<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_25_2233224</id>
	<title>Google's Reach Hits Your Tivo</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1259147040000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>accido writes <i>"As reported by <em>The LA Times</em>, Google has now decided to expand its marketing and data collection <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2009/11/google-teams-up-with-tivo-to-give-advertisers-a-clearer-picture.html">to include what you watch on your Tivo</a>. The data collected would help Google, who sells TV ads, show who watches which commercials and who skips right over them. The article outlines how this could be bad for networks that cash in whether you watch the ad or not.  Does this mean fewer commercials for viewers? Not likely, but one can hope."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>accido writes " As reported by The LA Times , Google has now decided to expand its marketing and data collection to include what you watch on your Tivo .
The data collected would help Google , who sells TV ads , show who watches which commercials and who skips right over them .
The article outlines how this could be bad for networks that cash in whether you watch the ad or not .
Does this mean fewer commercials for viewers ?
Not likely , but one can hope .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>accido writes "As reported by The LA Times, Google has now decided to expand its marketing and data collection to include what you watch on your Tivo.
The data collected would help Google, who sells TV ads, show who watches which commercials and who skips right over them.
The article outlines how this could be bad for networks that cash in whether you watch the ad or not.
Does this mean fewer commercials for viewers?
Not likely, but one can hope.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30233532</id>
	<title>Re:Who the fuck still watches TV?</title>
	<author>value\_added</author>
	<datestamp>1257179640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Yeah, alot of people don't realize how much better life is without TV. </i></p><p>Generally, yes.  But you're talking about commercial television, just like people who complain about crappy radio are talking about commercial radio</p><p>I'm a regular viewer of of PBS and C-SPAN.  The Charlie Rose show, for example, is probably the closest most people will get to an intelligent and informative conversation than they'll have had all year long in their personal lives, reading material included.  How is that, or the latest documentary or episode of Frontline not enriching?  And C-SPAN, hell, what could be more informative?   Instead of reading on Slashdot re-circulated Bruce Schneier blogposts, why not watch and listen to him directly?</p><p>You need to get out more.  Your comments reminds me of the time when I mentioned to a friend that I stumbled across this nutty but really well done show called A Prairie Home Companion on the radio.  He told me had been a regular listener longer than he could remember.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , alot of people do n't realize how much better life is without TV .
Generally , yes .
But you 're talking about commercial television , just like people who complain about crappy radio are talking about commercial radioI 'm a regular viewer of of PBS and C-SPAN .
The Charlie Rose show , for example , is probably the closest most people will get to an intelligent and informative conversation than they 'll have had all year long in their personal lives , reading material included .
How is that , or the latest documentary or episode of Frontline not enriching ?
And C-SPAN , hell , what could be more informative ?
Instead of reading on Slashdot re-circulated Bruce Schneier blogposts , why not watch and listen to him directly ? You need to get out more .
Your comments reminds me of the time when I mentioned to a friend that I stumbled across this nutty but really well done show called A Prairie Home Companion on the radio .
He told me had been a regular listener longer than he could remember .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, alot of people don't realize how much better life is without TV.
Generally, yes.
But you're talking about commercial television, just like people who complain about crappy radio are talking about commercial radioI'm a regular viewer of of PBS and C-SPAN.
The Charlie Rose show, for example, is probably the closest most people will get to an intelligent and informative conversation than they'll have had all year long in their personal lives, reading material included.
How is that, or the latest documentary or episode of Frontline not enriching?
And C-SPAN, hell, what could be more informative?
Instead of reading on Slashdot re-circulated Bruce Schneier blogposts, why not watch and listen to him directly?You need to get out more.
Your comments reminds me of the time when I mentioned to a friend that I stumbled across this nutty but really well done show called A Prairie Home Companion on the radio.
He told me had been a regular listener longer than he could remember.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231748</id>
	<title>Re:Who the fuck still watches TV?</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1257164760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, alot of people don't realize how much better life is without TV. When I moved out for the first time I didn't have the cash for cable, it was something I could live without. After 1 month of no TV I began to realize how much more time I had for things I always wanted to do. I took up sketching, I go stargazing, even started programming side projects.</p><p>TV just brings you down, even if you only watch it for an hour, after that hour you feel lazy and you just want to go to bed or play video games. It ends up ruining the whole evening. Without it, I feel obligated to DO something. Usually its absense will help me dedicate that half an hour to chores, and then I will want to do something more creative, like write a song.</p><p>Anytime I'm over visitting someone else's place, and they have the TV on, 99\% of the time I can't stand what is on there, because its SO trashy. The only channel I would even bother watching now is discovery, for Mythbusters and such.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , alot of people do n't realize how much better life is without TV .
When I moved out for the first time I did n't have the cash for cable , it was something I could live without .
After 1 month of no TV I began to realize how much more time I had for things I always wanted to do .
I took up sketching , I go stargazing , even started programming side projects.TV just brings you down , even if you only watch it for an hour , after that hour you feel lazy and you just want to go to bed or play video games .
It ends up ruining the whole evening .
Without it , I feel obligated to DO something .
Usually its absense will help me dedicate that half an hour to chores , and then I will want to do something more creative , like write a song.Anytime I 'm over visitting someone else 's place , and they have the TV on , 99 \ % of the time I ca n't stand what is on there , because its SO trashy .
The only channel I would even bother watching now is discovery , for Mythbusters and such .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, alot of people don't realize how much better life is without TV.
When I moved out for the first time I didn't have the cash for cable, it was something I could live without.
After 1 month of no TV I began to realize how much more time I had for things I always wanted to do.
I took up sketching, I go stargazing, even started programming side projects.TV just brings you down, even if you only watch it for an hour, after that hour you feel lazy and you just want to go to bed or play video games.
It ends up ruining the whole evening.
Without it, I feel obligated to DO something.
Usually its absense will help me dedicate that half an hour to chores, and then I will want to do something more creative, like write a song.Anytime I'm over visitting someone else's place, and they have the TV on, 99\% of the time I can't stand what is on there, because its SO trashy.
The only channel I would even bother watching now is discovery, for Mythbusters and such.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30236810</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure 99\%</title>
	<author>jedidiah</author>
	<datestamp>1259249820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think that's a bit optimistic.</p><p>99\% might "fast forward" through them. Although actual commercial "skip" is a special hack you enable yourself.</p><p>When this was undone every time the unit cycled power, I was the only one in my household that could handle putting the hack back in place. It's an obscure set of commands sent through the remote that requires a bit of a "knack" to get right.</p><p>Even with 30-second skip, you still need to pay attention and know when to stop skipping. There's still an opportunity for something to catch your eye.</p><p>That other device had genuine commercial skip and got sued for it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that 's a bit optimistic.99 \ % might " fast forward " through them .
Although actual commercial " skip " is a special hack you enable yourself.When this was undone every time the unit cycled power , I was the only one in my household that could handle putting the hack back in place .
It 's an obscure set of commands sent through the remote that requires a bit of a " knack " to get right.Even with 30-second skip , you still need to pay attention and know when to stop skipping .
There 's still an opportunity for something to catch your eye.That other device had genuine commercial skip and got sued for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that's a bit optimistic.99\% might "fast forward" through them.
Although actual commercial "skip" is a special hack you enable yourself.When this was undone every time the unit cycled power, I was the only one in my household that could handle putting the hack back in place.
It's an obscure set of commands sent through the remote that requires a bit of a "knack" to get right.Even with 30-second skip, you still need to pay attention and know when to stop skipping.
There's still an opportunity for something to catch your eye.That other device had genuine commercial skip and got sued for it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231760</id>
	<title>Re:Who the fuck still watches TV?</title>
	<author>Fluffeh</author>
	<datestamp>1257164880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Or sit here posting Anon on the web. Not that I disagree with any of the things you said were more entertaining or enlightening, but you know, sometimes when I am doing some housework, I like to have some pointless trashy TV going, so I can mainly focus on the housework, but feel like I am watching TV.<br> <br>

Yes, much of TV is crap, but you ever tried getting the latest news update on DVD at your local DVD store? How about the weather updates? TV has it's benefits.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or sit here posting Anon on the web .
Not that I disagree with any of the things you said were more entertaining or enlightening , but you know , sometimes when I am doing some housework , I like to have some pointless trashy TV going , so I can mainly focus on the housework , but feel like I am watching TV .
Yes , much of TV is crap , but you ever tried getting the latest news update on DVD at your local DVD store ?
How about the weather updates ?
TV has it 's benefits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or sit here posting Anon on the web.
Not that I disagree with any of the things you said were more entertaining or enlightening, but you know, sometimes when I am doing some housework, I like to have some pointless trashy TV going, so I can mainly focus on the housework, but feel like I am watching TV.
Yes, much of TV is crap, but you ever tried getting the latest news update on DVD at your local DVD store?
How about the weather updates?
TV has it's benefits.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30234842</id>
	<title>Re:The choke hold of google</title>
	<author>TapeCutter</author>
	<datestamp>1259228280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't understand your problem, are they holding a gun to your head?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't understand your problem , are they holding a gun to your head ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't understand your problem, are they holding a gun to your head?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30237030</id>
	<title>Re:I want it all</title>
	<author>jedidiah</author>
	<datestamp>1259251440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>???</p><p>BUY them if you like them so much.</p><p>The whole Gilligan's Island series can be had for dirt cheap at Walmart.</p><p>TGAH is a little more expensive because it's a bit of a cult show.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>? ?
? BUY them if you like them so much.The whole Gilligan 's Island series can be had for dirt cheap at Walmart.TGAH is a little more expensive because it 's a bit of a cult show .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>??
?BUY them if you like them so much.The whole Gilligan's Island series can be had for dirt cheap at Walmart.TGAH is a little more expensive because it's a bit of a cult show.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30232678</id>
	<title>Google is being clever</title>
	<author>TadMSTR</author>
	<datestamp>1257171960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If they are able to provide target ads for viewers, this could be good for digital video distribution. This market really needs to go and improve. Cable  TV is too overpriced for the "content" they provide. We put the phone on the internet and now its time to put the TV there as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If they are able to provide target ads for viewers , this could be good for digital video distribution .
This market really needs to go and improve .
Cable TV is too overpriced for the " content " they provide .
We put the phone on the internet and now its time to put the TV there as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they are able to provide target ads for viewers, this could be good for digital video distribution.
This market really needs to go and improve.
Cable  TV is too overpriced for the "content" they provide.
We put the phone on the internet and now its time to put the TV there as well.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231634</id>
	<title>2nd!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257163740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>2nd woot</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>2nd woot</tokentext>
<sentencetext>2nd woot</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231950</id>
	<title>get a mythtv</title>
	<author>Dan667</author>
	<datestamp>1257166620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>then it just skips commercials without even needing a remote button push and invasion of privacy like this.</htmltext>
<tokenext>then it just skips commercials without even needing a remote button push and invasion of privacy like this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>then it just skips commercials without even needing a remote button push and invasion of privacy like this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231964</id>
	<title>Commercials?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257166680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tivo actually automatically downloads commercials, perhaps that is what they are tracking. I have watched a couple about new cars coming out. However, if Google checks our viewing habits they will see we watch mostly Netflix "instant"  at about $9.00 a month it is the best deal for us and so far commercial free.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tivo actually automatically downloads commercials , perhaps that is what they are tracking .
I have watched a couple about new cars coming out .
However , if Google checks our viewing habits they will see we watch mostly Netflix " instant " at about $ 9.00 a month it is the best deal for us and so far commercial free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tivo actually automatically downloads commercials, perhaps that is what they are tracking.
I have watched a couple about new cars coming out.
However, if Google checks our viewing habits they will see we watch mostly Netflix "instant"  at about $9.00 a month it is the best deal for us and so far commercial free.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30232720</id>
	<title>Is Google becoming more evil than MS?</title>
	<author>grapeape</author>
	<datestamp>1257172320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While an a purely ethics level I don't care for MS's business practices at least they tend to usually just screw other businesses, Google frankly scares the crap out of me.  Its pretty easy to avoid MS but avoiding becoming a google statistic is becoming increasingly impossible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While an a purely ethics level I do n't care for MS 's business practices at least they tend to usually just screw other businesses , Google frankly scares the crap out of me .
Its pretty easy to avoid MS but avoiding becoming a google statistic is becoming increasingly impossible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While an a purely ethics level I don't care for MS's business practices at least they tend to usually just screw other businesses, Google frankly scares the crap out of me.
Its pretty easy to avoid MS but avoiding becoming a google statistic is becoming increasingly impossible.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231940</id>
	<title>Hope...</title>
	<author>countertrolling</author>
	<datestamp>1257166440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, look where <i>that's</i> gotten us.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , look where that 's gotten us .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, look where that's gotten us.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30232102</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure 99\%</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257167880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've have used tivo for over 3 years and tivo has commercials that can't be fast fowarded through.<br>though they rarely come up, but they do exsist</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've have used tivo for over 3 years and tivo has commercials that ca n't be fast fowarded through.though they rarely come up , but they do exsist</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've have used tivo for over 3 years and tivo has commercials that can't be fast fowarded through.though they rarely come up, but they do exsist</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30233720</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure 99\%</title>
	<author>Mr. DOS</author>
	<datestamp>1257181680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I often enjoy commercials the first time I see them. By the fifteenth time (or worse, second time in one commercial break - curse your advertising directors, CBC!), I am utterly sick of them and wish they'd never been made. Except for that one [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QW3bInxgmc]Subaru Canada ad[/url]. I'm still not tired of that one.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; --- Mr. DOS</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I often enjoy commercials the first time I see them .
By the fifteenth time ( or worse , second time in one commercial break - curse your advertising directors , CBC !
) , I am utterly sick of them and wish they 'd never been made .
Except for that one [ url = http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = 5QW3bInxgmc ] Subaru Canada ad [ /url ] .
I 'm still not tired of that one .
      --- Mr. DOS</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I often enjoy commercials the first time I see them.
By the fifteenth time (or worse, second time in one commercial break - curse your advertising directors, CBC!
), I am utterly sick of them and wish they'd never been made.
Except for that one [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QW3bInxgmc]Subaru Canada ad[/url].
I'm still not tired of that one.
      --- Mr. DOS</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30232078</id>
	<title>I want it all</title>
	<author>Fulseman</author>
	<datestamp>1257167640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I spend way too much money on cable every month.  I don't understand why I can't "order" say Gilligan's Island (the one when they find the radioactive seeds) any time I want.  I would sit through a commercial or two to be able to watch what I want.  I just don't understand why the way we watch TV doesn't change.  Instead of focus groups and canceled new sitcoms, let me watch what I know I already want to watch, then I'll watch the commercials too.

How is "The Greatest American Hero" (the first episode they get to meet the aliens) worth more sitting in some vault worth more to the TV folks than me watching what I want and willing to sit through a sales pitch?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I spend way too much money on cable every month .
I do n't understand why I ca n't " order " say Gilligan 's Island ( the one when they find the radioactive seeds ) any time I want .
I would sit through a commercial or two to be able to watch what I want .
I just do n't understand why the way we watch TV does n't change .
Instead of focus groups and canceled new sitcoms , let me watch what I know I already want to watch , then I 'll watch the commercials too .
How is " The Greatest American Hero " ( the first episode they get to meet the aliens ) worth more sitting in some vault worth more to the TV folks than me watching what I want and willing to sit through a sales pitch ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I spend way too much money on cable every month.
I don't understand why I can't "order" say Gilligan's Island (the one when they find the radioactive seeds) any time I want.
I would sit through a commercial or two to be able to watch what I want.
I just don't understand why the way we watch TV doesn't change.
Instead of focus groups and canceled new sitcoms, let me watch what I know I already want to watch, then I'll watch the commercials too.
How is "The Greatest American Hero" (the first episode they get to meet the aliens) worth more sitting in some vault worth more to the TV folks than me watching what I want and willing to sit through a sales pitch?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30232288</id>
	<title>The choke hold of google</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257168960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This article just makes me hate google more and more, you have no idea how many patents they have covering every aspect of every possible search engine. Isn't google using illegal means to gain information for their, financial gain then to bombard us with advertisements. This has to come an end, how far can a company go before it gets out of hand. the way this is going googles going to get worse than microsoft, thats a complement microsoft. Isn't this a breach of privacy? How bad will it become before, anyone will put their foot down? Also, Isn't it illegal with the methods that the networks are using to get personal information, in order to fine tune the battering ram of advertisements the besiege us with every day? Isn't time for the government to put their foot down. For the right of privacy of every person in this country, along with the world, as google's masive hand starts to cover the world.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This article just makes me hate google more and more , you have no idea how many patents they have covering every aspect of every possible search engine .
Is n't google using illegal means to gain information for their , financial gain then to bombard us with advertisements .
This has to come an end , how far can a company go before it gets out of hand .
the way this is going googles going to get worse than microsoft , thats a complement microsoft .
Is n't this a breach of privacy ?
How bad will it become before , anyone will put their foot down ?
Also , Is n't it illegal with the methods that the networks are using to get personal information , in order to fine tune the battering ram of advertisements the besiege us with every day ?
Is n't time for the government to put their foot down .
For the right of privacy of every person in this country , along with the world , as google 's masive hand starts to cover the world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This article just makes me hate google more and more, you have no idea how many patents they have covering every aspect of every possible search engine.
Isn't google using illegal means to gain information for their, financial gain then to bombard us with advertisements.
This has to come an end, how far can a company go before it gets out of hand.
the way this is going googles going to get worse than microsoft, thats a complement microsoft.
Isn't this a breach of privacy?
How bad will it become before, anyone will put their foot down?
Also, Isn't it illegal with the methods that the networks are using to get personal information, in order to fine tune the battering ram of advertisements the besiege us with every day?
Isn't time for the government to put their foot down.
For the right of privacy of every person in this country, along with the world, as google's masive hand starts to cover the world.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30236120</id>
	<title>Re:Easily Fixed! (There's a business idea in this.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259243460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If Google or others sites are recording &amp; selling our search keys, here's a solution:</p><p>- develop an application that - while our browser is idle -</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; selects BOGUS search keys AT RANDOM and sends</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; them to Google as if we'd entered them in real searches</p><p>Ie, feed Google a "noisy" stream of search keys, at about<br>the same speed as we'd be sending them, if they were<br>real searches.</p><p>I have no doubt that such an application would become<br>very popular, very soon...</p><p>Any takers?</p><p>PS Are there any such applications in existence today?</p></div><p>Track Me Not</p><p><a href="http://mrl.nyu.edu/~dhowe/trackmenot/index.html" title="nyu.edu" rel="nofollow">http://mrl.nyu.edu/~dhowe/trackmenot/index.html</a> [nyu.edu]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If Google or others sites are recording &amp; selling our search keys , here 's a solution : - develop an application that - while our browser is idle -       selects BOGUS search keys AT RANDOM and sends       them to Google as if we 'd entered them in real searchesIe , feed Google a " noisy " stream of search keys , at aboutthe same speed as we 'd be sending them , if they werereal searches.I have no doubt that such an application would becomevery popular , very soon...Any takers ? PS Are there any such applications in existence today ? Track Me Nothttp : //mrl.nyu.edu/ ~ dhowe/trackmenot/index.html [ nyu.edu ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Google or others sites are recording &amp; selling our search keys, here's a solution:- develop an application that - while our browser is idle -
      selects BOGUS search keys AT RANDOM and sends
      them to Google as if we'd entered them in real searchesIe, feed Google a "noisy" stream of search keys, at aboutthe same speed as we'd be sending them, if they werereal searches.I have no doubt that such an application would becomevery popular, very soon...Any takers?PS Are there any such applications in existence today?Track Me Nothttp://mrl.nyu.edu/~dhowe/trackmenot/index.html [nyu.edu]
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30232834</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30233972</id>
	<title>tivo's opt out option</title>
	<author>sdnoob</author>
	<datestamp>1257185100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>absolutely no mention in TFA of tivo's existing opt-out policy (keeps your tivo from reporting usage and viewing history of your box) and if it will also apply to google's sticky fingers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>absolutely no mention in TFA of tivo 's existing opt-out policy ( keeps your tivo from reporting usage and viewing history of your box ) and if it will also apply to google 's sticky fingers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>absolutely no mention in TFA of tivo's existing opt-out policy (keeps your tivo from reporting usage and viewing history of your box) and if it will also apply to google's sticky fingers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231656</id>
	<title>If you want fewer commercials</title>
	<author>pwnies</author>
	<datestamp>1257163920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why not just set up mythtv and have it auto-extract?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not just set up mythtv and have it auto-extract ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not just set up mythtv and have it auto-extract?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231828</id>
	<title>haha all this amouts to is</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257165360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>a big pant-load of results based on guessing what the analyzed data means.
<br>
<br>
For example, I usually skip commercials.  Sometimes when I am multi-tasking thus only half-watching I forget to skip the commercials, but I am not watching them either.  And so on...
<br>
<br>
One thing I know for sure, I picked the wrong business, weathermen and marketing analysis experts amount to the same thing; getting paid for guessing with no repercussions for being wrong.  A perfect job!</htmltext>
<tokenext>a big pant-load of results based on guessing what the analyzed data means .
For example , I usually skip commercials .
Sometimes when I am multi-tasking thus only half-watching I forget to skip the commercials , but I am not watching them either .
And so on.. . One thing I know for sure , I picked the wrong business , weathermen and marketing analysis experts amount to the same thing ; getting paid for guessing with no repercussions for being wrong .
A perfect job !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a big pant-load of results based on guessing what the analyzed data means.
For example, I usually skip commercials.
Sometimes when I am multi-tasking thus only half-watching I forget to skip the commercials, but I am not watching them either.
And so on...


One thing I know for sure, I picked the wrong business, weathermen and marketing analysis experts amount to the same thing; getting paid for guessing with no repercussions for being wrong.
A perfect job!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231804</id>
	<title>Re:Who the fuck still watches TV?</title>
	<author>sakdoctor</author>
	<datestamp>1257165180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Parent poster <a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28694" title="theonion.com">doesn't even OWN a TV</a> [theonion.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Parent poster does n't even OWN a TV [ theonion.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Parent poster doesn't even OWN a TV [theonion.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231654</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231818</id>
	<title>Re:Weather they stop the ads?</title>
	<author>Jazz-Masta</author>
	<datestamp>1257165300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They have ads there too? Sunny and a 50\% chance of Cialis?</p></div><p>Typical, the weatherman *always* says a 50\% chance...of course it is...chaos theory. Wait a minute, was I just advertised to?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They have ads there too ?
Sunny and a 50 \ % chance of Cialis ? Typical , the weatherman * always * says a 50 \ % chance...of course it is...chaos theory .
Wait a minute , was I just advertised to ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They have ads there too?
Sunny and a 50\% chance of Cialis?Typical, the weatherman *always* says a 50\% chance...of course it is...chaos theory.
Wait a minute, was I just advertised to?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231650</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30232320</id>
	<title>Commercials on TiVo?</title>
	<author>TheRecklessWanderer</author>
	<datestamp>1257169080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Watching commercials on a Tivo

Now i live in Canada, so I don't have Tivo, but I have the equivalent in Canadian terms.  My question is this.  Why would anyone in their right mind watch commercials.  That's like buying a car and then pushing it around yourself.  Definitely not taking advantage of the technology.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Watching commercials on a Tivo Now i live in Canada , so I do n't have Tivo , but I have the equivalent in Canadian terms .
My question is this .
Why would anyone in their right mind watch commercials .
That 's like buying a car and then pushing it around yourself .
Definitely not taking advantage of the technology .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Watching commercials on a Tivo

Now i live in Canada, so I don't have Tivo, but I have the equivalent in Canadian terms.
My question is this.
Why would anyone in their right mind watch commercials.
That's like buying a car and then pushing it around yourself.
Definitely not taking advantage of the technology.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231780</id>
	<title>Re:Whether, not weather</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257164940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Rain has nothing to do with this.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
No, but if your cable is down and you have crappy reception, all that snow might make you tempted to watch something you Tivo'd
</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Rain has nothing to do with this .
No , but if your cable is down and you have crappy reception , all that snow might make you tempted to watch something you Tivo 'd</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rain has nothing to do with this.
No, but if your cable is down and you have crappy reception, all that snow might make you tempted to watch something you Tivo'd

	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231626</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30232578</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure 99\%</title>
	<author>aplusjimages</author>
	<datestamp>1257171120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What advertisers need are more events, like the Superbowl, where it becomes cool to watch commercials. Or do what most Internet sites have done and go with the 15 sec commercial spot instead of the 30 - 60 sec spot.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What advertisers need are more events , like the Superbowl , where it becomes cool to watch commercials .
Or do what most Internet sites have done and go with the 15 sec commercial spot instead of the 30 - 60 sec spot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What advertisers need are more events, like the Superbowl, where it becomes cool to watch commercials.
Or do what most Internet sites have done and go with the 15 sec commercial spot instead of the 30 - 60 sec spot.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231648</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231850</id>
	<title>Cash in weather</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257165540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sounds like my kind of weather!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds like my kind of weather !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds like my kind of weather!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30233812</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure 99\%</title>
	<author>Geoffrey.landis</author>
	<datestamp>1257183120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I often enjoy commercials the first time I see them. By the fifteenth time (or worse, second time in one commercial break - curse your advertising directors, CBC!), I am utterly sick of them and wish they'd never been made....</p></div><p>Point.  It's the reruns that make commercials boring.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I often enjoy commercials the first time I see them .
By the fifteenth time ( or worse , second time in one commercial break - curse your advertising directors , CBC !
) , I am utterly sick of them and wish they 'd never been made....Point .
It 's the reruns that make commercials boring .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I often enjoy commercials the first time I see them.
By the fifteenth time (or worse, second time in one commercial break - curse your advertising directors, CBC!
), I am utterly sick of them and wish they'd never been made....Point.
It's the reruns that make commercials boring.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30233720</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30246762</id>
	<title>Re:Who the fuck still watches TV?</title>
	<author>LanMan04</author>
	<datestamp>1259345940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I feel obligated to DO something.</p></div><p>I get enough of that at work, thanks.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I feel obligated to DO something.I get enough of that at work , thanks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I feel obligated to DO something.I get enough of that at work, thanks.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231748</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231654</id>
	<title>Who the fuck still watches TV?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257163920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously, who the fuck still watches TV? There hasn't been anything good on any channel for years now, not that there was much good on in the first place.</p><p>Go see a play at the local theater, watch a live band at a nearby pub, go for a walk, or read a book. Those are all much more enlightening and entertaining options.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , who the fuck still watches TV ?
There has n't been anything good on any channel for years now , not that there was much good on in the first place.Go see a play at the local theater , watch a live band at a nearby pub , go for a walk , or read a book .
Those are all much more enlightening and entertaining options .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, who the fuck still watches TV?
There hasn't been anything good on any channel for years now, not that there was much good on in the first place.Go see a play at the local theater, watch a live band at a nearby pub, go for a walk, or read a book.
Those are all much more enlightening and entertaining options.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30232244</id>
	<title>I Agree</title>
	<author>KraftDinner</author>
	<datestamp>1257168720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Fewer commercials? Not a chance. I think what we'll find is more channels being shown to people who just skip over them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Fewer commercials ?
Not a chance .
I think what we 'll find is more channels being shown to people who just skip over them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fewer commercials?
Not a chance.
I think what we'll find is more channels being shown to people who just skip over them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30233714</id>
	<title>Re:Who the fuck still watches TV?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257181620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>TV just brings you down, even if you only watch it for an hour, after that hour you feel lazy and you just want to go to bed or play video games. It ends up ruining the whole evening. Without it, I feel obligated to DO something. Usually its absense will help me dedicate that half an hour to chores, and then I will want to do something more creative, <b>like write a song</b>.</p></div><p>Your neighbour called.  He'd like you to watch more tv...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>TV just brings you down , even if you only watch it for an hour , after that hour you feel lazy and you just want to go to bed or play video games .
It ends up ruining the whole evening .
Without it , I feel obligated to DO something .
Usually its absense will help me dedicate that half an hour to chores , and then I will want to do something more creative , like write a song.Your neighbour called .
He 'd like you to watch more tv.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TV just brings you down, even if you only watch it for an hour, after that hour you feel lazy and you just want to go to bed or play video games.
It ends up ruining the whole evening.
Without it, I feel obligated to DO something.
Usually its absense will help me dedicate that half an hour to chores, and then I will want to do something more creative, like write a song.Your neighbour called.
He'd like you to watch more tv...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231748</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30233092</id>
	<title>Re:Easily Fixed! (There's a business idea in this.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257175200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Firefox addon TrackMeNot does this. Been using it for eons.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Firefox addon TrackMeNot does this .
Been using it for eons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Firefox addon TrackMeNot does this.
Been using it for eons.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30232834</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231914</id>
	<title>Maybe some day..</title>
	<author>Sloppy</author>
	<datestamp>1257166320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>..Google will "team up" <em>me</em> to extract info from my mythbackend.</p><p>Tivo was cool in its day, but part of the reason I modernized was to take total control.  It's mine, <em>all mine</em>, and if you want a piece, you talk to <em>me</em>.  This is why I fuckin' love Free Software.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>..Google will " team up " me to extract info from my mythbackend.Tivo was cool in its day , but part of the reason I modernized was to take total control .
It 's mine , all mine , and if you want a piece , you talk to me .
This is why I fuckin ' love Free Software .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>..Google will "team up" me to extract info from my mythbackend.Tivo was cool in its day, but part of the reason I modernized was to take total control.
It's mine, all mine, and if you want a piece, you talk to me.
This is why I fuckin' love Free Software.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30234566</id>
	<title>Relevance</title>
	<author>scarlac</author>
	<datestamp>1259267160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> (...) Does this mean fewer commercials for viewers? Not likely, but one can hope.</p></div><p>Quite possibly not. It would mean more relevant commercials and less annoying flashing and screaming ads. Before Google entered, advertising on the internet with mere text was unheard of. By using very relevant ads both viewers/users and companies benefit.
The issue with todays TV ads is that they are highly irrelevant. It's up to the company to make sure the ad gets displayed at the right time of day. Perhaps Google could improve upon this, so some of us can be freed of vacuum cleaner ads, unless they are robots.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>( ... ) Does this mean fewer commercials for viewers ?
Not likely , but one can hope.Quite possibly not .
It would mean more relevant commercials and less annoying flashing and screaming ads .
Before Google entered , advertising on the internet with mere text was unheard of .
By using very relevant ads both viewers/users and companies benefit .
The issue with todays TV ads is that they are highly irrelevant .
It 's up to the company to make sure the ad gets displayed at the right time of day .
Perhaps Google could improve upon this , so some of us can be freed of vacuum cleaner ads , unless they are robots .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> (...) Does this mean fewer commercials for viewers?
Not likely, but one can hope.Quite possibly not.
It would mean more relevant commercials and less annoying flashing and screaming ads.
Before Google entered, advertising on the internet with mere text was unheard of.
By using very relevant ads both viewers/users and companies benefit.
The issue with todays TV ads is that they are highly irrelevant.
It's up to the company to make sure the ad gets displayed at the right time of day.
Perhaps Google could improve upon this, so some of us can be freed of vacuum cleaner ads, unless they are robots.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30236746</id>
	<title>Re:Easily Fixed! (There's a business idea in this.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259249340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <a href="http://mrl.nyu.edu/~dhowe/trackmenot/" title="nyu.edu" rel="nofollow">trackmenot</a> [nyu.edu] </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>trackmenot [ nyu.edu ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext> trackmenot [nyu.edu] </sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30232834</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30233644</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure 99\%</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257180960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Actually, the commercials are the best part of TV. They are innovative, have high production values, and basically all the stops are pulled out to make sure they're effective.</p></div><p>Oh yeah.  If you think the ads are innovative with high production values, then I'M DAN DOLAN*, AND HAVE I TOLD YOU ABOUT EASY-OFF BAM?<br>(* or BARRY SCOTT, or MARTIN GRELLIS)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , the commercials are the best part of TV .
They are innovative , have high production values , and basically all the stops are pulled out to make sure they 're effective.Oh yeah .
If you think the ads are innovative with high production values , then I 'M DAN DOLAN * , AND HAVE I TOLD YOU ABOUT EASY-OFF BAM ?
( * or BARRY SCOTT , or MARTIN GRELLIS )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, the commercials are the best part of TV.
They are innovative, have high production values, and basically all the stops are pulled out to make sure they're effective.Oh yeah.
If you think the ads are innovative with high production values, then I'M DAN DOLAN*, AND HAVE I TOLD YOU ABOUT EASY-OFF BAM?
(* or BARRY SCOTT, or MARTIN GRELLIS)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231894</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30233890</id>
	<title>Re:Block data collection</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257184080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't see what's insightful about the parent post--the only way to totally block all this data collection stuff is to go back to using something like NCSA Mosaic.</p><p>That's right, can't even have cookies, or JavaScript. Even then there are the server logs that show the IP address and the referrer but anyway.</p><p>You know who is to blame for all this? The technological wizards, geeks, etc. who invented this stuff and failed to prevent malicious use when they deployed it. They allowed this to happen. Instead of carefully thinking about the effects of mainstream use of the technology and the potential for nefarious use, it was simply deploy first because it was "cool", because it set someone else apart from an otherwise standards compliant application (yes, that even goes as far back as Netscape Navigator's extensions beyond the HTML standard), and now--look what you have done to the web (well, besides make it so slow there are page load times even using high speed broadband internet).</p><p>Cookies? Okay, now there's state to HTML, but what did that do beyond just introducing state?</p><p>JavaScript? Okay, now pages are animated, not just static text. Again, though, what did that do beyond animating the page?</p><p>Cascading style sheets? Can't have relative page rendering, no it must look exactly like a newspaper or some artists canvas. Beyond a pixel perfect page rendering (although browsers still have rendering bugs), what else did that do? (Big hint: cross site scripting exploits).</p><p>Three easy examples, others can fill in the rest. I don't want the web to be some reporter's newspaper, some artist's canvas, or another version of television thank you very much. Want to take back the web? Start by going back to HTML 1.0, back to static text, and lose the dream of the web being an application.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't see what 's insightful about the parent post--the only way to totally block all this data collection stuff is to go back to using something like NCSA Mosaic.That 's right , ca n't even have cookies , or JavaScript .
Even then there are the server logs that show the IP address and the referrer but anyway.You know who is to blame for all this ?
The technological wizards , geeks , etc .
who invented this stuff and failed to prevent malicious use when they deployed it .
They allowed this to happen .
Instead of carefully thinking about the effects of mainstream use of the technology and the potential for nefarious use , it was simply deploy first because it was " cool " , because it set someone else apart from an otherwise standards compliant application ( yes , that even goes as far back as Netscape Navigator 's extensions beyond the HTML standard ) , and now--look what you have done to the web ( well , besides make it so slow there are page load times even using high speed broadband internet ) .Cookies ?
Okay , now there 's state to HTML , but what did that do beyond just introducing state ? JavaScript ?
Okay , now pages are animated , not just static text .
Again , though , what did that do beyond animating the page ? Cascading style sheets ?
Ca n't have relative page rendering , no it must look exactly like a newspaper or some artists canvas .
Beyond a pixel perfect page rendering ( although browsers still have rendering bugs ) , what else did that do ?
( Big hint : cross site scripting exploits ) .Three easy examples , others can fill in the rest .
I do n't want the web to be some reporter 's newspaper , some artist 's canvas , or another version of television thank you very much .
Want to take back the web ?
Start by going back to HTML 1.0 , back to static text , and lose the dream of the web being an application .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't see what's insightful about the parent post--the only way to totally block all this data collection stuff is to go back to using something like NCSA Mosaic.That's right, can't even have cookies, or JavaScript.
Even then there are the server logs that show the IP address and the referrer but anyway.You know who is to blame for all this?
The technological wizards, geeks, etc.
who invented this stuff and failed to prevent malicious use when they deployed it.
They allowed this to happen.
Instead of carefully thinking about the effects of mainstream use of the technology and the potential for nefarious use, it was simply deploy first because it was "cool", because it set someone else apart from an otherwise standards compliant application (yes, that even goes as far back as Netscape Navigator's extensions beyond the HTML standard), and now--look what you have done to the web (well, besides make it so slow there are page load times even using high speed broadband internet).Cookies?
Okay, now there's state to HTML, but what did that do beyond just introducing state?JavaScript?
Okay, now pages are animated, not just static text.
Again, though, what did that do beyond animating the page?Cascading style sheets?
Can't have relative page rendering, no it must look exactly like a newspaper or some artists canvas.
Beyond a pixel perfect page rendering (although browsers still have rendering bugs), what else did that do?
(Big hint: cross site scripting exploits).Three easy examples, others can fill in the rest.
I don't want the web to be some reporter's newspaper, some artist's canvas, or another version of television thank you very much.
Want to take back the web?
Start by going back to HTML 1.0, back to static text, and lose the dream of the web being an application.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231896</id>
	<title>What's Tivo?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257166200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is it an internet-provided TV channels service? Is it better than cable or satellite? Do they offer their services in Europe or is it blocked by IP address?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it an internet-provided TV channels service ?
Is it better than cable or satellite ?
Do they offer their services in Europe or is it blocked by IP address ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it an internet-provided TV channels service?
Is it better than cable or satellite?
Do they offer their services in Europe or is it blocked by IP address?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30232834</id>
	<title>Easily Fixed! (There's a business idea in this...)</title>
	<author>ivi</author>
	<datestamp>1257173100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If Google or others sites are recording &amp; selling our search keys, here's a solution:</p><p>- develop an application that - while our browser is idle -<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; selects BOGUS search keys AT RANDOM and sends<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; them to Google as if we'd entered them in real searches</p><p>Ie, feed Google a "noisy" stream of search keys, at about<br>the same speed as we'd be sending them, if they were<br>real searches.</p><p>I have no doubt that such an application would become<br>very popular, very soon...</p><p>Any takers?</p><p>PS Are there any such applications in existence today?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Google or others sites are recording &amp; selling our search keys , here 's a solution : - develop an application that - while our browser is idle -       selects BOGUS search keys AT RANDOM and sends       them to Google as if we 'd entered them in real searchesIe , feed Google a " noisy " stream of search keys , at aboutthe same speed as we 'd be sending them , if they werereal searches.I have no doubt that such an application would becomevery popular , very soon...Any takers ? PS Are there any such applications in existence today ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Google or others sites are recording &amp; selling our search keys, here's a solution:- develop an application that - while our browser is idle -
      selects BOGUS search keys AT RANDOM and sends
      them to Google as if we'd entered them in real searchesIe, feed Google a "noisy" stream of search keys, at aboutthe same speed as we'd be sending them, if they werereal searches.I have no doubt that such an application would becomevery popular, very soon...Any takers?PS Are there any such applications in existence today?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30234394</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure 99\%</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257191100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Marketers must LOVE you!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Marketers must LOVE you !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Marketers must LOVE you!</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231994</id>
	<title>Re:Weather they stop the ads?Christmas gifts</title>
	<author>coolforsale126</author>
	<datestamp>1257166980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.coolforsale.com/" title="coolforsale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coolforsale.com/</a> [coolforsale.com]
Dear ladies and gentlemen Hello, In order to meet Christmas,

Site launched Christmas spree, welcome new and old customers

come to participate in the  there are unexpected surprises,

look forward to your arrival. Only this site have this

treatmentOur goal is "Best quality, Best reputation , Best

services". Your satisfaction is our main pursue. You can find

the best products from us, meeting your different needs.
Ladies and Gentlemen  weicome  to  my

coolforsale.com.Here,there  are   the   most   fashion

products . Pass by but don't   miss  it.Select  your  favorite

clothing!  Welcome  to come  next   time ! Thank you!  <a href="http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76" title="coolforsale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76</a> [coolforsale.com] (Tracksuit w)
ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket,
Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33
Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35
Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&amp;g) $35
Tshirts (Polo<nobr> <wbr></nobr>,ed hardy,lacoste) $16
free shipping
Thanks!!! Advance wish you a merry Christmas.</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.coolforsale.com/ [ coolforsale.com ] Dear ladies and gentlemen Hello , In order to meet Christmas , Site launched Christmas spree , welcome new and old customers come to participate in the there are unexpected surprises , look forward to your arrival .
Only this site have this treatmentOur goal is " Best quality , Best reputation , Best services " .
Your satisfaction is our main pursue .
You can find the best products from us , meeting your different needs .
Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products .
Pass by but do n't miss it.Select your favorite clothing !
Welcome to come next time !
Thank you !
http : //www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp ? id = s76 [ coolforsale.com ] ( Tracksuit w ) ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket , Air jordan ( 1-24 ) shoes $ 33 Nike shox ( R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3 ) $ 35 Handbags ( Coach lv fendi d&amp;g ) $ 35 Tshirts ( Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste ) $ 16 free shipping Thanks ! ! !
Advance wish you a merry Christmas .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.coolforsale.com/ [coolforsale.com]
Dear ladies and gentlemen Hello, In order to meet Christmas,

Site launched Christmas spree, welcome new and old customers

come to participate in the  there are unexpected surprises,

look forward to your arrival.
Only this site have this

treatmentOur goal is "Best quality, Best reputation , Best

services".
Your satisfaction is our main pursue.
You can find

the best products from us, meeting your different needs.
Ladies and Gentlemen  weicome  to  my

coolforsale.com.Here,there  are   the   most   fashion

products .
Pass by but don't   miss  it.Select  your  favorite

clothing!
Welcome  to come  next   time !
Thank you!
http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76 [coolforsale.com] (Tracksuit w)
ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket,
Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33
Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35
Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&amp;g) $35
Tshirts (Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste) $16
free shipping
Thanks!!!
Advance wish you a merry Christmas.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30232810</id>
	<title>Re:Whether, not weather</title>
	<author>mattack2</author>
	<datestamp>1257172860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>*Regardless* of whether I have good reception or crappy reception, I want to watch something I Tivoed.. even if just paused for 15 minutes to avoid the ads for something I need to watch "close to live" (which is rare).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>* Regardless * of whether I have good reception or crappy reception , I want to watch something I Tivoed.. even if just paused for 15 minutes to avoid the ads for something I need to watch " close to live " ( which is rare ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>*Regardless* of whether I have good reception or crappy reception, I want to watch something I Tivoed.. even if just paused for 15 minutes to avoid the ads for something I need to watch "close to live" (which is rare).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231780</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231626</id>
	<title>Whether, not weather</title>
	<author>puppetman</author>
	<datestamp>1257163680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Rain has nothing to do with this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Rain has nothing to do with this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rain has nothing to do with this.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231662</id>
	<title>Block data collection</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257163980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>These days, is there anyone left who does NOT block all these data collection and tracking things?</p><p>The trouble is that they invent them fast enough that it's hard to keep up.  Web bugs, cross site scripts, I block everything I know about, but it takes a little bit of diligence to keep up with it.  And some, like TIVO, you can see coming a mile off, so are easy to never start using in the first place.</p><p>If we don't stick up for a shit-free internet, soon it will all be commercialized into uselessness.  TV 2.0!</p><p>Thankfully, unlike TV, it's in OUR hands, and it can only go to crap if we let it.  So just block attempts at tracking everyone's every move, and problem solved.</p><p>Yes, it takes a little bit of sacrifice.  But so does anything that's worth while.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>These days , is there anyone left who does NOT block all these data collection and tracking things ? The trouble is that they invent them fast enough that it 's hard to keep up .
Web bugs , cross site scripts , I block everything I know about , but it takes a little bit of diligence to keep up with it .
And some , like TIVO , you can see coming a mile off , so are easy to never start using in the first place.If we do n't stick up for a shit-free internet , soon it will all be commercialized into uselessness .
TV 2.0 ! Thankfully , unlike TV , it 's in OUR hands , and it can only go to crap if we let it .
So just block attempts at tracking everyone 's every move , and problem solved.Yes , it takes a little bit of sacrifice .
But so does anything that 's worth while .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These days, is there anyone left who does NOT block all these data collection and tracking things?The trouble is that they invent them fast enough that it's hard to keep up.
Web bugs, cross site scripts, I block everything I know about, but it takes a little bit of diligence to keep up with it.
And some, like TIVO, you can see coming a mile off, so are easy to never start using in the first place.If we don't stick up for a shit-free internet, soon it will all be commercialized into uselessness.
TV 2.0!Thankfully, unlike TV, it's in OUR hands, and it can only go to crap if we let it.
So just block attempts at tracking everyone's every move, and problem solved.Yes, it takes a little bit of sacrifice.
But so does anything that's worth while.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231798</id>
	<title>Re:Who the fuck still watches TV?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257165120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Seriously, who the fuck still watches TV?</p></div></blockquote><p>You do, and your Onion-esque attempts to pretend you don't aren't fooling anyone.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , who the fuck still watches TV ? You do , and your Onion-esque attempts to pretend you do n't are n't fooling anyone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, who the fuck still watches TV?You do, and your Onion-esque attempts to pretend you don't aren't fooling anyone.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231654</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30233152</id>
	<title>m&amp;od up</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257175740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>[idge.ne7]</htmltext>
<tokenext>[ idge.ne7 ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[idge.ne7]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231764</id>
	<title>Re:Who the fuck still watches TV?</title>
	<author>NoYob</author>
	<datestamp>1257164880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Seriously, who the fuck still watches TV? There hasn't been anything good on any channel for years now, not that there was much good on in the first place.</p></div><p>All your neighbors. TV has become a "necessity". I overheard a guy complaining about his cable being out. I quote, "My children haven't had TV in two weeks!" I really had to stifle a laugh. </p><p><div class="quote"><p>Go see a play at the local theater, watch a live band at a nearby pub, go for a walk, or read a book. Those are all much more enlightening and entertaining options.</p></div><p>Google will eventually have a system where as you enter the pub, you show your ID, and then that information will go into a database. Read a book? Google will collect the data from Visa and MC and AMEX to see what books you're reading and then use that data to market other shit to you. Local theater? Buy those ticket and well, you have to show your ID for pickup - again, data in the database. Live band? Show ID at the door and pay for those drink with your credit card? There you go.</p><p>It's not big brother. It's Google and other companies - Orwell was close. It's not the state that will spy (directly at least), it's going to be corporate American.</p><p>

The state will just buy the information and technically do nothing wrong.</p><p>Technology - making life better for all.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , who the fuck still watches TV ?
There has n't been anything good on any channel for years now , not that there was much good on in the first place.All your neighbors .
TV has become a " necessity " .
I overheard a guy complaining about his cable being out .
I quote , " My children have n't had TV in two weeks !
" I really had to stifle a laugh .
Go see a play at the local theater , watch a live band at a nearby pub , go for a walk , or read a book .
Those are all much more enlightening and entertaining options.Google will eventually have a system where as you enter the pub , you show your ID , and then that information will go into a database .
Read a book ?
Google will collect the data from Visa and MC and AMEX to see what books you 're reading and then use that data to market other shit to you .
Local theater ?
Buy those ticket and well , you have to show your ID for pickup - again , data in the database .
Live band ?
Show ID at the door and pay for those drink with your credit card ?
There you go.It 's not big brother .
It 's Google and other companies - Orwell was close .
It 's not the state that will spy ( directly at least ) , it 's going to be corporate American .
The state will just buy the information and technically do nothing wrong.Technology - making life better for all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, who the fuck still watches TV?
There hasn't been anything good on any channel for years now, not that there was much good on in the first place.All your neighbors.
TV has become a "necessity".
I overheard a guy complaining about his cable being out.
I quote, "My children haven't had TV in two weeks!
" I really had to stifle a laugh.
Go see a play at the local theater, watch a live band at a nearby pub, go for a walk, or read a book.
Those are all much more enlightening and entertaining options.Google will eventually have a system where as you enter the pub, you show your ID, and then that information will go into a database.
Read a book?
Google will collect the data from Visa and MC and AMEX to see what books you're reading and then use that data to market other shit to you.
Local theater?
Buy those ticket and well, you have to show your ID for pickup - again, data in the database.
Live band?
Show ID at the door and pay for those drink with your credit card?
There you go.It's not big brother.
It's Google and other companies - Orwell was close.
It's not the state that will spy (directly at least), it's going to be corporate American.
The state will just buy the information and technically do nothing wrong.Technology - making life better for all.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231654</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30232530</id>
	<title>Re:Weather they stop the ads?</title>
	<author>camperdave</author>
	<datestamp>1257170820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>...or a funny Geico ad<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</i> <br> <br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YdW47V5lPs" title="youtube.com">This one</a> [youtube.com] is my favorite.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...or a funny Geico ad : ) This one [ youtube.com ] is my favorite .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...or a funny Geico ad :)  
This one [youtube.com] is my favorite.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231650</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30232910</id>
	<title>Re:The choke hold of google</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257173640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tivo has been selling this data for years.  How is it wrong for Google to make it available to their advertisers, and how could they possibly correlate aggregate TV data to anything else they own?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tivo has been selling this data for years .
How is it wrong for Google to make it available to their advertisers , and how could they possibly correlate aggregate TV data to anything else they own ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tivo has been selling this data for years.
How is it wrong for Google to make it available to their advertisers, and how could they possibly correlate aggregate TV data to anything else they own?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30232288</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231894</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure 99\%</title>
	<author>Geoffrey.landis</author>
	<datestamp>1257166200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually, the commercials are the best part of TV.  They are innovative, have high production values, and basically all the stops are pulled out to make sure they're effective.
<p>The shows, on the other hand, are usually terrible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , the commercials are the best part of TV .
They are innovative , have high production values , and basically all the stops are pulled out to make sure they 're effective .
The shows , on the other hand , are usually terrible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, the commercials are the best part of TV.
They are innovative, have high production values, and basically all the stops are pulled out to make sure they're effective.
The shows, on the other hand, are usually terrible.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231648</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231648</id>
	<title>I'm sure 99\%</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1257163860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of Tivo users skip commercials. I'm sure the other 1\% either don't know they have Tivo, don't know how to use Tivo, or watch so much television that their mental capacity to understand the concept of skipping commercials has been severely damaged.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of Tivo users skip commercials .
I 'm sure the other 1 \ % either do n't know they have Tivo , do n't know how to use Tivo , or watch so much television that their mental capacity to understand the concept of skipping commercials has been severely damaged .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of Tivo users skip commercials.
I'm sure the other 1\% either don't know they have Tivo, don't know how to use Tivo, or watch so much television that their mental capacity to understand the concept of skipping commercials has been severely damaged.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30242792</id>
	<title>Re:Easily Fixed! (There's a business idea in this.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259259240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>TrackMeNot Firefox plug-in. It uses an rss feed of the New York Times front page to pull terms and search spam 5 different search engines, including Google.  It can be set to 10 a minute, 1 a minute, 1 an hour, etc.</p><p>I'm not the developer, just a fan.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>TrackMeNot Firefox plug-in .
It uses an rss feed of the New York Times front page to pull terms and search spam 5 different search engines , including Google .
It can be set to 10 a minute , 1 a minute , 1 an hour , etc.I 'm not the developer , just a fan .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TrackMeNot Firefox plug-in.
It uses an rss feed of the New York Times front page to pull terms and search spam 5 different search engines, including Google.
It can be set to 10 a minute, 1 a minute, 1 an hour, etc.I'm not the developer, just a fan.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30233790</id>
	<title>Get satellite TV.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257182760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With either Dish or DirectTV, there is no way for them to collect data on you but the boxes you put in your living room do all the same stuff: record tv, let you skip ahead, etc. The interface isn't as slick as TiVo but I can live with that.</p><p>DirectTV does have a phone cord that they encourage you to plug in (you need it for "on-demand" tv show purchasing) but I've left it unplugged for 4 years and I have no problems. I'm sure the unit tracks what I record, watch or listen to but that data doesn't get back to the mothership.</p><p>But if you've got Comcastic Internet and Comcastic TV so that you get a better price, well that better price is what you're selling your privacy to them for.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With either Dish or DirectTV , there is no way for them to collect data on you but the boxes you put in your living room do all the same stuff : record tv , let you skip ahead , etc .
The interface is n't as slick as TiVo but I can live with that.DirectTV does have a phone cord that they encourage you to plug in ( you need it for " on-demand " tv show purchasing ) but I 've left it unplugged for 4 years and I have no problems .
I 'm sure the unit tracks what I record , watch or listen to but that data does n't get back to the mothership.But if you 've got Comcastic Internet and Comcastic TV so that you get a better price , well that better price is what you 're selling your privacy to them for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With either Dish or DirectTV, there is no way for them to collect data on you but the boxes you put in your living room do all the same stuff: record tv, let you skip ahead, etc.
The interface isn't as slick as TiVo but I can live with that.DirectTV does have a phone cord that they encourage you to plug in (you need it for "on-demand" tv show purchasing) but I've left it unplugged for 4 years and I have no problems.
I'm sure the unit tracks what I record, watch or listen to but that data doesn't get back to the mothership.But if you've got Comcastic Internet and Comcastic TV so that you get a better price, well that better price is what you're selling your privacy to them for.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231832</id>
	<title>TiVo for 6 years now</title>
	<author>kheldan</author>
	<datestamp>1257165420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>If I was suddenly forced to watch commercials (i.e. no 30 second skip and/or no fast forward) I'd probably dump cable and just watch what I can get on Netflix instead. It would be sad though because there are down-times during the latter parts of my evenings when it's too early to go to bed but I'm too tired to do anything else and I want something passive and relatively low-bandwidth brainpower-wise to do in the meantime, and the few shows TiVo records for me are perfect for that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I was suddenly forced to watch commercials ( i.e .
no 30 second skip and/or no fast forward ) I 'd probably dump cable and just watch what I can get on Netflix instead .
It would be sad though because there are down-times during the latter parts of my evenings when it 's too early to go to bed but I 'm too tired to do anything else and I want something passive and relatively low-bandwidth brainpower-wise to do in the meantime , and the few shows TiVo records for me are perfect for that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I was suddenly forced to watch commercials (i.e.
no 30 second skip and/or no fast forward) I'd probably dump cable and just watch what I can get on Netflix instead.
It would be sad though because there are down-times during the latter parts of my evenings when it's too early to go to bed but I'm too tired to do anything else and I want something passive and relatively low-bandwidth brainpower-wise to do in the meantime, and the few shows TiVo records for me are perfect for that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231650</id>
	<title>Weather they stop the ads?</title>
	<author>Wrexs0ul</author>
	<datestamp>1257163860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The article outlines how this could be bad for Networks who cash in weather you watch the ad or not</p></div><p>They have ads there too? Sunny and a 50\% chance of Cialis?</p><p>I wonder when this arms race for our eyeballs will peak. I'm not angry with targeted ads, overall it makes for a smarter consumer when after a generation or two we learn to identify market-speak at the cost of the last company to the block's poorly-spent campaign. In the mean time there's a greater likelihood I'll chance across something that is actually valuable to me, or a funny Geico ad<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>-Matt</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The article outlines how this could be bad for Networks who cash in weather you watch the ad or notThey have ads there too ?
Sunny and a 50 \ % chance of Cialis ? I wonder when this arms race for our eyeballs will peak .
I 'm not angry with targeted ads , overall it makes for a smarter consumer when after a generation or two we learn to identify market-speak at the cost of the last company to the block 's poorly-spent campaign .
In the mean time there 's a greater likelihood I 'll chance across something that is actually valuable to me , or a funny Geico ad : ) -Matt</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The article outlines how this could be bad for Networks who cash in weather you watch the ad or notThey have ads there too?
Sunny and a 50\% chance of Cialis?I wonder when this arms race for our eyeballs will peak.
I'm not angry with targeted ads, overall it makes for a smarter consumer when after a generation or two we learn to identify market-speak at the cost of the last company to the block's poorly-spent campaign.
In the mean time there's a greater likelihood I'll chance across something that is actually valuable to me, or a funny Geico ad :)-Matt
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30232302</id>
	<title>Re:Who the fuck still watches TV?</title>
	<author>KraftDinner</author>
	<datestamp>1257168960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The first two suggestions you made are quite a bit more expensive than TV. The fact that I can get an "buffet" style service for $1 a day seems like a much better deal than paying for a one time event.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The first two suggestions you made are quite a bit more expensive than TV .
The fact that I can get an " buffet " style service for $ 1 a day seems like a much better deal than paying for a one time event .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The first two suggestions you made are quite a bit more expensive than TV.
The fact that I can get an "buffet" style service for $1 a day seems like a much better deal than paying for a one time event.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30232596</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure 99\%</title>
	<author>aplusjimages</author>
	<datestamp>1257171300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>well not all commercials

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T0WXJinLMA" title="youtube.com">Ask Gary</a> [youtube.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>well not all commercials Ask Gary [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>well not all commercials

Ask Gary [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30233294</id>
	<title>TROLL</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257177180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Pro6ect sbomewhere</htmltext>
<tokenext>Pro6ect sbomewhere</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pro6ect sbomewhere</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30233854</id>
	<title>Fewer commercials, no, but maybe...</title>
	<author>prograde</author>
	<datestamp>1257183660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The most likely outcome of this is that the networks will <b>finally</b> start an arms race on commercial avoidance strategies.
</p><p>I really don't get why it is that they still make all of the commercials exactly 30 seconds in length.  Ten years ago, I had a VCR with a button that would fast-forward 30 seconds and stop. </p><p>Today, MythTV does a darned good job of auto-flagging commercials, and then auto-skipping them for me.  <b>And</b> the default fast-forward time is that magical 30 seconds.  I haven't watched a commercial in years.   I mean, really, VCR manufacturers had it figured out a decade ago, and the networks haven't caught on yet!?!</p><p>(OK, if this post is what finally gives the networks a clue, then feel free to hunt me down.  I'd deserve it.)
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The most likely outcome of this is that the networks will finally start an arms race on commercial avoidance strategies .
I really do n't get why it is that they still make all of the commercials exactly 30 seconds in length .
Ten years ago , I had a VCR with a button that would fast-forward 30 seconds and stop .
Today , MythTV does a darned good job of auto-flagging commercials , and then auto-skipping them for me .
And the default fast-forward time is that magical 30 seconds .
I have n't watched a commercial in years .
I mean , really , VCR manufacturers had it figured out a decade ago , and the networks have n't caught on yet ! ? !
( OK , if this post is what finally gives the networks a clue , then feel free to hunt me down .
I 'd deserve it .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The most likely outcome of this is that the networks will finally start an arms race on commercial avoidance strategies.
I really don't get why it is that they still make all of the commercials exactly 30 seconds in length.
Ten years ago, I had a VCR with a button that would fast-forward 30 seconds and stop.
Today, MythTV does a darned good job of auto-flagging commercials, and then auto-skipping them for me.
And the default fast-forward time is that magical 30 seconds.
I haven't watched a commercial in years.
I mean, really, VCR manufacturers had it figured out a decade ago, and the networks haven't caught on yet!?!
(OK, if this post is what finally gives the networks a clue, then feel free to hunt me down.
I'd deserve it.
)
</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30232010</id>
	<title>Re:Weather they stop the ads?</title>
	<author>Dysphoric1</author>
	<datestamp>1257167040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>In the mean time there's a greater likelihood I'll chance across something that is actually valuable to me</p></div><p>In all honesty, I don't think I have ever seen an ad that was of value to me. Maybe I'm just weird or something, but I start with a need and then seek out a solution in a product or service to fulfill it, usually through reviews and such. I never see an ad and then suddenly decide I need the product or service.</p><p>Never mind. I forgot about porn.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the mean time there 's a greater likelihood I 'll chance across something that is actually valuable to meIn all honesty , I do n't think I have ever seen an ad that was of value to me .
Maybe I 'm just weird or something , but I start with a need and then seek out a solution in a product or service to fulfill it , usually through reviews and such .
I never see an ad and then suddenly decide I need the product or service.Never mind .
I forgot about porn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the mean time there's a greater likelihood I'll chance across something that is actually valuable to meIn all honesty, I don't think I have ever seen an ad that was of value to me.
Maybe I'm just weird or something, but I start with a need and then seek out a solution in a product or service to fulfill it, usually through reviews and such.
I never see an ad and then suddenly decide I need the product or service.Never mind.
I forgot about porn.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30232348</id>
	<title>Actually...</title>
	<author>ivonic</author>
	<datestamp>1257169320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually it probably means advert placements for those demographics that skip ads become cheaper, whilst those that actually watch adverts become more expensive. Not a massive shift, but expect to see the cheap slots becoming less sophisticated, and open to ever-smaller companies, which could be a good thing.<br> <br>

Alternatively, maybe the ad-breaks for the skipping-demographics will get shorter, to discourage people from skipping, so ensuring they watch the bother to watch 1 advert that is on (rather than skipping all 20).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually it probably means advert placements for those demographics that skip ads become cheaper , whilst those that actually watch adverts become more expensive .
Not a massive shift , but expect to see the cheap slots becoming less sophisticated , and open to ever-smaller companies , which could be a good thing .
Alternatively , maybe the ad-breaks for the skipping-demographics will get shorter , to discourage people from skipping , so ensuring they watch the bother to watch 1 advert that is on ( rather than skipping all 20 ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually it probably means advert placements for those demographics that skip ads become cheaper, whilst those that actually watch adverts become more expensive.
Not a massive shift, but expect to see the cheap slots becoming less sophisticated, and open to ever-smaller companies, which could be a good thing.
Alternatively, maybe the ad-breaks for the skipping-demographics will get shorter, to discourage people from skipping, so ensuring they watch the bother to watch 1 advert that is on (rather than skipping all 20).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_2233224.30231980</id>
	<title>Re:Whether, not weather</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257166860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Rain has nothing to do with this.</p></div></blockquote><p>Some of us get our TV via satellite you insensitive clod!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Rain has nothing to do with this.Some of us get our TV via satellite you insensitive clod !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rain has nothing to do with this.Some of us get our TV via satellite you insensitive clod!
	</sentencetext>
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