<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_07_0256257</id>
	<title>Norwegian Court Rules ISP Doesn't Have To Block The Pirate Bay</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1257613740000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>C4st13v4n14 writes <i>"In a sudden outbreak of uncommon sense yesterday, a Norwegian District Court handed down the decision that Telenor, Norway's largest ISP, <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/ifpi-loses-telenor-will-not-block-the-pirate-bay-091106/">will not have to block access to The Pirate Bay</a>.  Telenor was sued earlier this year by the IFPI <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/telenor-wont-block-the-pirate-bay-090303/">after being threatened</a> and <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/isp-dragged-to-court-for-refusing-to-block-the-pirate-bay-090617/">not backing down</a>. 'The court ruled that Telenor is not contributing to any infringements of copyright law when its subscribers use The Pirate Bay, and therefore there is no legal basis for forcing the ISP to block access to the site. ... In making its decision, the court also had to examine the repercussions if it ruled that Telenor and other ISPs had to block access to certain websites.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>C4st13v4n14 writes " In a sudden outbreak of uncommon sense yesterday , a Norwegian District Court handed down the decision that Telenor , Norway 's largest ISP , will not have to block access to The Pirate Bay .
Telenor was sued earlier this year by the IFPI after being threatened and not backing down .
'The court ruled that Telenor is not contributing to any infringements of copyright law when its subscribers use The Pirate Bay , and therefore there is no legal basis for forcing the ISP to block access to the site .
... In making its decision , the court also had to examine the repercussions if it ruled that Telenor and other ISPs had to block access to certain websites .
' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>C4st13v4n14 writes "In a sudden outbreak of uncommon sense yesterday, a Norwegian District Court handed down the decision that Telenor, Norway's largest ISP, will not have to block access to The Pirate Bay.
Telenor was sued earlier this year by the IFPI after being threatened and not backing down.
'The court ruled that Telenor is not contributing to any infringements of copyright law when its subscribers use The Pirate Bay, and therefore there is no legal basis for forcing the ISP to block access to the site.
... In making its decision, the court also had to examine the repercussions if it ruled that Telenor and other ISPs had to block access to certain websites.
'"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30012552</id>
	<title>I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>MrLeap</author>
	<datestamp>1257531060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why is norway always ahead of the curve in nearly everything?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why is norway always ahead of the curve in nearly everything ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why is norway always ahead of the curve in nearly everything?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30022088</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257698100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's funny after you nailed your description of Norwegian society to see the answers from the Norwegian crowd here. As a Norwegian living in Oslo that has lived a few places abroad I can only say Oslo is a sad city to be in. It is a celebration of mediocrity on every level of life.</p><p>When foreigners tell native Norwegians it's a really nice place, you can be relatively sure they're just placating the Norwegian.</p><p>Word of advice for new foreigners in Oslo, if people ask you what you think of Norway, do not for the life of you say what you really think. Any negativity, even if only in contrast to the good things you may say will make you branded as a complainer. Also, don't ever believe the psychotic smiles of many of the women here - it's a facade that covers some pretty serious mental desires to control everyone around them.</p><p>Another thing about the women, they don't know how to dress or how to walk in heels. The typical sight is some tunika/tights/tall boots combination, alternatively the all out skanky whore look. To top that off, when they walk in heels on a flat, horizontal street, they still look like they are climbing steep stairs. From the side, they take on the shape of the letter "Z".</p><p>Looking forward to the next opportunity to get out of the sanatorium that is Oslo.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>Sincerely,<br>Nordmann som er lei av teaterframf&#248;ringa "Norge i dag".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's funny after you nailed your description of Norwegian society to see the answers from the Norwegian crowd here .
As a Norwegian living in Oslo that has lived a few places abroad I can only say Oslo is a sad city to be in .
It is a celebration of mediocrity on every level of life.When foreigners tell native Norwegians it 's a really nice place , you can be relatively sure they 're just placating the Norwegian.Word of advice for new foreigners in Oslo , if people ask you what you think of Norway , do not for the life of you say what you really think .
Any negativity , even if only in contrast to the good things you may say will make you branded as a complainer .
Also , do n't ever believe the psychotic smiles of many of the women here - it 's a facade that covers some pretty serious mental desires to control everyone around them.Another thing about the women , they do n't know how to dress or how to walk in heels .
The typical sight is some tunika/tights/tall boots combination , alternatively the all out skanky whore look .
To top that off , when they walk in heels on a flat , horizontal street , they still look like they are climbing steep stairs .
From the side , they take on the shape of the letter " Z " .Looking forward to the next opportunity to get out of the sanatorium that is Oslo .
: ) Sincerely,Nordmann som er lei av teaterframf   ringa " Norge i dag " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's funny after you nailed your description of Norwegian society to see the answers from the Norwegian crowd here.
As a Norwegian living in Oslo that has lived a few places abroad I can only say Oslo is a sad city to be in.
It is a celebration of mediocrity on every level of life.When foreigners tell native Norwegians it's a really nice place, you can be relatively sure they're just placating the Norwegian.Word of advice for new foreigners in Oslo, if people ask you what you think of Norway, do not for the life of you say what you really think.
Any negativity, even if only in contrast to the good things you may say will make you branded as a complainer.
Also, don't ever believe the psychotic smiles of many of the women here - it's a facade that covers some pretty serious mental desires to control everyone around them.Another thing about the women, they don't know how to dress or how to walk in heels.
The typical sight is some tunika/tights/tall boots combination, alternatively the all out skanky whore look.
To top that off, when they walk in heels on a flat, horizontal street, they still look like they are climbing steep stairs.
From the side, they take on the shape of the letter "Z".Looking forward to the next opportunity to get out of the sanatorium that is Oslo.
:)Sincerely,Nordmann som er lei av teaterframføringa "Norge i dag".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30017840</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>skeffstone</author>
	<datestamp>1257598800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm not going to comment much on this, I think everyone can see that this is bombastic and narrow.
I'm norwegian myself and I don't recognize myself or my friends in this. But alas, this is not forum for discussing nations and the people there. But seriously man, you should get out more, locally but also globally.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not going to comment much on this , I think everyone can see that this is bombastic and narrow .
I 'm norwegian myself and I do n't recognize myself or my friends in this .
But alas , this is not forum for discussing nations and the people there .
But seriously man , you should get out more , locally but also globally .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not going to comment much on this, I think everyone can see that this is bombastic and narrow.
I'm norwegian myself and I don't recognize myself or my friends in this.
But alas, this is not forum for discussing nations and the people there.
But seriously man, you should get out more, locally but also globally.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30016860</id>
	<title>Re:m&#248;lje, &#248;l og linjeakevitt</title>
	<author>Lavene</author>
	<datestamp>1257589260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Speaking of horrid, what's that last item on the list below?  I don't dare try it.  It's all chopped up so as to be unrecognizable.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)

</p><ul>
  <li>...</li><li>. . . </li><li>finnbiff - ??wtf??</li></ul></div><p>It's reindeer<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Speaking of horrid , what 's that last item on the list below ?
I do n't dare try it .
It 's all chopped up so as to be unrecognizable .
; ) .... . .
finnbiff - ? ? wtf ?
? It 's reindeer : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Speaking of horrid, what's that last item on the list below?
I don't dare try it.
It's all chopped up so as to be unrecognizable.
;)


  .... . .
finnbiff - ??wtf?
?It's reindeer :)
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30019566</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>mjkjedi</author>
	<datestamp>1257621060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't forget Norwegian black metal!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget Norwegian black metal !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget Norwegian black metal!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30014010</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257605100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is mostly a test to see if this gets deleted. It seems my previous informative post very conveniently disappeared. That could not happen in Norway, and is a perfect example of the difference between Norway and other countries. Absolute fair play and equality are the highest virtues here. We are typically innocent and idealistic, and not so twisted and corrupted by modern urban life. This of course gets us in trouble with more streetsmart foreigners, who tend to look down on us.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is mostly a test to see if this gets deleted .
It seems my previous informative post very conveniently disappeared .
That could not happen in Norway , and is a perfect example of the difference between Norway and other countries .
Absolute fair play and equality are the highest virtues here .
We are typically innocent and idealistic , and not so twisted and corrupted by modern urban life .
This of course gets us in trouble with more streetsmart foreigners , who tend to look down on us .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is mostly a test to see if this gets deleted.
It seems my previous informative post very conveniently disappeared.
That could not happen in Norway, and is a perfect example of the difference between Norway and other countries.
Absolute fair play and equality are the highest virtues here.
We are typically innocent and idealistic, and not so twisted and corrupted by modern urban life.
This of course gets us in trouble with more streetsmart foreigners, who tend to look down on us.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30017078</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Lavene</author>
	<datestamp>1257591420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>When I take a patient into my office for a consultation, about 50\% react in the stereotypical xenophobic way when I shake their hands and introduce myself as their doctor and tell them my name.</p></div><p>This might be the reason: We hate foreign doctors. So when you introduce yourself they're going "Oh fuck... another one of those!" And the reason we hate foreign doctors is that they don't understand when they really need to.
</p><p>
It is not racism, it has nothing to do with skin color or anything. If you had been a carpenter or a tram driver no one would care. But as a doctor we need to talk to you. Not only that; you need to understand us if we one day is really sick, in horrible pain and speak with a dialect that's almost incomprehensible even for the locals. So when we shake hands with a foreign doctor, either his name is Singh or Jhonny, we go "Fuck!" in our mind hoping there will be a Norwegian doctor available to save us at the hospital after you have failed to understand what we try to say.
</p><p>
It doesn't matter how well you think you know Norwegians, or even how well you speak Norwegian. Because we have all met with the foreign doctor from hell. The doctor that pretend to understand everything, maybe he even think he does. But when you are at the pharmacy to pick up the prescription you get painkillers instead of birthcontrol pills. And you are that doctor... until you prove otherwise.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>When I take a patient into my office for a consultation , about 50 \ % react in the stereotypical xenophobic way when I shake their hands and introduce myself as their doctor and tell them my name.This might be the reason : We hate foreign doctors .
So when you introduce yourself they 're going " Oh fuck... another one of those !
" And the reason we hate foreign doctors is that they do n't understand when they really need to .
It is not racism , it has nothing to do with skin color or anything .
If you had been a carpenter or a tram driver no one would care .
But as a doctor we need to talk to you .
Not only that ; you need to understand us if we one day is really sick , in horrible pain and speak with a dialect that 's almost incomprehensible even for the locals .
So when we shake hands with a foreign doctor , either his name is Singh or Jhonny , we go " Fuck !
" in our mind hoping there will be a Norwegian doctor available to save us at the hospital after you have failed to understand what we try to say .
It does n't matter how well you think you know Norwegians , or even how well you speak Norwegian .
Because we have all met with the foreign doctor from hell .
The doctor that pretend to understand everything , maybe he even think he does .
But when you are at the pharmacy to pick up the prescription you get painkillers instead of birthcontrol pills .
And you are that doctor... until you prove otherwise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I take a patient into my office for a consultation, about 50\% react in the stereotypical xenophobic way when I shake their hands and introduce myself as their doctor and tell them my name.This might be the reason: We hate foreign doctors.
So when you introduce yourself they're going "Oh fuck... another one of those!
" And the reason we hate foreign doctors is that they don't understand when they really need to.
It is not racism, it has nothing to do with skin color or anything.
If you had been a carpenter or a tram driver no one would care.
But as a doctor we need to talk to you.
Not only that; you need to understand us if we one day is really sick, in horrible pain and speak with a dialect that's almost incomprehensible even for the locals.
So when we shake hands with a foreign doctor, either his name is Singh or Jhonny, we go "Fuck!
" in our mind hoping there will be a Norwegian doctor available to save us at the hospital after you have failed to understand what we try to say.
It doesn't matter how well you think you know Norwegians, or even how well you speak Norwegian.
Because we have all met with the foreign doctor from hell.
The doctor that pretend to understand everything, maybe he even think he does.
But when you are at the pharmacy to pick up the prescription you get painkillers instead of birthcontrol pills.
And you are that doctor... until you prove otherwise.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30013198</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257590160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It should be added, that since then we have barely spent any money on roads (cars are evil, we should all be waiting for trains that never run instead).</p><p>Which means we're juddering along on roads with 1960s standards much of the time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It should be added , that since then we have barely spent any money on roads ( cars are evil , we should all be waiting for trains that never run instead ) .Which means we 're juddering along on roads with 1960s standards much of the time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It should be added, that since then we have barely spent any money on roads (cars are evil, we should all be waiting for trains that never run instead).Which means we're juddering along on roads with 1960s standards much of the time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30012978</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257627180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Check out the price of beer first though.  They didn't get everything *quite* right...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Check out the price of beer first though .
They did n't get everything * quite * right.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Check out the price of beer first though.
They didn't get everything *quite* right...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30016000</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Narpak</author>
	<datestamp>1257624240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Anyway, we have to realize that much of our "success" has been pure luck, in the form of the above mentioned oil. I for one am not so sure how well our social democracy will fare once the oil runs out. It's a fantastic place to live while it lasts, but when it ends there's no substantial source of income to replace it with.</p></div><p>The presence of oil and gas and the benefit to the Norwegian economy could be said to be luck; how that profit was managed was not however. Though I do agree that the oil have made our nation somewhat more complacent than we should.<br> <br>However at this point oil export is about half the total exports of the country which is fairly substantial; but we are by no means without other "sources of income". Though I shall agree that some of our other industries have been neglected as our focus was on oil and gas. There are room for expansion and I do not fear our nations economical future as we have access to other resources and a large potential for growth in several sectors. And our most important asset is a very high average educational level (though it should be driven ever higher).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyway , we have to realize that much of our " success " has been pure luck , in the form of the above mentioned oil .
I for one am not so sure how well our social democracy will fare once the oil runs out .
It 's a fantastic place to live while it lasts , but when it ends there 's no substantial source of income to replace it with.The presence of oil and gas and the benefit to the Norwegian economy could be said to be luck ; how that profit was managed was not however .
Though I do agree that the oil have made our nation somewhat more complacent than we should .
However at this point oil export is about half the total exports of the country which is fairly substantial ; but we are by no means without other " sources of income " .
Though I shall agree that some of our other industries have been neglected as our focus was on oil and gas .
There are room for expansion and I do not fear our nations economical future as we have access to other resources and a large potential for growth in several sectors .
And our most important asset is a very high average educational level ( though it should be driven ever higher ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyway, we have to realize that much of our "success" has been pure luck, in the form of the above mentioned oil.
I for one am not so sure how well our social democracy will fare once the oil runs out.
It's a fantastic place to live while it lasts, but when it ends there's no substantial source of income to replace it with.The presence of oil and gas and the benefit to the Norwegian economy could be said to be luck; how that profit was managed was not however.
Though I do agree that the oil have made our nation somewhat more complacent than we should.
However at this point oil export is about half the total exports of the country which is fairly substantial; but we are by no means without other "sources of income".
Though I shall agree that some of our other industries have been neglected as our focus was on oil and gas.
There are room for expansion and I do not fear our nations economical future as we have access to other resources and a large potential for growth in several sectors.
And our most important asset is a very high average educational level (though it should be driven ever higher).
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30020940</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257690120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You know, if they go through the trouble of saying "See four stuh thirteen vee four en fourteen", of course they're gonna be put off when you say "It's pronounced 'Castlevania'".</htmltext>
<tokenext>You know , if they go through the trouble of saying " See four stuh thirteen vee four en fourteen " , of course they 're gon na be put off when you say " It 's pronounced 'Castlevania ' " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know, if they go through the trouble of saying "See four stuh thirteen vee four en fourteen", of course they're gonna be put off when you say "It's pronounced 'Castlevania'".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30014100</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257606540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I rest my case.</p><p>And fuck you too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I rest my case.And fuck you too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I rest my case.And fuck you too.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30015386</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>maggern</author>
	<datestamp>1257620040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Try reading the excellent book "riding the waves of culture". Then make a new effort of trying to understand Norwegians.
<br> <br>The comment about your patients not pronouncing your name correct seems faulty. You say the name is easy to say correctly, but surely you must understand that if the patentis are not getting it right, then they find it hard to pronounce. <br> <br>
Perhaps you expected to come to Norway and be admired and have a high status because you're a doctor? It's not like that, we're all equal here. Right?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Try reading the excellent book " riding the waves of culture " .
Then make a new effort of trying to understand Norwegians .
The comment about your patients not pronouncing your name correct seems faulty .
You say the name is easy to say correctly , but surely you must understand that if the patentis are not getting it right , then they find it hard to pronounce .
Perhaps you expected to come to Norway and be admired and have a high status because you 're a doctor ?
It 's not like that , we 're all equal here .
Right ? ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Try reading the excellent book "riding the waves of culture".
Then make a new effort of trying to understand Norwegians.
The comment about your patients not pronouncing your name correct seems faulty.
You say the name is easy to say correctly, but surely you must understand that if the patentis are not getting it right, then they find it hard to pronounce.
Perhaps you expected to come to Norway and be admired and have a high status because you're a doctor?
It's not like that, we're all equal here.
Right? ;)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30013060</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Logopop</author>
	<datestamp>1257585780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Today, though, public spending in Norway is a bit out of control, while revenue from oil and gas is likely to dwindle over the next decades. Unless, og course, we do as we have already started - to invest heavily in oil and gas exploration in poorer countries where the resources are not nationalized to the benefit of the people. The system is rapidly getting less sustainable. Add to this the ethical side of basing your welfare on having to supply massive amounts of CO2 to the atmosphere. It's a great place to live right now, but I am not sure about the long term prospects...<br>Ant then, of course, there is the beer prices!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Today , though , public spending in Norway is a bit out of control , while revenue from oil and gas is likely to dwindle over the next decades .
Unless , og course , we do as we have already started - to invest heavily in oil and gas exploration in poorer countries where the resources are not nationalized to the benefit of the people .
The system is rapidly getting less sustainable .
Add to this the ethical side of basing your welfare on having to supply massive amounts of CO2 to the atmosphere .
It 's a great place to live right now , but I am not sure about the long term prospects...Ant then , of course , there is the beer prices !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Today, though, public spending in Norway is a bit out of control, while revenue from oil and gas is likely to dwindle over the next decades.
Unless, og course, we do as we have already started - to invest heavily in oil and gas exploration in poorer countries where the resources are not nationalized to the benefit of the people.
The system is rapidly getting less sustainable.
Add to this the ethical side of basing your welfare on having to supply massive amounts of CO2 to the atmosphere.
It's a great place to live right now, but I am not sure about the long term prospects...Ant then, of course, there is the beer prices!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30014352</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257610620000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"The other thing that gets me about this first 50\% of people who see me with suspicion or look down on me is that no matter what I do, they will always think that they're better than me and I will never be accepted."</p><p>"10\% get it right and become interested in me as a person and ask me where I'm from. I'm of course not here to be asked where I'm from, but it's nice once in a while when someone takes an interest in you. That's a major issue in this culture. I haven't figured out if it's egotism or what, but no one seems interested in each other."</p><p>Welcome to interacting with people who have some wealth. As someone stateside who's also a medical professional, I started out in the sticks and moved to an very upscale community (Bernie Madoff wealth) about 4 years ago. My dealings are nearly identical to those you're describing.</p><p>I'm reminded everyday, wealth is the only judge of success in the US that people recognise any more. The wealthy see themselves as winners of the highest kind. Anyone else is beneath them, especially if they have to work for a living. To be fair, a majority of the ones I see did nothing but outlive wealthy parents, or in the case of most of the women, spread their legs for men who inherited wealth.<br>There are exceptions to every rule, but the vast majority I deal with on a daily basis fit this model.</p><p>When two or more of these people are in the same place, they do one of two things... They'll either schmooze with each other until they go their separate ways and then talk shit about the other to me, or ignore each others existence completely.</p><p>I think watching how the other half lives for the past few years has made me cynical and jaded about the future of this country. It astounds me how inhumane humanity has become at what it considers its "top". It also angers me that I have no power to change it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" The other thing that gets me about this first 50 \ % of people who see me with suspicion or look down on me is that no matter what I do , they will always think that they 're better than me and I will never be accepted .
" " 10 \ % get it right and become interested in me as a person and ask me where I 'm from .
I 'm of course not here to be asked where I 'm from , but it 's nice once in a while when someone takes an interest in you .
That 's a major issue in this culture .
I have n't figured out if it 's egotism or what , but no one seems interested in each other .
" Welcome to interacting with people who have some wealth .
As someone stateside who 's also a medical professional , I started out in the sticks and moved to an very upscale community ( Bernie Madoff wealth ) about 4 years ago .
My dealings are nearly identical to those you 're describing.I 'm reminded everyday , wealth is the only judge of success in the US that people recognise any more .
The wealthy see themselves as winners of the highest kind .
Anyone else is beneath them , especially if they have to work for a living .
To be fair , a majority of the ones I see did nothing but outlive wealthy parents , or in the case of most of the women , spread their legs for men who inherited wealth.There are exceptions to every rule , but the vast majority I deal with on a daily basis fit this model.When two or more of these people are in the same place , they do one of two things... They 'll either schmooze with each other until they go their separate ways and then talk shit about the other to me , or ignore each others existence completely.I think watching how the other half lives for the past few years has made me cynical and jaded about the future of this country .
It astounds me how inhumane humanity has become at what it considers its " top " .
It also angers me that I have no power to change it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The other thing that gets me about this first 50\% of people who see me with suspicion or look down on me is that no matter what I do, they will always think that they're better than me and I will never be accepted.
""10\% get it right and become interested in me as a person and ask me where I'm from.
I'm of course not here to be asked where I'm from, but it's nice once in a while when someone takes an interest in you.
That's a major issue in this culture.
I haven't figured out if it's egotism or what, but no one seems interested in each other.
"Welcome to interacting with people who have some wealth.
As someone stateside who's also a medical professional, I started out in the sticks and moved to an very upscale community (Bernie Madoff wealth) about 4 years ago.
My dealings are nearly identical to those you're describing.I'm reminded everyday, wealth is the only judge of success in the US that people recognise any more.
The wealthy see themselves as winners of the highest kind.
Anyone else is beneath them, especially if they have to work for a living.
To be fair, a majority of the ones I see did nothing but outlive wealthy parents, or in the case of most of the women, spread their legs for men who inherited wealth.There are exceptions to every rule, but the vast majority I deal with on a daily basis fit this model.When two or more of these people are in the same place, they do one of two things... They'll either schmooze with each other until they go their separate ways and then talk shit about the other to me, or ignore each others existence completely.I think watching how the other half lives for the past few years has made me cynical and jaded about the future of this country.
It astounds me how inhumane humanity has become at what it considers its "top".
It also angers me that I have no power to change it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30017788</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>hkmwbz</author>
	<datestamp>1257598440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I am not intellectually stimulated by Norwegians at the least. The conversations doctors have at lunch revolve around one or two topics.</p></div></blockquote><p>
Maybe you are just hanging around with the wrong crowd. It seems odd to describe 4-5 million Norwegian based on a bunch of rich dudes around a table.</p><blockquote><div><p>Take another country I've lived in, a small one called Iceland. The people there are spectacular. I love them to death. The women? Absolutely fabulous. They refer to Norwegian women as "burger butts".</p></div></blockquote><p>
Burger butts? Sounds like you are making stuff up as you go along.</p><blockquote><div><p>They are a very open and warm people who speak English very well.</p></div></blockquote><p>
That's odd, because Norwegians are well known for their English skills. I don't have the same experience with people from Iceland.</p><blockquote><div><p>One pet peeve of mine here in Norway is that about 90\% of Norwegians don't even try to pronounce my typical English name correctly.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... I've been told that the reason for this is that Norwegians don't like to make mistakes, so they won't try to pronounce my name right for fear of that. When I take a patient into my office for a consultation, about 50\% react in the stereotypical xenophobic way when I shake their hands and introduce myself as their doctor and tell them my name.</p></div></blockquote><p>
Ok, so because they are afraid to make a mistake when pronouncing your name, they are xenophobic?</p><blockquote><div><p>10\% get it right and become interested in me as a person and ask me where I'm from. I'm of course not here to be asked where I'm from, but it's nice once in a while when someone takes an interest in you.</p></div></blockquote><p>
As an American, you should know that Americans are among the most superficial people on the planet. Americans don't ask because they really care. Seriously. You of all people should know that. Norwegians seem to be less happy about superficial small-talk.</p><blockquote><div><p>That's a major issue in this culture. I haven't figured out if it's egotism or what, but no one seems interested in each other.</p></div></blockquote><p>
Or maybe they just aren't as superficial as Americans generally are?</p><blockquote><div><p>The other thing that gets me about this first 50\% of people who see me with suspicion or look down on me is that no matter what I do, they will always think that they're better than me and I will never be accepted.</p></div></blockquote><p>
How do you know that they look down on you? And how are these people who look down on you anyway?</p><blockquote><div><p>they don't get much exposure to the outside world</p></div></blockquote><p>
Apart from their media being completely dominated by foreign productions, you mean? Especially American movies and music.</p><blockquote><div><p>All of the foreigners I've met here have the same things to say about it, especially my American countrymen.</p></div></blockquote><p>
Funny, I have the opposite experience. One has to wonder why you feel the need to invent these things.</p></div>
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<tokenext>I am not intellectually stimulated by Norwegians at the least .
The conversations doctors have at lunch revolve around one or two topics .
Maybe you are just hanging around with the wrong crowd .
It seems odd to describe 4-5 million Norwegian based on a bunch of rich dudes around a table.Take another country I 've lived in , a small one called Iceland .
The people there are spectacular .
I love them to death .
The women ?
Absolutely fabulous .
They refer to Norwegian women as " burger butts " .
Burger butts ?
Sounds like you are making stuff up as you go along.They are a very open and warm people who speak English very well .
That 's odd , because Norwegians are well known for their English skills .
I do n't have the same experience with people from Iceland.One pet peeve of mine here in Norway is that about 90 \ % of Norwegians do n't even try to pronounce my typical English name correctly .
... I 've been told that the reason for this is that Norwegians do n't like to make mistakes , so they wo n't try to pronounce my name right for fear of that .
When I take a patient into my office for a consultation , about 50 \ % react in the stereotypical xenophobic way when I shake their hands and introduce myself as their doctor and tell them my name .
Ok , so because they are afraid to make a mistake when pronouncing your name , they are xenophobic ? 10 \ % get it right and become interested in me as a person and ask me where I 'm from .
I 'm of course not here to be asked where I 'm from , but it 's nice once in a while when someone takes an interest in you .
As an American , you should know that Americans are among the most superficial people on the planet .
Americans do n't ask because they really care .
Seriously. You of all people should know that .
Norwegians seem to be less happy about superficial small-talk.That 's a major issue in this culture .
I have n't figured out if it 's egotism or what , but no one seems interested in each other .
Or maybe they just are n't as superficial as Americans generally are ? The other thing that gets me about this first 50 \ % of people who see me with suspicion or look down on me is that no matter what I do , they will always think that they 're better than me and I will never be accepted .
How do you know that they look down on you ?
And how are these people who look down on you anyway ? they do n't get much exposure to the outside world Apart from their media being completely dominated by foreign productions , you mean ?
Especially American movies and music.All of the foreigners I 've met here have the same things to say about it , especially my American countrymen .
Funny , I have the opposite experience .
One has to wonder why you feel the need to invent these things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am not intellectually stimulated by Norwegians at the least.
The conversations doctors have at lunch revolve around one or two topics.
Maybe you are just hanging around with the wrong crowd.
It seems odd to describe 4-5 million Norwegian based on a bunch of rich dudes around a table.Take another country I've lived in, a small one called Iceland.
The people there are spectacular.
I love them to death.
The women?
Absolutely fabulous.
They refer to Norwegian women as "burger butts".
Burger butts?
Sounds like you are making stuff up as you go along.They are a very open and warm people who speak English very well.
That's odd, because Norwegians are well known for their English skills.
I don't have the same experience with people from Iceland.One pet peeve of mine here in Norway is that about 90\% of Norwegians don't even try to pronounce my typical English name correctly.
... I've been told that the reason for this is that Norwegians don't like to make mistakes, so they won't try to pronounce my name right for fear of that.
When I take a patient into my office for a consultation, about 50\% react in the stereotypical xenophobic way when I shake their hands and introduce myself as their doctor and tell them my name.
Ok, so because they are afraid to make a mistake when pronouncing your name, they are xenophobic?10\% get it right and become interested in me as a person and ask me where I'm from.
I'm of course not here to be asked where I'm from, but it's nice once in a while when someone takes an interest in you.
As an American, you should know that Americans are among the most superficial people on the planet.
Americans don't ask because they really care.
Seriously. You of all people should know that.
Norwegians seem to be less happy about superficial small-talk.That's a major issue in this culture.
I haven't figured out if it's egotism or what, but no one seems interested in each other.
Or maybe they just aren't as superficial as Americans generally are?The other thing that gets me about this first 50\% of people who see me with suspicion or look down on me is that no matter what I do, they will always think that they're better than me and I will never be accepted.
How do you know that they look down on you?
And how are these people who look down on you anyway?they don't get much exposure to the outside world
Apart from their media being completely dominated by foreign productions, you mean?
Especially American movies and music.All of the foreigners I've met here have the same things to say about it, especially my American countrymen.
Funny, I have the opposite experience.
One has to wonder why you feel the need to invent these things.
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	<title>Re:m&#248;lje, &#248;l og linjeakevitt</title>
	<author>Eivind Eklund</author>
	<datestamp>1257769560000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>As others have told you, finnbiff is reindeer cut into small pieces.  It's just pure, lean meat, often served with a sauce of sour cream, onion, mushrooms spiced with juniper berries and black pepper, usually with lingonberry (AKA cowberry, or in norwegian "tytteb&#230;r") jam and boiled potatoes on the side.</p><p>Eivind.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As others have told you , finnbiff is reindeer cut into small pieces .
It 's just pure , lean meat , often served with a sauce of sour cream , onion , mushrooms spiced with juniper berries and black pepper , usually with lingonberry ( AKA cowberry , or in norwegian " tytteb   r " ) jam and boiled potatoes on the side.Eivind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As others have told you, finnbiff is reindeer cut into small pieces.
It's just pure, lean meat, often served with a sauce of sour cream, onion, mushrooms spiced with juniper berries and black pepper, usually with lingonberry (AKA cowberry, or in norwegian "tyttebær") jam and boiled potatoes on the side.Eivind.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30012596</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257532080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cold weather, hot women, health care, and common sense. If their food is any good, maybe I'll move also</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cold weather , hot women , health care , and common sense .
If their food is any good , maybe I 'll move also</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cold weather, hot women, health care, and common sense.
If their food is any good, maybe I'll move also</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>C4st13v4n14</author>
	<datestamp>1257600720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's interesting to me that every single person I've ever met in Norway who lives in Oslo regards the rest of Norway as "the sticks".  I have lived in three different parts of Norway, Oslo being one of them.  I'm from a large city and Oslo was more like a village than city.  I didn't even know how to describe it before a Norwegian called it that.  Oslo is okay, there are things happening there and interesting people, there are good restaurants, shops, bars, clubs, cinemas.  People outside of Oslo tell me "Oslo is not Norway" whilst people from Oslo tell me "Norway is Oslo".  It's all your point of view.  I'm reporting on my experiences alone.  I have quite a few friends here, but they're all foreigners.  I am not intellectually stimulated by Norwegians at the least.  The conversations doctors have at lunch revolve around one or two topics.  At this time of year, it's cross country skiing.  I work with four other doctors in a practice and all we can talk about at lunch is that or swineflu.  It was the same when I was working at a major hospital.</p><p>The women, in perfect honesty, beat out most American women almost every single time.  But I've travelled extensively and I have lived in many places, not just here and in Eastern Europe.  The women here pale in comparison to most other European women.  Take another country I've lived in, a small one called Iceland.  The people there are spectacular.  I love them to death.  The women?  Absolutely fabulous.  They refer to Norwegian women as "burger butts".  They are a very open and warm people who speak English very well.  I felt very accepted there.  The bad?  Well, they're broke for one.  Also, it's impossible to get a job there.</p><p>One pet peeve of mine here in Norway is that about 90\% of Norwegians don't even try to pronounce my typical English name correctly.  When I introduce myself, many of them look down and say "ja vel" (translation: um, okay).  It often seems like a put down a lot of the time because many people I have daily dealings with repeatedly mispronounce it.  Please.  It's a very easy name to pronounce.  I've been told that the reason for this is that Norwegians don't like to make mistakes, so they won't try to pronounce my name right for fear of that.  When I take a patient into my office for a consultation, about 50\% react in the stereotypical xenophobic way when I shake their hands and introduce myself as their doctor and tell them my name.  About 30\% are embarrassed and try to say it.  10\% are just happy I'm there and enthusiastic about getting seen.  10\% get it right and become interested in me as a person and ask me where I'm from.  I'm of course not here to be asked where I'm from, but it's nice once in a while when someone takes an interest in you.  That's a major issue in this culture.  I haven't figured out if it's egotism or what, but no one seems interested in each other.  I feel like I have good contact with and form a bond with a very small percentage of my patients.  There's a good book that describes the people here exactly.  I read it in German, the title was Pferden stehlen (Stealing Horses).  It might be that in English.  Anyway, at one point in the story it's summer and a guy moves into a house out in the country.  He looks out his window and sees his neighbour's house and says to himself "hmmm, I think I'll drop by and say hello after Christmas."  Haha.  To me, that's unbelievable.  It takes people here a very long time to warm up to you and people are very happy to stay in the same job in the same place for 30 years.  It's almost admired.  Someone like me who likes to see the world, experience different cultures, and meet different people are seen with suspicion.  I think that having an understand or at least experience with many different cultures is an asset.  People here don't see it like that.  Since people here travel very little aside from countries like Turkey, Greece, and Spain, they really have nothing to talk about with me.</p><p>The other thing that gets me about this first 50\% of people who see me with suspicion or loo</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's interesting to me that every single person I 've ever met in Norway who lives in Oslo regards the rest of Norway as " the sticks " .
I have lived in three different parts of Norway , Oslo being one of them .
I 'm from a large city and Oslo was more like a village than city .
I did n't even know how to describe it before a Norwegian called it that .
Oslo is okay , there are things happening there and interesting people , there are good restaurants , shops , bars , clubs , cinemas .
People outside of Oslo tell me " Oslo is not Norway " whilst people from Oslo tell me " Norway is Oslo " .
It 's all your point of view .
I 'm reporting on my experiences alone .
I have quite a few friends here , but they 're all foreigners .
I am not intellectually stimulated by Norwegians at the least .
The conversations doctors have at lunch revolve around one or two topics .
At this time of year , it 's cross country skiing .
I work with four other doctors in a practice and all we can talk about at lunch is that or swineflu .
It was the same when I was working at a major hospital.The women , in perfect honesty , beat out most American women almost every single time .
But I 've travelled extensively and I have lived in many places , not just here and in Eastern Europe .
The women here pale in comparison to most other European women .
Take another country I 've lived in , a small one called Iceland .
The people there are spectacular .
I love them to death .
The women ?
Absolutely fabulous .
They refer to Norwegian women as " burger butts " .
They are a very open and warm people who speak English very well .
I felt very accepted there .
The bad ?
Well , they 're broke for one .
Also , it 's impossible to get a job there.One pet peeve of mine here in Norway is that about 90 \ % of Norwegians do n't even try to pronounce my typical English name correctly .
When I introduce myself , many of them look down and say " ja vel " ( translation : um , okay ) .
It often seems like a put down a lot of the time because many people I have daily dealings with repeatedly mispronounce it .
Please. It 's a very easy name to pronounce .
I 've been told that the reason for this is that Norwegians do n't like to make mistakes , so they wo n't try to pronounce my name right for fear of that .
When I take a patient into my office for a consultation , about 50 \ % react in the stereotypical xenophobic way when I shake their hands and introduce myself as their doctor and tell them my name .
About 30 \ % are embarrassed and try to say it .
10 \ % are just happy I 'm there and enthusiastic about getting seen .
10 \ % get it right and become interested in me as a person and ask me where I 'm from .
I 'm of course not here to be asked where I 'm from , but it 's nice once in a while when someone takes an interest in you .
That 's a major issue in this culture .
I have n't figured out if it 's egotism or what , but no one seems interested in each other .
I feel like I have good contact with and form a bond with a very small percentage of my patients .
There 's a good book that describes the people here exactly .
I read it in German , the title was Pferden stehlen ( Stealing Horses ) .
It might be that in English .
Anyway , at one point in the story it 's summer and a guy moves into a house out in the country .
He looks out his window and sees his neighbour 's house and says to himself " hmmm , I think I 'll drop by and say hello after Christmas .
" Haha .
To me , that 's unbelievable .
It takes people here a very long time to warm up to you and people are very happy to stay in the same job in the same place for 30 years .
It 's almost admired .
Someone like me who likes to see the world , experience different cultures , and meet different people are seen with suspicion .
I think that having an understand or at least experience with many different cultures is an asset .
People here do n't see it like that .
Since people here travel very little aside from countries like Turkey , Greece , and Spain , they really have nothing to talk about with me.The other thing that gets me about this first 50 \ % of people who see me with suspicion or loo</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's interesting to me that every single person I've ever met in Norway who lives in Oslo regards the rest of Norway as "the sticks".
I have lived in three different parts of Norway, Oslo being one of them.
I'm from a large city and Oslo was more like a village than city.
I didn't even know how to describe it before a Norwegian called it that.
Oslo is okay, there are things happening there and interesting people, there are good restaurants, shops, bars, clubs, cinemas.
People outside of Oslo tell me "Oslo is not Norway" whilst people from Oslo tell me "Norway is Oslo".
It's all your point of view.
I'm reporting on my experiences alone.
I have quite a few friends here, but they're all foreigners.
I am not intellectually stimulated by Norwegians at the least.
The conversations doctors have at lunch revolve around one or two topics.
At this time of year, it's cross country skiing.
I work with four other doctors in a practice and all we can talk about at lunch is that or swineflu.
It was the same when I was working at a major hospital.The women, in perfect honesty, beat out most American women almost every single time.
But I've travelled extensively and I have lived in many places, not just here and in Eastern Europe.
The women here pale in comparison to most other European women.
Take another country I've lived in, a small one called Iceland.
The people there are spectacular.
I love them to death.
The women?
Absolutely fabulous.
They refer to Norwegian women as "burger butts".
They are a very open and warm people who speak English very well.
I felt very accepted there.
The bad?
Well, they're broke for one.
Also, it's impossible to get a job there.One pet peeve of mine here in Norway is that about 90\% of Norwegians don't even try to pronounce my typical English name correctly.
When I introduce myself, many of them look down and say "ja vel" (translation: um, okay).
It often seems like a put down a lot of the time because many people I have daily dealings with repeatedly mispronounce it.
Please.  It's a very easy name to pronounce.
I've been told that the reason for this is that Norwegians don't like to make mistakes, so they won't try to pronounce my name right for fear of that.
When I take a patient into my office for a consultation, about 50\% react in the stereotypical xenophobic way when I shake their hands and introduce myself as their doctor and tell them my name.
About 30\% are embarrassed and try to say it.
10\% are just happy I'm there and enthusiastic about getting seen.
10\% get it right and become interested in me as a person and ask me where I'm from.
I'm of course not here to be asked where I'm from, but it's nice once in a while when someone takes an interest in you.
That's a major issue in this culture.
I haven't figured out if it's egotism or what, but no one seems interested in each other.
I feel like I have good contact with and form a bond with a very small percentage of my patients.
There's a good book that describes the people here exactly.
I read it in German, the title was Pferden stehlen (Stealing Horses).
It might be that in English.
Anyway, at one point in the story it's summer and a guy moves into a house out in the country.
He looks out his window and sees his neighbour's house and says to himself "hmmm, I think I'll drop by and say hello after Christmas.
"  Haha.
To me, that's unbelievable.
It takes people here a very long time to warm up to you and people are very happy to stay in the same job in the same place for 30 years.
It's almost admired.
Someone like me who likes to see the world, experience different cultures, and meet different people are seen with suspicion.
I think that having an understand or at least experience with many different cultures is an asset.
People here don't see it like that.
Since people here travel very little aside from countries like Turkey, Greece, and Spain, they really have nothing to talk about with me.The other thing that gets me about this first 50\% of people who see me with suspicion or loo</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Omestes</author>
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	<htmltext><p><i>When I take a patient into my office for a consultation, about 50\% react in the stereotypical xenophobic way when I shake their hands and introduce myself as their doctor and tell them my name. About 30\% are embarrassed and try to say it. 10\% are just happy I'm there and enthusiastic about getting seen. 10\% get it right and become interested in me as a person and ask me where I'm from. I'm of course not here to be asked where I'm from, but it's nice once in a while when someone takes an interest in you.</i></p><p>You realize your describing much of the world.  Here in the US (or at least my neck of it), these numbers would be even worse.  How many Americans care to pronounce the "strange" names of foreigners correctly?  How many people in the US actually care about anyone outside of immediate friends and family?   People are people.</p><p>How many people in America, when finding out that their GP is Indian (or such), roll their eye, and aren't happy?</p><p>Hell, I live in Arizona, a state with a large Mexican population, and pretty deep Mexican cultural roots, and how many people care to pronounce such every-day words like "saguaro" or "coyote" correctly?</p><p>Also, I'm sorry the women aren't lithe and submissive enough for your tastes.  This hardly says anything about the country that matters, except you don't like the women.  You do realize that this makes you sound a bit... vapid and shallow... right?  It really doesn't help people take anything your saying seriously.  Some people don't like their women submissive, and some people find harping at a whole nation because some of their women have "big butts" rather silly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I take a patient into my office for a consultation , about 50 \ % react in the stereotypical xenophobic way when I shake their hands and introduce myself as their doctor and tell them my name .
About 30 \ % are embarrassed and try to say it .
10 \ % are just happy I 'm there and enthusiastic about getting seen .
10 \ % get it right and become interested in me as a person and ask me where I 'm from .
I 'm of course not here to be asked where I 'm from , but it 's nice once in a while when someone takes an interest in you.You realize your describing much of the world .
Here in the US ( or at least my neck of it ) , these numbers would be even worse .
How many Americans care to pronounce the " strange " names of foreigners correctly ?
How many people in the US actually care about anyone outside of immediate friends and family ?
People are people.How many people in America , when finding out that their GP is Indian ( or such ) , roll their eye , and are n't happy ? Hell , I live in Arizona , a state with a large Mexican population , and pretty deep Mexican cultural roots , and how many people care to pronounce such every-day words like " saguaro " or " coyote " correctly ? Also , I 'm sorry the women are n't lithe and submissive enough for your tastes .
This hardly says anything about the country that matters , except you do n't like the women .
You do realize that this makes you sound a bit... vapid and shallow... right ? It really does n't help people take anything your saying seriously .
Some people do n't like their women submissive , and some people find harping at a whole nation because some of their women have " big butts " rather silly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I take a patient into my office for a consultation, about 50\% react in the stereotypical xenophobic way when I shake their hands and introduce myself as their doctor and tell them my name.
About 30\% are embarrassed and try to say it.
10\% are just happy I'm there and enthusiastic about getting seen.
10\% get it right and become interested in me as a person and ask me where I'm from.
I'm of course not here to be asked where I'm from, but it's nice once in a while when someone takes an interest in you.You realize your describing much of the world.
Here in the US (or at least my neck of it), these numbers would be even worse.
How many Americans care to pronounce the "strange" names of foreigners correctly?
How many people in the US actually care about anyone outside of immediate friends and family?
People are people.How many people in America, when finding out that their GP is Indian (or such), roll their eye, and aren't happy?Hell, I live in Arizona, a state with a large Mexican population, and pretty deep Mexican cultural roots, and how many people care to pronounce such every-day words like "saguaro" or "coyote" correctly?Also, I'm sorry the women aren't lithe and submissive enough for your tastes.
This hardly says anything about the country that matters, except you don't like the women.
You do realize that this makes you sound a bit... vapid and shallow... right?  It really doesn't help people take anything your saying seriously.
Some people don't like their women submissive, and some people find harping at a whole nation because some of their women have "big butts" rather silly.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257601620000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>We are more "men of the sea" than farmers (our ancestors had to do a little of everything). Prices are high, but so are the salaries. Unlike in the U.S and eastern/southern europe, the overwhelming majority enjoy a high standard of life, and the state will provide for those who can't take care of themselves. I am on disability and make about $32k a year.</p><p>It's true that we are xenophobic, though. I think it's because we've been isolated up here for so long. Before the oil, there was no reason to come here other than the fjords and the fish. Norway is still a very homogenic society, but that is obviously changing now (slashdotted!)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We are more " men of the sea " than farmers ( our ancestors had to do a little of everything ) .
Prices are high , but so are the salaries .
Unlike in the U.S and eastern/southern europe , the overwhelming majority enjoy a high standard of life , and the state will provide for those who ca n't take care of themselves .
I am on disability and make about $ 32k a year.It 's true that we are xenophobic , though .
I think it 's because we 've been isolated up here for so long .
Before the oil , there was no reason to come here other than the fjords and the fish .
Norway is still a very homogenic society , but that is obviously changing now ( slashdotted !
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We are more "men of the sea" than farmers (our ancestors had to do a little of everything).
Prices are high, but so are the salaries.
Unlike in the U.S and eastern/southern europe, the overwhelming majority enjoy a high standard of life, and the state will provide for those who can't take care of themselves.
I am on disability and make about $32k a year.It's true that we are xenophobic, though.
I think it's because we've been isolated up here for so long.
Before the oil, there was no reason to come here other than the fjords and the fish.
Norway is still a very homogenic society, but that is obviously changing now (slashdotted!
)</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257611940000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>I lived in Oslo working as an IT specialist for the past 3 years and, for one, agree with absolutely everything you wrote about the people, culture, food and attitude. Only blind norwegians (or foreigners who had nothing in life before getting there) can't spot the huge controlled bubble they live in. And for the record, I've finally just left the country, because I couldn't stand the people, weather, food and controlled environment anymore. For the record, I truly love Norway, seriously. But I also happen to truly hate it (the people and food, especially). Three years and I don't have a single norwegian friend, it's unbelievable. You're also right about women. They not only have horrific bodies in the vast majority of cases, they also tend to "wear the trousers". Not to mention their lack of culture/topics to speak about besides fashion. Eastern and southern european women are so much more beautiful and interesting. Regarding the wages, norwegians should understand once and for all that the net salaries are not that high whatsoever when you take off the taxable part. As a senior engineer, I was getting a perfectly ordinary salary, and yes, it pissed me off that the guy working at MacDonalds wasn't earning that much less than me. Not to mention that norwegians always earn more than me, sometimes with less education and professional experience. Or the drug addicts that get all they need from the government while I have to work really hard and pay my obscene taxes. Apartments, supermarkets and social life suck up all your money in Norway. I don't know a single young norwegian who spares money at the end of the month. And if there is some left, it all goes to beer and frozen pizza. The health system is not the holy grail they like to shout about. I always had to pay everytime I went to the GP or the hospital. Not that much of an amount of money, but hell, I even had to pay NOK 650 for a pair of cruches I used for a few days, so why do I pay such high taxes? Anyway, I'm out of that weird society now, and despite having a very strong emotional relation with the country, I also like to make things clear and tell my experience, which is exactly the same of all my foreign friends, so please don't come to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. and say that the above user is making things up, just because you're norwegian or married to one, or were really lucky in the country. I don't know a single friend in Oslo who's happy about it, and they come from more than 20 countries. But whatever, sk&#229;l! Go to Norway and experience it for yourself. Make sure you spend at least 2 years there to get to know how the system works and controls the people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I lived in Oslo working as an IT specialist for the past 3 years and , for one , agree with absolutely everything you wrote about the people , culture , food and attitude .
Only blind norwegians ( or foreigners who had nothing in life before getting there ) ca n't spot the huge controlled bubble they live in .
And for the record , I 've finally just left the country , because I could n't stand the people , weather , food and controlled environment anymore .
For the record , I truly love Norway , seriously .
But I also happen to truly hate it ( the people and food , especially ) .
Three years and I do n't have a single norwegian friend , it 's unbelievable .
You 're also right about women .
They not only have horrific bodies in the vast majority of cases , they also tend to " wear the trousers " .
Not to mention their lack of culture/topics to speak about besides fashion .
Eastern and southern european women are so much more beautiful and interesting .
Regarding the wages , norwegians should understand once and for all that the net salaries are not that high whatsoever when you take off the taxable part .
As a senior engineer , I was getting a perfectly ordinary salary , and yes , it pissed me off that the guy working at MacDonalds was n't earning that much less than me .
Not to mention that norwegians always earn more than me , sometimes with less education and professional experience .
Or the drug addicts that get all they need from the government while I have to work really hard and pay my obscene taxes .
Apartments , supermarkets and social life suck up all your money in Norway .
I do n't know a single young norwegian who spares money at the end of the month .
And if there is some left , it all goes to beer and frozen pizza .
The health system is not the holy grail they like to shout about .
I always had to pay everytime I went to the GP or the hospital .
Not that much of an amount of money , but hell , I even had to pay NOK 650 for a pair of cruches I used for a few days , so why do I pay such high taxes ?
Anyway , I 'm out of that weird society now , and despite having a very strong emotional relation with the country , I also like to make things clear and tell my experience , which is exactly the same of all my foreign friends , so please do n't come to / .
and say that the above user is making things up , just because you 're norwegian or married to one , or were really lucky in the country .
I do n't know a single friend in Oslo who 's happy about it , and they come from more than 20 countries .
But whatever , sk   l !
Go to Norway and experience it for yourself .
Make sure you spend at least 2 years there to get to know how the system works and controls the people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I lived in Oslo working as an IT specialist for the past 3 years and, for one, agree with absolutely everything you wrote about the people, culture, food and attitude.
Only blind norwegians (or foreigners who had nothing in life before getting there) can't spot the huge controlled bubble they live in.
And for the record, I've finally just left the country, because I couldn't stand the people, weather, food and controlled environment anymore.
For the record, I truly love Norway, seriously.
But I also happen to truly hate it (the people and food, especially).
Three years and I don't have a single norwegian friend, it's unbelievable.
You're also right about women.
They not only have horrific bodies in the vast majority of cases, they also tend to "wear the trousers".
Not to mention their lack of culture/topics to speak about besides fashion.
Eastern and southern european women are so much more beautiful and interesting.
Regarding the wages, norwegians should understand once and for all that the net salaries are not that high whatsoever when you take off the taxable part.
As a senior engineer, I was getting a perfectly ordinary salary, and yes, it pissed me off that the guy working at MacDonalds wasn't earning that much less than me.
Not to mention that norwegians always earn more than me, sometimes with less education and professional experience.
Or the drug addicts that get all they need from the government while I have to work really hard and pay my obscene taxes.
Apartments, supermarkets and social life suck up all your money in Norway.
I don't know a single young norwegian who spares money at the end of the month.
And if there is some left, it all goes to beer and frozen pizza.
The health system is not the holy grail they like to shout about.
I always had to pay everytime I went to the GP or the hospital.
Not that much of an amount of money, but hell, I even had to pay NOK 650 for a pair of cruches I used for a few days, so why do I pay such high taxes?
Anyway, I'm out of that weird society now, and despite having a very strong emotional relation with the country, I also like to make things clear and tell my experience, which is exactly the same of all my foreign friends, so please don't come to /.
and say that the above user is making things up, just because you're norwegian or married to one, or were really lucky in the country.
I don't know a single friend in Oslo who's happy about it, and they come from more than 20 countries.
But whatever, skål!
Go to Norway and experience it for yourself.
Make sure you spend at least 2 years there to get to know how the system works and controls the people.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30013084</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257586440000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Hi, I just wanted to clarify a couple of things about Norway here.  I've done this before, you can see a rather lengthy post about Norway <a href="http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1283927&amp;cid=28493615" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">here</a> [slashdot.org].  I hope you find it useful in your immigration plans or at least interesting.  I wrote uncommon sense when I posted the article because Norway has the habit of banning everything and making life really boring.  Some things do make sense, and I really think my home country, the good old USA, could learn a lot from them.  If you've been following the Norwegian news at all, you'll find that Norwegian judges and politicians try to do what they think is best for the people.  They're not by any means pro-pirate, but they refuse to give into pressure from big business to make decisions that will compromise the freedom of the people.  This is one thing I like about my new home.</p><p>I moved to Norway a little more than two years ago.  I'm a doctor here, working as a GP/family doctor, I'm originally from the United States.  I meet hundreds of Norwegians every week, a new one about every 20 minutes for 9-10 hours a day, so I feel if there's one thing I can comment on, it's the people.  In submitting the article, I called it uncommon sense.  This is because Norway generally bans everything and brainwashes its people to become suspicious little watch dogs.  The fines are so stiff that it scares people into even trying something new or foreign.  Take driving, for instance, they are so afraid of going over the speed limit that they drive under it.  Norwegian speed limits are notoriously low for the conditions.  A straight divided highway in the middle of nowhere will have a speed limit of 80 kph (about 49 mph) and people will drive 70.  It drives me insane, especially because I've just switched jobs and have to commute 130 km a day.  Turns a 30 min drive into almost an hour.  In areas where it's safe and legal to pass, people freak out and call the police because it's something people don't really have the balls to do.  I've gotten pulled over a few times for "impolite driving".  I know, it sounds ridiculous.</p><p>Norway is quite isolated both geographically and socially.  This has created a national suspicious and xenophobic attitude towards foreigners and new things.  They were also in "unions" with Denmark and Sweden for hundreds of years, which is why they are very nationalistic and haven't joined the European Union.  Up until around the 1970s, which is when they found oil, they were little more than farmers without any higher education or purpose.  There weren't even roads connecting all the different parts of Norway until the mid 20th century, which is why more than 100 dialects of the Norwegian language survive until today and make learning the Norwegian language difficult.  They didn't know a thing about oil so they enlisted an American company to help them find the reserves under the sea and develop the industry.  Now they're the richest country in the world.  They've avoided the mistakes of other countries and invested the money.  Now they're the richest country in the world in terms of money in the bank.  They invested a lot of money in socialism, which is why Norwegians don't really worry about anything and have a pretty relaxed attitude towards everything because they're always taken care of.</p><p>Health care is also something I can comment on due to my profession, and I believe I've done so <a href="http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1283927&amp;cid=28493615" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">here</a> [slashdot.org].</p><p>Norwegian women are typically not hot.  They also suffer from what I call Norway's form of "Westernism".  Many of them don't really watch their weight or what they eat.  The hot ones know they're hot.  Contemporary Norwegian women have also a peculiar trait I'd never seen before moving here, they are much stronger than the Norwegian men and have most of the power in a relationship.  This isn't true of the older generation.  I lived in Eastern Europe for several years between the US and Norway and those women are the hottest in t</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi , I just wanted to clarify a couple of things about Norway here .
I 've done this before , you can see a rather lengthy post about Norway here [ slashdot.org ] .
I hope you find it useful in your immigration plans or at least interesting .
I wrote uncommon sense when I posted the article because Norway has the habit of banning everything and making life really boring .
Some things do make sense , and I really think my home country , the good old USA , could learn a lot from them .
If you 've been following the Norwegian news at all , you 'll find that Norwegian judges and politicians try to do what they think is best for the people .
They 're not by any means pro-pirate , but they refuse to give into pressure from big business to make decisions that will compromise the freedom of the people .
This is one thing I like about my new home.I moved to Norway a little more than two years ago .
I 'm a doctor here , working as a GP/family doctor , I 'm originally from the United States .
I meet hundreds of Norwegians every week , a new one about every 20 minutes for 9-10 hours a day , so I feel if there 's one thing I can comment on , it 's the people .
In submitting the article , I called it uncommon sense .
This is because Norway generally bans everything and brainwashes its people to become suspicious little watch dogs .
The fines are so stiff that it scares people into even trying something new or foreign .
Take driving , for instance , they are so afraid of going over the speed limit that they drive under it .
Norwegian speed limits are notoriously low for the conditions .
A straight divided highway in the middle of nowhere will have a speed limit of 80 kph ( about 49 mph ) and people will drive 70 .
It drives me insane , especially because I 've just switched jobs and have to commute 130 km a day .
Turns a 30 min drive into almost an hour .
In areas where it 's safe and legal to pass , people freak out and call the police because it 's something people do n't really have the balls to do .
I 've gotten pulled over a few times for " impolite driving " .
I know , it sounds ridiculous.Norway is quite isolated both geographically and socially .
This has created a national suspicious and xenophobic attitude towards foreigners and new things .
They were also in " unions " with Denmark and Sweden for hundreds of years , which is why they are very nationalistic and have n't joined the European Union .
Up until around the 1970s , which is when they found oil , they were little more than farmers without any higher education or purpose .
There were n't even roads connecting all the different parts of Norway until the mid 20th century , which is why more than 100 dialects of the Norwegian language survive until today and make learning the Norwegian language difficult .
They did n't know a thing about oil so they enlisted an American company to help them find the reserves under the sea and develop the industry .
Now they 're the richest country in the world .
They 've avoided the mistakes of other countries and invested the money .
Now they 're the richest country in the world in terms of money in the bank .
They invested a lot of money in socialism , which is why Norwegians do n't really worry about anything and have a pretty relaxed attitude towards everything because they 're always taken care of.Health care is also something I can comment on due to my profession , and I believe I 've done so here [ slashdot.org ] .Norwegian women are typically not hot .
They also suffer from what I call Norway 's form of " Westernism " .
Many of them do n't really watch their weight or what they eat .
The hot ones know they 're hot .
Contemporary Norwegian women have also a peculiar trait I 'd never seen before moving here , they are much stronger than the Norwegian men and have most of the power in a relationship .
This is n't true of the older generation .
I lived in Eastern Europe for several years between the US and Norway and those women are the hottest in t</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi, I just wanted to clarify a couple of things about Norway here.
I've done this before, you can see a rather lengthy post about Norway here [slashdot.org].
I hope you find it useful in your immigration plans or at least interesting.
I wrote uncommon sense when I posted the article because Norway has the habit of banning everything and making life really boring.
Some things do make sense, and I really think my home country, the good old USA, could learn a lot from them.
If you've been following the Norwegian news at all, you'll find that Norwegian judges and politicians try to do what they think is best for the people.
They're not by any means pro-pirate, but they refuse to give into pressure from big business to make decisions that will compromise the freedom of the people.
This is one thing I like about my new home.I moved to Norway a little more than two years ago.
I'm a doctor here, working as a GP/family doctor, I'm originally from the United States.
I meet hundreds of Norwegians every week, a new one about every 20 minutes for 9-10 hours a day, so I feel if there's one thing I can comment on, it's the people.
In submitting the article, I called it uncommon sense.
This is because Norway generally bans everything and brainwashes its people to become suspicious little watch dogs.
The fines are so stiff that it scares people into even trying something new or foreign.
Take driving, for instance, they are so afraid of going over the speed limit that they drive under it.
Norwegian speed limits are notoriously low for the conditions.
A straight divided highway in the middle of nowhere will have a speed limit of 80 kph (about 49 mph) and people will drive 70.
It drives me insane, especially because I've just switched jobs and have to commute 130 km a day.
Turns a 30 min drive into almost an hour.
In areas where it's safe and legal to pass, people freak out and call the police because it's something people don't really have the balls to do.
I've gotten pulled over a few times for "impolite driving".
I know, it sounds ridiculous.Norway is quite isolated both geographically and socially.
This has created a national suspicious and xenophobic attitude towards foreigners and new things.
They were also in "unions" with Denmark and Sweden for hundreds of years, which is why they are very nationalistic and haven't joined the European Union.
Up until around the 1970s, which is when they found oil, they were little more than farmers without any higher education or purpose.
There weren't even roads connecting all the different parts of Norway until the mid 20th century, which is why more than 100 dialects of the Norwegian language survive until today and make learning the Norwegian language difficult.
They didn't know a thing about oil so they enlisted an American company to help them find the reserves under the sea and develop the industry.
Now they're the richest country in the world.
They've avoided the mistakes of other countries and invested the money.
Now they're the richest country in the world in terms of money in the bank.
They invested a lot of money in socialism, which is why Norwegians don't really worry about anything and have a pretty relaxed attitude towards everything because they're always taken care of.Health care is also something I can comment on due to my profession, and I believe I've done so here [slashdot.org].Norwegian women are typically not hot.
They also suffer from what I call Norway's form of "Westernism".
Many of them don't really watch their weight or what they eat.
The hot ones know they're hot.
Contemporary Norwegian women have also a peculiar trait I'd never seen before moving here, they are much stronger than the Norwegian men and have most of the power in a relationship.
This isn't true of the older generation.
I lived in Eastern Europe for several years between the US and Norway and those women are the hottest in t</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Hot women *and* weather soon enough....</title>
	<author>commodore64\_love</author>
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	<htmltext><p>Global warming will not increase the amount of sunlight received in Norway.  The people will still be light-skinned.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Global warming will not increase the amount of sunlight received in Norway .
The people will still be light-skinned .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Global warming will not increase the amount of sunlight received in Norway.
The people will still be light-skinned.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Eivind Eklund</author>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Cold weather, hot women, health care, and common sense. If their food is any good, maybe I'll move also</p></div><p>Whether the food is good depends on where you are.  There's a quite good selection in the cities in the southern part of the country (most of the ones you'll hear about), both in terms of quality and availability in shops and restaurants (ethnic or french inspired, for the most part).  There's more remote parts that have a horrid selection.</p><p>Norway does not really have that much of a classic food culture; we used to be poor.  The present day food culture is to a large degree imported; lots of Italian and a bit of indian/mexican/etc.  Going back a while, it was more germanic, so you'll find germanic inspired dishes as the more "old school" dishes.  E.g, first fry and then cook meat, and serve with root vegetables and gravy.</p><p>Eivind.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Cold weather , hot women , health care , and common sense .
If their food is any good , maybe I 'll move alsoWhether the food is good depends on where you are .
There 's a quite good selection in the cities in the southern part of the country ( most of the ones you 'll hear about ) , both in terms of quality and availability in shops and restaurants ( ethnic or french inspired , for the most part ) .
There 's more remote parts that have a horrid selection.Norway does not really have that much of a classic food culture ; we used to be poor .
The present day food culture is to a large degree imported ; lots of Italian and a bit of indian/mexican/etc .
Going back a while , it was more germanic , so you 'll find germanic inspired dishes as the more " old school " dishes .
E.g , first fry and then cook meat , and serve with root vegetables and gravy.Eivind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cold weather, hot women, health care, and common sense.
If their food is any good, maybe I'll move alsoWhether the food is good depends on where you are.
There's a quite good selection in the cities in the southern part of the country (most of the ones you'll hear about), both in terms of quality and availability in shops and restaurants (ethnic or french inspired, for the most part).
There's more remote parts that have a horrid selection.Norway does not really have that much of a classic food culture; we used to be poor.
The present day food culture is to a large degree imported; lots of Italian and a bit of indian/mexican/etc.
Going back a while, it was more germanic, so you'll find germanic inspired dishes as the more "old school" dishes.
E.g, first fry and then cook meat, and serve with root vegetables and gravy.Eivind.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30017462</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Tubal-Cain</author>
	<datestamp>1257595500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Who cares about beer? I want to know the prices of caffeinated beverages.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who cares about beer ?
I want to know the prices of caffeinated beverages .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who cares about beer?
I want to know the prices of caffeinated beverages.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30016704</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257587880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Spot on....</p><p>westerner living in Oslo.  A very apt description.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Spot on....westerner living in Oslo .
A very apt description .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Spot on....westerner living in Oslo.
A very apt description.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30015480</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257620760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Personally I think it has a lot to do with your attitude when it comes to getting "integrated" into the Norwegian community.</p><p>That people look at you as different is because you -are- different. Deal with it.</p><p>When it comes to your pet peeve of not getting your name pronounecd right.. Try saying "Kjetil", if you get it right, even on the 25th try I'll give you a bottle of scotch...<br>My bloody name was dubbed "Dobby, the house geek" by most of the americans and canadians that installed stuff where I worked a few years ago... I found it amusing, but still... They could not at all say my name. And it is a very simple name to pronounce (if you're Norwegian that is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-p)</p><p>So.. If your largest pet peeve is that your name isnt pronounced right perhaps you dont have all that many peeves to worry about.</p><p>I have several foreign coworkers working alongside me in the current project I'm assigned to. One Canadian (project lead), one indian (project engineer), one american (specialist, developer) and a Finnish person (project lead on a related project).....<br>All are treated the same.</p><p>As you say your croatian friends are not treated as well as they should. Well, unfortunately there is a reason people are so reluctant to embrace eastern european people. There has been a shit-ton of crime 'imported' from the areas. We had tons of people coming here to work illegally, doing horribly bad quality work I might add, every year. That impression doesnt just disappear. The countries of eastern europe has gotten that 'stamp' so to speak and will have to live with that for a while. It fades over time but damnit it is only natural for some people to be distrusting.</p><p>Look at the issues of mexican and cuban immigration in the southern US... Dont come here and tell -us- about how shitty -we- treat the immigrated workers. Fix your own shit first<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-p</p><p>So.. it depends on where you work, how you behave and for crying out loud, dont be so annoyed at small things. Deal with the greater issues and fuck the same things.</p><p>Meh, I'm grumpy today.<br>Very grumpy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Personally I think it has a lot to do with your attitude when it comes to getting " integrated " into the Norwegian community.That people look at you as different is because you -are- different .
Deal with it.When it comes to your pet peeve of not getting your name pronounecd right.. Try saying " Kjetil " , if you get it right , even on the 25th try I 'll give you a bottle of scotch...My bloody name was dubbed " Dobby , the house geek " by most of the americans and canadians that installed stuff where I worked a few years ago... I found it amusing , but still... They could not at all say my name .
And it is a very simple name to pronounce ( if you 're Norwegian that is : -p ) So.. If your largest pet peeve is that your name isnt pronounced right perhaps you dont have all that many peeves to worry about.I have several foreign coworkers working alongside me in the current project I 'm assigned to .
One Canadian ( project lead ) , one indian ( project engineer ) , one american ( specialist , developer ) and a Finnish person ( project lead on a related project ) .....All are treated the same.As you say your croatian friends are not treated as well as they should .
Well , unfortunately there is a reason people are so reluctant to embrace eastern european people .
There has been a shit-ton of crime 'imported ' from the areas .
We had tons of people coming here to work illegally , doing horribly bad quality work I might add , every year .
That impression doesnt just disappear .
The countries of eastern europe has gotten that 'stamp ' so to speak and will have to live with that for a while .
It fades over time but damnit it is only natural for some people to be distrusting.Look at the issues of mexican and cuban immigration in the southern US... Dont come here and tell -us- about how shitty -we- treat the immigrated workers .
Fix your own shit first : -pSo.. it depends on where you work , how you behave and for crying out loud , dont be so annoyed at small things .
Deal with the greater issues and fuck the same things.Meh , I 'm grumpy today.Very grumpy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Personally I think it has a lot to do with your attitude when it comes to getting "integrated" into the Norwegian community.That people look at you as different is because you -are- different.
Deal with it.When it comes to your pet peeve of not getting your name pronounecd right.. Try saying "Kjetil", if you get it right, even on the 25th try I'll give you a bottle of scotch...My bloody name was dubbed "Dobby, the house geek" by most of the americans and canadians that installed stuff where I worked a few years ago... I found it amusing, but still... They could not at all say my name.
And it is a very simple name to pronounce (if you're Norwegian that is :-p)So.. If your largest pet peeve is that your name isnt pronounced right perhaps you dont have all that many peeves to worry about.I have several foreign coworkers working alongside me in the current project I'm assigned to.
One Canadian (project lead), one indian (project engineer), one american (specialist, developer) and a Finnish person (project lead on a related project).....All are treated the same.As you say your croatian friends are not treated as well as they should.
Well, unfortunately there is a reason people are so reluctant to embrace eastern european people.
There has been a shit-ton of crime 'imported' from the areas.
We had tons of people coming here to work illegally, doing horribly bad quality work I might add, every year.
That impression doesnt just disappear.
The countries of eastern europe has gotten that 'stamp' so to speak and will have to live with that for a while.
It fades over time but damnit it is only natural for some people to be distrusting.Look at the issues of mexican and cuban immigration in the southern US... Dont come here and tell -us- about how shitty -we- treat the immigrated workers.
Fix your own shit first :-pSo.. it depends on where you work, how you behave and for crying out loud, dont be so annoyed at small things.
Deal with the greater issues and fuck the same things.Meh, I'm grumpy today.Very grumpy.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30012642</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257533460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Norway is excellent.
<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/05/norway-best-place-to-live\_n\_309698.html" title="huffingtonpost.com">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/05/norway-best-place-to-live\_n\_309698.html</a> [huffingtonpost.com]
and
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGTzbj3fRSw" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGTzbj3fRSw</a> [youtube.com]
and yes, hot women</htmltext>
<tokenext>Norway is excellent .
http : //www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/05/norway-best-place-to-live \ _n \ _309698.html [ huffingtonpost.com ] and http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = uGTzbj3fRSw [ youtube.com ] and yes , hot women</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Norway is excellent.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/05/norway-best-place-to-live\_n\_309698.html [huffingtonpost.com]
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGTzbj3fRSw [youtube.com]
and yes, hot women</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30013986</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>blind biker</author>
	<datestamp>1257604860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Take driving, for instance, they are so afraid of going over the speed limit that they drive under it.</p></div><p>It's a speed <b>limit</b>, isn't it? Isn't it common sense to drive below a limit? I've lived for many years in a country where drivers are too often killers. The courts are lenient towards drivers that cause accidents. Drivers drive too fast too often, but nothing changes.</p><p>Norway sounds like heaven, from your description. The fact that you think breaking the law by driving over the limit is "common sense", speaks volumes about yourself.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Take driving , for instance , they are so afraid of going over the speed limit that they drive under it.It 's a speed limit , is n't it ?
Is n't it common sense to drive below a limit ?
I 've lived for many years in a country where drivers are too often killers .
The courts are lenient towards drivers that cause accidents .
Drivers drive too fast too often , but nothing changes.Norway sounds like heaven , from your description .
The fact that you think breaking the law by driving over the limit is " common sense " , speaks volumes about yourself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Take driving, for instance, they are so afraid of going over the speed limit that they drive under it.It's a speed limit, isn't it?
Isn't it common sense to drive below a limit?
I've lived for many years in a country where drivers are too often killers.
The courts are lenient towards drivers that cause accidents.
Drivers drive too fast too often, but nothing changes.Norway sounds like heaven, from your description.
The fact that you think breaking the law by driving over the limit is "common sense", speaks volumes about yourself.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30017110</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>hkmwbz</author>
	<datestamp>1257591660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So what you are saying is that Norway manages to be an awesome country because it can basically suck money straight out of the ground.

<p>What happens when the supply of money runs out?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So what you are saying is that Norway manages to be an awesome country because it can basically suck money straight out of the ground .
What happens when the supply of money runs out ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So what you are saying is that Norway manages to be an awesome country because it can basically suck money straight out of the ground.
What happens when the supply of money runs out?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30013190</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257590040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Us Norwegians really come out in full on slashdot whenever we're mentioned, don't we.</p><p>Anyway, we have to realize that much of our "success" has been pure luck, in the form of the above mentioned oil. I for one am not so sure how well our social democracy will fare once the oil runs out. It's a fantastic place to live while it lasts, but when it ends there's no substantial source of income to replace it with.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Us Norwegians really come out in full on slashdot whenever we 're mentioned , do n't we.Anyway , we have to realize that much of our " success " has been pure luck , in the form of the above mentioned oil .
I for one am not so sure how well our social democracy will fare once the oil runs out .
It 's a fantastic place to live while it lasts , but when it ends there 's no substantial source of income to replace it with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Us Norwegians really come out in full on slashdot whenever we're mentioned, don't we.Anyway, we have to realize that much of our "success" has been pure luck, in the form of the above mentioned oil.
I for one am not so sure how well our social democracy will fare once the oil runs out.
It's a fantastic place to live while it lasts, but when it ends there's no substantial source of income to replace it with.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30013222</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257591240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It sounds like you live somewhere out in the sticks and have not been able to fit in. You almost sound a little bitter.</p><p>I have lived in Oslo for the past ten years and what you are describing is unfamiliar to me. It's like I should move to Arkansas and write a generalization of the US based on my experiences there.</p><p>Specifically;<br>- The women are often very hot and generally take good care of themselves. But they can be quite stuck up and demanding.<br>- It is not true that they were just uneducated farmers before the oil. They had one of the worlds largest fleets long before that.<br>- It is true that the prices are high, but not compared to their income. Their PPP is one of the highest in the world.<br>- Most people dont want the EU because the country is so wealthy there is very little the EU can offer. I dont think Xenophoby comes into it<br>- "They invested a lot of money in socialism"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. What does that even mean? Are you talking about the welfare state?<br>- "This is because Norway generally bans everything and brainwashes its people to become suspicious little watch dogs." - I cant think what you mean with this. Norwat is pretty liberal compared to the country you come from. (Except for alcohol and speed limits)</p><p>Mod parent down</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It sounds like you live somewhere out in the sticks and have not been able to fit in .
You almost sound a little bitter.I have lived in Oslo for the past ten years and what you are describing is unfamiliar to me .
It 's like I should move to Arkansas and write a generalization of the US based on my experiences there.Specifically ; - The women are often very hot and generally take good care of themselves .
But they can be quite stuck up and demanding.- It is not true that they were just uneducated farmers before the oil .
They had one of the worlds largest fleets long before that.- It is true that the prices are high , but not compared to their income .
Their PPP is one of the highest in the world.- Most people dont want the EU because the country is so wealthy there is very little the EU can offer .
I dont think Xenophoby comes into it- " They invested a lot of money in socialism " .. What does that even mean ?
Are you talking about the welfare state ? - " This is because Norway generally bans everything and brainwashes its people to become suspicious little watch dogs .
" - I cant think what you mean with this .
Norwat is pretty liberal compared to the country you come from .
( Except for alcohol and speed limits ) Mod parent down</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It sounds like you live somewhere out in the sticks and have not been able to fit in.
You almost sound a little bitter.I have lived in Oslo for the past ten years and what you are describing is unfamiliar to me.
It's like I should move to Arkansas and write a generalization of the US based on my experiences there.Specifically;- The women are often very hot and generally take good care of themselves.
But they can be quite stuck up and demanding.- It is not true that they were just uneducated farmers before the oil.
They had one of the worlds largest fleets long before that.- It is true that the prices are high, but not compared to their income.
Their PPP is one of the highest in the world.- Most people dont want the EU because the country is so wealthy there is very little the EU can offer.
I dont think Xenophoby comes into it- "They invested a lot of money in socialism" .. What does that even mean?
Are you talking about the welfare state?- "This is because Norway generally bans everything and brainwashes its people to become suspicious little watch dogs.
" - I cant think what you mean with this.
Norwat is pretty liberal compared to the country you come from.
(Except for alcohol and speed limits)Mod parent down</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30013192</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257590040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>If their food is any good,</p></div></blockquote><p>Tough question.</p><p>We seem to have a habit of winning Bocuse d'Or and similar competitions.</p><p>Most norwegians haven't got a clue, though. Our grocery stores are frankly crap, most norwegian food is industrially produced by big corporations, and is expensive to top it off.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If their food is any good,Tough question.We seem to have a habit of winning Bocuse d'Or and similar competitions.Most norwegians have n't got a clue , though .
Our grocery stores are frankly crap , most norwegian food is industrially produced by big corporations , and is expensive to top it off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If their food is any good,Tough question.We seem to have a habit of winning Bocuse d'Or and similar competitions.Most norwegians haven't got a clue, though.
Our grocery stores are frankly crap, most norwegian food is industrially produced by big corporations, and is expensive to top it off.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30013230</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Sheen</author>
	<datestamp>1257591720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I do not know where in norway you live, but what you describe...doesnt sound like the same country i live in, here in western norway ( bergen ) people push the speedlimit, average speed on a 80 kph highway is about 85, police wont bother you until you're over 90-95.

The same city in question, has historicly been a major trading city, even before americas was discovered ( Hanseatic League 1200 AD-&gt;), and is still one of the most visited ports in the world, in trade and in tourism. There has also been allot of cultural trade ever since the vikings headed over to England to have some fun.

The food. You can basicly get the exact same food here, that you can get in every other european country, and the food is -cheaper- in norway, then in any other country in europe, if you compare it with the wages we get here. ( you make about 23us$ an hour working at Mcdonalds.) So offcourse food has to be expencive, people who work at slaughterhouses and shops needs to get payed too. If you dont like that you can make 60 000 us$ a year working at McDonalds, while you as a MD make about 100 000us$ a year , too bad, move back to US where there are more social differences, and therefore, crime. Cant even understand why you would live here, if it bothers you that much.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do not know where in norway you live , but what you describe...doesnt sound like the same country i live in , here in western norway ( bergen ) people push the speedlimit , average speed on a 80 kph highway is about 85 , police wont bother you until you 're over 90-95 .
The same city in question , has historicly been a major trading city , even before americas was discovered ( Hanseatic League 1200 AD- &gt; ) , and is still one of the most visited ports in the world , in trade and in tourism .
There has also been allot of cultural trade ever since the vikings headed over to England to have some fun .
The food .
You can basicly get the exact same food here , that you can get in every other european country , and the food is -cheaper- in norway , then in any other country in europe , if you compare it with the wages we get here .
( you make about 23us $ an hour working at Mcdonalds .
) So offcourse food has to be expencive , people who work at slaughterhouses and shops needs to get payed too .
If you dont like that you can make 60 000 us $ a year working at McDonalds , while you as a MD make about 100 000us $ a year , too bad , move back to US where there are more social differences , and therefore , crime .
Cant even understand why you would live here , if it bothers you that much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do not know where in norway you live, but what you describe...doesnt sound like the same country i live in, here in western norway ( bergen ) people push the speedlimit, average speed on a 80 kph highway is about 85, police wont bother you until you're over 90-95.
The same city in question, has historicly been a major trading city, even before americas was discovered ( Hanseatic League 1200 AD-&gt;), and is still one of the most visited ports in the world, in trade and in tourism.
There has also been allot of cultural trade ever since the vikings headed over to England to have some fun.
The food.
You can basicly get the exact same food here, that you can get in every other european country, and the food is -cheaper- in norway, then in any other country in europe, if you compare it with the wages we get here.
( you make about 23us$ an hour working at Mcdonalds.
) So offcourse food has to be expencive, people who work at slaughterhouses and shops needs to get payed too.
If you dont like that you can make 60 000 us$ a year working at McDonalds, while you as a MD make about 100 000us$ a year , too bad, move back to US where there are more social differences, and therefore, crime.
Cant even understand why you would live here, if it bothers you that much.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30017572</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>hkmwbz</author>
	<datestamp>1257596400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Norwegian speed limits are notoriously low for the conditions. A straight divided highway in the middle of nowhere will have a speed limit of 80 kph (about 49 mph) and people will drive 70.</p></div></blockquote><p>
Huh? That's not my experience. Some roads have a 110 (or 120?) kph speed limit, and the traffic generally flows well above the limit.</p><blockquote><div><p>Up until around the 1970s, which is when they found oil, they were little more than farmers without any higher education or purpose.</p></div></blockquote><p>
Actually, Norway was more of a fishing/shipping nation than a farming nation, and has had some of the world's best and most advanced fleets.</p><blockquote><div><p>Typical Norwegian food is poisonous</p></div></blockquote><p>
Huh?</p></div>
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<tokenext>Norwegian speed limits are notoriously low for the conditions .
A straight divided highway in the middle of nowhere will have a speed limit of 80 kph ( about 49 mph ) and people will drive 70 .
Huh ? That 's not my experience .
Some roads have a 110 ( or 120 ?
) kph speed limit , and the traffic generally flows well above the limit.Up until around the 1970s , which is when they found oil , they were little more than farmers without any higher education or purpose .
Actually , Norway was more of a fishing/shipping nation than a farming nation , and has had some of the world 's best and most advanced fleets.Typical Norwegian food is poisonous Huh ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Norwegian speed limits are notoriously low for the conditions.
A straight divided highway in the middle of nowhere will have a speed limit of 80 kph (about 49 mph) and people will drive 70.
Huh? That's not my experience.
Some roads have a 110 (or 120?
) kph speed limit, and the traffic generally flows well above the limit.Up until around the 1970s, which is when they found oil, they were little more than farmers without any higher education or purpose.
Actually, Norway was more of a fishing/shipping nation than a farming nation, and has had some of the world's best and most advanced fleets.Typical Norwegian food is poisonous
Huh?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30012812</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Narpak</author>
	<datestamp>1257624360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>From the Huffingtonpost article <i>"Norway's consistently high rating for desirable living standards, is, in large part, the result of the discovery of offshore oil and gas deposits in the late 1960s."</i> <br> <br>
What isn't mentioned is that when oil and gas were discovered the Norwegian government decided to nationalize those resources (meaning state owned and operated) as the profit from such industry should benefit all the citizens of Norway. They then proceeded to borrow tons of money from various other nations with security in future revenue and spent that money (and the mentioned future revenue; now past and present revenue) to invest heavily in infrastructure (schools, hospitals, roads and etc). Also they offered public scholarships and decent student loans to everyone with the grades to get into a University; as a highly educated population was, and is, seen as beneficial to Norwegian society.<br> <br>Norway, as the other nations of Scandinavia (to a varying degree); are <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social\_Democrat" title="wikipedia.org">Social democracies</a> [wikipedia.org] (as in Socialist Democracies); which is held, at least by the center-&gt;left side of politics (and to be fair some on the right in Norway are to the left of those on the left in nations like the US) as the reason for our high standard of living up to this point.</htmltext>
<tokenext>From the Huffingtonpost article " Norway 's consistently high rating for desirable living standards , is , in large part , the result of the discovery of offshore oil and gas deposits in the late 1960s .
" What is n't mentioned is that when oil and gas were discovered the Norwegian government decided to nationalize those resources ( meaning state owned and operated ) as the profit from such industry should benefit all the citizens of Norway .
They then proceeded to borrow tons of money from various other nations with security in future revenue and spent that money ( and the mentioned future revenue ; now past and present revenue ) to invest heavily in infrastructure ( schools , hospitals , roads and etc ) .
Also they offered public scholarships and decent student loans to everyone with the grades to get into a University ; as a highly educated population was , and is , seen as beneficial to Norwegian society .
Norway , as the other nations of Scandinavia ( to a varying degree ) ; are Social democracies [ wikipedia.org ] ( as in Socialist Democracies ) ; which is held , at least by the center- &gt; left side of politics ( and to be fair some on the right in Norway are to the left of those on the left in nations like the US ) as the reason for our high standard of living up to this point .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the Huffingtonpost article "Norway's consistently high rating for desirable living standards, is, in large part, the result of the discovery of offshore oil and gas deposits in the late 1960s.
"  
What isn't mentioned is that when oil and gas were discovered the Norwegian government decided to nationalize those resources (meaning state owned and operated) as the profit from such industry should benefit all the citizens of Norway.
They then proceeded to borrow tons of money from various other nations with security in future revenue and spent that money (and the mentioned future revenue; now past and present revenue) to invest heavily in infrastructure (schools, hospitals, roads and etc).
Also they offered public scholarships and decent student loans to everyone with the grades to get into a University; as a highly educated population was, and is, seen as beneficial to Norwegian society.
Norway, as the other nations of Scandinavia (to a varying degree); are Social democracies [wikipedia.org] (as in Socialist Democracies); which is held, at least by the center-&gt;left side of politics (and to be fair some on the right in Norway are to the left of those on the left in nations like the US) as the reason for our high standard of living up to this point.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30014096</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>IrquiM</author>
	<datestamp>1257606420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Compare it to the wages. A McDonald's worker gets at least as much beer as in US for his paycheck.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Compare it to the wages .
A McDonald 's worker gets at least as much beer as in US for his paycheck .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Compare it to the wages.
A McDonald's worker gets at least as much beer as in US for his paycheck.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30020622</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>DNS-and-BIND</author>
	<datestamp>1257684900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well!  Finally someone has solved the "where will the neverending flow of new money come from" aspect of socialism that has bedeviled so many attempts to implement it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well !
Finally someone has solved the " where will the neverending flow of new money come from " aspect of socialism that has bedeviled so many attempts to implement it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well!
Finally someone has solved the "where will the neverending flow of new money come from" aspect of socialism that has bedeviled so many attempts to implement it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30015444</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Khenke</author>
	<datestamp>1257620520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lucky us non english speaking people you american's would never insult us if we spell of pronounce anything wrong. And we really look up to how you treat Mexican/Indian/Chinese/Black/European/Arab/Poor/African people.<br>And we are really thankful for everything you push on us since we don't understand better.</p><p>I wish we was so open and understanding as you are. I'm really trying as you can see, but forgive me if I'm not good enough.<br>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lucky us non english speaking people you american 's would never insult us if we spell of pronounce anything wrong .
And we really look up to how you treat Mexican/Indian/Chinese/Black/European/Arab/Poor/African people.And we are really thankful for everything you push on us since we do n't understand better.I wish we was so open and understanding as you are .
I 'm really trying as you can see , but forgive me if I 'm not good enough .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lucky us non english speaking people you american's would never insult us if we spell of pronounce anything wrong.
And we really look up to how you treat Mexican/Indian/Chinese/Black/European/Arab/Poor/African people.And we are really thankful for everything you push on us since we don't understand better.I wish we was so open and understanding as you are.
I'm really trying as you can see, but forgive me if I'm not good enough.
 </sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30013586</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257598380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Its the perfect country, the problem is that its infested by smug norwegians..<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/love from sweden</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its the perfect country , the problem is that its infested by smug norwegians.. /love from sweden</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its the perfect country, the problem is that its infested by smug norwegians.. /love from sweden</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30063158</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>jesset77</author>
	<datestamp>1257103200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Its the perfect country, the problem is that its infested by smug norwegians..<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/love from sweden</p></div><p>Wait, I thought <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebqdwQzmSHM" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">Norway was the CAPITOL of Sweden</a> [youtube.com]? &lt;/confused&gt;</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Its the perfect country , the problem is that its infested by smug norwegians.. /love from swedenWait , I thought Norway was the CAPITOL of Sweden [ youtube.com ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its the perfect country, the problem is that its infested by smug norwegians.. /love from swedenWait, I thought Norway was the CAPITOL of Sweden [youtube.com]? 
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30017746</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Djupblue</author>
	<datestamp>1257598020000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Exactly, the rest of Scandinavia has no oil and the standard of living is very comparable to Norway. Of course the oil helps but all about politics. Norway prioritizes the common good before private profit. That is why you are likely to have courts that doesn't look upon copyright infringement as to be so serious as to need special treatment. That's why they have free health care, nice prisons (criminals are also people) and strict laws on alcohol.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/Swede</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly , the rest of Scandinavia has no oil and the standard of living is very comparable to Norway .
Of course the oil helps but all about politics .
Norway prioritizes the common good before private profit .
That is why you are likely to have courts that does n't look upon copyright infringement as to be so serious as to need special treatment .
That 's why they have free health care , nice prisons ( criminals are also people ) and strict laws on alcohol .
/Swede</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly, the rest of Scandinavia has no oil and the standard of living is very comparable to Norway.
Of course the oil helps but all about politics.
Norway prioritizes the common good before private profit.
That is why you are likely to have courts that doesn't look upon copyright infringement as to be so serious as to need special treatment.
That's why they have free health care, nice prisons (criminals are also people) and strict laws on alcohol.
/Swede</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30018332</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257603600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wow, it's hard to know where to begin..

Your comments about the Norwegian tax system are preposterous, and you either have a very poor understanding of it, or you are being being intentionally misleading in order to bring across a point. "Everyone" does most certainly not pay 36\%, in fact the average rate seems to be 27-28\%, which is on par with
most western european countries. People earning half the average wage or less are taxed perhaps 15-20\%, depending on their deductions. Also "most" people don't pay 50\%, although about a quarter of the taxed population pay a "toppskatt", which could lead to a calculated tax above 40\%. Additionally, the 50\% overtime
tax you mention when discussing vacation time is obviously not actual tax, but an additional payment intended to exceed your marginal tax as your earnings for the year presumably will be higher than originally estimated. Any amount exceeding your actual calculated tax will be refunded, with interest, the following year. The intention, which I'm frankly not sure if you understand or not, is to protect you from getting a penalty tax due to having a too low amount deducted by your
employer. I emphasize; the number on your government issued "skattekort" is NOT the amount of tax you will end up paying.

Your dismissal of Norwegian health care as "not free" is also misleading. While it is true that there is a co-pay on each visit, it should also be mentioned that there is a roof applied to these payments, after which an exemption is given so that noone has to pay more than 0.5-1\% of the national average income. This generates income while protecting against snowballing costs of repeated treatments. I'm also fairly certain the government will pay your bill if you really don't have any money.

Now, for some of your more recent opinions.. It appears that your preference in women favour those of the naturally very slim or surgically enhanced persuasion. I won't comment on that save to say that not everyone agrees. I do find your constant inclusion of women and their beauty as a characteristic of a place fairly juvenile and off-putting. It doesn't exactly leave a favorable impression on your other arguments.

Going on, you make a lot of blanket statements and quote some quite obviously made up statistics about Norwegian behavior. A lot of them, it seems, would be true if spoken about nearly any country. It's interesting, for instance, that you don't mention xenophobia in your tales of eastern Europe. And.. pronouncing your name correctly..? Really..!? Maybe being a native English speaker instills these kinds of completely unrealistic expectations, I don't know. Other statements are fairly well statistically proven, such as your claims that Norwegians are non-confrontational and not prone  to emotional outbursts. More on this later. As to your claims that Norway treats it's residents of foreign origin poorly, I'm inclined to agree. I have to say I'm not that worried about you and your golf buddies, though. We have more pressing problems in dealing with our growing slave-caste of African descent washing every floor and dusting every desk at 6am every morning, and getting scammed on the pay while they're at it.

But, to make my main point, most of your experiences seem heavily colored by the fact that the majority of your interactions aren't an anywhere near statistically random sample. As a GP, I think it is fair to assume that your patrons tend to be older rather than younger, and most likely slightly nervous rather than chatty and relaxed. While you assume the raw numbers make you somehow uniquely qualified to spout the absolute truths about "The Norwegian", I postulate that you are vastly more likely to get to see people's worst sides rather than their best. Hell, maybe apprehensiveness towards their GP is a uniquely Norwegian quality, and that is causing your impressions<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;) Anyway, I don't think your views are as fair and balanced as you think they are.

Also.. $50 for a kilo of beef? You sure have some extravagant shopping habits

Jon</div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , it 's hard to know where to begin. . Your comments about the Norwegian tax system are preposterous , and you either have a very poor understanding of it , or you are being being intentionally misleading in order to bring across a point .
" Everyone " does most certainly not pay 36 \ % , in fact the average rate seems to be 27-28 \ % , which is on par with most western european countries .
People earning half the average wage or less are taxed perhaps 15-20 \ % , depending on their deductions .
Also " most " people do n't pay 50 \ % , although about a quarter of the taxed population pay a " toppskatt " , which could lead to a calculated tax above 40 \ % .
Additionally , the 50 \ % overtime tax you mention when discussing vacation time is obviously not actual tax , but an additional payment intended to exceed your marginal tax as your earnings for the year presumably will be higher than originally estimated .
Any amount exceeding your actual calculated tax will be refunded , with interest , the following year .
The intention , which I 'm frankly not sure if you understand or not , is to protect you from getting a penalty tax due to having a too low amount deducted by your employer .
I emphasize ; the number on your government issued " skattekort " is NOT the amount of tax you will end up paying .
Your dismissal of Norwegian health care as " not free " is also misleading .
While it is true that there is a co-pay on each visit , it should also be mentioned that there is a roof applied to these payments , after which an exemption is given so that noone has to pay more than 0.5-1 \ % of the national average income .
This generates income while protecting against snowballing costs of repeated treatments .
I 'm also fairly certain the government will pay your bill if you really do n't have any money .
Now , for some of your more recent opinions.. It appears that your preference in women favour those of the naturally very slim or surgically enhanced persuasion .
I wo n't comment on that save to say that not everyone agrees .
I do find your constant inclusion of women and their beauty as a characteristic of a place fairly juvenile and off-putting .
It does n't exactly leave a favorable impression on your other arguments .
Going on , you make a lot of blanket statements and quote some quite obviously made up statistics about Norwegian behavior .
A lot of them , it seems , would be true if spoken about nearly any country .
It 's interesting , for instance , that you do n't mention xenophobia in your tales of eastern Europe .
And.. pronouncing your name correctly.. ?
Really.. ! ? Maybe being a native English speaker instills these kinds of completely unrealistic expectations , I do n't know .
Other statements are fairly well statistically proven , such as your claims that Norwegians are non-confrontational and not prone to emotional outbursts .
More on this later .
As to your claims that Norway treats it 's residents of foreign origin poorly , I 'm inclined to agree .
I have to say I 'm not that worried about you and your golf buddies , though .
We have more pressing problems in dealing with our growing slave-caste of African descent washing every floor and dusting every desk at 6am every morning , and getting scammed on the pay while they 're at it .
But , to make my main point , most of your experiences seem heavily colored by the fact that the majority of your interactions are n't an anywhere near statistically random sample .
As a GP , I think it is fair to assume that your patrons tend to be older rather than younger , and most likely slightly nervous rather than chatty and relaxed .
While you assume the raw numbers make you somehow uniquely qualified to spout the absolute truths about " The Norwegian " , I postulate that you are vastly more likely to get to see people 's worst sides rather than their best .
Hell , maybe apprehensiveness towards their GP is a uniquely Norwegian quality , and that is causing your impressions ; ) Anyway , I do n't think your views are as fair and balanced as you think they are .
Also.. $ 50 for a kilo of beef ?
You sure have some extravagant shopping habits Jon</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, it's hard to know where to begin..

Your comments about the Norwegian tax system are preposterous, and you either have a very poor understanding of it, or you are being being intentionally misleading in order to bring across a point.
"Everyone" does most certainly not pay 36\%, in fact the average rate seems to be 27-28\%, which is on par with
most western european countries.
People earning half the average wage or less are taxed perhaps 15-20\%, depending on their deductions.
Also "most" people don't pay 50\%, although about a quarter of the taxed population pay a "toppskatt", which could lead to a calculated tax above 40\%.
Additionally, the 50\% overtime
tax you mention when discussing vacation time is obviously not actual tax, but an additional payment intended to exceed your marginal tax as your earnings for the year presumably will be higher than originally estimated.
Any amount exceeding your actual calculated tax will be refunded, with interest, the following year.
The intention, which I'm frankly not sure if you understand or not, is to protect you from getting a penalty tax due to having a too low amount deducted by your
employer.
I emphasize; the number on your government issued "skattekort" is NOT the amount of tax you will end up paying.
Your dismissal of Norwegian health care as "not free" is also misleading.
While it is true that there is a co-pay on each visit, it should also be mentioned that there is a roof applied to these payments, after which an exemption is given so that noone has to pay more than 0.5-1\% of the national average income.
This generates income while protecting against snowballing costs of repeated treatments.
I'm also fairly certain the government will pay your bill if you really don't have any money.
Now, for some of your more recent opinions.. It appears that your preference in women favour those of the naturally very slim or surgically enhanced persuasion.
I won't comment on that save to say that not everyone agrees.
I do find your constant inclusion of women and their beauty as a characteristic of a place fairly juvenile and off-putting.
It doesn't exactly leave a favorable impression on your other arguments.
Going on, you make a lot of blanket statements and quote some quite obviously made up statistics about Norwegian behavior.
A lot of them, it seems, would be true if spoken about nearly any country.
It's interesting, for instance, that you don't mention xenophobia in your tales of eastern Europe.
And.. pronouncing your name correctly..?
Really..!? Maybe being a native English speaker instills these kinds of completely unrealistic expectations, I don't know.
Other statements are fairly well statistically proven, such as your claims that Norwegians are non-confrontational and not prone  to emotional outbursts.
More on this later.
As to your claims that Norway treats it's residents of foreign origin poorly, I'm inclined to agree.
I have to say I'm not that worried about you and your golf buddies, though.
We have more pressing problems in dealing with our growing slave-caste of African descent washing every floor and dusting every desk at 6am every morning, and getting scammed on the pay while they're at it.
But, to make my main point, most of your experiences seem heavily colored by the fact that the majority of your interactions aren't an anywhere near statistically random sample.
As a GP, I think it is fair to assume that your patrons tend to be older rather than younger, and most likely slightly nervous rather than chatty and relaxed.
While you assume the raw numbers make you somehow uniquely qualified to spout the absolute truths about "The Norwegian", I postulate that you are vastly more likely to get to see people's worst sides rather than their best.
Hell, maybe apprehensiveness towards their GP is a uniquely Norwegian quality, and that is causing your impressions ;) Anyway, I don't think your views are as fair and balanced as you think they are.
Also.. $50 for a kilo of beef?
You sure have some extravagant shopping habits

Jon
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30016416</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257584880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think maybe many Norwegians feel a need to be genuine, and don't feel comfortable with to much small talk. Scenario: I don't know you that well, why should I pretend that I'm your best friend? It seems a bit hypocrite. If I play the role of being your best friend. What should one do if you ask for a favour? And I don't want the bother. Then I will seem a hypocrite, and possibly hurt your feelings, being super friendly, but then not following it up.</p><p>And I don't think that one should be to sensitive, and take things to personal. I think people are a bit shy, and vary of social commitments.<br>Tip for Americans: Every Norwegian I know disdain any form of superficiality. ( I say Americans with reference to some of American TV which can contain quite superficial hosts. (e.g US ver. of Scrapie Challange on Discovery)<nobr> <wbr></nobr>,and some of your politician. (Not Ron Paul, he rocks) )</p><p>I worked at a gas station, with most people it's Hello. Hello  *beep beep* Thank you. Thank you Good bye. Good bye. But some like to chat. (10-20\%)</p><p>If you live in Norway as a foreigner, try joining some social activities. Sports, churches, voluntary work e.g red cross or that type of activities or parties (vorspiel (pre-) / nachspiel (post-party) ). Then I think you would get to know more Norwegians. It seems to me that the only contact you have with Norwegians is through your job, and that isn't a optimal arena to get to know people.<br>My friends and family like to invite each other home for dinner. And do activities in our homes. We don't hang out in pubs or caf&#233;s that much.</p><p>So the rule of the game is: Get to know people in unformal social activities, after a while when you get to know people, you can invite them home for dinner.</p><p>Just picture Norwegians as large Hobbits.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think maybe many Norwegians feel a need to be genuine , and do n't feel comfortable with to much small talk .
Scenario : I do n't know you that well , why should I pretend that I 'm your best friend ?
It seems a bit hypocrite .
If I play the role of being your best friend .
What should one do if you ask for a favour ?
And I do n't want the bother .
Then I will seem a hypocrite , and possibly hurt your feelings , being super friendly , but then not following it up.And I do n't think that one should be to sensitive , and take things to personal .
I think people are a bit shy , and vary of social commitments.Tip for Americans : Every Norwegian I know disdain any form of superficiality .
( I say Americans with reference to some of American TV which can contain quite superficial hosts .
( e.g US ver .
of Scrapie Challange on Discovery ) ,and some of your politician .
( Not Ron Paul , he rocks ) ) I worked at a gas station , with most people it 's Hello .
Hello * beep beep * Thank you .
Thank you Good bye .
Good bye .
But some like to chat .
( 10-20 \ % ) If you live in Norway as a foreigner , try joining some social activities .
Sports , churches , voluntary work e.g red cross or that type of activities or parties ( vorspiel ( pre- ) / nachspiel ( post-party ) ) .
Then I think you would get to know more Norwegians .
It seems to me that the only contact you have with Norwegians is through your job , and that is n't a optimal arena to get to know people.My friends and family like to invite each other home for dinner .
And do activities in our homes .
We do n't hang out in pubs or caf   s that much.So the rule of the game is : Get to know people in unformal social activities , after a while when you get to know people , you can invite them home for dinner.Just picture Norwegians as large Hobbits .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think maybe many Norwegians feel a need to be genuine, and don't feel comfortable with to much small talk.
Scenario: I don't know you that well, why should I pretend that I'm your best friend?
It seems a bit hypocrite.
If I play the role of being your best friend.
What should one do if you ask for a favour?
And I don't want the bother.
Then I will seem a hypocrite, and possibly hurt your feelings, being super friendly, but then not following it up.And I don't think that one should be to sensitive, and take things to personal.
I think people are a bit shy, and vary of social commitments.Tip for Americans: Every Norwegian I know disdain any form of superficiality.
( I say Americans with reference to some of American TV which can contain quite superficial hosts.
(e.g US ver.
of Scrapie Challange on Discovery) ,and some of your politician.
(Not Ron Paul, he rocks) )I worked at a gas station, with most people it's Hello.
Hello  *beep beep* Thank you.
Thank you Good bye.
Good bye.
But some like to chat.
(10-20\%)If you live in Norway as a foreigner, try joining some social activities.
Sports, churches, voluntary work e.g red cross or that type of activities or parties (vorspiel (pre-) / nachspiel (post-party) ).
Then I think you would get to know more Norwegians.
It seems to me that the only contact you have with Norwegians is through your job, and that isn't a optimal arena to get to know people.My friends and family like to invite each other home for dinner.
And do activities in our homes.
We don't hang out in pubs or cafés that much.So the rule of the game is: Get to know people in unformal social activities, after a while when you get to know people, you can invite them home for dinner.Just picture Norwegians as large Hobbits.
:)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30020790</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>cheesecake23</author>
	<datestamp>1257687960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Cold weather, hot women, health care, and common sense. If their food is any good, maybe I'll move also</p></div><p>My ex-girlfriend is Norwegian. Once when I visited her in Norway I was treated to a traditional family dinner, consisting of pig's head on a plate - one head per person. Does that answer your question?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cold weather , hot women , health care , and common sense .
If their food is any good , maybe I 'll move alsoMy ex-girlfriend is Norwegian .
Once when I visited her in Norway I was treated to a traditional family dinner , consisting of pig 's head on a plate - one head per person .
Does that answer your question ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cold weather, hot women, health care, and common sense.
If their food is any good, maybe I'll move alsoMy ex-girlfriend is Norwegian.
Once when I visited her in Norway I was treated to a traditional family dinner, consisting of pig's head on a plate - one head per person.
Does that answer your question?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30015468</id>
	<title>Re:I'm thinking about moving to Norway</title>
	<author>t\_ban</author>
	<datestamp>1257620700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>if you can cook or have an Eastern European partner</p></div><p>Myself, I very much prefer <i>having</i> my partners to <i>cooking</i> them, but I guess tastes will vary...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>if you can cook or have an Eastern European partnerMyself , I very much prefer having my partners to cooking them , but I guess tastes will vary.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>if you can cook or have an Eastern European partnerMyself, I very much prefer having my partners to cooking them, but I guess tastes will vary...
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30012788</id>
	<title>Hot women *and* weather soon enough....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257537360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you forgotten about global warming?  Soon enough Norway might be the new Costa Rica: hot weather AND women.  The food will probably be hot and spicy, too.  But will the women still be fair-skinned and blonde?  Hope you like the Latin/Caribbean/Mediterranean look.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you forgotten about global warming ?
Soon enough Norway might be the new Costa Rica : hot weather AND women .
The food will probably be hot and spicy , too .
But will the women still be fair-skinned and blonde ?
Hope you like the Latin/Caribbean/Mediterranean look .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you forgotten about global warming?
Soon enough Norway might be the new Costa Rica: hot weather AND women.
The food will probably be hot and spicy, too.
But will the women still be fair-skinned and blonde?
Hope you like the Latin/Caribbean/Mediterranean look.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_07_0256257.30015528</id>
	<title>m&#248;lje, &#248;l og linjeakevitt</title>
	<author>SgtChaireBourne</author>
	<datestamp>1257621120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There's more remote parts that have a horrid selection.</p></div><p>Speaking of horrid, what's that last item on the list below?  I don't dare try it.  It's all chopped up so as to be unrecognizable.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)

</p><ul>
  <li>biff - steak</li><li>selbiff - seal cutlets</li><li>kvalbiff - 'harpoon' special</li><li>kyllingbiff - chicken breasts</li><li>kalkunbiff - turkeybreasts</li><li>svinbiff - pork cutlets</li><li>sejbiff - saithe cutlets</li><li>sojabiff - tofu (or somesuch) cutlets</li><li>lammbiff - lamb cutlets</li><li>. . . </li><li>finnbiff - ??wtf??</li></ul></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's more remote parts that have a horrid selection.Speaking of horrid , what 's that last item on the list below ?
I do n't dare try it .
It 's all chopped up so as to be unrecognizable .
; ) biff - steakselbiff - seal cutletskvalbiff - 'harpoon ' specialkyllingbiff - chicken breastskalkunbiff - turkeybreastssvinbiff - pork cutletssejbiff - saithe cutletssojabiff - tofu ( or somesuch ) cutletslammbiff - lamb cutlets .
. .
finnbiff - ? ? wtf ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's more remote parts that have a horrid selection.Speaking of horrid, what's that last item on the list below?
I don't dare try it.
It's all chopped up so as to be unrecognizable.
;)


  biff - steakselbiff - seal cutletskvalbiff - 'harpoon' specialkyllingbiff - chicken breastskalkunbiff - turkeybreastssvinbiff - pork cutletssejbiff - saithe cutletssojabiff - tofu (or somesuch) cutletslammbiff - lamb cutlets.
. .
finnbiff - ??wtf?
?
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