<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_25_0527205</id>
	<title>US Air Force Buying Another 2,200 PS3s</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1259139720000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>bleedingpegasus sends word that the US Air Force will be <a href="http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/linux/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=221900487">grabbing up 2,200 new PlayStation 3 consoles</a> for research into supercomputing. They already have a cluster made from 336 of the old-style (non-Slim) consoles, which they've used for a variety of purposes, including "processing multiple radar images into higher resolution composite images (known as synthetic aperture radar image formation), high-def video processing, and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromorphic">'neuromorphic computing</a>.'" According to the <a href="https://www.fbo.gov/utils/view?id=6ec0ce98eda8db871e7ef75fae40c1cc">Justification Review Document</a> (DOC), "Once the hardware configuration is implemented, software code will be developed in-house for cluster implementation utilizing a Linux-based operating software."</htmltext>
<tokenext>bleedingpegasus sends word that the US Air Force will be grabbing up 2,200 new PlayStation 3 consoles for research into supercomputing .
They already have a cluster made from 336 of the old-style ( non-Slim ) consoles , which they 've used for a variety of purposes , including " processing multiple radar images into higher resolution composite images ( known as synthetic aperture radar image formation ) , high-def video processing , and 'neuromorphic computing .
' " According to the Justification Review Document ( DOC ) , " Once the hardware configuration is implemented , software code will be developed in-house for cluster implementation utilizing a Linux-based operating software .
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<sentencetext>bleedingpegasus sends word that the US Air Force will be grabbing up 2,200 new PlayStation 3 consoles for research into supercomputing.
They already have a cluster made from 336 of the old-style (non-Slim) consoles, which they've used for a variety of purposes, including "processing multiple radar images into higher resolution composite images (known as synthetic aperture radar image formation), high-def video processing, and 'neuromorphic computing.
'" According to the Justification Review Document (DOC), "Once the hardware configuration is implemented, software code will be developed in-house for cluster implementation utilizing a Linux-based operating software.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30225660</id>
	<title>Re:Black Friday Deals!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257175680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or NAVY</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or NAVY</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or NAVY</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30230658</id>
	<title>Re:Amazing!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257156840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I didn't know Skynet was made of PS3's...</p></div><p>According to the sarah connor chronicles, it was ps1's and xboxs.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I did n't know Skynet was made of PS3 's...According to the sarah connor chronicles , it was ps1 's and xboxs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I didn't know Skynet was made of PS3's...According to the sarah connor chronicles, it was ps1's and xboxs.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30226752</id>
	<title>Re:Cell processor</title>
	<author>furby076</author>
	<datestamp>1257181320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ps3 is a rather efficient system and works well together on a network.  They also want the high-res output and this thing has built-in blu ray.  Couple that with the fact that Sony sells these systems below production cost and it becomes cheaper to buy these WORKING systems then to build your own.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ps3 is a rather efficient system and works well together on a network .
They also want the high-res output and this thing has built-in blu ray .
Couple that with the fact that Sony sells these systems below production cost and it becomes cheaper to buy these WORKING systems then to build your own .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ps3 is a rather efficient system and works well together on a network.
They also want the high-res output and this thing has built-in blu ray.
Couple that with the fact that Sony sells these systems below production cost and it becomes cheaper to buy these WORKING systems then to build your own.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30228474</id>
	<title>can not wait</title>
	<author>abradsn</author>
	<datestamp>1257189660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can't wait to see a Beowolf cluster of one of these... oh wait...
<br>
Sorry.
<br> <br>
Couldn't help it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't wait to see a Beowolf cluster of one of these... oh wait.. . Sorry . Could n't help it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't wait to see a Beowolf cluster of one of these... oh wait...

Sorry.
 
Couldn't help it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224840</id>
	<title>Radar images? What a waste.</title>
	<author>billsayswow</author>
	<datestamp>1257168540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>With that many PS3s hooked up into a cluster, why blow it on radar images? You could finally play the newest Dynasty Warriors game without the framerate plummeting whenever you use your Musou attack.</htmltext>
<tokenext>With that many PS3s hooked up into a cluster , why blow it on radar images ?
You could finally play the newest Dynasty Warriors game without the framerate plummeting whenever you use your Musou attack .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With that many PS3s hooked up into a cluster, why blow it on radar images?
You could finally play the newest Dynasty Warriors game without the framerate plummeting whenever you use your Musou attack.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224402</id>
	<title>Not much stopping them really</title>
	<author>ciroknight</author>
	<datestamp>1257161820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is the US Government we're talking about. One of the few entities on the planet where "Budget" is virtually meaningless. Someone sneezes funny and a million dollars goes out the door. How much do you think it'd cost to financially compel Sony to enabling Linux installs on their machines? Exactly how much does a PS3 dev-kit license cost again? How hard to do you think it'd be to get a judge to sign some order compelling Sony to releasing the schematics to the US Government under NDA, so that they can write and maintain their own Linux loader for the machine?
<br> <br>Even if the cost of the above was in the lower 8-digit range without the machines included, which I really doubt, it'd likely be cheaper to source these machines than it would be to develop your own hybrid compute node and software for it (or nVidia's crazy-expensive, less mature solution).
<br> <br>
<i>Sony</i> doesn't support Linux on these machines, which makes it practically impossible for the home user to boot Linux on them. (Well, tbh, 'improbable', look at how much reverse engineering has happened with the GameCube &amp; Wii). But for someone with deep enough pockets, like say a government agency, it's almost trivial.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the US Government we 're talking about .
One of the few entities on the planet where " Budget " is virtually meaningless .
Someone sneezes funny and a million dollars goes out the door .
How much do you think it 'd cost to financially compel Sony to enabling Linux installs on their machines ?
Exactly how much does a PS3 dev-kit license cost again ?
How hard to do you think it 'd be to get a judge to sign some order compelling Sony to releasing the schematics to the US Government under NDA , so that they can write and maintain their own Linux loader for the machine ?
Even if the cost of the above was in the lower 8-digit range without the machines included , which I really doubt , it 'd likely be cheaper to source these machines than it would be to develop your own hybrid compute node and software for it ( or nVidia 's crazy-expensive , less mature solution ) .
Sony does n't support Linux on these machines , which makes it practically impossible for the home user to boot Linux on them .
( Well , tbh , 'improbable ' , look at how much reverse engineering has happened with the GameCube &amp; Wii ) .
But for someone with deep enough pockets , like say a government agency , it 's almost trivial .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the US Government we're talking about.
One of the few entities on the planet where "Budget" is virtually meaningless.
Someone sneezes funny and a million dollars goes out the door.
How much do you think it'd cost to financially compel Sony to enabling Linux installs on their machines?
Exactly how much does a PS3 dev-kit license cost again?
How hard to do you think it'd be to get a judge to sign some order compelling Sony to releasing the schematics to the US Government under NDA, so that they can write and maintain their own Linux loader for the machine?
Even if the cost of the above was in the lower 8-digit range without the machines included, which I really doubt, it'd likely be cheaper to source these machines than it would be to develop your own hybrid compute node and software for it (or nVidia's crazy-expensive, less mature solution).
Sony doesn't support Linux on these machines, which makes it practically impossible for the home user to boot Linux on them.
(Well, tbh, 'improbable', look at how much reverse engineering has happened with the GameCube &amp; Wii).
But for someone with deep enough pockets, like say a government agency, it's almost trivial.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30225764</id>
	<title>We all assume</title>
	<author>gregthebunny</author>
	<datestamp>1257176460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That they're going to run Linux on them. What if they inked a deal with Sony to provide them the SDK's to make their own "games" that use 100\% of the hardware capabilities? Heck, maybe they have their own private area on the PlayStation Store for distributing software to 2,200 consoles.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That they 're going to run Linux on them .
What if they inked a deal with Sony to provide them the SDK 's to make their own " games " that use 100 \ % of the hardware capabilities ?
Heck , maybe they have their own private area on the PlayStation Store for distributing software to 2,200 consoles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That they're going to run Linux on them.
What if they inked a deal with Sony to provide them the SDK's to make their own "games" that use 100\% of the hardware capabilities?
Heck, maybe they have their own private area on the PlayStation Store for distributing software to 2,200 consoles.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224238</id>
	<title>Re:Cell processor</title>
	<author>umghhh</author>
	<datestamp>1257160260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I suppose if they ordered a system designed specifically for their purpose it would cost a dozen millions more on top of this half that you mentioned and then they still had to do in house software stated in the summary. So indeed they saved some - even if you consider all the military expense a nonsense anyway it was still half a mil wasted instead of a dozen.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I suppose if they ordered a system designed specifically for their purpose it would cost a dozen millions more on top of this half that you mentioned and then they still had to do in house software stated in the summary .
So indeed they saved some - even if you consider all the military expense a nonsense anyway it was still half a mil wasted instead of a dozen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suppose if they ordered a system designed specifically for their purpose it would cost a dozen millions more on top of this half that you mentioned and then they still had to do in house software stated in the summary.
So indeed they saved some - even if you consider all the military expense a nonsense anyway it was still half a mil wasted instead of a dozen.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30227236</id>
	<title>Re:Amazing!</title>
	<author>SnarfQuest</author>
	<datestamp>1257183780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Were there any hacked PS3's included. That could be part of the problem.</p><p>For some reason, that weird robotic hand, that we found in what looked like a battle field, has also started acting odd. Almost like it has a mind of it's own. We better check the reverse engineered drivers when we get a chance. Maybe we'll find something useful to do with it, instead of just having it make rude gestures..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Were there any hacked PS3 's included .
That could be part of the problem.For some reason , that weird robotic hand , that we found in what looked like a battle field , has also started acting odd .
Almost like it has a mind of it 's own .
We better check the reverse engineered drivers when we get a chance .
Maybe we 'll find something useful to do with it , instead of just having it make rude gestures. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Were there any hacked PS3's included.
That could be part of the problem.For some reason, that weird robotic hand, that we found in what looked like a battle field, has also started acting odd.
Almost like it has a mind of it's own.
We better check the reverse engineered drivers when we get a chance.
Maybe we'll find something useful to do with it, instead of just having it make rude gestures..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30223942</id>
	<title>Interesting</title>
	<author>James\_Duncan8181</author>
	<datestamp>1257156780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Does this mean that they'll be running Linux on the Slim?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does this mean that they 'll be running Linux on the Slim ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does this mean that they'll be running Linux on the Slim?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224172</id>
	<title>Re:Why buy the whole PS3</title>
	<author>AlecC</author>
	<datestamp>1257159600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because at this scale, buying mass market complete systems is much cheaper because of the economies of scale. Parts sold as spares and replacement are priced much higher than complete systems.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because at this scale , buying mass market complete systems is much cheaper because of the economies of scale .
Parts sold as spares and replacement are priced much higher than complete systems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because at this scale, buying mass market complete systems is much cheaper because of the economies of scale.
Parts sold as spares and replacement are priced much higher than complete systems.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30225418</id>
	<title>Why don't they get some Cell CPU boards</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257174240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So they need a few boards with Cell processors, some memory and probably a NIC.

But instead they buy a box, that contains also a blue-ray drive, a hard drive, WiFi, Audio subsystem, Graphics acceleration, a couple of fancy dual-shock 3 controllers, etc...but...oh...yes, they get all this things they don't need with a discount. Cool! Who knows, maybe some day they can use this dual-shock 3 controllers to control their UAVs...</htmltext>
<tokenext>So they need a few boards with Cell processors , some memory and probably a NIC .
But instead they buy a box , that contains also a blue-ray drive , a hard drive , WiFi , Audio subsystem , Graphics acceleration , a couple of fancy dual-shock 3 controllers , etc...but...oh...yes , they get all this things they do n't need with a discount .
Cool ! Who knows , maybe some day they can use this dual-shock 3 controllers to control their UAVs.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So they need a few boards with Cell processors, some memory and probably a NIC.
But instead they buy a box, that contains also a blue-ray drive, a hard drive, WiFi, Audio subsystem, Graphics acceleration, a couple of fancy dual-shock 3 controllers, etc...but...oh...yes, they get all this things they don't need with a discount.
Cool! Who knows, maybe some day they can use this dual-shock 3 controllers to control their UAVs...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30228416</id>
	<title>Re:Loss for Sony?</title>
	<author>hmar</author>
	<datestamp>1257189360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm not sure that this is the case. The marketing possibilities of  the US Air Force using PS3s must be worth more than the hardware. I doubt anyone at Sony is particularly upset.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not sure that this is the case .
The marketing possibilities of the US Air Force using PS3s must be worth more than the hardware .
I doubt anyone at Sony is particularly upset .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not sure that this is the case.
The marketing possibilities of  the US Air Force using PS3s must be worth more than the hardware.
I doubt anyone at Sony is particularly upset.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224362</id>
	<title>Re:Why buy the whole PS3</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257161460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They're buying them directly from sony. Most likely they won't have any extra controllers or even blue ray drives.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're buying them directly from sony .
Most likely they wo n't have any extra controllers or even blue ray drives .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're buying them directly from sony.
Most likely they won't have any extra controllers or even blue ray drives.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224630</id>
	<title>Wow</title>
	<author>Niubi</author>
	<datestamp>1257165180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's a lot of Playstations. I hope they bought them cheap from someplace like DubLi.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's a lot of Playstations .
I hope they bought them cheap from someplace like DubLi .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's a lot of Playstations.
I hope they bought them cheap from someplace like DubLi.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30225772</id>
	<title>Re:Cell processor</title>
	<author>khallow</author>
	<datestamp>1257176520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>We keep hearing these stories, and the reason is that the Cell processor is awesome for this type of work.</p></div><p>I think part of the reason for developing a machine with PS/3 units is simply to see what it can do. Both to compare it to other architectures like one using the Cell processor and to figure out what sort of computing power potential adversaries would have access to.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>We keep hearing these stories , and the reason is that the Cell processor is awesome for this type of work.I think part of the reason for developing a machine with PS/3 units is simply to see what it can do .
Both to compare it to other architectures like one using the Cell processor and to figure out what sort of computing power potential adversaries would have access to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We keep hearing these stories, and the reason is that the Cell processor is awesome for this type of work.I think part of the reason for developing a machine with PS/3 units is simply to see what it can do.
Both to compare it to other architectures like one using the Cell processor and to figure out what sort of computing power potential adversaries would have access to.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224132</id>
	<title>Re:Cell processor</title>
	<author>emilper</author>
	<datestamp>1257159000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They would buy Cell processors, but then then it would take an year and a half for the papers to be processed, six month for IBM and Dep.Def. to spec the systems, and about two years while competitors contest the order<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... everything costing about 10 times as much for one half of the computing power, and would not be able to run much else besides floating point calculations.</p><p>BTW, has anybody tried DwarfFortress on a PS3 ?</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They would buy Cell processors , but then then it would take an year and a half for the papers to be processed , six month for IBM and Dep.Def .
to spec the systems , and about two years while competitors contest the order ... everything costing about 10 times as much for one half of the computing power , and would not be able to run much else besides floating point calculations.BTW , has anybody tried DwarfFortress on a PS3 ?
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>They would buy Cell processors, but then then it would take an year and a half for the papers to be processed, six month for IBM and Dep.Def.
to spec the systems, and about two years while competitors contest the order ... everything costing about 10 times as much for one half of the computing power, and would not be able to run much else besides floating point calculations.BTW, has anybody tried DwarfFortress on a PS3 ?
 </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30228266</id>
	<title>Re:Wow</title>
	<author>kriston</author>
	<datestamp>1257188580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Did we read the proposal linked from the article?  It specifies PlayStation 3 model CECHP01 which does, indeed, run Linux.  I wondered, though, how successful they are going to be at finding 2,200 units.  Distributors are running out of new/old stock of this model, as many compute cluster builders are trying to get them before they're all gone.</p><p>Here is the proposal for those who didn't actually bother to RFA:<br><a href="https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&amp;mode=form&amp;id=bac60f8808fa1e221597573901a7cd6b&amp;tab=core&amp;\_cview=1&amp;cck=1&amp;au=&amp;ck=" title="fbo.gov">https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&amp;mode=form&amp;id=bac60f8808fa1e221597573901a7cd6b&amp;tab=core&amp;\_cview=1&amp;cck=1&amp;au=&amp;ck=</a> [fbo.gov]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did we read the proposal linked from the article ?
It specifies PlayStation 3 model CECHP01 which does , indeed , run Linux .
I wondered , though , how successful they are going to be at finding 2,200 units .
Distributors are running out of new/old stock of this model , as many compute cluster builders are trying to get them before they 're all gone.Here is the proposal for those who did n't actually bother to RFA : https : //www.fbo.gov/index ? s = opportunity&amp;mode = form&amp;id = bac60f8808fa1e221597573901a7cd6b&amp;tab = core&amp; \ _cview = 1&amp;cck = 1&amp;au = &amp;ck = [ fbo.gov ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did we read the proposal linked from the article?
It specifies PlayStation 3 model CECHP01 which does, indeed, run Linux.
I wondered, though, how successful they are going to be at finding 2,200 units.
Distributors are running out of new/old stock of this model, as many compute cluster builders are trying to get them before they're all gone.Here is the proposal for those who didn't actually bother to RFA:https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&amp;mode=form&amp;id=bac60f8808fa1e221597573901a7cd6b&amp;tab=core&amp;\_cview=1&amp;cck=1&amp;au=&amp;ck= [fbo.gov]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224236</id>
	<title>Getting 2.200 customer computers you mean?</title>
	<author>SmallFurryCreature</author>
	<datestamp>1257160260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>More expensive, and if you need to replace a PS3, simply go to any electronics store, replace a custom part for a custom PC...
</p><p>It is cheaper and more reliable and been tested already so you know it works.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>More expensive , and if you need to replace a PS3 , simply go to any electronics store , replace a custom part for a custom PC.. . It is cheaper and more reliable and been tested already so you know it works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More expensive, and if you need to replace a PS3, simply go to any electronics store, replace a custom part for a custom PC...
It is cheaper and more reliable and been tested already so you know it works.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224998</id>
	<title>How are they being installed?</title>
	<author>Turzyx</author>
	<datestamp>1257170580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I mean, where are they putting them all? Are they actually using them as PS3s (case, PSU and all), or are they ripping the motherboards out and shoving them in a rack of some kind? The former does sound like a rather romantic hack, but surely it is terribly inefficient with power requirements, cooling, cabling, etc?<br>
&nbsp; <br>Or do they just not care because the project was such a bargain (compared to the alternatives)?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I mean , where are they putting them all ?
Are they actually using them as PS3s ( case , PSU and all ) , or are they ripping the motherboards out and shoving them in a rack of some kind ?
The former does sound like a rather romantic hack , but surely it is terribly inefficient with power requirements , cooling , cabling , etc ?
  Or do they just not care because the project was such a bargain ( compared to the alternatives ) ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I mean, where are they putting them all?
Are they actually using them as PS3s (case, PSU and all), or are they ripping the motherboards out and shoving them in a rack of some kind?
The former does sound like a rather romantic hack, but surely it is terribly inefficient with power requirements, cooling, cabling, etc?
  Or do they just not care because the project was such a bargain (compared to the alternatives)?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30226624</id>
	<title>Re:Cell processor</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257180840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Presumably it's not because they use the GPU as well because AFAIK Linux on the PS3 doesn't allow access to use the graphics card, or are they getting custom PS3s?</p></div><p>If all they plan on doing is computation in a cluster environment, then they won't have any need for the graphics system. All they need are CPU cycles.</p><p>The medium for the output is irrelevant.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Presumably it 's not because they use the GPU as well because AFAIK Linux on the PS3 does n't allow access to use the graphics card , or are they getting custom PS3s ? If all they plan on doing is computation in a cluster environment , then they wo n't have any need for the graphics system .
All they need are CPU cycles.The medium for the output is irrelevant .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Presumably it's not because they use the GPU as well because AFAIK Linux on the PS3 doesn't allow access to use the graphics card, or are they getting custom PS3s?If all they plan on doing is computation in a cluster environment, then they won't have any need for the graphics system.
All they need are CPU cycles.The medium for the output is irrelevant.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224054</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30226714</id>
	<title>Re:Wow</title>
	<author>furby076</author>
	<datestamp>1257181200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So what? Just cause it ain't linux doesn't mean it won't do well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So what ?
Just cause it ai n't linux does n't mean it wo n't do well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So what?
Just cause it ain't linux doesn't mean it won't do well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30223914</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224054</id>
	<title>Cell processor</title>
	<author>Xest</author>
	<datestamp>1257158220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We keep hearing these stories, and the reason is that the Cell processor is awesome for this type of work.</p><p>Are we still at the point where we can't get hold of Cell processors for machines specifically designed for this sort of task? Isn't the PS3 a rather inefficient way of doing this rather than a purpose built system or grid of systems, or does it come down to cost in that a purpose built system would just cost far more than a bunch of PS3s? 2200 PS3s is still going to cost, what, half a million?</p><p>Presumably it's not because they use the GPU as well because AFAIK Linux on the PS3 doesn't allow access to use the graphics card, or are they getting custom PS3s?</p><p>There does certainly seem a big market for Cell systems so the future of Cell certainly seems promising in this respect.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We keep hearing these stories , and the reason is that the Cell processor is awesome for this type of work.Are we still at the point where we ca n't get hold of Cell processors for machines specifically designed for this sort of task ?
Is n't the PS3 a rather inefficient way of doing this rather than a purpose built system or grid of systems , or does it come down to cost in that a purpose built system would just cost far more than a bunch of PS3s ?
2200 PS3s is still going to cost , what , half a million ? Presumably it 's not because they use the GPU as well because AFAIK Linux on the PS3 does n't allow access to use the graphics card , or are they getting custom PS3s ? There does certainly seem a big market for Cell systems so the future of Cell certainly seems promising in this respect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We keep hearing these stories, and the reason is that the Cell processor is awesome for this type of work.Are we still at the point where we can't get hold of Cell processors for machines specifically designed for this sort of task?
Isn't the PS3 a rather inefficient way of doing this rather than a purpose built system or grid of systems, or does it come down to cost in that a purpose built system would just cost far more than a bunch of PS3s?
2200 PS3s is still going to cost, what, half a million?Presumably it's not because they use the GPU as well because AFAIK Linux on the PS3 doesn't allow access to use the graphics card, or are they getting custom PS3s?There does certainly seem a big market for Cell systems so the future of Cell certainly seems promising in this respect.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224068</id>
	<title>Re:Wow</title>
	<author>shivamib</author>
	<datestamp>1257158340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>So much for a Beowulf cluster, then.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So much for a Beowulf cluster , then .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So much for a Beowulf cluster, then.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30223914</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30225694</id>
	<title>Budget? We don't need no stinking budget.</title>
	<author>WED Fan</author>
	<datestamp>1257175920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>This is the US Government we're talking about. One of the few entities on the planet where "Budget" is virtually meaningless. Someone sneezes funny and a million dollars goes out the door.</p></div></blockquote><p>I'm a GS-12, I just sneezed funny. It was one of those "choo choo choo choo CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEESE" kind of sneazes. My boss, a GS-14 has put me in for a merit increase, I've been given 25 days of basket leave, and my budget for my new project was just doubled. Quick figuring...yes, a million dollars. I thank you for your tax dollars.</p><p>Seriously, if I may, I understand the power of the PS3 and its specialized abilities, but couldn't this be accomplished using more traditional lash ups?</p><p>I guess what I'm asking, did someone start this out as a "gee, I've 150 extra PS3's that DHS turned over to us from a mob bust, what can we do with them" kind of a project? Did it snowball?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the US Government we 're talking about .
One of the few entities on the planet where " Budget " is virtually meaningless .
Someone sneezes funny and a million dollars goes out the door.I 'm a GS-12 , I just sneezed funny .
It was one of those " choo choo choo choo CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEESE " kind of sneazes .
My boss , a GS-14 has put me in for a merit increase , I 've been given 25 days of basket leave , and my budget for my new project was just doubled .
Quick figuring...yes , a million dollars .
I thank you for your tax dollars.Seriously , if I may , I understand the power of the PS3 and its specialized abilities , but could n't this be accomplished using more traditional lash ups ? I guess what I 'm asking , did someone start this out as a " gee , I 've 150 extra PS3 's that DHS turned over to us from a mob bust , what can we do with them " kind of a project ?
Did it snowball ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the US Government we're talking about.
One of the few entities on the planet where "Budget" is virtually meaningless.
Someone sneezes funny and a million dollars goes out the door.I'm a GS-12, I just sneezed funny.
It was one of those "choo choo choo choo CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEESE" kind of sneazes.
My boss, a GS-14 has put me in for a merit increase, I've been given 25 days of basket leave, and my budget for my new project was just doubled.
Quick figuring...yes, a million dollars.
I thank you for your tax dollars.Seriously, if I may, I understand the power of the PS3 and its specialized abilities, but couldn't this be accomplished using more traditional lash ups?I guess what I'm asking, did someone start this out as a "gee, I've 150 extra PS3's that DHS turned over to us from a mob bust, what can we do with them" kind of a project?
Did it snowball?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224402</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224468</id>
	<title>Re:Wow</title>
	<author>Falcon4</author>
	<datestamp>1257162660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They \_will\_ find a way. There's nothing the Air Force can't do. And that's not even including the "anything" that the US military can't do, either. With that many PS3's on their bill, paying a few hired-hacker Air Force guys to crack it open wouldn't be too hard.</p><p>Then, they'll bring that capability to the masses as another "lol codmw2 suxx on pc give us DS" Airman drops the hack code onto the internet and everyone with a Slim benefits.</p><p>Anything can run Linux. But the real feat would be seeing it run Windows! [/obvious]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They \ _will \ _ find a way .
There 's nothing the Air Force ca n't do .
And that 's not even including the " anything " that the US military ca n't do , either .
With that many PS3 's on their bill , paying a few hired-hacker Air Force guys to crack it open would n't be too hard.Then , they 'll bring that capability to the masses as another " lol codmw2 suxx on pc give us DS " Airman drops the hack code onto the internet and everyone with a Slim benefits.Anything can run Linux .
But the real feat would be seeing it run Windows !
[ /obvious ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They \_will\_ find a way.
There's nothing the Air Force can't do.
And that's not even including the "anything" that the US military can't do, either.
With that many PS3's on their bill, paying a few hired-hacker Air Force guys to crack it open wouldn't be too hard.Then, they'll bring that capability to the masses as another "lol codmw2 suxx on pc give us DS" Airman drops the hack code onto the internet and everyone with a Slim benefits.Anything can run Linux.
But the real feat would be seeing it run Windows!
[/obvious]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30223914</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30223972</id>
	<title>They are actually...</title>
	<author>Anarchduke</author>
	<datestamp>1257157260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Setting up a wickedly awesome lan party for <a href="http://badcompany.ea.com/" title="ea.com">Bad Company 2</a> [ea.com].</htmltext>
<tokenext>Setting up a wickedly awesome lan party for Bad Company 2 [ ea.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Setting up a wickedly awesome lan party for Bad Company 2 [ea.com].</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224544</id>
	<title>Re:Wow</title>
	<author>TheDarAve</author>
	<datestamp>1257163620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just had a scary thought of instead of using linux, they just program a "UAV flight game" and leave them in various Air Force recreation centers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just had a scary thought of instead of using linux , they just program a " UAV flight game " and leave them in various Air Force recreation centers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just had a scary thought of instead of using linux, they just program a "UAV flight game" and leave them in various Air Force recreation centers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30223914</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224034</id>
	<title>Why buy the whole PS3</title>
	<author>mxh83</author>
	<datestamp>1257157920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why do they need the whole PS3.. why don't they just buy the individual components that they need rather than wasting money on all the useless stuff like controllers etc?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do they need the whole PS3.. why do n't they just buy the individual components that they need rather than wasting money on all the useless stuff like controllers etc ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do they need the whole PS3.. why don't they just buy the individual components that they need rather than wasting money on all the useless stuff like controllers etc?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30225700</id>
	<title>Re:Wow</title>
	<author>pky666</author>
	<datestamp>1257175920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It says right in the summary above that they are purchasing old style (non-slim) PS3's.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It says right in the summary above that they are purchasing old style ( non-slim ) PS3 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It says right in the summary above that they are purchasing old style (non-slim) PS3's.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30223914</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224010</id>
	<title>The harder one to explain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257157680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>were the 2,200 copies of the new Guitar Hero.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>were the 2,200 copies of the new Guitar Hero .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>were the 2,200 copies of the new Guitar Hero.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224322</id>
	<title>Re:Why buy the whole PS3</title>
	<author>mathfeel</author>
	<datestamp>1257160980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because as a game console it's sold at below cost?  And at least certain levels of product testing already went into it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because as a game console it 's sold at below cost ?
And at least certain levels of product testing already went into it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because as a game console it's sold at below cost?
And at least certain levels of product testing already went into it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224034</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30225414</id>
	<title>No kidding..</title>
	<author>Storchei</author>
	<datestamp>1257174180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>for research into supercomputing..</p></div><p>
Come oon!! They're preparing a Christmas party! XD</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>for research into supercomputing. . Come oon ! !
They 're preparing a Christmas party !
XD</tokentext>
<sentencetext>for research into supercomputing..
Come oon!!
They're preparing a Christmas party!
XD
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224396</id>
	<title>Not good for the manufacturer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257161820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>These systems are basically guaranteed to not have any software sales attached to it. The USAF is paying retail price, the $300 price tag per.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>These systems are basically guaranteed to not have any software sales attached to it .
The USAF is paying retail price , the $ 300 price tag per .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These systems are basically guaranteed to not have any software sales attached to it.
The USAF is paying retail price, the $300 price tag per.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224592</id>
	<title>Re:Loss for Sony?</title>
	<author>blind biker</author>
	<datestamp>1257164520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Except that Sony is not selling them below production costs. It costs them about $250 apiece to produce.</p><p>Also, if Sony wanted to be angry, "now" is too late already, because the Pande Group (home and founders of Folding@Home) has bought thousands of PS3s for running their protein folding algorithms.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Except that Sony is not selling them below production costs .
It costs them about $ 250 apiece to produce.Also , if Sony wanted to be angry , " now " is too late already , because the Pande Group ( home and founders of Folding @ Home ) has bought thousands of PS3s for running their protein folding algorithms .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except that Sony is not selling them below production costs.
It costs them about $250 apiece to produce.Also, if Sony wanted to be angry, "now" is too late already, because the Pande Group (home and founders of Folding@Home) has bought thousands of PS3s for running their protein folding algorithms.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30223948</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30225666</id>
	<title>Re:Wow</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257175740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And if they are dropping 600k on something they couldnt spring for something like say a couple of dev kits?  I seriously doubt the air force is going to buy that type of dev structure without some sort of 'major contract' behind it for support.</p><p>The military just doesnt work that way...  This is not a one off hack.  They have a goal in mind with it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And if they are dropping 600k on something they couldnt spring for something like say a couple of dev kits ?
I seriously doubt the air force is going to buy that type of dev structure without some sort of 'major contract ' behind it for support.The military just doesnt work that way... This is not a one off hack .
They have a goal in mind with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And if they are dropping 600k on something they couldnt spring for something like say a couple of dev kits?
I seriously doubt the air force is going to buy that type of dev structure without some sort of 'major contract' behind it for support.The military just doesnt work that way...  This is not a one off hack.
They have a goal in mind with it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30223914</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224408</id>
	<title>I can see it now...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257161940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...US Military PS3 Slim cluster bricked after firmware update due to modding and home-brew...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...US Military PS3 Slim cluster bricked after firmware update due to modding and home-brew.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...US Military PS3 Slim cluster bricked after firmware update due to modding and home-brew...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224822</id>
	<title>Re:Why buy the whole PS3</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257168180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why doesn't every large company build their own PCs?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why does n't every large company build their own PCs ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why doesn't every large company build their own PCs?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224034</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224626</id>
	<title>Re:Loss for Sony?</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1257165180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Since Sony's strategy (like Microsoft's) is to sell the consoles below production costs and make money on the games I guess that they are now pretty angry about organizations buying PS3s solely for computing...</p></div>
</blockquote><p>Ahhh, but Sony sold them at <a href="http://www.thefreelibrary.com/\_/print/PrintArticle.aspx?id=4619906" title="thefreelibrary.com">government rates</a> [thefreelibrary.com].</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since Sony 's strategy ( like Microsoft 's ) is to sell the consoles below production costs and make money on the games I guess that they are now pretty angry about organizations buying PS3s solely for computing.. . Ahhh , but Sony sold them at government rates [ thefreelibrary.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since Sony's strategy (like Microsoft's) is to sell the consoles below production costs and make money on the games I guess that they are now pretty angry about organizations buying PS3s solely for computing...
Ahhh, but Sony sold them at government rates [thefreelibrary.com].
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30223948</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30230918</id>
	<title>Re:Wow</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257158760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>PS3's (as well as PS1's and PS2's) already run an embedded Linux, FWIW, and I'm sure that Sony will lift the restrictions (or pre-install) for a custom OS for the Air Force. (It's only software, after all; putting an older PS3 OS on the hard drive should be simple enough).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>PS3 's ( as well as PS1 's and PS2 's ) already run an embedded Linux , FWIW , and I 'm sure that Sony will lift the restrictions ( or pre-install ) for a custom OS for the Air Force .
( It 's only software , after all ; putting an older PS3 OS on the hard drive should be simple enough ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>PS3's (as well as PS1's and PS2's) already run an embedded Linux, FWIW, and I'm sure that Sony will lift the restrictions (or pre-install) for a custom OS for the Air Force.
(It's only software, after all; putting an older PS3 OS on the hard drive should be simple enough).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30228816</id>
	<title>Re:What about EULA?</title>
	<author>kramerd</author>
	<datestamp>1257190980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Doesn't Sony have some terms of agreement that would prohibit the use of their console for things not related to gaming? I mean, isn't there some form of reverse engineering happening in order to write software using all these PS3s?   I'm pretty sure if any normal Joe decided to use 4 or 5 PS3s for something other than it was meant to, there would be a lawsuit coming up so fast.....</p></div><p>Of course not. It might void the warranty if you try to use it to play nintendo wii games by changing the size and shape and hardware of the machine, but what the hell do you think would create a lawsuit from personal use of purchased property?</p><p>Even if Sony somehow could control what you do with a PS3 after purchase (which they can't, won't, don't, and certainly have never tried to do), the PS3 motto is "it only does everything," not 'its a gaming machine and nothing else and if you try to do something else with it, we will sue you.'</p><p>I've heard a lot of stupid crap on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/., but that has to be by far the stupidest in 2009.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does n't Sony have some terms of agreement that would prohibit the use of their console for things not related to gaming ?
I mean , is n't there some form of reverse engineering happening in order to write software using all these PS3s ?
I 'm pretty sure if any normal Joe decided to use 4 or 5 PS3s for something other than it was meant to , there would be a lawsuit coming up so fast.....Of course not .
It might void the warranty if you try to use it to play nintendo wii games by changing the size and shape and hardware of the machine , but what the hell do you think would create a lawsuit from personal use of purchased property ? Even if Sony somehow could control what you do with a PS3 after purchase ( which they ca n't , wo n't , do n't , and certainly have never tried to do ) , the PS3 motto is " it only does everything , " not 'its a gaming machine and nothing else and if you try to do something else with it , we will sue you .
'I 've heard a lot of stupid crap on /. , but that has to be by far the stupidest in 2009 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doesn't Sony have some terms of agreement that would prohibit the use of their console for things not related to gaming?
I mean, isn't there some form of reverse engineering happening in order to write software using all these PS3s?
I'm pretty sure if any normal Joe decided to use 4 or 5 PS3s for something other than it was meant to, there would be a lawsuit coming up so fast.....Of course not.
It might void the warranty if you try to use it to play nintendo wii games by changing the size and shape and hardware of the machine, but what the hell do you think would create a lawsuit from personal use of purchased property?Even if Sony somehow could control what you do with a PS3 after purchase (which they can't, won't, don't, and certainly have never tried to do), the PS3 motto is "it only does everything," not 'its a gaming machine and nothing else and if you try to do something else with it, we will sue you.
'I've heard a lot of stupid crap on /., but that has to be by far the stupidest in 2009.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224700</id>
	<title>Educate me</title>
	<author>ilitirit</author>
	<datestamp>1257166260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't know much anything about neuromorphic computing and synthetic aperture radar image formation etc, but wouldn't it be cheaper to use GPU's instead?  Is there something about these type of computations that make the Cell a better fit?  Or maybe it's that PS3s are easier to attach to the existing infrastructure?
<br>
Someone please explain.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know much anything about neuromorphic computing and synthetic aperture radar image formation etc , but would n't it be cheaper to use GPU 's instead ?
Is there something about these type of computations that make the Cell a better fit ?
Or maybe it 's that PS3s are easier to attach to the existing infrastructure ?
Someone please explain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know much anything about neuromorphic computing and synthetic aperture radar image formation etc, but wouldn't it be cheaper to use GPU's instead?
Is there something about these type of computations that make the Cell a better fit?
Or maybe it's that PS3s are easier to attach to the existing infrastructure?
Someone please explain.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224232</id>
	<title>Black Friday Deals!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257160260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>They should wait for Black Friday, nobody is going to fight the Air Force for a doorbuster...</htmltext>
<tokenext>They should wait for Black Friday , nobody is going to fight the Air Force for a doorbuster.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They should wait for Black Friday, nobody is going to fight the Air Force for a doorbuster...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224168</id>
	<title>Re:Wow</title>
	<author>Rik Sweeney</author>
	<datestamp>1257159420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They already know they don't run Linux, they just to play Uncharted 2 and Demon's Souls.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They already know they do n't run Linux , they just to play Uncharted 2 and Demon 's Souls .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They already know they don't run Linux, they just to play Uncharted 2 and Demon's Souls.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30225422</id>
	<title>They're not for research...</title>
	<author>Linkiroth</author>
	<datestamp>1257174300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...unless that research is playing Tekken 6 in the barracks.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...unless that research is playing Tekken 6 in the barracks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...unless that research is playing Tekken 6 in the barracks.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30227620</id>
	<title>Re:Wow</title>
	<author>wagnerrp</author>
	<datestamp>1257185580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you check out the fbo.gov link in the article, it says they are purchasing units of the CECHP01 SKU, which is a 160GB/65nm variant of the old style which still offered OtherOS support.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you check out the fbo.gov link in the article , it says they are purchasing units of the CECHP01 SKU , which is a 160GB/65nm variant of the old style which still offered OtherOS support .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you check out the fbo.gov link in the article, it says they are purchasing units of the CECHP01 SKU, which is a 160GB/65nm variant of the old style which still offered OtherOS support.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224246</id>
	<title>Two Words:</title>
	<author>ThatsNotFunny</author>
	<datestamp>1257160380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Mon-tage...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Mon-tage.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mon-tage...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30274006</id>
	<title>conventional supercomputers</title>
	<author>t3chn0n3rd</author>
	<datestamp>1259572980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This seems kind of stupid.  Why not just use a regular supercomputer.

This seems like a bunch of little kids playing around</htmltext>
<tokenext>This seems kind of stupid .
Why not just use a regular supercomputer .
This seems like a bunch of little kids playing around</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This seems kind of stupid.
Why not just use a regular supercomputer.
This seems like a bunch of little kids playing around</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30223914</id>
	<title>Wow</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257156420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe someone should tell them the new ones don't run Linux.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe someone should tell them the new ones do n't run Linux .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe someone should tell them the new ones don't run Linux.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30225998</id>
	<title>Re:In the future...</title>
	<author>slipangle</author>
	<datestamp>1257177840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Back around 1996, Pixar bought a bunch of Sun E4000 servers for their renderfarm because they had the most throughput per cubic foot.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Back around 1996 , Pixar bought a bunch of Sun E4000 servers for their renderfarm because they had the most throughput per cubic foot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Back around 1996, Pixar bought a bunch of Sun E4000 servers for their renderfarm because they had the most throughput per cubic foot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224320</id>
	<title>Re:Wow</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257160980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My read on it is that the PS3 does not present a "boot other OS" option. That is different than "does not run Linux"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My read on it is that the PS3 does not present a " boot other OS " option .
That is different than " does not run Linux "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My read on it is that the PS3 does not present a "boot other OS" option.
That is different than "does not run Linux"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224784</id>
	<title>Re:Loss for Sony?</title>
	<author>plasticsquirrel</author>
	<datestamp>1257167580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's very good publicity for the computing power of their console. It's probably better than any lame ad campaign they could do -- natural marketing. "Hey look, our game consoles are being used as a <i>supercomputer</i> by the most advanced military on Earth!" Then it's talked about on all the tech sites, and probably in some magazines and newspapers. That's certainly worth the bit of money they could lose.<br> <br>Besides, who knows what price they're actually paying? As a previous poster pointed out, current retail PS3's can't run Linux. That means the USAF is probably special ordering them from Sony, and probably paying a higher price as a result.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's very good publicity for the computing power of their console .
It 's probably better than any lame ad campaign they could do -- natural marketing .
" Hey look , our game consoles are being used as a supercomputer by the most advanced military on Earth !
" Then it 's talked about on all the tech sites , and probably in some magazines and newspapers .
That 's certainly worth the bit of money they could lose .
Besides , who knows what price they 're actually paying ?
As a previous poster pointed out , current retail PS3 's ca n't run Linux .
That means the USAF is probably special ordering them from Sony , and probably paying a higher price as a result .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's very good publicity for the computing power of their console.
It's probably better than any lame ad campaign they could do -- natural marketing.
"Hey look, our game consoles are being used as a supercomputer by the most advanced military on Earth!
" Then it's talked about on all the tech sites, and probably in some magazines and newspapers.
That's certainly worth the bit of money they could lose.
Besides, who knows what price they're actually paying?
As a previous poster pointed out, current retail PS3's can't run Linux.
That means the USAF is probably special ordering them from Sony, and probably paying a higher price as a result.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30225314</id>
	<title>Amazing!</title>
	<author>bytethese</author>
	<datestamp>1257173580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I didn't know Skynet was made of PS3's...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I did n't know Skynet was made of PS3 's.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I didn't know Skynet was made of PS3's...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30225128</id>
	<title>Re:Black Friday Deals!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257172080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You sure about that? I've been to a few walmart doorbusters, al-qaeda terrorist are less threatening than an angry black friday mob.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You sure about that ?
I 've been to a few walmart doorbusters , al-qaeda terrorist are less threatening than an angry black friday mob .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You sure about that?
I've been to a few walmart doorbusters, al-qaeda terrorist are less threatening than an angry black friday mob.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30227202</id>
	<title>Re:Wow</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257183540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't see many Beowulf clusters anymore... 'cluster' could be any manner of grouped computers, don't necessarily need custom kernels to do that.  Even if these systems were running Linux, with only a GigE interconnect they wouldn't be blazing fast for multi-node jobs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't see many Beowulf clusters anymore... 'cluster ' could be any manner of grouped computers , do n't necessarily need custom kernels to do that .
Even if these systems were running Linux , with only a GigE interconnect they would n't be blazing fast for multi-node jobs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't see many Beowulf clusters anymore... 'cluster' could be any manner of grouped computers, don't necessarily need custom kernels to do that.
Even if these systems were running Linux, with only a GigE interconnect they wouldn't be blazing fast for multi-node jobs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30265842</id>
	<title>Re:Wow</title>
	<author>Nutria</author>
	<datestamp>1259509920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>recreation centers</i> or <b>recruiting stations</b>?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>recreation centers or recruiting stations ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>recreation centers or recruiting stations?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224040</id>
	<title>Re:Loss for Sony?</title>
	<author>cpscotti</author>
	<datestamp>1257157980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>OTOH, 2,200 consoles are really not a big issue for Sony and this really goes off as a GOOD publicity campaign! <br>
Like those kids discussing at the school:<br>
Harold: "My console is better than yours coz cheaters/modders can't play live!!"<br>
Kumar: "No! mine is better!! It is so much more powerful that the air force is using fields of those to kill the 'bad' guys!!"</htmltext>
<tokenext>OTOH , 2,200 consoles are really not a big issue for Sony and this really goes off as a GOOD publicity campaign !
Like those kids discussing at the school : Harold : " My console is better than yours coz cheaters/modders ca n't play live ! !
" Kumar : " No !
mine is better ! !
It is so much more powerful that the air force is using fields of those to kill the 'bad ' guys ! !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OTOH, 2,200 consoles are really not a big issue for Sony and this really goes off as a GOOD publicity campaign!
Like those kids discussing at the school:
Harold: "My console is better than yours coz cheaters/modders can't play live!!
"
Kumar: "No!
mine is better!!
It is so much more powerful that the air force is using fields of those to kill the 'bad' guys!!
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30225444</id>
	<title>Re:Cell processor</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257174420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dwarf Fortress is binary only and there are no PPC Linux binaries.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dwarf Fortress is binary only and there are no PPC Linux binaries .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dwarf Fortress is binary only and there are no PPC Linux binaries.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30248632</id>
	<title>well</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259314800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think that this Playstation 3 cluster business is nothing short of spectacular.</p><p>Where else can you ever see a more mutual benefit than all of a sudden finding a high priced console to be an EXTREMELY cheap alternative option to supercomputing costs normally and where Sony can sell a ton of PS3's at one time?</p><p>LOL, it's win-win and everyone benefits.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that this Playstation 3 cluster business is nothing short of spectacular.Where else can you ever see a more mutual benefit than all of a sudden finding a high priced console to be an EXTREMELY cheap alternative option to supercomputing costs normally and where Sony can sell a ton of PS3 's at one time ? LOL , it 's win-win and everyone benefits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that this Playstation 3 cluster business is nothing short of spectacular.Where else can you ever see a more mutual benefit than all of a sudden finding a high priced console to be an EXTREMELY cheap alternative option to supercomputing costs normally and where Sony can sell a ton of PS3's at one time?LOL, it's win-win and everyone benefits.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224152</id>
	<title>Re:Loss for Sony?</title>
	<author>KibibyteBrain</author>
	<datestamp>1257159240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not only is this good publicity for Sony, but it boosts their sales numbers which makes the PS3 more attractive for planners at game dev houses scoping out which projects should target which consoles. That is small cash for big returns, as I'm guessing at this point Microsoft and Sony are far more concerned at winning game deals from each other than selling a few extra finished games.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not only is this good publicity for Sony , but it boosts their sales numbers which makes the PS3 more attractive for planners at game dev houses scoping out which projects should target which consoles .
That is small cash for big returns , as I 'm guessing at this point Microsoft and Sony are far more concerned at winning game deals from each other than selling a few extra finished games .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not only is this good publicity for Sony, but it boosts their sales numbers which makes the PS3 more attractive for planners at game dev houses scoping out which projects should target which consoles.
That is small cash for big returns, as I'm guessing at this point Microsoft and Sony are far more concerned at winning game deals from each other than selling a few extra finished games.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224244</id>
	<title>Re:Cell processor</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257160380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Didn't you hear? IBM have effectively killed the Cell.</p><p>End of the line for IBM's Cell<br>IBM has revealed that the Cell processor line is an evolutionary dead-end. Some of the ideas behind it will live on, but the Cell family itself will not<br><a href="http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2009/11/end-of-the-line-for-ibms-cell.ars" title="arstechnica.com" rel="nofollow">Ars Technica</a> [arstechnica.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did n't you hear ?
IBM have effectively killed the Cell.End of the line for IBM 's CellIBM has revealed that the Cell processor line is an evolutionary dead-end .
Some of the ideas behind it will live on , but the Cell family itself will notArs Technica [ arstechnica.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Didn't you hear?
IBM have effectively killed the Cell.End of the line for IBM's CellIBM has revealed that the Cell processor line is an evolutionary dead-end.
Some of the ideas behind it will live on, but the Cell family itself will notArs Technica [arstechnica.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30228320</id>
	<title>Re:Loss for Sony?</title>
	<author>interploy</author>
	<datestamp>1257188880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Or maybe it's because even with organizations buying in bulk they still can't outsell the Wii?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or maybe it 's because even with organizations buying in bulk they still ca n't outsell the Wii ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or maybe it's because even with organizations buying in bulk they still can't outsell the Wii?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30227558</id>
	<title>What about EULA?</title>
	<author>houbou</author>
	<datestamp>1257185460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Doesn't Sony have some terms of agreement that would prohibit the use of their console for things not related to gaming? I mean, isn't there some form of reverse engineering happening in order to write software using all these PS3s?   I'm pretty sure if any normal Joe decided to use 4 or 5 PS3s for something other than it was meant to, there would be a lawsuit coming up so fast.....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does n't Sony have some terms of agreement that would prohibit the use of their console for things not related to gaming ?
I mean , is n't there some form of reverse engineering happening in order to write software using all these PS3s ?
I 'm pretty sure if any normal Joe decided to use 4 or 5 PS3s for something other than it was meant to , there would be a lawsuit coming up so fast.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doesn't Sony have some terms of agreement that would prohibit the use of their console for things not related to gaming?
I mean, isn't there some form of reverse engineering happening in order to write software using all these PS3s?
I'm pretty sure if any normal Joe decided to use 4 or 5 PS3s for something other than it was meant to, there would be a lawsuit coming up so fast.....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30225346</id>
	<title>Re:Wow</title>
	<author>PsyciatricHelp</author>
	<datestamp>1257173760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What  no legal action.  Companies get pissed when we the users change hardware we buy to better suite our needs. I wonder if anyone will go after them for modding their devices. I want to hear no more complaints about modded devices such as my jailbroken iPhone.


On another note thats such a waste of 2500 Blue ray drives.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What no legal action .
Companies get pissed when we the users change hardware we buy to better suite our needs .
I wonder if anyone will go after them for modding their devices .
I want to hear no more complaints about modded devices such as my jailbroken iPhone .
On another note thats such a waste of 2500 Blue ray drives .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What  no legal action.
Companies get pissed when we the users change hardware we buy to better suite our needs.
I wonder if anyone will go after them for modding their devices.
I want to hear no more complaints about modded devices such as my jailbroken iPhone.
On another note thats such a waste of 2500 Blue ray drives.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224496</id>
	<title>neuromorphic computing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257163020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Neuromorphic engineering is a new interdisciplinary discipline that takes inspiration from biology, physics, mathematics, computer science and engineering to design artificial neural systems, such as vision systems, head-eye systems, auditory processors, and autonomous robots, whose physical architecture and design principles are based on those of biological nervous systems." from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromorphic" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromorphic</a> [wikipedia.org] <br> <br>
Anyone got any more links?</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Neuromorphic engineering is a new interdisciplinary discipline that takes inspiration from biology , physics , mathematics , computer science and engineering to design artificial neural systems , such as vision systems , head-eye systems , auditory processors , and autonomous robots , whose physical architecture and design principles are based on those of biological nervous systems .
" from http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromorphic [ wikipedia.org ] Anyone got any more links ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Neuromorphic engineering is a new interdisciplinary discipline that takes inspiration from biology, physics, mathematics, computer science and engineering to design artificial neural systems, such as vision systems, head-eye systems, auditory processors, and autonomous robots, whose physical architecture and design principles are based on those of biological nervous systems.
" from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromorphic [wikipedia.org]  
Anyone got any more links?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224332</id>
	<title>Re:Why buy the whole PS3</title>
	<author>yogibaer</author>
	<datestamp>1257161040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's an interesting point. You do not need the blue ray drive either and a lot of other components as well (harddisk, antennas etc. see here: <a href="http://www.gamepro.com/article/features/211942/how-to-take-apart-the-ps3-slim-in-6-steps-page-2/" title="gamepro.com">http://www.gamepro.com/article/features/211942/how-to-take-apart-the-ps3-slim-in-6-steps-page-2/</a> [gamepro.com])  It would be a lot of work but for a system this massive it could even make sense to build a custom frame for the mainboards only (power consumption? Cooling? Space?)  and use some kind of flash drive for the OS. Buying just the mainboards could make sense, I guess.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's an interesting point .
You do not need the blue ray drive either and a lot of other components as well ( harddisk , antennas etc .
see here : http : //www.gamepro.com/article/features/211942/how-to-take-apart-the-ps3-slim-in-6-steps-page-2/ [ gamepro.com ] ) It would be a lot of work but for a system this massive it could even make sense to build a custom frame for the mainboards only ( power consumption ?
Cooling ? Space ?
) and use some kind of flash drive for the OS .
Buying just the mainboards could make sense , I guess .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's an interesting point.
You do not need the blue ray drive either and a lot of other components as well (harddisk, antennas etc.
see here: http://www.gamepro.com/article/features/211942/how-to-take-apart-the-ps3-slim-in-6-steps-page-2/ [gamepro.com])  It would be a lot of work but for a system this massive it could even make sense to build a custom frame for the mainboards only (power consumption?
Cooling? Space?
)  and use some kind of flash drive for the OS.
Buying just the mainboards could make sense, I guess.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30227412</id>
	<title>Re:Why don't they get some Cell CPU boards</title>
	<author>SnarfQuest</author>
	<datestamp>1257184680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And, having purchased the complete system instead of the board, they save $6300 on each CPU included in the cluster. Plus, when they are done with the system, a lot of Air Force kids are going to have a great Christmas.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And , having purchased the complete system instead of the board , they save $ 6300 on each CPU included in the cluster .
Plus , when they are done with the system , a lot of Air Force kids are going to have a great Christmas .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And, having purchased the complete system instead of the board, they save $6300 on each CPU included in the cluster.
Plus, when they are done with the system, a lot of Air Force kids are going to have a great Christmas.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30231834</id>
	<title>Re:What about EULA?</title>
	<author>CronoCloud</author>
	<datestamp>1257165420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How many times do I have to post this.  Installing and booting into Linux on the Fat PS3 is a function fully supported by Sony, the option is right there in the System menu.</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux\_on\_the\_PlayStation\_3" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux\_on\_the\_PlayStation\_3</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>When I got my PS3 last year, I had Linux installed on it within 24 hours.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How many times do I have to post this .
Installing and booting into Linux on the Fat PS3 is a function fully supported by Sony , the option is right there in the System menu.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux \ _on \ _the \ _PlayStation \ _3 [ wikipedia.org ] When I got my PS3 last year , I had Linux installed on it within 24 hours .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many times do I have to post this.
Installing and booting into Linux on the Fat PS3 is a function fully supported by Sony, the option is right there in the System menu.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux\_on\_the\_PlayStation\_3 [wikipedia.org]When I got my PS3 last year, I had Linux installed on it within 24 hours.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30225252</id>
	<title>The air force can get around that or they can get</title>
	<author>Joe The Dragon</author>
	<datestamp>1257173220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The air force can get around that or they can get Sony to unlock that as well as giving them full gpu power as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The air force can get around that or they can get Sony to unlock that as well as giving them full gpu power as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The air force can get around that or they can get Sony to unlock that as well as giving them full gpu power as well.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224306</id>
	<title>Re:Loss for Sony?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257160860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was wondering why they buy Japanese and not American hardware, thanks for providing this explanation.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was wondering why they buy Japanese and not American hardware , thanks for providing this explanation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was wondering why they buy Japanese and not American hardware, thanks for providing this explanation.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30223958</id>
	<title>In the future...</title>
	<author>Braintrust</author>
	<datestamp>1257157020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...processing power will be purchased in units of physical volume.</p><p>These units will be named something clever. They will come in different flavors.</p><p>They will be designed as components; primarily used to comprise a greater whole.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...processing power will be purchased in units of physical volume.These units will be named something clever .
They will come in different flavors.They will be designed as components ; primarily used to comprise a greater whole .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...processing power will be purchased in units of physical volume.These units will be named something clever.
They will come in different flavors.They will be designed as components; primarily used to comprise a greater whole.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224266</id>
	<title>Re:Wow</title>
	<author>AbRASiON</author>
	<datestamp>1257160500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's a genuinely good point, I wonder if Sony would help them out on this or if they are getting the old one or what?<br>I don't have much of a use for linux on mine TBH, it was far too goddamn slow (and I'm no linux guru) it really does need 1gb or more of ram, then she'd be fine.<br>That being said, sucks for researchers who wanted this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's a genuinely good point , I wonder if Sony would help them out on this or if they are getting the old one or what ? I do n't have much of a use for linux on mine TBH , it was far too goddamn slow ( and I 'm no linux guru ) it really does need 1gb or more of ram , then she 'd be fine.That being said , sucks for researchers who wanted this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's a genuinely good point, I wonder if Sony would help them out on this or if they are getting the old one or what?I don't have much of a use for linux on mine TBH, it was far too goddamn slow (and I'm no linux guru) it really does need 1gb or more of ram, then she'd be fine.That being said, sucks for researchers who wanted this.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30226704</id>
	<title>Re:Loss for Sony?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257181140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Since Sony's strategy (like Microsoft's) is to sell the consoles below production costs and make money on the games I guess that they are now pretty angry about organizations buying PS3s solely for computing...</p></div><p>While I agree with you, too fucking bad! If sony doesn't have a viable business plan, it's not consumers (ie: the chair force's) fault.<br>I just hope we don't see some lame excuses trotted out for Sony "needing" a bailout in 6 months time.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since Sony 's strategy ( like Microsoft 's ) is to sell the consoles below production costs and make money on the games I guess that they are now pretty angry about organizations buying PS3s solely for computing...While I agree with you , too fucking bad !
If sony does n't have a viable business plan , it 's not consumers ( ie : the chair force 's ) fault.I just hope we do n't see some lame excuses trotted out for Sony " needing " a bailout in 6 months time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since Sony's strategy (like Microsoft's) is to sell the consoles below production costs and make money on the games I guess that they are now pretty angry about organizations buying PS3s solely for computing...While I agree with you, too fucking bad!
If sony doesn't have a viable business plan, it's not consumers (ie: the chair force's) fault.I just hope we don't see some lame excuses trotted out for Sony "needing" a bailout in 6 months time.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224598</id>
	<title>Good luck with that</title>
	<author>Jewbird</author>
	<datestamp>1257164580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm sure you can find eager young grad students in front of Home Depot to program it and defeat al Qaeda through sheer patriotism.  Faggots.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure you can find eager young grad students in front of Home Depot to program it and defeat al Qaeda through sheer patriotism .
Faggots .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure you can find eager young grad students in front of Home Depot to program it and defeat al Qaeda through sheer patriotism.
Faggots.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30223948</id>
	<title>Loss for Sony?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257156840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since Sony's strategy (like Microsoft's) is to sell the consoles below production costs and make money on the games I guess that they are now pretty angry about organizations buying PS3s solely for computing...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since Sony 's strategy ( like Microsoft 's ) is to sell the consoles below production costs and make money on the games I guess that they are now pretty angry about organizations buying PS3s solely for computing.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since Sony's strategy (like Microsoft's) is to sell the consoles below production costs and make money on the games I guess that they are now pretty angry about organizations buying PS3s solely for computing...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30225994</id>
	<title>Re:Wow</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257177840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe they are not buying new ones.  I would guess a group the size of the Air Force could troll Craiglist for all the PS3s (only used one time!) they could ever want.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe they are not buying new ones .
I would guess a group the size of the Air Force could troll Craiglist for all the PS3s ( only used one time !
) they could ever want .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe they are not buying new ones.
I would guess a group the size of the Air Force could troll Craiglist for all the PS3s (only used one time!
) they could ever want.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30224154</id>
	<title>any PS3 will do...</title>
	<author>NimbleSquirrel</author>
	<datestamp>1257159240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The non-slim PS3s could run linux, but it was crippled you couldn't access the RSX directly. I'd say that these PS3s would be cheap slim models. At the very least, the USAF would have PS3 dev kits to let them write code that would access the RSX directly (not through some silly hypervisor). They probably even pulled a few strings and got Sony to change the PS3 system software to let them do what they want with the hardware.</p><p>Some people have said that Sony must be pissed as they lose money on each sale, but 2,200 consoles is effectively nothing to them in terms of monthly sales numbers. Sony get to move on some stock, they get a few more console sales to wave at their shareholders, and they get some good press that is worth more than the price of 2,200 consoles. In saying that, I imagine they charged the USAF full price for a PS3 dev kit or two.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The non-slim PS3s could run linux , but it was crippled you could n't access the RSX directly .
I 'd say that these PS3s would be cheap slim models .
At the very least , the USAF would have PS3 dev kits to let them write code that would access the RSX directly ( not through some silly hypervisor ) .
They probably even pulled a few strings and got Sony to change the PS3 system software to let them do what they want with the hardware.Some people have said that Sony must be pissed as they lose money on each sale , but 2,200 consoles is effectively nothing to them in terms of monthly sales numbers .
Sony get to move on some stock , they get a few more console sales to wave at their shareholders , and they get some good press that is worth more than the price of 2,200 consoles .
In saying that , I imagine they charged the USAF full price for a PS3 dev kit or two .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The non-slim PS3s could run linux, but it was crippled you couldn't access the RSX directly.
I'd say that these PS3s would be cheap slim models.
At the very least, the USAF would have PS3 dev kits to let them write code that would access the RSX directly (not through some silly hypervisor).
They probably even pulled a few strings and got Sony to change the PS3 system software to let them do what they want with the hardware.Some people have said that Sony must be pissed as they lose money on each sale, but 2,200 consoles is effectively nothing to them in terms of monthly sales numbers.
Sony get to move on some stock, they get a few more console sales to wave at their shareholders, and they get some good press that is worth more than the price of 2,200 consoles.
In saying that, I imagine they charged the USAF full price for a PS3 dev kit or two.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30225520</id>
	<title>Re:Not much stopping them really</title>
	<author>jeffmeden</author>
	<datestamp>1257174900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the budget really isn't in question, wouldn't they be looking into the blade server version of the cell processor, you know, the one that powers a good many of the supercomputers on the top500 list?  As it is, this is PURELY a budget decision.  Playstation 3 units at $300 per cpu node beats the HELL out of $1000-2000 or more per node for the conventional computing version.  Add to that the fact that Sony still takes a loss on every PS3 unit that goes out the door, meaning it's basically a Sony subsidized supercomputer for a fraction of what a legit one would cost.  This is nothing more than a well publicized exercise in unconventional supercomputing on a shoestring.  Hats off to the Air Force, I for one am looking forward to some nice pictures of row after row of glimmering black PS3s with heat ripples coming off of them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the budget really is n't in question , would n't they be looking into the blade server version of the cell processor , you know , the one that powers a good many of the supercomputers on the top500 list ?
As it is , this is PURELY a budget decision .
Playstation 3 units at $ 300 per cpu node beats the HELL out of $ 1000-2000 or more per node for the conventional computing version .
Add to that the fact that Sony still takes a loss on every PS3 unit that goes out the door , meaning it 's basically a Sony subsidized supercomputer for a fraction of what a legit one would cost .
This is nothing more than a well publicized exercise in unconventional supercomputing on a shoestring .
Hats off to the Air Force , I for one am looking forward to some nice pictures of row after row of glimmering black PS3s with heat ripples coming off of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the budget really isn't in question, wouldn't they be looking into the blade server version of the cell processor, you know, the one that powers a good many of the supercomputers on the top500 list?
As it is, this is PURELY a budget decision.
Playstation 3 units at $300 per cpu node beats the HELL out of $1000-2000 or more per node for the conventional computing version.
Add to that the fact that Sony still takes a loss on every PS3 unit that goes out the door, meaning it's basically a Sony subsidized supercomputer for a fraction of what a legit one would cost.
This is nothing more than a well publicized exercise in unconventional supercomputing on a shoestring.
Hats off to the Air Force, I for one am looking forward to some nice pictures of row after row of glimmering black PS3s with heat ripples coming off of them.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0527205.30225090</id>
	<title>Re:Wow</title>
	<author>n1ckml007</author>
	<datestamp>1257171660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Does anyone think the movie "Toys" was rather prescient?  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toys\_(film)/" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toys\_(film)/</a> [wikipedia.org]

Kids flying UAVs via a video game.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anyone think the movie " Toys " was rather prescient ?
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toys \ _ ( film ) / [ wikipedia.org ] Kids flying UAVs via a video game .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anyone think the movie "Toys" was rather prescient?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toys\_(film)/ [wikipedia.org]

Kids flying UAVs via a video game.</sentencetext>
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