<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_17_1637212</id>
	<title>Alternative Mobile Browsers Tested For Speed, Usability, JavaScript Rendering</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1258477200000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>CNETNate writes <i>"Do Opera Mobile, Skyfire, or Mozilla's Fennec have the power to take down the BlackBerry browser, IE on Windows Mobile, or Safari on the iPhone? <a href="http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/0,39029453,49304091,00.htm">This lengthy test aimed to find out</a>. Speed, Acid3 compliance, JavaScript rendering capabilities, and general subjective usability were all tested and reviewed. So were Opera Mini and the default Symbian browser, but these two were unable to complete some of the tests and benchmarks."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>CNETNate writes " Do Opera Mobile , Skyfire , or Mozilla 's Fennec have the power to take down the BlackBerry browser , IE on Windows Mobile , or Safari on the iPhone ?
This lengthy test aimed to find out .
Speed , Acid3 compliance , JavaScript rendering capabilities , and general subjective usability were all tested and reviewed .
So were Opera Mini and the default Symbian browser , but these two were unable to complete some of the tests and benchmarks .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CNETNate writes "Do Opera Mobile, Skyfire, or Mozilla's Fennec have the power to take down the BlackBerry browser, IE on Windows Mobile, or Safari on the iPhone?
This lengthy test aimed to find out.
Speed, Acid3 compliance, JavaScript rendering capabilities, and general subjective usability were all tested and reviewed.
So were Opera Mini and the default Symbian browser, but these two were unable to complete some of the tests and benchmarks.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30131772</id>
	<title>Actually, this is brilliant</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258485480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The real test is how fast you can get through their article on a mobile phone.  Consider this a distributed browser speed test.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The real test is how fast you can get through their article on a mobile phone .
Consider this a distributed browser speed test .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The real test is how fast you can get through their article on a mobile phone.
Consider this a distributed browser speed test.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130712</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130624</id>
	<title>Save yourself some time. The answer is "No."</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258480920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't bother reading the article. The answer in the end is "No."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't bother reading the article .
The answer in the end is " No .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't bother reading the article.
The answer in the end is "No.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30131440</id>
	<title>Article conclusion - summary</title>
	<author>BForrester</author>
	<datestamp>1258484400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can debate the validity of the data, but to save you from wading through nine pages of ads, listed here roughly in order of speed:  Browser - Javascript - compliance</p><p>Fennec - 11391ms - 93/100<br>SkyFire - 14659ms - 52/100<br>Safari - 15499ms - 100/100<br>Opera Mobile - 40249ms - 100/100<br>IE - 74537ms - 5/100<br>Blackberry - DNF - 13/100</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can debate the validity of the data , but to save you from wading through nine pages of ads , listed here roughly in order of speed : Browser - Javascript - complianceFennec - 11391ms - 93/100SkyFire - 14659ms - 52/100Safari - 15499ms - 100/100Opera Mobile - 40249ms - 100/100IE - 74537ms - 5/100Blackberry - DNF - 13/100</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can debate the validity of the data, but to save you from wading through nine pages of ads, listed here roughly in order of speed:  Browser - Javascript - complianceFennec - 11391ms - 93/100SkyFire - 14659ms - 52/100Safari - 15499ms - 100/100Opera Mobile - 40249ms - 100/100IE - 74537ms - 5/100Blackberry - DNF - 13/100</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30152996</id>
	<title>Re:Great slashvertisement</title>
	<author>badkarmadayaccount</author>
	<datestamp>1257096840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>TidyRead FTW!</htmltext>
<tokenext>TidyRead FTW !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TidyRead FTW!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130884</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30131820</id>
	<title>Um, what?</title>
	<author>thePowerOfGrayskull</author>
	<datestamp>1258485600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>FTFA:<p><div class="quote"><p>The challengers
</p><p>
Skyfire (Windows Mobile, Symbian S60)<br>
Opera Mobile (Windows Mobile, Symbian S60)<br>
Fennec (Windows Mobile, Maemo)</p><p>
The incumbents
</p><p>
Safari (iPhone)<br>
Internet Explorer (Windows Mobile)<br>
BlackBerry browser (BlackBerry)</p></div><p>So... for "incumbent" we have three platforms. For "challengers" we also have three platforms -- but only one of them is shared with "incumbents".  How are the results of that execution on Symbian at all relevant to BB or iPhone users?
</p><p>Unless they're saying that rendering, javascript, at al will behave identically from platform to platform -- which I find a bit hard to swallow.  If they're going to perform tests, they should be meaningful ones - the only meaningful comparison here are the windows mobile comparisons, because those are the only ones on the same platform.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>FTFA : The challengers Skyfire ( Windows Mobile , Symbian S60 ) Opera Mobile ( Windows Mobile , Symbian S60 ) Fennec ( Windows Mobile , Maemo ) The incumbents Safari ( iPhone ) Internet Explorer ( Windows Mobile ) BlackBerry browser ( BlackBerry ) So... for " incumbent " we have three platforms .
For " challengers " we also have three platforms -- but only one of them is shared with " incumbents " .
How are the results of that execution on Symbian at all relevant to BB or iPhone users ?
Unless they 're saying that rendering , javascript , at al will behave identically from platform to platform -- which I find a bit hard to swallow .
If they 're going to perform tests , they should be meaningful ones - the only meaningful comparison here are the windows mobile comparisons , because those are the only ones on the same platform .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FTFA:The challengers

Skyfire (Windows Mobile, Symbian S60)
Opera Mobile (Windows Mobile, Symbian S60)
Fennec (Windows Mobile, Maemo)
The incumbents

Safari (iPhone)
Internet Explorer (Windows Mobile)
BlackBerry browser (BlackBerry)So... for "incumbent" we have three platforms.
For "challengers" we also have three platforms -- but only one of them is shared with "incumbents".
How are the results of that execution on Symbian at all relevant to BB or iPhone users?
Unless they're saying that rendering, javascript, at al will behave identically from platform to platform -- which I find a bit hard to swallow.
If they're going to perform tests, they should be meaningful ones - the only meaningful comparison here are the windows mobile comparisons, because those are the only ones on the same platform.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30134196</id>
	<title>Re:Great slashvertisement</title>
	<author>HenryKoren</author>
	<datestamp>1258450320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Reading comprehension fail:</p><p>"As on our desktop browser tests, we tested standards compliance with the Acid3 test, and JavaScript-rendering abilities with the SunSpider JavaScript benchmark."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Reading comprehension fail : " As on our desktop browser tests , we tested standards compliance with the Acid3 test , and JavaScript-rendering abilities with the SunSpider JavaScript benchmark .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reading comprehension fail:"As on our desktop browser tests, we tested standards compliance with the Acid3 test, and JavaScript-rendering abilities with the SunSpider JavaScript benchmark.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130712</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130712</id>
	<title>Great slashvertisement</title>
	<author>A Friendly Troll</author>
	<datestamp>1258481400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><b>CNET</b>Nate writes about a test on CNET's site which isn't a test at all. They have tried several browsers, described them in two to three paragraphs each, and measured JavaScript execution speed with the help of a nameless benchmark. Not even a mention of which sites were used for testing.</p><p>Great job!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>CNETNate writes about a test on CNET 's site which is n't a test at all .
They have tried several browsers , described them in two to three paragraphs each , and measured JavaScript execution speed with the help of a nameless benchmark .
Not even a mention of which sites were used for testing.Great job !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CNETNate writes about a test on CNET's site which isn't a test at all.
They have tried several browsers, described them in two to three paragraphs each, and measured JavaScript execution speed with the help of a nameless benchmark.
Not even a mention of which sites were used for testing.Great job!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30132396</id>
	<title>Re:Anything beats Safari on iPhone</title>
	<author>dgatwood</author>
	<datestamp>1258487400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>You can't even load a CA signing cert, or permanently accept a specific cert.</p></div></blockquote><p>Sure you can.  To add a custom CA cert, just make a link to it and have the user explicitly touch that link.  Make sure the MIME type for the reply is <tt>application/x-x509-ca-cert</tt>.  Try it and if it doesn't work, shout, but it should.</p><p>I'd imagine the same thing will work for a site cert, only with a different MIME type, but I'm not certain.  Either way, given that StartCom issues free basic SSL certificates, the only sane reason to use a self-signed cert is for doing over-the-air enrollment with SCEP.  For everything else, you should just spend five minutes at <a href="http://www.startssl.com/" title="startssl.com">http://www.startssl.com/</a> [startssl.com] and create yourself a real SSL cert.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You ca n't even load a CA signing cert , or permanently accept a specific cert.Sure you can .
To add a custom CA cert , just make a link to it and have the user explicitly touch that link .
Make sure the MIME type for the reply is application/x-x509-ca-cert .
Try it and if it does n't work , shout , but it should.I 'd imagine the same thing will work for a site cert , only with a different MIME type , but I 'm not certain .
Either way , given that StartCom issues free basic SSL certificates , the only sane reason to use a self-signed cert is for doing over-the-air enrollment with SCEP .
For everything else , you should just spend five minutes at http : //www.startssl.com/ [ startssl.com ] and create yourself a real SSL cert .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can't even load a CA signing cert, or permanently accept a specific cert.Sure you can.
To add a custom CA cert, just make a link to it and have the user explicitly touch that link.
Make sure the MIME type for the reply is application/x-x509-ca-cert.
Try it and if it doesn't work, shout, but it should.I'd imagine the same thing will work for a site cert, only with a different MIME type, but I'm not certain.
Either way, given that StartCom issues free basic SSL certificates, the only sane reason to use a self-signed cert is for doing over-the-air enrollment with SCEP.
For everything else, you should just spend five minutes at http://www.startssl.com/ [startssl.com] and create yourself a real SSL cert.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30131058</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130706</id>
	<title>Andriod Browser</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258481340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>???</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>??
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130978</id>
	<title>Re:Wrong.</title>
	<author>Boap</author>
	<datestamp>1258482600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am using bolt on my blackberry.  It works just fine for me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am using bolt on my blackberry .
It works just fine for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am using bolt on my blackberry.
It works just fine for me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130730</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30131758</id>
	<title>Uh.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258485420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Default browser and Dolphin on Android?  No?  FLAIL</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Default browser and Dolphin on Android ?
No ? FLAIL</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Default browser and Dolphin on Android?
No?  FLAIL</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30140470</id>
	<title>cheap phones</title>
	<author>zogger</author>
	<datestamp>1258486380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The testers didn't like opera mini, but on non smart phones it rocks, internet browsing becomes mostly doable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The testers did n't like opera mini , but on non smart phones it rocks , internet browsing becomes mostly doable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The testers didn't like opera mini, but on non smart phones it rocks, internet browsing becomes mostly doable.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30137114</id>
	<title>Droid gets a 93 with the default browser.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258461180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm pleasantly surprised.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm pleasantly surprised .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm pleasantly surprised.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130948</id>
	<title>Re:Wrong.</title>
	<author>Jmechy</author>
	<datestamp>1258482480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You are referring to Opera Mini.  Opera has not released Opera Mobile for the blackberry platform, and it doesn't appear that they have plans to.
It's a shame they didn't include Opera Mini in the tests here, it runs on a very large variety of phones since its a Java app.  I've been playing with the beta of version 5 and have been quite pleased.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You are referring to Opera Mini .
Opera has not released Opera Mobile for the blackberry platform , and it does n't appear that they have plans to .
It 's a shame they did n't include Opera Mini in the tests here , it runs on a very large variety of phones since its a Java app .
I 've been playing with the beta of version 5 and have been quite pleased .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are referring to Opera Mini.
Opera has not released Opera Mobile for the blackberry platform, and it doesn't appear that they have plans to.
It's a shame they didn't include Opera Mini in the tests here, it runs on a very large variety of phones since its a Java app.
I've been playing with the beta of version 5 and have been quite pleased.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130730</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30132292</id>
	<title>Re:Anything beats Safari on iPhone</title>
	<author>jeaton</author>
	<datestamp>1258487100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You can't even load a CA signing cert</p></div><p>Sure you can.  I imported my employer's CA certificate, and I have no problems using Safari on the iPhone with websites using certificates from that CA.</p><p>I used the iPhone Configuration Utility to create a "profile" containing the certificate, which makes it easier to install, but it's just some XML wrapping around the certificate.  There are examples around that show how to do it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You ca n't even load a CA signing certSure you can .
I imported my employer 's CA certificate , and I have no problems using Safari on the iPhone with websites using certificates from that CA.I used the iPhone Configuration Utility to create a " profile " containing the certificate , which makes it easier to install , but it 's just some XML wrapping around the certificate .
There are examples around that show how to do it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can't even load a CA signing certSure you can.
I imported my employer's CA certificate, and I have no problems using Safari on the iPhone with websites using certificates from that CA.I used the iPhone Configuration Utility to create a "profile" containing the certificate, which makes it easier to install, but it's just some XML wrapping around the certificate.
There are examples around that show how to do it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30131058</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30131494</id>
	<title>Summary of article...</title>
	<author>mamer-retrogamer</author>
	<datestamp>1258484580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><tt>Browser&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;OS&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Version Tested&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Javascript Benchmark&nbsp; Acid3 Result&nbsp; Flash<br>-------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;--&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; --------------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; --------------------&nbsp; ------------&nbsp; -----<br>Skyfire&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Windows Mobile and Symbian S60&nbsp; 1.1.0.12052 on WinMo&nbsp; 14,659 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 52/100&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Yes<br>Opera Mobile&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Windows Mobile and Symbian S60&nbsp; 9.7 beta&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 40,249.20 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 100/100&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; No<br>Fennec&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Windows Mobile or Maemo&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;1.0a3 on WinMo&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 11,391.20 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;93/100&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; No<br>Safari&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; iPhone&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; OS version 3.1.2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 15,499.20 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 100/100&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; No<br>Internet Explorer&nbsp; &nbsp;Windows Mobile&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;74,537.60 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5/100&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Yes<br>BlackBerry browser&nbsp; BlackBerry&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; OS version 4.6.1.199&nbsp; Did not finish&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;13/100&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; No<br><br>[Skyfire]: Uses server to render pages. Web sites looked accurate but heavily compressed. Flash videos jerky, out of sync and will not open in full screen.<br>[Opera Mobile]: Can easily open multiple pages and switch between them.<br>[Fennec] (a.k.a Firefox Mobile): Slick interface. Fastest at loading complex pages. Clearly a pre-release product.<br>[Safari]: Multiple pages won't load simultaneously. User interface is serene and easy to use.<br>[Internet Explorer]: Slowest overall browser. Handled Flash the best of those tested. Flash videos can be opened full screen but become jerky and out of sync.<br>[BlackBerry browser]: Browser doesn't come close to a full Web experience. Slowest at loading complex pages.</tt></htmltext>
<tokenext>Browser               OS                               Version Tested         Javascript Benchmark   Acid3 Result   Flash-------               --                               --------------         --------------------   ------------   -----Skyfire               Windows Mobile and Symbian S60   1.1.0.12052 on WinMo   14,659 ms               52/100         YesOpera Mobile         Windows Mobile and Symbian S60   9.7 beta               40,249.20 ms           100/100         NoFennec               Windows Mobile or Maemo           1.0a3 on WinMo         11,391.20 ms             93/100         NoSafari               iPhone                           OS version 3.1.2       15,499.20 ms           100/100         NoInternet Explorer     Windows Mobile                   7                       74,537.60 ms             5/100         YesBlackBerry browser   BlackBerry                       OS version 4.6.1.199   Did not finish           13/100         No [ Skyfire ] : Uses server to render pages .
Web sites looked accurate but heavily compressed .
Flash videos jerky , out of sync and will not open in full screen .
[ Opera Mobile ] : Can easily open multiple pages and switch between them .
[ Fennec ] ( a.k.a Firefox Mobile ) : Slick interface .
Fastest at loading complex pages .
Clearly a pre-release product .
[ Safari ] : Multiple pages wo n't load simultaneously .
User interface is serene and easy to use .
[ Internet Explorer ] : Slowest overall browser .
Handled Flash the best of those tested .
Flash videos can be opened full screen but become jerky and out of sync .
[ BlackBerry browser ] : Browser does n't come close to a full Web experience .
Slowest at loading complex pages .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Browser             OS                              Version Tested        Javascript Benchmark  Acid3 Result  Flash-------             --                              --------------        --------------------  ------------  -----Skyfire             Windows Mobile and Symbian S60  1.1.0.12052 on WinMo  14,659 ms              52/100        YesOpera Mobile        Windows Mobile and Symbian S60  9.7 beta              40,249.20 ms          100/100        NoFennec              Windows Mobile or Maemo         1.0a3 on WinMo        11,391.20 ms           93/100        NoSafari              iPhone                          OS version 3.1.2      15,499.20 ms          100/100        NoInternet Explorer   Windows Mobile                  7                     74,537.60 ms            5/100        YesBlackBerry browser  BlackBerry                      OS version 4.6.1.199  Did not finish         13/100        No[Skyfire]: Uses server to render pages.
Web sites looked accurate but heavily compressed.
Flash videos jerky, out of sync and will not open in full screen.
[Opera Mobile]: Can easily open multiple pages and switch between them.
[Fennec] (a.k.a Firefox Mobile): Slick interface.
Fastest at loading complex pages.
Clearly a pre-release product.
[Safari]: Multiple pages won't load simultaneously.
User interface is serene and easy to use.
[Internet Explorer]: Slowest overall browser.
Handled Flash the best of those tested.
Flash videos can be opened full screen but become jerky and out of sync.
[BlackBerry browser]: Browser doesn't come close to a full Web experience.
Slowest at loading complex pages.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30132282</id>
	<title>What is the phone for, anyhow?</title>
	<author>MyFirstNameIsPaul</author>
	<datestamp>1258487040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just use web browsing on my BlackBerry Bold for reading articles.  I don't care about graphics.</p><p>
I don't like how they glossed over Opera Mini just because it can't pass some standards or whatever.  It's absolutely perfect for reading articles because the text is rendered nice and large and the columns are always the exact width of the screen, plus I can browse one-handed because all page navigation can be done with the number pad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just use web browsing on my BlackBerry Bold for reading articles .
I do n't care about graphics .
I do n't like how they glossed over Opera Mini just because it ca n't pass some standards or whatever .
It 's absolutely perfect for reading articles because the text is rendered nice and large and the columns are always the exact width of the screen , plus I can browse one-handed because all page navigation can be done with the number pad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just use web browsing on my BlackBerry Bold for reading articles.
I don't care about graphics.
I don't like how they glossed over Opera Mini just because it can't pass some standards or whatever.
It's absolutely perfect for reading articles because the text is rendered nice and large and the columns are always the exact width of the screen, plus I can browse one-handed because all page navigation can be done with the number pad.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130814</id>
	<title>Re:WebKit on Palm Pre?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258481880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Or where is...

Webkit on Android phones?
Webkit on Sybmian phones (Nokia, LG, Samsung)?
Webkit on Blackberries? (released yet?)

It really seems as though the smart phone market is becoming monocultural.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or where is.. . Webkit on Android phones ?
Webkit on Sybmian phones ( Nokia , LG , Samsung ) ?
Webkit on Blackberries ?
( released yet ?
) It really seems as though the smart phone market is becoming monocultural .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or where is...

Webkit on Android phones?
Webkit on Sybmian phones (Nokia, LG, Samsung)?
Webkit on Blackberries?
(released yet?
)

It really seems as though the smart phone market is becoming monocultural.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130612</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130928</id>
	<title>Re:Android?</title>
	<author>3p1ph4ny</author>
	<datestamp>1258482360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My Motorola droid gets 93/100 on acid3.acidtests.org, which is the same score my Windows firefox 3.5 gets. My Linux 3.0.14 firefox only gets 72/100.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My Motorola droid gets 93/100 on acid3.acidtests.org , which is the same score my Windows firefox 3.5 gets .
My Linux 3.0.14 firefox only gets 72/100 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My Motorola droid gets 93/100 on acid3.acidtests.org, which is the same score my Windows firefox 3.5 gets.
My Linux 3.0.14 firefox only gets 72/100.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130696</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30131372</id>
	<title>Re:Android?</title>
	<author>amicusNYCL</author>
	<datestamp>1258484160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They mentioned Android right here:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Opera looks set to release a version of its Opera Mobile browser for Android soon -- when that happens we'll be taking Android competitors into the ring, so stay tuned.</p></div><p>They buried that right on the first page of the article though, so I can see how you missed it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They mentioned Android right here : Opera looks set to release a version of its Opera Mobile browser for Android soon -- when that happens we 'll be taking Android competitors into the ring , so stay tuned.They buried that right on the first page of the article though , so I can see how you missed it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They mentioned Android right here:Opera looks set to release a version of its Opera Mobile browser for Android soon -- when that happens we'll be taking Android competitors into the ring, so stay tuned.They buried that right on the first page of the article though, so I can see how you missed it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130696</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30135350</id>
	<title>Re:Great slashvertisement</title>
	<author>Jesus\_666</author>
	<datestamp>1258453980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There was an interesting, if unsurprising, bit of information in there: Acid3 scores. Then again, "Webkit and Presto are good at Acid3; IE isn't" is not the most surprising of findings.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There was an interesting , if unsurprising , bit of information in there : Acid3 scores .
Then again , " Webkit and Presto are good at Acid3 ; IE is n't " is not the most surprising of findings .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There was an interesting, if unsurprising, bit of information in there: Acid3 scores.
Then again, "Webkit and Presto are good at Acid3; IE isn't" is not the most surprising of findings.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130712</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30132734</id>
	<title>Re:Great slashvertisement</title>
	<author>pitchpipe</author>
	<datestamp>1258488600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>have the power to take down the BlackBerry browser[...]?</p></div><p>Seriously?! Blackberry browser?  Mine takes so long to load (Blackberry Bold) on a 3G network that it is really unusable.  I guess you could put it up against Monks transcribing the Jewish apocrypha onto parchment and it might beat them, but only if they had to send it hundreds of miles on the backs of donkeys.</p><p>I really haven't found a browser that works very well on my Blackberry.  Opera works okay, and Bolt seems alright if a little weird.</p><p>Damn I wish that I could switch to the Droid, but I'm locked in a contract with ATT, and I refuse the fruit.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>have the power to take down the BlackBerry browser [ ... ] ? Seriously ? !
Blackberry browser ?
Mine takes so long to load ( Blackberry Bold ) on a 3G network that it is really unusable .
I guess you could put it up against Monks transcribing the Jewish apocrypha onto parchment and it might beat them , but only if they had to send it hundreds of miles on the backs of donkeys.I really have n't found a browser that works very well on my Blackberry .
Opera works okay , and Bolt seems alright if a little weird.Damn I wish that I could switch to the Droid , but I 'm locked in a contract with ATT , and I refuse the fruit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>have the power to take down the BlackBerry browser[...]?Seriously?!
Blackberry browser?
Mine takes so long to load (Blackberry Bold) on a 3G network that it is really unusable.
I guess you could put it up against Monks transcribing the Jewish apocrypha onto parchment and it might beat them, but only if they had to send it hundreds of miles on the backs of donkeys.I really haven't found a browser that works very well on my Blackberry.
Opera works okay, and Bolt seems alright if a little weird.Damn I wish that I could switch to the Droid, but I'm locked in a contract with ATT, and I refuse the fruit.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130712</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30133786</id>
	<title>mo3 uP</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258448940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>join in especially she had 8o fear corporate an3 as BSD sinks</htmltext>
<tokenext>join in especially she had 8o fear corporate an3 as BSD sinks</tokentext>
<sentencetext>join in especially she had 8o fear corporate an3 as BSD sinks</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30134822</id>
	<title>How about the Zune HD Browser?</title>
	<author>not already in use</author>
	<datestamp>1258452240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Would have been nice to see how the browser on the Zune HD compares.  It it presumed to be what is to come on WinMo 7, and is a marked improvement over what is available on current WinMo phones.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would have been nice to see how the browser on the Zune HD compares .
It it presumed to be what is to come on WinMo 7 , and is a marked improvement over what is available on current WinMo phones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would have been nice to see how the browser on the Zune HD compares.
It it presumed to be what is to come on WinMo 7, and is a marked improvement over what is available on current WinMo phones.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130618</id>
	<title>First</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258480920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>FRIST PSOT</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>FRIST PSOT</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FRIST PSOT</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130730</id>
	<title>Wrong.</title>
	<author>swanzilla</author>
	<datestamp>1258481520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>TFA states:<p><div class="quote"><p>We've distilled each browser's strengths, but note you can't get all of these on the same phone -- if you've got a BlackBerry, you're stuck with its browser...</p></div><p>You are most certainly not.  I typically have Opera up and running before I configure my email on a new BlackBerry.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>TFA states : We 've distilled each browser 's strengths , but note you ca n't get all of these on the same phone -- if you 've got a BlackBerry , you 're stuck with its browser...You are most certainly not .
I typically have Opera up and running before I configure my email on a new BlackBerry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TFA states:We've distilled each browser's strengths, but note you can't get all of these on the same phone -- if you've got a BlackBerry, you're stuck with its browser...You are most certainly not.
I typically have Opera up and running before I configure my email on a new BlackBerry.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130776</id>
	<title>Re:WebKit on Palm Pre?</title>
	<author>beelsebob</author>
	<datestamp>1258481700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The pre's browser is based on WebKit, so it's the exact same engine as Safari, this is (presumably) why they didn't test it, or Nokia's (also WebKit) browser.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The pre 's browser is based on WebKit , so it 's the exact same engine as Safari , this is ( presumably ) why they did n't test it , or Nokia 's ( also WebKit ) browser .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The pre's browser is based on WebKit, so it's the exact same engine as Safari, this is (presumably) why they didn't test it, or Nokia's (also WebKit) browser.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130612</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30131058</id>
	<title>Anything beats Safari on iPhone</title>
	<author>Culture20</author>
	<datestamp>1258483020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I love my iPhone, but I hate Safari with a passion.  You can't even load a CA signing cert, or permanently accept a specific cert.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I love my iPhone , but I hate Safari with a passion .
You ca n't even load a CA signing cert , or permanently accept a specific cert .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love my iPhone, but I hate Safari with a passion.
You can't even load a CA signing cert, or permanently accept a specific cert.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30131270</id>
	<title>HTC Ozone</title>
	<author>Pojut</author>
	<datestamp>1258483860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Despite it's use of an unskinned version of Windows Mobile 6.1, I absolutely LOVE my HTC Ozone...except the included web browser.</p><p>What would be the best alternative for this particular phone?  I'm likely not going to get a new phone until the sequel to the Droid is released, as I love the Ozone's hardware and don't want to give it up any time soon.  Still, the included web browser sucks.</p><p>Suggestions for a different web browser for my Ozone?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Despite it 's use of an unskinned version of Windows Mobile 6.1 , I absolutely LOVE my HTC Ozone...except the included web browser.What would be the best alternative for this particular phone ?
I 'm likely not going to get a new phone until the sequel to the Droid is released , as I love the Ozone 's hardware and do n't want to give it up any time soon .
Still , the included web browser sucks.Suggestions for a different web browser for my Ozone ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Despite it's use of an unskinned version of Windows Mobile 6.1, I absolutely LOVE my HTC Ozone...except the included web browser.What would be the best alternative for this particular phone?
I'm likely not going to get a new phone until the sequel to the Droid is released, as I love the Ozone's hardware and don't want to give it up any time soon.
Still, the included web browser sucks.Suggestions for a different web browser for my Ozone?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130884</id>
	<title>Re:Great slashvertisement</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1258482180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wouldn't care but since its on cnet its probably in 10pages. Screw that<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.... thanks for the warning.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would n't care but since its on cnet its probably in 10pages .
Screw that .... thanks for the warning .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wouldn't care but since its on cnet its probably in 10pages.
Screw that .... thanks for the warning.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130712</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30131028</id>
	<title>Irrelevant</title>
	<author>lhoguin</author>
	<datestamp>1258482900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The points compared are mostly irrelevant for today's handeld devices.</p><p>What I really would like to know is not if it'll take my phone a few more milliseconds to render the page, but rather:</p><ul><li>Is it power-efficient showing pages? Using it?</li><li>Does it *download* pages fast? Because so far, on phones, the main issue I have is the network speed and latency.</li><li>Can I access my bookmarks etc. from everywhere, easily? A web-based bookmark syncing service is fine, but something directly integrated like Opera Link is better IMHO.</li><li>Is it easy to use on the device I am using? Because every device is controlled differently.</li></ul><p>Rendering speed will become an issue only after network and power related issues are resolved.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The points compared are mostly irrelevant for today 's handeld devices.What I really would like to know is not if it 'll take my phone a few more milliseconds to render the page , but rather : Is it power-efficient showing pages ?
Using it ? Does it * download * pages fast ?
Because so far , on phones , the main issue I have is the network speed and latency.Can I access my bookmarks etc .
from everywhere , easily ?
A web-based bookmark syncing service is fine , but something directly integrated like Opera Link is better IMHO.Is it easy to use on the device I am using ?
Because every device is controlled differently.Rendering speed will become an issue only after network and power related issues are resolved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The points compared are mostly irrelevant for today's handeld devices.What I really would like to know is not if it'll take my phone a few more milliseconds to render the page, but rather:Is it power-efficient showing pages?
Using it?Does it *download* pages fast?
Because so far, on phones, the main issue I have is the network speed and latency.Can I access my bookmarks etc.
from everywhere, easily?
A web-based bookmark syncing service is fine, but something directly integrated like Opera Link is better IMHO.Is it easy to use on the device I am using?
Because every device is controlled differently.Rendering speed will become an issue only after network and power related issues are resolved.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130696</id>
	<title>Android?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258481280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No mention of Android.  Do not care.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No mention of Android .
Do not care .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No mention of Android.
Do not care.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30138112</id>
	<title>Symbian?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258466880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Am I the only one that wants to tag this with the word "orgasm" when I see the word Symbian?</p><p>Too much porn...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Am I the only one that wants to tag this with the word " orgasm " when I see the word Symbian ? Too much porn.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I the only one that wants to tag this with the word "orgasm" when I see the word Symbian?Too much porn...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130902</id>
	<title>Re:Great slashvertisement</title>
	<author>flabordec</author>
	<datestamp>1258482300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>But you should see how great those 10 pages look on a mobile browser!</htmltext>
<tokenext>But you should see how great those 10 pages look on a mobile browser !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But you should see how great those 10 pages look on a mobile browser!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130884</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30131066</id>
	<title>It's kind of funny...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258483020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>How many of these browsers that they say get 100/100 actually pass the test?  Safari on my iPhone gets to 100, but has a white X in a purple box with a red stripe in the top right corner.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How many of these browsers that they say get 100/100 actually pass the test ?
Safari on my iPhone gets to 100 , but has a white X in a purple box with a red stripe in the top right corner .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many of these browsers that they say get 100/100 actually pass the test?
Safari on my iPhone gets to 100, but has a white X in a purple box with a red stripe in the top right corner.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30185492</id>
	<title>Re:It's kind of funny...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258826640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's a reference page which the result page is compared to. It might just be that the reference page is rendered with all that gubbins on an iPhone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a reference page which the result page is compared to .
It might just be that the reference page is rendered with all that gubbins on an iPhone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a reference page which the result page is compared to.
It might just be that the reference page is rendered with all that gubbins on an iPhone.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30131066</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130798</id>
	<title>Re:Android?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258481820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's simply understood that the browser provided with Android is better than all of them.</p><p>Plus it's only on Android, afaik.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's simply understood that the browser provided with Android is better than all of them.Plus it 's only on Android , afaik .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's simply understood that the browser provided with Android is better than all of them.Plus it's only on Android, afaik.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130696</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30136934</id>
	<title>Re:WebKit on Palm Pre?</title>
	<author>MrLint</author>
	<datestamp>1258460280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well recently I tested an iPhone and it passed ACID 3 with 100, at the time the Pre's WebOS browser only got 1. With 1.3.1, its up to 73, but the rendering is a mess, and it goes into a reload loop when it gets to the end.</p><p>YYMV</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well recently I tested an iPhone and it passed ACID 3 with 100 , at the time the Pre 's WebOS browser only got 1 .
With 1.3.1 , its up to 73 , but the rendering is a mess , and it goes into a reload loop when it gets to the end.YYMV</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well recently I tested an iPhone and it passed ACID 3 with 100, at the time the Pre's WebOS browser only got 1.
With 1.3.1, its up to 73, but the rendering is a mess, and it goes into a reload loop when it gets to the end.YYMV</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130612</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130944</id>
	<title>seemed interesting but I loose interest quickly</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258482420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I made it to the third page before I got bored and left the site.  Does anybody know if they had anything interesting to say?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I made it to the third page before I got bored and left the site .
Does anybody know if they had anything interesting to say ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I made it to the third page before I got bored and left the site.
Does anybody know if they had anything interesting to say?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30130612</id>
	<title>WebKit on Palm Pre?</title>
	<author>XanC</author>
	<datestamp>1258480860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What about the Pre's browser?  It'd be interesting to see how it differed from Safari.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What about the Pre 's browser ?
It 'd be interesting to see how it differed from Safari .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about the Pre's browser?
It'd be interesting to see how it differed from Safari.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30141426</id>
	<title>Re:Um, what?</title>
	<author>Bert64</author>
	<datestamp>1257073740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Based on using different devices the javascript benchmarks lose some credibility too, how fast is the hardware on the devices tested, and how much overhead does the os bring that might affect the browser performance. It's only really on the windows mobile device that you can fairly compare the browsers, since they are running on the same os and same hardware.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Based on using different devices the javascript benchmarks lose some credibility too , how fast is the hardware on the devices tested , and how much overhead does the os bring that might affect the browser performance .
It 's only really on the windows mobile device that you can fairly compare the browsers , since they are running on the same os and same hardware .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Based on using different devices the javascript benchmarks lose some credibility too, how fast is the hardware on the devices tested, and how much overhead does the os bring that might affect the browser performance.
It's only really on the windows mobile device that you can fairly compare the browsers, since they are running on the same os and same hardware.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30131406</id>
	<title>Re:Great slashvertisement</title>
	<author>amicusNYCL</author>
	<datestamp>1258484280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sunspider isn't exactly a nameless Javascript benchmark..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sunspider is n't exactly a nameless Javascript benchmark. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sunspider isn't exactly a nameless Javascript benchmark..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30132472</id>
	<title>This just in...</title>
	<author>CompMD</author>
	<datestamp>1258487640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Different programs perform differently on different computers!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Different programs perform differently on different computers !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Different programs perform differently on different computers!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30134884</id>
	<title>Re:Article conclusion - summary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258452480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does "DNF" mean "Did not finish", or "Duke Nukem Forever"?  Or is that a redundant question?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does " DNF " mean " Did not finish " , or " Duke Nukem Forever " ?
Or is that a redundant question ?
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does "DNF" mean "Did not finish", or "Duke Nukem Forever"?
Or is that a redundant question?
:-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30131478</id>
	<title>Re:Wrong.</title>
	<author>MrNemesis</author>
	<datestamp>1258484460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Agreed. Opera Mini is streets ahead of any of the blackberry browsers, whether it be speed (it's faster downloading and rendering pages), UI (it's alot easier to use on a phone and much faster to scroll) and ease of reading (the BB browser has one of the worst placements of elements I've ever seen).</p><p>The S60 browser (I have both this and Opera on my Nokia) is pretty good, although the UI is *slightly* clunkier than opera and navigating on a non-touchscreen phone is a little bit more cumbersome.</p><p>Some companies do place restrictions on third party apps on their blackberries though - thankfully, alot of our staffers work from the road via blackberry and 3G, and so Opera and Google Maps were allowed onto our BES to rapturous applause. If you're not as lucky as me, you might need to kidnap your BES admins and threaten them that you'll make them be guinea pigs for using the BB encryption software<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Agreed .
Opera Mini is streets ahead of any of the blackberry browsers , whether it be speed ( it 's faster downloading and rendering pages ) , UI ( it 's alot easier to use on a phone and much faster to scroll ) and ease of reading ( the BB browser has one of the worst placements of elements I 've ever seen ) .The S60 browser ( I have both this and Opera on my Nokia ) is pretty good , although the UI is * slightly * clunkier than opera and navigating on a non-touchscreen phone is a little bit more cumbersome.Some companies do place restrictions on third party apps on their blackberries though - thankfully , alot of our staffers work from the road via blackberry and 3G , and so Opera and Google Maps were allowed onto our BES to rapturous applause .
If you 're not as lucky as me , you might need to kidnap your BES admins and threaten them that you 'll make them be guinea pigs for using the BB encryption software ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agreed.
Opera Mini is streets ahead of any of the blackberry browsers, whether it be speed (it's faster downloading and rendering pages), UI (it's alot easier to use on a phone and much faster to scroll) and ease of reading (the BB browser has one of the worst placements of elements I've ever seen).The S60 browser (I have both this and Opera on my Nokia) is pretty good, although the UI is *slightly* clunkier than opera and navigating on a non-touchscreen phone is a little bit more cumbersome.Some companies do place restrictions on third party apps on their blackberries though - thankfully, alot of our staffers work from the road via blackberry and 3G, and so Opera and Google Maps were allowed onto our BES to rapturous applause.
If you're not as lucky as me, you might need to kidnap your BES admins and threaten them that you'll make them be guinea pigs for using the BB encryption software ;)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30131834</id>
	<title>failzor?5?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258485660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>All major m4rketing *BSD is dead. Ass of them aal, posts on Usenet are Practical purposes, OF CHALLENGES THAT lead to 'cleaner prima donnas, and</htmltext>
<tokenext>All major m4rketing * BSD is dead .
Ass of them aal , posts on Usenet are Practical purposes , OF CHALLENGES THAT lead to 'cleaner prima donnas , and</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All major m4rketing *BSD is dead.
Ass of them aal, posts on Usenet are Practical purposes, OF CHALLENGES THAT lead to 'cleaner prima donnas, and</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1637212.30131600</id>
	<title>Symbian browser not worthwhile?</title>
	<author>iampiti</author>
	<datestamp>1258484940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They say they didn't test the default symbian browser since it was too simple compared with the others and unable to finish some tests.<br>
I wonder which phone were they using...since the included browser on my nokia 5800 it's pretty good: Pages render pretty well, it supports javascript and even flash works pretty well (it uses flash lite which works with most flash objects)</htmltext>
<tokenext>They say they did n't test the default symbian browser since it was too simple compared with the others and unable to finish some tests .
I wonder which phone were they using...since the included browser on my nokia 5800 it 's pretty good : Pages render pretty well , it supports javascript and even flash works pretty well ( it uses flash lite which works with most flash objects )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They say they didn't test the default symbian browser since it was too simple compared with the others and unable to finish some tests.
I wonder which phone were they using...since the included browser on my nokia 5800 it's pretty good: Pages render pretty well, it supports javascript and even flash works pretty well (it uses flash lite which works with most flash objects)</sentencetext>
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