<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_30_1358241</id>
	<title>Online "Guilds" Mirror Real Life Gangs</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1259590620000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>j-beda writes <i>"In June 2009, Dr. Neil Johnson published a paper titled '<a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1103/PhysRevE.79.066117">Human group formation in online guilds and offline gangs driven by a common team dynamic</a>' in <a href="http://pre.aps.org/"> <em>Physical Review E</em></a> that found the way in which <em>WoW</em> 'guilds' form can be <a href="http://digital.asiaone.com/Digital/News/Story/A1Story20091123-181613.html">described by a mathematical model</a> that can also be applied to an unrelated group of people: street gangs in Los Angeles. Since 'Any group that satisfies these fairly autonomous, competitive criteria would also (fit the model),' said Dr. Johnson, the findings are of interest to those combating international as well as local terrorist cells."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>j-beda writes " In June 2009 , Dr. Neil Johnson published a paper titled 'Human group formation in online guilds and offline gangs driven by a common team dynamic ' in Physical Review E that found the way in which WoW 'guilds ' form can be described by a mathematical model that can also be applied to an unrelated group of people : street gangs in Los Angeles .
Since 'Any group that satisfies these fairly autonomous , competitive criteria would also ( fit the model ) , ' said Dr. Johnson , the findings are of interest to those combating international as well as local terrorist cells .
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<sentencetext>j-beda writes "In June 2009, Dr. Neil Johnson published a paper titled 'Human group formation in online guilds and offline gangs driven by a common team dynamic' in  Physical Review E that found the way in which WoW 'guilds' form can be described by a mathematical model that can also be applied to an unrelated group of people: street gangs in Los Angeles.
Since 'Any group that satisfies these fairly autonomous, competitive criteria would also (fit the model),' said Dr. Johnson, the findings are of interest to those combating international as well as local terrorist cells.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30271650</id>
	<title>All from China</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259606040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you read the article, then actually find out more about the writers of it - they're not from the USA, but rather China. Doesn't China sensor Google and turn off servers when someone has a moment of free speech, or when more than two gather in the Square before the human-crushing tanks are called in? Gotta be joking me - this harkens back to the day when the idiom "Well, he told me to so I did it"?  Just because someone offers an "opinion" DOES NOT mean it is law, a given or needs to be read or followed - it is simply just that, someone needing to finish their doctoral thesis on something that pissed them off, because maybe they always get ninja'd in WOW and now have a bad attitude.  Serves you right for calling your toon - Chen Tzu'Wan - Simply an idiotic article and a waste of time once you see who the "doctors" are. I just hope no one paid to have this "study" done.  I have a suggestion - a study to study doctor's from other countries who attempt to hack the WOW servers worldwide, that come from a country known for it's high-level of hacking (CHINA)&gt; Did you know that the CIA and FBI agents returning from China MUST destroy their laptops upon return to the USA for fear of being infiltrated with "bugs" and various nasties that could hack our internal networks???? Look it up, it's true and CNN and Fox did a piece about a month ago about it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you read the article , then actually find out more about the writers of it - they 're not from the USA , but rather China .
Does n't China sensor Google and turn off servers when someone has a moment of free speech , or when more than two gather in the Square before the human-crushing tanks are called in ?
Got ta be joking me - this harkens back to the day when the idiom " Well , he told me to so I did it " ?
Just because someone offers an " opinion " DOES NOT mean it is law , a given or needs to be read or followed - it is simply just that , someone needing to finish their doctoral thesis on something that pissed them off , because maybe they always get ninja 'd in WOW and now have a bad attitude .
Serves you right for calling your toon - Chen Tzu'Wan - Simply an idiotic article and a waste of time once you see who the " doctors " are .
I just hope no one paid to have this " study " done .
I have a suggestion - a study to study doctor 's from other countries who attempt to hack the WOW servers worldwide , that come from a country known for it 's high-level of hacking ( CHINA ) &gt; Did you know that the CIA and FBI agents returning from China MUST destroy their laptops upon return to the USA for fear of being infiltrated with " bugs " and various nasties that could hack our internal networks ? ? ? ?
Look it up , it 's true and CNN and Fox did a piece about a month ago about it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you read the article, then actually find out more about the writers of it - they're not from the USA, but rather China.
Doesn't China sensor Google and turn off servers when someone has a moment of free speech, or when more than two gather in the Square before the human-crushing tanks are called in?
Gotta be joking me - this harkens back to the day when the idiom "Well, he told me to so I did it"?
Just because someone offers an "opinion" DOES NOT mean it is law, a given or needs to be read or followed - it is simply just that, someone needing to finish their doctoral thesis on something that pissed them off, because maybe they always get ninja'd in WOW and now have a bad attitude.
Serves you right for calling your toon - Chen Tzu'Wan - Simply an idiotic article and a waste of time once you see who the "doctors" are.
I just hope no one paid to have this "study" done.
I have a suggestion - a study to study doctor's from other countries who attempt to hack the WOW servers worldwide, that come from a country known for it's high-level of hacking (CHINA)&gt; Did you know that the CIA and FBI agents returning from China MUST destroy their laptops upon return to the USA for fear of being infiltrated with "bugs" and various nasties that could hack our internal networks????
Look it up, it's true and CNN and Fox did a piece about a month ago about it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269946</id>
	<title>Re:lulz</title>
	<author>clickclickdrone</author>
	<datestamp>1259596680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>&gt;if the Fancy Lads started beef with the Crips?<br>
OK, I really need to re-educate my taste buds. I read that as something to do with lard and chips (French Fries) and my first thought was 'Mmmm... chips....'</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; if the Fancy Lads started beef with the Crips ?
OK , I really need to re-educate my taste buds .
I read that as something to do with lard and chips ( French Fries ) and my first thought was 'Mmmm... chips....'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;if the Fancy Lads started beef with the Crips?
OK, I really need to re-educate my taste buds.
I read that as something to do with lard and chips (French Fries) and my first thought was 'Mmmm... chips....'</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269768</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30271318</id>
	<title>Re:Read the abstract more carefully</title>
	<author>D Ninja</author>
	<datestamp>1259604300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Odds are your local church...organizations have initiations/hazing/etc.</p></div><p>Church Member #1: Do it.  I dare ya.<br>Initiate: Do you know what'll happen to me?!<br>CM #2: Don't be a wuss.  We all had to do it.  We're okay.<br>Initiate: No, seriously guys.  I can't.  Have you seen what happened in the movie...<br>CM #1: Indiana Jones isn't real.  Now...just drink the holy water.  DO IT!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Odds are your local church...organizations have initiations/hazing/etc.Church Member # 1 : Do it .
I dare ya.Initiate : Do you know what 'll happen to me ?
! CM # 2 : Do n't be a wuss .
We all had to do it .
We 're okay.Initiate : No , seriously guys .
I ca n't .
Have you seen what happened in the movie...CM # 1 : Indiana Jones is n't real .
Now...just drink the holy water .
DO IT !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Odds are your local church...organizations have initiations/hazing/etc.Church Member #1: Do it.
I dare ya.Initiate: Do you know what'll happen to me?
!CM #2: Don't be a wuss.
We all had to do it.
We're okay.Initiate: No, seriously guys.
I can't.
Have you seen what happened in the movie...CM #1: Indiana Jones isn't real.
Now...just drink the holy water.
DO IT!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269704</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30270264</id>
	<title>eXp8!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259598540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">teeth into when Move forward, we all know, There are About 700 faster than this</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>teeth into when Move forward , we all know , There are About 700 faster than this [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>teeth into when Move forward, we all know, There are About 700 faster than this [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30273510</id>
	<title>Re:just surprised people still play WoW</title>
	<author>Bigjeff5</author>
	<datestamp>1259614500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've just gotten into it, after resisting for years, and honestly the most fun I'm having is playing at the auction house.  I've only been playing WoW for a month or so, but in the last week or so I've learned how to work it and earned over 200 gold with a lvl 11 character.</p><p>Were I on a medium or heavily populated server I'd have made 2-3 times that much by now, it's great fun.  I'm sure I'll get tired of it when I have thousands of gold and nothing to spend it on (due to low level chars), but till then I'm having a ball.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've just gotten into it , after resisting for years , and honestly the most fun I 'm having is playing at the auction house .
I 've only been playing WoW for a month or so , but in the last week or so I 've learned how to work it and earned over 200 gold with a lvl 11 character.Were I on a medium or heavily populated server I 'd have made 2-3 times that much by now , it 's great fun .
I 'm sure I 'll get tired of it when I have thousands of gold and nothing to spend it on ( due to low level chars ) , but till then I 'm having a ball .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've just gotten into it, after resisting for years, and honestly the most fun I'm having is playing at the auction house.
I've only been playing WoW for a month or so, but in the last week or so I've learned how to work it and earned over 200 gold with a lvl 11 character.Were I on a medium or heavily populated server I'd have made 2-3 times that much by now, it's great fun.
I'm sure I'll get tired of it when I have thousands of gold and nothing to spend it on (due to low level chars), but till then I'm having a ball.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269808</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269754</id>
	<title>Teams as well</title>
	<author>T.E.D.</author>
	<datestamp>1259595240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>The relation I've noticed (being a soccer player) is with soccer teams. I've seen the exact same cycles of drama and team splits. Its just like an online guild, but in slow motion (as they don't spend as much time together in a week).</htmltext>
<tokenext>The relation I 've noticed ( being a soccer player ) is with soccer teams .
I 've seen the exact same cycles of drama and team splits .
Its just like an online guild , but in slow motion ( as they do n't spend as much time together in a week ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The relation I've noticed (being a soccer player) is with soccer teams.
I've seen the exact same cycles of drama and team splits.
Its just like an online guild, but in slow motion (as they don't spend as much time together in a week).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269748</id>
	<title>gangstas</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259595240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anyone who plays WoW is a gansta anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone who plays WoW is a gansta anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone who plays WoW is a gansta anyway.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30273142</id>
	<title>Kazzak bomb!</title>
	<author>ciganito</author>
	<datestamp>1259613180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext> I believe the author was a victim of a Kazzak Paladin bomb. Yes, indeed, wiping out most of Stormwind population... that is terrorism!

It's just like politics, when you join a political party, its nearly the same as you went to jail and pops 3 options:

- You have a strong name and did terrible things and you respected by that... keeps you out of trouble and you are free to follow your own path.
- You are a John Doe, and you join some gang so they can protect ya, but you end up enslaved by their will.
- You end up being someone's bi$\%&amp;.

This is really pathetic.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe the author was a victim of a Kazzak Paladin bomb .
Yes , indeed , wiping out most of Stormwind population... that is terrorism !
It 's just like politics , when you join a political party , its nearly the same as you went to jail and pops 3 options : - You have a strong name and did terrible things and you respected by that... keeps you out of trouble and you are free to follow your own path .
- You are a John Doe , and you join some gang so they can protect ya , but you end up enslaved by their will .
- You end up being someone 's bi $ \ % &amp; .
This is really pathetic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I believe the author was a victim of a Kazzak Paladin bomb.
Yes, indeed, wiping out most of Stormwind population... that is terrorism!
It's just like politics, when you join a political party, its nearly the same as you went to jail and pops 3 options:

- You have a strong name and did terrible things and you respected by that... keeps you out of trouble and you are free to follow your own path.
- You are a John Doe, and you join some gang so they can protect ya, but you end up enslaved by their will.
- You end up being someone's bi$\%&amp;.
This is really pathetic.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30270248</id>
	<title>other studies on group dynamics</title>
	<author>Onymous Coward</author>
	<datestamp>1259598480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You might be interested:  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robber's\_Cave\_Experiment" title="wikipedia.org">Robber's Cave Experiment</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>Another (not a scientific) study: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Third\_Wave" title="wikipedia.org">The Third Wave</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You might be interested : Robber 's Cave Experiment [ wikipedia.org ] Another ( not a scientific ) study : The Third Wave [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You might be interested:  Robber's Cave Experiment [wikipedia.org]Another (not a scientific) study: The Third Wave [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269648</id>
	<title>link to article??</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259594700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This summary is very vague. Does anyone have a link to the real article?</htmltext>
<tokenext>This summary is very vague .
Does anyone have a link to the real article ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This summary is very vague.
Does anyone have a link to the real article?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269900</id>
	<title>Read the areticle more carefully</title>
	<author>lapsed</author>
	<datestamp>1259596380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The authors are interested in the underlying <a href="http://orgtheory.wordpress.com/2009/09/17/the-two-social-sciences/" title="wordpress.com">social mechanism</a> [wordpress.com] that drives group formation.<br>
They compare two competing theories -- homophily or that like attracts like, and a theory that group formation is driven by a search for compliments -- and conclude that the latter drives group formation in *both* gangs and guilds.<br>
From the article:<p><div class="quote"><p>Specifically, we used detailed empirical data sets to show that the observed dynamics in two very distinct forms of human activity&mdash;one offline activity which is widely considered as a public threat and one online activity which is by contrast considered as relatively harmless&mdash;can be reproduced using the same, simple model of individuals seeking groups with complementary attributes; i.e., they want to form a team as opposed to seeking groups with similar attributes homophilic kinship. Just as different ethnicities may have different types of gangs in the same city in terms of their number, size, and stability, the same holds for the different computer servers on which online players play a given game.</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The authors are interested in the underlying social mechanism [ wordpress.com ] that drives group formation .
They compare two competing theories -- homophily or that like attracts like , and a theory that group formation is driven by a search for compliments -- and conclude that the latter drives group formation in * both * gangs and guilds .
From the article : Specifically , we used detailed empirical data sets to show that the observed dynamics in two very distinct forms of human activity    one offline activity which is widely considered as a public threat and one online activity which is by contrast considered as relatively harmless    can be reproduced using the same , simple model of individuals seeking groups with complementary attributes ; i.e. , they want to form a team as opposed to seeking groups with similar attributes homophilic kinship .
Just as different ethnicities may have different types of gangs in the same city in terms of their number , size , and stability , the same holds for the different computer servers on which online players play a given game .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The authors are interested in the underlying social mechanism [wordpress.com] that drives group formation.
They compare two competing theories -- homophily or that like attracts like, and a theory that group formation is driven by a search for compliments -- and conclude that the latter drives group formation in *both* gangs and guilds.
From the article:Specifically, we used detailed empirical data sets to show that the observed dynamics in two very distinct forms of human activity—one offline activity which is widely considered as a public threat and one online activity which is by contrast considered as relatively harmless—can be reproduced using the same, simple model of individuals seeking groups with complementary attributes; i.e., they want to form a team as opposed to seeking groups with similar attributes homophilic kinship.
Just as different ethnicities may have different types of gangs in the same city in terms of their number, size, and stability, the same holds for the different computer servers on which online players play a given game.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30272462</id>
	<title>Re:Wow...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259609460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You forgot to mention religion, the most powerful gangs in the world.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You forgot to mention religion , the most powerful gangs in the world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You forgot to mention religion, the most powerful gangs in the world.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269650</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30271020</id>
	<title>Street gangs are Hard Core.</title>
	<author>1\%warren</author>
	<datestamp>1259602860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"In other words, guilds bear a pretty piss-poor correlation to street gangs, compared to just about any small real-world organization."</p><p>You would have to compare street gangs to "Hard Core" guilds. They are comparing one standard deviation to the entire bell curve.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" In other words , guilds bear a pretty piss-poor correlation to street gangs , compared to just about any small real-world organization .
" You would have to compare street gangs to " Hard Core " guilds .
They are comparing one standard deviation to the entire bell curve .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"In other words, guilds bear a pretty piss-poor correlation to street gangs, compared to just about any small real-world organization.
"You would have to compare street gangs to "Hard Core" guilds.
They are comparing one standard deviation to the entire bell curve.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269704</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30270064</id>
	<title>Sarcastic question, answered honestly</title>
	<author>Crash Culligan</author>
	<datestamp>1259597460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> <b>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</b>: Did somebody just rediscover the fact that humans have been forming little social groups, sometimes partially or wholly kin-based, other times simply social, for most of their evolutionary history?</p></div></blockquote><p>No, it's been observed that people have been gathering this way for a very long time. However, there's this field of study called "sociology" which aims to figure out what makes these groups come together or fight. And your comment got me wondering just how old the field of sociology really is.</p><p>I've only just started researching, but the earliest cite I've found so far is an examination of the pre-Civil-War south. This was about the 1850s, so sociology is a young science. And it's a slow-moving, vague science, combining the touchy-feely nature of biology, the indeterminacy of quantum mechanics, and the dismalness of economics. Why, it's just like a version of theology applied to the common man.</p><p>Because it <em>is</em> a science, there are occasionally breakthroughs or discoveries. And when they happen, they get announced. And when they're announced, people either perk up or yawn and brush them aside depending upon how profitable they sound.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>fuzzyfuzzyfungus : Did somebody just rediscover the fact that humans have been forming little social groups , sometimes partially or wholly kin-based , other times simply social , for most of their evolutionary history ? No , it 's been observed that people have been gathering this way for a very long time .
However , there 's this field of study called " sociology " which aims to figure out what makes these groups come together or fight .
And your comment got me wondering just how old the field of sociology really is.I 've only just started researching , but the earliest cite I 've found so far is an examination of the pre-Civil-War south .
This was about the 1850s , so sociology is a young science .
And it 's a slow-moving , vague science , combining the touchy-feely nature of biology , the indeterminacy of quantum mechanics , and the dismalness of economics .
Why , it 's just like a version of theology applied to the common man.Because it is a science , there are occasionally breakthroughs or discoveries .
And when they happen , they get announced .
And when they 're announced , people either perk up or yawn and brush them aside depending upon how profitable they sound .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> fuzzyfuzzyfungus: Did somebody just rediscover the fact that humans have been forming little social groups, sometimes partially or wholly kin-based, other times simply social, for most of their evolutionary history?No, it's been observed that people have been gathering this way for a very long time.
However, there's this field of study called "sociology" which aims to figure out what makes these groups come together or fight.
And your comment got me wondering just how old the field of sociology really is.I've only just started researching, but the earliest cite I've found so far is an examination of the pre-Civil-War south.
This was about the 1850s, so sociology is a young science.
And it's a slow-moving, vague science, combining the touchy-feely nature of biology, the indeterminacy of quantum mechanics, and the dismalness of economics.
Why, it's just like a version of theology applied to the common man.Because it is a science, there are occasionally breakthroughs or discoveries.
And when they happen, they get announced.
And when they're announced, people either perk up or yawn and brush them aside depending upon how profitable they sound.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269650</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30272288</id>
	<title>Being a WoW player myself...</title>
	<author>Dragnl0rd</author>
	<datestamp>1259608680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've gotta wonder...

since when do LA gangs have tanks?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got ta wonder.. . since when do LA gangs have tanks ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've gotta wonder...

since when do LA gangs have tanks?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30274810</id>
	<title>Look up mirror.</title>
	<author>xmousex</author>
	<datestamp>1259576040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Online "Guilds" have a singular vague similarity to real life gangs.</p><p>fixed.</p><p>and heres the quote</p><p>"an unexpected quantitative link between them"</p><p>I do wish my mirror only displayed that much of me when i looked.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Online " Guilds " have a singular vague similarity to real life gangs.fixed.and heres the quote " an unexpected quantitative link between them " I do wish my mirror only displayed that much of me when i looked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Online "Guilds" have a singular vague similarity to real life gangs.fixed.and heres the quote"an unexpected quantitative link between them"I do wish my mirror only displayed that much of me when i looked.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30270762</id>
	<title>Re:Read the abstract more carefully</title>
	<author>Skuld-Chan</author>
	<datestamp>1259601720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One thing that is similar - some guilds (especially hard core ones) its not uncommon for members to have your contact info. Once in - its hard to step away without someone calling you and asking where you've been. You don't leave on vacation without telling them for instance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One thing that is similar - some guilds ( especially hard core ones ) its not uncommon for members to have your contact info .
Once in - its hard to step away without someone calling you and asking where you 've been .
You do n't leave on vacation without telling them for instance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One thing that is similar - some guilds (especially hard core ones) its not uncommon for members to have your contact info.
Once in - its hard to step away without someone calling you and asking where you've been.
You don't leave on vacation without telling them for instance.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269616</id>
	<title>LFG...</title>
	<author>MrRTFM</author>
	<datestamp>1259594340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Need crazy bomber - PST stats &amp; achievement (no noobs)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Need crazy bomber - PST stats &amp; achievement ( no noobs )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Need crazy bomber - PST stats &amp; achievement (no noobs)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30271722</id>
	<title>Re:Read the abstract more carefully</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259606400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And does anyone else find it academically strange that this came from a bunch of grad students in Physics?!?!?</p></div><p>What made you conclude they are a bunch of grad students in Physics?  While some of them are associated with physics departments, Dr Johnson has been a professor for 18 years. Dr Ducheneaut and Dr Yee work at PARC (Palo Alto Research Center) and are known in the field of online social interaction.  Dr. Tita is a professor of Criminology at UC Irvine.</p><p>They're not just a bunch of grad students trying to write a paper about their hobby. Though I agree that it would make a funny http://www.phdcomics.com/ cartoon.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And does anyone else find it academically strange that this came from a bunch of grad students in Physics ? ! ? !
? What made you conclude they are a bunch of grad students in Physics ?
While some of them are associated with physics departments , Dr Johnson has been a professor for 18 years .
Dr Ducheneaut and Dr Yee work at PARC ( Palo Alto Research Center ) and are known in the field of online social interaction .
Dr. Tita is a professor of Criminology at UC Irvine.They 're not just a bunch of grad students trying to write a paper about their hobby .
Though I agree that it would make a funny http : //www.phdcomics.com/ cartoon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And does anyone else find it academically strange that this came from a bunch of grad students in Physics?!?!
?What made you conclude they are a bunch of grad students in Physics?
While some of them are associated with physics departments, Dr Johnson has been a professor for 18 years.
Dr Ducheneaut and Dr Yee work at PARC (Palo Alto Research Center) and are known in the field of online social interaction.
Dr. Tita is a professor of Criminology at UC Irvine.They're not just a bunch of grad students trying to write a paper about their hobby.
Though I agree that it would make a funny http://www.phdcomics.com/ cartoon.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30274402</id>
	<title>Dunno but...</title>
	<author>itedo</author>
	<datestamp>1259574420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wouldn't pay any attention to this paper since there is a Wikipedia reference...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</p><p>It's not a flame - wikipedia isn't bad at all but it's not a solid citation. At least not for a scientific work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would n't pay any attention to this paper since there is a Wikipedia reference... : PIt 's not a flame - wikipedia is n't bad at all but it 's not a solid citation .
At least not for a scientific work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wouldn't pay any attention to this paper since there is a Wikipedia reference... :PIt's not a flame - wikipedia isn't bad at all but it's not a solid citation.
At least not for a scientific work.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30277008</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about Iraq</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259584440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In all seriousness:  What's Iraq got to do with terrorists?  Afghanistan, yeah, I get that.  Soldiers are there ostensibly to gain control of the region and reduce terrorism.  The Iraq invasion is just an oil grab.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In all seriousness : What 's Iraq got to do with terrorists ?
Afghanistan , yeah , I get that .
Soldiers are there ostensibly to gain control of the region and reduce terrorism .
The Iraq invasion is just an oil grab .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In all seriousness:  What's Iraq got to do with terrorists?
Afghanistan, yeah, I get that.
Soldiers are there ostensibly to gain control of the region and reduce terrorism.
The Iraq invasion is just an oil grab.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30271974</id>
	<title>I'm sure no one has thought of this before...</title>
	<author>Jhyrryl</author>
	<datestamp>1259607360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://www.crimecraft.com/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.crimecraft.com/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.crimecraft.com/</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269848</id>
	<title>Gangs, terrorist-cells, project teams....</title>
	<author>tomzyk</author>
	<datestamp>1259595960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, you're saying that the group of people I am working with on this data-warehousing project are also a "guild-like" (and therefore "gang-like") group?</p><p>And no, I didn't rtfa because it already sounds sensationalistic... and also because I don't feel the urge to pay to read the PDF.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , you 're saying that the group of people I am working with on this data-warehousing project are also a " guild-like " ( and therefore " gang-like " ) group ? And no , I did n't rtfa because it already sounds sensationalistic... and also because I do n't feel the urge to pay to read the PDF .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, you're saying that the group of people I am working with on this data-warehousing project are also a "guild-like" (and therefore "gang-like") group?And no, I didn't rtfa because it already sounds sensationalistic... and also because I don't feel the urge to pay to read the PDF.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30270124</id>
	<title>Re:Wow...</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1259597760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's not even that.  It's 'this game-theory based model is applicable to multiple cases of human interaction'.  Just like, for example, every other game-theory based model.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not even that .
It 's 'this game-theory based model is applicable to multiple cases of human interaction' .
Just like , for example , every other game-theory based model .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not even that.
It's 'this game-theory based model is applicable to multiple cases of human interaction'.
Just like, for example, every other game-theory based model.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30271040</id>
	<title>You are paying for beign studied</title>
	<author>chord.wav</author>
	<datestamp>1259603040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>WoW players in US cyberspace - over 76,000 were studied from June to December 2005 - are evenly divided between men and women, aged between five and 95...</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
1 - Develop MMOG<br>
2 - Get people to pay for playing and buying pixel-made goods with real money<br>
3 - Sell user behavior data to whoever wants to pay you an extra<br>
4 - Profit++</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>WoW players in US cyberspace - over 76,000 were studied from June to December 2005 - are evenly divided between men and women , aged between five and 95.. . 1 - Develop MMOG 2 - Get people to pay for playing and buying pixel-made goods with real money 3 - Sell user behavior data to whoever wants to pay you an extra 4 - Profit + +</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WoW players in US cyberspace - over 76,000 were studied from June to December 2005 - are evenly divided between men and women, aged between five and 95...

1 - Develop MMOG
2 - Get people to pay for playing and buying pixel-made goods with real money
3 - Sell user behavior data to whoever wants to pay you an extra
4 - Profit++
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30271930</id>
	<title>Yo yo!</title>
	<author>rgviza</author>
	<datestamp>1259607180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yo yo! U shoulda seen that lich mutha****a go down. I busted out my +5 holy burst repeating crossbow gat and put a S in his chest so hard his momma felt it. Me an' my homies is some bad mutha****as, terrorizin tha' Menechtarun hood.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yo yo !
U shoulda seen that lich mutha * * * * a go down .
I busted out my + 5 holy burst repeating crossbow gat and put a S in his chest so hard his momma felt it .
Me an ' my homies is some bad mutha * * * * as , terrorizin tha ' Menechtarun hood .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yo yo!
U shoulda seen that lich mutha****a go down.
I busted out my +5 holy burst repeating crossbow gat and put a S in his chest so hard his momma felt it.
Me an' my homies is some bad mutha****as, terrorizin tha' Menechtarun hood.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30277588</id>
	<title>this sounds familiar...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259587500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>wasn't there a numb3rs episode about this?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>was n't there a numb3rs episode about this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>wasn't there a numb3rs episode about this?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30270528</id>
	<title>no login to PDF</title>
	<author>Danathar</author>
	<datestamp>1259600160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Awesome....post a story that requires a login to download the PDF.</p><p>Provide a link to the file that works please</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Awesome....post a story that requires a login to download the PDF.Provide a link to the file that works please</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Awesome....post a story that requires a login to download the PDF.Provide a link to the file that works please</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30271920</id>
	<title>Phys. Rev. E??</title>
	<author>jsternbe</author>
	<datestamp>1259607180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It is kind of a interesting paper, but how in the world did it get into Physical Review?  Just because you do some statistics doesn't mean you are doing research in physics.   Shouldn't this have been sent to a sociology journal?</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is kind of a interesting paper , but how in the world did it get into Physical Review ?
Just because you do some statistics does n't mean you are doing research in physics .
Should n't this have been sent to a sociology journal ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is kind of a interesting paper, but how in the world did it get into Physical Review?
Just because you do some statistics doesn't mean you are doing research in physics.
Shouldn't this have been sent to a sociology journal?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269654</id>
	<title>Who cares about Iraq</title>
	<author>T Murphy</author>
	<datestamp>1259594700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> the findings are of interest to [those] combating international as well as local terrorist cells</p></div><p>Who cares about Iraq when I can help fight the terrorists by playing WoW all day.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>the findings are of interest to [ those ] combating international as well as local terrorist cellsWho cares about Iraq when I can help fight the terrorists by playing WoW all day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> the findings are of interest to [those] combating international as well as local terrorist cellsWho cares about Iraq when I can help fight the terrorists by playing WoW all day.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30273138</id>
	<title>Re:LFG...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259613180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Interesting.  And don't forget...</p><p>"Real Life Gangs Mirror Corporations"</p><p>It's like reporting the bloke who committed suicide to Slayer and not the hockey puck who murdered his family to Bach.</p><p>Fail!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Interesting .
And do n't forget... " Real Life Gangs Mirror Corporations " It 's like reporting the bloke who committed suicide to Slayer and not the hockey puck who murdered his family to Bach.Fail !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interesting.
And don't forget..."Real Life Gangs Mirror Corporations"It's like reporting the bloke who committed suicide to Slayer and not the hockey puck who murdered his family to Bach.Fail!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30278420</id>
	<title>Re:Ummm</title>
	<author>StuartHankins</author>
	<datestamp>1259594400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wouldn't be surprised if that were true. You ultimately have to babysit a large number of people, all with conflicting schedules and goals (ever had more than 2 ppl need an item from a run?) and somehow organize them to work together at least part of the time. I would also expect this same skill would work well when herding cats.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would n't be surprised if that were true .
You ultimately have to babysit a large number of people , all with conflicting schedules and goals ( ever had more than 2 ppl need an item from a run ?
) and somehow organize them to work together at least part of the time .
I would also expect this same skill would work well when herding cats .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wouldn't be surprised if that were true.
You ultimately have to babysit a large number of people, all with conflicting schedules and goals (ever had more than 2 ppl need an item from a run?
) and somehow organize them to work together at least part of the time.
I would also expect this same skill would work well when herding cats.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30270310</id>
	<title>Re:Read the abstract more carefully</title>
	<author>arrogance</author>
	<datestamp>1259598840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Whether or not physicists will come to valid scientific or academic conclusions on soft arts (sociology, psychology), or whether the conclusions of this study are valid, at least one of the authors is recognizable as someone with quite a bit of credibility in a nascent field. He is a contributing author at <a href="http://terranova.blogs.com/" title="blogs.com">http://terranova.blogs.com/</a> [blogs.com] where many Virtual academics reside (e.g., Edward Castranova and Richard Bartle, who are contributing to legal and sociological aspects of Virtual Worlds) and he created and maintained a (now hibernating) website, The Daedalus Project ( <a href="http://www.nickyee.com/daedalus/" title="nickyee.com">http://www.nickyee.com/daedalus/</a> [nickyee.com] ) , which explored the sociology of MMORPGs.<br> <br>

Check his bio at <a href="http://www.nickyee.com/" title="nickyee.com">http://www.nickyee.com/</a> [nickyee.com] I'd say he's worth listening to, at least WRT virtual groups. And maybe so are some of the other contributors.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Whether or not physicists will come to valid scientific or academic conclusions on soft arts ( sociology , psychology ) , or whether the conclusions of this study are valid , at least one of the authors is recognizable as someone with quite a bit of credibility in a nascent field .
He is a contributing author at http : //terranova.blogs.com/ [ blogs.com ] where many Virtual academics reside ( e.g. , Edward Castranova and Richard Bartle , who are contributing to legal and sociological aspects of Virtual Worlds ) and he created and maintained a ( now hibernating ) website , The Daedalus Project ( http : //www.nickyee.com/daedalus/ [ nickyee.com ] ) , which explored the sociology of MMORPGs .
Check his bio at http : //www.nickyee.com/ [ nickyee.com ] I 'd say he 's worth listening to , at least WRT virtual groups .
And maybe so are some of the other contributors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whether or not physicists will come to valid scientific or academic conclusions on soft arts (sociology, psychology), or whether the conclusions of this study are valid, at least one of the authors is recognizable as someone with quite a bit of credibility in a nascent field.
He is a contributing author at http://terranova.blogs.com/ [blogs.com] where many Virtual academics reside (e.g., Edward Castranova and Richard Bartle, who are contributing to legal and sociological aspects of Virtual Worlds) and he created and maintained a (now hibernating) website, The Daedalus Project ( http://www.nickyee.com/daedalus/ [nickyee.com] ) , which explored the sociology of MMORPGs.
Check his bio at http://www.nickyee.com/ [nickyee.com] I'd say he's worth listening to, at least WRT virtual groups.
And maybe so are some of the other contributors.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30274368</id>
	<title>Re:Wow...</title>
	<author>osmosium</author>
	<datestamp>1259574180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, by all means, spend more money studying something that is so obvious to anyone whos played the game.

I think I just realized, these guys are getting paid to play!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , by all means , spend more money studying something that is so obvious to anyone whos played the game .
I think I just realized , these guys are getting paid to play !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, by all means, spend more money studying something that is so obvious to anyone whos played the game.
I think I just realized, these guys are getting paid to play!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269852</id>
	<title>Re:Read the abstract more carefully</title>
	<author>eldavojohn</author>
	<datestamp>1259595960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Secondly, there are *many* more offline groups that are more closely related to street gangs in structure and practices than guilds, and no one seems too alarmist about that.</p></div><p>Huh, I didn't get a real feeling of alarmist views from this article but I could not get access to the paper.  Was there something in there calling out for the dissolution of such WoW guilds because they resemble gangs/terrorists?  I thought the point was that they could better study and predict gangs and terrorist organizations by looking at the formation, nature and qualities of online guilds?  If that's so, maybe this isn't such a bad research area and maybe Blizzard and the like should open up certain sets of data?  <br> <br>

I was a bit skeptical of the 'terrorist' claims (as I am whenever I hear that word) and it's probably just fishing for VC or funding.  But the real place I could see this helping the world is briefly mentioned in the article: Central and South American authorities have localized places that are ruled by gangs.  I've heard gang violence in Caracas is epic and it would benefit everyone to stop that from spreading.  I've also heard that El Salvadorean gangs are a real problem<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... not sure though.  From a US Nationalistic perspective, even Mexico would be nice to clean up too so the need-to-build-a-fence xenophobes shut their wordholes.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>And does anyone else find it academically strange that this came from a bunch of grad students in Physics?!?!?</p></div><p>Well, that professor runs <a href="http://web.physics.miami.edu/Research/#complexity" title="miami.edu">Complexity and Biological Physics</a> [miami.edu] which strives for life sciences applications of physics.  Now, it may sound odd but I would imagine physicists are some of the best modelers of complex systems (like atomic and chemical reactions) and honestly might be the best suited for attempting to model actors in a very large system.  I don't know, looking at Dr. Johnson's papers, <a href="http://www.physics.miami.edu/~njohnson/" title="miami.edu">he's all over the road</a> [miami.edu].  Either he's a really well diversified physicist or he's seeking for a new field to be a big fish in.  I would give him the benefit of the doubt seeing as how he's continually being published (better than most professors).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Secondly , there are * many * more offline groups that are more closely related to street gangs in structure and practices than guilds , and no one seems too alarmist about that.Huh , I did n't get a real feeling of alarmist views from this article but I could not get access to the paper .
Was there something in there calling out for the dissolution of such WoW guilds because they resemble gangs/terrorists ?
I thought the point was that they could better study and predict gangs and terrorist organizations by looking at the formation , nature and qualities of online guilds ?
If that 's so , maybe this is n't such a bad research area and maybe Blizzard and the like should open up certain sets of data ?
I was a bit skeptical of the 'terrorist ' claims ( as I am whenever I hear that word ) and it 's probably just fishing for VC or funding .
But the real place I could see this helping the world is briefly mentioned in the article : Central and South American authorities have localized places that are ruled by gangs .
I 've heard gang violence in Caracas is epic and it would benefit everyone to stop that from spreading .
I 've also heard that El Salvadorean gangs are a real problem ... not sure though .
From a US Nationalistic perspective , even Mexico would be nice to clean up too so the need-to-build-a-fence xenophobes shut their wordholes.And does anyone else find it academically strange that this came from a bunch of grad students in Physics ? ! ? !
? Well , that professor runs Complexity and Biological Physics [ miami.edu ] which strives for life sciences applications of physics .
Now , it may sound odd but I would imagine physicists are some of the best modelers of complex systems ( like atomic and chemical reactions ) and honestly might be the best suited for attempting to model actors in a very large system .
I do n't know , looking at Dr. Johnson 's papers , he 's all over the road [ miami.edu ] .
Either he 's a really well diversified physicist or he 's seeking for a new field to be a big fish in .
I would give him the benefit of the doubt seeing as how he 's continually being published ( better than most professors ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Secondly, there are *many* more offline groups that are more closely related to street gangs in structure and practices than guilds, and no one seems too alarmist about that.Huh, I didn't get a real feeling of alarmist views from this article but I could not get access to the paper.
Was there something in there calling out for the dissolution of such WoW guilds because they resemble gangs/terrorists?
I thought the point was that they could better study and predict gangs and terrorist organizations by looking at the formation, nature and qualities of online guilds?
If that's so, maybe this isn't such a bad research area and maybe Blizzard and the like should open up certain sets of data?
I was a bit skeptical of the 'terrorist' claims (as I am whenever I hear that word) and it's probably just fishing for VC or funding.
But the real place I could see this helping the world is briefly mentioned in the article: Central and South American authorities have localized places that are ruled by gangs.
I've heard gang violence in Caracas is epic and it would benefit everyone to stop that from spreading.
I've also heard that El Salvadorean gangs are a real problem ... not sure though.
From a US Nationalistic perspective, even Mexico would be nice to clean up too so the need-to-build-a-fence xenophobes shut their wordholes.And does anyone else find it academically strange that this came from a bunch of grad students in Physics?!?!
?Well, that professor runs Complexity and Biological Physics [miami.edu] which strives for life sciences applications of physics.
Now, it may sound odd but I would imagine physicists are some of the best modelers of complex systems (like atomic and chemical reactions) and honestly might be the best suited for attempting to model actors in a very large system.
I don't know, looking at Dr. Johnson's papers, he's all over the road [miami.edu].
Either he's a really well diversified physicist or he's seeking for a new field to be a big fish in.
I would give him the benefit of the doubt seeing as how he's continually being published (better than most professors).
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269706</id>
	<title>to everything, churn, churn, churn...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259594940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>dubai? do buy? boeing, boeing, gone? planet core overheating? an upside DOWn kingdumb? (no personal reference intended)</p><p>stay tuned, the lights are coming up all over now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>dubai ?
do buy ?
boeing , boeing , gone ?
planet core overheating ?
an upside DOWn kingdumb ?
( no personal reference intended ) stay tuned , the lights are coming up all over now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>dubai?
do buy?
boeing, boeing, gone?
planet core overheating?
an upside DOWn kingdumb?
(no personal reference intended)stay tuned, the lights are coming up all over now.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30295774</id>
	<title>Re:LFG...</title>
	<author>RivenAleem</author>
	<datestamp>1259585220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have gangscore of 2650, pick me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have gangscore of 2650 , pick me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have gangscore of 2650, pick me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269616</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30271568</id>
	<title>Ummmm.OK?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259605560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's see - I play WOW and love it, and so does my daughter and my younger son. We play on avg. about 4-10 hours/week (depending on raids, instance runs, PUG needs, etc).  We also use Vent to chat with the "real" people on the other end of our guild. Most if not all are married, have at least a kid or two and we all liked to play D&amp;D when we were younger. WOW has become a great outlet to really get involved in a story and team effort  - which is made possible by the basic concept of MMORPG's.  so, this article really then, suggests that because our guild is successful (over 30 LVL 80's with all purple gear) that we could also overthrow the US Govt, or stage a bank robbery, or pull helpless truckers from their rigs in broad daylight to bludgeon and then steal their trucks??? Now, I could be wrong, but perhaps "someone" perceives this as a threat in some psycho-babble, macro-ignorant ploy to undermine for their own interests, what has to be one of the greatest games I've ever played or somewhere in the food chain there's significant profit sitting somewhere.  Is it not the same to take a team of 20 boys &amp; girls and coach and mentor them in soccer, and provide a website for them to check schedules, send emails to one another and yes, fog goodness sake - get to know the other teammates more than just on the field???  What if the coach is a child molester or a socio-path???? We're talking non-present, non-physical contact - and REALLY, if I wanted to establish a terrorist organization I probably wouldn't choose WOW to start making my plans on (BTW - Blizzard watches over all and sees all\_<br>Times have changed, parents need to be more cautious and careful what happens online - but none of this even compares to the real life threat we potentiall face every day.<br>For every 1(one) case of child molestation ONLINE, there are another 20 that happen every second in REAL LIFE - so please focus your energies, your perceptions and your ignorant placement of labels elsewhere besides good natured, normal folks who like to play online.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's see - I play WOW and love it , and so does my daughter and my younger son .
We play on avg .
about 4-10 hours/week ( depending on raids , instance runs , PUG needs , etc ) .
We also use Vent to chat with the " real " people on the other end of our guild .
Most if not all are married , have at least a kid or two and we all liked to play D&amp;D when we were younger .
WOW has become a great outlet to really get involved in a story and team effort - which is made possible by the basic concept of MMORPG 's .
so , this article really then , suggests that because our guild is successful ( over 30 LVL 80 's with all purple gear ) that we could also overthrow the US Govt , or stage a bank robbery , or pull helpless truckers from their rigs in broad daylight to bludgeon and then steal their trucks ? ? ?
Now , I could be wrong , but perhaps " someone " perceives this as a threat in some psycho-babble , macro-ignorant ploy to undermine for their own interests , what has to be one of the greatest games I 've ever played or somewhere in the food chain there 's significant profit sitting somewhere .
Is it not the same to take a team of 20 boys &amp; girls and coach and mentor them in soccer , and provide a website for them to check schedules , send emails to one another and yes , fog goodness sake - get to know the other teammates more than just on the field ? ? ?
What if the coach is a child molester or a socio-path ? ? ? ?
We 're talking non-present , non-physical contact - and REALLY , if I wanted to establish a terrorist organization I probably would n't choose WOW to start making my plans on ( BTW - Blizzard watches over all and sees all \ _Times have changed , parents need to be more cautious and careful what happens online - but none of this even compares to the real life threat we potentiall face every day.For every 1 ( one ) case of child molestation ONLINE , there are another 20 that happen every second in REAL LIFE - so please focus your energies , your perceptions and your ignorant placement of labels elsewhere besides good natured , normal folks who like to play online .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's see - I play WOW and love it, and so does my daughter and my younger son.
We play on avg.
about 4-10 hours/week (depending on raids, instance runs, PUG needs, etc).
We also use Vent to chat with the "real" people on the other end of our guild.
Most if not all are married, have at least a kid or two and we all liked to play D&amp;D when we were younger.
WOW has become a great outlet to really get involved in a story and team effort  - which is made possible by the basic concept of MMORPG's.
so, this article really then, suggests that because our guild is successful (over 30 LVL 80's with all purple gear) that we could also overthrow the US Govt, or stage a bank robbery, or pull helpless truckers from their rigs in broad daylight to bludgeon and then steal their trucks???
Now, I could be wrong, but perhaps "someone" perceives this as a threat in some psycho-babble, macro-ignorant ploy to undermine for their own interests, what has to be one of the greatest games I've ever played or somewhere in the food chain there's significant profit sitting somewhere.
Is it not the same to take a team of 20 boys &amp; girls and coach and mentor them in soccer, and provide a website for them to check schedules, send emails to one another and yes, fog goodness sake - get to know the other teammates more than just on the field???
What if the coach is a child molester or a socio-path????
We're talking non-present, non-physical contact - and REALLY, if I wanted to establish a terrorist organization I probably wouldn't choose WOW to start making my plans on (BTW - Blizzard watches over all and sees all\_Times have changed, parents need to be more cautious and careful what happens online - but none of this even compares to the real life threat we potentiall face every day.For every 1(one) case of child molestation ONLINE, there are another 20 that happen every second in REAL LIFE - so please focus your energies, your perceptions and your ignorant placement of labels elsewhere besides good natured, normal folks who like to play online.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30271214</id>
	<title>Re:just surprised people still play WoW</title>
	<author>wtbname</author>
	<datestamp>1259603760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is that you Steve? Bill and I are coming over to your house, you better has some fucking answers for us.</p><p>Nobody leaves [Bloodhound Gang].</p><p>Nobody.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is that you Steve ?
Bill and I are coming over to your house , you better has some fucking answers for us.Nobody leaves [ Bloodhound Gang ] .Nobody .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is that you Steve?
Bill and I are coming over to your house, you better has some fucking answers for us.Nobody leaves [Bloodhound Gang].Nobody.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30272226</id>
	<title>Not the same</title>
	<author>PPH</author>
	<datestamp>1259608500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can't join a street gang from your mom's basement.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You ca n't join a street gang from your mom 's basement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can't join a street gang from your mom's basement.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269768</id>
	<title>lulz</title>
	<author>bistromath007</author>
	<datestamp>1259595360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Am I the only one trying to imagine what it would be like if the Fancy Lads started beef with the Crips?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Am I the only one trying to imagine what it would be like if the Fancy Lads started beef with the Crips ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I the only one trying to imagine what it would be like if the Fancy Lads started beef with the Crips?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30272324</id>
	<title>Re:LFG...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259608800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Too bad terrorist organizations aren't modelled after businesses:</p><p>Suicide Bomber (Entry Level)<br>Are you a people-oriented go-getter with a strong desire to work the competitive field of non-recurring thermal politics? Do you look at fireworks and think "That'll change people's minds"? If so, Al-Qaeda may be the place for you.</p><p>Benefits include:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; 72 virgins<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; 401k<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Competitive pay</p><p>Qualifications:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Master's Degree in hyperballistics<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; three years experience working in suicide bombing or related field.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Five years experience in use of public transportation.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Ten years experience in cartography, GPS, or similar field.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Fifteen years, oh screw it. If you don't know somebody, don't bother applying.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Too bad terrorist organizations are n't modelled after businesses : Suicide Bomber ( Entry Level ) Are you a people-oriented go-getter with a strong desire to work the competitive field of non-recurring thermal politics ?
Do you look at fireworks and think " That 'll change people 's minds " ?
If so , Al-Qaeda may be the place for you.Benefits include :     72 virgins     401k     Competitive payQualifications :     Master 's Degree in hyperballistics     three years experience working in suicide bombing or related field .
    Five years experience in use of public transportation .
    Ten years experience in cartography , GPS , or similar field .
    Fifteen years , oh screw it .
If you do n't know somebody , do n't bother applying .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Too bad terrorist organizations aren't modelled after businesses:Suicide Bomber (Entry Level)Are you a people-oriented go-getter with a strong desire to work the competitive field of non-recurring thermal politics?
Do you look at fireworks and think "That'll change people's minds"?
If so, Al-Qaeda may be the place for you.Benefits include:
    72 virgins
    401k
    Competitive payQualifications:
    Master's Degree in hyperballistics
    three years experience working in suicide bombing or related field.
    Five years experience in use of public transportation.
    Ten years experience in cartography, GPS, or similar field.
    Fifteen years, oh screw it.
If you don't know somebody, don't bother applying.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30276722</id>
	<title>Re:Using WoW to fight terrorism?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259583180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Oh well, its still better than attacking Iraq when bin Laden is in Pakistan.</p></div><p>So we should invade Pakistan next? Thank god Bush didn't see this comment before he got out of office.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh well , its still better than attacking Iraq when bin Laden is in Pakistan.So we should invade Pakistan next ?
Thank god Bush did n't see this comment before he got out of office .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh well, its still better than attacking Iraq when bin Laden is in Pakistan.So we should invade Pakistan next?
Thank god Bush didn't see this comment before he got out of office.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30271816</id>
	<title>Freakanomics</title>
	<author>Orne</author>
	<datestamp>1259606700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's funny, because <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Freakonomics-Economist-Explores-Hidden-Everything/dp/006073132X" title="amazon.com">Freakanomics</a> [amazon.com] tells us that large gangs tend to act like corporations...<p><div class="quote"><p>And so what we find when we look carefully is that the gang organization looks a whole lot like a typical corporate structure, a lot like McDonald's in some sense. And so just like McDonald's, it turns out there's a handful of guys at the top who are very successful who run the gang, who are bringing home, you know, mid to high six-figure salaries, but the 90 percent of the guys who are working in the gang are the young kids who are selling drugs on the street corner that it turns out they're getting paid roughly minimum wage for standing on the street corner and selling the drugs. -- <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4844478" title="npr.org">Steven Levitt, NPR Interview</a> [npr.org]</p> </div><p>I think EVE Online bears this out, how a loosely coupled group of independent yet incentivised players can collectively make a place for themselves in a larger social space.  Those larger groups then snap at each other for domination, and it's all the same "game" be it in virtual worlds, social worlds, or economic worlds.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's funny , because Freakanomics [ amazon.com ] tells us that large gangs tend to act like corporations...And so what we find when we look carefully is that the gang organization looks a whole lot like a typical corporate structure , a lot like McDonald 's in some sense .
And so just like McDonald 's , it turns out there 's a handful of guys at the top who are very successful who run the gang , who are bringing home , you know , mid to high six-figure salaries , but the 90 percent of the guys who are working in the gang are the young kids who are selling drugs on the street corner that it turns out they 're getting paid roughly minimum wage for standing on the street corner and selling the drugs .
-- Steven Levitt , NPR Interview [ npr.org ] I think EVE Online bears this out , how a loosely coupled group of independent yet incentivised players can collectively make a place for themselves in a larger social space .
Those larger groups then snap at each other for domination , and it 's all the same " game " be it in virtual worlds , social worlds , or economic worlds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's funny, because Freakanomics [amazon.com] tells us that large gangs tend to act like corporations...And so what we find when we look carefully is that the gang organization looks a whole lot like a typical corporate structure, a lot like McDonald's in some sense.
And so just like McDonald's, it turns out there's a handful of guys at the top who are very successful who run the gang, who are bringing home, you know, mid to high six-figure salaries, but the 90 percent of the guys who are working in the gang are the young kids who are selling drugs on the street corner that it turns out they're getting paid roughly minimum wage for standing on the street corner and selling the drugs.
-- Steven Levitt, NPR Interview [npr.org] I think EVE Online bears this out, how a loosely coupled group of independent yet incentivised players can collectively make a place for themselves in a larger social space.
Those larger groups then snap at each other for domination, and it's all the same "game" be it in virtual worlds, social worlds, or economic worlds.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30270458</id>
	<title>One Man Terrorist</title>
	<author>the\_mushroom\_king</author>
	<datestamp>1259599800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One mans terrorists is another mans raid buddy.

</p><p>Suicidesalution whispers, "Hey Xjihadcowx, wanna do ToC 25 man?"

</p><p>Xjihadcowx whispers, "Is Osama leading?"

</p><p>Suicidesalution whispers, "Nah, he at a Starbucks in Vancouver but says internet there sucks."

</p><p>Xjihadcowx whispers, "That sucks. Yeah I'll go send me an invite."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One mans terrorists is another mans raid buddy .
Suicidesalution whispers , " Hey Xjihadcowx , wan na do ToC 25 man ?
" Xjihadcowx whispers , " Is Osama leading ?
" Suicidesalution whispers , " Nah , he at a Starbucks in Vancouver but says internet there sucks .
" Xjihadcowx whispers , " That sucks .
Yeah I 'll go send me an invite .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One mans terrorists is another mans raid buddy.
Suicidesalution whispers, "Hey Xjihadcowx, wanna do ToC 25 man?
"

Xjihadcowx whispers, "Is Osama leading?
"

Suicidesalution whispers, "Nah, he at a Starbucks in Vancouver but says internet there sucks.
"

Xjihadcowx whispers, "That sucks.
Yeah I'll go send me an invite.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269694</id>
	<title>When you're a Goonswarm...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259594940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you're a goonswarm all the way, from your first corp-owned corvette to your last dying day!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you 're a goonswarm all the way , from your first corp-owned corvette to your last dying day !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you're a goonswarm all the way, from your first corp-owned corvette to your last dying day!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30272146</id>
	<title>Re:Wow...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259608140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't America itself just one really big gang?  You know we love shaking down smaller countries.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't America itself just one really big gang ?
You know we love shaking down smaller countries .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't America itself just one really big gang?
You know we love shaking down smaller countries.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30270188</id>
	<title>paper availabe at arxiv</title>
	<author>j-beda</author>
	<datestamp>1259598060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whoops - should have linked to the paper at arxiv.org:</p><p><a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/0812.2299" title="arxiv.org">http://arxiv.org/abs/0812.2299</a> [arxiv.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whoops - should have linked to the paper at arxiv.org : http : //arxiv.org/abs/0812.2299 [ arxiv.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whoops - should have linked to the paper at arxiv.org:http://arxiv.org/abs/0812.2299 [arxiv.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30272376</id>
	<title>It occurs to me...</title>
	<author>Chris Mattern</author>
	<datestamp>1259609040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...that the same parallels can be drawn between gangs and college fraternities.  But of course, it's only proper do to it with gamers' guilds, 'cause games are the evulz.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...that the same parallels can be drawn between gangs and college fraternities .
But of course , it 's only proper do to it with gamers ' guilds , 'cause games are the evulz .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...that the same parallels can be drawn between gangs and college fraternities.
But of course, it's only proper do to it with gamers' guilds, 'cause games are the evulz.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269688</id>
	<title>Using WoW to fight terrorism?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259594880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh well, its still better than attacking Iraq when bin Laden is in Pakistan.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh well , its still better than attacking Iraq when bin Laden is in Pakistan .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh well, its still better than attacking Iraq when bin Laden is in Pakistan.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269650</id>
	<title>Wow...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259594700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Did somebody just rediscover the fact that humans have been forming little social groups, sometimes partially or wholly kin-based, other times simply social, for most of their evolutionary history?<br> <br>

This isn't a "Oh, look at those gamers and gangsters and terrorists, how exotic" thing. This is how humans have operated(and to a large extent continue to operate) until the very recent rise in formalized mechanisms of social organization(and even these tend to be infested by little social cliques of various sorts, if you scratch the surface).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did somebody just rediscover the fact that humans have been forming little social groups , sometimes partially or wholly kin-based , other times simply social , for most of their evolutionary history ?
This is n't a " Oh , look at those gamers and gangsters and terrorists , how exotic " thing .
This is how humans have operated ( and to a large extent continue to operate ) until the very recent rise in formalized mechanisms of social organization ( and even these tend to be infested by little social cliques of various sorts , if you scratch the surface ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did somebody just rediscover the fact that humans have been forming little social groups, sometimes partially or wholly kin-based, other times simply social, for most of their evolutionary history?
This isn't a "Oh, look at those gamers and gangsters and terrorists, how exotic" thing.
This is how humans have operated(and to a large extent continue to operate) until the very recent rise in formalized mechanisms of social organization(and even these tend to be infested by little social cliques of various sorts, if you scratch the surface).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30281982</id>
	<title>Re:Using WoW to fight terrorism?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259675280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Oh well, its still better than attacking Iraq when bin Laden is in Pakistan.</p></div><p>And you know that because CNN said so?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:o</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh well , its still better than attacking Iraq when bin Laden is in Pakistan.And you know that because CNN said so ?
: o</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh well, its still better than attacking Iraq when bin Laden is in Pakistan.And you know that because CNN said so?
:o
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269940</id>
	<title>Re:Read the abstract more carefully</title>
	<author>bickerdyke</author>
	<datestamp>1259596620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I didn't even read the TFA, but there might be even something intresting in it.</p><p>If you can find something predictable in the behaviour in social groups that far apart as Guilds and Gangs, you might be up to something fundamental, that might allow to predict the behaviour of groups that are less well studied.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I did n't even read the TFA , but there might be even something intresting in it.If you can find something predictable in the behaviour in social groups that far apart as Guilds and Gangs , you might be up to something fundamental , that might allow to predict the behaviour of groups that are less well studied .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I didn't even read the TFA, but there might be even something intresting in it.If you can find something predictable in the behaviour in social groups that far apart as Guilds and Gangs, you might be up to something fundamental, that might allow to predict the behaviour of groups that are less well studied.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269864</id>
	<title>bad timing</title>
	<author>jmknsd</author>
	<datestamp>1259596140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have to give a presentation on a mathematical model today, and I am just now hearing about this; does anyone have a link to a paper they wrote or more information?</p><p>I googled it while previewing my comment and found a pdf presentation:<br><a href="http://carbon.videolectures.net/2009/other/ccss09\_zurich/johnson\_bnb/ccss09\_johnson\_bnb\_01.pdf" title="videolectures.net" rel="nofollow">http://carbon.videolectures.net/2009/other/ccss09\_zurich/johnson\_bnb/ccss09\_johnson\_bnb\_01.pdf</a> [videolectures.net]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to give a presentation on a mathematical model today , and I am just now hearing about this ; does anyone have a link to a paper they wrote or more information ? I googled it while previewing my comment and found a pdf presentation : http : //carbon.videolectures.net/2009/other/ccss09 \ _zurich/johnson \ _bnb/ccss09 \ _johnson \ _bnb \ _01.pdf [ videolectures.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to give a presentation on a mathematical model today, and I am just now hearing about this; does anyone have a link to a paper they wrote or more information?I googled it while previewing my comment and found a pdf presentation:http://carbon.videolectures.net/2009/other/ccss09\_zurich/johnson\_bnb/ccss09\_johnson\_bnb\_01.pdf [videolectures.net]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269704</id>
	<title>Read the abstract more carefully</title>
	<author>elrous0</author>
	<datestamp>1259594940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>First of all, the abstract acknowledges that guilds are quite UNLIKE gangs in many important respects. They are much more varied in "backgrounds, age groups, and genders" than real gangs and they are rarely based on "like-seeking" (kinship).
<p>Secondly, there are *many* more offline groups that are more closely related to street gangs in structure and practices than guilds, and no one seems too alarmist about that. Odds are your local church, your business, your college fraternity, even many of your local civic organizations have initiations/hazing/etc. that more closely resemble that of gangs than any guild I've ever been part of. And those are *certainly* more homogeneous in "backgrounds, age groups, and genders" (like most street gangs) than any WoW guild.
</p><p>In other words, guilds bear a pretty piss-poor correlation to street gangs, compared to just about any small real-world organization. I suspect the authors were either reaching here or were so hopped up on the idea of studying online guilds that they lost their way (the famous line from <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110759/" title="imdb.com">PCU</a> [imdb.com] comes to mind "You can write your thesis on Gameboy if you can bullshit well enough."). And does anyone else find it academically strange that this came from a bunch of grad students in Physics?!?!?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First of all , the abstract acknowledges that guilds are quite UNLIKE gangs in many important respects .
They are much more varied in " backgrounds , age groups , and genders " than real gangs and they are rarely based on " like-seeking " ( kinship ) .
Secondly , there are * many * more offline groups that are more closely related to street gangs in structure and practices than guilds , and no one seems too alarmist about that .
Odds are your local church , your business , your college fraternity , even many of your local civic organizations have initiations/hazing/etc .
that more closely resemble that of gangs than any guild I 've ever been part of .
And those are * certainly * more homogeneous in " backgrounds , age groups , and genders " ( like most street gangs ) than any WoW guild .
In other words , guilds bear a pretty piss-poor correlation to street gangs , compared to just about any small real-world organization .
I suspect the authors were either reaching here or were so hopped up on the idea of studying online guilds that they lost their way ( the famous line from PCU [ imdb.com ] comes to mind " You can write your thesis on Gameboy if you can bullshit well enough. " ) .
And does anyone else find it academically strange that this came from a bunch of grad students in Physics ? ! ? !
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First of all, the abstract acknowledges that guilds are quite UNLIKE gangs in many important respects.
They are much more varied in "backgrounds, age groups, and genders" than real gangs and they are rarely based on "like-seeking" (kinship).
Secondly, there are *many* more offline groups that are more closely related to street gangs in structure and practices than guilds, and no one seems too alarmist about that.
Odds are your local church, your business, your college fraternity, even many of your local civic organizations have initiations/hazing/etc.
that more closely resemble that of gangs than any guild I've ever been part of.
And those are *certainly* more homogeneous in "backgrounds, age groups, and genders" (like most street gangs) than any WoW guild.
In other words, guilds bear a pretty piss-poor correlation to street gangs, compared to just about any small real-world organization.
I suspect the authors were either reaching here or were so hopped up on the idea of studying online guilds that they lost their way (the famous line from PCU [imdb.com] comes to mind "You can write your thesis on Gameboy if you can bullshit well enough.").
And does anyone else find it academically strange that this came from a bunch of grad students in Physics?!?!
?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269664</id>
	<title>Not just gangs</title>
	<author>jaggeh</author>
	<datestamp>1259594820000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Different games can generate different models</p><p>Eve Online uses a company stucture for its guilds/clans etc</p><p>However i dont think all guilds/clans/corps will evolve the same way, thats more down to the players involved and who has their hand on the collective rudder.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Different games can generate different modelsEve Online uses a company stucture for its guilds/clans etcHowever i dont think all guilds/clans/corps will evolve the same way , thats more down to the players involved and who has their hand on the collective rudder .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Different games can generate different modelsEve Online uses a company stucture for its guilds/clans etcHowever i dont think all guilds/clans/corps will evolve the same way, thats more down to the players involved and who has their hand on the collective rudder.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30270000</id>
	<title>Re:Read the abstract more carefully</title>
	<author>Stregano</author>
	<datestamp>1259596980000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>I always knew there was something strange at the local church.  They must be a gang.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I always knew there was something strange at the local church .
They must be a gang .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I always knew there was something strange at the local church.
They must be a gang.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30270090</id>
	<title>Ummm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259597580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>So does that mean that because I was a guild leader of a high profile WoW guild, I would also be qualified to lead an LA gang?</p><p>Sure does open a whole new set of career oppertunities</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So does that mean that because I was a guild leader of a high profile WoW guild , I would also be qualified to lead an LA gang ? Sure does open a whole new set of career oppertunities</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So does that mean that because I was a guild leader of a high profile WoW guild, I would also be qualified to lead an LA gang?Sure does open a whole new set of career oppertunities</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269808</id>
	<title>just surprised people still play WoW</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259595720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Really.  I tried it again after a year off, and yeah, the graphics are great and play on ANYTHING these days, however it just doesn't have the same hold as it used to.  I'm playing Eve now, and yeah, it's grindy (all grinding, really) but it seems a bit more "adult" - maybe that's just it.  The trial for EQ2 is going well, and that even seems a bit more adult, too.</p><p>Gangs are gangs.  I've never done well in raid situations as I tend to get toned out (firefighter) for calls when we're about to enter the instance, etc.  I'm always "that guy" who goes linkdead...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Really .
I tried it again after a year off , and yeah , the graphics are great and play on ANYTHING these days , however it just does n't have the same hold as it used to .
I 'm playing Eve now , and yeah , it 's grindy ( all grinding , really ) but it seems a bit more " adult " - maybe that 's just it .
The trial for EQ2 is going well , and that even seems a bit more adult , too.Gangs are gangs .
I 've never done well in raid situations as I tend to get toned out ( firefighter ) for calls when we 're about to enter the instance , etc .
I 'm always " that guy " who goes linkdead.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really.
I tried it again after a year off, and yeah, the graphics are great and play on ANYTHING these days, however it just doesn't have the same hold as it used to.
I'm playing Eve now, and yeah, it's grindy (all grinding, really) but it seems a bit more "adult" - maybe that's just it.
The trial for EQ2 is going well, and that even seems a bit more adult, too.Gangs are gangs.
I've never done well in raid situations as I tend to get toned out (firefighter) for calls when we're about to enter the instance, etc.
I'm always "that guy" who goes linkdead...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269930</id>
	<title>Ever tried to leave a real gang?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259596560000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>I don't see any parallels between real gangs and guilds, especially because leaving a guild isn't normally considered treason and doesn't put you (or your avatar) in any (virtual) danger. You can switch guilds as often as you like, no one cares.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't see any parallels between real gangs and guilds , especially because leaving a guild is n't normally considered treason and does n't put you ( or your avatar ) in any ( virtual ) danger .
You can switch guilds as often as you like , no one cares .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't see any parallels between real gangs and guilds, especially because leaving a guild isn't normally considered treason and doesn't put you (or your avatar) in any (virtual) danger.
You can switch guilds as often as you like, no one cares.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Ever tried to leave a real gang?</title>
	<author>mikael</author>
	<datestamp>1259608800000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>They are looking at the social structure. There will be the following:</p><p>o A reason why the groups exist (for protection or to make money, or to develop a new product)<br>o Ringleaders<br>o Individuals who offer a particular set of skills in return for help</p><p>In the facebook multi-player games, each person is able to create their own guild/team/gang/nation/region. It is up to them to offer incentives, rewards, help or assistance to attract and keep both junior and senior members. When another guild attacks two or more other guilds, the other two will join together to fight back, but split up once the threat is over. Word will also spread round, so that other guilds are ready to join together. Sometimes there will be a permanent merger.</p><p>If you were to look at the way sourceforge projects (device drivers/API's) will merge, split, and rejoin, due to technical/hardware/personality reasons, it is the same thing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They are looking at the social structure .
There will be the following : o A reason why the groups exist ( for protection or to make money , or to develop a new product ) o Ringleaderso Individuals who offer a particular set of skills in return for helpIn the facebook multi-player games , each person is able to create their own guild/team/gang/nation/region .
It is up to them to offer incentives , rewards , help or assistance to attract and keep both junior and senior members .
When another guild attacks two or more other guilds , the other two will join together to fight back , but split up once the threat is over .
Word will also spread round , so that other guilds are ready to join together .
Sometimes there will be a permanent merger.If you were to look at the way sourceforge projects ( device drivers/API 's ) will merge , split , and rejoin , due to technical/hardware/personality reasons , it is the same thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They are looking at the social structure.
There will be the following:o A reason why the groups exist (for protection or to make money, or to develop a new product)o Ringleaderso Individuals who offer a particular set of skills in return for helpIn the facebook multi-player games, each person is able to create their own guild/team/gang/nation/region.
It is up to them to offer incentives, rewards, help or assistance to attract and keep both junior and senior members.
When another guild attacks two or more other guilds, the other two will join together to fight back, but split up once the threat is over.
Word will also spread round, so that other guilds are ready to join together.
Sometimes there will be a permanent merger.If you were to look at the way sourceforge projects (device drivers/API's) will merge, split, and rejoin, due to technical/hardware/personality reasons, it is the same thing.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30270434</id>
	<title>Are they sure?</title>
	<author>furiousxgeorge</author>
	<datestamp>1259599680000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Guilds are forced to build teams in WoW because that is what the game requires. You can't win any of the raids with a team of 25 rogues.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Guilds are forced to build teams in WoW because that is what the game requires .
You ca n't win any of the raids with a team of 25 rogues .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Guilds are forced to build teams in WoW because that is what the game requires.
You can't win any of the raids with a team of 25 rogues.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Groups of people</title>
	<author>heidaro</author>
	<datestamp>1259604600000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>I find that WoW guilds often resemble political parties. They have drama, scandals, split ups and disbands, just like in politics.

Then again, it's a group of people, and a group of people is a group of people, regardless of location.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I find that WoW guilds often resemble political parties .
They have drama , scandals , split ups and disbands , just like in politics .
Then again , it 's a group of people , and a group of people is a group of people , regardless of location .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find that WoW guilds often resemble political parties.
They have drama, scandals, split ups and disbands, just like in politics.
Then again, it's a group of people, and a group of people is a group of people, regardless of location.</sentencetext>
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	<title>The Guild</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259597100000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/the-guild-episode-11-battle-royale/y0g5hgdl" title="bing.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/the-guild-episode-11-battle-royale/y0g5hgdl</a> [bing.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/the-guild-episode-11-battle-royale/y0g5hgdl [ bing.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/the-guild-episode-11-battle-royale/y0g5hgdl [bing.com]</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Read the abstract more carefully</title>
	<author>radtea</author>
	<datestamp>1259598720000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><i>In other words, guilds bear a pretty piss-poor correlation to street gangs, compared to just about any small real-world organization.</i></p><p>This is actually a plus:  they have found a single, rather simple, underlying mathematical model that can be used to account for the formation dynamics of two quite different types of human group, and the model is not a simple "like-seeks-like" idea, but rather a "team formation" thing that includes the value of diversity of skills amongst group members.</p><p>I agree that this is an odd thing to be found in Phys. Rev. E, but on the other hand:  dynamics are dynamics, and we can learn things from simplistic mathematical models just as well as we can from simplistic non-mathematical models (and if you think the models used by math-phobic social scientists aren't simplistic, you aren't sufficiently conversant with the social sciences.)</p><p>Disclaimer:  I am a physicist who has worked professionally in several fields, particularly genomics, and found that the underlying concepts used by physicists to build mathematical models of complex systems are applicable to complex systems that don't happen to be "physical systems" in the usual sense of the term.  Like I said, dynamics is dynamics, and there's not one shred of evidence that the dynamics of human systems are any more complex than the dynamics of viscous flows, say.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In other words , guilds bear a pretty piss-poor correlation to street gangs , compared to just about any small real-world organization.This is actually a plus : they have found a single , rather simple , underlying mathematical model that can be used to account for the formation dynamics of two quite different types of human group , and the model is not a simple " like-seeks-like " idea , but rather a " team formation " thing that includes the value of diversity of skills amongst group members.I agree that this is an odd thing to be found in Phys .
Rev. E , but on the other hand : dynamics are dynamics , and we can learn things from simplistic mathematical models just as well as we can from simplistic non-mathematical models ( and if you think the models used by math-phobic social scientists are n't simplistic , you are n't sufficiently conversant with the social sciences .
) Disclaimer : I am a physicist who has worked professionally in several fields , particularly genomics , and found that the underlying concepts used by physicists to build mathematical models of complex systems are applicable to complex systems that do n't happen to be " physical systems " in the usual sense of the term .
Like I said , dynamics is dynamics , and there 's not one shred of evidence that the dynamics of human systems are any more complex than the dynamics of viscous flows , say .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In other words, guilds bear a pretty piss-poor correlation to street gangs, compared to just about any small real-world organization.This is actually a plus:  they have found a single, rather simple, underlying mathematical model that can be used to account for the formation dynamics of two quite different types of human group, and the model is not a simple "like-seeks-like" idea, but rather a "team formation" thing that includes the value of diversity of skills amongst group members.I agree that this is an odd thing to be found in Phys.
Rev. E, but on the other hand:  dynamics are dynamics, and we can learn things from simplistic mathematical models just as well as we can from simplistic non-mathematical models (and if you think the models used by math-phobic social scientists aren't simplistic, you aren't sufficiently conversant with the social sciences.
)Disclaimer:  I am a physicist who has worked professionally in several fields, particularly genomics, and found that the underlying concepts used by physicists to build mathematical models of complex systems are applicable to complex systems that don't happen to be "physical systems" in the usual sense of the term.
Like I said, dynamics is dynamics, and there's not one shred of evidence that the dynamics of human systems are any more complex than the dynamics of viscous flows, say.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Where is this hazing church?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259597100000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Any church that promotes hazing must be an awesome church.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Any church that promotes hazing must be an awesome church .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Any church that promotes hazing must be an awesome church.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1358241.30269662</id>
	<title>I knew it wasn't me!</title>
	<author>JoeSixpack00</author>
	<datestamp>1259594820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
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	<htmltext>I've always maintained that my fascination with the Bloods and my hatred for the color BLU was driven by the combat training I received playing Team Fortress 2. Although I'm too chicken shit to join a real gang, I wonder if I can sue for punitive <i>character</i> damages...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've always maintained that my fascination with the Bloods and my hatred for the color BLU was driven by the combat training I received playing Team Fortress 2 .
Although I 'm too chicken shit to join a real gang , I wonder if I can sue for punitive character damages.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've always maintained that my fascination with the Bloods and my hatred for the color BLU was driven by the combat training I received playing Team Fortress 2.
Although I'm too chicken shit to join a real gang, I wonder if I can sue for punitive character damages...</sentencetext>
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