even use it, or enforce it.
(just as you mentioned, it seems like a pretty backwards idea, even for Google)I'd certainly love to think of Google as making patents for the sake of others so trolls don't abuse them, but we can never really know what goes on behind those golden doors to their internet inside a building.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30277136</id>
	<title>Re:No matter how innovative</title>
	<author>Dishevel</author>
	<datestamp>1259584980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Patents are not stupid. Patents are great. Obvious patents given for large amounts of time are stupid.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Patents are not stupid .
Patents are great .
Obvious patents given for large amounts of time are stupid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Patents are not stupid.
Patents are great.
Obvious patents given for large amounts of time are stupid.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276168</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276586</id>
	<title>Re:Does this pass the "Evil" smell test?</title>
	<author>ArbitraryDescriptor</author>
	<datestamp>1259582580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Hmmm... Is creating patents for things like this "evil"?  Seeking to prevent others from saving energy (unless they pay a toll) is not good for this planet, and I'm not sure if passes for "good".</p></div><p>A patent merely grants you control over the invention's licensing, it is possible to wield a patent in an open manner; or not.  We'll have to see how they play it.  <br> <br>However, unlike some of the more obvious software patents floating around; this sounds like a genuinely clever idea.  If they choose to sit on it to stay ahead of their competition; I don't know that it's fair to say they're "preventing" anyone from saving energy.  It's not like anyone would have used this method had they not invented it; and they are somehow depriving the public of it.  I would file it under "indifferent," not sharing isn't nice, but it's a far cry from evil.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmmm... Is creating patents for things like this " evil " ?
Seeking to prevent others from saving energy ( unless they pay a toll ) is not good for this planet , and I 'm not sure if passes for " good " .A patent merely grants you control over the invention 's licensing , it is possible to wield a patent in an open manner ; or not .
We 'll have to see how they play it .
However , unlike some of the more obvious software patents floating around ; this sounds like a genuinely clever idea .
If they choose to sit on it to stay ahead of their competition ; I do n't know that it 's fair to say they 're " preventing " anyone from saving energy .
It 's not like anyone would have used this method had they not invented it ; and they are somehow depriving the public of it .
I would file it under " indifferent , " not sharing is n't nice , but it 's a far cry from evil .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmmm... Is creating patents for things like this "evil"?
Seeking to prevent others from saving energy (unless they pay a toll) is not good for this planet, and I'm not sure if passes for "good".A patent merely grants you control over the invention's licensing, it is possible to wield a patent in an open manner; or not.
We'll have to see how they play it.
However, unlike some of the more obvious software patents floating around; this sounds like a genuinely clever idea.
If they choose to sit on it to stay ahead of their competition; I don't know that it's fair to say they're "preventing" anyone from saving energy.
It's not like anyone would have used this method had they not invented it; and they are somehow depriving the public of it.
I would file it under "indifferent," not sharing isn't nice, but it's a far cry from evil.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276286</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30277112</id>
	<title>Not a Patent</title>
	<author>VernoWhitney</author>
	<datestamp>1259584860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously - is it too hard to note that it's only a Patent <b> <i>Application</i></b>  at this point?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously - is it too hard to note that it 's only a Patent Application at this point ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously - is it too hard to note that it's only a Patent  Application  at this point?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276562</id>
	<title>yay Slashdotted</title>
	<author>muphin</author>
	<datestamp>1259582460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>only 7 comments in and <a href="http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/" title="datacenterknowledge.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/</a> [datacenterknowledge.com] has been slashdotted<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</htmltext>
<tokenext>only 7 comments in and http : //www.datacenterknowledge.com/ [ datacenterknowledge.com ] has been slashdotted : (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>only 7 comments in and http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/ [datacenterknowledge.com] has been slashdotted :(</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276286</id>
	<title>Does this pass the "Evil" smell test?</title>
	<author>MasterOfGoingFaster</author>
	<datestamp>1259581500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmmm... Is creating patents for things like this "evil"?  Seeking to prevent others from saving energy (unless they pay a toll) is not good for this planet, and I'm not sure if passes for "good".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmmm... Is creating patents for things like this " evil " ?
Seeking to prevent others from saving energy ( unless they pay a toll ) is not good for this planet , and I 'm not sure if passes for " good " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmmm... Is creating patents for things like this "evil"?
Seeking to prevent others from saving energy (unless they pay a toll) is not good for this planet, and I'm not sure if passes for "good".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276576</id>
	<title>At least we know the DB servers are cool</title>
	<author>pintpusher</author>
	<datestamp>1259582520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They can cross that off the list and carry on with other solutions to the</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Error establishing a database connection</p></div><p>problem...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They can cross that off the list and carry on with other solutions to theError establishing a database connectionproblem.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They can cross that off the list and carry on with other solutions to theError establishing a database connectionproblem...
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276306</id>
	<title>Soon</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259581620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There have been 17000 youtube searches for Natalie Portman naked in the last 450 milliseconds. We need a burst of cold air on rack 1000001, processor 304 on the second chip on the third stick of RAM.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There have been 17000 youtube searches for Natalie Portman naked in the last 450 milliseconds .
We need a burst of cold air on rack 1000001 , processor 304 on the second chip on the third stick of RAM .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There have been 17000 youtube searches for Natalie Portman naked in the last 450 milliseconds.
We need a burst of cold air on rack 1000001, processor 304 on the second chip on the third stick of RAM.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276816</id>
	<title>Error establishing a database connection</title>
	<author>matty619</author>
	<datestamp>1259583540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't tell me "Datacenter Knowledge" got slashdotted.....not good for teh community.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't tell me " Datacenter Knowledge " got slashdotted.....not good for teh community .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't tell me "Datacenter Knowledge" got slashdotted.....not good for teh community.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30278136</id>
	<title>Big whoop.</title>
	<author>HEbGb</author>
	<datestamp>1259591460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First, having a patent means basically nothing. It doesn't mean it works, that it's practical, or that it will be used by anyone.</p><p>Second, this type of patent is going to be very difficult, if not impossible, to enforce.  Prior art aside, how many data centers do you know that are open to public inspection?  They can't just go buy a widget to compare them.</p><p>Seems like little more than a trophy (framed patent) for someone's office wall.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First , having a patent means basically nothing .
It does n't mean it works , that it 's practical , or that it will be used by anyone.Second , this type of patent is going to be very difficult , if not impossible , to enforce .
Prior art aside , how many data centers do you know that are open to public inspection ?
They ca n't just go buy a widget to compare them.Seems like little more than a trophy ( framed patent ) for someone 's office wall .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First, having a patent means basically nothing.
It doesn't mean it works, that it's practical, or that it will be used by anyone.Second, this type of patent is going to be very difficult, if not impossible, to enforce.
Prior art aside, how many data centers do you know that are open to public inspection?
They can't just go buy a widget to compare them.Seems like little more than a trophy (framed patent) for someone's office wall.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276350</id>
	<title>Re:No matter how innovative</title>
	<author>dave562</author>
	<datestamp>1259581680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>YOU CAN'T HAVE IT.</i>...</p><p>Until after the patent expires.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>YOU CA N'T HAVE IT....Until after the patent expires .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>YOU CAN'T HAVE IT....Until after the patent expires.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276168</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276168</id>
	<title>No matter how innovative</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259581020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is why patents are stupid. An innovative new way to save the planet, and, guess what, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is why patents are stupid .
An innovative new way to save the planet , and , guess what , YOU CA N'T HAVE IT .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is why patents are stupid.
An innovative new way to save the planet, and, guess what, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30278576</id>
	<title>Re:Same heat flow</title>
	<author>Mr. Suck</author>
	<datestamp>1259595720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are right - you need to remove exactly as much heat as the equipment is generating. The energy savings with this scheme is due to the fact efficiency of chillers is lowest when asked to produce coldest output. Traditional data centers keep the hot parts cold by keeping everything very cold. Efficiency is improved if you can run your chiller at a higher output temperature and compensate for the reduced effectiveness of the warmer air by directing it where it is most needed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are right - you need to remove exactly as much heat as the equipment is generating .
The energy savings with this scheme is due to the fact efficiency of chillers is lowest when asked to produce coldest output .
Traditional data centers keep the hot parts cold by keeping everything very cold .
Efficiency is improved if you can run your chiller at a higher output temperature and compensate for the reduced effectiveness of the warmer air by directing it where it is most needed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are right - you need to remove exactly as much heat as the equipment is generating.
The energy savings with this scheme is due to the fact efficiency of chillers is lowest when asked to produce coldest output.
Traditional data centers keep the hot parts cold by keeping everything very cold.
Efficiency is improved if you can run your chiller at a higher output temperature and compensate for the reduced effectiveness of the warmer air by directing it where it is most needed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30277720</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276594</id>
	<title>Obvious patent</title>
	<author>13bPower</author>
	<datestamp>1259582640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Going off the summary...</p><p>I invented that! Money please!</p><p>For real though, if people listened to me once in a while they would be rich. How do I cut out the middle man.....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Going off the summary...I invented that !
Money please ! For real though , if people listened to me once in a while they would be rich .
How do I cut out the middle man.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Going off the summary...I invented that!
Money please!For real though, if people listened to me once in a while they would be rich.
How do I cut out the middle man.....</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276630</id>
	<title>Why?</title>
	<author>WindBourne</author>
	<datestamp>1259582820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is EXACTLY what patents were developed for. A mechanical system like this has a FAIRLY LIMITED LIFETIME (unlike copyrights).<br> <br>As it is, I think that the approach that they are taking is actually the wrong way. OTH, It is better than what is currently done. Others like MS could license it. More likely MS will introduce a similar patent and it will go through due to how stupid the US patent office has become.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is EXACTLY what patents were developed for .
A mechanical system like this has a FAIRLY LIMITED LIFETIME ( unlike copyrights ) .
As it is , I think that the approach that they are taking is actually the wrong way .
OTH , It is better than what is currently done .
Others like MS could license it .
More likely MS will introduce a similar patent and it will go through due to how stupid the US patent office has become .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is EXACTLY what patents were developed for.
A mechanical system like this has a FAIRLY LIMITED LIFETIME (unlike copyrights).
As it is, I think that the approach that they are taking is actually the wrong way.
OTH, It is better than what is currently done.
Others like MS could license it.
More likely MS will introduce a similar patent and it will go through due to how stupid the US patent office has become.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30278696</id>
	<title>Re:No matter how innovative</title>
	<author>dimeglio</author>
	<datestamp>1259596620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Patents are not stupid. They are there for anyone to use. If you have great ideas for an invention, why not patent them? Believe it or not, the nuclear power aircraft patent belongs to Dick Feynman. Yeah but you do gotta love paperwork. Invent a better way to submit patent submission and patent that! We'll share the billions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Patents are not stupid .
They are there for anyone to use .
If you have great ideas for an invention , why not patent them ?
Believe it or not , the nuclear power aircraft patent belongs to Dick Feynman .
Yeah but you do got ta love paperwork .
Invent a better way to submit patent submission and patent that !
We 'll share the billions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Patents are not stupid.
They are there for anyone to use.
If you have great ideas for an invention, why not patent them?
Believe it or not, the nuclear power aircraft patent belongs to Dick Feynman.
Yeah but you do gotta love paperwork.
Invent a better way to submit patent submission and patent that!
We'll share the billions.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30279520</id>
	<title>Re:Same heat flow</title>
	<author>rtb61</author>
	<datestamp>1259604060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> The cooling design for data centres needs to shift from an office cooling design to an industrial design. Once you get to that size data units should be shifted to auto-pick racks so you can run the whole facility beyond human comfort levels in the mid 30s centigrade. That way you only pre-condition fresh air and then exhaust rather than recycle. This allows you to adjust your cooling air from 100\% fresh, to ground water cooling, to evaporative to refrigerated(ammonia) as external ambient conditions and heat sink capacity dictate. </p><p> You basically use to auto pick system to pick bad units from the rack, replace it with a functioning unit and return the defective unit to the service area via an airlock, where tech personal operating in the human comfort zone low 20s versus the server farm's mid 30s. So smart server farm re-design followed by an adjustable fully variable air 'conditioning' system which supplies air within the temperature, velocity and humidity ranges required to keep the hardware operating at near maximum safe operating temperatures.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The cooling design for data centres needs to shift from an office cooling design to an industrial design .
Once you get to that size data units should be shifted to auto-pick racks so you can run the whole facility beyond human comfort levels in the mid 30s centigrade .
That way you only pre-condition fresh air and then exhaust rather than recycle .
This allows you to adjust your cooling air from 100 \ % fresh , to ground water cooling , to evaporative to refrigerated ( ammonia ) as external ambient conditions and heat sink capacity dictate .
You basically use to auto pick system to pick bad units from the rack , replace it with a functioning unit and return the defective unit to the service area via an airlock , where tech personal operating in the human comfort zone low 20s versus the server farm 's mid 30s .
So smart server farm re-design followed by an adjustable fully variable air 'conditioning ' system which supplies air within the temperature , velocity and humidity ranges required to keep the hardware operating at near maximum safe operating temperatures .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> The cooling design for data centres needs to shift from an office cooling design to an industrial design.
Once you get to that size data units should be shifted to auto-pick racks so you can run the whole facility beyond human comfort levels in the mid 30s centigrade.
That way you only pre-condition fresh air and then exhaust rather than recycle.
This allows you to adjust your cooling air from 100\% fresh, to ground water cooling, to evaporative to refrigerated(ammonia) as external ambient conditions and heat sink capacity dictate.
You basically use to auto pick system to pick bad units from the rack, replace it with a functioning unit and return the defective unit to the service area via an airlock, where tech personal operating in the human comfort zone low 20s versus the server farm's mid 30s.
So smart server farm re-design followed by an adjustable fully variable air 'conditioning' system which supplies air within the temperature, velocity and humidity ranges required to keep the hardware operating at near maximum safe operating temperatures.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30278576</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30284568</id>
	<title>Re:No matter how innovative</title>
	<author>konohitowa</author>
	<datestamp>1259688900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What? This patent keeps the planet from from being destroyed? I need to read those claims more carefully. Did I miss a big deflector shield or something? Although, if  SciFi/SyFy Channel Original Movies have taught me anything, it's that the majority of planetary threats can be averted by nukes, and I know I didn't see any references to nukes in there.</p><p>Oh.... you meant an innovative way to save energy and possibly the humans, or at least their current way of life. Never mind. That's a shame though. I was starting to envision a franchise of "Armagoogleddon", "Mothra vs Google", etc. movies. Sigh.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What ?
This patent keeps the planet from from being destroyed ?
I need to read those claims more carefully .
Did I miss a big deflector shield or something ?
Although , if SciFi/SyFy Channel Original Movies have taught me anything , it 's that the majority of planetary threats can be averted by nukes , and I know I did n't see any references to nukes in there.Oh.... you meant an innovative way to save energy and possibly the humans , or at least their current way of life .
Never mind .
That 's a shame though .
I was starting to envision a franchise of " Armagoogleddon " , " Mothra vs Google " , etc .
movies. Sigh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What?
This patent keeps the planet from from being destroyed?
I need to read those claims more carefully.
Did I miss a big deflector shield or something?
Although, if  SciFi/SyFy Channel Original Movies have taught me anything, it's that the majority of planetary threats can be averted by nukes, and I know I didn't see any references to nukes in there.Oh.... you meant an innovative way to save energy and possibly the humans, or at least their current way of life.
Never mind.
That's a shame though.
I was starting to envision a franchise of "Armagoogleddon", "Mothra vs Google", etc.
movies. Sigh.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30277720</id>
	<title>Same heat flow</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259588340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sorry, but they still need to remove the exact same amount of waste heat, while the cost of blowing air around is minimal, so I fail to see how this will save much if anything.  It may even use slightly more energy since the smaller pipes will have more turbulence and may require more blower power.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , but they still need to remove the exact same amount of waste heat , while the cost of blowing air around is minimal , so I fail to see how this will save much if anything .
It may even use slightly more energy since the smaller pipes will have more turbulence and may require more blower power .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, but they still need to remove the exact same amount of waste heat, while the cost of blowing air around is minimal, so I fail to see how this will save much if anything.
It may even use slightly more energy since the smaller pipes will have more turbulence and may require more blower power.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276812</id>
	<title>Re:Does this pass the "Evil" smell test?</title>
	<author>BradleyUffner</author>
	<datestamp>1259583540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>apparently I was wrong about this.  I will now commit rutual seppuku to prevent the savage flaming i am no doubt abount to receive.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>apparently I was wrong about this .
I will now commit rutual seppuku to prevent the savage flaming i am no doubt abount to receive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>apparently I was wrong about this.
I will now commit rutual seppuku to prevent the savage flaming i am no doubt abount to receive.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276726</id>
	<title>Re:Does this pass the "Evil" smell test?</title>
	<author>ascari</author>
	<datestamp>1259583180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think it does pass the "evil" test with flying colors. In x years it becomes free for anyone to use, and besides who is to say that Google won't license this stuff for cheap (or free) down the road? It's not like they're charging an arm + leg for any of their other technologies as it is, and they're certainly not among the worst offenders when it comes to "patent trolling". I think it's a good faith green move on their part, and they're being sensible patenting it before somebody (possibly less scrupulous) does.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it does pass the " evil " test with flying colors .
In x years it becomes free for anyone to use , and besides who is to say that Google wo n't license this stuff for cheap ( or free ) down the road ?
It 's not like they 're charging an arm + leg for any of their other technologies as it is , and they 're certainly not among the worst offenders when it comes to " patent trolling " .
I think it 's a good faith green move on their part , and they 're being sensible patenting it before somebody ( possibly less scrupulous ) does .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it does pass the "evil" test with flying colors.
In x years it becomes free for anyone to use, and besides who is to say that Google won't license this stuff for cheap (or free) down the road?
It's not like they're charging an arm + leg for any of their other technologies as it is, and they're certainly not among the worst offenders when it comes to "patent trolling".
I think it's a good faith green move on their part, and they're being sensible patenting it before somebody (possibly less scrupulous) does.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_2039239.30276670</id>
	<title>Patenting the obvious (again)</title>
	<author>drdrgivemethenews</author>
	<datestamp>1259582940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Engineer: Hmmm, looks like system 8323 is hot, maybe we should cool it down somehow.<br> <br>

Patent Attorney: Great idea! How many different ways can we cool it?  When can I have a New Invention Report?<br> <br>

I can only hope that this straw contributes to breaking the camel's back.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Engineer : Hmmm , looks like system 8323 is hot , maybe we should cool it down somehow .
Patent Attorney : Great idea !
How many different ways can we cool it ?
When can I have a New Invention Report ?
I can only hope that this straw contributes to breaking the camel 's back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Engineer: Hmmm, looks like system 8323 is hot, maybe we should cool it down somehow.
Patent Attorney: Great idea!
How many different ways can we cool it?
When can I have a New Invention Report?
I can only hope that this straw contributes to breaking the camel's back.</sentencetext>
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