<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_13_0522255</id>
	<title>Future Blu-ray Movies To Come With Playable Game Demos</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1258132980000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Audiofan writes <i>"Enthusiasts have long suggested the PlayStation 3 to their family and friends as one of the better and most affordable Blu-ray players. Lately, prices of Blu-ray players have been coming down, but the PS3 is still one of the better options out there. Sony is taking advantage of this by starting to <a href="http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/god-of-war-iii-district-9-demo">offer game demos on their Blu-ray offerings</a>. While these demos will only be playable on the PS3, they hope the extra value will help drive sales."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Audiofan writes " Enthusiasts have long suggested the PlayStation 3 to their family and friends as one of the better and most affordable Blu-ray players .
Lately , prices of Blu-ray players have been coming down , but the PS3 is still one of the better options out there .
Sony is taking advantage of this by starting to offer game demos on their Blu-ray offerings .
While these demos will only be playable on the PS3 , they hope the extra value will help drive sales .
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<sentencetext>Audiofan writes "Enthusiasts have long suggested the PlayStation 3 to their family and friends as one of the better and most affordable Blu-ray players.
Lately, prices of Blu-ray players have been coming down, but the PS3 is still one of the better options out there.
Sony is taking advantage of this by starting to offer game demos on their Blu-ray offerings.
While these demos will only be playable on the PS3, they hope the extra value will help drive sales.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30084208</id>
	<title>Re:Too easy...</title>
	<author>MachDelta</author>
	<datestamp>1258142820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>RTFA? Oh, wait, I forgot where I was for a moment.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)<br>Anyways, yes this is almost exactly what they're doing. Bundling an *extremely* highly anticipated game demo with a reasonably successful film. In this case it's the God of War 3 demo bundled with District 9. A movie I want to own and a game I want to try. So as long as it doesn't cost any extra, yes I will be buying this.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>RTFA ?
Oh , wait , I forgot where I was for a moment .
; ) Anyways , yes this is almost exactly what they 're doing .
Bundling an * extremely * highly anticipated game demo with a reasonably successful film .
In this case it 's the God of War 3 demo bundled with District 9 .
A movie I want to own and a game I want to try .
So as long as it does n't cost any extra , yes I will be buying this .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>RTFA?
Oh, wait, I forgot where I was for a moment.
;)Anyways, yes this is almost exactly what they're doing.
Bundling an *extremely* highly anticipated game demo with a reasonably successful film.
In this case it's the God of War 3 demo bundled with District 9.
A movie I want to own and a game I want to try.
So as long as it doesn't cost any extra, yes I will be buying this.
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30084638</id>
	<title>Re:alternatively...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258107000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Blu-Ray discs are 50GB. The video file for the movie "Love Actually" is 40GB. I'm only allowed to download 250GB a month.</p><p>How do you expect this to work?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Blu-Ray discs are 50GB .
The video file for the movie " Love Actually " is 40GB .
I 'm only allowed to download 250GB a month.How do you expect this to work ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Blu-Ray discs are 50GB.
The video file for the movie "Love Actually" is 40GB.
I'm only allowed to download 250GB a month.How do you expect this to work?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30083728</id>
	<title>Too easy...</title>
	<author>playerone</author>
	<datestamp>1258050480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now we can get our crappy sweatshop games right on the same disk as the average movie tie in.</p><p>Can't see this being very useful in the real world.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now we can get our crappy sweatshop games right on the same disk as the average movie tie in.Ca n't see this being very useful in the real world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now we can get our crappy sweatshop games right on the same disk as the average movie tie in.Can't see this being very useful in the real world.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30083790</id>
	<title>Right on, Sony!</title>
	<author>geminidomino</author>
	<datestamp>1258051140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Great idea! This'll be bigger than UMD Vide... oh...</p><p>Nevermind...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Great idea !
This 'll be bigger than UMD Vide... oh...Nevermind.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Great idea!
This'll be bigger than UMD Vide... oh...Nevermind...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30084302</id>
	<title>Just lower the price instead.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258144260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"they hope the extra value will help drive sales"</p><p>Instead of increasing the value to "match" the price, they should simply lower their price.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" they hope the extra value will help drive sales " Instead of increasing the value to " match " the price , they should simply lower their price .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"they hope the extra value will help drive sales"Instead of increasing the value to "match" the price, they should simply lower their price.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30085758</id>
	<title>Re:Blu-ray is dead.</title>
	<author>DrXym</author>
	<datestamp>1258122000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sadly I think some people really can't tell the difference, or rather can't conceptualize the difference unless you show them HD and SD running side by side. Once they see it they can tell instantly, but getting over that hurdle is an issue. I think this is why the industry is so keen to introduce 3D. It's a lot hard to claim you can't see the difference between a 2D and 3D image.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sadly I think some people really ca n't tell the difference , or rather ca n't conceptualize the difference unless you show them HD and SD running side by side .
Once they see it they can tell instantly , but getting over that hurdle is an issue .
I think this is why the industry is so keen to introduce 3D .
It 's a lot hard to claim you ca n't see the difference between a 2D and 3D image .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sadly I think some people really can't tell the difference, or rather can't conceptualize the difference unless you show them HD and SD running side by side.
Once they see it they can tell instantly, but getting over that hurdle is an issue.
I think this is why the industry is so keen to introduce 3D.
It's a lot hard to claim you can't see the difference between a 2D and 3D image.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30086878</id>
	<title>Re:Too easy...</title>
	<author>SenseiLeNoir</author>
	<datestamp>1258128240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree in that I do also get my demos from PSN.. but recently, I am finding PSN is getting pretty crowded (not a bad thing, as it shows more games are available). Add to that the time taken to download a 650MB - 1GB demo (still takes time).</p><p>I woudl not "mind" if there is about 650MB spare left on the BD to also include the game demo... especially one linked to the film.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree in that I do also get my demos from PSN.. but recently , I am finding PSN is getting pretty crowded ( not a bad thing , as it shows more games are available ) .
Add to that the time taken to download a 650MB - 1GB demo ( still takes time ) .I woudl not " mind " if there is about 650MB spare left on the BD to also include the game demo... especially one linked to the film .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree in that I do also get my demos from PSN.. but recently, I am finding PSN is getting pretty crowded (not a bad thing, as it shows more games are available).
Add to that the time taken to download a 650MB - 1GB demo (still takes time).I woudl not "mind" if there is about 650MB spare left on the BD to also include the game demo... especially one linked to the film.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30084288</id>
	<title>Good for Sony</title>
	<author>Toonol</author>
	<datestamp>1258144140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But this might be a little irritating to any blu-ray player manufacturers NOT named Sony.</htmltext>
<tokenext>But this might be a little irritating to any blu-ray player manufacturers NOT named Sony .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But this might be a little irritating to any blu-ray player manufacturers NOT named Sony.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30083992</id>
	<title>Re:Blu-ray is dead.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258053360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I refuse to buy a blu-ray player for the following reasons:</p><p>Xbox360 pwnz<br>I can pirate everything in 1080p and stream it to my HDTV using the aforementioned xbox<br>I can also pirate the full games that would be included on the blu ray disc, for the 360 of course</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I refuse to buy a blu-ray player for the following reasons : Xbox360 pwnzI can pirate everything in 1080p and stream it to my HDTV using the aforementioned xboxI can also pirate the full games that would be included on the blu ray disc , for the 360 of course</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I refuse to buy a blu-ray player for the following reasons:Xbox360 pwnzI can pirate everything in 1080p and stream it to my HDTV using the aforementioned xboxI can also pirate the full games that would be included on the blu ray disc, for the 360 of course</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30085710</id>
	<title>Re:Blu-ray is dead.</title>
	<author>DrXym</author>
	<datestamp>1258121700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>That "dead on arrival" format is experiencing growth comparable to DVD in its day. And even if it did die for whatever reason so what? Tools like AnyDVD make it fairly straightforward to rip the content to HDD at which point you have a high quality 1080p movie which will be good for years to come.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That " dead on arrival " format is experiencing growth comparable to DVD in its day .
And even if it did die for whatever reason so what ?
Tools like AnyDVD make it fairly straightforward to rip the content to HDD at which point you have a high quality 1080p movie which will be good for years to come .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That "dead on arrival" format is experiencing growth comparable to DVD in its day.
And even if it did die for whatever reason so what?
Tools like AnyDVD make it fairly straightforward to rip the content to HDD at which point you have a high quality 1080p movie which will be good for years to come.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30085008</id>
	<title>Re:I just want to play for 1h so game demos are gr</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258112760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Exactly, i love games with movies, even some mini-games that came on DVDs.</p><p>Since someone mentioned Final Fantasy up there, the Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within mini-editor game that lets you re-sequence one of the scenes was pretty damn fun.</p><p>I wish more film makers would put some fun back in to the DVD releases.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly , i love games with movies , even some mini-games that came on DVDs.Since someone mentioned Final Fantasy up there , the Final Fantasy : The Spirits Within mini-editor game that lets you re-sequence one of the scenes was pretty damn fun.I wish more film makers would put some fun back in to the DVD releases .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly, i love games with movies, even some mini-games that came on DVDs.Since someone mentioned Final Fantasy up there, the Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within mini-editor game that lets you re-sequence one of the scenes was pretty damn fun.I wish more film makers would put some fun back in to the DVD releases.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30097188</id>
	<title>Re:I'm so over these stupid shiny plastic discs</title>
	<author>WWWWolf</author>
	<datestamp>1258211520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I really hope that bluray is the last of this shiny plastic disc phenomenon.</p></div><p>Nope, there's nothing wrong with shiny plastic discs.</p><p>The media industry just needs to start treating them the way the tech industry wants them to be treated: dumb places to dump your dumb data on. Nothing more, nothing less.</p><p>If we want interactive rich media that people try to shovel on movie discs, we'll buy a video game instead. If we ever feel the need to willingly deal with this license and encryption bullshit, we will consult a psychiatrist next morning.</p><p>Let's go back to the basics and just use the discs to transport video in a commonly agreed format that a player device can play. That's all we ever really needed. If you don't want people to copy the film, put "plz don't copy k?" in the disc label.</p><p>Last I checked, DVD format doesn't <em>mandate</em> region coding, encryption or interactive content. I haven't checked Blu-Ray specs but I <em>sure hope</em> it doesn't either.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I really hope that bluray is the last of this shiny plastic disc phenomenon.Nope , there 's nothing wrong with shiny plastic discs.The media industry just needs to start treating them the way the tech industry wants them to be treated : dumb places to dump your dumb data on .
Nothing more , nothing less.If we want interactive rich media that people try to shovel on movie discs , we 'll buy a video game instead .
If we ever feel the need to willingly deal with this license and encryption bullshit , we will consult a psychiatrist next morning.Let 's go back to the basics and just use the discs to transport video in a commonly agreed format that a player device can play .
That 's all we ever really needed .
If you do n't want people to copy the film , put " plz do n't copy k ?
" in the disc label.Last I checked , DVD format does n't mandate region coding , encryption or interactive content .
I have n't checked Blu-Ray specs but I sure hope it does n't either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really hope that bluray is the last of this shiny plastic disc phenomenon.Nope, there's nothing wrong with shiny plastic discs.The media industry just needs to start treating them the way the tech industry wants them to be treated: dumb places to dump your dumb data on.
Nothing more, nothing less.If we want interactive rich media that people try to shovel on movie discs, we'll buy a video game instead.
If we ever feel the need to willingly deal with this license and encryption bullshit, we will consult a psychiatrist next morning.Let's go back to the basics and just use the discs to transport video in a commonly agreed format that a player device can play.
That's all we ever really needed.
If you don't want people to copy the film, put "plz don't copy k?
" in the disc label.Last I checked, DVD format doesn't mandate region coding, encryption or interactive content.
I haven't checked Blu-Ray specs but I sure hope it doesn't either.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30084164</id>
	<title>Re:Too easy...</title>
	<author>Alcohol Fueled</author>
	<datestamp>1258055820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>But who's really going to pay the price of a Blu-ray disc to play the game demo, even if they REALLY want to? I mean sure, if its on the same disc as a film you'd buy anyway... but to buy Terrible Parody Movie 9 to play the demo of the ohmygodsweetjesusawesome Halo (or any other highly popular game) game coming out the next spring... no.</htmltext>
<tokenext>But who 's really going to pay the price of a Blu-ray disc to play the game demo , even if they REALLY want to ?
I mean sure , if its on the same disc as a film you 'd buy anyway... but to buy Terrible Parody Movie 9 to play the demo of the ohmygodsweetjesusawesome Halo ( or any other highly popular game ) game coming out the next spring... no .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But who's really going to pay the price of a Blu-ray disc to play the game demo, even if they REALLY want to?
I mean sure, if its on the same disc as a film you'd buy anyway... but to buy Terrible Parody Movie 9 to play the demo of the ohmygodsweetjesusawesome Halo (or any other highly popular game) game coming out the next spring... no.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30084042</id>
	<title>I just want to play for 1h so game demos are great</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258053960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is awesome. Most game demos have to give you enough to wet your appetite for more. Most of the time you can realize the game would suck, but the demo usually has a few redeeming qualities making the 30 minutes that you play the demo rewarding and entertaining.</p><p>So: I'm all for it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is awesome .
Most game demos have to give you enough to wet your appetite for more .
Most of the time you can realize the game would suck , but the demo usually has a few redeeming qualities making the 30 minutes that you play the demo rewarding and entertaining.So : I 'm all for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is awesome.
Most game demos have to give you enough to wet your appetite for more.
Most of the time you can realize the game would suck, but the demo usually has a few redeeming qualities making the 30 minutes that you play the demo rewarding and entertaining.So: I'm all for it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30086718</id>
	<title>Re:alternatively...</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1258127520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He didn't say now, he said in the future.  BluRay video is around 30Mb/s.  My current connection is 10Mb/s so clearly not fast enough, although my ISP offers 50Mb/s.  Give it a couple of years and you'll see 50Mb/s becoming standard and a lot more people having 100Mb/s.  Combine this with aggressive edge caching and improvements in compression techniques and you can stream movies at 1080p.  </p><p>
Currently iPlayer streams 720p (1280x720 H.264) at 3200Kb/s, which works well.  The quality is better than DVDs though not as good as a decent BluRay master and uses under half of my available bandwidth.  Taking this up to 1080p is just a matter of increasing the bandwidth.  To get to BluRay quality is a factor of ten increase in bandwidth with the same compression, but given the rate at which available bandwidth is increasing that doesn't seem too far in the future.  And right now, streaming 720p seems more attractive than 1080p on little plastic disks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He did n't say now , he said in the future .
BluRay video is around 30Mb/s .
My current connection is 10Mb/s so clearly not fast enough , although my ISP offers 50Mb/s .
Give it a couple of years and you 'll see 50Mb/s becoming standard and a lot more people having 100Mb/s .
Combine this with aggressive edge caching and improvements in compression techniques and you can stream movies at 1080p .
Currently iPlayer streams 720p ( 1280x720 H.264 ) at 3200Kb/s , which works well .
The quality is better than DVDs though not as good as a decent BluRay master and uses under half of my available bandwidth .
Taking this up to 1080p is just a matter of increasing the bandwidth .
To get to BluRay quality is a factor of ten increase in bandwidth with the same compression , but given the rate at which available bandwidth is increasing that does n't seem too far in the future .
And right now , streaming 720p seems more attractive than 1080p on little plastic disks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He didn't say now, he said in the future.
BluRay video is around 30Mb/s.
My current connection is 10Mb/s so clearly not fast enough, although my ISP offers 50Mb/s.
Give it a couple of years and you'll see 50Mb/s becoming standard and a lot more people having 100Mb/s.
Combine this with aggressive edge caching and improvements in compression techniques and you can stream movies at 1080p.
Currently iPlayer streams 720p (1280x720 H.264) at 3200Kb/s, which works well.
The quality is better than DVDs though not as good as a decent BluRay master and uses under half of my available bandwidth.
Taking this up to 1080p is just a matter of increasing the bandwidth.
To get to BluRay quality is a factor of ten increase in bandwidth with the same compression, but given the rate at which available bandwidth is increasing that doesn't seem too far in the future.
And right now, streaming 720p seems more attractive than 1080p on little plastic disks.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30083710</id>
	<title>I can't wait...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258050300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... for the porn industry to whip up something fun with this.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... for the porn industry to whip up something fun with this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... for the porn industry to whip up something fun with this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30084186</id>
	<title>Re:I see some Success here</title>
	<author>Cochonou</author>
	<datestamp>1258142580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They probably want to drive up the sales... of their games. I don't really see anybody to be more inclined to shell money out because of a game demo. In the other way however, it might be more effective, as a distribution channel. If the game demo is already available on a disk you own, you might be more tempted to try out the demo, especially if it's from a game you have never heard about.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They probably want to drive up the sales... of their games .
I do n't really see anybody to be more inclined to shell money out because of a game demo .
In the other way however , it might be more effective , as a distribution channel .
If the game demo is already available on a disk you own , you might be more tempted to try out the demo , especially if it 's from a game you have never heard about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They probably want to drive up the sales... of their games.
I don't really see anybody to be more inclined to shell money out because of a game demo.
In the other way however, it might be more effective, as a distribution channel.
If the game demo is already available on a disk you own, you might be more tempted to try out the demo, especially if it's from a game you have never heard about.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30085814</id>
	<title>Re:Too easy...</title>
	<author>Yamata no Orochi</author>
	<datestamp>1258122600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The precedent is already there.</p><p>It's the only reason anyone bought Crackdown.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The precedent is already there.It 's the only reason anyone bought Crackdown .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The precedent is already there.It's the only reason anyone bought Crackdown.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30083940</id>
	<title>Re:Blu-ray is dead.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258052880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You must be blind as a bat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You must be blind as a bat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You must be blind as a bat.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30083786</id>
	<title>Hooray, more garbage</title>
	<author>greatica</author>
	<datestamp>1258051140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>IMDB &gt; Actor biographies<br>Google Images &gt; Special Artwork<br>YouTube &amp; Movies Sites &gt; Deleted Scenes and Behind the Scenes Documentaries<br>Blogs &gt; Director's commentaries<br>Apple/Youtube &gt; Upcoming releases<br>Ripping Disc to cleanse the movie &gt; FBI Warning<br>Watching mold grow &gt; Overdone menus<br>Surfing the net on my own &gt; Launching my browser with your dumpy "special access" software.<br>Root Canal &gt; DVD Quizzes</p><p>And now...</p><p>Downloading Demos &gt; Having them bundled</p><p>Hooray, I love more garbage that will make my movies seem even more dated when I watch them 10 years later.</p><p>Who am I kidding?  They probably won't even put the demos on the disks...they'll just waste your bandwidth by using BD Live to download the demo.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IMDB &gt; Actor biographiesGoogle Images &gt; Special ArtworkYouTube &amp; Movies Sites &gt; Deleted Scenes and Behind the Scenes DocumentariesBlogs &gt; Director 's commentariesApple/Youtube &gt; Upcoming releasesRipping Disc to cleanse the movie &gt; FBI WarningWatching mold grow &gt; Overdone menusSurfing the net on my own &gt; Launching my browser with your dumpy " special access " software.Root Canal &gt; DVD QuizzesAnd now...Downloading Demos &gt; Having them bundledHooray , I love more garbage that will make my movies seem even more dated when I watch them 10 years later.Who am I kidding ?
They probably wo n't even put the demos on the disks...they 'll just waste your bandwidth by using BD Live to download the demo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IMDB &gt; Actor biographiesGoogle Images &gt; Special ArtworkYouTube &amp; Movies Sites &gt; Deleted Scenes and Behind the Scenes DocumentariesBlogs &gt; Director's commentariesApple/Youtube &gt; Upcoming releasesRipping Disc to cleanse the movie &gt; FBI WarningWatching mold grow &gt; Overdone menusSurfing the net on my own &gt; Launching my browser with your dumpy "special access" software.Root Canal &gt; DVD QuizzesAnd now...Downloading Demos &gt; Having them bundledHooray, I love more garbage that will make my movies seem even more dated when I watch them 10 years later.Who am I kidding?
They probably won't even put the demos on the disks...they'll just waste your bandwidth by using BD Live to download the demo.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30086734</id>
	<title>Re:I'm so over these stupid shiny plastic discs</title>
	<author>elrous0</author>
	<datestamp>1258127580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do you really think it's going to work that way? You think studios are just going to give up the lucrative model they have now just so you can pay a small flat fee for all-you can-eat? No, let me tell you how it would REALLY work if they got rid of those "shiny discs": It would be exactly the same as it is now, with you paying $20-$25 per movie, only now you would only get a downloaded copy which you couldn't then resell or loan to a friend. The end.</p><p>And that is why you should PRAY that those shiny discs stick around.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you really think it 's going to work that way ?
You think studios are just going to give up the lucrative model they have now just so you can pay a small flat fee for all-you can-eat ?
No , let me tell you how it would REALLY work if they got rid of those " shiny discs " : It would be exactly the same as it is now , with you paying $ 20- $ 25 per movie , only now you would only get a downloaded copy which you could n't then resell or loan to a friend .
The end.And that is why you should PRAY that those shiny discs stick around .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you really think it's going to work that way?
You think studios are just going to give up the lucrative model they have now just so you can pay a small flat fee for all-you can-eat?
No, let me tell you how it would REALLY work if they got rid of those "shiny discs": It would be exactly the same as it is now, with you paying $20-$25 per movie, only now you would only get a downloaded copy which you couldn't then resell or loan to a friend.
The end.And that is why you should PRAY that those shiny discs stick around.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30087342</id>
	<title>Re:PS3 *CAN* be used as a DVR</title>
	<author>SenseiLeNoir</author>
	<datestamp>1258130520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I also have the PlayTV..</p><p>You forgot to mention few other usefull features...</p><p>a) the recorded stuff is in standard MPEG format (for sd) and is already in the right stream format for burning to DVD-Video without transcoding.</p><p>b) it seems to already support AVC/Mp4 and only requires a software update (maybe already provided)</p><p>c) two tuners, record one program watch another. Though it would be nice if it can also record two at the same time.... probably a software update (i dont think there is a restriction based on USB bandwidth, as it already provides two streams when you are watching one program and recording another)</p><p>d) Powered straight from usb, no need for another power brick, works via a powered USB hub too.</p><p>e) Its EPG is really good. you can search for programs via keyword.</p><p>f) Use PSP, and remote play to set the recorder remotely, or watch TV remotely (even via the Internet)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I also have the PlayTV..You forgot to mention few other usefull features...a ) the recorded stuff is in standard MPEG format ( for sd ) and is already in the right stream format for burning to DVD-Video without transcoding.b ) it seems to already support AVC/Mp4 and only requires a software update ( maybe already provided ) c ) two tuners , record one program watch another .
Though it would be nice if it can also record two at the same time.... probably a software update ( i dont think there is a restriction based on USB bandwidth , as it already provides two streams when you are watching one program and recording another ) d ) Powered straight from usb , no need for another power brick , works via a powered USB hub too.e ) Its EPG is really good .
you can search for programs via keyword.f ) Use PSP , and remote play to set the recorder remotely , or watch TV remotely ( even via the Internet )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I also have the PlayTV..You forgot to mention few other usefull features...a) the recorded stuff is in standard MPEG format (for sd) and is already in the right stream format for burning to DVD-Video without transcoding.b) it seems to already support AVC/Mp4 and only requires a software update (maybe already provided)c) two tuners, record one program watch another.
Though it would be nice if it can also record two at the same time.... probably a software update (i dont think there is a restriction based on USB bandwidth, as it already provides two streams when you are watching one program and recording another)d) Powered straight from usb, no need for another power brick, works via a powered USB hub too.e) Its EPG is really good.
you can search for programs via keyword.f) Use PSP, and remote play to set the recorder remotely, or watch TV remotely (even via the Internet)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30083768</id>
	<title>save the space..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258050900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...for a good encode of the movie itself. leave the gimmicks out of it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...for a good encode of the movie itself .
leave the gimmicks out of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...for a good encode of the movie itself.
leave the gimmicks out of it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30083830</id>
	<title>alternatively...</title>
	<author>EspressoFreak</author>
	<datestamp>1258051500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>it's only a matter of time that we'll be watching full blu-ray movies off the ps3 network, kind of like the itune store where we can pay couple dollars and keep the movie for 3 days or so.</htmltext>
<tokenext>it 's only a matter of time that we 'll be watching full blu-ray movies off the ps3 network , kind of like the itune store where we can pay couple dollars and keep the movie for 3 days or so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it's only a matter of time that we'll be watching full blu-ray movies off the ps3 network, kind of like the itune store where we can pay couple dollars and keep the movie for 3 days or so.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30084642</id>
	<title>Re:I'm so over these stupid shiny plastic discs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258107000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The transition from VHS to DVD was a necessary break from the past. What I don't understand is why you can't simply play your DVDs on your Blu-Ray player? You haven't lost anything there and you certainly don't need to buy a new copy unless you want the higher resolution version.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The transition from VHS to DVD was a necessary break from the past .
What I do n't understand is why you ca n't simply play your DVDs on your Blu-Ray player ?
You have n't lost anything there and you certainly do n't need to buy a new copy unless you want the higher resolution version .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The transition from VHS to DVD was a necessary break from the past.
What I don't understand is why you can't simply play your DVDs on your Blu-Ray player?
You haven't lost anything there and you certainly don't need to buy a new copy unless you want the higher resolution version.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30083844</id>
	<title>I see some Success here</title>
	<author>Sirusjr</author>
	<datestamp>1258051680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As much as many here are too smart to be fooled by this, think back to when Dragon Quest VIII came with a pack-in demo of FFXII.  I doubt much of the gaming populace actually bought DQVIII to play it rather than to play the demo (although I like to think that people bought it for DQVIII).  However with downloaded demos a much bigger thing nowdays I don't see how this would work.  If other demos work just fine when uploaded to the internet and burned on a CD (at least for the xbox 360) then I fail to see how that will be impossible to do here as well.  Thus the demo will just show up on bittorrent sites for all to enjoy without wasting their money on District 9.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As much as many here are too smart to be fooled by this , think back to when Dragon Quest VIII came with a pack-in demo of FFXII .
I doubt much of the gaming populace actually bought DQVIII to play it rather than to play the demo ( although I like to think that people bought it for DQVIII ) .
However with downloaded demos a much bigger thing nowdays I do n't see how this would work .
If other demos work just fine when uploaded to the internet and burned on a CD ( at least for the xbox 360 ) then I fail to see how that will be impossible to do here as well .
Thus the demo will just show up on bittorrent sites for all to enjoy without wasting their money on District 9 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As much as many here are too smart to be fooled by this, think back to when Dragon Quest VIII came with a pack-in demo of FFXII.
I doubt much of the gaming populace actually bought DQVIII to play it rather than to play the demo (although I like to think that people bought it for DQVIII).
However with downloaded demos a much bigger thing nowdays I don't see how this would work.
If other demos work just fine when uploaded to the internet and burned on a CD (at least for the xbox 360) then I fail to see how that will be impossible to do here as well.
Thus the demo will just show up on bittorrent sites for all to enjoy without wasting their money on District 9.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30083784</id>
	<title>Blu-ray is dead.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258051140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can't these companies get it through their thick skulls that Bluray is a dead on arrival format?  That consumers don't see it as a necessary update to their plain DVDs, which they see as good enough even with the advent of HD televisions?</p><p>Companies are just trying to beat consumers over the head with Bluray for long enough in the hope that some day it might actually catch on, thanks to their wonderfully deep pockets (while they say that they're losing money due to piracy...), instead of letting the market decide what fails and lives.  In the past, Bluray would have long been dead, but now Sony and other companies pushing this DOA format are stubbornly determined to make it succeed despite overwhelming apathy for it.</p><p>Let it die.  Yes, a few people buy it, but no more than the normal amount of "early adopters" for any new technology.  It's over, let it pass into history as yet another failed format nobody wants.</p><p>Anonymous Coward because I *know* there will be people accusing me of technophobia, hatred of new technology, etc, instead of seeing my argument as what it is -- basic common sense reasoning.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ca n't these companies get it through their thick skulls that Bluray is a dead on arrival format ?
That consumers do n't see it as a necessary update to their plain DVDs , which they see as good enough even with the advent of HD televisions ? Companies are just trying to beat consumers over the head with Bluray for long enough in the hope that some day it might actually catch on , thanks to their wonderfully deep pockets ( while they say that they 're losing money due to piracy... ) , instead of letting the market decide what fails and lives .
In the past , Bluray would have long been dead , but now Sony and other companies pushing this DOA format are stubbornly determined to make it succeed despite overwhelming apathy for it.Let it die .
Yes , a few people buy it , but no more than the normal amount of " early adopters " for any new technology .
It 's over , let it pass into history as yet another failed format nobody wants.Anonymous Coward because I * know * there will be people accusing me of technophobia , hatred of new technology , etc , instead of seeing my argument as what it is -- basic common sense reasoning .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can't these companies get it through their thick skulls that Bluray is a dead on arrival format?
That consumers don't see it as a necessary update to their plain DVDs, which they see as good enough even with the advent of HD televisions?Companies are just trying to beat consumers over the head with Bluray for long enough in the hope that some day it might actually catch on, thanks to their wonderfully deep pockets (while they say that they're losing money due to piracy...), instead of letting the market decide what fails and lives.
In the past, Bluray would have long been dead, but now Sony and other companies pushing this DOA format are stubbornly determined to make it succeed despite overwhelming apathy for it.Let it die.
Yes, a few people buy it, but no more than the normal amount of "early adopters" for any new technology.
It's over, let it pass into history as yet another failed format nobody wants.Anonymous Coward because I *know* there will be people accusing me of technophobia, hatred of new technology, etc, instead of seeing my argument as what it is -- basic common sense reasoning.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30084678</id>
	<title>Re:Too easy...</title>
	<author>AnotherUsername</author>
	<datestamp>1258107360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hmm...
<br>
I think I'll just get my PS3 game demo the same place I get them now - the Playstation Network.  They're free, and chances are, it'll be the exact same demo on the movie I probably didn't want to begin with.
<br> <br>
Instead of using the extra disc space for a game demo, how about they use it for special features and alternate versions(director's cut and theatrical on the same disc would be nice).  I love my Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut, but the fact that a Blu-Ray disc has none of the special features that were on the regular DVD irritates me.  I am told that there are no special features because the a.) the movie is 45 minutes longer, b.) the video is higher quality, and c.) the audio is higher quality as well.  Well, I may be one of the few, but I would be willing to pay more for the movie if they would include a second Blu-Ray disc that was entirely special features, as well as the original theatrical version.
<br> <br>
When a release of a film is done right, and there are plenty of extras that go along with it, I am willing to reward those who are responsible.  However, if a studio is adding 'extras' to a release that really have very little to do with the actual movie, I get quite irritated.  Adding a game demo to a Blu-Ray disc simply to use up space actually makes me a bit angry.  This tells me that I am not getting a.) high quality video, b.) high quality sound, or c.) special features that I will actually enjoy.
<br> <br>
When I play a game demo, and I enjoy it enough, I buy the game.  Then I delete the demo, because I have no further use for it.  When I play a game demo, and I do not like it, I simply delete it, and never think about it again.  By coupling a game demo to a movie, I am forced to forever have to keep the game demo, whether I like it or not.  If I buy a movie, I want a movie, with extras pertaining to the movie.  If I buy a movie, I am not buying a game.  When I buy a game, I do not expect a movie trailer to come with it.  That is not why I bought the game.  Both demos and trailers are generally free on the Playstation Network.  Why do I need to have a movie tie-in game be forced onto me.  Most movie tie-in games suck.  I don't like to think about them.  Nor do I want them on my Blu-Ray disc, taking up space that could be used for my special features that I love so much.
<br> <br>
Disclaimer to above post:
<br>
I know that this post has been very a roundabout one, so please forgive me.  It's 3:15 in the morning, and I am just getting done watching a 6 hour Dr. Who marathon(damn you Netflix!), and I am tired.  So please forgive me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm.. . I think I 'll just get my PS3 game demo the same place I get them now - the Playstation Network .
They 're free , and chances are , it 'll be the exact same demo on the movie I probably did n't want to begin with .
Instead of using the extra disc space for a game demo , how about they use it for special features and alternate versions ( director 's cut and theatrical on the same disc would be nice ) .
I love my Kingdom of Heaven Director 's Cut , but the fact that a Blu-Ray disc has none of the special features that were on the regular DVD irritates me .
I am told that there are no special features because the a .
) the movie is 45 minutes longer , b .
) the video is higher quality , and c. ) the audio is higher quality as well .
Well , I may be one of the few , but I would be willing to pay more for the movie if they would include a second Blu-Ray disc that was entirely special features , as well as the original theatrical version .
When a release of a film is done right , and there are plenty of extras that go along with it , I am willing to reward those who are responsible .
However , if a studio is adding 'extras ' to a release that really have very little to do with the actual movie , I get quite irritated .
Adding a game demo to a Blu-Ray disc simply to use up space actually makes me a bit angry .
This tells me that I am not getting a .
) high quality video , b .
) high quality sound , or c. ) special features that I will actually enjoy .
When I play a game demo , and I enjoy it enough , I buy the game .
Then I delete the demo , because I have no further use for it .
When I play a game demo , and I do not like it , I simply delete it , and never think about it again .
By coupling a game demo to a movie , I am forced to forever have to keep the game demo , whether I like it or not .
If I buy a movie , I want a movie , with extras pertaining to the movie .
If I buy a movie , I am not buying a game .
When I buy a game , I do not expect a movie trailer to come with it .
That is not why I bought the game .
Both demos and trailers are generally free on the Playstation Network .
Why do I need to have a movie tie-in game be forced onto me .
Most movie tie-in games suck .
I do n't like to think about them .
Nor do I want them on my Blu-Ray disc , taking up space that could be used for my special features that I love so much .
Disclaimer to above post : I know that this post has been very a roundabout one , so please forgive me .
It 's 3 : 15 in the morning , and I am just getting done watching a 6 hour Dr. Who marathon ( damn you Netflix !
) , and I am tired .
So please forgive me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm...

I think I'll just get my PS3 game demo the same place I get them now - the Playstation Network.
They're free, and chances are, it'll be the exact same demo on the movie I probably didn't want to begin with.
Instead of using the extra disc space for a game demo, how about they use it for special features and alternate versions(director's cut and theatrical on the same disc would be nice).
I love my Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut, but the fact that a Blu-Ray disc has none of the special features that were on the regular DVD irritates me.
I am told that there are no special features because the a.
) the movie is 45 minutes longer, b.
) the video is higher quality, and c.) the audio is higher quality as well.
Well, I may be one of the few, but I would be willing to pay more for the movie if they would include a second Blu-Ray disc that was entirely special features, as well as the original theatrical version.
When a release of a film is done right, and there are plenty of extras that go along with it, I am willing to reward those who are responsible.
However, if a studio is adding 'extras' to a release that really have very little to do with the actual movie, I get quite irritated.
Adding a game demo to a Blu-Ray disc simply to use up space actually makes me a bit angry.
This tells me that I am not getting a.
) high quality video, b.
) high quality sound, or c.) special features that I will actually enjoy.
When I play a game demo, and I enjoy it enough, I buy the game.
Then I delete the demo, because I have no further use for it.
When I play a game demo, and I do not like it, I simply delete it, and never think about it again.
By coupling a game demo to a movie, I am forced to forever have to keep the game demo, whether I like it or not.
If I buy a movie, I want a movie, with extras pertaining to the movie.
If I buy a movie, I am not buying a game.
When I buy a game, I do not expect a movie trailer to come with it.
That is not why I bought the game.
Both demos and trailers are generally free on the Playstation Network.
Why do I need to have a movie tie-in game be forced onto me.
Most movie tie-in games suck.
I don't like to think about them.
Nor do I want them on my Blu-Ray disc, taking up space that could be used for my special features that I love so much.
Disclaimer to above post:

I know that this post has been very a roundabout one, so please forgive me.
It's 3:15 in the morning, and I am just getting done watching a 6 hour Dr. Who marathon(damn you Netflix!
), and I am tired.
So please forgive me.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30084972</id>
	<title>Re:I'm so over these stupid shiny plastic discs</title>
	<author>reashlin</author>
	<datestamp>1258112100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh I get it, your so sick of moving from format to format, media to media, license to license that your ready to jump ship from Blu-ray to a subscription download service. Good on ya.<br> <br>You'd be better off just keeping the old 'players' around and not jumping on every new bandwagon that rolls into town. You can still buy decent combined DVD/VHS players so its won't likely take up too much space on that front. I'm sure you've still got your 360 around and likely a PS3. So I don't see why you have to replace anything.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh I get it , your so sick of moving from format to format , media to media , license to license that your ready to jump ship from Blu-ray to a subscription download service .
Good on ya .
You 'd be better off just keeping the old 'players ' around and not jumping on every new bandwagon that rolls into town .
You can still buy decent combined DVD/VHS players so its wo n't likely take up too much space on that front .
I 'm sure you 've still got your 360 around and likely a PS3 .
So I do n't see why you have to replace anything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh I get it, your so sick of moving from format to format, media to media, license to license that your ready to jump ship from Blu-ray to a subscription download service.
Good on ya.
You'd be better off just keeping the old 'players' around and not jumping on every new bandwagon that rolls into town.
You can still buy decent combined DVD/VHS players so its won't likely take up too much space on that front.
I'm sure you've still got your 360 around and likely a PS3.
So I don't see why you have to replace anything.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30094562</id>
	<title>Re:Blu-ray is dead.</title>
	<author>Gizzmonic</author>
	<datestamp>1258127520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Can't these companies get it through their thick skulls that Bluray is a dead on arrival format? That consumers don't see it as a necessary update to their plain DVDs, which they see as good enough even with the advent of HD televisions?</i></p><p>In the words of the Jesus..."Laughable, mang!"</p><p>If you think Blu-Ray is a failed format, I wonder what you would have thought of LaserDisc, which sold far less than Blu-Ray ever did, yet persisted as a niche format for 20 years.</p><p>Blu-Ray is on the rise, as is HDTV adoption.  This holiday season, we're going to see the first $99 Blu-Ray players, which will broaden adoption even further.  You might be perfectly happy with your VCR and your 27 inch Trinitron, but there's no need to make up some bitter rant about Blu-Ray has failed in the marketplace.  It's just technology-if you don't like it, don't buy it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ca n't these companies get it through their thick skulls that Bluray is a dead on arrival format ?
That consumers do n't see it as a necessary update to their plain DVDs , which they see as good enough even with the advent of HD televisions ? In the words of the Jesus... " Laughable , mang !
" If you think Blu-Ray is a failed format , I wonder what you would have thought of LaserDisc , which sold far less than Blu-Ray ever did , yet persisted as a niche format for 20 years.Blu-Ray is on the rise , as is HDTV adoption .
This holiday season , we 're going to see the first $ 99 Blu-Ray players , which will broaden adoption even further .
You might be perfectly happy with your VCR and your 27 inch Trinitron , but there 's no need to make up some bitter rant about Blu-Ray has failed in the marketplace .
It 's just technology-if you do n't like it , do n't buy it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can't these companies get it through their thick skulls that Bluray is a dead on arrival format?
That consumers don't see it as a necessary update to their plain DVDs, which they see as good enough even with the advent of HD televisions?In the words of the Jesus..."Laughable, mang!
"If you think Blu-Ray is a failed format, I wonder what you would have thought of LaserDisc, which sold far less than Blu-Ray ever did, yet persisted as a niche format for 20 years.Blu-Ray is on the rise, as is HDTV adoption.
This holiday season, we're going to see the first $99 Blu-Ray players, which will broaden adoption even further.
You might be perfectly happy with your VCR and your 27 inch Trinitron, but there's no need to make up some bitter rant about Blu-Ray has failed in the marketplace.
It's just technology-if you don't like it, don't buy it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30085882</id>
	<title>Re:I'm so over these stupid shiny plastic discs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258123080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt;&gt;jumped on the HD-DVD bandwagon</p><p>That's your own dumb fault.  If you had been smart (like me<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-) ), you would have patiently waited for the BD and HDDVD war to be over.  I learned that early on, when I bought Betamax instead of VHS.    Better to wait to see who has won.</p><p>
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<tokenext>&gt; &gt; &gt; jumped on the HD-DVD bandwagonThat 's your own dumb fault .
If you had been smart ( like me ; - ) ) , you would have patiently waited for the BD and HDDVD war to be over .
I learned that early on , when I bought Betamax instead of VHS .
Better to wait to see who has won .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt;&gt;jumped on the HD-DVD bandwagonThat's your own dumb fault.
If you had been smart (like me ;-) ), you would have patiently waited for the BD and HDDVD war to be over.
I learned that early on, when I bought Betamax instead of VHS.
Better to wait to see who has won.
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	<title>Re:I just want to play for 1h so game demos are gr</title>
	<author>dunezone</author>
	<datestamp>1258127520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>When the game sucks you release the demo weeks after the initial release, thus suckering people into buying the real product because they wont / cant wait, only to be disappointed.
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Although, the recent trend has been to release a early beta and when you run into problems they say its beta and it will be fixed in the commercial release.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When the game sucks you release the demo weeks after the initial release , thus suckering people into buying the real product because they wont / cant wait , only to be disappointed .
Although , the recent trend has been to release a early beta and when you run into problems they say its beta and it will be fixed in the commercial release .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When the game sucks you release the demo weeks after the initial release, thus suckering people into buying the real product because they wont / cant wait, only to be disappointed.
Although, the recent trend has been to release a early beta and when you run into problems they say its beta and it will be fixed in the commercial release.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Too easy...</title>
	<author>urIkon</author>
	<datestamp>1258051080000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>I'm amazed you can exhibit such foresight from under that bridge!</p><p>I often scoff at marketing ploys, but game demos are a good thing. As long as this doesn't increase the price of the discs, this is more value for your dollar- it isn't as if you have to play the demo to watch your movie.</p><p>Now, just watch them bundle some highly anticipated game demo exclusively with some crap film- SURPRISE HOME MOVIE SALES HIT OF THE SUMMER!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm amazed you can exhibit such foresight from under that bridge ! I often scoff at marketing ploys , but game demos are a good thing .
As long as this does n't increase the price of the discs , this is more value for your dollar- it is n't as if you have to play the demo to watch your movie.Now , just watch them bundle some highly anticipated game demo exclusively with some crap film- SURPRISE HOME MOVIE SALES HIT OF THE SUMMER !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm amazed you can exhibit such foresight from under that bridge!I often scoff at marketing ploys, but game demos are a good thing.
As long as this doesn't increase the price of the discs, this is more value for your dollar- it isn't as if you have to play the demo to watch your movie.Now, just watch them bundle some highly anticipated game demo exclusively with some crap film- SURPRISE HOME MOVIE SALES HIT OF THE SUMMER!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30084660</id>
	<title>PS3 *CAN* be used as a DVR</title>
	<author>117</author>
	<datestamp>1258107120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
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	<htmltext>From TFA:<p><div class="quote"><p>just about the only thing you can't do with a PS3 is use it as a DVR.</p></div><p>This might be true in the US, but in other regions the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayTV" title="wikipedia.org">PlayTV</a> [wikipedia.org] hardware add-on enables you to do exactly that.  PlayTV allows you to watch live free-to-air TV and HDTV through the PS3, and record those programs to the PS3's hard drive.

I bought the PlayTV add-on (I'm in the UK) as it was cheaper than buying a standalone DVR for free-to-air broadcasts, and have found it to be easier to use and far more reliable than the standalone alternatives available here</p></div>
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<tokenext>From TFA : just about the only thing you ca n't do with a PS3 is use it as a DVR.This might be true in the US , but in other regions the PlayTV [ wikipedia.org ] hardware add-on enables you to do exactly that .
PlayTV allows you to watch live free-to-air TV and HDTV through the PS3 , and record those programs to the PS3 's hard drive .
I bought the PlayTV add-on ( I 'm in the UK ) as it was cheaper than buying a standalone DVR for free-to-air broadcasts , and have found it to be easier to use and far more reliable than the standalone alternatives available here</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From TFA:just about the only thing you can't do with a PS3 is use it as a DVR.This might be true in the US, but in other regions the PlayTV [wikipedia.org] hardware add-on enables you to do exactly that.
PlayTV allows you to watch live free-to-air TV and HDTV through the PS3, and record those programs to the PS3's hard drive.
I bought the PlayTV add-on (I'm in the UK) as it was cheaper than buying a standalone DVR for free-to-air broadcasts, and have found it to be easier to use and far more reliable than the standalone alternatives available here
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	<title>Re:Too easy...</title>
	<author>PopeRatzo</author>
	<datestamp>1258123320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>but game demos are a good thing</p></div></blockquote><p>Especially since you can download them from the Playstation Store without having to shell out for the Blue Ray version of <b>2013 - This Time it's for Real</b> starring Ralph Fiennes and Liam Neeson as reincarnated identical twin Mayan princes who travel forward in time to <i>finish what their calendar only started</i>.</p></div>
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<tokenext>but game demos are a good thingEspecially since you can download them from the Playstation Store without having to shell out for the Blue Ray version of 2013 - This Time it 's for Real starring Ralph Fiennes and Liam Neeson as reincarnated identical twin Mayan princes who travel forward in time to finish what their calendar only started .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but game demos are a good thingEspecially since you can download them from the Playstation Store without having to shell out for the Blue Ray version of 2013 - This Time it's for Real starring Ralph Fiennes and Liam Neeson as reincarnated identical twin Mayan princes who travel forward in time to finish what their calendar only started.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30084182</id>
	<title>I'm so over these stupid shiny plastic discs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258142520000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>I really hope that bluray is the last of this shiny plastic disc phenomenon.  I had a somewhat respectable VHS collection, then amassed a healthy DVD collection, jumped on the HD-DVD bandwagon with the HD player add-on for the 360 before that battle was lost, and now I've got about the same number of bluray discs.</p><p>We've been told time and again, when you buy an album, or a copy of a movie, you don't *own* that copy, you have merely licensed it.  So I'm not allowed to make a backup for personal use of the copy of my license, when the new format comes out, I have to buy a new "license" for the IP I have already licensed.... I am sooo ready to simply "license" movies via a Netflix like subscription service....I'll pay $20/month (less than the cost of 2 premium cable TV channels) if I can "rent" any movie I like on the fly.  I've already got a 20 Mb/s internet connection, and with DOCSIS 3.0 coming to my area next year, should be fast enough to stream reasonably compressed HD content.  No more need to buy and keep track of fragile little discs...or have to re-purchase when the next format comes out 12 years later.</p><p>I'm just over it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I really hope that bluray is the last of this shiny plastic disc phenomenon .
I had a somewhat respectable VHS collection , then amassed a healthy DVD collection , jumped on the HD-DVD bandwagon with the HD player add-on for the 360 before that battle was lost , and now I 've got about the same number of bluray discs.We 've been told time and again , when you buy an album , or a copy of a movie , you do n't * own * that copy , you have merely licensed it .
So I 'm not allowed to make a backup for personal use of the copy of my license , when the new format comes out , I have to buy a new " license " for the IP I have already licensed.... I am sooo ready to simply " license " movies via a Netflix like subscription service....I 'll pay $ 20/month ( less than the cost of 2 premium cable TV channels ) if I can " rent " any movie I like on the fly .
I 've already got a 20 Mb/s internet connection , and with DOCSIS 3.0 coming to my area next year , should be fast enough to stream reasonably compressed HD content .
No more need to buy and keep track of fragile little discs...or have to re-purchase when the next format comes out 12 years later.I 'm just over it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really hope that bluray is the last of this shiny plastic disc phenomenon.
I had a somewhat respectable VHS collection, then amassed a healthy DVD collection, jumped on the HD-DVD bandwagon with the HD player add-on for the 360 before that battle was lost, and now I've got about the same number of bluray discs.We've been told time and again, when you buy an album, or a copy of a movie, you don't *own* that copy, you have merely licensed it.
So I'm not allowed to make a backup for personal use of the copy of my license, when the new format comes out, I have to buy a new "license" for the IP I have already licensed.... I am sooo ready to simply "license" movies via a Netflix like subscription service....I'll pay $20/month (less than the cost of 2 premium cable TV channels) if I can "rent" any movie I like on the fly.
I've already got a 20 Mb/s internet connection, and with DOCSIS 3.0 coming to my area next year, should be fast enough to stream reasonably compressed HD content.
No more need to buy and keep track of fragile little discs...or have to re-purchase when the next format comes out 12 years later.I'm just over it.</sentencetext>
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	<title>How much data?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258107060000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>The picture quality of DVDs is much better than the blu ray advertisements try to make you believe (at least on non-crap players) so if they sacrifice to much disk space for demos, the picture quality of the movies might get to close to the DVD quality to have a reason for a switch to blu ray...</htmltext>
<tokenext>The picture quality of DVDs is much better than the blu ray advertisements try to make you believe ( at least on non-crap players ) so if they sacrifice to much disk space for demos , the picture quality of the movies might get to close to the DVD quality to have a reason for a switch to blu ray.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The picture quality of DVDs is much better than the blu ray advertisements try to make you believe (at least on non-crap players) so if they sacrifice to much disk space for demos, the picture quality of the movies might get to close to the DVD quality to have a reason for a switch to blu ray...</sentencetext>
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--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30085814
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30084678
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30086878
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-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30084638
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30086718
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-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30084972
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30086734
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30084642
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30085882
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	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30083844
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30084186
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-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30083992
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30085710
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30083940
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_0522255.30085758
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