<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_29_2212254</id>
	<title>Chrome OS, Present and Future</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1259495580000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Many readers are submitting stories related to Google Chrome OS. ruphus13 points out a GigaOm opinion piece about how, if users end up rejecting its current cloud-only focus, the nascent OS may <a href="http://gigaom.com/2009/11/29/netbooks-the-disruptive-dual-os-future/">succeed as a netbook secondary operating system</a> alongside Windows (in company with secondaries based on other Linux flavors, including Android). Engadget reviews a <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/24/chrome-os-like-lightning-from-a-usb-key-we-could-get-used-to-th/">Chrome OS on a USB key</a> setup that is claimed to offer eye-opening performance compared to running  under virtualization. And an anonymous reader notes the 0.1 beta release of <a href="http://www.inthebinaryrefinery.co.uk/blog/?page\_id=171">ChromeShell</a>, which installs a "Chrome OS-like" environment that boots to the Chrome browser in ~3 seconds; users can switch to Windows later as desired.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Many readers are submitting stories related to Google Chrome OS .
ruphus13 points out a GigaOm opinion piece about how , if users end up rejecting its current cloud-only focus , the nascent OS may succeed as a netbook secondary operating system alongside Windows ( in company with secondaries based on other Linux flavors , including Android ) .
Engadget reviews a Chrome OS on a USB key setup that is claimed to offer eye-opening performance compared to running under virtualization .
And an anonymous reader notes the 0.1 beta release of ChromeShell , which installs a " Chrome OS-like " environment that boots to the Chrome browser in ~ 3 seconds ; users can switch to Windows later as desired .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Many readers are submitting stories related to Google Chrome OS.
ruphus13 points out a GigaOm opinion piece about how, if users end up rejecting its current cloud-only focus, the nascent OS may succeed as a netbook secondary operating system alongside Windows (in company with secondaries based on other Linux flavors, including Android).
Engadget reviews a Chrome OS on a USB key setup that is claimed to offer eye-opening performance compared to running  under virtualization.
And an anonymous reader notes the 0.1 beta release of ChromeShell, which installs a "Chrome OS-like" environment that boots to the Chrome browser in ~3 seconds; users can switch to Windows later as desired.</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30267300</id>
	<title>Smoke a Fag this is toast</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259522340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So they just recompile Ubuntu and slap google on it.<br>Which is a recompiled Debian<br>Which is a recompiled Kernel<br>Which is a compiled program from some free unix clone<br>Which is a dream of a professor/hippie to emulate the brain of said hippie<br>sleepy</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So they just recompile Ubuntu and slap google on it.Which is a recompiled DebianWhich is a recompiled KernelWhich is a compiled program from some free unix cloneWhich is a dream of a professor/hippie to emulate the brain of said hippiesleepy</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So they just recompile Ubuntu and slap google on it.Which is a recompiled DebianWhich is a recompiled KernelWhich is a compiled program from some free unix cloneWhich is a dream of a professor/hippie to emulate the brain of said hippiesleepy</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30264850</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265206</id>
	<title>Why not just use a smart phone at that point?</title>
	<author>alvinrod</author>
	<datestamp>1259503200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why not just use a smart phone if 90\% of what you do is web browsing and email? Today's smart phones are capable of providing a good user experience for these tasks and if it's something the phone can't handle, the netbook probably can't either. I suppose the one major alternative is document editing, but who knows what phones will be capable of in the next few years.
<br> <br>
For me, netbooks fall into the overly-large phone or underpowered notebook category. If they work for you or your needs, great, but they don't fit the needs of everyone and I think that's something that too many people forget.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not just use a smart phone if 90 \ % of what you do is web browsing and email ?
Today 's smart phones are capable of providing a good user experience for these tasks and if it 's something the phone ca n't handle , the netbook probably ca n't either .
I suppose the one major alternative is document editing , but who knows what phones will be capable of in the next few years .
For me , netbooks fall into the overly-large phone or underpowered notebook category .
If they work for you or your needs , great , but they do n't fit the needs of everyone and I think that 's something that too many people forget .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not just use a smart phone if 90\% of what you do is web browsing and email?
Today's smart phones are capable of providing a good user experience for these tasks and if it's something the phone can't handle, the netbook probably can't either.
I suppose the one major alternative is document editing, but who knows what phones will be capable of in the next few years.
For me, netbooks fall into the overly-large phone or underpowered notebook category.
If they work for you or your needs, great, but they don't fit the needs of everyone and I think that's something that too many people forget.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30264876</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30269964</id>
	<title>HP's QuickWeb already offers this</title>
	<author>140Mandak262Jamuna</author>
	<datestamp>1259596740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>HP's netbooks are quietly shipping already with what HP calls "QuickWeb". It is essentially a splashtop linux distribution that boots up quickly and launches a browser. I am not sure if it is possible to kill the browser and get to linux or if it is possible to edit the init.rc files and stay in Linux. But a few user comments say that they have used QuickWeb so much they have not booted into full WinXP for quite some time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>HP 's netbooks are quietly shipping already with what HP calls " QuickWeb " .
It is essentially a splashtop linux distribution that boots up quickly and launches a browser .
I am not sure if it is possible to kill the browser and get to linux or if it is possible to edit the init.rc files and stay in Linux .
But a few user comments say that they have used QuickWeb so much they have not booted into full WinXP for quite some time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>HP's netbooks are quietly shipping already with what HP calls "QuickWeb".
It is essentially a splashtop linux distribution that boots up quickly and launches a browser.
I am not sure if it is possible to kill the browser and get to linux or if it is possible to edit the init.rc files and stay in Linux.
But a few user comments say that they have used QuickWeb so much they have not booted into full WinXP for quite some time.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30264876</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265276</id>
	<title>Re:Balanced approach to cloud computing</title>
	<author>AmberBlackCat</author>
	<datestamp>1259504280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Concerning the altering of a web browser to facilitate web apps, Microsoft did this a long time ago with Internet Explorer. And Mozilla tried to do it. If it was bad when they did it, how can it be good when Google does it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Concerning the altering of a web browser to facilitate web apps , Microsoft did this a long time ago with Internet Explorer .
And Mozilla tried to do it .
If it was bad when they did it , how can it be good when Google does it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Concerning the altering of a web browser to facilitate web apps, Microsoft did this a long time ago with Internet Explorer.
And Mozilla tried to do it.
If it was bad when they did it, how can it be good when Google does it?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30264920</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30267116</id>
	<title>Re:Cringely: Expect thermonuclear warfare over Chr</title>
	<author>bonch</author>
	<datestamp>1259520600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't think Microsoft is as worried as people think they are (or wish they are).  Netbooks are becoming powerful enough that Chrome OS will seem quaint and backwords because it can only open websites.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think Microsoft is as worried as people think they are ( or wish they are ) .
Netbooks are becoming powerful enough that Chrome OS will seem quaint and backwords because it can only open websites .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think Microsoft is as worried as people think they are (or wish they are).
Netbooks are becoming powerful enough that Chrome OS will seem quaint and backwords because it can only open websites.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265224</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30267484</id>
	<title>The Boulevard Of Broken Dreams</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1259524500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>"The most interesting part for me will be Microsoft's response."</i> </p><p>The WalMart shopper has spelled doom for every web appliance introduced to date.</p><p>His big expenses are in Internet services and consumables. Inks and papers. The thin client doesn't save him a lot of money.</p><p>His <b>mobile</b> Internet service options can be very limited and unreliable.</p><p>There are an increasing number of relatively low-cost gadgets competing for his attention:</p><p>E-book readers<br>GPS<br>Hand-held video game players<br>The iPod and and its competitors<br>Pocket camcorders and point-and-shoot digital cameras<br>Prepaid cell phones<br>The budget Windows netbook, laptop and desktop PC.</p><p>Which will run pretty much every Windows app he owns that was published in the last fifteen years.</p><p>WiFi radios<br>Etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" The most interesting part for me will be Microsoft 's response .
" The WalMart shopper has spelled doom for every web appliance introduced to date.His big expenses are in Internet services and consumables .
Inks and papers .
The thin client does n't save him a lot of money.His mobile Internet service options can be very limited and unreliable.There are an increasing number of relatively low-cost gadgets competing for his attention : E-book readersGPSHand-held video game playersThe iPod and and its competitorsPocket camcorders and point-and-shoot digital camerasPrepaid cell phonesThe budget Windows netbook , laptop and desktop PC.Which will run pretty much every Windows app he owns that was published in the last fifteen years.WiFi radiosEtc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The most interesting part for me will be Microsoft's response.
" The WalMart shopper has spelled doom for every web appliance introduced to date.His big expenses are in Internet services and consumables.
Inks and papers.
The thin client doesn't save him a lot of money.His mobile Internet service options can be very limited and unreliable.There are an increasing number of relatively low-cost gadgets competing for his attention:E-book readersGPSHand-held video game playersThe iPod and and its competitorsPocket camcorders and point-and-shoot digital camerasPrepaid cell phonesThe budget Windows netbook, laptop and desktop PC.Which will run pretty much every Windows app he owns that was published in the last fifteen years.WiFi radiosEtc.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265224</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30264876</id>
	<title>Useful</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259499660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If 90\% of what a user does is web browsing and email, that sounds like a good bet. If you push "on" and have it up and running in a few seconds, who would bother going into Windows? You'd only need to boot to Windows when doing some office work or the like, and that boot option would be a quick-click icon. If you primarily do office work with it, then you'd want a full-blown "regular" laptop anyhow instead of a netbook.</p><p>However, I imagine that Microsoft will find some way to sabotage multi-OS-boot options via screwy licensing and pricing games.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If 90 \ % of what a user does is web browsing and email , that sounds like a good bet .
If you push " on " and have it up and running in a few seconds , who would bother going into Windows ?
You 'd only need to boot to Windows when doing some office work or the like , and that boot option would be a quick-click icon .
If you primarily do office work with it , then you 'd want a full-blown " regular " laptop anyhow instead of a netbook.However , I imagine that Microsoft will find some way to sabotage multi-OS-boot options via screwy licensing and pricing games .
         </tokentext>
<sentencetext>If 90\% of what a user does is web browsing and email, that sounds like a good bet.
If you push "on" and have it up and running in a few seconds, who would bother going into Windows?
You'd only need to boot to Windows when doing some office work or the like, and that boot option would be a quick-click icon.
If you primarily do office work with it, then you'd want a full-blown "regular" laptop anyhow instead of a netbook.However, I imagine that Microsoft will find some way to sabotage multi-OS-boot options via screwy licensing and pricing games.
         </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30267542</id>
	<title>Re:ChromeShell looks like...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259611620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>ChromeShell looks like something I made in VB in like Grade 8. OLE controls anyone? (ahhh the memories)</p></div><p>enhancing...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>ChromeShell looks like something I made in VB in like Grade 8 .
OLE controls anyone ?
( ahhh the memories ) enhancing.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ChromeShell looks like something I made in VB in like Grade 8.
OLE controls anyone?
(ahhh the memories)enhancing...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30264964</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30270186</id>
	<title>Thin client sorta?</title>
	<author>u64</author>
	<datestamp>1259598060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isnt ChromeOS more aimed at replacing thin clients?<br>With the Cloud replacing the centralized Server.<br>No more need for expensive Server hardware.<br>No more need for expensive Server OS Licenses.<br>No more need for expensive Server Antivirus Licenses.<br>(No doubt this may cause Ballmer to sob his way to sleep<br>every night)</p><p>For all people that just want to write and surf and such,<br>COS would Check-Mate all Thin Clients and Ubuntu/XP/Vista/7.<br>(More sobbing)</p><p>People that need faster hardware, gamers and such dont need<br>to bother with COS.<br>(Happy Ballmer. For now)</p><p>Btw, could Chrome ever run WINE? What \_is\_ the Cloud? Flash? Java?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Isnt ChromeOS more aimed at replacing thin clients ? With the Cloud replacing the centralized Server.No more need for expensive Server hardware.No more need for expensive Server OS Licenses.No more need for expensive Server Antivirus Licenses .
( No doubt this may cause Ballmer to sob his way to sleepevery night ) For all people that just want to write and surf and such,COS would Check-Mate all Thin Clients and Ubuntu/XP/Vista/7 .
( More sobbing ) People that need faster hardware , gamers and such dont needto bother with COS. ( Happy Ballmer .
For now ) Btw , could Chrome ever run WINE ?
What \ _is \ _ the Cloud ?
Flash ? Java ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isnt ChromeOS more aimed at replacing thin clients?With the Cloud replacing the centralized Server.No more need for expensive Server hardware.No more need for expensive Server OS Licenses.No more need for expensive Server Antivirus Licenses.
(No doubt this may cause Ballmer to sob his way to sleepevery night)For all people that just want to write and surf and such,COS would Check-Mate all Thin Clients and Ubuntu/XP/Vista/7.
(More sobbing)People that need faster hardware, gamers and such dont needto bother with COS.(Happy Ballmer.
For now)Btw, could Chrome ever run WINE?
What \_is\_ the Cloud?
Flash? Java?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30264900</id>
	<title>Network Of Irrelevance - The Full Cycle</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259499780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have the sneaking suspicion that everyone good at Google left a long time ago; with bags of money.</p><p>Now, we're left with Adsense and the Marketing department rebranding the concept(s) behind [CompuServe/Prodigy Online/AOL Online] because people don't remember the 90's.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have the sneaking suspicion that everyone good at Google left a long time ago ; with bags of money.Now , we 're left with Adsense and the Marketing department rebranding the concept ( s ) behind [ CompuServe/Prodigy Online/AOL Online ] because people do n't remember the 90 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have the sneaking suspicion that everyone good at Google left a long time ago; with bags of money.Now, we're left with Adsense and the Marketing department rebranding the concept(s) behind [CompuServe/Prodigy Online/AOL Online] because people don't remember the 90's.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265238</id>
	<title>Don't see the point....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259503560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't really see the point in using Chrome OS rather than Windows or Ubuntu. Lets see, the boot up time is about the same (30 seconds), all the OSes have good browsers, Ubuntu is just as free as Chrome OS, etc. So really, why the hype about Chrome OS? You are essentially getting less than what you would get with a standard distro like Ubuntu, Fedora, Debian, etc.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't really see the point in using Chrome OS rather than Windows or Ubuntu .
Lets see , the boot up time is about the same ( 30 seconds ) , all the OSes have good browsers , Ubuntu is just as free as Chrome OS , etc .
So really , why the hype about Chrome OS ?
You are essentially getting less than what you would get with a standard distro like Ubuntu , Fedora , Debian , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't really see the point in using Chrome OS rather than Windows or Ubuntu.
Lets see, the boot up time is about the same (30 seconds), all the OSes have good browsers, Ubuntu is just as free as Chrome OS, etc.
So really, why the hype about Chrome OS?
You are essentially getting less than what you would get with a standard distro like Ubuntu, Fedora, Debian, etc.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30267760</id>
	<title>Re:False!</title>
	<author>MrNaz</author>
	<datestamp>1259614440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Power off to WinXP in 15 seconds? I call bull.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Power off to WinXP in 15 seconds ?
I call bull .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Power off to WinXP in 15 seconds?
I call bull.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265304</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265380</id>
	<title>Re:Don't see the point....</title>
	<author>bertoelcon</author>
	<datestamp>1259505780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Until it actually comes out Chrome OS is just running the hype machine. It seems to be on par with the iPhone on page hits so there will be many stories hyping it up and some calling out that not having your own data and everything is bad. I wouldn't put any real merit on what is being said about it until the market actually answers whether it's good or not.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Until it actually comes out Chrome OS is just running the hype machine .
It seems to be on par with the iPhone on page hits so there will be many stories hyping it up and some calling out that not having your own data and everything is bad .
I would n't put any real merit on what is being said about it until the market actually answers whether it 's good or not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Until it actually comes out Chrome OS is just running the hype machine.
It seems to be on par with the iPhone on page hits so there will be many stories hyping it up and some calling out that not having your own data and everything is bad.
I wouldn't put any real merit on what is being said about it until the market actually answers whether it's good or not.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265238</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265044</id>
	<title>Re:False!</title>
	<author>The MAZZTer</author>
	<datestamp>1259501340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>All it does is has Windows start the Chrome browser on startup instead of explorer.exe.  Not really much to see here, unless you REALLY don't need the taskbar, desktop, and file browsing capabilities of Explorer.</htmltext>
<tokenext>All it does is has Windows start the Chrome browser on startup instead of explorer.exe .
Not really much to see here , unless you REALLY do n't need the taskbar , desktop , and file browsing capabilities of Explorer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All it does is has Windows start the Chrome browser on startup instead of explorer.exe.
Not really much to see here, unless you REALLY don't need the taskbar, desktop, and file browsing capabilities of Explorer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30264850</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30269002</id>
	<title>World of Warcraft</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259589240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can it run WoW yet?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can it run WoW yet ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can it run WoW yet?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30269960</id>
	<title>Re:Cringely: Expect thermonuclear warfare over Chr</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259596740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why again are we listening to Cringely? When has he been correct about *anything*?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why again are we listening to Cringely ?
When has he been correct about * anything * ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why again are we listening to Cringely?
When has he been correct about *anything*?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265224</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265124</id>
	<title>nascent</title>
	<author>glwtta</author>
	<datestamp>1259502120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The word you were looking for is "nascent".</htmltext>
<tokenext>The word you were looking for is " nascent " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The word you were looking for is "nascent".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265492</id>
	<title>But Chrome boots in 5s</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259507220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Lets see, the boot up time is about the same (30 seconds)</p></div><p>Chrome OS's claimed boot time is actually in the neighborhood of 5 seconds. That's cold boot, not wake up from suspend. So there's a real benefit there. (Note: I haven't actually run the OS. But the videos I have seen from different sources appear to confirm this not-quite instant-on boot speed.) If Google can maintain or even improve this boot time, then I see a significant chunk of the social net-crowd embracing this new OS.

If the power switch is smartly linked to the opening of the netbook cover, at 5 seconds we practically already have an instant-on OS. Open the computer, look up to see if there are nosy people around, and then look down to type your password.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lets see , the boot up time is about the same ( 30 seconds ) Chrome OS 's claimed boot time is actually in the neighborhood of 5 seconds .
That 's cold boot , not wake up from suspend .
So there 's a real benefit there .
( Note : I have n't actually run the OS .
But the videos I have seen from different sources appear to confirm this not-quite instant-on boot speed .
) If Google can maintain or even improve this boot time , then I see a significant chunk of the social net-crowd embracing this new OS .
If the power switch is smartly linked to the opening of the netbook cover , at 5 seconds we practically already have an instant-on OS .
Open the computer , look up to see if there are nosy people around , and then look down to type your password .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lets see, the boot up time is about the same (30 seconds)Chrome OS's claimed boot time is actually in the neighborhood of 5 seconds.
That's cold boot, not wake up from suspend.
So there's a real benefit there.
(Note: I haven't actually run the OS.
But the videos I have seen from different sources appear to confirm this not-quite instant-on boot speed.
) If Google can maintain or even improve this boot time, then I see a significant chunk of the social net-crowd embracing this new OS.
If the power switch is smartly linked to the opening of the netbook cover, at 5 seconds we practically already have an instant-on OS.
Open the computer, look up to see if there are nosy people around, and then look down to type your password.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30269534</id>
	<title>all your data in the cloud</title>
	<author>viralMeme</author>
	<datestamp>1259593680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"I'm already questioning whether the extremely autocratic "<a href="http://gigaom.com/2009/11/29/netbooks-the-disruptive-dual-os-future/" title="gigaom.com">all data in the cloud</a> [gigaom.com]" model that Google is pursuing will alienate users. I question whether people trust the cloud to that extent, and I know I love many of my local software applications and utilities"<br> <br>

Why not run your apps and your data from a <a href="http://www.ghacks.net/2009/09/24/how-to-create-a-bootable-usb-ubuntu-drive/" title="ghacks.net">portable USB device</a> [ghacks.net].</htmltext>
<tokenext>" I 'm already questioning whether the extremely autocratic " all data in the cloud [ gigaom.com ] " model that Google is pursuing will alienate users .
I question whether people trust the cloud to that extent , and I know I love many of my local software applications and utilities " Why not run your apps and your data from a portable USB device [ ghacks.net ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I'm already questioning whether the extremely autocratic "all data in the cloud [gigaom.com]" model that Google is pursuing will alienate users.
I question whether people trust the cloud to that extent, and I know I love many of my local software applications and utilities" 

Why not run your apps and your data from a portable USB device [ghacks.net].</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30267058</id>
	<title>You're breaking the hype</title>
	<author>bonch</author>
	<datestamp>1259520060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Stop!  If you keep breaking the hype with facts like that, people might realize Chrome OS is a pointless Google-branded Linux distro that can't run anything but websites in a world where even mobile phones can run native apps.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Stop !
If you keep breaking the hype with facts like that , people might realize Chrome OS is a pointless Google-branded Linux distro that ca n't run anything but websites in a world where even mobile phones can run native apps .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stop!
If you keep breaking the hype with facts like that, people might realize Chrome OS is a pointless Google-branded Linux distro that can't run anything but websites in a world where even mobile phones can run native apps.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30264850</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30266124</id>
	<title>Re:False!</title>
	<author>sootman</author>
	<datestamp>1259511840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>BeOS FTW. Loaded in 10 seconds after POST on a 300 MHz K6/2 Compaq with 48 MB RAM. Ten years ago. Yes, new OSs do more, but the point of Chrome is to be a stripped-down OS that runs nothing but a browser, unlike BeOS which had a webserver, 3D support, and lots of other good stuff going on.</p><p>Oh, and the first PC I used (an AT or XT, 8086 or 8088, I forget) went from power off to a C: prompt in 7 seconds. And QNX has done some cool stuff too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>BeOS FTW .
Loaded in 10 seconds after POST on a 300 MHz K6/2 Compaq with 48 MB RAM .
Ten years ago .
Yes , new OSs do more , but the point of Chrome is to be a stripped-down OS that runs nothing but a browser , unlike BeOS which had a webserver , 3D support , and lots of other good stuff going on.Oh , and the first PC I used ( an AT or XT , 8086 or 8088 , I forget ) went from power off to a C : prompt in 7 seconds .
And QNX has done some cool stuff too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>BeOS FTW.
Loaded in 10 seconds after POST on a 300 MHz K6/2 Compaq with 48 MB RAM.
Ten years ago.
Yes, new OSs do more, but the point of Chrome is to be a stripped-down OS that runs nothing but a browser, unlike BeOS which had a webserver, 3D support, and lots of other good stuff going on.Oh, and the first PC I used (an AT or XT, 8086 or 8088, I forget) went from power off to a C: prompt in 7 seconds.
And QNX has done some cool stuff too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30264846</id>
	<title>w00t</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259499300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>first post</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>first post</tokentext>
<sentencetext>first post</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265286</id>
	<title>Re:Don't see the point....</title>
	<author>Tynin</author>
	<datestamp>1259504400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sometimes less is more, I know that is exactly why I starting using Google search was its minimalistic approach to its front page. Most people that this would be targeting aren't going to be Linux OS nerds, yet I imagine if anyone can pull off the Year of the Linux Desktop, it would be Google. I just don't think it will be the Linux Desktop most of us had envisioned.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sometimes less is more , I know that is exactly why I starting using Google search was its minimalistic approach to its front page .
Most people that this would be targeting are n't going to be Linux OS nerds , yet I imagine if anyone can pull off the Year of the Linux Desktop , it would be Google .
I just do n't think it will be the Linux Desktop most of us had envisioned .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sometimes less is more, I know that is exactly why I starting using Google search was its minimalistic approach to its front page.
Most people that this would be targeting aren't going to be Linux OS nerds, yet I imagine if anyone can pull off the Year of the Linux Desktop, it would be Google.
I just don't think it will be the Linux Desktop most of us had envisioned.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265238</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30266072</id>
	<title>Re:False!</title>
	<author>muncadunc</author>
	<datestamp>1259511480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thing is, the time it takes for the Explorer shell itself to load on my laptop is almost nil compared to actual bootup (30s or so). I don't see the advantage of loading Chrome in its place- it's not like RAM is pricey these days, you can afford to run both at once.
<br> <br>If we're going to get instant-on on laptops and netbooks, it's going to be through some sort of super-energy efficient sleep mode that you can return from fast, not through fast bootup speeds. That's the nice thing about Apple hardware- it's always very good about waking almost instantly from sleep, while my Windows laptop takes about five seconds.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thing is , the time it takes for the Explorer shell itself to load on my laptop is almost nil compared to actual bootup ( 30s or so ) .
I do n't see the advantage of loading Chrome in its place- it 's not like RAM is pricey these days , you can afford to run both at once .
If we 're going to get instant-on on laptops and netbooks , it 's going to be through some sort of super-energy efficient sleep mode that you can return from fast , not through fast bootup speeds .
That 's the nice thing about Apple hardware- it 's always very good about waking almost instantly from sleep , while my Windows laptop takes about five seconds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thing is, the time it takes for the Explorer shell itself to load on my laptop is almost nil compared to actual bootup (30s or so).
I don't see the advantage of loading Chrome in its place- it's not like RAM is pricey these days, you can afford to run both at once.
If we're going to get instant-on on laptops and netbooks, it's going to be through some sort of super-energy efficient sleep mode that you can return from fast, not through fast bootup speeds.
That's the nice thing about Apple hardware- it's always very good about waking almost instantly from sleep, while my Windows laptop takes about five seconds.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30264850</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30269422</id>
	<title>Be Wary my Firends</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259592900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes. Put everything in the cloud. And when there is a massive failure at Google, because everything eventually fails. Where will all of the user's data be? Instead of distributed amongst millions of clients, it'll all be in one big mess in the cloud and if it gets wiped out, then it might as well be the library at Alexandria burning down.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes .
Put everything in the cloud .
And when there is a massive failure at Google , because everything eventually fails .
Where will all of the user 's data be ?
Instead of distributed amongst millions of clients , it 'll all be in one big mess in the cloud and if it gets wiped out , then it might as well be the library at Alexandria burning down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes.
Put everything in the cloud.
And when there is a massive failure at Google, because everything eventually fails.
Where will all of the user's data be?
Instead of distributed amongst millions of clients, it'll all be in one big mess in the cloud and if it gets wiped out, then it might as well be the library at Alexandria burning down.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30266026</id>
	<title>Re:False!</title>
	<author>srothroc</author>
	<datestamp>1259511120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Certainly not the normal case here, but I have a laptop with an i7; I hit the login screen around 7-9 seconds after pressing the power button.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Certainly not the normal case here , but I have a laptop with an i7 ; I hit the login screen around 7-9 seconds after pressing the power button .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Certainly not the normal case here, but I have a laptop with an i7; I hit the login screen around 7-9 seconds after pressing the power button.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265468</id>
	<title>Re:Useful</title>
	<author>tnordloh</author>
	<datestamp>1259506920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This article prompted me to download Chrome OS, I just started it on a VM.  I'm currently bemused by the fact that it doesn't recognize the https certificate for mail.google.com (wow!  Either I'm hacked in a seriously bad way, or it really doesn't recognize a cert issued by the company that wrote it.  Suddenly I'm feeling paranoid).  I'm typing this on my native OS, as the vm appears to be frozen.  I'm debating logging into mail.google.com, and unchecking 'always use https', to give it a more fair test, but my interest is waning.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This article prompted me to download Chrome OS , I just started it on a VM .
I 'm currently bemused by the fact that it does n't recognize the https certificate for mail.google.com ( wow !
Either I 'm hacked in a seriously bad way , or it really does n't recognize a cert issued by the company that wrote it .
Suddenly I 'm feeling paranoid ) .
I 'm typing this on my native OS , as the vm appears to be frozen .
I 'm debating logging into mail.google.com , and unchecking 'always use https ' , to give it a more fair test , but my interest is waning .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This article prompted me to download Chrome OS, I just started it on a VM.
I'm currently bemused by the fact that it doesn't recognize the https certificate for mail.google.com (wow!
Either I'm hacked in a seriously bad way, or it really doesn't recognize a cert issued by the company that wrote it.
Suddenly I'm feeling paranoid).
I'm typing this on my native OS, as the vm appears to be frozen.
I'm debating logging into mail.google.com, and unchecking 'always use https', to give it a more fair test, but my interest is waning.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30264876</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265430</id>
	<title>Re:Don't see the point....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259506440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Most of my family and friends are not techies or geeks.  They only use their computer for email, web/facebook and passing pics around.  These are the same people asking me if a $400 laptop Black Friday deal from Wal-Mart would work to replace their (aging) desktop and they won't listen to me when I tell them to get a used one for $50 on e-bay.  I'd tell every single one of them to get a ChromeOS net appliance if it were available.

You said <p><div class="quote"><p>You are essentially getting less than what you would get with a standard distro like Ubuntu, Fedora, Debian, etc.</p></div><p>We on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. often forget on there are many people who NEED less.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most of my family and friends are not techies or geeks .
They only use their computer for email , web/facebook and passing pics around .
These are the same people asking me if a $ 400 laptop Black Friday deal from Wal-Mart would work to replace their ( aging ) desktop and they wo n't listen to me when I tell them to get a used one for $ 50 on e-bay .
I 'd tell every single one of them to get a ChromeOS net appliance if it were available .
You said You are essentially getting less than what you would get with a standard distro like Ubuntu , Fedora , Debian , etc.We on / .
often forget on there are many people who NEED less .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most of my family and friends are not techies or geeks.
They only use their computer for email, web/facebook and passing pics around.
These are the same people asking me if a $400 laptop Black Friday deal from Wal-Mart would work to replace their (aging) desktop and they won't listen to me when I tell them to get a used one for $50 on e-bay.
I'd tell every single one of them to get a ChromeOS net appliance if it were available.
You said You are essentially getting less than what you would get with a standard distro like Ubuntu, Fedora, Debian, etc.We on /.
often forget on there are many people who NEED less.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265016</id>
	<title>Re:False!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259501040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Good point, I have Win 7 on a Dell Mini 10 with 1GB of RAM, it boots to the login screen in about 30 seconds and comes out of standby mode in about 5 seconds. Considering how much more it is actually loading on Windows, it seems Google still has a long way to go until instant on is a reality.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Good point , I have Win 7 on a Dell Mini 10 with 1GB of RAM , it boots to the login screen in about 30 seconds and comes out of standby mode in about 5 seconds .
Considering how much more it is actually loading on Windows , it seems Google still has a long way to go until instant on is a reality .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good point, I have Win 7 on a Dell Mini 10 with 1GB of RAM, it boots to the login screen in about 30 seconds and comes out of standby mode in about 5 seconds.
Considering how much more it is actually loading on Windows, it seems Google still has a long way to go until instant on is a reality.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30264850</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265210</id>
	<title>Who gives a fuck?</title>
	<author>nhytefall</author>
	<datestamp>1259503200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Honestly?
<br> <br>
Aside from the latest, greatest, shiniest geek toy... this thing isn't even in a beta state, yet somehow it is going to reshape the industry?  I think not.
<br> <br>
Come out of the basement, folks... the sun here in a real world only hurts for a moment or two.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Honestly ?
Aside from the latest , greatest , shiniest geek toy... this thing is n't even in a beta state , yet somehow it is going to reshape the industry ?
I think not .
Come out of the basement , folks... the sun here in a real world only hurts for a moment or two .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Honestly?
Aside from the latest, greatest, shiniest geek toy... this thing isn't even in a beta state, yet somehow it is going to reshape the industry?
I think not.
Come out of the basement, folks... the sun here in a real world only hurts for a moment or two.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265224</id>
	<title>Cringely: Expect thermonuclear warfare over Chrome</title>
	<author>theodp</author>
	<datestamp>1259503380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From <a href="http://www.cringely.com/2009/11/chrome-and-chrome-what-is-chrome/" title="cringely.com">Chrome and Chrome, What is Chrome?</a> [cringely.com]: "The most interesting part for me will be Microsoft's response. This strikes at the very heart of Redmond's business success and Microsoft will not take it lying down. Expect thermonuclear warfare."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From Chrome and Chrome , What is Chrome ?
[ cringely.com ] : " The most interesting part for me will be Microsoft 's response .
This strikes at the very heart of Redmond 's business success and Microsoft will not take it lying down .
Expect thermonuclear warfare .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From Chrome and Chrome, What is Chrome?
[cringely.com]: "The most interesting part for me will be Microsoft's response.
This strikes at the very heart of Redmond's business success and Microsoft will not take it lying down.
Expect thermonuclear warfare.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30264976</id>
	<title>Re:Useful</title>
	<author>StreetStealth</author>
	<datestamp>1259500560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't think ChromeOS will catch on as an "early boot" option any more than some of the options the BIOS manufacturers have been pitching for a few years. The benefits of ChromeOS are pretty much mitigated by sticking it on a full laptop -- you're lugging a fully-featured computer around  and you don't have access to any of it, and you could get the whole thing just by waiting around another 30 seconds.</p><p>ChromeOS is about having a bare minimum of hardware required to have a smooth internet experience. It's about the <i>proliferation</i> of internet access, always having something nearby that will connect you to whatever you're looking for.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think ChromeOS will catch on as an " early boot " option any more than some of the options the BIOS manufacturers have been pitching for a few years .
The benefits of ChromeOS are pretty much mitigated by sticking it on a full laptop -- you 're lugging a fully-featured computer around and you do n't have access to any of it , and you could get the whole thing just by waiting around another 30 seconds.ChromeOS is about having a bare minimum of hardware required to have a smooth internet experience .
It 's about the proliferation of internet access , always having something nearby that will connect you to whatever you 're looking for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think ChromeOS will catch on as an "early boot" option any more than some of the options the BIOS manufacturers have been pitching for a few years.
The benefits of ChromeOS are pretty much mitigated by sticking it on a full laptop -- you're lugging a fully-featured computer around  and you don't have access to any of it, and you could get the whole thing just by waiting around another 30 seconds.ChromeOS is about having a bare minimum of hardware required to have a smooth internet experience.
It's about the proliferation of internet access, always having something nearby that will connect you to whatever you're looking for.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30264876</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265042</id>
	<title>just speed?</title>
	<author>RiotingPacifist</author>
	<datestamp>1259501280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is much more to Chrome than it's fast boot, most of that is because it's cloud based not inspite of it, most users don't want/need to have control of their data/applications.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is much more to Chrome than it 's fast boot , most of that is because it 's cloud based not inspite of it , most users do n't want/need to have control of their data/applications .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is much more to Chrome than it's fast boot, most of that is because it's cloud based not inspite of it, most users don't want/need to have control of their data/applications.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30268692</id>
	<title>Re:False!</title>
	<author>gargll</author>
	<datestamp>1259584500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If you read the linked ChromeShell page, it says it goes from <i>standby</i> to the Chrome browser in 3 seconds.

It actually takes 30 seconds to boot, which isn't much better than Windows.  Actually, is that even better?</p></div><p>From the linked ChromeShell page: "ChromeShell is a non-google affiliated replacement shell for windows", ie. this \_is\_ windows, which would explain why it's not much better than windows. Any observed gain would be linked to the presumably lighter ui of this new shell. Since, this has nothing to do with google's chrome-os appart for the fact that it copies its interface, no performance implication should be derived from it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you read the linked ChromeShell page , it says it goes from standby to the Chrome browser in 3 seconds .
It actually takes 30 seconds to boot , which is n't much better than Windows .
Actually , is that even better ? From the linked ChromeShell page : " ChromeShell is a non-google affiliated replacement shell for windows " , ie .
this \ _is \ _ windows , which would explain why it 's not much better than windows .
Any observed gain would be linked to the presumably lighter ui of this new shell .
Since , this has nothing to do with google 's chrome-os appart for the fact that it copies its interface , no performance implication should be derived from it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you read the linked ChromeShell page, it says it goes from standby to the Chrome browser in 3 seconds.
It actually takes 30 seconds to boot, which isn't much better than Windows.
Actually, is that even better?From the linked ChromeShell page: "ChromeShell is a non-google affiliated replacement shell for windows", ie.
this \_is\_ windows, which would explain why it's not much better than windows.
Any observed gain would be linked to the presumably lighter ui of this new shell.
Since, this has nothing to do with google's chrome-os appart for the fact that it copies its interface, no performance implication should be derived from it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30264850</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30270478</id>
	<title>Re:Balanced approach to cloud computing</title>
	<author>teh kurisu</author>
	<datestamp>1259599920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Google is mistaken in their mission to turn every consumer and business class PC into a thin client.</p></div> </blockquote><p>You mean in the same way that Tesla wants to replace every car on the road with a battery powered two seater sports car?</p><p>Google is taking an incredible amount of flak for offering an alternative, it seems.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google is mistaken in their mission to turn every consumer and business class PC into a thin client .
You mean in the same way that Tesla wants to replace every car on the road with a battery powered two seater sports car ? Google is taking an incredible amount of flak for offering an alternative , it seems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google is mistaken in their mission to turn every consumer and business class PC into a thin client.
You mean in the same way that Tesla wants to replace every car on the road with a battery powered two seater sports car?Google is taking an incredible amount of flak for offering an alternative, it seems.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30264920</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265304</id>
	<title>Re:False!</title>
	<author>jo42</author>
	<datestamp>1259504640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a three year old Dell Inspiron 6400 (with a 160GB 5400RPM 2.5" HD) that boots Windows XP SP3 from power off to desktop in 15 seconds.</p><p>What are you people doing wrong?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a three year old Dell Inspiron 6400 ( with a 160GB 5400RPM 2.5 " HD ) that boots Windows XP SP3 from power off to desktop in 15 seconds.What are you people doing wrong ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a three year old Dell Inspiron 6400 (with a 160GB 5400RPM 2.5" HD) that boots Windows XP SP3 from power off to desktop in 15 seconds.What are you people doing wrong?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265016</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30264920</id>
	<title>Balanced approach to cloud computing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259499960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>An ideal approach is an OS that's *more* focused on the cloud, rather than *entirely* focused. I use many cloud apps with Chrome's current "Web Shortcuts" feature which removes browser elements from view and presents the web app much like a native one. This approach is used in several Linux cloud distributions already. Google is mistaken in their mission to turn every consumer and business class PC into a thin client.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>An ideal approach is an OS that 's * more * focused on the cloud , rather than * entirely * focused .
I use many cloud apps with Chrome 's current " Web Shortcuts " feature which removes browser elements from view and presents the web app much like a native one .
This approach is used in several Linux cloud distributions already .
Google is mistaken in their mission to turn every consumer and business class PC into a thin client .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An ideal approach is an OS that's *more* focused on the cloud, rather than *entirely* focused.
I use many cloud apps with Chrome's current "Web Shortcuts" feature which removes browser elements from view and presents the web app much like a native one.
This approach is used in several Linux cloud distributions already.
Google is mistaken in their mission to turn every consumer and business class PC into a thin client.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30267444</id>
	<title>Re:Cringely: Expect thermonuclear warfare over Chr</title>
	<author>yuhong</author>
	<datestamp>1259523960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yep, particularly since Netscape had a similar vision of reducing Windows to just "a buggy set of drivers".</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep , particularly since Netscape had a similar vision of reducing Windows to just " a buggy set of drivers " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep, particularly since Netscape had a similar vision of reducing Windows to just "a buggy set of drivers".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265224</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265330</id>
	<title>Re:Balanced approach to cloud computing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259505180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>An ideal approach is an OS that's *more* focused on the cloud, rather than *entirely* focused.</p></div><p>You mean Plan 9?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>An ideal approach is an OS that 's * more * focused on the cloud , rather than * entirely * focused.You mean Plan 9 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An ideal approach is an OS that's *more* focused on the cloud, rather than *entirely* focused.You mean Plan 9?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30264920</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30264844</id>
	<title>need-a-subject-to-post</title>
	<author>Ricken</author>
	<datestamp>1259499300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A very good idea. If I'm carrying a laptop around and I suddenly feel like looking at some porn, I can just boot Chrome instead of Windows.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A very good idea .
If I 'm carrying a laptop around and I suddenly feel like looking at some porn , I can just boot Chrome instead of Windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A very good idea.
If I'm carrying a laptop around and I suddenly feel like looking at some porn, I can just boot Chrome instead of Windows.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30272206</id>
	<title>Re:False!</title>
	<author>mirshafie</author>
	<datestamp>1259608440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>ChromeShell is a Shell for Windows. Therefore Windows needs to load before the Shell can load. ChromeShell will only decrease the time of logging in (which can be a LOT on many Windows machines), not the time to boot.</htmltext>
<tokenext>ChromeShell is a Shell for Windows .
Therefore Windows needs to load before the Shell can load .
ChromeShell will only decrease the time of logging in ( which can be a LOT on many Windows machines ) , not the time to boot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ChromeShell is a Shell for Windows.
Therefore Windows needs to load before the Shell can load.
ChromeShell will only decrease the time of logging in (which can be a LOT on many Windows machines), not the time to boot.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30264850</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30264970</id>
	<title>Presents and Futures</title>
	<author>Psychotria</author>
	<datestamp>1259500440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Presents and Futures... what the heck is that supposed to mean?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Presents and Futures... what the heck is that supposed to mean ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Presents and Futures... what the heck is that supposed to mean?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265500</id>
	<title>Re:Why not just use a smart phone at that point?</title>
	<author>Yvan256</author>
	<datestamp>1259507280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I sure wouldn't want to use a smart phone 90\% of the day. It doesn't matter which cellphone you think is the best, the display and keyboard are going to be too small.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I sure would n't want to use a smart phone 90 \ % of the day .
It does n't matter which cellphone you think is the best , the display and keyboard are going to be too small .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I sure wouldn't want to use a smart phone 90\% of the day.
It doesn't matter which cellphone you think is the best, the display and keyboard are going to be too small.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265206</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265582</id>
	<title>Re:So far, I like it</title>
	<author>Logic Worshipper</author>
	<datestamp>1259508180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe google will provide a service for that.  It'll even save all your ssh keys and passwords!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe google will provide a service for that .
It 'll even save all your ssh keys and passwords !
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe google will provide a service for that.
It'll even save all your ssh keys and passwords!
:)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265302</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30267376</id>
	<title>mod 0p</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259523180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>and ex3Cutes a</htmltext>
<tokenext>and ex3Cutes a</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and ex3Cutes a</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265302</id>
	<title>So far, I like it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259504640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have Chrome OS running on VirtualBox - works as advertised, and when it is solid I'll probably buy a low cost device running it for travel, web browsing around the house and yard, etc.</p><p>I am hoping that it will eventually include a *great* xterm app with SSH support so it can also be used to monitor servers, and light weight admin work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have Chrome OS running on VirtualBox - works as advertised , and when it is solid I 'll probably buy a low cost device running it for travel , web browsing around the house and yard , etc.I am hoping that it will eventually include a * great * xterm app with SSH support so it can also be used to monitor servers , and light weight admin work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have Chrome OS running on VirtualBox - works as advertised, and when it is solid I'll probably buy a low cost device running it for travel, web browsing around the house and yard, etc.I am hoping that it will eventually include a *great* xterm app with SSH support so it can also be used to monitor servers, and light weight admin work.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30264964</id>
	<title>ChromeShell looks like...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259500440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>ChromeShell looks like something I made in VB in like Grade 8. OLE controls anyone? (ahhh the memories)</htmltext>
<tokenext>ChromeShell looks like something I made in VB in like Grade 8 .
OLE controls anyone ?
( ahhh the memories )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ChromeShell looks like something I made in VB in like Grade 8.
OLE controls anyone?
(ahhh the memories)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30267218</id>
	<title>Chrome OS boots to login in 7 seconds</title>
	<author>osssmkatz</author>
	<datestamp>1259521560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>not 30. Chrome Shell boots in 30.

--Sam</htmltext>
<tokenext>not 30 .
Chrome Shell boots in 30 .
--Sam</tokentext>
<sentencetext>not 30.
Chrome Shell boots in 30.
--Sam</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265238</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30271968</id>
	<title>Nacent?</title>
	<author>Wowlapalooza</author>
	<datestamp>1259607300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One derivation I found for the word "nacent" was Scottish "na-cent", i.e. "not a cent", i.e. poor.</p><p>I don't think the Slashdot article submitter meant to imply that ChromeOS was "poor". Methinks they meant "nascent". That would make a lot more sense (cents?)..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One derivation I found for the word " nacent " was Scottish " na-cent " , i.e .
" not a cent " , i.e .
poor.I do n't think the Slashdot article submitter meant to imply that ChromeOS was " poor " .
Methinks they meant " nascent " .
That would make a lot more sense ( cents ?
) . .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One derivation I found for the word "nacent" was Scottish "na-cent", i.e.
"not a cent", i.e.
poor.I don't think the Slashdot article submitter meant to imply that ChromeOS was "poor".
Methinks they meant "nascent".
That would make a lot more sense (cents?
)..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30268574</id>
	<title>Re:Don't see the point....</title>
	<author>Ed Avis</author>
	<datestamp>1259582700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Your family and friends never want to plug their camera into the computer and download photos?  Or upload music to their iPod?  Those are two common tasks that, so far, can't be done using just a Web browser.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Your family and friends never want to plug their camera into the computer and download photos ?
Or upload music to their iPod ?
Those are two common tasks that , so far , ca n't be done using just a Web browser .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your family and friends never want to plug their camera into the computer and download photos?
Or upload music to their iPod?
Those are two common tasks that, so far, can't be done using just a Web browser.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265430</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265464</id>
	<title>Re:False!</title>
	<author>chabotc</author>
	<datestamp>1259506860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of course if you even read the slashdot summary you would see that ChromeShell is a 'ChromeOS like' type thing, and not ChromeOS at all.</p><p>ChromeOS boots (that's full bootup and not resuming) in 7 seconds, and resumes in 3. They're working with bios firmware vendors to improve this though so boot times could become even less</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course if you even read the slashdot summary you would see that ChromeShell is a 'ChromeOS like ' type thing , and not ChromeOS at all.ChromeOS boots ( that 's full bootup and not resuming ) in 7 seconds , and resumes in 3 .
They 're working with bios firmware vendors to improve this though so boot times could become even less</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course if you even read the slashdot summary you would see that ChromeShell is a 'ChromeOS like' type thing, and not ChromeOS at all.ChromeOS boots (that's full bootup and not resuming) in 7 seconds, and resumes in 3.
They're working with bios firmware vendors to improve this though so boot times could become even less</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265016</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265568</id>
	<title>Does ChromeOS need Linux?</title>
	<author>OrangeTide</author>
	<datestamp>1259508060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It seems if you are aiming to have a very narrow and specific design to your system, a general purpose Unix work-a-like is overkill. Wouldn't a minimal POSIX-ish system with some graphical operations be sufficient. It's great to use something familiar and actively developed like Linux. Just for the device drivers alone it is pretty valuable. But after digging into the Plan9 kernel, I realize that most of these drivers are not really that complicated if you can accept a basic level of functionality and less than optimal level of performance. (like the nvidia drivers in Plan9, it's only one short<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.c file, and just enough to get 9wm up and going). Even something like L4 is overkill, a lot of the cool abstraction it offers is probably not necessary if you can just wedge it into a library.</p><p>Many of us on here have hacked together little pseudo-kernels. Glorified Hello World bootloaders really. If you had a TCP/IP stack, using an existing one like KAME or uIP, or a new implementation (I don't care which) and a filesystem that is more like a simple memory mapped key-value pair database (using critbit, hash table, b+tree, whatever). it seems to me that would be enough to get something like WebKit going.</p><p>What value would a custom kernel/OS have over a specialized Linux? Well I think you could focus on implementing abstractions most suitable for a browser instead of trying to fit a filesystem or sqlite library to your design. Mostly I suspect you could optimize the boot of a very primitive system pretty easily. And you could do things where isolation of the browser in memory can be done in a way much finer grain than the Unix scheme of dividing everything into a user process or kernel mode thread.</p><p>Perhaps the browser would be more like a root user, but individual tabs would have permissions controlled by a kernel or hypervisor that would be in isolation of one another. One page may not be able to hijack the rest of your browser or access cookies or passwords unless specifically authorized. And it could be done in such a way that is still relatively fast and low overhead, but more secure than current schemes.</p><p>Imagine if plug-ins like flash and video codecs had to run through a socket or some fast IPC messaging scheme. where you could just close it to force the process on the end to shut down.</p><p>Why don't I implement it you ask? Well assuming I have the skills necessary to do a good job, and the ambition to complete such a task. I'm too old school to accept the idea that a system where the only application is a browser is useful to me personally. Maybe when kernel development becomes browser based?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems if you are aiming to have a very narrow and specific design to your system , a general purpose Unix work-a-like is overkill .
Would n't a minimal POSIX-ish system with some graphical operations be sufficient .
It 's great to use something familiar and actively developed like Linux .
Just for the device drivers alone it is pretty valuable .
But after digging into the Plan9 kernel , I realize that most of these drivers are not really that complicated if you can accept a basic level of functionality and less than optimal level of performance .
( like the nvidia drivers in Plan9 , it 's only one short .c file , and just enough to get 9wm up and going ) .
Even something like L4 is overkill , a lot of the cool abstraction it offers is probably not necessary if you can just wedge it into a library.Many of us on here have hacked together little pseudo-kernels .
Glorified Hello World bootloaders really .
If you had a TCP/IP stack , using an existing one like KAME or uIP , or a new implementation ( I do n't care which ) and a filesystem that is more like a simple memory mapped key-value pair database ( using critbit , hash table , b + tree , whatever ) .
it seems to me that would be enough to get something like WebKit going.What value would a custom kernel/OS have over a specialized Linux ?
Well I think you could focus on implementing abstractions most suitable for a browser instead of trying to fit a filesystem or sqlite library to your design .
Mostly I suspect you could optimize the boot of a very primitive system pretty easily .
And you could do things where isolation of the browser in memory can be done in a way much finer grain than the Unix scheme of dividing everything into a user process or kernel mode thread.Perhaps the browser would be more like a root user , but individual tabs would have permissions controlled by a kernel or hypervisor that would be in isolation of one another .
One page may not be able to hijack the rest of your browser or access cookies or passwords unless specifically authorized .
And it could be done in such a way that is still relatively fast and low overhead , but more secure than current schemes.Imagine if plug-ins like flash and video codecs had to run through a socket or some fast IPC messaging scheme .
where you could just close it to force the process on the end to shut down.Why do n't I implement it you ask ?
Well assuming I have the skills necessary to do a good job , and the ambition to complete such a task .
I 'm too old school to accept the idea that a system where the only application is a browser is useful to me personally .
Maybe when kernel development becomes browser based ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems if you are aiming to have a very narrow and specific design to your system, a general purpose Unix work-a-like is overkill.
Wouldn't a minimal POSIX-ish system with some graphical operations be sufficient.
It's great to use something familiar and actively developed like Linux.
Just for the device drivers alone it is pretty valuable.
But after digging into the Plan9 kernel, I realize that most of these drivers are not really that complicated if you can accept a basic level of functionality and less than optimal level of performance.
(like the nvidia drivers in Plan9, it's only one short .c file, and just enough to get 9wm up and going).
Even something like L4 is overkill, a lot of the cool abstraction it offers is probably not necessary if you can just wedge it into a library.Many of us on here have hacked together little pseudo-kernels.
Glorified Hello World bootloaders really.
If you had a TCP/IP stack, using an existing one like KAME or uIP, or a new implementation (I don't care which) and a filesystem that is more like a simple memory mapped key-value pair database (using critbit, hash table, b+tree, whatever).
it seems to me that would be enough to get something like WebKit going.What value would a custom kernel/OS have over a specialized Linux?
Well I think you could focus on implementing abstractions most suitable for a browser instead of trying to fit a filesystem or sqlite library to your design.
Mostly I suspect you could optimize the boot of a very primitive system pretty easily.
And you could do things where isolation of the browser in memory can be done in a way much finer grain than the Unix scheme of dividing everything into a user process or kernel mode thread.Perhaps the browser would be more like a root user, but individual tabs would have permissions controlled by a kernel or hypervisor that would be in isolation of one another.
One page may not be able to hijack the rest of your browser or access cookies or passwords unless specifically authorized.
And it could be done in such a way that is still relatively fast and low overhead, but more secure than current schemes.Imagine if plug-ins like flash and video codecs had to run through a socket or some fast IPC messaging scheme.
where you could just close it to force the process on the end to shut down.Why don't I implement it you ask?
Well assuming I have the skills necessary to do a good job, and the ambition to complete such a task.
I'm too old school to accept the idea that a system where the only application is a browser is useful to me personally.
Maybe when kernel development becomes browser based?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265544</id>
	<title>Re:Why not just use a smart phone at that point?</title>
	<author>Logic Worshipper</author>
	<datestamp>1259507880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Netbooks are cheap small computers.  Why pay for computing power you don't need, when 300$ netbook will work better than your old piece of junk  desktop?  If you only want to pay for what you're going to use, and you aren't doing anything resource intensive, netbooks are very cost efficient.</p><p>Netbooks would even make great command line servers, with a built in UPS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Netbooks are cheap small computers .
Why pay for computing power you do n't need , when 300 $ netbook will work better than your old piece of junk desktop ?
If you only want to pay for what you 're going to use , and you are n't doing anything resource intensive , netbooks are very cost efficient.Netbooks would even make great command line servers , with a built in UPS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Netbooks are cheap small computers.
Why pay for computing power you don't need, when 300$ netbook will work better than your old piece of junk  desktop?
If you only want to pay for what you're going to use, and you aren't doing anything resource intensive, netbooks are very cost efficient.Netbooks would even make great command line servers, with a built in UPS.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265206</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265220</id>
	<title>Trusted Computing seems significant in Chrome</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259503320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>There's quite a few places where the <a href="http://blogoftrust.com/google-chromium-os-versus-the-tpm/445" title="blogoftrust.com">Trusted Platform Module and Chromium intersect</a> [blogoftrust.com], which looks like being an interesting approach to certain problems.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's quite a few places where the Trusted Platform Module and Chromium intersect [ blogoftrust.com ] , which looks like being an interesting approach to certain problems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's quite a few places where the Trusted Platform Module and Chromium intersect [blogoftrust.com], which looks like being an interesting approach to certain problems.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30270670</id>
	<title>Oblig eeebuntu plug</title>
	<author>rwa2</author>
	<datestamp>1259601120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just upgraded my Eee901 to the current <a href="eeebuntu.org" title="slashdot.org">eeebuntu</a> [slashdot.org] standard this weekend and was pretty impressed.  They have compositing working on the desktop and it's pretty slick.</p><p>Add the <a href="http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-chromium-google-chrome-in-ubuntu-using-deb-package.html" title="ubuntugeek.com">Chromium</a> [ubuntugeek.com] nightly repository to your<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/etc/apt/sources.list and you have Chrome running as well.  With the virtual desktop, it's pretty easy to run it in full screen on one display and slide back and forth to the other desktop apps as well.</p><p>I'll have to go home later and time the boot / suspend / resume, though.</p><p>I only wish Google Maps Mobile ran on it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just upgraded my Eee901 to the current eeebuntu [ slashdot.org ] standard this weekend and was pretty impressed .
They have compositing working on the desktop and it 's pretty slick.Add the Chromium [ ubuntugeek.com ] nightly repository to your /etc/apt/sources.list and you have Chrome running as well .
With the virtual desktop , it 's pretty easy to run it in full screen on one display and slide back and forth to the other desktop apps as well.I 'll have to go home later and time the boot / suspend / resume , though.I only wish Google Maps Mobile ran on it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just upgraded my Eee901 to the current eeebuntu [slashdot.org] standard this weekend and was pretty impressed.
They have compositing working on the desktop and it's pretty slick.Add the Chromium [ubuntugeek.com] nightly repository to your /etc/apt/sources.list and you have Chrome running as well.
With the virtual desktop, it's pretty easy to run it in full screen on one display and slide back and forth to the other desktop apps as well.I'll have to go home later and time the boot / suspend / resume, though.I only wish Google Maps Mobile ran on it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30267000</id>
	<title>Re:Useful</title>
	<author>dontmakemethink</author>
	<datestamp>1259519580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It could also be very useful for recycling otherwise obsolete computers.  If it gets computers in front of someone that couldn't otherwise afford one, great!  If it gets a school in an impoverished area a computer room instead of just one box, even better!  Talk about great promotions for Google...</p><p>I'm betting Microsoft will respond with something, can't have kids having their first computing experiences on a unix-based OS... they might grow up to be linux-heads!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It could also be very useful for recycling otherwise obsolete computers .
If it gets computers in front of someone that could n't otherwise afford one , great !
If it gets a school in an impoverished area a computer room instead of just one box , even better !
Talk about great promotions for Google...I 'm betting Microsoft will respond with something , ca n't have kids having their first computing experiences on a unix-based OS... they might grow up to be linux-heads !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It could also be very useful for recycling otherwise obsolete computers.
If it gets computers in front of someone that couldn't otherwise afford one, great!
If it gets a school in an impoverished area a computer room instead of just one box, even better!
Talk about great promotions for Google...I'm betting Microsoft will respond with something, can't have kids having their first computing experiences on a unix-based OS... they might grow up to be linux-heads!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30264976</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30264940</id>
	<title>Re:False!</title>
	<author>Tablizer</author>
	<datestamp>1259500080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There ya go again ruining a good story by RTFA.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There ya go again ruining a good story by RTFA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There ya go again ruining a good story by RTFA.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265940</id>
	<title>Re:False!</title>
	<author>dickens</author>
	<datestamp>1259510580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With an SSD?  30 seconds is not impressive at all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With an SSD ?
30 seconds is not impressive at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With an SSD?
30 seconds is not impressive at all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265978</id>
	<title>Re:False!Christmas sale, free shipping discounts</title>
	<author>coolforsale134</author>
	<datestamp>1259510820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.coolforsale.com/" title="coolforsale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coolforsale.com/</a> [coolforsale.com] Dear ladies and gentlemen Hello, In order to meet Christmas, Site launched Christmas spree, welcome new and old customers come to participate in the there are unexpected surprises, look forward to your arrival. Only this site have this treatmentOur goal is "Best quality, Best reputation , Best services". Your satisfaction is our main pursue. You can find the best products from us, meeting your different needs. Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products . Pass by but don't miss it.Select your favorite clothing! Welcome to come next time ! Thank you! <a href="http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76" title="coolforsale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76</a> [coolforsale.com]   (Tracksuit w) ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket, Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33 Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35 Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&amp;g) $35 Tshirts (Polo<nobr> <wbr></nobr>,ed hardy,lacoste) $16 free shipping Thanks!!! Advance wish you a merry Christmas.</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.coolforsale.com/ [ coolforsale.com ] Dear ladies and gentlemen Hello , In order to meet Christmas , Site launched Christmas spree , welcome new and old customers come to participate in the there are unexpected surprises , look forward to your arrival .
Only this site have this treatmentOur goal is " Best quality , Best reputation , Best services " .
Your satisfaction is our main pursue .
You can find the best products from us , meeting your different needs .
Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products .
Pass by but do n't miss it.Select your favorite clothing !
Welcome to come next time !
Thank you !
http : //www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp ? id = s76 [ coolforsale.com ] ( Tracksuit w ) ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket , Air jordan ( 1-24 ) shoes $ 33 Nike shox ( R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3 ) $ 35 Handbags ( Coach lv fendi d&amp;g ) $ 35 Tshirts ( Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste ) $ 16 free shipping Thanks ! ! !
Advance wish you a merry Christmas .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.coolforsale.com/ [coolforsale.com] Dear ladies and gentlemen Hello, In order to meet Christmas, Site launched Christmas spree, welcome new and old customers come to participate in the there are unexpected surprises, look forward to your arrival.
Only this site have this treatmentOur goal is "Best quality, Best reputation , Best services".
Your satisfaction is our main pursue.
You can find the best products from us, meeting your different needs.
Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products .
Pass by but don't miss it.Select your favorite clothing!
Welcome to come next time !
Thank you!
http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76 [coolforsale.com]   (Tracksuit w) ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket, Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33 Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35 Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&amp;g) $35 Tshirts (Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste) $16 free shipping Thanks!!!
Advance wish you a merry Christmas.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30264850</id>
	<title>False!</title>
	<author>sys.stdout.write</author>
	<datestamp>1259499360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you read the linked ChromeShell page, it says it goes from <i>standby</i> to the Chrome browser in 3 seconds.<br> <br>It actually takes 30 seconds to boot, which isn't much better than Windows.  Actually, is that even better?</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you read the linked ChromeShell page , it says it goes from standby to the Chrome browser in 3 seconds .
It actually takes 30 seconds to boot , which is n't much better than Windows .
Actually , is that even better ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you read the linked ChromeShell page, it says it goes from standby to the Chrome browser in 3 seconds.
It actually takes 30 seconds to boot, which isn't much better than Windows.
Actually, is that even better?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30268232</id>
	<title>Re:False!</title>
	<author>MrMr</author>
	<datestamp>1259577360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Pfff, I installed an image of my desktop als eprom splash image. Now my laptop doesn't even need to boot an OS to get a picture of my desktop.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Pfff , I installed an image of my desktop als eprom splash image .
Now my laptop does n't even need to boot an OS to get a picture of my desktop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pfff, I installed an image of my desktop als eprom splash image.
Now my laptop doesn't even need to boot an OS to get a picture of my desktop.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265304</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_29_2212254.30265048</id>
	<title>Re:Useful</title>
	<author>mirshafie</author>
	<datestamp>1259501340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think Microsoft's idea was to launch their office suite for free on the web, so when you can edit Word and Excel documents in your browser, that is really all most people need. The question is which web OS will prevail.

(And for whatever tv&#229; &#246;re is worth, I think Microsoft has a huge advantage in providing decent backward compatibility with the largest library of software on this planet, which could be a deal breaker if they can pull it through. I wonder what the ReactOS guys are doing.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think Microsoft 's idea was to launch their office suite for free on the web , so when you can edit Word and Excel documents in your browser , that is really all most people need .
The question is which web OS will prevail .
( And for whatever tv     re is worth , I think Microsoft has a huge advantage in providing decent backward compatibility with the largest library of software on this planet , which could be a deal breaker if they can pull it through .
I wonder what the ReactOS guys are doing .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think Microsoft's idea was to launch their office suite for free on the web, so when you can edit Word and Excel documents in your browser, that is really all most people need.
The question is which web OS will prevail.
(And for whatever två öre is worth, I think Microsoft has a huge advantage in providing decent backward compatibility with the largest library of software on this planet, which could be a deal breaker if they can pull it through.
I wonder what the ReactOS guys are doing.
)</sentencetext>
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