<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_27_0316240</id>
	<title>India To Have Automatic Communications Monitoring</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1259347020000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/" rel="nofollow">angry tapir</a> writes <i>"India plans to set up <a href="http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/article/327850">a centralized system to monitor communications</a> on mobile phones, landlines and the Internet in the country, a minister has told the Rajya Sabha, the upper house of Parliament. Indian laws allow the interception and monitoring of communications under certain conditions, including to counter terrorism. A pilot of the new Centralized Monitoring System (CMS) is to be started by June next year, subject to clearances by other government agencies."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>angry tapir writes " India plans to set up a centralized system to monitor communications on mobile phones , landlines and the Internet in the country , a minister has told the Rajya Sabha , the upper house of Parliament .
Indian laws allow the interception and monitoring of communications under certain conditions , including to counter terrorism .
A pilot of the new Centralized Monitoring System ( CMS ) is to be started by June next year , subject to clearances by other government agencies .
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<sentencetext>angry tapir writes "India plans to set up a centralized system to monitor communications on mobile phones, landlines and the Internet in the country, a minister has told the Rajya Sabha, the upper house of Parliament.
Indian laws allow the interception and monitoring of communications under certain conditions, including to counter terrorism.
A pilot of the new Centralized Monitoring System (CMS) is to be started by June next year, subject to clearances by other government agencies.
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</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243476</id>
	<title>Re:They are just like the Chinese.</title>
	<author>MrNaz</author>
	<datestamp>1259355540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Great. Another American high horse. Because democracy in the US of A is the gold standard by which the free world should measure itself.<br>- The US builds and holds more nuclear weapons than the rest of the world combined<br>- US military spending accounts for 60\% of the total world military spending, outpacing all other industrialized nations by more than double on a per-capita basis.<br>- An American calling another nation nationalistic is beyond pot calling the kettle black.<br>- The CIA and NSA have hundreds of stations on every other continent, and that's just what's published.<br>- Killing fetuses? Sorry, I got nothing on this one.<br>The only difference between the USA and China is that Americans *think* they are free, and no people are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who truly believes he is free. How often do you think "honor killings" actually happen? Its a crime there, called murder. The murder rate in the USA is far higher in per capita terms than in India or China.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Great .
Another American high horse .
Because democracy in the US of A is the gold standard by which the free world should measure itself.- The US builds and holds more nuclear weapons than the rest of the world combined- US military spending accounts for 60 \ % of the total world military spending , outpacing all other industrialized nations by more than double on a per-capita basis.- An American calling another nation nationalistic is beyond pot calling the kettle black.- The CIA and NSA have hundreds of stations on every other continent , and that 's just what 's published.- Killing fetuses ?
Sorry , I got nothing on this one.The only difference between the USA and China is that Americans * think * they are free , and no people are more hopelessly enslaved , as those who truly believes he is free .
How often do you think " honor killings " actually happen ?
Its a crime there , called murder .
The murder rate in the USA is far higher in per capita terms than in India or China .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Great.
Another American high horse.
Because democracy in the US of A is the gold standard by which the free world should measure itself.- The US builds and holds more nuclear weapons than the rest of the world combined- US military spending accounts for 60\% of the total world military spending, outpacing all other industrialized nations by more than double on a per-capita basis.- An American calling another nation nationalistic is beyond pot calling the kettle black.- The CIA and NSA have hundreds of stations on every other continent, and that's just what's published.- Killing fetuses?
Sorry, I got nothing on this one.The only difference between the USA and China is that Americans *think* they are free, and no people are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who truly believes he is free.
How often do you think "honor killings" actually happen?
Its a crime there, called murder.
The murder rate in the USA is far higher in per capita terms than in India or China.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30244810</id>
	<title>N900, iPhone etc.</title>
	<author>muckracer</author>
	<datestamp>1259331420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since this is happening not just in India, what measures can we take to protect ourselves? For example, with the Nokia 900 Linux-based phone or iPhone etc....do any apps exist, that will encrypt the conversations (similar to cryptophone, just actually affordable)? Anyone got any suggestions and/or experiences?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since this is happening not just in India , what measures can we take to protect ourselves ?
For example , with the Nokia 900 Linux-based phone or iPhone etc....do any apps exist , that will encrypt the conversations ( similar to cryptophone , just actually affordable ) ?
Anyone got any suggestions and/or experiences ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since this is happening not just in India, what measures can we take to protect ourselves?
For example, with the Nokia 900 Linux-based phone or iPhone etc....do any apps exist, that will encrypt the conversations (similar to cryptophone, just actually affordable)?
Anyone got any suggestions and/or experiences?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243288</id>
	<title>Should stop</title>
	<author>AHuxley</author>
	<datestamp>1259352900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The humans rights workers who expose things like this: <br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaswant\_Singh\_Khalra" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaswant\_Singh\_Khalra</a> [wikipedia.org] <br>
Burning thousands of bodies in double funeral pyres.<br>
With the help of big telcos their work and contacts can be found.<br>
A chat about national security and all is fine again<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>The humans rights workers who expose things like this : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaswant \ _Singh \ _Khalra [ wikipedia.org ] Burning thousands of bodies in double funeral pyres .
With the help of big telcos their work and contacts can be found .
A chat about national security and all is fine again : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The humans rights workers who expose things like this: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaswant\_Singh\_Khalra [wikipedia.org] 
Burning thousands of bodies in double funeral pyres.
With the help of big telcos their work and contacts can be found.
A chat about national security and all is fine again :)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243396</id>
	<title>Sound familiar?</title>
	<author>zmaragdus</author>
	<datestamp>1259354340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seems like India's version of the Patriot Act has given them some ideas on what to do with their newly-legalized abilities. At least they have the courtesy to be forward and open about it (unlike other countries {cough} USA {cough}). At the least, very few nations beyond China have instituted punishments for Thoughtcrime. Big Brother is watching you!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems like India 's version of the Patriot Act has given them some ideas on what to do with their newly-legalized abilities .
At least they have the courtesy to be forward and open about it ( unlike other countries { cough } USA { cough } ) .
At the least , very few nations beyond China have instituted punishments for Thoughtcrime .
Big Brother is watching you !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems like India's version of the Patriot Act has given them some ideas on what to do with their newly-legalized abilities.
At least they have the courtesy to be forward and open about it (unlike other countries {cough} USA {cough}).
At the least, very few nations beyond China have instituted punishments for Thoughtcrime.
Big Brother is watching you!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30244322</id>
	<title>The Indians are being very ambitious</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259323740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They've also embarked on a population registration database and ID card scheme - for a population of nearly a billion.  Given the scepticism critics have expressed here in the UK about the technical feasibility of the British Government's similar schemes (the National Identity Register and Interception Modernisation Project), I can't help feeling that the Indian officials have succumbed to an even larger dose of snake-oil than ours have.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 've also embarked on a population registration database and ID card scheme - for a population of nearly a billion .
Given the scepticism critics have expressed here in the UK about the technical feasibility of the British Government 's similar schemes ( the National Identity Register and Interception Modernisation Project ) , I ca n't help feeling that the Indian officials have succumbed to an even larger dose of snake-oil than ours have .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They've also embarked on a population registration database and ID card scheme - for a population of nearly a billion.
Given the scepticism critics have expressed here in the UK about the technical feasibility of the British Government's similar schemes (the National Identity Register and Interception Modernisation Project), I can't help feeling that the Indian officials have succumbed to an even larger dose of snake-oil than ours have.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243208</id>
	<title>Outsouring effects...</title>
	<author>canadian\_in\_beijing</author>
	<datestamp>1259265360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Kind of interesting seeing India go into spheres of protectionism like China`s firewall... early stages

Sounds like a major blow to the Indian outsourcing industry.  What major company would want any government organization intercepting their business.

Back doors implemented by the government are never good for the consumer or general Indian population.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Kind of interesting seeing India go into spheres of protectionism like China ` s firewall... early stages Sounds like a major blow to the Indian outsourcing industry .
What major company would want any government organization intercepting their business .
Back doors implemented by the government are never good for the consumer or general Indian population .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kind of interesting seeing India go into spheres of protectionism like China`s firewall... early stages

Sounds like a major blow to the Indian outsourcing industry.
What major company would want any government organization intercepting their business.
Back doors implemented by the government are never good for the consumer or general Indian population.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243474</id>
	<title>Re:They are just like the Chinese.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259355540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are thinking through your ass. There's a day and night difference between your compasison between India and china. Yeah, much of your argument holds water, but there's a lot you have missed out.</p><p>* You can challenge the government at any point of time, you simply cannot oppose the chinese government at any point of time. i can type what I want against the government at any point of time, unlike in china, where raising as much of a whimper might get you killed, or disappear without a trace.<br>* indians use a lot of their space programmes to launch satellites on a shoestring budgets, which cost a quarter or less than that of say USA., we launch our own satellites for communications, plus earn from sending satellites for other countries. USa has a lot of poor people of their own - why dont they sort their issues first ?<br>* India has a smaller nuclear arsenal than pakistan<br>* Indians are not nationalistic at all, you had that situation before liberalization.<br>* we have Indians spies, and a top RAW operative at that, defecting to the USA, and USA doing all and best to buy his way out!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are thinking through your ass .
There 's a day and night difference between your compasison between India and china .
Yeah , much of your argument holds water , but there 's a lot you have missed out .
* You can challenge the government at any point of time , you simply can not oppose the chinese government at any point of time .
i can type what I want against the government at any point of time , unlike in china , where raising as much of a whimper might get you killed , or disappear without a trace .
* indians use a lot of their space programmes to launch satellites on a shoestring budgets , which cost a quarter or less than that of say USA. , we launch our own satellites for communications , plus earn from sending satellites for other countries .
USa has a lot of poor people of their own - why dont they sort their issues first ?
* India has a smaller nuclear arsenal than pakistan * Indians are not nationalistic at all , you had that situation before liberalization .
* we have Indians spies , and a top RAW operative at that , defecting to the USA , and USA doing all and best to buy his way out !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are thinking through your ass.
There's a day and night difference between your compasison between India and china.
Yeah, much of your argument holds water, but there's a lot you have missed out.
* You can challenge the government at any point of time, you simply cannot oppose the chinese government at any point of time.
i can type what I want against the government at any point of time, unlike in china, where raising as much of a whimper might get you killed, or disappear without a trace.
* indians use a lot of their space programmes to launch satellites on a shoestring budgets, which cost a quarter or less than that of say USA., we launch our own satellites for communications, plus earn from sending satellites for other countries.
USa has a lot of poor people of their own - why dont they sort their issues first ?
* India has a smaller nuclear arsenal than pakistan* Indians are not nationalistic at all, you had that situation before liberalization.
* we have Indians spies, and a top RAW operative at that, defecting to the USA, and USA doing all and best to buy his way out!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243348</id>
	<title>Re:Priorities</title>
	<author>mister\_playboy</author>
	<datestamp>1259353800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's karma, bro!  Shouldn't have been a douchbag in your past life...</p><p>This is just a clear example of how "fighting terrorism" is merely used to justify any increase in surveillance on the populace. Actually giving a shit about the welfare of the individual citizens isn't even on the radar.  That's why the argument is so useful, since it's up to each citizen to add "for my wellbeing" to "fighting terrorism"... they feel like they are agreeing with the given reason when they fill in the blank.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's karma , bro !
Should n't have been a douchbag in your past life...This is just a clear example of how " fighting terrorism " is merely used to justify any increase in surveillance on the populace .
Actually giving a shit about the welfare of the individual citizens is n't even on the radar .
That 's why the argument is so useful , since it 's up to each citizen to add " for my wellbeing " to " fighting terrorism " ... they feel like they are agreeing with the given reason when they fill in the blank .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's karma, bro!
Shouldn't have been a douchbag in your past life...This is just a clear example of how "fighting terrorism" is merely used to justify any increase in surveillance on the populace.
Actually giving a shit about the welfare of the individual citizens isn't even on the radar.
That's why the argument is so useful, since it's up to each citizen to add "for my wellbeing" to "fighting terrorism"... they feel like they are agreeing with the given reason when they fill in the blank.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30244434</id>
	<title>Re:Impractical. Money not well spent.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259325180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not just money not well spent. Its a criminal waste of funds during the most severe drought in recent history and record starvation numbers in the country. The government will throw money down the drain to appease the media which is baying for blood on the anniversary of the Mumbai terror attacks.</p><p>I'm an Indian, by the way</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not just money not well spent .
Its a criminal waste of funds during the most severe drought in recent history and record starvation numbers in the country .
The government will throw money down the drain to appease the media which is baying for blood on the anniversary of the Mumbai terror attacks.I 'm an Indian , by the way</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not just money not well spent.
Its a criminal waste of funds during the most severe drought in recent history and record starvation numbers in the country.
The government will throw money down the drain to appease the media which is baying for blood on the anniversary of the Mumbai terror attacks.I'm an Indian, by the way</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30244784</id>
	<title>Re:Impractical. Money not well spent.</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1259331180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Considering how, supposedly, the ratio of SMS to voice traffic is much higher in India and other developing economies, this isn't that far-fetched as it seems.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Considering how , supposedly , the ratio of SMS to voice traffic is much higher in India and other developing economies , this is n't that far-fetched as it seems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Considering how, supposedly, the ratio of SMS to voice traffic is much higher in India and other developing economies, this isn't that far-fetched as it seems.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243198</id>
	<title>At least we know...</title>
	<author>brindafella</author>
	<datestamp>1259265240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>At least we know that there will be a system like this. In many countries it is suspected, there's a "wink and a nod", someone says there's such a system, etc, but there's no proof. In India, there will be no doubt.</htmltext>
<tokenext>At least we know that there will be a system like this .
In many countries it is suspected , there 's a " wink and a nod " , someone says there 's such a system , etc , but there 's no proof .
In India , there will be no doubt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least we know that there will be a system like this.
In many countries it is suspected, there's a "wink and a nod", someone says there's such a system, etc, but there's no proof.
In India, there will be no doubt.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243350</id>
	<title>HA!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259353800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I read this as " India To Have Autistic Communications Monitoring" and I thought "Well that wouldn't be very useful, would it?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I read this as " India To Have Autistic Communications Monitoring " and I thought " Well that would n't be very useful , would it ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read this as " India To Have Autistic Communications Monitoring" and I thought "Well that wouldn't be very useful, would it?
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30245172</id>
	<title>Re:At least we know...</title>
	<author>Fred\_A</author>
	<datestamp>1259335140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>At least we know that there will be a system like this. In many countries it is suspected, there's a "wink and a nod", someone says there's such a system, etc, but there's no proof. In India, there will be no doubt.</p></div><p>It also shows that unlike many others, the Indians do not "think of the children".<br>Shameful.<br>Todays children are the terr..., no, freedom figh... uh, ah yes, <em>consumers</em> of tomorrow ! Think of the children !</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>At least we know that there will be a system like this .
In many countries it is suspected , there 's a " wink and a nod " , someone says there 's such a system , etc , but there 's no proof .
In India , there will be no doubt.It also shows that unlike many others , the Indians do not " think of the children " .Shameful.Todays children are the terr... , no , freedom figh... uh , ah yes , consumers of tomorrow !
Think of the children !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least we know that there will be a system like this.
In many countries it is suspected, there's a "wink and a nod", someone says there's such a system, etc, but there's no proof.
In India, there will be no doubt.It also shows that unlike many others, the Indians do not "think of the children".Shameful.Todays children are the terr..., no, freedom figh... uh, ah yes, consumers of tomorrow !
Think of the children !
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243512</id>
	<title>Re:They already have this!</title>
	<author>davester666</author>
	<datestamp>1259312640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>to ensure nobody can hear what the other side is saying...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>to ensure nobody can hear what the other side is saying.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>to ensure nobody can hear what the other side is saying...</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30245438</id>
	<title>It's not true, don't believe it</title>
	<author>BhaKi</author>
	<datestamp>1259337300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>No popular Indian newspaper reported anything like that. I'm pretty sure that this news has been created by the manipulation wing of CIA and published by its media partners. Those filthy bastards don't like to be idle. Now that they've exhausted all the crap they can publish about China, they've turned towards India. Please don't believe them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No popular Indian newspaper reported anything like that .
I 'm pretty sure that this news has been created by the manipulation wing of CIA and published by its media partners .
Those filthy bastards do n't like to be idle .
Now that they 've exhausted all the crap they can publish about China , they 've turned towards India .
Please do n't believe them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No popular Indian newspaper reported anything like that.
I'm pretty sure that this news has been created by the manipulation wing of CIA and published by its media partners.
Those filthy bastards don't like to be idle.
Now that they've exhausted all the crap they can publish about China, they've turned towards India.
Please don't believe them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243660</id>
	<title>Mandatory registration...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259314680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Considering that all SIMs and landline phones must be registered to a particular person--down to the PAN (like SSN/SIN) or passport number of foreign nationals, which is then actually verified--this has some pretty frightening implications.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Considering that all SIMs and landline phones must be registered to a particular person--down to the PAN ( like SSN/SIN ) or passport number of foreign nationals , which is then actually verified--this has some pretty frightening implications .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Considering that all SIMs and landline phones must be registered to a particular person--down to the PAN (like SSN/SIN) or passport number of foreign nationals, which is then actually verified--this has some pretty frightening implications.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30246678</id>
	<title>Re:Priorities</title>
	<author>binaryartist</author>
	<datestamp>1259345460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So, are you saying there should be no investment in defence or counter-terrorism or space programs just because people are (quoting you) "pissing and shitting on the streets"? One Idea is that Investing in security will create a safe environment that will create jobs that will eventually decrease poverty ( I guess a more dignified way to put it? )</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , are you saying there should be no investment in defence or counter-terrorism or space programs just because people are ( quoting you ) " pissing and shitting on the streets " ?
One Idea is that Investing in security will create a safe environment that will create jobs that will eventually decrease poverty ( I guess a more dignified way to put it ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, are you saying there should be no investment in defence or counter-terrorism or space programs just because people are (quoting you) "pissing and shitting on the streets"?
One Idea is that Investing in security will create a safe environment that will create jobs that will eventually decrease poverty ( I guess a more dignified way to put it?
)</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243754</id>
	<title>World's largest democracy!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259315940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>World's largest democracy!<br>World's largest democracy!<br>World's largest democracy!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>World 's largest democracy ! World 's largest democracy ! World 's largest democracy !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>World's largest democracy!World's largest democracy!World's largest democracy!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243322</id>
	<title>Re:Priorities</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259353440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That hardly characterizes the majority of India.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That hardly characterizes the majority of India .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That hardly characterizes the majority of India.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243204</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243196</id>
	<title>Support</title>
	<author>rhook</author>
	<datestamp>1259265240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I feel bad for whoever has to read the transcripts from all those tech support calls.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I feel bad for whoever has to read the transcripts from all those tech support calls .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I feel bad for whoever has to read the transcripts from all those tech support calls.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243312</id>
	<title>The internet?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259353200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Monitoring the internet?</p><p>Problems:<br>-You are going to get a huge list. Looking through it is unrealistic.<br>-You are going to get a huge list. You need space to store this. *This* problem is solvable, but, realistically is it worth it?<br>-I am sure there are more teenagers who google "how to make bomb" than there are terrorists.<br>-Anyone doing anything "secret" will just use a proxy. Sure, there are ways to find out what site they viewed anyway, but first you would have to single them out, out of the many results, knowing that they used a proxy.<br>-Again, the list will be huge. There is no way you are going to learn how each site interfaces with the user, therefore, all you have is the site they visited and not the way they used it.<br>-And, of course, people doing anything "secret" can easily encrypt their email/what not which fucks the whole thing. I anyone encrypts their email right now, but if something like this started to catch people, people doing... important things would start to encrypt their email.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Monitoring the internet ? Problems : -You are going to get a huge list .
Looking through it is unrealistic.-You are going to get a huge list .
You need space to store this .
* This * problem is solvable , but , realistically is it worth it ? -I am sure there are more teenagers who google " how to make bomb " than there are terrorists.-Anyone doing anything " secret " will just use a proxy .
Sure , there are ways to find out what site they viewed anyway , but first you would have to single them out , out of the many results , knowing that they used a proxy.-Again , the list will be huge .
There is no way you are going to learn how each site interfaces with the user , therefore , all you have is the site they visited and not the way they used it.-And , of course , people doing anything " secret " can easily encrypt their email/what not which fucks the whole thing .
I anyone encrypts their email right now , but if something like this started to catch people , people doing... important things would start to encrypt their email .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Monitoring the internet?Problems:-You are going to get a huge list.
Looking through it is unrealistic.-You are going to get a huge list.
You need space to store this.
*This* problem is solvable, but, realistically is it worth it?-I am sure there are more teenagers who google "how to make bomb" than there are terrorists.-Anyone doing anything "secret" will just use a proxy.
Sure, there are ways to find out what site they viewed anyway, but first you would have to single them out, out of the many results, knowing that they used a proxy.-Again, the list will be huge.
There is no way you are going to learn how each site interfaces with the user, therefore, all you have is the site they visited and not the way they used it.-And, of course, people doing anything "secret" can easily encrypt their email/what not which fucks the whole thing.
I anyone encrypts their email right now, but if something like this started to catch people, people doing... important things would start to encrypt their email.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243510</id>
	<title>Not in the Third World now!</title>
	<author>AliasMarlowe</author>
	<datestamp>1259312640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The overlords of spying welcome you now as one of the "advanced" countries of the world.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The overlords of spying welcome you now as one of the " advanced " countries of the world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The overlords of spying welcome you now as one of the "advanced" countries of the world.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243180</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243952</id>
	<title>Re:Priorities</title>
	<author>MichaelSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1259318220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Its the same all over the third world. For example it is considered normal in Malaysia to stack piles of household rubbish beside the road. This happens in towns and urban areas. I saw one otherwise idyllic fishing village on Pulau Langkawi with a huge pile of rotting garbage right on the road leading into the village.</p><p>Every new generation will make some improvement as a few of their people soak up the norms from the first world countries. I don't think it has anything to do with the Government. Its just about what seems normal for the people there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its the same all over the third world .
For example it is considered normal in Malaysia to stack piles of household rubbish beside the road .
This happens in towns and urban areas .
I saw one otherwise idyllic fishing village on Pulau Langkawi with a huge pile of rotting garbage right on the road leading into the village.Every new generation will make some improvement as a few of their people soak up the norms from the first world countries .
I do n't think it has anything to do with the Government .
Its just about what seems normal for the people there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its the same all over the third world.
For example it is considered normal in Malaysia to stack piles of household rubbish beside the road.
This happens in towns and urban areas.
I saw one otherwise idyllic fishing village on Pulau Langkawi with a huge pile of rotting garbage right on the road leading into the village.Every new generation will make some improvement as a few of their people soak up the norms from the first world countries.
I don't think it has anything to do with the Government.
Its just about what seems normal for the people there.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243540</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243682</id>
	<title>So what? Chill out.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259315040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For all the moaning, nobody is taking any steps to stop it, so why not just chill out, sit back, and accept the inevitable.</p><p>That's what you get for sitting on your fat butt moaning all day while your representative in parliament is busy toadying up to big business and the security services.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For all the moaning , nobody is taking any steps to stop it , so why not just chill out , sit back , and accept the inevitable.That 's what you get for sitting on your fat butt moaning all day while your representative in parliament is busy toadying up to big business and the security services .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For all the moaning, nobody is taking any steps to stop it, so why not just chill out, sit back, and accept the inevitable.That's what you get for sitting on your fat butt moaning all day while your representative in parliament is busy toadying up to big business and the security services.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243214</id>
	<title>Mmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259265420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Indian pussy is pretty sweet pussy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Indian pussy is pretty sweet pussy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Indian pussy is pretty sweet pussy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243204</id>
	<title>Priorities</title>
	<author>Ethanol-fueled</author>
	<datestamp>1259265300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>So they want to spend the money and effort to roll this out while people are pissing and shitting on the streets in holes, and showering with buckets?!</htmltext>
<tokenext>So they want to spend the money and effort to roll this out while people are pissing and shitting on the streets in holes , and showering with buckets ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So they want to spend the money and effort to roll this out while people are pissing and shitting on the streets in holes, and showering with buckets?
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243240</id>
	<title>CMS</title>
	<author>gzipped\_tar</author>
	<datestamp>1259352240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So now CMS stands for "centralized monitoring system"... but Indians are doing an amateur job here, because anything centralized is doomed to become the single point of failure.</p><p>Real (social-)Engineers knows better: don't put all your eggs in one basket. E.g. <a href="http://world.std.com/~cme/html/quotes.html" title="std.com" rel="nofollow">Decentralized, distributed, p2p web of surveillance in the clouds.</a> [std.com] (Grep for "Web Of Distrust" to see the relevant part.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So now CMS stands for " centralized monitoring system " ... but Indians are doing an amateur job here , because anything centralized is doomed to become the single point of failure.Real ( social- ) Engineers knows better : do n't put all your eggs in one basket .
E.g. Decentralized , distributed , p2p web of surveillance in the clouds .
[ std.com ] ( Grep for " Web Of Distrust " to see the relevant part .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So now CMS stands for "centralized monitoring system"... but Indians are doing an amateur job here, because anything centralized is doomed to become the single point of failure.Real (social-)Engineers knows better: don't put all your eggs in one basket.
E.g. Decentralized, distributed, p2p web of surveillance in the clouds.
[std.com] (Grep for "Web Of Distrust" to see the relevant part.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243180</id>
	<title>They already have this!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259265120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your call may be monitored for quality control purposes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your call may be monitored for quality control purposes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your call may be monitored for quality control purposes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243406</id>
	<title>A good move</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259354520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To those who are living in *free* countries: Do you really believe you are not being monitored? if yes, I want to sell you a tower in this city of Paris.</p><p>My hunch is that this is aimed at Muslims, who are responsible for most of the recent terror attacks. If a system like this can help, it has my blessings.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To those who are living in * free * countries : Do you really believe you are not being monitored ?
if yes , I want to sell you a tower in this city of Paris.My hunch is that this is aimed at Muslims , who are responsible for most of the recent terror attacks .
If a system like this can help , it has my blessings .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To those who are living in *free* countries: Do you really believe you are not being monitored?
if yes, I want to sell you a tower in this city of Paris.My hunch is that this is aimed at Muslims, who are responsible for most of the recent terror attacks.
If a system like this can help, it has my blessings.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243644</id>
	<title>That will have VERY interesting side effects..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259314500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just imagine, you're the average multinational who has outsourced operations to India.  From now on, every fragment of your communication can now be accessed by the Indian government.</p><p>Hell, why bother with industrial espionage, let's just follow the US model..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just imagine , you 're the average multinational who has outsourced operations to India .
From now on , every fragment of your communication can now be accessed by the Indian government.Hell , why bother with industrial espionage , let 's just follow the US model. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just imagine, you're the average multinational who has outsourced operations to India.
From now on, every fragment of your communication can now be accessed by the Indian government.Hell, why bother with industrial espionage, let's just follow the US model..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30244604</id>
	<title>Re:Priorities</title>
	<author>calanor</author>
	<datestamp>1259328120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The telecommunication services are in good shape because people want it, and its "what PEOPLE want drives the market and services".
Telecommunication in india is not driven by a government agencies (yeah it is monitored by TRAI so that consumers don't get screwed by companies like, i think, is the case in US) so whats your point about priorities problem with higher-ups ?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The telecommunication services are in good shape because people want it , and its " what PEOPLE want drives the market and services " .
Telecommunication in india is not driven by a government agencies ( yeah it is monitored by TRAI so that consumers do n't get screwed by companies like , i think , is the case in US ) so whats your point about priorities problem with higher-ups ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The telecommunication services are in good shape because people want it, and its "what PEOPLE want drives the market and services".
Telecommunication in india is not driven by a government agencies (yeah it is monitored by TRAI so that consumers don't get screwed by companies like, i think, is the case in US) so whats your point about priorities problem with higher-ups ?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243540</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243648</id>
	<title>Re:They already have this!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259314500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... haa haa haa<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... lets laugh.

The "quality <b>control</b>" is done by American ivy-league graduates who don't have any clue about what to do with their MBAs.
So <i>"they"</i> don't have this.
US of A has it.

Sometimes it appears US of A with all its democratic pandering is the biggest and most horrible enemy of democracy. Snooping innocent citizens and letting the elite pull the strings. Seems no difference between modern US of A and Stalinistic Russia.

Its fun to see Americans making half-assed comments about a country which is the sole reason their land was discovered by Columbus. Haa haa haa.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah ... haa haa haa ... lets laugh .
The " quality control " is done by American ivy-league graduates who do n't have any clue about what to do with their MBAs .
So " they " do n't have this .
US of A has it .
Sometimes it appears US of A with all its democratic pandering is the biggest and most horrible enemy of democracy .
Snooping innocent citizens and letting the elite pull the strings .
Seems no difference between modern US of A and Stalinistic Russia .
Its fun to see Americans making half-assed comments about a country which is the sole reason their land was discovered by Columbus .
Haa haa haa .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah ... haa haa haa ... lets laugh.
The "quality control" is done by American ivy-league graduates who don't have any clue about what to do with their MBAs.
So "they" don't have this.
US of A has it.
Sometimes it appears US of A with all its democratic pandering is the biggest and most horrible enemy of democracy.
Snooping innocent citizens and letting the elite pull the strings.
Seems no difference between modern US of A and Stalinistic Russia.
Its fun to see Americans making half-assed comments about a country which is the sole reason their land was discovered by Columbus.
Haa haa haa.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243180</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243202</id>
	<title>Impractical. Money not well spent.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259265300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For a country of 1 billion people where even the remotest of villages are obsessed with mobile phones, it is highly unrealistic to expect complete mobile monitoring. The money probably is much better spent in other more deserving development efforts. Add to that 26 official languages and thousands of regional dialects for which speech to text hasn't been properly researched yet, it is completely unresonable.</p><p>Also, finding loopholes in such a huge system, I think wouldn't present a problem. A simple word substitution would do the trick?</p><p>Plus the lack of privacy would probably mean the corruption in the government \_will\_ work against the idea. (Maybe high level politicos can wriggle out of it, but the rest?)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For a country of 1 billion people where even the remotest of villages are obsessed with mobile phones , it is highly unrealistic to expect complete mobile monitoring .
The money probably is much better spent in other more deserving development efforts .
Add to that 26 official languages and thousands of regional dialects for which speech to text has n't been properly researched yet , it is completely unresonable.Also , finding loopholes in such a huge system , I think would n't present a problem .
A simple word substitution would do the trick ? Plus the lack of privacy would probably mean the corruption in the government \ _will \ _ work against the idea .
( Maybe high level politicos can wriggle out of it , but the rest ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For a country of 1 billion people where even the remotest of villages are obsessed with mobile phones, it is highly unrealistic to expect complete mobile monitoring.
The money probably is much better spent in other more deserving development efforts.
Add to that 26 official languages and thousands of regional dialects for which speech to text hasn't been properly researched yet, it is completely unresonable.Also, finding loopholes in such a huge system, I think wouldn't present a problem.
A simple word substitution would do the trick?Plus the lack of privacy would probably mean the corruption in the government \_will\_ work against the idea.
(Maybe high level politicos can wriggle out of it, but the rest?
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30255266</id>
	<title>Another Google</title>
	<author>mahadiga</author>
	<datestamp>1259431440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Are they going to create a <i>Google</i> to index &amp; search those communications?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are they going to create a Google to index &amp; search those communications ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are they going to create a Google to index &amp; search those communications?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243540</id>
	<title>Re:Priorities</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259313000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've been to India. Some of the clearest cell reception I got was in this little wide-spot in the road in this little valley cradled in the foothills of the Himalayas. They had no police protection (for all the good that does you over there), they didn't have consistent electricity, they drew their water from the river and their idea of modern sanitation was a porcelain hole in the ground and not looking at the riverbanks where they dumped their garbage, but they had damn fine cell reception.<br> <br>That country's higher-ups have some serious priorities problems.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been to India .
Some of the clearest cell reception I got was in this little wide-spot in the road in this little valley cradled in the foothills of the Himalayas .
They had no police protection ( for all the good that does you over there ) , they did n't have consistent electricity , they drew their water from the river and their idea of modern sanitation was a porcelain hole in the ground and not looking at the riverbanks where they dumped their garbage , but they had damn fine cell reception .
That country 's higher-ups have some serious priorities problems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been to India.
Some of the clearest cell reception I got was in this little wide-spot in the road in this little valley cradled in the foothills of the Himalayas.
They had no police protection (for all the good that does you over there), they didn't have consistent electricity, they drew their water from the river and their idea of modern sanitation was a porcelain hole in the ground and not looking at the riverbanks where they dumped their garbage, but they had damn fine cell reception.
That country's higher-ups have some serious priorities problems.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243204</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243900</id>
	<title>bit3h</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259317740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>but suffice it AAl along. *BSD Who sell another</htmltext>
<tokenext>but suffice it AAl along .
* BSD Who sell another</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but suffice it AAl along.
*BSD Who sell another</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243836</id>
	<title>Re:Priorities</title>
	<author>mxh83</author>
	<datestamp>1259317200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Are you actually judging India by what you experienced in the Himalayas?  How stupid are you?  That's like judging US by visiting mountains and campgrounds.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you actually judging India by what you experienced in the Himalayas ?
How stupid are you ?
That 's like judging US by visiting mountains and campgrounds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you actually judging India by what you experienced in the Himalayas?
How stupid are you?
That's like judging US by visiting mountains and campgrounds.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243540</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243258</id>
	<title>Inefficient current systems</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259352420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I remember 5 years back, there was this group of kidnappers that had to be nailed in Northern India and police had no proper equipment to trace their communications. Finally, some geeks and a professor were hired by police and they were successfully nabbed. Such a system is essential in India considering terrorist threats from Islamic and China supported socialist maoist extremists.</p><p>However, I am nervous as well, as I certainly wouldn't want corrupt govt. agencies snooping up on me<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember 5 years back , there was this group of kidnappers that had to be nailed in Northern India and police had no proper equipment to trace their communications .
Finally , some geeks and a professor were hired by police and they were successfully nabbed .
Such a system is essential in India considering terrorist threats from Islamic and China supported socialist maoist extremists.However , I am nervous as well , as I certainly would n't want corrupt govt .
agencies snooping up on me : (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember 5 years back, there was this group of kidnappers that had to be nailed in Northern India and police had no proper equipment to trace their communications.
Finally, some geeks and a professor were hired by police and they were successfully nabbed.
Such a system is essential in India considering terrorist threats from Islamic and China supported socialist maoist extremists.However, I am nervous as well, as I certainly wouldn't want corrupt govt.
agencies snooping up on me :(</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30253436</id>
	<title>Please, could you</title>
	<author>mahadiga</author>
	<datestamp>1259405700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you meet anybody from India ask him for his CASTE to let him know that your country is concerned about RACISM in India.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you meet anybody from India ask him for his CASTE to let him know that your country is concerned about RACISM in India .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you meet anybody from India ask him for his CASTE to let him know that your country is concerned about RACISM in India.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243870</id>
	<title>Holy cow...</title>
	<author>flyingfsck</author>
	<datestamp>1259317500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A country with so many languages and gods probably needs such a system, but implementing it would be a nightmare.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A country with so many languages and gods probably needs such a system , but implementing it would be a nightmare .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A country with so many languages and gods probably needs such a system, but implementing it would be a nightmare.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30244260</id>
	<title>Re:Priorities</title>
	<author>8086</author>
	<datestamp>1259322660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>'Showering' with buckets is actually not that bad. You end up saving a lot of water that way, and you can control the water's temperature more easily (as opposed to having to constantly adjust the hot/cold knob). I used to do it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>'Showering ' with buckets is actually not that bad .
You end up saving a lot of water that way , and you can control the water 's temperature more easily ( as opposed to having to constantly adjust the hot/cold knob ) .
I used to do it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>'Showering' with buckets is actually not that bad.
You end up saving a lot of water that way, and you can control the water's temperature more easily (as opposed to having to constantly adjust the hot/cold knob).
I used to do it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243204</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30244160</id>
	<title>Spammers attention</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259320980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Did you know you can get 1000x the coverage and attention to your spam messages and websites by including names of notable politicians, places and threatening words and verbs in them?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did you know you can get 1000x the coverage and attention to your spam messages and websites by including names of notable politicians , places and threatening words and verbs in them ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did you know you can get 1000x the coverage and attention to your spam messages and websites by including names of notable politicians, places and threatening words and verbs in them?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30244774</id>
	<title>Re:Outsouring effects...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259331060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I really hope your companies make a big fuss about this, though I don't have much hope.<br>The response from 90\% of indians will be "Good". There's no concept of privacy here. Probably comes from rubbing elbows with people each time you go out and being around prying family from birth. A lot of people didn't know what the big deal was when batman could see everything in Dark Knight.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I really hope your companies make a big fuss about this , though I do n't have much hope.The response from 90 \ % of indians will be " Good " .
There 's no concept of privacy here .
Probably comes from rubbing elbows with people each time you go out and being around prying family from birth .
A lot of people did n't know what the big deal was when batman could see everything in Dark Knight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really hope your companies make a big fuss about this, though I don't have much hope.The response from 90\% of indians will be "Good".
There's no concept of privacy here.
Probably comes from rubbing elbows with people each time you go out and being around prying family from birth.
A lot of people didn't know what the big deal was when batman could see everything in Dark Knight.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243208</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243704</id>
	<title>Re:Impractical. Money not well spent.</title>
	<author>mxh83</author>
	<datestamp>1259315340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I always find people who say "Why spend money on all this tech.. let's put food on the table for so many thousands" extremely naive and stupid.
What's the point of giving all those things to those people if we're suddenly nuked?  Is free food and clothing going to defend against terrorist plots?  A country that helps the poor while others spend on space research, could look extremely stupid when 20 years down the line, it's dominated by others that put their monies in greener pastures.  Also we need to explore feasibility of life on other planets because the human race is would be a waste if it puts all its eggs in one basket.  Ultimately knowledge is strength and the smartest country and not the most well fed one will prevail.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I always find people who say " Why spend money on all this tech.. let 's put food on the table for so many thousands " extremely naive and stupid .
What 's the point of giving all those things to those people if we 're suddenly nuked ?
Is free food and clothing going to defend against terrorist plots ?
A country that helps the poor while others spend on space research , could look extremely stupid when 20 years down the line , it 's dominated by others that put their monies in greener pastures .
Also we need to explore feasibility of life on other planets because the human race is would be a waste if it puts all its eggs in one basket .
Ultimately knowledge is strength and the smartest country and not the most well fed one will prevail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I always find people who say "Why spend money on all this tech.. let's put food on the table for so many thousands" extremely naive and stupid.
What's the point of giving all those things to those people if we're suddenly nuked?
Is free food and clothing going to defend against terrorist plots?
A country that helps the poor while others spend on space research, could look extremely stupid when 20 years down the line, it's dominated by others that put their monies in greener pastures.
Also we need to explore feasibility of life on other planets because the human race is would be a waste if it puts all its eggs in one basket.
Ultimately knowledge is strength and the smartest country and not the most well fed one will prevail.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243200</id>
	<title>Spain has it too</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259265240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Look for "SITEL" in Spain, the actual government monitorizes the communications without judges control.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Look for " SITEL " in Spain , the actual government monitorizes the communications without judges control .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look for "SITEL" in Spain, the actual government monitorizes the communications without judges control.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30246242</id>
	<title>Encryption.</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1259342340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Problem solved.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Problem solved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Problem solved.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243308</id>
	<title>implementation..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259353140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>god knows how are they planning to implement this.. i seriously doubt if this can be implemented, lot of such ground breaking/interesting/first of its kind/mouth-watering/first-time-in- the-world "Projects" are announced but they seldom see the light of the day..</htmltext>
<tokenext>god knows how are they planning to implement this.. i seriously doubt if this can be implemented , lot of such ground breaking/interesting/first of its kind/mouth-watering/first-time-in- the-world " Projects " are announced but they seldom see the light of the day. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>god knows how are they planning to implement this.. i seriously doubt if this can be implemented, lot of such ground breaking/interesting/first of its kind/mouth-watering/first-time-in- the-world "Projects" are announced but they seldom see the light of the day..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243318</id>
	<title>Re:Impractical. Money not well spent.</title>
	<author>icebike</author>
	<datestamp>1259353380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> The money probably is much better spent in other more deserving development efforts.</p></div><p>It seems likely they are more interested in cross-boarder calls than from housewife to local market or mobile to mobile.</p><p>I suspect these intercepts would be used for after-the-fact interdiction rather than prevention of terrorism. In such cases, having the conversations on hard drive or tape is more important than someone finding the odd word or phrase that signals an attack.</p><p>As for the money being better spent, I submit that in this economy ANY spending by government is as useful as any other, and training people for high-tech jobs in telecommunications is probably as worth while as any equivalent spending on water or sewer or street projects.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The money probably is much better spent in other more deserving development efforts.It seems likely they are more interested in cross-boarder calls than from housewife to local market or mobile to mobile.I suspect these intercepts would be used for after-the-fact interdiction rather than prevention of terrorism .
In such cases , having the conversations on hard drive or tape is more important than someone finding the odd word or phrase that signals an attack.As for the money being better spent , I submit that in this economy ANY spending by government is as useful as any other , and training people for high-tech jobs in telecommunications is probably as worth while as any equivalent spending on water or sewer or street projects .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> The money probably is much better spent in other more deserving development efforts.It seems likely they are more interested in cross-boarder calls than from housewife to local market or mobile to mobile.I suspect these intercepts would be used for after-the-fact interdiction rather than prevention of terrorism.
In such cases, having the conversations on hard drive or tape is more important than someone finding the odd word or phrase that signals an attack.As for the money being better spent, I submit that in this economy ANY spending by government is as useful as any other, and training people for high-tech jobs in telecommunications is probably as worth while as any equivalent spending on water or sewer or street projects.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243398</id>
	<title>They are just like the Chinese.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259354340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The irony of India is that the Indian democracy is so flawed that it is little better than the Chinese dictatorship of President Hu Jintao.
<p>
Though India is a supposed democracy, it shares numerous similarities with China.  Both India and China are impoverished, but Chinese wealth is inceasing more rapidly than Indian wealth.  In fact, India is so screwed up that it is often presented as a rebuttal against the claim that wealth generation requires a democracy.
</p><p>
Both India and China aggressively build nuclear weapons.
</p><p>
Both India and China waste money on the race into outer space when both countries are still quite
poor.
</p><p>
Both Indians and Chinese are nationalistic to a fault.
</p><p>
Both Indians and Chinese send spies to the USA.
</p><p>
Both Indians and Chinese kill female fetuses, resulting in a skewed ratio of 1.08 male babies to 1.0 female babies.
</p><p>
The only differences between India and China are that India is a democracy and has a popular sport called "honor killings" (by which brides are murdered if they "dishonor" their husbands).  Besides these 2 differences, everything else is the same -- including government monitoring of private Internet and phone communication.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The irony of India is that the Indian democracy is so flawed that it is little better than the Chinese dictatorship of President Hu Jintao .
Though India is a supposed democracy , it shares numerous similarities with China .
Both India and China are impoverished , but Chinese wealth is inceasing more rapidly than Indian wealth .
In fact , India is so screwed up that it is often presented as a rebuttal against the claim that wealth generation requires a democracy .
Both India and China aggressively build nuclear weapons .
Both India and China waste money on the race into outer space when both countries are still quite poor .
Both Indians and Chinese are nationalistic to a fault .
Both Indians and Chinese send spies to the USA .
Both Indians and Chinese kill female fetuses , resulting in a skewed ratio of 1.08 male babies to 1.0 female babies .
The only differences between India and China are that India is a democracy and has a popular sport called " honor killings " ( by which brides are murdered if they " dishonor " their husbands ) .
Besides these 2 differences , everything else is the same -- including government monitoring of private Internet and phone communication .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The irony of India is that the Indian democracy is so flawed that it is little better than the Chinese dictatorship of President Hu Jintao.
Though India is a supposed democracy, it shares numerous similarities with China.
Both India and China are impoverished, but Chinese wealth is inceasing more rapidly than Indian wealth.
In fact, India is so screwed up that it is often presented as a rebuttal against the claim that wealth generation requires a democracy.
Both India and China aggressively build nuclear weapons.
Both India and China waste money on the race into outer space when both countries are still quite
poor.
Both Indians and Chinese are nationalistic to a fault.
Both Indians and Chinese send spies to the USA.
Both Indians and Chinese kill female fetuses, resulting in a skewed ratio of 1.08 male babies to 1.0 female babies.
The only differences between India and China are that India is a democracy and has a popular sport called "honor killings" (by which brides are murdered if they "dishonor" their husbands).
Besides these 2 differences, everything else is the same -- including government monitoring of private Internet and phone communication.
</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30244148</id>
	<title>encryption</title>
	<author>StripedCow</author>
	<datestamp>1259320800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why worry about this when we're already en-masse handing over all our private information to gmail? You don't think these communications are<br>monitored? Of course they are, at least for advertisement-purposes.</p><p>I say we need encryption at the client-to-client level. Something by which we can still use gmail, but in such a way that even google cannot inspect our communications.</p><p>I guess that some simple extensions to javascript/html would do the trick (in principle it could be done in javascript, but you'll also want to encrypt attachments).<br>However, I have the feeling that at least in chrome we won't see such an extension coming soon... perhaps firefox... (there's already a plugin called firegpg but I'm not sure if it encrypts attachments).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why worry about this when we 're already en-masse handing over all our private information to gmail ?
You do n't think these communications aremonitored ?
Of course they are , at least for advertisement-purposes.I say we need encryption at the client-to-client level .
Something by which we can still use gmail , but in such a way that even google can not inspect our communications.I guess that some simple extensions to javascript/html would do the trick ( in principle it could be done in javascript , but you 'll also want to encrypt attachments ) .However , I have the feeling that at least in chrome we wo n't see such an extension coming soon... perhaps firefox... ( there 's already a plugin called firegpg but I 'm not sure if it encrypts attachments ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why worry about this when we're already en-masse handing over all our private information to gmail?
You don't think these communications aremonitored?
Of course they are, at least for advertisement-purposes.I say we need encryption at the client-to-client level.
Something by which we can still use gmail, but in such a way that even google cannot inspect our communications.I guess that some simple extensions to javascript/html would do the trick (in principle it could be done in javascript, but you'll also want to encrypt attachments).However, I have the feeling that at least in chrome we won't see such an extension coming soon... perhaps firefox... (there's already a plugin called firegpg but I'm not sure if it encrypts attachments).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243848</id>
	<title>Re:They are just like the Chinese.</title>
	<author>ShakaUVM</author>
	<datestamp>1259317320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, at least they can't blame it on the 2-party system in India, eh?</p><p>Kinda takes the wind out of the sail out of a lot of the parroted arguments made on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , at least they ca n't blame it on the 2-party system in India , eh ? Kinda takes the wind out of the sail out of a lot of the parroted arguments made on /. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, at least they can't blame it on the 2-party system in India, eh?Kinda takes the wind out of the sail out of a lot of the parroted arguments made on /..</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_27_0316240.30243398</parent>
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