<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_24_0112201</id>
	<title>Bing Cashback Can Cost You Money</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1259080680000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>paltemalte writes <i>"Microsoft and various retailers have teamed up to bring you cashback on purchases made via Bing's price comparison feature. There is a little snag, though &mdash; it seems that when you have a Bing cookie living in your browser, <a href="http://bountii.com/blog/2009/11/23/negative-cashback-from-bing-cashback/">some retailers will quote you a higher price</a> than if you come with no Bing cookie in your system."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>paltemalte writes " Microsoft and various retailers have teamed up to bring you cashback on purchases made via Bing 's price comparison feature .
There is a little snag , though    it seems that when you have a Bing cookie living in your browser , some retailers will quote you a higher price than if you come with no Bing cookie in your system .
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<sentencetext>paltemalte writes "Microsoft and various retailers have teamed up to bring you cashback on purchases made via Bing's price comparison feature.
There is a little snag, though — it seems that when you have a Bing cookie living in your browser, some retailers will quote you a higher price than if you come with no Bing cookie in your system.
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</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30215760</id>
	<title>Re:Disclaimer: TFA author works for a bing competi</title>
	<author>jim\_v2000</author>
	<datestamp>1259086500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The article is completely untrue.  I've checked several items, including the one he was looking at, and the prices were the same (or less) if you came through Bing.  I used two different computers, one with a Bing cookie, and one with all the cookies dumped.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The article is completely untrue .
I 've checked several items , including the one he was looking at , and the prices were the same ( or less ) if you came through Bing .
I used two different computers , one with a Bing cookie , and one with all the cookies dumped .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The article is completely untrue.
I've checked several items, including the one he was looking at, and the prices were the same (or less) if you came through Bing.
I used two different computers, one with a Bing cookie, and one with all the cookies dumped.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210206</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30211904</id>
	<title>Can't even find "slash dot"</title>
	<author>Carra</author>
	<datestamp>1259066400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I had to try Bing out now!
<br> <br>
First result for "slash dot":<ul>
<li> Google: www.slashdot.com, yey!</li><li> Bing: www.dotslash.co.za, boo!</li></ul></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had to try Bing out now !
First result for " slash dot " : Google : www.slashdot.com , yey !
Bing : www.dotslash.co.za , boo !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had to try Bing out now!
First result for "slash dot":
 Google: www.slashdot.com, yey!
Bing: www.dotslash.co.za, boo!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210270</id>
	<title>soo...</title>
	<author>mnemonic\_</author>
	<datestamp>1258999380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Did anyone else notice the story submitter's alias links to a sex toy shopping site?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did anyone else notice the story submitter 's alias links to a sex toy shopping site ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did anyone else notice the story submitter's alias links to a sex toy shopping site?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210932</id>
	<title>Retailers have always done this</title>
	<author>1s44c</author>
	<datestamp>1259053320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Much as MS can't be trusted this isn't a new trick.</p><p>You don't seriously think that the shoes reduced from $300 to $100 this week only were ever really selling at $300 do you?</p><p>The answer is easy, never deal with retailers who will try to deceive you. Sadly that doesn't leave you with too much choice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Much as MS ca n't be trusted this is n't a new trick.You do n't seriously think that the shoes reduced from $ 300 to $ 100 this week only were ever really selling at $ 300 do you ? The answer is easy , never deal with retailers who will try to deceive you .
Sadly that does n't leave you with too much choice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Much as MS can't be trusted this isn't a new trick.You don't seriously think that the shoes reduced from $300 to $100 this week only were ever really selling at $300 do you?The answer is easy, never deal with retailers who will try to deceive you.
Sadly that doesn't leave you with too much choice.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210522</id>
	<title>Re:The first thing that came to mind...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259002860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How do you advertise a code and process as a discount, and then the merchandise therein is actually priced higher than your regular price from your main site?</p></div><p>You've never heard of negative numbers?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How do you advertise a code and process as a discount , and then the merchandise therein is actually priced higher than your regular price from your main site ? You 've never heard of negative numbers ?
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How do you advertise a code and process as a discount, and then the merchandise therein is actually priced higher than your regular price from your main site?You've never heard of negative numbers?
:)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210222</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210432</id>
	<title>Re:soo...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259001600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Did anyone else notice the story submitter's alias links to a sex toy shopping site?</p></div><p>If that's what makes him happy.<br>Maybe he doesn't know that all subby links are tagged rel="nofollow"</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did anyone else notice the story submitter 's alias links to a sex toy shopping site ? If that 's what makes him happy.Maybe he does n't know that all subby links are tagged rel = " nofollow "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did anyone else notice the story submitter's alias links to a sex toy shopping site?If that's what makes him happy.Maybe he doesn't know that all subby links are tagged rel="nofollow"
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210270</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30214916</id>
	<title>Re:Credit Cards?</title>
	<author>steelfood</author>
	<datestamp>1259083140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, and they provide free shelter too, albeit temporary. But it's great on a hot day and their AC is at full blast. You can just duck inside, pretend to be interested in something, put it back, and repeat several times with the same item or various other items. Then after enough time for you to cool down and for the sweat to dry off your back, you make a mad dash out to the next place, leaving your unsuspecting victims at the cash register lines behind to pay the shelter tax for you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , and they provide free shelter too , albeit temporary .
But it 's great on a hot day and their AC is at full blast .
You can just duck inside , pretend to be interested in something , put it back , and repeat several times with the same item or various other items .
Then after enough time for you to cool down and for the sweat to dry off your back , you make a mad dash out to the next place , leaving your unsuspecting victims at the cash register lines behind to pay the shelter tax for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, and they provide free shelter too, albeit temporary.
But it's great on a hot day and their AC is at full blast.
You can just duck inside, pretend to be interested in something, put it back, and repeat several times with the same item or various other items.
Then after enough time for you to cool down and for the sweat to dry off your back, you make a mad dash out to the next place, leaving your unsuspecting victims at the cash register lines behind to pay the shelter tax for you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30211128</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210694</id>
	<title>Dummy reply to negate moderation</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259005800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>NTSH, MO...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>NTSH , MO.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NTSH, MO...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30211790</id>
	<title>Why I don't use Bing...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259065500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>beacuse everything Microsoft comes with a hidden price tag.</p><p>Ya'll make fun of it, but M$ is very appropriate. Every dirty, underhanded, unethical and illegal method they can use to suck up your dollars, they will.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>beacuse everything Microsoft comes with a hidden price tag.Ya 'll make fun of it , but M $ is very appropriate .
Every dirty , underhanded , unethical and illegal method they can use to suck up your dollars , they will .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>beacuse everything Microsoft comes with a hidden price tag.Ya'll make fun of it, but M$ is very appropriate.
Every dirty, underhanded, unethical and illegal method they can use to suck up your dollars, they will.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210400</id>
	<title>Re:Reminds me of Amazon</title>
	<author>gapagos</author>
	<datestamp>1259001180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It was several years ago, maybe before you needed to log-in to make a purchase.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was several years ago , maybe before you needed to log-in to make a purchase .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was several years ago, maybe before you needed to log-in to make a purchase.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210338</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30213876</id>
	<title>Re:soo...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259079000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Looking for a job making BlackBerries?</p><p>www.rim.jobs (Research in Motion, SFW)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Looking for a job making BlackBerries ? www.rim.jobs ( Research in Motion , SFW )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looking for a job making BlackBerries?www.rim.jobs (Research in Motion, SFW)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210270</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210222</id>
	<title>The first thing that came to mind...</title>
	<author>rcolbert</author>
	<datestamp>1258998660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>...are the notorious 'employee discount codes' that vendors such as Dell and other have employed.  A few years back I was looking to buy a new LCD and had a Dell in mind when I remembered my company had a discount code.  So I dug it up, and used the instructions provided to logon to the 'discount' site (the mechanics of doing so may be different today.)  To my surprise, I found that the 'discounted' price of the monitor was several hundred dollars more than just the plain ol' Dell site.  WTF?  How do you advertise a code and process as a discount, and then the merchandise therein is actually priced higher than your regular price from your main site?  I'm glad I double checked before hitting the purchase button.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...are the notorious 'employee discount codes ' that vendors such as Dell and other have employed .
A few years back I was looking to buy a new LCD and had a Dell in mind when I remembered my company had a discount code .
So I dug it up , and used the instructions provided to logon to the 'discount ' site ( the mechanics of doing so may be different today .
) To my surprise , I found that the 'discounted ' price of the monitor was several hundred dollars more than just the plain ol ' Dell site .
WTF ? How do you advertise a code and process as a discount , and then the merchandise therein is actually priced higher than your regular price from your main site ?
I 'm glad I double checked before hitting the purchase button .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...are the notorious 'employee discount codes' that vendors such as Dell and other have employed.
A few years back I was looking to buy a new LCD and had a Dell in mind when I remembered my company had a discount code.
So I dug it up, and used the instructions provided to logon to the 'discount' site (the mechanics of doing so may be different today.
)  To my surprise, I found that the 'discounted' price of the monitor was several hundred dollars more than just the plain ol' Dell site.
WTF?  How do you advertise a code and process as a discount, and then the merchandise therein is actually priced higher than your regular price from your main site?
I'm glad I double checked before hitting the purchase button.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210498</id>
	<title>isn't this a problem with the retailers websites?</title>
	<author>timmarhy</author>
	<datestamp>1259002500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>sounds like a retailer screw up</htmltext>
<tokenext>sounds like a retailer screw up</tokentext>
<sentencetext>sounds like a retailer screw up</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30212746</id>
	<title>Retailer's Fault</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259072880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know I'll get voted down for being an MS fan boy, but:</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Did no one stop to think that this was the RETAILER's fault?  Microsoft isn't charging you a higher price, and surprisingly enough there's nothing magic or "tainted" about their cookie.  The retailer is the one raising their prices if you have certain cookies<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>This article doesn't tell me much about Bing, but I definitely won't ever buy from ButterflyPhoto.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know I 'll get voted down for being an MS fan boy , but :       Did no one stop to think that this was the RETAILER 's fault ?
Microsoft is n't charging you a higher price , and surprisingly enough there 's nothing magic or " tainted " about their cookie .
The retailer is the one raising their prices if you have certain cookies ...This article does n't tell me much about Bing , but I definitely wo n't ever buy from ButterflyPhoto .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know I'll get voted down for being an MS fan boy, but:
      Did no one stop to think that this was the RETAILER's fault?
Microsoft isn't charging you a higher price, and surprisingly enough there's nothing magic or "tainted" about their cookie.
The retailer is the one raising their prices if you have certain cookies ...This article doesn't tell me much about Bing, but I definitely won't ever buy from ButterflyPhoto.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210642</id>
	<title>looks more like a fail to me</title>
	<author>digmediaguy</author>
	<datestamp>1259004900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>While certainly not a good thing for MS, it doesn't look to me like something they're doing to intentionally screw people over.  At least if anyone's trying to screw anyone over, it's not MS - maybe the camera store, as another poster pointed out, which I would agree with, based on my own past experience in such establishments.  That said, I don't want to specifically implicate anyone of wrongdoing without having complete evidence of such, so for all anyone really knows it could have just been one big unfortunate f---up.
<br> <br>
What this does look like is some team within MS that handles some aspect of Bing and/or Bing cashback might not have thought through this whole scenario enough.  It looks, though, based on the update provided on the site, that somebody at MS has taken notice of the issue.  Whether they take action to prevent future incidences of this, and how quickly and thoroughly they do remains to be seen.  Hopefully the folks over at Bing can demonstrate some agility here.
<br> <br>
Kudos to the finder for bringing this up.</htmltext>
<tokenext>While certainly not a good thing for MS , it does n't look to me like something they 're doing to intentionally screw people over .
At least if anyone 's trying to screw anyone over , it 's not MS - maybe the camera store , as another poster pointed out , which I would agree with , based on my own past experience in such establishments .
That said , I do n't want to specifically implicate anyone of wrongdoing without having complete evidence of such , so for all anyone really knows it could have just been one big unfortunate f---up .
What this does look like is some team within MS that handles some aspect of Bing and/or Bing cashback might not have thought through this whole scenario enough .
It looks , though , based on the update provided on the site , that somebody at MS has taken notice of the issue .
Whether they take action to prevent future incidences of this , and how quickly and thoroughly they do remains to be seen .
Hopefully the folks over at Bing can demonstrate some agility here .
Kudos to the finder for bringing this up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While certainly not a good thing for MS, it doesn't look to me like something they're doing to intentionally screw people over.
At least if anyone's trying to screw anyone over, it's not MS - maybe the camera store, as another poster pointed out, which I would agree with, based on my own past experience in such establishments.
That said, I don't want to specifically implicate anyone of wrongdoing without having complete evidence of such, so for all anyone really knows it could have just been one big unfortunate f---up.
What this does look like is some team within MS that handles some aspect of Bing and/or Bing cashback might not have thought through this whole scenario enough.
It looks, though, based on the update provided on the site, that somebody at MS has taken notice of the issue.
Whether they take action to prevent future incidences of this, and how quickly and thoroughly they do remains to be seen.
Hopefully the folks over at Bing can demonstrate some agility here.
Kudos to the finder for bringing this up.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30212156</id>
	<title>Murdoch and fox news</title>
	<author>WindBourne</author>
	<datestamp>1259068380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is this how Murdoch will be able to make more money than if he simply sold an honest paper? Work with a company that is known to cheat on all.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is this how Murdoch will be able to make more money than if he simply sold an honest paper ?
Work with a company that is known to cheat on all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is this how Murdoch will be able to make more money than if he simply sold an honest paper?
Work with a company that is known to cheat on all.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30213754</id>
	<title>Re:No surprise ... price variations based on cooki</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259078340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>When you go to Dell and click through as a home user vs a small business, the prices are different for the same machine!</p></div></blockquote><p>
I don't know if this is still the case, but once upon a time, paying the extra money for a "Small Business" machine was the only way to get a Dell with only <em>half</em> the preinstalled crapware as the "Home" machine.  The crapware/adware/spyware on the Home machines subsidizes the purchase, I suppose.
</p><p>
Depressing thing is I ended up nuking it and reinstalling after a year anyways.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>When you go to Dell and click through as a home user vs a small business , the prices are different for the same machine !
I do n't know if this is still the case , but once upon a time , paying the extra money for a " Small Business " machine was the only way to get a Dell with only half the preinstalled crapware as the " Home " machine .
The crapware/adware/spyware on the Home machines subsidizes the purchase , I suppose .
Depressing thing is I ended up nuking it and reinstalling after a year anyways .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When you go to Dell and click through as a home user vs a small business, the prices are different for the same machine!
I don't know if this is still the case, but once upon a time, paying the extra money for a "Small Business" machine was the only way to get a Dell with only half the preinstalled crapware as the "Home" machine.
The crapware/adware/spyware on the Home machines subsidizes the purchase, I suppose.
Depressing thing is I ended up nuking it and reinstalling after a year anyways.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210582</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30215374</id>
	<title>Re:The first thing that came to mind...</title>
	<author>thePowerOfGrayskull</author>
	<datestamp>1259084880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The same thing happened to me last week.  I was looking to get a netbook, and was pricing dell minis.  Baseline price was $299.  I logged in with my corporate discount info, and found that my "discount price" was $339.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The same thing happened to me last week .
I was looking to get a netbook , and was pricing dell minis .
Baseline price was $ 299 .
I logged in with my corporate discount info , and found that my " discount price " was $ 339 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The same thing happened to me last week.
I was looking to get a netbook, and was pricing dell minis.
Baseline price was $299.
I logged in with my corporate discount info, and found that my "discount price" was $339.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210222</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210292</id>
	<title>Re:The first thing that came to mind...</title>
	<author>jesseck</author>
	<datestamp>1258999680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I worked for a national healthcare system which offered a Dell employee purchase program.  My wife wanted a pink laptop, and I quickly found out I could get a better deal on a regular "sale" from Dell than the "12\% employee purchase program discount" could ever give me.  They're scams, which attempt to con people into thinking they are getting a deal.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I worked for a national healthcare system which offered a Dell employee purchase program .
My wife wanted a pink laptop , and I quickly found out I could get a better deal on a regular " sale " from Dell than the " 12 \ % employee purchase program discount " could ever give me .
They 're scams , which attempt to con people into thinking they are getting a deal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I worked for a national healthcare system which offered a Dell employee purchase program.
My wife wanted a pink laptop, and I quickly found out I could get a better deal on a regular "sale" from Dell than the "12\% employee purchase program discount" could ever give me.
They're scams, which attempt to con people into thinking they are getting a deal.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210222</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210338</id>
	<title>Re:Reminds me of Amazon</title>
	<author>breeze95</author>
	<datestamp>1259000280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I remember a long time ago about a story where Amazon charged more to its returning customers than new ones through a cookie like that.<br>
Anyone has remembers this as well?</p></div><p>I never heard of that. Besides, why would Amazon need to rely on a browser's cookie to identify returning customers when Amazon requires customers to have an account with them and be logged in before purchases are made?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember a long time ago about a story where Amazon charged more to its returning customers than new ones through a cookie like that .
Anyone has remembers this as well ? I never heard of that .
Besides , why would Amazon need to rely on a browser 's cookie to identify returning customers when Amazon requires customers to have an account with them and be logged in before purchases are made ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember a long time ago about a story where Amazon charged more to its returning customers than new ones through a cookie like that.
Anyone has remembers this as well?I never heard of that.
Besides, why would Amazon need to rely on a browser's cookie to identify returning customers when Amazon requires customers to have an account with them and be logged in before purchases are made?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210218</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30211022</id>
	<title>Re:Come on, it's obviously the store that's shady</title>
	<author>TheVelvetFlamebait</author>
	<datestamp>1259054940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>So, a disreputable web site is setting a cookie when you click on a sales link. How is this Microsoft's fault again?</p></div></blockquote><p>Well, Microsoft might have tried a little harder to secure their system.</p><p>How? What do you think this is, constructive criticism!?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , a disreputable web site is setting a cookie when you click on a sales link .
How is this Microsoft 's fault again ? Well , Microsoft might have tried a little harder to secure their system.How ?
What do you think this is , constructive criticism !
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, a disreputable web site is setting a cookie when you click on a sales link.
How is this Microsoft's fault again?Well, Microsoft might have tried a little harder to secure their system.How?
What do you think this is, constructive criticism!
?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210220</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210730</id>
	<title>Re:Reminds me of Amazon</title>
	<author>SKPhoton</author>
	<datestamp>1259092800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I believe it was the other way around. Amazon would slowly lower the price on items they saw you monitoring over time, hoping to entice you to finally buy it. One guy was complaining because he lost his cookies and thus his discount on the product he was wanting.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe it was the other way around .
Amazon would slowly lower the price on items they saw you monitoring over time , hoping to entice you to finally buy it .
One guy was complaining because he lost his cookies and thus his discount on the product he was wanting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe it was the other way around.
Amazon would slowly lower the price on items they saw you monitoring over time, hoping to entice you to finally buy it.
One guy was complaining because he lost his cookies and thus his discount on the product he was wanting.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210218</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210440</id>
	<title>Re:Reminds me of Amazon</title>
	<author>MushMouth</author>
	<datestamp>1259001660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That wasn't exactly it, Amazon was testing different price points for items and set a cookie to make sure once your price point was set it remained.  However some people noticed if they cleared their cookies they would get a lower price sometimes.  The people who got a higher price didn't really have much to say about it.  In the end everyone got charged the lowest price even if they thought they were paying the higher price.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That was n't exactly it , Amazon was testing different price points for items and set a cookie to make sure once your price point was set it remained .
However some people noticed if they cleared their cookies they would get a lower price sometimes .
The people who got a higher price did n't really have much to say about it .
In the end everyone got charged the lowest price even if they thought they were paying the higher price .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That wasn't exactly it, Amazon was testing different price points for items and set a cookie to make sure once your price point was set it remained.
However some people noticed if they cleared their cookies they would get a lower price sometimes.
The people who got a higher price didn't really have much to say about it.
In the end everyone got charged the lowest price even if they thought they were paying the higher price.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210218</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210230</id>
	<title>No surprise ... price variations based on cookies</title>
	<author>gordguide</author>
	<datestamp>1258998780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No surprise<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... price variations based on cookies<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... is old news. I remember reading about how cookies resident on the user's machine can cause different quoted prices to appear years ago<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... probably five years ago at least. I was able to test it at the time using two browsers with different cookie loads. It's definitely happening. Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure it was a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. story years ago that first mentioned it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No surprise ... price variations based on cookies ... is old news .
I remember reading about how cookies resident on the user 's machine can cause different quoted prices to appear years ago ... probably five years ago at least .
I was able to test it at the time using two browsers with different cookie loads .
It 's definitely happening .
Come to think of it , I 'm pretty sure it was a / .
story years ago that first mentioned it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No surprise ... price variations based on cookies ... is old news.
I remember reading about how cookies resident on the user's machine can cause different quoted prices to appear years ago ... probably five years ago at least.
I was able to test it at the time using two browsers with different cookie loads.
It's definitely happening.
Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure it was a /.
story years ago that first mentioned it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210870</id>
	<title>Moral action</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259095080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since this makes Microsoft solution users poorer it is good.<br>With a little bit of luck Microsoft's greed will bankrupt their customer base and "the spuck will be vorbei"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since this makes Microsoft solution users poorer it is good.With a little bit of luck Microsoft 's greed will bankrupt their customer base and " the spuck will be vorbei "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since this makes Microsoft solution users poorer it is good.With a little bit of luck Microsoft's greed will bankrupt their customer base and "the spuck will be vorbei"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30212582</id>
	<title>Cookie nonsense</title>
	<author>dgun</author>
	<datestamp>1259071920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>it seems that when you have a Bing cookie living in your browser, some retailers will quote you a higher price than if you come with no Bing cookie in your system.</p></div></blockquote><p>

Surely someone has pointed this out already, but you can only retrieve the cookies you set. So a retailer would not be able to pull all the cookies and look for a Bing cookie. Of course, they could look at which search engine referred someone and set their own cookie.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>it seems that when you have a Bing cookie living in your browser , some retailers will quote you a higher price than if you come with no Bing cookie in your system .
Surely someone has pointed this out already , but you can only retrieve the cookies you set .
So a retailer would not be able to pull all the cookies and look for a Bing cookie .
Of course , they could look at which search engine referred someone and set their own cookie .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it seems that when you have a Bing cookie living in your browser, some retailers will quote you a higher price than if you come with no Bing cookie in your system.
Surely someone has pointed this out already, but you can only retrieve the cookies you set.
So a retailer would not be able to pull all the cookies and look for a Bing cookie.
Of course, they could look at which search engine referred someone and set their own cookie.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30211424</id>
	<title>About the message that got taken down</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1259062740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's funny how if it wasn't taken down I probably wouldn't even have read it, but since it was I actively sought it out, wasting an entire 5 minutes of my valuable time, and then read it over and posted it to some other places since it's a good article and I wouldn't want to see it disappear off the internet. Will they even learn?</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's funny how if it was n't taken down I probably would n't even have read it , but since it was I actively sought it out , wasting an entire 5 minutes of my valuable time , and then read it over and posted it to some other places since it 's a good article and I would n't want to see it disappear off the internet .
Will they even learn ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's funny how if it wasn't taken down I probably wouldn't even have read it, but since it was I actively sought it out, wasting an entire 5 minutes of my valuable time, and then read it over and posted it to some other places since it's a good article and I wouldn't want to see it disappear off the internet.
Will they even learn?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210220</id>
	<title>Come on, it's obviously the store that's shady</title>
	<author>Edgewize</author>
	<datestamp>1258998660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This has nothing to do with Microsoft.   From the article: <i>Butterfly Photo set a three month cookie on my computer to indicate that I came from Bing</i>.</p><p>So, a disreputable web site is setting a cookie when you click on a sales link.  How is this Microsoft's fault again?  What does this have to do with Bing?</p><p>A/V and photography stores are notorious for ripping off customers, both in-store and on-line.  Surprise surprise, you can find these disreputable sites using search engines.  Trying to blame this on Bing is like trying to blame your phone book for recommending a sketchy car mechanic.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This has nothing to do with Microsoft .
From the article : Butterfly Photo set a three month cookie on my computer to indicate that I came from Bing.So , a disreputable web site is setting a cookie when you click on a sales link .
How is this Microsoft 's fault again ?
What does this have to do with Bing ? A/V and photography stores are notorious for ripping off customers , both in-store and on-line .
Surprise surprise , you can find these disreputable sites using search engines .
Trying to blame this on Bing is like trying to blame your phone book for recommending a sketchy car mechanic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This has nothing to do with Microsoft.
From the article: Butterfly Photo set a three month cookie on my computer to indicate that I came from Bing.So, a disreputable web site is setting a cookie when you click on a sales link.
How is this Microsoft's fault again?
What does this have to do with Bing?A/V and photography stores are notorious for ripping off customers, both in-store and on-line.
Surprise surprise, you can find these disreputable sites using search engines.
Trying to blame this on Bing is like trying to blame your phone book for recommending a sketchy car mechanic.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30211910</id>
	<title>Google wins, MS looses... again :| - no surprise</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259066460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bing is crap. Give up the battle MS, Google already gotcha... BING!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bing is crap .
Give up the battle MS , Google already gotcha.. .
BING ! ! !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bing is crap.
Give up the battle MS, Google already gotcha...
BING!!!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30212174</id>
	<title>Re:The first thing that came to mind...</title>
	<author>hairyfish</author>
	<datestamp>1259068500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Who said never put down to malice what can be explained by incompetence.
I work for a Retail chain, and this sort of thing happens quite frequently due to plain old human error.
The monkeys typing prices into the system sometimes add an extra zero or miss a zero, or switch the rrp price with the discount price, or use the wrong UPC (barcode) associated with a discount.
I can't speak for Dell, but with us, it is boring old incompetence rather than any sinister plot to take your money.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who said never put down to malice what can be explained by incompetence .
I work for a Retail chain , and this sort of thing happens quite frequently due to plain old human error .
The monkeys typing prices into the system sometimes add an extra zero or miss a zero , or switch the rrp price with the discount price , or use the wrong UPC ( barcode ) associated with a discount .
I ca n't speak for Dell , but with us , it is boring old incompetence rather than any sinister plot to take your money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who said never put down to malice what can be explained by incompetence.
I work for a Retail chain, and this sort of thing happens quite frequently due to plain old human error.
The monkeys typing prices into the system sometimes add an extra zero or miss a zero, or switch the rrp price with the discount price, or use the wrong UPC (barcode) associated with a discount.
I can't speak for Dell, but with us, it is boring old incompetence rather than any sinister plot to take your money.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210222</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30213504</id>
	<title>Hello? Anti-Trust...</title>
	<author>Jawn98685</author>
	<datestamp>1259077140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not surprisingly, the tone of the responses reflects the usual<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. MS haters vs MS fanboys argument. Few of the respondents seem to have recognized that what Bing is doing here represents an alarming trend. Not that they're the first to play pricing games on the web, to be sure, but their's may well be the most far reaching. Setting aside the tortured ethics of the whole "rebate" or "cash rewards" scam, fucking with someone just because they are known to pay attention and actually try to take advantage of such schemes (Bing cookie present) is slimy business practice, to say the least.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not surprisingly , the tone of the responses reflects the usual / .
MS haters vs MS fanboys argument .
Few of the respondents seem to have recognized that what Bing is doing here represents an alarming trend .
Not that they 're the first to play pricing games on the web , to be sure , but their 's may well be the most far reaching .
Setting aside the tortured ethics of the whole " rebate " or " cash rewards " scam , fucking with someone just because they are known to pay attention and actually try to take advantage of such schemes ( Bing cookie present ) is slimy business practice , to say the least .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not surprisingly, the tone of the responses reflects the usual /.
MS haters vs MS fanboys argument.
Few of the respondents seem to have recognized that what Bing is doing here represents an alarming trend.
Not that they're the first to play pricing games on the web, to be sure, but their's may well be the most far reaching.
Setting aside the tortured ethics of the whole "rebate" or "cash rewards" scam, fucking with someone just because they are known to pay attention and actually try to take advantage of such schemes (Bing cookie present) is slimy business practice, to say the least.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30211020</id>
	<title>Re:No surprise ... price variations based on cooki</title>
	<author>mike2R</author>
	<datestamp>1259054940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>No surprise<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... price variations based on cookies<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... is old news. I remember reading about how cookies resident on the user's machine can cause different quoted prices to appear years ago<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... probably five years ago at least. I was able to test it at the time using two browsers with different cookie loads. It's definitely happening. Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure it was a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. story years ago that first mentioned it.</p></div></blockquote><p>A/B split testing is very common practice in ecommerce, for everything from site design, or cart functionality to shipping charges or prices.  Go onto an ecommerce forum and post something inane like "if I raise my prices, will I make more money?" and you'll get a generic "do a split test and see" response.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>No surprise ... price variations based on cookies ... is old news .
I remember reading about how cookies resident on the user 's machine can cause different quoted prices to appear years ago ... probably five years ago at least .
I was able to test it at the time using two browsers with different cookie loads .
It 's definitely happening .
Come to think of it , I 'm pretty sure it was a / .
story years ago that first mentioned it.A/B split testing is very common practice in ecommerce , for everything from site design , or cart functionality to shipping charges or prices .
Go onto an ecommerce forum and post something inane like " if I raise my prices , will I make more money ?
" and you 'll get a generic " do a split test and see " response .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No surprise ... price variations based on cookies ... is old news.
I remember reading about how cookies resident on the user's machine can cause different quoted prices to appear years ago ... probably five years ago at least.
I was able to test it at the time using two browsers with different cookie loads.
It's definitely happening.
Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure it was a /.
story years ago that first mentioned it.A/B split testing is very common practice in ecommerce, for everything from site design, or cart functionality to shipping charges or prices.
Go onto an ecommerce forum and post something inane like "if I raise my prices, will I make more money?
" and you'll get a generic "do a split test and see" response.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210230</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210408</id>
	<title>So basically it's that old "I'm taking 10\% off"?</title>
	<author>NotSoHeavyD3</author>
	<datestamp>1259001300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>You know, where a retailer jacks up the price a bit and then claims that he's taking off say 10\% because he likes you or some nonsense. The last time I had that happen was fairly recently with a cell phone carrier. (Which shall remain nameless.) This sounds like the same deal. I went on their web site and looked up how much a battery for my phone was and it listed a price. When I went to the local store they at first quoted a higher price and then said how they were giving me some money off. Surprise surprise it turned out to be the amount quoted on the web page.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You know , where a retailer jacks up the price a bit and then claims that he 's taking off say 10 \ % because he likes you or some nonsense .
The last time I had that happen was fairly recently with a cell phone carrier .
( Which shall remain nameless .
) This sounds like the same deal .
I went on their web site and looked up how much a battery for my phone was and it listed a price .
When I went to the local store they at first quoted a higher price and then said how they were giving me some money off .
Surprise surprise it turned out to be the amount quoted on the web page .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know, where a retailer jacks up the price a bit and then claims that he's taking off say 10\% because he likes you or some nonsense.
The last time I had that happen was fairly recently with a cell phone carrier.
(Which shall remain nameless.
) This sounds like the same deal.
I went on their web site and looked up how much a battery for my phone was and it listed a price.
When I went to the local store they at first quoted a higher price and then said how they were giving me some money off.
Surprise surprise it turned out to be the amount quoted on the web page.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210280</id>
	<title>Name change required, and all will be fine</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258999500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My top suggestions are:</p><p>Badda-BING</p><p>and</p><p>Kerr-Ching</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My top suggestions are : Badda-BINGandKerr-Ching</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My top suggestions are:Badda-BINGandKerr-Ching</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30217620</id>
	<title>Re:The first thing that came to mind...</title>
	<author>Glorat</author>
	<datestamp>1259095560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To be fair to them, the Dell employee purchase scheme does say that it's discount is applicable *on top of* any pre-existing sale discount. They just make it hard to find - when you go through the EPP site, they hide all the "regular" discounts</p><p>This didn't stop me from purchasing this Dell Studio I'm typing on, having received -&pound;300 from the regular offer and a further 5\% off via the EPP. Make use of it!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To be fair to them , the Dell employee purchase scheme does say that it 's discount is applicable * on top of * any pre-existing sale discount .
They just make it hard to find - when you go through the EPP site , they hide all the " regular " discountsThis did n't stop me from purchasing this Dell Studio I 'm typing on , having received -   300 from the regular offer and a further 5 \ % off via the EPP .
Make use of it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To be fair to them, the Dell employee purchase scheme does say that it's discount is applicable *on top of* any pre-existing sale discount.
They just make it hard to find - when you go through the EPP site, they hide all the "regular" discountsThis didn't stop me from purchasing this Dell Studio I'm typing on, having received -£300 from the regular offer and a further 5\% off via the EPP.
Make use of it!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210292</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30211336</id>
	<title>Duh, TANSTAAFL</title>
	<author>griffo</author>
	<datestamp>1259061480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Duh, TANSTAAFL</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Duh , TANSTAAFL</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Duh, TANSTAAFL</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30213554</id>
	<title>Translation of the "Response"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259077440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Merchants can use us to screw you over. If you are lucky enough to catch them, notify us and we will try and fix the issue."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Merchants can use us to screw you over .
If you are lucky enough to catch them , notify us and we will try and fix the issue .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Merchants can use us to screw you over.
If you are lucky enough to catch them, notify us and we will try and fix the issue.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210354</id>
	<title>Re:Instead of complaining, game the system.</title>
	<author>NoYob</author>
	<datestamp>1259000460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Find out what sites go higher and what sites go lower in quoted prices. Fake a cookie to maximize savings or delete it altogether if it gets you a uniformly higher price.</p><p>That's the behavior I'd expect from<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. . None of this Newsweek / Dateline NBC alarmist "They're using COMPUTER MACHINES to scam us!!!" Get on it, people.</p></div><p>Bing cashback developer goes into boss' office tomorrow:</p><p>You know boss, I've been doing this analysis of our system, and I've figured out a way to game the system.</p><p>Boss: "Good work coder Dude! For that, you won't get axed this month!"</p><p>I would think that MS developers may occasionally read this site.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Find out what sites go higher and what sites go lower in quoted prices .
Fake a cookie to maximize savings or delete it altogether if it gets you a uniformly higher price.That 's the behavior I 'd expect from / .
. None of this Newsweek / Dateline NBC alarmist " They 're using COMPUTER MACHINES to scam us ! ! !
" Get on it , people.Bing cashback developer goes into boss ' office tomorrow : You know boss , I 've been doing this analysis of our system , and I 've figured out a way to game the system.Boss : " Good work coder Dude !
For that , you wo n't get axed this month !
" I would think that MS developers may occasionally read this site .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Find out what sites go higher and what sites go lower in quoted prices.
Fake a cookie to maximize savings or delete it altogether if it gets you a uniformly higher price.That's the behavior I'd expect from /.
. None of this Newsweek / Dateline NBC alarmist "They're using COMPUTER MACHINES to scam us!!!
" Get on it, people.Bing cashback developer goes into boss' office tomorrow:You know boss, I've been doing this analysis of our system, and I've figured out a way to game the system.Boss: "Good work coder Dude!
For that, you won't get axed this month!
"I would think that MS developers may occasionally read this site.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210626</id>
	<title>Re:Instead of complaining, game the system.</title>
	<author>mysidia</author>
	<datestamp>1259004720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Actually.. there's good reason for the alarmism... it will discourage other people from using Bing, when they learn things are made more expensive for them.
</p><p>
Leaving fewer people to search for deals, once the word spreads... and perhaps better, more gamable deals for us<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.  users who have the extra time to do all the gaming, and know how to delete cookies and come from multiple IPs<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually.. there 's good reason for the alarmism... it will discourage other people from using Bing , when they learn things are made more expensive for them .
Leaving fewer people to search for deals , once the word spreads... and perhaps better , more gamable deals for us / .
users who have the extra time to do all the gaming , and know how to delete cookies and come from multiple IPs : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Actually.. there's good reason for the alarmism... it will discourage other people from using Bing, when they learn things are made more expensive for them.
Leaving fewer people to search for deals, once the word spreads... and perhaps better, more gamable deals for us /.
users who have the extra time to do all the gaming, and know how to delete cookies and come from multiple IPs :)
</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210192</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210172</id>
	<title>Hehe</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258998000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Deal with MS, get screwed.</p><p>Nothing to see here, move on....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Deal with MS , get screwed.Nothing to see here , move on... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Deal with MS, get screwed.Nothing to see here, move on....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30215186</id>
	<title>Re:Can't even find "slash dot"</title>
	<author>Necroloth</author>
	<datestamp>1259084100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>hrmm... weird... my first page was all links to various slashdot pages like main page, games, hardware, interviews, news etc</htmltext>
<tokenext>hrmm... weird... my first page was all links to various slashdot pages like main page , games , hardware , interviews , news etc</tokentext>
<sentencetext>hrmm... weird... my first page was all links to various slashdot pages like main page, games, hardware, interviews, news etc</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30211904</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210330</id>
	<title>Re:Reminds me of Amazon</title>
	<author>EsJay</author>
	<datestamp>1259000160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, I can has remembers that.

I never logged onto Amazon from my work machine, and could see different prices between work and home.
This was almost 10 years ago, I have not tested recently.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , I can has remembers that .
I never logged onto Amazon from my work machine , and could see different prices between work and home .
This was almost 10 years ago , I have not tested recently .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, I can has remembers that.
I never logged onto Amazon from my work machine, and could see different prices between work and home.
This was almost 10 years ago, I have not tested recently.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210218</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210728</id>
	<title>Re:Credit Cards?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259092800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not really. The merchant sets his price based on the fees he pays for the cc charge. Your rewards are dependent on the card issuer, independent of the fees the merchant is charged. Different merchants get charged different fees based on volume , number of chargebacks and the way they collected your information.  Your rewards are most likely paid out of the interest the issuing bank charges yourself and other cardholders.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not really .
The merchant sets his price based on the fees he pays for the cc charge .
Your rewards are dependent on the card issuer , independent of the fees the merchant is charged .
Different merchants get charged different fees based on volume , number of chargebacks and the way they collected your information .
Your rewards are most likely paid out of the interest the issuing bank charges yourself and other cardholders .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not really.
The merchant sets his price based on the fees he pays for the cc charge.
Your rewards are dependent on the card issuer, independent of the fees the merchant is charged.
Different merchants get charged different fees based on volume , number of chargebacks and the way they collected your information.
Your rewards are most likely paid out of the interest the issuing bank charges yourself and other cardholders.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210210</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210582</id>
	<title>Re:No surprise ... price variations based on cooki</title>
	<author>AK Marc</author>
	<datestamp>1259003880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Next up:<br> <br>When you go to Dell and click through as a home user vs a small business, the prices are different for the same machine!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Next up : When you go to Dell and click through as a home user vs a small business , the prices are different for the same machine !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Next up: When you go to Dell and click through as a home user vs a small business, the prices are different for the same machine!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210230</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210528</id>
	<title>Re:Instead of complaining, game the system.</title>
	<author>nacturation</author>
	<datestamp>1259002980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not just that but the site is unnecessarily fearmongering:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The problem doesn&rsquo;t end there.  Using Bing has <b>tainted my web browser</b>.  Butterfly Photo set a <b>three month cookie on my computer</b> to indicate that I came from Bing.  Any product I look at for the next three months may show a different price than I&rsquo;d get by going there directly.  Just clicking a Bing link means three months of potentially negative cashback, without me ever realizing it.  <b>I&rsquo;m actually afraid to use their service even just to write this</b>, because it may cost me money in the future.</p></div><p>(Emphasis mine.)  It's as if he's saying his computer is totally tainted now.  Why doesn't he just follow his own advice from step 4?</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Step 4: Open a different web browser or clear your cookies from butterflyphoto.com in your current one.  Go directly to their site and check the price.  $699!</p></div><p>There!  He knows that clearing his cookies solves the problem.  Why all this bullshit about being tainted for three months and being afraid to use their service to write a bloody blog post?  Does he think the "oh noes teh bing cookeez" are going to trash his blog and kill his hamster too?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not just that but the site is unnecessarily fearmongering : The problem doesn    t end there .
Using Bing has tainted my web browser .
Butterfly Photo set a three month cookie on my computer to indicate that I came from Bing .
Any product I look at for the next three months may show a different price than I    d get by going there directly .
Just clicking a Bing link means three months of potentially negative cashback , without me ever realizing it .
I    m actually afraid to use their service even just to write this , because it may cost me money in the future .
( Emphasis mine .
) It 's as if he 's saying his computer is totally tainted now .
Why does n't he just follow his own advice from step 4 ? Step 4 : Open a different web browser or clear your cookies from butterflyphoto.com in your current one .
Go directly to their site and check the price .
$ 699 ! There ! He knows that clearing his cookies solves the problem .
Why all this bullshit about being tainted for three months and being afraid to use their service to write a bloody blog post ?
Does he think the " oh noes teh bing cookeez " are going to trash his blog and kill his hamster too ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not just that but the site is unnecessarily fearmongering:The problem doesn’t end there.
Using Bing has tainted my web browser.
Butterfly Photo set a three month cookie on my computer to indicate that I came from Bing.
Any product I look at for the next three months may show a different price than I’d get by going there directly.
Just clicking a Bing link means three months of potentially negative cashback, without me ever realizing it.
I’m actually afraid to use their service even just to write this, because it may cost me money in the future.
(Emphasis mine.
)  It's as if he's saying his computer is totally tainted now.
Why doesn't he just follow his own advice from step 4?Step 4: Open a different web browser or clear your cookies from butterflyphoto.com in your current one.
Go directly to their site and check the price.
$699!There!  He knows that clearing his cookies solves the problem.
Why all this bullshit about being tainted for three months and being afraid to use their service to write a bloody blog post?
Does he think the "oh noes teh bing cookeez" are going to trash his blog and kill his hamster too?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210192</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30215152</id>
	<title>Re:Instead of complaining, game the system.</title>
	<author>Wannabe Code Monkey</author>
	<datestamp>1259083980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>There! He knows that clearing his cookies solves the problem. Why all this bullshit about being tainted for three months and being afraid to use their service to write a bloody blog post? Does he think the "oh noes teh bing cookeez" are going to trash his blog and kill his hamster too?</p></div></blockquote><p>Well, how about flash cookies? How do we know they didn't also run some very lightweight flash application just to set a cookie that most people wouldn't know about. Hell, most people don't know about regular cookies. I don't even know where flash stores its cookies or how I would get rid of them (don't you have to navigate to some Adobe site that runs a flash control panel or something?). I'm pretty sure there are some Firefox add-ons to delete flash cookies, and there's probably just a file somewhere in my profile directory, but I never think of it when I delete my other cookies. How about you?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There !
He knows that clearing his cookies solves the problem .
Why all this bullshit about being tainted for three months and being afraid to use their service to write a bloody blog post ?
Does he think the " oh noes teh bing cookeez " are going to trash his blog and kill his hamster too ? Well , how about flash cookies ?
How do we know they did n't also run some very lightweight flash application just to set a cookie that most people would n't know about .
Hell , most people do n't know about regular cookies .
I do n't even know where flash stores its cookies or how I would get rid of them ( do n't you have to navigate to some Adobe site that runs a flash control panel or something ? ) .
I 'm pretty sure there are some Firefox add-ons to delete flash cookies , and there 's probably just a file somewhere in my profile directory , but I never think of it when I delete my other cookies .
How about you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There!
He knows that clearing his cookies solves the problem.
Why all this bullshit about being tainted for three months and being afraid to use their service to write a bloody blog post?
Does he think the "oh noes teh bing cookeez" are going to trash his blog and kill his hamster too?Well, how about flash cookies?
How do we know they didn't also run some very lightweight flash application just to set a cookie that most people wouldn't know about.
Hell, most people don't know about regular cookies.
I don't even know where flash stores its cookies or how I would get rid of them (don't you have to navigate to some Adobe site that runs a flash control panel or something?).
I'm pretty sure there are some Firefox add-ons to delete flash cookies, and there's probably just a file somewhere in my profile directory, but I never think of it when I delete my other cookies.
How about you?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210528</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30214944</id>
	<title>Re:Come on, it's obviously the store that's shady</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259083200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of course it's the store that's shady.  What's insightful about that?  Neither the summary nor the article put the blame on Microsoft.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course it 's the store that 's shady .
What 's insightful about that ?
Neither the summary nor the article put the blame on Microsoft .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course it's the store that's shady.
What's insightful about that?
Neither the summary nor the article put the blame on Microsoft.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210220</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30217666</id>
	<title>Re:soo...</title>
	<author>Jesus\_666</author>
	<datestamp>1259095800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Then why is this in YRO and not in Hardware?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Then why is this in YRO and not in Hardware ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then why is this in YRO and not in Hardware?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210270</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30216538</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259090280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmmmm...as private individuals we buy software from MicroQuack at grossly inflated prices compared to what Dell pays, or the special deal Thailand got a few years back. &amp; MicroQuack turns around &amp; uses that money to turn us into Bing sluts?</p><p>Okaaaaayyyyyyy</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmmmm...as private individuals we buy software from MicroQuack at grossly inflated prices compared to what Dell pays , or the special deal Thailand got a few years back .
&amp; MicroQuack turns around &amp; uses that money to turn us into Bing sluts ? Okaaaaayyyyyyy</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmmmm...as private individuals we buy software from MicroQuack at grossly inflated prices compared to what Dell pays, or the special deal Thailand got a few years back.
&amp; MicroQuack turns around &amp; uses that money to turn us into Bing sluts?Okaaaaayyyyyyy</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210406</id>
	<title>I think I speak for us all when I say...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259001300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>...F Microsoft.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...F Microsoft .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...F Microsoft.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30212200</id>
	<title>Re:The first thing that came to mind...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259068800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yup, seen that too with Dell.</p><p>Our 'preferred' office supply source is basically determined by who will give the largest 'discount' off of their list prices.  Of course their list prices are ridiculously high, so much so that we get a specially branded catalog withour company name on it.  And prices are never competitive.  Try explaining that to the person who controls ordering... no success there.  For items which get bought once and never again, I could imagine going to a specialty vendor with inflated prices (just to save on the time of finding a cheap one for a $40 item purchased once), but for printer paper, pens and the like, our 'discount' is killing us.</p><p>Also, for a real point on the process here, a lot of companies won't deal with a purchase order through the same channels as a direct to consumer purchase, and thus all the pricing changes.  I think purchase orders end up being much more expensive to process for companies (a few cents for a credit card is nothing compared to a purchase order, where you have to pay someone to track them, and hassle customers when they're overdue etc.).</p><p>end gripe</p><p>-sk</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yup , seen that too with Dell.Our 'preferred ' office supply source is basically determined by who will give the largest 'discount ' off of their list prices .
Of course their list prices are ridiculously high , so much so that we get a specially branded catalog withour company name on it .
And prices are never competitive .
Try explaining that to the person who controls ordering... no success there .
For items which get bought once and never again , I could imagine going to a specialty vendor with inflated prices ( just to save on the time of finding a cheap one for a $ 40 item purchased once ) , but for printer paper , pens and the like , our 'discount ' is killing us.Also , for a real point on the process here , a lot of companies wo n't deal with a purchase order through the same channels as a direct to consumer purchase , and thus all the pricing changes .
I think purchase orders end up being much more expensive to process for companies ( a few cents for a credit card is nothing compared to a purchase order , where you have to pay someone to track them , and hassle customers when they 're overdue etc .
) .end gripe-sk</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yup, seen that too with Dell.Our 'preferred' office supply source is basically determined by who will give the largest 'discount' off of their list prices.
Of course their list prices are ridiculously high, so much so that we get a specially branded catalog withour company name on it.
And prices are never competitive.
Try explaining that to the person who controls ordering... no success there.
For items which get bought once and never again, I could imagine going to a specialty vendor with inflated prices (just to save on the time of finding a cheap one for a $40 item purchased once), but for printer paper, pens and the like, our 'discount' is killing us.Also, for a real point on the process here, a lot of companies won't deal with a purchase order through the same channels as a direct to consumer purchase, and thus all the pricing changes.
I think purchase orders end up being much more expensive to process for companies (a few cents for a credit card is nothing compared to a purchase order, where you have to pay someone to track them, and hassle customers when they're overdue etc.
).end gripe-sk</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210292</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30212826</id>
	<title>Re:The first thing that came to mind...</title>
	<author>mspohr</author>
	<datestamp>1259073240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I had the same problem a few years ago when my daughter started college.  Dell had a special discount for UCSD students.  It wasn't hard to figure out that the 'special' price after their 'discount' was more than the regular prices... waste of time scam.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I had the same problem a few years ago when my daughter started college .
Dell had a special discount for UCSD students .
It was n't hard to figure out that the 'special ' price after their 'discount ' was more than the regular prices... waste of time scam .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had the same problem a few years ago when my daughter started college.
Dell had a special discount for UCSD students.
It wasn't hard to figure out that the 'special' price after their 'discount' was more than the regular prices... waste of time scam.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210292</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210218</id>
	<title>Reminds me of Amazon</title>
	<author>gapagos</author>
	<datestamp>1258998660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I remember a long time ago about a story where Amazon charged more to its returning customers than new ones through a cookie like that.<br>Anyone has remembers this as well?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember a long time ago about a story where Amazon charged more to its returning customers than new ones through a cookie like that.Anyone has remembers this as well ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember a long time ago about a story where Amazon charged more to its returning customers than new ones through a cookie like that.Anyone has remembers this as well?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210240</id>
	<title>Re:Instead of complaining, game the system.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258998900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, well except for the fact that it's probably illegal to do what they are doing.</p><p>So it's OK to allow criminals to do whatever they want because this loose situations allows you the possibility of maybe scamming one of them instead of you getting scammed?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , well except for the fact that it 's probably illegal to do what they are doing.So it 's OK to allow criminals to do whatever they want because this loose situations allows you the possibility of maybe scamming one of them instead of you getting scammed ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, well except for the fact that it's probably illegal to do what they are doing.So it's OK to allow criminals to do whatever they want because this loose situations allows you the possibility of maybe scamming one of them instead of you getting scammed?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210192</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30212974</id>
	<title>Re:Credit Cards?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259074080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And then there's that awful "Bricks &amp; Mortar" tax. All those retailers with physical stores that require rent, maintenance, utilities, taxes, employees, security, etc. They try to pass those hidden fees on us unsuspecting consumers. Even those of us who purchase online!</p><p>And don't get me started about the whole "Merchant Needs to Make a Profit Tax"!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And then there 's that awful " Bricks &amp; Mortar " tax .
All those retailers with physical stores that require rent , maintenance , utilities , taxes , employees , security , etc .
They try to pass those hidden fees on us unsuspecting consumers .
Even those of us who purchase online ! And do n't get me started about the whole " Merchant Needs to Make a Profit Tax " ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And then there's that awful "Bricks &amp; Mortar" tax.
All those retailers with physical stores that require rent, maintenance, utilities, taxes, employees, security, etc.
They try to pass those hidden fees on us unsuspecting consumers.
Even those of us who purchase online!And don't get me started about the whole "Merchant Needs to Make a Profit Tax"!!
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30211128</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30211128</id>
	<title>Re:Credit Cards?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259057160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not to mention the hidden "parking lot" tax. Just as it costs retailers money to take credit cards, it costs them money to have parking space. They fraudulently present this as "free parking" when in fact the cost is hidden in the price of the goods.</p><p>Then, drivers think they're getting "free" parking when they aren't, and non-drivers such as myself who have never once used a parking space are 'gypped' untold amounts of money.</p><p>And don't even get me started on those leeches who use the so called "free" shopping carts...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to mention the hidden " parking lot " tax .
Just as it costs retailers money to take credit cards , it costs them money to have parking space .
They fraudulently present this as " free parking " when in fact the cost is hidden in the price of the goods.Then , drivers think they 're getting " free " parking when they are n't , and non-drivers such as myself who have never once used a parking space are 'gypped ' untold amounts of money.And do n't even get me started on those leeches who use the so called " free " shopping carts.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to mention the hidden "parking lot" tax.
Just as it costs retailers money to take credit cards, it costs them money to have parking space.
They fraudulently present this as "free parking" when in fact the cost is hidden in the price of the goods.Then, drivers think they're getting "free" parking when they aren't, and non-drivers such as myself who have never once used a parking space are 'gypped' untold amounts of money.And don't even get me started on those leeches who use the so called "free" shopping carts...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210210</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30211064</id>
	<title>Surprised? Really?</title>
	<author>Spazed</author>
	<datestamp>1259055780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>A Microsoft product having hidden costs? NO WAI!</htmltext>
<tokenext>A Microsoft product having hidden costs ?
NO WAI !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A Microsoft product having hidden costs?
NO WAI!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30212686</id>
	<title>Re:The first thing that came to mind...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259072520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is due to confusion in how "employee pricing" works.  Employees may get a discount, but most of the time vendors or employees are offered "employee pricing".  This is usually "invoice price" or "X dollars above invoice price".</p><p>To put this into a car analogy, lets say you want to buy a mazda 3 and you have a code to get you employee pricing.  If you go to buy this years model you will almost certainly be getting a great deal since no-one is selling a 2010 at invoice price.  On the contrary side, trying to buy an 09 will likely not save you any money.  They may be offering significant discounts on 09's to move them and your fixed employee price may be higher than what they are offering.</p><p>Just remember that employee pricing is asking for a fixed price.  You can use this to your advantage, but it doesn't automatically get you a deal.  What it can help is trying to get the best price off a particular dealer.  If you can get invoice pricing at any mazda dealer let them know you are looking at other dealerships.  There is almost always a "500 dollar off" or "1000 dollar off" coupon in there somewhere.</p><p>I managed to get 100 over invoice on my last subaru and I wasn't up for employee pricing-- but I was up for it on a mazda.  This info somehow got them to magically lower the sticker price by almost 3000 dollars.  It was still more expensive, but they "matched the deal" so to speak and I saved a lot more than I would have just arguing on my own.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is due to confusion in how " employee pricing " works .
Employees may get a discount , but most of the time vendors or employees are offered " employee pricing " .
This is usually " invoice price " or " X dollars above invoice price " .To put this into a car analogy , lets say you want to buy a mazda 3 and you have a code to get you employee pricing .
If you go to buy this years model you will almost certainly be getting a great deal since no-one is selling a 2010 at invoice price .
On the contrary side , trying to buy an 09 will likely not save you any money .
They may be offering significant discounts on 09 's to move them and your fixed employee price may be higher than what they are offering.Just remember that employee pricing is asking for a fixed price .
You can use this to your advantage , but it does n't automatically get you a deal .
What it can help is trying to get the best price off a particular dealer .
If you can get invoice pricing at any mazda dealer let them know you are looking at other dealerships .
There is almost always a " 500 dollar off " or " 1000 dollar off " coupon in there somewhere.I managed to get 100 over invoice on my last subaru and I was n't up for employee pricing-- but I was up for it on a mazda .
This info somehow got them to magically lower the sticker price by almost 3000 dollars .
It was still more expensive , but they " matched the deal " so to speak and I saved a lot more than I would have just arguing on my own .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is due to confusion in how "employee pricing" works.
Employees may get a discount, but most of the time vendors or employees are offered "employee pricing".
This is usually "invoice price" or "X dollars above invoice price".To put this into a car analogy, lets say you want to buy a mazda 3 and you have a code to get you employee pricing.
If you go to buy this years model you will almost certainly be getting a great deal since no-one is selling a 2010 at invoice price.
On the contrary side, trying to buy an 09 will likely not save you any money.
They may be offering significant discounts on 09's to move them and your fixed employee price may be higher than what they are offering.Just remember that employee pricing is asking for a fixed price.
You can use this to your advantage, but it doesn't automatically get you a deal.
What it can help is trying to get the best price off a particular dealer.
If you can get invoice pricing at any mazda dealer let them know you are looking at other dealerships.
There is almost always a "500 dollar off" or "1000 dollar off" coupon in there somewhere.I managed to get 100 over invoice on my last subaru and I wasn't up for employee pricing-- but I was up for it on a mazda.
This info somehow got them to magically lower the sticker price by almost 3000 dollars.
It was still more expensive, but they "matched the deal" so to speak and I saved a lot more than I would have just arguing on my own.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210222</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30212588</id>
	<title>Re:Credit Cards?</title>
	<author>Jeff DeMaagd</author>
	<datestamp>1259071920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In the case of online retailers, all of the convenient forms of payment have a roughly 3\% fee, the playing field is pretty level on that front.  People might try to pay by mailing a check or money order, but that's going to delay shipping and adds points of failure.</p><p>One thing that isn't level is the rewards part.  I don't like that the rewards cards tend to charge a little extra, but they also tend to have higher interest for the users too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the case of online retailers , all of the convenient forms of payment have a roughly 3 \ % fee , the playing field is pretty level on that front .
People might try to pay by mailing a check or money order , but that 's going to delay shipping and adds points of failure.One thing that is n't level is the rewards part .
I do n't like that the rewards cards tend to charge a little extra , but they also tend to have higher interest for the users too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the case of online retailers, all of the convenient forms of payment have a roughly 3\% fee, the playing field is pretty level on that front.
People might try to pay by mailing a check or money order, but that's going to delay shipping and adds points of failure.One thing that isn't level is the rewards part.
I don't like that the rewards cards tend to charge a little extra, but they also tend to have higher interest for the users too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210210</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30212044</id>
	<title>Mental note</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259067360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just made sure my browser has zero bing cookies.</p><p>And then made a mental note to never go to the bing site.</p><p>Problem solved.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just made sure my browser has zero bing cookies.And then made a mental note to never go to the bing site.Problem solved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just made sure my browser has zero bing cookies.And then made a mental note to never go to the bing site.Problem solved.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210216</id>
	<title>Please HELP  MISSING PESON !!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258998600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Please Help Us With this Missing Person:</p><p>
&nbsp; <a href="http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1629/1113mssingpersonmugshot.jpg" title="imageshack.us" rel="nofollow">http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1629/1113mssingpersonmugshot.jpg</a> [imageshack.us]</p><p>If You Have Information, Please See the Contact Here:</p><p>
&nbsp; <a href="http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/13/missing-persons-singer-finds-herself-in-jail/" title="tmz.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/13/missing-persons-singer-finds-herself-in-jail/</a> [tmz.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Please Help Us With this Missing Person :   http : //img4.imageshack.us/img4/1629/1113mssingpersonmugshot.jpg [ imageshack.us ] If You Have Information , Please See the Contact Here :   http : //www.tmz.com/2009/11/13/missing-persons-singer-finds-herself-in-jail/ [ tmz.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please Help Us With this Missing Person:
  http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1629/1113mssingpersonmugshot.jpg [imageshack.us]If You Have Information, Please See the Contact Here:
  http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/13/missing-persons-singer-finds-herself-in-jail/ [tmz.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30213154</id>
	<title>Re:Instead of complaining, game the system.</title>
	<author>BlueBoxSW.com</author>
	<datestamp>1259075040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree completely.</p><p>I hate this "the world doesn't work the way I want it to... WHAAAAA!" attitude that has cropped up on slashdot lately.</p><p>Let's crack this problem wide open.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree completely.I hate this " the world does n't work the way I want it to.. .
WHAAAAA ! " attitude that has cropped up on slashdot lately.Let 's crack this problem wide open .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree completely.I hate this "the world doesn't work the way I want it to...
WHAAAAA!" attitude that has cropped up on slashdot lately.Let's crack this problem wide open.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210192</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30211136</id>
	<title>Is this news?</title>
	<author>DrXym</author>
	<datestamp>1259057280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My wife was buying some bags the other day. If you visited the site cookie-less, it offered 20\% off the list price and free shipping. But if you came in through an affiliate site, the offer disappeared in a puff of smoke, often replaced by a lesser offer. We discovered this when the price of the shopping cart suddenly leapt from $120 to $163 after she returned to the site from another link. In the end I had to zap all the cookies on the site and create a new cart to get back to the original price.
<p>
Point being that if you click an affiliate link, or enter through a partner site, there is no guarantee you'll be seeing the same prices. I expect lots of sites run various promotions in parallel, and if one of those offers a cut to an affiliate, it may work out worse for the buyer. If in doubt zap your cookies, or launch two browsers (one through tor if necessary), create baskets with the same items and compare the outcome.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My wife was buying some bags the other day .
If you visited the site cookie-less , it offered 20 \ % off the list price and free shipping .
But if you came in through an affiliate site , the offer disappeared in a puff of smoke , often replaced by a lesser offer .
We discovered this when the price of the shopping cart suddenly leapt from $ 120 to $ 163 after she returned to the site from another link .
In the end I had to zap all the cookies on the site and create a new cart to get back to the original price .
Point being that if you click an affiliate link , or enter through a partner site , there is no guarantee you 'll be seeing the same prices .
I expect lots of sites run various promotions in parallel , and if one of those offers a cut to an affiliate , it may work out worse for the buyer .
If in doubt zap your cookies , or launch two browsers ( one through tor if necessary ) , create baskets with the same items and compare the outcome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My wife was buying some bags the other day.
If you visited the site cookie-less, it offered 20\% off the list price and free shipping.
But if you came in through an affiliate site, the offer disappeared in a puff of smoke, often replaced by a lesser offer.
We discovered this when the price of the shopping cart suddenly leapt from $120 to $163 after she returned to the site from another link.
In the end I had to zap all the cookies on the site and create a new cart to get back to the original price.
Point being that if you click an affiliate link, or enter through a partner site, there is no guarantee you'll be seeing the same prices.
I expect lots of sites run various promotions in parallel, and if one of those offers a cut to an affiliate, it may work out worse for the buyer.
If in doubt zap your cookies, or launch two browsers (one through tor if necessary), create baskets with the same items and compare the outcome.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210192</id>
	<title>Instead of complaining, game the system.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258998240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Find out what sites go higher and what sites go lower in quoted prices. Fake a cookie to maximize savings or delete it altogether if it gets you a uniformly higher price.</p><p>That's the behavior I'd expect from<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. . None of this Newsweek / Dateline NBC alarmist "They're using COMPUTER MACHINES to scam us!!!" Get on it, people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Find out what sites go higher and what sites go lower in quoted prices .
Fake a cookie to maximize savings or delete it altogether if it gets you a uniformly higher price.That 's the behavior I 'd expect from / .
. None of this Newsweek / Dateline NBC alarmist " They 're using COMPUTER MACHINES to scam us ! ! !
" Get on it , people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Find out what sites go higher and what sites go lower in quoted prices.
Fake a cookie to maximize savings or delete it altogether if it gets you a uniformly higher price.That's the behavior I'd expect from /.
. None of this Newsweek / Dateline NBC alarmist "They're using COMPUTER MACHINES to scam us!!!
" Get on it, people.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210478</id>
	<title>Re:soo...</title>
	<author>Anachragnome</author>
	<datestamp>1259002320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nice catch. Most interesting.</p><p>You deserve a cookie.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nice catch .
Most interesting.You deserve a cookie .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nice catch.
Most interesting.You deserve a cookie.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210270</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210206</id>
	<title>Disclaimer: TFA author works for a bing competitor</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258998480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I read the article; the author works for Bountii which also directs users to places to shop for things.  What the article describes is one retailer specifically inflating prices of things when a user comes from Bing.  That same retailer could just as easily do the same for links from the author's own site, Bountii.  They even go as far to state "At Bountii, we do our best to make sure we always show the lowest available price at a store."    It just seems a bit disingenuous to me I guess.</p><p>So 'ButterflyPhoto.com' is slime; thanks, got it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I read the article ; the author works for Bountii which also directs users to places to shop for things .
What the article describes is one retailer specifically inflating prices of things when a user comes from Bing .
That same retailer could just as easily do the same for links from the author 's own site , Bountii .
They even go as far to state " At Bountii , we do our best to make sure we always show the lowest available price at a store .
" It just seems a bit disingenuous to me I guess.So 'ButterflyPhoto.com ' is slime ; thanks , got it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read the article; the author works for Bountii which also directs users to places to shop for things.
What the article describes is one retailer specifically inflating prices of things when a user comes from Bing.
That same retailer could just as easily do the same for links from the author's own site, Bountii.
They even go as far to state "At Bountii, we do our best to make sure we always show the lowest available price at a store.
"    It just seems a bit disingenuous to me I guess.So 'ButterflyPhoto.com' is slime; thanks, got it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210944</id>
	<title>Re:Credit Cards?</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1259053440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Sounds like the hidden credit card tax. Everything you buy is a few cents extra to cover credit card costs.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>A few cents?!? If only... card processing fees are several percent of the transaction, so for a $100 item, try several <i>dollars</i> extra.

</p><p>Laws/card processor contracts prevent merchants from adding a surcharge if you pay with credit card, but they <i>do</i> allow giving you a discount if you pay with cash. Anytime you're making a large purchase, bring this up with the cashier, asking for a manager if necessary. If their card processing fee is X\%, ask to have an (X-1)\% discount for using cash. They avoid the card fee, get a little extra, and you get a discount; everyone wins (except the credit card company... boo hoo).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds like the hidden credit card tax .
Everything you buy is a few cents extra to cover credit card costs .
A few cents ? ! ?
If only... card processing fees are several percent of the transaction , so for a $ 100 item , try several dollars extra .
Laws/card processor contracts prevent merchants from adding a surcharge if you pay with credit card , but they do allow giving you a discount if you pay with cash .
Anytime you 're making a large purchase , bring this up with the cashier , asking for a manager if necessary .
If their card processing fee is X \ % , ask to have an ( X-1 ) \ % discount for using cash .
They avoid the card fee , get a little extra , and you get a discount ; everyone wins ( except the credit card company... boo hoo ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds like the hidden credit card tax.
Everything you buy is a few cents extra to cover credit card costs.
A few cents?!?
If only... card processing fees are several percent of the transaction, so for a $100 item, try several dollars extra.
Laws/card processor contracts prevent merchants from adding a surcharge if you pay with credit card, but they do allow giving you a discount if you pay with cash.
Anytime you're making a large purchase, bring this up with the cashier, asking for a manager if necessary.
If their card processing fee is X\%, ask to have an (X-1)\% discount for using cash.
They avoid the card fee, get a little extra, and you get a discount; everyone wins (except the credit card company... boo hoo).
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210210</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30212530</id>
	<title>Re:Disclaimer: TFA author works for a bing competi</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259071560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not surprised, camera shops are one of those things that are commonly operated by scammers.  Camera scammers tend to give you a low price for the camera, but try to make you pay extra for the battery that was already included.  Sometimes they sell units with no domestic warranty (gray market), and sometimes they won't sell you the camera unless you buy extra warranties or extra accessories.  If you refuse to buy the things, they might just not sell it to you.  Or just take your money and run.</p><p>Check this shop's ratings at resellerratings.com: <a href="http://www.resellerratings.com/store/ButterFly\_Photo" title="resellerratings.com">http://www.resellerratings.com/store/ButterFly\_Photo</a> [resellerratings.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not surprised , camera shops are one of those things that are commonly operated by scammers .
Camera scammers tend to give you a low price for the camera , but try to make you pay extra for the battery that was already included .
Sometimes they sell units with no domestic warranty ( gray market ) , and sometimes they wo n't sell you the camera unless you buy extra warranties or extra accessories .
If you refuse to buy the things , they might just not sell it to you .
Or just take your money and run.Check this shop 's ratings at resellerratings.com : http : //www.resellerratings.com/store/ButterFly \ _Photo [ resellerratings.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not surprised, camera shops are one of those things that are commonly operated by scammers.
Camera scammers tend to give you a low price for the camera, but try to make you pay extra for the battery that was already included.
Sometimes they sell units with no domestic warranty (gray market), and sometimes they won't sell you the camera unless you buy extra warranties or extra accessories.
If you refuse to buy the things, they might just not sell it to you.
Or just take your money and run.Check this shop's ratings at resellerratings.com: http://www.resellerratings.com/store/ButterFly\_Photo [resellerratings.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210206</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30213298</id>
	<title>That's okay</title>
	<author>Cro Magnon</author>
	<datestamp>1259075940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dealing with online retailers make me want to toss my cookies anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dealing with online retailers make me want to toss my cookies anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dealing with online retailers make me want to toss my cookies anyway.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30211288</id>
	<title>Re:So basically it's that old "I'm taking 10\% off"</title>
	<author>GrumblyStuff</author>
	<datestamp>1259059980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why would you leave out names of companies who pulls this kind of shit?</p><p>It might be a bad apple but give potential buyers an idea what to look out for should they be in the market for similar products.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why would you leave out names of companies who pulls this kind of shit ? It might be a bad apple but give potential buyers an idea what to look out for should they be in the market for similar products .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why would you leave out names of companies who pulls this kind of shit?It might be a bad apple but give potential buyers an idea what to look out for should they be in the market for similar products.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210408</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210210</id>
	<title>Credit Cards?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258998480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sounds like the hidden credit card tax. Everything you buy is a few cents extra to cover credit card costs. Then you get "rewards" for using your card. Meanwhile everyone else gets 'gypped' 2 cents. Yes, it is different, but still similar.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds like the hidden credit card tax .
Everything you buy is a few cents extra to cover credit card costs .
Then you get " rewards " for using your card .
Meanwhile everyone else gets 'gypped ' 2 cents .
Yes , it is different , but still similar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds like the hidden credit card tax.
Everything you buy is a few cents extra to cover credit card costs.
Then you get "rewards" for using your card.
Meanwhile everyone else gets 'gypped' 2 cents.
Yes, it is different, but still similar.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210402</id>
	<title>Re:Reminds me of Amazon</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259001240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I never heard of that. Besides, why would Amazon need to rely on a browser's cookie to identify returning customers when Amazon requires customers to have an account with them and be logged in before purchases are made?</p></div><p>Because if simply logging in or out changed the prices, you'd know right away something was amiss.  If it was cookie-driven, then it would not rely on you having to login and Amazon could always show you the inflated price regardless of your login status.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I never heard of that .
Besides , why would Amazon need to rely on a browser 's cookie to identify returning customers when Amazon requires customers to have an account with them and be logged in before purchases are made ? Because if simply logging in or out changed the prices , you 'd know right away something was amiss .
If it was cookie-driven , then it would not rely on you having to login and Amazon could always show you the inflated price regardless of your login status .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I never heard of that.
Besides, why would Amazon need to rely on a browser's cookie to identify returning customers when Amazon requires customers to have an account with them and be logged in before purchases are made?Because if simply logging in or out changed the prices, you'd know right away something was amiss.
If it was cookie-driven, then it would not rely on you having to login and Amazon could always show you the inflated price regardless of your login status.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210238</id>
	<title>Doesn't work for me</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258998840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bing shows higher price for butterflyphoto.com on their site, but when bing redirects, butterflyphoto is showing the lower price.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bing shows higher price for butterflyphoto.com on their site , but when bing redirects , butterflyphoto is showing the lower price .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bing shows higher price for butterflyphoto.com on their site, but when bing redirects, butterflyphoto is showing the lower price.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_0112201.30210668</id>
	<title>Re:Reminds me of Amazon</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259005260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Yes, and they still do it sometimes.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , and they still do it sometimes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Yes, and they still do it sometimes.
</sentencetext>
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