<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_20_0542200</id>
	<title>Dark Energy, Life Searches Make Strange Bedfellows</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1258745760000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>eldavojohn writes <i>"Both the EU and US are using a strategy to <a href="http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/091119-am-dark-energy-life-universe.html">merge what used to be two separate searches</a>: the search for exoplanets that may harbor life and the search for dark energy.  In an effort to develop 'robust, low-risk missions that maximize the scientific return,' the article analyzes how, without any changes, a space-based dark energy telescope could also check for <a href="//science.slashdot.org/story/06/01/25/1845218/Microlensing-Uncovers-Earth-Like-Planet">microlensing events</a> indicating an exoplanet."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>eldavojohn writes " Both the EU and US are using a strategy to merge what used to be two separate searches : the search for exoplanets that may harbor life and the search for dark energy .
In an effort to develop 'robust , low-risk missions that maximize the scientific return, ' the article analyzes how , without any changes , a space-based dark energy telescope could also check for microlensing events indicating an exoplanet .
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<sentencetext>eldavojohn writes "Both the EU and US are using a strategy to merge what used to be two separate searches: the search for exoplanets that may harbor life and the search for dark energy.
In an effort to develop 'robust, low-risk missions that maximize the scientific return,' the article analyzes how, without any changes, a space-based dark energy telescope could also check for microlensing events indicating an exoplanet.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30169246</id>
	<title>Re:Not the EU, but Europe's Space Program!</title>
	<author>MistrX</author>
	<datestamp>1258712880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And there I was, thinking we had a complete moon for ourselves.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And there I was , thinking we had a complete moon for ourselves .
: (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And there I was, thinking we had a complete moon for ourselves.
:(</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30177956</id>
	<title>Who tagged this 'darklife'?</title>
	<author>GrumblyStuff</author>
	<datestamp>1258714020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now I gotta write about it on my Deadjournal after I cut myself!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now I got ta write about it on my Deadjournal after I cut myself !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now I gotta write about it on my Deadjournal after I cut myself!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30169098</id>
	<title>Re:So can any astronomers explain ...</title>
	<author>icebike</author>
	<datestamp>1258711200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I suspect you over estimate the amount of data being collected and how unsuitable some data may be for any other purpose.</p><p>Ignoring the obvious, that space is a huge space, you can hardly expect optical telescope sky scans used to detect, say, Kuiper belt objects in visible light to be suitable for detecting dark matter.  Quasar signals won't be useful to detect the slight wobble induced by a planet in a star's motion.</p><p>Everywhere you look on this planet there are cameras and cell phones and radios, seismographs and weather stations.<br>We have telescopes, space stations, and radio survey webs.</p><p>Yet we missed the asteroid that passed on November 9th till it was only 15 hours away.<br><a href="http://www.universetoday.com/2009/11/09/surprise-unknown-asteroid-buzzed-earth/" title="universetoday.com">http://www.universetoday.com/2009/11/09/surprise-unknown-asteroid-buzzed-earth/</a> [universetoday.com]</p><p>Just because you have data doesn't mean its useful for all purposes, or any other purpose that that for which it was collected.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suspect you over estimate the amount of data being collected and how unsuitable some data may be for any other purpose.Ignoring the obvious , that space is a huge space , you can hardly expect optical telescope sky scans used to detect , say , Kuiper belt objects in visible light to be suitable for detecting dark matter .
Quasar signals wo n't be useful to detect the slight wobble induced by a planet in a star 's motion.Everywhere you look on this planet there are cameras and cell phones and radios , seismographs and weather stations.We have telescopes , space stations , and radio survey webs.Yet we missed the asteroid that passed on November 9th till it was only 15 hours away.http : //www.universetoday.com/2009/11/09/surprise-unknown-asteroid-buzzed-earth/ [ universetoday.com ] Just because you have data does n't mean its useful for all purposes , or any other purpose that that for which it was collected .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suspect you over estimate the amount of data being collected and how unsuitable some data may be for any other purpose.Ignoring the obvious, that space is a huge space, you can hardly expect optical telescope sky scans used to detect, say, Kuiper belt objects in visible light to be suitable for detecting dark matter.
Quasar signals won't be useful to detect the slight wobble induced by a planet in a star's motion.Everywhere you look on this planet there are cameras and cell phones and radios, seismographs and weather stations.We have telescopes, space stations, and radio survey webs.Yet we missed the asteroid that passed on November 9th till it was only 15 hours away.http://www.universetoday.com/2009/11/09/surprise-unknown-asteroid-buzzed-earth/ [universetoday.com]Just because you have data doesn't mean its useful for all purposes, or any other purpose that that for which it was collected.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30171116</id>
	<title>Re:Not the EU, but Europe's Space Program!</title>
	<author>khallow</author>
	<datestamp>1258732680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The ESA isn't an official EU entity, but it is dominated by EU memberstates. That will give them control when the EU becomes a nation. I think the perception is merely premature.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The ESA is n't an official EU entity , but it is dominated by EU memberstates .
That will give them control when the EU becomes a nation .
I think the perception is merely premature .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The ESA isn't an official EU entity, but it is dominated by EU memberstates.
That will give them control when the EU becomes a nation.
I think the perception is merely premature.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30169554</id>
	<title>Re:Not the EU, but Europe's Space Program!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258717680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What kind of question is that? Don't you know that America was <b>that</b> close to get a vice-president that wouldn't be able to find the US on a map of Nort America? I think you need to adjust your expectations a bit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What kind of question is that ?
Do n't you know that America was that close to get a vice-president that would n't be able to find the US on a map of Nort America ?
I think you need to adjust your expectations a bit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What kind of question is that?
Don't you know that America was that close to get a vice-president that wouldn't be able to find the US on a map of Nort America?
I think you need to adjust your expectations a bit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30170496</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>smoker2</author>
	<datestamp>1258729380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Interestingly (to me anyway) I am currently reading Asimovs "Of Time and Space and Other Things" from 1968, where he posits that if the night sky were not dark, life would probably not have evolved. To be honest it wasn't his idea (and he doesn't claim it is). In 1826 a German scientist called Heinrich Wilhelm Matthias Olbers (b 1758), who also discovered the asteroids Pallas and Vesta, started an investigation which became known as Olbers Paradox.<br> <br>To briefly summarise the idea, if you take the estimated number of stars in the galaxy then add up all the light which they are emitting, there should be no dark night on earth, as the cumulative effect of 100s of million of stars would ensure a blinding sky, not to mention an amazing amount of heat. When you add to that the light from other galaxies, the situation becomes even more untenable for life. But trying to solve this paradox led Olbers and later Hubble to discover that stars and galaxies are not uniformly spread throughout the universe, and then to discover further that the universe is expanding and due to red shift, we never receive the energy from those most distant from us. Hence the dark skies. <br> <br>I did say it was a brief summary ! Interesting read, in a Connections type of way. And also shows how long these topics have been studied before the truth was known. Olbers didn't know what he was looking for, he just thought that the situation needed some thought. When he started, the existence of other galaxies wasn't known, let alone the size of the universe. Most of his work was theoretical as the technology to see the problem first hand didn't exist. Logic abounds in science !</htmltext>
<tokenext>Interestingly ( to me anyway ) I am currently reading Asimovs " Of Time and Space and Other Things " from 1968 , where he posits that if the night sky were not dark , life would probably not have evolved .
To be honest it was n't his idea ( and he does n't claim it is ) .
In 1826 a German scientist called Heinrich Wilhelm Matthias Olbers ( b 1758 ) , who also discovered the asteroids Pallas and Vesta , started an investigation which became known as Olbers Paradox .
To briefly summarise the idea , if you take the estimated number of stars in the galaxy then add up all the light which they are emitting , there should be no dark night on earth , as the cumulative effect of 100s of million of stars would ensure a blinding sky , not to mention an amazing amount of heat .
When you add to that the light from other galaxies , the situation becomes even more untenable for life .
But trying to solve this paradox led Olbers and later Hubble to discover that stars and galaxies are not uniformly spread throughout the universe , and then to discover further that the universe is expanding and due to red shift , we never receive the energy from those most distant from us .
Hence the dark skies .
I did say it was a brief summary !
Interesting read , in a Connections type of way .
And also shows how long these topics have been studied before the truth was known .
Olbers did n't know what he was looking for , he just thought that the situation needed some thought .
When he started , the existence of other galaxies was n't known , let alone the size of the universe .
Most of his work was theoretical as the technology to see the problem first hand did n't exist .
Logic abounds in science !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interestingly (to me anyway) I am currently reading Asimovs "Of Time and Space and Other Things" from 1968, where he posits that if the night sky were not dark, life would probably not have evolved.
To be honest it wasn't his idea (and he doesn't claim it is).
In 1826 a German scientist called Heinrich Wilhelm Matthias Olbers (b 1758), who also discovered the asteroids Pallas and Vesta, started an investigation which became known as Olbers Paradox.
To briefly summarise the idea, if you take the estimated number of stars in the galaxy then add up all the light which they are emitting, there should be no dark night on earth, as the cumulative effect of 100s of million of stars would ensure a blinding sky, not to mention an amazing amount of heat.
When you add to that the light from other galaxies, the situation becomes even more untenable for life.
But trying to solve this paradox led Olbers and later Hubble to discover that stars and galaxies are not uniformly spread throughout the universe, and then to discover further that the universe is expanding and due to red shift, we never receive the energy from those most distant from us.
Hence the dark skies.
I did say it was a brief summary !
Interesting read, in a Connections type of way.
And also shows how long these topics have been studied before the truth was known.
Olbers didn't know what he was looking for, he just thought that the situation needed some thought.
When he started, the existence of other galaxies wasn't known, let alone the size of the universe.
Most of his work was theoretical as the technology to see the problem first hand didn't exist.
Logic abounds in science !</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30169292</id>
	<title>Re:So can any astronomers explain ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258713540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's all about power, personal knowledge, honour, nationalism,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... whatever feeds their ego that they are doing a better job that the other guys.<br>If it was about making progress, they would have done this ages ago...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's all about power , personal knowledge , honour , nationalism , ... whatever feeds their ego that they are doing a better job that the other guys.If it was about making progress , they would have done this ages ago.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's all about power, personal knowledge, honour, nationalism, ... whatever feeds their ego that they are doing a better job that the other guys.If it was about making progress, they would have done this ages ago...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30168952</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30170202</id>
	<title>Re:I can't be...Christmas gifts,shoes,handbags,ugg</title>
	<author>coolforsale115</author>
	<datestamp>1258727280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.coolforsale.com/" title="coolforsale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coolforsale.com/</a> [coolforsale.com]   Christmas is around the corner: And old customers can also enjoy the gifts sent by my company in a can also request to our company. Gifts lot,Buy more get the moreOnly this site have this treatmentOur goal is "Best quality, Best reputation , Best services". Your satisfaction is our main pursue. You can find the best products from us, meeting your different needs. Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products . Pass by but don't miss it.Select your favorite clothing! Welcome to come next time ! Thank you! <a href="http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76" title="coolforsale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76</a> [coolforsale.com] [coolforsale.com] (Tracksuit w) ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket, Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33 Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35 Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&amp;g) $35 Tshirts (Polo<nobr> <wbr></nobr>,ed hardy,lacoste) $16 free shipping competitive price any size available accept the paypal Thanks</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.coolforsale.com/ [ coolforsale.com ] Christmas is around the corner : And old customers can also enjoy the gifts sent by my company in a can also request to our company .
Gifts lot,Buy more get the moreOnly this site have this treatmentOur goal is " Best quality , Best reputation , Best services " .
Your satisfaction is our main pursue .
You can find the best products from us , meeting your different needs .
Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products .
Pass by but do n't miss it.Select your favorite clothing !
Welcome to come next time !
Thank you !
http : //www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp ? id = s76 [ coolforsale.com ] [ coolforsale.com ] ( Tracksuit w ) ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket , Air jordan ( 1-24 ) shoes $ 33 Nike shox ( R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3 ) $ 35 Handbags ( Coach lv fendi d&amp;g ) $ 35 Tshirts ( Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste ) $ 16 free shipping competitive price any size available accept the paypal Thanks</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.coolforsale.com/ [coolforsale.com]   Christmas is around the corner: And old customers can also enjoy the gifts sent by my company in a can also request to our company.
Gifts lot,Buy more get the moreOnly this site have this treatmentOur goal is "Best quality, Best reputation , Best services".
Your satisfaction is our main pursue.
You can find the best products from us, meeting your different needs.
Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products .
Pass by but don't miss it.Select your favorite clothing!
Welcome to come next time !
Thank you!
http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76 [coolforsale.com] [coolforsale.com] (Tracksuit w) ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket, Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33 Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35 Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&amp;g) $35 Tshirts (Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste) $16 free shipping competitive price any size available accept the paypal Thanks</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30169000</id>
	<title>SETI</title>
	<author>Schiphol</author>
	<datestamp>1258709640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's a pity that they cannot smuggle SETI into the pack. Anyway, if I were a SETI researcher, I'd save some of my radiotelescope time to look into those exoplanets deemed as suitable for life by research such as this.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a pity that they can not smuggle SETI into the pack .
Anyway , if I were a SETI researcher , I 'd save some of my radiotelescope time to look into those exoplanets deemed as suitable for life by research such as this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a pity that they cannot smuggle SETI into the pack.
Anyway, if I were a SETI researcher, I'd save some of my radiotelescope time to look into those exoplanets deemed as suitable for life by research such as this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30169238</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258712820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That only applies if you are cursed or doomed. AFAICT the SETI program has been that for quite some time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That only applies if you are cursed or doomed .
AFAICT the SETI program has been that for quite some time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That only applies if you are cursed or doomed.
AFAICT the SETI program has been that for quite some time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30169388</id>
	<title>Get to Work!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258714920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's lots of data available, so get to work: http://www.us-vo.org/portalhome</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's lots of data available , so get to work : http : //www.us-vo.org/portalhome</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's lots of data available, so get to work: http://www.us-vo.org/portalhome</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30169082</id>
	<title>Re:So can any astronomers explain ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258711080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>... why this isn't obvious, and being done already?</p><p>From my layman's POV, it seems like we have telescopes all over the spectrum, from X-rays to long radio waves, constantly gathering enormous amounts of data which could easily be mined for dark energy detection, SETI, and just about anything else conceivable.  So while I think it's very cool that two such different applications can share data and techniques, I'd like to know what the reasons are that this doesn't just happen all the time.  Is it a reluctance to share data, differences in the type of data needed, or something else entirely?</p></div><p>I have  a huge number of programs on my hard drive for everything from web browsing and word processing to Java IDE's and hard disk defragmenting. Why can't I get by with just one program which can do everything?</p><p>Oh, wait, I just installed Emacs. Problem solved!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... why this is n't obvious , and being done already ? From my layman 's POV , it seems like we have telescopes all over the spectrum , from X-rays to long radio waves , constantly gathering enormous amounts of data which could easily be mined for dark energy detection , SETI , and just about anything else conceivable .
So while I think it 's very cool that two such different applications can share data and techniques , I 'd like to know what the reasons are that this does n't just happen all the time .
Is it a reluctance to share data , differences in the type of data needed , or something else entirely ? I have a huge number of programs on my hard drive for everything from web browsing and word processing to Java IDE 's and hard disk defragmenting .
Why ca n't I get by with just one program which can do everything ? Oh , wait , I just installed Emacs .
Problem solved !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... why this isn't obvious, and being done already?From my layman's POV, it seems like we have telescopes all over the spectrum, from X-rays to long radio waves, constantly gathering enormous amounts of data which could easily be mined for dark energy detection, SETI, and just about anything else conceivable.
So while I think it's very cool that two such different applications can share data and techniques, I'd like to know what the reasons are that this doesn't just happen all the time.
Is it a reluctance to share data, differences in the type of data needed, or something else entirely?I have  a huge number of programs on my hard drive for everything from web browsing and word processing to Java IDE's and hard disk defragmenting.
Why can't I get by with just one program which can do everything?Oh, wait, I just installed Emacs.
Problem solved!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30168996</id>
	<title>Re:So can any astronomers explain ...</title>
	<author>mwvdlee</author>
	<datestamp>1258709640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Possibly because these projects simply aren't aware of possible overlap and possibly because they need to have their own project running 24/7, simply without time left to share.</p><p>AFAIK, most satelites actually DO include "secondary" hardware for different research that piggy-backs along for the ride, but we're talking about having two "primary" purposes for a single device.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Possibly because these projects simply are n't aware of possible overlap and possibly because they need to have their own project running 24/7 , simply without time left to share.AFAIK , most satelites actually DO include " secondary " hardware for different research that piggy-backs along for the ride , but we 're talking about having two " primary " purposes for a single device .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Possibly because these projects simply aren't aware of possible overlap and possibly because they need to have their own project running 24/7, simply without time left to share.AFAIK, most satelites actually DO include "secondary" hardware for different research that piggy-backs along for the ride, but we're talking about having two "primary" purposes for a single device.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30171100</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1258732620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Only if you're female; I'm straight.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Only if you 're female ; I 'm straight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only if you're female; I'm straight.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30170106</id>
	<title>Have I got branes or what?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258726260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I say it's the strings.  As they decay they get more dimensions.  And the new dimensions give rise to mass and/or time.  It's their decay that fuels the expansion of the universe.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I say it 's the strings .
As they decay they get more dimensions .
And the new dimensions give rise to mass and/or time .
It 's their decay that fuels the expansion of the universe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I say it's the strings.
As they decay they get more dimensions.
And the new dimensions give rise to mass and/or time.
It's their decay that fuels the expansion of the universe.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30171754</id>
	<title>i found both:</title>
	<author>circletimessquare</author>
	<datestamp>1258735740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow\_(Babylon\_5)#Capital\_ship" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow\_(Babylon\_5)#Capital\_ship</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow \ _ ( Babylon \ _5 ) # Capital \ _ship [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow\_(Babylon\_5)#Capital\_ship [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30171936</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258736640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Researcher A: Oh Look! Hey! I found a world with life on it! And it's<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....it's... uh oh....</p><p>Researcher B: It's what?!</p><p>Researcher A: Nevermind, the planet just got eaten by a blob of dark energy, nothing to see here.</p><p>Researcher B: </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Researcher A : Oh Look !
Hey ! I found a world with life on it !
And it 's ....it 's... uh oh....Researcher B : It 's what ?
! Researcher A : Nevermind , the planet just got eaten by a blob of dark energy , nothing to see here.Researcher B :</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Researcher A: Oh Look!
Hey! I found a world with life on it!
And it's ....it's... uh oh....Researcher B: It's what?
!Researcher A: Nevermind, the planet just got eaten by a blob of dark energy, nothing to see here.Researcher B: </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30180250</id>
	<title>Re:So can any astronomers explain ...</title>
	<author>Trapezium Artist</author>
	<datestamp>1258724040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Well, I suspect this is a rather North American perspective. All data taken with the largest optical/IR observatory in the world, the European Southern Observatory's Very Large Telescope in Chile, are archived and are freely available to researchers after a (typically) 12 month proprietary period. This is true for observations made on site by the astronomers who proposed them (so-called "visitor mode") and for observations made by ESO staff on behalf of the successful proposer, saving them the need to travel ("service mode").

</p><p>
Yes, it costs money, and yes, it should really be built in from the outset, as the telescope and it's systems are developed, but it's entirely feasible. Quite how much use is made of such archives in general is another question, of course, although Hubble's is well-used.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I suspect this is a rather North American perspective .
All data taken with the largest optical/IR observatory in the world , the European Southern Observatory 's Very Large Telescope in Chile , are archived and are freely available to researchers after a ( typically ) 12 month proprietary period .
This is true for observations made on site by the astronomers who proposed them ( so-called " visitor mode " ) and for observations made by ESO staff on behalf of the successful proposer , saving them the need to travel ( " service mode " ) .
Yes , it costs money , and yes , it should really be built in from the outset , as the telescope and it 's systems are developed , but it 's entirely feasible .
Quite how much use is made of such archives in general is another question , of course , although Hubble 's is well-used .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Well, I suspect this is a rather North American perspective.
All data taken with the largest optical/IR observatory in the world, the European Southern Observatory's Very Large Telescope in Chile, are archived and are freely available to researchers after a (typically) 12 month proprietary period.
This is true for observations made on site by the astronomers who proposed them (so-called "visitor mode") and for observations made by ESO staff on behalf of the successful proposer, saving them the need to travel ("service mode").
Yes, it costs money, and yes, it should really be built in from the outset, as the telescope and it's systems are developed, but it's entirely feasible.
Quite how much use is made of such archives in general is another question, of course, although Hubble's is well-used.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30168838</id>
	<title>still easier to find that...</title>
	<author>Adolf Hitroll</author>
	<datestamp>1258749480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...intelligence in teh US of teh America.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...intelligence in teh US of teh America .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...intelligence in teh US of teh America.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30169022</id>
	<title>What?</title>
	<author>Zixaphir</author>
	<datestamp>1258710240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I know nothing about these two subjects. Dark Energy? Planet searching? Bahhh, it is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I know nothing about these two subjects .
Dark Energy ?
Planet searching ?
Bahhh , it is pitch black .
You are likely to be eaten by a grue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know nothing about these two subjects.
Dark Energy?
Planet searching?
Bahhh, it is pitch black.
You are likely to be eaten by a grue.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30170974</id>
	<title>Re:So can any astronomers explain ...</title>
	<author>rewfdytyiukfgherewre</author>
	<datestamp>1258732020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
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<tokenext>http : //www.coolforsale.com/ [ coolforsale.com ] Christmas is around the corner : And old customers can also enjoy the gifts sent by my company in a can also request to our company .
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You can find the best products from us , meeting your different needs .
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Gifts lot,Buy more get the moreOnly this site have this treatmentOur goal is "Best quality, Best reputation , Best services".
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You can find the best products from us, meeting your different needs.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30168920</id>
	<title>I can't be...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258707780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So this is what it feels like to be the first one to post?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So this is what it feels like to be the first one to post ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So this is what it feels like to be the first one to post?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30169020</id>
	<title>Dark Energy != Radiomagnetic Waves</title>
	<author>viraltus</author>
	<datestamp>1258710240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As far as I understand they account an unknown source of energy due to the accelerating rate of expansion of the universe. Telescope allow you to measure its effects, but not its nature.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As far as I understand they account an unknown source of energy due to the accelerating rate of expansion of the universe .
Telescope allow you to measure its effects , but not its nature .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As far as I understand they account an unknown source of energy due to the accelerating rate of expansion of the universe.
Telescope allow you to measure its effects, but not its nature.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30169896</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>BiggerIsBetter</author>
	<datestamp>1258723260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I know nothing about these two subjects. Dark Energy? Planet searching? Bahhh, it is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.</p></div><p>A grue? Pfft. I'd be more worried about Vin Diesel.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I know nothing about these two subjects .
Dark Energy ?
Planet searching ?
Bahhh , it is pitch black .
You are likely to be eaten by a grue.A grue ?
Pfft. I 'd be more worried about Vin Diesel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know nothing about these two subjects.
Dark Energy?
Planet searching?
Bahhh, it is pitch black.
You are likely to be eaten by a grue.A grue?
Pfft. I'd be more worried about Vin Diesel.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30169010</id>
	<title>Re:So can any astronomers explain ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258709880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We wished we had telescopes all over the spectrum, there is a lot of interference in many frequencies and I guess we are watching about 15\% max of the sky at any given minute.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We wished we had telescopes all over the spectrum , there is a lot of interference in many frequencies and I guess we are watching about 15 \ % max of the sky at any given minute .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We wished we had telescopes all over the spectrum, there is a lot of interference in many frequencies and I guess we are watching about 15\% max of the sky at any given minute.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30169504</id>
	<title>Re:So can any astronomers explain ...</title>
	<author>jandersen</author>
	<datestamp>1258716960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>... why this isn't obvious, and being done already?</p></div><p>I think you answer your own question: the enormous amounts of data involved - that, as well as the fact that they are using different and probably incompatible ways of storing the data. And that is just the technical side of the problem; someone has to translate the data into actual knowledge first, so we know what to combine; and we still don't have computers that can do that.</p><p>This has always been the problem in scientific research; an enormous amount of knowledge is being generated, and nobody can keep up with it, let alone combine widely different streams of knowledge.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... why this is n't obvious , and being done already ? I think you answer your own question : the enormous amounts of data involved - that , as well as the fact that they are using different and probably incompatible ways of storing the data .
And that is just the technical side of the problem ; someone has to translate the data into actual knowledge first , so we know what to combine ; and we still do n't have computers that can do that.This has always been the problem in scientific research ; an enormous amount of knowledge is being generated , and nobody can keep up with it , let alone combine widely different streams of knowledge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ... why this isn't obvious, and being done already?I think you answer your own question: the enormous amounts of data involved - that, as well as the fact that they are using different and probably incompatible ways of storing the data.
And that is just the technical side of the problem; someone has to translate the data into actual knowledge first, so we know what to combine; and we still don't have computers that can do that.This has always been the problem in scientific research; an enormous amount of knowledge is being generated, and nobody can keep up with it, let alone combine widely different streams of knowledge.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30169494</id>
	<title>Re:So can any astronomers explain ...</title>
	<author>dlevitan</author>
	<datestamp>1258716840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'd like to know what the reasons are that this doesn't just happen all the time.  Is it a reluctance to share data, differences in the type of data needed, or something else entirely?</p></div><p>Actually, it's primarily lack of funding to build archives and, therefore, lack of access to the data. I think most astronomers have no problem sharing data, as long as they're properly credited and the data is used for something other than the original use (i.e. detecting exoplanets instead of dark energy). There are, of course, differences in the optimum observing strategy and obviously you can't figure everything out from the same instrument/observation, but additional observations are always good and there are usually ways to use the data.</p><p>What most people probably don't know is that the majority of data from ground telescopes (except for a few roboticized telescopes) is kept only by the observer. Observations often yield something "weird", in which case the "standard" procedure is to ask colleagues if they know what the "weird" thing is. If no one has any clue, the data is often put aside for later analysis, and typically forgotten about. Everyone is guilty of it, but it is entirely possible that what is one person's trash is another's gold mine.</p><p>Amusingly enough, at the last AAS (American Astronomical Society) meeting, there was a grad student discussion session with some of the higher ups in AAS. One of the things we grad students were very much in favor of was an observation archive with exclusivity for the PI for 12-18 months (this is the standard for NASA space missions). The reason we were given that this would never happen is funding.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd like to know what the reasons are that this does n't just happen all the time .
Is it a reluctance to share data , differences in the type of data needed , or something else entirely ? Actually , it 's primarily lack of funding to build archives and , therefore , lack of access to the data .
I think most astronomers have no problem sharing data , as long as they 're properly credited and the data is used for something other than the original use ( i.e .
detecting exoplanets instead of dark energy ) .
There are , of course , differences in the optimum observing strategy and obviously you ca n't figure everything out from the same instrument/observation , but additional observations are always good and there are usually ways to use the data.What most people probably do n't know is that the majority of data from ground telescopes ( except for a few roboticized telescopes ) is kept only by the observer .
Observations often yield something " weird " , in which case the " standard " procedure is to ask colleagues if they know what the " weird " thing is .
If no one has any clue , the data is often put aside for later analysis , and typically forgotten about .
Everyone is guilty of it , but it is entirely possible that what is one person 's trash is another 's gold mine.Amusingly enough , at the last AAS ( American Astronomical Society ) meeting , there was a grad student discussion session with some of the higher ups in AAS .
One of the things we grad students were very much in favor of was an observation archive with exclusivity for the PI for 12-18 months ( this is the standard for NASA space missions ) .
The reason we were given that this would never happen is funding .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd like to know what the reasons are that this doesn't just happen all the time.
Is it a reluctance to share data, differences in the type of data needed, or something else entirely?Actually, it's primarily lack of funding to build archives and, therefore, lack of access to the data.
I think most astronomers have no problem sharing data, as long as they're properly credited and the data is used for something other than the original use (i.e.
detecting exoplanets instead of dark energy).
There are, of course, differences in the optimum observing strategy and obviously you can't figure everything out from the same instrument/observation, but additional observations are always good and there are usually ways to use the data.What most people probably don't know is that the majority of data from ground telescopes (except for a few roboticized telescopes) is kept only by the observer.
Observations often yield something "weird", in which case the "standard" procedure is to ask colleagues if they know what the "weird" thing is.
If no one has any clue, the data is often put aside for later analysis, and typically forgotten about.
Everyone is guilty of it, but it is entirely possible that what is one person's trash is another's gold mine.Amusingly enough, at the last AAS (American Astronomical Society) meeting, there was a grad student discussion session with some of the higher ups in AAS.
One of the things we grad students were very much in favor of was an observation archive with exclusivity for the PI for 12-18 months (this is the standard for NASA space missions).
The reason we were given that this would never happen is funding.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30169088</id>
	<title>Not the EU, but Europe's Space Program!</title>
	<author>andersh</author>
	<datestamp>1258711140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The European Space Agency is NOT a part of the EU. When will people learn that the EU is NOT synonymous with Europe!?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The European Space Agency is NOT a part of the EU .
When will people learn that the EU is NOT synonymous with Europe !
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The European Space Agency is NOT a part of the EU.
When will people learn that the EU is NOT synonymous with Europe!
?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30169914</id>
	<title>Some background information</title>
	<author>Trapezium Artist</author>
	<datestamp>1258723560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
As already pointed out, the European project (Euclid) in question is being studied by the European Space Agency, not the EU: these are simply not synonymous.

</p><p>
Euclid is one of six missions currently under study for two so-called M-class mission slots within the first round of ESA's Cosmic Vision programme. The first two-year long study phase is over now and the results will be made public at a meeting in Paris on December 1, prior to ESA's scientific advisory working groups and committees coming up with a prioritised list of the top four (most likely) missions to go forward into a competitive definition phase for a further two years. At the end of that, there will be a final downselect to (nominally) two missions for actual implementation and launch in roughly 2018-2019.

</p><p>
So, don't be surprised if you start seeing more of these stories in the coming days and weeks, as the various mission proponents start jockeying for position ahead of the first downselect<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)

</p><p>
[FYI, the full set of M-mission studies currently running are (in alphabetical order): Cross-Scale (solar plasma physics), Euclid (dark energy), Marco Polo (asteroid sample return), PLATO (exoplanet discovery and asteroseismology), Solar Orbiter (detailed solar science close to Sun), and SPICA (far-infrared astronomy).]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As already pointed out , the European project ( Euclid ) in question is being studied by the European Space Agency , not the EU : these are simply not synonymous .
Euclid is one of six missions currently under study for two so-called M-class mission slots within the first round of ESA 's Cosmic Vision programme .
The first two-year long study phase is over now and the results will be made public at a meeting in Paris on December 1 , prior to ESA 's scientific advisory working groups and committees coming up with a prioritised list of the top four ( most likely ) missions to go forward into a competitive definition phase for a further two years .
At the end of that , there will be a final downselect to ( nominally ) two missions for actual implementation and launch in roughly 2018-2019 .
So , do n't be surprised if you start seeing more of these stories in the coming days and weeks , as the various mission proponents start jockeying for position ahead of the first downselect : - ) [ FYI , the full set of M-mission studies currently running are ( in alphabetical order ) : Cross-Scale ( solar plasma physics ) , Euclid ( dark energy ) , Marco Polo ( asteroid sample return ) , PLATO ( exoplanet discovery and asteroseismology ) , Solar Orbiter ( detailed solar science close to Sun ) , and SPICA ( far-infrared astronomy ) .
]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
As already pointed out, the European project (Euclid) in question is being studied by the European Space Agency, not the EU: these are simply not synonymous.
Euclid is one of six missions currently under study for two so-called M-class mission slots within the first round of ESA's Cosmic Vision programme.
The first two-year long study phase is over now and the results will be made public at a meeting in Paris on December 1, prior to ESA's scientific advisory working groups and committees coming up with a prioritised list of the top four (most likely) missions to go forward into a competitive definition phase for a further two years.
At the end of that, there will be a final downselect to (nominally) two missions for actual implementation and launch in roughly 2018-2019.
So, don't be surprised if you start seeing more of these stories in the coming days and weeks, as the various mission proponents start jockeying for position ahead of the first downselect :-)


[FYI, the full set of M-mission studies currently running are (in alphabetical order): Cross-Scale (solar plasma physics), Euclid (dark energy), Marco Polo (asteroid sample return), PLATO (exoplanet discovery and asteroseismology), Solar Orbiter (detailed solar science close to Sun), and SPICA (far-infrared astronomy).
]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30169136</id>
	<title>Re:So can any astronomers explain ...</title>
	<author>Sulphur</author>
	<datestamp>1258711740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Like a reusable space vehicle.</p><p>--</p><p>Beaten up and left for dead by an imaginary extra terestrial friend.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Like a reusable space vehicle.--Beaten up and left for dead by an imaginary extra terestrial friend .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like a reusable space vehicle.--Beaten up and left for dead by an imaginary extra terestrial friend.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30169194</id>
	<title>Dark energy?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258712340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wake me up when they start talking about plaid energy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wake me up when they start talking about plaid energy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wake me up when they start talking about plaid energy.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30169260</id>
	<title>Re:So can any astronomers explain ...</title>
	<author>wylf</author>
	<datestamp>1258713000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>meh, bring on the smell-o-scope i say. it's got your et life right there.<br> <br>

and what does dark matter smell like? why, burnt toast of course.</htmltext>
<tokenext>meh , bring on the smell-o-scope i say .
it 's got your et life right there .
and what does dark matter smell like ?
why , burnt toast of course .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>meh, bring on the smell-o-scope i say.
it's got your et life right there.
and what does dark matter smell like?
why, burnt toast of course.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30244510</id>
	<title>Re:Not the EU, but Europe's Space Program!</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1259326380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What? Bush could find the USA on a map of North America? Wow. Seems he was not as dumb as he looked... or spoke... or just about everything...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What ?
Bush could find the USA on a map of North America ?
Wow. Seems he was not as dumb as he looked... or spoke... or just about everything... ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What?
Bush could find the USA on a map of North America?
Wow. Seems he was not as dumb as he looked... or spoke... or just about everything... ;)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30170816</id>
	<title>Re:So can any astronomers explain ...</title>
	<author>crgrace</author>
	<datestamp>1258731240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One issue is how deeply you have to look into space to get a large number of supernovae in your field of vision.  Generally, the integration time to image a supernova is extraordinarily large.  The radio telescopes famous for SETI experiments are non-directional, therefore they cannot find supernova.  You have to look at a specific region of space and look HARD to find them.  That is why various space missions are proposed to find supernova in a sky survey, then look at them hard once they're found.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One issue is how deeply you have to look into space to get a large number of supernovae in your field of vision .
Generally , the integration time to image a supernova is extraordinarily large .
The radio telescopes famous for SETI experiments are non-directional , therefore they can not find supernova .
You have to look at a specific region of space and look HARD to find them .
That is why various space missions are proposed to find supernova in a sky survey , then look at them hard once they 're found .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One issue is how deeply you have to look into space to get a large number of supernovae in your field of vision.
Generally, the integration time to image a supernova is extraordinarily large.
The radio telescopes famous for SETI experiments are non-directional, therefore they cannot find supernova.
You have to look at a specific region of space and look HARD to find them.
That is why various space missions are proposed to find supernova in a sky survey, then look at them hard once they're found.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30176506</id>
	<title>Re:Not the EU, but Europe's Space Program!</title>
	<author>steelfood</author>
	<datestamp>1258709160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Leave Joe Lieberman alone!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Leave Joe Lieberman alone !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Leave Joe Lieberman alone!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30177888</id>
	<title>Re:So can any astronomers explain ...</title>
	<author>deprecated</author>
	<datestamp>1258713780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This phenomenon is in no way unique to astronomy. Or even science. Or new. It happens to all data and it always has. (Cuneiform anyone?)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This phenomenon is in no way unique to astronomy .
Or even science .
Or new .
It happens to all data and it always has .
( Cuneiform anyone ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This phenomenon is in no way unique to astronomy.
Or even science.
Or new.
It happens to all data and it always has.
(Cuneiform anyone?
)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30169008</id>
	<title>SETI</title>
	<author>Schiphol</author>
	<datestamp>1258709820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's a pity that they cannot smuggle SETI into the pack. Anyway, if I was a SETI researcher I'd save some of my radiotelescope time to look into the region of space occupied by exoplanets deemed suitable for life by research such as this.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a pity that they can not smuggle SETI into the pack .
Anyway , if I was a SETI researcher I 'd save some of my radiotelescope time to look into the region of space occupied by exoplanets deemed suitable for life by research such as this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a pity that they cannot smuggle SETI into the pack.
Anyway, if I was a SETI researcher I'd save some of my radiotelescope time to look into the region of space occupied by exoplanets deemed suitable for life by research such as this.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30168952</id>
	<title>So can any astronomers explain ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258708320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... why this isn't obvious, and being done already?</p><p>From my layman's POV, it seems like we have telescopes all over the spectrum, from X-rays to long radio waves, constantly gathering enormous amounts of data which could easily be mined for dark energy detection, SETI, and just about anything else conceivable.  So while I think it's very cool that two such different applications can share data and techniques, I'd like to know what the reasons are that this doesn't just happen all the time.  Is it a reluctance to share data, differences in the type of data needed, or something else entirely?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... why this is n't obvious , and being done already ? From my layman 's POV , it seems like we have telescopes all over the spectrum , from X-rays to long radio waves , constantly gathering enormous amounts of data which could easily be mined for dark energy detection , SETI , and just about anything else conceivable .
So while I think it 's very cool that two such different applications can share data and techniques , I 'd like to know what the reasons are that this does n't just happen all the time .
Is it a reluctance to share data , differences in the type of data needed , or something else entirely ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... why this isn't obvious, and being done already?From my layman's POV, it seems like we have telescopes all over the spectrum, from X-rays to long radio waves, constantly gathering enormous amounts of data which could easily be mined for dark energy detection, SETI, and just about anything else conceivable.
So while I think it's very cool that two such different applications can share data and techniques, I'd like to know what the reasons are that this doesn't just happen all the time.
Is it a reluctance to share data, differences in the type of data needed, or something else entirely?</sentencetext>
</comment>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_0542200.30170090</id>
	<title>Re:I can't be...Christmas gifts,shoes,handbags,ugg</title>
	<author>coolforsale115</author>
	<datestamp>1258726020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
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http : //www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp ? id = s76 [ coolforsale.com ] [ coolforsale.com ] ( Tracksuit w ) ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket , Air jordan ( 1-24 ) shoes $ 33 Nike shox ( R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3 ) $ 35 Handbags ( Coach lv fendi d&amp;g ) $ 35 Tshirts ( Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste ) $ 16 free shipping competitive price any size available accept the paypal Thanks</tokentext>
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