<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_30_162259</id>
	<title>EU ACTA Doc Shows Plans For Global DMCA, 3 Strikes</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1259599320000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"The European Commission <a href="http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/4575/125/">analysis of ACTA's Internet chapter</a> has leaked, indicating that the US is seeking to push laws that extend beyond the
WIPO Internet treaties and beyond current European Union law. The
document contains detailed comments on the US secret copyright treaty
proposal, confirming the desire to promote a 'three-strikes and you're
out' policy, a Global DMCA, harmonized contributory copyright
infringement rules, and the establishment of an international
notice-and-takedown policy."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " The European Commission analysis of ACTA 's Internet chapter has leaked , indicating that the US is seeking to push laws that extend beyond the WIPO Internet treaties and beyond current European Union law .
The document contains detailed comments on the US secret copyright treaty proposal , confirming the desire to promote a 'three-strikes and you 're out ' policy , a Global DMCA , harmonized contributory copyright infringement rules , and the establishment of an international notice-and-takedown policy .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "The European Commission analysis of ACTA's Internet chapter has leaked, indicating that the US is seeking to push laws that extend beyond the
WIPO Internet treaties and beyond current European Union law.
The
document contains detailed comments on the US secret copyright treaty
proposal, confirming the desire to promote a 'three-strikes and you're
out' policy, a Global DMCA, harmonized contributory copyright
infringement rules, and the establishment of an international
notice-and-takedown policy.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30272824</id>
	<title>Re:Equal Enforcement?</title>
	<author>schon</author>
	<datestamp>1259611620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Just for curiosity's sake, could we ensure the following if these laws get passed?</p><p>Company A becomes <b>convicted</b> of copyright infringement 3 times<br>Company A loses permanent access to the internet</p></div><p>Why on earth would you want to do that?   Why give corporations benefits that individuals don't get?</p><p>Remember - the three strikes makes no mention of conviction - they want you to be cut off based on  <b>accusation</b>.  The entire point is to skip the courts and due process.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just for curiosity 's sake , could we ensure the following if these laws get passed ? Company A becomes convicted of copyright infringement 3 timesCompany A loses permanent access to the internetWhy on earth would you want to do that ?
Why give corporations benefits that individuals do n't get ? Remember - the three strikes makes no mention of conviction - they want you to be cut off based on accusation .
The entire point is to skip the courts and due process .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just for curiosity's sake, could we ensure the following if these laws get passed?Company A becomes convicted of copyright infringement 3 timesCompany A loses permanent access to the internetWhy on earth would you want to do that?
Why give corporations benefits that individuals don't get?Remember - the three strikes makes no mention of conviction - they want you to be cut off based on  accusation.
The entire point is to skip the courts and due process.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271478</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30291202</id>
	<title>Re:Equal Enforcement?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259672460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Correction: not "convicted of copyright infringement", but ACCUSED of  copyright infringement.</p><p>Read the docs. You don't have to be convicted, just accused.</p><p>Yep, that's scary.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Correction : not " convicted of copyright infringement " , but ACCUSED of copyright infringement.Read the docs .
You do n't have to be convicted , just accused.Yep , that 's scary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Correction: not "convicted of copyright infringement", but ACCUSED of  copyright infringement.Read the docs.
You don't have to be convicted, just accused.Yep, that's scary.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271438</id>
	<title>Re:3 strikes - how to enforce?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259604960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Obviously, the coffee shop, library, college, neighbors and employer would be held responsible for your actions.  That'll teach them to let you do things on the internet!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Obviously , the coffee shop , library , college , neighbors and employer would be held responsible for your actions .
That 'll teach them to let you do things on the internet !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Obviously, the coffee shop, library, college, neighbors and employer would be held responsible for your actions.
That'll teach them to let you do things on the internet!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271260</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271256</id>
	<title>Re:Means nothing.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259603940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Silly fool:</p><p>1&gt; once you and all your lan party buddies lose your internet connections how will you co-ordinate a large lan party?</p><p>2&gt; this will be used to quash opposition as folks espousing unpopular opinions will hit their three strikes whenever any bureaucrat takes notice of them.</p><p>3&gt; Going to just sign up with another ISP after you strike out? Think again as it won't take long for a legal blacklist of "repeat offenders" to show up and be maintained in order to assure that the ISPs maintain their "safe harbor" status.</p><p>Now I'd like to think that this will be an unsustainable process in the long run, but it is Monday and the week ain't getting off to a good start.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Silly fool : 1 &gt; once you and all your lan party buddies lose your internet connections how will you co-ordinate a large lan party ? 2 &gt; this will be used to quash opposition as folks espousing unpopular opinions will hit their three strikes whenever any bureaucrat takes notice of them.3 &gt; Going to just sign up with another ISP after you strike out ?
Think again as it wo n't take long for a legal blacklist of " repeat offenders " to show up and be maintained in order to assure that the ISPs maintain their " safe harbor " status.Now I 'd like to think that this will be an unsustainable process in the long run , but it is Monday and the week ai n't getting off to a good start .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Silly fool:1&gt; once you and all your lan party buddies lose your internet connections how will you co-ordinate a large lan party?2&gt; this will be used to quash opposition as folks espousing unpopular opinions will hit their three strikes whenever any bureaucrat takes notice of them.3&gt; Going to just sign up with another ISP after you strike out?
Think again as it won't take long for a legal blacklist of "repeat offenders" to show up and be maintained in order to assure that the ISPs maintain their "safe harbor" status.Now I'd like to think that this will be an unsustainable process in the long run, but it is Monday and the week ain't getting off to a good start.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271122</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271150</id>
	<title>Re:Global government</title>
	<author>wizardforce</author>
	<datestamp>1259603580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think you've got that backwards.  It's our government doing the undermining:</p><blockquote><div><p>indicating that the U.S. is seeking to push laws that extend beyond the WIPO Internet treaties and beyond current European Union law.</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you 've got that backwards .
It 's our government doing the undermining : indicating that the U.S. is seeking to push laws that extend beyond the WIPO Internet treaties and beyond current European Union law .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you've got that backwards.
It's our government doing the undermining:indicating that the U.S. is seeking to push laws that extend beyond the WIPO Internet treaties and beyond current European Union law.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271044</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30272136</id>
	<title>Re:Live Free or Die Hard!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259608140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Down with the white-man based one world government!</p></div><p>Um... he is only half white.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Down with the white-man based one world government ! Um... he is only half white .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Down with the white-man based one world government!Um... he is only half white.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271100</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30276702</id>
	<title>Re:thousands of government bureaucrats</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259583120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Consider the war on drugs before you boast. The US is willing to damage millions of people even if the outcome they want is virtually impossible. (And like the war on drugs, <i>the people</i> will favor harsh treatment for "pirates" also.)</p></div><p>This is very important. People often forget the suffering that is caused when they speak of the future and how we should deal with it. Sure if we sit around drinking coke and watching daytime television what is right and true will eventually prevail. It will prevail because it is right therefore the only possible stable state for society, any other less stable state will eventually lead to it. <b>BUT</b> millions will be bankrupted, starved, imprisoned, raped, beaten, tortured. Suffering that we could all prevent right now by taking to the streets in a mass campaign of civil disobedience.</p><p>Say no to doing things the hard way</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Consider the war on drugs before you boast .
The US is willing to damage millions of people even if the outcome they want is virtually impossible .
( And like the war on drugs , the people will favor harsh treatment for " pirates " also .
) This is very important .
People often forget the suffering that is caused when they speak of the future and how we should deal with it .
Sure if we sit around drinking coke and watching daytime television what is right and true will eventually prevail .
It will prevail because it is right therefore the only possible stable state for society , any other less stable state will eventually lead to it .
BUT millions will be bankrupted , starved , imprisoned , raped , beaten , tortured .
Suffering that we could all prevent right now by taking to the streets in a mass campaign of civil disobedience.Say no to doing things the hard way</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Consider the war on drugs before you boast.
The US is willing to damage millions of people even if the outcome they want is virtually impossible.
(And like the war on drugs, the people will favor harsh treatment for "pirates" also.
)This is very important.
People often forget the suffering that is caused when they speak of the future and how we should deal with it.
Sure if we sit around drinking coke and watching daytime television what is right and true will eventually prevail.
It will prevail because it is right therefore the only possible stable state for society, any other less stable state will eventually lead to it.
BUT millions will be bankrupted, starved, imprisoned, raped, beaten, tortured.
Suffering that we could all prevent right now by taking to the streets in a mass campaign of civil disobedience.Say no to doing things the hard way
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271450</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30276314</id>
	<title>Re:thousands of government bureaucrats</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259581620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was wondering where CTS was. His brother apparently has an account now too.</p><p>As a point of difference, his brother uses his shift key once per post.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was wondering where CTS was .
His brother apparently has an account now too.As a point of difference , his brother uses his shift key once per post .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was wondering where CTS was.
His brother apparently has an account now too.As a point of difference, his brother uses his shift key once per post.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271262</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271450</id>
	<title>Re:thousands of government bureaucrats</title>
	<author>mounthood</author>
	<datestamp>1259605020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>versus</p><p>millions of teenagers who are<br>
1. technologically astute<br>
2. media hungry<br>
3. POOR</p><p>let them pass any goddamn law they want. who fucking cares?</p><p>its nothing more than damage to route around, like the internet was designed to do</p></div><p>Consider the war on drugs before you boast. The US is willing to damage millions of people even if the outcome they want is virtually impossible. (And like the war on drugs, <i>the people</i> will favor harsh treatment for "pirates" also.)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>versusmillions of teenagers who are 1. technologically astute 2. media hungry 3 .
POORlet them pass any goddamn law they want .
who fucking cares ? its nothing more than damage to route around , like the internet was designed to doConsider the war on drugs before you boast .
The US is willing to damage millions of people even if the outcome they want is virtually impossible .
( And like the war on drugs , the people will favor harsh treatment for " pirates " also .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>versusmillions of teenagers who are
1. technologically astute
2. media hungry
3.
POORlet them pass any goddamn law they want.
who fucking cares?its nothing more than damage to route around, like the internet was designed to doConsider the war on drugs before you boast.
The US is willing to damage millions of people even if the outcome they want is virtually impossible.
(And like the war on drugs, the people will favor harsh treatment for "pirates" also.
)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271262</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30272814</id>
	<title>Re:Equal Enforcement?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259611620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No.  Laws are for commoners, not for the nobility.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No .
Laws are for commoners , not for the nobility .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No.
Laws are for commoners, not for the nobility.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271478</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271428</id>
	<title>Re:thousands of government bureaucrats</title>
	<author>melikamp</author>
	<datestamp>1259604960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>By successfully censoring commercial art and removing it from the Internet, these clowns
only help us to popularize the free-as-in-freedom art. I agree: let them pass more copyright laws
if they so desire. Unlike with patents, nothing of value will be lost.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>By successfully censoring commercial art and removing it from the Internet , these clowns only help us to popularize the free-as-in-freedom art .
I agree : let them pass more copyright laws if they so desire .
Unlike with patents , nothing of value will be lost .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By successfully censoring commercial art and removing it from the Internet, these clowns
only help us to popularize the free-as-in-freedom art.
I agree: let them pass more copyright laws
if they so desire.
Unlike with patents, nothing of value will be lost.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271262</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30273362</id>
	<title>Re:3 strikes - how to enforce?</title>
	<author>w0mprat</author>
	<datestamp>1259614020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So say you get kicked off the net - how do they enforce this? Just off the top of my head I can think of a dozen ways to browse the net semi-anonymously (coffee shop, library, college, neighbors wi-fi etc etc). Not to mention having internet access at work - does that mean I'd be denied employment world-wide for messing around on the net?</p></div><p>*faceplam* You don't realise those services will dry up because the service providers won't want to face the liability. <b>Nobody</b> is going to run open wi-fi if it could mean they were libable for what other people will do with it. Public internet will evaporate, and what does remain will be draconian perhaps even to the point of blocking encrypted traffic and unusual ports, or worse anything but allowed approved domain names from Big Content.
<br> <br> Eventually even trying to hide your activity over the internet could be considered illegal.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So say you get kicked off the net - how do they enforce this ?
Just off the top of my head I can think of a dozen ways to browse the net semi-anonymously ( coffee shop , library , college , neighbors wi-fi etc etc ) .
Not to mention having internet access at work - does that mean I 'd be denied employment world-wide for messing around on the net ?
* faceplam * You do n't realise those services will dry up because the service providers wo n't want to face the liability .
Nobody is going to run open wi-fi if it could mean they were libable for what other people will do with it .
Public internet will evaporate , and what does remain will be draconian perhaps even to the point of blocking encrypted traffic and unusual ports , or worse anything but allowed approved domain names from Big Content .
Eventually even trying to hide your activity over the internet could be considered illegal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So say you get kicked off the net - how do they enforce this?
Just off the top of my head I can think of a dozen ways to browse the net semi-anonymously (coffee shop, library, college, neighbors wi-fi etc etc).
Not to mention having internet access at work - does that mean I'd be denied employment world-wide for messing around on the net?
*faceplam* You don't realise those services will dry up because the service providers won't want to face the liability.
Nobody is going to run open wi-fi if it could mean they were libable for what other people will do with it.
Public internet will evaporate, and what does remain will be draconian perhaps even to the point of blocking encrypted traffic and unusual ports, or worse anything but allowed approved domain names from Big Content.
Eventually even trying to hide your activity over the internet could be considered illegal.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271260</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271948</id>
	<title>Re:Means nothing.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259607240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not really. I'm not in the share-everything-cause-you-can boat but this has become something like destroying a persons life for jay-walking.</p><p>We rally against such laws because they become increasingly divorced from the reality of modern human existance.</p><p>When the media distribution companies decide to join us and work with the rest of the modern population maybe something less rediculous or radical will result.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not really .
I 'm not in the share-everything-cause-you-can boat but this has become something like destroying a persons life for jay-walking.We rally against such laws because they become increasingly divorced from the reality of modern human existance.When the media distribution companies decide to join us and work with the rest of the modern population maybe something less rediculous or radical will result .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not really.
I'm not in the share-everything-cause-you-can boat but this has become something like destroying a persons life for jay-walking.We rally against such laws because they become increasingly divorced from the reality of modern human existance.When the media distribution companies decide to join us and work with the rest of the modern population maybe something less rediculous or radical will result.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271314</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30278960</id>
	<title>Re:thousands of government bureaucrats</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259598780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So you DO have a shift key. We were wondering.</p><p>Try and use it a bit more often, it makes you look educated when you use proper grammar.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So you DO have a shift key .
We were wondering.Try and use it a bit more often , it makes you look educated when you use proper grammar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So you DO have a shift key.
We were wondering.Try and use it a bit more often, it makes you look educated when you use proper grammar.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271080</id>
	<title>Re:Global government</title>
	<author>Shatrat</author>
	<datestamp>1259603220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's a bit unfair.<br>
The goal is undermining the freedom of all people.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's a bit unfair .
The goal is undermining the freedom of all people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's a bit unfair.
The goal is undermining the freedom of all people.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271044</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30279946</id>
	<title>Re:A Plea to the Rest-of-the-World</title>
	<author>the\_womble</author>
	<datestamp>1259608620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sorry, we are too busy trying to restrain OUR insane leaders.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , we are too busy trying to restrain OUR insane leaders .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, we are too busy trying to restrain OUR insane leaders.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271194</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30282808</id>
	<title>Re:A Plea to the Rest-of-the-World</title>
	<author>ath1901</author>
	<datestamp>1259681040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The US is only one party away from being a dictatorship.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The US is only one party away from being a dictatorship .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The US is only one party away from being a dictatorship.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271634</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30280068</id>
	<title>Re:thousands of government bureaucrats</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259610780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem with the drug analogy is that I'm quite confident that a lot more people own or have owned an MP3 player containing <em>at least</em> one illegally acquired track, if we go back further, making copies of tapes or CDs wasn't that uncommon to my knowledge. Having "been there" people are less likely to support the usual 'being tough on crime' rhetoric if it's going to bite them in the ass rather than just the nameless faceless masses outside.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem with the drug analogy is that I 'm quite confident that a lot more people own or have owned an MP3 player containing at least one illegally acquired track , if we go back further , making copies of tapes or CDs was n't that uncommon to my knowledge .
Having " been there " people are less likely to support the usual 'being tough on crime ' rhetoric if it 's going to bite them in the ass rather than just the nameless faceless masses outside .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem with the drug analogy is that I'm quite confident that a lot more people own or have owned an MP3 player containing at least one illegally acquired track, if we go back further, making copies of tapes or CDs wasn't that uncommon to my knowledge.
Having "been there" people are less likely to support the usual 'being tough on crime' rhetoric if it's going to bite them in the ass rather than just the nameless faceless masses outside.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271450</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271394</id>
	<title>Re:thousands of government bureaucrats</title>
	<author>debrain</author>
	<datestamp>1259604720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>its nothing more than damage to route around, like the internet was designed to do</p></div><p>The media barons out there are saying "Internet piracy is nothing more than damage to route around or snuff out, like the global media conglomerates were designed to do."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>its nothing more than damage to route around , like the internet was designed to doThe media barons out there are saying " Internet piracy is nothing more than damage to route around or snuff out , like the global media conglomerates were designed to do .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>its nothing more than damage to route around, like the internet was designed to doThe media barons out there are saying "Internet piracy is nothing more than damage to route around or snuff out, like the global media conglomerates were designed to do.
"
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271262</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30272178</id>
	<title>Re:Equal Enforcement?</title>
	<author>SplashMyBandit</author>
	<datestamp>1259608260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here's a thought. I wonder if companies such as Microsoft that know if someone is using pirated versions of their software are required to report the copyright abuse. Surely if ISPs are liable then Microsoft ought to be too instead of tolerating breach of their own copyright (they don't waive the copyright, they still prosecute those they can be bothered to). Would be a colossal win for Free Software if Microsoft was compelled to report copyright infringement of their software or be liable. In fact, I think the Free Software movement should write an application to detect pirated closed-source software. That'd spur the movement to Free Software for those who say proprietary is better yet never actually pay for it. There are a few folks I know who prefer Windows to Linux yet run pirated versions of the former (and associated software) because they don't want to pay for it. Time they were made to obey the license terms, then the true economics of the situation would be revealed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's a thought .
I wonder if companies such as Microsoft that know if someone is using pirated versions of their software are required to report the copyright abuse .
Surely if ISPs are liable then Microsoft ought to be too instead of tolerating breach of their own copyright ( they do n't waive the copyright , they still prosecute those they can be bothered to ) .
Would be a colossal win for Free Software if Microsoft was compelled to report copyright infringement of their software or be liable .
In fact , I think the Free Software movement should write an application to detect pirated closed-source software .
That 'd spur the movement to Free Software for those who say proprietary is better yet never actually pay for it .
There are a few folks I know who prefer Windows to Linux yet run pirated versions of the former ( and associated software ) because they do n't want to pay for it .
Time they were made to obey the license terms , then the true economics of the situation would be revealed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's a thought.
I wonder if companies such as Microsoft that know if someone is using pirated versions of their software are required to report the copyright abuse.
Surely if ISPs are liable then Microsoft ought to be too instead of tolerating breach of their own copyright (they don't waive the copyright, they still prosecute those they can be bothered to).
Would be a colossal win for Free Software if Microsoft was compelled to report copyright infringement of their software or be liable.
In fact, I think the Free Software movement should write an application to detect pirated closed-source software.
That'd spur the movement to Free Software for those who say proprietary is better yet never actually pay for it.
There are a few folks I know who prefer Windows to Linux yet run pirated versions of the former (and associated software) because they don't want to pay for it.
Time they were made to obey the license terms, then the true economics of the situation would be revealed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271478</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271100</id>
	<title>Live Free or Die Hard!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259603340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Down with the white-man based one world government!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Down with the white-man based one world government !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Down with the white-man based one world government!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30272616</id>
	<title>Re:look at the growth of disk space for $100</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259610360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>In the future home movies will be in full wraparound 3d with much higher resolution to support zooming in on details.</p></div><p>Oh yes oh yes oh yes! And those will be as popular and sought for as those "multiple camera angles", sooo prevalent on current DVDs... oh wait. I see what I did here.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the future home movies will be in full wraparound 3d with much higher resolution to support zooming in on details.Oh yes oh yes oh yes !
And those will be as popular and sought for as those " multiple camera angles " , sooo prevalent on current DVDs... oh wait .
I see what I did here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the future home movies will be in full wraparound 3d with much higher resolution to support zooming in on details.Oh yes oh yes oh yes!
And those will be as popular and sought for as those "multiple camera angles", sooo prevalent on current DVDs... oh wait.
I see what I did here.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30272076</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271506</id>
	<title>Re:DOA in the US Senate</title>
	<author>QuantumRiff</author>
	<datestamp>1259605260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does it matter which side they are on?  They are all owned by Lobbyists, instead of by voters..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does it matter which side they are on ?
They are all owned by Lobbyists , instead of by voters. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does it matter which side they are on?
They are all owned by Lobbyists, instead of by voters..</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271074</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271474</id>
	<title>Hey, good news for the little guy!</title>
	<author>zmollusc</author>
	<datestamp>1259605140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The little guy who sells bootleg dvds in order to support terrorism. Damn pirate bay have been cutting into his profits.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The little guy who sells bootleg dvds in order to support terrorism .
Damn pirate bay have been cutting into his profits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The little guy who sells bootleg dvds in order to support terrorism.
Damn pirate bay have been cutting into his profits.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30272056</id>
	<title>Re:DOA in the US Senate</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259607720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What?</p><p>The senate will ram through whatever Obama tells them to ram through, you haven't noticed this by now?</p><p>These days all new legislation is bipartisan.  That means both parties have been paid for, and it really doesn't matter who you vote for.  Disney has the deep pockets to make this happen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What ? The senate will ram through whatever Obama tells them to ram through , you have n't noticed this by now ? These days all new legislation is bipartisan .
That means both parties have been paid for , and it really does n't matter who you vote for .
Disney has the deep pockets to make this happen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What?The senate will ram through whatever Obama tells them to ram through, you haven't noticed this by now?These days all new legislation is bipartisan.
That means both parties have been paid for, and it really doesn't matter who you vote for.
Disney has the deep pockets to make this happen.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271074</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271488</id>
	<title>left/right</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259605200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There <em>are</em> no far rightists or far leftists.  Adopting political ideologies is just for people who don't want to raise money.  If you want to be able to afford to run campaign ads, then the first thing you do is forget all that left/right stuff and just do whatever the corporations pay you to do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are no far rightists or far leftists .
Adopting political ideologies is just for people who do n't want to raise money .
If you want to be able to afford to run campaign ads , then the first thing you do is forget all that left/right stuff and just do whatever the corporations pay you to do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are no far rightists or far leftists.
Adopting political ideologies is just for people who don't want to raise money.
If you want to be able to afford to run campaign ads, then the first thing you do is forget all that left/right stuff and just do whatever the corporations pay you to do.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271074</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30280638</id>
	<title>Re:DOA in the US Senate</title>
	<author>anti-pop-frustration</author>
	<datestamp>1259660940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I would forsee the unlikely coalition of far rightists and far leftists</p></div><p>'Far leftists' in the US Senate? How's the weather in your parallel universe?</p><p>Or are you talking about the few liberals that might be labeled as center in the rest of the world?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would forsee the unlikely coalition of far rightists and far leftists'Far leftists ' in the US Senate ?
How 's the weather in your parallel universe ? Or are you talking about the few liberals that might be labeled as center in the rest of the world ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would forsee the unlikely coalition of far rightists and far leftists'Far leftists' in the US Senate?
How's the weather in your parallel universe?Or are you talking about the few liberals that might be labeled as center in the rest of the world?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271074</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271634</id>
	<title>Re:A Plea to the Rest-of-the-World</title>
	<author>muuh-gnu</author>
	<datestamp>1259605980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In order to do your job, you'd have to vote them out of office. But you cant vote them out because your system in practice allows only two parties. The US hasnt had a third party winning somwhere since more than 100 years. 300 Million citizens and only \_two\_ fscking  parties to vote for, every god-forgotten country-so-small-you-cant-find-on-the-map from the Balcans would laugh its collective ass off about calling that "democracy".</p><p>Add to that the fact that, at least regarding copyright, the two US parties basically agreed to form a cartel (MAFIAA isnt called MAFIAA for nothing), and youre simply out of luck.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In order to do your job , you 'd have to vote them out of office .
But you cant vote them out because your system in practice allows only two parties .
The US hasnt had a third party winning somwhere since more than 100 years .
300 Million citizens and only \ _two \ _ fscking parties to vote for , every god-forgotten country-so-small-you-cant-find-on-the-map from the Balcans would laugh its collective ass off about calling that " democracy " .Add to that the fact that , at least regarding copyright , the two US parties basically agreed to form a cartel ( MAFIAA isnt called MAFIAA for nothing ) , and youre simply out of luck .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In order to do your job, you'd have to vote them out of office.
But you cant vote them out because your system in practice allows only two parties.
The US hasnt had a third party winning somwhere since more than 100 years.
300 Million citizens and only \_two\_ fscking  parties to vote for, every god-forgotten country-so-small-you-cant-find-on-the-map from the Balcans would laugh its collective ass off about calling that "democracy".Add to that the fact that, at least regarding copyright, the two US parties basically agreed to form a cartel (MAFIAA isnt called MAFIAA for nothing), and youre simply out of luck.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271288</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30278264</id>
	<title>Re:A Plea to the Rest-of-the-World</title>
	<author>jekk</author>
	<datestamp>1259592480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, I know... I've been trying. Ever since 2 years into Bush's term, I've been contributing money AND TIME to national campaigns. But so far it isn't working... well, at least Obama's election was better than Bush so maybe it is STARTING to work? I hope?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , I know... I 've been trying .
Ever since 2 years into Bush 's term , I 've been contributing money AND TIME to national campaigns .
But so far it is n't working... well , at least Obama 's election was better than Bush so maybe it is STARTING to work ?
I hope ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, I know... I've been trying.
Ever since 2 years into Bush's term, I've been contributing money AND TIME to national campaigns.
But so far it isn't working... well, at least Obama's election was better than Bush so maybe it is STARTING to work?
I hope?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271288</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271122</id>
	<title>Means nothing.</title>
	<author>Ralph Spoilsport</author>
	<datestamp>1259603400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>All this will do is encourage LAN parties. That's how I get most of my music anyway. And videos? Rent once &gt; Rip It &gt; Done. Exchange at LAN parties.</htmltext>
<tokenext>All this will do is encourage LAN parties .
That 's how I get most of my music anyway .
And videos ?
Rent once &gt; Rip It &gt; Done .
Exchange at LAN parties .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All this will do is encourage LAN parties.
That's how I get most of my music anyway.
And videos?
Rent once &gt; Rip It &gt; Done.
Exchange at LAN parties.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271392</id>
	<title>Re:DOA in the US Senate</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259604720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I don't think this treaty would pass in the US Senate.  I would forsee the unlikely coalition of far rightists and far leftists actually collaborating to defeat this, just as they actually have on some other things.</p></div><p>Errr, have you got any "far leftists" in your senate?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think this treaty would pass in the US Senate .
I would forsee the unlikely coalition of far rightists and far leftists actually collaborating to defeat this , just as they actually have on some other things.Errr , have you got any " far leftists " in your senate ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think this treaty would pass in the US Senate.
I would forsee the unlikely coalition of far rightists and far leftists actually collaborating to defeat this, just as they actually have on some other things.Errr, have you got any "far leftists" in your senate?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271074</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271794</id>
	<title>Re:DOA in the US Senate</title>
	<author>db32</author>
	<datestamp>1259606640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just like they did with the various copyright extensions and DMCA where they all got together, held hands, sang kumbaya, and then passed them all nearly unanimously...wait...shit... that is the opposite of what you are hoping they do.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just like they did with the various copyright extensions and DMCA where they all got together , held hands , sang kumbaya , and then passed them all nearly unanimously...wait...shit... that is the opposite of what you are hoping they do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just like they did with the various copyright extensions and DMCA where they all got together, held hands, sang kumbaya, and then passed them all nearly unanimously...wait...shit... that is the opposite of what you are hoping they do.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271074</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271194</id>
	<title>A Plea to the Rest-of-the-World</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259603760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dear Rest-of-the-World:</p><p>I realize that you have already had to deal with an invasion of Iraq to eliminate imaginary "weapons of mass destruction" and a world-wide financial collapse (although, to be fair, you bear some of the responsibility for that one... after all YOU believed our our uncritical rating agencies). And we're still stumbling around on that ruining-the-planetary-climate issue. So I know it's a big favor to ask, but would you please, PLEASE restrain my country's insane leaders?</p><p>Thanks...<br>-- A Sane American.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dear Rest-of-the-World : I realize that you have already had to deal with an invasion of Iraq to eliminate imaginary " weapons of mass destruction " and a world-wide financial collapse ( although , to be fair , you bear some of the responsibility for that one... after all YOU believed our our uncritical rating agencies ) .
And we 're still stumbling around on that ruining-the-planetary-climate issue .
So I know it 's a big favor to ask , but would you please , PLEASE restrain my country 's insane leaders ? Thanks...-- A Sane American .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dear Rest-of-the-World:I realize that you have already had to deal with an invasion of Iraq to eliminate imaginary "weapons of mass destruction" and a world-wide financial collapse (although, to be fair, you bear some of the responsibility for that one... after all YOU believed our our uncritical rating agencies).
And we're still stumbling around on that ruining-the-planetary-climate issue.
So I know it's a big favor to ask, but would you please, PLEASE restrain my country's insane leaders?Thanks...-- A Sane American.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30272424</id>
	<title>Re:Live Free or Die Hard!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259609340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I accidentally read that as "Down with the white-man basement one world government!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I accidentally read that as " Down with the white-man basement one world government !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I accidentally read that as "Down with the white-man basement one world government!
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271100</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271458</id>
	<title>Re:A Plea to the Rest-of-the-World</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259605020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Any limits on how?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Any limits on how ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Any limits on how?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271194</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30272694</id>
	<title>Re:Equal Enforcement?</title>
	<author>Late Adopter</author>
	<datestamp>1259610960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Unlike natural persons, there's nothing that stops a company from shifting everything that makes them who they are into a different company.  CEOs can jump ship, subsidiaries can be spun off, assets can be transfered, etc, leaving only a shell to answer for the liabilities, and eventually collapse under its own weight.  The analogy of corporations to people only makes sense in limited circumstances.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unlike natural persons , there 's nothing that stops a company from shifting everything that makes them who they are into a different company .
CEOs can jump ship , subsidiaries can be spun off , assets can be transfered , etc , leaving only a shell to answer for the liabilities , and eventually collapse under its own weight .
The analogy of corporations to people only makes sense in limited circumstances .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unlike natural persons, there's nothing that stops a company from shifting everything that makes them who they are into a different company.
CEOs can jump ship, subsidiaries can be spun off, assets can be transfered, etc, leaving only a shell to answer for the liabilities, and eventually collapse under its own weight.
The analogy of corporations to people only makes sense in limited circumstances.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271478</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30277552</id>
	<title>DECLERATION OF WAR CONTINUED</title>
	<author>gamecrusader</author>
	<datestamp>1259587260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>TIME TO USE THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT<br>OUR FIRST ADMENDMENT AS AMERICANS, AND ANY OTHER RIGHTS THAT ANY OTHER CITIZEN AROUND THE WORLD HAS<br>People, anyone who knows, any leaders, or people who wield power and influence in the government, people who hold high positions in any of the governments of power, the time to act is now!!!!<br>Petitions, protests, letters, emails, speach, media, every method to halt it must be used- no violence we don't want our efforts to spiral out of control, nor inoccent people to get hurt, or others as well.<br>Freedom of information act, time to use.<br>THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE MUST BE HEARD!!!!!!</p><p>DO NOT LET GOVERNMENTS TAKE AWAY ONE OF THE MOST VALUED RESOURCES ON THE PLANET!!!!!<br>Action is neccessary to stop the nightmare from taking our lives away.<br>Do not let this pass!!!!!!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>TIME TO USE THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACTOUR FIRST ADMENDMENT AS AMERICANS , AND ANY OTHER RIGHTS THAT ANY OTHER CITIZEN AROUND THE WORLD HASPeople , anyone who knows , any leaders , or people who wield power and influence in the government , people who hold high positions in any of the governments of power , the time to act is now ! ! !
! Petitions , protests , letters , emails , speach , media , every method to halt it must be used- no violence we do n't want our efforts to spiral out of control , nor inoccent people to get hurt , or others as well.Freedom of information act , time to use.THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE MUST BE HEARD ! ! ! ! !
! DO NOT LET GOVERNMENTS TAKE AWAY ONE OF THE MOST VALUED RESOURCES ON THE PLANET ! ! ! !
! Action is neccessary to stop the nightmare from taking our lives away.Do not let this pass ! ! ! ! ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TIME TO USE THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACTOUR FIRST ADMENDMENT AS AMERICANS, AND ANY OTHER RIGHTS THAT ANY OTHER CITIZEN AROUND THE WORLD HASPeople, anyone who knows, any leaders, or people who wield power and influence in the government, people who hold high positions in any of the governments of power, the time to act is now!!!
!Petitions, protests, letters, emails, speach, media, every method to halt it must be used- no violence we don't want our efforts to spiral out of control, nor inoccent people to get hurt, or others as well.Freedom of information act, time to use.THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE MUST BE HEARD!!!!!
!DO NOT LET GOVERNMENTS TAKE AWAY ONE OF THE MOST VALUED RESOURCES ON THE PLANET!!!!
!Action is neccessary to stop the nightmare from taking our lives away.Do not let this pass!!!!!!!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271410</id>
	<title>"Failing" is a bit harsh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259604840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Politicians call it "strategically avoiding success."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Politicians call it " strategically avoiding success .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Politicians call it "strategically avoiding success.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271200</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30275076</id>
	<title>Re:thousands of government bureaucrats</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259577180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Comparing the effects of widespread piracy of music and movies on a population and the effect of hard drugs is ridiculous. Lots of media is absolutely terrible and may be said to "rot your brain", but many, many of the kinds of drugs that are illegal really ruin people's lives and make them completely unemployable and a drain on the world.<br> <br> I'm sure most of the population will get behind a law against life-wrecking hard drugs, but I can't see them rallying to stop piracy as hard. The negative side effects just aren't as deadly.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Comparing the effects of widespread piracy of music and movies on a population and the effect of hard drugs is ridiculous .
Lots of media is absolutely terrible and may be said to " rot your brain " , but many , many of the kinds of drugs that are illegal really ruin people 's lives and make them completely unemployable and a drain on the world .
I 'm sure most of the population will get behind a law against life-wrecking hard drugs , but I ca n't see them rallying to stop piracy as hard .
The negative side effects just are n't as deadly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Comparing the effects of widespread piracy of music and movies on a population and the effect of hard drugs is ridiculous.
Lots of media is absolutely terrible and may be said to "rot your brain", but many, many of the kinds of drugs that are illegal really ruin people's lives and make them completely unemployable and a drain on the world.
I'm sure most of the population will get behind a law against life-wrecking hard drugs, but I can't see them rallying to stop piracy as hard.
The negative side effects just aren't as deadly.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271450</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30277498</id>
	<title>DECLERATION OF WAR AGAINST THE INTERNET</title>
	<author>gamecrusader</author>
	<datestamp>1259586840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I declare this a decleration of war against the whole internet!!!!!!<br>It can't be allowed<br>IF THIS PASSES<br>It will be the end of the modern age as we know it<br>The internet will never ever be the same<br>People will live in fear of loosing access to the internet<br>People who loose access to the internet will be done, everything they worked for will disappear<br>The world will never be the same<br>Governments will be hated more than ever</p><p>IF THIS PASSES</p><p>It can start a chain reaction leading to a nightmare possibility mass civil wars<br>It can start a chain reaction leading to  the worst nightmare of  all nightmares World War III which will be the end of humanity as we know it, YES ITS POSSIBLE!!<br>It will be the end to humanity as we humans have known it<br>Few to none are ready to handle any nightmare which this will bring when it passes<br>Does anyone here want their country to have no ally if one of these nightmares occurs?<br>Many will be unfairly, and victimized prosecuted, because they were tricked, or used, or had their identity stollen then used for nefarious purposes making them the law breaker, even though they had the identity stollen<br>Can you accept the fact that you may loose your access to the internet the life line to the world?<br>Are people ready to go back to the stone age?</p><p>IF THIS PASSES<br>do you want to have your identity stolen then be convicted because the person who stole your identity had infringed copyrights.<br>many many americans, and people of this world will loose possibly their only happieness<br>copyright trolls, will have a iron grip on the world<br>do you really want the governments of this world to spend billions enforcing this when the money could be surely used to improve life, save lives, and keep our future generations from paying the for the massive debts our current generations have created?<br>this will start a new worse chapter in the history of mankind</p><p>WE MUST STOP IT, ITS A DECLERATION OF WAR AGAINST THE INTERNET!!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I declare this a decleration of war against the whole internet ! ! ! ! !
! It ca n't be allowedIF THIS PASSESIt will be the end of the modern age as we know itThe internet will never ever be the samePeople will live in fear of loosing access to the internetPeople who loose access to the internet will be done , everything they worked for will disappearThe world will never be the sameGovernments will be hated more than everIF THIS PASSESIt can start a chain reaction leading to a nightmare possibility mass civil warsIt can start a chain reaction leading to the worst nightmare of all nightmares World War III which will be the end of humanity as we know it , YES ITS POSSIBLE !
! It will be the end to humanity as we humans have known itFew to none are ready to handle any nightmare which this will bring when it passesDoes anyone here want their country to have no ally if one of these nightmares occurs ? Many will be unfairly , and victimized prosecuted , because they were tricked , or used , or had their identity stollen then used for nefarious purposes making them the law breaker , even though they had the identity stollenCan you accept the fact that you may loose your access to the internet the life line to the world ? Are people ready to go back to the stone age ? IF THIS PASSESdo you want to have your identity stolen then be convicted because the person who stole your identity had infringed copyrights.many many americans , and people of this world will loose possibly their only happienesscopyright trolls , will have a iron grip on the worlddo you really want the governments of this world to spend billions enforcing this when the money could be surely used to improve life , save lives , and keep our future generations from paying the for the massive debts our current generations have created ? this will start a new worse chapter in the history of mankindWE MUST STOP IT , ITS A DECLERATION OF WAR AGAINST THE INTERNET ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I declare this a decleration of war against the whole internet!!!!!
!It can't be allowedIF THIS PASSESIt will be the end of the modern age as we know itThe internet will never ever be the samePeople will live in fear of loosing access to the internetPeople who loose access to the internet will be done, everything they worked for will disappearThe world will never be the sameGovernments will be hated more than everIF THIS PASSESIt can start a chain reaction leading to a nightmare possibility mass civil warsIt can start a chain reaction leading to  the worst nightmare of  all nightmares World War III which will be the end of humanity as we know it, YES ITS POSSIBLE!
!It will be the end to humanity as we humans have known itFew to none are ready to handle any nightmare which this will bring when it passesDoes anyone here want their country to have no ally if one of these nightmares occurs?Many will be unfairly, and victimized prosecuted, because they were tricked, or used, or had their identity stollen then used for nefarious purposes making them the law breaker, even though they had the identity stollenCan you accept the fact that you may loose your access to the internet the life line to the world?Are people ready to go back to the stone age?IF THIS PASSESdo you want to have your identity stolen then be convicted because the person who stole your identity had infringed copyrights.many many americans, and people of this world will loose possibly their only happienesscopyright trolls, will have a iron grip on the worlddo you really want the governments of this world to spend billions enforcing this when the money could be surely used to improve life, save lives, and keep our future generations from paying the for the massive debts our current generations have created?this will start a new worse chapter in the history of mankindWE MUST STOP IT, ITS A DECLERATION OF WAR AGAINST THE INTERNET!!!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271424</id>
	<title>Re:Global government</title>
	<author>Shikaku</author>
	<datestamp>1259604900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do it.  Make it into a law.  It's called due fucking process.</p><p>The RIAA only worked with lawsuits now because they are all CIVIL cases.</p><p>If people start randomly getting arrested without due process for no reason like the RIAA randomly does with potshots, there will be hell.</p><p>Make it into criminal cases.  There will be blood of executives on the streets, I guarantee it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do it .
Make it into a law .
It 's called due fucking process.The RIAA only worked with lawsuits now because they are all CIVIL cases.If people start randomly getting arrested without due process for no reason like the RIAA randomly does with potshots , there will be hell.Make it into criminal cases .
There will be blood of executives on the streets , I guarantee it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do it.
Make it into a law.
It's called due fucking process.The RIAA only worked with lawsuits now because they are all CIVIL cases.If people start randomly getting arrested without due process for no reason like the RIAA randomly does with potshots, there will be hell.Make it into criminal cases.
There will be blood of executives on the streets, I guarantee it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271044</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271206</id>
	<title>US or USSR?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259603760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In soviet Russia DMCA take you down.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In soviet Russia DMCA take you down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In soviet Russia DMCA take you down.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30272286</id>
	<title>17 USC 512(j)(1)</title>
	<author>tepples</author>
	<datestamp>1259608680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I know of no element of US law that supports the 3 strikes notion.</p></div><p>Look at what <a href="http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap5.html#512" title="copyright.gov">17 USC 512(j)(1)</a> [copyright.gov] says about repeat infringers.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I know of no element of US law that supports the 3 strikes notion.Look at what 17 USC 512 ( j ) ( 1 ) [ copyright.gov ] says about repeat infringers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know of no element of US law that supports the 3 strikes notion.Look at what 17 USC 512(j)(1) [copyright.gov] says about repeat infringers.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271452</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271288</id>
	<title>Re:A Plea to the Rest-of-the-World</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259604180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not the rest of the world's jo to restrain our leaders.  It is OUR JOB to restrain our leaders.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not the rest of the world 's jo to restrain our leaders .
It is OUR JOB to restrain our leaders .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not the rest of the world's jo to restrain our leaders.
It is OUR JOB to restrain our leaders.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271194</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271340</id>
	<title>Re:thousands of government bureaucrats</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259604420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've decided to spend mod points instead of post</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've decided to spend mod points instead of post</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've decided to spend mod points instead of post</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271262</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271044</id>
	<title>Global government</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259603100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>More evidence that there is a real movement afoot for a global government with the goal of undermining the freedom and liberties of U.S. citizens.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>More evidence that there is a real movement afoot for a global government with the goal of undermining the freedom and liberties of U.S. citizens .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More evidence that there is a real movement afoot for a global government with the goal of undermining the freedom and liberties of U.S. citizens.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30276158</id>
	<title>Re:A Plea to the Rest-of-the-World</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259581020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nuke the fuckers</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nuke the fuckers</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nuke the fuckers</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271194</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30272076</id>
	<title>Re:look at the growth of disk space for $100</title>
	<author>lena\_10326</author>
	<datestamp>1259607840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think the data storage will still be consumed. In the future home movies will be in full wraparound 3d with much higher resolution to support zooming in on details.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the data storage will still be consumed .
In the future home movies will be in full wraparound 3d with much higher resolution to support zooming in on details .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the data storage will still be consumed.
In the future home movies will be in full wraparound 3d with much higher resolution to support zooming in on details.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271446</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30272388</id>
	<title>Re:thousands of government bureaucrats</title>
	<author>CrazedSanity</author>
	<datestamp>1259609100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If RFID chips are instituted as a way of attempting to control people, identity theft will/can be more widespread.  The data from an RFID chip is very easily read.  Even if there were a password associated with the RFID, this would be rudamentary to steal, since few people utilize strong passwords.  Now imagine it took no more than the right ID+Password to completely hijack another's identity... it would be like handing out kits with a person's DNA, SS #, driver's license, mother's maiden name, full set of fingerprints, and the last 30 unique passwords they used.  I vote yes to nationwide stupidity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If RFID chips are instituted as a way of attempting to control people , identity theft will/can be more widespread .
The data from an RFID chip is very easily read .
Even if there were a password associated with the RFID , this would be rudamentary to steal , since few people utilize strong passwords .
Now imagine it took no more than the right ID + Password to completely hijack another 's identity... it would be like handing out kits with a person 's DNA , SS # , driver 's license , mother 's maiden name , full set of fingerprints , and the last 30 unique passwords they used .
I vote yes to nationwide stupidity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If RFID chips are instituted as a way of attempting to control people, identity theft will/can be more widespread.
The data from an RFID chip is very easily read.
Even if there were a password associated with the RFID, this would be rudamentary to steal, since few people utilize strong passwords.
Now imagine it took no more than the right ID+Password to completely hijack another's identity... it would be like handing out kits with a person's DNA, SS #, driver's license, mother's maiden name, full set of fingerprints, and the last 30 unique passwords they used.
I vote yes to nationwide stupidity.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271262</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271648</id>
	<title>Re:3 strikes - how to enforce?</title>
	<author>AndrewNeo</author>
	<datestamp>1259606040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As far as I know, the way the 3-strikes laws are supposed to work are only to disconnect your home ISP access. You're not 'banned' from the internet entirely, just from subscribing to it as a resident. I'm not so sure how this treaty works, though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As far as I know , the way the 3-strikes laws are supposed to work are only to disconnect your home ISP access .
You 're not 'banned ' from the internet entirely , just from subscribing to it as a resident .
I 'm not so sure how this treaty works , though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As far as I know, the way the 3-strikes laws are supposed to work are only to disconnect your home ISP access.
You're not 'banned' from the internet entirely, just from subscribing to it as a resident.
I'm not so sure how this treaty works, though.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271260</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30274714</id>
	<title>The power to define our culture is still our own</title>
	<author>dirkdodgers</author>
	<datestamp>1259575620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If only we seize it.</p><p>Don't give me hyperbole about our culture being locked away. Don't give me bullshit about how many Linux ISOs you download over bittorrent.</p><p>What's being locked away isn't our culture. What's being locked away is a bought and sold-out culture that we deluded ourselves into believing was our own. Rather than create culture, we, like our parents before us, feed like pigs at the trough on the culture sold to us by corporate conglomerates, willfully, knowingly, and happily, with shit-eating grins.</p><p>We have, and always have had, the power to define culture ourselves, and to keep that culture free, but we haven't, because most of us are sellouts, and most of us don't have the will to pass up the slop in the trough.</p><p>I dare you to stop the hypocritical bullshit. I dare you to define your own culture:<br><a href="http://creativecommons.org/" title="creativecommons.org">http://creativecommons.org/</a> [creativecommons.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If only we seize it.Do n't give me hyperbole about our culture being locked away .
Do n't give me bullshit about how many Linux ISOs you download over bittorrent.What 's being locked away is n't our culture .
What 's being locked away is a bought and sold-out culture that we deluded ourselves into believing was our own .
Rather than create culture , we , like our parents before us , feed like pigs at the trough on the culture sold to us by corporate conglomerates , willfully , knowingly , and happily , with shit-eating grins.We have , and always have had , the power to define culture ourselves , and to keep that culture free , but we have n't , because most of us are sellouts , and most of us do n't have the will to pass up the slop in the trough.I dare you to stop the hypocritical bullshit .
I dare you to define your own culture : http : //creativecommons.org/ [ creativecommons.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If only we seize it.Don't give me hyperbole about our culture being locked away.
Don't give me bullshit about how many Linux ISOs you download over bittorrent.What's being locked away isn't our culture.
What's being locked away is a bought and sold-out culture that we deluded ourselves into believing was our own.
Rather than create culture, we, like our parents before us, feed like pigs at the trough on the culture sold to us by corporate conglomerates, willfully, knowingly, and happily, with shit-eating grins.We have, and always have had, the power to define culture ourselves, and to keep that culture free, but we haven't, because most of us are sellouts, and most of us don't have the will to pass up the slop in the trough.I dare you to stop the hypocritical bullshit.
I dare you to define your own culture:http://creativecommons.org/ [creativecommons.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30280690</id>
	<title>Re:Global government</title>
	<author>MacWiz</author>
	<datestamp>1259661480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lot of posts here assigning blame to the governments. Whether you're in the US, UK, EU, Japan or Australia, it's the cartel that should receive the credit for this. Sony, EMI, Universal, Warner, Disney, Fox, etc.</p><p>It has nothing to do with civil liberties. It's about money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lot of posts here assigning blame to the governments .
Whether you 're in the US , UK , EU , Japan or Australia , it 's the cartel that should receive the credit for this .
Sony , EMI , Universal , Warner , Disney , Fox , etc.It has nothing to do with civil liberties .
It 's about money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lot of posts here assigning blame to the governments.
Whether you're in the US, UK, EU, Japan or Australia, it's the cartel that should receive the credit for this.
Sony, EMI, Universal, Warner, Disney, Fox, etc.It has nothing to do with civil liberties.
It's about money.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271044</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30274660</id>
	<title>Re:thousands of government bureaucrats</title>
	<author>snadrus</author>
	<datestamp>1259575320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's the best part of the war on copyright:<br>
Make pirating impossible to those too poor to buy it, then have Internet everywhere. Open source is the answer to get you to the creative commons Internet of the future. <br>
As a nation becomes poorer and copyright penalties tighten, open source will be the only answer.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's the best part of the war on copyright : Make pirating impossible to those too poor to buy it , then have Internet everywhere .
Open source is the answer to get you to the creative commons Internet of the future .
As a nation becomes poorer and copyright penalties tighten , open source will be the only answer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's the best part of the war on copyright:
Make pirating impossible to those too poor to buy it, then have Internet everywhere.
Open source is the answer to get you to the creative commons Internet of the future.
As a nation becomes poorer and copyright penalties tighten, open source will be the only answer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271428</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30272422</id>
	<title>Re:A Plea to the Rest-of-the-World</title>
	<author>jpmorgan</author>
	<datestamp>1259609340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is a common point, but it's not really true.</p><p>Yes, at general elections there are, practically speaking, only two options. However, the US has a very open primary system. I'm not American, but my understanding is that all one has to do is check 'Democrat' or 'Republican' on voter registration forms to be allowed to participate. At primaries there ARE a broad range of ideas and philosophies presented. So yes, the final choice is between two... but those two are in turn selected through a democratic process by a self-selected, interested subset of the general population.</p><p>So if members of the public find both options undesirable, they should be participating in the optional primary system as well. i.e., don't bitch about your choices when you have a say in what those choices were in the first place.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a common point , but it 's not really true.Yes , at general elections there are , practically speaking , only two options .
However , the US has a very open primary system .
I 'm not American , but my understanding is that all one has to do is check 'Democrat ' or 'Republican ' on voter registration forms to be allowed to participate .
At primaries there ARE a broad range of ideas and philosophies presented .
So yes , the final choice is between two... but those two are in turn selected through a democratic process by a self-selected , interested subset of the general population.So if members of the public find both options undesirable , they should be participating in the optional primary system as well .
i.e. , do n't bitch about your choices when you have a say in what those choices were in the first place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a common point, but it's not really true.Yes, at general elections there are, practically speaking, only two options.
However, the US has a very open primary system.
I'm not American, but my understanding is that all one has to do is check 'Democrat' or 'Republican' on voter registration forms to be allowed to participate.
At primaries there ARE a broad range of ideas and philosophies presented.
So yes, the final choice is between two... but those two are in turn selected through a democratic process by a self-selected, interested subset of the general population.So if members of the public find both options undesirable, they should be participating in the optional primary system as well.
i.e., don't bitch about your choices when you have a say in what those choices were in the first place.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30272700</id>
	<title>Re:thousands of government bureaucrats</title>
	<author>dryeo</author>
	<datestamp>1259610960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You think they won't cut you off just because it was free-as-in-freedom art?<br>One of the motivations for these laws is to kill independent art</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You think they wo n't cut you off just because it was free-as-in-freedom art ? One of the motivations for these laws is to kill independent art</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You think they won't cut you off just because it was free-as-in-freedom art?One of the motivations for these laws is to kill independent art</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271428</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30275620</id>
	<title>I finally found the step 2!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259579220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Step 1: Spend 10/20/30 or more years studying and playing with zero financial stability and eventually be able to write music that other people like.</p><p>Step 2: Hire other people to make stuff completely unrelated to your primary abilities, that your audience may not want </p><p>Step 3: Profit</p><p>Result: You will have pretty much voted for the Brittany Spears of the world as our musical greats. So that old meme just isn't the answer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Step 1 : Spend 10/20/30 or more years studying and playing with zero financial stability and eventually be able to write music that other people like.Step 2 : Hire other people to make stuff completely unrelated to your primary abilities , that your audience may not want Step 3 : ProfitResult : You will have pretty much voted for the Brittany Spears of the world as our musical greats .
So that old meme just is n't the answer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Step 1: Spend 10/20/30 or more years studying and playing with zero financial stability and eventually be able to write music that other people like.Step 2: Hire other people to make stuff completely unrelated to your primary abilities, that your audience may not want Step 3: ProfitResult: You will have pretty much voted for the Brittany Spears of the world as our musical greats.
So that old meme just isn't the answer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271446</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271446</id>
	<title>look at the growth of disk space for $100</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259604960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>By 2025 (at the current rate of advance sustained over the last 30 years) a TB of disk storage will cost about a penny.  For $100, you will be able to buy a hard drive that will hold 2.5 *centuries* of HD video.  While that might not be enough to hold all of mankind's copyrighted media, it will be more than enough to hold more media of whatever format will be in use in 2025 than a person could reasonably consume in their lifetime.</p><p><a href="http://brownzings.blogspot.com/2009/11/disruptive-change.html" title="blogspot.com">http://brownzings.blogspot.com/2009/11/disruptive-change.html</a> [blogspot.com]</p><p>The point is, if we copyright any and every scrap of content produced, and maintain the same sorts of restrictions on such content that we enforce at the current time plus all the restrictions of the ACTA....   We will have no legal way to use a storage card we might get as a prize in a Cracker Jack box, much less a drive we actually buy.</p><p>And if people can carry around cheap storage sufficiently large to simply clone everyone's media libraries who they might meet, to sort out what they want later, who needs the Internet to "pirate"? (Thus what would be the real use of "Three Strikes"?)</p><p>When I write a joke, it is copyrighted.  But jokes are so easy to repeat, and so hard to track that there isn't any way I can be paid for each time my joke gets retold.  When media becomes easier to pass along than a joke, how can anyone require a payment for each retelling?  There are other ways to be compensated, and the entertainment industry is going to have to learn to live with Moore's Law just like any high tech company does.  Learn to leverage the efficiencies they gain with better technology to offset the loss of revenue that occurs as technology eliminates sources of income.</p><p>Live Concerts, Movie Theaters, endorsement deals, Shirts, and other value adds (plus who-knows what value adds might arise in the future) may be where the entertainment industry will have to go.  Cheap (and I don't mean $10, or $5, or even $3) downloads of non DRM movies would bring in plenty of income from those that simply don't want to bother with other services.</p><p>Life is tough as technology takes away your income.  But we are not going to kill the advance of technology, as much as the entertainment industry would like us to.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>By 2025 ( at the current rate of advance sustained over the last 30 years ) a TB of disk storage will cost about a penny .
For $ 100 , you will be able to buy a hard drive that will hold 2.5 * centuries * of HD video .
While that might not be enough to hold all of mankind 's copyrighted media , it will be more than enough to hold more media of whatever format will be in use in 2025 than a person could reasonably consume in their lifetime.http : //brownzings.blogspot.com/2009/11/disruptive-change.html [ blogspot.com ] The point is , if we copyright any and every scrap of content produced , and maintain the same sorts of restrictions on such content that we enforce at the current time plus all the restrictions of the ACTA.... We will have no legal way to use a storage card we might get as a prize in a Cracker Jack box , much less a drive we actually buy.And if people can carry around cheap storage sufficiently large to simply clone everyone 's media libraries who they might meet , to sort out what they want later , who needs the Internet to " pirate " ?
( Thus what would be the real use of " Three Strikes " ?
) When I write a joke , it is copyrighted .
But jokes are so easy to repeat , and so hard to track that there is n't any way I can be paid for each time my joke gets retold .
When media becomes easier to pass along than a joke , how can anyone require a payment for each retelling ?
There are other ways to be compensated , and the entertainment industry is going to have to learn to live with Moore 's Law just like any high tech company does .
Learn to leverage the efficiencies they gain with better technology to offset the loss of revenue that occurs as technology eliminates sources of income.Live Concerts , Movie Theaters , endorsement deals , Shirts , and other value adds ( plus who-knows what value adds might arise in the future ) may be where the entertainment industry will have to go .
Cheap ( and I do n't mean $ 10 , or $ 5 , or even $ 3 ) downloads of non DRM movies would bring in plenty of income from those that simply do n't want to bother with other services.Life is tough as technology takes away your income .
But we are not going to kill the advance of technology , as much as the entertainment industry would like us to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By 2025 (at the current rate of advance sustained over the last 30 years) a TB of disk storage will cost about a penny.
For $100, you will be able to buy a hard drive that will hold 2.5 *centuries* of HD video.
While that might not be enough to hold all of mankind's copyrighted media, it will be more than enough to hold more media of whatever format will be in use in 2025 than a person could reasonably consume in their lifetime.http://brownzings.blogspot.com/2009/11/disruptive-change.html [blogspot.com]The point is, if we copyright any and every scrap of content produced, and maintain the same sorts of restrictions on such content that we enforce at the current time plus all the restrictions of the ACTA....   We will have no legal way to use a storage card we might get as a prize in a Cracker Jack box, much less a drive we actually buy.And if people can carry around cheap storage sufficiently large to simply clone everyone's media libraries who they might meet, to sort out what they want later, who needs the Internet to "pirate"?
(Thus what would be the real use of "Three Strikes"?
)When I write a joke, it is copyrighted.
But jokes are so easy to repeat, and so hard to track that there isn't any way I can be paid for each time my joke gets retold.
When media becomes easier to pass along than a joke, how can anyone require a payment for each retelling?
There are other ways to be compensated, and the entertainment industry is going to have to learn to live with Moore's Law just like any high tech company does.
Learn to leverage the efficiencies they gain with better technology to offset the loss of revenue that occurs as technology eliminates sources of income.Live Concerts, Movie Theaters, endorsement deals, Shirts, and other value adds (plus who-knows what value adds might arise in the future) may be where the entertainment industry will have to go.
Cheap (and I don't mean $10, or $5, or even $3) downloads of non DRM movies would bring in plenty of income from those that simply don't want to bother with other services.Life is tough as technology takes away your income.
But we are not going to kill the advance of technology, as much as the entertainment industry would like us to.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271106</id>
	<title>Re:Global government</title>
	<author>TheOrangeMan</author>
	<datestamp>1259603340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The way the summary reads it seems more like a U.S. initiative with the goal of undermining the freedom and liberties of global citizens...</htmltext>
<tokenext>The way the summary reads it seems more like a U.S. initiative with the goal of undermining the freedom and liberties of global citizens.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The way the summary reads it seems more like a U.S. initiative with the goal of undermining the freedom and liberties of global citizens...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271044</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30272094</id>
	<title>Re:Equal Enforcement?</title>
	<author>Jesus\_666</author>
	<datestamp>1259607960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I still think we should apply regular law to companies. Jail term? We just downgrade the time units one step (years -&gt; months -&gt; weeks -&gt; days) and disallow them from doing any business during that time. Suddenly we have a deterrent against them. Life sentence/life jail term? Break them up as per antitrust laws or (if that isn't possible) have their assets auctioned off. Community service? Something like forcing them to offer free service for the specified tome or something.<br>
<br>
And, of course, three copyright violations mean no internet anymore (one could allow them an internet presence if it's run by a third party and doesn't allow the visitor to do business with them). They can still use snail mail, fax and telephone. Or, more likely, lobby for a law change. (Unfortunately, the law they'd lobby against wouldn't be the three strikes law.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I still think we should apply regular law to companies .
Jail term ?
We just downgrade the time units one step ( years - &gt; months - &gt; weeks - &gt; days ) and disallow them from doing any business during that time .
Suddenly we have a deterrent against them .
Life sentence/life jail term ?
Break them up as per antitrust laws or ( if that is n't possible ) have their assets auctioned off .
Community service ?
Something like forcing them to offer free service for the specified tome or something .
And , of course , three copyright violations mean no internet anymore ( one could allow them an internet presence if it 's run by a third party and does n't allow the visitor to do business with them ) .
They can still use snail mail , fax and telephone .
Or , more likely , lobby for a law change .
( Unfortunately , the law they 'd lobby against would n't be the three strikes law .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still think we should apply regular law to companies.
Jail term?
We just downgrade the time units one step (years -&gt; months -&gt; weeks -&gt; days) and disallow them from doing any business during that time.
Suddenly we have a deterrent against them.
Life sentence/life jail term?
Break them up as per antitrust laws or (if that isn't possible) have their assets auctioned off.
Community service?
Something like forcing them to offer free service for the specified tome or something.
And, of course, three copyright violations mean no internet anymore (one could allow them an internet presence if it's run by a third party and doesn't allow the visitor to do business with them).
They can still use snail mail, fax and telephone.
Or, more likely, lobby for a law change.
(Unfortunately, the law they'd lobby against wouldn't be the three strikes law.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271052</id>
	<title>FP</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259603100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>FP!</htmltext>
<tokenext>FP !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FP!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30273158</id>
	<title>Re:A Plea to the Rest-of-the-World</title>
	<author>Late Adopter</author>
	<datestamp>1259613300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I suppose it's different in parliamentary systems, but in the US, I vote for the President to represent me, and to lead the executive branch.  The President has subordinates, his Cabinet members, each of which has a Department of such-and-such with employees and a budget, passed by Congress.  That makes him a leader in the same way any manager or CEO is, but he doesn't lead *me*, I'm just a (very small) shareholder.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I suppose it 's different in parliamentary systems , but in the US , I vote for the President to represent me , and to lead the executive branch .
The President has subordinates , his Cabinet members , each of which has a Department of such-and-such with employees and a budget , passed by Congress .
That makes him a leader in the same way any manager or CEO is , but he does n't lead * me * , I 'm just a ( very small ) shareholder .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suppose it's different in parliamentary systems, but in the US, I vote for the President to represent me, and to lead the executive branch.
The President has subordinates, his Cabinet members, each of which has a Department of such-and-such with employees and a budget, passed by Congress.
That makes him a leader in the same way any manager or CEO is, but he doesn't lead *me*, I'm just a (very small) shareholder.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271482</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271376</id>
	<title>Let's shoot it down.</title>
	<author>El Jynx</author>
	<datestamp>1259604660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>By all means, let's get writing, mailing, whatever. Set up a petition, a FB group and spam our MP's silly. I'm just a little vague on who to reach. Anyone with experience got some contact info for the various member states (EU, Canada, NZ, etc etc)?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>By all means , let 's get writing , mailing , whatever .
Set up a petition , a FB group and spam our MP 's silly .
I 'm just a little vague on who to reach .
Anyone with experience got some contact info for the various member states ( EU , Canada , NZ , etc etc ) ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By all means, let's get writing, mailing, whatever.
Set up a petition, a FB group and spam our MP's silly.
I'm just a little vague on who to reach.
Anyone with experience got some contact info for the various member states (EU, Canada, NZ, etc etc)?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30272238</id>
	<title>Re:A Plea to the Rest-of-the-World</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259608560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The US hasnt had a third party winning somwhere since more than 100 years.</p><p>Jessie the Body Ventura.  Governor of Minnesota for...REFORM Party.  Ok, so Minnesota is really nowhere, still, they do have the Mall of America.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The US hasnt had a third party winning somwhere since more than 100 years.Jessie the Body Ventura .
Governor of Minnesota for...REFORM Party .
Ok , so Minnesota is really nowhere , still , they do have the Mall of America .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The US hasnt had a third party winning somwhere since more than 100 years.Jessie the Body Ventura.
Governor of Minnesota for...REFORM Party.
Ok, so Minnesota is really nowhere, still, they do have the Mall of America.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271534</id>
	<title>Re:DOA in the US Senate</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259605380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What passes as "far left" in the US is actually center-right.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What passes as " far left " in the US is actually center-right .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What passes as "far left" in the US is actually center-right.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271392</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30277648</id>
	<title>Re:</title>
	<author>clint999</author>
	<datestamp>1259587800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><strong>I don't think this treaty would pass in the US Senate.  I would forsee the unlikely coalition of far rightists and far leftists actually collaborating to defeat this, just as they actually have on some other things.</strong></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think this treaty would pass in the US Senate .
I would forsee the unlikely coalition of far rightists and far leftists actually collaborating to defeat this , just as they actually have on some other things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think this treaty would pass in the US Senate.
I would forsee the unlikely coalition of far rightists and far leftists actually collaborating to defeat this, just as they actually have on some other things.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30274122</id>
	<title>Re: A 3rd Party to the Rescue?</title>
	<author>gink1</author>
	<datestamp>1259573280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not the two party system that is the problem it's something that both parties (and even hypothetical 3rd parties) have in common: greed.</p><p>Our politicians are almost all for sale to the highest bidder - typically rich Corporations with agendas that will usually harm Americans.</p><p>For a million dollars or more the politician becomes the full time servant of their new Corporate masters and stops serving the Citizens.</p><p>Note that this problem is insolvable since the politicians would have to approve of any solutions!</p><p>As far as support for the MAFIAA, it all depends on how much cash they have doesn't it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not the two party system that is the problem it 's something that both parties ( and even hypothetical 3rd parties ) have in common : greed.Our politicians are almost all for sale to the highest bidder - typically rich Corporations with agendas that will usually harm Americans.For a million dollars or more the politician becomes the full time servant of their new Corporate masters and stops serving the Citizens.Note that this problem is insolvable since the politicians would have to approve of any solutions ! As far as support for the MAFIAA , it all depends on how much cash they have does n't it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not the two party system that is the problem it's something that both parties (and even hypothetical 3rd parties) have in common: greed.Our politicians are almost all for sale to the highest bidder - typically rich Corporations with agendas that will usually harm Americans.For a million dollars or more the politician becomes the full time servant of their new Corporate masters and stops serving the Citizens.Note that this problem is insolvable since the politicians would have to approve of any solutions!As far as support for the MAFIAA, it all depends on how much cash they have doesn't it?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271634</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271314</id>
	<title>Re:Means nothing.</title>
	<author>Anonymous Brave Guy</author>
	<datestamp>1259604300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People like you are as much a problem as Big Media's absurd power grabs. You are unashamedly breaking the law, which makes you the poster boy for Big Media when they are pushing for ever more extreme laws. And while you will deserve it if you ever get screwed by those laws, lots of people will wind up suffering through no fault of their own if these measures go through.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People like you are as much a problem as Big Media 's absurd power grabs .
You are unashamedly breaking the law , which makes you the poster boy for Big Media when they are pushing for ever more extreme laws .
And while you will deserve it if you ever get screwed by those laws , lots of people will wind up suffering through no fault of their own if these measures go through .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People like you are as much a problem as Big Media's absurd power grabs.
You are unashamedly breaking the law, which makes you the poster boy for Big Media when they are pushing for ever more extreme laws.
And while you will deserve it if you ever get screwed by those laws, lots of people will wind up suffering through no fault of their own if these measures go through.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271122</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271482</id>
	<title>Re:A Plea to the Rest-of-the-World</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259605140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> would you please, PLEASE restrain my country's insane leaders?</p></div><p>We'd love to, but right now we're having trouble restraining our own insane leaders.  I'm not sure quite how we ended up with leaders - I thought I was voting for people to represent me, not lead me.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>would you please , PLEASE restrain my country 's insane leaders ? We 'd love to , but right now we 're having trouble restraining our own insane leaders .
I 'm not sure quite how we ended up with leaders - I thought I was voting for people to represent me , not lead me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> would you please, PLEASE restrain my country's insane leaders?We'd love to, but right now we're having trouble restraining our own insane leaders.
I'm not sure quite how we ended up with leaders - I thought I was voting for people to represent me, not lead me.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271194</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30272410</id>
	<title>Re:look at the growth of disk space for $100</title>
	<author>Abreu</author>
	<datestamp>1259609280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Too bad that by then, movies will come in 1.5TB holographic discs with gigapixel resolution, three hours of previous and advertisements and subtitles and audio in every major language in Earth.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Too bad that by then , movies will come in 1.5TB holographic discs with gigapixel resolution , three hours of previous and advertisements and subtitles and audio in every major language in Earth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Too bad that by then, movies will come in 1.5TB holographic discs with gigapixel resolution, three hours of previous and advertisements and subtitles and audio in every major language in Earth.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271446</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271262</id>
	<title>thousands of government bureaucrats</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259604000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>versus</p><p>millions of teenagers who are<br>1. technologically astute<br>2. media hungry<br>3. POOR</p><p>let them pass any goddamn law they want. who fucking cares?</p><p>its nothing more than damage to route around, like the internet was designed to do</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>versusmillions of teenagers who are1 .
technologically astute2 .
media hungry3 .
POORlet them pass any goddamn law they want .
who fucking cares ? its nothing more than damage to route around , like the internet was designed to do</tokentext>
<sentencetext>versusmillions of teenagers who are1.
technologically astute2.
media hungry3.
POORlet them pass any goddamn law they want.
who fucking cares?its nothing more than damage to route around, like the internet was designed to do</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30276540</id>
	<title>is this going to far?</title>
	<author>gamecrusader</author>
	<datestamp>1259582340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now it seems, on top of everything else relating to copyrights and patents, many totally messed up, why now push our corrupt and broken system on to the rest of the world?<br>where is the correctness of this? why does the world want to have to deal with the policies, that obviously don't seem to work at all in the U.S. make the world have to deal with this junk to put it mildly, at least before this junk was created the world had more freedom in this realm of topic,<br>whats next some one decides to copyright the national anthem, any other thing that belonged to everyone not just to a hoarding, pigheaded person. What is the world coming to.... (bangs head on wall) Why? Why?</p><p>What will this lead to possible war in the future caused by the unrest, and troubles of the world, with all the current issues stacked on top ?</p><p>Will this lead to more civil unrest, and the world loosing more confidence, just causing everyone problems because the U.S. is now pushing more laws on the rest of the world, enforcing the rest of the world, will we loose more allies, and trust, but of course we will?</p><p>How can these government be able to enforce these new regulations? you can't its just to big of a task more money getting waisted on enforcing an impossible task of multiple countries, let me guesss, the music industry is behind it.</p><p>How many more of these regulations will they create, how far will they go before they just go to far take away more rights of the peoples of this world?</p><p>When will it come to mass civil unrest?</p><p>I see the point of this, cut down on piracy, but what is the government doing, yes its good they are cracking down on piracy but shouldn't individual countries enforce no piracy laws on a country by country basis? not by a complete coverage.<br>Isn't there a flaw in this great plan, enforcing this compeletly, is like just dropping money into a vast black deep hole with no bottom, money just getting poured waisted on a task no one country or countries can stop, after all there are several billion people in the world and there are only so many governments, theres no way to enforce this.<br>Why are we spending time on resources on a problem that will always be there, and no way to stop it.<br>Couldn't each country, be responsible to keep piracy under control in their own country. Multiple countries working together is a great thing yes, but when faced with a task as large as what the U.S. has in mind isn't it way way way to big a task to complete it?<br>A broad single method to stop piracy in the world 3 strikes and your out, I can't see it working for the rest of the world, each country is different, each country has their own government and each government work in their own way, no single plan can work with total success, The only thing that can prevent piracy, is if every country creates and uses their own method of piracy prevention, after all more ground can be covered if there are many seperate methods, as every country isn't exactly like the U.S. how could this single method work, after all you can't stop it unless every country in the world were to use this soul method, and I mean EVERY COUNTRY in the world, which would never happen</p><p>I predict this won't work at all, billions of people millions of acts of internet piracy every day, it can't be stopped, only with every country in the world, including china, among many others,</p><p>besides, our system is a failure, a joke, and companies, and people abuse the system in this country, don't bring it apon the rest of the world, let them stand a better chance and let them handle their own problems.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now it seems , on top of everything else relating to copyrights and patents , many totally messed up , why now push our corrupt and broken system on to the rest of the world ? where is the correctness of this ?
why does the world want to have to deal with the policies , that obviously do n't seem to work at all in the U.S. make the world have to deal with this junk to put it mildly , at least before this junk was created the world had more freedom in this realm of topic,whats next some one decides to copyright the national anthem , any other thing that belonged to everyone not just to a hoarding , pigheaded person .
What is the world coming to.... ( bangs head on wall ) Why ?
Why ? What will this lead to possible war in the future caused by the unrest , and troubles of the world , with all the current issues stacked on top ? Will this lead to more civil unrest , and the world loosing more confidence , just causing everyone problems because the U.S. is now pushing more laws on the rest of the world , enforcing the rest of the world , will we loose more allies , and trust , but of course we will ? How can these government be able to enforce these new regulations ?
you ca n't its just to big of a task more money getting waisted on enforcing an impossible task of multiple countries , let me guesss , the music industry is behind it.How many more of these regulations will they create , how far will they go before they just go to far take away more rights of the peoples of this world ? When will it come to mass civil unrest ? I see the point of this , cut down on piracy , but what is the government doing , yes its good they are cracking down on piracy but should n't individual countries enforce no piracy laws on a country by country basis ?
not by a complete coverage.Is n't there a flaw in this great plan , enforcing this compeletly , is like just dropping money into a vast black deep hole with no bottom , money just getting poured waisted on a task no one country or countries can stop , after all there are several billion people in the world and there are only so many governments , theres no way to enforce this.Why are we spending time on resources on a problem that will always be there , and no way to stop it.Could n't each country , be responsible to keep piracy under control in their own country .
Multiple countries working together is a great thing yes , but when faced with a task as large as what the U.S. has in mind is n't it way way way to big a task to complete it ? A broad single method to stop piracy in the world 3 strikes and your out , I ca n't see it working for the rest of the world , each country is different , each country has their own government and each government work in their own way , no single plan can work with total success , The only thing that can prevent piracy , is if every country creates and uses their own method of piracy prevention , after all more ground can be covered if there are many seperate methods , as every country is n't exactly like the U.S. how could this single method work , after all you ca n't stop it unless every country in the world were to use this soul method , and I mean EVERY COUNTRY in the world , which would never happenI predict this wo n't work at all , billions of people millions of acts of internet piracy every day , it ca n't be stopped , only with every country in the world , including china , among many others,besides , our system is a failure , a joke , and companies , and people abuse the system in this country , do n't bring it apon the rest of the world , let them stand a better chance and let them handle their own problems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now it seems, on top of everything else relating to copyrights and patents, many totally messed up, why now push our corrupt and broken system on to the rest of the world?where is the correctness of this?
why does the world want to have to deal with the policies, that obviously don't seem to work at all in the U.S. make the world have to deal with this junk to put it mildly, at least before this junk was created the world had more freedom in this realm of topic,whats next some one decides to copyright the national anthem, any other thing that belonged to everyone not just to a hoarding, pigheaded person.
What is the world coming to.... (bangs head on wall) Why?
Why?What will this lead to possible war in the future caused by the unrest, and troubles of the world, with all the current issues stacked on top ?Will this lead to more civil unrest, and the world loosing more confidence, just causing everyone problems because the U.S. is now pushing more laws on the rest of the world, enforcing the rest of the world, will we loose more allies, and trust, but of course we will?How can these government be able to enforce these new regulations?
you can't its just to big of a task more money getting waisted on enforcing an impossible task of multiple countries, let me guesss, the music industry is behind it.How many more of these regulations will they create, how far will they go before they just go to far take away more rights of the peoples of this world?When will it come to mass civil unrest?I see the point of this, cut down on piracy, but what is the government doing, yes its good they are cracking down on piracy but shouldn't individual countries enforce no piracy laws on a country by country basis?
not by a complete coverage.Isn't there a flaw in this great plan, enforcing this compeletly, is like just dropping money into a vast black deep hole with no bottom, money just getting poured waisted on a task no one country or countries can stop, after all there are several billion people in the world and there are only so many governments, theres no way to enforce this.Why are we spending time on resources on a problem that will always be there, and no way to stop it.Couldn't each country, be responsible to keep piracy under control in their own country.
Multiple countries working together is a great thing yes, but when faced with a task as large as what the U.S. has in mind isn't it way way way to big a task to complete it?A broad single method to stop piracy in the world 3 strikes and your out, I can't see it working for the rest of the world, each country is different, each country has their own government and each government work in their own way, no single plan can work with total success, The only thing that can prevent piracy, is if every country creates and uses their own method of piracy prevention, after all more ground can be covered if there are many seperate methods, as every country isn't exactly like the U.S. how could this single method work, after all you can't stop it unless every country in the world were to use this soul method, and I mean EVERY COUNTRY in the world, which would never happenI predict this won't work at all, billions of people millions of acts of internet piracy every day, it can't be stopped, only with every country in the world, including china, among many others,besides, our system is a failure, a joke, and companies, and people abuse the system in this country, don't bring it apon the rest of the world, let them stand a better chance and let them handle their own problems.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271074</id>
	<title>DOA in the US Senate</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259603220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't think this treaty would pass in the US Senate.  I would forsee the unlikely coalition of far rightists and far leftists actually collaborating to defeat this, just as they actually have on some other things.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think this treaty would pass in the US Senate .
I would forsee the unlikely coalition of far rightists and far leftists actually collaborating to defeat this , just as they actually have on some other things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think this treaty would pass in the US Senate.
I would forsee the unlikely coalition of far rightists and far leftists actually collaborating to defeat this, just as they actually have on some other things.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271118</id>
	<title>Re:Global government</title>
	<author>Yvanhoe</author>
	<datestamp>1259603400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>s/US citizen/worldwide consumers of cultural products/</htmltext>
<tokenext>s/US citizen/worldwide consumers of cultural products/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>s/US citizen/worldwide consumers of cultural products/</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271044</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271478</id>
	<title>Equal Enforcement?</title>
	<author>r\_jensen11</author>
	<datestamp>1259605140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just for curiosity's sake, could we ensure the following if these laws get passed?</p><p>Company A becomes convicted of copyright infringement 3 times<br>Company A loses permanent access to the internet</p><p>I'm sure that Time Warner, Sony, et. al. have all been convicted of copyright infringement at least 3 times.  Can we have their access to the internet permanently revoked?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just for curiosity 's sake , could we ensure the following if these laws get passed ? Company A becomes convicted of copyright infringement 3 timesCompany A loses permanent access to the internetI 'm sure that Time Warner , Sony , et .
al. have all been convicted of copyright infringement at least 3 times .
Can we have their access to the internet permanently revoked ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just for curiosity's sake, could we ensure the following if these laws get passed?Company A becomes convicted of copyright infringement 3 timesCompany A loses permanent access to the internetI'm sure that Time Warner, Sony, et.
al. have all been convicted of copyright infringement at least 3 times.
Can we have their access to the internet permanently revoked?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271350</id>
	<title>On intellectual property..</title>
	<author>snsr</author>
	<datestamp>1259604420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>ACTA is a fucking steaming pile of shit. A "trademark treaty" written by corporations, and intended only to protect the "copyrights" of said corporations.</p><p> <em>A property right is a positive right: it gives you the freedom to use, sell, etc. something you own. These are rights governments must protect, by preventing activities (such as theft or vandalism) that would endanger them.</em> </p><p> <em>A copyright is an entirely negative right: it gives you no new freedoms, merely the ability to prevent others from something they would otherwise be allowed to do. It gives one individual (the copyright holder) full control of a whole market (the sale of their writing). This is a monopoly, something governments must protect us from.</em> </p><p> <em>
Copyright is not a natural right, but merely an outdated invention from the era of the printing press. To call copyrighted works &ldquo;intellectual property&rdquo; corrupts thought, by subjecting those who want to replace the invention with a more effective one to nonsensical claims of &ldquo;you&rsquo;re stealing my property&rdquo;. <br>-Aaron Swartz</em></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>ACTA is a fucking steaming pile of shit .
A " trademark treaty " written by corporations , and intended only to protect the " copyrights " of said corporations .
A property right is a positive right : it gives you the freedom to use , sell , etc .
something you own .
These are rights governments must protect , by preventing activities ( such as theft or vandalism ) that would endanger them .
A copyright is an entirely negative right : it gives you no new freedoms , merely the ability to prevent others from something they would otherwise be allowed to do .
It gives one individual ( the copyright holder ) full control of a whole market ( the sale of their writing ) .
This is a monopoly , something governments must protect us from .
Copyright is not a natural right , but merely an outdated invention from the era of the printing press .
To call copyrighted works    intellectual property    corrupts thought , by subjecting those who want to replace the invention with a more effective one to nonsensical claims of    you    re stealing my property    .
-Aaron Swartz</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ACTA is a fucking steaming pile of shit.
A "trademark treaty" written by corporations, and intended only to protect the "copyrights" of said corporations.
A property right is a positive right: it gives you the freedom to use, sell, etc.
something you own.
These are rights governments must protect, by preventing activities (such as theft or vandalism) that would endanger them.
A copyright is an entirely negative right: it gives you no new freedoms, merely the ability to prevent others from something they would otherwise be allowed to do.
It gives one individual (the copyright holder) full control of a whole market (the sale of their writing).
This is a monopoly, something governments must protect us from.
Copyright is not a natural right, but merely an outdated invention from the era of the printing press.
To call copyrighted works “intellectual property” corrupts thought, by subjecting those who want to replace the invention with a more effective one to nonsensical claims of “you’re stealing my property”.
-Aaron Swartz</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30272466</id>
	<title>Re: Time to improve on TOR / Freenet</title>
	<author>Abreu</author>
	<datestamp>1259609520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now is the time to start financing the guys who work on the TOR and Freenet protocols</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now is the time to start financing the guys who work on the TOR and Freenet protocols</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now is the time to start financing the guys who work on the TOR and Freenet protocols</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271044</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30272662</id>
	<title>Re:3 strikes - how to enforce?</title>
	<author>Shagg</author>
	<datestamp>1259610720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're assuming that all laws are enforceable, let alone even make sense.  The primary purpose of passing this would be to qualify for the payout that the content industry is offering.  Whether or not it would be effect isn't something the government really cares about.  They're just satisfying the whims of the industry.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're assuming that all laws are enforceable , let alone even make sense .
The primary purpose of passing this would be to qualify for the payout that the content industry is offering .
Whether or not it would be effect is n't something the government really cares about .
They 're just satisfying the whims of the industry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're assuming that all laws are enforceable, let alone even make sense.
The primary purpose of passing this would be to qualify for the payout that the content industry is offering.
Whether or not it would be effect isn't something the government really cares about.
They're just satisfying the whims of the industry.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271260</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30278774</id>
	<title>Re:Global government</title>
	<author>gamecrusader</author>
	<datestamp>1259597400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>what i mean by firestorm, from looking around, this isn't known then again, i can't cover everywhere in a few hours. I don't see petitions, among other different forms of legal protesting<br>though i mean both sides of the Atlantic and Pacific,and messages going out to every person with powerfull positions, including the U.N. we get their support, it means we may have many other countries, but that sadly, isn't going to happen in a few days, nor weeks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>what i mean by firestorm , from looking around , this is n't known then again , i ca n't cover everywhere in a few hours .
I do n't see petitions , among other different forms of legal protestingthough i mean both sides of the Atlantic and Pacific,and messages going out to every person with powerfull positions , including the U.N. we get their support , it means we may have many other countries , but that sadly , is n't going to happen in a few days , nor weeks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what i mean by firestorm, from looking around, this isn't known then again, i can't cover everywhere in a few hours.
I don't see petitions, among other different forms of legal protestingthough i mean both sides of the Atlantic and Pacific,and messages going out to every person with powerfull positions, including the U.N. we get their support, it means we may have many other countries, but that sadly, isn't going to happen in a few days, nor weeks.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271044</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30272026</id>
	<title>Re:Means nothing.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259607540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Nah, these laws are a very recent phenomena. I think if you put copyright in the context of entire world history you'll see that great works of art were also produced in times when there was no copyright. A lot of our intellectual property laws, especially those concerning patents, are descended only recently from Elizabethan English law where the monarch granted trading monopolies and guilds were formed to eliminate competition.
<br> <br>
You think Homer wouldn't have written The Odyssey if they'd been no copyright? Oh wait<nobr> <wbr></nobr>......
<br> <br>
If it's human nature to produce great works of art (including music) people are gonna do it regardless.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nah , these laws are a very recent phenomena .
I think if you put copyright in the context of entire world history you 'll see that great works of art were also produced in times when there was no copyright .
A lot of our intellectual property laws , especially those concerning patents , are descended only recently from Elizabethan English law where the monarch granted trading monopolies and guilds were formed to eliminate competition .
You think Homer would n't have written The Odyssey if they 'd been no copyright ?
Oh wait ..... . If it 's human nature to produce great works of art ( including music ) people are gon na do it regardless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nah, these laws are a very recent phenomena.
I think if you put copyright in the context of entire world history you'll see that great works of art were also produced in times when there was no copyright.
A lot of our intellectual property laws, especially those concerning patents, are descended only recently from Elizabethan English law where the monarch granted trading monopolies and guilds were formed to eliminate competition.
You think Homer wouldn't have written The Odyssey if they'd been no copyright?
Oh wait ......
 
If it's human nature to produce great works of art (including music) people are gonna do it regardless.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271452</id>
	<title>Basis in law?</title>
	<author>devnullkac</author>
	<datestamp>1259605020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought the whole point of ACTA as a secret agreement was that it could be implemented by merely tweaking enforcement of existing law.  I know of no element of US law that supports the 3 strikes notion.  If Congress won't play ball, ACTA could fall apart no matter what the various international executive branches agree to.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought the whole point of ACTA as a secret agreement was that it could be implemented by merely tweaking enforcement of existing law .
I know of no element of US law that supports the 3 strikes notion .
If Congress wo n't play ball , ACTA could fall apart no matter what the various international executive branches agree to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought the whole point of ACTA as a secret agreement was that it could be implemented by merely tweaking enforcement of existing law.
I know of no element of US law that supports the 3 strikes notion.
If Congress won't play ball, ACTA could fall apart no matter what the various international executive branches agree to.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30273560</id>
	<title>Re:A Plea to the Rest-of-the-World</title>
	<author>TheDarkMaster</author>
	<datestamp>1259614680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They can try to force the DCMA here... But will do not back... alive. This goes too far for me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They can try to force the DCMA here... But will do not back... alive. This goes too far for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They can try to force the DCMA here... But will do not back... alive. This goes too far for me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271194</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271096</id>
	<title>Everyone needs one.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259603340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good thing we now have hand mounted flamethrowers. Now when they try to take us away for watching a clip with some random song we can burn them to ashes!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good thing we now have hand mounted flamethrowers .
Now when they try to take us away for watching a clip with some random song we can burn them to ashes !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good thing we now have hand mounted flamethrowers.
Now when they try to take us away for watching a clip with some random song we can burn them to ashes!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30276820</id>
	<title>Re:Equal Enforcement?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259583540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Convicted? Who said anything about being convicted? The "3 strikes" name is designed to conjure up notions of conviction as it was originally used as a name for 3 convictions equal harshest penalty legislation.</p><p>However now it means 3 <b>accusations</b>.</p><p>In answer to your question however: No, big multinationals will never be subject to any copyright punishment designed to police individuals. Not unless they really piss off the MAFIAA and their own cartel cant protect them from it. There is no equal enforcement in corporate law buying.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Convicted ?
Who said anything about being convicted ?
The " 3 strikes " name is designed to conjure up notions of conviction as it was originally used as a name for 3 convictions equal harshest penalty legislation.However now it means 3 accusations.In answer to your question however : No , big multinationals will never be subject to any copyright punishment designed to police individuals .
Not unless they really piss off the MAFIAA and their own cartel cant protect them from it .
There is no equal enforcement in corporate law buying .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Convicted?
Who said anything about being convicted?
The "3 strikes" name is designed to conjure up notions of conviction as it was originally used as a name for 3 convictions equal harshest penalty legislation.However now it means 3 accusations.In answer to your question however: No, big multinationals will never be subject to any copyright punishment designed to police individuals.
Not unless they really piss off the MAFIAA and their own cartel cant protect them from it.
There is no equal enforcement in corporate law buying.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271478</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271260</id>
	<title>3 strikes - how to enforce?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259604000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So say you get kicked off the net - how do they enforce this? Just off the top of my head I can think of a dozen ways to browse the net semi-anonymously (coffee shop, library, college, neighbors wi-fi etc etc). Not to mention having internet access at work - does that mean I'd be denied employment world-wide for messing around on the net?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So say you get kicked off the net - how do they enforce this ?
Just off the top of my head I can think of a dozen ways to browse the net semi-anonymously ( coffee shop , library , college , neighbors wi-fi etc etc ) .
Not to mention having internet access at work - does that mean I 'd be denied employment world-wide for messing around on the net ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So say you get kicked off the net - how do they enforce this?
Just off the top of my head I can think of a dozen ways to browse the net semi-anonymously (coffee shop, library, college, neighbors wi-fi etc etc).
Not to mention having internet access at work - does that mean I'd be denied employment world-wide for messing around on the net?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271200</id>
	<title>Re:Global government</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259603760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Global government led by the failing USA?<br>
<br>
Strange how both the crooked EU and USA have kept this quiet....
<br>
<a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/30/swift\_tftp/" title="theregister.co.uk">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/30/swift\_tftp/</a> [theregister.co.uk] <p><div class="quote"><p>European home affairs ministers are today set to approve a transatlantic deal that will see them turn reams of private banking data over to US intelligence.

</p><p>The expected approval signals a remarkable diplomatic victory for Washington. The European Commission and the US had previously clashed over the Terrorist Finance Tracking Programme (TFTP).</p><p>

TFTP began in secret following the 9/11 terror attacks. It allows US authorities to monitor SWIFT, the Belgian company that acts as clearing house for millions of daily transactions between European banks.</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Global government led by the failing USA ?
Strange how both the crooked EU and USA have kept this quiet... . http : //www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/30/swift \ _tftp/ [ theregister.co.uk ] European home affairs ministers are today set to approve a transatlantic deal that will see them turn reams of private banking data over to US intelligence .
The expected approval signals a remarkable diplomatic victory for Washington .
The European Commission and the US had previously clashed over the Terrorist Finance Tracking Programme ( TFTP ) .
TFTP began in secret following the 9/11 terror attacks .
It allows US authorities to monitor SWIFT , the Belgian company that acts as clearing house for millions of daily transactions between European banks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Global government led by the failing USA?
Strange how both the crooked EU and USA have kept this quiet....

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/30/swift\_tftp/ [theregister.co.uk] European home affairs ministers are today set to approve a transatlantic deal that will see them turn reams of private banking data over to US intelligence.
The expected approval signals a remarkable diplomatic victory for Washington.
The European Commission and the US had previously clashed over the Terrorist Finance Tracking Programme (TFTP).
TFTP began in secret following the 9/11 terror attacks.
It allows US authorities to monitor SWIFT, the Belgian company that acts as clearing house for millions of daily transactions between European banks.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271608</id>
	<title>Re:A Plea to the Rest-of-the-World</title>
	<author>jedidiah</author>
	<datestamp>1259605860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The rest of the world is responsible for it's own people.</p><p>Nothing can become "global law" without the cooperation of willing lackeys.</p><p>In this respect, Obama is no more responsible than Sarkozy or Berlisconi.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The rest of the world is responsible for it 's own people.Nothing can become " global law " without the cooperation of willing lackeys.In this respect , Obama is no more responsible than Sarkozy or Berlisconi .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The rest of the world is responsible for it's own people.Nothing can become "global law" without the cooperation of willing lackeys.In this respect, Obama is no more responsible than Sarkozy or Berlisconi.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271508</id>
	<title>Free Software implications...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259605260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All these comments and nobody even mentions Free Software? I guess slashdot is indeed visited by too many windoze lusers...</p><p>Read and learn <a href="http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/acta/" title="fsf.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/acta/</a> [fsf.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All these comments and nobody even mentions Free Software ?
I guess slashdot is indeed visited by too many windoze lusers...Read and learn http : //www.fsf.org/campaigns/acta/ [ fsf.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All these comments and nobody even mentions Free Software?
I guess slashdot is indeed visited by too many windoze lusers...Read and learn http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/acta/ [fsf.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30276028</id>
	<title>Re:DOA in the US Senate</title>
	<author>clint999</author>
	<datestamp>1259580600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Do it.  Make it into a law.  It's called due ****ing process.The RIAA only worked with lawsuits now because they are all CIVIL cases.If people start randomly getting arrested without due process for no reason like the RIAA randomly does with potshots, there will be hell.Make it into criminal cases.  There will be blood of executives on the streets, I guarantee it.</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do it .
Make it into a law .
It 's called due * * * * ing process.The RIAA only worked with lawsuits now because they are all CIVIL cases.If people start randomly getting arrested without due process for no reason like the RIAA randomly does with potshots , there will be hell.Make it into criminal cases .
There will be blood of executives on the streets , I guarantee it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do it.
Make it into a law.
It's called due ****ing process.The RIAA only worked with lawsuits now because they are all CIVIL cases.If people start randomly getting arrested without due process for no reason like the RIAA randomly does with potshots, there will be hell.Make it into criminal cases.
There will be blood of executives on the streets, I guarantee it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_162259.30271752</id>
	<title>Re:DOA in the US Senate</title>
	<author>cmiller173</author>
	<datestamp>1259606520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Aha, but my understanding from earlier stories is that this is not being pursued as a regular treaty but instead as an executive agreement.  Essentially the administration would agree to pursue regular legislation enacting these provisions, which only require a simple majority to pass, rather than a treaty that would require 2/3 of the senate.  I doubt that anyone currently in the senate would burn the "political capitol" to filibuster to stop these from getting to the floor.  Odds are they would break it up into a bunch of little pieces added on to other bills to get them through.

</p><p>s999 An act to provide medical devices for elderly, and other reasons*

</p><p>"Other reasons" of course equals some provision of ACTA</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Aha , but my understanding from earlier stories is that this is not being pursued as a regular treaty but instead as an executive agreement .
Essentially the administration would agree to pursue regular legislation enacting these provisions , which only require a simple majority to pass , rather than a treaty that would require 2/3 of the senate .
I doubt that anyone currently in the senate would burn the " political capitol " to filibuster to stop these from getting to the floor .
Odds are they would break it up into a bunch of little pieces added on to other bills to get them through .
s999 An act to provide medical devices for elderly , and other reasons * " Other reasons " of course equals some provision of ACTA</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Aha, but my understanding from earlier stories is that this is not being pursued as a regular treaty but instead as an executive agreement.
Essentially the administration would agree to pursue regular legislation enacting these provisions, which only require a simple majority to pass, rather than a treaty that would require 2/3 of the senate.
I doubt that anyone currently in the senate would burn the "political capitol" to filibuster to stop these from getting to the floor.
Odds are they would break it up into a bunch of little pieces added on to other bills to get them through.
s999 An act to provide medical devices for elderly, and other reasons*

"Other reasons" of course equals some provision of ACTA</sentencetext>
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