<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_30_1323202</id>
	<title>Man Arrested For <em>RuneScape</em> MMORPG Online Robbery</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1259588460000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Unexpof writes <i>"A man has been arrested by the British Police Central e-Crime Unit (PCeU), accused of <a href="http://www.sophos.com/blogs/gc/g/2009/11/30/man-arrested-robbing-runescape-virtual-characters/">stealing the usernames and passwords from players of the <em>RuneScape</em> MMORPG</a>. Security experts report that this is one of the first occasions when a Brit has been apprehended for 'virtual robbery,' although incidents have happened in the past.  For instance, the CEO of the sci-fi trading game <em>EVE Online</em> stole 200 billion 'kredits,' which he then used as a deposit on a real-world house, and in October last year a Japanese woman was arrested by police after allegedly hacking her virtual husband 'to death.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unexpof writes " A man has been arrested by the British Police Central e-Crime Unit ( PCeU ) , accused of stealing the usernames and passwords from players of the RuneScape MMORPG .
Security experts report that this is one of the first occasions when a Brit has been apprehended for 'virtual robbery, ' although incidents have happened in the past .
For instance , the CEO of the sci-fi trading game EVE Online stole 200 billion 'kredits, ' which he then used as a deposit on a real-world house , and in October last year a Japanese woman was arrested by police after allegedly hacking her virtual husband 'to death .
' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unexpof writes "A man has been arrested by the British Police Central e-Crime Unit (PCeU), accused of stealing the usernames and passwords from players of the RuneScape MMORPG.
Security experts report that this is one of the first occasions when a Brit has been apprehended for 'virtual robbery,' although incidents have happened in the past.
For instance, the CEO of the sci-fi trading game EVE Online stole 200 billion 'kredits,' which he then used as a deposit on a real-world house, and in October last year a Japanese woman was arrested by police after allegedly hacking her virtual husband 'to death.
'"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30287536</id>
	<title>Re:what kind of a bank...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259699940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i>Eve Online stole 200 billion "kredits", which he then used as a deposit on a real-world house</i></p><p>What kind of a bank would take 'kredits' as deposit for a house and where can I sign up for an account?  I have 500 billion <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwean\_dollar" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">ZWD</a> [wikipedia.org]   to use as collateral for a loan.</p></div><p>its easy. you steal kredits from the game, sell them to users for real money, then use their real money at your disposal. money laundering at its no-so best. Gold farmers for WoW do this all the time, only its semi-legit</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Eve Online stole 200 billion " kredits " , which he then used as a deposit on a real-world houseWhat kind of a bank would take 'kredits ' as deposit for a house and where can I sign up for an account ?
I have 500 billion ZWD [ wikipedia.org ] to use as collateral for a loan.its easy .
you steal kredits from the game , sell them to users for real money , then use their real money at your disposal .
money laundering at its no-so best .
Gold farmers for WoW do this all the time , only its semi-legit</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Eve Online stole 200 billion "kredits", which he then used as a deposit on a real-world houseWhat kind of a bank would take 'kredits' as deposit for a house and where can I sign up for an account?
I have 500 billion ZWD [wikipedia.org]   to use as collateral for a loan.its easy.
you steal kredits from the game, sell them to users for real money, then use their real money at your disposal.
money laundering at its no-so best.
Gold farmers for WoW do this all the time, only its semi-legit
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30288080</id>
	<title>What if....</title>
	<author>killking402</author>
	<datestamp>1259658780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...the people were stealing x-box accounts?(not really a crime)<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...and then sold them/returned the "gold membership" for a refund?(definitely grounds for theft.)

 what would the repercussions be? I would think it would e the same as stealing someone else's videogame and returning the game back to best buy or something.

am i on the wrong path or what?</htmltext>
<tokenext>...the people were stealing x-box accounts ?
( not really a crime ) ...and then sold them/returned the " gold membership " for a refund ?
( definitely grounds for theft .
) what would the repercussions be ?
I would think it would e the same as stealing someone else 's videogame and returning the game back to best buy or something .
am i on the wrong path or what ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...the people were stealing x-box accounts?
(not really a crime) ...and then sold them/returned the "gold membership" for a refund?
(definitely grounds for theft.
)

 what would the repercussions be?
I would think it would e the same as stealing someone else's videogame and returning the game back to best buy or something.
am i on the wrong path or what?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30272682</id>
	<title>MapleQuest story is accurate but misleading too.</title>
	<author>Valdrax</author>
	<datestamp>1259610900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>[I]n October last year a Japanese woman was arrested by police after allegedly hacking her virtual husband "to death".</p></div><p>It sounds like she performed some kind of violent action, but in truth she just logged into his account (using info from when they were in a relationship) and destroyed his character.  This got billed as "virtual murder" a lot back when the story broke to make it more salacious, but it's just the equivalent of logging into someone's webmail who made the mistake of telling you their password and deleting the entire history and address book.</p><p>Not much in the way of "hacking to death" in either sense, really.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>[ I ] n October last year a Japanese woman was arrested by police after allegedly hacking her virtual husband " to death " .It sounds like she performed some kind of violent action , but in truth she just logged into his account ( using info from when they were in a relationship ) and destroyed his character .
This got billed as " virtual murder " a lot back when the story broke to make it more salacious , but it 's just the equivalent of logging into someone 's webmail who made the mistake of telling you their password and deleting the entire history and address book.Not much in the way of " hacking to death " in either sense , really .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[I]n October last year a Japanese woman was arrested by police after allegedly hacking her virtual husband "to death".It sounds like she performed some kind of violent action, but in truth she just logged into his account (using info from when they were in a relationship) and destroyed his character.
This got billed as "virtual murder" a lot back when the story broke to make it more salacious, but it's just the equivalent of logging into someone's webmail who made the mistake of telling you their password and deleting the entire history and address book.Not much in the way of "hacking to death" in either sense, really.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269348</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30270798</id>
	<title>hmm</title>
	<author>davidmcg</author>
	<datestamp>1259601840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This sort of thing is happening more often these days.  It is a sign that virtual worlds are overlapping the real world and is only going to get more prolific as more and more people spend their lifes in virtual worlds and virtual worlds become more indistinguishable from the real world.  Next thing you know you'll be arrested as a war criminal for that mass-massacre you carried out in Battlefield 2.  Seriously, it's almost as if the worlds created by Neal Stephenson or William Gibson are slowly coming true.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This sort of thing is happening more often these days .
It is a sign that virtual worlds are overlapping the real world and is only going to get more prolific as more and more people spend their lifes in virtual worlds and virtual worlds become more indistinguishable from the real world .
Next thing you know you 'll be arrested as a war criminal for that mass-massacre you carried out in Battlefield 2 .
Seriously , it 's almost as if the worlds created by Neal Stephenson or William Gibson are slowly coming true .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This sort of thing is happening more often these days.
It is a sign that virtual worlds are overlapping the real world and is only going to get more prolific as more and more people spend their lifes in virtual worlds and virtual worlds become more indistinguishable from the real world.
Next thing you know you'll be arrested as a war criminal for that mass-massacre you carried out in Battlefield 2.
Seriously, it's almost as if the worlds created by Neal Stephenson or William Gibson are slowly coming true.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269582</id>
	<title>If only it were a band of Orcs</title>
	<author>daboochmeister</author>
	<datestamp>1259594040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Then Stross could be pleased that one of his novels had become reality in record time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Then Stross could be pleased that one of his novels had become reality in record time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then Stross could be pleased that one of his novels had become reality in record time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269372</id>
	<title>what kind of a bank...</title>
	<author>Shanrak</author>
	<datestamp>1259592480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Eve Online stole 200 billion "kredits", which he then used as a deposit on a real-world house</i> <br> <br>

What kind of a bank would take 'kredits' as deposit for a house and where can I sign up for an account?  I have 500 billion <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwean\_dollar" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">ZWD</a> [wikipedia.org]   to use as collateral for a loan.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Eve Online stole 200 billion " kredits " , which he then used as a deposit on a real-world house What kind of a bank would take 'kredits ' as deposit for a house and where can I sign up for an account ?
I have 500 billion ZWD [ wikipedia.org ] to use as collateral for a loan .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Eve Online stole 200 billion "kredits", which he then used as a deposit on a real-world house  

What kind of a bank would take 'kredits' as deposit for a house and where can I sign up for an account?
I have 500 billion ZWD [wikipedia.org]   to use as collateral for a loan.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30270984</id>
	<title>Eve Online is a "trading" game?</title>
	<author>X.25</author>
	<datestamp>1259602740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I saw that this idiot called EVE Online a "trading" game, I realized I don't need to read any of the crap linked in the summary.</p><p>If someone can't get such a simple fact right, I am afraid what else he didn't get right...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I saw that this idiot called EVE Online a " trading " game , I realized I do n't need to read any of the crap linked in the summary.If someone ca n't get such a simple fact right , I am afraid what else he did n't get right.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I saw that this idiot called EVE Online a "trading" game, I realized I don't need to read any of the crap linked in the summary.If someone can't get such a simple fact right, I am afraid what else he didn't get right...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269460</id>
	<title>Well done to all involved.</title>
	<author>saintm</author>
	<datestamp>1259593020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This 'story' should be held up as an example of all that is wrong with the slashdot story submission process.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This 'story ' should be held up as an example of all that is wrong with the slashdot story submission process .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This 'story' should be held up as an example of all that is wrong with the slashdot story submission process.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30270340</id>
	<title>Re:user credential theft is not a virtual robbery.</title>
	<author>shentino</author>
	<datestamp>1259599080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Indeed.</p><p>What is being stolen during a hack is the victim's access to the game that they DID pay for with real life money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Indeed.What is being stolen during a hack is the victim 's access to the game that they DID pay for with real life money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Indeed.What is being stolen during a hack is the victim's access to the game that they DID pay for with real life money.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269358</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30271244</id>
	<title>Re:The difference is</title>
	<author>kv9</author>
	<datestamp>1259603880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd just like to chime in and say that both the submitter and the editor (hi taco!) are fucking retarded. fuck karma.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd just like to chime in and say that both the submitter and the editor ( hi taco !
) are fucking retarded .
fuck karma .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd just like to chime in and say that both the submitter and the editor (hi taco!
) are fucking retarded.
fuck karma.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269338</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269778</id>
	<title>Here's How He Was Arrested...</title>
	<author>RobotRunAmok</author>
	<datestamp>1259595420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...a credit card company got suspicious when they received applications from Glorion OrcBane, Aelrick WindRider, and Bokk theNaueseating, all with the same address of a basement flat in Liverpool.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...a credit card company got suspicious when they received applications from Glorion OrcBane , Aelrick WindRider , and Bokk theNaueseating , all with the same address of a basement flat in Liverpool .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...a credit card company got suspicious when they received applications from Glorion OrcBane, Aelrick WindRider, and Bokk theNaueseating, all with the same address of a basement flat in Liverpool.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269346</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30271982</id>
	<title>Re:Poster has it wrong...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259607420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Eve Online is a </p><p><div class="quote"><p>sci-fi trading game</p></div><p>?</p><p>Ouch... that made me cringe.  CmdrTaco has always had some of the worst summaries ever.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Eve Online is a sci-fi trading game ? Ouch... that made me cringe .
CmdrTaco has always had some of the worst summaries ever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Eve Online is a sci-fi trading game?Ouch... that made me cringe.
CmdrTaco has always had some of the worst summaries ever.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269348</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269604</id>
	<title>Horrible Summary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259594160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Absolutely horrible summary but assuming that it's at least correct in saying that he stole login details for this online service then it's right to say he broke the law in regards to gaining unauthorised access to computer systems which exists in many different forms all throughout the world but would most likely be treated in the same way. I don't see why posters here don't seem understand that. Seeing as this appears to be in UK, the Computer Misuse Act states:<p><div class="quote"><p>1:1) A person is guilty of an offence if:
    a) he causes a computer to perform any function with intent to secure access to any program or data held in a computer;
    b) the access he intends to secure is unauthorized; and
    c) he knows at the time when he causes the computer to perform the function that this is the case.</p></div><p>Not sure why people would somehow consider this out of the ordinary other then it happens to be that the criminal behaviour towards this type of service in question hasn't had much attention from law enforcement.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Absolutely horrible summary but assuming that it 's at least correct in saying that he stole login details for this online service then it 's right to say he broke the law in regards to gaining unauthorised access to computer systems which exists in many different forms all throughout the world but would most likely be treated in the same way .
I do n't see why posters here do n't seem understand that .
Seeing as this appears to be in UK , the Computer Misuse Act states : 1 : 1 ) A person is guilty of an offence if : a ) he causes a computer to perform any function with intent to secure access to any program or data held in a computer ; b ) the access he intends to secure is unauthorized ; and c ) he knows at the time when he causes the computer to perform the function that this is the case.Not sure why people would somehow consider this out of the ordinary other then it happens to be that the criminal behaviour towards this type of service in question has n't had much attention from law enforcement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Absolutely horrible summary but assuming that it's at least correct in saying that he stole login details for this online service then it's right to say he broke the law in regards to gaining unauthorised access to computer systems which exists in many different forms all throughout the world but would most likely be treated in the same way.
I don't see why posters here don't seem understand that.
Seeing as this appears to be in UK, the Computer Misuse Act states:1:1) A person is guilty of an offence if:
    a) he causes a computer to perform any function with intent to secure access to any program or data held in a computer;
    b) the access he intends to secure is unauthorized; and
    c) he knows at the time when he causes the computer to perform the function that this is the case.Not sure why people would somehow consider this out of the ordinary other then it happens to be that the criminal behaviour towards this type of service in question hasn't had much attention from law enforcement.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269590</id>
	<title>HELP!</title>
	<author>p51d007</author>
	<datestamp>1259594100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ok, it's official...the world is INSANE!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok , it 's official...the world is INSANE !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok, it's official...the world is INSANE!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269346</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269358</id>
	<title>user credential theft is not a virtual robbery.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259592420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>someone needs to get a clue. stealing and using or selling a users credentials is not a virtual theft. virtual theft is stealing the users stuff inside the game. stealing thier credentials to get into the game is the same as stealing their credentials for thier bank account or for their computer. Using said stolen credentials amounts to unlawful access at the very least.</htmltext>
<tokenext>someone needs to get a clue .
stealing and using or selling a users credentials is not a virtual theft .
virtual theft is stealing the users stuff inside the game .
stealing thier credentials to get into the game is the same as stealing their credentials for thier bank account or for their computer .
Using said stolen credentials amounts to unlawful access at the very least .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>someone needs to get a clue.
stealing and using or selling a users credentials is not a virtual theft.
virtual theft is stealing the users stuff inside the game.
stealing thier credentials to get into the game is the same as stealing their credentials for thier bank account or for their computer.
Using said stolen credentials amounts to unlawful access at the very least.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30271290</id>
	<title>In other news</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259604180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>WoW is a fantasy trading game by the standards of this article.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>WoW is a fantasy trading game by the standards of this article .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WoW is a fantasy trading game by the standards of this article.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269348</id>
	<title>Poster has it wrong...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259592360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Uhm, it was not the CEO for CCP (makers of Eve Online) who stole isk (not "kredits") to buy a house. It was a CEO of a player-run banking corporation. Ingame Eve corporations are like clans, so there's a BIG difference.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Uhm , it was not the CEO for CCP ( makers of Eve Online ) who stole isk ( not " kredits " ) to buy a house .
It was a CEO of a player-run banking corporation .
Ingame Eve corporations are like clans , so there 's a BIG difference .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uhm, it was not the CEO for CCP (makers of Eve Online) who stole isk (not "kredits") to buy a house.
It was a CEO of a player-run banking corporation.
Ingame Eve corporations are like clans, so there's a BIG difference.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30272134</id>
	<title>Re:Poster has it wrong...</title>
	<author>ItsColdOverHere</author>
	<datestamp>1259608080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I smell a defamation/libel lawsuit</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I smell a defamation/libel lawsuit</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I smell a defamation/libel lawsuit</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30272848</id>
	<title>Re:Interstellar kredits</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259611740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Been playing EVE Online for 2 1/2 years pretty solid and I'll have to say...</p><p>I have never heard ISK referred to as "kredits". I guess if you use Wikipedia as your source though, you are bound to get facts technically correct even if the wording is irrelevant to anyone who actually plays the game.</p><p>On a side note, the CEO of CCP did not steal anything... A CEO of a corporation INSIDE EVE stole something. The game has corporations similar to fantasy MMORPG's having guilds. Secondly, how does an illegal act of account theft even compare to the virtual theft of currency in a game which not only allows it but encourages it...?!?!?</p><p>Hard to take anything about the blog seriously from my perspective.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Been playing EVE Online for 2 1/2 years pretty solid and I 'll have to say...I have never heard ISK referred to as " kredits " .
I guess if you use Wikipedia as your source though , you are bound to get facts technically correct even if the wording is irrelevant to anyone who actually plays the game.On a side note , the CEO of CCP did not steal anything... A CEO of a corporation INSIDE EVE stole something .
The game has corporations similar to fantasy MMORPG 's having guilds .
Secondly , how does an illegal act of account theft even compare to the virtual theft of currency in a game which not only allows it but encourages it... ? ! ? !
? Hard to take anything about the blog seriously from my perspective .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Been playing EVE Online for 2 1/2 years pretty solid and I'll have to say...I have never heard ISK referred to as "kredits".
I guess if you use Wikipedia as your source though, you are bound to get facts technically correct even if the wording is irrelevant to anyone who actually plays the game.On a side note, the CEO of CCP did not steal anything... A CEO of a corporation INSIDE EVE stole something.
The game has corporations similar to fantasy MMORPG's having guilds.
Secondly, how does an illegal act of account theft even compare to the virtual theft of currency in a game which not only allows it but encourages it...?!?!
?Hard to take anything about the blog seriously from my perspective.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269360</id>
	<title>Not Eve Online, Eve Bank</title>
	<author>Amezick</author>
	<datestamp>1259592420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The CEO of Eve Bank stole the online cash.  The CEO of CCP (maker of eve) had nothing to do with this.  Eve Bank is a player run financial institution inside the game.  FACT CHECK!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The CEO of Eve Bank stole the online cash .
The CEO of CCP ( maker of eve ) had nothing to do with this .
Eve Bank is a player run financial institution inside the game .
FACT CHECK !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The CEO of Eve Bank stole the online cash.
The CEO of CCP (maker of eve) had nothing to do with this.
Eve Bank is a player run financial institution inside the game.
FACT CHECK!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30272512</id>
	<title>Re:user credential theft is not a virtual robbery.</title>
	<author>dissy</author>
	<datestamp>1259609820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>So really, you are just nitpicking.</i></p><p>To be fair, it is not the GP's fault but the submitter and article authors fault.</p><p>Both use the word 'theft' and did so in the context of crimes.  That fully brings the word into legal use, and legally theft is very specifically (nitpicky) defined.  You can't avoid nitpicking when it comes to legal terms, since that is what they are by definition.</p><p>So no, taking someones credentials is not theft as defined by the law.</p><p>Using them without permission is, and the law is different between the US and UK, but in neither country does that crime fall under 'theft' or any of its related crimes.</p><p>In the US for sure, and from what I can tell in the UK too, you have to look at a totally separate unrelated set of laws to find the one that defines this action is illegal.  They are all computer crime laws relating to unauthorized access and digital trespassing family of laws.</p><p>Saying taking someones credentials is theft is akin to saying calling someone 'tall' is armed robbery.  Not even in the same field.</p><p>The only time theft laws come into play is when/if a person used your credentials without authorization to find where you live, and came to take your stuff located there.<br>I'm sure it happens, but not in the linked article at least.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So really , you are just nitpicking.To be fair , it is not the GP 's fault but the submitter and article authors fault.Both use the word 'theft ' and did so in the context of crimes .
That fully brings the word into legal use , and legally theft is very specifically ( nitpicky ) defined .
You ca n't avoid nitpicking when it comes to legal terms , since that is what they are by definition.So no , taking someones credentials is not theft as defined by the law.Using them without permission is , and the law is different between the US and UK , but in neither country does that crime fall under 'theft ' or any of its related crimes.In the US for sure , and from what I can tell in the UK too , you have to look at a totally separate unrelated set of laws to find the one that defines this action is illegal .
They are all computer crime laws relating to unauthorized access and digital trespassing family of laws.Saying taking someones credentials is theft is akin to saying calling someone 'tall ' is armed robbery .
Not even in the same field.The only time theft laws come into play is when/if a person used your credentials without authorization to find where you live , and came to take your stuff located there.I 'm sure it happens , but not in the linked article at least .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So really, you are just nitpicking.To be fair, it is not the GP's fault but the submitter and article authors fault.Both use the word 'theft' and did so in the context of crimes.
That fully brings the word into legal use, and legally theft is very specifically (nitpicky) defined.
You can't avoid nitpicking when it comes to legal terms, since that is what they are by definition.So no, taking someones credentials is not theft as defined by the law.Using them without permission is, and the law is different between the US and UK, but in neither country does that crime fall under 'theft' or any of its related crimes.In the US for sure, and from what I can tell in the UK too, you have to look at a totally separate unrelated set of laws to find the one that defines this action is illegal.
They are all computer crime laws relating to unauthorized access and digital trespassing family of laws.Saying taking someones credentials is theft is akin to saying calling someone 'tall' is armed robbery.
Not even in the same field.The only time theft laws come into play is when/if a person used your credentials without authorization to find where you live, and came to take your stuff located there.I'm sure it happens, but not in the linked article at least.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269752</id>
	<title>Re:what kind of a bank...</title>
	<author>roachdabug</author>
	<datestamp>1259595240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i>Eve Online stole 200 billion "kredits", which he then used as a deposit on a real-world house</i></p><p>What kind of a bank would take 'kredits' as deposit for a house and where can I sign up for an account?  I have 500 billion <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwean\_dollar" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">ZWD</a> [wikipedia.org]   to use as collateral for a loan.</p></div><p>In-game currencies are commonly traded for real-world cash. Right now it looks like 200 billion ISK is worth about US$8000.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Eve Online stole 200 billion " kredits " , which he then used as a deposit on a real-world houseWhat kind of a bank would take 'kredits ' as deposit for a house and where can I sign up for an account ?
I have 500 billion ZWD [ wikipedia.org ] to use as collateral for a loan.In-game currencies are commonly traded for real-world cash .
Right now it looks like 200 billion ISK is worth about US $ 8000 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Eve Online stole 200 billion "kredits", which he then used as a deposit on a real-world houseWhat kind of a bank would take 'kredits' as deposit for a house and where can I sign up for an account?
I have 500 billion ZWD [wikipedia.org]   to use as collateral for a loan.In-game currencies are commonly traded for real-world cash.
Right now it looks like 200 billion ISK is worth about US$8000.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30270236</id>
	<title>Hey, important</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259598360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't think the EVE Online one was the CEO. I think you have the wrong guy in the summary. IIRC, it was some player who played at being a bank CEO, or something. Anyway, just wanted to let you know you slandered a man.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think the EVE Online one was the CEO .
I think you have the wrong guy in the summary .
IIRC , it was some player who played at being a bank CEO , or something .
Anyway , just wanted to let you know you slandered a man .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think the EVE Online one was the CEO.
I think you have the wrong guy in the summary.
IIRC, it was some player who played at being a bank CEO, or something.
Anyway, just wanted to let you know you slandered a man.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269668</id>
	<title>hrmph</title>
	<author>jollyreaper</author>
	<datestamp>1259594820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While I'm sure this guy was a real douche nozzle, I'd like to see people who steal real assets go to jail before the people who steal fake assets. International bankers rather than basement dwellers, ok?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While I 'm sure this guy was a real douche nozzle , I 'd like to see people who steal real assets go to jail before the people who steal fake assets .
International bankers rather than basement dwellers , ok ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I'm sure this guy was a real douche nozzle, I'd like to see people who steal real assets go to jail before the people who steal fake assets.
International bankers rather than basement dwellers, ok?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269346</id>
	<title>Reality check</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259592360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I hope he doesn't take my slashdot karma points.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope he does n't take my slashdot karma points .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope he doesn't take my slashdot karma points.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30270698</id>
	<title>this doesn't make any sense</title>
	<author>ILuvRamen</author>
	<datestamp>1259601360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This case must have been really old or something.  For years RS has had a trade limit and bank PIN that you enter with the mouse.  So if you steal someone's account, you can't get into their bank to get any of their items.  You also can't offload them onto another account because the 15 minute trade limit is around 1/100th the cost of anything remotely worth stealing.  There is literally no way to move expensive items to another account without paying what they're worth to the owner.  So he clearly didn't "steal" any items, just the account, which has been made completely pointless.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This case must have been really old or something .
For years RS has had a trade limit and bank PIN that you enter with the mouse .
So if you steal someone 's account , you ca n't get into their bank to get any of their items .
You also ca n't offload them onto another account because the 15 minute trade limit is around 1/100th the cost of anything remotely worth stealing .
There is literally no way to move expensive items to another account without paying what they 're worth to the owner .
So he clearly did n't " steal " any items , just the account , which has been made completely pointless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This case must have been really old or something.
For years RS has had a trade limit and bank PIN that you enter with the mouse.
So if you steal someone's account, you can't get into their bank to get any of their items.
You also can't offload them onto another account because the 15 minute trade limit is around 1/100th the cost of anything remotely worth stealing.
There is literally no way to move expensive items to another account without paying what they're worth to the owner.
So he clearly didn't "steal" any items, just the account, which has been made completely pointless.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269480</id>
	<title>Who tagged this 'isk'?</title>
	<author>dkf</author>
	<datestamp>1259593200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I really wouldn't steak 'isk' if I were you. The Icelandic Kronor isn't worth nearly as much as it use to be.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I really would n't steak 'isk ' if I were you .
The Icelandic Kronor is n't worth nearly as much as it use to be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really wouldn't steak 'isk' if I were you.
The Icelandic Kronor isn't worth nearly as much as it use to be.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30270076</id>
	<title>Re:Poster has it wrong...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259597520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, and that's a big difference!  Reputation is everything, and this posting on Slashdot is definitely slander.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , and that 's a big difference !
Reputation is everything , and this posting on Slashdot is definitely slander .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, and that's a big difference!
Reputation is everything, and this posting on Slashdot is definitely slander.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30270024</id>
	<title>Interstellar kredits</title>
	<author>tepples</author>
	<datestamp>1259597100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>isk (not "kredits")</p></div><p>Within EVE Online, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gameplay\_of\_Eve\_Online#Economy" title="wikipedia.org">ISK stands for "interstellar kredits"</a> [wikipedia.org].</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>isk ( not " kredits " ) Within EVE Online , ISK stands for " interstellar kredits " [ wikipedia.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>isk (not "kredits")Within EVE Online, ISK stands for "interstellar kredits" [wikipedia.org].
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269414</id>
	<title>Not virtual robbery...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259592780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Try prosecution under the Misuse of Computers Act, specifically for unauthorised access to the accounts - which this fits perfectly.  He stole and used usernames and passwords, nuff said.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Try prosecution under the Misuse of Computers Act , specifically for unauthorised access to the accounts - which this fits perfectly .
He stole and used usernames and passwords , nuff said .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Try prosecution under the Misuse of Computers Act, specifically for unauthorised access to the accounts - which this fits perfectly.
He stole and used usernames and passwords, nuff said.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269378</id>
	<title>Eve Online???</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259592540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The eve online statement is horrible - no CEO of it stole isk.</p><p>It was the CEO of a bank in EVE Online, not EVE itself - and EVE certainly wouldn't be classified as an 'online trading game' per se. And it certainly isn't a good example of a person being apprehended - they never arrested the fellow - it just in general looks like some crappy sentence structure with some mish-mashed facts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The eve online statement is horrible - no CEO of it stole isk.It was the CEO of a bank in EVE Online , not EVE itself - and EVE certainly would n't be classified as an 'online trading game ' per se .
And it certainly is n't a good example of a person being apprehended - they never arrested the fellow - it just in general looks like some crappy sentence structure with some mish-mashed facts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The eve online statement is horrible - no CEO of it stole isk.It was the CEO of a bank in EVE Online, not EVE itself - and EVE certainly wouldn't be classified as an 'online trading game' per se.
And it certainly isn't a good example of a person being apprehended - they never arrested the fellow - it just in general looks like some crappy sentence structure with some mish-mashed facts.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30270556</id>
	<title>Re:user credential theft is not a virtual robbery.</title>
	<author>brkello</author>
	<datestamp>1259600340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why do they steal the credentials?  So they can access the virtual content and either strip the account dry of its resources or to sell the account (which is all the virtual characters and resources) to another person.  So really, you are just nitpicking.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do they steal the credentials ?
So they can access the virtual content and either strip the account dry of its resources or to sell the account ( which is all the virtual characters and resources ) to another person .
So really , you are just nitpicking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do they steal the credentials?
So they can access the virtual content and either strip the account dry of its resources or to sell the account (which is all the virtual characters and resources) to another person.
So really, you are just nitpicking.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269368</id>
	<title>What?</title>
	<author>jhoegl</author>
	<datestamp>1259592480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Alright, the first part of the article deals with actual crime, but the support examples of "crime" are a civil matter.  The way he went about capturing users data is illegal, "stealing" in game currency is a policy for the company to deal with. The last example is just stupid, if true (citation needed).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Alright , the first part of the article deals with actual crime , but the support examples of " crime " are a civil matter .
The way he went about capturing users data is illegal , " stealing " in game currency is a policy for the company to deal with .
The last example is just stupid , if true ( citation needed ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Alright, the first part of the article deals with actual crime, but the support examples of "crime" are a civil matter.
The way he went about capturing users data is illegal, "stealing" in game currency is a policy for the company to deal with.
The last example is just stupid, if true (citation needed).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30270084</id>
	<title>Re:Poster has it wrong...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259597580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>And you can't really even call it stealing. Other players GAVE their isk to the banking corporation with the understanding that they could take it back with interest later. Since there is no in-game way to enforce this sort of relationship, doing this with people you have no reason to trust is just like throwing your money away.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And you ca n't really even call it stealing .
Other players GAVE their isk to the banking corporation with the understanding that they could take it back with interest later .
Since there is no in-game way to enforce this sort of relationship , doing this with people you have no reason to trust is just like throwing your money away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And you can't really even call it stealing.
Other players GAVE their isk to the banking corporation with the understanding that they could take it back with interest later.
Since there is no in-game way to enforce this sort of relationship, doing this with people you have no reason to trust is just like throwing your money away.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269344</id>
	<title>Misleading blogvertising</title>
	<author>Revvy</author>
	<datestamp>1259592360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's a terrible quote from a not-so-good blog post. It also appears that the submitter, Unexpof, only links to stories on Graham Cluley's blog at Sophos.</div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's a terrible quote from a not-so-good blog post .
It also appears that the submitter , Unexpof , only links to stories on Graham Cluley 's blog at Sophos .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's a terrible quote from a not-so-good blog post.
It also appears that the submitter, Unexpof, only links to stories on Graham Cluley's blog at Sophos.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269442</id>
	<title>"virtual" robbery?</title>
	<author>Errtu76</author>
	<datestamp>1259592960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seems to me the theft was real, not virtual. Ah, marketing terms<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems to me the theft was real , not virtual .
Ah , marketing terms .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems to me the theft was real, not virtual.
Ah, marketing terms ...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30270636</id>
	<title>Virtual Murder</title>
	<author>SnarfQuest</author>
	<datestamp>1259600880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is she going to be given the choice of:<br>1. Virtual lethal injection. (virus)<br>2. Virtual firing squad. (One of those FPS games seems relevent).<br>3. Virtual hanging. (Obama's good at this. Just ask any banker)<br>4. Electricution. (Throw her computer into the bathtub)<br>5. Virtual stoning. (tetris)<br>6. Bore them to death . (Make them read the entire health care bills, from both houses)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is she going to be given the choice of : 1 .
Virtual lethal injection .
( virus ) 2. Virtual firing squad .
( One of those FPS games seems relevent ) .3 .
Virtual hanging .
( Obama 's good at this .
Just ask any banker ) 4 .
Electricution. ( Throw her computer into the bathtub ) 5 .
Virtual stoning .
( tetris ) 6. Bore them to death .
( Make them read the entire health care bills , from both houses )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is she going to be given the choice of:1.
Virtual lethal injection.
(virus)2. Virtual firing squad.
(One of those FPS games seems relevent).3.
Virtual hanging.
(Obama's good at this.
Just ask any banker)4.
Electricution. (Throw her computer into the bathtub)5.
Virtual stoning.
(tetris)6. Bore them to death .
(Make them read the entire health care bills, from both houses)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30271348</id>
	<title>Identity theft is not virtual</title>
	<author>Arancaytar</author>
	<datestamp>1259604420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Stealing virtual items in a MMORPG is not a crime, and at most a violation of the terms of service.</p><p>Stealing identities by way of online passwords is not a virtual crime, it's a very normal, plain computer crime.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Stealing virtual items in a MMORPG is not a crime , and at most a violation of the terms of service.Stealing identities by way of online passwords is not a virtual crime , it 's a very normal , plain computer crime .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stealing virtual items in a MMORPG is not a crime, and at most a violation of the terms of service.Stealing identities by way of online passwords is not a virtual crime, it's a very normal, plain computer crime.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269596</id>
	<title>There was no arrest for virtual killing</title>
	<author>bickle</author>
	<datestamp>1259594160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"in October last year a Japanese woman was arrested by police after allegedly hacking her virtual husband "to death""</p><p>Ok, let's get this corrected. There was no arrest for virtual murder. Repeat: There was no arrest for virtual murder. The woman was arrested for hacking into someone else's account. What she did in game is irrelevant and has just been repeated and twisted over and over for the sake of a sensationalistic "news" story.</p><p><a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/10/woman-arrested/" title="wired.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/10/woman-arrested/</a> [wired.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" in October last year a Japanese woman was arrested by police after allegedly hacking her virtual husband " to death " " Ok , let 's get this corrected .
There was no arrest for virtual murder .
Repeat : There was no arrest for virtual murder .
The woman was arrested for hacking into someone else 's account .
What she did in game is irrelevant and has just been repeated and twisted over and over for the sake of a sensationalistic " news " story.http : //www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/10/woman-arrested/ [ wired.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"in October last year a Japanese woman was arrested by police after allegedly hacking her virtual husband "to death""Ok, let's get this corrected.
There was no arrest for virtual murder.
Repeat: There was no arrest for virtual murder.
The woman was arrested for hacking into someone else's account.
What she did in game is irrelevant and has just been repeated and twisted over and over for the sake of a sensationalistic "news" story.http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/10/woman-arrested/ [wired.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269366</id>
	<title>Incorrect Summary</title>
	<author>d3ac0n</author>
	<datestamp>1259592480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is no "CEO" of Eve Online.  Eve Online is a game produced by CCP of Iceland.</p><p>There ARE Virtual CEO's of Virtual corporations within the Space-based MMO EVE Online.</p><p>I am also not aware of any corp CEO that has used EVE-O ISK to buy a real world house.  Somehow I doubt any bank would accept a virtual money as collateral on a real house.  Of course, If a private party was that foolish, then hey, more power to the corp CEO.  Nevertheless that sounds like a fake story.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is no " CEO " of Eve Online .
Eve Online is a game produced by CCP of Iceland.There ARE Virtual CEO 's of Virtual corporations within the Space-based MMO EVE Online.I am also not aware of any corp CEO that has used EVE-O ISK to buy a real world house .
Somehow I doubt any bank would accept a virtual money as collateral on a real house .
Of course , If a private party was that foolish , then hey , more power to the corp CEO .
Nevertheless that sounds like a fake story .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is no "CEO" of Eve Online.
Eve Online is a game produced by CCP of Iceland.There ARE Virtual CEO's of Virtual corporations within the Space-based MMO EVE Online.I am also not aware of any corp CEO that has used EVE-O ISK to buy a real world house.
Somehow I doubt any bank would accept a virtual money as collateral on a real house.
Of course, If a private party was that foolish, then hey, more power to the corp CEO.
Nevertheless that sounds like a fake story.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30272456</id>
	<title>Another 'Get a Life' Scenario</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259609460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Most Gaming owners would pretty much just ban the player.  This virtual world crap is getting out of hand.  A woman arrested for hacking a virtual man to death?  Down payments on REAL real estate??  If ever I run across this crap, I'll make it a point to smack the living sh!t out of whoever it is.

I agree:  Stop wasting the REAL taxpayer's money.  The UK already is a police state with the politicians running amok and need to be silenced themselves.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most Gaming owners would pretty much just ban the player .
This virtual world crap is getting out of hand .
A woman arrested for hacking a virtual man to death ?
Down payments on REAL real estate ? ?
If ever I run across this crap , I 'll make it a point to smack the living sh ! t out of whoever it is .
I agree : Stop wasting the REAL taxpayer 's money .
The UK already is a police state with the politicians running amok and need to be silenced themselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most Gaming owners would pretty much just ban the player.
This virtual world crap is getting out of hand.
A woman arrested for hacking a virtual man to death?
Down payments on REAL real estate??
If ever I run across this crap, I'll make it a point to smack the living sh!t out of whoever it is.
I agree:  Stop wasting the REAL taxpayer's money.
The UK already is a police state with the politicians running amok and need to be silenced themselves.</sentencetext>
</comment>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30272188</id>
	<title>Re:Reality check</title>
	<author>Golddess</author>
	<datestamp>1259608320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Did you pay RL money for them?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did you pay RL money for them ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did you pay RL money for them?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269346</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30270460</id>
	<title>Re:Poster has it wrong...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259599800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Uhm, it was not the CEO for CCP (makers of Eve Online) who stole isk (not "kredits") to buy a house. It was a CEO of a player-run banking corporation. Ingame Eve corporations are like clans, so there's a BIG difference.</p></div><p>If you are going to report a story, make sure you research the facts first before posting about Eve. Enough posts have been put up before mine for you to know that you are totally wrong in your claim that the CEO did this. I dislike shotty Reporting.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Uhm , it was not the CEO for CCP ( makers of Eve Online ) who stole isk ( not " kredits " ) to buy a house .
It was a CEO of a player-run banking corporation .
Ingame Eve corporations are like clans , so there 's a BIG difference.If you are going to report a story , make sure you research the facts first before posting about Eve .
Enough posts have been put up before mine for you to know that you are totally wrong in your claim that the CEO did this .
I dislike shotty Reporting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uhm, it was not the CEO for CCP (makers of Eve Online) who stole isk (not "kredits") to buy a house.
It was a CEO of a player-run banking corporation.
Ingame Eve corporations are like clans, so there's a BIG difference.If you are going to report a story, make sure you research the facts first before posting about Eve.
Enough posts have been put up before mine for you to know that you are totally wrong in your claim that the CEO did this.
I dislike shotty Reporting.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269348</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30270058</id>
	<title>Not robbery unless something was taken</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1259597400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Doesn't sound like robbery, unless the usernames were taken. If that is the case, how do these users even know their usernames anymore? "I'd like to report a stolen username, but since it was stolen, I can't tell you what the username was. If I knew it, it I wouldn't be reporting it as stolen, now would I?"</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does n't sound like robbery , unless the usernames were taken .
If that is the case , how do these users even know their usernames anymore ?
" I 'd like to report a stolen username , but since it was stolen , I ca n't tell you what the username was .
If I knew it , it I would n't be reporting it as stolen , now would I ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doesn't sound like robbery, unless the usernames were taken.
If that is the case, how do these users even know their usernames anymore?
"I'd like to report a stolen username, but since it was stolen, I can't tell you what the username was.
If I knew it, it I wouldn't be reporting it as stolen, now would I?
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30271322</id>
	<title>Re:Not Eve Online, Eve Bank</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259604300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The summary is complete shit in this issue. Slashdot editors should fact-check the submission for the love of god.</p><p>I hope they get a defamation suit by Hilmar Veigar P&#233;tursson (CCP CEO) for this bulllshit.</p><p>Right now, people come that come into Slashdot or <a href="http://i49.tinypic.com/23tmwe1.jpg" title="tinypic.com" rel="nofollow">search in google </a> [tinypic.com] will believe that Eve Online and CCP are criminals.</p><p>STOP BEING PIECE OF SHIT LAZY YOU FUCKING EDITORS<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/rant</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The summary is complete shit in this issue .
Slashdot editors should fact-check the submission for the love of god.I hope they get a defamation suit by Hilmar Veigar P   tursson ( CCP CEO ) for this bulllshit.Right now , people come that come into Slashdot or search in google [ tinypic.com ] will believe that Eve Online and CCP are criminals.STOP BEING PIECE OF SHIT LAZY YOU FUCKING EDITORS /rant</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The summary is complete shit in this issue.
Slashdot editors should fact-check the submission for the love of god.I hope they get a defamation suit by Hilmar Veigar Pétursson (CCP CEO) for this bulllshit.Right now, people come that come into Slashdot or search in google  [tinypic.com] will believe that Eve Online and CCP are criminals.STOP BEING PIECE OF SHIT LAZY YOU FUCKING EDITORS /rant</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269338</id>
	<title>The difference is</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259592300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He hacked the logins which is pretty much equivalent to hacking an email account.  The eve online thefts were all perpetuated via in-game mechanisms and since the game's terms state that all in-game items are property of the maker of the game, there was no actual IRL theft to prosecute.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He hacked the logins which is pretty much equivalent to hacking an email account .
The eve online thefts were all perpetuated via in-game mechanisms and since the game 's terms state that all in-game items are property of the maker of the game , there was no actual IRL theft to prosecute .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He hacked the logins which is pretty much equivalent to hacking an email account.
The eve online thefts were all perpetuated via in-game mechanisms and since the game's terms state that all in-game items are property of the maker of the game, there was no actual IRL theft to prosecute.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269374</id>
	<title>Other cases</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259592540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Security experts report that this is one of the first occasions when a Brit has been apprehended for "virtual robbery", although incidents have happened in the past. For instance, the CEO of the sci-fi trading game Eve Online stole 200 billion "kredits"</p></div><p>That's completely different. The "theft" of the Eve credits was entirely in-game - arresting someone for that would be like bringing a case for murder against someone for in-game killing. The case in this article is about the theft (or more likely I should think either "obtaining services by deception" or "obtaining a pecuniary advantage by deception" - both crimes under the Theft Act but not actually theft themselves) of actual game accounts.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Security experts report that this is one of the first occasions when a Brit has been apprehended for " virtual robbery " , although incidents have happened in the past .
For instance , the CEO of the sci-fi trading game Eve Online stole 200 billion " kredits " That 's completely different .
The " theft " of the Eve credits was entirely in-game - arresting someone for that would be like bringing a case for murder against someone for in-game killing .
The case in this article is about the theft ( or more likely I should think either " obtaining services by deception " or " obtaining a pecuniary advantage by deception " - both crimes under the Theft Act but not actually theft themselves ) of actual game accounts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Security experts report that this is one of the first occasions when a Brit has been apprehended for "virtual robbery", although incidents have happened in the past.
For instance, the CEO of the sci-fi trading game Eve Online stole 200 billion "kredits"That's completely different.
The "theft" of the Eve credits was entirely in-game - arresting someone for that would be like bringing a case for murder against someone for in-game killing.
The case in this article is about the theft (or more likely I should think either "obtaining services by deception" or "obtaining a pecuniary advantage by deception" - both crimes under the Theft Act but not actually theft themselves) of actual game accounts.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30270286</id>
	<title>Re:Poster has it wrong...</title>
	<author>Adaeniel</author>
	<datestamp>1259598660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> stole isk (not "kredits")</p> </div><p>I believe that kredits would be fine in this case; the currency of the EVE universe is ISK, not isk.  It is capitalized because it is an abbreviation for interstellar kredits.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>stole isk ( not " kredits " ) I believe that kredits would be fine in this case ; the currency of the EVE universe is ISK , not isk .
It is capitalized because it is an abbreviation for interstellar kredits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> stole isk (not "kredits") I believe that kredits would be fine in this case; the currency of the EVE universe is ISK, not isk.
It is capitalized because it is an abbreviation for interstellar kredits.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269396</id>
	<title>What?</title>
	<author>sifRAWR</author>
	<datestamp>1259592600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I thought Jagex had already removed PvP combat?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought Jagex had already removed PvP combat ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought Jagex had already removed PvP combat?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30270532</id>
	<title>runescape is a scam</title>
	<author>wardk</author>
	<datestamp>1259600160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I unwittingly let my son play runescape, and even dumber paid for extra "gold".</p><p>here is how that process works.</p><p>1.  pay someone for gold.<br>2.  meet that person in the game, get the gold<br>3.  get robbed of the gold within minutes by another player<br>4.  repeat (if dumb enough to buy more gold)</p><p>I feel these online games exist for one reason, to create an environment where users can be scammed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I unwittingly let my son play runescape , and even dumber paid for extra " gold " .here is how that process works.1 .
pay someone for gold.2 .
meet that person in the game , get the gold3 .
get robbed of the gold within minutes by another player4 .
repeat ( if dumb enough to buy more gold ) I feel these online games exist for one reason , to create an environment where users can be scammed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I unwittingly let my son play runescape, and even dumber paid for extra "gold".here is how that process works.1.
pay someone for gold.2.
meet that person in the game, get the gold3.
get robbed of the gold within minutes by another player4.
repeat (if dumb enough to buy more gold)I feel these online games exist for one reason, to create an environment where users can be scammed.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1323202.30269452</id>
	<title>Re:Incorrect Summary</title>
	<author>Jellybob</author>
	<datestamp>1259593020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is possible they sold the ISK online, converting it into hard cash.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is possible they sold the ISK online , converting it into hard cash .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is possible they sold the ISK online, converting it into hard cash.</sentencetext>
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