<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_12_1559253</id>
	<title>Keeping Pacemakers Safe From Hackers</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1258020480000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"Researchers from the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich and the French National Institute for Research in Computer Science and Control have now developed a scheme for <a href="http://www.technologyreview.in/computing/23923/">protecting implantable medical devices against wireless attacks</a>. The approach relies on using ultrasound waves to determine the exact distance between a medical device and the wireless reader attempting to communicate with it."</i> I had no idea that things have gotten so bad that hearts are being hacked.</htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " Researchers from the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich and the French National Institute for Research in Computer Science and Control have now developed a scheme for protecting implantable medical devices against wireless attacks .
The approach relies on using ultrasound waves to determine the exact distance between a medical device and the wireless reader attempting to communicate with it .
" I had no idea that things have gotten so bad that hearts are being hacked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "Researchers from the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich and the French National Institute for Research in Computer Science and Control have now developed a scheme for protecting implantable medical devices against wireless attacks.
The approach relies on using ultrasound waves to determine the exact distance between a medical device and the wireless reader attempting to communicate with it.
" I had no idea that things have gotten so bad that hearts are being hacked.</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080128</id>
	<title>Best way to someone heart...</title>
	<author>cwike</author>
	<datestamp>1258024380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wireless?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wireless ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wireless?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080286</id>
	<title>Wireless Attacks?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258024980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Like bullets?  Or would only a throwing ax count as hacking?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Like bullets ?
Or would only a throwing ax count as hacking ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like bullets?
Or would only a throwing ax count as hacking?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080762</id>
	<title>Re:I can see it now...</title>
	<author>e2d2</author>
	<datestamp>1258026960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Someday, some geek will try to overclock his artificial heart...</i></p><p>He'll be following in the footsteps of the ones that already have, like coke and meth junkies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Someday , some geek will try to overclock his artificial heart...He 'll be following in the footsteps of the ones that already have , like coke and meth junkies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someday, some geek will try to overclock his artificial heart...He'll be following in the footsteps of the ones that already have, like coke and meth junkies.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30084344</id>
	<title>Hang on, didn't RSA get encryption going in ...</title>
	<author>dbIII</author>
	<datestamp>1258144740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hang on, didn't RSA get encryption going in pacemakers some time ago when they were still using Z80 cpus to drive the things?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hang on , did n't RSA get encryption going in pacemakers some time ago when they were still using Z80 cpus to drive the things ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hang on, didn't RSA get encryption going in pacemakers some time ago when they were still using Z80 cpus to drive the things?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30081498</id>
	<title>Re:From someone with an implant..</title>
	<author>StikyPad</author>
	<datestamp>1258030680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not a doctor, but I've been watching Glenn Beck, and here's what I think he'd have to say:</p><p>Why bother fixing it?  They're just going to implant tiny remote-controlled exploding devices in the chest cavities of all citizens once the Socialist "healthcare" program takes effect.  Come on, people, WAKE UP!!!  I mean.... *guffaw*...... *rolls eyes*.....  Whore!!  I'm not saying *you* are a whore, but certainly we can all agree that whores want free healthcare, therefore people who want free healthcare are whores!  *Expression of poignant thought*</p><p>Don't forget, today is 11/13, the two month anniversary of 913!!!!  Grassroots Tea Party forever!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not a doctor , but I 've been watching Glenn Beck , and here 's what I think he 'd have to say : Why bother fixing it ?
They 're just going to implant tiny remote-controlled exploding devices in the chest cavities of all citizens once the Socialist " healthcare " program takes effect .
Come on , people , WAKE UP ! ! !
I mean.... * guffaw * ...... * rolls eyes * .... .
Whore ! ! I 'm not saying * you * are a whore , but certainly we can all agree that whores want free healthcare , therefore people who want free healthcare are whores !
* Expression of poignant thought * Do n't forget , today is 11/13 , the two month anniversary of 913 ! ! ! !
Grassroots Tea Party forever !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not a doctor, but I've been watching Glenn Beck, and here's what I think he'd have to say:Why bother fixing it?
They're just going to implant tiny remote-controlled exploding devices in the chest cavities of all citizens once the Socialist "healthcare" program takes effect.
Come on, people, WAKE UP!!!
I mean.... *guffaw*...... *rolls eyes*.....
Whore!!  I'm not saying *you* are a whore, but certainly we can all agree that whores want free healthcare, therefore people who want free healthcare are whores!
*Expression of poignant thought*Don't forget, today is 11/13, the two month anniversary of 913!!!!
Grassroots Tea Party forever!
!</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080282</id>
	<title>Ghost in the Shell</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258024980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Reminds me of the anime Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex where the 'Laughing Man' (alleged terrorist) hacks people's cybernetic eyes to escape sticky situations.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Reminds me of the anime Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex where the 'Laughing Man ' ( alleged terrorist ) hacks people 's cybernetic eyes to escape sticky situations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reminds me of the anime Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex where the 'Laughing Man' (alleged terrorist) hacks people's cybernetic eyes to escape sticky situations.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080442</id>
	<title>Re:No Locked Hardware!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258025580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No only should it be open, but there should be an app store for the pace maker. Think of all the exciting heart rhythms you could purchase.</p><p>Maybe they could integrate it to my media pc and home entertainment center!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No only should it be open , but there should be an app store for the pace maker .
Think of all the exciting heart rhythms you could purchase.Maybe they could integrate it to my media pc and home entertainment center !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No only should it be open, but there should be an app store for the pace maker.
Think of all the exciting heart rhythms you could purchase.Maybe they could integrate it to my media pc and home entertainment center!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080118</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30083216</id>
	<title>At least it's a remote attack ...</title>
	<author>Enonu</author>
	<datestamp>1258044000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh Thufir, I see they've installed your heart plug already.... Don't be angry. Everyone gets one here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh Thufir , I see they 've installed your heart plug already.... Do n't be angry .
Everyone gets one here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh Thufir, I see they've installed your heart plug already.... Don't be angry.
Everyone gets one here.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30083520</id>
	<title>Sorry...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258047300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>it doesn't work that way.  A stronger transmitter won't help, because the communications is two ways.  Physical proximity is required and many devices require a magnet to trip a reed relay in the device before communications can occur.  Further, if you look at the research, it requires recording of commands/protocol from a programmer before you can communicate with a device.  While some control units (remotes) can do some limited set of functions, the more dangerous interactions require a physician and programmer.  Since these are prescription devices, changing the settings would be illegal (practicing medicine without a license.)  Wouldn't it be easier to just hit the person with a baseball bat?  You need about the same physical distance...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>it does n't work that way .
A stronger transmitter wo n't help , because the communications is two ways .
Physical proximity is required and many devices require a magnet to trip a reed relay in the device before communications can occur .
Further , if you look at the research , it requires recording of commands/protocol from a programmer before you can communicate with a device .
While some control units ( remotes ) can do some limited set of functions , the more dangerous interactions require a physician and programmer .
Since these are prescription devices , changing the settings would be illegal ( practicing medicine without a license .
) Would n't it be easier to just hit the person with a baseball bat ?
You need about the same physical distance.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it doesn't work that way.
A stronger transmitter won't help, because the communications is two ways.
Physical proximity is required and many devices require a magnet to trip a reed relay in the device before communications can occur.
Further, if you look at the research, it requires recording of commands/protocol from a programmer before you can communicate with a device.
While some control units (remotes) can do some limited set of functions, the more dangerous interactions require a physician and programmer.
Since these are prescription devices, changing the settings would be illegal (practicing medicine without a license.
)  Wouldn't it be easier to just hit the person with a baseball bat?
You need about the same physical distance...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080100</id>
	<title>Hacking hearts</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258024320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If I could hack her heart, she'd <b>really</b> love me...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If I could hack her heart , she 'd really love me.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I could hack her heart, she'd really love me...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080164</id>
	<title>From someone with an implant..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258024560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have a spinal implant, which is basically an implanted tens-unit, that I use to block the pain from the degenerative disease I have. Although the device has a top level setting, it still hurts if I crank it up that far. If someone was able to remotely turn on my device and turn the intensity up and shorten the waveform they could bring me to my knees. If I couldn't turn it off I'd be in some serious trouble, since I couldn't flee.
<br> <br>
As much as it's not life-threatening in my case, it's still pretty damn scary. I can't imagine having a pacemaker that could be disrupted remotely. Although talk about a great tool for the CIA for remote-kills.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a spinal implant , which is basically an implanted tens-unit , that I use to block the pain from the degenerative disease I have .
Although the device has a top level setting , it still hurts if I crank it up that far .
If someone was able to remotely turn on my device and turn the intensity up and shorten the waveform they could bring me to my knees .
If I could n't turn it off I 'd be in some serious trouble , since I could n't flee .
As much as it 's not life-threatening in my case , it 's still pretty damn scary .
I ca n't imagine having a pacemaker that could be disrupted remotely .
Although talk about a great tool for the CIA for remote-kills .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a spinal implant, which is basically an implanted tens-unit, that I use to block the pain from the degenerative disease I have.
Although the device has a top level setting, it still hurts if I crank it up that far.
If someone was able to remotely turn on my device and turn the intensity up and shorten the waveform they could bring me to my knees.
If I couldn't turn it off I'd be in some serious trouble, since I couldn't flee.
As much as it's not life-threatening in my case, it's still pretty damn scary.
I can't imagine having a pacemaker that could be disrupted remotely.
Although talk about a great tool for the CIA for remote-kills.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30082902</id>
	<title>They do it in the book Rain Fall</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258041480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A pretty decent book:<br>http://www.amazon.com/dp/045120915X/ref=nosim?tag=sealarksgoodbook&amp;link\_code=as3&amp;creative=373489&amp;camp=211189</p><p>In the first chapter the main guy assassinates someone with a wireless pacemaker-hacking device<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A pretty decent book : http : //www.amazon.com/dp/045120915X/ref = nosim ? tag = sealarksgoodbook&amp;link \ _code = as3&amp;creative = 373489&amp;camp = 211189In the first chapter the main guy assassinates someone with a wireless pacemaker-hacking device : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A pretty decent book:http://www.amazon.com/dp/045120915X/ref=nosim?tag=sealarksgoodbook&amp;link\_code=as3&amp;creative=373489&amp;camp=211189In the first chapter the main guy assassinates someone with a wireless pacemaker-hacking device :)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30082192</id>
	<title>The reality of the situation</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258035000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I used to help create medical implants.  Yes, they're susceptible to hacking, but in reality you don't have much to worry about.</p><p>First, most hackers do not have access to medical implants.  Cost wise, a new one is about the same cost as car.  Sure you might somehow be able to get one used, but most devices run on batteries you'd have to cut open their titanium cases to repower them since the communication sessions are very power intensive.  To properly reverse engineer the protocol, you also need the programmer which usually only doctors have and are even more expensive and rarer than the devices.  So the barrier of entry into hacking a medical implant is very high.</p><p>Second, for most devices you have to be literally a few inches away from the device to activate a communication session.  The activation circuitry is usually passively powered.  It is very unlikely somebody wouldn't notice somebody holding a programmer by their chest.  If they're really sneaky they might be able to hijack a communication session in process, but at that point they victim is  already in or very near the doctor's office.</p><p>Third, medical implants do not have a standard communication protocol.  Every manufacturer has a different protocol and AFAIK they are all proprietary, so you need to reverse engineer them all unless you know what kind of device you plan on communicating with ahead of time.</p><p>So yes, it is security through obscurity, but the devices are tiny micro controllers and the programmers are doing their damnest to insure they have as few bugs as possible and use as little power as possible.  The electrical engineers will laugh at adding additional circuitry onto a board for this security threat since inside of the human body is some of the most expensive real estate on the planet.  The researches are creating solutions to a problem that is practically non existent.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I used to help create medical implants .
Yes , they 're susceptible to hacking , but in reality you do n't have much to worry about.First , most hackers do not have access to medical implants .
Cost wise , a new one is about the same cost as car .
Sure you might somehow be able to get one used , but most devices run on batteries you 'd have to cut open their titanium cases to repower them since the communication sessions are very power intensive .
To properly reverse engineer the protocol , you also need the programmer which usually only doctors have and are even more expensive and rarer than the devices .
So the barrier of entry into hacking a medical implant is very high.Second , for most devices you have to be literally a few inches away from the device to activate a communication session .
The activation circuitry is usually passively powered .
It is very unlikely somebody would n't notice somebody holding a programmer by their chest .
If they 're really sneaky they might be able to hijack a communication session in process , but at that point they victim is already in or very near the doctor 's office.Third , medical implants do not have a standard communication protocol .
Every manufacturer has a different protocol and AFAIK they are all proprietary , so you need to reverse engineer them all unless you know what kind of device you plan on communicating with ahead of time.So yes , it is security through obscurity , but the devices are tiny micro controllers and the programmers are doing their damnest to insure they have as few bugs as possible and use as little power as possible .
The electrical engineers will laugh at adding additional circuitry onto a board for this security threat since inside of the human body is some of the most expensive real estate on the planet .
The researches are creating solutions to a problem that is practically non existent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used to help create medical implants.
Yes, they're susceptible to hacking, but in reality you don't have much to worry about.First, most hackers do not have access to medical implants.
Cost wise, a new one is about the same cost as car.
Sure you might somehow be able to get one used, but most devices run on batteries you'd have to cut open their titanium cases to repower them since the communication sessions are very power intensive.
To properly reverse engineer the protocol, you also need the programmer which usually only doctors have and are even more expensive and rarer than the devices.
So the barrier of entry into hacking a medical implant is very high.Second, for most devices you have to be literally a few inches away from the device to activate a communication session.
The activation circuitry is usually passively powered.
It is very unlikely somebody wouldn't notice somebody holding a programmer by their chest.
If they're really sneaky they might be able to hijack a communication session in process, but at that point they victim is  already in or very near the doctor's office.Third, medical implants do not have a standard communication protocol.
Every manufacturer has a different protocol and AFAIK they are all proprietary, so you need to reverse engineer them all unless you know what kind of device you plan on communicating with ahead of time.So yes, it is security through obscurity, but the devices are tiny micro controllers and the programmers are doing their damnest to insure they have as few bugs as possible and use as little power as possible.
The electrical engineers will laugh at adding additional circuitry onto a board for this security threat since inside of the human body is some of the most expensive real estate on the planet.
The researches are creating solutions to a problem that is practically non existent.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080508</id>
	<title>Oh I can see it too...</title>
	<author>hellfire</author>
	<datestamp>1258025880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And some bad metal band will actually write a song called "overclock my heart".  I can see the tributes to Motley Crue now...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And some bad metal band will actually write a song called " overclock my heart " .
I can see the tributes to Motley Crue now.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And some bad metal band will actually write a song called "overclock my heart".
I can see the tributes to Motley Crue now...</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30083978</id>
	<title>Prosthetics</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258053300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This would probably apply to prosthetics as well.  Many of the higher end microprocessor controlled knees have many sensors that can be monitored, and parameters that can be tuned via a wireless link.</p><p><a href="http://www.freedom-innovations.com/knees/index.html" title="freedom-innovations.com" rel="nofollow">Like this one.</a> [freedom-innovations.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This would probably apply to prosthetics as well .
Many of the higher end microprocessor controlled knees have many sensors that can be monitored , and parameters that can be tuned via a wireless link.Like this one .
[ freedom-innovations.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This would probably apply to prosthetics as well.
Many of the higher end microprocessor controlled knees have many sensors that can be monitored, and parameters that can be tuned via a wireless link.Like this one.
[freedom-innovations.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30081312</id>
	<title>Oblig</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258029660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't go hacking my heart<br>
I could if I tried<br>
Honey please forget my wireless<br>
Baby I'm not that kind<br>
Don't go hacking my heart<br>
You take the beat out of me<br>
Honey when you knocked on my port<br>
My heart gave you my key<br>
Nobody knows it<br>
When I was down<br>
I was your pawn<br>
Nobody knows it<br>
Right from the start<br>
You stopped my heart<br>
You stopped my heart<br>
So don't go hacking my heart<br>
I won't go hacking your heart<br>
Don't go hacking my heart<br>
<br> <br>On a slighly different note. I wonder if Captain Crunch could freak an ear implant?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't go hacking my heart I could if I tried Honey please forget my wireless Baby I 'm not that kind Do n't go hacking my heart You take the beat out of me Honey when you knocked on my port My heart gave you my key Nobody knows it When I was down I was your pawn Nobody knows it Right from the start You stopped my heart You stopped my heart So do n't go hacking my heart I wo n't go hacking your heart Do n't go hacking my heart On a slighly different note .
I wonder if Captain Crunch could freak an ear implant ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't go hacking my heart
I could if I tried
Honey please forget my wireless
Baby I'm not that kind
Don't go hacking my heart
You take the beat out of me
Honey when you knocked on my port
My heart gave you my key
Nobody knows it
When I was down
I was your pawn
Nobody knows it
Right from the start
You stopped my heart
You stopped my heart
So don't go hacking my heart
I won't go hacking your heart
Don't go hacking my heart
 On a slighly different note.
I wonder if Captain Crunch could freak an ear implant?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30082780</id>
	<title>DoS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258040520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If I can't have her heart I'll DoS hers so no one can.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If I ca n't have her heart I 'll DoS hers so no one can .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I can't have her heart I'll DoS hers so no one can.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30081286</id>
	<title>Just ask my dad</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258029480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My dad got a defibrillator fitted a year back. It has bluetooth and 5mb of memory. I didn't want to connect to it since killing a parent at Christmas would probably sour the mood.</p><p>3 months ago he got it updated and was ill for 4 weeks until a new patch came(although I suspect he milked it a bit for attention). Apparently an overflow in the software was causing small discharges! We don't need to protect against hackers, protecting against the programmers would be a good start. At least I can go around and say that my doctor flashed my dad.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..AC because I don't want my family medical history on the net.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My dad got a defibrillator fitted a year back .
It has bluetooth and 5mb of memory .
I did n't want to connect to it since killing a parent at Christmas would probably sour the mood.3 months ago he got it updated and was ill for 4 weeks until a new patch came ( although I suspect he milked it a bit for attention ) .
Apparently an overflow in the software was causing small discharges !
We do n't need to protect against hackers , protecting against the programmers would be a good start .
At least I can go around and say that my doctor flashed my dad .
: D ..AC because I do n't want my family medical history on the net .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My dad got a defibrillator fitted a year back.
It has bluetooth and 5mb of memory.
I didn't want to connect to it since killing a parent at Christmas would probably sour the mood.3 months ago he got it updated and was ill for 4 weeks until a new patch came(although I suspect he milked it a bit for attention).
Apparently an overflow in the software was causing small discharges!
We don't need to protect against hackers, protecting against the programmers would be a good start.
At least I can go around and say that my doctor flashed my dad.
:D ..AC because I don't want my family medical history on the net.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080782</id>
	<title>Cardiologist confused...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258027020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>by the man's heart beating in time to Beyonce's Single Ladies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>by the man 's heart beating in time to Beyonce 's Single Ladies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>by the man's heart beating in time to Beyonce's Single Ladies.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30083594</id>
	<title>Re:No Locked Hardware!</title>
	<author>FatdogHaiku</author>
	<datestamp>1258048200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I hope so. I want to see them upgrade their own firmware over a wireless connection... <br>Oh, who wants Microwave Pizza?<br>NOOOooooooo..... CARRIER</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope so .
I want to see them upgrade their own firmware over a wireless connection... Oh , who wants Microwave Pizza ? NOOOooooooo..... CARRIER</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope so.
I want to see them upgrade their own firmware over a wireless connection... Oh, who wants Microwave Pizza?NOOOooooooo..... CARRIER</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080118</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080342</id>
	<title>Let's research how to defeat this anyway!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258025280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>have now developed a scheme for protecting implantable medical devices against wireless attacks.</p></div></blockquote><p>The same <a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1441692&amp;cid=30077608" title="slashdot.org">kind of people</a> [slashdot.org], who'd seek to learn, how to DoS a police wire-tap &mdash; and publish their "research" for all, could try to see, how to defeat <em>this</em> scheme too. And with the same justifications and excuses:
</p><ul> <li>We need to know, how reliable the method is.</li>
<li>We are just <em>providing</em> information, even if <em>using</em> it is illegal (or unethical).</li>
</ul><p>Somehow, I don't think, they'll be as well accepted as those other guys are... Which is really silly, because both are, essentially, sociopaths... Even if we all instinctively sympathize with the subject of a government wiretap, and the government <em>could</em> on occasion, be in the wrong, it is far more likely, that they are onto something real. (And if they aren't, then nothing particularly bad will happen to their suspect.)

</p><p>An implant-wearer could, just as easily, be a real scumbag and somebody wanting to pain (or outright kill) him, could be doing the right thing...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>have now developed a scheme for protecting implantable medical devices against wireless attacks.The same kind of people [ slashdot.org ] , who 'd seek to learn , how to DoS a police wire-tap    and publish their " research " for all , could try to see , how to defeat this scheme too .
And with the same justifications and excuses : We need to know , how reliable the method is .
We are just providing information , even if using it is illegal ( or unethical ) .
Somehow , I do n't think , they 'll be as well accepted as those other guys are... Which is really silly , because both are , essentially , sociopaths... Even if we all instinctively sympathize with the subject of a government wiretap , and the government could on occasion , be in the wrong , it is far more likely , that they are onto something real .
( And if they are n't , then nothing particularly bad will happen to their suspect .
) An implant-wearer could , just as easily , be a real scumbag and somebody wanting to pain ( or outright kill ) him , could be doing the right thing.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>have now developed a scheme for protecting implantable medical devices against wireless attacks.The same kind of people [slashdot.org], who'd seek to learn, how to DoS a police wire-tap — and publish their "research" for all, could try to see, how to defeat this scheme too.
And with the same justifications and excuses:
 We need to know, how reliable the method is.
We are just providing information, even if using it is illegal (or unethical).
Somehow, I don't think, they'll be as well accepted as those other guys are... Which is really silly, because both are, essentially, sociopaths... Even if we all instinctively sympathize with the subject of a government wiretap, and the government could on occasion, be in the wrong, it is far more likely, that they are onto something real.
(And if they aren't, then nothing particularly bad will happen to their suspect.
)

An implant-wearer could, just as easily, be a real scumbag and somebody wanting to pain (or outright kill) him, could be doing the right thing...
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080124</id>
	<title>Heard a 'calibration' process</title>
	<author>mjensen</author>
	<datestamp>1258024380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Coworker had a pacemaker put in.  Said she held on to two connectors and they could change the rate by sending signals through one arm, through the pacemaker to the receiver in the other.</p><p>I joked with the tone generator (for phone equipment) with other employees, but not with her.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Coworker had a pacemaker put in .
Said she held on to two connectors and they could change the rate by sending signals through one arm , through the pacemaker to the receiver in the other.I joked with the tone generator ( for phone equipment ) with other employees , but not with her .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Coworker had a pacemaker put in.
Said she held on to two connectors and they could change the rate by sending signals through one arm, through the pacemaker to the receiver in the other.I joked with the tone generator (for phone equipment) with other employees, but not with her.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30081266</id>
	<title>63 comments and still..</title>
	<author>StikyPad</author>
	<datestamp>1258029360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This gives a whole new meaning to heart attack.</p><p>Someone had to say it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This gives a whole new meaning to heart attack.Someone had to say it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This gives a whole new meaning to heart attack.Someone had to say it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080684</id>
	<title>Re:I can see it now...</title>
	<author>Dunbal</author>
	<datestamp>1258026600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Someday, some geek will try to overclock his artificial heart...</i></p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Heck people overclock their normal hearts today anyway. It's called cocaine...</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I've actually seen someone with a <a href="http://emj.bmj.com/cgi/content/extract/21/2/252" title="bmj.com">cocaine induced</a> [bmj.com] <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long\_QT\_syndrome" title="wikipedia.org">long QT syndrome</a> [wikipedia.org]. A hairy day in the ER that was, considering he was psychotic at the time... it took quite a few of us to hold him still enough to get the IV going.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Someday , some geek will try to overclock his artificial heart.. .       Heck people overclock their normal hearts today anyway .
It 's called cocaine.. .       I 've actually seen someone with a cocaine induced [ bmj.com ] long QT syndrome [ wikipedia.org ] .
A hairy day in the ER that was , considering he was psychotic at the time... it took quite a few of us to hold him still enough to get the IV going .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someday, some geek will try to overclock his artificial heart...
      Heck people overclock their normal hearts today anyway.
It's called cocaine...
      I've actually seen someone with a cocaine induced [bmj.com] long QT syndrome [wikipedia.org].
A hairy day in the ER that was, considering he was psychotic at the time... it took quite a few of us to hold him still enough to get the IV going.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080190</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080526</id>
	<title>Winning the hearts and minds</title>
	<author>slackoon</author>
	<datestamp>1258025940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>One half of winning the hearts and minds of the people could be done using only a wireless PDA</htmltext>
<tokenext>One half of winning the hearts and minds of the people could be done using only a wireless PDA</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One half of winning the hearts and minds of the people could be done using only a wireless PDA</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080208</id>
	<title>Too soon?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258024680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Someone hacked Michael Jackson's pacemaker.</p><p>Apparently after that, his heart just couldn't <i>beat it</i>.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Someone hacked Michael Jackson 's pacemaker.Apparently after that , his heart just could n't beat it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someone hacked Michael Jackson's pacemaker.Apparently after that, his heart just couldn't beat it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080624</id>
	<title>One of the nicest complements I ever got ...</title>
	<author>Ungrounded Lightning</author>
	<datestamp>1258026360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... was when a colleague (in a discussion on software quality) said I was the only person he'd trust to program his pacemaker.</p><p>Looks like the "web of trust" is getting spun a bit wide these days.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... was when a colleague ( in a discussion on software quality ) said I was the only person he 'd trust to program his pacemaker.Looks like the " web of trust " is getting spun a bit wide these days .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... was when a colleague (in a discussion on software quality) said I was the only person he'd trust to program his pacemaker.Looks like the "web of trust" is getting spun a bit wide these days.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080870</id>
	<title>Re:Let's research how to defeat this anyway!</title>
	<author>maxwell demon</author>
	<datestamp>1258027440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>An implant-wearer could, just as easily, be a real scumbag and somebody wanting to pain (or outright kill) him, could be doing the right thing...</p></div></blockquote><p>Even if the wearer is the worst scumbag on earth, killing him certainly isn't the right thing.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>An implant-wearer could , just as easily , be a real scumbag and somebody wanting to pain ( or outright kill ) him , could be doing the right thing...Even if the wearer is the worst scumbag on earth , killing him certainly is n't the right thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An implant-wearer could, just as easily, be a real scumbag and somebody wanting to pain (or outright kill) him, could be doing the right thing...Even if the wearer is the worst scumbag on earth, killing him certainly isn't the right thing.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080342</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080430</id>
	<title>No reports?</title>
	<author>Misch</author>
	<datestamp>1258025580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I had no idea that things have gotten so bad that hearts are being hacked.</p></div></blockquote><p>I haven't heard any reports of people having them hacked.  We had <a href="http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/08/10/1611238/First-Internet-Connected-Pacemaker-Goes-Live?from=rss" title="slashdot.org">an internet-connected pacemaker</a> [slashdot.org], and reports that they <a href="http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/03/12/1232206" title="slashdot.org">could be hacked</a> [slashdot.org].</p><p>I had always assumed that there was a limited range that the interface device could be used with my pacemaker.  Perhaps this will be incorporated next time I go in for a battery change.</p><p>An EMP would still be more effective as an attack though.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I had no idea that things have gotten so bad that hearts are being hacked.I have n't heard any reports of people having them hacked .
We had an internet-connected pacemaker [ slashdot.org ] , and reports that they could be hacked [ slashdot.org ] .I had always assumed that there was a limited range that the interface device could be used with my pacemaker .
Perhaps this will be incorporated next time I go in for a battery change.An EMP would still be more effective as an attack though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had no idea that things have gotten so bad that hearts are being hacked.I haven't heard any reports of people having them hacked.
We had an internet-connected pacemaker [slashdot.org], and reports that they could be hacked [slashdot.org].I had always assumed that there was a limited range that the interface device could be used with my pacemaker.
Perhaps this will be incorporated next time I go in for a battery change.An EMP would still be more effective as an attack though.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30082292</id>
	<title>How to Hack a Heart</title>
	<author>Sitnalta</author>
	<datestamp>1258036020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Step 1) Take a large, sharp knife.<br>Step 2) Insert forcefully into sternum<br>Step 3) ?<br>Step 4) Profit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Step 1 ) Take a large , sharp knife.Step 2 ) Insert forcefully into sternumStep 3 ) ? Step 4 ) Profit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Step 1) Take a large, sharp knife.Step 2) Insert forcefully into sternumStep 3) ?Step 4) Profit.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080890</id>
	<title>All you need is</title>
	<author>user4574</author>
	<datestamp>1258027500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But all you really need to launch a full-out wireless attack on a pacemaker is a microwave oven. D'you think they're working on a patch for that?</htmltext>
<tokenext>But all you really need to launch a full-out wireless attack on a pacemaker is a microwave oven .
D'you think they 're working on a patch for that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But all you really need to launch a full-out wireless attack on a pacemaker is a microwave oven.
D'you think they're working on a patch for that?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080390</id>
	<title>Re:Hacking hearts</title>
	<author>Narpak</author>
	<datestamp>1258025460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>You'd be pretty heartless to hack a peacemaker.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 'd be pretty heartless to hack a peacemaker .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You'd be pretty heartless to hack a peacemaker.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080100</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080190</id>
	<title>I can see it now...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258024620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Someday, some geek will try to overclock his artificial heart...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Someday , some geek will try to overclock his artificial heart.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someday, some geek will try to overclock his artificial heart...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30083296</id>
	<title>Re:Hacking hearts</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258044780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>can't wait till we can hack her other body parts<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>ca n't wait till we can hack her other body parts : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>can't wait till we can hack her other body parts :-)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080100</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080118</id>
	<title>No Locked Hardware!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258024380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Think anyone will complain that they won't be able to have full access to the hardware they purchased?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Think anyone will complain that they wo n't be able to have full access to the hardware they purchased ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Think anyone will complain that they won't be able to have full access to the hardware they purchased?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080304</id>
	<title>Re:Hacking hearts</title>
	<author>interkin3tic</author>
	<datestamp>1258025160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmm... either a very nerdy joke, or a the motivation of a serial killer...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm... either a very nerdy joke , or a the motivation of a serial killer.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm... either a very nerdy joke, or a the motivation of a serial killer...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080100</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080048</id>
	<title>And somewhere...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258024140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...William Gibson is smiling quietly to himself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...William Gibson is smiling quietly to himself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...William Gibson is smiling quietly to himself.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080122</id>
	<title>Hearts Being Hacked</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258024380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I had no idea that things have gotten so bad that hearts are being hacked.</p></div><p>
Well the article talks about how the threats have been demonstrated in the lab by a fella named Kevin Fu, but it doesn't mention it being a major problem right now:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The potential risks of enabling radio communication in implantable medical devices were first highlighted by Kevin Fu, an assistant professor of computer science at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, and Tadayoshi Kohno, an assistant professor of computer science at the University of Washington. They showed how to glean personal information from such a device, how to drain its batteries remotely, and how to make it malfunction in dangerous ways. The two researchers stress that the threat is minimal now, but argue that it is vital to find ways to protect wireless medical devices before malicious users discover and exploit vulnerabilities.</p></div><p>
So this defense seems primarily like foresight rather than a hindsight, "Shit fixitfixitfixtfixit!" moment...So in response to your pondering, I don't think too many hearts are being hacked right now, nor that things have gotten that bad. Rather, it just seems like two security researchers are doing their job to keep the defensive actions one step ahead of offensive actions...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I had no idea that things have gotten so bad that hearts are being hacked .
Well the article talks about how the threats have been demonstrated in the lab by a fella named Kevin Fu , but it does n't mention it being a major problem right now : The potential risks of enabling radio communication in implantable medical devices were first highlighted by Kevin Fu , an assistant professor of computer science at the University of Massachusetts , Amherst , and Tadayoshi Kohno , an assistant professor of computer science at the University of Washington .
They showed how to glean personal information from such a device , how to drain its batteries remotely , and how to make it malfunction in dangerous ways .
The two researchers stress that the threat is minimal now , but argue that it is vital to find ways to protect wireless medical devices before malicious users discover and exploit vulnerabilities .
So this defense seems primarily like foresight rather than a hindsight , " Shit fixitfixitfixtfixit !
" moment...So in response to your pondering , I do n't think too many hearts are being hacked right now , nor that things have gotten that bad .
Rather , it just seems like two security researchers are doing their job to keep the defensive actions one step ahead of offensive actions.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had no idea that things have gotten so bad that hearts are being hacked.
Well the article talks about how the threats have been demonstrated in the lab by a fella named Kevin Fu, but it doesn't mention it being a major problem right now:The potential risks of enabling radio communication in implantable medical devices were first highlighted by Kevin Fu, an assistant professor of computer science at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, and Tadayoshi Kohno, an assistant professor of computer science at the University of Washington.
They showed how to glean personal information from such a device, how to drain its batteries remotely, and how to make it malfunction in dangerous ways.
The two researchers stress that the threat is minimal now, but argue that it is vital to find ways to protect wireless medical devices before malicious users discover and exploit vulnerabilities.
So this defense seems primarily like foresight rather than a hindsight, "Shit fixitfixitfixtfixit!
" moment...So in response to your pondering, I don't think too many hearts are being hacked right now, nor that things have gotten that bad.
Rather, it just seems like two security researchers are doing their job to keep the defensive actions one step ahead of offensive actions...
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30081034</id>
	<title>Re:Hacking hearts</title>
	<author>sbeckstead</author>
	<datestamp>1258028220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah if you could hack a Peacemaker it would be something, I always wanted total control of a continental siege unit.<br>
But if you meant a Colt Peacemaker, can't be done, and I have total control of mine!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah if you could hack a Peacemaker it would be something , I always wanted total control of a continental siege unit .
But if you meant a Colt Peacemaker , ca n't be done , and I have total control of mine !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah if you could hack a Peacemaker it would be something, I always wanted total control of a continental siege unit.
But if you meant a Colt Peacemaker, can't be done, and I have total control of mine!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080390</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30081074</id>
	<title>Re:Let's research how to defeat this anyway!</title>
	<author>ivan\_w</author>
	<datestamp>1258028400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am afraid I have to disagree with you.</p><p>The article is about the fact that those advanced life supporting technological implements are possibly inherently unsafe if they both allow remote manipulation *and* are not properly authenticated. There is no discussion about any motive at this point.</p><p>The other subject (wiretaps) is highly more controversial because current governmental wire-taping policies in the U.S. are not necessarily backed by the judicial system but are basically carried out by executive orders - and some believe this is contrary to the wording of the 4th amendment of the U.S. constitution (protecting against unwarranted searches) and thus legitimizes some form of civil disobedience - hence the sympathy for those developing the means to do just that.</p><p>This leads to fears by some that our current society is leaning towards an Orwellian 'Big Brother' like world - where wire-tapping is not performed to incriminate specifically targeted individuals on the ground of a judicial inquiry, but rather as a random sampling method.</p><p>Then again...</p><p>--Ivan</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am afraid I have to disagree with you.The article is about the fact that those advanced life supporting technological implements are possibly inherently unsafe if they both allow remote manipulation * and * are not properly authenticated .
There is no discussion about any motive at this point.The other subject ( wiretaps ) is highly more controversial because current governmental wire-taping policies in the U.S. are not necessarily backed by the judicial system but are basically carried out by executive orders - and some believe this is contrary to the wording of the 4th amendment of the U.S. constitution ( protecting against unwarranted searches ) and thus legitimizes some form of civil disobedience - hence the sympathy for those developing the means to do just that.This leads to fears by some that our current society is leaning towards an Orwellian 'Big Brother ' like world - where wire-tapping is not performed to incriminate specifically targeted individuals on the ground of a judicial inquiry , but rather as a random sampling method.Then again...--Ivan</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am afraid I have to disagree with you.The article is about the fact that those advanced life supporting technological implements are possibly inherently unsafe if they both allow remote manipulation *and* are not properly authenticated.
There is no discussion about any motive at this point.The other subject (wiretaps) is highly more controversial because current governmental wire-taping policies in the U.S. are not necessarily backed by the judicial system but are basically carried out by executive orders - and some believe this is contrary to the wording of the 4th amendment of the U.S. constitution (protecting against unwarranted searches) and thus legitimizes some form of civil disobedience - hence the sympathy for those developing the means to do just that.This leads to fears by some that our current society is leaning towards an Orwellian 'Big Brother' like world - where wire-tapping is not performed to incriminate specifically targeted individuals on the ground of a judicial inquiry, but rather as a random sampling method.Then again...--Ivan</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30081172</id>
	<title>Re:Hearts Being Hacked</title>
	<author>stephanruby</author>
	<datestamp>1258028940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It looks like a solution looking for a problem. It wouldn't be the first time this happened. As for me, I'm not worried, I'll keep on using my birthday as my four-digit pin number for my pacemaker, thank you very much!</htmltext>
<tokenext>It looks like a solution looking for a problem .
It would n't be the first time this happened .
As for me , I 'm not worried , I 'll keep on using my birthday as my four-digit pin number for my pacemaker , thank you very much !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It looks like a solution looking for a problem.
It wouldn't be the first time this happened.
As for me, I'm not worried, I'll keep on using my birthday as my four-digit pin number for my pacemaker, thank you very much!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30085916</id>
	<title>Re:I can see it now...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258123320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yah the movie was called Crank 2 High Voltage!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yah the movie was called Crank 2 High Voltage !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yah the movie was called Crank 2 High Voltage!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080714</id>
	<title>Re:Hearts Being Hacked</title>
	<author>maxwell demon</author>
	<datestamp>1258026720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>It's not very often that hackers (by definition, intelligent people) do something purely and solely for the reason of being an asshole.</p></div></blockquote><p>I guess the fear is not about hackers trying to be assholes, but actually planned murder using the pacemaker as "weapon". Indeed, if the attacker can change the pacemaker to operate normally again afterwards, it might actually be the perfect murder.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not very often that hackers ( by definition , intelligent people ) do something purely and solely for the reason of being an asshole.I guess the fear is not about hackers trying to be assholes , but actually planned murder using the pacemaker as " weapon " .
Indeed , if the attacker can change the pacemaker to operate normally again afterwards , it might actually be the perfect murder .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not very often that hackers (by definition, intelligent people) do something purely and solely for the reason of being an asshole.I guess the fear is not about hackers trying to be assholes, but actually planned murder using the pacemaker as "weapon".
Indeed, if the attacker can change the pacemaker to operate normally again afterwards, it might actually be the perfect murder.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30082158</id>
	<title>Re:From someone with an implant..</title>
	<author>IorDMUX</author>
	<datestamp>1258034760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Agreed.<br> <br>I have an <a href="http://www.animascorp.com/animas-insulin-pumps/onetouch-ping" title="animascorp.com">insulin pump</a> [animascorp.com] with has a wireless connection to a handheld BG monitor that has some extra features.  The selling point is that you can test your BG levels, select some foods from the database in the handheld device, and give yourself a perfectly adjusted insulin dose without having to pull out a pump and mess with it.  (They make the handheld look somewhat like a cell phone with the idea that you can conceal the fact that you are using an insulin pump.)  Having found these features to be not-all-that-helpful (and having never been in a situation where I have been forced to conceal the fact that I have Type 1 Diabetes--though I can imagine some), I deactivated the wireless features in order to extend battery life.  <br> <br>Thankfully, the pump and handheld go through a secure-seeming peering and handshake process before the handheld can give any instructions to or read any data from the pump.  You see, a hacked insulin pump is as deadly as a hacked pacemaker:  If you told the thing to give me even an extra 1 ml dose without me knowing it, I'd probably fall begin seizing and fall into in a coma within 20-30 minutes and with very little warning.  <br> <br>As these devices become more and more feature-bloated, I expect a greater reliance on wireless communications, and a corresponding increase in security holes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Agreed .
I have an insulin pump [ animascorp.com ] with has a wireless connection to a handheld BG monitor that has some extra features .
The selling point is that you can test your BG levels , select some foods from the database in the handheld device , and give yourself a perfectly adjusted insulin dose without having to pull out a pump and mess with it .
( They make the handheld look somewhat like a cell phone with the idea that you can conceal the fact that you are using an insulin pump .
) Having found these features to be not-all-that-helpful ( and having never been in a situation where I have been forced to conceal the fact that I have Type 1 Diabetes--though I can imagine some ) , I deactivated the wireless features in order to extend battery life .
Thankfully , the pump and handheld go through a secure-seeming peering and handshake process before the handheld can give any instructions to or read any data from the pump .
You see , a hacked insulin pump is as deadly as a hacked pacemaker : If you told the thing to give me even an extra 1 ml dose without me knowing it , I 'd probably fall begin seizing and fall into in a coma within 20-30 minutes and with very little warning .
As these devices become more and more feature-bloated , I expect a greater reliance on wireless communications , and a corresponding increase in security holes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agreed.
I have an insulin pump [animascorp.com] with has a wireless connection to a handheld BG monitor that has some extra features.
The selling point is that you can test your BG levels, select some foods from the database in the handheld device, and give yourself a perfectly adjusted insulin dose without having to pull out a pump and mess with it.
(They make the handheld look somewhat like a cell phone with the idea that you can conceal the fact that you are using an insulin pump.
)  Having found these features to be not-all-that-helpful (and having never been in a situation where I have been forced to conceal the fact that I have Type 1 Diabetes--though I can imagine some), I deactivated the wireless features in order to extend battery life.
Thankfully, the pump and handheld go through a secure-seeming peering and handshake process before the handheld can give any instructions to or read any data from the pump.
You see, a hacked insulin pump is as deadly as a hacked pacemaker:  If you told the thing to give me even an extra 1 ml dose without me knowing it, I'd probably fall begin seizing and fall into in a coma within 20-30 minutes and with very little warning.
As these devices become more and more feature-bloated, I expect a greater reliance on wireless communications, and a corresponding increase in security holes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080602</id>
	<title>communication is switch physically.....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258026300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most pacemakers use a reed switch that is only activated by a very close proximity specific magnet.<br>This allows the pacemaker to send information.<br>I am not sure how you would get this activated to be able to send/receive anything......</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most pacemakers use a reed switch that is only activated by a very close proximity specific magnet.This allows the pacemaker to send information.I am not sure how you would get this activated to be able to send/receive anything..... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most pacemakers use a reed switch that is only activated by a very close proximity specific magnet.This allows the pacemaker to send information.I am not sure how you would get this activated to be able to send/receive anything......</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30082724</id>
	<title>Re:No Locked Hardware!</title>
	<author>Typing Monkey</author>
	<datestamp>1258040100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The RIAA welcomes Mola Ram as new Chairman</htmltext>
<tokenext>The RIAA welcomes Mola Ram as new Chairman</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The RIAA welcomes Mola Ram as new Chairman</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080570</id>
	<title>The romantic possibilities</title>
	<author>gestalt\_n\_pepper</author>
	<datestamp>1258026120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>*Now* I know how to get her heart racing whenever she sees me.</p><p>Or is that too hard hearted of me?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>* Now * I know how to get her heart racing whenever she sees me.Or is that too hard hearted of me ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>*Now* I know how to get her heart racing whenever she sees me.Or is that too hard hearted of me?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30081030</id>
	<title>Hack Dick's!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258028160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know one pacemaker I would like to see hacked...</p><p>DICK CHENEY's!!!!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know one pacemaker I would like to see hacked...DICK CHENEY 's ! ! ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know one pacemaker I would like to see hacked...DICK CHENEY's!!!!!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080616</id>
	<title>Re:Hearts Being Hacked</title>
	<author>Hatta</author>
	<datestamp>1258026360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>the threats have been demonstrated in the lab by a fella named Kevin Fu</i></p><p>FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...........</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the threats have been demonstrated in the lab by a fella named Kevin FuFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.......... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the threats have been demonstrated in the lab by a fella named Kevin FuFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...........</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30087542</id>
	<title>Re:Why wireless?</title>
	<author>Jared555</author>
	<datestamp>1258131480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder how a pacemaker (wireless or not) would react to a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HERF" title="wikipedia.org">HERF</a> [wikipedia.org] gun.  There are a lot of other threats than just someone reprogramming it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder how a pacemaker ( wireless or not ) would react to a HERF [ wikipedia.org ] gun .
There are a lot of other threats than just someone reprogramming it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder how a pacemaker (wireless or not) would react to a HERF [wikipedia.org] gun.
There are a lot of other threats than just someone reprogramming it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080668</id>
	<title>Re:Hearts Being Hacked</title>
	<author>jayme0227</author>
	<datestamp>1258026540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Rather, it just seems like two security researchers are doing their job to keep the defensive actions one step ahead of offensive actions...</p></div><p>Weird..</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Rather , it just seems like two security researchers are doing their job to keep the defensive actions one step ahead of offensive actions...Weird. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rather, it just seems like two security researchers are doing their job to keep the defensive actions one step ahead of offensive actions...Weird..
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30081640</id>
	<title>Re:Hearts Being Hacked</title>
	<author>ClosedSource</author>
	<datestamp>1258031400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"It's not very often that hackers (by definition, intelligent people) do something purely and solely for the reason of being an asshole."</p><p>If you mean "hackers" as the word is commonly used today, no, they are not particularly intelligent.</p><p>In fact, you could probably make a case that the original hackers weren't necessarily brilliant either - just highly focused on a narrow knowledge domain.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" It 's not very often that hackers ( by definition , intelligent people ) do something purely and solely for the reason of being an asshole .
" If you mean " hackers " as the word is commonly used today , no , they are not particularly intelligent.In fact , you could probably make a case that the original hackers were n't necessarily brilliant either - just highly focused on a narrow knowledge domain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"It's not very often that hackers (by definition, intelligent people) do something purely and solely for the reason of being an asshole.
"If you mean "hackers" as the word is commonly used today, no, they are not particularly intelligent.In fact, you could probably make a case that the original hackers weren't necessarily brilliant either - just highly focused on a narrow knowledge domain.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30082430</id>
	<title>Why wireless?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258037100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Would it be too much to ask that these things not communicate wirelessly? It seems to me that this just unnecessarily multiplies the threat. (Everyone here should remember the shit storm over RFID passports). They really should use a contact based communication system in such a critical application like this. I suggest the transmitter use a small solenoid to tap (like Morse code) on a sensing plate glued to a rib.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Would it be too much to ask that these things not communicate wirelessly ?
It seems to me that this just unnecessarily multiplies the threat .
( Everyone here should remember the shit storm over RFID passports ) .
They really should use a contact based communication system in such a critical application like this .
I suggest the transmitter use a small solenoid to tap ( like Morse code ) on a sensing plate glued to a rib .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would it be too much to ask that these things not communicate wirelessly?
It seems to me that this just unnecessarily multiplies the threat.
(Everyone here should remember the shit storm over RFID passports).
They really should use a contact based communication system in such a critical application like this.
I suggest the transmitter use a small solenoid to tap (like Morse code) on a sensing plate glued to a rib.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30082052</id>
	<title>read-only</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258034100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why the hell would you need anything other than read only access to a few simple statistics for the thing?? It's not like you need to adjust the blood flow on the fly.</p><p>Surely the fucking thing either works, and they are alive, or it doesn't and they aren't. There isn't much in-between when you're talking about a 3 minute gap between blood flow stopping and brain damage.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why the hell would you need anything other than read only access to a few simple statistics for the thing ? ?
It 's not like you need to adjust the blood flow on the fly.Surely the fucking thing either works , and they are alive , or it does n't and they are n't .
There is n't much in-between when you 're talking about a 3 minute gap between blood flow stopping and brain damage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why the hell would you need anything other than read only access to a few simple statistics for the thing??
It's not like you need to adjust the blood flow on the fly.Surely the fucking thing either works, and they are alive, or it doesn't and they aren't.
There isn't much in-between when you're talking about a 3 minute gap between blood flow stopping and brain damage.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080726</id>
	<title>Re:I can see it now...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258026840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and die.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and die .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and die.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30088188</id>
	<title>Re:I can see it now...</title>
	<author>skuzzlebutt</author>
	<datestamp>1258134660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My first thought when I read this was 4chan:</p><p>"Hay guize, I found the passwordz to grammas heart. RAEDZ!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My first thought when I read this was 4chan : " Hay guize , I found the passwordz to grammas heart .
RAEDZ ! "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My first thought when I read this was 4chan:"Hay guize, I found the passwordz to grammas heart.
RAEDZ!"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30082528</id>
	<title>Re:I can see it now...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258038060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Someday, some geek will try to overclock his artificial heart...</p></div><p>   lol Abstrackt ! was thinking the exact same !!!!    cheers !</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Someday , some geek will try to overclock his artificial heart... lol Abstrackt !
was thinking the exact same ! ! ! !
cheers !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someday, some geek will try to overclock his artificial heart...   lol Abstrackt !
was thinking the exact same !!!!
cheers !
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080974</id>
	<title>Re:Hearts Being Hacked</title>
	<author>OopsClunkThud</author>
	<datestamp>1258027860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Given these devices last for 5-15 years it's good of them to do a little forward thinking.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Given these devices last for 5-15 years it 's good of them to do a little forward thinking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given these devices last for 5-15 years it's good of them to do a little forward thinking.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30083822</id>
	<title>Re:Hearts Being Hacked</title>
	<author>edmazur</author>
	<datestamp>1258051440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>the threats have been demonstrated in the lab by a fella named Kevin Fu</p></div></blockquote><p>

It should also be mentioned that <a href="http://www.cs.umass.edu/~kevinfu/" title="umass.edu" rel="nofollow">Prof. Kevin Fu</a> [umass.edu] was recently named <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology\_Review" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Technology Review's</a> [wikipedia.org] <a href="http://www.technologyreview.com/TR35/Profile.aspx?trid=760" title="technologyreview.com" rel="nofollow">2009 Innovator of the Year</a> [technologyreview.com] for this work.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>the threats have been demonstrated in the lab by a fella named Kevin Fu It should also be mentioned that Prof. Kevin Fu [ umass.edu ] was recently named Technology Review 's [ wikipedia.org ] 2009 Innovator of the Year [ technologyreview.com ] for this work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the threats have been demonstrated in the lab by a fella named Kevin Fu

It should also be mentioned that Prof. Kevin Fu [umass.edu] was recently named Technology Review's [wikipedia.org] 2009 Innovator of the Year [technologyreview.com] for this work.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080348</id>
	<title>Re:Hearts Being Hacked</title>
	<author>NoYob</author>
	<datestamp>1258025280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Kevin Fu just got <i>published</i> with a splash. That young assistant professor is well on his way for tenure. <p>He made an excellent topic choice.</p><p>On the other hand, it does look he'd be happy as a <a href="http://www.cs.umass.edu/~kevinfu/" title="umass.edu" rel="nofollow">baker </a> [umass.edu].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Kevin Fu just got published with a splash .
That young assistant professor is well on his way for tenure .
He made an excellent topic choice.On the other hand , it does look he 'd be happy as a baker [ umass.edu ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kevin Fu just got published with a splash.
That young assistant professor is well on his way for tenure.
He made an excellent topic choice.On the other hand, it does look he'd be happy as a baker  [umass.edu].</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30081468</id>
	<title>Re:Hearts Being Hacked</title>
	<author>mysidia</author>
	<datestamp>1258030560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
I think the major concern would be someone broadcasts a signal of immense power designed to send a command to <b>many</b>  pacemakers all over a region.
</p><p>
If the signal is brief enough, and the source of the signal flees quickly enough, they can't be traced.
</p><p>
The possibility  opens that a really bad person could <b>demand a ransom</b> to not break all pacemakers in the country.
</p><p>
Then when they don't get their ransom paid, and they get laughed off,  they hit a state, county, or region as a "demonstration"
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the major concern would be someone broadcasts a signal of immense power designed to send a command to many pacemakers all over a region .
If the signal is brief enough , and the source of the signal flees quickly enough , they ca n't be traced .
The possibility opens that a really bad person could demand a ransom to not break all pacemakers in the country .
Then when they do n't get their ransom paid , and they get laughed off , they hit a state , county , or region as a " demonstration "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I think the major concern would be someone broadcasts a signal of immense power designed to send a command to many  pacemakers all over a region.
If the signal is brief enough, and the source of the signal flees quickly enough, they can't be traced.
The possibility  opens that a really bad person could demand a ransom to not break all pacemakers in the country.
Then when they don't get their ransom paid, and they get laughed off,  they hit a state, county, or region as a "demonstration"
</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30083562</id>
	<title>MRI safe</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258047780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The latest models go far beyond that.  They can actually be used in an MRI machine.  Now if we can just keep people trying to reheat coffee in their MRIs, we'll be set.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The latest models go far beyond that .
They can actually be used in an MRI machine .
Now if we can just keep people trying to reheat coffee in their MRIs , we 'll be set .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The latest models go far beyond that.
They can actually be used in an MRI machine.
Now if we can just keep people trying to reheat coffee in their MRIs, we'll be set.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080518</id>
	<title>Re:Hearts Being Hacked</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258025880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here's a slashdot discussion from March 2008 with a little more information:
<a href="http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/03/12/1232206" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/03/12/1232206</a> [slashdot.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's a slashdot discussion from March 2008 with a little more information : http : //science.slashdot.org/article.pl ? sid = 08/03/12/1232206 [ slashdot.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's a slashdot discussion from March 2008 with a little more information:
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/03/12/1232206 [slashdot.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080264</id>
	<title>Hacking Problem Solved !!!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258024920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Use a LARGE magnet !!!</p><p>Yours In Vladivostok,<br>Kilgore T.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Use a LARGE magnet ! !
! Yours In Vladivostok,Kilgore T .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Use a LARGE magnet !!
!Yours In Vladivostok,Kilgore T.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30082980</id>
	<title>Re:From someone with an implant..</title>
	<author>WeirdJohn</author>
	<datestamp>1258042140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm looking at getting a spinal neurostimulator fitted myself in about 12 months.  The idea that unknown people could alter the signals in my CNS is scary.  Apart from your scenario, what if it's turned off when driving?  The chances I could concentrate with all the pain coming back at once have to be slim.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm looking at getting a spinal neurostimulator fitted myself in about 12 months .
The idea that unknown people could alter the signals in my CNS is scary .
Apart from your scenario , what if it 's turned off when driving ?
The chances I could concentrate with all the pain coming back at once have to be slim .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm looking at getting a spinal neurostimulator fitted myself in about 12 months.
The idea that unknown people could alter the signals in my CNS is scary.
Apart from your scenario, what if it's turned off when driving?
The chances I could concentrate with all the pain coming back at once have to be slim.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30081590</id>
	<title>Re:Hearts Being Hacked</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258031100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can tell you for a fact that some heart devices allow radio communication.  And worse use unencrypted protocols.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can tell you for a fact that some heart devices allow radio communication .
And worse use unencrypted protocols .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can tell you for a fact that some heart devices allow radio communication.
And worse use unencrypted protocols.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30083524</id>
	<title>Re:Hacking hearts</title>
	<author>FatdogHaiku</author>
	<datestamp>1258047360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If I could hack her heart, she'd really love me...</p></div><p> <b>Or Else!</b> <br> <br>This really puts a whole new twist on the phrase "kill switch"... I would have to learn to speak new phrases like "Yes, I <i>AM</i> just going to sit here."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I could hack her heart , she 'd really love me... Or Else !
This really puts a whole new twist on the phrase " kill switch " ... I would have to learn to speak new phrases like " Yes , I AM just going to sit here .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I could hack her heart, she'd really love me... Or Else!
This really puts a whole new twist on the phrase "kill switch"... I would have to learn to speak new phrases like "Yes, I AM just going to sit here.
"
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080254</id>
	<title>Give me a BEAT!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258024860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thummmmmmp thump-thump<br>
th-thumpity thump-thump<br>
thumpity thump-thump<br>
thumpity thump-thummmmmmmp<br>
thumpity-thump!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thummmmmmp thump-thump th-thumpity thump-thump thumpity thump-thump thumpity thump-thummmmmmmp thumpity-thump !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thummmmmmp thump-thump
th-thumpity thump-thump
thumpity thump-thump
thumpity thump-thummmmmmmp
thumpity-thump!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080842</id>
	<title>Re:From someone with an implant..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258027320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hope you don't mind my suggestion...</p><p>Hypnotherapy with a really good hypnotist will enable you to turn off pain instantly, effortlessly and without the need to be 'asleep'. Once you have learned how to switch pain off and on at will you will no further need the assistance of a hypnotist.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hope you do n't mind my suggestion...Hypnotherapy with a really good hypnotist will enable you to turn off pain instantly , effortlessly and without the need to be 'asleep' .
Once you have learned how to switch pain off and on at will you will no further need the assistance of a hypnotist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hope you don't mind my suggestion...Hypnotherapy with a really good hypnotist will enable you to turn off pain instantly, effortlessly and without the need to be 'asleep'.
Once you have learned how to switch pain off and on at will you will no further need the assistance of a hypnotist.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30082474</id>
	<title>keeping paxemakers safe from hackers</title>
	<author>Device666</author>
	<datestamp>1258037520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't use windows embedded, it will be a major improvement.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't use windows embedded , it will be a major improvement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't use windows embedded, it will be a major improvement.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080198</id>
	<title>Does someone have him for a class.</title>
	<author>NoYob</author>
	<datestamp>1258024620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The potential risks of enabling radio communication in implantable medical devices were first highlighted by Kevin Fu, an assistant professor of computer science at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst,...</p></div><p>It must have been rough in college for him.</p><p>CS Professor: Now when you call function Foo.</p><p>Fu: What professor?</p><p>Um, nothing. Back to Foo.</p><p>Sir?</p><p>Nothing. Anyway the function, let's call it, "Bar" instead. Now when you call "Bar"</p><p>John Barr, another student: "What sir?</p><p>Professor: Is there anyone named ABC?! Good! Now when you call function ABC<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The potential risks of enabling radio communication in implantable medical devices were first highlighted by Kevin Fu , an assistant professor of computer science at the University of Massachusetts , Amherst,...It must have been rough in college for him.CS Professor : Now when you call function Foo.Fu : What professor ? Um , nothing .
Back to Foo.Sir ? Nothing .
Anyway the function , let 's call it , " Bar " instead .
Now when you call " Bar " John Barr , another student : " What sir ? Professor : Is there anyone named ABC ? !
Good ! Now when you call function ABC .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The potential risks of enabling radio communication in implantable medical devices were first highlighted by Kevin Fu, an assistant professor of computer science at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst,...It must have been rough in college for him.CS Professor: Now when you call function Foo.Fu: What professor?Um, nothing.
Back to Foo.Sir?Nothing.
Anyway the function, let's call it, "Bar" instead.
Now when you call "Bar"John Barr, another student: "What sir?Professor: Is there anyone named ABC?!
Good! Now when you call function ABC ...
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30080260</id>
	<title>Re:Hearts Being Hacked</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258024860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not very often that hackers (by definition, intelligent people) do something purely and solely for the reason of being an asshole.</p><p>Retaliating against some perceived national slight? Doesn't make sense here.</p><p>To take control and use that for various purposes, like money making or DoS? Not really meaningful.</p><p>Showing off? Well, I guess you could make the pacemaker morse-code your name for about five seconds until the person dies, but that doesn't get you much credit.</p><p>Because someone with power tries to make it impossible? Well, the new research just pointed out how it's not too difficult to do.</p><p>So when the possible pain for these "gains" is death by letal injection, it's not surprising it hasn't been done.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not very often that hackers ( by definition , intelligent people ) do something purely and solely for the reason of being an asshole.Retaliating against some perceived national slight ?
Does n't make sense here.To take control and use that for various purposes , like money making or DoS ?
Not really meaningful.Showing off ?
Well , I guess you could make the pacemaker morse-code your name for about five seconds until the person dies , but that does n't get you much credit.Because someone with power tries to make it impossible ?
Well , the new research just pointed out how it 's not too difficult to do.So when the possible pain for these " gains " is death by letal injection , it 's not surprising it has n't been done .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not very often that hackers (by definition, intelligent people) do something purely and solely for the reason of being an asshole.Retaliating against some perceived national slight?
Doesn't make sense here.To take control and use that for various purposes, like money making or DoS?
Not really meaningful.Showing off?
Well, I guess you could make the pacemaker morse-code your name for about five seconds until the person dies, but that doesn't get you much credit.Because someone with power tries to make it impossible?
Well, the new research just pointed out how it's not too difficult to do.So when the possible pain for these "gains" is death by letal injection, it's not surprising it hasn't been done.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_1559253.30083116</id>
	<title>Re:Hacking hearts</title>
	<author>davester666</author>
	<datestamp>1258043100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now, if they would work on preventing the taser from causing similar problems...</p><p>Seriously, the tasing time is being extended for the military, along with it's range (175 ft, 3 MINUTES of tasing time).  And they have to actually start/stop the tasing just so you can breathe...  But it's a "less" lethal weapon, as in, you have a slightly less chance of dying than if you were shot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now , if they would work on preventing the taser from causing similar problems...Seriously , the tasing time is being extended for the military , along with it 's range ( 175 ft , 3 MINUTES of tasing time ) .
And they have to actually start/stop the tasing just so you can breathe... But it 's a " less " lethal weapon , as in , you have a slightly less chance of dying than if you were shot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now, if they would work on preventing the taser from causing similar problems...Seriously, the tasing time is being extended for the military, along with it's range (175 ft, 3 MINUTES of tasing time).
And they have to actually start/stop the tasing just so you can breathe...  But it's a "less" lethal weapon, as in, you have a slightly less chance of dying than if you were shot.</sentencetext>
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