<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_25_0014249</id>
	<title>Shedding Your Identity In the Digital Age</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1259165460000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>newscloud writes <i>"Writer Evan Ratliff tells <a href="http://www.wired.com/vanish/2009/11/ff\_vanish2/1/">how he managed to hide</a> from crowdsourced searchers for 27 days. The first person to find him and photograph him <a href="//yro.slashdot.org/story/09/08/19/1626217/Wired-Writer-Disappears-Find-Him-and-Make-5k">would claim a $5,000 prize</a>. In addition to hiding out as a roadie with indy band 'The Hermit Thrushes' for a week, Ratliff donned a variety of <a href="http://www.wired.com/vanish/2009/11/evans-daily-costume-change/">increasingly impressive disguises</a>. It's an interesting read on how to disappear in the digital age: 'August 13, 6:40 PM: I'm driving East out of San Francisco on I-80, fleeing my life under the cover of dusk. Having come to the interstate by a circuitous route, full of quick turns and double backs, I'm reasonably sure that no one is following me. I keep checking the rearview mirror anyway. From this point on, there's no such thing as sure. Being too sure will get me caught. About 25 minutes later, as the California Department of Transportation database will record, my green 1999 Honda Civic, California plates 4MUN509, passes through the tollbooth on the far side of the Carquinez Bridge, setting off the FasTrak toll device, and continues east toward Lake Tahoe. What the digital trail will not reflect is that a few miles past the bridge I pull off the road, detach the FasTrak, and stuff it into the duffle bag in my trunk, where its signal can't be detected. There will be no digital record that at 4 AM I hit Primm, Nevada, a sad little gambling town about 40 minutes from Vegas, where $15 cash gets me a room with a view of a gravel pile...' Spoiler alert: We previously discussed the <a href="//yro.slashdot.org/story/09/09/09/1422223/How-Wireds-Hiding-Writer-Was-Found">denouement of the contest</a>."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>newscloud writes " Writer Evan Ratliff tells how he managed to hide from crowdsourced searchers for 27 days .
The first person to find him and photograph him would claim a $ 5,000 prize .
In addition to hiding out as a roadie with indy band 'The Hermit Thrushes ' for a week , Ratliff donned a variety of increasingly impressive disguises .
It 's an interesting read on how to disappear in the digital age : 'August 13 , 6 : 40 PM : I 'm driving East out of San Francisco on I-80 , fleeing my life under the cover of dusk .
Having come to the interstate by a circuitous route , full of quick turns and double backs , I 'm reasonably sure that no one is following me .
I keep checking the rearview mirror anyway .
From this point on , there 's no such thing as sure .
Being too sure will get me caught .
About 25 minutes later , as the California Department of Transportation database will record , my green 1999 Honda Civic , California plates 4MUN509 , passes through the tollbooth on the far side of the Carquinez Bridge , setting off the FasTrak toll device , and continues east toward Lake Tahoe .
What the digital trail will not reflect is that a few miles past the bridge I pull off the road , detach the FasTrak , and stuff it into the duffle bag in my trunk , where its signal ca n't be detected .
There will be no digital record that at 4 AM I hit Primm , Nevada , a sad little gambling town about 40 minutes from Vegas , where $ 15 cash gets me a room with a view of a gravel pile... ' Spoiler alert : We previously discussed the denouement of the contest .
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<sentencetext>newscloud writes "Writer Evan Ratliff tells how he managed to hide from crowdsourced searchers for 27 days.
The first person to find him and photograph him would claim a $5,000 prize.
In addition to hiding out as a roadie with indy band 'The Hermit Thrushes' for a week, Ratliff donned a variety of increasingly impressive disguises.
It's an interesting read on how to disappear in the digital age: 'August 13, 6:40 PM: I'm driving East out of San Francisco on I-80, fleeing my life under the cover of dusk.
Having come to the interstate by a circuitous route, full of quick turns and double backs, I'm reasonably sure that no one is following me.
I keep checking the rearview mirror anyway.
From this point on, there's no such thing as sure.
Being too sure will get me caught.
About 25 minutes later, as the California Department of Transportation database will record, my green 1999 Honda Civic, California plates 4MUN509, passes through the tollbooth on the far side of the Carquinez Bridge, setting off the FasTrak toll device, and continues east toward Lake Tahoe.
What the digital trail will not reflect is that a few miles past the bridge I pull off the road, detach the FasTrak, and stuff it into the duffle bag in my trunk, where its signal can't be detected.
There will be no digital record that at 4 AM I hit Primm, Nevada, a sad little gambling town about 40 minutes from Vegas, where $15 cash gets me a room with a view of a gravel pile...' Spoiler alert: We previously discussed the denouement of the contest.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30225362</id>
	<title>they sorta cheated</title>
	<author>ProfBooty</author>
	<datestamp>1257173880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I heard an interview on NPR yesterday detailing some of the rules.</p><p>They were able to find him because the wired guy "leaked" info regarding places that Evan had to show up at. At wired, they apparently get the NYT crossword puzzle one week in advance. Anyways, if someone solved part of the puzzle they could make Evan preform the same thing as what was listed as the clue in the crossword puzzle.</p><p>In this case, it was go to a book club event. It becomes way easier if you know where the person will be.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I heard an interview on NPR yesterday detailing some of the rules.They were able to find him because the wired guy " leaked " info regarding places that Evan had to show up at .
At wired , they apparently get the NYT crossword puzzle one week in advance .
Anyways , if someone solved part of the puzzle they could make Evan preform the same thing as what was listed as the clue in the crossword puzzle.In this case , it was go to a book club event .
It becomes way easier if you know where the person will be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I heard an interview on NPR yesterday detailing some of the rules.They were able to find him because the wired guy "leaked" info regarding places that Evan had to show up at.
At wired, they apparently get the NYT crossword puzzle one week in advance.
Anyways, if someone solved part of the puzzle they could make Evan preform the same thing as what was listed as the clue in the crossword puzzle.In this case, it was go to a book club event.
It becomes way easier if you know where the person will be.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30223794</id>
	<title>Re:Hiding from the government is different.</title>
	<author>jamesh</author>
	<datestamp>1257155220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Where's Osama?</p></div><p>Hmmm... has the government thought of checking the logs of the 'Where's Osama?' facebook page? There might be some useful clues in there.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Where 's Osama ? Hmmm... has the government thought of checking the logs of the 'Where 's Osama ?
' facebook page ?
There might be some useful clues in there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where's Osama?Hmmm... has the government thought of checking the logs of the 'Where's Osama?
' facebook page?
There might be some useful clues in there.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30223734</id>
	<title>Hiding is not vanishing</title>
	<author>DNS-and-BIND</author>
	<datestamp>1257154380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wish the media would stop using the words "vanished" or "disappeared" in regards to missing persons or people who do not wish to be found.  People do not vanish, they are there the whole time if you know where to look.  The photoshopped stills accompanying the article are certainly no help.  This confusion of thinking is really bad IMO. <p>I'm rather surprised he got into a hostel, the one I tried in Venice Beach a while back demanded a passport instead of the valid ID that I presented - evidently the desk clerk didn't like my looks (I was a wandering longhair at the time) and I was denied service, just like you hear the old stories about lunch counters or the new stories about British soldiers.</p><p>PS the classic counter-surveillance technique is three right turns in a row.  If the same car is still in your rearview mirror, you can be pretty sure they're following you.  Detecting surveillance is one thing, evading it quite another.  Of course, these days they just stick a GPS tracker on your car, which is why you need to go into an underground structure and change vehicles.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wish the media would stop using the words " vanished " or " disappeared " in regards to missing persons or people who do not wish to be found .
People do not vanish , they are there the whole time if you know where to look .
The photoshopped stills accompanying the article are certainly no help .
This confusion of thinking is really bad IMO .
I 'm rather surprised he got into a hostel , the one I tried in Venice Beach a while back demanded a passport instead of the valid ID that I presented - evidently the desk clerk did n't like my looks ( I was a wandering longhair at the time ) and I was denied service , just like you hear the old stories about lunch counters or the new stories about British soldiers.PS the classic counter-surveillance technique is three right turns in a row .
If the same car is still in your rearview mirror , you can be pretty sure they 're following you .
Detecting surveillance is one thing , evading it quite another .
Of course , these days they just stick a GPS tracker on your car , which is why you need to go into an underground structure and change vehicles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wish the media would stop using the words "vanished" or "disappeared" in regards to missing persons or people who do not wish to be found.
People do not vanish, they are there the whole time if you know where to look.
The photoshopped stills accompanying the article are certainly no help.
This confusion of thinking is really bad IMO.
I'm rather surprised he got into a hostel, the one I tried in Venice Beach a while back demanded a passport instead of the valid ID that I presented - evidently the desk clerk didn't like my looks (I was a wandering longhair at the time) and I was denied service, just like you hear the old stories about lunch counters or the new stories about British soldiers.PS the classic counter-surveillance technique is three right turns in a row.
If the same car is still in your rearview mirror, you can be pretty sure they're following you.
Detecting surveillance is one thing, evading it quite another.
Of course, these days they just stick a GPS tracker on your car, which is why you need to go into an underground structure and change vehicles.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30225112</id>
	<title>Re:Hiding from the government is different.</title>
	<author>moeinvt</author>
	<datestamp>1257171900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"... in my experience if someone is actually wanted by the police they tend to be found pretty quickly."</p><p>How many times have you been caught?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" ... in my experience if someone is actually wanted by the police they tend to be found pretty quickly .
" How many times have you been caught ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"... in my experience if someone is actually wanted by the police they tend to be found pretty quickly.
"How many times have you been caught?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30223382</id>
	<title>Did we learn anything?</title>
	<author>Requiem18th</author>
	<datestamp>1259092620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The epilogue in TFA says ordinary people can find a lot about you legally and I want to know, how? It seems like Thompson, his boss, posted every detail about his bank transactions and regularly posted his IP and I guess gave full access to most of his social networks to the hunters.</p><p>Without these obvious markers how could some random guy get access to this data? Is the lesson that you really have no privacy or just that you shouldn't give your password to you boss??</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The epilogue in TFA says ordinary people can find a lot about you legally and I want to know , how ?
It seems like Thompson , his boss , posted every detail about his bank transactions and regularly posted his IP and I guess gave full access to most of his social networks to the hunters.Without these obvious markers how could some random guy get access to this data ?
Is the lesson that you really have no privacy or just that you should n't give your password to you boss ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The epilogue in TFA says ordinary people can find a lot about you legally and I want to know, how?
It seems like Thompson, his boss, posted every detail about his bank transactions and regularly posted his IP and I guess gave full access to most of his social networks to the hunters.Without these obvious markers how could some random guy get access to this data?
Is the lesson that you really have no privacy or just that you shouldn't give your password to you boss?
?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30222712</id>
	<title>I think if you're really trying to hide....</title>
	<author>caferace</author>
	<datestamp>1259082900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>... (and I did RTFA and the ones before) that getting offline (both 'net and financially) would be a wise thing. Seems like most people get tripped up by that, out of curiosity, cash troubles and loneliness. <br> <br>-jim</htmltext>
<tokenext>... ( and I did RTFA and the ones before ) that getting offline ( both 'net and financially ) would be a wise thing .
Seems like most people get tripped up by that , out of curiosity , cash troubles and loneliness .
-jim</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... (and I did RTFA and the ones before) that getting offline (both 'net and financially) would be a wise thing.
Seems like most people get tripped up by that, out of curiosity, cash troubles and loneliness.
-jim</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30222998</id>
	<title>You can't find everything online..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259086380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I understand he had to keep logging on to give the hunters at least some hints...</p><p>But</p><p>Things would have been 100 times simpler if he just didn't have a laptop or used his ATM cards. If he just pulled out all his cash,smashed the laptops and hit the road no one would be even able to tell what state he is in. He would have been able to go to where ever and make new real life friends. Every lead the hunters got was from weblogs and social networking posts.</p><p>If your addicted to the internet then ya... you can't hide forever. But if your a normal person with half a brain and CASH you can very easily get lost in the noise.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I understand he had to keep logging on to give the hunters at least some hints...ButThings would have been 100 times simpler if he just did n't have a laptop or used his ATM cards .
If he just pulled out all his cash,smashed the laptops and hit the road no one would be even able to tell what state he is in .
He would have been able to go to where ever and make new real life friends .
Every lead the hunters got was from weblogs and social networking posts.If your addicted to the internet then ya... you ca n't hide forever .
But if your a normal person with half a brain and CASH you can very easily get lost in the noise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I understand he had to keep logging on to give the hunters at least some hints...ButThings would have been 100 times simpler if he just didn't have a laptop or used his ATM cards.
If he just pulled out all his cash,smashed the laptops and hit the road no one would be even able to tell what state he is in.
He would have been able to go to where ever and make new real life friends.
Every lead the hunters got was from weblogs and social networking posts.If your addicted to the internet then ya... you can't hide forever.
But if your a normal person with half a brain and CASH you can very easily get lost in the noise.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30222920</id>
	<title>Re:Hiding from the government is different.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259085240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>actually 65\% of reported murders in 2008 in the uk remain unsolved.<br>
&nbsp; source www.statistics.gov.uk</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>actually 65 \ % of reported murders in 2008 in the uk remain unsolved .
  source www.statistics.gov.uk</tokentext>
<sentencetext>actually 65\% of reported murders in 2008 in the uk remain unsolved.
  source www.statistics.gov.uk</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30222974</id>
	<title>three words...</title>
	<author>russ1337</author>
	<datestamp>1259085960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Osama Bin Laden</htmltext>
<tokenext>Osama Bin Laden</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Osama Bin Laden</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30223410</id>
	<title>\_why?</title>
	<author>trouser</author>
	<datestamp>1257192180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now we know what that lucky stiff has really been up to.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now we know what that lucky stiff has really been up to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now we know what that lucky stiff has really been up to.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30223256</id>
	<title>Re:You must remember</title>
	<author>smitty777</author>
	<datestamp>1259090400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree.  The whole point of the Wired article this was attached to was on just how easy it is to disappear.  According to the article (which is a fascinating read), the reason most folks get caught is because they don't fully distance themselves from their old lives.  They eventually get lonely, bored, tired, and try to call or email someone, or use an old credit card.  If you fully wanted to just "walk away", you could, but you'd have to really walk away. The point of the contest was more for fun and publicity.  Like Whiteox said, he could have easily just sat in his mum's basement for a month, but that wouldn't have been any fun at all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree .
The whole point of the Wired article this was attached to was on just how easy it is to disappear .
According to the article ( which is a fascinating read ) , the reason most folks get caught is because they do n't fully distance themselves from their old lives .
They eventually get lonely , bored , tired , and try to call or email someone , or use an old credit card .
If you fully wanted to just " walk away " , you could , but you 'd have to really walk away .
The point of the contest was more for fun and publicity .
Like Whiteox said , he could have easily just sat in his mum 's basement for a month , but that would n't have been any fun at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree.
The whole point of the Wired article this was attached to was on just how easy it is to disappear.
According to the article (which is a fascinating read), the reason most folks get caught is because they don't fully distance themselves from their old lives.
They eventually get lonely, bored, tired, and try to call or email someone, or use an old credit card.
If you fully wanted to just "walk away", you could, but you'd have to really walk away.
The point of the contest was more for fun and publicity.
Like Whiteox said, he could have easily just sat in his mum's basement for a month, but that wouldn't have been any fun at all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30222988</id>
	<title>FasTrak in the trunk?</title>
	<author>trentblase</author>
	<datestamp>1259086200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's definitely not a "sure" way to prevent a signal, unless the duffel bag also happens to be a faraday cage.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's definitely not a " sure " way to prevent a signal , unless the duffel bag also happens to be a faraday cage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's definitely not a "sure" way to prevent a signal, unless the duffel bag also happens to be a faraday cage.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30223322</id>
	<title>Most annoying quote of the piece:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259091600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Obviously the smarts and dedication of the hunters had overwhelmed my planning and endurance."</p><p>No, Mr. Ratliff. Your inability to stick to protocols like Tor gave you away. If you'd stuck to your original ideas, you probably could have made it for six months.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Obviously the smarts and dedication of the hunters had overwhelmed my planning and endurance .
" No , Mr. Ratliff. Your inability to stick to protocols like Tor gave you away .
If you 'd stuck to your original ideas , you probably could have made it for six months .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Obviously the smarts and dedication of the hunters had overwhelmed my planning and endurance.
"No, Mr. Ratliff. Your inability to stick to protocols like Tor gave you away.
If you'd stuck to your original ideas, you probably could have made it for six months.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30223394</id>
	<title>Penis Bird Costume Works Every Time!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257192000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>GNAA is proud to announce, the official penis bird costume, ready for Christmas!</p><p>Inspired by Slashdot's "Shedding Your Identiy in the Digital Age", you too can blend in with the other penis birds this holiday and EVERY holiday!</p><p>Join the crowd:</p><p><a href="http://penisbirdidentityfuzzer.gnaa.org/i-want-my-complimentary-penis-bird-beak.html" title="gnaa.org" rel="nofollow">http://penisbirdidentityfuzzer.gnaa.org/i-want-my-complimentary-penis-bird-beak.html</a> [gnaa.org]</p><p>GNAA recommends buying your costume now to avoid the holiday penis rush!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>GNAA is proud to announce , the official penis bird costume , ready for Christmas ! Inspired by Slashdot 's " Shedding Your Identiy in the Digital Age " , you too can blend in with the other penis birds this holiday and EVERY holiday ! Join the crowd : http : //penisbirdidentityfuzzer.gnaa.org/i-want-my-complimentary-penis-bird-beak.html [ gnaa.org ] GNAA recommends buying your costume now to avoid the holiday penis rush !
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<sentencetext>GNAA is proud to announce, the official penis bird costume, ready for Christmas!Inspired by Slashdot's "Shedding Your Identiy in the Digital Age", you too can blend in with the other penis birds this holiday and EVERY holiday!Join the crowd:http://penisbirdidentityfuzzer.gnaa.org/i-want-my-complimentary-penis-bird-beak.html [gnaa.org]GNAA recommends buying your costume now to avoid the holiday penis rush!
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30223764</id>
	<title>Re:Hiding from the government is different.</title>
	<author>Aceticon</author>
	<datestamp>1257154800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The truth is that we don't really know how successful police really are at "catching their man".</p><p>For all the fancy "Police investigation" TV Series where the good guys always end up getting the bad guys, in the Real World the only feedback we get comes from the media, and while they will happily publish news of the kind "Dangerous Murderer Caught" they don't exactly tend to publish news of the kind "Five Years Past And Dangerous Murderer Still Loose".</p><p>Broad statements about how the police always catches their man when sufficiently motivated probably result of an outsider perception which was build upon from an information flow where successes are loudly celebrated while continuous failure is hidden and silent.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The truth is that we do n't really know how successful police really are at " catching their man " .For all the fancy " Police investigation " TV Series where the good guys always end up getting the bad guys , in the Real World the only feedback we get comes from the media , and while they will happily publish news of the kind " Dangerous Murderer Caught " they do n't exactly tend to publish news of the kind " Five Years Past And Dangerous Murderer Still Loose " .Broad statements about how the police always catches their man when sufficiently motivated probably result of an outsider perception which was build upon from an information flow where successes are loudly celebrated while continuous failure is hidden and silent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The truth is that we don't really know how successful police really are at "catching their man".For all the fancy "Police investigation" TV Series where the good guys always end up getting the bad guys, in the Real World the only feedback we get comes from the media, and while they will happily publish news of the kind "Dangerous Murderer Caught" they don't exactly tend to publish news of the kind "Five Years Past And Dangerous Murderer Still Loose".Broad statements about how the police always catches their man when sufficiently motivated probably result of an outsider perception which was build upon from an information flow where successes are loudly celebrated while continuous failure is hidden and silent.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30225086</id>
	<title>Re:Hiding from the government is different.</title>
	<author>alen</author>
	<datestamp>1257171660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>most police work is nothing a genius needs to do, but a lot of repetitive work digging through thousands of potential clues until you find the one you need. few years ago a doctor was murdered at a playground where i used to play as a kid. the initial suspect was the soon to be ex-wife due to a messy divorce in progress</p><p>the police took the bullet and lifted a partial print. they couldn't match it in the computer database so they dug through thousands of paper arrest records until they got a match. turned out the ex-wife's uncle was arrested years ago for jumping a NYC subway turnstile and got caught. he was interviewed and said he was in the city but left the day before. too bad the cell phone tower logs had him near the playground at the time of the murder.</p><p>reminds me of a Law and Order episode. most of them gloss over the details, but in one episode Lenny had to call hundreds of pizza joints or something like that until he got a break</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>most police work is nothing a genius needs to do , but a lot of repetitive work digging through thousands of potential clues until you find the one you need .
few years ago a doctor was murdered at a playground where i used to play as a kid .
the initial suspect was the soon to be ex-wife due to a messy divorce in progressthe police took the bullet and lifted a partial print .
they could n't match it in the computer database so they dug through thousands of paper arrest records until they got a match .
turned out the ex-wife 's uncle was arrested years ago for jumping a NYC subway turnstile and got caught .
he was interviewed and said he was in the city but left the day before .
too bad the cell phone tower logs had him near the playground at the time of the murder.reminds me of a Law and Order episode .
most of them gloss over the details , but in one episode Lenny had to call hundreds of pizza joints or something like that until he got a break</tokentext>
<sentencetext>most police work is nothing a genius needs to do, but a lot of repetitive work digging through thousands of potential clues until you find the one you need.
few years ago a doctor was murdered at a playground where i used to play as a kid.
the initial suspect was the soon to be ex-wife due to a messy divorce in progressthe police took the bullet and lifted a partial print.
they couldn't match it in the computer database so they dug through thousands of paper arrest records until they got a match.
turned out the ex-wife's uncle was arrested years ago for jumping a NYC subway turnstile and got caught.
he was interviewed and said he was in the city but left the day before.
too bad the cell phone tower logs had him near the playground at the time of the murder.reminds me of a Law and Order episode.
most of them gloss over the details, but in one episode Lenny had to call hundreds of pizza joints or something like that until he got a break</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30223370</id>
	<title>Re:Hiding from the government is different.</title>
	<author>skine</author>
	<datestamp>1259092500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Us starting a war in Iraq instead of looking for him seems to have worked for him too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Us starting a war in Iraq instead of looking for him seems to have worked for him too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Us starting a war in Iraq instead of looking for him seems to have worked for him too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30226202</id>
	<title>He was lured out by money</title>
	<author>onezan</author>
	<datestamp>1257178740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Evan did an exceptional job of "shedding the digital identity".  He manipulated IP addresses (via TOR and RDP) and travelled via untrackable gift cards, etc.

He was only caught (on the last day) by getting suckered in to a "bonus game" offered by wired (to attend a book reading).  obviously, a stake out there would result in a hit.

A very interesting read.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Evan did an exceptional job of " shedding the digital identity " .
He manipulated IP addresses ( via TOR and RDP ) and travelled via untrackable gift cards , etc .
He was only caught ( on the last day ) by getting suckered in to a " bonus game " offered by wired ( to attend a book reading ) .
obviously , a stake out there would result in a hit .
A very interesting read .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Evan did an exceptional job of "shedding the digital identity".
He manipulated IP addresses (via TOR and RDP) and travelled via untrackable gift cards, etc.
He was only caught (on the last day) by getting suckered in to a "bonus game" offered by wired (to attend a book reading).
obviously, a stake out there would result in a hit.
A very interesting read.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30222996</id>
	<title>Getting careless...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259086380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The article demonstrates why only a tiny minority of us would be able to hide from determined hunters - we lack the discipline to accept the price of hiding on a continual basis. Ratliff mostly stopped using anonymizers and tunnels because they were annoyingly slow and this ultimately got him caught.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The article demonstrates why only a tiny minority of us would be able to hide from determined hunters - we lack the discipline to accept the price of hiding on a continual basis .
Ratliff mostly stopped using anonymizers and tunnels because they were annoyingly slow and this ultimately got him caught .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The article demonstrates why only a tiny minority of us would be able to hide from determined hunters - we lack the discipline to accept the price of hiding on a continual basis.
Ratliff mostly stopped using anonymizers and tunnels because they were annoyingly slow and this ultimately got him caught.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30223544</id>
	<title>Re:three words...</title>
	<author>X0563511</author>
	<datestamp>1257194160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Three words: what the fuck?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Three words : what the fuck ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Three words: what the fuck?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30233642</id>
	<title>Denouement</title>
	<author>laddiebuck</author>
	<datestamp>1257180960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just using long foreign words won't make you good editors or submitters.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;) (In fact, it just clouds your meaning.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just using long foreign words wo n't make you good editors or submitters .
; ) ( In fact , it just clouds your meaning .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just using long foreign words won't make you good editors or submitters.
;) (In fact, it just clouds your meaning.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30223146</id>
	<title>Re:Hiding from the government is different.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259088420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where's Osama?</p><p>Hiding seems to be working for him</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where 's Osama ? Hiding seems to be working for him</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where's Osama?Hiding seems to be working for him</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30223024</id>
	<title>How many hermit thrush bands are there?</title>
	<author>liquiddark</author>
	<datestamp>1259086680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrush\_Hermit" title="wikipedia.org">Seriously.</a> [wikipedia.org]  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermit\_Thrush\_(band)" title="wikipedia.org">What the heck?</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously .
[ wikipedia.org ] What the heck ?
[ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously.
[wikipedia.org]  What the heck?
[wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30226242</id>
	<title>Re:Boring</title>
	<author>Captain Hook</author>
	<datestamp>1257178920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>1. $5000 is not that much incentive. (Hell it wouldn't cover costs for a serious attempt. Many private investigators and bounty hunters wouldn't touch it). This would be much more valid a prize that would change someone's life - say $20 million.</p></div></blockquote><p>

the trouble with $20M prize money is it would change someone's life. Which means they would be willing to go to the extreme to find the runner, in what at the end of the day is nothing more than a slightly interesting social experiement.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
$ 5000 is not that much incentive .
( Hell it would n't cover costs for a serious attempt .
Many private investigators and bounty hunters would n't touch it ) .
This would be much more valid a prize that would change someone 's life - say $ 20 million .
the trouble with $ 20M prize money is it would change someone 's life .
Which means they would be willing to go to the extreme to find the runner , in what at the end of the day is nothing more than a slightly interesting social experiement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
$5000 is not that much incentive.
(Hell it wouldn't cover costs for a serious attempt.
Many private investigators and bounty hunters wouldn't touch it).
This would be much more valid a prize that would change someone's life - say $20 million.
the trouble with $20M prize money is it would change someone's life.
Which means they would be willing to go to the extreme to find the runner, in what at the end of the day is nothing more than a slightly interesting social experiement.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30223428</id>
	<title>Boring</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1257192420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. $5000 is not that much incentive. (Hell it wouldn't cover costs for a serious attempt. Many private investigators and bounty hunters wouldn't touch it). This would be much more valid a prize that would change someone's life - say $20 million.</p><p>2. People over-estimate the government's ability to track people down. Criminals seem to manage weeks, months or occasionally years in hiding. Mostly because the incentive for catching a petty criminal isn't all that great. Now if it were national secrets at stake that'd be different.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
$ 5000 is not that much incentive .
( Hell it would n't cover costs for a serious attempt .
Many private investigators and bounty hunters would n't touch it ) .
This would be much more valid a prize that would change someone 's life - say $ 20 million.2 .
People over-estimate the government 's ability to track people down .
Criminals seem to manage weeks , months or occasionally years in hiding .
Mostly because the incentive for catching a petty criminal is n't all that great .
Now if it were national secrets at stake that 'd be different .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
$5000 is not that much incentive.
(Hell it wouldn't cover costs for a serious attempt.
Many private investigators and bounty hunters wouldn't touch it).
This would be much more valid a prize that would change someone's life - say $20 million.2.
People over-estimate the government's ability to track people down.
Criminals seem to manage weeks, months or occasionally years in hiding.
Mostly because the incentive for catching a petty criminal isn't all that great.
Now if it were national secrets at stake that'd be different.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30228454</id>
	<title>What a waste...</title>
	<author>hesaigo999ca</author>
	<datestamp>1257189540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If someone wants to hide forever, it's easy enough....I know some quicksand you could hide in....<br>seriously what a waste of a story , please<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. no more of these....crap,crap,crap!!!!</p><p>If someone wants to hide, they will hide forever, however you think you want to do it....<br>and again if I know you are about to embark on such a trek, I know how to track you no matter what.<br>This is such a waste, have I said that before, I forget...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If someone wants to hide forever , it 's easy enough....I know some quicksand you could hide in....seriously what a waste of a story , please / .
no more of these....crap,crap,crap ! ! !
! If someone wants to hide , they will hide forever , however you think you want to do it....and again if I know you are about to embark on such a trek , I know how to track you no matter what.This is such a waste , have I said that before , I forget.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If someone wants to hide forever, it's easy enough....I know some quicksand you could hide in....seriously what a waste of a story , please /.
no more of these....crap,crap,crap!!!
!If someone wants to hide, they will hide forever, however you think you want to do it....and again if I know you are about to embark on such a trek, I know how to track you no matter what.This is such a waste, have I said that before, I forget...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30222994</id>
	<title>Re:Hiding from the government is different.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259086260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's really not all that hard to avoid the police either. The biggest difference is that if you're hiding from the authorities you generally aren't too concerned with staying within the law while doing so, which opens up a lot of different options. For example, a bogus driver's license and social security number can go a long way &amp; they aren't too hard to obtain if you are willing to break various laws.<br>As someone said, he basically had a neon sign on his head while doing this, and didn't end up getting caught despite all the efforts until he intentionally walked into a "trap" where he knew people would be looking for him. In addition, he kept most of his ties to his real life, where someone who was truly trying to disappear would have most likely not.</p><p>Hell, if he was really trying to go off the map, he could have just bought some camping gear and a month's worth of food rations and camped out in a remote location. Still, all in all it was an interesting experiment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's really not all that hard to avoid the police either .
The biggest difference is that if you 're hiding from the authorities you generally are n't too concerned with staying within the law while doing so , which opens up a lot of different options .
For example , a bogus driver 's license and social security number can go a long way &amp; they are n't too hard to obtain if you are willing to break various laws.As someone said , he basically had a neon sign on his head while doing this , and did n't end up getting caught despite all the efforts until he intentionally walked into a " trap " where he knew people would be looking for him .
In addition , he kept most of his ties to his real life , where someone who was truly trying to disappear would have most likely not.Hell , if he was really trying to go off the map , he could have just bought some camping gear and a month 's worth of food rations and camped out in a remote location .
Still , all in all it was an interesting experiment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's really not all that hard to avoid the police either.
The biggest difference is that if you're hiding from the authorities you generally aren't too concerned with staying within the law while doing so, which opens up a lot of different options.
For example, a bogus driver's license and social security number can go a long way &amp; they aren't too hard to obtain if you are willing to break various laws.As someone said, he basically had a neon sign on his head while doing this, and didn't end up getting caught despite all the efforts until he intentionally walked into a "trap" where he knew people would be looking for him.
In addition, he kept most of his ties to his real life, where someone who was truly trying to disappear would have most likely not.Hell, if he was really trying to go off the map, he could have just bought some camping gear and a month's worth of food rations and camped out in a remote location.
Still, all in all it was an interesting experiment.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30224148</id>
	<title>Re:Hiding from the government is different.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257159240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Where's Osama?</i><br><i>Hiding seems to be working for him</i></p><p>An Egyptian newspaper ran his obituary a while back. I don't know how credible the newspaper is though.</p><p>And Benazir Bhutto, while being interviewed on the BBC by Sir David Frost (yeah, that Frost. Of the Frost v Nixon fame) mentioned in passing that Bin Laden was dead. (This was Nov 2nd, 2007, shortly before she was killed by the way.)</p><p>Frost didn't say anything, didn't even acknowledge it (which might lead some to believe he already knew this) and the interview carried on as normal.</p><p>Later, the BBC transcript of the interview left out the references to Bin Ladens death.</p><p>When numerous complaints were sent to the BBC from viewers who saw the interview live, the BBC didn't deny that the section had been edited from the interview. They simply claimed there was nothing nefarious about it, and that interviews were frequently trimmed for length. They didn't comment at all, about the Bin Laden aspect of it.</p><p>True story. Video is online, google has multiple copies, etc...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where 's Osama ? Hiding seems to be working for himAn Egyptian newspaper ran his obituary a while back .
I do n't know how credible the newspaper is though.And Benazir Bhutto , while being interviewed on the BBC by Sir David Frost ( yeah , that Frost .
Of the Frost v Nixon fame ) mentioned in passing that Bin Laden was dead .
( This was Nov 2nd , 2007 , shortly before she was killed by the way .
) Frost did n't say anything , did n't even acknowledge it ( which might lead some to believe he already knew this ) and the interview carried on as normal.Later , the BBC transcript of the interview left out the references to Bin Ladens death.When numerous complaints were sent to the BBC from viewers who saw the interview live , the BBC did n't deny that the section had been edited from the interview .
They simply claimed there was nothing nefarious about it , and that interviews were frequently trimmed for length .
They did n't comment at all , about the Bin Laden aspect of it.True story .
Video is online , google has multiple copies , etc.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where's Osama?Hiding seems to be working for himAn Egyptian newspaper ran his obituary a while back.
I don't know how credible the newspaper is though.And Benazir Bhutto, while being interviewed on the BBC by Sir David Frost (yeah, that Frost.
Of the Frost v Nixon fame) mentioned in passing that Bin Laden was dead.
(This was Nov 2nd, 2007, shortly before she was killed by the way.
)Frost didn't say anything, didn't even acknowledge it (which might lead some to believe he already knew this) and the interview carried on as normal.Later, the BBC transcript of the interview left out the references to Bin Ladens death.When numerous complaints were sent to the BBC from viewers who saw the interview live, the BBC didn't deny that the section had been edited from the interview.
They simply claimed there was nothing nefarious about it, and that interviews were frequently trimmed for length.
They didn't comment at all, about the Bin Laden aspect of it.True story.
Video is online, google has multiple copies, etc...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30223882</id>
	<title>they don't want bin laden found</title>
	<author>Colin Smith</author>
	<datestamp>1257156120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Huge can of worms there. Trial. Evidence. Saudi connections etc.<br>End of the war. End of funding.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Huge can of worms there .
Trial. Evidence .
Saudi connections etc.End of the war .
End of funding .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Huge can of worms there.
Trial. Evidence.
Saudi connections etc.End of the war.
End of funding.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30223046</id>
	<title>Re:Hiding from the government is different.</title>
	<author>NotQuiteReal</author>
	<datestamp>1259086980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>heh, just google "garrido". Read it and weep.
<br>
<br>
Have no doubt, if you are on an "enemies list" (e.g. political enemy of the current power holder) you could very well be toast.
<br>
<br>
However, if you are a common criminal, no matter the magnitude, I have no doubt you can escape justice for a long while, if you are clever.
<br>
<br>
Fortunately, most fugitives are not "clever".</htmltext>
<tokenext>heh , just google " garrido " .
Read it and weep .
Have no doubt , if you are on an " enemies list " ( e.g .
political enemy of the current power holder ) you could very well be toast .
However , if you are a common criminal , no matter the magnitude , I have no doubt you can escape justice for a long while , if you are clever .
Fortunately , most fugitives are not " clever " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>heh, just google "garrido".
Read it and weep.
Have no doubt, if you are on an "enemies list" (e.g.
political enemy of the current power holder) you could very well be toast.
However, if you are a common criminal, no matter the magnitude, I have no doubt you can escape justice for a long while, if you are clever.
Fortunately, most fugitives are not "clever".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30224212</id>
	<title>Re:Hiding from the government is (not) different.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257159960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You claim that it's hard to hide but the FBI's statistics show that about 20\% of the MURDERERS got away with it in 2008. Sure, they solve a "Cold Case" from time to time but you probably won't get caught if you can survive the "First 48".</p><p>The about 20\% comes from the FBI's claim that there were 16,272 murders and 12,955 arrests in 2008.<br><a href="http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/index.html" title="fbi.gov" rel="nofollow">http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/index.html</a> [fbi.gov]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You claim that it 's hard to hide but the FBI 's statistics show that about 20 \ % of the MURDERERS got away with it in 2008 .
Sure , they solve a " Cold Case " from time to time but you probably wo n't get caught if you can survive the " First 48 " .The about 20 \ % comes from the FBI 's claim that there were 16,272 murders and 12,955 arrests in 2008.http : //www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/index.html [ fbi.gov ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You claim that it's hard to hide but the FBI's statistics show that about 20\% of the MURDERERS got away with it in 2008.
Sure, they solve a "Cold Case" from time to time but you probably won't get caught if you can survive the "First 48".The about 20\% comes from the FBI's claim that there were 16,272 murders and 12,955 arrests in 2008.http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/index.html [fbi.gov]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30223436</id>
	<title>P3nis b1rd costume works every time!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257192480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Gee enN Aye Aye is proud to announce, the official p3nis b1rd costume, ready for Christmas!</p><p>Inspired by Slashdot's "Shedding Your Identiy in the Digital Age", you too can blend in with the other p3nis b1rds this holiday and EVERY holiday!</p><p>Join the crowd:</p><p><a href="http://p3nisb1rdidentityfuzzer.yourfavoritegaysinspace.org/i-want-my-complimentary-p3nis-b1rd-beak.html" title="yourfavori...nspace.org" rel="nofollow">http://p3nisb1rdidentityfuzzer.yourfavoritegaysinspace.org/i-want-my-complimentary-p3nis-b1rd-beak.html</a> [yourfavori...nspace.org]</p><p>Gee enN Aye Aye recommends buying your costume now to avoid the holiday p3nis rush!!</p></htmltext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30222740</id>
	<title>Hiding from the government is different.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259083140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sure one might be able to hide from a group of relativly untrained people with no resources for quite a long time. But in my experience if someone is actually wanted by the police they tend to be found pretty quickly. The only reason so many get away is simply a lack of any real motivation to target that specific invidiual. This is why the bike you had stolen is far less likely to be found than the man who murdered his wife. In the end, a well trained force with authority and technology is quite difficult to evade in the long run. Especially without going life ruining stres and anxiety.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure one might be able to hide from a group of relativly untrained people with no resources for quite a long time .
But in my experience if someone is actually wanted by the police they tend to be found pretty quickly .
The only reason so many get away is simply a lack of any real motivation to target that specific invidiual .
This is why the bike you had stolen is far less likely to be found than the man who murdered his wife .
In the end , a well trained force with authority and technology is quite difficult to evade in the long run .
Especially without going life ruining stres and anxiety .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure one might be able to hide from a group of relativly untrained people with no resources for quite a long time.
But in my experience if someone is actually wanted by the police they tend to be found pretty quickly.
The only reason so many get away is simply a lack of any real motivation to target that specific invidiual.
This is why the bike you had stolen is far less likely to be found than the man who murdered his wife.
In the end, a well trained force with authority and technology is quite difficult to evade in the long run.
Especially without going life ruining stres and anxiety.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30227926</id>
	<title>Re:Hiding from the government is different.</title>
	<author>IICV</author>
	<datestamp>1257186960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah - if you ever watch anything like "Snapped" or those other TV shows that detail the events of actual police cases, you'll see that they invariably go like this:

<ol> <li>A crime is committed, be it murder, assault or robbery.</li><li>The police look in to it.</li><li>The police find nothing for a couple of months.</li><li>(optional) The police continue to find nothing for several years.</li><li>Someone else hands the police the case on a silver platter (someone feels guilty decides to confess, someone finds the gun, etc)</li><li>Police claim victory.</li></ol><p>

Seriously, detectives who actually solve crimes are in the minority, and why not? Who needs to solve violent crime, when you can just spend your time tracking down non-violent criminals?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah - if you ever watch anything like " Snapped " or those other TV shows that detail the events of actual police cases , you 'll see that they invariably go like this : A crime is committed , be it murder , assault or robbery.The police look in to it.The police find nothing for a couple of months .
( optional ) The police continue to find nothing for several years.Someone else hands the police the case on a silver platter ( someone feels guilty decides to confess , someone finds the gun , etc ) Police claim victory .
Seriously , detectives who actually solve crimes are in the minority , and why not ?
Who needs to solve violent crime , when you can just spend your time tracking down non-violent criminals ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah - if you ever watch anything like "Snapped" or those other TV shows that detail the events of actual police cases, you'll see that they invariably go like this:

 A crime is committed, be it murder, assault or robbery.The police look in to it.The police find nothing for a couple of months.
(optional) The police continue to find nothing for several years.Someone else hands the police the case on a silver platter (someone feels guilty decides to confess, someone finds the gun, etc)Police claim victory.
Seriously, detectives who actually solve crimes are in the minority, and why not?
Who needs to solve violent crime, when you can just spend your time tracking down non-violent criminals?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30228804</id>
	<title>Re:Hiding from the government is different.</title>
	<author>MobyDisk</author>
	<datestamp>1257190980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But in my experience if someone is actually wanted by the police they tend to be found pretty quickly.</p></div><p>Check out the most wanted list.  There are guys who have been on those lists for years, even decades.  There are kidnapping cases where someone disappears with children, nowhere to be found, for many years.  I would think it would be tough to do with children, but apparently not.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But in my experience if someone is actually wanted by the police they tend to be found pretty quickly.Check out the most wanted list .
There are guys who have been on those lists for years , even decades .
There are kidnapping cases where someone disappears with children , nowhere to be found , for many years .
I would think it would be tough to do with children , but apparently not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But in my experience if someone is actually wanted by the police they tend to be found pretty quickly.Check out the most wanted list.
There are guys who have been on those lists for years, even decades.
There are kidnapping cases where someone disappears with children, nowhere to be found, for many years.
I would think it would be tough to do with children, but apparently not.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30222926</id>
	<title>Re:You must remember</title>
	<author>rcamans</author>
	<datestamp>1259085360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nah. He's a geek. We would have found him there in a minute. After all, that is where he lived.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nah .
He 's a geek .
We would have found him there in a minute .
After all , that is where he lived .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nah.
He's a geek.
We would have found him there in a minute.
After all, that is where he lived.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30223462</id>
	<title>Re:three words...</title>
	<author>BrokenHalo</author>
	<datestamp>1257192840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Osama Bin Laden could easily have been dead for years. However, he was more useful alive to those pushing for military action, so it's unlikely that anyone would have admitted his demise.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Osama Bin Laden could easily have been dead for years .
However , he was more useful alive to those pushing for military action , so it 's unlikely that anyone would have admitted his demise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Osama Bin Laden could easily have been dead for years.
However, he was more useful alive to those pushing for military action, so it's unlikely that anyone would have admitted his demise.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30223054</id>
	<title>Read TFA...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259087040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I read the article in the paper version already. IMHO, he was found mostly because he insisted on "flirting" with the people looking for him and his previous identity.</p><p>Also IMHO, it's entirely possible to really disappear, even from a serious Government search, BUT in order to do so, you must be willing to truly forget about every single aspect of your previous life, forever. You have to be dead to every person you ever knew before the disappearance, and you have to forget about every hobby you ever had and every job skill and qualification you ever had. Hope you don't have any identifying medical conditions, tattoos, or disabilities either. You'll have to build up a completely new version of all of those things. And being able to put together a nice pile of cash (at least $1k, preferably closer to $10k) sure helps. Very few people have the discipline, will, and perhaps sheer insanity to actually carry this out, probably only a handful of Government spies/agents and a few of the most dedicated criminals around... I know I probably couldn't.</p><p>And if you're really in that much trouble, it's probably easier to just move to a non-extradition country and live there as yourself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I read the article in the paper version already .
IMHO , he was found mostly because he insisted on " flirting " with the people looking for him and his previous identity.Also IMHO , it 's entirely possible to really disappear , even from a serious Government search , BUT in order to do so , you must be willing to truly forget about every single aspect of your previous life , forever .
You have to be dead to every person you ever knew before the disappearance , and you have to forget about every hobby you ever had and every job skill and qualification you ever had .
Hope you do n't have any identifying medical conditions , tattoos , or disabilities either .
You 'll have to build up a completely new version of all of those things .
And being able to put together a nice pile of cash ( at least $ 1k , preferably closer to $ 10k ) sure helps .
Very few people have the discipline , will , and perhaps sheer insanity to actually carry this out , probably only a handful of Government spies/agents and a few of the most dedicated criminals around... I know I probably could n't.And if you 're really in that much trouble , it 's probably easier to just move to a non-extradition country and live there as yourself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read the article in the paper version already.
IMHO, he was found mostly because he insisted on "flirting" with the people looking for him and his previous identity.Also IMHO, it's entirely possible to really disappear, even from a serious Government search, BUT in order to do so, you must be willing to truly forget about every single aspect of your previous life, forever.
You have to be dead to every person you ever knew before the disappearance, and you have to forget about every hobby you ever had and every job skill and qualification you ever had.
Hope you don't have any identifying medical conditions, tattoos, or disabilities either.
You'll have to build up a completely new version of all of those things.
And being able to put together a nice pile of cash (at least $1k, preferably closer to $10k) sure helps.
Very few people have the discipline, will, and perhaps sheer insanity to actually carry this out, probably only a handful of Government spies/agents and a few of the most dedicated criminals around... I know I probably couldn't.And if you're really in that much trouble, it's probably easier to just move to a non-extradition country and live there as yourself.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30223354</id>
	<title>Penis Bird Costume Works Every Time!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259092200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>GNAA is proud to announce, the official penis bird costume, ready for Christmas!</p><p>Inspired by Slashdot's "Shedding Your Identiy in the Digital Age", you too can blend in with the other penis birds this holiday and EVERY holiday!</p><p>Join the crowd:</p><p><a href="http://penisbirdidentityfuzzer.gnaa.org/i-want-my-complimentary-penis-bird-beak.html" title="gnaa.org" rel="nofollow">http://penisbirdidentityfuzzer.gnaa.org/i-want-my-complimentary-penis-bird-beak.html</a> [gnaa.org]</p><p>GNAA recommends buying your costume now to avoid the holiday penis rush.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>GNAA is proud to announce , the official penis bird costume , ready for Christmas ! Inspired by Slashdot 's " Shedding Your Identiy in the Digital Age " , you too can blend in with the other penis birds this holiday and EVERY holiday ! Join the crowd : http : //penisbirdidentityfuzzer.gnaa.org/i-want-my-complimentary-penis-bird-beak.html [ gnaa.org ] GNAA recommends buying your costume now to avoid the holiday penis rush .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>GNAA is proud to announce, the official penis bird costume, ready for Christmas!Inspired by Slashdot's "Shedding Your Identiy in the Digital Age", you too can blend in with the other penis birds this holiday and EVERY holiday!Join the crowd:http://penisbirdidentityfuzzer.gnaa.org/i-want-my-complimentary-penis-bird-beak.html [gnaa.org]GNAA recommends buying your costume now to avoid the holiday penis rush.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30223240</id>
	<title>I could do it.</title>
	<author>Grimbleton</author>
	<datestamp>1259090160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not like anybody cares to find me, after all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not like anybody cares to find me , after all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not like anybody cares to find me, after all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30224262</id>
	<title>Dear Ratiff</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257160500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Are you running Treadstone? Who is running Treadstone now?
<br> <br>
Sincerely,
<br>
Jason.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you running Treadstone ?
Who is running Treadstone now ?
Sincerely , Jason .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you running Treadstone?
Who is running Treadstone now?
Sincerely,

Jason.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30222924</id>
	<title>Slashdotters have him beat</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1259085300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Writer Evan Ratliff tells how he managed to hide from crowdsourced searchers for 27 days.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>This guy's got nothing on the average Slashdot reader. Not even the sunlight is able to find them in their basement dwellings!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Writer Evan Ratliff tells how he managed to hide from crowdsourced searchers for 27 days .
This guy 's got nothing on the average Slashdot reader .
Not even the sunlight is able to find them in their basement dwellings !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Writer Evan Ratliff tells how he managed to hide from crowdsourced searchers for 27 days.
This guy's got nothing on the average Slashdot reader.
Not even the sunlight is able to find them in their basement dwellings!
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30236744</id>
	<title>Re:Hiding from the government is different.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259249340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>History shows thats it's more than possible to disappear at least for decades, and undoubtedly there are those who were never found again that we've just never heard of.  After all it only makes news, etc. if they are caught, those that aren't are just buried.</p><p>In Evan's case he made some stupid moves, unmasking his IPs, going to a soccer game which was apparently publicized to an extent, and using his own credit cards to purchase plane ticket. i.e. he was almost caught as a direct result of that.</p><p>You also have to remember that these people were also being fed info by a P.I. through Wired, so I find the conclusion that disappearing is impossible to be invalid.  Quite frankly I'm surprised that he didn't go a bit further by creating or acquiring a birth certificate for his new identity and from that creating a whole set of legal documents, after all right from the start he was still tied to that office in Vega which he paid for by using a cashier's check in his own name.  The entire thing was nothing more than an elaborate publicity stunt destined to fail right from the beginning.</p><p>i.e. While it may be difficult to disappear, the entire deck was stacked more and more aginst Evan with all of the insider info dropping from Wired, and his own mis-steps compounding that.  It reads more like at the end that he was just tired of the game and wanted to be caught so that he could go back to his old life.  After all look at his article entry just before going to the soccer game.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>History shows thats it 's more than possible to disappear at least for decades , and undoubtedly there are those who were never found again that we 've just never heard of .
After all it only makes news , etc .
if they are caught , those that are n't are just buried.In Evan 's case he made some stupid moves , unmasking his IPs , going to a soccer game which was apparently publicized to an extent , and using his own credit cards to purchase plane ticket .
i.e. he was almost caught as a direct result of that.You also have to remember that these people were also being fed info by a P.I .
through Wired , so I find the conclusion that disappearing is impossible to be invalid .
Quite frankly I 'm surprised that he did n't go a bit further by creating or acquiring a birth certificate for his new identity and from that creating a whole set of legal documents , after all right from the start he was still tied to that office in Vega which he paid for by using a cashier 's check in his own name .
The entire thing was nothing more than an elaborate publicity stunt destined to fail right from the beginning.i.e .
While it may be difficult to disappear , the entire deck was stacked more and more aginst Evan with all of the insider info dropping from Wired , and his own mis-steps compounding that .
It reads more like at the end that he was just tired of the game and wanted to be caught so that he could go back to his old life .
After all look at his article entry just before going to the soccer game .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>History shows thats it's more than possible to disappear at least for decades, and undoubtedly there are those who were never found again that we've just never heard of.
After all it only makes news, etc.
if they are caught, those that aren't are just buried.In Evan's case he made some stupid moves, unmasking his IPs, going to a soccer game which was apparently publicized to an extent, and using his own credit cards to purchase plane ticket.
i.e. he was almost caught as a direct result of that.You also have to remember that these people were also being fed info by a P.I.
through Wired, so I find the conclusion that disappearing is impossible to be invalid.
Quite frankly I'm surprised that he didn't go a bit further by creating or acquiring a birth certificate for his new identity and from that creating a whole set of legal documents, after all right from the start he was still tied to that office in Vega which he paid for by using a cashier's check in his own name.
The entire thing was nothing more than an elaborate publicity stunt destined to fail right from the beginning.i.e.
While it may be difficult to disappear, the entire deck was stacked more and more aginst Evan with all of the insider info dropping from Wired, and his own mis-steps compounding that.
It reads more like at the end that he was just tired of the game and wanted to be caught so that he could go back to his old life.
After all look at his article entry just before going to the soccer game.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30226188</id>
	<title>No need for concentration camps any more</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257178680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When the state has the means to track and monitor the population as they go about their every day lives, and to prevent access to the means of communication, travel and transactions, the state no longer has the need to put its opponents into concentration camps. Instead, it can take simple action to prevent any effective response the opposition might use to challenge the government.</p><p>Technology has provided a solution which dictators could only have dreamed of in past decades.</p><p>Now watch as your vote comes to mean increasingly less and less and your protests are transformed into ineffective though entertaining column inches for the media.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When the state has the means to track and monitor the population as they go about their every day lives , and to prevent access to the means of communication , travel and transactions , the state no longer has the need to put its opponents into concentration camps .
Instead , it can take simple action to prevent any effective response the opposition might use to challenge the government.Technology has provided a solution which dictators could only have dreamed of in past decades.Now watch as your vote comes to mean increasingly less and less and your protests are transformed into ineffective though entertaining column inches for the media .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When the state has the means to track and monitor the population as they go about their every day lives, and to prevent access to the means of communication, travel and transactions, the state no longer has the need to put its opponents into concentration camps.
Instead, it can take simple action to prevent any effective response the opposition might use to challenge the government.Technology has provided a solution which dictators could only have dreamed of in past decades.Now watch as your vote comes to mean increasingly less and less and your protests are transformed into ineffective though entertaining column inches for the media.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30224962</id>
	<title>Re:Hiding from the government is different.</title>
	<author>coolforsale125</author>
	<datestamp>1257170220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.coolforsale.com/" title="coolforsale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coolforsale.com/</a> [coolforsale.com]  Dear ladies and gentlemen Hello, In order to meet Christmas, Site launched Christmas spree, welcome new and old customers come to participate in the there are unexpected surprises, look forward to your arrival. Only this site have this treatmentOur goal is "Best quality, Best reputation , Best services". Your satisfaction is our main pursue. You can find the best products from us, meeting your different needs.Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products . Pass by but don't miss it.Select your favorite clothing! Welcome to come next time ! Thank you <a href="http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76" title="coolforsale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76</a> [coolforsale.com]   (Tracksuit w)ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket,Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33,Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35,Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&amp;g) $35,Tshirts (Polo<nobr> <wbr></nobr>,ed hardy,lacoste) $16 free shipping,Thanks!!! Advance wish you a merry Christmas</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.coolforsale.com/ [ coolforsale.com ] Dear ladies and gentlemen Hello , In order to meet Christmas , Site launched Christmas spree , welcome new and old customers come to participate in the there are unexpected surprises , look forward to your arrival .
Only this site have this treatmentOur goal is " Best quality , Best reputation , Best services " .
Your satisfaction is our main pursue .
You can find the best products from us , meeting your different needs.Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products .
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Advance wish you a merry Christmas</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.coolforsale.com/ [coolforsale.com]  Dear ladies and gentlemen Hello, In order to meet Christmas, Site launched Christmas spree, welcome new and old customers come to participate in the there are unexpected surprises, look forward to your arrival.
Only this site have this treatmentOur goal is "Best quality, Best reputation , Best services".
Your satisfaction is our main pursue.
You can find the best products from us, meeting your different needs.Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products .
Pass by but don't miss it.Select your favorite clothing!
Welcome to come next time !
Thank you http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76 [coolforsale.com]   (Tracksuit w)ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket,Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33,Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35,Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&amp;g) $35,Tshirts (Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste) $16 free shipping,Thanks!!!
Advance wish you a merry Christmas</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30225306</id>
	<title>Re:Hiding from the government is different.</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1257173520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most crimes go unsolved, whether it's your bike, someone breaking into your house, even murder. Many "solved" crimes are unsolved; Former Illinois Governor (now Federal prisoner) George Ryan stopped the death penalty in Illinois when it was found that half the men on Illinois' death row were innocent -- the real killers were (and are) still free.</p><p>Note the last line in <a href="http://www.sj-r.com/breaking/x1792907099/Man-hospitalized-after-fights" title="sj-r.com">this news story</a> [sj-r.com] and many others: "No arrests were made immediately following the attacks." Ther still haven't been any arrests.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most crimes go unsolved , whether it 's your bike , someone breaking into your house , even murder .
Many " solved " crimes are unsolved ; Former Illinois Governor ( now Federal prisoner ) George Ryan stopped the death penalty in Illinois when it was found that half the men on Illinois ' death row were innocent -- the real killers were ( and are ) still free.Note the last line in this news story [ sj-r.com ] and many others : " No arrests were made immediately following the attacks .
" Ther still have n't been any arrests .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most crimes go unsolved, whether it's your bike, someone breaking into your house, even murder.
Many "solved" crimes are unsolved; Former Illinois Governor (now Federal prisoner) George Ryan stopped the death penalty in Illinois when it was found that half the men on Illinois' death row were innocent -- the real killers were (and are) still free.Note the last line in this news story [sj-r.com] and many others: "No arrests were made immediately following the attacks.
" Ther still haven't been any arrests.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30227442</id>
	<title>Re:Hiding from the government is different.</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1257184860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most people get caught ebcasue someone they know gives them away. Often the person that gave them away have no idea they did.<br>Also, stupidity. People will still use an ATM card and didn't plan properly on how to disappear.<br>There are a large number of people that are wanted and can't be found. I'll forgo the obvious comparison.</p><p>You could always fake your death:</p><p><a href="http://www.cracked.com/article/154\_6-people-who-faked-their-own-death-for-ridiculous-reasons/" title="cracked.com">http://www.cracked.com/article/154\_6-people-who-faked-their-own-death-for-ridiculous-reasons/</a> [cracked.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most people get caught ebcasue someone they know gives them away .
Often the person that gave them away have no idea they did.Also , stupidity .
People will still use an ATM card and did n't plan properly on how to disappear.There are a large number of people that are wanted and ca n't be found .
I 'll forgo the obvious comparison.You could always fake your death : http : //www.cracked.com/article/154 \ _6-people-who-faked-their-own-death-for-ridiculous-reasons/ [ cracked.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most people get caught ebcasue someone they know gives them away.
Often the person that gave them away have no idea they did.Also, stupidity.
People will still use an ATM card and didn't plan properly on how to disappear.There are a large number of people that are wanted and can't be found.
I'll forgo the obvious comparison.You could always fake your death:http://www.cracked.com/article/154\_6-people-who-faked-their-own-death-for-ridiculous-reasons/ [cracked.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30225274</id>
	<title>Re:Hiding from the government is different.</title>
	<author>jimicus</author>
	<datestamp>1257173340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe things are different where you are but in the UK most of the police forces nationwide publish crime statistics annually on their website.</p><p>While serious crime generally does tend to get cleared up, most of the forces have an absolutely lousy rate for non-violent offences.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe things are different where you are but in the UK most of the police forces nationwide publish crime statistics annually on their website.While serious crime generally does tend to get cleared up , most of the forces have an absolutely lousy rate for non-violent offences .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe things are different where you are but in the UK most of the police forces nationwide publish crime statistics annually on their website.While serious crime generally does tend to get cleared up, most of the forces have an absolutely lousy rate for non-violent offences.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30222758</id>
	<title>You must remember</title>
	<author>Whiteox</author>
	<datestamp>1259083380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The point is that Ratliff still used the net incognito, which was important in this comp. I suggested to Wired that this be a yearly event, much like Cannonball. This first one attracted a lot of interest and made use of social websites as a tool. Fascinating sociology.<br>He could've after all, hid in his mum's basement.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The point is that Ratliff still used the net incognito , which was important in this comp .
I suggested to Wired that this be a yearly event , much like Cannonball .
This first one attracted a lot of interest and made use of social websites as a tool .
Fascinating sociology.He could 've after all , hid in his mum 's basement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The point is that Ratliff still used the net incognito, which was important in this comp.
I suggested to Wired that this be a yearly event, much like Cannonball.
This first one attracted a lot of interest and made use of social websites as a tool.
Fascinating sociology.He could've after all, hid in his mum's basement.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_25_0014249.30224354</id>
	<title>Re:three words...</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1257161340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How do we know the guy is still alive?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How do we know the guy is still alive ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How do we know the guy is still alive?</sentencetext>
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