<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_28_013255</id>
	<title>Apple Forced To Clean Up Its Fine Print</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1259428140000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Barence writes <i>"Apple has been <a href="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/353680/office-of-fair-trading-drags-apples-ts-cs-into-line">forced to tidy up its online terms and conditions</a>, at the behest of the UK's Office of Fair Trading. The company has redrafted its Ts &amp; Cs so that it now accepts liability for faulty or misdescribed goods sold from its website or the iTunes store. Apple must also ensure that its conditions are 'drafted in plain or intelligible language' and that they 'do not potentially allow changes to be made to products and prices after an agreement is made.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Barence writes " Apple has been forced to tidy up its online terms and conditions , at the behest of the UK 's Office of Fair Trading .
The company has redrafted its Ts &amp; Cs so that it now accepts liability for faulty or misdescribed goods sold from its website or the iTunes store .
Apple must also ensure that its conditions are 'drafted in plain or intelligible language ' and that they 'do not potentially allow changes to be made to products and prices after an agreement is made .
' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Barence writes "Apple has been forced to tidy up its online terms and conditions, at the behest of the UK's Office of Fair Trading.
The company has redrafted its Ts &amp; Cs so that it now accepts liability for faulty or misdescribed goods sold from its website or the iTunes store.
Apple must also ensure that its conditions are 'drafted in plain or intelligible language' and that they 'do not potentially allow changes to be made to products and prices after an agreement is made.
'"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253604</id>
	<title>In other news...</title>
	<author>itsdapead</author>
	<datestamp>1259408880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>About half of 369 websites selling electronic goods <a href="http://www.eubusiness.com/topics/consumer/electronic-goods.01" title="eubusiness.com">checked in an EU crackdown</a> [eubusiness.com] were found to have exactly these sorts of problems.
</p><p>Of course, 99\% of those websites weren't run by Apple, so they don't get singled out in the press. Fair do's I guess - 99\% of companies don't get every product launch reported by the BBC, either.
</p><p>The EU "distance selling" regulations (which include the UK) are fairly tight and comparatively recent.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>About half of 369 websites selling electronic goods checked in an EU crackdown [ eubusiness.com ] were found to have exactly these sorts of problems .
Of course , 99 \ % of those websites were n't run by Apple , so they do n't get singled out in the press .
Fair do 's I guess - 99 \ % of companies do n't get every product launch reported by the BBC , either .
The EU " distance selling " regulations ( which include the UK ) are fairly tight and comparatively recent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>About half of 369 websites selling electronic goods checked in an EU crackdown [eubusiness.com] were found to have exactly these sorts of problems.
Of course, 99\% of those websites weren't run by Apple, so they don't get singled out in the press.
Fair do's I guess - 99\% of companies don't get every product launch reported by the BBC, either.
The EU "distance selling" regulations (which include the UK) are fairly tight and comparatively recent.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252990</id>
	<title>Re:oh, that</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259438760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Different thing, the clause is wider and it is telling you not to use the software for very mission critical applications:</p><p>* This software is not designed or intended for use in on-line control of<br>
&nbsp; * aircraft, air traffic, aircraft navigation or aircraft communications; or in<br>
&nbsp; * the design, construction, operation or maintenance of any nuclear<br>
&nbsp; * facilit. Licensee represents and warrants that it will not use or<br>
&nbsp; * redistribute the Software for such purposes.</p><p><a href="http://java.sun.com/applets/jdk/1.4/demo/applets/Clock/Clock.java" title="sun.com">http://java.sun.com/applets/jdk/1.4/demo/applets/Clock/Clock.java</a> [sun.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Different thing , the clause is wider and it is telling you not to use the software for very mission critical applications : * This software is not designed or intended for use in on-line control of   * aircraft , air traffic , aircraft navigation or aircraft communications ; or in   * the design , construction , operation or maintenance of any nuclear   * facilit .
Licensee represents and warrants that it will not use or   * redistribute the Software for such purposes.http : //java.sun.com/applets/jdk/1.4/demo/applets/Clock/Clock.java [ sun.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Different thing, the clause is wider and it is telling you not to use the software for very mission critical applications:* This software is not designed or intended for use in on-line control of
  * aircraft, air traffic, aircraft navigation or aircraft communications; or in
  * the design, construction, operation or maintenance of any nuclear
  * facilit.
Licensee represents and warrants that it will not use or
  * redistribute the Software for such purposes.http://java.sun.com/applets/jdk/1.4/demo/applets/Clock/Clock.java [sun.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252900</id>
	<title>Re:oh, that</title>
	<author>Urza9814</author>
	<datestamp>1259350620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well at least with the JVM it's rather possible that it could be used in such a way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well at least with the JVM it 's rather possible that it could be used in such a way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well at least with the JVM it's rather possible that it could be used in such a way.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252816</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30254202</id>
	<title>Re:Misdescribed Goods</title>
	<author>dgatwood</author>
	<datestamp>1259419860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>iTunes lists rap stars as recording artists . Would that fall under the "faulty or misdescribed goods" part?</p></div></blockquote><p>iTunes also lists rap in their <b>music</b> section.  Would that fall under the "faulty or misdescribed goods" part?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>iTunes lists rap stars as recording artists .
Would that fall under the " faulty or misdescribed goods " part ? iTunes also lists rap in their music section .
Would that fall under the " faulty or misdescribed goods " part ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>iTunes lists rap stars as recording artists .
Would that fall under the "faulty or misdescribed goods" part?iTunes also lists rap in their music section.
Would that fall under the "faulty or misdescribed goods" part?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253020</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30255572</id>
	<title>Re:oh, that</title>
	<author>fyrewulff</author>
	<datestamp>1259434740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I tell you what, as much as I like Java as a programming language, I'd fill my underwear in record time if I ever discovered it was used in any nuclear facility.</p></div><p>Well, thanks to JIT, your waste can be converted into usable fuel for the plant itself, no matter how fast you fill your underwear buffer.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I tell you what , as much as I like Java as a programming language , I 'd fill my underwear in record time if I ever discovered it was used in any nuclear facility.Well , thanks to JIT , your waste can be converted into usable fuel for the plant itself , no matter how fast you fill your underwear buffer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I tell you what, as much as I like Java as a programming language, I'd fill my underwear in record time if I ever discovered it was used in any nuclear facility.Well, thanks to JIT, your waste can be converted into usable fuel for the plant itself, no matter how fast you fill your underwear buffer.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253348</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252892</id>
	<title>How about replacing lost downloads?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259350380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I used to use iTunes but I had a an iMac die after two years, bad hard drive, and I lost most of the movies I had bought. I have a new iMac and I set up a mirror drive but I no longer use iTunes. Also when I synced up my iPod Touch to the new machine it deleted all my personal photos off the Touch. The security is so draconian they even delete your personal content. It's a nice idea but the security and lack of culpability on Apple's part makes it unusable. I got the Touch mostly for movies and that was what I lost when the computer died. I don't feel like re-buying my movies after less than a year so as far as I'm concerned the Touch is bricked. It's sad because they are a great little movie player but the draconian security makes them utterly worthless. What they want you to do is buy "Mobile Me" which wasn't even released when my machine died. The real problem with Apple hardware/software is they expect you to do everything "their" way. If you follow their exact proceedure and use their back up systems the way they want you to use them it kind of works but any variation and you're screwed. I describe Apple products like a Club Med vacation, very regimented to the point of no longer being fun to use. With apple products you have one way to do everything their way where as traditionally you have multiple ways to organize yourself with Windows products. Sadly that's going away with Windows as well. Right after I got my first Vista machine I had to call a software vendor because the "Pref" files were missing. It turns out the folder containing them is now hidden by default. With Vista all the useful stuff is disabled by default and all the useless stuff is turned off. Even photo thumbnails is turned off by default. If they really want to make Apple play fair force them to honor sales so lost content can be recovered without forcing people to buy "Mobile Me" or a mirror drive just to cover your ass if your Mac dies, which it will. They work fine right up until they start to fall apart. It started with the Super Drive going out then I kept finding new dead pixels nearly every day then suddenly the machine was dead and any iTunes content not on the Touch was gone. Also can you stop deleting my personal content! I liked my old Palm Zaire where I could drag in most any content from movies to music and photos and it never once deleted my personal files. If you want to fight piracy don't piss off the customers that want to buy content! That would be the most important step. Also I should be able to rip any DVD to my iPod Touch. Hell I'll pay the $1 download fee just to have movies from my collection on the Touch. I like the copy of "Up" just bought. For $30 I have a DVD version, a Blu-Ray and I can load it on my Touch. That's the way to sell a movie! For $10 more I get every version and I'm happy. Paying $20 for each copy they can bite me!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I used to use iTunes but I had a an iMac die after two years , bad hard drive , and I lost most of the movies I had bought .
I have a new iMac and I set up a mirror drive but I no longer use iTunes .
Also when I synced up my iPod Touch to the new machine it deleted all my personal photos off the Touch .
The security is so draconian they even delete your personal content .
It 's a nice idea but the security and lack of culpability on Apple 's part makes it unusable .
I got the Touch mostly for movies and that was what I lost when the computer died .
I do n't feel like re-buying my movies after less than a year so as far as I 'm concerned the Touch is bricked .
It 's sad because they are a great little movie player but the draconian security makes them utterly worthless .
What they want you to do is buy " Mobile Me " which was n't even released when my machine died .
The real problem with Apple hardware/software is they expect you to do everything " their " way .
If you follow their exact proceedure and use their back up systems the way they want you to use them it kind of works but any variation and you 're screwed .
I describe Apple products like a Club Med vacation , very regimented to the point of no longer being fun to use .
With apple products you have one way to do everything their way where as traditionally you have multiple ways to organize yourself with Windows products .
Sadly that 's going away with Windows as well .
Right after I got my first Vista machine I had to call a software vendor because the " Pref " files were missing .
It turns out the folder containing them is now hidden by default .
With Vista all the useful stuff is disabled by default and all the useless stuff is turned off .
Even photo thumbnails is turned off by default .
If they really want to make Apple play fair force them to honor sales so lost content can be recovered without forcing people to buy " Mobile Me " or a mirror drive just to cover your ass if your Mac dies , which it will .
They work fine right up until they start to fall apart .
It started with the Super Drive going out then I kept finding new dead pixels nearly every day then suddenly the machine was dead and any iTunes content not on the Touch was gone .
Also can you stop deleting my personal content !
I liked my old Palm Zaire where I could drag in most any content from movies to music and photos and it never once deleted my personal files .
If you want to fight piracy do n't piss off the customers that want to buy content !
That would be the most important step .
Also I should be able to rip any DVD to my iPod Touch .
Hell I 'll pay the $ 1 download fee just to have movies from my collection on the Touch .
I like the copy of " Up " just bought .
For $ 30 I have a DVD version , a Blu-Ray and I can load it on my Touch .
That 's the way to sell a movie !
For $ 10 more I get every version and I 'm happy .
Paying $ 20 for each copy they can bite me !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used to use iTunes but I had a an iMac die after two years, bad hard drive, and I lost most of the movies I had bought.
I have a new iMac and I set up a mirror drive but I no longer use iTunes.
Also when I synced up my iPod Touch to the new machine it deleted all my personal photos off the Touch.
The security is so draconian they even delete your personal content.
It's a nice idea but the security and lack of culpability on Apple's part makes it unusable.
I got the Touch mostly for movies and that was what I lost when the computer died.
I don't feel like re-buying my movies after less than a year so as far as I'm concerned the Touch is bricked.
It's sad because they are a great little movie player but the draconian security makes them utterly worthless.
What they want you to do is buy "Mobile Me" which wasn't even released when my machine died.
The real problem with Apple hardware/software is they expect you to do everything "their" way.
If you follow their exact proceedure and use their back up systems the way they want you to use them it kind of works but any variation and you're screwed.
I describe Apple products like a Club Med vacation, very regimented to the point of no longer being fun to use.
With apple products you have one way to do everything their way where as traditionally you have multiple ways to organize yourself with Windows products.
Sadly that's going away with Windows as well.
Right after I got my first Vista machine I had to call a software vendor because the "Pref" files were missing.
It turns out the folder containing them is now hidden by default.
With Vista all the useful stuff is disabled by default and all the useless stuff is turned off.
Even photo thumbnails is turned off by default.
If they really want to make Apple play fair force them to honor sales so lost content can be recovered without forcing people to buy "Mobile Me" or a mirror drive just to cover your ass if your Mac dies, which it will.
They work fine right up until they start to fall apart.
It started with the Super Drive going out then I kept finding new dead pixels nearly every day then suddenly the machine was dead and any iTunes content not on the Touch was gone.
Also can you stop deleting my personal content!
I liked my old Palm Zaire where I could drag in most any content from movies to music and photos and it never once deleted my personal files.
If you want to fight piracy don't piss off the customers that want to buy content!
That would be the most important step.
Also I should be able to rip any DVD to my iPod Touch.
Hell I'll pay the $1 download fee just to have movies from my collection on the Touch.
I like the copy of "Up" just bought.
For $30 I have a DVD version, a Blu-Ray and I can load it on my Touch.
That's the way to sell a movie!
For $10 more I get every version and I'm happy.
Paying $20 for each copy they can bite me!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253658</id>
	<title>Re:Apple and the UK</title>
	<author>itsdapead</author>
	<datestamp>1259409900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Is it me or do Apple get in trouble in the UK a lot?</p></div><p>More a case of whenever Apple get in trouble it tends to be over-reported. Ads get pulled all the time. Also, its largely driven by how many "members of the public" complain.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Have they really not bothered to hire any UK lawyers?</p></div><p>The <a href="http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/" title="asa.org.uk">ASA</a> [asa.org.uk] is an independent industry regulator enforcing a "code of conduct" so the law doesn't necessarily come in to it.
</p><p>However, no, I don't think Apple really understands the way advertising works in the UK: a prestige brand like Apple is supposed to give us 40 seconds of entertainment with a "pack shot" at the end. If you make specific claims about the product, people will check (if a cosmetics firm says "8 out of 10 women in our survey said they felt younger looking" then they better have those stats). Knocking the competitor's product really isn't cricket and is fairly rare. I notice that although Apple initially made UK versions of the "I'm a Mac" ads (with a British comedy duo) that didn't last long.
</p><p>On the other hand, Apple also think that a British keyboard is an American keyboard with the # key replaced by a &pound; sign. Twits.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it me or do Apple get in trouble in the UK a lot ? More a case of whenever Apple get in trouble it tends to be over-reported .
Ads get pulled all the time .
Also , its largely driven by how many " members of the public " complain.Have they really not bothered to hire any UK lawyers ? The ASA [ asa.org.uk ] is an independent industry regulator enforcing a " code of conduct " so the law does n't necessarily come in to it .
However , no , I do n't think Apple really understands the way advertising works in the UK : a prestige brand like Apple is supposed to give us 40 seconds of entertainment with a " pack shot " at the end .
If you make specific claims about the product , people will check ( if a cosmetics firm says " 8 out of 10 women in our survey said they felt younger looking " then they better have those stats ) .
Knocking the competitor 's product really is n't cricket and is fairly rare .
I notice that although Apple initially made UK versions of the " I 'm a Mac " ads ( with a British comedy duo ) that did n't last long .
On the other hand , Apple also think that a British keyboard is an American keyboard with the # key replaced by a   sign .
Twits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it me or do Apple get in trouble in the UK a lot?More a case of whenever Apple get in trouble it tends to be over-reported.
Ads get pulled all the time.
Also, its largely driven by how many "members of the public" complain.Have they really not bothered to hire any UK lawyers?The ASA [asa.org.uk] is an independent industry regulator enforcing a "code of conduct" so the law doesn't necessarily come in to it.
However, no, I don't think Apple really understands the way advertising works in the UK: a prestige brand like Apple is supposed to give us 40 seconds of entertainment with a "pack shot" at the end.
If you make specific claims about the product, people will check (if a cosmetics firm says "8 out of 10 women in our survey said they felt younger looking" then they better have those stats).
Knocking the competitor's product really isn't cricket and is fairly rare.
I notice that although Apple initially made UK versions of the "I'm a Mac" ads (with a British comedy duo) that didn't last long.
On the other hand, Apple also think that a British keyboard is an American keyboard with the # key replaced by a £ sign.
Twits.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30254556</id>
	<title>Re:Windows XP Professional license agreement</title>
	<author>DriedClexler</author>
	<datestamp>1259424120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, the asshole truckers that carry small rocks without covering up the load think they're accomplishing something by having a notice:</p><p>"Stay back 200 ft -- Not responsible for damaged windshields"</p><p>Yet they know damn well that they'll be at fault for such damage.  Go fig.</p><p>I'm guessing it's just an attempt to deceive people into thinking they don't have rights that they really do<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... which should probably be illegal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , the asshole truckers that carry small rocks without covering up the load think they 're accomplishing something by having a notice : " Stay back 200 ft -- Not responsible for damaged windshields " Yet they know damn well that they 'll be at fault for such damage .
Go fig.I 'm guessing it 's just an attempt to deceive people into thinking they do n't have rights that they really do ... which should probably be illegal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, the asshole truckers that carry small rocks without covering up the load think they're accomplishing something by having a notice:"Stay back 200 ft -- Not responsible for damaged windshields"Yet they know damn well that they'll be at fault for such damage.
Go fig.I'm guessing it's just an attempt to deceive people into thinking they don't have rights that they really do ... which should probably be illegal.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30256702</id>
	<title>Re:Windows XP Professional license agreement</title>
	<author>drsmithy</author>
	<datestamp>1259402280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>That sentence is not present anywhere in the Windows EULA.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That sentence is not present anywhere in the Windows EULA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That sentence is not present anywhere in the Windows EULA.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253330</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30254106</id>
	<title>Re:Misdescribed Goods</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1259418300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know exactly what you mean. It told me you were funny.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know exactly what you mean .
It told me you were funny .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know exactly what you mean.
It told me you were funny.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253020</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253360</id>
	<title>Re:But do they...</title>
	<author>risinganger</author>
	<datestamp>1259403480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Allow you to be a smoker and still get your iCrap serviced under warranty?</p></div><p>Here's Apple, trying to save everybody from lung cancer and all I see are complaints!

</p><p>If you won't think of the children then Apple have to!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Allow you to be a smoker and still get your iCrap serviced under warranty ? Here 's Apple , trying to save everybody from lung cancer and all I see are complaints !
If you wo n't think of the children then Apple have to !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Allow you to be a smoker and still get your iCrap serviced under warranty?Here's Apple, trying to save everybody from lung cancer and all I see are complaints!
If you won't think of the children then Apple have to!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252664</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252622</id>
	<title>Apple never misdescribes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259345820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>it is just that the usee misunderstands</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>it is just that the usee misunderstands</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it is just that the usee misunderstands</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253330</id>
	<title>Windows XP Professional license agreement</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259402820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"In no event shall Microsoft be liable for any damages whatsoever, even in the event of fault (including negligence)."<br>
-- Windows XP Professional license agreement</htmltext>
<tokenext>" In no event shall Microsoft be liable for any damages whatsoever , even in the event of fault ( including negligence ) .
" -- Windows XP Professional license agreement</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"In no event shall Microsoft be liable for any damages whatsoever, even in the event of fault (including negligence).
"
-- Windows XP Professional license agreement</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252612</id>
	<title>Good news...</title>
	<author>click2005</author>
	<datestamp>1259345700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><b>do not potentially allow changes to be made to products and prices after an agreement is made.</b></p><p>As I've said numerous times, this is why EULAs are unenforcable in the UK.  It does not stop Apple from adding a feature or function in the future and requiring the user to agree to new T&amp;Cs. It also means they cant <b>force</b> an upgrade with new T&amp;Cs without giving the buyer the option of a refund.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>do not potentially allow changes to be made to products and prices after an agreement is made.As I 've said numerous times , this is why EULAs are unenforcable in the UK .
It does not stop Apple from adding a feature or function in the future and requiring the user to agree to new T&amp;Cs .
It also means they cant force an upgrade with new T&amp;Cs without giving the buyer the option of a refund .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>do not potentially allow changes to be made to products and prices after an agreement is made.As I've said numerous times, this is why EULAs are unenforcable in the UK.
It does not stop Apple from adding a feature or function in the future and requiring the user to agree to new T&amp;Cs.
It also means they cant force an upgrade with new T&amp;Cs without giving the buyer the option of a refund.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30254002</id>
	<title>Re:Does such a fabled place truly exist?</title>
	<author>PopeRatzo</author>
	<datestamp>1259416740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Surely this is a land without lawyers. Where is this 'United Kingdom' and how soon may we journey to its fair shores?</p></div></blockquote><p>It's not so much that it's without lawyers.  It's just been around long enough to have figured out that it's not good for a society to put corporations in charge of absolutely everything.</p><p>Unfortunately, it's younger cousin across the atlantic has not made this discovery yet, but I have high hopes.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Surely this is a land without lawyers .
Where is this 'United Kingdom ' and how soon may we journey to its fair shores ? It 's not so much that it 's without lawyers .
It 's just been around long enough to have figured out that it 's not good for a society to put corporations in charge of absolutely everything.Unfortunately , it 's younger cousin across the atlantic has not made this discovery yet , but I have high hopes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Surely this is a land without lawyers.
Where is this 'United Kingdom' and how soon may we journey to its fair shores?It's not so much that it's without lawyers.
It's just been around long enough to have figured out that it's not good for a society to put corporations in charge of absolutely everything.Unfortunately, it's younger cousin across the atlantic has not made this discovery yet, but I have high hopes.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253112</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253918</id>
	<title>Re:In other news...</title>
	<author>Adlopa</author>
	<datestamp>1259415480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Replying to remove erroneously applied mode point (not a 'funny' comment at all). My bad.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Replying to remove erroneously applied mode point ( not a 'funny ' comment at all ) .
My bad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Replying to remove erroneously applied mode point (not a 'funny' comment at all).
My bad.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253604</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252808</id>
	<title>Re:But do they...</title>
	<author>Duradin</author>
	<datestamp>1259349120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One blog. Two cases. Everything links back to the one blog. I think we've just promoted another molehill up to mountain status.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One blog .
Two cases .
Everything links back to the one blog .
I think we 've just promoted another molehill up to mountain status .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One blog.
Two cases.
Everything links back to the one blog.
I think we've just promoted another molehill up to mountain status.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252664</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30254884</id>
	<title>Re:oh, that</title>
	<author>Dun Malg</author>
	<datestamp>1259427780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Eh. That's not special to Apple. It's standard software industry boilerplate. Remember the Win XP install agreement that says  you can't use XP to control nuclear reactors? SAme shit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Eh .
That 's not special to Apple .
It 's standard software industry boilerplate .
Remember the Win XP install agreement that says you ca n't use XP to control nuclear reactors ?
SAme shit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Eh.
That's not special to Apple.
It's standard software industry boilerplate.
Remember the Win XP install agreement that says  you can't use XP to control nuclear reactors?
SAme shit.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252616</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253998</id>
	<title>Re:Good news.Christmas sale,free shipping discount</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259416740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.coolforsale.com/" title="coolforsale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coolforsale.com/</a> [coolforsale.com]   Dear ladies and gentlemen Hello, In order to meet Christmas, Site launched Christmas spree, welcome new and old customers come to participate in the there are unexpected surprises, look forward to your arrival. Only this site have this treatmentOur goal is "Best quality, Best reputation , Best services". Your satisfaction is our main pursue. You can find the best products from us, meeting your different needs. Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products . Pass by but don't miss it.Select your favorite clothing! Welcome to come next time ! Thank you! <a href="http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76" title="coolforsale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76</a> [coolforsale.com]   (Tracksuit w) ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket, Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33 Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35 Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&amp;g) $35 Tshirts (Polo<nobr> <wbr></nobr>,ed hardy,lacoste) $16 free shipping Thanks!!! Advance wish you a merry Christmas</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.coolforsale.com/ [ coolforsale.com ] Dear ladies and gentlemen Hello , In order to meet Christmas , Site launched Christmas spree , welcome new and old customers come to participate in the there are unexpected surprises , look forward to your arrival .
Only this site have this treatmentOur goal is " Best quality , Best reputation , Best services " .
Your satisfaction is our main pursue .
You can find the best products from us , meeting your different needs .
Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products .
Pass by but do n't miss it.Select your favorite clothing !
Welcome to come next time !
Thank you !
http : //www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp ? id = s76 [ coolforsale.com ] ( Tracksuit w ) ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket , Air jordan ( 1-24 ) shoes $ 33 Nike shox ( R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3 ) $ 35 Handbags ( Coach lv fendi d&amp;g ) $ 35 Tshirts ( Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste ) $ 16 free shipping Thanks ! ! !
Advance wish you a merry Christmas</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.coolforsale.com/ [coolforsale.com]   Dear ladies and gentlemen Hello, In order to meet Christmas, Site launched Christmas spree, welcome new and old customers come to participate in the there are unexpected surprises, look forward to your arrival.
Only this site have this treatmentOur goal is "Best quality, Best reputation , Best services".
Your satisfaction is our main pursue.
You can find the best products from us, meeting your different needs.
Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products .
Pass by but don't miss it.Select your favorite clothing!
Welcome to come next time !
Thank you!
http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76 [coolforsale.com]   (Tracksuit w) ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket, Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33 Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35 Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&amp;g) $35 Tshirts (Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste) $16 free shipping Thanks!!!
Advance wish you a merry Christmas</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252612</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253922</id>
	<title>Re:Misdescribed Goods</title>
	<author>troll8901</author>
	<datestamp>1259415540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>(C) Rap 1990</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>( C ) Rap 1990</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(C) Rap 1990</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253020</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253222</id>
	<title>Re:oh, that</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259400240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So if you play music while you conceiving a kid, and your son becomes a soldier (chemical and biological weapon), do you get into trouble ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So if you play music while you conceiving a kid , and your son becomes a soldier ( chemical and biological weapon ) , do you get into trouble ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So if you play music while you conceiving a kid, and your son becomes a soldier (chemical and biological weapon), do you get into trouble ?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252616</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253544</id>
	<title>Re:But do they...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259407860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Allow you to be a smoker and still get your iCrap serviced under warranty?</p></div><p>Probably not if the <i>cause of the fault</i> is that it is gunked up with foul-smelling tar. Go read the fine print in every warranty under the sun about not covering neglect or misuse.

</p><p>Has anybody asked Dell, HP, Sony etc. what they would do in these circumstances? Thought not.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Allow you to be a smoker and still get your iCrap serviced under warranty ? Probably not if the cause of the fault is that it is gunked up with foul-smelling tar .
Go read the fine print in every warranty under the sun about not covering neglect or misuse .
Has anybody asked Dell , HP , Sony etc .
what they would do in these circumstances ?
Thought not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Allow you to be a smoker and still get your iCrap serviced under warranty?Probably not if the cause of the fault is that it is gunked up with foul-smelling tar.
Go read the fine print in every warranty under the sun about not covering neglect or misuse.
Has anybody asked Dell, HP, Sony etc.
what they would do in these circumstances?
Thought not.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252664</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252910</id>
	<title>Re:oh, that</title>
	<author>FooAtWFU</author>
	<datestamp>1259350800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The one I always recall seeing was for some Sun sample Java code, for the "clock" applet. <i>This code not to be used in blah blah blah or the design, construction, or maintenance of any nuclear facility.</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>The one I always recall seeing was for some Sun sample Java code , for the " clock " applet .
This code not to be used in blah blah blah or the design , construction , or maintenance of any nuclear facility .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The one I always recall seeing was for some Sun sample Java code, for the "clock" applet.
This code not to be used in blah blah blah or the design, construction, or maintenance of any nuclear facility.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252816</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252664</id>
	<title>But do they...</title>
	<author>NecroPuppy</author>
	<datestamp>1259346300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Allow you to be a smoker and still get your iCrap serviced under warranty?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Allow you to be a smoker and still get your iCrap serviced under warranty ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Allow you to be a smoker and still get your iCrap serviced under warranty?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253030</id>
	<title>Including fitness for a particular purpose</title>
	<author>dirkdodgers</author>
	<datestamp>1259439720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've always loved the absurdity of these phrases. Apple disclaims all implied warranties including the implied warranties that their products are what they claim to be and are suitable for the purpose they are advertised for.</p><p>In other words, as far as Apple is concerned, if you open your new Macbook Pro box and find a boat anchor instead of a laptop, tough luck.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've always loved the absurdity of these phrases .
Apple disclaims all implied warranties including the implied warranties that their products are what they claim to be and are suitable for the purpose they are advertised for.In other words , as far as Apple is concerned , if you open your new Macbook Pro box and find a boat anchor instead of a laptop , tough luck .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've always loved the absurdity of these phrases.
Apple disclaims all implied warranties including the implied warranties that their products are what they claim to be and are suitable for the purpose they are advertised for.In other words, as far as Apple is concerned, if you open your new Macbook Pro box and find a boat anchor instead of a laptop, tough luck.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30254826</id>
	<title>Re:Including fitness for a particular purpose</title>
	<author>daveime</author>
	<datestamp>1259427240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Finding a boat anchor would be a bonus. Boat anchors tend to be attached to boats, which have GPS that works.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Finding a boat anchor would be a bonus .
Boat anchors tend to be attached to boats , which have GPS that works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Finding a boat anchor would be a bonus.
Boat anchors tend to be attached to boats, which have GPS that works.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253030</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30255788</id>
	<title>Re:Good news...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259437020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>As I've said numerous times, this is why EULAs are...</p></div></blockquote><p>
This makes no sense as your reputation is not worth a grain of salt.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As I 've said numerous times , this is why EULAs are.. . This makes no sense as your reputation is not worth a grain of salt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As I've said numerous times, this is why EULAs are...
This makes no sense as your reputation is not worth a grain of salt.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252612</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253020</id>
	<title>Misdescribed Goods</title>
	<author>Donkey\_Hotey</author>
	<datestamp>1259439300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>iTunes lists rap stars as recording <b> <i>artists</i> </b>.  Would that fall under the "faulty or misdescribed goods" part?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>iTunes lists rap stars as recording artists .
Would that fall under the " faulty or misdescribed goods " part ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>iTunes lists rap stars as recording  artists .
Would that fall under the "faulty or misdescribed goods" part?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252628</id>
	<title>CrApple!!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259346000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>YeeeeaaAAAAAAH!!!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>YeeeeaaAAAAAAH ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>YeeeeaaAAAAAAH!!!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252824</id>
	<title>Fuck Corporations!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259349300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Fuck them!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fuck them !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fuck them!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253420</id>
	<title>Re:Apple and the UK</title>
	<author>mjwx</author>
	<datestamp>1259405220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Apple definitely won't be the only well known company in the UK to do things like these (Microsoft?)</p></div></blockquote><p>

Cant say about the UK but in AU we have similar laws, bank and telco ad's get pulled all the time. Often they come back with ridiculous amounts of fine print displayed in 3 seconds to comply with advertising standards.<br> <br>

With Apple, they deliberately misrepresent their goods so of course these kinds of things happen, MS don't release an ad that often and always get it checked (if not done by) a local ad agency who will ensure its compliance. Occasionally they do get ad's pulled though, the "get the Facts(R)*+" campaign for example.<br> <br>

* - Facts(R) is a registered trademark of Microsoft(TM) and may not represent any actual facts.<br>
+ - May contain traces of nut egg or seed.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple definitely wo n't be the only well known company in the UK to do things like these ( Microsoft ?
) Cant say about the UK but in AU we have similar laws , bank and telco ad 's get pulled all the time .
Often they come back with ridiculous amounts of fine print displayed in 3 seconds to comply with advertising standards .
With Apple , they deliberately misrepresent their goods so of course these kinds of things happen , MS do n't release an ad that often and always get it checked ( if not done by ) a local ad agency who will ensure its compliance .
Occasionally they do get ad 's pulled though , the " get the Facts ( R ) * + " campaign for example .
* - Facts ( R ) is a registered trademark of Microsoft ( TM ) and may not represent any actual facts .
+ - May contain traces of nut egg or seed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple definitely won't be the only well known company in the UK to do things like these (Microsoft?
)

Cant say about the UK but in AU we have similar laws, bank and telco ad's get pulled all the time.
Often they come back with ridiculous amounts of fine print displayed in 3 seconds to comply with advertising standards.
With Apple, they deliberately misrepresent their goods so of course these kinds of things happen, MS don't release an ad that often and always get it checked (if not done by) a local ad agency who will ensure its compliance.
Occasionally they do get ad's pulled though, the "get the Facts(R)*+" campaign for example.
* - Facts(R) is a registered trademark of Microsoft(TM) and may not represent any actual facts.
+ - May contain traces of nut egg or seed.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253166</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253510</id>
	<title>Re:Does such a fabled place truly exist?</title>
	<author>badzilla</author>
	<datestamp>1259407200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A Brit friend was visiting the USA and phoned the operator (could have been the internal operator at his large company) to ask which international dialling prefix he should use to call home. A short silence then... "United Kingdom? Is that an amusement park?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A Brit friend was visiting the USA and phoned the operator ( could have been the internal operator at his large company ) to ask which international dialling prefix he should use to call home .
A short silence then... " United Kingdom ?
Is that an amusement park ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A Brit friend was visiting the USA and phoned the operator (could have been the internal operator at his large company) to ask which international dialling prefix he should use to call home.
A short silence then... "United Kingdom?
Is that an amusement park?
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253112</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30256728</id>
	<title>Re:oh, that</title>
	<author>Anonymous Poodle</author>
	<datestamp>1259402580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Something tells me that bomb builders want hardware that <i>Just Works.</i></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Something tells me that bomb builders want hardware that Just Works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Something tells me that bomb builders want hardware that Just Works.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252616</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253286</id>
	<title>Re:oh, that</title>
	<author>mysidia</author>
	<datestamp>1259401860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
As if the people who manufacture biological weapon  delivery system contrary to US law will care about a EULA clause in  the JVM they run their software on.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As if the people who manufacture biological weapon delivery system contrary to US law will care about a EULA clause in the JVM they run their software on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
As if the people who manufacture biological weapon  delivery system contrary to US law will care about a EULA clause in  the JVM they run their software on.
</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252816</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30254680</id>
	<title>Re:Windows XP Professional license agreement</title>
	<author>Dysproxia</author>
	<datestamp>1259425560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I always thought that these notices are very odd. I mean, can I put up a sign that says "In no event shall Esben be responsible for any crime he might do" and expect it to have any effect?</p></div></blockquote><p>Of course not, since that claim would be false. Software maker responsibilities are a different matter. Would you hold the Apache Foundation liable for damages if someone hacks your web server due to security holes in their code? No, as they don't claim or promise responsibility any more than Microsoft or anyone else with half a mind do.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I always thought that these notices are very odd .
I mean , can I put up a sign that says " In no event shall Esben be responsible for any crime he might do " and expect it to have any effect ? Of course not , since that claim would be false .
Software maker responsibilities are a different matter .
Would you hold the Apache Foundation liable for damages if someone hacks your web server due to security holes in their code ?
No , as they do n't claim or promise responsibility any more than Microsoft or anyone else with half a mind do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I always thought that these notices are very odd.
I mean, can I put up a sign that says "In no event shall Esben be responsible for any crime he might do" and expect it to have any effect?Of course not, since that claim would be false.
Software maker responsibilities are a different matter.
Would you hold the Apache Foundation liable for damages if someone hacks your web server due to security holes in their code?
No, as they don't claim or promise responsibility any more than Microsoft or anyone else with half a mind do.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253452</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253112</id>
	<title>Does such a fabled place truly exist?</title>
	<author>Snufu</author>
	<datestamp>1259441040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>  must also ensure that its conditions are 'drafted in plain or intelligible language'</p></div><p>

Surely this is a land without lawyers. Where is this 'United Kingdom' and how soon may we journey to its fair shores?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>must also ensure that its conditions are 'drafted in plain or intelligible language ' Surely this is a land without lawyers .
Where is this 'United Kingdom ' and how soon may we journey to its fair shores ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  must also ensure that its conditions are 'drafted in plain or intelligible language'

Surely this is a land without lawyers.
Where is this 'United Kingdom' and how soon may we journey to its fair shores?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252922</id>
	<title>Re:But do they...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259350980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>only if you smoke dicks. otherwise they'd have no marketshare.</htmltext>
<tokenext>only if you smoke dicks .
otherwise they 'd have no marketshare .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>only if you smoke dicks.
otherwise they'd have no marketshare.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252664</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252774</id>
	<title>Re:oh, that</title>
	<author>RockoTDF</author>
	<datestamp>1259348160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Looks like I need to unsubscribe from that DIY ICBM podcast.  And the host was so witty and charming....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like I need to unsubscribe from that DIY ICBM podcast .
And the host was so witty and charming... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looks like I need to unsubscribe from that DIY ICBM podcast.
And the host was so witty and charming....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252616</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253452</id>
	<title>Re:Windows XP Professional license agreement</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259406060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"In no event shall Microsoft be liable for any damages whatsoever, even in the event of fault (including negligence)."</p></div><p>I always thought that these notices are very odd. I mean, can I put up a sign that says "In no event shall Esben be responsible for any crime he might do" and expect it to have <em>any</em> effect?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" In no event shall Microsoft be liable for any damages whatsoever , even in the event of fault ( including negligence ) .
" I always thought that these notices are very odd .
I mean , can I put up a sign that says " In no event shall Esben be responsible for any crime he might do " and expect it to have any effect ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"In no event shall Microsoft be liable for any damages whatsoever, even in the event of fault (including negligence).
"I always thought that these notices are very odd.
I mean, can I put up a sign that says "In no event shall Esben be responsible for any crime he might do" and expect it to have any effect?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253330</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30254142</id>
	<title>after an agreement is made?</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1259418900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So why is apple going to be held to a higher standard then any other company out there?</p><p>Changing products after the sale, and changing terms, is standard practice. Don't like the new terms, dissolve the contract and choose a more customer friendly vendor. If you want the new features that came out afterwards, upgrade. ( or conversely, if you don't like what was removed or added, don't upgrade. )</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So why is apple going to be held to a higher standard then any other company out there ? Changing products after the sale , and changing terms , is standard practice .
Do n't like the new terms , dissolve the contract and choose a more customer friendly vendor .
If you want the new features that came out afterwards , upgrade .
( or conversely , if you do n't like what was removed or added , do n't upgrade .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So why is apple going to be held to a higher standard then any other company out there?Changing products after the sale, and changing terms, is standard practice.
Don't like the new terms, dissolve the contract and choose a more customer friendly vendor.
If you want the new features that came out afterwards, upgrade.
( or conversely, if you don't like what was removed or added, don't upgrade.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30255122</id>
	<title>psystar should move to the uk and likely be able t</title>
	<author>Joe The Dragon</author>
	<datestamp>1259430060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>psystar should move to the uk and likely be able to do what they are doing for a lot more law on there side.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>psystar should move to the uk and likely be able to do what they are doing for a lot more law on there side .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>psystar should move to the uk and likely be able to do what they are doing for a lot more law on there side.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252612</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30254772</id>
	<title>Re:oh, that</title>
	<author>daveime</author>
	<datestamp>1259426460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, but how would you know that the "record time" was accurate ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , but how would you know that the " record time " was accurate ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, but how would you know that the "record time" was accurate ?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253348</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252800</id>
	<title>Laaaaa</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259348880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And that's why I am a PC.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And that 's why I am a PC .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And that's why I am a PC.
:)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253040</id>
	<title>Re:oh, that</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259439780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Looks like I need to unsubscribe from that DIY ICBM podcast.  And the host was so witty and charming....</p></div><p>Achmedinejad is on ham radio, too.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like I need to unsubscribe from that DIY ICBM podcast .
And the host was so witty and charming....Achmedinejad is on ham radio , too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looks like I need to unsubscribe from that DIY ICBM podcast.
And the host was so witty and charming....Achmedinejad is on ham radio, too.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252774</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30254204</id>
	<title>Re:oh, that</title>
	<author>jo42</author>
	<datestamp>1259419920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You'd fill the Grand Canyon in record time if you saw what was and is being used in nuclear facilities...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 'd fill the Grand Canyon in record time if you saw what was and is being used in nuclear facilities.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You'd fill the Grand Canyon in record time if you saw what was and is being used in nuclear facilities...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253348</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253166</id>
	<title>Apple and the UK</title>
	<author>DrScotsman</author>
	<datestamp>1259398920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is it me or do Apple get in trouble in the UK a lot?  I think there's about 4 Apple adverts that have been deemed false advertising by ASA, and now this?  Have they really not bothered to hire any UK lawyers?</p><p>Anyway this is a bit of a moot point.  Terms in a contract that contradict the Distance Selling Regulations or the Sale of Goods act are obviously null (especially so if Apple included the line "This does not affect your statutory rights" or similar), and The Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999 will almost certainly nullify any term like "Apple reserves the right to change these terms and conditions at any time."  I'm happy about this story but am confused as Apple definitely won't be the only well known company in the UK to do things like these (Microsoft?)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it me or do Apple get in trouble in the UK a lot ?
I think there 's about 4 Apple adverts that have been deemed false advertising by ASA , and now this ?
Have they really not bothered to hire any UK lawyers ? Anyway this is a bit of a moot point .
Terms in a contract that contradict the Distance Selling Regulations or the Sale of Goods act are obviously null ( especially so if Apple included the line " This does not affect your statutory rights " or similar ) , and The Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999 will almost certainly nullify any term like " Apple reserves the right to change these terms and conditions at any time .
" I 'm happy about this story but am confused as Apple definitely wo n't be the only well known company in the UK to do things like these ( Microsoft ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it me or do Apple get in trouble in the UK a lot?
I think there's about 4 Apple adverts that have been deemed false advertising by ASA, and now this?
Have they really not bothered to hire any UK lawyers?Anyway this is a bit of a moot point.
Terms in a contract that contradict the Distance Selling Regulations or the Sale of Goods act are obviously null (especially so if Apple included the line "This does not affect your statutory rights" or similar), and The Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999 will almost certainly nullify any term like "Apple reserves the right to change these terms and conditions at any time.
"  I'm happy about this story but am confused as Apple definitely won't be the only well known company in the UK to do things like these (Microsoft?
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253590</id>
	<title>You missed the keyword</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259408520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>drafted in plain <b>or</b> intelligible language'</p></div><p>Grok buy song. Song play music. Grok happy. Grek buy song. Song broken. Grek sad. Apple not care. Grek angry.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>drafted in plain or intelligible language'Grok buy song .
Song play music .
Grok happy .
Grek buy song .
Song broken .
Grek sad .
Apple not care .
Grek angry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>drafted in plain or intelligible language'Grok buy song.
Song play music.
Grok happy.
Grek buy song.
Song broken.
Grek sad.
Apple not care.
Grek angry.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253112</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253494</id>
	<title>Re:Apple and the UK</title>
	<author>rishistar</author>
	<datestamp>1259407080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They were complained about adverts for the iPhone - it was ironic that with such a great product they had to stoop to such misrepresentation.</p><p>Still, I'd rather have those lies back if they replaced the Windows 7 adverts they have here - I'm hoping for a version of Duck Hunt featuring all the annoying guys in the ads to hit the market in time for Christmas.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They were complained about adverts for the iPhone - it was ironic that with such a great product they had to stoop to such misrepresentation.Still , I 'd rather have those lies back if they replaced the Windows 7 adverts they have here - I 'm hoping for a version of Duck Hunt featuring all the annoying guys in the ads to hit the market in time for Christmas .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They were complained about adverts for the iPhone - it was ironic that with such a great product they had to stoop to such misrepresentation.Still, I'd rather have those lies back if they replaced the Windows 7 adverts they have here - I'm hoping for a version of Duck Hunt featuring all the annoying guys in the ads to hit the market in time for Christmas.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253166</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252616</id>
	<title>oh, that</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259345760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you mean, the iTunes clause:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>You also agree that you will not use these products for any purposes prohibited by United States law, including, without limitation, the development, design, manufacture or production of nuclear, missiles, or chemical or biological weapons.</p></div><p>??</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>you mean , the iTunes clause : You also agree that you will not use these products for any purposes prohibited by United States law , including , without limitation , the development , design , manufacture or production of nuclear , missiles , or chemical or biological weapons. ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you mean, the iTunes clause:You also agree that you will not use these products for any purposes prohibited by United States law, including, without limitation, the development, design, manufacture or production of nuclear, missiles, or chemical or biological weapons.?
?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253824</id>
	<title>Re:Does such a fabled place truly exist?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1259413800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What they didn&rsquo;t mention: &ldquo;drafted in plain or intelligible NEWSPEAK language&rdquo; ^^</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What they didn    t mention :    drafted in plain or intelligible NEWSPEAK language    ^ ^</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What they didn’t mention: “drafted in plain or intelligible NEWSPEAK language” ^^</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253112</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253348</id>
	<title>Re:oh, that</title>
	<author>risinganger</author>
	<datestamp>1259403240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I tell you what, as much as I like Java as a programming language, I'd fill my underwear in record time if I ever discovered it was used in any nuclear facility.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I tell you what , as much as I like Java as a programming language , I 'd fill my underwear in record time if I ever discovered it was used in any nuclear facility .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I tell you what, as much as I like Java as a programming language, I'd fill my underwear in record time if I ever discovered it was used in any nuclear facility.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252910</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253800</id>
	<title>Re:oh, that</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1259413260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, I guess since the Steve Jobs reality distortion bubble is a chemical and biological weapon, because it changes the chemistry and biology of the brains of the affected, you could sue them for anti-competitive behavior (hindering the development of competing reality distortion bubbles), to get that clause removed. ^^</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I guess since the Steve Jobs reality distortion bubble is a chemical and biological weapon , because it changes the chemistry and biology of the brains of the affected , you could sue them for anti-competitive behavior ( hindering the development of competing reality distortion bubbles ) , to get that clause removed .
^ ^</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, I guess since the Steve Jobs reality distortion bubble is a chemical and biological weapon, because it changes the chemistry and biology of the brains of the affected, you could sue them for anti-competitive behavior (hindering the development of competing reality distortion bubbles), to get that clause removed.
^^</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252616</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252816</id>
	<title>Re:oh, that</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259349240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Y'know, the Microsoft JVM EULA (or maybe it was the Windows 98 EULA?) had a clause almost identical to that for years before iTunes was even a concept. It bugs me every time I hear someone call it the "iTunes clause"...</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; --- Mr. DOS</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Y'know , the Microsoft JVM EULA ( or maybe it was the Windows 98 EULA ?
) had a clause almost identical to that for years before iTunes was even a concept .
It bugs me every time I hear someone call it the " iTunes clause " .. .       --- Mr. DOS</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Y'know, the Microsoft JVM EULA (or maybe it was the Windows 98 EULA?
) had a clause almost identical to that for years before iTunes was even a concept.
It bugs me every time I hear someone call it the "iTunes clause"...
      --- Mr. DOS</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252616</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30258212</id>
	<title>My favourite...</title>
	<author>Airw0lf</author>
	<datestamp>1259420160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here in New Zealand just about every console/PC game, DVD and CD vendor has decided to refuse product returns due to the "risk" of piracy. I think you can still return a product if it is blatantly defective (i.e., bad media), but otherwise you are out of luck...so it's too bad if the system requirements on the back of the box are outright lies and your machine can't run the game, or if the copy protection doesn't like your DVD drive...</p><p>Anyway, there is one retailer (JB HiFi) who have signs all over their games section which state something to the effect of: "No game returns permitted. Your consumer rights are not being violated." I kid you not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here in New Zealand just about every console/PC game , DVD and CD vendor has decided to refuse product returns due to the " risk " of piracy .
I think you can still return a product if it is blatantly defective ( i.e. , bad media ) , but otherwise you are out of luck...so it 's too bad if the system requirements on the back of the box are outright lies and your machine ca n't run the game , or if the copy protection does n't like your DVD drive...Anyway , there is one retailer ( JB HiFi ) who have signs all over their games section which state something to the effect of : " No game returns permitted .
Your consumer rights are not being violated .
" I kid you not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here in New Zealand just about every console/PC game, DVD and CD vendor has decided to refuse product returns due to the "risk" of piracy.
I think you can still return a product if it is blatantly defective (i.e., bad media), but otherwise you are out of luck...so it's too bad if the system requirements on the back of the box are outright lies and your machine can't run the game, or if the copy protection doesn't like your DVD drive...Anyway, there is one retailer (JB HiFi) who have signs all over their games section which state something to the effect of: "No game returns permitted.
Your consumer rights are not being violated.
" I kid you not.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30253452</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30255936</id>
	<title>Re:Good news...</title>
	<author>dangitman</author>
	<datestamp>1259438340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It also means they cant force an upgrade with new T&amp;Cs without giving the buyer the option of a refund.</p></div><p>When did Apple force an upgrade? Whenever you update your software, you must agree to the EULA again, otherwise the update is not installed. It's not forced in any way.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>As I've said numerous times, this is why EULAs are unenforcable in the UK.</p></div><p>Well, I suspect you've been wrong many times, because this is not a logical statement. Just because some terms in a EULA might be unenforceable, doesn't mean that EULAs as a whole are unenforceable. And the situation is identical in the USA.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It also means they cant force an upgrade with new T&amp;Cs without giving the buyer the option of a refund.When did Apple force an upgrade ?
Whenever you update your software , you must agree to the EULA again , otherwise the update is not installed .
It 's not forced in any way.As I 've said numerous times , this is why EULAs are unenforcable in the UK.Well , I suspect you 've been wrong many times , because this is not a logical statement .
Just because some terms in a EULA might be unenforceable , does n't mean that EULAs as a whole are unenforceable .
And the situation is identical in the USA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It also means they cant force an upgrade with new T&amp;Cs without giving the buyer the option of a refund.When did Apple force an upgrade?
Whenever you update your software, you must agree to the EULA again, otherwise the update is not installed.
It's not forced in any way.As I've said numerous times, this is why EULAs are unenforcable in the UK.Well, I suspect you've been wrong many times, because this is not a logical statement.
Just because some terms in a EULA might be unenforceable, doesn't mean that EULAs as a whole are unenforceable.
And the situation is identical in the USA.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30252612</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_28_013255.30256286</id>
	<title>Which one?</title>
	<author>zmaragdus</author>
	<datestamp>1259441460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> plain or intelligible language</p> </div><p>Which one is it?  Do you get to choose whether it is plain or intelligible?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>plain or intelligible language Which one is it ?
Do you get to choose whether it is plain or intelligible ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> plain or intelligible language Which one is it?
Do you get to choose whether it is plain or intelligible?
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	<title>Re:Good news...</title>
	<author>Korbeau</author>
	<datestamp>1259351340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>do not potentially allow changes</p></div><p>But the hammer..!!  The Hammer!!!</p></div>
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<tokenext>do not potentially allow changesBut the hammer.. ! !
The Hammer ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>do not potentially allow changesBut the hammer..!!
The Hammer!!
!
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