<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_26_1654244</id>
	<title>Toshiba Employee Arrested For Selling Software To Break Copy Limits</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1259255400000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>JoshuaInNippon writes <i>"A Toshiba employee in western Japan has been arrested on charges of copyright violations for selling software online that <a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-16352-Japan-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m11d25-Man-arrested-in-Japan-for-selling-digital-TV-copying-software">breaks copying limits on certain Japanese digital TV recording and playback devices</a>.  The software specifically overrides limits on a program called 'dubbing10,' which is used in devices sold by companies such as Sony, Sharp, and Panasonic.  It is believed that the man generated thousands of dollars worth of earnings for himself by selling to at least 712 people, including one teenager who then resold the software to another 240 people.  This is the first disclosed case in Japan of someone being arrested for selling such limit-removal software for digital TV recording.  Since it sounds like he has already admitted to selling it (although he denies creating it), and due to the generally high conviction rate of those arrested by Japanese police, his future does not look so bright at the moment."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>JoshuaInNippon writes " A Toshiba employee in western Japan has been arrested on charges of copyright violations for selling software online that breaks copying limits on certain Japanese digital TV recording and playback devices .
The software specifically overrides limits on a program called 'dubbing10, ' which is used in devices sold by companies such as Sony , Sharp , and Panasonic .
It is believed that the man generated thousands of dollars worth of earnings for himself by selling to at least 712 people , including one teenager who then resold the software to another 240 people .
This is the first disclosed case in Japan of someone being arrested for selling such limit-removal software for digital TV recording .
Since it sounds like he has already admitted to selling it ( although he denies creating it ) , and due to the generally high conviction rate of those arrested by Japanese police , his future does not look so bright at the moment .
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<sentencetext>JoshuaInNippon writes "A Toshiba employee in western Japan has been arrested on charges of copyright violations for selling software online that breaks copying limits on certain Japanese digital TV recording and playback devices.
The software specifically overrides limits on a program called 'dubbing10,' which is used in devices sold by companies such as Sony, Sharp, and Panasonic.
It is believed that the man generated thousands of dollars worth of earnings for himself by selling to at least 712 people, including one teenager who then resold the software to another 240 people.
This is the first disclosed case in Japan of someone being arrested for selling such limit-removal software for digital TV recording.
Since it sounds like he has already admitted to selling it (although he denies creating it), and due to the generally high conviction rate of those arrested by Japanese police, his future does not look so bright at the moment.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30245562</id>
	<title>Re:Argument</title>
	<author>delt0r</author>
	<datestamp>1259338260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I want to buy Transformers 2. Yea i liked it, and I am happy to pay for a DVD (dito 9, district 9 and star trek). I rented it the other day (rentals are 1EU a day here). It played out of order in all 3 computers *and* my DVD player. It was useless.
<br> <br>
So i have 3 options:<br>
1. Buy the disk and still not be able to watch. <br>
2. Not buy the disk, let economic incentives do its thing, and not watch.<br>
3. Not but the disk, let economic blar blar, And download it and watch. <br>
<br>
I have chosen 3, and its a royal pain in the ass. Finding decent quality online is a waste of time (most is compressed to 700MB and look like some kind of lego land). So i will only bother with movies I really want to see, or have seen in the cinema. Even more to the point, i will check to see what DRM they use. If they don't use more than CSS then i will buy the DVDs still. But I won't hold my breath.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I want to buy Transformers 2 .
Yea i liked it , and I am happy to pay for a DVD ( dito 9 , district 9 and star trek ) .
I rented it the other day ( rentals are 1EU a day here ) .
It played out of order in all 3 computers * and * my DVD player .
It was useless .
So i have 3 options : 1 .
Buy the disk and still not be able to watch .
2. Not buy the disk , let economic incentives do its thing , and not watch .
3. Not but the disk , let economic blar blar , And download it and watch .
I have chosen 3 , and its a royal pain in the ass .
Finding decent quality online is a waste of time ( most is compressed to 700MB and look like some kind of lego land ) .
So i will only bother with movies I really want to see , or have seen in the cinema .
Even more to the point , i will check to see what DRM they use .
If they do n't use more than CSS then i will buy the DVDs still .
But I wo n't hold my breath .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I want to buy Transformers 2.
Yea i liked it, and I am happy to pay for a DVD (dito 9, district 9 and star trek).
I rented it the other day (rentals are 1EU a day here).
It played out of order in all 3 computers *and* my DVD player.
It was useless.
So i have 3 options:
1.
Buy the disk and still not be able to watch.
2. Not buy the disk, let economic incentives do its thing, and not watch.
3. Not but the disk, let economic blar blar, And download it and watch.
I have chosen 3, and its a royal pain in the ass.
Finding decent quality online is a waste of time (most is compressed to 700MB and look like some kind of lego land).
So i will only bother with movies I really want to see, or have seen in the cinema.
Even more to the point, i will check to see what DRM they use.
If they don't use more than CSS then i will buy the DVDs still.
But I won't hold my breath.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30238202</id>
	<title>Argument</title>
	<author>headkase</author>
	<datestamp>1259260440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>If there was mutual trust between customers and copyright holders this situation wouldn't exist.  People are stealing because they know intuitively in their gut that they are being ripped off, see: <a href="http://www.thepublicdomain.org/" title="thepublicdomain.org">The Public Domain</a> [thepublicdomain.org].  And copyright holders are failing to meet the needs of their customers - nobody wants digital restrictions yet they insist to maximize that little thing called profit.  It will come back to bite them in the ass, it already has.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If there was mutual trust between customers and copyright holders this situation would n't exist .
People are stealing because they know intuitively in their gut that they are being ripped off , see : The Public Domain [ thepublicdomain.org ] .
And copyright holders are failing to meet the needs of their customers - nobody wants digital restrictions yet they insist to maximize that little thing called profit .
It will come back to bite them in the ass , it already has .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If there was mutual trust between customers and copyright holders this situation wouldn't exist.
People are stealing because they know intuitively in their gut that they are being ripped off, see: The Public Domain [thepublicdomain.org].
And copyright holders are failing to meet the needs of their customers - nobody wants digital restrictions yet they insist to maximize that little thing called profit.
It will come back to bite them in the ass, it already has.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30239872</id>
	<title>Re:Argument</title>
	<author>Sabriel</author>
	<datestamp>1259232000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wall-E on Blu-Ray for $18? Awesome! Oh, wait, Amazon's warning me about something:</p><blockquote><div><p>Please note: Your order contains at least one Region 1 (Canada and U.S.) encoded DVD. Region 1 DVDs might not play in DVD players sold in the country where this order is being shipped. Please also note that some Region 1 DVDs contain a Regional Coding Enhancement. Some of our international customers have had problems playing these enhanced discs on their &ldquo;region-free&rdquo; DVD players. Learn more about DVD region encoding and formats. To modify your order, edit the quantities below.</p></div></blockquote><p>Hmm. It also seems the DRM on the disc won't let me make a backup in case of the kids wrecking it either. What was that you were saying about Disney's confidence in its customers?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wall-E on Blu-Ray for $ 18 ?
Awesome ! Oh , wait , Amazon 's warning me about something : Please note : Your order contains at least one Region 1 ( Canada and U.S. ) encoded DVD .
Region 1 DVDs might not play in DVD players sold in the country where this order is being shipped .
Please also note that some Region 1 DVDs contain a Regional Coding Enhancement .
Some of our international customers have had problems playing these enhanced discs on their    region-free    DVD players .
Learn more about DVD region encoding and formats .
To modify your order , edit the quantities below.Hmm .
It also seems the DRM on the disc wo n't let me make a backup in case of the kids wrecking it either .
What was that you were saying about Disney 's confidence in its customers ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wall-E on Blu-Ray for $18?
Awesome! Oh, wait, Amazon's warning me about something:Please note: Your order contains at least one Region 1 (Canada and U.S.) encoded DVD.
Region 1 DVDs might not play in DVD players sold in the country where this order is being shipped.
Please also note that some Region 1 DVDs contain a Regional Coding Enhancement.
Some of our international customers have had problems playing these enhanced discs on their “region-free” DVD players.
Learn more about DVD region encoding and formats.
To modify your order, edit the quantities below.Hmm.
It also seems the DRM on the disc won't let me make a backup in case of the kids wrecking it either.
What was that you were saying about Disney's confidence in its customers?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30238706</id>
	<title>Re:Argument</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259264400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If there was mutual trust between customers and copyright holders this situation wouldn't exist.  People are stealing because they know intuitively in their gut that they are being ripped off, see: <a href="http://www.thepublicdomain.org/" title="thepublicdomain.org" rel="nofollow">The Public Domain</a> [thepublicdomain.org].  And copyright holders are failing to meet the needs of their customers - nobody wants digital restrictions yet they insist to maximize that little thing called profit.  It will come back to bite them in the ass, it already has.</p></div><p>That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. We know in our gut we're being ripped of? Have you ever run a company with thousands of employees? Do you know the requirements to run a company and the costs associated in keeping it afloat when you are producing a product or service. Heaven forbid that a company makes a profit right? Forget that public companies have an obligation to their shareholders. No we should sell music to jackasses like you for 10 cents. Guess what you would still refuse to buy it and you'd still download movies from your local usenet group because you're nothing but a thief.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If there was mutual trust between customers and copyright holders this situation would n't exist .
People are stealing because they know intuitively in their gut that they are being ripped off , see : The Public Domain [ thepublicdomain.org ] .
And copyright holders are failing to meet the needs of their customers - nobody wants digital restrictions yet they insist to maximize that little thing called profit .
It will come back to bite them in the ass , it already has.That 's the dumbest shit I 've ever heard .
We know in our gut we 're being ripped of ?
Have you ever run a company with thousands of employees ?
Do you know the requirements to run a company and the costs associated in keeping it afloat when you are producing a product or service .
Heaven forbid that a company makes a profit right ?
Forget that public companies have an obligation to their shareholders .
No we should sell music to jackasses like you for 10 cents .
Guess what you would still refuse to buy it and you 'd still download movies from your local usenet group because you 're nothing but a thief .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If there was mutual trust between customers and copyright holders this situation wouldn't exist.
People are stealing because they know intuitively in their gut that they are being ripped off, see: The Public Domain [thepublicdomain.org].
And copyright holders are failing to meet the needs of their customers - nobody wants digital restrictions yet they insist to maximize that little thing called profit.
It will come back to bite them in the ass, it already has.That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard.
We know in our gut we're being ripped of?
Have you ever run a company with thousands of employees?
Do you know the requirements to run a company and the costs associated in keeping it afloat when you are producing a product or service.
Heaven forbid that a company makes a profit right?
Forget that public companies have an obligation to their shareholders.
No we should sell music to jackasses like you for 10 cents.
Guess what you would still refuse to buy it and you'd still download movies from your local usenet group because you're nothing but a thief.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30238270</id>
	<title>I'm pretty surprised...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259260920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not that there would be a market for de-crippling software, or that the jackboots would come down hard on someone who attempted to satisfy that market; but at the numbers given in TFA.<br> <br>

It mentions one sale, on CDR, of software and directions, for the equivalent of ~8USD. A download sale(to somebody who then resold a large number of copies) for ~6USD. Stated number of sales, over the year, is "at least 714".<br> <br>

That sounds like pretty mediocre money for taking on any significant legal risk(especially since he has had a steady job with Toshiba for 15 years now, this isn't some 15 year old, or a guy dealing drugs because he has zero job skills). Has there historically been virtually zero risk, and this guy just drew the short straw and got to be the leading edge of some new crackdown? Is he just not that sharp?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not that there would be a market for de-crippling software , or that the jackboots would come down hard on someone who attempted to satisfy that market ; but at the numbers given in TFA .
It mentions one sale , on CDR , of software and directions , for the equivalent of ~ 8USD .
A download sale ( to somebody who then resold a large number of copies ) for ~ 6USD .
Stated number of sales , over the year , is " at least 714 " .
That sounds like pretty mediocre money for taking on any significant legal risk ( especially since he has had a steady job with Toshiba for 15 years now , this is n't some 15 year old , or a guy dealing drugs because he has zero job skills ) .
Has there historically been virtually zero risk , and this guy just drew the short straw and got to be the leading edge of some new crackdown ?
Is he just not that sharp ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not that there would be a market for de-crippling software, or that the jackboots would come down hard on someone who attempted to satisfy that market; but at the numbers given in TFA.
It mentions one sale, on CDR, of software and directions, for the equivalent of ~8USD.
A download sale(to somebody who then resold a large number of copies) for ~6USD.
Stated number of sales, over the year, is "at least 714".
That sounds like pretty mediocre money for taking on any significant legal risk(especially since he has had a steady job with Toshiba for 15 years now, this isn't some 15 year old, or a guy dealing drugs because he has zero job skills).
Has there historically been virtually zero risk, and this guy just drew the short straw and got to be the leading edge of some new crackdown?
Is he just not that sharp?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30242006</id>
	<title>Re:Japanese police</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259250360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>[citation needed] is a lot better than [citation from debito, Japan's national liar]</p><p>Try going to his site and pointing out how laws don't actually say what he says it does to his English-only white-trash audience.</p><p>I see no fault in gaijin feeling frustrated because they don't understand what's going on around them. Many white Americans(of the debito fan variety) will use the R-word as a throwing weapon in any situation, just because Japanese people are way up above them socially, a behaviour surely learnt from their Black counterparts they hate so much.</p><p>debito however is evil because he knows Japanese and what's happening but he keeps stirring the clueless Gaijin audience for more hate towards the Japanese people.</p><p>I am a Gaijin myself and Debito doesn't represent me in the least. He also doesn't represent the Japanese people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>[ citation needed ] is a lot better than [ citation from debito , Japan 's national liar ] Try going to his site and pointing out how laws do n't actually say what he says it does to his English-only white-trash audience.I see no fault in gaijin feeling frustrated because they do n't understand what 's going on around them .
Many white Americans ( of the debito fan variety ) will use the R-word as a throwing weapon in any situation , just because Japanese people are way up above them socially , a behaviour surely learnt from their Black counterparts they hate so much.debito however is evil because he knows Japanese and what 's happening but he keeps stirring the clueless Gaijin audience for more hate towards the Japanese people.I am a Gaijin myself and Debito does n't represent me in the least .
He also does n't represent the Japanese people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[citation needed] is a lot better than [citation from debito, Japan's national liar]Try going to his site and pointing out how laws don't actually say what he says it does to his English-only white-trash audience.I see no fault in gaijin feeling frustrated because they don't understand what's going on around them.
Many white Americans(of the debito fan variety) will use the R-word as a throwing weapon in any situation, just because Japanese people are way up above them socially, a behaviour surely learnt from their Black counterparts they hate so much.debito however is evil because he knows Japanese and what's happening but he keeps stirring the clueless Gaijin audience for more hate towards the Japanese people.I am a Gaijin myself and Debito doesn't represent me in the least.
He also doesn't represent the Japanese people.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30240388</id>
	<title>Re:Toshiba: guilt by association?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259236560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; That's how things work in Japan (and Asia in general) -- the company, relatives, etc. share some responsibility for an individual's actions simply by association.</p><p>True.  But in this case, it only makes me want to buy something made by Toshiba.  I don't really plan to buy any electronics right now, but if I do, I'll give Toshiba a little more credit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; That 's how things work in Japan ( and Asia in general ) -- the company , relatives , etc .
share some responsibility for an individual 's actions simply by association.True .
But in this case , it only makes me want to buy something made by Toshiba .
I do n't really plan to buy any electronics right now , but if I do , I 'll give Toshiba a little more credit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; That's how things work in Japan (and Asia in general) -- the company, relatives, etc.
share some responsibility for an individual's actions simply by association.True.
But in this case, it only makes me want to buy something made by Toshiba.
I don't really plan to buy any electronics right now, but if I do, I'll give Toshiba a little more credit.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30238350</id>
	<title>I think Japan participates in ACTA</title>
	<author>turtleshadow</author>
	<datestamp>1259261640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If Japan participates in ACTA and other international treaties then this could be a circumvention of encryption controls type of crime which would incur greater penalty than larceny or simple theft.</p><p>To the Law outside is there a difference of kind to manufacture lock picks vs to sell them vs being actually caught picking locks vs being searched and having one found on your person?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Japan participates in ACTA and other international treaties then this could be a circumvention of encryption controls type of crime which would incur greater penalty than larceny or simple theft.To the Law outside is there a difference of kind to manufacture lock picks vs to sell them vs being actually caught picking locks vs being searched and having one found on your person ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Japan participates in ACTA and other international treaties then this could be a circumvention of encryption controls type of crime which would incur greater penalty than larceny or simple theft.To the Law outside is there a difference of kind to manufacture lock picks vs to sell them vs being actually caught picking locks vs being searched and having one found on your person?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30242566</id>
	<title>Re:Japanese police</title>
	<author>LifesRoadie</author>
	<datestamp>1259256660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>except for the guy who was charged with spraying Sarin after Aum Shinrikyo's first practise run in southern Tokyo in 1995(?). He had his life ruined, then the cops just dropped him and went after the real perps. He sued them for an apology but got nothing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>except for the guy who was charged with spraying Sarin after Aum Shinrikyo 's first practise run in southern Tokyo in 1995 ( ? ) .
He had his life ruined , then the cops just dropped him and went after the real perps .
He sued them for an apology but got nothing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>except for the guy who was charged with spraying Sarin after Aum Shinrikyo's first practise run in southern Tokyo in 1995(?).
He had his life ruined, then the cops just dropped him and went after the real perps.
He sued them for an apology but got nothing.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30243556</id>
	<title>Re:Argument</title>
	<author>mpe</author>
	<datestamp>1259313180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>The two disk Blu-Ray release of a $180 million production like Wall-E costs $18 when purchased from Amazon.com.</i> <br> <br>The movie industry is rather notorious for creative accounting, so it's can be hard to work out what something cost or at what point it will have been "paid for". It also makes more sense to only consider the actual costs associated with the DVD. Which has a fixed cost of producing the master then a cost per copy.<br> <br> <i>All extras in 1080p.</i> <br> <br>Maybe they were on film or HD in the first place. Note also that "extras" only contribute to the DVD fixed costs if they were produced exclusivly for the DVD.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The two disk Blu-Ray release of a $ 180 million production like Wall-E costs $ 18 when purchased from Amazon.com .
The movie industry is rather notorious for creative accounting , so it 's can be hard to work out what something cost or at what point it will have been " paid for " .
It also makes more sense to only consider the actual costs associated with the DVD .
Which has a fixed cost of producing the master then a cost per copy .
All extras in 1080p .
Maybe they were on film or HD in the first place .
Note also that " extras " only contribute to the DVD fixed costs if they were produced exclusivly for the DVD .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The two disk Blu-Ray release of a $180 million production like Wall-E costs $18 when purchased from Amazon.com.
The movie industry is rather notorious for creative accounting, so it's can be hard to work out what something cost or at what point it will have been "paid for".
It also makes more sense to only consider the actual costs associated with the DVD.
Which has a fixed cost of producing the master then a cost per copy.
All extras in 1080p.
Maybe they were on film or HD in the first place.
Note also that "extras" only contribute to the DVD fixed costs if they were produced exclusivly for the DVD.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30241644</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm,Christmas sale, free shipping shoes,handbag</title>
	<author>coolforsale128</author>
	<datestamp>1259246640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.coolforsale.com/" title="coolforsale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coolforsale.com/</a> [coolforsale.com]  [coolforsale.com] Dear ladies and gentlemen Hello, In order to meet Christmas, Site launched Christmas spree, welcome new and old customers come to participate in the there are unexpected surprises, look forward to your arrival. Only this site have this treatmentOur goal is "Best quality, Best reputation , Best services". Your satisfaction is our main pursue. You can find the best products from us, meeting your different needs. Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products . Pass by but don't miss it.Select your favorite clothing! Welcome to come next time ! Thank you! <a href="http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76" title="coolforsale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76</a> [coolforsale.com]  (Tracksuit w) ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket, Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33 Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35 Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&amp;g) $35 Tshirts (Polo<nobr> <wbr></nobr>,ed hardy,lacoste) $16 free shipping Thanks!!! Advance wish you a merry Christmas.</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.coolforsale.com/ [ coolforsale.com ] [ coolforsale.com ] Dear ladies and gentlemen Hello , In order to meet Christmas , Site launched Christmas spree , welcome new and old customers come to participate in the there are unexpected surprises , look forward to your arrival .
Only this site have this treatmentOur goal is " Best quality , Best reputation , Best services " .
Your satisfaction is our main pursue .
You can find the best products from us , meeting your different needs .
Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products .
Pass by but do n't miss it.Select your favorite clothing !
Welcome to come next time !
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30238108</id>
	<title>lol</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259259480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First Post</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First Post</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First Post</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30239638</id>
	<title>Re:Japanese police</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259229840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Japanese police have such high conviction rates because,</p><p>
&nbsp; 1. they do not follow western style of interrogation.<br>http://www.debito.org/policeinterrogations.html<br>There is no Miranda laws, lawyers, etc.</p><p>
&nbsp; 2. In Japan, if police charges you with something, the society believes that you must have done something. The Japanese culture is closer to "prove your innocence" than "prove your guilt".</p><p>
&nbsp; 3. The Japanese police historically does not bring up charges for people that they don't have evidence for. This results #2.</p></div><p>What you've described is not much different from the US justice system. Yes there is a charade for #1 but police don't typically follow interrogation protocol bad instead try to bully or blackmail someone into a false confession. US culture is extremely biased towards "guilty until proven innocent". That's the way the courts work and that's the belief held by most people. The only difference is #3. In the US they charge whomever is easiest to convict. Lack of evidence is usually irrelevant due to #2 so they just do character assasination instead.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Japanese police have such high conviction rates because ,   1. they do not follow western style of interrogation.http : //www.debito.org/policeinterrogations.htmlThere is no Miranda laws , lawyers , etc .
  2 .
In Japan , if police charges you with something , the society believes that you must have done something .
The Japanese culture is closer to " prove your innocence " than " prove your guilt " .
  3 .
The Japanese police historically does not bring up charges for people that they do n't have evidence for .
This results # 2.What you 've described is not much different from the US justice system .
Yes there is a charade for # 1 but police do n't typically follow interrogation protocol bad instead try to bully or blackmail someone into a false confession .
US culture is extremely biased towards " guilty until proven innocent " .
That 's the way the courts work and that 's the belief held by most people .
The only difference is # 3 .
In the US they charge whomever is easiest to convict .
Lack of evidence is usually irrelevant due to # 2 so they just do character assasination instead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Japanese police have such high conviction rates because,
  1. they do not follow western style of interrogation.http://www.debito.org/policeinterrogations.htmlThere is no Miranda laws, lawyers, etc.
  2.
In Japan, if police charges you with something, the society believes that you must have done something.
The Japanese culture is closer to "prove your innocence" than "prove your guilt".
  3.
The Japanese police historically does not bring up charges for people that they don't have evidence for.
This results #2.What you've described is not much different from the US justice system.
Yes there is a charade for #1 but police don't typically follow interrogation protocol bad instead try to bully or blackmail someone into a false confession.
US culture is extremely biased towards "guilty until proven innocent".
That's the way the courts work and that's the belief held by most people.
The only difference is #3.
In the US they charge whomever is easiest to convict.
Lack of evidence is usually irrelevant due to #2 so they just do character assasination instead.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30239860</id>
	<title>Re:Argument</title>
	<author>headkase</author>
	<datestamp>1259231880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>And Black heroine?  1925?  That should be public domain.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And Black heroine ?
1925 ? That should be public domain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And Black heroine?
1925?  That should be public domain.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30238782</id>
	<title>Toshiba: guilt by association?</title>
	<author>InakaBoyJoe</author>
	<datestamp>1259265000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Notice how the article reports that the suspect is a "Toshiba employee" even though his activities have nothing to do with Toshiba (as far as we know).  That's how things work in Japan (and Asia in general) -- the company, relatives, etc. share some responsibility for an individual's actions simply by association.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Notice how the article reports that the suspect is a " Toshiba employee " even though his activities have nothing to do with Toshiba ( as far as we know ) .
That 's how things work in Japan ( and Asia in general ) -- the company , relatives , etc .
share some responsibility for an individual 's actions simply by association .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Notice how the article reports that the suspect is a "Toshiba employee" even though his activities have nothing to do with Toshiba (as far as we know).
That's how things work in Japan (and Asia in general) -- the company, relatives, etc.
share some responsibility for an individual's actions simply by association.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30243894</id>
	<title>Nippon police</title>
	<author>Krakadoom</author>
	<datestamp>1259317680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"due to the generally high conviction rate of those arrested by Japanese police" <br> <br>

I wonder if high conviction rates are a result of superior investigation techniques, whereby arrests are only made when the case evidence is already relatively overwhelming - or if it means that once you enter the interrogation room, you only come out once you plead guilty.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" due to the generally high conviction rate of those arrested by Japanese police " I wonder if high conviction rates are a result of superior investigation techniques , whereby arrests are only made when the case evidence is already relatively overwhelming - or if it means that once you enter the interrogation room , you only come out once you plead guilty .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"due to the generally high conviction rate of those arrested by Japanese police"  

I wonder if high conviction rates are a result of superior investigation techniques, whereby arrests are only made when the case evidence is already relatively overwhelming - or if it means that once you enter the interrogation room, you only come out once you plead guilty.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30240436</id>
	<title>Re:Argument</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259237040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Heaven forbid that a company makes a profit right?</p></div><p>Profit is the money that is taken from the consumer in excess of the product's cost to produce (which includes the compensation for the human's time invested).  So yes. If a non-human entity (company,corporation) makes profit, the consumer is being ripped off.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Heaven forbid that a company makes a profit right ? Profit is the money that is taken from the consumer in excess of the product 's cost to produce ( which includes the compensation for the human 's time invested ) .
So yes .
If a non-human entity ( company,corporation ) makes profit , the consumer is being ripped off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Heaven forbid that a company makes a profit right?Profit is the money that is taken from the consumer in excess of the product's cost to produce (which includes the compensation for the human's time invested).
So yes.
If a non-human entity (company,corporation) makes profit, the consumer is being ripped off.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30238372</id>
	<title>Re:I'm pretty surprised...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259261820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>A download sale(to somebody who then resold a large number of copies) for ~6USD.</p></div><p>More surprisingly, no mention of people pirating the download.  That would be some sort of irony.</p><p>Though, I have to say, restrictions on private copies is a whole lot of bull.  iTunes gives you five computers, and if you forget to de-authorize a computer before reformatting (can't because of a crash) then you quickly hit that limit on your own personal computers and get stuck with the once a year de-authorize all computers.  And now with HDCP you get even more hoops when trying to store media onto a format that the creators don't approve of (your hard drive).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A download sale ( to somebody who then resold a large number of copies ) for ~ 6USD.More surprisingly , no mention of people pirating the download .
That would be some sort of irony.Though , I have to say , restrictions on private copies is a whole lot of bull .
iTunes gives you five computers , and if you forget to de-authorize a computer before reformatting ( ca n't because of a crash ) then you quickly hit that limit on your own personal computers and get stuck with the once a year de-authorize all computers .
And now with HDCP you get even more hoops when trying to store media onto a format that the creators do n't approve of ( your hard drive ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A download sale(to somebody who then resold a large number of copies) for ~6USD.More surprisingly, no mention of people pirating the download.
That would be some sort of irony.Though, I have to say, restrictions on private copies is a whole lot of bull.
iTunes gives you five computers, and if you forget to de-authorize a computer before reformatting (can't because of a crash) then you quickly hit that limit on your own personal computers and get stuck with the once a year de-authorize all computers.
And now with HDCP you get even more hoops when trying to store media onto a format that the creators don't approve of (your hard drive).
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30238684</id>
	<title>Re:Argument</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1259264280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>People are stealing because they know intuitively in their gut that they are being ripped off.</i> </p><p>The two disk Blu-Ray release of a $180 million production like Wall-E costs $18 when purchased from Amazon.com. All extras in 1080p.</p><p>Wall-E in standard definition is an instant download for your Netflix subscriber.</p><p>Disney returns to lush 2D animation and the animated musical feature with <i>The Princess and the Frog.</i> </p><p>Black heroine. New Orleans jazz ca. 1925.</p><p>Tell me what other studio would have the confidence and resources to take such a risk.</p><p>Who is being ripped off?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People are stealing because they know intuitively in their gut that they are being ripped off .
The two disk Blu-Ray release of a $ 180 million production like Wall-E costs $ 18 when purchased from Amazon.com .
All extras in 1080p.Wall-E in standard definition is an instant download for your Netflix subscriber.Disney returns to lush 2D animation and the animated musical feature with The Princess and the Frog .
Black heroine .
New Orleans jazz ca .
1925.Tell me what other studio would have the confidence and resources to take such a risk.Who is being ripped off ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People are stealing because they know intuitively in their gut that they are being ripped off.
The two disk Blu-Ray release of a $180 million production like Wall-E costs $18 when purchased from Amazon.com.
All extras in 1080p.Wall-E in standard definition is an instant download for your Netflix subscriber.Disney returns to lush 2D animation and the animated musical feature with The Princess and the Frog.
Black heroine.
New Orleans jazz ca.
1925.Tell me what other studio would have the confidence and resources to take such a risk.Who is being ripped off?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30241512</id>
	<title>Re:Japanese police</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259245500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Also, the police and judges' jobs are to convict people.  Judges that don't convict are seen to be working against the police - against the 'group/team', and are not promoted.  Everyone works together to convict, because anyone that goes free is solid evidence the police did something wrong/got the wrong guy.  Make the police lose face also = non team player.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Also , the police and judges ' jobs are to convict people .
Judges that do n't convict are seen to be working against the police - against the 'group/team ' , and are not promoted .
Everyone works together to convict , because anyone that goes free is solid evidence the police did something wrong/got the wrong guy .
Make the police lose face also = non team player .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also, the police and judges' jobs are to convict people.
Judges that don't convict are seen to be working against the police - against the 'group/team', and are not promoted.
Everyone works together to convict, because anyone that goes free is solid evidence the police did something wrong/got the wrong guy.
Make the police lose face also = non team player.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30241216</id>
	<title>Re:Argument</title>
	<author>Jah-Wren Ryel</author>
	<datestamp>1259242740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Progress is being made, with the rapid death of DRM on music distributed via iTunes and Amazon.</p></div><p>Don't make the mistake of thinking that DRM was dropped because customers wanted it to be dropped.  If ipods ever lose their market dominance, watch for DRM on music to make a comeback.  The only reason DRM on music went away was because Apple held a monopoly on music DRM due to their ~90\% marketshare for music players and used their control over DRM as powerful leverage in negotiations.  The RIAA abhors a monopoly that's not under their control, and the only way to break Apple's monopoly was to drop DRM.</p><p>There is no such monopoly on DRM for video which is why you still see all the movies and videos on itunes and all other download services continue to be locked up tight, and its going to stay that way indefinitely.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Progress is being made , with the rapid death of DRM on music distributed via iTunes and Amazon.Do n't make the mistake of thinking that DRM was dropped because customers wanted it to be dropped .
If ipods ever lose their market dominance , watch for DRM on music to make a comeback .
The only reason DRM on music went away was because Apple held a monopoly on music DRM due to their ~ 90 \ % marketshare for music players and used their control over DRM as powerful leverage in negotiations .
The RIAA abhors a monopoly that 's not under their control , and the only way to break Apple 's monopoly was to drop DRM.There is no such monopoly on DRM for video which is why you still see all the movies and videos on itunes and all other download services continue to be locked up tight , and its going to stay that way indefinitely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Progress is being made, with the rapid death of DRM on music distributed via iTunes and Amazon.Don't make the mistake of thinking that DRM was dropped because customers wanted it to be dropped.
If ipods ever lose their market dominance, watch for DRM on music to make a comeback.
The only reason DRM on music went away was because Apple held a monopoly on music DRM due to their ~90\% marketshare for music players and used their control over DRM as powerful leverage in negotiations.
The RIAA abhors a monopoly that's not under their control, and the only way to break Apple's monopoly was to drop DRM.There is no such monopoly on DRM for video which is why you still see all the movies and videos on itunes and all other download services continue to be locked up tight, and its going to stay that way indefinitely.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30246112</id>
	<title>Re:Argument</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1259341440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Region 1 DVDs might not play in DVD players sold in the country where this order is being shipped.</i> </p><p>There are only three Blu-Ray regions. The B/2 disk is available for &pound;18 in the U.K. <a href="http://www.moviemail-online.co.uk/film/56354/WALL-E/?utm\_source=fr1" title="moviemail-online.co.uk">WALL-E (Blu-ray)</a> [moviemail-online.co.uk] </p><p><i>Hmm. It also seems the DRM on the disc won't let me make a backup in case of the kids wrecking it either. What was that you were saying about Disney's confidence in its customers?</i> </p><p>Disney's trust in its customers begins and ends at the same point as everyone else in this business: where the geek gets his opportunity to upload the file.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Region 1 DVDs might not play in DVD players sold in the country where this order is being shipped .
There are only three Blu-Ray regions .
The B/2 disk is available for   18 in the U.K. WALL-E ( Blu-ray ) [ moviemail-online.co.uk ] Hmm .
It also seems the DRM on the disc wo n't let me make a backup in case of the kids wrecking it either .
What was that you were saying about Disney 's confidence in its customers ?
Disney 's trust in its customers begins and ends at the same point as everyone else in this business : where the geek gets his opportunity to upload the file .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Region 1 DVDs might not play in DVD players sold in the country where this order is being shipped.
There are only three Blu-Ray regions.
The B/2 disk is available for £18 in the U.K. WALL-E (Blu-ray) [moviemail-online.co.uk] Hmm.
It also seems the DRM on the disc won't let me make a backup in case of the kids wrecking it either.
What was that you were saying about Disney's confidence in its customers?
Disney's trust in its customers begins and ends at the same point as everyone else in this business: where the geek gets his opportunity to upload the file.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30239954</id>
	<title>Well</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259232900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not all bad.  At least according to wiki, Japan has one of the lowest incarceration rates of the civilized world.  The conviction rate may be high, but the sentencing is extremely lenient and the total number of convictions is low.</p><p>Commit a murder in Japan?  Out in 10-15 years.  Rape?  2-5 years.  Etc.  That's ridiculously lower than typical sentences in the U.S. for the same crime.  Also, "acquaintance rape" is almost never prosecuted because a prosecutor won't bring a case forward unless they are certain of a conviction. (versus in the U.S., where people are imprisoned for decades based solely on the uncorroborated word of the victim)  In the U.S., prosecutors fail to get a conviction about 30-40\% of the time in trials, and a vastly higher percentage of the population is prosecuted.</p><p>Whether you're a criminal or not, it sounds like you have a higher chance of keeping your freedom in Japan.  On the other hand, their society is far less tolerant of any sort of behavior that isn't the norm.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not all bad .
At least according to wiki , Japan has one of the lowest incarceration rates of the civilized world .
The conviction rate may be high , but the sentencing is extremely lenient and the total number of convictions is low.Commit a murder in Japan ?
Out in 10-15 years .
Rape ? 2-5 years .
Etc. That 's ridiculously lower than typical sentences in the U.S. for the same crime .
Also , " acquaintance rape " is almost never prosecuted because a prosecutor wo n't bring a case forward unless they are certain of a conviction .
( versus in the U.S. , where people are imprisoned for decades based solely on the uncorroborated word of the victim ) In the U.S. , prosecutors fail to get a conviction about 30-40 \ % of the time in trials , and a vastly higher percentage of the population is prosecuted.Whether you 're a criminal or not , it sounds like you have a higher chance of keeping your freedom in Japan .
On the other hand , their society is far less tolerant of any sort of behavior that is n't the norm .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not all bad.
At least according to wiki, Japan has one of the lowest incarceration rates of the civilized world.
The conviction rate may be high, but the sentencing is extremely lenient and the total number of convictions is low.Commit a murder in Japan?
Out in 10-15 years.
Rape?  2-5 years.
Etc.  That's ridiculously lower than typical sentences in the U.S. for the same crime.
Also, "acquaintance rape" is almost never prosecuted because a prosecutor won't bring a case forward unless they are certain of a conviction.
(versus in the U.S., where people are imprisoned for decades based solely on the uncorroborated word of the victim)  In the U.S., prosecutors fail to get a conviction about 30-40\% of the time in trials, and a vastly higher percentage of the population is prosecuted.Whether you're a criminal or not, it sounds like you have a higher chance of keeping your freedom in Japan.
On the other hand, their society is far less tolerant of any sort of behavior that isn't the norm.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30242890</id>
	<title>Re:Argument</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259260620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"People are stealing because they know intuitively in their gut that they are being ripped off"</p><p>Why don't you go and lay that bullshit on someone who really admires you like the 10 year old next door that showed you how to use Napster. Please give me a break. I forgot the music and movie industry are in the business of making money. That includes artists. If I sell you a song or movie for 99 cents you'd still steal it because you are one of a many thankless and useless people brought up to expect that anything available on the net should be free.</p><p>iTunes is there for 99 cents and people still download music? Feel ripped off by iTunes as well? Let me know how your movie downloads on USETNET are going tonight.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" People are stealing because they know intuitively in their gut that they are being ripped off " Why do n't you go and lay that bullshit on someone who really admires you like the 10 year old next door that showed you how to use Napster .
Please give me a break .
I forgot the music and movie industry are in the business of making money .
That includes artists .
If I sell you a song or movie for 99 cents you 'd still steal it because you are one of a many thankless and useless people brought up to expect that anything available on the net should be free.iTunes is there for 99 cents and people still download music ?
Feel ripped off by iTunes as well ?
Let me know how your movie downloads on USETNET are going tonight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"People are stealing because they know intuitively in their gut that they are being ripped off"Why don't you go and lay that bullshit on someone who really admires you like the 10 year old next door that showed you how to use Napster.
Please give me a break.
I forgot the music and movie industry are in the business of making money.
That includes artists.
If I sell you a song or movie for 99 cents you'd still steal it because you are one of a many thankless and useless people brought up to expect that anything available on the net should be free.iTunes is there for 99 cents and people still download music?
Feel ripped off by iTunes as well?
Let me know how your movie downloads on USETNET are going tonight.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30238918</id>
	<title>par for course</title>
	<author>fermion</author>
	<datestamp>1259266140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Reminds me the first episode of Leverage this season.  People who rob us blind, like the senator from alaska and bank executives and middle management, get of nearly scott free, while this guy, who made "thousands of dollars" is going to probably be nailed to the wall.  It is like spending billions fighting street drug dealers, while letting the <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/28/AR2006042801692.html" title="washingtonpost.com">high level drug users off the hook</a> [washingtonpost.com].</htmltext>
<tokenext>Reminds me the first episode of Leverage this season .
People who rob us blind , like the senator from alaska and bank executives and middle management , get of nearly scott free , while this guy , who made " thousands of dollars " is going to probably be nailed to the wall .
It is like spending billions fighting street drug dealers , while letting the high level drug users off the hook [ washingtonpost.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reminds me the first episode of Leverage this season.
People who rob us blind, like the senator from alaska and bank executives and middle management, get of nearly scott free, while this guy, who made "thousands of dollars" is going to probably be nailed to the wall.
It is like spending billions fighting street drug dealers, while letting the high level drug users off the hook [washingtonpost.com].</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30244596</id>
	<title>Copyright holders should be the ones to make money</title>
	<author>mykos</author>
	<datestamp>1259328060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm totally against prosecuting people who share information at no profit, but people like this have no leg to stand on.  If anyone should make money, it should be the holders of those copyrights.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm totally against prosecuting people who share information at no profit , but people like this have no leg to stand on .
If anyone should make money , it should be the holders of those copyrights .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm totally against prosecuting people who share information at no profit, but people like this have no leg to stand on.
If anyone should make money, it should be the holders of those copyrights.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30243552</id>
	<title>Re:Argument</title>
	<author>ultranova</author>
	<datestamp>1259313180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The p2p audience seems to consist of pack-rats and freeloaders, with a tiny subset of people who take a moral (and sometimes hypocritical) stand.</p></div> </blockquote><p>The very fact that there <em>is</em> content available through P2P proves you wrong: someone went to the trouble of ripping, disinfecting, and uploading the game/movie/music in question. P2P couldn't exist if only a "tiny subset" contributed their personal resources; they would very soon run out and the system would collapse.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The p2p audience seems to consist of pack-rats and freeloaders , with a tiny subset of people who take a moral ( and sometimes hypocritical ) stand .
The very fact that there is content available through P2P proves you wrong : someone went to the trouble of ripping , disinfecting , and uploading the game/movie/music in question .
P2P could n't exist if only a " tiny subset " contributed their personal resources ; they would very soon run out and the system would collapse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The p2p audience seems to consist of pack-rats and freeloaders, with a tiny subset of people who take a moral (and sometimes hypocritical) stand.
The very fact that there is content available through P2P proves you wrong: someone went to the trouble of ripping, disinfecting, and uploading the game/movie/music in question.
P2P couldn't exist if only a "tiny subset" contributed their personal resources; they would very soon run out and the system would collapse.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30246950</id>
	<title>Why, pray tell -</title>
	<author>Geminii</author>
	<datestamp>1259347260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>- is <i>improving</i> a product able to even be classed as a crime in and of itself in any reasonable society?
</p><p>
Altering a product which results in an illegal item (assembling bombs etc), OK. That's a separate area of law entirely. But producing an end product or system which can merely do more of something which is <i>already allowed</i>? Where there is no law against making an eleventh copy other than that the manufacturer would pretty-please like people not to? THAT'S how they're going to try and stay profitable?
</p><p>
Is manufacturing crowbars, axes, or knives going to become illegal because they can <i>possibly</i> be used for illegal acts? How about hammers, screwdrivers or rolls of duct tape? They let people repair stuff themselves instead of paying for a new one or an expensive repair service - BAN THEM!
</p><p>
What I'm interested in is where the physical lock industry is going to end up heading. How long has the design of better SOHO-scale locks languished because manual and automatic lockpicks have varying degrees of illegality? Why are the vast majority of modern house and car door locks able to be opened with devices which have been around for decades, if not centuries? It's known that security through obscurity is not a good philosophy, so why is so much physical access based on it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>- is improving a product able to even be classed as a crime in and of itself in any reasonable society ?
Altering a product which results in an illegal item ( assembling bombs etc ) , OK. That 's a separate area of law entirely .
But producing an end product or system which can merely do more of something which is already allowed ?
Where there is no law against making an eleventh copy other than that the manufacturer would pretty-please like people not to ?
THAT 'S how they 're going to try and stay profitable ?
Is manufacturing crowbars , axes , or knives going to become illegal because they can possibly be used for illegal acts ?
How about hammers , screwdrivers or rolls of duct tape ?
They let people repair stuff themselves instead of paying for a new one or an expensive repair service - BAN THEM !
What I 'm interested in is where the physical lock industry is going to end up heading .
How long has the design of better SOHO-scale locks languished because manual and automatic lockpicks have varying degrees of illegality ?
Why are the vast majority of modern house and car door locks able to be opened with devices which have been around for decades , if not centuries ?
It 's known that security through obscurity is not a good philosophy , so why is so much physical access based on it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>- is improving a product able to even be classed as a crime in and of itself in any reasonable society?
Altering a product which results in an illegal item (assembling bombs etc), OK. That's a separate area of law entirely.
But producing an end product or system which can merely do more of something which is already allowed?
Where there is no law against making an eleventh copy other than that the manufacturer would pretty-please like people not to?
THAT'S how they're going to try and stay profitable?
Is manufacturing crowbars, axes, or knives going to become illegal because they can possibly be used for illegal acts?
How about hammers, screwdrivers or rolls of duct tape?
They let people repair stuff themselves instead of paying for a new one or an expensive repair service - BAN THEM!
What I'm interested in is where the physical lock industry is going to end up heading.
How long has the design of better SOHO-scale locks languished because manual and automatic lockpicks have varying degrees of illegality?
Why are the vast majority of modern house and car door locks able to be opened with devices which have been around for decades, if not centuries?
It's known that security through obscurity is not a good philosophy, so why is so much physical access based on it?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30240270</id>
	<title>Re:Toshiba: guilt by association?</title>
	<author>eealex</author>
	<datestamp>1259235660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I totally agree with what you are saying. When students are caught taking drug, the president of the university has to come and apologize in front of the press; when a guy committed in mass killing, his parents has to deal with this also.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I totally agree with what you are saying .
When students are caught taking drug , the president of the university has to come and apologize in front of the press ; when a guy committed in mass killing , his parents has to deal with this also .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I totally agree with what you are saying.
When students are caught taking drug, the president of the university has to come and apologize in front of the press; when a guy committed in mass killing, his parents has to deal with this also.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30238582</id>
	<title>Convicted of selling the stuff?</title>
	<author>RudeIota</author>
	<datestamp>1259263500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <b>TFA:</b> "Masumura is accused in two specific instances, one where he sold a CD-R to a man for 850 yen (~$8USD) and another where he sold a download to a teenager for 650 yen (~$6USD)"</p></div><p>I know it is disastrous trying to extrapolate meaningful conclusions from the details of this Examiner article -- but the wording of the article leads me to believe he's being arrested for <em>selling</em> the software.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>TFA : " Masumura is accused in two specific instances , one where he sold a CD-R to a man for 850 yen ( ~ $ 8USD ) and another where he sold a download to a teenager for 650 yen ( ~ $ 6USD ) " I know it is disastrous trying to extrapolate meaningful conclusions from the details of this Examiner article -- but the wording of the article leads me to believe he 's being arrested for selling the software .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> TFA: "Masumura is accused in two specific instances, one where he sold a CD-R to a man for 850 yen (~$8USD) and another where he sold a download to a teenager for 650 yen (~$6USD)"I know it is disastrous trying to extrapolate meaningful conclusions from the details of this Examiner article -- but the wording of the article leads me to believe he's being arrested for selling the software.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30240042</id>
	<title>Re:Argument</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1259233560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Did you just seriously use that artist extortion and media reproduction industry FUD of calling it &ldquo;stealing&rdquo;??</p><p>Please go and heal the brainwashing!</p><p>It is a service. NOT a product. (Never was. Never will be.)<br>It is digital(ly transferred). It is NOT a real object.<br>It is a copy. Stealing is when the owner does not have it anymore!<br>There is no such thing as <em>moving</em> with digital data. There is only <em>copying</em> (and then perhaps deleting)!<br>GOT IT?<br>How can you, as someone who posts on a website for computer experts, not understand this??</p><p>If it were my country, you would go to jail for this!<br>But for now, please turn in your geek card right now!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did you just seriously use that artist extortion and media reproduction industry FUD of calling it    stealing    ?
? Please go and heal the brainwashing ! It is a service .
NOT a product .
( Never was .
Never will be .
) It is digital ( ly transferred ) .
It is NOT a real object.It is a copy .
Stealing is when the owner does not have it anymore ! There is no such thing as moving with digital data .
There is only copying ( and then perhaps deleting ) ! GOT IT ? How can you , as someone who posts on a website for computer experts , not understand this ?
? If it were my country , you would go to jail for this ! But for now , please turn in your geek card right now !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did you just seriously use that artist extortion and media reproduction industry FUD of calling it “stealing”?
?Please go and heal the brainwashing!It is a service.
NOT a product.
(Never was.
Never will be.
)It is digital(ly transferred).
It is NOT a real object.It is a copy.
Stealing is when the owner does not have it anymore!There is no such thing as moving with digital data.
There is only copying (and then perhaps deleting)!GOT IT?How can you, as someone who posts on a website for computer experts, not understand this?
?If it were my country, you would go to jail for this!But for now, please turn in your geek card right now!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30241062</id>
	<title>Re:Argument</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1259241540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If I got a copy of this software my gut instinct would be to break it. I'm just not comfortable with software on my own hard drive working against me, so I would disable it even if I never plan to violate its restrictions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If I got a copy of this software my gut instinct would be to break it .
I 'm just not comfortable with software on my own hard drive working against me , so I would disable it even if I never plan to violate its restrictions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I got a copy of this software my gut instinct would be to break it.
I'm just not comfortable with software on my own hard drive working against me, so I would disable it even if I never plan to violate its restrictions.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30238938</id>
	<title>Re:Argument</title>
	<author>Microlith</author>
	<datestamp>1259266380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>People are stealing because they know intuitively in their gut that they are being ripped off</p></div></blockquote><p>They -think- they are being ripped off, but they would do so even if the prices were truly reasonable. The p2p audience seems to consist of pack-rats and freeloaders, with a tiny subset of people who take a moral (and sometimes hypocritical) stand.</p><blockquote><div><p>copyright holders are failing to meet the needs of their customers - nobody wants digital restrictions</p></div></blockquote><p>No argument there, but making a case against it is hard. Progress is being made, with the rapid death of DRM on music distributed via iTunes and Amazon.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>People are stealing because they know intuitively in their gut that they are being ripped offThey -think- they are being ripped off , but they would do so even if the prices were truly reasonable .
The p2p audience seems to consist of pack-rats and freeloaders , with a tiny subset of people who take a moral ( and sometimes hypocritical ) stand.copyright holders are failing to meet the needs of their customers - nobody wants digital restrictionsNo argument there , but making a case against it is hard .
Progress is being made , with the rapid death of DRM on music distributed via iTunes and Amazon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People are stealing because they know intuitively in their gut that they are being ripped offThey -think- they are being ripped off, but they would do so even if the prices were truly reasonable.
The p2p audience seems to consist of pack-rats and freeloaders, with a tiny subset of people who take a moral (and sometimes hypocritical) stand.copyright holders are failing to meet the needs of their customers - nobody wants digital restrictionsNo argument there, but making a case against it is hard.
Progress is being made, with the rapid death of DRM on music distributed via iTunes and Amazon.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30238274</id>
	<title>Japanese police</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259261040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Japanese police have such high conviction rates because,</p><p>
&nbsp; 1. they do not follow western style of interrogation.<br>http://www.debito.org/policeinterrogations.html<br>There is no Miranda laws, lawyers, etc.</p><p>
&nbsp; 2. In Japan, if police charges you with something, the society believes that you must have done something. The Japanese culture is closer to "prove your innocence" than "prove your guilt".</p><p>
&nbsp; 3. The Japanese police historically does not bring up charges for people that they don't have evidence for. This results #2.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Japanese police have such high conviction rates because ,   1. they do not follow western style of interrogation.http : //www.debito.org/policeinterrogations.htmlThere is no Miranda laws , lawyers , etc .
  2 .
In Japan , if police charges you with something , the society believes that you must have done something .
The Japanese culture is closer to " prove your innocence " than " prove your guilt " .
  3 .
The Japanese police historically does not bring up charges for people that they do n't have evidence for .
This results # 2 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Japanese police have such high conviction rates because,
  1. they do not follow western style of interrogation.http://www.debito.org/policeinterrogations.htmlThere is no Miranda laws, lawyers, etc.
  2.
In Japan, if police charges you with something, the society believes that you must have done something.
The Japanese culture is closer to "prove your innocence" than "prove your guilt".
  3.
The Japanese police historically does not bring up charges for people that they don't have evidence for.
This results #2.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30238160</id>
	<title>Copy this!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259260080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq9BDjMDRRk" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">Bitches!</a> [youtube.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bitches !
[ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bitches!
[youtube.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30238250</id>
	<title>What crime has he committed?</title>
	<author>pla</author>
	<datestamp>1259260800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>IANAL, and certainly not a Japanese one, but I have to wonder what they would actually <i>charge</i> him with.<br>
<br>
Arguably, since he denies writing the program, he violated the real author's copyright (though I would think that
only the actual author could pursue legal action in that case).<br>
<br>
Other than that... The closest US analogy I can think of would involve some variety of "theft of service" (or facilitating the same),
somewhat like selling software to uncap your cable modem.  But that doesn't really seem to fit, since the
software only limits the end user's use of what they already have, not their use of content provided by the
OEM companies.  I can't even see it as facilitating copyright violation, unless Japanese law explicitly has a fair-use idea
of "You can do this ten times before it counts"... Otherwise, what makes ten views okay but eleven a violation?<br>
<br>
As the parent poster mentions, however, I don't really suppose any of this matters.  Off to the gallows with this
scofflaw!  Hmm, does "interfering with corporate profitability" count as a capital punishment yet?</htmltext>
<tokenext>IANAL , and certainly not a Japanese one , but I have to wonder what they would actually charge him with .
Arguably , since he denies writing the program , he violated the real author 's copyright ( though I would think that only the actual author could pursue legal action in that case ) .
Other than that... The closest US analogy I can think of would involve some variety of " theft of service " ( or facilitating the same ) , somewhat like selling software to uncap your cable modem .
But that does n't really seem to fit , since the software only limits the end user 's use of what they already have , not their use of content provided by the OEM companies .
I ca n't even see it as facilitating copyright violation , unless Japanese law explicitly has a fair-use idea of " You can do this ten times before it counts " ... Otherwise , what makes ten views okay but eleven a violation ?
As the parent poster mentions , however , I do n't really suppose any of this matters .
Off to the gallows with this scofflaw !
Hmm , does " interfering with corporate profitability " count as a capital punishment yet ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IANAL, and certainly not a Japanese one, but I have to wonder what they would actually charge him with.
Arguably, since he denies writing the program, he violated the real author's copyright (though I would think that
only the actual author could pursue legal action in that case).
Other than that... The closest US analogy I can think of would involve some variety of "theft of service" (or facilitating the same),
somewhat like selling software to uncap your cable modem.
But that doesn't really seem to fit, since the
software only limits the end user's use of what they already have, not their use of content provided by the
OEM companies.
I can't even see it as facilitating copyright violation, unless Japanese law explicitly has a fair-use idea
of "You can do this ten times before it counts"... Otherwise, what makes ten views okay but eleven a violation?
As the parent poster mentions, however, I don't really suppose any of this matters.
Off to the gallows with this
scofflaw!
Hmm, does "interfering with corporate profitability" count as a capital punishment yet?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30240346</id>
	<title>Re:I'm pretty surprised...</title>
	<author>owlstead</author>
	<datestamp>1259236260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It could just be that it is more of an ideological thing. Not everything everybody does is just for their own good. He might be outraged by all these copyright protections.</p><p>And it's an easy thing to earn a bit of money with as well. Just putting it on the web for free download might not be such a grand move either (unless you want to be listed everywhere and stop all uploads from your computer.)</p><p>And yes, I don't think the risk is that great unless you try to be big, or if you're easily picked up by automated searches.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It could just be that it is more of an ideological thing .
Not everything everybody does is just for their own good .
He might be outraged by all these copyright protections.And it 's an easy thing to earn a bit of money with as well .
Just putting it on the web for free download might not be such a grand move either ( unless you want to be listed everywhere and stop all uploads from your computer .
) And yes , I do n't think the risk is that great unless you try to be big , or if you 're easily picked up by automated searches .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It could just be that it is more of an ideological thing.
Not everything everybody does is just for their own good.
He might be outraged by all these copyright protections.And it's an easy thing to earn a bit of money with as well.
Just putting it on the web for free download might not be such a grand move either (unless you want to be listed everywhere and stop all uploads from your computer.
)And yes, I don't think the risk is that great unless you try to be big, or if you're easily picked up by automated searches.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30238086</id>
	<title>Hmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259259360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder how the police <i>cracked</i> this case.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder how the police cracked this case .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder how the police cracked this case.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30238344</id>
	<title>Re:What crime has he committed?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259261580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The closest US analogy I can think of would involve some variety of "theft of service"</p></div><p>
What about DMCA - which is where most copy-protection-removal schemes fall.
<br> <br>
It's a pity the guy was concerned with profit, and didn't just post the method for breaking the copy limit on some eastern European web server. Then he'd be (a) famous and admired, and (b) a free man.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The closest US analogy I can think of would involve some variety of " theft of service " What about DMCA - which is where most copy-protection-removal schemes fall .
It 's a pity the guy was concerned with profit , and did n't just post the method for breaking the copy limit on some eastern European web server .
Then he 'd be ( a ) famous and admired , and ( b ) a free man .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The closest US analogy I can think of would involve some variety of "theft of service"
What about DMCA - which is where most copy-protection-removal schemes fall.
It's a pity the guy was concerned with profit, and didn't just post the method for breaking the copy limit on some eastern European web server.
Then he'd be (a) famous and admired, and (b) a free man.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_26_1654244.30241098</id>
	<title>Re:Japanese police</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259241780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would've taken you more seriously if you hadn't linked to debito.org.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would 've taken you more seriously if you had n't linked to debito.org .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would've taken you more seriously if you hadn't linked to debito.org.</sentencetext>
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