<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_24_1334203</id>
	<title>Intelsat Launches Hardware For Internet Routing From Space</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1259071260000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>coondoggie writes <i>"A radiation-proof Cisco router was sent into space today aboard an Intelsat satellite with the goal <a href="http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/48399">of setting up military communications from space</a>. The router/satellite combo is a key part of the US Department of Defense's Internet Routing In Space (IRIS) project, which aims to route IP voice, video and data traffic between satellites in space in much the same way packets are moved on the ground, reducing delays, saving on capacity and offering greater network flexibility, Cisco stated."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>coondoggie writes " A radiation-proof Cisco router was sent into space today aboard an Intelsat satellite with the goal of setting up military communications from space .
The router/satellite combo is a key part of the US Department of Defense 's Internet Routing In Space ( IRIS ) project , which aims to route IP voice , video and data traffic between satellites in space in much the same way packets are moved on the ground , reducing delays , saving on capacity and offering greater network flexibility , Cisco stated .
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<sentencetext>coondoggie writes "A radiation-proof Cisco router was sent into space today aboard an Intelsat satellite with the goal of setting up military communications from space.
The router/satellite combo is a key part of the US Department of Defense's Internet Routing In Space (IRIS) project, which aims to route IP voice, video and data traffic between satellites in space in much the same way packets are moved on the ground, reducing delays, saving on capacity and offering greater network flexibility, Cisco stated.
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</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30214396</id>
	<title>How long</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1259081100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>How long before an ISP sues NASA for giving space internet for free, clearly abusing their governmental status and money.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How long before an ISP sues NASA for giving space internet for free , clearly abusing their governmental status and money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How long before an ISP sues NASA for giving space internet for free, clearly abusing their governmental status and money.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213152</id>
	<title>Time to go!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259075040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now that we can browse porn from Mars is there any reason not to go?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now that we can browse porn from Mars is there any reason not to go ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now that we can browse porn from Mars is there any reason not to go?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213444</id>
	<title>oblig</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259076780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Man, I'd like to see a beowulf cluster of these</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Man , I 'd like to see a beowulf cluster of these</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Man, I'd like to see a beowulf cluster of these</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213246</id>
	<title>It's not up yet.</title>
	<author>Joe The Dragon</author>
	<datestamp>1259075640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not up yet but after this direct tv d12.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not up yet but after this direct tv d12 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not up yet but after this direct tv d12.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30214346</id>
	<title>Re:Reducing delays?</title>
	<author>cfriedt</author>
	<datestamp>1259080920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would have to agree - I don't see how this can be used to reduce delays.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would have to agree - I do n't see how this can be used to reduce delays .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would have to agree - I don't see how this can be used to reduce delays.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213422</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213528</id>
	<title>To: Earth</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259077320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From: Alien Civilization #343322</p><p>You are ordered to immediately cease and desist use of all MicroSLOPsoftware.</p><p>Happy Thanksgiving !</p><p>Yours In Baikonur (Cosmodrome),<br>K. Trout</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From : Alien Civilization # 343322You are ordered to immediately cease and desist use of all MicroSLOPsoftware.Happy Thanksgiving ! Yours In Baikonur ( Cosmodrome ) ,K. Trout</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From: Alien Civilization #343322You are ordered to immediately cease and desist use of all MicroSLOPsoftware.Happy Thanksgiving !Yours In Baikonur (Cosmodrome),K. Trout</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30229260</id>
	<title>Re:No Viop for you</title>
	<author>SlashDev</author>
	<datestamp>1257192960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're talking about latency as if communication was to take place between Earth and the satellite. My guess is that this router will be used between satellites.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're talking about latency as if communication was to take place between Earth and the satellite .
My guess is that this router will be used between satellites .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're talking about latency as if communication was to take place between Earth and the satellite.
My guess is that this router will be used between satellites.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213586</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30215990</id>
	<title>Not a bad improvement</title>
	<author>times05</author>
	<datestamp>1259087640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The way things are right now we can't communicate directly from Iraq for example to US over satellite due to satellite footprint being too small. So it would go something like this: Iraq &gt;&gt;&gt; Sat1 &gt;&gt;&gt; Kuwait &gt;&gt;&gt; Sat2 &gt;&gt;&gt; Germany &gt;&gt;&gt; Sat3 &gt;&gt;&gt; US (Probably Maryland Fort Meade or Belvoir or something).

Each &gt;&gt;&gt; represents a satellite hop adding roughly 50 to 150ms delay. This is not counting in other delay added by other earth based equipment. This makes for a very crappy/laggy WoW connection out here<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)

Now with these new satellites that they are not just dumb boxes that retransmit everything you send to it back down to earth it will look something like this: Iraq &gt;&gt;&gt; Sat1 &gt;&gt;&gt; Sat2  &gt;&gt;&gt; US.
Shorter path with less hops means that my level 80 shaman will have a little better chance of killing your level 80 paladin.

Oh and the reason for the hop to Kuwait is Kuwait has actual Step Sites (Big sites with large dishes built into the ground) as opposed to Iraq and Afghanistan being seeded with tactical vehicle mounted crap-ware equipment.

So this whole router being built into Intelsat satellite is a very good thing IMHO.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The way things are right now we ca n't communicate directly from Iraq for example to US over satellite due to satellite footprint being too small .
So it would go something like this : Iraq &gt; &gt; &gt; Sat1 &gt; &gt; &gt; Kuwait &gt; &gt; &gt; Sat2 &gt; &gt; &gt; Germany &gt; &gt; &gt; Sat3 &gt; &gt; &gt; US ( Probably Maryland Fort Meade or Belvoir or something ) .
Each &gt; &gt; &gt; represents a satellite hop adding roughly 50 to 150ms delay .
This is not counting in other delay added by other earth based equipment .
This makes for a very crappy/laggy WoW connection out here : ) Now with these new satellites that they are not just dumb boxes that retransmit everything you send to it back down to earth it will look something like this : Iraq &gt; &gt; &gt; Sat1 &gt; &gt; &gt; Sat2 &gt; &gt; &gt; US .
Shorter path with less hops means that my level 80 shaman will have a little better chance of killing your level 80 paladin .
Oh and the reason for the hop to Kuwait is Kuwait has actual Step Sites ( Big sites with large dishes built into the ground ) as opposed to Iraq and Afghanistan being seeded with tactical vehicle mounted crap-ware equipment .
So this whole router being built into Intelsat satellite is a very good thing IMHO .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The way things are right now we can't communicate directly from Iraq for example to US over satellite due to satellite footprint being too small.
So it would go something like this: Iraq &gt;&gt;&gt; Sat1 &gt;&gt;&gt; Kuwait &gt;&gt;&gt; Sat2 &gt;&gt;&gt; Germany &gt;&gt;&gt; Sat3 &gt;&gt;&gt; US (Probably Maryland Fort Meade or Belvoir or something).
Each &gt;&gt;&gt; represents a satellite hop adding roughly 50 to 150ms delay.
This is not counting in other delay added by other earth based equipment.
This makes for a very crappy/laggy WoW connection out here :)

Now with these new satellites that they are not just dumb boxes that retransmit everything you send to it back down to earth it will look something like this: Iraq &gt;&gt;&gt; Sat1 &gt;&gt;&gt; Sat2  &gt;&gt;&gt; US.
Shorter path with less hops means that my level 80 shaman will have a little better chance of killing your level 80 paladin.
Oh and the reason for the hop to Kuwait is Kuwait has actual Step Sites (Big sites with large dishes built into the ground) as opposed to Iraq and Afghanistan being seeded with tactical vehicle mounted crap-ware equipment.
So this whole router being built into Intelsat satellite is a very good thing IMHO.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213648</id>
	<title>Re:Reducing delays?</title>
	<author>thesnide</author>
	<datestamp>1259077860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually if they are able to route it directly between satellites instead of having to do sat-earth round trips, it reduces the delay from 4, 6 or 8 trips to just 2 plus a little between sats.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually if they are able to route it directly between satellites instead of having to do sat-earth round trips , it reduces the delay from 4 , 6 or 8 trips to just 2 plus a little between sats .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually if they are able to route it directly between satellites instead of having to do sat-earth round trips, it reduces the delay from 4, 6 or 8 trips to just 2 plus a little between sats.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213422</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213910</id>
	<title>muppets</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259079120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pings iiiin spaaaaaaace!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pings iiiin spaaaaaaace !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pings iiiin spaaaaaaace!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213166</id>
	<title>One problem...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259075160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good luck getting a Cisco-certified network guy up there to configure/fix it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good luck getting a Cisco-certified network guy up there to configure/fix it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good luck getting a Cisco-certified network guy up there to configure/fix it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30215916</id>
	<title>Which code train is it running</title>
	<author>Initi</author>
	<datestamp>1259087340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>12.3? 12.4?  SXH?  SXI?  I'm sure it is the IP Enterprise Edition of some flavor.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>12.3 ?
12.4 ? SXH ?
SXI ? I 'm sure it is the IP Enterprise Edition of some flavor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>12.3?
12.4?  SXH?
SXI?  I'm sure it is the IP Enterprise Edition of some flavor.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213586</id>
	<title>No Viop for you</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259077620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm sure Cisco conveniently forgot to explain the concept of latency before they sold them voice service on and router in space.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure Cisco conveniently forgot to explain the concept of latency before they sold them voice service on and router in space .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure Cisco conveniently forgot to explain the concept of latency before they sold them voice service on and router in space.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213404</id>
	<title>Christmas gifts,shoes,Jacket,shoes,handbag,etc</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259076480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.coolforsale.com/" title="coolforsale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coolforsale.com/</a> [coolforsale.com]   Dear ladies and gentlemen Hello, In order to meet Christmas, Site launched Christmas spree, welcome new and old customers come to participate in the there are unexpected surprises, look forward to your arrival. Only this site have this treatmentOur goal is "Best quality, Best reputation , Best services". Your satisfaction is our main pursue. You can find the best products from us, meeting your different needs. Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products . Pass by but don't miss it.Select your favorite clothing! Welcome to come next time ! Thank you! <a href="http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76" title="coolforsale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76</a> [coolforsale.com]   (Tracksuit w) ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket, Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33 Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35 Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&amp;g) $35 Tshirts (Polo<nobr> <wbr></nobr>,ed hardy,lacoste) $16 free shipping Thanks!!! Advance wish you a merry Christmas.</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.coolforsale.com/ [ coolforsale.com ] Dear ladies and gentlemen Hello , In order to meet Christmas , Site launched Christmas spree , welcome new and old customers come to participate in the there are unexpected surprises , look forward to your arrival .
Only this site have this treatmentOur goal is " Best quality , Best reputation , Best services " .
Your satisfaction is our main pursue .
You can find the best products from us , meeting your different needs .
Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products .
Pass by but do n't miss it.Select your favorite clothing !
Welcome to come next time !
Thank you !
http : //www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp ? id = s76 [ coolforsale.com ] ( Tracksuit w ) ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket , Air jordan ( 1-24 ) shoes $ 33 Nike shox ( R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3 ) $ 35 Handbags ( Coach lv fendi d&amp;g ) $ 35 Tshirts ( Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste ) $ 16 free shipping Thanks ! ! !
Advance wish you a merry Christmas .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.coolforsale.com/ [coolforsale.com]   Dear ladies and gentlemen Hello, In order to meet Christmas, Site launched Christmas spree, welcome new and old customers come to participate in the there are unexpected surprises, look forward to your arrival.
Only this site have this treatmentOur goal is "Best quality, Best reputation , Best services".
Your satisfaction is our main pursue.
You can find the best products from us, meeting your different needs.
Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products .
Pass by but don't miss it.Select your favorite clothing!
Welcome to come next time !
Thank you!
http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76 [coolforsale.com]   (Tracksuit w) ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket, Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33 Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35 Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&amp;g) $35 Tshirts (Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste) $16 free shipping Thanks!!!
Advance wish you a merry Christmas.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213942</id>
	<title>Re:Reducing delays?</title>
	<author>oldspewey</author>
	<datestamp>1259079300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can generally tell when I'm on a long-distance voice call that uses sat relay rather than a terrestrial link. More episodes when both parties unintentionally talk over one another, followed by an awkward silence as each politely waits for the other to resume.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can generally tell when I 'm on a long-distance voice call that uses sat relay rather than a terrestrial link .
More episodes when both parties unintentionally talk over one another , followed by an awkward silence as each politely waits for the other to resume .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can generally tell when I'm on a long-distance voice call that uses sat relay rather than a terrestrial link.
More episodes when both parties unintentionally talk over one another, followed by an awkward silence as each politely waits for the other to resume.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213422</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30214514</id>
	<title>Advantages of on Satellite Routing...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259081520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Latency is a bitch.  As someone who has worked closely with IP based satellite solutions the average latency to a geosynchronous satellite (ones that are over the same spot on the earth at all times) is about 80 ms each way, or 160ms round trip.  To get data from a war zone, such as the middle east, over a wholly government controlled satellite network, back to the US would take at least two satellite hops for a total of at least 320ms in addition to any other equipment delay.  This becomes even more problematic with IP, since packet acknowledgment takes an additional 320ms from the end point.  To ack a single packet is pushing a second when equipment delays are factored in.  In addition satellite has inherently higher error rates. A second problem that this system addresses is power.  Any transmission medium adds noise.  A normal satellite just repeats signals back to earth adding even more noise.  The way to combat noise is more power, which in turn adds more noise and limits the amount of data that can be sent relative to the bandwidth.</p><p>This system addresses both of those problems.  First since signals are sent satellite to satellite, a single ground trip can be avoided.  This savings can be up to 160ms one way or 320ms round trip, although in practice it would be less to account for the distance between satellites.  The second issue, the power problem, is that since signals are reformed on the satellite you only need enough power to reach the satellite, rather than enough to reach the satellite and back to earth.  This saves power and improves signal integrity all around.  This all serves to reduce packet loss and improve the overall utilization of resources.</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Latency is a bitch .
As someone who has worked closely with IP based satellite solutions the average latency to a geosynchronous satellite ( ones that are over the same spot on the earth at all times ) is about 80 ms each way , or 160ms round trip .
To get data from a war zone , such as the middle east , over a wholly government controlled satellite network , back to the US would take at least two satellite hops for a total of at least 320ms in addition to any other equipment delay .
This becomes even more problematic with IP , since packet acknowledgment takes an additional 320ms from the end point .
To ack a single packet is pushing a second when equipment delays are factored in .
In addition satellite has inherently higher error rates .
A second problem that this system addresses is power .
Any transmission medium adds noise .
A normal satellite just repeats signals back to earth adding even more noise .
The way to combat noise is more power , which in turn adds more noise and limits the amount of data that can be sent relative to the bandwidth.This system addresses both of those problems .
First since signals are sent satellite to satellite , a single ground trip can be avoided .
This savings can be up to 160ms one way or 320ms round trip , although in practice it would be less to account for the distance between satellites .
The second issue , the power problem , is that since signals are reformed on the satellite you only need enough power to reach the satellite , rather than enough to reach the satellite and back to earth .
This saves power and improves signal integrity all around .
This all serves to reduce packet loss and improve the overall utilization of resources .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>Latency is a bitch.
As someone who has worked closely with IP based satellite solutions the average latency to a geosynchronous satellite (ones that are over the same spot on the earth at all times) is about 80 ms each way, or 160ms round trip.
To get data from a war zone, such as the middle east, over a wholly government controlled satellite network, back to the US would take at least two satellite hops for a total of at least 320ms in addition to any other equipment delay.
This becomes even more problematic with IP, since packet acknowledgment takes an additional 320ms from the end point.
To ack a single packet is pushing a second when equipment delays are factored in.
In addition satellite has inherently higher error rates.
A second problem that this system addresses is power.
Any transmission medium adds noise.
A normal satellite just repeats signals back to earth adding even more noise.
The way to combat noise is more power, which in turn adds more noise and limits the amount of data that can be sent relative to the bandwidth.This system addresses both of those problems.
First since signals are sent satellite to satellite, a single ground trip can be avoided.
This savings can be up to 160ms one way or 320ms round trip, although in practice it would be less to account for the distance between satellites.
The second issue, the power problem, is that since signals are reformed on the satellite you only need enough power to reach the satellite, rather than enough to reach the satellite and back to earth.
This saves power and improves signal integrity all around.
This all serves to reduce packet loss and improve the overall utilization of resources.
 </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30215200</id>
	<title>An obvious problem..</title>
	<author>DrBuzzo</author>
	<datestamp>1259084220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The big issue this presents is that if the router stops working, doesn't renew the IP address or just won't connect then who is going to unplug it, wait a few seconds and plug it back in?   Are they going to have to send astronauts up to do this every time that happens?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The big issue this presents is that if the router stops working , does n't renew the IP address or just wo n't connect then who is going to unplug it , wait a few seconds and plug it back in ?
Are they going to have to send astronauts up to do this every time that happens ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The big issue this presents is that if the router stops working, doesn't renew the IP address or just won't connect then who is going to unplug it, wait a few seconds and plug it back in?
Are they going to have to send astronauts up to do this every time that happens?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30217500</id>
	<title>Re:Not a bad improvement</title>
	<author>Sepodati</author>
	<datestamp>1259095020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Once you hit Kuwait or Germany (leaving Iraq), you're hooked into terrestrial connectivity as a primary. So it's only a single satellite hop and then 300ms or so to travel to the states via fiber. If you're on a smaller FOB in Iraq that needs to hop to it's parent unit, then Kuwait or Germany, then you'll have two satellite hops.</p><p>The Sat-to-Sat link could be used instead of the fiber connectivity. While it may not save much latency, it could be a much larger and less congested pipe depending on the frequencies and usage. Probably save a lot of money, too. Win-win.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>-John</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Once you hit Kuwait or Germany ( leaving Iraq ) , you 're hooked into terrestrial connectivity as a primary .
So it 's only a single satellite hop and then 300ms or so to travel to the states via fiber .
If you 're on a smaller FOB in Iraq that needs to hop to it 's parent unit , then Kuwait or Germany , then you 'll have two satellite hops.The Sat-to-Sat link could be used instead of the fiber connectivity .
While it may not save much latency , it could be a much larger and less congested pipe depending on the frequencies and usage .
Probably save a lot of money , too .
Win-win. : ) -John</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Once you hit Kuwait or Germany (leaving Iraq), you're hooked into terrestrial connectivity as a primary.
So it's only a single satellite hop and then 300ms or so to travel to the states via fiber.
If you're on a smaller FOB in Iraq that needs to hop to it's parent unit, then Kuwait or Germany, then you'll have two satellite hops.The Sat-to-Sat link could be used instead of the fiber connectivity.
While it may not save much latency, it could be a much larger and less congested pipe depending on the frequencies and usage.
Probably save a lot of money, too.
Win-win. :)-John</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30215990</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213198</id>
	<title>It won't work because,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259075400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>in space no one can hear you stream...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>in space no one can hear you stream.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>in space no one can hear you stream...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213266</id>
	<title>Hm.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259075760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This takes blaming your lag on your ISP to a whole new level.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This takes blaming your lag on your ISP to a whole new level .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This takes blaming your lag on your ISP to a whole new level.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213340</id>
	<title>Intelsat by Cisco</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259076180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If they manufactured it in China then the back door is already built in by the factory so the Chinese can read all traffic or interdict it in a crisis.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If they manufactured it in China then the back door is already built in by the factory so the Chinese can read all traffic or interdict it in a crisis .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they manufactured it in China then the back door is already built in by the factory so the Chinese can read all traffic or interdict it in a crisis.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213758</id>
	<title>Re:Intelsat by Cisco</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1259078340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't worry, I think the Chinese are pretty good at protecting their estates. ^^</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't worry , I think the Chinese are pretty good at protecting their estates .
^ ^</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't worry, I think the Chinese are pretty good at protecting their estates.
^^</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213340</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213436</id>
	<title>Not exactly low latency ...</title>
	<author>LS1 Brains</author>
	<datestamp>1259076720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think its great we're working on stuff like this, but with the satellite likely in geosynchronous orbit that equates to ~250ms packet delays round trip.  The applications will obviously need to be tolerant of the delay, not that 1/4 second is out of the ordinary for really long links though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think its great we 're working on stuff like this , but with the satellite likely in geosynchronous orbit that equates to ~ 250ms packet delays round trip .
The applications will obviously need to be tolerant of the delay , not that 1/4 second is out of the ordinary for really long links though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think its great we're working on stuff like this, but with the satellite likely in geosynchronous orbit that equates to ~250ms packet delays round trip.
The applications will obviously need to be tolerant of the delay, not that 1/4 second is out of the ordinary for really long links though.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30216572</id>
	<title>Re:Great idea but...</title>
	<author>petermgreen</author>
	<datestamp>1259090460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>... latency is gonna be a bitch. Guess they're dealing with that in satcom already, though, right?</i><br>Right</p><p>Which if you have multiple bases in the field (call them A and B) that want to communicate with each other is a bloody good reason to route in space.</p><p>A-sat based router-B is going to be a lot lower latency than A-dumb sat-Ground based router-dumb stat-B.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... latency is gon na be a bitch .
Guess they 're dealing with that in satcom already , though , right ? RightWhich if you have multiple bases in the field ( call them A and B ) that want to communicate with each other is a bloody good reason to route in space.A-sat based router-B is going to be a lot lower latency than A-dumb sat-Ground based router-dumb stat-B .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... latency is gonna be a bitch.
Guess they're dealing with that in satcom already, though, right?RightWhich if you have multiple bases in the field (call them A and B) that want to communicate with each other is a bloody good reason to route in space.A-sat based router-B is going to be a lot lower latency than A-dumb sat-Ground based router-dumb stat-B.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30214258</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213692</id>
	<title>Servers next?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259078100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If they put routers into space, then what about servers? Would be the logical next step.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If they put routers into space , then what about servers ?
Would be the logical next step .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they put routers into space, then what about servers?
Would be the logical next step.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30218800</id>
	<title>Re:No Viop for you</title>
	<author>Nefarious Wheel</author>
	<datestamp>1259057820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm sure Cisco conveniently forgot to explain the concept of latency before they sold them voice service on and router in space.</p></div><p>Yes, latency being the problem it is, let's go back to half-duplex.  In fact, let's go back to telegraphy.  We should be able to do something with all that wire being displaced by all those wireless hot spots.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure Cisco conveniently forgot to explain the concept of latency before they sold them voice service on and router in space.Yes , latency being the problem it is , let 's go back to half-duplex .
In fact , let 's go back to telegraphy .
We should be able to do something with all that wire being displaced by all those wireless hot spots .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure Cisco conveniently forgot to explain the concept of latency before they sold them voice service on and router in space.Yes, latency being the problem it is, let's go back to half-duplex.
In fact, let's go back to telegraphy.
We should be able to do something with all that wire being displaced by all those wireless hot spots.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213586</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30215422</id>
	<title>Oh great.</title>
	<author>ddusza</author>
	<datestamp>1259085120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>It all starts with a single router in space. Then it becomes SkyNet--The Network.  How soon before we need to find John Conner because some assembly robots develop a bad attitude....</htmltext>
<tokenext>It all starts with a single router in space .
Then it becomes SkyNet--The Network .
How soon before we need to find John Conner because some assembly robots develop a bad attitude... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It all starts with a single router in space.
Then it becomes SkyNet--The Network.
How soon before we need to find John Conner because some assembly robots develop a bad attitude....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213238</id>
	<title>Yes but ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259075580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>... does it run dd-wrt?</htmltext>
<tokenext>... does it run dd-wrt ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... does it run dd-wrt?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30215558</id>
	<title>Re:Intelsat by Cisco</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259085660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I worked on the project.  It is built in Colorado at an ITAR facility.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I worked on the project .
It is built in Colorado at an ITAR facility .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I worked on the project.
It is built in Colorado at an ITAR facility.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213340</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213250</id>
	<title>Great</title>
	<author>elrous0</author>
	<datestamp>1259075700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Now there's a wifi hotspot for the moonbase that we're never going to build.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now there 's a wifi hotspot for the moonbase that we 're never going to build .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now there's a wifi hotspot for the moonbase that we're never going to build.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30215100</id>
	<title>Geosynchronous? Who's got the console cable?</title>
	<author>schwit1</author>
	<datestamp>1259083800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What do you mean your laptop doesn't have a serial port?

<p>

I have to wonder what new Cisco certification will focus on satellite systems?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What do you mean your laptop does n't have a serial port ?
I have to wonder what new Cisco certification will focus on satellite systems ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What do you mean your laptop doesn't have a serial port?
I have to wonder what new Cisco certification will focus on satellite systems?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30215730</id>
	<title>Re:Reducing delays?</title>
	<author>camperdave</author>
	<datestamp>1259086380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It is routing satellite to satellite communications.  Currently, if you had to send a signal from location S to location R and they were each serviced by different satellites, you would have to send from S up to sat1 back down to an intermediate ground station (or two), back up to sat2 and then back down to location R.  With this system, you send a signal up to sat1, across to sat2, then down to R.<br> <br>
Also, don't forget that this is for military communications.  Having an untappable link that others cannot listen in on is probably worth an extra second or two of latency.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is routing satellite to satellite communications .
Currently , if you had to send a signal from location S to location R and they were each serviced by different satellites , you would have to send from S up to sat1 back down to an intermediate ground station ( or two ) , back up to sat2 and then back down to location R. With this system , you send a signal up to sat1 , across to sat2 , then down to R . Also , do n't forget that this is for military communications .
Having an untappable link that others can not listen in on is probably worth an extra second or two of latency .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is routing satellite to satellite communications.
Currently, if you had to send a signal from location S to location R and they were each serviced by different satellites, you would have to send from S up to sat1 back down to an intermediate ground station (or two), back up to sat2 and then back down to location R.  With this system, you send a signal up to sat1, across to sat2, then down to R. 
Also, don't forget that this is for military communications.
Having an untappable link that others cannot listen in on is probably worth an extra second or two of latency.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30214346</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30214800</id>
	<title>Re:mcmurdo.gov</title>
	<author>sconeu</author>
	<datestamp>1259082840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Which raises the question (and yes, I did RTFA), is this satellite in LEO or GEO?</p><p>If it's in GEO, you have a minimum 0.5 second round-trip ping time.  Latency becomes a major factor at that point, regardless of how much bandwidth you can stuff in the channel.</p><p>Remember, 186000 mi/sec, it's not just a good idea -- its the law!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which raises the question ( and yes , I did RTFA ) , is this satellite in LEO or GEO ? If it 's in GEO , you have a minimum 0.5 second round-trip ping time .
Latency becomes a major factor at that point , regardless of how much bandwidth you can stuff in the channel.Remember , 186000 mi/sec , it 's not just a good idea -- its the law !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which raises the question (and yes, I did RTFA), is this satellite in LEO or GEO?If it's in GEO, you have a minimum 0.5 second round-trip ping time.
Latency becomes a major factor at that point, regardless of how much bandwidth you can stuff in the channel.Remember, 186000 mi/sec, it's not just a good idea -- its the law!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213776</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30214258</id>
	<title>Great idea but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259080620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... latency is gonna be a bitch.  Guess they're dealing with that in satcom already, though, right?</htmltext>
<tokenext>... latency is gon na be a bitch .
Guess they 're dealing with that in satcom already , though , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... latency is gonna be a bitch.
Guess they're dealing with that in satcom already, though, right?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30214874</id>
	<title>Wrong Launch Date</title>
	<author>BJ\_Covert\_Action</author>
	<datestamp>1259083080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The summary is a bit misleading. Intelsat was launched around midnight Sunday night PST or, if you will, early Monday morning. Technically Intelsat was in space and correcting its orbit on Monday, not today, as the summary implies:<p><div class="quote"><p>A radiation-proof Cisco router was sent into space today<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></div><p>
Just some early morning pedantry for my fellow space nerds out there. =)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The summary is a bit misleading .
Intelsat was launched around midnight Sunday night PST or , if you will , early Monday morning .
Technically Intelsat was in space and correcting its orbit on Monday , not today , as the summary implies : A radiation-proof Cisco router was sent into space today .. . Just some early morning pedantry for my fellow space nerds out there .
= )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The summary is a bit misleading.
Intelsat was launched around midnight Sunday night PST or, if you will, early Monday morning.
Technically Intelsat was in space and correcting its orbit on Monday, not today, as the summary implies:A radiation-proof Cisco router was sent into space today ...
Just some early morning pedantry for my fellow space nerds out there.
=)
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213374</id>
	<title>Not even Cisco</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259076360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>no such thing as radiation-proof for electronics. Resistant and resilient, perhaps. Radiation-hardened, maybe.</htmltext>
<tokenext>no such thing as radiation-proof for electronics .
Resistant and resilient , perhaps .
Radiation-hardened , maybe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>no such thing as radiation-proof for electronics.
Resistant and resilient, perhaps.
Radiation-hardened, maybe.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213478</id>
	<title>You know...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259077020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"A radiation-proof Cisco router was sent into space today, and returned to Earth roughly 12 hours later for SmartNET service."</p><p>Fixed for realism.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" A radiation-proof Cisco router was sent into space today , and returned to Earth roughly 12 hours later for SmartNET service .
" Fixed for realism .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"A radiation-proof Cisco router was sent into space today, and returned to Earth roughly 12 hours later for SmartNET service.
"Fixed for realism.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213422</id>
	<title>Reducing delays?</title>
	<author>chaynlynk</author>
	<datestamp>1259076720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Satalite based communications always had a decent delay.<br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite\_Internet\_access" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite\_Internet\_access</a> [wikipedia.org] <br>
<br>
"Factoring in other normal delays from network sources gives a typical one-way connection latency of 500&ndash;700 ms from the user to the ISP, or about 1,000&ndash;1,400 milliseconds latency for the total Round Trip Time (RTT) back to the user. "</htmltext>
<tokenext>Satalite based communications always had a decent delay .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite \ _Internet \ _access [ wikipedia.org ] " Factoring in other normal delays from network sources gives a typical one-way connection latency of 500    700 ms from the user to the ISP , or about 1,000    1,400 milliseconds latency for the total Round Trip Time ( RTT ) back to the user .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Satalite based communications always had a decent delay.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite\_Internet\_access [wikipedia.org] 

"Factoring in other normal delays from network sources gives a typical one-way connection latency of 500–700 ms from the user to the ISP, or about 1,000–1,400 milliseconds latency for the total Round Trip Time (RTT) back to the user.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30219066</id>
	<title>I'd like to be there...</title>
	<author>curious.corn</author>
	<datestamp>1259058840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... when</p><p>copy running-config startup-config</p><p>gets typed over that console...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... whencopy running-config startup-configgets typed over that console.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... whencopy running-config startup-configgets typed over that console...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213666</id>
	<title>wait</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259077980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought there were already hundreds, if not thousands, of satellites already doing this....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought there were already hundreds , if not thousands , of satellites already doing this... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought there were already hundreds, if not thousands, of satellites already doing this....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213860</id>
	<title>I see a problem here.</title>
	<author>ctrl-alt-canc</author>
	<datestamp>1259078880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In case of emergency, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP\_over\_Avian\_Carriers" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">RFC1149/RFC2549</a> [wikipedia.org] transport protocols cannot be used. I think NASA should find a workaround, in order to increase reliability of space communications.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In case of emergency , RFC1149/RFC2549 [ wikipedia.org ] transport protocols can not be used .
I think NASA should find a workaround , in order to increase reliability of space communications .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In case of emergency, RFC1149/RFC2549 [wikipedia.org] transport protocols cannot be used.
I think NASA should find a workaround, in order to increase reliability of space communications.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213628</id>
	<title>Re:It won't work because,</title>
	<author>Ukab the Great</author>
	<datestamp>1259077800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Doesn't matter if they hear. Astronauts are granted immunity from public urination laws.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does n't matter if they hear .
Astronauts are granted immunity from public urination laws .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doesn't matter if they hear.
Astronauts are granted immunity from public urination laws.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213198</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30215592</id>
	<title>Re:No Viop for you</title>
	<author>Sepodati</author>
	<datestamp>1259085780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You obviously haven't worked with Cisco VoIP over satellite links. It works perfectly fine over single satellite hops and up to three hops, in my experience. I've had VoIP calls with 2-3 second delays because of the number of hops and radio links that were completely functional. Of course there's delay. DoD users are far more tolerant of the delay than normal users, though. Usually it's as simple as using the word "over"...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>-John</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You obviously have n't worked with Cisco VoIP over satellite links .
It works perfectly fine over single satellite hops and up to three hops , in my experience .
I 've had VoIP calls with 2-3 second delays because of the number of hops and radio links that were completely functional .
Of course there 's delay .
DoD users are far more tolerant of the delay than normal users , though .
Usually it 's as simple as using the word " over " ... : ) -John</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You obviously haven't worked with Cisco VoIP over satellite links.
It works perfectly fine over single satellite hops and up to three hops, in my experience.
I've had VoIP calls with 2-3 second delays because of the number of hops and radio links that were completely functional.
Of course there's delay.
DoD users are far more tolerant of the delay than normal users, though.
Usually it's as simple as using the word "over"... :)-John</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213586</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1334203.30213604</id>
	<title>Re:Not even Cisco</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259077680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But they used valve technology for this one!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But they used valve technology for this one !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But they used valve technology for this one!</sentencetext>
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	<title>Case mod...</title>
	<author>chill</author>
	<datestamp>1259078580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Someone needs to do a casemod and slap it in a teapot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Someone needs to do a casemod and slap it in a teapot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someone needs to do a casemod and slap it in a teapot.</sentencetext>
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	<title>mcmurdo.gov</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259078460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Back in the earlier days of the less popular Internet, I used to get a kick out of pining mcmurdo.gov , the US base in <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Mcmurdo+Sound,+Antarctica&amp;sll=-78.242436,-161.542969&amp;sspn=16.068265,130.957031&amp;ll=-66.652977,-163.125&amp;spn=67.519037,261.914063&amp;z=2" title="google.com">McMurdo Sound, Antarctica</a> [google.com], because it was as far as I could reach on the Net (ping times usually about 800ms). Before I'd traveled very much around the physical globe, I'd stretch my imagination to the scale spanning "me to McMurdo".</p><p>I'm really psyched to look forward to pinging Jupiter.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Back in the earlier days of the less popular Internet , I used to get a kick out of pining mcmurdo.gov , the US base in McMurdo Sound , Antarctica [ google.com ] , because it was as far as I could reach on the Net ( ping times usually about 800ms ) .
Before I 'd traveled very much around the physical globe , I 'd stretch my imagination to the scale spanning " me to McMurdo " .I 'm really psyched to look forward to pinging Jupiter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Back in the earlier days of the less popular Internet, I used to get a kick out of pining mcmurdo.gov , the US base in McMurdo Sound, Antarctica [google.com], because it was as far as I could reach on the Net (ping times usually about 800ms).
Before I'd traveled very much around the physical globe, I'd stretch my imagination to the scale spanning "me to McMurdo".I'm really psyched to look forward to pinging Jupiter.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Cisco?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259076840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How are they going to get the fork lift up there in 3 years to do an upgrade?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How are they going to get the fork lift up there in 3 years to do an upgrade ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How are they going to get the fork lift up there in 3 years to do an upgrade?</sentencetext>
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