<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_21_0417223</id>
	<title>Major Electronics Firms Support Ending Use of "Conflict Minerals"</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1258809120000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>tburton writes <i>"The US House of Representatives yesterday released the <a href="http://www.house.gov/mcdermott/pr091119.shtml">Conflict Minerals Trade Act (HR 4128)</a> to try and end the international trade of tungsten, tantalum and col-tan, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF-sJgcoY20">the mining of which</a> is accused of <a href="http://www.globalwitness.org/media\_library\_detail.php/801/en/bisie\_killings\_show\_minerals\_at\_heart\_of\_congo\_con">fueling violent rape and murder</a> in eastern Congo. Since the very same minerals power the most popular consumer electronics from HP, Verizon, Nokia, RIM and Intel, the Information Technology Industry Council has quickly signed a <a href="http://www.itic.org/news/2009/11/19/press-releases/high-tech-industry-applauds-rep.-mcdermott-s-effort-to-halt-trade-in-conflict-minerals/">statement of support</a>. Advocacy groups <a href="http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ngos-welcome-the-conflict-minerals-trade-act-of-2009-70458547.html">are hopeful these commitments prove to be meaningful</a> as <a href="http://www.theroot.com/views/your-computer-killing-congo">consumers begin to question</a> the end result of the supply chains powering their favorite gadget."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>tburton writes " The US House of Representatives yesterday released the Conflict Minerals Trade Act ( HR 4128 ) to try and end the international trade of tungsten , tantalum and col-tan , the mining of which is accused of fueling violent rape and murder in eastern Congo .
Since the very same minerals power the most popular consumer electronics from HP , Verizon , Nokia , RIM and Intel , the Information Technology Industry Council has quickly signed a statement of support .
Advocacy groups are hopeful these commitments prove to be meaningful as consumers begin to question the end result of the supply chains powering their favorite gadget .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>tburton writes "The US House of Representatives yesterday released the Conflict Minerals Trade Act (HR 4128) to try and end the international trade of tungsten, tantalum and col-tan, the mining of which is accused of fueling violent rape and murder in eastern Congo.
Since the very same minerals power the most popular consumer electronics from HP, Verizon, Nokia, RIM and Intel, the Information Technology Industry Council has quickly signed a statement of support.
Advocacy groups are hopeful these commitments prove to be meaningful as consumers begin to question the end result of the supply chains powering their favorite gadget.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30185340</id>
	<title>Next up</title>
	<author>Jiro</author>
	<datestamp>1258825620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The "Conflict Petroleum Trade Act".  Prohibits us from buying oil from countries with repeated human rights violations.  Saudi Arabia should really like this one.  It'll never happen, of course.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The " Conflict Petroleum Trade Act " .
Prohibits us from buying oil from countries with repeated human rights violations .
Saudi Arabia should really like this one .
It 'll never happen , of course .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The "Conflict Petroleum Trade Act".
Prohibits us from buying oil from countries with repeated human rights violations.
Saudi Arabia should really like this one.
It'll never happen, of course.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30184106</id>
	<title>Re:Hardly surprising</title>
	<author>flyneye</author>
	<datestamp>1258817880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Still, this is just the beginning of legislation (a.k.a. just putting the head in). Did you ever know of legislation that wasn't eventually built on? It's a flip of the coin, perhaps the right will add to it later, perhaps the left. Then more piled on that. What will it be like years from now? Will this screw up industries and jobs with left legislation? Will this ruin the environment or enslave us with right legislation?<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; The Congo needs to take care of the Congo. Revolt, flee, or make peace with itself. Kinda like wild animals other peoples countries need left alone to sink or swim, evolve or die. Bad things happen everywhere, we are only selective about rendering aid when it suits our financial interests. We can't do it all for everyone else or we will spread ourselves too thin and be resented for it.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I'm glad to hear about Portugal, but what of the world to come?<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; The World is bad in places just like its deep or high in places, dangerous in places. That's just the way it is. The illusion that you can do something about it to relieve your conscience is only a tool used to manipulate you for someone elses aspirations, good or evil, we end up used, reamed suckers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Still , this is just the beginning of legislation ( a.k.a .
just putting the head in ) .
Did you ever know of legislation that was n't eventually built on ?
It 's a flip of the coin , perhaps the right will add to it later , perhaps the left .
Then more piled on that .
What will it be like years from now ?
Will this screw up industries and jobs with left legislation ?
Will this ruin the environment or enslave us with right legislation ?
          The Congo needs to take care of the Congo .
Revolt , flee , or make peace with itself .
Kinda like wild animals other peoples countries need left alone to sink or swim , evolve or die .
Bad things happen everywhere , we are only selective about rendering aid when it suits our financial interests .
We ca n't do it all for everyone else or we will spread ourselves too thin and be resented for it .
      I 'm glad to hear about Portugal , but what of the world to come ?
        The World is bad in places just like its deep or high in places , dangerous in places .
That 's just the way it is .
The illusion that you can do something about it to relieve your conscience is only a tool used to manipulate you for someone elses aspirations , good or evil , we end up used , reamed suckers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Still, this is just the beginning of legislation (a.k.a.
just putting the head in).
Did you ever know of legislation that wasn't eventually built on?
It's a flip of the coin, perhaps the right will add to it later, perhaps the left.
Then more piled on that.
What will it be like years from now?
Will this screw up industries and jobs with left legislation?
Will this ruin the environment or enslave us with right legislation?
          The Congo needs to take care of the Congo.
Revolt, flee, or make peace with itself.
Kinda like wild animals other peoples countries need left alone to sink or swim, evolve or die.
Bad things happen everywhere, we are only selective about rendering aid when it suits our financial interests.
We can't do it all for everyone else or we will spread ourselves too thin and be resented for it.
      I'm glad to hear about Portugal, but what of the world to come?
        The World is bad in places just like its deep or high in places, dangerous in places.
That's just the way it is.
The illusion that you can do something about it to relieve your conscience is only a tool used to manipulate you for someone elses aspirations, good or evil, we end up used, reamed suckers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30186776</id>
	<title>Bzzt, wrong.</title>
	<author>ciroknight</author>
	<datestamp>1258834500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There is a way to know explicitly where the minerals came from. The unfortunate part is, it's very expensive and revealing the fact that you know where the minerals came from is only more likely to cause you trouble, rather than solving a problem.
<br> <br>
Scientists figured out years ago that different parts of the earth have different concentrations of radioisotopes and impurities. Those are more than enough to geolocate the source of any number of mineral supplies. It's virtually the same way scientists can know if a sample of rock is really a meteorite or if a sample of drugs came from someone's backyard methcook or some superlab in Mexico. Measuring the amount of tantalum-180 vs -181 will tell you whether or not it came from Africa or China, and as any nuclear engineer will tell you, separating two isotopes that close in weight is extremely difficult, so it's hard to disguise.
<br> <br>
Still, stopping the world so you can test someone's ore isn't really going to solve any problems. You might stop buying from one company because of it, but since every other company will still use the conflict ore, and the ones that don't will charge more, simple economics will force this stuff to be used as long as it is created. Not buying it simply isn't a realistic option; even if we started mining the minerals that we could (like tungsten) here in the States, it'd still cost a fortune more than importing it (at least in the beginning), which is enough to keep people from doing it here.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is a way to know explicitly where the minerals came from .
The unfortunate part is , it 's very expensive and revealing the fact that you know where the minerals came from is only more likely to cause you trouble , rather than solving a problem .
Scientists figured out years ago that different parts of the earth have different concentrations of radioisotopes and impurities .
Those are more than enough to geolocate the source of any number of mineral supplies .
It 's virtually the same way scientists can know if a sample of rock is really a meteorite or if a sample of drugs came from someone 's backyard methcook or some superlab in Mexico .
Measuring the amount of tantalum-180 vs -181 will tell you whether or not it came from Africa or China , and as any nuclear engineer will tell you , separating two isotopes that close in weight is extremely difficult , so it 's hard to disguise .
Still , stopping the world so you can test someone 's ore is n't really going to solve any problems .
You might stop buying from one company because of it , but since every other company will still use the conflict ore , and the ones that do n't will charge more , simple economics will force this stuff to be used as long as it is created .
Not buying it simply is n't a realistic option ; even if we started mining the minerals that we could ( like tungsten ) here in the States , it 'd still cost a fortune more than importing it ( at least in the beginning ) , which is enough to keep people from doing it here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is a way to know explicitly where the minerals came from.
The unfortunate part is, it's very expensive and revealing the fact that you know where the minerals came from is only more likely to cause you trouble, rather than solving a problem.
Scientists figured out years ago that different parts of the earth have different concentrations of radioisotopes and impurities.
Those are more than enough to geolocate the source of any number of mineral supplies.
It's virtually the same way scientists can know if a sample of rock is really a meteorite or if a sample of drugs came from someone's backyard methcook or some superlab in Mexico.
Measuring the amount of tantalum-180 vs -181 will tell you whether or not it came from Africa or China, and as any nuclear engineer will tell you, separating two isotopes that close in weight is extremely difficult, so it's hard to disguise.
Still, stopping the world so you can test someone's ore isn't really going to solve any problems.
You might stop buying from one company because of it, but since every other company will still use the conflict ore, and the ones that don't will charge more, simple economics will force this stuff to be used as long as it is created.
Not buying it simply isn't a realistic option; even if we started mining the minerals that we could (like tungsten) here in the States, it'd still cost a fortune more than importing it (at least in the beginning), which is enough to keep people from doing it here.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30183728</id>
	<title>Just like conflict diamonds?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258813740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This will work just as well as all of those useless "conflict diamond" resolutions that have accomplished nothing more than forcing DeBeers to launder its African blood diamonds through its "mines" in Canada.</p><p>The big miners will "discover" mines in some "friendly" country and just launder the stuff through them, just like they have done with diamonds.</p><p>*sigh*</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This will work just as well as all of those useless " conflict diamond " resolutions that have accomplished nothing more than forcing DeBeers to launder its African blood diamonds through its " mines " in Canada.The big miners will " discover " mines in some " friendly " country and just launder the stuff through them , just like they have done with diamonds .
* sigh *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This will work just as well as all of those useless "conflict diamond" resolutions that have accomplished nothing more than forcing DeBeers to launder its African blood diamonds through its "mines" in Canada.The big miners will "discover" mines in some "friendly" country and just launder the stuff through them, just like they have done with diamonds.
*sigh*</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30184068</id>
	<title>Corporate Socialism!</title>
	<author>AlexLibman</author>
	<datestamp>1258817580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Big Business loves government regulation, because they get to control it and raise the barrier-to-entry for smaller / future competition.</p><p>Megacorps and demagogue politicians aside, regulation hurts everyone else, especially the so-called "sweatshop victims" who must now resort to even worse means of survival (if any).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Big Business loves government regulation , because they get to control it and raise the barrier-to-entry for smaller / future competition.Megacorps and demagogue politicians aside , regulation hurts everyone else , especially the so-called " sweatshop victims " who must now resort to even worse means of survival ( if any ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Big Business loves government regulation, because they get to control it and raise the barrier-to-entry for smaller / future competition.Megacorps and demagogue politicians aside, regulation hurts everyone else, especially the so-called "sweatshop victims" who must now resort to even worse means of survival (if any).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30183740</id>
	<title>Just let me know...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258813800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...when you find some NONviolent rape and murder, m'kay?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...when you find some NONviolent rape and murder , m'kay ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...when you find some NONviolent rape and murder, m'kay?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30183786</id>
	<title>You would have to name everybody</title>
	<author>okoskimi</author>
	<datestamp>1258814340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you read the articles (yes, I know... this is Slashdot) you will realize it is not a problem with companies, but with computers and cell phones in general requiring the conflict materials. For some reason, the summary included a few random names and left out others, e.g. Apple most certainly belongs in the list as it produces both computers and cell phones.</p><p>What you can do, is name the companies who do try to behave responsibly and control where their raw materials come from. Quoting one of the referenced articles: "Cell phone manufacturers like Samsung, Motorola, Apple and Nokia have long had official policies against the use of conflict minerals in their products."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you read the articles ( yes , I know... this is Slashdot ) you will realize it is not a problem with companies , but with computers and cell phones in general requiring the conflict materials .
For some reason , the summary included a few random names and left out others , e.g .
Apple most certainly belongs in the list as it produces both computers and cell phones.What you can do , is name the companies who do try to behave responsibly and control where their raw materials come from .
Quoting one of the referenced articles : " Cell phone manufacturers like Samsung , Motorola , Apple and Nokia have long had official policies against the use of conflict minerals in their products .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you read the articles (yes, I know... this is Slashdot) you will realize it is not a problem with companies, but with computers and cell phones in general requiring the conflict materials.
For some reason, the summary included a few random names and left out others, e.g.
Apple most certainly belongs in the list as it produces both computers and cell phones.What you can do, is name the companies who do try to behave responsibly and control where their raw materials come from.
Quoting one of the referenced articles: "Cell phone manufacturers like Samsung, Motorola, Apple and Nokia have long had official policies against the use of conflict minerals in their products.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30183918</id>
	<title>If you want to fix the Congo...</title>
	<author>tjstork</author>
	<datestamp>1258816200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The answer is to have more money, not less.  If you wanted to ensure that there were humanitarian practices in the use of these materials, the west should tax these materials on import, and the money to actually help the families that live there through the construction of infrastructure.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The answer is to have more money , not less .
If you wanted to ensure that there were humanitarian practices in the use of these materials , the west should tax these materials on import , and the money to actually help the families that live there through the construction of infrastructure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The answer is to have more money, not less.
If you wanted to ensure that there were humanitarian practices in the use of these materials, the west should tax these materials on import, and the money to actually help the families that live there through the construction of infrastructure.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30183718</id>
	<title>Don't threaten the iPODs of the fanboy AGW crowd!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258813440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The same folks who bow down to the AGW religion so they can save the planet from humanity are going to be really upset!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The same folks who bow down to the AGW religion so they can save the planet from humanity are going to be really upset !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The same folks who bow down to the AGW religion so they can save the planet from humanity are going to be really upset!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30183754</id>
	<title>Flintstones!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258813860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I look forward to my next computer made completely out of local-quarried granite and powered by a small rodent in a wheel.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I look forward to my next computer made completely out of local-quarried granite and powered by a small rodent in a wheel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I look forward to my next computer made completely out of local-quarried granite and powered by a small rodent in a wheel.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30184212</id>
	<title>Western hypocrisy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258818720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I urge everyone who wants to know what's really happening in Africa to read some articles from <a href="http://www.allthingspass.com/" title="allthingspass.com" rel="nofollow">Keith Harmon Snow</a> [allthingspass.com]. For example, <a href="http://allthingspass.com/uploads/html-261AMERICAS\_WAR\_IN\_CENTRAL\_AFRICA\_No\_Photos.htm" title="allthingspass.com" rel="nofollow">AMERICA&rsquo;S WAR IN CENTRAL AFRICA - The Pentagon&rsquo;s Proxy War in the Eastern Congo</a> [allthingspass.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I urge everyone who wants to know what 's really happening in Africa to read some articles from Keith Harmon Snow [ allthingspass.com ] .
For example , AMERICA    S WAR IN CENTRAL AFRICA - The Pentagon    s Proxy War in the Eastern Congo [ allthingspass.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I urge everyone who wants to know what's really happening in Africa to read some articles from Keith Harmon Snow [allthingspass.com].
For example, AMERICA’S WAR IN CENTRAL AFRICA - The Pentagon’s Proxy War in the Eastern Congo [allthingspass.com].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30185794</id>
	<title>Re:Hardly surprising</title>
	<author>Grishnakh</author>
	<datestamp>1258828260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>How many of you use illegal drugs--which goes into the pocket of vicious and violent people.</i></p><p>The fault here lies solely with politicians, who have nonsensically made these drugs illegal.  They tried banning drugs back in the 30s with Prohibition, and it didn't work.  It created a huge black market, with lots of violence.  Why do they keep trying to repeat history?  Users are not to blame for the violence; only politicians and those who support them are.</p><p>If the government decided to ban ketchup one day, and this created a black market and violence, would you still blame ketchup consumers for the violence?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How many of you use illegal drugs--which goes into the pocket of vicious and violent people.The fault here lies solely with politicians , who have nonsensically made these drugs illegal .
They tried banning drugs back in the 30s with Prohibition , and it did n't work .
It created a huge black market , with lots of violence .
Why do they keep trying to repeat history ?
Users are not to blame for the violence ; only politicians and those who support them are.If the government decided to ban ketchup one day , and this created a black market and violence , would you still blame ketchup consumers for the violence ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many of you use illegal drugs--which goes into the pocket of vicious and violent people.The fault here lies solely with politicians, who have nonsensically made these drugs illegal.
They tried banning drugs back in the 30s with Prohibition, and it didn't work.
It created a huge black market, with lots of violence.
Why do they keep trying to repeat history?
Users are not to blame for the violence; only politicians and those who support them are.If the government decided to ban ketchup one day, and this created a black market and violence, would you still blame ketchup consumers for the violence?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30184962</id>
	<title>Re:Yeah this work like the Drug War</title>
	<author>arielCo</author>
	<datestamp>1258823700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I honestly don't think there's ANY workable solution to the Congo problem.</p></div><p>Hmm... there's a huge poor populace and a few warlords with guns, and they bid: "join us for the benefits, or languish with your folks and maybe get shot to terrorize the rest". Young fellows with no other hopes for their future easily fall for this offer, and become part of the cycle of oppression and impoverishment.</p><p>At any rate, this would be economically unsustainable (AK's and RPGs are expensive) unless the militias/armies are funded by some highly productive, low-investment activity, and digging out expensive minerals to sell them raw suits the bill just fine. This isn't at all like the blanket embargo on Cuba, which hoped to bring down the <em>whole economy</em> so people would revolt (har har), but a more selective approach - <b>people are in no way benefiting from mineral extraction</b>, since the money ends up with the arms dealers, the minerals go to our gadgets, and the warlords get the guns.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I honestly do n't think there 's ANY workable solution to the Congo problem.Hmm... there 's a huge poor populace and a few warlords with guns , and they bid : " join us for the benefits , or languish with your folks and maybe get shot to terrorize the rest " .
Young fellows with no other hopes for their future easily fall for this offer , and become part of the cycle of oppression and impoverishment.At any rate , this would be economically unsustainable ( AK 's and RPGs are expensive ) unless the militias/armies are funded by some highly productive , low-investment activity , and digging out expensive minerals to sell them raw suits the bill just fine .
This is n't at all like the blanket embargo on Cuba , which hoped to bring down the whole economy so people would revolt ( har har ) , but a more selective approach - people are in no way benefiting from mineral extraction , since the money ends up with the arms dealers , the minerals go to our gadgets , and the warlords get the guns .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I honestly don't think there's ANY workable solution to the Congo problem.Hmm... there's a huge poor populace and a few warlords with guns, and they bid: "join us for the benefits, or languish with your folks and maybe get shot to terrorize the rest".
Young fellows with no other hopes for their future easily fall for this offer, and become part of the cycle of oppression and impoverishment.At any rate, this would be economically unsustainable (AK's and RPGs are expensive) unless the militias/armies are funded by some highly productive, low-investment activity, and digging out expensive minerals to sell them raw suits the bill just fine.
This isn't at all like the blanket embargo on Cuba, which hoped to bring down the whole economy so people would revolt (har har), but a more selective approach - people are in no way benefiting from mineral extraction, since the money ends up with the arms dealers, the minerals go to our gadgets, and the warlords get the guns.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30186596</id>
	<title>Very Bad for Electronic Industry</title>
	<author>physburn</author>
	<datestamp>1258833360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Both the elements Tungsten and Tantulum are off extreme stategic importances
to the electronics industry. Tungsten for good old fashioned incandestant light
bulbs. Tantulum for electrolytic capacitors. There isn't a room or modern consumer
item that doesn't use one all the other, so banning either item, would have
drastic effects on modern life. Off course, there are some modern replacements
for either element for instance LED bulbs and carbon based, supercapacitors.
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<tokenext>Both the elements Tungsten and Tantulum are off extreme stategic importances to the electronics industry .
Tungsten for good old fashioned incandestant light bulbs .
Tantulum for electrolytic capacitors .
There is n't a room or modern consumer item that does n't use one all the other , so banning either item , would have drastic effects on modern life .
Off course , there are some modern replacements for either element for instance LED bulbs and carbon based , supercapacitors .
--- Electronics Industrys [ feeddistiller.com ] Feed @ Feed Distiller [ feeddistiller.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Both the elements Tungsten and Tantulum are off extreme stategic importances
to the electronics industry.
Tungsten for good old fashioned incandestant light
bulbs.
Tantulum for electrolytic capacitors.
There isn't a room or modern consumer
item that doesn't use one all the other, so banning either item, would have
drastic effects on modern life.
Off course, there are some modern replacements
for either element for instance LED bulbs and carbon based, supercapacitors.
---

Electronics Industrys [feeddistiller.com] Feed  @ Feed Distiller [feeddistiller.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30187354</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about the Congo?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258795200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>They t'k'r jobs!</htmltext>
<tokenext>They t'k'r jobs !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They t'k'r jobs!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30189606</id>
	<title>Re:Hardly surprising</title>
	<author>couchslug</author>
	<datestamp>1258810860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"How many of you use illegal drugs--which goes into the pocket of vicious and violent people."</p><p>Not if you grow your own,<br>and do note that the War Against Some Drugs is what makes their market both profitable AND illegal, which ENSURES violence is a useful business practice.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" How many of you use illegal drugs--which goes into the pocket of vicious and violent people .
" Not if you grow your own,and do note that the War Against Some Drugs is what makes their market both profitable AND illegal , which ENSURES violence is a useful business practice .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"How many of you use illegal drugs--which goes into the pocket of vicious and violent people.
"Not if you grow your own,and do note that the War Against Some Drugs is what makes their market both profitable AND illegal, which ENSURES violence is a useful business practice.
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30185176</id>
	<title>how about conflict petroleum</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258824900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I refuse to fill up at any gas station unless I can check their paper trail without petroleum from Iraq or the middle east.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I refuse to fill up at any gas station unless I can check their paper trail without petroleum from Iraq or the middle east .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I refuse to fill up at any gas station unless I can check their paper trail without petroleum from Iraq or the middle east.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30187970</id>
	<title>Re:Just like diamonds and oil</title>
	<author>Toonol</author>
	<datestamp>1258798920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>The unwashed masses would buy products made of dead baby carcasses.</i> <br> <br>

I've always hated that term.  People who refer to "the unwashed masses" always implicitly mean there exists the "enlighted minority", who is very superior, and always agrees with the person making the claim.<br> <br>

Why not just call them "peasants"?  It's what you mean.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The unwashed masses would buy products made of dead baby carcasses .
I 've always hated that term .
People who refer to " the unwashed masses " always implicitly mean there exists the " enlighted minority " , who is very superior , and always agrees with the person making the claim .
Why not just call them " peasants " ?
It 's what you mean .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The unwashed masses would buy products made of dead baby carcasses.
I've always hated that term.
People who refer to "the unwashed masses" always implicitly mean there exists the "enlighted minority", who is very superior, and always agrees with the person making the claim.
Why not just call them "peasants"?
It's what you mean.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30183750</id>
	<title>Oh goodie!</title>
	<author>Vinegar Joe</author>
	<datestamp>1258813860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Another excuse to jack up the prices and make everyone feel all fuzzy and warm!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Another excuse to jack up the prices and make everyone feel all fuzzy and warm !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Another excuse to jack up the prices and make everyone feel all fuzzy and warm!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30189592</id>
	<title>Re:Hardly surprising</title>
	<author>epine</author>
	<datestamp>1258810680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Did you ever know of legislation that wasn't eventually built on?</p></div></blockquote><p>Timely.  I encountered exactly the same thought yesterday from the blowhard publicly rapping Vizio's knuckles for the grave sin of suggesting that the initial regulatory guidelines are livable.  I'm on an economics binge lately.  Already, the slippery slope has invaded my dreams.  I'm about ready to grab a bag of pitons and head on down to the Cliffs of Insanity.  Apparently, it's less hard on the nerves to take the vertical ascent than to never know when your foot might strike some gull quark and furrow six inches backwards.</p><p>The interesting thing is that I took a stroll down memory lane yesterday evening with this lecture by Kirk McKusick.</p><p><a href="http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/2009/02/bsdtalk170-marshall-kirk-mckusick-at.html" title="blogspot.com">bsdtalk: bsdtalk170 - Marshall Kirk McKusick at DCBSDCon</a> [blogspot.com]</p><p>He has some funny lines about Bill Joy, who could write unmaintainable code ten times as fast as any reasonable person.  Krik keeps muttering about how, thirty years later, code they initially thought of as disposable hasn't much changed.</p><p>But I agree with your sentiment.  The best way not to fall into the trap of maintaining software is never to release it in the first place.</p><p>About the Congo: there are four points you can find really fast on any Gapminder video: America, China, India, and The Congo.  Good eye.  Where all I could see was a human sinkhole stuck in the bottom left corner, you spotted an under-served market for self-help books written in Congolese.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did you ever know of legislation that was n't eventually built on ? Timely .
I encountered exactly the same thought yesterday from the blowhard publicly rapping Vizio 's knuckles for the grave sin of suggesting that the initial regulatory guidelines are livable .
I 'm on an economics binge lately .
Already , the slippery slope has invaded my dreams .
I 'm about ready to grab a bag of pitons and head on down to the Cliffs of Insanity .
Apparently , it 's less hard on the nerves to take the vertical ascent than to never know when your foot might strike some gull quark and furrow six inches backwards.The interesting thing is that I took a stroll down memory lane yesterday evening with this lecture by Kirk McKusick.bsdtalk : bsdtalk170 - Marshall Kirk McKusick at DCBSDCon [ blogspot.com ] He has some funny lines about Bill Joy , who could write unmaintainable code ten times as fast as any reasonable person .
Krik keeps muttering about how , thirty years later , code they initially thought of as disposable has n't much changed.But I agree with your sentiment .
The best way not to fall into the trap of maintaining software is never to release it in the first place.About the Congo : there are four points you can find really fast on any Gapminder video : America , China , India , and The Congo .
Good eye .
Where all I could see was a human sinkhole stuck in the bottom left corner , you spotted an under-served market for self-help books written in Congolese .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did you ever know of legislation that wasn't eventually built on?Timely.
I encountered exactly the same thought yesterday from the blowhard publicly rapping Vizio's knuckles for the grave sin of suggesting that the initial regulatory guidelines are livable.
I'm on an economics binge lately.
Already, the slippery slope has invaded my dreams.
I'm about ready to grab a bag of pitons and head on down to the Cliffs of Insanity.
Apparently, it's less hard on the nerves to take the vertical ascent than to never know when your foot might strike some gull quark and furrow six inches backwards.The interesting thing is that I took a stroll down memory lane yesterday evening with this lecture by Kirk McKusick.bsdtalk: bsdtalk170 - Marshall Kirk McKusick at DCBSDCon [blogspot.com]He has some funny lines about Bill Joy, who could write unmaintainable code ten times as fast as any reasonable person.
Krik keeps muttering about how, thirty years later, code they initially thought of as disposable hasn't much changed.But I agree with your sentiment.
The best way not to fall into the trap of maintaining software is never to release it in the first place.About the Congo: there are four points you can find really fast on any Gapminder video: America, China, India, and The Congo.
Good eye.
Where all I could see was a human sinkhole stuck in the bottom left corner, you spotted an under-served market for self-help books written in Congolese.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30186084</id>
	<title>Re:Yeah this work like the Drug War</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258830180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No why not supply the poor populace with their own guns, so they can rise up against the warlords?  AKs aren't expensive to us, and could be cheaply mass-produced for very little.  I say drop some pallets full of guns and ammo into these places, along with a few advisors to train and advise them, and then these poor, oppressed people will be able to take care of themselves.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No why not supply the poor populace with their own guns , so they can rise up against the warlords ?
AKs are n't expensive to us , and could be cheaply mass-produced for very little .
I say drop some pallets full of guns and ammo into these places , along with a few advisors to train and advise them , and then these poor , oppressed people will be able to take care of themselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No why not supply the poor populace with their own guns, so they can rise up against the warlords?
AKs aren't expensive to us, and could be cheaply mass-produced for very little.
I say drop some pallets full of guns and ammo into these places, along with a few advisors to train and advise them, and then these poor, oppressed people will be able to take care of themselves.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30184980</id>
	<title>But my computer requires blood sacrifices</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258823820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now I'll have to put a drop of human blood on every motherboard.  There is a major corporate wide upgrade planned for next year.  I don't have enough blood to spare for so many systems.  I think I might have to kill a drifter.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now I 'll have to put a drop of human blood on every motherboard .
There is a major corporate wide upgrade planned for next year .
I do n't have enough blood to spare for so many systems .
I think I might have to kill a drifter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now I'll have to put a drop of human blood on every motherboard.
There is a major corporate wide upgrade planned for next year.
I don't have enough blood to spare for so many systems.
I think I might have to kill a drifter.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30183784</id>
	<title>Re:This will do nothing to end the "conflict".</title>
	<author>andrew554</author>
	<datestamp>1258814340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
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	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The fighting is about politics, not minerals.</p></div></blockquote><p>And what is politics about if not the distribution of power and wealth? (Remember that the minerals are making the warlords richer and funding the mayhem.)

</p><p>And it won&rsquo;t solve the problem completely, but it will put pressure on to start towards a solution. And this is a good thing. Especially when the alternative is to turn a blind eye and pretend nothing is happening.

</p><p>An imperfect solution is better than nothing.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The fighting is about politics , not minerals.And what is politics about if not the distribution of power and wealth ?
( Remember that the minerals are making the warlords richer and funding the mayhem .
) And it won    t solve the problem completely , but it will put pressure on to start towards a solution .
And this is a good thing .
Especially when the alternative is to turn a blind eye and pretend nothing is happening .
An imperfect solution is better than nothing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The fighting is about politics, not minerals.And what is politics about if not the distribution of power and wealth?
(Remember that the minerals are making the warlords richer and funding the mayhem.
)

And it won’t solve the problem completely, but it will put pressure on to start towards a solution.
And this is a good thing.
Especially when the alternative is to turn a blind eye and pretend nothing is happening.
An imperfect solution is better than nothing.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30183716</id>
	<title>Just like diamonds and oil</title>
	<author>tedgyz</author>
	<datestamp>1258813380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm sure it be just like other conflict industries.  We will care about it just long enough until our next purchase.  The unwashed masses would buy products made of dead baby carcasses.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure it be just like other conflict industries .
We will care about it just long enough until our next purchase .
The unwashed masses would buy products made of dead baby carcasses .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure it be just like other conflict industries.
We will care about it just long enough until our next purchase.
The unwashed masses would buy products made of dead baby carcasses.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30183752</id>
	<title>Yeah this work like the Drug War</title>
	<author>commodore64\_love</author>
	<datestamp>1258813860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We all know that banning the use of marijuana, cocaine, and other naturally-occurring drugs helped de-escalate violence.</p><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>/end sarcasm</p><p>The banning of these conflict minerals simply means that you'll leave former miners without jobs, and then they'll starve, as happened when we embargoed Iraq in the 90s, and Cuba over the last several decades.  I honestly don't think there's ANY workable solution to the Congo problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We all know that banning the use of marijuana , cocaine , and other naturally-occurring drugs helped de-escalate violence .
/end sarcasmThe banning of these conflict minerals simply means that you 'll leave former miners without jobs , and then they 'll starve , as happened when we embargoed Iraq in the 90s , and Cuba over the last several decades .
I honestly do n't think there 's ANY workable solution to the Congo problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We all know that banning the use of marijuana, cocaine, and other naturally-occurring drugs helped de-escalate violence.
/end sarcasmThe banning of these conflict minerals simply means that you'll leave former miners without jobs, and then they'll starve, as happened when we embargoed Iraq in the 90s, and Cuba over the last several decades.
I honestly don't think there's ANY workable solution to the Congo problem.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30185374</id>
	<title>Mine the Stars</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258825860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Get it from asteroids, already!</p><p>Support needed development of the space tech and capability. Nobody gets killed but some very few willing volunteers. And a lot of fellow nerds get to move out of TMB (mom's basements) and into spacious mining capsules for those relaxing and edifying 2 or 3 year streches. As an added bonus, there will probably be no noticeable change in their physical condition before and after that time in space.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;p</p><p>Plus, its 'Totally' eco-friendly - unless you nudge something where it shouldn't, of course.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p><p>And, while they're at it, they could fetch enough nickel / lithium / whatever to expedite a sustainable electrical civilization.</p><p>und so wieder...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Get it from asteroids , already ! Support needed development of the space tech and capability .
Nobody gets killed but some very few willing volunteers .
And a lot of fellow nerds get to move out of TMB ( mom 's basements ) and into spacious mining capsules for those relaxing and edifying 2 or 3 year streches .
As an added bonus , there will probably be no noticeable change in their physical condition before and after that time in space .
; pPlus , its 'Totally ' eco-friendly - unless you nudge something where it should n't , of course .
; ) And , while they 're at it , they could fetch enough nickel / lithium / whatever to expedite a sustainable electrical civilization.und so wieder.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get it from asteroids, already!Support needed development of the space tech and capability.
Nobody gets killed but some very few willing volunteers.
And a lot of fellow nerds get to move out of TMB (mom's basements) and into spacious mining capsules for those relaxing and edifying 2 or 3 year streches.
As an added bonus, there will probably be no noticeable change in their physical condition before and after that time in space.
;pPlus, its 'Totally' eco-friendly - unless you nudge something where it shouldn't, of course.
;)And, while they're at it, they could fetch enough nickel / lithium / whatever to expedite a sustainable electrical civilization.und so wieder...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30183748</id>
	<title>Re:Hardly surprising</title>
	<author>joaommp</author>
	<datestamp>1258813860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, they could care. I don't know about the other minerals, but at least tungesten can be mined from Portugal, where... well, let's say things don't work as they do in Congo.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , they could care .
I do n't know about the other minerals , but at least tungesten can be mined from Portugal , where... well , let 's say things do n't work as they do in Congo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, they could care.
I don't know about the other minerals, but at least tungesten can be mined from Portugal, where... well, let's say things don't work as they do in Congo.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30183870</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about the Congo?</title>
	<author>Lumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1258815360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>We may not buy the stuff, but the Chinese will, </i></p><p>which means we will through a third party.... China!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We may not buy the stuff , but the Chinese will , which means we will through a third party.... China !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We may not buy the stuff, but the Chinese will, which means we will through a third party.... China!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30183924</id>
	<title>Nothing will change</title>
	<author>ickleberry</author>
	<datestamp>1258816260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Except the smaller electronics firms will be able to get much cheaper 'conflict minerals'. Its good news for all really, smaller companies will be able to make cheaper stuff while the large ones get to tell everyone how ethical they are being.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Except the smaller electronics firms will be able to get much cheaper 'conflict minerals' .
Its good news for all really , smaller companies will be able to make cheaper stuff while the large ones get to tell everyone how ethical they are being .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except the smaller electronics firms will be able to get much cheaper 'conflict minerals'.
Its good news for all really, smaller companies will be able to make cheaper stuff while the large ones get to tell everyone how ethical they are being.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30183724</id>
	<title>This will do nothing to end the "conflict".</title>
	<author>John Hasler</author>
	<datestamp>1258813680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The fighting is about politics, not minerals.  This will just make everyone in the region poorer.  The minerals will continue to come out albeit at a reduced rate while yet another layer of criminal politicians seize the opportunity to enrich themselves by falsifying the documents necessary to get the stuff on the legal market.</p><p>This is just more feelgood crap from the assholes in Washington.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The fighting is about politics , not minerals .
This will just make everyone in the region poorer .
The minerals will continue to come out albeit at a reduced rate while yet another layer of criminal politicians seize the opportunity to enrich themselves by falsifying the documents necessary to get the stuff on the legal market.This is just more feelgood crap from the assholes in Washington .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The fighting is about politics, not minerals.
This will just make everyone in the region poorer.
The minerals will continue to come out albeit at a reduced rate while yet another layer of criminal politicians seize the opportunity to enrich themselves by falsifying the documents necessary to get the stuff on the legal market.This is just more feelgood crap from the assholes in Washington.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30183794</id>
	<title>Fungible Resources</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258814400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmmm, does anyone in Congress know what a fungible resource is?</p><p>Basically, there's no way to know if the tungsten in your product (or even in your supply chain) came from the Eastern Congo, or pretty much anywhere else.</p><p>If the price for "tungsten" goes up appreciably, then Eastern Congo "tungsten" will just show up indirectly from other sources.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmmm , does anyone in Congress know what a fungible resource is ? Basically , there 's no way to know if the tungsten in your product ( or even in your supply chain ) came from the Eastern Congo , or pretty much anywhere else.If the price for " tungsten " goes up appreciably , then Eastern Congo " tungsten " will just show up indirectly from other sources .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmmm, does anyone in Congress know what a fungible resource is?Basically, there's no way to know if the tungsten in your product (or even in your supply chain) came from the Eastern Congo, or pretty much anywhere else.If the price for "tungsten" goes up appreciably, then Eastern Congo "tungsten" will just show up indirectly from other sources.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30183692</id>
	<title>Hardly surprising</title>
	<author>jcrb</author>
	<datestamp>1258813080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is this of any surprise that the companies don't really care where their materials come from as long as they are getting what they want at a price they want?</p><p>Public exposure and "naming names" is the only way to have an effect on this behavior, both so people know the effect of buying a product from certain companies as well as making the companies fearful of the bad PR that will come from using such materials</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is this of any surprise that the companies do n't really care where their materials come from as long as they are getting what they want at a price they want ? Public exposure and " naming names " is the only way to have an effect on this behavior , both so people know the effect of buying a product from certain companies as well as making the companies fearful of the bad PR that will come from using such materials</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is this of any surprise that the companies don't really care where their materials come from as long as they are getting what they want at a price they want?Public exposure and "naming names" is the only way to have an effect on this behavior, both so people know the effect of buying a product from certain companies as well as making the companies fearful of the bad PR that will come from using such materials</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30183738</id>
	<title>Irony</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258813800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>How ironic that we than ask China to supply the same minerals who has similar Human rights abuses..

US House of Representatives<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..palm to face..</htmltext>
<tokenext>How ironic that we than ask China to supply the same minerals who has similar Human rights abuses. . US House of Representatives ..palm to face. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How ironic that we than ask China to supply the same minerals who has similar Human rights abuses..

US House of Representatives ..palm to face..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30183900</id>
	<title>col-tan</title>
	<author>SpinyNorman</author>
	<datestamp>1258815780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Had to look that one up...</p><p>It's an abbreviation ("coltan", actually) for columbite-tantalite, the primary ore from which niobium (formerly columbium) and tantalum are refined.</p><p>The summary should have stuck to elements rather than mixing elements and ores. I'm sure most of have head or niobium and tantalum, but "col-tan" ???</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Had to look that one up...It 's an abbreviation ( " coltan " , actually ) for columbite-tantalite , the primary ore from which niobium ( formerly columbium ) and tantalum are refined.The summary should have stuck to elements rather than mixing elements and ores .
I 'm sure most of have head or niobium and tantalum , but " col-tan " ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Had to look that one up...It's an abbreviation ("coltan", actually) for columbite-tantalite, the primary ore from which niobium (formerly columbium) and tantalum are refined.The summary should have stuck to elements rather than mixing elements and ores.
I'm sure most of have head or niobium and tantalum, but "col-tan" ??
?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30184044</id>
	<title>thats because you haven't tried very hard</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258817460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i think if you spent more time reading books and less time on playing space marine, you might understand things a little better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i think if you spent more time reading books and less time on playing space marine , you might understand things a little better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i think if you spent more time reading books and less time on playing space marine, you might understand things a little better.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30183990</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about the Congo?</title>
	<author>MattGWU</author>
	<datestamp>1258816980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And radical conservatives want their followers to have as many children as possible (Ex: The Quiverfull movement) to be a Christian army for Jesus with the stated goal of taking over the country politically in a couple generations.  This is somehow better?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....Incidentally though, I'm with you on 'if we don't get the metals, China will.'  That doesn't do us any good at all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And radical conservatives want their followers to have as many children as possible ( Ex : The Quiverfull movement ) to be a Christian army for Jesus with the stated goal of taking over the country politically in a couple generations .
This is somehow better ?
....Incidentally though , I 'm with you on 'if we do n't get the metals , China will .
' That does n't do us any good at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And radical conservatives want their followers to have as many children as possible (Ex: The Quiverfull movement) to be a Christian army for Jesus with the stated goal of taking over the country politically in a couple generations.
This is somehow better?
....Incidentally though, I'm with you on 'if we don't get the metals, China will.
'  That doesn't do us any good at all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30184248</id>
	<title>Re:Just let me know...</title>
	<author>pjt33</author>
	<datestamp>1258819080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Which definition of "violent" are you using? It seems to me that raping someone who's in a coma or killing a sleeping person by anaesthetic overdose could probably qualify as non-violent.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which definition of " violent " are you using ?
It seems to me that raping someone who 's in a coma or killing a sleeping person by anaesthetic overdose could probably qualify as non-violent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which definition of "violent" are you using?
It seems to me that raping someone who's in a coma or killing a sleeping person by anaesthetic overdose could probably qualify as non-violent.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30184004</id>
	<title>China</title>
	<author>WindBourne</author>
	<datestamp>1258817040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>China will simply be the ones to go in there and own it. ANd they will pay far less if EU and America pull out. So now, it will be even harsher, at least for a time, because there is less money in the region.</htmltext>
<tokenext>China will simply be the ones to go in there and own it .
ANd they will pay far less if EU and America pull out .
So now , it will be even harsher , at least for a time , because there is less money in the region .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>China will simply be the ones to go in there and own it.
ANd they will pay far less if EU and America pull out.
So now, it will be even harsher, at least for a time, because there is less money in the region.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30183746</id>
	<title>Hell on Earth</title>
	<author>CRCulver</author>
	<datestamp>1258813860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>While not an especially great book, I got something of a picture of Eastern Congo from reading Tim Butcher's <i> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0802144330?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=3636363-20&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creativeASIN=0802144330" title="amazon.com">Blood River</a> [amazon.com] </i> earlier this year. Though strangely little talked about, the entire region seems truly hell on earth, beyond any of the war zone or famished village you see on television. What I found interesting was that the materials from this region are transported in the backs of trucks to South Africa and only then processes, and the people mining these substances and transporting the excavated material get paid almost nothing for what is in later stages a treasure (and are frequently robbed on the way with it.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>While not an especially great book , I got something of a picture of Eastern Congo from reading Tim Butcher 's Blood River [ amazon.com ] earlier this year .
Though strangely little talked about , the entire region seems truly hell on earth , beyond any of the war zone or famished village you see on television .
What I found interesting was that the materials from this region are transported in the backs of trucks to South Africa and only then processes , and the people mining these substances and transporting the excavated material get paid almost nothing for what is in later stages a treasure ( and are frequently robbed on the way with it .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While not an especially great book, I got something of a picture of Eastern Congo from reading Tim Butcher's  Blood River [amazon.com]  earlier this year.
Though strangely little talked about, the entire region seems truly hell on earth, beyond any of the war zone or famished village you see on television.
What I found interesting was that the materials from this region are transported in the backs of trucks to South Africa and only then processes, and the people mining these substances and transporting the excavated material get paid almost nothing for what is in later stages a treasure (and are frequently robbed on the way with it.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30184680</id>
	<title>Re:Fungible Resources</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258822020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can't you compare the impurities, or even the isotopic composition of the tungsten itself? These should vary from one region to another.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ca n't you compare the impurities , or even the isotopic composition of the tungsten itself ?
These should vary from one region to another .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can't you compare the impurities, or even the isotopic composition of the tungsten itself?
These should vary from one region to another.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30185990</id>
	<title>Re:Just like conflict diamonds?</title>
	<author>qdaku</author>
	<datestamp>1258829520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You make it sound like all the diamond mines in Canada are a sham.  What is with the quotations?  I find that to be a very odd stance as I've worked in one of those aforementioned "mines" and it's not a bunch of people blowing rainbows out of their ass waiting for the next plane full of conflict diamonds to land on the ice road.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You make it sound like all the diamond mines in Canada are a sham .
What is with the quotations ?
I find that to be a very odd stance as I 've worked in one of those aforementioned " mines " and it 's not a bunch of people blowing rainbows out of their ass waiting for the next plane full of conflict diamonds to land on the ice road .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You make it sound like all the diamond mines in Canada are a sham.
What is with the quotations?
I find that to be a very odd stance as I've worked in one of those aforementioned "mines" and it's not a bunch of people blowing rainbows out of their ass waiting for the next plane full of conflict diamonds to land on the ice road.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30188432</id>
	<title>Re:Irony</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258802100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And of course, they are writing contracts with all those African nations to extract their resources.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And of course , they are writing contracts with all those African nations to extract their resources .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And of course, they are writing contracts with all those African nations to extract their resources.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30183912</id>
	<title>They might as well rename it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258816020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To the "Turn over to the Chinese all the minerals in Africa" act. They'll take them, and they do not care one bit about which local regime is in charge today. They go out of their way all the time to state they have no desire to interfere in local politics, they just want the business/raw materials.</p><p>Oh, by the way, how about they ban petroleum products, fuels and plastics? Or do they want to claim petroleum doesn't come in huge part from regimes where human rights are routinely abused, where murders rapes torture and so on are common?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To the " Turn over to the Chinese all the minerals in Africa " act .
They 'll take them , and they do not care one bit about which local regime is in charge today .
They go out of their way all the time to state they have no desire to interfere in local politics , they just want the business/raw materials.Oh , by the way , how about they ban petroleum products , fuels and plastics ?
Or do they want to claim petroleum does n't come in huge part from regimes where human rights are routinely abused , where murders rapes torture and so on are common ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To the "Turn over to the Chinese all the minerals in Africa" act.
They'll take them, and they do not care one bit about which local regime is in charge today.
They go out of their way all the time to state they have no desire to interfere in local politics, they just want the business/raw materials.Oh, by the way, how about they ban petroleum products, fuels and plastics?
Or do they want to claim petroleum doesn't come in huge part from regimes where human rights are routinely abused, where murders rapes torture and so on are common?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30186034</id>
	<title>Re:Irony</title>
	<author>Grishnakh</author>
	<datestamp>1258829820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You've got to be kidding.  China is no paragon of human rights, but they certainly don't abuse them to the extent seen in war-torn African countries, where rape and murder are common.  The only thing that China does that sucks is that they practice censorship, keeping strong control over the media.  They're also quick to use the death penalty, but that's not really that bad; they're not executing innocent fishermen, they're executing convicted criminals.  Yes, Tianenmen was bad, but that was a long time ago.  They haven't had any incidents like that in quite a while (and with today's technology, including iPods with video recording, it would be much harder to keep such a thing covered up).  China's government is all about building up the country for the benefit of the people, and keeping strong control over social order.  Their methods are harsh, but their intent is basically positive.  They believe their methods are necessary in their culture to achieve the goals they've set.  Trying to turn someplace like Iraq, for instance, into an advanced country would require similar methods, as democracy would never work there.  To compare China to African warlords who are all in favor of genocide is just insulting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 've got to be kidding .
China is no paragon of human rights , but they certainly do n't abuse them to the extent seen in war-torn African countries , where rape and murder are common .
The only thing that China does that sucks is that they practice censorship , keeping strong control over the media .
They 're also quick to use the death penalty , but that 's not really that bad ; they 're not executing innocent fishermen , they 're executing convicted criminals .
Yes , Tianenmen was bad , but that was a long time ago .
They have n't had any incidents like that in quite a while ( and with today 's technology , including iPods with video recording , it would be much harder to keep such a thing covered up ) .
China 's government is all about building up the country for the benefit of the people , and keeping strong control over social order .
Their methods are harsh , but their intent is basically positive .
They believe their methods are necessary in their culture to achieve the goals they 've set .
Trying to turn someplace like Iraq , for instance , into an advanced country would require similar methods , as democracy would never work there .
To compare China to African warlords who are all in favor of genocide is just insulting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You've got to be kidding.
China is no paragon of human rights, but they certainly don't abuse them to the extent seen in war-torn African countries, where rape and murder are common.
The only thing that China does that sucks is that they practice censorship, keeping strong control over the media.
They're also quick to use the death penalty, but that's not really that bad; they're not executing innocent fishermen, they're executing convicted criminals.
Yes, Tianenmen was bad, but that was a long time ago.
They haven't had any incidents like that in quite a while (and with today's technology, including iPods with video recording, it would be much harder to keep such a thing covered up).
China's government is all about building up the country for the benefit of the people, and keeping strong control over social order.
Their methods are harsh, but their intent is basically positive.
They believe their methods are necessary in their culture to achieve the goals they've set.
Trying to turn someplace like Iraq, for instance, into an advanced country would require similar methods, as democracy would never work there.
To compare China to African warlords who are all in favor of genocide is just insulting.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30202792</id>
	<title>Re:And t-shirts and jeans and shoes</title>
	<author>tedgyz</author>
	<datestamp>1258996080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I don't see the problem. Humans have been preying on other humans since the first family split in two. You can get on as high a horse as you like, but all you're doing is adding hypocrisy and sanctimony to your list of character flaws.</p></div><p>Looks like you are on the high horse.  I'm glad you know me so well to build my list of flaws. Thanks.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't see the problem .
Humans have been preying on other humans since the first family split in two .
You can get on as high a horse as you like , but all you 're doing is adding hypocrisy and sanctimony to your list of character flaws.Looks like you are on the high horse .
I 'm glad you know me so well to build my list of flaws .
Thanks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't see the problem.
Humans have been preying on other humans since the first family split in two.
You can get on as high a horse as you like, but all you're doing is adding hypocrisy and sanctimony to your list of character flaws.Looks like you are on the high horse.
I'm glad you know me so well to build my list of flaws.
Thanks.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30192542</id>
	<title>Re:Hardly surprising</title>
	<author>Yvanhoe</author>
	<datestamp>1258896000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Even if a company cared, it would be unwise for it to switch to more expensive supplies when others wouldn't. This is why it makes sense that companies support a large ban from some sources instead of individually boycotting them. It is a way of saying "hey, capitalism says I should buy stuff from this warlord, who is the cheapest provider, but I think it would more ethical to have some regulation instead. I'll buy from a more expensive source if you make sure my competitors do as well"</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if a company cared , it would be unwise for it to switch to more expensive supplies when others would n't .
This is why it makes sense that companies support a large ban from some sources instead of individually boycotting them .
It is a way of saying " hey , capitalism says I should buy stuff from this warlord , who is the cheapest provider , but I think it would more ethical to have some regulation instead .
I 'll buy from a more expensive source if you make sure my competitors do as well "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if a company cared, it would be unwise for it to switch to more expensive supplies when others wouldn't.
This is why it makes sense that companies support a large ban from some sources instead of individually boycotting them.
It is a way of saying "hey, capitalism says I should buy stuff from this warlord, who is the cheapest provider, but I think it would more ethical to have some regulation instead.
I'll buy from a more expensive source if you make sure my competitors do as well"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30183684</id>
	<title>first</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258813020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>woot</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>woot</tokentext>
<sentencetext>woot</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30184804</id>
	<title>Re:Hardly surprising</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258822680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Is this of any surprise that the companies don't really care where their materials come from as long as they are getting what they want at a price they want?</p></div><p>You mean like people who chase the lowest price, no matter WHERE the product was made? How much of what you buy is made in places like China?

How many of you use illegal drugs--which goes into the pocket of vicious and violent people.

How much of the money you spend on gas goes to support terrorist activity and chattel slavery?</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Public exposure and "naming names" is the only way to have an effect on this behavior, both so people know the effect of buying a product from certain companies as well as making the companies fearful of the bad PR that will come from using such materials</p></div><p>Careful with those stones pal, you may hit yourself.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is this of any surprise that the companies do n't really care where their materials come from as long as they are getting what they want at a price they want ? You mean like people who chase the lowest price , no matter WHERE the product was made ?
How much of what you buy is made in places like China ?
How many of you use illegal drugs--which goes into the pocket of vicious and violent people .
How much of the money you spend on gas goes to support terrorist activity and chattel slavery ? Public exposure and " naming names " is the only way to have an effect on this behavior , both so people know the effect of buying a product from certain companies as well as making the companies fearful of the bad PR that will come from using such materialsCareful with those stones pal , you may hit yourself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is this of any surprise that the companies don't really care where their materials come from as long as they are getting what they want at a price they want?You mean like people who chase the lowest price, no matter WHERE the product was made?
How much of what you buy is made in places like China?
How many of you use illegal drugs--which goes into the pocket of vicious and violent people.
How much of the money you spend on gas goes to support terrorist activity and chattel slavery?Public exposure and "naming names" is the only way to have an effect on this behavior, both so people know the effect of buying a product from certain companies as well as making the companies fearful of the bad PR that will come from using such materialsCareful with those stones pal, you may hit yourself.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30189516</id>
	<title>Re:Just like diamonds and oil</title>
	<author>couchslug</author>
	<datestamp>1258810140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"The unwashed masses would buy products made of dead baby carcasses."</p><p>I'm part of the "washed" masses and don't care who kills who in far-off barbaric lands.</p><p>Africans are making African choices to sell African mineral resources. It is not trollish to point that out. It's all them, not us. They make and perpetuate their own problems, and kill those who try to intervene (watch Black Hawk Down for what happens when do-gooders meddle where they shouldn't have bothered) because they don't care for benevolent colonialism.</p><p>I don't have a reason to care about people from primitive societies, and I do want cheap access to technology. When we accept that Africans inflict spectacular brutality on each other as a matter of course, and stop wanting them to be like us, we can advance our own interests and do business. If we don't exploit "conflict" resources someone more practical (and probably Chinese or Russian) certainly will.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" The unwashed masses would buy products made of dead baby carcasses .
" I 'm part of the " washed " masses and do n't care who kills who in far-off barbaric lands.Africans are making African choices to sell African mineral resources .
It is not trollish to point that out .
It 's all them , not us .
They make and perpetuate their own problems , and kill those who try to intervene ( watch Black Hawk Down for what happens when do-gooders meddle where they should n't have bothered ) because they do n't care for benevolent colonialism.I do n't have a reason to care about people from primitive societies , and I do want cheap access to technology .
When we accept that Africans inflict spectacular brutality on each other as a matter of course , and stop wanting them to be like us , we can advance our own interests and do business .
If we do n't exploit " conflict " resources someone more practical ( and probably Chinese or Russian ) certainly will .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The unwashed masses would buy products made of dead baby carcasses.
"I'm part of the "washed" masses and don't care who kills who in far-off barbaric lands.Africans are making African choices to sell African mineral resources.
It is not trollish to point that out.
It's all them, not us.
They make and perpetuate their own problems, and kill those who try to intervene (watch Black Hawk Down for what happens when do-gooders meddle where they shouldn't have bothered) because they don't care for benevolent colonialism.I don't have a reason to care about people from primitive societies, and I do want cheap access to technology.
When we accept that Africans inflict spectacular brutality on each other as a matter of course, and stop wanting them to be like us, we can advance our own interests and do business.
If we don't exploit "conflict" resources someone more practical (and probably Chinese or Russian) certainly will.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30184360</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about the Congo?</title>
	<author>flyneye</author>
	<datestamp>1258820100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>O.K. I'm not convulsed with laughter, so I can type now.<br>First the phrase "radical conservatives" painted a picture of the opposite of rogues like the Green Party, Zero Pop control, and the freaks who put animal , plant and bug interests ahead of our own. I see a vision of radical rightists in a boat herding dolphins to tuna nets singing "onward christian soldiers". I see consecrated orgies in church basement rec centers," Bobby go help Widdow Jones and your cousin concieve, they been preparin' the luncheon and missed out"....Dammit I'm gigglin again. I doubt the quiverfull movement to be any more dangerous than Mormons. However it is probably pretty irritating to Atheists, who in turn are just as irritating as anyone mentioned in this post.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Don't worry about any christian armies marchin' down your street anytime soon. I don't worry about ATWA getting anywhere in life ( <a href="http://www.atwa.be/one.html" title="www.atwa.be">http://www.atwa.be/one.html</a> [www.atwa.be] ) or scientology recovering any respect or ground in this eon. You really gotta be or at least be able to sustain some kinda righteousness to gain ground anywhere.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I kinda like to meet cultists and freaks of all kinds.Call it a hobby. It is a good exercise in understanding backgrounds and motives of the waaaay out among us and they do get less threatening when you actually reach out and touch them.<br>I will say one thing, the intensely  Christian among us have delicious potluck dinners and will feed you till you pop after entertaining you with an extremely visual performance behind the pulpit. Can't say I'd like to eat with Vegan Democrats for Nader. However if you hear about any church sponsored breeding parties, I'd be glad to bring a quiverfull of my seed, hell I'll even sing hymns.<br>Sumpin' to think about.</p><p>
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<tokenext>O.K .
I 'm not convulsed with laughter , so I can type now.First the phrase " radical conservatives " painted a picture of the opposite of rogues like the Green Party , Zero Pop control , and the freaks who put animal , plant and bug interests ahead of our own .
I see a vision of radical rightists in a boat herding dolphins to tuna nets singing " onward christian soldiers " .
I see consecrated orgies in church basement rec centers , " Bobby go help Widdow Jones and your cousin concieve , they been preparin ' the luncheon and missed out " ....Dammit I 'm gigglin again .
I doubt the quiverfull movement to be any more dangerous than Mormons .
However it is probably pretty irritating to Atheists , who in turn are just as irritating as anyone mentioned in this post .
        Do n't worry about any christian armies marchin ' down your street anytime soon .
I do n't worry about ATWA getting anywhere in life ( http : //www.atwa.be/one.html [ www.atwa.be ] ) or scientology recovering any respect or ground in this eon .
You really got ta be or at least be able to sustain some kinda righteousness to gain ground anywhere .
        I kinda like to meet cultists and freaks of all kinds.Call it a hobby .
It is a good exercise in understanding backgrounds and motives of the waaaay out among us and they do get less threatening when you actually reach out and touch them.I will say one thing , the intensely Christian among us have delicious potluck dinners and will feed you till you pop after entertaining you with an extremely visual performance behind the pulpit .
Ca n't say I 'd like to eat with Vegan Democrats for Nader .
However if you hear about any church sponsored breeding parties , I 'd be glad to bring a quiverfull of my seed , hell I 'll even sing hymns.Sumpin ' to think about .
         </tokentext>
<sentencetext>O.K.
I'm not convulsed with laughter, so I can type now.First the phrase "radical conservatives" painted a picture of the opposite of rogues like the Green Party, Zero Pop control, and the freaks who put animal , plant and bug interests ahead of our own.
I see a vision of radical rightists in a boat herding dolphins to tuna nets singing "onward christian soldiers".
I see consecrated orgies in church basement rec centers," Bobby go help Widdow Jones and your cousin concieve, they been preparin' the luncheon and missed out"....Dammit I'm gigglin again.
I doubt the quiverfull movement to be any more dangerous than Mormons.
However it is probably pretty irritating to Atheists, who in turn are just as irritating as anyone mentioned in this post.
        Don't worry about any christian armies marchin' down your street anytime soon.
I don't worry about ATWA getting anywhere in life ( http://www.atwa.be/one.html [www.atwa.be] ) or scientology recovering any respect or ground in this eon.
You really gotta be or at least be able to sustain some kinda righteousness to gain ground anywhere.
        I kinda like to meet cultists and freaks of all kinds.Call it a hobby.
It is a good exercise in understanding backgrounds and motives of the waaaay out among us and they do get less threatening when you actually reach out and touch them.I will say one thing, the intensely  Christian among us have delicious potluck dinners and will feed you till you pop after entertaining you with an extremely visual performance behind the pulpit.
Can't say I'd like to eat with Vegan Democrats for Nader.
However if you hear about any church sponsored breeding parties, I'd be glad to bring a quiverfull of my seed, hell I'll even sing hymns.Sumpin' to think about.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30185680</id>
	<title>Re:Fungible Resources</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258827600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isotope ratios - also known as 'signatures'. Spectroscopy. And its sisters.</p><p>Or, proactively, irradiate the mining region with a 'non-lethal' tagging dose.</p><p>Put all mining operation under U.N. / African Union administration control and supervision - with local oversight and moderation. Make use of the profits to improve education, health / sanitation, smalll-scale farming and industry.</p><p>Not a solution, but a relative improvement, for a while. Specially if 10 or 20 years are spent really hammering into people's brains that hating each other is wrong and stupid. And counterproductive.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Isotope ratios - also known as 'signatures' .
Spectroscopy. And its sisters.Or , proactively , irradiate the mining region with a 'non-lethal ' tagging dose.Put all mining operation under U.N. / African Union administration control and supervision - with local oversight and moderation .
Make use of the profits to improve education , health / sanitation , smalll-scale farming and industry.Not a solution , but a relative improvement , for a while .
Specially if 10 or 20 years are spent really hammering into people 's brains that hating each other is wrong and stupid .
And counterproductive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isotope ratios - also known as 'signatures'.
Spectroscopy. And its sisters.Or, proactively, irradiate the mining region with a 'non-lethal' tagging dose.Put all mining operation under U.N. / African Union administration control and supervision - with local oversight and moderation.
Make use of the profits to improve education, health / sanitation, smalll-scale farming and industry.Not a solution, but a relative improvement, for a while.
Specially if 10 or 20 years are spent really hammering into people's brains that hating each other is wrong and stupid.
And counterproductive.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30184876</id>
	<title>Hate to be a grammar nazi..</title>
	<author>log0n</author>
	<datestamp>1258823100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously people, learn your grammatically-correct English!</p><p>"... to try and end<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..." should be "... to try to end<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...".  Try is the verb, 'try to' is the proper way of using said verb in a sentence.  Otherwise, you're combining the two on the same subject.</p><p>I'm going to try international trade of tungsten and end the international trade of tungsten.<br>OR<br>I'm going to try to end the international trade of tungsten.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously people , learn your grammatically-correct English ! " .. .
to try and end ... " should be " ... to try to end ... " .
Try is the verb , 'try to ' is the proper way of using said verb in a sentence .
Otherwise , you 're combining the two on the same subject.I 'm going to try international trade of tungsten and end the international trade of tungsten.ORI 'm going to try to end the international trade of tungsten .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously people, learn your grammatically-correct English!"...
to try and end ..." should be "... to try to end ...".
Try is the verb, 'try to' is the proper way of using said verb in a sentence.
Otherwise, you're combining the two on the same subject.I'm going to try international trade of tungsten and end the international trade of tungsten.ORI'm going to try to end the international trade of tungsten.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30183758</id>
	<title>Who cares about the Congo?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258813980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, once again the Democrats shoot the American economy in the foot.</p><p>We may not buy the stuff, but the Chinese will, or some other country, so there will be another set of expertise that we will lose, and they will gain.</p><p>To save a region, they destroyed their own country.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , once again the Democrats shoot the American economy in the foot.We may not buy the stuff , but the Chinese will , or some other country , so there will be another set of expertise that we will lose , and they will gain.To save a region , they destroyed their own country .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, once again the Democrats shoot the American economy in the foot.We may not buy the stuff, but the Chinese will, or some other country, so there will be another set of expertise that we will lose, and they will gain.To save a region, they destroyed their own country.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30184162</id>
	<title>Tin</title>
	<author>OldCrasher</author>
	<datestamp>1258818240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They want to ban tin. Tin goes in solder. Solder holds chips to circuit boards. Circuit boards have via's lined in tin to allow for complex circuit design. Ban tin and you make most of our tech industry dead overnight. Now I know there are people that want to return our world to the caves, and this may be a good step in that direction. But do all<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. readers really want themselves to be reduced to sending their comments in on Slates?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They want to ban tin .
Tin goes in solder .
Solder holds chips to circuit boards .
Circuit boards have via 's lined in tin to allow for complex circuit design .
Ban tin and you make most of our tech industry dead overnight .
Now I know there are people that want to return our world to the caves , and this may be a good step in that direction .
But do all / .
readers really want themselves to be reduced to sending their comments in on Slates ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They want to ban tin.
Tin goes in solder.
Solder holds chips to circuit boards.
Circuit boards have via's lined in tin to allow for complex circuit design.
Ban tin and you make most of our tech industry dead overnight.
Now I know there are people that want to return our world to the caves, and this may be a good step in that direction.
But do all /.
readers really want themselves to be reduced to sending their comments in on Slates?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30183934</id>
	<title>Re:No Surprise and years to late !</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258816380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>According to Wikipedia: "the Democratic Republic of the Congo produces a little less than 1\% of the world's tantalum (in 2006)".<br>Which makes this trade act look like a cover-up of where the other 99\% is coming from.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>According to Wikipedia : " the Democratic Republic of the Congo produces a little less than 1 \ % of the world 's tantalum ( in 2006 ) " .Which makes this trade act look like a cover-up of where the other 99 \ % is coming from .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to Wikipedia: "the Democratic Republic of the Congo produces a little less than 1\% of the world's tantalum (in 2006)".Which makes this trade act look like a cover-up of where the other 99\% is coming from.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30183734</id>
	<title>Doubt it will make much difference</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258813740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The US might care about "Conflict Minerals" but considering most electroincs are all "Made in China", it's hardly going to stop.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The US might care about " Conflict Minerals " but considering most electroincs are all " Made in China " , it 's hardly going to stop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The US might care about "Conflict Minerals" but considering most electroincs are all "Made in China", it's hardly going to stop.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30185920</id>
	<title>Re:Hardly surprising</title>
	<author>MindlessAutomata</author>
	<datestamp>1258829100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now, what do we do about the violent murder caused by certain first-world entities over oil?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now , what do we do about the violent murder caused by certain first-world entities over oil ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now, what do we do about the violent murder caused by certain first-world entities over oil?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30183864</id>
	<title>And t-shirts and jeans and shoes</title>
	<author>Colin Smith</author>
	<datestamp>1258815360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't see the problem. Humans have been preying on other humans since the first family split in two. You can get on as high a horse as you like, but all you're doing is adding hypocrisy and sanctimony to your list of character flaws.<br>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't see the problem .
Humans have been preying on other humans since the first family split in two .
You can get on as high a horse as you like , but all you 're doing is adding hypocrisy and sanctimony to your list of character flaws .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't see the problem.
Humans have been preying on other humans since the first family split in two.
You can get on as high a horse as you like, but all you're doing is adding hypocrisy and sanctimony to your list of character flaws.
 </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30185316</id>
	<title>tantalum caps</title>
	<author>badhack</author>
	<datestamp>1258825500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wonder what we will use in place of tantalum caps. Electrolytics don't have the lifespan and most other materials don't have a high enough CV.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder what we will use in place of tantalum caps .
Electrolytics do n't have the lifespan and most other materials do n't have a high enough CV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder what we will use in place of tantalum caps.
Electrolytics don't have the lifespan and most other materials don't have a high enough CV.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30185576</id>
	<title>Rape?</title>
	<author>SanityInAnarchy</author>
	<datestamp>1258827000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm sure I'm just a clueless American, ignorant of world affairs, so maybe someone better informed can tell me...</p><p>But how does this have anything at all to do with rape? The words "rape", "sex", "fuck", "sodomize", etc, don't appear at all in TFA. It seems to be about violence, not rape.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure I 'm just a clueless American , ignorant of world affairs , so maybe someone better informed can tell me...But how does this have anything at all to do with rape ?
The words " rape " , " sex " , " fuck " , " sodomize " , etc , do n't appear at all in TFA .
It seems to be about violence , not rape .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure I'm just a clueless American, ignorant of world affairs, so maybe someone better informed can tell me...But how does this have anything at all to do with rape?
The words "rape", "sex", "fuck", "sodomize", etc, don't appear at all in TFA.
It seems to be about violence, not rape.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30185934</id>
	<title>Re:Hardly surprising</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258829160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Read the summary again.  The companies mentioned "signed a statement of <i>support</i>."  That is, they are in favor of the Act.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Read the summary again .
The companies mentioned " signed a statement of support .
" That is , they are in favor of the Act .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Read the summary again.
The companies mentioned "signed a statement of support.
"  That is, they are in favor of the Act.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30184258</id>
	<title>mod 0p</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258819140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">to decline for niigerness?  And</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>to decline for niigerness ?
And [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>to decline for niigerness?
And [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30186656</id>
	<title>Re:Yeah this work like the Drug War</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258833660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The banning of these conflict minerals simply means that you'll leave former miners without jobs, and then they'll starve, as happened when we embargoed Iraq in the 90s, and Cuba over the last several decades.</p></div><p>You say that as if you think these miners go in and apply for jobs at their local mine. These are people enslaved by gangs of heavily armed thugs working for the local warlord/politician. Thinking of this in terms of people losing their jobs because our governments don't like the way their governments treat their neighbours is missing the point entirely.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The banning of these conflict minerals simply means that you 'll leave former miners without jobs , and then they 'll starve , as happened when we embargoed Iraq in the 90s , and Cuba over the last several decades.You say that as if you think these miners go in and apply for jobs at their local mine .
These are people enslaved by gangs of heavily armed thugs working for the local warlord/politician .
Thinking of this in terms of people losing their jobs because our governments do n't like the way their governments treat their neighbours is missing the point entirely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The banning of these conflict minerals simply means that you'll leave former miners without jobs, and then they'll starve, as happened when we embargoed Iraq in the 90s, and Cuba over the last several decades.You say that as if you think these miners go in and apply for jobs at their local mine.
These are people enslaved by gangs of heavily armed thugs working for the local warlord/politician.
Thinking of this in terms of people losing their jobs because our governments don't like the way their governments treat their neighbours is missing the point entirely.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30188336</id>
	<title>Re:Hardly surprising</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1258801380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Uuuum no. One could write your first sentence like this, and it would still be true:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Is this of any surprise that the <em>people</em> don&rsquo;t really care where their materials come from as long as they are getting what they want at a price they want?</p></div><p>Companies are that way, because people are that way.<br>I think nearly everybody already knows exactly, that nearly everything he buys, be it clothing, toys or food, is made that cheap through exploitation. Everybody knows this deep down. All the time.<br>But we repress it, to justify our nice lives. (Remember that there is a evolutionary reason why we learned to act that way.)</p><p>Public exposure won&rsquo;t change this. We will simply ignore it and invent excuses. That is how repression works. And it&rsquo;s just as smart as you are. Because it is you.</p><p>Repression is a hard thing to come by. Normally it closes down even more, when under pressure. (It just fights back harder.)<br>It&rsquo;s like forcing someone to love you... That won&rsquo;t ever work. ^^ (There, I spoiled it for you, Fritzl! ^^)<br>So you do the opposite, to make it open up. Like with those finger-traps, that hold firmer if you pull harder. (Sorry. Car analogies are out today.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)<br>I think you get the idea of what to do...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Uuuum no .
One could write your first sentence like this , and it would still be true : Is this of any surprise that the people don    t really care where their materials come from as long as they are getting what they want at a price they want ? Companies are that way , because people are that way.I think nearly everybody already knows exactly , that nearly everything he buys , be it clothing , toys or food , is made that cheap through exploitation .
Everybody knows this deep down .
All the time.But we repress it , to justify our nice lives .
( Remember that there is a evolutionary reason why we learned to act that way .
) Public exposure won    t change this .
We will simply ignore it and invent excuses .
That is how repression works .
And it    s just as smart as you are .
Because it is you.Repression is a hard thing to come by .
Normally it closes down even more , when under pressure .
( It just fights back harder .
) It    s like forcing someone to love you... That won    t ever work .
^ ^ ( There , I spoiled it for you , Fritzl !
^ ^ ) So you do the opposite , to make it open up .
Like with those finger-traps , that hold firmer if you pull harder .
( Sorry. Car analogies are out today .
; ) I think you get the idea of what to do.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uuuum no.
One could write your first sentence like this, and it would still be true:Is this of any surprise that the people don’t really care where their materials come from as long as they are getting what they want at a price they want?Companies are that way, because people are that way.I think nearly everybody already knows exactly, that nearly everything he buys, be it clothing, toys or food, is made that cheap through exploitation.
Everybody knows this deep down.
All the time.But we repress it, to justify our nice lives.
(Remember that there is a evolutionary reason why we learned to act that way.
)Public exposure won’t change this.
We will simply ignore it and invent excuses.
That is how repression works.
And it’s just as smart as you are.
Because it is you.Repression is a hard thing to come by.
Normally it closes down even more, when under pressure.
(It just fights back harder.
)It’s like forcing someone to love you... That won’t ever work.
^^ (There, I spoiled it for you, Fritzl!
^^)So you do the opposite, to make it open up.
Like with those finger-traps, that hold firmer if you pull harder.
(Sorry. Car analogies are out today.
;)I think you get the idea of what to do...
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30183766</id>
	<title>No Surprise and years to late !</title>
	<author>Rotorua</author>
	<datestamp>1258814040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is so DATED.... I work for a component manufacturer and NOBODY I repeat NOBODY has used anything from Congo for YEARS.....
All the big boys demand that we prove the source of our Col-tan and provide a certified route to source

Again this is the same as the Blood diamonds<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... years to late !!!

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<tokenext>This is so DATED.... I work for a component manufacturer and NOBODY I repeat NOBODY has used anything from Congo for YEARS.... . All the big boys demand that we prove the source of our Col-tan and provide a certified route to source Again this is the same as the Blood diamonds ... years to late ! ! !
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<sentencetext>This is so DATED.... I work for a component manufacturer and NOBODY I repeat NOBODY has used anything from Congo for YEARS.....
All the big boys demand that we prove the source of our Col-tan and provide a certified route to source

Again this is the same as the Blood diamonds ... years to late !!!
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30192034</id>
	<title>Re:No Surprise and years to late !</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1258885380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Right, and no one ships their 'environmentally friendly disposed electronics' to china to sit in an open land fill.</p><p>You can say it all day long, and I still won't believe it.  Certifications can be faked fairly easy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Right , and no one ships their 'environmentally friendly disposed electronics ' to china to sit in an open land fill.You can say it all day long , and I still wo n't believe it .
Certifications can be faked fairly easy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right, and no one ships their 'environmentally friendly disposed electronics' to china to sit in an open land fill.You can say it all day long, and I still won't believe it.
Certifications can be faked fairly easy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30184488</id>
	<title>Re:Just like diamonds and oil</title>
	<author>palmerj3</author>
	<datestamp>1258820940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm sure it be just like other conflict industries.  We will care about it just long enough until our next purchase.  The unwashed masses would buy products made of dead baby carcasses.</p></div><p>Probably not the best time to mention that I have a dead baby carcass bag full of tungsten</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure it be just like other conflict industries .
We will care about it just long enough until our next purchase .
The unwashed masses would buy products made of dead baby carcasses.Probably not the best time to mention that I have a dead baby carcass bag full of tungsten</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure it be just like other conflict industries.
We will care about it just long enough until our next purchase.
The unwashed masses would buy products made of dead baby carcasses.Probably not the best time to mention that I have a dead baby carcass bag full of tungsten
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30184184</id>
	<title>Niggers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258818480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just remember that Troll and Truth begin with the same sound.</p><p>No matter what materials you use, as long as niggers are involved, which has been scientificlly proven that niggers have higher rates of violence than real people. Just make areas with valueable materials nigger free zones, we could call it jim crow zones, or even something dutch sounding like apartheid and keep niggers in the jungles where they can only attack each other with bananas and sticks.</p><p>Remember, niggers like killing niggers, look at all the genocides in africa, which is higher than nazism and communism combinedl</p><p>So buy big diamonds and get your Core i7 32 nm processors made out of the best minerals, and say fuck the niggers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just remember that Troll and Truth begin with the same sound.No matter what materials you use , as long as niggers are involved , which has been scientificlly proven that niggers have higher rates of violence than real people .
Just make areas with valueable materials nigger free zones , we could call it jim crow zones , or even something dutch sounding like apartheid and keep niggers in the jungles where they can only attack each other with bananas and sticks.Remember , niggers like killing niggers , look at all the genocides in africa , which is higher than nazism and communism combinedlSo buy big diamonds and get your Core i7 32 nm processors made out of the best minerals , and say fuck the niggers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just remember that Troll and Truth begin with the same sound.No matter what materials you use, as long as niggers are involved, which has been scientificlly proven that niggers have higher rates of violence than real people.
Just make areas with valueable materials nigger free zones, we could call it jim crow zones, or even something dutch sounding like apartheid and keep niggers in the jungles where they can only attack each other with bananas and sticks.Remember, niggers like killing niggers, look at all the genocides in africa, which is higher than nazism and communism combinedlSo buy big diamonds and get your Core i7 32 nm processors made out of the best minerals, and say fuck the niggers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30186918</id>
	<title>The Gun Control Zealots...</title>
	<author>rally2xs</author>
	<datestamp>1258835340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>seem to have branched out into other areas, and are now blaming other inanimate objects, this time minerals, for human failings.</htmltext>
<tokenext>seem to have branched out into other areas , and are now blaming other inanimate objects , this time minerals , for human failings .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>seem to have branched out into other areas, and are now blaming other inanimate objects, this time minerals, for human failings.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30184296</id>
	<title>Verizon</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258819560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Verizon make electronics now?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Verizon make electronics now ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Verizon make electronics now?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30184740</id>
	<title>how 'bout RTFA?</title>
	<author>arielCo</author>
	<datestamp>1258822320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not at all about banning coltan, tungsten or tin.</p><p>

Quoth <a href="http://www.itic.org/news/2009/11/19/press-releases/high-tech-industry-applauds-rep.-mcdermott-s-effort-to-halt-trade-in-conflict-minerals/" title="itic.org">the corporate spinsters</a> [itic.org]:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The EICC and GeSI launched an effort in early 2009 to enhance transparency in the minerals supply chain and to better determine how these minerals flow from mines to final manufacturing.  This workgroup has engaged companies from all levels of the tantalum mining and processing industry to drive toward a solution that promotes the responsible sourcing of tantalum.</p></div><p>Quoth the <a href="http://www.house.gov/mcdermott/pr091119.shtml" title="house.gov">congress guy</a> [house.gov]:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>It commissions a map that will overlay areas of conflict with areas rich in mineral resources in the DRC, so refiners will know which mines are likely to fund conflict.  The bill also requires importers of potential conflict goods to certify whether or not their imports contain conflict minerals and the United States Trade Representative (USTR) will report to Congress and the public which companies are importing goods containing conflict minerals.</p></div><p>That said, it looks a lot like what they did about blood diamonds, including the same possibilities for laundering (as some AC noted above).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not at all about banning coltan , tungsten or tin .
Quoth the corporate spinsters [ itic.org ] : The EICC and GeSI launched an effort in early 2009 to enhance transparency in the minerals supply chain and to better determine how these minerals flow from mines to final manufacturing .
This workgroup has engaged companies from all levels of the tantalum mining and processing industry to drive toward a solution that promotes the responsible sourcing of tantalum.Quoth the congress guy [ house.gov ] : It commissions a map that will overlay areas of conflict with areas rich in mineral resources in the DRC , so refiners will know which mines are likely to fund conflict .
The bill also requires importers of potential conflict goods to certify whether or not their imports contain conflict minerals and the United States Trade Representative ( USTR ) will report to Congress and the public which companies are importing goods containing conflict minerals.That said , it looks a lot like what they did about blood diamonds , including the same possibilities for laundering ( as some AC noted above ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not at all about banning coltan, tungsten or tin.
Quoth the corporate spinsters [itic.org]:The EICC and GeSI launched an effort in early 2009 to enhance transparency in the minerals supply chain and to better determine how these minerals flow from mines to final manufacturing.
This workgroup has engaged companies from all levels of the tantalum mining and processing industry to drive toward a solution that promotes the responsible sourcing of tantalum.Quoth the congress guy [house.gov]:It commissions a map that will overlay areas of conflict with areas rich in mineral resources in the DRC, so refiners will know which mines are likely to fund conflict.
The bill also requires importers of potential conflict goods to certify whether or not their imports contain conflict minerals and the United States Trade Representative (USTR) will report to Congress and the public which companies are importing goods containing conflict minerals.That said, it looks a lot like what they did about blood diamonds, including the same possibilities for laundering (as some AC noted above).
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30185092</id>
	<title>Come on, man...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258824480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People come together to mine these minerals.  They have jobs (is this not a good thing?).  Said people then murder and/or rape other said people.who are also mining.  Why do we blame the companies who use these minerals?  Using this type kind of logic, should I, a Packer fan, no longer eat wild rice from Minnesota now that Brett Farve is a Viking?</p><p>I'm just saying....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People come together to mine these minerals .
They have jobs ( is this not a good thing ? ) .
Said people then murder and/or rape other said people.who are also mining .
Why do we blame the companies who use these minerals ?
Using this type kind of logic , should I , a Packer fan , no longer eat wild rice from Minnesota now that Brett Farve is a Viking ? I 'm just saying... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People come together to mine these minerals.
They have jobs (is this not a good thing?).
Said people then murder and/or rape other said people.who are also mining.
Why do we blame the companies who use these minerals?
Using this type kind of logic, should I, a Packer fan, no longer eat wild rice from Minnesota now that Brett Farve is a Viking?I'm just saying....</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30201982</id>
	<title>Re:Irony</title>
	<author>thickdiick</author>
	<datestamp>1258991580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They're also quick to use the death penalty, but that's not really that bad; they're not executing innocent fishermen, they're executing convicted criminals.</p></div><p>
I'm sure they got a fair trial. Even in the united states, there have been INNOCENT people put to DEATH. I don't think you fully comprehend that. INNOCENT PEOPLE killed by their OWN GOVERNMENT. You can, of course, imagine that they don't have the first-world court system we have.
<br>
Even with ad hominem being so overused, I, for one, would not mind to see your ignorant ass stand on trial in China.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're also quick to use the death penalty , but that 's not really that bad ; they 're not executing innocent fishermen , they 're executing convicted criminals .
I 'm sure they got a fair trial .
Even in the united states , there have been INNOCENT people put to DEATH .
I do n't think you fully comprehend that .
INNOCENT PEOPLE killed by their OWN GOVERNMENT .
You can , of course , imagine that they do n't have the first-world court system we have .
Even with ad hominem being so overused , I , for one , would not mind to see your ignorant ass stand on trial in China .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're also quick to use the death penalty, but that's not really that bad; they're not executing innocent fishermen, they're executing convicted criminals.
I'm sure they got a fair trial.
Even in the united states, there have been INNOCENT people put to DEATH.
I don't think you fully comprehend that.
INNOCENT PEOPLE killed by their OWN GOVERNMENT.
You can, of course, imagine that they don't have the first-world court system we have.
Even with ad hominem being so overused, I, for one, would not mind to see your ignorant ass stand on trial in China.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_0417223.30185824</id>
	<title>Re:Just like conflict diamonds?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258828500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"This will work just as well as all of those useless "conflict diamond" resolutions that have accomplished nothing more than forcing DeBeers to launder its African blood diamonds through its "mines" in Canada."</p><p>Insightful?  Maybe for the near futility of trying to determine if tantalum or tungsten comes from mines in the Congo after it has been refined, but for the supposedly analogous Canadian diamond mines: citation please!</p><p>Those are awfully <a href="http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&amp;ll=64.497712,-110.271835&amp;spn=0.059644,0.113811&amp;t=h&amp;z=13" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">big</a> [google.com] <a href="http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&amp;ll=64.722572,-110.608807&amp;spn=0.029576,0.056906&amp;t=h&amp;z=14" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">holes</a> [google.com] in the <a href="http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&amp;ll=64.567466,-110.186005&amp;spn=0.029746,0.056906&amp;t=h&amp;z=14" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">ground</a> [google.com] to be putting quotes around those Canadian "mines" without some justification.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" This will work just as well as all of those useless " conflict diamond " resolutions that have accomplished nothing more than forcing DeBeers to launder its African blood diamonds through its " mines " in Canada. " Insightful ?
Maybe for the near futility of trying to determine if tantalum or tungsten comes from mines in the Congo after it has been refined , but for the supposedly analogous Canadian diamond mines : citation please ! Those are awfully big [ google.com ] holes [ google.com ] in the ground [ google.com ] to be putting quotes around those Canadian " mines " without some justification .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"This will work just as well as all of those useless "conflict diamond" resolutions that have accomplished nothing more than forcing DeBeers to launder its African blood diamonds through its "mines" in Canada."Insightful?
Maybe for the near futility of trying to determine if tantalum or tungsten comes from mines in the Congo after it has been refined, but for the supposedly analogous Canadian diamond mines: citation please!Those are awfully big [google.com] holes [google.com] in the ground [google.com] to be putting quotes around those Canadian "mines" without some justification.</sentencetext>
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