<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_07_1727256</id>
	<title>Babies Begin Learning Language In the Womb</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1257618240000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://hughpickens.com/" rel="nofollow">Hugh Pickens</a> writes <i>"Science Daily reports findings from a new study which suggest that <a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091105092607.htm">infants begin picking up elements of what will be their first language in the womb</a>, long before their first babble or coo, and are able to memorize sounds from the external world by the last trimester of pregnancy, with a particular sensitivity to melody contour in both music and language. Newborns prefer their mother's voice over other voices and perceive the emotional content of messages conveyed via intonation contours in maternal speech (a.k.a. 'motherese'). 'The dramatic finding of this study is that not only are human neonates capable of producing different cry melodies, but they prefer to produce those melody patterns that are typical for the ambient language they have heard during their fetal life, within the last trimester of gestation,' said Kathleen Wermke of the University of W&#252;rzburg in Germany. Wermke's team recorded and analyzed the cries of 60 healthy newborns, 30 born into French-speaking families and 30 born into German-speaking families, when they were three to five days old. The recordings of 2,500 cries as mothers changed babies' diapers, readied babies for feeding or otherwise interacted with the youngsters <a href="http://usnews.com/science/articles/2009/11/05/newborn-babies-may-cry-in-their-mother-tongues.html">show an extremely early impact of native language</a>, with analysis revealing clear differences in the shape of the newborns' cry melodies, based on their mother tongue."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hugh Pickens writes " Science Daily reports findings from a new study which suggest that infants begin picking up elements of what will be their first language in the womb , long before their first babble or coo , and are able to memorize sounds from the external world by the last trimester of pregnancy , with a particular sensitivity to melody contour in both music and language .
Newborns prefer their mother 's voice over other voices and perceive the emotional content of messages conveyed via intonation contours in maternal speech ( a.k.a .
'motherese ' ) . 'The dramatic finding of this study is that not only are human neonates capable of producing different cry melodies , but they prefer to produce those melody patterns that are typical for the ambient language they have heard during their fetal life , within the last trimester of gestation, ' said Kathleen Wermke of the University of W   rzburg in Germany .
Wermke 's team recorded and analyzed the cries of 60 healthy newborns , 30 born into French-speaking families and 30 born into German-speaking families , when they were three to five days old .
The recordings of 2,500 cries as mothers changed babies ' diapers , readied babies for feeding or otherwise interacted with the youngsters show an extremely early impact of native language , with analysis revealing clear differences in the shape of the newborns ' cry melodies , based on their mother tongue .
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<sentencetext>Hugh Pickens writes "Science Daily reports findings from a new study which suggest that infants begin picking up elements of what will be their first language in the womb, long before their first babble or coo, and are able to memorize sounds from the external world by the last trimester of pregnancy, with a particular sensitivity to melody contour in both music and language.
Newborns prefer their mother's voice over other voices and perceive the emotional content of messages conveyed via intonation contours in maternal speech (a.k.a.
'motherese'). 'The dramatic finding of this study is that not only are human neonates capable of producing different cry melodies, but they prefer to produce those melody patterns that are typical for the ambient language they have heard during their fetal life, within the last trimester of gestation,' said Kathleen Wermke of the University of Würzburg in Germany.
Wermke's team recorded and analyzed the cries of 60 healthy newborns, 30 born into French-speaking families and 30 born into German-speaking families, when they were three to five days old.
The recordings of 2,500 cries as mothers changed babies' diapers, readied babies for feeding or otherwise interacted with the youngsters show an extremely early impact of native language, with analysis revealing clear differences in the shape of the newborns' cry melodies, based on their mother tongue.
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	<title>Isn't this child abuse?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257622020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Surely teaching languages like French and German to poor, defenseless, not even yet born babies breaks <i>some</i> law.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Surely teaching languages like French and German to poor , defenseless , not even yet born babies breaks some law .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Surely teaching languages like French and German to poor, defenseless, not even yet born babies breaks some law.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30015862</id>
	<title>Re:Isn't this child abuse?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257623280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt;Surely teaching languages like French and German to poor, defenseless, not even yet born babies breaks some law.</p><p>Duh, they're *fetuses*, and so it's against the law to treat them as anything but undifferentiated masses of cells.</p><p>Hell, our glorious leader was the only guy in Illinois to vote for POST-birth abortions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; Surely teaching languages like French and German to poor , defenseless , not even yet born babies breaks some law.Duh , they 're * fetuses * , and so it 's against the law to treat them as anything but undifferentiated masses of cells.Hell , our glorious leader was the only guy in Illinois to vote for POST-birth abortions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt;Surely teaching languages like French and German to poor, defenseless, not even yet born babies breaks some law.Duh, they're *fetuses*, and so it's against the law to treat them as anything but undifferentiated masses of cells.Hell, our glorious leader was the only guy in Illinois to vote for POST-birth abortions.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30016644</id>
	<title>Re:Genetics</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257587280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And if that person you know could try these kids out with chopsticks and see if they have an edge Larry David wants to know..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And if that person you know could try these kids out with chopsticks and see if they have an edge Larry David wants to know. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And if that person you know could try these kids out with chopsticks and see if they have an edge Larry David wants to know..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30020104</id>
	<title>Re:So... when?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257676020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously, why does everyone take leave of their senses when this topic comes up? There's obviously a world of difference between someone who's innocent and never had a chance at the world, and someone who has willfully and unjustifiably taken one or more human lives -- often in tortuous and extraordinarily cruel ways. A child has done nothing to forfeit their life, but a person on death row has made a conscious decision to forfeit theirs by murdering other human beings and showing themselves to be dangerous to society at large.</p><p>Whether or not you agree with the death penalty is a different discussion, but saying that you can't see the difference between abortion and the death penalty just makes you disingenuous, a troll, or an idiot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , why does everyone take leave of their senses when this topic comes up ?
There 's obviously a world of difference between someone who 's innocent and never had a chance at the world , and someone who has willfully and unjustifiably taken one or more human lives -- often in tortuous and extraordinarily cruel ways .
A child has done nothing to forfeit their life , but a person on death row has made a conscious decision to forfeit theirs by murdering other human beings and showing themselves to be dangerous to society at large.Whether or not you agree with the death penalty is a different discussion , but saying that you ca n't see the difference between abortion and the death penalty just makes you disingenuous , a troll , or an idiot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, why does everyone take leave of their senses when this topic comes up?
There's obviously a world of difference between someone who's innocent and never had a chance at the world, and someone who has willfully and unjustifiably taken one or more human lives -- often in tortuous and extraordinarily cruel ways.
A child has done nothing to forfeit their life, but a person on death row has made a conscious decision to forfeit theirs by murdering other human beings and showing themselves to be dangerous to society at large.Whether or not you agree with the death penalty is a different discussion, but saying that you can't see the difference between abortion and the death penalty just makes you disingenuous, a troll, or an idiot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30015998</id>
	<title>Re:Dramatic Findings</title>
	<author>0100010001010011</author>
	<datestamp>1257624180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know I wanted a Discovery or TLC show quite a few years ago that stated this same thing. I don't know why this is 'new' news.</p><p>If you speak french to a french baby, they calm down. If you speak another language (with radically different phonemes) they don't respond to it any different than a random noise.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know I wanted a Discovery or TLC show quite a few years ago that stated this same thing .
I do n't know why this is 'new ' news.If you speak french to a french baby , they calm down .
If you speak another language ( with radically different phonemes ) they do n't respond to it any different than a random noise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know I wanted a Discovery or TLC show quite a few years ago that stated this same thing.
I don't know why this is 'new' news.If you speak french to a french baby, they calm down.
If you speak another language (with radically different phonemes) they don't respond to it any different than a random noise.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30019038</id>
	<title>Re:Isn't this child abuse?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257612900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"chug-a-lug chug-a-lug"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" chug-a-lug chug-a-lug "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"chug-a-lug chug-a-lug"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30016466</id>
	<title>Re:Domestic violence</title>
	<author>lilomar</author>
	<datestamp>1257585360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Troll? Yes.<br>But - There is a certain poetic rhythm to the post.</p><blockquote><div><p>When ladies become bored they begin talking.<br>It's babylonian. It does not even matter what they talk about.<br>When ladies become bored they begin talking.</p></div></blockquote><p>It's sad when a potential artist turns to the dark side.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Troll ?
Yes.But - There is a certain poetic rhythm to the post.When ladies become bored they begin talking.It 's babylonian .
It does not even matter what they talk about.When ladies become bored they begin talking.It 's sad when a potential artist turns to the dark side .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Troll?
Yes.But - There is a certain poetic rhythm to the post.When ladies become bored they begin talking.It's babylonian.
It does not even matter what they talk about.When ladies become bored they begin talking.It's sad when a potential artist turns to the dark side.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30019484</id>
	<title>Re:Dramatic Findings</title>
	<author>ittybad</author>
	<datestamp>1257619500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Somehow, it doesn't seem surprising -- I'm surprised that this made slashdot. We learned in a speech pathology class I took at my university in 2001 that language exposure in the womb was important and contributed to the language development of the child. That was nearly a decade ago (for those of you who have trouble subtracting years...)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Somehow , it does n't seem surprising -- I 'm surprised that this made slashdot .
We learned in a speech pathology class I took at my university in 2001 that language exposure in the womb was important and contributed to the language development of the child .
That was nearly a decade ago ( for those of you who have trouble subtracting years... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Somehow, it doesn't seem surprising -- I'm surprised that this made slashdot.
We learned in a speech pathology class I took at my university in 2001 that language exposure in the womb was important and contributed to the language development of the child.
That was nearly a decade ago (for those of you who have trouble subtracting years...)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30016076</id>
	<title>Domestic violence</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257624780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It should be.  Or conspiracy to set the stage for domestic violence, or something.</p><p>Consider this morning.  I was sitting on the walkway and a police officer walked up to chat for a while.  He commented that two of the other guys on the street ended up in jail last night because of a fight.  One of the guys had kicked his girlfriend and the other guy, playing Cpt. Save-a-ho, decided to jump in to do something over it.  I am unclear as to whether or not the lady ended up in jail as well.</p><p>My analysis was this.  When ladies become bored they begin talking.  It's babylonian.  It does not even matter what they talk about.  When ladies become bored they begin talking.  Her boyfriend puts up with this for a while but, after several days (months, years, decades) of drinking his tolerance for mindless babble has slowly decreased.  So at some point he tells her to shut up.  She does... for a little while.  But ladies become bored and then they start talking.  It does not even matter what they talk about.  When ladies become bored they begin talking.  Then her boyfriend begins drinking more rapidly and eventually tells her to shut up again.  She puts up with it for a while but, at some point, she will begin to argue about why she should shut up.  The point of view of the male is that he doesn't need to babble endlessly (though drunks most often do--and that's my largest annoyance with being homeless is that most other homeless men are drunks whose brains operate like women:  they constantly need to be running their mouths about something, anything, whateverthing).  The point of view of the female is that she's bored so why shouldn't she be able to talk about something.</p><p>So boyfriend eventually becomes upset enough to hit girlfriend in the shoulder--like a guy slugging another guy in the shoulder to emphasize the point of "shut up".  Women, through the media and popular culture, have cultured the "Cpt. Save-a-Ho" mentality in naive and easily manipulated males... so male number two decides that the boyfriend is out of line and jumps in to the rescue.  Males end up in fight and hauled off by police... female is entertained just as much as if she had someone who would actually listen to her endlessly babbling and talking.</p><p>So... all of that in consideration... babies learning mommy's language in the womb is just a side effect of being constantly exposed to mommy when she becomes bored and feels the need to begin talking endlessly about something, anything.</p><p>What makes this something of aggravated assault is that the baby has no way of saying,"Look, lady, shut the bleep-bleep-bleep up for once!"  Maybe that is why gestation is nine months long.  Nine months of listening to someone else endlessly run their mouth is the absolute maximum that anyone is able to psychologically deal with.</p><p>That is a whole new perspective on premature birth.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It should be .
Or conspiracy to set the stage for domestic violence , or something.Consider this morning .
I was sitting on the walkway and a police officer walked up to chat for a while .
He commented that two of the other guys on the street ended up in jail last night because of a fight .
One of the guys had kicked his girlfriend and the other guy , playing Cpt .
Save-a-ho , decided to jump in to do something over it .
I am unclear as to whether or not the lady ended up in jail as well.My analysis was this .
When ladies become bored they begin talking .
It 's babylonian .
It does not even matter what they talk about .
When ladies become bored they begin talking .
Her boyfriend puts up with this for a while but , after several days ( months , years , decades ) of drinking his tolerance for mindless babble has slowly decreased .
So at some point he tells her to shut up .
She does... for a little while .
But ladies become bored and then they start talking .
It does not even matter what they talk about .
When ladies become bored they begin talking .
Then her boyfriend begins drinking more rapidly and eventually tells her to shut up again .
She puts up with it for a while but , at some point , she will begin to argue about why she should shut up .
The point of view of the male is that he does n't need to babble endlessly ( though drunks most often do--and that 's my largest annoyance with being homeless is that most other homeless men are drunks whose brains operate like women : they constantly need to be running their mouths about something , anything , whateverthing ) .
The point of view of the female is that she 's bored so why should n't she be able to talk about something.So boyfriend eventually becomes upset enough to hit girlfriend in the shoulder--like a guy slugging another guy in the shoulder to emphasize the point of " shut up " .
Women , through the media and popular culture , have cultured the " Cpt .
Save-a-Ho " mentality in naive and easily manipulated males... so male number two decides that the boyfriend is out of line and jumps in to the rescue .
Males end up in fight and hauled off by police... female is entertained just as much as if she had someone who would actually listen to her endlessly babbling and talking.So... all of that in consideration... babies learning mommy 's language in the womb is just a side effect of being constantly exposed to mommy when she becomes bored and feels the need to begin talking endlessly about something , anything.What makes this something of aggravated assault is that the baby has no way of saying , " Look , lady , shut the bleep-bleep-bleep up for once !
" Maybe that is why gestation is nine months long .
Nine months of listening to someone else endlessly run their mouth is the absolute maximum that anyone is able to psychologically deal with.That is a whole new perspective on premature birth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It should be.
Or conspiracy to set the stage for domestic violence, or something.Consider this morning.
I was sitting on the walkway and a police officer walked up to chat for a while.
He commented that two of the other guys on the street ended up in jail last night because of a fight.
One of the guys had kicked his girlfriend and the other guy, playing Cpt.
Save-a-ho, decided to jump in to do something over it.
I am unclear as to whether or not the lady ended up in jail as well.My analysis was this.
When ladies become bored they begin talking.
It's babylonian.
It does not even matter what they talk about.
When ladies become bored they begin talking.
Her boyfriend puts up with this for a while but, after several days (months, years, decades) of drinking his tolerance for mindless babble has slowly decreased.
So at some point he tells her to shut up.
She does... for a little while.
But ladies become bored and then they start talking.
It does not even matter what they talk about.
When ladies become bored they begin talking.
Then her boyfriend begins drinking more rapidly and eventually tells her to shut up again.
She puts up with it for a while but, at some point, she will begin to argue about why she should shut up.
The point of view of the male is that he doesn't need to babble endlessly (though drunks most often do--and that's my largest annoyance with being homeless is that most other homeless men are drunks whose brains operate like women:  they constantly need to be running their mouths about something, anything, whateverthing).
The point of view of the female is that she's bored so why shouldn't she be able to talk about something.So boyfriend eventually becomes upset enough to hit girlfriend in the shoulder--like a guy slugging another guy in the shoulder to emphasize the point of "shut up".
Women, through the media and popular culture, have cultured the "Cpt.
Save-a-Ho" mentality in naive and easily manipulated males... so male number two decides that the boyfriend is out of line and jumps in to the rescue.
Males end up in fight and hauled off by police... female is entertained just as much as if she had someone who would actually listen to her endlessly babbling and talking.So... all of that in consideration... babies learning mommy's language in the womb is just a side effect of being constantly exposed to mommy when she becomes bored and feels the need to begin talking endlessly about something, anything.What makes this something of aggravated assault is that the baby has no way of saying,"Look, lady, shut the bleep-bleep-bleep up for once!
"  Maybe that is why gestation is nine months long.
Nine months of listening to someone else endlessly run their mouth is the absolute maximum that anyone is able to psychologically deal with.That is a whole new perspective on premature birth.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30018884</id>
	<title>Re:Dramatic Findings</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257611280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What does that say about the argument that a fetus is just a "mass of tissue" and not "human" or "alive" until it's born?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What does that say about the argument that a fetus is just a " mass of tissue " and not " human " or " alive " until it 's born ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What does that say about the argument that a fetus is just a "mass of tissue" and not "human" or "alive" until it's born?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30018306</id>
	<title>Re:Dramatic Findings</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257603240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm glad we have scientific evidence to back it up, but did anyone believe this wasn't the case?  Is anybody surprised by these findings?</p></div><p>I thought we all knew this since before we were born.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm glad we have scientific evidence to back it up , but did anyone believe this was n't the case ?
Is anybody surprised by these findings ? I thought we all knew this since before we were born .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm glad we have scientific evidence to back it up, but did anyone believe this wasn't the case?
Is anybody surprised by these findings?I thought we all knew this since before we were born.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30019088</id>
	<title>Re:So... when?</title>
	<author>dryeo</author>
	<datestamp>1257613620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well the constitution can be updated to bring it into line with current views on being civilized.<br>Remember when it was written lots of things were considered fine that are no longer tolerated with slavery being the big one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well the constitution can be updated to bring it into line with current views on being civilized.Remember when it was written lots of things were considered fine that are no longer tolerated with slavery being the big one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well the constitution can be updated to bring it into line with current views on being civilized.Remember when it was written lots of things were considered fine that are no longer tolerated with slavery being the big one.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30015654</id>
	<title>Genetics</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257622020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How do we know that genetics didn't play a role in the formation of their vocal cords, changing the way they utter their first cry?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How do we know that genetics did n't play a role in the formation of their vocal cords , changing the way they utter their first cry ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How do we know that genetics didn't play a role in the formation of their vocal cords, changing the way they utter their first cry?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30018892</id>
	<title>Re:Dramatic Findings</title>
	<author>Panoptes</author>
	<datestamp>1257611400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's nothing new in this study - phoneticians have known for years that it's possible to identify a baby's mother-tongue from its earliest babblings. My phonetics professor, back in 1976, gave a lecture on this very subject.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's nothing new in this study - phoneticians have known for years that it 's possible to identify a baby 's mother-tongue from its earliest babblings .
My phonetics professor , back in 1976 , gave a lecture on this very subject .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's nothing new in this study - phoneticians have known for years that it's possible to identify a baby's mother-tongue from its earliest babblings.
My phonetics professor, back in 1976, gave a lecture on this very subject.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30024252</id>
	<title>Unbelievable findings you mean!</title>
	<author>rve</author>
	<datestamp>1257712200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm glad we have scientific evidence to back it up, but did anyone believe this wasn't the case?  Is anybody surprised by these findings?</p></div><p>I'm extremely surprised, and in fact very suspicious of this finding, for the simple reason that newborns are unable to control the noises they make. They're not even aware that that sound is coming from their own tiny mouths, or even that they have a mouth.</p><p>Babies have to learn what their senses mean and what their bodies can do. They don't know they have hands, and may be frightened of those little things wiggling in their field of vision, or their grasping reflex might cause them to claw their own eyes, which is unpleasant and makes them cry, but it doesn't occur to them that they can stop doing it. They may be scared of the sound of their own crying, but it doesn't occur to them that they can just stop. It's not until about 6 to 8 weeks after birth before they slowly start to realize that the weird sensation in their ears happens every time they cry, and that they have some control over this process. Gradually over the course of months they discover new sounds they can make, and like to practice those for hours on end, until they discover a new one and start to practice that.</p><p>The suggestion that newborns immediately after birth have the ability to control their vocal cords enough to imitate what they hear, be it on a conscious or subconscious level, not only goes against the literature I've read about the subject, but also against my own observations. My English 'speaking' baby cries just like my brother and I did when we were German 'speaking' babies. Not surprising, since he looks just like me as a baby, and I looked like my brother as a baby, so all three of us probably had a similarly shaped mouth and vocal cords.</p></div>
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<tokenext>I 'm glad we have scientific evidence to back it up , but did anyone believe this was n't the case ?
Is anybody surprised by these findings ? I 'm extremely surprised , and in fact very suspicious of this finding , for the simple reason that newborns are unable to control the noises they make .
They 're not even aware that that sound is coming from their own tiny mouths , or even that they have a mouth.Babies have to learn what their senses mean and what their bodies can do .
They do n't know they have hands , and may be frightened of those little things wiggling in their field of vision , or their grasping reflex might cause them to claw their own eyes , which is unpleasant and makes them cry , but it does n't occur to them that they can stop doing it .
They may be scared of the sound of their own crying , but it does n't occur to them that they can just stop .
It 's not until about 6 to 8 weeks after birth before they slowly start to realize that the weird sensation in their ears happens every time they cry , and that they have some control over this process .
Gradually over the course of months they discover new sounds they can make , and like to practice those for hours on end , until they discover a new one and start to practice that.The suggestion that newborns immediately after birth have the ability to control their vocal cords enough to imitate what they hear , be it on a conscious or subconscious level , not only goes against the literature I 've read about the subject , but also against my own observations .
My English 'speaking ' baby cries just like my brother and I did when we were German 'speaking ' babies .
Not surprising , since he looks just like me as a baby , and I looked like my brother as a baby , so all three of us probably had a similarly shaped mouth and vocal cords .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm glad we have scientific evidence to back it up, but did anyone believe this wasn't the case?
Is anybody surprised by these findings?I'm extremely surprised, and in fact very suspicious of this finding, for the simple reason that newborns are unable to control the noises they make.
They're not even aware that that sound is coming from their own tiny mouths, or even that they have a mouth.Babies have to learn what their senses mean and what their bodies can do.
They don't know they have hands, and may be frightened of those little things wiggling in their field of vision, or their grasping reflex might cause them to claw their own eyes, which is unpleasant and makes them cry, but it doesn't occur to them that they can stop doing it.
They may be scared of the sound of their own crying, but it doesn't occur to them that they can just stop.
It's not until about 6 to 8 weeks after birth before they slowly start to realize that the weird sensation in their ears happens every time they cry, and that they have some control over this process.
Gradually over the course of months they discover new sounds they can make, and like to practice those for hours on end, until they discover a new one and start to practice that.The suggestion that newborns immediately after birth have the ability to control their vocal cords enough to imitate what they hear, be it on a conscious or subconscious level, not only goes against the literature I've read about the subject, but also against my own observations.
My English 'speaking' baby cries just like my brother and I did when we were German 'speaking' babies.
Not surprising, since he looks just like me as a baby, and I looked like my brother as a baby, so all three of us probably had a similarly shaped mouth and vocal cords.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30017412</id>
	<title>Re:So... when?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257595020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><blockquote><div><p>When is the "death penalty" OK?</p></div></blockquote><p>Well, in the US, the constitution explicitly spells out how capital crimes are to be handled...</p></div><p>So what exactly does the US constitution say about when the "death penalty" is OK?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>When is the " death penalty " OK ? Well , in the US , the constitution explicitly spells out how capital crimes are to be handled...So what exactly does the US constitution say about when the " death penalty " is OK ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When is the "death penalty" OK?Well, in the US, the constitution explicitly spells out how capital crimes are to be handled...So what exactly does the US constitution say about when the "death penalty" is OK?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30021202</id>
	<title>Re:Dramatic Findings</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257692280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Always amazes me how it takes millions of dollars to prove what is already common knowledge.  Any mom could have already told you this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Always amazes me how it takes millions of dollars to prove what is already common knowledge .
Any mom could have already told you this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Always amazes me how it takes millions of dollars to prove what is already common knowledge.
Any mom could have already told you this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30015794</id>
	<title>Re:Dramatic Findings</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257622860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am...?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am... ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am...?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30033926</id>
	<title>Re:Dramatic Findings</title>
	<author>BoothbyTCD</author>
	<datestamp>1257786840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the goals of the scientific process. Unfortunately you are not alone, since this sort of comments pops up in every science thread on this site.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the goals of the scientific process .
Unfortunately you are not alone , since this sort of comments pops up in every science thread on this site .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the goals of the scientific process.
Unfortunately you are not alone, since this sort of comments pops up in every science thread on this site.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30017164</id>
	<title>Re:So... when?</title>
	<author>the\_one(2)</author>
	<datestamp>1257592200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, the constitution is the epitome of wisdom. To bad such great minds will never be seen again!~</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , the constitution is the epitome of wisdom .
To bad such great minds will never be seen again ! ~</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, the constitution is the epitome of wisdom.
To bad such great minds will never be seen again!~</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30016292</id>
	<title>Re:Isn't this child abuse?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257626640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nah, the Republicans fully support post-birth abortions, and in record numbers.</p><p>&lt;sarcasm&gt;There's nothing wrong with frying an innocent man, just as long as you don't kill an undifferentiated bundle of cells that might become a man.  Taking the life of a fully-grown adult convicted of a serious crime is perfectly fine... even in states like Texas with a long history of false convictions, cases overturned *after* executions due to DNA evidence that the state deliberately barred that would have cleared the defendants, etc.&lt;/sarcasm&gt;</p><p>Anyone who chooses a Republican who supports capital punishment over a Democrat merely because of the Democrat's support for abortion needs to seriously rethink his or her values.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nah , the Republicans fully support post-birth abortions , and in record numbers.There 's nothing wrong with frying an innocent man , just as long as you do n't kill an undifferentiated bundle of cells that might become a man .
Taking the life of a fully-grown adult convicted of a serious crime is perfectly fine... even in states like Texas with a long history of false convictions , cases overturned * after * executions due to DNA evidence that the state deliberately barred that would have cleared the defendants , etc.Anyone who chooses a Republican who supports capital punishment over a Democrat merely because of the Democrat 's support for abortion needs to seriously rethink his or her values .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nah, the Republicans fully support post-birth abortions, and in record numbers.There's nothing wrong with frying an innocent man, just as long as you don't kill an undifferentiated bundle of cells that might become a man.
Taking the life of a fully-grown adult convicted of a serious crime is perfectly fine... even in states like Texas with a long history of false convictions, cases overturned *after* executions due to DNA evidence that the state deliberately barred that would have cleared the defendants, etc.Anyone who chooses a Republican who supports capital punishment over a Democrat merely because of the Democrat's support for abortion needs to seriously rethink his or her values.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30015676</id>
	<title>Dramatic Findings</title>
	<author>Phroggy</author>
	<datestamp>1257622200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm glad we have scientific evidence to back it up, but did anyone believe this wasn't the case?  Is anybody surprised by these findings?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm glad we have scientific evidence to back it up , but did anyone believe this was n't the case ?
Is anybody surprised by these findings ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm glad we have scientific evidence to back it up, but did anyone believe this wasn't the case?
Is anybody surprised by these findings?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30015788</id>
	<title>Re:Genetics</title>
	<author>Phroggy</author>
	<datestamp>1257622800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This study doesn't show it, but there are ways of testing for that.  For example, I know someone who was born in China and adopted by American parents.  Genetically she's 100\% Chinese, but culturally 100\% American.  Now, let's say she marries a guy who's also genetically Chinese but speaks English, and they have kids.  Their children will not be exposed to Chinese language prior to birth.  I would expect that the babies, while genetically 100\% Chinese, will cry like Americans (insert joke here).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This study does n't show it , but there are ways of testing for that .
For example , I know someone who was born in China and adopted by American parents .
Genetically she 's 100 \ % Chinese , but culturally 100 \ % American .
Now , let 's say she marries a guy who 's also genetically Chinese but speaks English , and they have kids .
Their children will not be exposed to Chinese language prior to birth .
I would expect that the babies , while genetically 100 \ % Chinese , will cry like Americans ( insert joke here ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This study doesn't show it, but there are ways of testing for that.
For example, I know someone who was born in China and adopted by American parents.
Genetically she's 100\% Chinese, but culturally 100\% American.
Now, let's say she marries a guy who's also genetically Chinese but speaks English, and they have kids.
Their children will not be exposed to Chinese language prior to birth.
I would expect that the babies, while genetically 100\% Chinese, will cry like Americans (insert joke here).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30017220</id>
	<title>They're Not "Babies," They're Fetuses</title>
	<author>RobotRunAmok</author>
	<datestamp>1257592800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If we start calling them "babies," then we won't be able to murder them by the millions, guiltlessly.</p><p>C'mon, people, get a clue...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If we start calling them " babies , " then we wo n't be able to murder them by the millions , guiltlessly.C'mon , people , get a clue.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If we start calling them "babies," then we won't be able to murder them by the millions, guiltlessly.C'mon, people, get a clue...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30015764</id>
	<title>Re:So... when?</title>
	<author>joocemann</author>
	<datestamp>1257622620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I will admit that this information has influenced me in my perspective of this topic.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I will admit that this information has influenced me in my perspective of this topic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I will admit that this information has influenced me in my perspective of this topic.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30016262</id>
	<title>Re:Dramatic Findings</title>
	<author>aynoknman</author>
	<datestamp>1257626280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is a bunch of balderdash<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...
<br>
When I was in the womb my mother used to play a bunch of old scratchy vinyl LPs, but that didn't affect me...fect me...fect me...fect me...fect me...fect me...fect me...fect me...fect me...fect me</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a bunch of balderdash .. . When I was in the womb my mother used to play a bunch of old scratchy vinyl LPs , but that did n't affect me...fect me...fect me...fect me...fect me...fect me...fect me...fect me...fect me...fect me</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a bunch of balderdash ...

When I was in the womb my mother used to play a bunch of old scratchy vinyl LPs, but that didn't affect me...fect me...fect me...fect me...fect me...fect me...fect me...fect me...fect me...fect me</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30017798</id>
	<title>Re:Domestic violence</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257598500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good to see that misogyny is alive and kicking well into the 21st century.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good to see that misogyny is alive and kicking well into the 21st century .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good to see that misogyny is alive and kicking well into the 21st century.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30016258</id>
	<title>Re:Dramatic Findings</title>
	<author>icebike</author>
	<datestamp>1257626220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm glad we have scientific evidence to back it up, but did anyone believe this wasn't the case?  Is anybody surprised by these findings?</p></div><p>Actually I dismissed these "findings" as utter nonsense as soon as the word CRYING was followed by the word MELODY.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm glad we have scientific evidence to back it up , but did anyone believe this was n't the case ?
Is anybody surprised by these findings ? Actually I dismissed these " findings " as utter nonsense as soon as the word CRYING was followed by the word MELODY .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm glad we have scientific evidence to back it up, but did anyone believe this wasn't the case?
Is anybody surprised by these findings?Actually I dismissed these "findings" as utter nonsense as soon as the word CRYING was followed by the word MELODY.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30015772</id>
	<title>Re:Dramatic Findings</title>
	<author>joocemann</author>
	<datestamp>1257622680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am.  I didn't know, and what I know now is very cool compared to what I would have assumed.  I am surprised.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am .
I did n't know , and what I know now is very cool compared to what I would have assumed .
I am surprised .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am.
I didn't know, and what I know now is very cool compared to what I would have assumed.
I am surprised.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30019074</id>
	<title>Re:Genetics</title>
	<author>jamesh</author>
	<datestamp>1257613440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>but culturally 100\% American.</p></div><p>Except for the fact that her brain was molded at least a little by being in the womb of a chinese-speaking woman<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>There is plenty of egg swapping going on these days, either a woman 'renting out' her uterus for a couple who can't otherwise have children themselves, or where a woman is implanted with an egg that isn't hers, because her eggs are defective. In the latter case the egg is normally chosen from a woman who is similar in appearance to the owner of the uterus, so the child looks at least a little like its mother, so maybe that wouldn't be a good test. There is also the odd occurrence where the wrong egg is implanted due to an error on the part of the hospital.</p><p>There should be enough entropy available to rule genetics out as a causal factor.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>but culturally 100 \ % American.Except for the fact that her brain was molded at least a little by being in the womb of a chinese-speaking woman : ) There is plenty of egg swapping going on these days , either a woman 'renting out ' her uterus for a couple who ca n't otherwise have children themselves , or where a woman is implanted with an egg that is n't hers , because her eggs are defective .
In the latter case the egg is normally chosen from a woman who is similar in appearance to the owner of the uterus , so the child looks at least a little like its mother , so maybe that would n't be a good test .
There is also the odd occurrence where the wrong egg is implanted due to an error on the part of the hospital.There should be enough entropy available to rule genetics out as a causal factor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but culturally 100\% American.Except for the fact that her brain was molded at least a little by being in the womb of a chinese-speaking woman :)There is plenty of egg swapping going on these days, either a woman 'renting out' her uterus for a couple who can't otherwise have children themselves, or where a woman is implanted with an egg that isn't hers, because her eggs are defective.
In the latter case the egg is normally chosen from a woman who is similar in appearance to the owner of the uterus, so the child looks at least a little like its mother, so maybe that wouldn't be a good test.
There is also the odd occurrence where the wrong egg is implanted due to an error on the part of the hospital.There should be enough entropy available to rule genetics out as a causal factor.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30016324</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting but dubious</title>
	<author>Dausha</author>
	<datestamp>1257627060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, your point is best summarize by a comment found on that link:</p><p>"'This technique of cherry-picking atypical "typical" values for rhetorical effect is[...]'</p><p>"I would have completed this sentence 'intellectually dishonest[.'] Contrasting that with the way you completed it is a rather sad comment on scientific publishing, especially if this piece has already passed peer review without any of the reviewers finding this worthy of comment."</p><p>My experience is this situation is more common than not: that even peer-reviewed scientific papers are conclusory, generally in the direction of bias of the specific field (or at the very least, in the direction of the peer-reviewers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , your point is best summarize by a comment found on that link : " 'This technique of cherry-picking atypical " typical " values for rhetorical effect is [ ... ] ' " I would have completed this sentence 'intellectually dishonest [ .
' ] Contrasting that with the way you completed it is a rather sad comment on scientific publishing , especially if this piece has already passed peer review without any of the reviewers finding this worthy of comment .
" My experience is this situation is more common than not : that even peer-reviewed scientific papers are conclusory , generally in the direction of bias of the specific field ( or at the very least , in the direction of the peer-reviewers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, your point is best summarize by a comment found on that link:"'This technique of cherry-picking atypical "typical" values for rhetorical effect is[...]'"I would have completed this sentence 'intellectually dishonest[.
'] Contrasting that with the way you completed it is a rather sad comment on scientific publishing, especially if this piece has already passed peer review without any of the reviewers finding this worthy of comment.
"My experience is this situation is more common than not: that even peer-reviewed scientific papers are conclusory, generally in the direction of bias of the specific field (or at the very least, in the direction of the peer-reviewers.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30015712</id>
	<title>So... when?</title>
	<author>Jhon</author>
	<datestamp>1257622320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> infants begin picking up elements of what will be their first language in the womb</p></div> </blockquote><p>When is it human?  When is it a person?  How early is "abortion" ok?</p><p>Hate to be "off topic", but that line above really sparked the question.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>infants begin picking up elements of what will be their first language in the womb When is it human ?
When is it a person ?
How early is " abortion " ok ? Hate to be " off topic " , but that line above really sparked the question .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> infants begin picking up elements of what will be their first language in the womb When is it human?
When is it a person?
How early is "abortion" ok?Hate to be "off topic", but that line above really sparked the question.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30015702</id>
	<title>Interesting but dubious</title>
	<author>bargainsale</author>
	<datestamp>1257622260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Discussed here by someone who actually knows about this stuff:

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<a href="http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=1869" title="upenn.edu">http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=1869</a> [upenn.edu]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Discussed here by someone who actually knows about this stuff : http : //languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/ ? p = 1869 [ upenn.edu ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Discussed here by someone who actually knows about this stuff:

 
http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=1869 [upenn.edu]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30016468</id>
	<title>Re:So... when?</title>
	<author>Chibi Merrow</author>
	<datestamp>1257585480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>When is the "death penalty" OK?</p></div></blockquote><p>Well, in the US, the constitution explicitly spells out how capital crimes are to be handled...</p></div>
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<tokenext>When is the " death penalty " OK ? Well , in the US , the constitution explicitly spells out how capital crimes are to be handled.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When is the "death penalty" OK?Well, in the US, the constitution explicitly spells out how capital crimes are to be handled...
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	<title>Re:So... when?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257623100000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>And apparently, after they're born, they remain human their whole lives.  When is the "death penalty" OK?

Hate to be "off" the "off topic", but I figure if we're looking for controversy...</htmltext>
<tokenext>And apparently , after they 're born , they remain human their whole lives .
When is the " death penalty " OK ?
Hate to be " off " the " off topic " , but I figure if we 're looking for controversy.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And apparently, after they're born, they remain human their whole lives.
When is the "death penalty" OK?
Hate to be "off" the "off topic", but I figure if we're looking for controversy...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_1727256.30016148</id>
	<title>Re:Genetics</title>
	<author>Emerssso</author>
	<datestamp>1257625440000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Because vocal fold size determines a range of pitches available to the speaker, whereas phrase-level tone contours are language based and proportionate/relative.  You can't genetically determine that any more than you can other aspects of a language's lexicon.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because vocal fold size determines a range of pitches available to the speaker , whereas phrase-level tone contours are language based and proportionate/relative .
You ca n't genetically determine that any more than you can other aspects of a language 's lexicon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because vocal fold size determines a range of pitches available to the speaker, whereas phrase-level tone contours are language based and proportionate/relative.
You can't genetically determine that any more than you can other aspects of a language's lexicon.</sentencetext>
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