<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_21_1416248</id>
	<title>WHO Says Swine Flu May Have Peaked In the US</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1258820280000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://hughpickens.com/slashdot/" rel="nofollow">Hugh Pickens</a> writes <i>"The World Health Organization says that <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/21/health/21flu.html">there were 'early signs of a peak' in swine flu activity</a> in parts of the Northern Hemisphere, including the US. The American College Health Association, which surveys more than 250 colleges with more than three million students, said new flu cases had dropped 27 percent in the week ending on November 13th from the week before, the first drop since school resumed in the fall. Nonetheless, Dr. Anne Schuchat, the director of vaccination and respiratory disease at the CDC, chose her words carefully. '<a href="http://health.usnews.com/articles/health/healthday/2009/11/20/swine-flu-declining-in-some-parts-of-us.html">We are in better shape today than we were a couple of weeks ago</a>,' she says.  'I wish I knew if we had hit the peak. Even if a peak has occurred, half the people who are going to get sick haven't gotten sick yet.' Privately, federal health officials say they fear that if they concede the flu has peaked, Americans will become complacent and lose interest in getting vaccinated, increasing the chances of another wave. However, Dr. Lone Simonsen, a former CDC epidemiologist, says she expects a third wave in December or January, possibly beginning in the South again. Based on death rates in New York City and in Scandinavia, Simonsen argues that both 1918 and 1957 had mild spring waves followed by two stronger waves, one in fall and one in midwinter, adding that <a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5gc7qCElPnMDWAORhR8FUaNOVZqVA">in the pandemic of 1889, the bulk of the deaths occurred in the third wave</a>. 'If people think it's going away, they can think again.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hugh Pickens writes " The World Health Organization says that there were 'early signs of a peak ' in swine flu activity in parts of the Northern Hemisphere , including the US .
The American College Health Association , which surveys more than 250 colleges with more than three million students , said new flu cases had dropped 27 percent in the week ending on November 13th from the week before , the first drop since school resumed in the fall .
Nonetheless , Dr. Anne Schuchat , the director of vaccination and respiratory disease at the CDC , chose her words carefully .
'We are in better shape today than we were a couple of weeks ago, ' she says .
'I wish I knew if we had hit the peak .
Even if a peak has occurred , half the people who are going to get sick have n't gotten sick yet .
' Privately , federal health officials say they fear that if they concede the flu has peaked , Americans will become complacent and lose interest in getting vaccinated , increasing the chances of another wave .
However , Dr. Lone Simonsen , a former CDC epidemiologist , says she expects a third wave in December or January , possibly beginning in the South again .
Based on death rates in New York City and in Scandinavia , Simonsen argues that both 1918 and 1957 had mild spring waves followed by two stronger waves , one in fall and one in midwinter , adding that in the pandemic of 1889 , the bulk of the deaths occurred in the third wave .
'If people think it 's going away , they can think again .
' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hugh Pickens writes "The World Health Organization says that there were 'early signs of a peak' in swine flu activity in parts of the Northern Hemisphere, including the US.
The American College Health Association, which surveys more than 250 colleges with more than three million students, said new flu cases had dropped 27 percent in the week ending on November 13th from the week before, the first drop since school resumed in the fall.
Nonetheless, Dr. Anne Schuchat, the director of vaccination and respiratory disease at the CDC, chose her words carefully.
'We are in better shape today than we were a couple of weeks ago,' she says.
'I wish I knew if we had hit the peak.
Even if a peak has occurred, half the people who are going to get sick haven't gotten sick yet.
' Privately, federal health officials say they fear that if they concede the flu has peaked, Americans will become complacent and lose interest in getting vaccinated, increasing the chances of another wave.
However, Dr. Lone Simonsen, a former CDC epidemiologist, says she expects a third wave in December or January, possibly beginning in the South again.
Based on death rates in New York City and in Scandinavia, Simonsen argues that both 1918 and 1957 had mild spring waves followed by two stronger waves, one in fall and one in midwinter, adding that in the pandemic of 1889, the bulk of the deaths occurred in the third wave.
'If people think it's going away, they can think again.
'"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185438</id>
	<title>Re:Where does the money go?</title>
	<author>Afforess</author>
	<datestamp>1258826220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because the lost productivity from having massive amounts of the workforce absent due to illness, never mind the costs of delays and other problems would cost us more than one billion. <br> <br>

(Swine Flu) A virus that was super-contagious and infected nearly everyone, and got them sick for 2 weeks, but barely anyone would die from would be far more economically damaging than a virus that was not very contagious, but killed all those it infected. (HIV)<br> <br> This is because our economy was never meant to handle a mass exodus of workers. We're lucky it wasn't worse than it was. In places in Michigan, 1/2 of entire counties got sick, and schools and businesses were closed for days. <br> <br> Just because <i>You</i> didn't get sick doesn't mean the illness is trivial.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because the lost productivity from having massive amounts of the workforce absent due to illness , never mind the costs of delays and other problems would cost us more than one billion .
( Swine Flu ) A virus that was super-contagious and infected nearly everyone , and got them sick for 2 weeks , but barely anyone would die from would be far more economically damaging than a virus that was not very contagious , but killed all those it infected .
( HIV ) This is because our economy was never meant to handle a mass exodus of workers .
We 're lucky it was n't worse than it was .
In places in Michigan , 1/2 of entire counties got sick , and schools and businesses were closed for days .
Just because You did n't get sick does n't mean the illness is trivial .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because the lost productivity from having massive amounts of the workforce absent due to illness, never mind the costs of delays and other problems would cost us more than one billion.
(Swine Flu) A virus that was super-contagious and infected nearly everyone, and got them sick for 2 weeks, but barely anyone would die from would be far more economically damaging than a virus that was not very contagious, but killed all those it infected.
(HIV)  This is because our economy was never meant to handle a mass exodus of workers.
We're lucky it wasn't worse than it was.
In places in Michigan, 1/2 of entire counties got sick, and schools and businesses were closed for days.
Just because You didn't get sick doesn't mean the illness is trivial.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30186796</id>
	<title>Re:Where does the money go?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258834560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Because the lost productivity from having massive amounts of the workforce absent due to illness, never mind the costs of delays and other problems would cost us more than one billion.</p><p>(Swine Flu) A virus that was super-contagious and infected nearly everyone, and got them sick for 2 weeks, but barely anyone would die from would be far more economically damaging than a virus that was not very contagious, but killed all those it infected. (HIV)</p><p>
&nbsp; This is because our economy was never meant to handle a mass exodus of workers. We're lucky it wasn't worse than it was. In places in Michigan, 1/2 of entire counties got sick, and schools and businesses were closed for days.</p><p>
&nbsp; Just because <i>You</i> didn't get sick doesn't mean the illness is trivial.</p></div><p>Fortunately for us here in Michigan, nobody was working anyway</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because the lost productivity from having massive amounts of the workforce absent due to illness , never mind the costs of delays and other problems would cost us more than one billion .
( Swine Flu ) A virus that was super-contagious and infected nearly everyone , and got them sick for 2 weeks , but barely anyone would die from would be far more economically damaging than a virus that was not very contagious , but killed all those it infected .
( HIV )   This is because our economy was never meant to handle a mass exodus of workers .
We 're lucky it was n't worse than it was .
In places in Michigan , 1/2 of entire counties got sick , and schools and businesses were closed for days .
  Just because You did n't get sick does n't mean the illness is trivial.Fortunately for us here in Michigan , nobody was working anyway</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because the lost productivity from having massive amounts of the workforce absent due to illness, never mind the costs of delays and other problems would cost us more than one billion.
(Swine Flu) A virus that was super-contagious and infected nearly everyone, and got them sick for 2 weeks, but barely anyone would die from would be far more economically damaging than a virus that was not very contagious, but killed all those it infected.
(HIV)
  This is because our economy was never meant to handle a mass exodus of workers.
We're lucky it wasn't worse than it was.
In places in Michigan, 1/2 of entire counties got sick, and schools and businesses were closed for days.
  Just because You didn't get sick doesn't mean the illness is trivial.Fortunately for us here in Michigan, nobody was working anyway
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30186744</id>
	<title>Re:Who?</title>
	<author>ari\_j</author>
	<datestamp>1258834200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No, Well It Wasn't Me is the shortstop!
<br> <br>
I actually have a complete mental block that keeps me from reading headlines involving the WHO as anything but the British rock band The Who.  So then I end up with bizarre lyrics stuck in my head:
<br> <br>
Swine flu may have peaked in the US<br>
Talkin' 'bout my generation...</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , Well It Was n't Me is the shortstop !
I actually have a complete mental block that keeps me from reading headlines involving the WHO as anything but the British rock band The Who .
So then I end up with bizarre lyrics stuck in my head : Swine flu may have peaked in the US Talkin ' 'bout my generation.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, Well It Wasn't Me is the shortstop!
I actually have a complete mental block that keeps me from reading headlines involving the WHO as anything but the British rock band The Who.
So then I end up with bizarre lyrics stuck in my head:
 
Swine flu may have peaked in the US
Talkin' 'bout my generation...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30186902</id>
	<title>Not me</title>
	<author>mangu</author>
	<datestamp>1258835220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>...we're *not* all gonna die?</p></div></blockquote><p>I intend to outlive old age. By the time I reach my natural span, improvements in medicine will let me survive the next decades until a definitive cure for aging is found.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...we 're * not * all gon na die ? I intend to outlive old age .
By the time I reach my natural span , improvements in medicine will let me survive the next decades until a definitive cure for aging is found .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...we're *not* all gonna die?I intend to outlive old age.
By the time I reach my natural span, improvements in medicine will let me survive the next decades until a definitive cure for aging is found.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185494</id>
	<title>Theory, not history.</title>
	<author>Vellmont</author>
	<datestamp>1258826640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd be a lot more inclined to believe a well proven theory than simply looking at the history of past epidemics.  With so much talk about history predicting the present, it indicates to me that the knowledge of how epidemics work and how viruses mutate is extremely poor.  As an example, we can fairly accurately predict where a hurricane will move in the next few days, but I've never heard anyone say "well, in 1992 Hurricane Andrew went west, then south, then east.  It's possible Hurricane XYZ might take a similar route!"</p><p>What WOULD be an interesting historical perspective would be comparing deaths, hospitalizations, etc of H1N1 with past pandemics.  This wouldn't be predictive in any meaningful way, but it would put this pandemic in perspective.  Obviously this is nothing compared to 1918, but how does it compare to the 1957-1958, or the 1968-1969 pandemics?  Was the media response as crazy then as it is today?  That might actually be very informative, rather than these nonsense largely ignorance based "predictions".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd be a lot more inclined to believe a well proven theory than simply looking at the history of past epidemics .
With so much talk about history predicting the present , it indicates to me that the knowledge of how epidemics work and how viruses mutate is extremely poor .
As an example , we can fairly accurately predict where a hurricane will move in the next few days , but I 've never heard anyone say " well , in 1992 Hurricane Andrew went west , then south , then east .
It 's possible Hurricane XYZ might take a similar route !
" What WOULD be an interesting historical perspective would be comparing deaths , hospitalizations , etc of H1N1 with past pandemics .
This would n't be predictive in any meaningful way , but it would put this pandemic in perspective .
Obviously this is nothing compared to 1918 , but how does it compare to the 1957-1958 , or the 1968-1969 pandemics ?
Was the media response as crazy then as it is today ?
That might actually be very informative , rather than these nonsense largely ignorance based " predictions " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd be a lot more inclined to believe a well proven theory than simply looking at the history of past epidemics.
With so much talk about history predicting the present, it indicates to me that the knowledge of how epidemics work and how viruses mutate is extremely poor.
As an example, we can fairly accurately predict where a hurricane will move in the next few days, but I've never heard anyone say "well, in 1992 Hurricane Andrew went west, then south, then east.
It's possible Hurricane XYZ might take a similar route!
"What WOULD be an interesting historical perspective would be comparing deaths, hospitalizations, etc of H1N1 with past pandemics.
This wouldn't be predictive in any meaningful way, but it would put this pandemic in perspective.
Obviously this is nothing compared to 1918, but how does it compare to the 1957-1958, or the 1968-1969 pandemics?
Was the media response as crazy then as it is today?
That might actually be very informative, rather than these nonsense largely ignorance based "predictions".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30191190</id>
	<title>who</title>
	<author>cavebison</author>
	<datestamp>1258828080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfmvkO5x6Ng" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">WHO says?</a> [youtube.com] <br>
<br>
sorry, someone had to..</htmltext>
<tokenext>WHO says ?
[ youtube.com ] sorry , someone had to. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WHO says?
[youtube.com] 

sorry, someone had to..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185120</id>
	<title>who? us?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258824660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>'who says'? 'In the us'?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>'who says ' ?
'In the us ' ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>'who says'?
'In the us'?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30186140</id>
	<title>Re:Where does the money go?</title>
	<author>Kjella</author>
	<datestamp>1258830660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Any company that goes under that quickly was standing at the edge of the abyss, this is nowhere near an economy killer. Unless the US is standing on the edge of the abyss, but that's a different problem entirely. The economy can have setbacks without going into a Great Depression II death spiral, and temporary things like people falling sick for a few weeks isn't it. There's far bigger structural issues that the US is struggling with, right now they seem to go for the credit card trap - taking up more debt to make payment but will end up in a worse position than where they started. I'm curios to see what the world will look like in 2015, there will be Change and I don't mean Obama.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Any company that goes under that quickly was standing at the edge of the abyss , this is nowhere near an economy killer .
Unless the US is standing on the edge of the abyss , but that 's a different problem entirely .
The economy can have setbacks without going into a Great Depression II death spiral , and temporary things like people falling sick for a few weeks is n't it .
There 's far bigger structural issues that the US is struggling with , right now they seem to go for the credit card trap - taking up more debt to make payment but will end up in a worse position than where they started .
I 'm curios to see what the world will look like in 2015 , there will be Change and I do n't mean Obama .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Any company that goes under that quickly was standing at the edge of the abyss, this is nowhere near an economy killer.
Unless the US is standing on the edge of the abyss, but that's a different problem entirely.
The economy can have setbacks without going into a Great Depression II death spiral, and temporary things like people falling sick for a few weeks isn't it.
There's far bigger structural issues that the US is struggling with, right now they seem to go for the credit card trap - taking up more debt to make payment but will end up in a worse position than where they started.
I'm curios to see what the world will look like in 2015, there will be Change and I don't mean Obama.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30187924</id>
	<title>Re:"Pandemics" are the new "terrorists".</title>
	<author>umghhh</author>
	<datestamp>1258798680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>well I am not sure about politicians here - it seems to me that somebody was tweaking pandemic definitions of late. Hmmmm who might be this evil person? <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1202389/Government-virus-expert-paid-116k-swine-flu-vaccine-manufacturers.html" title="dailymail.co.uk">History of an interview by Sir Roy Andersson</a> [dailymail.co.uk] is really a teaching one.  The article is not very exact possibly (what can you expect from daily mail) but - the guy apparently acquired some problems after his interview with BBC.
Donno about conspiracy but the whole story looks just too bad to be a result of incompetence only. Just why they removed mortality and morbidity from definition???</htmltext>
<tokenext>well I am not sure about politicians here - it seems to me that somebody was tweaking pandemic definitions of late .
Hmmmm who might be this evil person ?
History of an interview by Sir Roy Andersson [ dailymail.co.uk ] is really a teaching one .
The article is not very exact possibly ( what can you expect from daily mail ) but - the guy apparently acquired some problems after his interview with BBC .
Donno about conspiracy but the whole story looks just too bad to be a result of incompetence only .
Just why they removed mortality and morbidity from definition ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>well I am not sure about politicians here - it seems to me that somebody was tweaking pandemic definitions of late.
Hmmmm who might be this evil person?
History of an interview by Sir Roy Andersson [dailymail.co.uk] is really a teaching one.
The article is not very exact possibly (what can you expect from daily mail) but - the guy apparently acquired some problems after his interview with BBC.
Donno about conspiracy but the whole story looks just too bad to be a result of incompetence only.
Just why they removed mortality and morbidity from definition??
?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185632</id>
	<title>That would be nice!</title>
	<author>wwphx</author>
	<datestamp>1258827300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>This year I was diagnosed as being immune-compromised after having had pneumonia four times from February to June.  They haven't shipped very much H1N1 vaccine to New Mexico, and it doesn't seem like any of it has made it to the southern part of the state where I live.  Fortunately people like me with immune disorders have been recategorized as being in the priority group when vaccine does become available.

If we're past the peak, then maybe people won't clamor as much for the vaccine and I'll have a better shot at getting inoculated as I must have the shot, can't have the nasal vaccine.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This year I was diagnosed as being immune-compromised after having had pneumonia four times from February to June .
They have n't shipped very much H1N1 vaccine to New Mexico , and it does n't seem like any of it has made it to the southern part of the state where I live .
Fortunately people like me with immune disorders have been recategorized as being in the priority group when vaccine does become available .
If we 're past the peak , then maybe people wo n't clamor as much for the vaccine and I 'll have a better shot at getting inoculated as I must have the shot , ca n't have the nasal vaccine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This year I was diagnosed as being immune-compromised after having had pneumonia four times from February to June.
They haven't shipped very much H1N1 vaccine to New Mexico, and it doesn't seem like any of it has made it to the southern part of the state where I live.
Fortunately people like me with immune disorders have been recategorized as being in the priority group when vaccine does become available.
If we're past the peak, then maybe people won't clamor as much for the vaccine and I'll have a better shot at getting inoculated as I must have the shot, can't have the nasal vaccine.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30190036</id>
	<title>Re:Who?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258814460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who's on First?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who 's on First ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who's on First?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30186490</id>
	<title>Re:Where does the money go?</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1258832880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The media circus around it is the only reason anything happened this year different than last year.</p><p>Considering the amount of FUD spread by the media, the numbers for flu cases and deaths this year isn't really higher than normal.  If everyone was as paranoid about the flu every year, we'd see pretty much the same thing.</p><p>Take a good look at the CDCs weekly states for this flu season, its really not that bad.  The difference is everyone saying 'OMG I GOT SWINE FLUZ I'M GONNA DIE STAY AWAY AND SAVE YOURSELF!@$!@\%!@#^!#@\%'</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The media circus around it is the only reason anything happened this year different than last year.Considering the amount of FUD spread by the media , the numbers for flu cases and deaths this year is n't really higher than normal .
If everyone was as paranoid about the flu every year , we 'd see pretty much the same thing.Take a good look at the CDCs weekly states for this flu season , its really not that bad .
The difference is everyone saying 'OMG I GOT SWINE FLUZ I 'M GON NA DIE STAY AWAY AND SAVE YOURSELF ! @ $ ! @ \ % !
@ # ^ ! # @ \ % '</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The media circus around it is the only reason anything happened this year different than last year.Considering the amount of FUD spread by the media, the numbers for flu cases and deaths this year isn't really higher than normal.
If everyone was as paranoid about the flu every year, we'd see pretty much the same thing.Take a good look at the CDCs weekly states for this flu season, its really not that bad.
The difference is everyone saying 'OMG I GOT SWINE FLUZ I'M GONNA DIE STAY AWAY AND SAVE YOURSELF!@$!@\%!
@#^!#@\%'</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30186270</id>
	<title>Re:BS</title>
	<author>zombie\_striptease</author>
	<datestamp>1258831500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Uh, that may not be the best metaphor for the point you want to make. Being in the eye of the hurricane usually does mean that you're about half-done with it, which is all the WHO is cautiously suggesting now.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Uh , that may not be the best metaphor for the point you want to make .
Being in the eye of the hurricane usually does mean that you 're about half-done with it , which is all the WHO is cautiously suggesting now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uh, that may not be the best metaphor for the point you want to make.
Being in the eye of the hurricane usually does mean that you're about half-done with it, which is all the WHO is cautiously suggesting now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30187770</id>
	<title>Re:Peak swine flu</title>
	<author>Frosty Piss</author>
	<datestamp>1258797660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Imagine the effects on the vaccine producers!</p></div><p>The government will have to bail them out with billions in aid. They geared up to produce all this vaccine, and now no one wants it. People will lose jobs, big business will fold... Bring on the corporate welfare.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Imagine the effects on the vaccine producers ! The government will have to bail them out with billions in aid .
They geared up to produce all this vaccine , and now no one wants it .
People will lose jobs , big business will fold... Bring on the corporate welfare .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Imagine the effects on the vaccine producers!The government will have to bail them out with billions in aid.
They geared up to produce all this vaccine, and now no one wants it.
People will lose jobs, big business will fold... Bring on the corporate welfare.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185688</id>
	<title>Re:What percentage died with and without vaccinati</title>
	<author>Macrat</author>
	<datestamp>1258827600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, the regular flu on average kills 30,000 per year in the US. The swine flu was projected to START at 40,000 and go as high at 100,000.</p><p>So far the swine flu has only killed 4,000.</p><p>And I bet there will be no coverage on how many die from the regular flu this season.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , the regular flu on average kills 30,000 per year in the US .
The swine flu was projected to START at 40,000 and go as high at 100,000.So far the swine flu has only killed 4,000.And I bet there will be no coverage on how many die from the regular flu this season .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, the regular flu on average kills 30,000 per year in the US.
The swine flu was projected to START at 40,000 and go as high at 100,000.So far the swine flu has only killed 4,000.And I bet there will be no coverage on how many die from the regular flu this season.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185884</id>
	<title>Baha Men</title>
	<author>dousette</author>
	<datestamp>1258828920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Did anyone else read the title as the latest hit from Baha Men?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did anyone else read the title as the latest hit from Baha Men ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did anyone else read the title as the latest hit from Baha Men?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30186620</id>
	<title>Re:What percentage died with and without vaccinati</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1258833480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The CDC has, somewhere buried on its site that I found a month or so back some states about the mortality rates, sorry I'm not going to bother to find you a link but if you look hard enough google will for you.</p><p>Summary:</p><p>This strain of H1N1 seasonal a. AKA the swine flu:<br>Mortality rate of \%0.05</p><p>The standard average over the last 50 years or so for the seasonal strains combined is \%0.16</p><p>So last year, 3 times more people would have died from the flu last year than this year.  Total deaths accounted to it will be higher, EVERYONE is reporting when they get the flu this year do to paranoia caused by media FUD.  Most of these people die from complications with other illness.  These people in past years wouldn't have been counted as flu deaths because the level of 'awareness' was far lower.  People just didnt' think to account it to the flu directly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The CDC has , somewhere buried on its site that I found a month or so back some states about the mortality rates , sorry I 'm not going to bother to find you a link but if you look hard enough google will for you.Summary : This strain of H1N1 seasonal a. AKA the swine flu : Mortality rate of \ % 0.05The standard average over the last 50 years or so for the seasonal strains combined is \ % 0.16So last year , 3 times more people would have died from the flu last year than this year .
Total deaths accounted to it will be higher , EVERYONE is reporting when they get the flu this year do to paranoia caused by media FUD .
Most of these people die from complications with other illness .
These people in past years would n't have been counted as flu deaths because the level of 'awareness ' was far lower .
People just didnt ' think to account it to the flu directly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The CDC has, somewhere buried on its site that I found a month or so back some states about the mortality rates, sorry I'm not going to bother to find you a link but if you look hard enough google will for you.Summary:This strain of H1N1 seasonal a. AKA the swine flu:Mortality rate of \%0.05The standard average over the last 50 years or so for the seasonal strains combined is \%0.16So last year, 3 times more people would have died from the flu last year than this year.
Total deaths accounted to it will be higher, EVERYONE is reporting when they get the flu this year do to paranoia caused by media FUD.
Most of these people die from complications with other illness.
These people in past years wouldn't have been counted as flu deaths because the level of 'awareness' was far lower.
People just didnt' think to account it to the flu directly.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30186196</id>
	<title>Re:Where does the money go?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258831020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Excellent post<br>I have also been following the progress of H1N1, and it's really all about bullshitting the public for profit<br>The virus is much milder that many flu strains commonly spread during winter months<br>It is expected the vaccine will cripple and cause more deaths than any bug possibly could</p><p>Best way to void winter illness: take 10,000 IU Vitamin D3 (Cholecalciferol) per day. Additionally I take a quality daily supplement of Acai berry antioxidant product. I haven't been sick in over a year.<br>No, I don't live on a desert island. I mingle with sickly, runny nosed people every day.<br>I just don't get sick due to natural immune boosters as stated above.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Excellent postI have also been following the progress of H1N1 , and it 's really all about bullshitting the public for profitThe virus is much milder that many flu strains commonly spread during winter monthsIt is expected the vaccine will cripple and cause more deaths than any bug possibly couldBest way to void winter illness : take 10,000 IU Vitamin D3 ( Cholecalciferol ) per day .
Additionally I take a quality daily supplement of Acai berry antioxidant product .
I have n't been sick in over a year.No , I do n't live on a desert island .
I mingle with sickly , runny nosed people every day.I just do n't get sick due to natural immune boosters as stated above .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Excellent postI have also been following the progress of H1N1, and it's really all about bullshitting the public for profitThe virus is much milder that many flu strains commonly spread during winter monthsIt is expected the vaccine will cripple and cause more deaths than any bug possibly couldBest way to void winter illness: take 10,000 IU Vitamin D3 (Cholecalciferol) per day.
Additionally I take a quality daily supplement of Acai berry antioxidant product.
I haven't been sick in over a year.No, I don't live on a desert island.
I mingle with sickly, runny nosed people every day.I just don't get sick due to natural immune boosters as stated above.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185852</id>
	<title>You know...</title>
	<author>JackPepper</author>
	<datestamp>1258828680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>oil just peaked recently as well. I think unemployment is next.</htmltext>
<tokenext>oil just peaked recently as well .
I think unemployment is next .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>oil just peaked recently as well.
I think unemployment is next.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185446</id>
	<title>Peak swine flu</title>
	<author>maxwell demon</author>
	<datestamp>1258826280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OK, peak oil is bad enough. But now also peak swine flu? Imagine the effects on the vaccine producers!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OK , peak oil is bad enough .
But now also peak swine flu ?
Imagine the effects on the vaccine producers !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OK, peak oil is bad enough.
But now also peak swine flu?
Imagine the effects on the vaccine producers!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185304</id>
	<title>Re:You mean...</title>
	<author>Pecisk</author>
	<datestamp>1258825440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I really hoped that it will solve all our problems for good. Now we will have to do something about ourselves. Damn.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I really hoped that it will solve all our problems for good .
Now we will have to do something about ourselves .
Damn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really hoped that it will solve all our problems for good.
Now we will have to do something about ourselves.
Damn.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185964</id>
	<title>Re:What percentage died with and without vaccinati</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258829400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My current statistics is that in Norway a little over 20 people have died - most with complicating diseases - while 2-300 die each year in traffic accidents. In other words, I find it completely and utterly blown out of any proportion and there's probably not enough deaths to make decent statistics, not unless you gather all of them worldwide. I'm not getting vaccinated, and honestly they could have skipped the whole damn thing. Yes, some more people would lose a week's worth of work but they'd handle the flu and recover naturally, making them stronger. If and only if there is a much deadlier strain would I consider it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My current statistics is that in Norway a little over 20 people have died - most with complicating diseases - while 2-300 die each year in traffic accidents .
In other words , I find it completely and utterly blown out of any proportion and there 's probably not enough deaths to make decent statistics , not unless you gather all of them worldwide .
I 'm not getting vaccinated , and honestly they could have skipped the whole damn thing .
Yes , some more people would lose a week 's worth of work but they 'd handle the flu and recover naturally , making them stronger .
If and only if there is a much deadlier strain would I consider it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My current statistics is that in Norway a little over 20 people have died - most with complicating diseases - while 2-300 die each year in traffic accidents.
In other words, I find it completely and utterly blown out of any proportion and there's probably not enough deaths to make decent statistics, not unless you gather all of them worldwide.
I'm not getting vaccinated, and honestly they could have skipped the whole damn thing.
Yes, some more people would lose a week's worth of work but they'd handle the flu and recover naturally, making them stronger.
If and only if there is a much deadlier strain would I consider it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30188234</id>
	<title>Tempest in a Teapot</title>
	<author>frank249</author>
	<datestamp>1258800780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In Canada Swine Flu/H1N1 has become the dominant flu strain circulating representing 99.2\% of all flu cases diagnosed.  This is good news as 5,000 Canadians died last year from the seasonal flu while this year only 250 have died from flu since April.  If 4,500 less people will die from flu this year, it makes you wonder what all the panic was over?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In Canada Swine Flu/H1N1 has become the dominant flu strain circulating representing 99.2 \ % of all flu cases diagnosed .
This is good news as 5,000 Canadians died last year from the seasonal flu while this year only 250 have died from flu since April .
If 4,500 less people will die from flu this year , it makes you wonder what all the panic was over ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Canada Swine Flu/H1N1 has become the dominant flu strain circulating representing 99.2\% of all flu cases diagnosed.
This is good news as 5,000 Canadians died last year from the seasonal flu while this year only 250 have died from flu since April.
If 4,500 less people will die from flu this year, it makes you wonder what all the panic was over?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185294</id>
	<title>Re:You mean...</title>
	<author>7213</author>
	<datestamp>1258825440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nope, not all gonna die. But a large chunk of us are gonna feel horrible for 2-3 days, and then harbor a slowly diminishing cough for several weeks.</p><p>At least watching the talking heads scream "OMFG where all gonna die!!!!!11elevin" was entertaining when I couldn't get outa bed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nope , not all gon na die .
But a large chunk of us are gon na feel horrible for 2-3 days , and then harbor a slowly diminishing cough for several weeks.At least watching the talking heads scream " OMFG where all gon na die ! ! ! !
! 11elevin " was entertaining when I could n't get outa bed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nope, not all gonna die.
But a large chunk of us are gonna feel horrible for 2-3 days, and then harbor a slowly diminishing cough for several weeks.At least watching the talking heads scream "OMFG where all gonna die!!!!
!11elevin" was entertaining when I couldn't get outa bed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185720</id>
	<title>Is there supposed to be only one peak ?</title>
	<author>Cochonou</author>
	<datestamp>1258827780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It might very well be a local peak (temporally speaking). For instance, see the shape of the flu progression in <a href="http://www.google.org/flutrends/intl/en\_us/fr/" title="google.org">France</a> [google.org], which was characterized by a peak in September. Now, it is rising again.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It might very well be a local peak ( temporally speaking ) .
For instance , see the shape of the flu progression in France [ google.org ] , which was characterized by a peak in September .
Now , it is rising again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It might very well be a local peak (temporally speaking).
For instance, see the shape of the flu progression in France [google.org], which was characterized by a peak in September.
Now, it is rising again.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30188546</id>
	<title>Re:Relevance</title>
	<author>Threni</author>
	<datestamp>1258803000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Also, it's still mutating and is now drug resistant:</p><p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8370859.stm" title="bbc.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8370859.stm</a> [bbc.co.uk]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Also , it 's still mutating and is now drug resistant : http : //news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8370859.stm [ bbc.co.uk ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also, it's still mutating and is now drug resistant:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8370859.stm [bbc.co.uk]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30187600</id>
	<title>Re:I think you are correct.</title>
	<author>Toonol</author>
	<datestamp>1258796640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>While I don't doubt that there are organizations that are thrilled to exaggerate the panic from Swine Flu, I doubt the vaccine makers are a significant driving force.  I think the pushers are the various government and national health agencies... trying to inflate their own importance, justify their existence, and increase their budgets.</htmltext>
<tokenext>While I do n't doubt that there are organizations that are thrilled to exaggerate the panic from Swine Flu , I doubt the vaccine makers are a significant driving force .
I think the pushers are the various government and national health agencies... trying to inflate their own importance , justify their existence , and increase their budgets .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I don't doubt that there are organizations that are thrilled to exaggerate the panic from Swine Flu, I doubt the vaccine makers are a significant driving force.
I think the pushers are the various government and national health agencies... trying to inflate their own importance, justify their existence, and increase their budgets.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30186754</id>
	<title>Re:If vaccine was available, people would get it</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1258834260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First off, its not actually 'worse' than any other seasonal flu.  Its actually less of a concern.  You've just been involved in a media FUD campaign for ratings.</p><p>Second, it is in no way 'interspecies'.  Pigs don't get 'infected with swine flu'.  The 'swine flu' name comes from the fact that part of the DNA sequence for the virus is shared with a strain that pigs get.  You can't get the strain that pigs get.  Pigs can't get the strain you get.</p><p>Third, ALMOST EVERY SINGLE VIRUS IS THE EXACT SAME WAY.  We're JUST NOW getting to the point where we can do DNA sequencing on the scale we need to detect this sort of stuff.  This isn't anything new in any way, the only thing new is that this is something the media could pick up on and whip people into a frenzy to keep them listening.</p><p>Finally.  Your daughter likely was already building up an immunity it it via seeing it in daycare.  She probably got it in tiny enough doses that her immune system could combat it and when she was fully exposed from it being in your home she was better prepared to deal with it.  Theres also the fact that she probably hasn't been sick enough times in her life yet to know to whine, bitch and moan about the flu like most adults do.  Children typically show signs of illness a lot different than adults for many reasons.  They of course have different immune systems.  They typically don't realize they are 'feeling bad' when its minor, and even when they do its much harder for them to communicate it or realize they should communicate it at that stage.</p><p>This isn't a new strain, everyone born before roughly 1956 has an immunity too it.  This strain is one that once you've fought it off, you won't get it again, you're body will deal with it for the rest of your life.  There was an 'outbreak' of it during the 50s, because of that, everyone that got it back then isn't effected now.  Of course there are a few people who didn't get it back then and are getting it now, but thats just the way it works.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First off , its not actually 'worse ' than any other seasonal flu .
Its actually less of a concern .
You 've just been involved in a media FUD campaign for ratings.Second , it is in no way 'interspecies' .
Pigs do n't get 'infected with swine flu' .
The 'swine flu ' name comes from the fact that part of the DNA sequence for the virus is shared with a strain that pigs get .
You ca n't get the strain that pigs get .
Pigs ca n't get the strain you get.Third , ALMOST EVERY SINGLE VIRUS IS THE EXACT SAME WAY .
We 're JUST NOW getting to the point where we can do DNA sequencing on the scale we need to detect this sort of stuff .
This is n't anything new in any way , the only thing new is that this is something the media could pick up on and whip people into a frenzy to keep them listening.Finally .
Your daughter likely was already building up an immunity it it via seeing it in daycare .
She probably got it in tiny enough doses that her immune system could combat it and when she was fully exposed from it being in your home she was better prepared to deal with it .
Theres also the fact that she probably has n't been sick enough times in her life yet to know to whine , bitch and moan about the flu like most adults do .
Children typically show signs of illness a lot different than adults for many reasons .
They of course have different immune systems .
They typically do n't realize they are 'feeling bad ' when its minor , and even when they do its much harder for them to communicate it or realize they should communicate it at that stage.This is n't a new strain , everyone born before roughly 1956 has an immunity too it .
This strain is one that once you 've fought it off , you wo n't get it again , you 're body will deal with it for the rest of your life .
There was an 'outbreak ' of it during the 50s , because of that , everyone that got it back then is n't effected now .
Of course there are a few people who did n't get it back then and are getting it now , but thats just the way it works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First off, its not actually 'worse' than any other seasonal flu.
Its actually less of a concern.
You've just been involved in a media FUD campaign for ratings.Second, it is in no way 'interspecies'.
Pigs don't get 'infected with swine flu'.
The 'swine flu' name comes from the fact that part of the DNA sequence for the virus is shared with a strain that pigs get.
You can't get the strain that pigs get.
Pigs can't get the strain you get.Third, ALMOST EVERY SINGLE VIRUS IS THE EXACT SAME WAY.
We're JUST NOW getting to the point where we can do DNA sequencing on the scale we need to detect this sort of stuff.
This isn't anything new in any way, the only thing new is that this is something the media could pick up on and whip people into a frenzy to keep them listening.Finally.
Your daughter likely was already building up an immunity it it via seeing it in daycare.
She probably got it in tiny enough doses that her immune system could combat it and when she was fully exposed from it being in your home she was better prepared to deal with it.
Theres also the fact that she probably hasn't been sick enough times in her life yet to know to whine, bitch and moan about the flu like most adults do.
Children typically show signs of illness a lot different than adults for many reasons.
They of course have different immune systems.
They typically don't realize they are 'feeling bad' when its minor, and even when they do its much harder for them to communicate it or realize they should communicate it at that stage.This isn't a new strain, everyone born before roughly 1956 has an immunity too it.
This strain is one that once you've fought it off, you won't get it again, you're body will deal with it for the rest of your life.
There was an 'outbreak' of it during the 50s, because of that, everyone that got it back then isn't effected now.
Of course there are a few people who didn't get it back then and are getting it now, but thats just the way it works.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185196</id>
	<title>BS</title>
	<author>dagamer34</author>
	<datestamp>1258824960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can't know something has peaked or bottomed out until way after the fact. It's like having a sign of relief when in the eye of a hurricane or ignoring the possibility of aftershocks from earthquakes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You ca n't know something has peaked or bottomed out until way after the fact .
It 's like having a sign of relief when in the eye of a hurricane or ignoring the possibility of aftershocks from earthquakes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can't know something has peaked or bottomed out until way after the fact.
It's like having a sign of relief when in the eye of a hurricane or ignoring the possibility of aftershocks from earthquakes.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185874</id>
	<title>Premature IMO. Thanksgiving will change that.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258828860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So it's taken 2 months to get over entropy caused by the return to school, just in time for the entropy caused by everyone traveling home for thanksgiving to take over.</p><p>I suspect that the infection rate is about to soar again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So it 's taken 2 months to get over entropy caused by the return to school , just in time for the entropy caused by everyone traveling home for thanksgiving to take over.I suspect that the infection rate is about to soar again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So it's taken 2 months to get over entropy caused by the return to school, just in time for the entropy caused by everyone traveling home for thanksgiving to take over.I suspect that the infection rate is about to soar again.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185172</id>
	<title>Where does the money go?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258824900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm somehow sceptic about the whole hype around the swine flu based on the fact that the U.S. Government alone paid nearly a billion $ for the vaccine <a href="http://sanfrancisco.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2009/07/13/daily26.html" title="bizjournals.com" rel="nofollow">http://sanfrancisco.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2009/07/13/daily26.html</a> [bizjournals.com], much more globally. I mean, the swine flu is even less hazardous than the normal flu, and with some good care for the immune system it does not cause much problems, so is it really necessary to spread a big panic and spend that amount of money? I mean, that's a lot of money. Really.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm somehow sceptic about the whole hype around the swine flu based on the fact that the U.S. Government alone paid nearly a billion $ for the vaccine http : //sanfrancisco.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2009/07/13/daily26.html [ bizjournals.com ] , much more globally .
I mean , the swine flu is even less hazardous than the normal flu , and with some good care for the immune system it does not cause much problems , so is it really necessary to spread a big panic and spend that amount of money ?
I mean , that 's a lot of money .
Really .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm somehow sceptic about the whole hype around the swine flu based on the fact that the U.S. Government alone paid nearly a billion $ for the vaccine http://sanfrancisco.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2009/07/13/daily26.html [bizjournals.com], much more globally.
I mean, the swine flu is even less hazardous than the normal flu, and with some good care for the immune system it does not cause much problems, so is it really necessary to spread a big panic and spend that amount of money?
I mean, that's a lot of money.
Really.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30186326</id>
	<title>Who?</title>
	<author>Kickasso</author>
	<datestamp>1258831860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The president of China, that's who.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The president of China , that 's who .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The president of China, that's who.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185018</id>
	<title>Who?</title>
	<author>Lord Lode</author>
	<datestamp>1258824000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Who says it? Well, it wasn't me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who says it ?
Well , it was n't me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who says it?
Well, it wasn't me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30187506</id>
	<title>Re:Relevance</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258796160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>new flu cases had dropped 27 percent in the week ending on November 13th from the week before, the first drop since school resumed in the fall.</p></div><p>It <i>is</i> later, and they analyzed the data.  It's in the very first sentence of the summary.  Is this the new slashdot meme, to have to tell people to RTFS?  What next, RTFH when people start commenting on the story without even reading the headline?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>new flu cases had dropped 27 percent in the week ending on November 13th from the week before , the first drop since school resumed in the fall.It is later , and they analyzed the data .
It 's in the very first sentence of the summary .
Is this the new slashdot meme , to have to tell people to RTFS ?
What next , RTFH when people start commenting on the story without even reading the headline ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>new flu cases had dropped 27 percent in the week ending on November 13th from the week before, the first drop since school resumed in the fall.It is later, and they analyzed the data.
It's in the very first sentence of the summary.
Is this the new slashdot meme, to have to tell people to RTFS?
What next, RTFH when people start commenting on the story without even reading the headline?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185154</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185628</id>
	<title>yea, right</title>
	<author>frovingslosh</author>
	<datestamp>1258827240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>So glad to hear it. Pay no attention to the mutated Tamiflu resistant versions that were reported in both Norway and North Carolina just yesterday.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So glad to hear it .
Pay no attention to the mutated Tamiflu resistant versions that were reported in both Norway and North Carolina just yesterday .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So glad to hear it.
Pay no attention to the mutated Tamiflu resistant versions that were reported in both Norway and North Carolina just yesterday.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185506</id>
	<title>Re:Where does the money go?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258826700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>the reason for concern is legitimate, albeit possibly overtcautipus. Two traits make this flu serious. One is the observation that a higher percentage of deaths are occuring in young people and two is that, being a strain with genes that have recently jumped from swine and possibly birds makes it less stable.</htmltext>
<tokenext>the reason for concern is legitimate , albeit possibly overtcautipus .
Two traits make this flu serious .
One is the observation that a higher percentage of deaths are occuring in young people and two is that , being a strain with genes that have recently jumped from swine and possibly birds makes it less stable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the reason for concern is legitimate, albeit possibly overtcautipus.
Two traits make this flu serious.
One is the observation that a higher percentage of deaths are occuring in young people and two is that, being a strain with genes that have recently jumped from swine and possibly birds makes it less stable.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30186474</id>
	<title>Ad Hoc Medicine</title>
	<author>DynaSoar</author>
	<datestamp>1258832760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We had a 1976 "pandemic" too. They called it off when 10 people got Guillian-Barre syndrome from the vaccinations. 25 have this time, and they haven't called it off yet. In neither case was morbidity or mortality of the 'swine flu' greater than that of common variants.</p><p>I've seen good evidence that someone innoculated against H1N1 only won't get it. I've seen none that shows they can't carry it. I've seen some that suggests those who get the "seasonal" vaccine only are more likely to get H1N1. There's enough "seasonal" vaccine for most everyone who wants it. H1N1 vaccine is going to run out before 30 million doses. Dispensing both until supply or demand dictates otherwise would therefore tend to perpetuate the H1N1 'pandemic'.</p><p>The physicians I've questioned agreed that the sole difference between "seasonal" and H1N1 is that the latter has no effective treatment. The sole effective treatment for "seasonal" is Tamiflu at US$90 per regimen. I hypothesize that if there were a $90 treatment regimen for H1N1, there wouldn't be a vaccine.</p><p>My friend got sick with some flu-like symptoms, but far more unlike flu. She went to her doctor and got tested for flu. It was negative. That was to be expected since she'd had the vaccine from his office. He prescribed Tamiflu anyway. $90 later she was sicker. So was I. A week and bottle of Keflex later our bronchitis was gone, and all it cost us in medications both helpful and not, office visits and lost income was $1500 plus half her allotted sick days for a year. The doctor's response when asked how he could justify treating something that wasn't there and charging for it was an ingratiating smile wrapped around a "Well, you're not sick anymore are you? OK then." My diagnosis and bottle of Keflex were both free from the VA, making the implication he did something right all the more galling.</p><p>Just a guess, but I'm thinking that the vaccine left her immunosuppresed while she developed the flu antibody load and made her susceptible to the bronchitis. I haven't seen anything from CDC on other morbidities subsequent to flu vaccines.</p><p>I also haven't fully wrapped my head around the 2006 patent for attenuated H1N1 apparently intended for preparing a vaccine for a pandemic (specified as such in the patent) when there was no sign of one occurring. Good guessing maybe. That doesn't address why the previous Big Scare, H5N1 (bird flu) produced no patent, vaccine, or pandemic.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We had a 1976 " pandemic " too .
They called it off when 10 people got Guillian-Barre syndrome from the vaccinations .
25 have this time , and they have n't called it off yet .
In neither case was morbidity or mortality of the 'swine flu ' greater than that of common variants.I 've seen good evidence that someone innoculated against H1N1 only wo n't get it .
I 've seen none that shows they ca n't carry it .
I 've seen some that suggests those who get the " seasonal " vaccine only are more likely to get H1N1 .
There 's enough " seasonal " vaccine for most everyone who wants it .
H1N1 vaccine is going to run out before 30 million doses .
Dispensing both until supply or demand dictates otherwise would therefore tend to perpetuate the H1N1 'pandemic'.The physicians I 've questioned agreed that the sole difference between " seasonal " and H1N1 is that the latter has no effective treatment .
The sole effective treatment for " seasonal " is Tamiflu at US $ 90 per regimen .
I hypothesize that if there were a $ 90 treatment regimen for H1N1 , there would n't be a vaccine.My friend got sick with some flu-like symptoms , but far more unlike flu .
She went to her doctor and got tested for flu .
It was negative .
That was to be expected since she 'd had the vaccine from his office .
He prescribed Tamiflu anyway .
$ 90 later she was sicker .
So was I. A week and bottle of Keflex later our bronchitis was gone , and all it cost us in medications both helpful and not , office visits and lost income was $ 1500 plus half her allotted sick days for a year .
The doctor 's response when asked how he could justify treating something that was n't there and charging for it was an ingratiating smile wrapped around a " Well , you 're not sick anymore are you ?
OK then .
" My diagnosis and bottle of Keflex were both free from the VA , making the implication he did something right all the more galling.Just a guess , but I 'm thinking that the vaccine left her immunosuppresed while she developed the flu antibody load and made her susceptible to the bronchitis .
I have n't seen anything from CDC on other morbidities subsequent to flu vaccines.I also have n't fully wrapped my head around the 2006 patent for attenuated H1N1 apparently intended for preparing a vaccine for a pandemic ( specified as such in the patent ) when there was no sign of one occurring .
Good guessing maybe .
That does n't address why the previous Big Scare , H5N1 ( bird flu ) produced no patent , vaccine , or pandemic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We had a 1976 "pandemic" too.
They called it off when 10 people got Guillian-Barre syndrome from the vaccinations.
25 have this time, and they haven't called it off yet.
In neither case was morbidity or mortality of the 'swine flu' greater than that of common variants.I've seen good evidence that someone innoculated against H1N1 only won't get it.
I've seen none that shows they can't carry it.
I've seen some that suggests those who get the "seasonal" vaccine only are more likely to get H1N1.
There's enough "seasonal" vaccine for most everyone who wants it.
H1N1 vaccine is going to run out before 30 million doses.
Dispensing both until supply or demand dictates otherwise would therefore tend to perpetuate the H1N1 'pandemic'.The physicians I've questioned agreed that the sole difference between "seasonal" and H1N1 is that the latter has no effective treatment.
The sole effective treatment for "seasonal" is Tamiflu at US$90 per regimen.
I hypothesize that if there were a $90 treatment regimen for H1N1, there wouldn't be a vaccine.My friend got sick with some flu-like symptoms, but far more unlike flu.
She went to her doctor and got tested for flu.
It was negative.
That was to be expected since she'd had the vaccine from his office.
He prescribed Tamiflu anyway.
$90 later she was sicker.
So was I. A week and bottle of Keflex later our bronchitis was gone, and all it cost us in medications both helpful and not, office visits and lost income was $1500 plus half her allotted sick days for a year.
The doctor's response when asked how he could justify treating something that wasn't there and charging for it was an ingratiating smile wrapped around a "Well, you're not sick anymore are you?
OK then.
" My diagnosis and bottle of Keflex were both free from the VA, making the implication he did something right all the more galling.Just a guess, but I'm thinking that the vaccine left her immunosuppresed while she developed the flu antibody load and made her susceptible to the bronchitis.
I haven't seen anything from CDC on other morbidities subsequent to flu vaccines.I also haven't fully wrapped my head around the 2006 patent for attenuated H1N1 apparently intended for preparing a vaccine for a pandemic (specified as such in the patent) when there was no sign of one occurring.
Good guessing maybe.
That doesn't address why the previous Big Scare, H5N1 (bird flu) produced no patent, vaccine, or pandemic.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30186564</id>
	<title>Re:BS</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1258833180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>True, but we're can pretty accurately say it.  See the interesting thing about 'the swine flu' is that if you account for the media FUD skewing the numbers then it really ISN'T THAT DIFFERENT THAN EVERY OTHER YEAR.</p><p>Yes there are more reports this year, because 90\% of the public who would have just 'had the flu' and kept going like they have every other year for the past several thousand, this year they stay home.  They went to the doctor.  They told their friends.  They made others stay away from them and stayed home.</p><p>If you treat this like every other year, and account for the difference in numbers caused by media FUD, then they can make some pretty accurate predictions.  The most important factor is that this particular strain of the flu is a 'get it once and don't get it ever again' kind of strain.  In most seasons you will get infected more than once.  You won't with this strain, which is why people born in the 50s or earlier have nothing to worry about.  They've already had it and as STILL immune to it.</p><p>When you look at it that way, and take into account that by this point pretty much EVERYONE has got it, then its a safe bet that we've hit the peak, unless it suddenly mutates which would make it fall well outside the normal.  Its possible but unlikely.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>True , but we 're can pretty accurately say it .
See the interesting thing about 'the swine flu ' is that if you account for the media FUD skewing the numbers then it really IS N'T THAT DIFFERENT THAN EVERY OTHER YEAR.Yes there are more reports this year , because 90 \ % of the public who would have just 'had the flu ' and kept going like they have every other year for the past several thousand , this year they stay home .
They went to the doctor .
They told their friends .
They made others stay away from them and stayed home.If you treat this like every other year , and account for the difference in numbers caused by media FUD , then they can make some pretty accurate predictions .
The most important factor is that this particular strain of the flu is a 'get it once and do n't get it ever again ' kind of strain .
In most seasons you will get infected more than once .
You wo n't with this strain , which is why people born in the 50s or earlier have nothing to worry about .
They 've already had it and as STILL immune to it.When you look at it that way , and take into account that by this point pretty much EVERYONE has got it , then its a safe bet that we 've hit the peak , unless it suddenly mutates which would make it fall well outside the normal .
Its possible but unlikely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>True, but we're can pretty accurately say it.
See the interesting thing about 'the swine flu' is that if you account for the media FUD skewing the numbers then it really ISN'T THAT DIFFERENT THAN EVERY OTHER YEAR.Yes there are more reports this year, because 90\% of the public who would have just 'had the flu' and kept going like they have every other year for the past several thousand, this year they stay home.
They went to the doctor.
They told their friends.
They made others stay away from them and stayed home.If you treat this like every other year, and account for the difference in numbers caused by media FUD, then they can make some pretty accurate predictions.
The most important factor is that this particular strain of the flu is a 'get it once and don't get it ever again' kind of strain.
In most seasons you will get infected more than once.
You won't with this strain, which is why people born in the 50s or earlier have nothing to worry about.
They've already had it and as STILL immune to it.When you look at it that way, and take into account that by this point pretty much EVERYONE has got it, then its a safe bet that we've hit the peak, unless it suddenly mutates which would make it fall well outside the normal.
Its possible but unlikely.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30186762</id>
	<title>Re:Peak swine flu</title>
	<author>Urkki</author>
	<datestamp>1258834380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>OK, peak oil is bad enough. But now also peak swine flu? Imagine the effects on the vaccine producers!</p></div><p>Don't worry, the viruses will come back. They always come back... They're patient, just biding their time.</p><p>Or, if they get bored waiting, they just release the sharks with lasers to shoot everybody who's immune. <i>So don't get the vaccine!</i> You've been warned now!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>OK , peak oil is bad enough .
But now also peak swine flu ?
Imagine the effects on the vaccine producers ! Do n't worry , the viruses will come back .
They always come back... They 're patient , just biding their time.Or , if they get bored waiting , they just release the sharks with lasers to shoot everybody who 's immune .
So do n't get the vaccine !
You 've been warned now !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OK, peak oil is bad enough.
But now also peak swine flu?
Imagine the effects on the vaccine producers!Don't worry, the viruses will come back.
They always come back... They're patient, just biding their time.Or, if they get bored waiting, they just release the sharks with lasers to shoot everybody who's immune.
So don't get the vaccine!
You've been warned now!
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30187168</id>
	<title>Re:Who?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258837020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since Who is on first, I'm pretty sure he had nothing to do with this.<br>Maybe it was "I don't know" but I believe he's on third.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since Who is on first , I 'm pretty sure he had nothing to do with this.Maybe it was " I do n't know " but I believe he 's on third .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since Who is on first, I'm pretty sure he had nothing to do with this.Maybe it was "I don't know" but I believe he's on third.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185822</id>
	<title>Re:"Pandemics" are the new "terrorists".</title>
	<author>mini me</author>
	<datestamp>1258828500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am certain that the next one will be how the internet is enabling countries like China and India to take jobs away from the USA. People, afraid for their livelihood, will pressure the government into placing heavy restrictions on internet content and distribution.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am certain that the next one will be how the internet is enabling countries like China and India to take jobs away from the USA .
People , afraid for their livelihood , will pressure the government into placing heavy restrictions on internet content and distribution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am certain that the next one will be how the internet is enabling countries like China and India to take jobs away from the USA.
People, afraid for their livelihood, will pressure the government into placing heavy restrictions on internet content and distribution.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30187258</id>
	<title>Re:yea, right</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258794480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In the world of viruses, Tamiflu is considered as damage to be circumvented, just like the copyright protection of a piece of information in the community of people is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the world of viruses , Tamiflu is considered as damage to be circumvented , just like the copyright protection of a piece of information in the community of people is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the world of viruses, Tamiflu is considered as damage to be circumvented, just like the copyright protection of a piece of information in the community of people is.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30189270</id>
	<title>Re:The WHO is horrible.</title>
	<author>gad\_zuki!</author>
	<datestamp>1258808340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes but they also gave us Tommy and My Generation so its a wash.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes but they also gave us Tommy and My Generation so its a wash .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes but they also gave us Tommy and My Generation so its a wash.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30190744</id>
	<title>Re:Who?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258822080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What is another organization.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What is another organization .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is another organization.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185476</id>
	<title>Re:Who?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258826460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You should have gone with "First base!".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You should have gone with " First base !
" .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You should have gone with "First base!
".</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30192288</id>
	<title>Re:That would be nice!</title>
	<author>TheVelvetFlamebait</author>
	<datestamp>1258890240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>When you sympathize with stupidity, you start thinking like an idiot.</p></div></blockquote><p>When you stop sympathising with stupidity, you start thinking as an idiot.</p><p>(My sympathies on the diagnosis, BTW)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>When you sympathize with stupidity , you start thinking like an idiot.When you stop sympathising with stupidity , you start thinking as an idiot .
( My sympathies on the diagnosis , BTW )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When you sympathize with stupidity, you start thinking like an idiot.When you stop sympathising with stupidity, you start thinking as an idiot.
(My sympathies on the diagnosis, BTW)
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185880</id>
	<title>Re:BS</title>
	<author>mini me</author>
	<datestamp>1258828920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is more like saying a hurricane <i>might</i> be over while in the eye of the hurricane, where past hurricanes have had a history of dissipating when the eye reached this geographical location. It might not play out the same this time, but there is a pretty good chance that it will.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is more like saying a hurricane might be over while in the eye of the hurricane , where past hurricanes have had a history of dissipating when the eye reached this geographical location .
It might not play out the same this time , but there is a pretty good chance that it will .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is more like saying a hurricane might be over while in the eye of the hurricane, where past hurricanes have had a history of dissipating when the eye reached this geographical location.
It might not play out the same this time, but there is a pretty good chance that it will.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30186520</id>
	<title>The Doctor!</title>
	<author>Snaller</author>
	<datestamp>1258832940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Doctor Who of course.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Doctor Who of course .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doctor Who of course.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185148</id>
	<title>How long before this is a pre existing condition?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258824780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How long before this is a pre existing condition?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How long before this is a pre existing condition ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How long before this is a pre existing condition?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185184</id>
	<title>You mean...</title>
	<author>ChinggisK</author>
	<datestamp>1258824960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...we're *not* all gonna die?  Shocking, I tell you, shocking.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...we 're * not * all gon na die ?
Shocking , I tell you , shocking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...we're *not* all gonna die?
Shocking, I tell you, shocking.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30186324</id>
	<title>Re:Who?</title>
	<author>cupantae</author>
	<datestamp>1258831860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>-What's the name of the organisation that said it?!<br>-No, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHAT\_(AM)" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">WHAT</a> [wikipedia.org] just mentioned it between songs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>-What 's the name of the organisation that said it ?
! -No , WHAT [ wikipedia.org ] just mentioned it between songs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>-What's the name of the organisation that said it?
!-No, WHAT [wikipedia.org] just mentioned it between songs.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185902</id>
	<title>Re:BS</title>
	<author>sjames</author>
	<datestamp>1258828980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can't be CERTAIN until after the fact, that's why the use of words and phrases like "hopeful", "may have", and even "I wish I knew".</p><p>For example, if you have observed both the leading and trailing walls of a hurricane pass you have reason to hope it's over. It COULD come back around or trigger a secondary storm, so you can't be sure but you have ample reason for hope (just don't bet your life on it).</p><p>At the same time it's intresting to see media sources desperately clinging to the "OMG! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!" line in spite of strong evidence to the contrary. Anyone remember a year ago when the bird flu was going to kill us all? Where'd that go? IIRC, before that it was West Nile. That one kinda fizzled because there was no good vaccine to urge everyone to panic over.</p><p>I note that nobody's reminding people that a great way to avoid exposure to either flu is to avoid crowded shopping malls and "doorbuster" sales.</p><p>I suppose next year, after the stats are all in the panic will be the seasonal flu which is MORE DEADLY THAN SWINE FLU!!!!! Only they'll refer to it as H?N? so it sounds more mysterious.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You ca n't be CERTAIN until after the fact , that 's why the use of words and phrases like " hopeful " , " may have " , and even " I wish I knew " .For example , if you have observed both the leading and trailing walls of a hurricane pass you have reason to hope it 's over .
It COULD come back around or trigger a secondary storm , so you ca n't be sure but you have ample reason for hope ( just do n't bet your life on it ) .At the same time it 's intresting to see media sources desperately clinging to the " OMG !
WE 'RE ALL GON NA DIE ! ! ! !
" line in spite of strong evidence to the contrary .
Anyone remember a year ago when the bird flu was going to kill us all ?
Where 'd that go ?
IIRC , before that it was West Nile .
That one kinda fizzled because there was no good vaccine to urge everyone to panic over.I note that nobody 's reminding people that a great way to avoid exposure to either flu is to avoid crowded shopping malls and " doorbuster " sales.I suppose next year , after the stats are all in the panic will be the seasonal flu which is MORE DEADLY THAN SWINE FLU ! ! ! ! !
Only they 'll refer to it as H ? N ?
so it sounds more mysterious .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can't be CERTAIN until after the fact, that's why the use of words and phrases like "hopeful", "may have", and even "I wish I knew".For example, if you have observed both the leading and trailing walls of a hurricane pass you have reason to hope it's over.
It COULD come back around or trigger a secondary storm, so you can't be sure but you have ample reason for hope (just don't bet your life on it).At the same time it's intresting to see media sources desperately clinging to the "OMG!
WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!
" line in spite of strong evidence to the contrary.
Anyone remember a year ago when the bird flu was going to kill us all?
Where'd that go?
IIRC, before that it was West Nile.
That one kinda fizzled because there was no good vaccine to urge everyone to panic over.I note that nobody's reminding people that a great way to avoid exposure to either flu is to avoid crowded shopping malls and "doorbuster" sales.I suppose next year, after the stats are all in the panic will be the seasonal flu which is MORE DEADLY THAN SWINE FLU!!!!!
Only they'll refer to it as H?N?
so it sounds more mysterious.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30192278</id>
	<title>Re:The WHO is horrible.</title>
	<author>TheVelvetFlamebait</author>
	<datestamp>1258890060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>These "articles" are nothing but baseless slander! These reporters can't even stand behind their lies enough to leave the question marks out of their titles!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>These " articles " are nothing but baseless slander !
These reporters ca n't even stand behind their lies enough to leave the question marks out of their titles !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These "articles" are nothing but baseless slander!
These reporters can't even stand behind their lies enough to leave the question marks out of their titles!</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185674</id>
	<title>Re:Who?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258827540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps it was <a href="http://www.doctor-who-toys.com/images-files/tardisdoctor.jpg" title="doctor-who-toys.com">a doctor</a> [doctor-who-toys.com]?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps it was a doctor [ doctor-who-toys.com ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps it was a doctor [doctor-who-toys.com]?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185390</id>
	<title>What percentage died with and without vaccination?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258825980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We are still struggling to find the real effects of vaccination in The Netherlands. Many people think they shouldn't bother.</p><p>So are there any statistics about fatality rate of swine flu versus 'regular' flu and also vaccinated vs. non-vaccinated?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We are still struggling to find the real effects of vaccination in The Netherlands .
Many people think they should n't bother.So are there any statistics about fatality rate of swine flu versus 'regular ' flu and also vaccinated vs. non-vaccinated ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We are still struggling to find the real effects of vaccination in The Netherlands.
Many people think they shouldn't bother.So are there any statistics about fatality rate of swine flu versus 'regular' flu and also vaccinated vs. non-vaccinated?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185796</id>
	<title>Vaccine, what vaccine</title>
	<author>beernutmark</author>
	<datestamp>1258828260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh no, we are going to be discouraged from getting the vaccine that it looks like there is no hope of many of us getting anyway?!?!

It took weeks for me to finally get my kids vaccinated and so far, in SLC,Ut anyway, there is no sign that I will be getting the vaccine for weeks or more anyway.  It's going to be tough getting my kids their booster also.

This has really been a disaster in distribution.

Thank goodness this strain isn't as deadly as the 1918 one.  Hopefully the CDC is learning something from this.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh no , we are going to be discouraged from getting the vaccine that it looks like there is no hope of many of us getting anyway ? ! ? !
It took weeks for me to finally get my kids vaccinated and so far , in SLC,Ut anyway , there is no sign that I will be getting the vaccine for weeks or more anyway .
It 's going to be tough getting my kids their booster also .
This has really been a disaster in distribution .
Thank goodness this strain is n't as deadly as the 1918 one .
Hopefully the CDC is learning something from this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh no, we are going to be discouraged from getting the vaccine that it looks like there is no hope of many of us getting anyway?!?!
It took weeks for me to finally get my kids vaccinated and so far, in SLC,Ut anyway, there is no sign that I will be getting the vaccine for weeks or more anyway.
It's going to be tough getting my kids their booster also.
This has really been a disaster in distribution.
Thank goodness this strain isn't as deadly as the 1918 one.
Hopefully the CDC is learning something from this.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185626</id>
	<title>Re:What percentage died with and without vaccinati</title>
	<author>fusellovirus</author>
	<datestamp>1258827240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm not sure about the Netherlands but the US uses the <a href="http://vaers.hhs.gov/data/index" title="hhs.gov" rel="nofollow"> vaccine adverse event reporting system</a> [hhs.gov] to track all vaccine  associated illness and its public ally available....the side effects seem to be about the same as most seasonal flu shots.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not sure about the Netherlands but the US uses the vaccine adverse event reporting system [ hhs.gov ] to track all vaccine associated illness and its public ally available....the side effects seem to be about the same as most seasonal flu shots .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not sure about the Netherlands but the US uses the  vaccine adverse event reporting system [hhs.gov] to track all vaccine  associated illness and its public ally available....the side effects seem to be about the same as most seasonal flu shots.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30187718</id>
	<title>Re:BS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258797240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Did you miss the part in the first sentence of TFS where it said <i>there were 'early signs of a peak'</i>?  Neither the headline nor summary (and probably not the article either, who knows) make bold claims that this IS the peak, or that we should all breathe a sigh of relief.  The summary even specifies that a deadlier peak is likely to come in mid-winter.</p><p>This is all right there in the summary!  Please quit your pathetic skeptical farce of karma whoring.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did you miss the part in the first sentence of TFS where it said there were 'early signs of a peak ' ?
Neither the headline nor summary ( and probably not the article either , who knows ) make bold claims that this IS the peak , or that we should all breathe a sigh of relief .
The summary even specifies that a deadlier peak is likely to come in mid-winter.This is all right there in the summary !
Please quit your pathetic skeptical farce of karma whoring .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did you miss the part in the first sentence of TFS where it said there were 'early signs of a peak'?
Neither the headline nor summary (and probably not the article either, who knows) make bold claims that this IS the peak, or that we should all breathe a sigh of relief.
The summary even specifies that a deadlier peak is likely to come in mid-winter.This is all right there in the summary!
Please quit your pathetic skeptical farce of karma whoring.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185358</id>
	<title>Yes, it is less now ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258825740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here in Canada, my doctor said yesterday that he is seeing a drop in people coming in with flu symptoms. It used to be more in the past few weeks.</p><p>Also, <a href="http://www.google.org/flutrends/ca/" title="google.org">Google Flu Trends</a> [google.org] shows a marked drop. In the <a href="http://www.google.org/flutrends/us/" title="google.org">USA</a> [google.org], there is a drop too.</p><p>I have also observed less absence at my little kid's school as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here in Canada , my doctor said yesterday that he is seeing a drop in people coming in with flu symptoms .
It used to be more in the past few weeks.Also , Google Flu Trends [ google.org ] shows a marked drop .
In the USA [ google.org ] , there is a drop too.I have also observed less absence at my little kid 's school as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here in Canada, my doctor said yesterday that he is seeing a drop in people coming in with flu symptoms.
It used to be more in the past few weeks.Also, Google Flu Trends [google.org] shows a marked drop.
In the USA [google.org], there is a drop too.I have also observed less absence at my little kid's school as well.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30188276</id>
	<title>Re:You mean...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258801020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We are all going to die, just not from swine flu.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We are all going to die , just not from swine flu .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We are all going to die, just not from swine flu.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30187152</id>
	<title>Re:Where does the money go?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258836900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Swine Flu) A virus that was super-contagious and infected nearly everyone, and got them sick for 2 weeks, but barely anyone would die from would be far more economically damaging than a virus that was not very contagious, but killed all those it infected. (HIV)</p><p>This is because our economy was never meant to handle a mass exodus of workers.</p></div><p> And then came the internet. It is time to enable that working distance working..</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Swine Flu ) A virus that was super-contagious and infected nearly everyone , and got them sick for 2 weeks , but barely anyone would die from would be far more economically damaging than a virus that was not very contagious , but killed all those it infected .
( HIV ) This is because our economy was never meant to handle a mass exodus of workers .
And then came the internet .
It is time to enable that working distance working. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Swine Flu) A virus that was super-contagious and infected nearly everyone, and got them sick for 2 weeks, but barely anyone would die from would be far more economically damaging than a virus that was not very contagious, but killed all those it infected.
(HIV)This is because our economy was never meant to handle a mass exodus of workers.
And then came the internet.
It is time to enable that working distance working..
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185968</id>
	<title>If vaccine was available, people would get it</title>
	<author>iamacat</author>
	<datestamp>1258829400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Our whole family just had H1N1 and yet none of us could get a vaccine beforehand, not even our 2 year old daughter. If vaccine was available, all of us would have gotten it. To top the confusion, the doctor is still asking us to get the shot when it becomes available. Give me a frigging break.</p><p>Now what amazes me is that our daughter coughed for 2 days and then she was fine, while we are still sick after 3 weeks. Daycares must create some kind of mutant immune systems that put interspecies viruses to shame.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Our whole family just had H1N1 and yet none of us could get a vaccine beforehand , not even our 2 year old daughter .
If vaccine was available , all of us would have gotten it .
To top the confusion , the doctor is still asking us to get the shot when it becomes available .
Give me a frigging break.Now what amazes me is that our daughter coughed for 2 days and then she was fine , while we are still sick after 3 weeks .
Daycares must create some kind of mutant immune systems that put interspecies viruses to shame .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Our whole family just had H1N1 and yet none of us could get a vaccine beforehand, not even our 2 year old daughter.
If vaccine was available, all of us would have gotten it.
To top the confusion, the doctor is still asking us to get the shot when it becomes available.
Give me a frigging break.Now what amazes me is that our daughter coughed for 2 days and then she was fine, while we are still sick after 3 weeks.
Daycares must create some kind of mutant immune systems that put interspecies viruses to shame.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30186066</id>
	<title>Re:Who?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258830060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What?  I don't know.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What ?
I do n't know .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What?
I don't know.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185406</id>
	<title>Google Flu Trends</title>
	<author>hweimer</author>
	<datestamp>1258826040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Interestingly, <a href="http://www.google.org/flutrends/us/" title="google.org">Google Flu Trends</a> [google.org] shows similar signs, although there the peak already occured in October.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Interestingly , Google Flu Trends [ google.org ] shows similar signs , although there the peak already occured in October .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interestingly, Google Flu Trends [google.org] shows similar signs, although there the peak already occured in October.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185600</id>
	<title>I think you are correct.</title>
	<author>Futurepower(R)</author>
	<datestamp>1258827120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>CBS News, the New York Times, and other publications suggest that
your skepticism is correct: <a href="http://futurepower.net/flu/Flu\_Be\_skeptical\_about\_flu\_reports.html" title="futurepower.net">
Be skeptical about flu reports.</a> [futurepower.net] There appears to be
manipulation of government warnings to increase profit for vaccine makers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>CBS News , the New York Times , and other publications suggest that your skepticism is correct : Be skeptical about flu reports .
[ futurepower.net ] There appears to be manipulation of government warnings to increase profit for vaccine makers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CBS News, the New York Times, and other publications suggest that
your skepticism is correct: 
Be skeptical about flu reports.
[futurepower.net] There appears to be
manipulation of government warnings to increase profit for vaccine makers.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185932</id>
	<title>Go back to bed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258829160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For fuck's sake, people, swine flu is not a problem.</p><p>It is the flu.  It is annoying.  It is contagious.  It might kill you if you already have pneumonia, and it might kill you if you are really young.  This is normal behavior for the flu.  It came from pigs, and this does not make a single god damned bit of difference.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For fuck 's sake , people , swine flu is not a problem.It is the flu .
It is annoying .
It is contagious .
It might kill you if you already have pneumonia , and it might kill you if you are really young .
This is normal behavior for the flu .
It came from pigs , and this does not make a single god damned bit of difference .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For fuck's sake, people, swine flu is not a problem.It is the flu.
It is annoying.
It is contagious.
It might kill you if you already have pneumonia, and it might kill you if you are really young.
This is normal behavior for the flu.
It came from pigs, and this does not make a single god damned bit of difference.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30186144</id>
	<title>Re:What percentage died with and without vaccinati</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258830660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can tell you one effect: I had the regular flu shot for eight years here in The Netherlands with no incidents including this year. Then I had the first shot against the new flu on Monday evening and I've had high fever for two days already (Friday and Saturday). Now I'm afraid I might pass it to my family so indeed I feel I should not have bothered.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can tell you one effect : I had the regular flu shot for eight years here in The Netherlands with no incidents including this year .
Then I had the first shot against the new flu on Monday evening and I 've had high fever for two days already ( Friday and Saturday ) .
Now I 'm afraid I might pass it to my family so indeed I feel I should not have bothered .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can tell you one effect: I had the regular flu shot for eight years here in The Netherlands with no incidents including this year.
Then I had the first shot against the new flu on Monday evening and I've had high fever for two days already (Friday and Saturday).
Now I'm afraid I might pass it to my family so indeed I feel I should not have bothered.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185114</id>
	<title>"Pandemics" are the new "terrorists".</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258824600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apparently the "terrorist" threat is getting old and worn out, so now the media and politicians have to trumpet the "pandemic" threat.</p><p>I wonder what next week's threat will be. Maybe it'll come back to "communists" again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently the " terrorist " threat is getting old and worn out , so now the media and politicians have to trumpet the " pandemic " threat.I wonder what next week 's threat will be .
Maybe it 'll come back to " communists " again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently the "terrorist" threat is getting old and worn out, so now the media and politicians have to trumpet the "pandemic" threat.I wonder what next week's threat will be.
Maybe it'll come back to "communists" again.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185376</id>
	<title>News for nerds ... stuff that matters</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258825860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not sure why this story is on slashdot.  We never leave our parent's basements, after all.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not sure why this story is on slashdot .
We never leave our parent 's basements , after all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not sure why this story is on slashdot.
We never leave our parent's basements, after all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185982</id>
	<title>Yeah right</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258829460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>given that I have spent nearly 6 weeks in Hospital this year of which the majoriy was for Swine Flu I can't really see your point.<br>I've got Leukaemia. This means my immune system is shot to hell. At then of may, I basically didn't have one and kept infecting myself. Then in Sept, I got Swine Flu which developed into Pneumonia. I can tell you it is not very nice.</p><p>I got the Flu because someone sneezed on me while waiting at a supermarket queue. Thats all it takes and<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<br>Normal people with normal immune systems can shake it off pretty easily but there are huge parts of the polulation that don't have normal immune systems.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>given that I have spent nearly 6 weeks in Hospital this year of which the majoriy was for Swine Flu I ca n't really see your point.I 've got Leukaemia .
This means my immune system is shot to hell .
At then of may , I basically did n't have one and kept infecting myself .
Then in Sept , I got Swine Flu which developed into Pneumonia .
I can tell you it is not very nice.I got the Flu because someone sneezed on me while waiting at a supermarket queue .
Thats all it takes and ...Normal people with normal immune systems can shake it off pretty easily but there are huge parts of the polulation that do n't have normal immune systems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>given that I have spent nearly 6 weeks in Hospital this year of which the majoriy was for Swine Flu I can't really see your point.I've got Leukaemia.
This means my immune system is shot to hell.
At then of may, I basically didn't have one and kept infecting myself.
Then in Sept, I got Swine Flu which developed into Pneumonia.
I can tell you it is not very nice.I got the Flu because someone sneezed on me while waiting at a supermarket queue.
Thats all it takes and ...Normal people with normal immune systems can shake it off pretty easily but there are huge parts of the polulation that don't have normal immune systems.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30189342</id>
	<title>Re:If vaccine was available, people would get it</title>
	<author>bill\_mcgonigle</author>
	<datestamp>1258808940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Our whole family just had H1N1 and yet none of us could get a vaccine beforehand, not even our 2 year old daughter. If vaccine was available, all of us would have gotten it. To top the confusion, the doctor is still asking us to get the shot when it becomes available. Give me a frigging break.</i></p><p>Same here, and I'm pissed.  I got the seasonal vaccine in early October and would have taken both had they been available.</p><p>This is the only aspect of healthcare that the Federal government has complete control over.  This is how well it works.</p><p><i>Now what amazes me is that our daughter coughed for 2 days and then she was fine, while we are still sick after 3 weeks. Daycares must create some kind of mutant immune systems that put interspecies viruses to shame.</i></p><p>Yeah, our kids recovered quickly as well, but that's not surprising.  In the Canadian study the highest mortality peaks were:</p><p>32 years old<br>female<br>first-nations heritage</p><p>The people they're prioritizing for vaccine aren't the most heavily affected, they're the ones people show the most emotional sympathy for.  It's bad medicine, plain and simple (or call it politics if that's comforting).</p><p>As for why those are the worst victims, I don't really know, but there are several diseases where a strong immune response will do more damage than the vaccine.  This could be one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Our whole family just had H1N1 and yet none of us could get a vaccine beforehand , not even our 2 year old daughter .
If vaccine was available , all of us would have gotten it .
To top the confusion , the doctor is still asking us to get the shot when it becomes available .
Give me a frigging break.Same here , and I 'm pissed .
I got the seasonal vaccine in early October and would have taken both had they been available.This is the only aspect of healthcare that the Federal government has complete control over .
This is how well it works.Now what amazes me is that our daughter coughed for 2 days and then she was fine , while we are still sick after 3 weeks .
Daycares must create some kind of mutant immune systems that put interspecies viruses to shame.Yeah , our kids recovered quickly as well , but that 's not surprising .
In the Canadian study the highest mortality peaks were : 32 years oldfemalefirst-nations heritageThe people they 're prioritizing for vaccine are n't the most heavily affected , they 're the ones people show the most emotional sympathy for .
It 's bad medicine , plain and simple ( or call it politics if that 's comforting ) .As for why those are the worst victims , I do n't really know , but there are several diseases where a strong immune response will do more damage than the vaccine .
This could be one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Our whole family just had H1N1 and yet none of us could get a vaccine beforehand, not even our 2 year old daughter.
If vaccine was available, all of us would have gotten it.
To top the confusion, the doctor is still asking us to get the shot when it becomes available.
Give me a frigging break.Same here, and I'm pissed.
I got the seasonal vaccine in early October and would have taken both had they been available.This is the only aspect of healthcare that the Federal government has complete control over.
This is how well it works.Now what amazes me is that our daughter coughed for 2 days and then she was fine, while we are still sick after 3 weeks.
Daycares must create some kind of mutant immune systems that put interspecies viruses to shame.Yeah, our kids recovered quickly as well, but that's not surprising.
In the Canadian study the highest mortality peaks were:32 years oldfemalefirst-nations heritageThe people they're prioritizing for vaccine aren't the most heavily affected, they're the ones people show the most emotional sympathy for.
It's bad medicine, plain and simple (or call it politics if that's comforting).As for why those are the worst victims, I don't really know, but there are several diseases where a strong immune response will do more damage than the vaccine.
This could be one.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30186820</id>
	<title>Re:Where does the money go?</title>
	<author>thomasw\_lrd</author>
	<datestamp>1258834740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not disagreeing with you, but I never heard of such data from any news source.  Do you have a link for it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not disagreeing with you , but I never heard of such data from any news source .
Do you have a link for it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not disagreeing with you, but I never heard of such data from any news source.
Do you have a link for it?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185066</id>
	<title>Who are you?</title>
	<author>XiX36</author>
	<datestamp>1258824300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>WHO. Who? WHO. Who?  I really wanna know!</htmltext>
<tokenext>WHO .
Who ? WHO .
Who ? I really wan na know !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WHO.
Who? WHO.
Who?  I really wanna know!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185888</id>
	<title>Re:BS</title>
	<author>khallow</author>
	<datestamp>1258828920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You can't know something has peaked or bottomed out until way after the fact. It's like having a sign of relief when in the eye of a hurricane or ignoring the possibility of aftershocks from earthquakes.</p></div><p>They have pretty good infection models for the flu. So yes, they can have a good idea of when the flu peaks.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You ca n't know something has peaked or bottomed out until way after the fact .
It 's like having a sign of relief when in the eye of a hurricane or ignoring the possibility of aftershocks from earthquakes.They have pretty good infection models for the flu .
So yes , they can have a good idea of when the flu peaks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can't know something has peaked or bottomed out until way after the fact.
It's like having a sign of relief when in the eye of a hurricane or ignoring the possibility of aftershocks from earthquakes.They have pretty good infection models for the flu.
So yes, they can have a good idea of when the flu peaks.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30186624</id>
	<title>The Who?</title>
	<author>marciot</author>
	<datestamp>1258833540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since when did The Who start making announcements about flu pandemics? Is this like a PSA with celebrity endorsements?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since when did The Who start making announcements about flu pandemics ?
Is this like a PSA with celebrity endorsements ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since when did The Who start making announcements about flu pandemics?
Is this like a PSA with celebrity endorsements?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30187800</id>
	<title>Re:Is there supposed to be only one peak ?</title>
	<author>rrohbeck</author>
	<datestamp>1258797780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>France is also the country with the biggest antivaxx movement in Europe.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>France is also the country with the biggest antivaxx movement in Europe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>France is also the country with the biggest antivaxx movement in Europe.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185504</id>
	<title>The WHO is horrible.</title>
	<author>Timosch</author>
	<datestamp>1258826640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>They did horrible things, e.g. killing <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who\_Killed\_the\_Electric\_Car\%3F" title="wikipedia.org">the electric car</a> [wikipedia.org], <a href="http://blog.filter-mag.com/filter/2009/11/who-killed-sgt-pepper.html" title="filter-mag.com">Sgt Pepper</a> [filter-mag.com],<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</htmltext>
<tokenext>They did horrible things , e.g .
killing the electric car [ wikipedia.org ] , Sgt Pepper [ filter-mag.com ] , .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They did horrible things, e.g.
killing the electric car [wikipedia.org], Sgt Pepper [filter-mag.com], ...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30187576</id>
	<title>Re:Where does the money go?</title>
	<author>ukyoCE</author>
	<datestamp>1258796520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Virulence is as important to consider as severity.  This is so contagious (due to lack of immunity) that almost everyone <i>will</i> get it.</p><p>The deaths per capita will be far higher than influenza, even if the individual risk of death is lower.  We're quite fortunate it's mild enough that many people who have gotten it don't even realize it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Virulence is as important to consider as severity .
This is so contagious ( due to lack of immunity ) that almost everyone will get it.The deaths per capita will be far higher than influenza , even if the individual risk of death is lower .
We 're quite fortunate it 's mild enough that many people who have gotten it do n't even realize it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Virulence is as important to consider as severity.
This is so contagious (due to lack of immunity) that almost everyone will get it.The deaths per capita will be far higher than influenza, even if the individual risk of death is lower.
We're quite fortunate it's mild enough that many people who have gotten it don't even realize it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_1416248.30185154</id>
	<title>Relevance</title>
	<author>Pete Venkman</author>
	<datestamp>1258824840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't the peak something that you talk about later when you are analyzing the data?  Of what relevance is it to discuss a peak in this current cycle?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't the peak something that you talk about later when you are analyzing the data ?
Of what relevance is it to discuss a peak in this current cycle ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't the peak something that you talk about later when you are analyzing the data?
Of what relevance is it to discuss a peak in this current cycle?</sentencetext>
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