<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_25_1940247</id>
	<title>Man Pleads Guilty To Selling Fake Chips To US Navy</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1259136120000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>itwbennett writes <i>"Neil Felahy of Newport Coast, California, has pleaded guilty to conspiracy and counterfeit-goods trafficking for his role in a <a href="http://www.itworld.com/government/86008/man-pleads-guilty-selling-fake-chips-us-navy">chip-counterfeiting scam</a>. Felahy, along with his wife and her brother, operated several microchip brokerage companies under a variety of names, including MVP Micro, Red Hat Distributors, Force-One Electronics and Pentagon Components. 'They would buy <a href="http://www.cybercrime.gov/felahyPlea.pdf">counterfeit chips from China</a> or else take legitimate chips, sand off the brand markings and melt the plastic casings with acid to make them appear to be of higher quality or a different brand,' the US Department of Justice said in a press release. The chips were then sold to Naval Sea Systems Command, the Washington, DC group responsible for maintaining the US Navy's ships and systems, as well as to an unnamed vacuum-cleaner manufacturer in the Midwest."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>itwbennett writes " Neil Felahy of Newport Coast , California , has pleaded guilty to conspiracy and counterfeit-goods trafficking for his role in a chip-counterfeiting scam .
Felahy , along with his wife and her brother , operated several microchip brokerage companies under a variety of names , including MVP Micro , Red Hat Distributors , Force-One Electronics and Pentagon Components .
'They would buy counterfeit chips from China or else take legitimate chips , sand off the brand markings and melt the plastic casings with acid to make them appear to be of higher quality or a different brand, ' the US Department of Justice said in a press release .
The chips were then sold to Naval Sea Systems Command , the Washington , DC group responsible for maintaining the US Navy 's ships and systems , as well as to an unnamed vacuum-cleaner manufacturer in the Midwest .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>itwbennett writes "Neil Felahy of Newport Coast, California, has pleaded guilty to conspiracy and counterfeit-goods trafficking for his role in a chip-counterfeiting scam.
Felahy, along with his wife and her brother, operated several microchip brokerage companies under a variety of names, including MVP Micro, Red Hat Distributors, Force-One Electronics and Pentagon Components.
'They would buy counterfeit chips from China or else take legitimate chips, sand off the brand markings and melt the plastic casings with acid to make them appear to be of higher quality or a different brand,' the US Department of Justice said in a press release.
The chips were then sold to Naval Sea Systems Command, the Washington, DC group responsible for maintaining the US Navy's ships and systems, as well as to an unnamed vacuum-cleaner manufacturer in the Midwest.
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</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230438</id>
	<title>Re:Ron Paul!!!</title>
	<author>FooAtWFU</author>
	<datestamp>1257155640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's Gresham's Law in action: Bad money drives out the good (or in this case, bad components). If no one can tell the difference, then people will substitute inferior products, and pocket the extra money (or use it to expand at the expense of those suppliers with superior products who can't make the same margins).<p>
I wouldn't say it's "how the free market is supposed to work" as that implies something positive and normative to be pursued; it's just an <i>aspect</i> of the free market (and many less-than-free markets which might seek to replace them, cf. nail quotas in Soviet Russia) that ultimately must be addressed by fixing the information imbalances.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's Gresham 's Law in action : Bad money drives out the good ( or in this case , bad components ) .
If no one can tell the difference , then people will substitute inferior products , and pocket the extra money ( or use it to expand at the expense of those suppliers with superior products who ca n't make the same margins ) .
I would n't say it 's " how the free market is supposed to work " as that implies something positive and normative to be pursued ; it 's just an aspect of the free market ( and many less-than-free markets which might seek to replace them , cf .
nail quotas in Soviet Russia ) that ultimately must be addressed by fixing the information imbalances .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's Gresham's Law in action: Bad money drives out the good (or in this case, bad components).
If no one can tell the difference, then people will substitute inferior products, and pocket the extra money (or use it to expand at the expense of those suppliers with superior products who can't make the same margins).
I wouldn't say it's "how the free market is supposed to work" as that implies something positive and normative to be pursued; it's just an aspect of the free market (and many less-than-free markets which might seek to replace them, cf.
nail quotas in Soviet Russia) that ultimately must be addressed by fixing the information imbalances.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230022</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230792</id>
	<title>Re:Treason</title>
	<author>LWATCDR</author>
	<datestamp>1257157920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nope. It is fraud at best.  You would have to show intent beyond greed for treason.<br>Also fraud will be much easier to prove in court and get a conviction for.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nope .
It is fraud at best .
You would have to show intent beyond greed for treason.Also fraud will be much easier to prove in court and get a conviction for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nope.
It is fraud at best.
You would have to show intent beyond greed for treason.Also fraud will be much easier to prove in court and get a conviction for.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229886</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230336</id>
	<title>Re:we still make vacumm cleaners?</title>
	<author>Z00L00K</author>
	<datestamp>1257155100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At least a vacuum cleaner that dies won't kill anybody.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At least a vacuum cleaner that dies wo n't kill anybody .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least a vacuum cleaner that dies won't kill anybody.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229854</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230724</id>
	<title>Mission Accomplished</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257157320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>What about that guy that sold them the fake "Mission Accomplished" banner for their aircraft carrier?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What about that guy that sold them the fake " Mission Accomplished " banner for their aircraft carrier ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about that guy that sold them the fake "Mission Accomplished" banner for their aircraft carrier?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30231938</id>
	<title>I know it makes me a horrible person for saying...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257166440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, someone had to point this out and take the flack for it, and since I don't care about being called a horrible, prejudiced fuck and also given that I have excellent karma and can afford to take the hit to it that this will inevitably cause...
<br> <br> <br>

If the US government had the policy of taking a closer look at or applying higher degrees of verification and checking (or outright denying positions of significant responsibility) to those who either are known to be Muslim or have a name that would tend to indicate so, then this would not have happened.  Also, the Fort Hood incident would not have happened.  Not to mention, a few other incidents.
<br> <br>

Now start telling me how awful I am, how 95\% of Muslims don't support that, how profiling is wrong and how you are a Muslim and don't support that kind of thing and never would (and furthermore will bomb my house if I continue to say you ever would support violence or dishonesty.)   For what it is worth, the statement is factually true.
<br> <br>
(Oh yeah, and in case you missed it, I didn't say that the US *should* institute such a policy, only that a 13 troops from Fort Hood would be alive and a lot of counterfeit chips wouldn't be in military hardware)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , someone had to point this out and take the flack for it , and since I do n't care about being called a horrible , prejudiced fuck and also given that I have excellent karma and can afford to take the hit to it that this will inevitably cause.. . If the US government had the policy of taking a closer look at or applying higher degrees of verification and checking ( or outright denying positions of significant responsibility ) to those who either are known to be Muslim or have a name that would tend to indicate so , then this would not have happened .
Also , the Fort Hood incident would not have happened .
Not to mention , a few other incidents .
Now start telling me how awful I am , how 95 \ % of Muslims do n't support that , how profiling is wrong and how you are a Muslim and do n't support that kind of thing and never would ( and furthermore will bomb my house if I continue to say you ever would support violence or dishonesty .
) For what it is worth , the statement is factually true .
( Oh yeah , and in case you missed it , I did n't say that the US * should * institute such a policy , only that a 13 troops from Fort Hood would be alive and a lot of counterfeit chips would n't be in military hardware )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, someone had to point this out and take the flack for it, and since I don't care about being called a horrible, prejudiced fuck and also given that I have excellent karma and can afford to take the hit to it that this will inevitably cause...
  

If the US government had the policy of taking a closer look at or applying higher degrees of verification and checking (or outright denying positions of significant responsibility) to those who either are known to be Muslim or have a name that would tend to indicate so, then this would not have happened.
Also, the Fort Hood incident would not have happened.
Not to mention, a few other incidents.
Now start telling me how awful I am, how 95\% of Muslims don't support that, how profiling is wrong and how you are a Muslim and don't support that kind of thing and never would (and furthermore will bomb my house if I continue to say you ever would support violence or dishonesty.
)   For what it is worth, the statement is factually true.
(Oh yeah, and in case you missed it, I didn't say that the US *should* institute such a policy, only that a 13 troops from Fort Hood would be alive and a lot of counterfeit chips wouldn't be in military hardware)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230450</id>
	<title>Re:Ron Paul!!!</title>
	<author>Jackie\_Chan\_Fan</author>
	<datestamp>1257155700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The government is not at fault. The owner of those businesses is. The government looked for a seller within our free market, and that seller conspired to fool the government.</p><p>If anything, this says more negative about the free market, and the willingness of people to do illegal things out of selfish greed.</p><p>The government is the people. It is for the people, by the people. If the government is so "fucked up" as you say it is, than perhaps its just a reflection of our citizens.</p><p>We need to be BETTER PEOPLE for ourselves, and our fellow Americans.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The government is not at fault .
The owner of those businesses is .
The government looked for a seller within our free market , and that seller conspired to fool the government.If anything , this says more negative about the free market , and the willingness of people to do illegal things out of selfish greed.The government is the people .
It is for the people , by the people .
If the government is so " fucked up " as you say it is , than perhaps its just a reflection of our citizens.We need to be BETTER PEOPLE for ourselves , and our fellow Americans .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The government is not at fault.
The owner of those businesses is.
The government looked for a seller within our free market, and that seller conspired to fool the government.If anything, this says more negative about the free market, and the willingness of people to do illegal things out of selfish greed.The government is the people.
It is for the people, by the people.
If the government is so "fucked up" as you say it is, than perhaps its just a reflection of our citizens.We need to be BETTER PEOPLE for ourselves, and our fellow Americans.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229914</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230004</id>
	<title>MX missile guidance systems from Radio Shack</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257153300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Way back there are accusations of ots parts from a retail radio shack that ended up in MX missile guidance systems. And it wasn't some mom and pop shop. It was one of the big boys.</p><p>Maybe someone with knowledge would know how to fake a chip upgrade that would pass inspection. I suspect that not much auditing is going on in the input side and contractors big and small are exploiting the incompetence of the govt watchdogs. If they're even there at all.</p><p>It makes you wonder how much of this sub milspec stuff is out there in critical areas.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Way back there are accusations of ots parts from a retail radio shack that ended up in MX missile guidance systems .
And it was n't some mom and pop shop .
It was one of the big boys.Maybe someone with knowledge would know how to fake a chip upgrade that would pass inspection .
I suspect that not much auditing is going on in the input side and contractors big and small are exploiting the incompetence of the govt watchdogs .
If they 're even there at all.It makes you wonder how much of this sub milspec stuff is out there in critical areas .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Way back there are accusations of ots parts from a retail radio shack that ended up in MX missile guidance systems.
And it wasn't some mom and pop shop.
It was one of the big boys.Maybe someone with knowledge would know how to fake a chip upgrade that would pass inspection.
I suspect that not much auditing is going on in the input side and contractors big and small are exploiting the incompetence of the govt watchdogs.
If they're even there at all.It makes you wonder how much of this sub milspec stuff is out there in critical areas.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30231928</id>
	<title>AFNA</title>
	<author>AllynM</author>
	<datestamp>1257166380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>NSSC = Naval Submarine Support Center<br>Naval Sea Systems Command = NAVSEA</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>NSSC = Naval Submarine Support CenterNaval Sea Systems Command = NAVSEA</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NSSC = Naval Submarine Support CenterNaval Sea Systems Command = NAVSEA</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229982</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30231404</id>
	<title>Cookies, actually.</title>
	<author>d474</author>
	<datestamp>1257162120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Chips Ahoy!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Chips Ahoy !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Chips Ahoy!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229984</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230018</id>
	<title>Re:Ron Paul!!!</title>
	<author>Katchu</author>
	<datestamp>1257153360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thank you Neil Felahy of Newport Coast, California for reminding us to trust you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thank you Neil Felahy of Newport Coast , California for reminding us to trust you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thank you Neil Felahy of Newport Coast, California for reminding us to trust you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229914</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229956</id>
	<title>Re:Treason</title>
	<author>NiceGeek</author>
	<datestamp>1257153120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/article03/" title="findlaw.com">http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/article03/</a> [findlaw.com]</p><p>"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort"</p><p>Ripping them off isn't treason.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/article03/ [ findlaw.com ] " Treason against the United States , shall consist only in levying War against them , or in adhering to their Enemies , giving them Aid and Comfort " Ripping them off is n't treason .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/article03/ [findlaw.com]"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort"Ripping them off isn't treason.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229886</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229984</id>
	<title>Chips..?</title>
	<author>Burning1</author>
	<datestamp>1257153240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Chips? Chips!?</p><p>Common, this is Slashdot. Chips? The technical jargon in the summary is horribly confusing.</p><p>For clarity, could we please use a more generic term, such as 'computer thingamajiggy?'</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Chips ?
Chips ! ? Common , this is Slashdot .
Chips ? The technical jargon in the summary is horribly confusing.For clarity , could we please use a more generic term , such as 'computer thingamajiggy ?
'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Chips?
Chips!?Common, this is Slashdot.
Chips? The technical jargon in the summary is horribly confusing.For clarity, could we please use a more generic term, such as 'computer thingamajiggy?
'</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30233946</id>
	<title>Re:HOW???</title>
	<author>Waveguide04</author>
	<datestamp>1257184740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Damn.... Good thing I stocked up on those Z80 chips back in the late 70's/early 80's. Those are going to be GOLD MINE!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Damn.... Good thing I stocked up on those Z80 chips back in the late 70 's/early 80 's .
Those are going to be GOLD MINE !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Damn.... Good thing I stocked up on those Z80 chips back in the late 70's/early 80's.
Those are going to be GOLD MINE!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230542</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229886</id>
	<title>Treason</title>
	<author>koan</author>
	<datestamp>1257152760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You know the penalty.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You know the penalty .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know the penalty.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230106</id>
	<title>Re:Ron Paul!!!</title>
	<author>h4rr4r</author>
	<datestamp>1257153900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Was it not a private enterprise that sold these fake chips?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Was it not a private enterprise that sold these fake chips ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Was it not a private enterprise that sold these fake chips?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229914</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30233196</id>
	<title>Espionage?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257176340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What about the espionage implications here?  I mean, the chips are from China, right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What about the espionage implications here ?
I mean , the chips are from China , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about the espionage implications here?
I mean, the chips are from China, right?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229876</id>
	<title>Amusement du jour:</title>
	<author>migla</author>
	<datestamp>1257152760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm imagining someone selling the Navy fake ships.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm imagining someone selling the Navy fake ships .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm imagining someone selling the Navy fake ships.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230246</id>
	<title>Re:Treason</title>
	<author>couchslug</author>
	<datestamp>1257154560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Selling fake/incorrect components should be prosecuted as sabotage, because defective components can degrade vital systems and cause casualties.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Selling fake/incorrect components should be prosecuted as sabotage , because defective components can degrade vital systems and cause casualties .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Selling fake/incorrect components should be prosecuted as sabotage, because defective components can degrade vital systems and cause casualties.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229956</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230642</id>
	<title>Maybe you shouldn't bring charges against them</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1257156720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>just send a small group of highly trained men to pay them a visit.</p><p>to parphrase Hanover Fiste:<br>"They should be torn into little bitsy pieces and buried alive!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>just send a small group of highly trained men to pay them a visit.to parphrase Hanover Fiste : " They should be torn into little bitsy pieces and buried alive !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>just send a small group of highly trained men to pay them a visit.to parphrase Hanover Fiste:"They should be torn into little bitsy pieces and buried alive!
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30235740</id>
	<title>Re:Treason</title>
	<author>Bert64</author>
	<datestamp>1259238600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People have often committed treason for reasons of greed, it's not unheard of for people to sell their country out because an enemy promised them a large financial incentive. Greed is probably the worst reason and should be punished accordingly, other people may commit such crimes because they are being blackmailed or threatened.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People have often committed treason for reasons of greed , it 's not unheard of for people to sell their country out because an enemy promised them a large financial incentive .
Greed is probably the worst reason and should be punished accordingly , other people may commit such crimes because they are being blackmailed or threatened .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People have often committed treason for reasons of greed, it's not unheard of for people to sell their country out because an enemy promised them a large financial incentive.
Greed is probably the worst reason and should be punished accordingly, other people may commit such crimes because they are being blackmailed or threatened.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230792</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230950</id>
	<title>Re:we still make vacumm cleaners?</title>
	<author>dwiget001</author>
	<datestamp>1257158940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait, if this is the case, then this would be a real "blow" to the operation of U.S. Navy ships in general.</p><p>That really "sucks"!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait , if this is the case , then this would be a real " blow " to the operation of U.S. Navy ships in general.That really " sucks " !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait, if this is the case, then this would be a real "blow" to the operation of U.S. Navy ships in general.That really "sucks"!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229982</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230548</id>
	<title>Re:Treason</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1257156180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would say selling fake chips used in military vehicles is aiding the enemy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would say selling fake chips used in military vehicles is aiding the enemy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would say selling fake chips used in military vehicles is aiding the enemy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229956</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30233122</id>
	<title>Exit strategy?</title>
	<author>Cur8or</author>
	<datestamp>1257175500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can understand the vacuum company, but try to dupe the Navy?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can understand the vacuum company , but try to dupe the Navy ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can understand the vacuum company, but try to dupe the Navy?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230038</id>
	<title>Re:Ron Paul!!!</title>
	<author>omnichad</author>
	<datestamp>1257153480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since when did they need real money from us?  They either print their own or borrow it from China.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since when did they need real money from us ?
They either print their own or borrow it from China .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since when did they need real money from us?
They either print their own or borrow it from China.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229914</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229954</id>
	<title>Balls</title>
	<author>SmallFurryCreature</author>
	<datestamp>1257153120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Scamming someone who can answer the question, "you and what army". Oh okay, so their answer is "not army, marines" but still. Takes guts.
</p><p>And with the US being involved in two wars, I think the sentence for this might actually be a cigarette, against a nice sunny wall. Blindfold optional.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Scamming someone who can answer the question , " you and what army " .
Oh okay , so their answer is " not army , marines " but still .
Takes guts .
And with the US being involved in two wars , I think the sentence for this might actually be a cigarette , against a nice sunny wall .
Blindfold optional .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Scamming someone who can answer the question, "you and what army".
Oh okay, so their answer is "not army, marines" but still.
Takes guts.
And with the US being involved in two wars, I think the sentence for this might actually be a cigarette, against a nice sunny wall.
Blindfold optional.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229982</id>
	<title>Re:we still make vacumm cleaners?</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1257153180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The chips were then sold to Naval Sea Systems Command, the Washington, D.C., group responsible for maintaining the US Navy's ships and systems, as well as an unnamed vacuum-cleaner manufacturer in the Midwest.</p></div><p>Wait wait wait...</p><p>Were the chips sold to both the NSSC and a Vacuum-cleaner manufacturer -</p><p>Or is the NSSC responsible for maintaining the US Navy's ships, as well as a Vacuum-cleaner manufacturer?</p><p>I think the ambiguity is amusing.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The chips were then sold to Naval Sea Systems Command , the Washington , D.C. , group responsible for maintaining the US Navy 's ships and systems , as well as an unnamed vacuum-cleaner manufacturer in the Midwest.Wait wait wait...Were the chips sold to both the NSSC and a Vacuum-cleaner manufacturer -Or is the NSSC responsible for maintaining the US Navy 's ships , as well as a Vacuum-cleaner manufacturer ? I think the ambiguity is amusing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The chips were then sold to Naval Sea Systems Command, the Washington, D.C., group responsible for maintaining the US Navy's ships and systems, as well as an unnamed vacuum-cleaner manufacturer in the Midwest.Wait wait wait...Were the chips sold to both the NSSC and a Vacuum-cleaner manufacturer -Or is the NSSC responsible for maintaining the US Navy's ships, as well as a Vacuum-cleaner manufacturer?I think the ambiguity is amusing.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229854</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230304</id>
	<title>Re:Amusement du jour:</title>
	<author>The Grim Reefer2</author>
	<datestamp>1257154920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm imagining someone selling the Navy fake ships.</p></div><p>I was thinking that someone had sold them Pringles.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm imagining someone selling the Navy fake ships.I was thinking that someone had sold them Pringles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm imagining someone selling the Navy fake ships.I was thinking that someone had sold them Pringles.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229876</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30231050</id>
	<title>Re:Amusement du jour:</title>
	<author>AHuxley</author>
	<datestamp>1257159540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They did via the US Coast Guard's Deepwater <a href="http://www.cryptome.org/deepwater/deepwater.htm" title="cryptome.org">http://www.cryptome.org/deepwater/deepwater.htm</a> [cryptome.org]<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)<br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>..."ships that were delivered being the eight leaking cutters"</htmltext>
<tokenext>They did via the US Coast Guard 's Deepwater http : //www.cryptome.org/deepwater/deepwater.htm [ cryptome.org ] : ) ... " ships that were delivered being the eight leaking cutters "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They did via the US Coast Guard's Deepwater http://www.cryptome.org/deepwater/deepwater.htm [cryptome.org] :) ..."ships that were delivered being the eight leaking cutters"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229876</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30238626</id>
	<title>Re:we still make vacuum cleaners?</title>
	<author>nsaspook</author>
	<datestamp>1259263800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We still make damn good ones. Say you need a vacuum for cleaning up ASH3 waste inside a semiconductor plant.<br>Nilfisk has one and it's only $5000.</p><p><a href="http://www.nilfiskcfm.com/vacuum-applications/electronics-semiconductors.aspx" title="nilfiskcfm.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.nilfiskcfm.com/vacuum-applications/electronics-semiconductors.aspx</a> [nilfiskcfm.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We still make damn good ones .
Say you need a vacuum for cleaning up ASH3 waste inside a semiconductor plant.Nilfisk has one and it 's only $ 5000.http : //www.nilfiskcfm.com/vacuum-applications/electronics-semiconductors.aspx [ nilfiskcfm.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We still make damn good ones.
Say you need a vacuum for cleaning up ASH3 waste inside a semiconductor plant.Nilfisk has one and it's only $5000.http://www.nilfiskcfm.com/vacuum-applications/electronics-semiconductors.aspx [nilfiskcfm.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229854</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230458</id>
	<title>Re:Seriously?</title>
	<author>Lally Singh</author>
	<datestamp>1257155760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've heard some pretty amazing government fraud stories.  The best so far is a guy just making a bill in Excel and sending it to the Navy.  They ended up paying $3 mil before catching him.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've heard some pretty amazing government fraud stories .
The best so far is a guy just making a bill in Excel and sending it to the Navy .
They ended up paying $ 3 mil before catching him .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've heard some pretty amazing government fraud stories.
The best so far is a guy just making a bill in Excel and sending it to the Navy.
They ended up paying $3 mil before catching him.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229892</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230744</id>
	<title>Re:we still make vacumm cleaners?</title>
	<author>nomorecwrd</author>
	<datestamp>1257157380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>So... nobody else thought that the so called "Midwest vacuum cleaner manufacturer" could be a cover for the CIA or NHS?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So... nobody else thought that the so called " Midwest vacuum cleaner manufacturer " could be a cover for the CIA or NHS ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So... nobody else thought that the so called "Midwest vacuum cleaner manufacturer" could be a cover for the CIA or NHS?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230336</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30234086</id>
	<title>Oh god, those fake company names</title>
	<author>Zangief</author>
	<datestamp>1257186240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Pentagon Components".</p><p>That must have fooled some guy at the navy thinking he was buying parts to another branch of the government?!</p><p>What's next? Not-counterfeit-R-Us?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Pentagon Components " .That must have fooled some guy at the navy thinking he was buying parts to another branch of the government ?
! What 's next ?
Not-counterfeit-R-Us ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Pentagon Components".That must have fooled some guy at the navy thinking he was buying parts to another branch of the government?
!What's next?
Not-counterfeit-R-Us?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30231920</id>
	<title>We were burnt as well</title>
	<author>aspelling</author>
	<datestamp>1257166320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In 2006-2007 it was a problem to get many parts in the reasonable quality - flash, op-amps, multiplexors.<br>So we bought a few reels from the second-hand distributor.<br>As a result flash marked as 32Mb was 2Mb inside, op-amps weren't up to the specs (manufacturer confirm that they were made of written-off dyes), multiplexors were sold as a particular brand with advanced features while indeed were jelly beans for $0.10 a piece.<br>Thankfully we were able to rework boards before products hit the consumer market.<br>That was a good lesson for us to never use Chinese distributors for parts</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In 2006-2007 it was a problem to get many parts in the reasonable quality - flash , op-amps , multiplexors.So we bought a few reels from the second-hand distributor.As a result flash marked as 32Mb was 2Mb inside , op-amps were n't up to the specs ( manufacturer confirm that they were made of written-off dyes ) , multiplexors were sold as a particular brand with advanced features while indeed were jelly beans for $ 0.10 a piece.Thankfully we were able to rework boards before products hit the consumer market.That was a good lesson for us to never use Chinese distributors for parts</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In 2006-2007 it was a problem to get many parts in the reasonable quality - flash, op-amps, multiplexors.So we bought a few reels from the second-hand distributor.As a result flash marked as 32Mb was 2Mb inside, op-amps weren't up to the specs (manufacturer confirm that they were made of written-off dyes), multiplexors were sold as a particular brand with advanced features while indeed were jelly beans for $0.10 a piece.Thankfully we were able to rework boards before products hit the consumer market.That was a good lesson for us to never use Chinese distributors for parts</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30232074</id>
	<title>Re:Chips..?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257167640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously, who thought of that word and applied it to deep fried sticks of potato..<br>And why the hell are the thin crispy slices that come in packets called chips too?<br>Now they are making them out of silicon too?? You can't eat silicon!!</p><p>English language has morphed into shite.</p><p>Suggestions for improvements:<br>Give words one (standardized) meaning, and one meaning only. Come on, It's fun to make and learn new words..<br>Get rid of all silent letters.<br>Spell things as they sound.<br>Differentiate between the letters G &amp; J. G is hard, J is soft.<br>Pronounce the letter C as ch, and get rid of the ch combination.<br>Introduce a new single character for the sh sound.<br>Kill PH.. F works fine.<br>Stop using Y as a vowel.<br>Call W something other than double-U.. seriously how do you spell vacuum out loud?<br>Give the vowels some standardized accents instead of vowel-combinations to convey better and easier pronounciation.<br>Get rid of any other double letters where they are not needed.<br>Destroy all mobile phones with number only keypads. Teach kids to type AND spell.</p><p>Bring on the English language revolution.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , who thought of that word and applied it to deep fried sticks of potato..And why the hell are the thin crispy slices that come in packets called chips too ? Now they are making them out of silicon too ? ?
You ca n't eat silicon !
! English language has morphed into shite.Suggestions for improvements : Give words one ( standardized ) meaning , and one meaning only .
Come on , It 's fun to make and learn new words..Get rid of all silent letters.Spell things as they sound.Differentiate between the letters G &amp; J. G is hard , J is soft.Pronounce the letter C as ch , and get rid of the ch combination.Introduce a new single character for the sh sound.Kill PH.. F works fine.Stop using Y as a vowel.Call W something other than double-U.. seriously how do you spell vacuum out loud ? Give the vowels some standardized accents instead of vowel-combinations to convey better and easier pronounciation.Get rid of any other double letters where they are not needed.Destroy all mobile phones with number only keypads .
Teach kids to type AND spell.Bring on the English language revolution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, who thought of that word and applied it to deep fried sticks of potato..And why the hell are the thin crispy slices that come in packets called chips too?Now they are making them out of silicon too??
You can't eat silicon!
!English language has morphed into shite.Suggestions for improvements:Give words one (standardized) meaning, and one meaning only.
Come on, It's fun to make and learn new words..Get rid of all silent letters.Spell things as they sound.Differentiate between the letters G &amp; J. G is hard, J is soft.Pronounce the letter C as ch, and get rid of the ch combination.Introduce a new single character for the sh sound.Kill PH.. F works fine.Stop using Y as a vowel.Call W something other than double-U.. seriously how do you spell vacuum out loud?Give the vowels some standardized accents instead of vowel-combinations to convey better and easier pronounciation.Get rid of any other double letters where they are not needed.Destroy all mobile phones with number only keypads.
Teach kids to type AND spell.Bring on the English language revolution.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229984</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30234398</id>
	<title>Re:we still make vacumm cleaners?</title>
	<author>hardwarefreak</author>
	<datestamp>1257191220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The vacuum cleaner manufacturer is actually named Noiseless Sucking Appliances.</p></div><p>You mean No Such Appliance.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The vacuum cleaner manufacturer is actually named Noiseless Sucking Appliances.You mean No Such Appliance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The vacuum cleaner manufacturer is actually named Noiseless Sucking Appliances.You mean No Such Appliance.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230820</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230382</id>
	<title>Re:Ron Paul!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257155280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, where do they get off thinking about defense of the homeland, disaster relief, and caring about the welfare of children that can't take care of themselves.</p><p>The nerve!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , where do they get off thinking about defense of the homeland , disaster relief , and caring about the welfare of children that ca n't take care of themselves.The nerve !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, where do they get off thinking about defense of the homeland, disaster relief, and caring about the welfare of children that can't take care of themselves.The nerve!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229914</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230190</id>
	<title>Re:HOW???</title>
	<author>Chris Mattern</author>
	<datestamp>1257154260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.donhq.navy.mil/OSBP/marketing/index.html" title="navy.mil">Here's how.</a> [navy.mil]  All government procurement has special programs for buying from small business, and in fact are required to spend a certain percentage at small businesses.  Congress mandates it, 'cause it makes good press with the voters.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's how .
[ navy.mil ] All government procurement has special programs for buying from small business , and in fact are required to spend a certain percentage at small businesses .
Congress mandates it , 'cause it makes good press with the voters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's how.
[navy.mil]  All government procurement has special programs for buying from small business, and in fact are required to spend a certain percentage at small businesses.
Congress mandates it, 'cause it makes good press with the voters.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230028</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30231596</id>
	<title>Re:Balls</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257163380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And with the US being involved in two wars</p></div><p>Drugs and terrorism? I'm not sure if those count.</p><p>Constant occupation of hostile areas isn't usually counted as waging war, even if those areas have freedom fighters.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And with the US being involved in two warsDrugs and terrorism ?
I 'm not sure if those count.Constant occupation of hostile areas is n't usually counted as waging war , even if those areas have freedom fighters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And with the US being involved in two warsDrugs and terrorism?
I'm not sure if those count.Constant occupation of hostile areas isn't usually counted as waging war, even if those areas have freedom fighters.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229954</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230532</id>
	<title>Re:we still make vacumm cleaners?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257156120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>At least a vacuum cleaner that dies won't kill anybody.</p></div></blockquote><p>Yeah, if our targeting information was off and missile fell into the sea instead of hitting a house somewhere...oh, wait. </p><p>Really,  how many did the Navy buy? When we take deliveries we don't pay until we've tested that we've gotten what we've paid for and that's written into our purchase contracts.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>At least a vacuum cleaner that dies wo n't kill anybody.Yeah , if our targeting information was off and missile fell into the sea instead of hitting a house somewhere...oh , wait .
Really , how many did the Navy buy ?
When we take deliveries we do n't pay until we 've tested that we 've gotten what we 've paid for and that 's written into our purchase contracts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least a vacuum cleaner that dies won't kill anybody.Yeah, if our targeting information was off and missile fell into the sea instead of hitting a house somewhere...oh, wait.
Really,  how many did the Navy buy?
When we take deliveries we don't pay until we've tested that we've gotten what we've paid for and that's written into our purchase contracts.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230336</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230022</id>
	<title>Re:Ron Paul!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257153360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't there some confusion here?  This is the free market at work; if it wasn't, the Navy would have their own fabs and employ wafer process techs as well as sailors and airplane mechanics.  This is outside the brief of the government, especially the Navy, hence the government buying the fake chips from a private contractor.  They didn't do enough due diligence and got burned -- isn't that what's supposed to happen when there's an information imbalance in a market?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't there some confusion here ?
This is the free market at work ; if it was n't , the Navy would have their own fabs and employ wafer process techs as well as sailors and airplane mechanics .
This is outside the brief of the government , especially the Navy , hence the government buying the fake chips from a private contractor .
They did n't do enough due diligence and got burned -- is n't that what 's supposed to happen when there 's an information imbalance in a market ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't there some confusion here?
This is the free market at work; if it wasn't, the Navy would have their own fabs and employ wafer process techs as well as sailors and airplane mechanics.
This is outside the brief of the government, especially the Navy, hence the government buying the fake chips from a private contractor.
They didn't do enough due diligence and got burned -- isn't that what's supposed to happen when there's an information imbalance in a market?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229914</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30231150</id>
	<title>Re:Amusement du jour:</title>
	<author>Tuoqui</author>
	<datestamp>1257160560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yep I suppose we're gonna get a whole bunch of these 'Counterfeit Goods' stories hitting the media in the next year or so to make people think we absolutely positively must pass the ACTA treaty the RIAA/MPAA have been working on in secret.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep I suppose we 're gon na get a whole bunch of these 'Counterfeit Goods ' stories hitting the media in the next year or so to make people think we absolutely positively must pass the ACTA treaty the RIAA/MPAA have been working on in secret .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep I suppose we're gonna get a whole bunch of these 'Counterfeit Goods' stories hitting the media in the next year or so to make people think we absolutely positively must pass the ACTA treaty the RIAA/MPAA have been working on in secret.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229942</id>
	<title>Kntel</title>
	<author>feedayeen</author>
	<datestamp>1257153060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If "Kntel's" chips are just as good as Intel's, why should the military care?  If they don't, hold them responsible for the difference, financial loses if we had to order more and if anyone died because of malfunctions.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If " Kntel 's " chips are just as good as Intel 's , why should the military care ?
If they do n't , hold them responsible for the difference , financial loses if we had to order more and if anyone died because of malfunctions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If "Kntel's" chips are just as good as Intel's, why should the military care?
If they don't, hold them responsible for the difference, financial loses if we had to order more and if anyone died because of malfunctions.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30231820</id>
	<title>Rice vs Potato chips and anal leakage</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1257165300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Chips? Chips!?</i></p><p>Apparently he sold them to some Admiral as potato chips but just as the admiral opens the packet and starts gobbling them he immediately notices that they are RICE chips. Not only that but they have a warning about anal leakage on the packet. Who puts anal leakage on their chips!?!!!?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Chips ?
Chips ! ? Apparently he sold them to some Admiral as potato chips but just as the admiral opens the packet and starts gobbling them he immediately notices that they are RICE chips .
Not only that but they have a warning about anal leakage on the packet .
Who puts anal leakage on their chips ! ? ! ! !
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Chips?
Chips!?Apparently he sold them to some Admiral as potato chips but just as the admiral opens the packet and starts gobbling them he immediately notices that they are RICE chips.
Not only that but they have a warning about anal leakage on the packet.
Who puts anal leakage on their chips!?!!!
?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229984</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30237434</id>
	<title>Well I guess...</title>
	<author>hesaigo999ca</author>
	<datestamp>1259254260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well I guess it goes to show our home pc cpus are just as good as the military brand cpus.<br>I guess maybe thats why they now by ps3s for their cpu power cycles, instead of overpriced chips that are counterfeit anyways!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well I guess it goes to show our home pc cpus are just as good as the military brand cpus.I guess maybe thats why they now by ps3s for their cpu power cycles , instead of overpriced chips that are counterfeit anyways !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well I guess it goes to show our home pc cpus are just as good as the military brand cpus.I guess maybe thats why they now by ps3s for their cpu power cycles, instead of overpriced chips that are counterfeit anyways!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230288</id>
	<title>Re:Can someone please explain the crossover here?</title>
	<author>chord.wav</author>
	<datestamp>1257154860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's a typo. I'm sure they've meant "UNMANNED vacuum-cleaner" like the Roomba.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's a typo .
I 'm sure they 've meant " UNMANNED vacuum-cleaner " like the Roomba .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's a typo.
I'm sure they've meant "UNMANNED vacuum-cleaner" like the Roomba.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229950</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30231324</id>
	<title>Arthur Miller, anyone?</title>
	<author>BlueBoxSW.com</author>
	<datestamp>1257161640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All My Sons?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All My Sons ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All My Sons?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230994</id>
	<title>Re:Can someone please explain the crossover here?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257159120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The chips were then sold to Naval Sea Systems Command, the Washington, D.C., group responsible for maintaining the US Navy's ships and systems, as well as an <b>unnamed vacuum-cleaner manufacturer</b> in the Midwest.</p><p>Has our Navy gone from suck to blow?</p></div><p>No, but vacuum-cleaner manufacturer secrecy is very important. Terrorism and all.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The chips were then sold to Naval Sea Systems Command , the Washington , D.C. , group responsible for maintaining the US Navy 's ships and systems , as well as an unnamed vacuum-cleaner manufacturer in the Midwest.Has our Navy gone from suck to blow ? No , but vacuum-cleaner manufacturer secrecy is very important .
Terrorism and all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The chips were then sold to Naval Sea Systems Command, the Washington, D.C., group responsible for maintaining the US Navy's ships and systems, as well as an unnamed vacuum-cleaner manufacturer in the Midwest.Has our Navy gone from suck to blow?No, but vacuum-cleaner manufacturer secrecy is very important.
Terrorism and all.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229950</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230518</id>
	<title>Re:Seriously?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257155940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You thought you could get away with fraud while dealing with the government?</p><p>Might as well as try robbing a police station.</p></div><p>The trick was that not enough of the ill-gotten gains was winding up lining the pockets of government officials.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You thought you could get away with fraud while dealing with the government ? Might as well as try robbing a police station.The trick was that not enough of the ill-gotten gains was winding up lining the pockets of government officials .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You thought you could get away with fraud while dealing with the government?Might as well as try robbing a police station.The trick was that not enough of the ill-gotten gains was winding up lining the pockets of government officials.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229892</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30234196</id>
	<title>Re:we still make vacumm cleaners?</title>
	<author>SeaFox</author>
	<datestamp>1257187800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It can also be read as the unnamed vacuum-cleaner manufacturer was one of the things sold to Naval Sea Systems Command along with the chips.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It can also be read as the unnamed vacuum-cleaner manufacturer was one of the things sold to Naval Sea Systems Command along with the chips .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It can also be read as the unnamed vacuum-cleaner manufacturer was one of the things sold to Naval Sea Systems Command along with the chips.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229982</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230896</id>
	<title>Big Cojones</title>
	<author>repetty</author>
	<datestamp>1257158580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You've got to have pretty big cojones to cheat someone who can point missiles at your house.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 've got to have pretty big cojones to cheat someone who can point missiles at your house .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You've got to have pretty big cojones to cheat someone who can point missiles at your house.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230568</id>
	<title>This explains a lot</title>
	<author>kmankmankman2001</author>
	<datestamp>1257156240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>OK, now I have a better understanding of why my vacuum cleaner does such a lousy job . . . and why F-22's keep landing on it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>OK , now I have a better understanding of why my vacuum cleaner does such a lousy job .
. .
and why F-22 's keep landing on it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OK, now I have a better understanding of why my vacuum cleaner does such a lousy job .
. .
and why F-22's keep landing on it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30233806</id>
	<title>Re:Chips..?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257183060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Come on, I resent being called common.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Come on , I resent being called common .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Come on, I resent being called common.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229984</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229914</id>
	<title>Ron Paul!!!</title>
	<author>BitHive</author>
	<datestamp>1257152940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is why the government shouldn't be allowed any more money than is needed to keep the lights on in the capitol, they always fuck things up!  When will people learn to temper their bigoted distrust of the free market and private enterprise?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is why the government should n't be allowed any more money than is needed to keep the lights on in the capitol , they always fuck things up !
When will people learn to temper their bigoted distrust of the free market and private enterprise ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is why the government shouldn't be allowed any more money than is needed to keep the lights on in the capitol, they always fuck things up!
When will people learn to temper their bigoted distrust of the free market and private enterprise?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229950</id>
	<title>Can someone please explain the crossover here?</title>
	<author>xpuppykickerx</author>
	<datestamp>1257153120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>The chips were then sold to Naval Sea Systems Command, the Washington, D.C., group responsible for maintaining the US Navy's ships and systems, as well as an <b>unnamed vacuum-cleaner manufacturer</b> in the Midwest.

<br> <br>Has our Navy gone from suck to blow?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The chips were then sold to Naval Sea Systems Command , the Washington , D.C. , group responsible for maintaining the US Navy 's ships and systems , as well as an unnamed vacuum-cleaner manufacturer in the Midwest .
Has our Navy gone from suck to blow ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The chips were then sold to Naval Sea Systems Command, the Washington, D.C., group responsible for maintaining the US Navy's ships and systems, as well as an unnamed vacuum-cleaner manufacturer in the Midwest.
Has our Navy gone from suck to blow?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230124</id>
	<title>Re:Can someone please explain the crossover here?</title>
	<author>oldspewey</author>
	<datestamp>1257154020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think it's funny how the defence organizations are named in detail, while the vacuum-cleaner manufacturer must remain unnamed<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... presumably due to security concerns.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it 's funny how the defence organizations are named in detail , while the vacuum-cleaner manufacturer must remain unnamed ... presumably due to security concerns .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it's funny how the defence organizations are named in detail, while the vacuum-cleaner manufacturer must remain unnamed ... presumably due to security concerns.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229950</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30232474</id>
	<title>The true possiblilty of death by vacuum.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257170220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>well there is a type of vacumm chamber that could kill you a vacuum chamber, or the vacuum of spce, which either if it malfunctuned and int the highly unlikely chance a person was stupid enough to get himself locked inside while his asistant decided to start the expierment they were to be working on and o i don't know set it to a air pressure equal to I don't know 126 miles the edge of space that would really that would really suck to be that guy dieng of suffication as the water and oxygen is sucked from his body. That could be also considered a vacuum cleaner as the vacuum has just cleaned his body of his water and oxygen.</p><p>Or just making it worse setting the air pressure equal to the bottom of an oceanic trench so vacuums can kill a person, and take that comment back but then again he'd make the a first place for the darwin award. don't think of those two very very very nasty ways to suck the life right out of one.</p><p>Lesson of the story vacuums can kill, all very very very very painfull, don't get your self stuck unprotected in space, nor at the bottom of the ocean, or particullary with a horrible absent minded assistant and an expierement with a vacuum chamber, not to bring a very un cheery comment to this disscussion, carry on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>well there is a type of vacumm chamber that could kill you a vacuum chamber , or the vacuum of spce , which either if it malfunctuned and int the highly unlikely chance a person was stupid enough to get himself locked inside while his asistant decided to start the expierment they were to be working on and o i do n't know set it to a air pressure equal to I do n't know 126 miles the edge of space that would really that would really suck to be that guy dieng of suffication as the water and oxygen is sucked from his body .
That could be also considered a vacuum cleaner as the vacuum has just cleaned his body of his water and oxygen.Or just making it worse setting the air pressure equal to the bottom of an oceanic trench so vacuums can kill a person , and take that comment back but then again he 'd make the a first place for the darwin award .
do n't think of those two very very very nasty ways to suck the life right out of one.Lesson of the story vacuums can kill , all very very very very painfull , do n't get your self stuck unprotected in space , nor at the bottom of the ocean , or particullary with a horrible absent minded assistant and an expierement with a vacuum chamber , not to bring a very un cheery comment to this disscussion , carry on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>well there is a type of vacumm chamber that could kill you a vacuum chamber, or the vacuum of spce, which either if it malfunctuned and int the highly unlikely chance a person was stupid enough to get himself locked inside while his asistant decided to start the expierment they were to be working on and o i don't know set it to a air pressure equal to I don't know 126 miles the edge of space that would really that would really suck to be that guy dieng of suffication as the water and oxygen is sucked from his body.
That could be also considered a vacuum cleaner as the vacuum has just cleaned his body of his water and oxygen.Or just making it worse setting the air pressure equal to the bottom of an oceanic trench so vacuums can kill a person, and take that comment back but then again he'd make the a first place for the darwin award.
don't think of those two very very very nasty ways to suck the life right out of one.Lesson of the story vacuums can kill, all very very very very painfull, don't get your self stuck unprotected in space, nor at the bottom of the ocean, or particullary with a horrible absent minded assistant and an expierement with a vacuum chamber, not to bring a very un cheery comment to this disscussion, carry on.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230336</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230300</id>
	<title>Re:Can someone please explain the crossover here?</title>
	<author>couchslug</author>
	<datestamp>1257154860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Has our Navy gone from suck to blow?"</p><p>Don't ask, don't tell!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Has our Navy gone from suck to blow ?
" Do n't ask , do n't tell !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Has our Navy gone from suck to blow?
"Don't ask, don't tell!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229950</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229940</id>
	<title>Makes you wonder, though...what else?</title>
	<author>romonster</author>
	<datestamp>1257153060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wonder what else our armed forces and government have purchased that is fake or just plain doesn't work the way it should...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wonder what else our armed forces and government have purchased that is fake or just plain does n't work the way it should.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wonder what else our armed forces and government have purchased that is fake or just plain doesn't work the way it should...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30232036</id>
	<title>Re:Ron Paul!!!</title>
	<author>willy\_me</author>
	<datestamp>1257167280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The free market does not really exist.  It requires that everyone be honest and play by the rules.  In reality, people cheat and lie all the time.  For this reason, the free market does not exist in its idealized form.  We still strive for a free market, but rules, regulation, and enforcement are required in the real world.  The only real question is how much "rules, regulation, and enforcement" is required to minimize the loss that results from fraud?  Republicans and Democrats have different answers to this question.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The free market does not really exist .
It requires that everyone be honest and play by the rules .
In reality , people cheat and lie all the time .
For this reason , the free market does not exist in its idealized form .
We still strive for a free market , but rules , regulation , and enforcement are required in the real world .
The only real question is how much " rules , regulation , and enforcement " is required to minimize the loss that results from fraud ?
Republicans and Democrats have different answers to this question .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The free market does not really exist.
It requires that everyone be honest and play by the rules.
In reality, people cheat and lie all the time.
For this reason, the free market does not exist in its idealized form.
We still strive for a free market, but rules, regulation, and enforcement are required in the real world.
The only real question is how much "rules, regulation, and enforcement" is required to minimize the loss that results from fraud?
Republicans and Democrats have different answers to this question.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230022</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30233212</id>
	<title>hobbyists have this problem too</title>
	<author>Eil</author>
	<datestamp>1257176520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Electronic synthesizer makers/hackers/repairers have problems with counterfeit chips too. The Roland TB-303 has a number of transistors that have not been made in decades. Some have suitable modern replacements, but others do not. You have to be very careful buying transistors and chips to repair old synths (like the Juno) because it can be hard to spot fakes from looks alone. Chip counterfeiters can be very good at replacing a chip's markings. Sometimes you don't find out that it's a fake until you get it soldered into the circuit. Ebay is the most popular place for these kinds of scams, but occasionally a reputable electronics retailer will be duped into carrying them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Electronic synthesizer makers/hackers/repairers have problems with counterfeit chips too .
The Roland TB-303 has a number of transistors that have not been made in decades .
Some have suitable modern replacements , but others do not .
You have to be very careful buying transistors and chips to repair old synths ( like the Juno ) because it can be hard to spot fakes from looks alone .
Chip counterfeiters can be very good at replacing a chip 's markings .
Sometimes you do n't find out that it 's a fake until you get it soldered into the circuit .
Ebay is the most popular place for these kinds of scams , but occasionally a reputable electronics retailer will be duped into carrying them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Electronic synthesizer makers/hackers/repairers have problems with counterfeit chips too.
The Roland TB-303 has a number of transistors that have not been made in decades.
Some have suitable modern replacements, but others do not.
You have to be very careful buying transistors and chips to repair old synths (like the Juno) because it can be hard to spot fakes from looks alone.
Chip counterfeiters can be very good at replacing a chip's markings.
Sometimes you don't find out that it's a fake until you get it soldered into the circuit.
Ebay is the most popular place for these kinds of scams, but occasionally a reputable electronics retailer will be duped into carrying them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230728</id>
	<title>consequence of lowest bidder system</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257157320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Kind of funny this came up today- I work for semiconductor company and just sat through a talk yesterday about counterfeiting problem.  I guess with the military stuff the problem is usually because they have to go to the lowest bidder.  Authorized channels can't beat the fake stuff on price so the military gets fake stuff.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Kind of funny this came up today- I work for semiconductor company and just sat through a talk yesterday about counterfeiting problem .
I guess with the military stuff the problem is usually because they have to go to the lowest bidder .
Authorized channels ca n't beat the fake stuff on price so the military gets fake stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kind of funny this came up today- I work for semiconductor company and just sat through a talk yesterday about counterfeiting problem.
I guess with the military stuff the problem is usually because they have to go to the lowest bidder.
Authorized channels can't beat the fake stuff on price so the military gets fake stuff.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230474</id>
	<title>Re:Amusement du jour:</title>
	<author>Thud457</author>
	<datestamp>1257155760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>This sounds like "Our Man in Havana"<br> <br> <i>come on guys, it had Obi Wan it it!!!</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>This sounds like " Our Man in Havana " come on guys , it had Obi Wan it it ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This sounds like "Our Man in Havana"  come on guys, it had Obi Wan it it!!
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229876</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229870</id>
	<title>Unconstitutional</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257152700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is not authorized by the Constitution. "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." In other words the right to regulate chip counterfeiting belongs to your local State government, until you expand the Constitution with an amendment. Also, I enjoy receiving anal pleasure in truck stop bathrooms; you could say I have a wide stance.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is not authorized by the Constitution .
" The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution , nor prohibited by it to the States , are reserved to the States respectively , or to the people .
" In other words the right to regulate chip counterfeiting belongs to your local State government , until you expand the Constitution with an amendment .
Also , I enjoy receiving anal pleasure in truck stop bathrooms ; you could say I have a wide stance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is not authorized by the Constitution.
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
" In other words the right to regulate chip counterfeiting belongs to your local State government, until you expand the Constitution with an amendment.
Also, I enjoy receiving anal pleasure in truck stop bathrooms; you could say I have a wide stance.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30231222</id>
	<title>Re:we still make vacumm cleaners?</title>
	<author>bxbaser</author>
	<datestamp>1257161040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I work there, the chips where for our model BGM-109 Tomahawk</p><p>Its our newest long-range, all-weather, subsonic Vacuum cleaner.<br>It was designed as a medium- to long-range, low-altitude vacuum cleaner that could be launched from a submerged submarine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I work there , the chips where for our model BGM-109 TomahawkIts our newest long-range , all-weather , subsonic Vacuum cleaner.It was designed as a medium- to long-range , low-altitude vacuum cleaner that could be launched from a submerged submarine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work there, the chips where for our model BGM-109 TomahawkIts our newest long-range, all-weather, subsonic Vacuum cleaner.It was designed as a medium- to long-range, low-altitude vacuum cleaner that could be launched from a submerged submarine.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230708</id>
	<title>Vacuum Cleaners from the Middle East?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257157200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>The names of the culprits suggest that they immigrated from the Middle East.  Does anyone have information about their background?
<p>
I have been using Bing to find their background, but I have not had any luck.  Google provided even less information.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The names of the culprits suggest that they immigrated from the Middle East .
Does anyone have information about their background ?
I have been using Bing to find their background , but I have not had any luck .
Google provided even less information .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The names of the culprits suggest that they immigrated from the Middle East.
Does anyone have information about their background?
I have been using Bing to find their background, but I have not had any luck.
Google provided even less information.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30244356</id>
	<title>Re:I know it makes me a horrible person for saying</title>
	<author>tehcyder</author>
	<datestamp>1259324220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>If the US government had the policy of taking a closer look at or applying higher degrees of verification and checking (or outright denying positions of significant responsibility) to those who either are known to be Muslim or have a name that would tend to indicate so, then this would not have happened. Also, <strong>the Fort Hood incident would not have happened</strong>. Not to mention, a few other incidents.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
Because, as any fule kno,  only Muslims have ever cracked and gone on a killing spree.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If the US government had the policy of taking a closer look at or applying higher degrees of verification and checking ( or outright denying positions of significant responsibility ) to those who either are known to be Muslim or have a name that would tend to indicate so , then this would not have happened .
Also , the Fort Hood incident would not have happened .
Not to mention , a few other incidents .
Because , as any fule kno , only Muslims have ever cracked and gone on a killing spree .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the US government had the policy of taking a closer look at or applying higher degrees of verification and checking (or outright denying positions of significant responsibility) to those who either are known to be Muslim or have a name that would tend to indicate so, then this would not have happened.
Also, the Fort Hood incident would not have happened.
Not to mention, a few other incidents.
Because, as any fule kno,  only Muslims have ever cracked and gone on a killing spree.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230820</id>
	<title>Re:we still make vacumm cleaners?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257158040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>The vacuum cleaner manufacturer is actually named Noiseless Sucking Appliances.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The vacuum cleaner manufacturer is actually named Noiseless Sucking Appliances .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The vacuum cleaner manufacturer is actually named Noiseless Sucking Appliances.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30232332</id>
	<title>what an idiot</title>
	<author>anonymous9991</author>
	<datestamp>1257169260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>How did this idiot not think he was going to get caught?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How did this idiot not think he was going to get caught ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How did this idiot not think he was going to get caught?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30231170</id>
	<title>Re:HOW???</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257160740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In fact, according to the Navy Times on display today at the Exchange, sailors are buying parts themselves, out of their own pockets, to keep shit working.  The Navy's procurement system is not only so broken that it enables purchase of counterfeit components, it's so broken it can't necessarily supply even counterfeits.  And this with a Trillion dollar deficit.  Sheesh.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In fact , according to the Navy Times on display today at the Exchange , sailors are buying parts themselves , out of their own pockets , to keep shit working .
The Navy 's procurement system is not only so broken that it enables purchase of counterfeit components , it 's so broken it ca n't necessarily supply even counterfeits .
And this with a Trillion dollar deficit .
Sheesh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In fact, according to the Navy Times on display today at the Exchange, sailors are buying parts themselves, out of their own pockets, to keep shit working.
The Navy's procurement system is not only so broken that it enables purchase of counterfeit components, it's so broken it can't necessarily supply even counterfeits.
And this with a Trillion dollar deficit.
Sheesh.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30233676</id>
	<title>Re:Chips..?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257181260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So would they get fake BSOD too ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So would they get fake BSOD too ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So would they get fake BSOD too ?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30233608</id>
	<title>Not the first time.</title>
	<author>Ungrounded Lightning</author>
	<datestamp>1257180540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A company back in the mid-20th century always seemed to be able to find the mil-spec chips needed for military contracts.</p><p>Turns out they were pulling the same scam:  Buying consumer- or seconds-grade chips (from Radio Shack even), grinding off the markings, and rebranding them to look like the mil-spec ones.</p><p>The first space shuttle prototype was named the Enterprise, due to public pressure.  It was used for things like testing the piggyback transport plane and what-have-you, and the results of such testing used in final design changes for the flying fleet.  It is rumored that NASA DID examine whether they could upgrade it to flight status and end up with one more shuttle, rejected the option due to the cost (higher than building another one), and that a major factor in the decision was the need to replace all the electronics due to concern that those counterfeit chips had ended up in the assemblies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A company back in the mid-20th century always seemed to be able to find the mil-spec chips needed for military contracts.Turns out they were pulling the same scam : Buying consumer- or seconds-grade chips ( from Radio Shack even ) , grinding off the markings , and rebranding them to look like the mil-spec ones.The first space shuttle prototype was named the Enterprise , due to public pressure .
It was used for things like testing the piggyback transport plane and what-have-you , and the results of such testing used in final design changes for the flying fleet .
It is rumored that NASA DID examine whether they could upgrade it to flight status and end up with one more shuttle , rejected the option due to the cost ( higher than building another one ) , and that a major factor in the decision was the need to replace all the electronics due to concern that those counterfeit chips had ended up in the assemblies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A company back in the mid-20th century always seemed to be able to find the mil-spec chips needed for military contracts.Turns out they were pulling the same scam:  Buying consumer- or seconds-grade chips (from Radio Shack even), grinding off the markings, and rebranding them to look like the mil-spec ones.The first space shuttle prototype was named the Enterprise, due to public pressure.
It was used for things like testing the piggyback transport plane and what-have-you, and the results of such testing used in final design changes for the flying fleet.
It is rumored that NASA DID examine whether they could upgrade it to flight status and end up with one more shuttle, rejected the option due to the cost (higher than building another one), and that a major factor in the decision was the need to replace all the electronics due to concern that those counterfeit chips had ended up in the assemblies.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230542</id>
	<title>Re:HOW???</title>
	<author>Artraze</author>
	<datestamp>1257156120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You seem to be assuming that these parts are readily available.  Most likely, they have been long obsolete are almost impossible to find, if not truly so.  As replacing legacy systems is often very expensive (esp. for the military, where it often isn't an option), such chips can easily go for hundreds of dollars, if not thousands and are only purchased in small quantities.  I worked for a small business that needed such replacements for maintenance on a military project, and we got fakes for approx $350 each.  Luckily we knew about these scams, tested them, and then got the credit card company to do a charge back.</p><p>So, this is rather unsurprising to me, at least for the Navy.  Why a vacuum cleaner manufacturer would need such parts I don't know.  However, I'm fairly certain these weren't $10 chips that are currently available by the thousand from the manufacturer</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You seem to be assuming that these parts are readily available .
Most likely , they have been long obsolete are almost impossible to find , if not truly so .
As replacing legacy systems is often very expensive ( esp .
for the military , where it often is n't an option ) , such chips can easily go for hundreds of dollars , if not thousands and are only purchased in small quantities .
I worked for a small business that needed such replacements for maintenance on a military project , and we got fakes for approx $ 350 each .
Luckily we knew about these scams , tested them , and then got the credit card company to do a charge back.So , this is rather unsurprising to me , at least for the Navy .
Why a vacuum cleaner manufacturer would need such parts I do n't know .
However , I 'm fairly certain these were n't $ 10 chips that are currently available by the thousand from the manufacturer</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You seem to be assuming that these parts are readily available.
Most likely, they have been long obsolete are almost impossible to find, if not truly so.
As replacing legacy systems is often very expensive (esp.
for the military, where it often isn't an option), such chips can easily go for hundreds of dollars, if not thousands and are only purchased in small quantities.
I worked for a small business that needed such replacements for maintenance on a military project, and we got fakes for approx $350 each.
Luckily we knew about these scams, tested them, and then got the credit card company to do a charge back.So, this is rather unsurprising to me, at least for the Navy.
Why a vacuum cleaner manufacturer would need such parts I don't know.
However, I'm fairly certain these weren't $10 chips that are currently available by the thousand from the manufacturer</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230638</id>
	<title>Counterfeits and adulteration too rampant</title>
	<author>blind biker</author>
	<datestamp>1257156660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have learned that 100\% of SD cards and USB drives on eBay, if from China or Hong-Kong, are counterfeits, and you're lucky if they actually have the specified capacity. You're shit-out of luck if you hope to find a good quality SLC Flash-RAM component (be it SD, CF or USB drive) - they're all MLC.</p><p>Another example: did you know that 90\% of Indian Sandalwood on the market is either not Sandalwood (it's adulterated) or, if you're lucky, it's not Indian (rather Australian or New Caledonian, much lesser in quality and Santalol content)? Other essential oils' adulteration is rampant as well. There's at least twice as much Lavendel EO on the market, than there's world production.</p><p>Olive oil adulteration is very common in Spain, Italy and Greece. Coconut oil adulteration is rampant as well. And this is stuff people \_eat\_! And then there are several Chinese milk scandals, where dozens of babies were killed.</p><p>A strong consumer association should emerge and help sorting out the good stuff from the bad. I don't know the solution to the problem, frankly, but I know it's bad and getting worse.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have learned that 100 \ % of SD cards and USB drives on eBay , if from China or Hong-Kong , are counterfeits , and you 're lucky if they actually have the specified capacity .
You 're shit-out of luck if you hope to find a good quality SLC Flash-RAM component ( be it SD , CF or USB drive ) - they 're all MLC.Another example : did you know that 90 \ % of Indian Sandalwood on the market is either not Sandalwood ( it 's adulterated ) or , if you 're lucky , it 's not Indian ( rather Australian or New Caledonian , much lesser in quality and Santalol content ) ?
Other essential oils ' adulteration is rampant as well .
There 's at least twice as much Lavendel EO on the market , than there 's world production.Olive oil adulteration is very common in Spain , Italy and Greece .
Coconut oil adulteration is rampant as well .
And this is stuff people \ _eat \ _ !
And then there are several Chinese milk scandals , where dozens of babies were killed.A strong consumer association should emerge and help sorting out the good stuff from the bad .
I do n't know the solution to the problem , frankly , but I know it 's bad and getting worse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have learned that 100\% of SD cards and USB drives on eBay, if from China or Hong-Kong, are counterfeits, and you're lucky if they actually have the specified capacity.
You're shit-out of luck if you hope to find a good quality SLC Flash-RAM component (be it SD, CF or USB drive) - they're all MLC.Another example: did you know that 90\% of Indian Sandalwood on the market is either not Sandalwood (it's adulterated) or, if you're lucky, it's not Indian (rather Australian or New Caledonian, much lesser in quality and Santalol content)?
Other essential oils' adulteration is rampant as well.
There's at least twice as much Lavendel EO on the market, than there's world production.Olive oil adulteration is very common in Spain, Italy and Greece.
Coconut oil adulteration is rampant as well.
And this is stuff people \_eat\_!
And then there are several Chinese milk scandals, where dozens of babies were killed.A strong consumer association should emerge and help sorting out the good stuff from the bad.
I don't know the solution to the problem, frankly, but I know it's bad and getting worse.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30233706</id>
	<title>US</title>
	<author>toxique</author>
	<datestamp>1257181620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is the Navy kidding? are they stupid?

Why buy electronic components from unknown/obscure brokers who sell crap made in foreign countries?

Why not buy directly from AMERICAN MANUFACTURERS, there are many: National Semiconductor, Freescale, Fairchild, just to mention.
Or some other reputable manufacturers like Philips or Toshiba?

Well, i'd rather buy from reliable american companies when national security is a major concern! It looks the Navy does not think so.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is the Navy kidding ?
are they stupid ?
Why buy electronic components from unknown/obscure brokers who sell crap made in foreign countries ?
Why not buy directly from AMERICAN MANUFACTURERS , there are many : National Semiconductor , Freescale , Fairchild , just to mention .
Or some other reputable manufacturers like Philips or Toshiba ?
Well , i 'd rather buy from reliable american companies when national security is a major concern !
It looks the Navy does not think so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is the Navy kidding?
are they stupid?
Why buy electronic components from unknown/obscure brokers who sell crap made in foreign countries?
Why not buy directly from AMERICAN MANUFACTURERS, there are many: National Semiconductor, Freescale, Fairchild, just to mention.
Or some other reputable manufacturers like Philips or Toshiba?
Well, i'd rather buy from reliable american companies when national security is a major concern!
It looks the Navy does not think so.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30232290</id>
	<title>Re:we still make vacumm cleaners?Merry Christmas,</title>
	<author>coolforsale126</author>
	<datestamp>1257168960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.coolforsale.com/" title="coolforsale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coolforsale.com/</a> [coolforsale.com]  Dear ladies and gentlemen Hello, In order to meet Christmas, Site launched Christmas spree, welcome new and old customers come to participate in the there are unexpected surprises, look forward to your arrival. Only this site have this treatmentOur goal is "Best quality, Best reputation , Best services". Your satisfaction is our main pursue. You can find the best products from us, meeting your different needs.Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products . Pass by but don't miss it.Select your favorite clothing! Welcome to come next time ! Thank you!http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76 (Tracksuit w) ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket, Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33 Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35 Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&amp;g) $35 Tshirts (Polo<nobr> <wbr></nobr>,ed hardy,lacoste) $16 free shipping Thanks!!! Advance wish you a merry Christmas.</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.coolforsale.com/ [ coolforsale.com ] Dear ladies and gentlemen Hello , In order to meet Christmas , Site launched Christmas spree , welcome new and old customers come to participate in the there are unexpected surprises , look forward to your arrival .
Only this site have this treatmentOur goal is " Best quality , Best reputation , Best services " .
Your satisfaction is our main pursue .
You can find the best products from us , meeting your different needs.Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products .
Pass by but do n't miss it.Select your favorite clothing !
Welcome to come next time !
Thank you ! http : //www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp ? id = s76 ( Tracksuit w ) ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket , Air jordan ( 1-24 ) shoes $ 33 Nike shox ( R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3 ) $ 35 Handbags ( Coach lv fendi d&amp;g ) $ 35 Tshirts ( Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste ) $ 16 free shipping Thanks ! ! !
Advance wish you a merry Christmas .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.coolforsale.com/ [coolforsale.com]  Dear ladies and gentlemen Hello, In order to meet Christmas, Site launched Christmas spree, welcome new and old customers come to participate in the there are unexpected surprises, look forward to your arrival.
Only this site have this treatmentOur goal is "Best quality, Best reputation , Best services".
Your satisfaction is our main pursue.
You can find the best products from us, meeting your different needs.Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products .
Pass by but don't miss it.Select your favorite clothing!
Welcome to come next time !
Thank you!http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76 (Tracksuit w) ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket, Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33 Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35 Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&amp;g) $35 Tshirts (Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste) $16 free shipping Thanks!!!
Advance wish you a merry Christmas.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30231114</id>
	<title>Re:Treason</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257160080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If it can be said the there where no Terrorist attacks under George W then it can be said to be treason.   Common logic and facts, in this day and age.  That'll never get you a job at Fox son.......<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If it can be said the there where no Terrorist attacks under George W then it can be said to be treason .
Common logic and facts , in this day and age .
That 'll never get you a job at Fox son....... ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it can be said the there where no Terrorist attacks under George W then it can be said to be treason.
Common logic and facts, in this day and age.
That'll never get you a job at Fox son....... ;)</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229892</id>
	<title>Seriously?</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1257152820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You thought you could get away with fraud while dealing with the government?</p><p>Might as well as try robbing a police station.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You thought you could get away with fraud while dealing with the government ? Might as well as try robbing a police station .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You thought you could get away with fraud while dealing with the government?Might as well as try robbing a police station.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30232762</id>
	<title>Re:Seriously?</title>
	<author>CharlyFoxtrot</author>
	<datestamp>1257172620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sure you can, you just have to do it the right way like Goldman-Sachs. First you make some bribes, oops I meant <i>campaign contributions</i>, then you get them to hire your guys to run the place, THEN you defraud the government for trillions. Gotta spend money to steal money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure you can , you just have to do it the right way like Goldman-Sachs .
First you make some bribes , oops I meant campaign contributions , then you get them to hire your guys to run the place , THEN you defraud the government for trillions .
Got ta spend money to steal money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure you can, you just have to do it the right way like Goldman-Sachs.
First you make some bribes, oops I meant campaign contributions, then you get them to hire your guys to run the place, THEN you defraud the government for trillions.
Gotta spend money to steal money.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230338</id>
	<title>I wonder how many of these quasi-mil spec...</title>
	<author>AmazingRuss</author>
	<datestamp>1257155100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... devices found themselves in things like reactor control systems, missile systems, and other catastrophically lethal stuff?</p><p>Maybe the military should be making it's OWN components, instead of buying them from the people they have their guns pointed at.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... devices found themselves in things like reactor control systems , missile systems , and other catastrophically lethal stuff ? Maybe the military should be making it 's OWN components , instead of buying them from the people they have their guns pointed at .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... devices found themselves in things like reactor control systems, missile systems, and other catastrophically lethal stuff?Maybe the military should be making it's OWN components, instead of buying them from the people they have their guns pointed at.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230150</id>
	<title>Re:Treason</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257154080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The presidency?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The presidency ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The presidency?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30245096</id>
	<title>Re:we still make vacumm cleaners?</title>
	<author>Horny Hot Babes Rule</author>
	<datestamp>1259334420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why would the National Honor Society need a cover for its name?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why would the National Honor Society need a cover for its name ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why would the National Honor Society need a cover for its name?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230350</id>
	<title>Re:Chips..?</title>
	<author>Wyatt Earp</author>
	<datestamp>1257155160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This place's original title was - Chips and Dips - back in '97 when I first came across the place.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This place 's original title was - Chips and Dips - back in '97 when I first came across the place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This place's original title was - Chips and Dips - back in '97 when I first came across the place.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230028</id>
	<title>HOW???</title>
	<author>frozentier</author>
	<datestamp>1257153480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>HOW does a man and his family sell ANYTHING to the Navy?  Is the Navy getting their parts from eBay or Craig's List?</htmltext>
<tokenext>HOW does a man and his family sell ANYTHING to the Navy ?
Is the Navy getting their parts from eBay or Craig 's List ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>HOW does a man and his family sell ANYTHING to the Navy?
Is the Navy getting their parts from eBay or Craig's List?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30234258</id>
	<title>Re:Balls</title>
	<author>rahvin112</author>
	<datestamp>1257188700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The amusing thing is this would be misdemeanor fraud had they not sold to the military. Now it's a federal felony and a Jury is going to throw the book a them for defrauding the one government agency that the vast amount of American's support and believe is responsible for their safety. Juries will see this as almost as bad as selling inferior fire hose to the fire department and they will absolutely throw the book at the people and I expect they will be soon enjoying long prison sentences at the one prison where you won't get paroled because they have plenty of capacity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The amusing thing is this would be misdemeanor fraud had they not sold to the military .
Now it 's a federal felony and a Jury is going to throw the book a them for defrauding the one government agency that the vast amount of American 's support and believe is responsible for their safety .
Juries will see this as almost as bad as selling inferior fire hose to the fire department and they will absolutely throw the book at the people and I expect they will be soon enjoying long prison sentences at the one prison where you wo n't get paroled because they have plenty of capacity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The amusing thing is this would be misdemeanor fraud had they not sold to the military.
Now it's a federal felony and a Jury is going to throw the book a them for defrauding the one government agency that the vast amount of American's support and believe is responsible for their safety.
Juries will see this as almost as bad as selling inferior fire hose to the fire department and they will absolutely throw the book at the people and I expect they will be soon enjoying long prison sentences at the one prison where you won't get paroled because they have plenty of capacity.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230514</id>
	<title>Re:we still make vacumm cleaners?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257155940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What about that one from Maximum Overdrive?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What about that one from Maximum Overdrive ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about that one from Maximum Overdrive?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229934</id>
	<title>uuuh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257153000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>whats wrong with sony, samsung, or intel. I'm sure they could produce chips for government related applications, not some shady business no ones heard of before.</htmltext>
<tokenext>whats wrong with sony , samsung , or intel .
I 'm sure they could produce chips for government related applications , not some shady business no ones heard of before .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>whats wrong with sony, samsung, or intel.
I'm sure they could produce chips for government related applications, not some shady business no ones heard of before.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230540</id>
	<title>Submarine semantics</title>
	<author>BForrester</author>
	<datestamp>1257156120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not what they expected when the navy asked for "sub-standard" chips</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not what they expected when the navy asked for " sub-standard " chips</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not what they expected when the navy asked for "sub-standard" chips</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230490</id>
	<title>Re:Ron Paul!!!</title>
	<author>CTalkobt</author>
	<datestamp>1257155820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Huh?
<p>
I don't think this is an issue of Due Diligence - blame the goverment blah blah blah - it's an issue of THEY LIED. They stated the chips were one thing / one grade and turned out they were another grade entirely.
</p><p>
It's reasonable to expect regular consumers in the marketplace to perform due diligence but when a person claims the product is the product and it appears that way then the person has performed due deligence. Requiring the person to inspect fab plants and everything else for every manufacturer is not due diligence - it's a hassle.
</p><p>
Let's get out of this blame the government mantra - the politico talking heads are having enough fun as it is. This is a criminal issue for which the company should be nailed pretty harshly. The goverment should get it's retribution through whatever means are most expedient.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Huh ?
I do n't think this is an issue of Due Diligence - blame the goverment blah blah blah - it 's an issue of THEY LIED .
They stated the chips were one thing / one grade and turned out they were another grade entirely .
It 's reasonable to expect regular consumers in the marketplace to perform due diligence but when a person claims the product is the product and it appears that way then the person has performed due deligence .
Requiring the person to inspect fab plants and everything else for every manufacturer is not due diligence - it 's a hassle .
Let 's get out of this blame the government mantra - the politico talking heads are having enough fun as it is .
This is a criminal issue for which the company should be nailed pretty harshly .
The goverment should get it 's retribution through whatever means are most expedient .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Huh?
I don't think this is an issue of Due Diligence - blame the goverment blah blah blah - it's an issue of THEY LIED.
They stated the chips were one thing / one grade and turned out they were another grade entirely.
It's reasonable to expect regular consumers in the marketplace to perform due diligence but when a person claims the product is the product and it appears that way then the person has performed due deligence.
Requiring the person to inspect fab plants and everything else for every manufacturer is not due diligence - it's a hassle.
Let's get out of this blame the government mantra - the politico talking heads are having enough fun as it is.
This is a criminal issue for which the company should be nailed pretty harshly.
The goverment should get it's retribution through whatever means are most expedient.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30230480</id>
	<title>Re:HOW???</title>
	<author>NecroPuppy</author>
	<datestamp>1257155820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The answer is pretty simple.</p><p>The Department of Defense has what is called the "DOD E-Mall".</p><p>If you're a registered vendor with it, you list your products, ARO times, costs, minimum order, etc.</p><p>Included in there is if you're a minority owned company, small business, and a couple other equal opportunity things.</p><p>Then, when a DoD user (who has taken and passed the necessary training) needs something, they can log into it, and if armed with the right search criteria (the search there is crap, unless you have a manufacturer part number), you get a list of all the vendors who have it.</p><p>Then, armed with your list of who you're allowed to buy from (not specifically excluding any vendors, just things like - haven't purchased from them more than 3 times this month), you pick one and go to whoever in your area has the authority to use the credit card, and the purchase is made.  After, of course, the requisite paperwork.</p><p>It regularly works well, except for when the vendors forget to remove products they aren't carrying anymore, go out of business and forget to tell anyone, or change their ordering address / phone number.</p><p>So if this guy was in the system as having these various chips, and he was the low cost option, he'd get picked a lot.  Split through a number of codes (departments) he could see some regular sales.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The answer is pretty simple.The Department of Defense has what is called the " DOD E-Mall " .If you 're a registered vendor with it , you list your products , ARO times , costs , minimum order , etc.Included in there is if you 're a minority owned company , small business , and a couple other equal opportunity things.Then , when a DoD user ( who has taken and passed the necessary training ) needs something , they can log into it , and if armed with the right search criteria ( the search there is crap , unless you have a manufacturer part number ) , you get a list of all the vendors who have it.Then , armed with your list of who you 're allowed to buy from ( not specifically excluding any vendors , just things like - have n't purchased from them more than 3 times this month ) , you pick one and go to whoever in your area has the authority to use the credit card , and the purchase is made .
After , of course , the requisite paperwork.It regularly works well , except for when the vendors forget to remove products they are n't carrying anymore , go out of business and forget to tell anyone , or change their ordering address / phone number.So if this guy was in the system as having these various chips , and he was the low cost option , he 'd get picked a lot .
Split through a number of codes ( departments ) he could see some regular sales .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The answer is pretty simple.The Department of Defense has what is called the "DOD E-Mall".If you're a registered vendor with it, you list your products, ARO times, costs, minimum order, etc.Included in there is if you're a minority owned company, small business, and a couple other equal opportunity things.Then, when a DoD user (who has taken and passed the necessary training) needs something, they can log into it, and if armed with the right search criteria (the search there is crap, unless you have a manufacturer part number), you get a list of all the vendors who have it.Then, armed with your list of who you're allowed to buy from (not specifically excluding any vendors, just things like - haven't purchased from them more than 3 times this month), you pick one and go to whoever in your area has the authority to use the credit card, and the purchase is made.
After, of course, the requisite paperwork.It regularly works well, except for when the vendors forget to remove products they aren't carrying anymore, go out of business and forget to tell anyone, or change their ordering address / phone number.So if this guy was in the system as having these various chips, and he was the low cost option, he'd get picked a lot.
Split through a number of codes (departments) he could see some regular sales.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_1940247.30229854</id>
	<title>we still make vacumm cleaners?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257152640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That sucks<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That sucks ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That sucks ;)</sentencetext>
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