<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_02_1653246</id>
	<title>DVRs Help Some TV Shows Improve Ratings</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1257188100000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>ubermiester writes <i>"After years of panicked lawsuits by content providers against TiVo and DVR technology in general, the NYTimes is reporting on <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/02/business/media/02ratings.html?\_r=1&amp;8dpc">yet another lesson for the content providers</a> to learn and then immediately forget: 'Against almost every expectation, nearly half of all people watching delayed shows are still slouching on their couches watching messages about movies, cars, and beer. According to Nielsen, 46 percent of viewers 18 to 49 years old for all four networks taken together are watching the commercials during playback, up slightly from last year.' The article also notes viewership increases 'in the range of 7 to 12 percent, with some shows having increases of more than 20 percent when DVR ratings are added. The four networks together are averaging a 10 percent increase."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>ubermiester writes " After years of panicked lawsuits by content providers against TiVo and DVR technology in general , the NYTimes is reporting on yet another lesson for the content providers to learn and then immediately forget : 'Against almost every expectation , nearly half of all people watching delayed shows are still slouching on their couches watching messages about movies , cars , and beer .
According to Nielsen , 46 percent of viewers 18 to 49 years old for all four networks taken together are watching the commercials during playback , up slightly from last year .
' The article also notes viewership increases 'in the range of 7 to 12 percent , with some shows having increases of more than 20 percent when DVR ratings are added .
The four networks together are averaging a 10 percent increase .
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<sentencetext>ubermiester writes "After years of panicked lawsuits by content providers against TiVo and DVR technology in general, the NYTimes is reporting on yet another lesson for the content providers to learn and then immediately forget: 'Against almost every expectation, nearly half of all people watching delayed shows are still slouching on their couches watching messages about movies, cars, and beer.
According to Nielsen, 46 percent of viewers 18 to 49 years old for all four networks taken together are watching the commercials during playback, up slightly from last year.
' The article also notes viewership increases 'in the range of 7 to 12 percent, with some shows having increases of more than 20 percent when DVR ratings are added.
The four networks together are averaging a 10 percent increase.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29955094</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>zeoslap</author>
	<datestamp>1257157020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why would you care if there are breaks or not when you can just hit pause whenever you feel like it?</p><p>Tivo collects data on when you pause/skip and aggregates it for use by advertisers, and has done this for years now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why would you care if there are breaks or not when you can just hit pause whenever you feel like it ? Tivo collects data on when you pause/skip and aggregates it for use by advertisers , and has done this for years now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why would you care if there are breaks or not when you can just hit pause whenever you feel like it?Tivo collects data on when you pause/skip and aggregates it for use by advertisers, and has done this for years now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953524</id>
	<title>Re:Really?</title>
	<author>Bill\_the\_Engineer</author>
	<datestamp>1257193200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Recorded shows increase viewership?</p></div></blockquote><p>Yes. Unlike music most broadcast televisions are played only once. So you either make time to be in front of the TV to watch it live, or you record it.
</p><p>Time shifting makes up for some stupid scheduling decision a TV executive may make.
</p><p>The point you were trying to make about piracy doesn't make sense in this context...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Recorded shows increase viewership ? Yes .
Unlike music most broadcast televisions are played only once .
So you either make time to be in front of the TV to watch it live , or you record it .
Time shifting makes up for some stupid scheduling decision a TV executive may make .
The point you were trying to make about piracy does n't make sense in this context.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Recorded shows increase viewership?Yes.
Unlike music most broadcast televisions are played only once.
So you either make time to be in front of the TV to watch it live, or you record it.
Time shifting makes up for some stupid scheduling decision a TV executive may make.
The point you were trying to make about piracy doesn't make sense in this context...
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29957730</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>BikeHelmet</author>
	<datestamp>1257169800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>MythTv is great but linux GPU drivers for ATI/Intel/Nvidia suck.</p></div><p>Ion + VDPAU disagree with you.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The last time I tried MythTv, I could not get hardware acceleration and GPU decoding for HD content (for mpeg2 and H264). I tried both the open source drivers and the binary blob but it just doesn't work.</p></div><p>Could you date that? I saw VDPAU working correctly a few months back.</p></div>
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<tokenext>MythTv is great but linux GPU drivers for ATI/Intel/Nvidia suck.Ion + VDPAU disagree with you.The last time I tried MythTv , I could not get hardware acceleration and GPU decoding for HD content ( for mpeg2 and H264 ) .
I tried both the open source drivers and the binary blob but it just does n't work.Could you date that ?
I saw VDPAU working correctly a few months back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>MythTv is great but linux GPU drivers for ATI/Intel/Nvidia suck.Ion + VDPAU disagree with you.The last time I tried MythTv, I could not get hardware acceleration and GPU decoding for HD content (for mpeg2 and H264).
I tried both the open source drivers and the binary blob but it just doesn't work.Could you date that?
I saw VDPAU working correctly a few months back.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953612</id>
	<title>Not to mention...</title>
	<author>cpattersonv1</author>
	<datestamp>1257193500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>One of the benefits to the networks as far as ads go... our household might actually record 2 prime-time shows at once(dual tuner). Then we might potentially accidentally watch commercials on either one while we're waiting on our better half to get back from the bathroom or the kitchen. We will also go back and watch the interesting commercials... (Not the ones about medications and so forth though... those dollars aren't helping the drug companies at all... just driving up prices.)<br> <br>Too bad there aren't that many <em>real</em> people working in the research departments for the networks... they might actually get a real idea about viewing habits... instead of approximating patterns based on computer models.</htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the benefits to the networks as far as ads go... our household might actually record 2 prime-time shows at once ( dual tuner ) .
Then we might potentially accidentally watch commercials on either one while we 're waiting on our better half to get back from the bathroom or the kitchen .
We will also go back and watch the interesting commercials... ( Not the ones about medications and so forth though... those dollars are n't helping the drug companies at all... just driving up prices .
) Too bad there are n't that many real people working in the research departments for the networks... they might actually get a real idea about viewing habits... instead of approximating patterns based on computer models .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the benefits to the networks as far as ads go... our household might actually record 2 prime-time shows at once(dual tuner).
Then we might potentially accidentally watch commercials on either one while we're waiting on our better half to get back from the bathroom or the kitchen.
We will also go back and watch the interesting commercials... (Not the ones about medications and so forth though... those dollars aren't helping the drug companies at all... just driving up prices.
) Too bad there aren't that many real people working in the research departments for the networks... they might actually get a real idea about viewing habits... instead of approximating patterns based on computer models.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29955570</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>jdoverholt</author>
	<datestamp>1257159120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hope somebody mods this up, I think you're spot on.  I do much of my TV watching while doing other things: cooking, cleaning and the like.  Most programs don't require 100\% focus, one can occasionally just listen to follow along.  If there was an auto-skip option that I could turn on, I might do it, but when I'm cooking I find it preferable not to cover the remote in deliciously seasoned animal fat just to skip a commercial.

</p><p>Likewise, if I'm running around into other rooms, it's much easier to listen around the corner than to find the remote and pause every few minutes.  When I first got a DVR (last month... I've been lagging) I tried doing this and found it more irritating than missing a few seconds of the visual.  If I miss something important, I can rewind.  I don't often find myself rewinding.

</p><p>Basically, when using TV passively like this, it defeats the purpose if you have to devote any time to it (pressing pause, fast forward, or occasionally forward-play-rewind-play-*CURSE*-rewind-play).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope somebody mods this up , I think you 're spot on .
I do much of my TV watching while doing other things : cooking , cleaning and the like .
Most programs do n't require 100 \ % focus , one can occasionally just listen to follow along .
If there was an auto-skip option that I could turn on , I might do it , but when I 'm cooking I find it preferable not to cover the remote in deliciously seasoned animal fat just to skip a commercial .
Likewise , if I 'm running around into other rooms , it 's much easier to listen around the corner than to find the remote and pause every few minutes .
When I first got a DVR ( last month... I 've been lagging ) I tried doing this and found it more irritating than missing a few seconds of the visual .
If I miss something important , I can rewind .
I do n't often find myself rewinding .
Basically , when using TV passively like this , it defeats the purpose if you have to devote any time to it ( pressing pause , fast forward , or occasionally forward-play-rewind-play- * CURSE * -rewind-play ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope somebody mods this up, I think you're spot on.
I do much of my TV watching while doing other things: cooking, cleaning and the like.
Most programs don't require 100\% focus, one can occasionally just listen to follow along.
If there was an auto-skip option that I could turn on, I might do it, but when I'm cooking I find it preferable not to cover the remote in deliciously seasoned animal fat just to skip a commercial.
Likewise, if I'm running around into other rooms, it's much easier to listen around the corner than to find the remote and pause every few minutes.
When I first got a DVR (last month... I've been lagging) I tried doing this and found it more irritating than missing a few seconds of the visual.
If I miss something important, I can rewind.
I don't often find myself rewinding.
Basically, when using TV passively like this, it defeats the purpose if you have to devote any time to it (pressing pause, fast forward, or occasionally forward-play-rewind-play-*CURSE*-rewind-play).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29955084</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257156960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>^^^ This.</p><p>I've recently jumped on the streaming media bandwagon.  I setup the scheduler in uTorrent and downloaded the newest version of TED.  Now my PC seeks out new episodes of the shows I want and downloads them during off-peak hours.  Then I've got Tversity or whatever it is acting as my UPNP server.  Each TV has it's own media receiver.</p><p>One side effect of this setup is that the TV shows I've downloaded don't have commercials.  At first, I saw this as a good thing.  But, after the first few shows, I realized I *missed* the commercials.</p><p>Some TV watching, I think of as a 100\% attention activity.  Think 'really good movies' - you don't want interruptions.  You don't want any distractions.  No talking to your wife, no running to the kitchen to check on dinner, no talking about what is happening in the movie or what you did at work that day.</p><p>But then, some other TV watching - most of the TV watching I do...it's more laid back.  The TV is on, but I'm also working on the laptop or cooking dinner or whatever.  Commercial breaks give are a welcome interruption.  It gives my girl and me a chance to make funny/witty/ remarks about the show we're watching or to talk about other stuff or to get up and check on dinner or to grab a coke, or to run to the bathroom, or to do whatever.</p><p>It sounds stupid - but I prefer the commercials for a lot of shows that I don't much care about.</p><p>The 'pause' button is an option but then you've got *zero* content on the TV.  Commercials are more entertaining than nothing.  I like them in certain situations.</p><p>
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<tokenext>^ ^ ^ This.I 've recently jumped on the streaming media bandwagon .
I setup the scheduler in uTorrent and downloaded the newest version of TED .
Now my PC seeks out new episodes of the shows I want and downloads them during off-peak hours .
Then I 've got Tversity or whatever it is acting as my UPNP server .
Each TV has it 's own media receiver.One side effect of this setup is that the TV shows I 've downloaded do n't have commercials .
At first , I saw this as a good thing .
But , after the first few shows , I realized I * missed * the commercials.Some TV watching , I think of as a 100 \ % attention activity .
Think 'really good movies ' - you do n't want interruptions .
You do n't want any distractions .
No talking to your wife , no running to the kitchen to check on dinner , no talking about what is happening in the movie or what you did at work that day.But then , some other TV watching - most of the TV watching I do...it 's more laid back .
The TV is on , but I 'm also working on the laptop or cooking dinner or whatever .
Commercial breaks give are a welcome interruption .
It gives my girl and me a chance to make funny/witty/ remarks about the show we 're watching or to talk about other stuff or to get up and check on dinner or to grab a coke , or to run to the bathroom , or to do whatever.It sounds stupid - but I prefer the commercials for a lot of shows that I do n't much care about.The 'pause ' button is an option but then you 've got * zero * content on the TV .
Commercials are more entertaining than nothing .
I like them in certain situations .
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<sentencetext>^^^ This.I've recently jumped on the streaming media bandwagon.
I setup the scheduler in uTorrent and downloaded the newest version of TED.
Now my PC seeks out new episodes of the shows I want and downloads them during off-peak hours.
Then I've got Tversity or whatever it is acting as my UPNP server.
Each TV has it's own media receiver.One side effect of this setup is that the TV shows I've downloaded don't have commercials.
At first, I saw this as a good thing.
But, after the first few shows, I realized I *missed* the commercials.Some TV watching, I think of as a 100\% attention activity.
Think 'really good movies' - you don't want interruptions.
You don't want any distractions.
No talking to your wife, no running to the kitchen to check on dinner, no talking about what is happening in the movie or what you did at work that day.But then, some other TV watching - most of the TV watching I do...it's more laid back.
The TV is on, but I'm also working on the laptop or cooking dinner or whatever.
Commercial breaks give are a welcome interruption.
It gives my girl and me a chance to make funny/witty/ remarks about the show we're watching or to talk about other stuff or to get up and check on dinner or to grab a coke, or to run to the bathroom, or to do whatever.It sounds stupid - but I prefer the commercials for a lot of shows that I don't much care about.The 'pause' button is an option but then you've got *zero* content on the TV.
Commercials are more entertaining than nothing.
I like them in certain situations.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953550</id>
	<title>Commercials</title>
	<author>ArcadeNut</author>
	<datestamp>1257193260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The only reason I wind up watching commercials is because I forgot I'm watching something on the DVR and I am allowed to fast forward through it!   I must be getting old..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The only reason I wind up watching commercials is because I forgot I 'm watching something on the DVR and I am allowed to fast forward through it !
I must be getting old. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only reason I wind up watching commercials is because I forgot I'm watching something on the DVR and I am allowed to fast forward through it!
I must be getting old..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29959196</id>
	<title>Re:Over enthusiastic conclusions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257177600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the idea that content providers are entitled to their current profit margins is also farcical.  in short:  they're just gonna have to fucking deal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the idea that content providers are entitled to their current profit margins is also farcical .
in short : they 're just gon na have to fucking deal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the idea that content providers are entitled to their current profit margins is also farcical.
in short:  they're just gonna have to fucking deal.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29955828</id>
	<title>Re:DVR increases ratings? DUH!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257160200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or, is that 10 percent increase due to unemployment?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or , is that 10 percent increase due to unemployment ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or, is that 10 percent increase due to unemployment?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29954542</id>
	<title>I need to turn in my man card</title>
	<author>ELitwin</author>
	<datestamp>1257154320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When I'm watching with my wife, she sometimes uses the commercial break to have a conversation with me about any number of things.

She'll actually say, "Don't fast forward, I want to talk for a few minutes." This often leads to the longer than 2.5 minutes discussion since I have to spend a lot of time apologizing for the inadvertent eye roll. But at no time am I actually watching the commercial. She makes me put it on mute.

That's why I try not to watch TV with her so much.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When I 'm watching with my wife , she sometimes uses the commercial break to have a conversation with me about any number of things .
She 'll actually say , " Do n't fast forward , I want to talk for a few minutes .
" This often leads to the longer than 2.5 minutes discussion since I have to spend a lot of time apologizing for the inadvertent eye roll .
But at no time am I actually watching the commercial .
She makes me put it on mute .
That 's why I try not to watch TV with her so much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I'm watching with my wife, she sometimes uses the commercial break to have a conversation with me about any number of things.
She'll actually say, "Don't fast forward, I want to talk for a few minutes.
" This often leads to the longer than 2.5 minutes discussion since I have to spend a lot of time apologizing for the inadvertent eye roll.
But at no time am I actually watching the commercial.
She makes me put it on mute.
That's why I try not to watch TV with her so much.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29958330</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>jwhitener</author>
	<datestamp>1257172800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hello Sponsor!</p><p>If you have 5 minutes of ads for every 10 minutes of content, I won't watch any of them.<br>If you have one 30 second add, I won't bother to skip it.  I might glance at a magazine or grab a beer, but I won't skip it.<br>If you have one 15 second add, chances are, I'll watch it.  Not enough time to do much else.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hello Sponsor ! If you have 5 minutes of ads for every 10 minutes of content , I wo n't watch any of them.If you have one 30 second add , I wo n't bother to skip it .
I might glance at a magazine or grab a beer , but I wo n't skip it.If you have one 15 second add , chances are , I 'll watch it .
Not enough time to do much else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hello Sponsor!If you have 5 minutes of ads for every 10 minutes of content, I won't watch any of them.If you have one 30 second add, I won't bother to skip it.
I might glance at a magazine or grab a beer, but I won't skip it.If you have one 15 second add, chances are, I'll watch it.
Not enough time to do much else.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953892</id>
	<title>Re:Over enthusiastic conclusions</title>
	<author>BryanL</author>
	<datestamp>1257194700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Except that these were people that probably would not have watched the show to begin with because they had more important things to do (or to watch another show). So if a show gets 20\% more viewers with those using DVRs (using your numbers), and almost half of them watch the commercials, that is almost 110\% of ad viewership.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Except that these were people that probably would not have watched the show to begin with because they had more important things to do ( or to watch another show ) .
So if a show gets 20 \ % more viewers with those using DVRs ( using your numbers ) , and almost half of them watch the commercials , that is almost 110 \ % of ad viewership .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except that these were people that probably would not have watched the show to begin with because they had more important things to do (or to watch another show).
So if a show gets 20\% more viewers with those using DVRs (using your numbers), and almost half of them watch the commercials, that is almost 110\% of ad viewership.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953298</id>
	<title>Define "humor"</title>
	<author>swanzilla</author>
	<datestamp>1257192240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>FTA:<p><div class="quote"><p>When NBC added the &ldquo;The Jay Leno Show&rdquo; at 10 each weeknight, it boasted that the show would be &ldquo;DVR proof,&rdquo; meaning that because the humor was topical, viewers were more likely to watch it live, avoiding much of the commercial-skipping that was expected to plague recorded shows.</p></div><p>I think the only truly funny thing here is that NBC considers Leno to be humorous.  His face looks like a banana...that is sort of funny, I guess.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>FTA : When NBC added the    The Jay Leno Show    at 10 each weeknight , it boasted that the show would be    DVR proof ,    meaning that because the humor was topical , viewers were more likely to watch it live , avoiding much of the commercial-skipping that was expected to plague recorded shows.I think the only truly funny thing here is that NBC considers Leno to be humorous .
His face looks like a banana...that is sort of funny , I guess .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FTA:When NBC added the “The Jay Leno Show” at 10 each weeknight, it boasted that the show would be “DVR proof,” meaning that because the humor was topical, viewers were more likely to watch it live, avoiding much of the commercial-skipping that was expected to plague recorded shows.I think the only truly funny thing here is that NBC considers Leno to be humorous.
His face looks like a banana...that is sort of funny, I guess.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953474</id>
	<title>Re:Really?</title>
	<author>Clipless</author>
	<datestamp>1257193020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not as long as they are making money</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not as long as they are making money</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not as long as they are making money</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29954370</id>
	<title>Re:television was supposed to kill the cinema hous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257153540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>then the vcr was supposed to kill the cinema house</p><p>now the internet is supposed to kill the cinema house</p></div><p>Yes, but we all know that video killed the radio star<br>And I shot the sheriff but I did not shoot the deputy</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>then the vcr was supposed to kill the cinema housenow the internet is supposed to kill the cinema houseYes , but we all know that video killed the radio starAnd I shot the sheriff but I did not shoot the deputy</tokentext>
<sentencetext>then the vcr was supposed to kill the cinema housenow the internet is supposed to kill the cinema houseYes, but we all know that video killed the radio starAnd I shot the sheriff but I did not shoot the deputy
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29954384</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>Maximum Prophet</author>
	<datestamp>1257153600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Tivo has an opt-in were you can choose have them see your viewing habits.  The data is aggregated so non-Tivo companies can't see individual data.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Tivo has an opt-in were you can choose have them see your viewing habits .
The data is aggregated so non-Tivo companies ca n't see individual data .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tivo has an opt-in were you can choose have them see your viewing habits.
The data is aggregated so non-Tivo companies can't see individual data.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29955642</id>
	<title>Re:Define "humor"</title>
	<author>stewbacca</author>
	<datestamp>1257159540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, as if Jon Stewart or Steven Colbert cease to be funny the Thursday after Wednesday's show?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , as if Jon Stewart or Steven Colbert cease to be funny the Thursday after Wednesday 's show ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, as if Jon Stewart or Steven Colbert cease to be funny the Thursday after Wednesday's show?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29955274</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>JATMON</author>
	<datestamp>1257157680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm curious as to how these statistics were collected.  Do the Nielsen people have technology installed in the DVRs now?  I'd be surprised if our DVRs aren't being data-mined yet.</p></div><p>I actually one of the Nielsen families this year, my wife signed us up and we were selected. I was actually surprised that it was very low tech. You are given a booklet for each TV in your house. You have to hand write in the information. There is a column to fill out if you watch something that was DVR'd. I used that column for almost everything I watched. Since each row is a 15 minute time block, if you took more then 45 minutes to watch an hour long show, you would have either have to shorten the time to 45 minutes or say that it took 60 minutes to watch the show. I assume that if you lengthened it to 60, they said you watched the adds. On 30 minute shows, most people probable did what I did and just marked down that it took 30 minutes. Every couple shows, I would have a 15 minute show so that the time would match up again. on top of all that, there is no way to track the number of times that I paused the shows, to do something else (get a drink, eat, use the bathroom, take care of the kids, etc) So, I would not trust any of the data about commercials at all.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm curious as to how these statistics were collected .
Do the Nielsen people have technology installed in the DVRs now ?
I 'd be surprised if our DVRs are n't being data-mined yet.I actually one of the Nielsen families this year , my wife signed us up and we were selected .
I was actually surprised that it was very low tech .
You are given a booklet for each TV in your house .
You have to hand write in the information .
There is a column to fill out if you watch something that was DVR 'd .
I used that column for almost everything I watched .
Since each row is a 15 minute time block , if you took more then 45 minutes to watch an hour long show , you would have either have to shorten the time to 45 minutes or say that it took 60 minutes to watch the show .
I assume that if you lengthened it to 60 , they said you watched the adds .
On 30 minute shows , most people probable did what I did and just marked down that it took 30 minutes .
Every couple shows , I would have a 15 minute show so that the time would match up again .
on top of all that , there is no way to track the number of times that I paused the shows , to do something else ( get a drink , eat , use the bathroom , take care of the kids , etc ) So , I would not trust any of the data about commercials at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm curious as to how these statistics were collected.
Do the Nielsen people have technology installed in the DVRs now?
I'd be surprised if our DVRs aren't being data-mined yet.I actually one of the Nielsen families this year, my wife signed us up and we were selected.
I was actually surprised that it was very low tech.
You are given a booklet for each TV in your house.
You have to hand write in the information.
There is a column to fill out if you watch something that was DVR'd.
I used that column for almost everything I watched.
Since each row is a 15 minute time block, if you took more then 45 minutes to watch an hour long show, you would have either have to shorten the time to 45 minutes or say that it took 60 minutes to watch the show.
I assume that if you lengthened it to 60, they said you watched the adds.
On 30 minute shows, most people probable did what I did and just marked down that it took 30 minutes.
Every couple shows, I would have a 15 minute show so that the time would match up again.
on top of all that, there is no way to track the number of times that I paused the shows, to do something else (get a drink, eat, use the bathroom, take care of the kids, etc) So, I would not trust any of the data about commercials at all.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29974392</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>BroncoInCalifornia</author>
	<datestamp>1257276060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I installed Mythbuntu 9.04 on an inexpensive Acer box with an nVidia GeForce 8200.  This seems to be the minimum hardware to get 1080 accelerated graphics.   The accelerated graphics just worked with no muss no fuss.  The motion is smooth.  I am happy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I installed Mythbuntu 9.04 on an inexpensive Acer box with an nVidia GeForce 8200 .
This seems to be the minimum hardware to get 1080 accelerated graphics .
The accelerated graphics just worked with no muss no fuss .
The motion is smooth .
I am happy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I installed Mythbuntu 9.04 on an inexpensive Acer box with an nVidia GeForce 8200.
This seems to be the minimum hardware to get 1080 accelerated graphics.
The accelerated graphics just worked with no muss no fuss.
The motion is smooth.
I am happy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953572</id>
	<title>Re:watching commercials</title>
	<author>Absolut187</author>
	<datestamp>1257193380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hi.  I'm your pause button.  Have we met?  I look like two parallel vertical lines, and sometimes I share a home with your play button.  Maybe we met once and you forgot about me..  I'd love to hear from you!  K, bye.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi .
I 'm your pause button .
Have we met ?
I look like two parallel vertical lines , and sometimes I share a home with your play button .
Maybe we met once and you forgot about me.. I 'd love to hear from you !
K , bye .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi.
I'm your pause button.
Have we met?
I look like two parallel vertical lines, and sometimes I share a home with your play button.
Maybe we met once and you forgot about me..  I'd love to hear from you!
K, bye.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29954564</id>
	<title>Re:Really?</title>
	<author>MBCook</author>
	<datestamp>1257154380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That was the thing that confused me in the article. I skimmed it, and it looked like a media researcher was saying "When people aren't forced to watch at 9:00 PM, more people watch. It's counter-intuitive, but the data shows it's real." I saw that and I'm thinking... huh?
</p><p>Let's take the recent Fox show Sit Down, Shut up. I've been enjoying it, and the later episodes got better. It ran out it's run in the last few weeks on Saturdays at 2 AM or such. I was able to keep watching it.
</p><p>When shows are available to watch at additional times, more people watch them. It's a great boon to Discovery that they re-air shows 3/6 hours later. I know it's due to east coast/west coast and lack of programming, but it makes it so easy to watch the show. When I've got something on at 7:00, I don't have to worry about missing MythBusters, I know I can watch it at 10:00. My Tivo can record the midnight new episode of Stargate: The Re-gatening because it's there. If it was only aired at 8:00, I wouldn't be able to watch it because I like Law &amp; Order: SVU more.
</p><p>Shows that <i>don't</i> do this, usually network shows, I'm more likely to stop watching. If it's hard for me to get a copy/watch the show. I won't watch.
</p><p>Counter-intuitive, but my data shows it!
</p><p>It's like that recent MPAA thing about Star Trek piracy. If it was available for rental day one, how many of those people would have pirated it? How many people were basically time/placeshifiting the movie the only way they could?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That was the thing that confused me in the article .
I skimmed it , and it looked like a media researcher was saying " When people are n't forced to watch at 9 : 00 PM , more people watch .
It 's counter-intuitive , but the data shows it 's real .
" I saw that and I 'm thinking... huh ? Let 's take the recent Fox show Sit Down , Shut up .
I 've been enjoying it , and the later episodes got better .
It ran out it 's run in the last few weeks on Saturdays at 2 AM or such .
I was able to keep watching it .
When shows are available to watch at additional times , more people watch them .
It 's a great boon to Discovery that they re-air shows 3/6 hours later .
I know it 's due to east coast/west coast and lack of programming , but it makes it so easy to watch the show .
When I 've got something on at 7 : 00 , I do n't have to worry about missing MythBusters , I know I can watch it at 10 : 00 .
My Tivo can record the midnight new episode of Stargate : The Re-gatening because it 's there .
If it was only aired at 8 : 00 , I would n't be able to watch it because I like Law &amp; Order : SVU more .
Shows that do n't do this , usually network shows , I 'm more likely to stop watching .
If it 's hard for me to get a copy/watch the show .
I wo n't watch .
Counter-intuitive , but my data shows it !
It 's like that recent MPAA thing about Star Trek piracy .
If it was available for rental day one , how many of those people would have pirated it ?
How many people were basically time/placeshifiting the movie the only way they could ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That was the thing that confused me in the article.
I skimmed it, and it looked like a media researcher was saying "When people aren't forced to watch at 9:00 PM, more people watch.
It's counter-intuitive, but the data shows it's real.
" I saw that and I'm thinking... huh?
Let's take the recent Fox show Sit Down, Shut up.
I've been enjoying it, and the later episodes got better.
It ran out it's run in the last few weeks on Saturdays at 2 AM or such.
I was able to keep watching it.
When shows are available to watch at additional times, more people watch them.
It's a great boon to Discovery that they re-air shows 3/6 hours later.
I know it's due to east coast/west coast and lack of programming, but it makes it so easy to watch the show.
When I've got something on at 7:00, I don't have to worry about missing MythBusters, I know I can watch it at 10:00.
My Tivo can record the midnight new episode of Stargate: The Re-gatening because it's there.
If it was only aired at 8:00, I wouldn't be able to watch it because I like Law &amp; Order: SVU more.
Shows that don't do this, usually network shows, I'm more likely to stop watching.
If it's hard for me to get a copy/watch the show.
I won't watch.
Counter-intuitive, but my data shows it!
It's like that recent MPAA thing about Star Trek piracy.
If it was available for rental day one, how many of those people would have pirated it?
How many people were basically time/placeshifiting the movie the only way they could?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953220</id>
	<title>That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257192000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not only is it trivial to skip commercials for a shifted show, but it can do it automatically.</p><p>I have also adjusted my life to only watching what I have recorded.  I'm not sure when the last time I turned on 'Live TV' was.  I have taken to keeping the last/freshest five episodes from a number of programs I like to watch, and I select from between them.  Myth automatically deletes the old ones, and I find five or so is plenty for my families needs.</p><p>That being said, even seeing a commercial these days just feels odd to me, let alone watching it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not only is it trivial to skip commercials for a shifted show , but it can do it automatically.I have also adjusted my life to only watching what I have recorded .
I 'm not sure when the last time I turned on 'Live TV ' was .
I have taken to keeping the last/freshest five episodes from a number of programs I like to watch , and I select from between them .
Myth automatically deletes the old ones , and I find five or so is plenty for my families needs.That being said , even seeing a commercial these days just feels odd to me , let alone watching it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not only is it trivial to skip commercials for a shifted show, but it can do it automatically.I have also adjusted my life to only watching what I have recorded.
I'm not sure when the last time I turned on 'Live TV' was.
I have taken to keeping the last/freshest five episodes from a number of programs I like to watch, and I select from between them.
Myth automatically deletes the old ones, and I find five or so is plenty for my families needs.That being said, even seeing a commercial these days just feels odd to me, let alone watching it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29954330</id>
	<title>Re:but are they really?</title>
	<author>dirk</author>
	<datestamp>1257153360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even if this is the case, they are probably at least getting some of the information.  For example, they still see/hear the first part of the first ad as they get up.  Depending on how far they go, they also still here the ad as they get their drink and then return in time to see at least part of the last ad before the show restarts.  With skipping over, you don't hear anything at all, if they play the ads, they may at least hear part of the ads.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if this is the case , they are probably at least getting some of the information .
For example , they still see/hear the first part of the first ad as they get up .
Depending on how far they go , they also still here the ad as they get their drink and then return in time to see at least part of the last ad before the show restarts .
With skipping over , you do n't hear anything at all , if they play the ads , they may at least hear part of the ads .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if this is the case, they are probably at least getting some of the information.
For example, they still see/hear the first part of the first ad as they get up.
Depending on how far they go, they also still here the ad as they get their drink and then return in time to see at least part of the last ad before the show restarts.
With skipping over, you don't hear anything at all, if they play the ads, they may at least hear part of the ads.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953338</id>
	<title>That's the BAD economy!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257192360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The same thing happened during the 1970s.  That's how shows like <i>Barreta</i> and <i>The Dukes Of Hazard</i> stayed on the air so long.<p>
Back then, when TV was mostly over the air and free I watched commercials.  Now that I <b>pay</b> for TV I won't tolerate commercials.  I DVR any show I watch that has commercials and watch it at a later date when I can skim through the commercials.  It is a rare commercial that I watch.  I stop only for those that seem interesting, i.e. have pretty chicks featured prominently!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The same thing happened during the 1970s .
That 's how shows like Barreta and The Dukes Of Hazard stayed on the air so long .
Back then , when TV was mostly over the air and free I watched commercials .
Now that I pay for TV I wo n't tolerate commercials .
I DVR any show I watch that has commercials and watch it at a later date when I can skim through the commercials .
It is a rare commercial that I watch .
I stop only for those that seem interesting , i.e .
have pretty chicks featured prominently !
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The same thing happened during the 1970s.
That's how shows like Barreta and The Dukes Of Hazard stayed on the air so long.
Back then, when TV was mostly over the air and free I watched commercials.
Now that I pay for TV I won't tolerate commercials.
I DVR any show I watch that has commercials and watch it at a later date when I can skim through the commercials.
It is a rare commercial that I watch.
I stop only for those that seem interesting, i.e.
have pretty chicks featured prominently!
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29954036</id>
	<title>We're trained...</title>
	<author>FellowConspirator</author>
	<datestamp>1257195360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... to get up during the commercial break and got to the bathroom, get a snack, or feed the pets. My generation grew up with commercials that we couldn't skip over, so we've trained ourselves to take them as a cue for intermission. In fact, advertising has become so common an obtrusive that we've been trained to simply block them out altogether. More than half the people I know can sit through a commercial break staring at the screen and not be able to tell you what products were advertised in that break.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... to get up during the commercial break and got to the bathroom , get a snack , or feed the pets .
My generation grew up with commercials that we could n't skip over , so we 've trained ourselves to take them as a cue for intermission .
In fact , advertising has become so common an obtrusive that we 've been trained to simply block them out altogether .
More than half the people I know can sit through a commercial break staring at the screen and not be able to tell you what products were advertised in that break .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... to get up during the commercial break and got to the bathroom, get a snack, or feed the pets.
My generation grew up with commercials that we couldn't skip over, so we've trained ourselves to take them as a cue for intermission.
In fact, advertising has become so common an obtrusive that we've been trained to simply block them out altogether.
More than half the people I know can sit through a commercial break staring at the screen and not be able to tell you what products were advertised in that break.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953648</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>vivek7006</author>
	<datestamp>1257193680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>MythTv is great but linux GPU drivers for ATI/Intel/Nvidia suck. The last time I tried MythTv, I could not get hardware acceleration and GPU decoding for HD content (for mpeg2 and H264). I tried both the open source drivers and the binary blob but it just doesn't work. On windows, Nvidia has purevideo and ATI has avivo which work like charm. Play full-HD videos and CPU usage barely climbs up since GPU is doing all the hardwork, but on linux even my penryn based core2duo CPU started crapping out when playing HD content. I ultimately settled with Windows media center which coupled with DVRMStoolbox provides automatic commercial detection and skipping. It work for me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>MythTv is great but linux GPU drivers for ATI/Intel/Nvidia suck .
The last time I tried MythTv , I could not get hardware acceleration and GPU decoding for HD content ( for mpeg2 and H264 ) .
I tried both the open source drivers and the binary blob but it just does n't work .
On windows , Nvidia has purevideo and ATI has avivo which work like charm .
Play full-HD videos and CPU usage barely climbs up since GPU is doing all the hardwork , but on linux even my penryn based core2duo CPU started crapping out when playing HD content .
I ultimately settled with Windows media center which coupled with DVRMStoolbox provides automatic commercial detection and skipping .
It work for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>MythTv is great but linux GPU drivers for ATI/Intel/Nvidia suck.
The last time I tried MythTv, I could not get hardware acceleration and GPU decoding for HD content (for mpeg2 and H264).
I tried both the open source drivers and the binary blob but it just doesn't work.
On windows, Nvidia has purevideo and ATI has avivo which work like charm.
Play full-HD videos and CPU usage barely climbs up since GPU is doing all the hardwork, but on linux even my penryn based core2duo CPU started crapping out when playing HD content.
I ultimately settled with Windows media center which coupled with DVRMStoolbox provides automatic commercial detection and skipping.
It work for me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953544</id>
	<title>The first time, I watch it.</title>
	<author>crovira</author>
	<datestamp>1257193260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>After that, they can save their money.</p><p>I have got a memory. I don't need to see it umpteen more times.</p><p>They don't know when to quit, that 's their problem.</p><p>They're cutting into my show time, that's my problem and I skip the ads because I can.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>After that , they can save their money.I have got a memory .
I do n't need to see it umpteen more times.They do n't know when to quit , that 's their problem.They 're cutting into my show time , that 's my problem and I skip the ads because I can .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After that, they can save their money.I have got a memory.
I don't need to see it umpteen more times.They don't know when to quit, that 's their problem.They're cutting into my show time, that's my problem and I skip the ads because I can.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953266</id>
	<title>Really?</title>
	<author>Mr.Fork</author>
	<datestamp>1257192120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Recorded shows increase viewership?  Like pirated movies increase movie ticket sales? Like pirated music increases digital music sales?<br> <br>Question is, will the media giants really wake up and stop all this lawsuit nonsense.  Will RIAA, MPAA and other copyright trolls really give up the ghost and embrace the digital age and realise the potential of the internet?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Recorded shows increase viewership ?
Like pirated movies increase movie ticket sales ?
Like pirated music increases digital music sales ?
Question is , will the media giants really wake up and stop all this lawsuit nonsense .
Will RIAA , MPAA and other copyright trolls really give up the ghost and embrace the digital age and realise the potential of the internet ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Recorded shows increase viewership?
Like pirated movies increase movie ticket sales?
Like pirated music increases digital music sales?
Question is, will the media giants really wake up and stop all this lawsuit nonsense.
Will RIAA, MPAA and other copyright trolls really give up the ghost and embrace the digital age and realise the potential of the internet?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953764</id>
	<title>For some reason this article</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257194160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>makes me want to TIVO a show about the MPAA sposored by RIAA.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>makes me want to TIVO a show about the MPAA sposored by RIAA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>makes me want to TIVO a show about the MPAA sposored by RIAA.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953570</id>
	<title>Re:watching commercials</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257193380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Commercials give me a break to go pee, make a phone call, or grab another brew. I still need that break when I'm watching a DVR'd show. I'm not actually watching the commercials.</p></div><p>And you can't hit the pause button why?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Commercials give me a break to go pee , make a phone call , or grab another brew .
I still need that break when I 'm watching a DVR 'd show .
I 'm not actually watching the commercials.And you ca n't hit the pause button why ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Commercials give me a break to go pee, make a phone call, or grab another brew.
I still need that break when I'm watching a DVR'd show.
I'm not actually watching the commercials.And you can't hit the pause button why?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29954022</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>eqisow</author>
	<datestamp>1257195300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Linux Nvidia drivers support <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">GPU accelerated playback</a> [wikipedia.org] and AMD/ATI <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Video\_Bitstream\_Acceleration" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">isn't far behind</a> [wikipedia.org]. AMD's solution is behind primarily because it lacks software support. However, mplayer (and I assume other players) support VDPAU. On the other hand, I found that VDPAU wasn't compiled into the Fedora version of mplayer, requiring me to compile it myself.

</p><p>At any rate, the point is that the *drivers* are fine in this area. If something is lacking it's probably either your distro or MythTV's software support. (I don't know enough about MythTV to say if it supports VDPAU or not, maybe somebody else can clarify.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux Nvidia drivers support GPU accelerated playback [ wikipedia.org ] and AMD/ATI is n't far behind [ wikipedia.org ] .
AMD 's solution is behind primarily because it lacks software support .
However , mplayer ( and I assume other players ) support VDPAU .
On the other hand , I found that VDPAU was n't compiled into the Fedora version of mplayer , requiring me to compile it myself .
At any rate , the point is that the * drivers * are fine in this area .
If something is lacking it 's probably either your distro or MythTV 's software support .
( I do n't know enough about MythTV to say if it supports VDPAU or not , maybe somebody else can clarify .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux Nvidia drivers support GPU accelerated playback [wikipedia.org] and AMD/ATI isn't far behind [wikipedia.org].
AMD's solution is behind primarily because it lacks software support.
However, mplayer (and I assume other players) support VDPAU.
On the other hand, I found that VDPAU wasn't compiled into the Fedora version of mplayer, requiring me to compile it myself.
At any rate, the point is that the *drivers* are fine in this area.
If something is lacking it's probably either your distro or MythTV's software support.
(I don't know enough about MythTV to say if it supports VDPAU or not, maybe somebody else can clarify.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29954362</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257153540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The development version of MythTV does infact support VDPAU and pretty much did so the moment it was available.</p><p>That version is nearing release.</p><p>Although there were PPA Ubuntu packages for the bleeding edge VDPAU drivers as well as the dev version of MythTV.</p><p>So you could have run the dev version of MythTV without much effort (if any) really.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The development version of MythTV does infact support VDPAU and pretty much did so the moment it was available.That version is nearing release.Although there were PPA Ubuntu packages for the bleeding edge VDPAU drivers as well as the dev version of MythTV.So you could have run the dev version of MythTV without much effort ( if any ) really .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The development version of MythTV does infact support VDPAU and pretty much did so the moment it was available.That version is nearing release.Although there were PPA Ubuntu packages for the bleeding edge VDPAU drivers as well as the dev version of MythTV.So you could have run the dev version of MythTV without much effort (if any) really.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29954260</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>schon</author>
	<datestamp>1257153120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I think the point of the article</p></div><p>I'm sorry, you've lost me... you expect people to <i>read</i> the article?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the point of the articleI 'm sorry , you 've lost me... you expect people to read the article ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the point of the articleI'm sorry, you've lost me... you expect people to read the article?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953436</id>
	<title>Over enthusiastic conclusions</title>
	<author>nick\_davison</author>
	<datestamp>1257192840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"After years of panicked lawsuits against TiVo and DVR technology in general, the NYTimes is reporting on yet another lesson for content providers to learn and then immediately forget"</p><p>"According to Nielsen, 46 percent of viewers 18 to 49 years old for all four networks taken together are watching the commercials during playback, up slightly from last year"</p><p>"some shows having increases of more than 20 percent when DVR ratings are added"</p></div><p>So, the ad value drops by 54\%... But up to 20\% more viewers are added... Giving, at best, 55.2\% of your former ad viewership.</p><p>Yes, 55.2\% of your old value is SO much better than the former 100\%.</p><p>Drawing the conclusion that content providers were wrong to freak out about DVRs is farcical. Their product is still worth at least 45\% less to advertisers. Yes, 45\% less is better than 54\% less, that 20\% bump from DVRs hooking more viewers is nice and all... But, seriously, it's like saying "Hey, we burned down half your home but, good news, we totally discovered a small basement you didn't know about in the charred wreckage. Aren't you grateful we torched your home?!"</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" After years of panicked lawsuits against TiVo and DVR technology in general , the NYTimes is reporting on yet another lesson for content providers to learn and then immediately forget " " According to Nielsen , 46 percent of viewers 18 to 49 years old for all four networks taken together are watching the commercials during playback , up slightly from last year " " some shows having increases of more than 20 percent when DVR ratings are added " So , the ad value drops by 54 \ % ... But up to 20 \ % more viewers are added... Giving , at best , 55.2 \ % of your former ad viewership.Yes , 55.2 \ % of your old value is SO much better than the former 100 \ % .Drawing the conclusion that content providers were wrong to freak out about DVRs is farcical .
Their product is still worth at least 45 \ % less to advertisers .
Yes , 45 \ % less is better than 54 \ % less , that 20 \ % bump from DVRs hooking more viewers is nice and all... But , seriously , it 's like saying " Hey , we burned down half your home but , good news , we totally discovered a small basement you did n't know about in the charred wreckage .
Are n't you grateful we torched your home ? !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"After years of panicked lawsuits against TiVo and DVR technology in general, the NYTimes is reporting on yet another lesson for content providers to learn and then immediately forget""According to Nielsen, 46 percent of viewers 18 to 49 years old for all four networks taken together are watching the commercials during playback, up slightly from last year""some shows having increases of more than 20 percent when DVR ratings are added"So, the ad value drops by 54\%... But up to 20\% more viewers are added... Giving, at best, 55.2\% of your former ad viewership.Yes, 55.2\% of your old value is SO much better than the former 100\%.Drawing the conclusion that content providers were wrong to freak out about DVRs is farcical.
Their product is still worth at least 45\% less to advertisers.
Yes, 45\% less is better than 54\% less, that 20\% bump from DVRs hooking more viewers is nice and all... But, seriously, it's like saying "Hey, we burned down half your home but, good news, we totally discovered a small basement you didn't know about in the charred wreckage.
Aren't you grateful we torched your home?!
"
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29956948</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257166380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is quite true. Many allegedly highly hyped movies and other parts of popular culture such as the latest micro infomercials (you know the ads formatted like an infomercial but only 30-60 seconds), and other things. This is because most of the content I watch online is commerical-free. In the rare cases I watch with commercials, it is usually at abc.com or hulu, so i only see the 5 or so ads each of those sites show that day (again, and again, and again).</p><p>I generally learn about new television series by either noticing them on the sites I use, or from those obnoxious mini ads that overlap the show.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is quite true .
Many allegedly highly hyped movies and other parts of popular culture such as the latest micro infomercials ( you know the ads formatted like an infomercial but only 30-60 seconds ) , and other things .
This is because most of the content I watch online is commerical-free .
In the rare cases I watch with commercials , it is usually at abc.com or hulu , so i only see the 5 or so ads each of those sites show that day ( again , and again , and again ) .I generally learn about new television series by either noticing them on the sites I use , or from those obnoxious mini ads that overlap the show .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is quite true.
Many allegedly highly hyped movies and other parts of popular culture such as the latest micro infomercials (you know the ads formatted like an infomercial but only 30-60 seconds), and other things.
This is because most of the content I watch online is commerical-free.
In the rare cases I watch with commercials, it is usually at abc.com or hulu, so i only see the 5 or so ads each of those sites show that day (again, and again, and again).I generally learn about new television series by either noticing them on the sites I use, or from those obnoxious mini ads that overlap the show.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953458</id>
	<title>Irrelevant</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257192900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Based on those numbers, (viewership up around 10\% with 54\% of DVR watchers skipping commercials) looks to me like the number of people watching commercials would go down.  Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't get how this is different then what the content providers worry about.  Programming viewership goes up and commercial viewership goes down.  If I was a major network, I wouldn't care how many people watched my show, but how many people watched the commercials.  You know, the part that actually makes money for them.  Don't get me wrong, I'm all for on-demand, over the internet, time-shifted whatever.  But claiming that these results fly in the face of what was expected seems a tad over blown.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Based on those numbers , ( viewership up around 10 \ % with 54 \ % of DVR watchers skipping commercials ) looks to me like the number of people watching commercials would go down .
Maybe I 'm missing something , but I do n't get how this is different then what the content providers worry about .
Programming viewership goes up and commercial viewership goes down .
If I was a major network , I would n't care how many people watched my show , but how many people watched the commercials .
You know , the part that actually makes money for them .
Do n't get me wrong , I 'm all for on-demand , over the internet , time-shifted whatever .
But claiming that these results fly in the face of what was expected seems a tad over blown .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Based on those numbers, (viewership up around 10\% with 54\% of DVR watchers skipping commercials) looks to me like the number of people watching commercials would go down.
Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't get how this is different then what the content providers worry about.
Programming viewership goes up and commercial viewership goes down.
If I was a major network, I wouldn't care how many people watched my show, but how many people watched the commercials.
You know, the part that actually makes money for them.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for on-demand, over the internet, time-shifted whatever.
But claiming that these results fly in the face of what was expected seems a tad over blown.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29954660</id>
	<title>ok</title>
	<author>nomadic</author>
	<datestamp>1257154920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"After years of panicked lawsuits against TiVo and DVR technology in general, the NYTimes is reporting on yet another lesson for content providers to learn and then immediately forget: 'Against almost every expectation, nearly half of all people watching delayed shows are still slouching on their couches watching messages about movies, cars and beer.</i>
<br>
<br>
In other words, advertisers shouldn't have worried because they're only be losing a little more than HALF their audience?  And you think this DISPROVES their concerns?  Ugh, slashlogic at work...</htmltext>
<tokenext>" After years of panicked lawsuits against TiVo and DVR technology in general , the NYTimes is reporting on yet another lesson for content providers to learn and then immediately forget : 'Against almost every expectation , nearly half of all people watching delayed shows are still slouching on their couches watching messages about movies , cars and beer .
In other words , advertisers should n't have worried because they 're only be losing a little more than HALF their audience ?
And you think this DISPROVES their concerns ?
Ugh , slashlogic at work.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"After years of panicked lawsuits against TiVo and DVR technology in general, the NYTimes is reporting on yet another lesson for content providers to learn and then immediately forget: 'Against almost every expectation, nearly half of all people watching delayed shows are still slouching on their couches watching messages about movies, cars and beer.
In other words, advertisers shouldn't have worried because they're only be losing a little more than HALF their audience?
And you think this DISPROVES their concerns?
Ugh, slashlogic at work...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953888</id>
	<title>DVR increases ratings? DUH!</title>
	<author>businessnerd</author>
	<datestamp>1257194700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They say that DVRs have increased ratings for shows as if it's surprising.  Isn't this the whole point of a DVR though?  You record it because you would not have otherwise been able to watch the show in its regularly scheduled time slot.  So instead of just plain missing the show, you record it and watch it later.  Instead of having to pick between two shows where one will get watched and the other will get missed, you record them both, and they both get watched.  In the latter, the DVR has increased your potential audience.  I'm a little surprised about the commerical watching though.  As a MythTV user, I skip commercials altogether without the need for any user interaction.  However, in cases where the commercials are not skipped (like if I start watching a show fifteen minutes into the broadcast), it's about a 60/40 split as to whether I'll bother fast forwarding.  Someimes I'm really that lazy where lifting my arm to pick up the remote seems like too much effort.  Other times it's the perfect bathroom break.  Even though MythTV skips my commercials and could potentially pause for a break whenever I want, I tend to do it when there is a commercial simply because the flow of the show dictates a pause for commercial.  It's kind of weird to pause in the middle of a conversation and come back a few minutes later.  It totally messes with the flow.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They say that DVRs have increased ratings for shows as if it 's surprising .
Is n't this the whole point of a DVR though ?
You record it because you would not have otherwise been able to watch the show in its regularly scheduled time slot .
So instead of just plain missing the show , you record it and watch it later .
Instead of having to pick between two shows where one will get watched and the other will get missed , you record them both , and they both get watched .
In the latter , the DVR has increased your potential audience .
I 'm a little surprised about the commerical watching though .
As a MythTV user , I skip commercials altogether without the need for any user interaction .
However , in cases where the commercials are not skipped ( like if I start watching a show fifteen minutes into the broadcast ) , it 's about a 60/40 split as to whether I 'll bother fast forwarding .
Someimes I 'm really that lazy where lifting my arm to pick up the remote seems like too much effort .
Other times it 's the perfect bathroom break .
Even though MythTV skips my commercials and could potentially pause for a break whenever I want , I tend to do it when there is a commercial simply because the flow of the show dictates a pause for commercial .
It 's kind of weird to pause in the middle of a conversation and come back a few minutes later .
It totally messes with the flow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They say that DVRs have increased ratings for shows as if it's surprising.
Isn't this the whole point of a DVR though?
You record it because you would not have otherwise been able to watch the show in its regularly scheduled time slot.
So instead of just plain missing the show, you record it and watch it later.
Instead of having to pick between two shows where one will get watched and the other will get missed, you record them both, and they both get watched.
In the latter, the DVR has increased your potential audience.
I'm a little surprised about the commerical watching though.
As a MythTV user, I skip commercials altogether without the need for any user interaction.
However, in cases where the commercials are not skipped (like if I start watching a show fifteen minutes into the broadcast), it's about a 60/40 split as to whether I'll bother fast forwarding.
Someimes I'm really that lazy where lifting my arm to pick up the remote seems like too much effort.
Other times it's the perfect bathroom break.
Even though MythTV skips my commercials and could potentially pause for a break whenever I want, I tend to do it when there is a commercial simply because the flow of the show dictates a pause for commercial.
It's kind of weird to pause in the middle of a conversation and come back a few minutes later.
It totally messes with the flow.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29957580</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>MojoRilla</author>
	<datestamp>1257169260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You weren't a real Nielsen family.  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nielsen\_ratings" title="wikipedia.org">Nielsen</a> [wikipedia.org] uses both diarys and electronic data collection.  As it says on Wikipedia, "electronic metering technology is the heart of the Nielsen ratings process."  The diaries are there to sample more markets, and as a double check.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You were n't a real Nielsen family .
Nielsen [ wikipedia.org ] uses both diarys and electronic data collection .
As it says on Wikipedia , " electronic metering technology is the heart of the Nielsen ratings process .
" The diaries are there to sample more markets , and as a double check .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You weren't a real Nielsen family.
Nielsen [wikipedia.org] uses both diarys and electronic data collection.
As it says on Wikipedia, "electronic metering technology is the heart of the Nielsen ratings process.
"  The diaries are there to sample more markets, and as a double check.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953632</id>
	<title>my own experience</title>
	<author>rritterson</author>
	<datestamp>1257193620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use the 30 second skip button on my Tivo to flash through the commercials. This typically means that the only commercial I see is either the first one of the break, or the last one of the break. If the first one catches my attention in the first 3 seconds, I end up watching it, and if the last 5 seconds of the last one is intriguing (say, has a punch line but not the setup), I will rewind to watch it. Occasionally, I will end up watching a commercial in the middle if the quick flash draws my brain in too (typically with some sort of interesting colors, etc).</p><p>Otherwise, I just skip through them. Seems like there could be money made studying the unique commercial viewing habits of DVR users. I'm not sure if my own experiences are unique or common.</p><p>Also, is 'had commercial playing' the finest granularity Nielsen can provide? What percent of those people actually remembered what the ad was about? And how does that percentage compare to live TV watchers?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use the 30 second skip button on my Tivo to flash through the commercials .
This typically means that the only commercial I see is either the first one of the break , or the last one of the break .
If the first one catches my attention in the first 3 seconds , I end up watching it , and if the last 5 seconds of the last one is intriguing ( say , has a punch line but not the setup ) , I will rewind to watch it .
Occasionally , I will end up watching a commercial in the middle if the quick flash draws my brain in too ( typically with some sort of interesting colors , etc ) .Otherwise , I just skip through them .
Seems like there could be money made studying the unique commercial viewing habits of DVR users .
I 'm not sure if my own experiences are unique or common.Also , is 'had commercial playing ' the finest granularity Nielsen can provide ?
What percent of those people actually remembered what the ad was about ?
And how does that percentage compare to live TV watchers ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use the 30 second skip button on my Tivo to flash through the commercials.
This typically means that the only commercial I see is either the first one of the break, or the last one of the break.
If the first one catches my attention in the first 3 seconds, I end up watching it, and if the last 5 seconds of the last one is intriguing (say, has a punch line but not the setup), I will rewind to watch it.
Occasionally, I will end up watching a commercial in the middle if the quick flash draws my brain in too (typically with some sort of interesting colors, etc).Otherwise, I just skip through them.
Seems like there could be money made studying the unique commercial viewing habits of DVR users.
I'm not sure if my own experiences are unique or common.Also, is 'had commercial playing' the finest granularity Nielsen can provide?
What percent of those people actually remembered what the ad was about?
And how does that percentage compare to live TV watchers?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29954254</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>commodore64\_love</author>
	<datestamp>1257153060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>P.S.</p><p>I also see your ads online, like later tonight when I sit down to watch Stargate Universe.  Just one request - Can you stop playing the same damn ad 5 times in the same hour?  Give me some variety</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>P.S.I also see your ads online , like later tonight when I sit down to watch Stargate Universe .
Just one request - Can you stop playing the same damn ad 5 times in the same hour ?
Give me some variety</tokentext>
<sentencetext>P.S.I also see your ads online, like later tonight when I sit down to watch Stargate Universe.
Just one request - Can you stop playing the same damn ad 5 times in the same hour?
Give me some variety</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29957712</id>
	<title>Re:DVR increases ratings? DUH!</title>
	<author>Techman83</author>
	<datestamp>1257169740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Indeed, before setting up my mythbox 4 years ago, I never watched TV. I work a lot and also have a pretty active social life, so tying myself down to watch a particular show at a particular time is very difficult. If I do get to watch a show, it's half way through the season, I've got bugger all clue whats going on, so I can't be bothered.<br> <br>My Mythbox now has 3 tuners, 1.2TB of space and about 50 automatic record searches, sure I don't watch them all, but when something does interest me and I have a spare saturday and feel like chilling out, I can catch up on a show in one hit. Where in the new millennium, people simple aren't getting home at 5pm, eating at 6pm and settling in for the night every day of the week.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Indeed , before setting up my mythbox 4 years ago , I never watched TV .
I work a lot and also have a pretty active social life , so tying myself down to watch a particular show at a particular time is very difficult .
If I do get to watch a show , it 's half way through the season , I 've got bugger all clue whats going on , so I ca n't be bothered .
My Mythbox now has 3 tuners , 1.2TB of space and about 50 automatic record searches , sure I do n't watch them all , but when something does interest me and I have a spare saturday and feel like chilling out , I can catch up on a show in one hit .
Where in the new millennium , people simple are n't getting home at 5pm , eating at 6pm and settling in for the night every day of the week .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Indeed, before setting up my mythbox 4 years ago, I never watched TV.
I work a lot and also have a pretty active social life, so tying myself down to watch a particular show at a particular time is very difficult.
If I do get to watch a show, it's half way through the season, I've got bugger all clue whats going on, so I can't be bothered.
My Mythbox now has 3 tuners, 1.2TB of space and about 50 automatic record searches, sure I don't watch them all, but when something does interest me and I have a spare saturday and feel like chilling out, I can catch up on a show in one hit.
Where in the new millennium, people simple aren't getting home at 5pm, eating at 6pm and settling in for the night every day of the week.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29959306</id>
	<title>Re:Really?</title>
	<author>PPH</author>
	<datestamp>1257178560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Time shifting makes up for some stupid scheduling decision a TV executive may make.</p></div><p>Maybe not so stupid. Many of the scheduling decisions that you bemoan are designed to take viewers away from competitors. They hope that if they can grab you with a hit show, you'll be too lazy to switch away from the garbage that follows. They don't just sell advertizing time on individual shows. They sell blocks of prime time. And the 'zero sum' that they have to play with isn't 'eyeball-hours'. People are willing to watch more programming if there's more available with acceptable quality. The limited resource is advertizing dollars. The networks make out just as well if they can keep that spread oer fewer hours of programming.</p><p>You bastards with your PVRs mess up their tactics.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Time shifting makes up for some stupid scheduling decision a TV executive may make.Maybe not so stupid .
Many of the scheduling decisions that you bemoan are designed to take viewers away from competitors .
They hope that if they can grab you with a hit show , you 'll be too lazy to switch away from the garbage that follows .
They do n't just sell advertizing time on individual shows .
They sell blocks of prime time .
And the 'zero sum ' that they have to play with is n't 'eyeball-hours' .
People are willing to watch more programming if there 's more available with acceptable quality .
The limited resource is advertizing dollars .
The networks make out just as well if they can keep that spread oer fewer hours of programming.You bastards with your PVRs mess up their tactics .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Time shifting makes up for some stupid scheduling decision a TV executive may make.Maybe not so stupid.
Many of the scheduling decisions that you bemoan are designed to take viewers away from competitors.
They hope that if they can grab you with a hit show, you'll be too lazy to switch away from the garbage that follows.
They don't just sell advertizing time on individual shows.
They sell blocks of prime time.
And the 'zero sum' that they have to play with isn't 'eyeball-hours'.
People are willing to watch more programming if there's more available with acceptable quality.
The limited resource is advertizing dollars.
The networks make out just as well if they can keep that spread oer fewer hours of programming.You bastards with your PVRs mess up their tactics.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29958648</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257174480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The upcoming 0.22 release of MythTV has support for nVidia's VDPAU (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU</a> [wikipedia.org]) which allows full 1080p decode on suitable cards or ION-based netbooks/motherboards.</p><p>MythTV 0.22-RC1 is out now, so feel free to test it out.</p><p>Cheers,<br>knowledgejunkie</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The upcoming 0.22 release of MythTV has support for nVidia 's VDPAU ( http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU [ wikipedia.org ] ) which allows full 1080p decode on suitable cards or ION-based netbooks/motherboards.MythTV 0.22-RC1 is out now , so feel free to test it out.Cheers,knowledgejunkie</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The upcoming 0.22 release of MythTV has support for nVidia's VDPAU (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU [wikipedia.org]) which allows full 1080p decode on suitable cards or ION-based netbooks/motherboards.MythTV 0.22-RC1 is out now, so feel free to test it out.Cheers,knowledgejunkie</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29955412</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257158280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm happy to report that MythTV 0.22 works with NVidia's VDPAU quite nicely.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm happy to report that MythTV 0.22 works with NVidia 's VDPAU quite nicely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm happy to report that MythTV 0.22 works with NVidia's VDPAU quite nicely.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29954076</id>
	<title>Re:Over enthusiastic conclusions</title>
	<author>StellarFury</author>
	<datestamp>1257195540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Except that only 45\% of people (or less) give two shits about commericals. I don't think DVR is devaluing ad time, rather, it's revealing the actual value of ad time - the number of people who aren't tuning out their commericals.</p><p>I'm not sure that DVR is burning down content provider's homes. It's more like doing an audit on a $250,000 home and discovering, due to structural damage, it's only worth $125,000.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Except that only 45 \ % of people ( or less ) give two shits about commericals .
I do n't think DVR is devaluing ad time , rather , it 's revealing the actual value of ad time - the number of people who are n't tuning out their commericals.I 'm not sure that DVR is burning down content provider 's homes .
It 's more like doing an audit on a $ 250,000 home and discovering , due to structural damage , it 's only worth $ 125,000 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except that only 45\% of people (or less) give two shits about commericals.
I don't think DVR is devaluing ad time, rather, it's revealing the actual value of ad time - the number of people who aren't tuning out their commericals.I'm not sure that DVR is burning down content provider's homes.
It's more like doing an audit on a $250,000 home and discovering, due to structural damage, it's only worth $125,000.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953926</id>
	<title>Actual Target Advertising Audience</title>
	<author>resistant</author>
	<datestamp>1257194820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It occurs to me to wonder if a person who is strong-willed and motivated enough to take the trouble to skip commercials on a DVR, is of the sort who weren't listening to the commercials anyway even if they did occasionally stare at the screen during commercial breaks before the era of DVR, and further, whether the sort of person who passively listens to commercials with or without a DVR is the sort of person who tends to be influenced by commercials with which to begin. Perhaps worried advertisers and network executives realistically aren't losing nearly as much of their actual, receptive (if hard to measure) audience(s) as they fear.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It occurs to me to wonder if a person who is strong-willed and motivated enough to take the trouble to skip commercials on a DVR , is of the sort who were n't listening to the commercials anyway even if they did occasionally stare at the screen during commercial breaks before the era of DVR , and further , whether the sort of person who passively listens to commercials with or without a DVR is the sort of person who tends to be influenced by commercials with which to begin .
Perhaps worried advertisers and network executives realistically are n't losing nearly as much of their actual , receptive ( if hard to measure ) audience ( s ) as they fear .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It occurs to me to wonder if a person who is strong-willed and motivated enough to take the trouble to skip commercials on a DVR, is of the sort who weren't listening to the commercials anyway even if they did occasionally stare at the screen during commercial breaks before the era of DVR, and further, whether the sort of person who passively listens to commercials with or without a DVR is the sort of person who tends to be influenced by commercials with which to begin.
Perhaps worried advertisers and network executives realistically aren't losing nearly as much of their actual, receptive (if hard to measure) audience(s) as they fear.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29954894</id>
	<title>Re:That's the BAD economy!</title>
	<author>Ogive17</author>
	<datestamp>1257155880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Do you skip commercials on over-the-air channels?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you skip commercials on over-the-air channels ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you skip commercials on over-the-air channels?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953902</id>
	<title>we're not watching the ads -- we're distracted</title>
	<author>Jeff Jungblut</author>
	<datestamp>1257194760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When watching programs like soap operas that don't require full-time attention, we'll be doing other stuff on our computers (work, WoW, newsreading, facebook, email etc) and often not bother to skip commercials if we're not even paying attention to what's playing on the TiVo.

It'd be interesting to see if certain classes of shows get commercial-skipped more than others. Here, shows that require full couch-sitting attention will get commercial-skipped a lot more than shows that can be treated more as background noise.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When watching programs like soap operas that do n't require full-time attention , we 'll be doing other stuff on our computers ( work , WoW , newsreading , facebook , email etc ) and often not bother to skip commercials if we 're not even paying attention to what 's playing on the TiVo .
It 'd be interesting to see if certain classes of shows get commercial-skipped more than others .
Here , shows that require full couch-sitting attention will get commercial-skipped a lot more than shows that can be treated more as background noise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When watching programs like soap operas that don't require full-time attention, we'll be doing other stuff on our computers (work, WoW, newsreading, facebook, email etc) and often not bother to skip commercials if we're not even paying attention to what's playing on the TiVo.
It'd be interesting to see if certain classes of shows get commercial-skipped more than others.
Here, shows that require full couch-sitting attention will get commercial-skipped a lot more than shows that can be treated more as background noise.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29963846</id>
	<title>TV ratings technologies</title>
	<author>yuna49</author>
	<datestamp>1257265860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>TV ratings are collected in two different ways.  Some people, like you, fill in diaries to report their viewing, but Nielsen also maintains panels of homes with meters attached to all the video devices in the household.  These meters report viewing pretty much on a minute-by-minute (or maybe these days second-by-second) basis.  There's a national meter panel, and metered panels in the largest markets as well.  National networks (both broadcast and cable) and national advertisers depend on these data from metered households.  The diary method is used to measure viewing in local markets during "sweeps" periods (February, May, July, November).  Smaller markets don't have the revenues to justify full-time metering and use the cheaper, and obviously somewhat more inaccurate, diary method instead.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>TV ratings are collected in two different ways .
Some people , like you , fill in diaries to report their viewing , but Nielsen also maintains panels of homes with meters attached to all the video devices in the household .
These meters report viewing pretty much on a minute-by-minute ( or maybe these days second-by-second ) basis .
There 's a national meter panel , and metered panels in the largest markets as well .
National networks ( both broadcast and cable ) and national advertisers depend on these data from metered households .
The diary method is used to measure viewing in local markets during " sweeps " periods ( February , May , July , November ) .
Smaller markets do n't have the revenues to justify full-time metering and use the cheaper , and obviously somewhat more inaccurate , diary method instead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TV ratings are collected in two different ways.
Some people, like you, fill in diaries to report their viewing, but Nielsen also maintains panels of homes with meters attached to all the video devices in the household.
These meters report viewing pretty much on a minute-by-minute (or maybe these days second-by-second) basis.
There's a national meter panel, and metered panels in the largest markets as well.
National networks (both broadcast and cable) and national advertisers depend on these data from metered households.
The diary method is used to measure viewing in local markets during "sweeps" periods (February, May, July, November).
Smaller markets don't have the revenues to justify full-time metering and use the cheaper, and obviously somewhat more inaccurate, diary method instead.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29955040</id>
	<title>Re:That's the BAD economy!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257156780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can have the best of both worlds... FREE TV <i>and</i> SKIP COMMERCIALS.  Just get a DVD recorder with HDD built in.  Works just like TiVo (except you have to program when you want it to record and on what channel), but without the monthly fee!</p><p>I got the Magnovox 160GB DVD Recorder from Wal*Mart.  $227.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can have the best of both worlds... FREE TV and SKIP COMMERCIALS .
Just get a DVD recorder with HDD built in .
Works just like TiVo ( except you have to program when you want it to record and on what channel ) , but without the monthly fee ! I got the Magnovox 160GB DVD Recorder from Wal * Mart .
$ 227 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can have the best of both worlds... FREE TV and SKIP COMMERCIALS.
Just get a DVD recorder with HDD built in.
Works just like TiVo (except you have to program when you want it to record and on what channel), but without the monthly fee!I got the Magnovox 160GB DVD Recorder from Wal*Mart.
$227.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29956454</id>
	<title>Curious</title>
	<author>Copperfield</author>
	<datestamp>1257163380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder how much TV companies factor DVD sales (a fairly new revenue stream for them) in judging the success of a given show. Given my schedule I rarely have the opportunity to sit down and watch a television series. That being said, if I see a show that might peak my interest I will tend to check it out on Hulu or some other means and if I like it, Ill buy the seasonal DVD's to watch at my leisure.</p><p>With good, intelligent series like Kings, Jericho, etc. being cancelled over mindless "successes" like American Idol, Dancing with the Stars or the 57th season of Survivor, I have to wonder if too much favorability is given to the instant gratification of a neilsen rating rather than the possibilities of success via alternative distribution methods.</p><p>HBO/Showtime seems to have largely figured this out and were among the cutting edge of delivering quality shows on a DVD format, not just mindless, pop culture schlock that seems to infest advertised TV.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder how much TV companies factor DVD sales ( a fairly new revenue stream for them ) in judging the success of a given show .
Given my schedule I rarely have the opportunity to sit down and watch a television series .
That being said , if I see a show that might peak my interest I will tend to check it out on Hulu or some other means and if I like it , Ill buy the seasonal DVD 's to watch at my leisure.With good , intelligent series like Kings , Jericho , etc .
being cancelled over mindless " successes " like American Idol , Dancing with the Stars or the 57th season of Survivor , I have to wonder if too much favorability is given to the instant gratification of a neilsen rating rather than the possibilities of success via alternative distribution methods.HBO/Showtime seems to have largely figured this out and were among the cutting edge of delivering quality shows on a DVD format , not just mindless , pop culture schlock that seems to infest advertised TV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder how much TV companies factor DVD sales (a fairly new revenue stream for them) in judging the success of a given show.
Given my schedule I rarely have the opportunity to sit down and watch a television series.
That being said, if I see a show that might peak my interest I will tend to check it out on Hulu or some other means and if I like it, Ill buy the seasonal DVD's to watch at my leisure.With good, intelligent series like Kings, Jericho, etc.
being cancelled over mindless "successes" like American Idol, Dancing with the Stars or the 57th season of Survivor, I have to wonder if too much favorability is given to the instant gratification of a neilsen rating rather than the possibilities of success via alternative distribution methods.HBO/Showtime seems to have largely figured this out and were among the cutting edge of delivering quality shows on a DVD format, not just mindless, pop culture schlock that seems to infest advertised TV.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29958708</id>
	<title>Re:Really?</title>
	<author>thePowerOfGrayskull</author>
	<datestamp>1257174720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Recorded shows increase viewership? Like pirated movies increase movie ticket sales? Like pirated music increases digital music sales?</p></div><p>Except in one case, there are reliable sources with real numbers to back them up (ie actual monitoring of habits producing quantifiable data), while in the other you get only made up statistics to support one perspective or the other -- I'll let you pick which one is which<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Recorded shows increase viewership ?
Like pirated movies increase movie ticket sales ?
Like pirated music increases digital music sales ? Except in one case , there are reliable sources with real numbers to back them up ( ie actual monitoring of habits producing quantifiable data ) , while in the other you get only made up statistics to support one perspective or the other -- I 'll let you pick which one is which ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Recorded shows increase viewership?
Like pirated movies increase movie ticket sales?
Like pirated music increases digital music sales?Except in one case, there are reliable sources with real numbers to back them up (ie actual monitoring of habits producing quantifiable data), while in the other you get only made up statistics to support one perspective or the other -- I'll let you pick which one is which ;)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953690</id>
	<title>Re:Really?</title>
	<author>wizardforce</author>
	<datestamp>1257193860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My guess is that they'll treat the internet the same way they've treated every other technological advance for the last century+: fight with everything available to them to resist changing their business model until their respective corporate shareholders start lighting their torches and sharpening their pitchforks and grudgingly adapt to the new technology slowly but never really taking full advantage of it.  Perhaps even snagging themselves a new fangled piece of legislation like the DMCA or ACTA.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My guess is that they 'll treat the internet the same way they 've treated every other technological advance for the last century + : fight with everything available to them to resist changing their business model until their respective corporate shareholders start lighting their torches and sharpening their pitchforks and grudgingly adapt to the new technology slowly but never really taking full advantage of it .
Perhaps even snagging themselves a new fangled piece of legislation like the DMCA or ACTA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My guess is that they'll treat the internet the same way they've treated every other technological advance for the last century+: fight with everything available to them to resist changing their business model until their respective corporate shareholders start lighting their torches and sharpening their pitchforks and grudgingly adapt to the new technology slowly but never really taking full advantage of it.
Perhaps even snagging themselves a new fangled piece of legislation like the DMCA or ACTA.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29954084</id>
	<title>Apple ads</title>
	<author>wandazulu</author>
	<datestamp>1257195540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Basically the challenge to the ad companies is that, in the age of DVRs, you need to adjust your ads to be 1. immediately recognizable and 2. worth watching in the first place. The Apple ads are brilliant in that it's basically just two people surrounded by white. This makes the ads immediately recognizable, even when the Tivo is in full fast-forward mode. Then the ads have to be worth watching; I'll skip the debate about whether the Apple ads are worth watching, but I personally find them very funny and will actually stop or rewind to watch them.</p><p>I can see, though, that this sinks the local ad for the car dealership, or any other company that can't (or won't) come up with ads that make people sit up and take notice and make you go "wait, what?" I'd bet it's these companies and ad agencies that are doing the bulk of the complaining.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Basically the challenge to the ad companies is that , in the age of DVRs , you need to adjust your ads to be 1. immediately recognizable and 2. worth watching in the first place .
The Apple ads are brilliant in that it 's basically just two people surrounded by white .
This makes the ads immediately recognizable , even when the Tivo is in full fast-forward mode .
Then the ads have to be worth watching ; I 'll skip the debate about whether the Apple ads are worth watching , but I personally find them very funny and will actually stop or rewind to watch them.I can see , though , that this sinks the local ad for the car dealership , or any other company that ca n't ( or wo n't ) come up with ads that make people sit up and take notice and make you go " wait , what ?
" I 'd bet it 's these companies and ad agencies that are doing the bulk of the complaining .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Basically the challenge to the ad companies is that, in the age of DVRs, you need to adjust your ads to be 1. immediately recognizable and 2. worth watching in the first place.
The Apple ads are brilliant in that it's basically just two people surrounded by white.
This makes the ads immediately recognizable, even when the Tivo is in full fast-forward mode.
Then the ads have to be worth watching; I'll skip the debate about whether the Apple ads are worth watching, but I personally find them very funny and will actually stop or rewind to watch them.I can see, though, that this sinks the local ad for the car dealership, or any other company that can't (or won't) come up with ads that make people sit up and take notice and make you go "wait, what?
" I'd bet it's these companies and ad agencies that are doing the bulk of the complaining.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953518</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>Absolut187</author>
	<datestamp>1257193200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the point of the article is that most (ok, less than half) of people just don't care about commercials because TV is a passive, background activity.  If you're cooking dinner while you're watching house, you might actually like the fact that there are breaks in the program so you can tend to the food during the break.  For instance.</p><p>I'm curious as to how these statistics were collected.  Do the Nielsen people have technology installed in the DVRs now?  I'd be surprised if our DVRs aren't being data-mined yet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the point of the article is that most ( ok , less than half ) of people just do n't care about commercials because TV is a passive , background activity .
If you 're cooking dinner while you 're watching house , you might actually like the fact that there are breaks in the program so you can tend to the food during the break .
For instance.I 'm curious as to how these statistics were collected .
Do the Nielsen people have technology installed in the DVRs now ?
I 'd be surprised if our DVRs are n't being data-mined yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the point of the article is that most (ok, less than half) of people just don't care about commercials because TV is a passive, background activity.
If you're cooking dinner while you're watching house, you might actually like the fact that there are breaks in the program so you can tend to the food during the break.
For instance.I'm curious as to how these statistics were collected.
Do the Nielsen people have technology installed in the DVRs now?
I'd be surprised if our DVRs aren't being data-mined yet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953784</id>
	<title>Re:Define "humor"</title>
	<author>Rude Turnip</author>
	<datestamp>1257194280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Diggnation on Revision3 does commercials right.  Kevin and Alex do the commercial spots themselves and the show doesn't skip a beat.  The fact that the show hosts do the commercial spots adds sincerity and reminds the viewers that the show, the sponsors and the viewers are part of the same ecosystem.  Revision3 is internet-only on-demand, so you can only get the show in a DVR-like format.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Diggnation on Revision3 does commercials right .
Kevin and Alex do the commercial spots themselves and the show does n't skip a beat .
The fact that the show hosts do the commercial spots adds sincerity and reminds the viewers that the show , the sponsors and the viewers are part of the same ecosystem .
Revision3 is internet-only on-demand , so you can only get the show in a DVR-like format .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Diggnation on Revision3 does commercials right.
Kevin and Alex do the commercial spots themselves and the show doesn't skip a beat.
The fact that the show hosts do the commercial spots adds sincerity and reminds the viewers that the show, the sponsors and the viewers are part of the same ecosystem.
Revision3 is internet-only on-demand, so you can only get the show in a DVR-like format.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29955540</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>bunglebungle</author>
	<datestamp>1257158940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">VPDAU</a> [wikipedia.org], that problem is solved for recent NVidia cards.  Myth<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.22 (should be out soon) supports this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With VPDAU [ wikipedia.org ] , that problem is solved for recent NVidia cards .
Myth .22 ( should be out soon ) supports this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With VPDAU [wikipedia.org], that problem is solved for recent NVidia cards.
Myth .22 (should be out soon) supports this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953956</id>
	<title>Re:Really?</title>
	<author>StellarFury</author>
	<datestamp>1257194940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The point he was making was that technologies the RIAA/MPAA are afraid of actually end up making them money, which does make sense in this context. All the questions posed were sarcastically rhetorical, not literal.</p><p>Please read comment before posting reply. Thank you, come again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The point he was making was that technologies the RIAA/MPAA are afraid of actually end up making them money , which does make sense in this context .
All the questions posed were sarcastically rhetorical , not literal.Please read comment before posting reply .
Thank you , come again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The point he was making was that technologies the RIAA/MPAA are afraid of actually end up making them money, which does make sense in this context.
All the questions posed were sarcastically rhetorical, not literal.Please read comment before posting reply.
Thank you, come again.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29954050</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>BobMcD</author>
	<datestamp>1257195420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm glad you stopped by.  Your cousins in the music industry weren't as thoughtful nor as considerate.  Should you not wish to enjoy the same fate they are currently facing, please allow me to suggest you adapt.</p><p>You may want to find a way to collect revenue streams at the content level, perhaps from the cable company who gets a fairly large chunk of my household budget each month.  You may want to incorporate advertising into your programming.<br>You may want to do any number of things that I have not yet thought of yet.</p><p>What you do NOT want me to do is to turn off my television set because it isn't worth the electricity it uses and the cost of keeping it up to the most recent level of 'D'.  With World of Warcraft, Youtube, Slashdot, streaming Netflix, and many other popular internet-based time sinks at my disposal, your job and your millions are very much at risk.  I can already consume a lot of content that does not annoy me with advertisements about vaginal cleansing products and there is already little you can do to prevent it.</p><p>In short, I am all you have left, and I am hanging by a string.  Try not to piss me off.</p><p>Thanks, and best of luck to you!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm glad you stopped by .
Your cousins in the music industry were n't as thoughtful nor as considerate .
Should you not wish to enjoy the same fate they are currently facing , please allow me to suggest you adapt.You may want to find a way to collect revenue streams at the content level , perhaps from the cable company who gets a fairly large chunk of my household budget each month .
You may want to incorporate advertising into your programming.You may want to do any number of things that I have not yet thought of yet.What you do NOT want me to do is to turn off my television set because it is n't worth the electricity it uses and the cost of keeping it up to the most recent level of 'D' .
With World of Warcraft , Youtube , Slashdot , streaming Netflix , and many other popular internet-based time sinks at my disposal , your job and your millions are very much at risk .
I can already consume a lot of content that does not annoy me with advertisements about vaginal cleansing products and there is already little you can do to prevent it.In short , I am all you have left , and I am hanging by a string .
Try not to piss me off.Thanks , and best of luck to you !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm glad you stopped by.
Your cousins in the music industry weren't as thoughtful nor as considerate.
Should you not wish to enjoy the same fate they are currently facing, please allow me to suggest you adapt.You may want to find a way to collect revenue streams at the content level, perhaps from the cable company who gets a fairly large chunk of my household budget each month.
You may want to incorporate advertising into your programming.You may want to do any number of things that I have not yet thought of yet.What you do NOT want me to do is to turn off my television set because it isn't worth the electricity it uses and the cost of keeping it up to the most recent level of 'D'.
With World of Warcraft, Youtube, Slashdot, streaming Netflix, and many other popular internet-based time sinks at my disposal, your job and your millions are very much at risk.
I can already consume a lot of content that does not annoy me with advertisements about vaginal cleansing products and there is already little you can do to prevent it.In short, I am all you have left, and I am hanging by a string.
Try not to piss me off.Thanks, and best of luck to you!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953900</id>
	<title>Subliminal</title>
	<author>Tibia1</author>
	<datestamp>1257194760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Fast forward functions (I'm not sure about the new ones) enable you to see frames at certain intervals. That means you'll still most likely see this for a McDonald's commercial: <br>
1. Nice juicy burger<br>
2. Person smiling<br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<br>
7. McDonald's double arches logo<br>
Sure, it's not exactly the same, but seeing a 30 second commercial in a few seconds is still seeing and recognizing a product.(depending on how hungry you are)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Fast forward functions ( I 'm not sure about the new ones ) enable you to see frames at certain intervals .
That means you 'll still most likely see this for a McDonald 's commercial : 1 .
Nice juicy burger 2 .
Person smiling .. . 7. McDonald 's double arches logo Sure , it 's not exactly the same , but seeing a 30 second commercial in a few seconds is still seeing and recognizing a product .
( depending on how hungry you are )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fast forward functions (I'm not sure about the new ones) enable you to see frames at certain intervals.
That means you'll still most likely see this for a McDonald's commercial: 
1.
Nice juicy burger
2.
Person smiling ...
7. McDonald's double arches logo
Sure, it's not exactly the same, but seeing a 30 second commercial in a few seconds is still seeing and recognizing a product.
(depending on how hungry you are)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953342</id>
	<title>I actually like commercials...</title>
	<author>DevStar</author>
	<datestamp>1257192360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Much to my wife's chagrin, I actually enjoy watching commercials.  Not all or even most commercials, but I like to do 30s skip to see which commercials look interesting, then I'll rewind and watch them.
<p>
When I'm online I'm just not that interested in going to a website to watch movie trailers, but if one happens to be on while I'm 30s skipping, I'm a lot more inclind to watch.  My web-mode is very reading centric with lots of clicking.  My TV mode is very much a passive observer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Much to my wife 's chagrin , I actually enjoy watching commercials .
Not all or even most commercials , but I like to do 30s skip to see which commercials look interesting , then I 'll rewind and watch them .
When I 'm online I 'm just not that interested in going to a website to watch movie trailers , but if one happens to be on while I 'm 30s skipping , I 'm a lot more inclind to watch .
My web-mode is very reading centric with lots of clicking .
My TV mode is very much a passive observer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Much to my wife's chagrin, I actually enjoy watching commercials.
Not all or even most commercials, but I like to do 30s skip to see which commercials look interesting, then I'll rewind and watch them.
When I'm online I'm just not that interested in going to a website to watch movie trailers, but if one happens to be on while I'm 30s skipping, I'm a lot more inclind to watch.
My web-mode is very reading centric with lots of clicking.
My TV mode is very much a passive observer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29958932</id>
	<title>Re:television was supposed to kill the cinema hous</title>
	<author>thePowerOfGrayskull</author>
	<datestamp>1257175860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually if you look at those numbers, you do see some drops in '05 and '08, and '09 will be close.
<p>
That aside, and germane to the TFA -- I've stopped going to movies not because of the Internet, or piracy, or anything else .  It's pretty simple -- when you consistently lower the quality of the movies, raise the prices (where are the avg ticket prices coming from in that chart? haven't seen it that low except for matinee), reduce the quantity of food while raising the price, and then to add insult to injury force me to watch fucking commercials at the beginning of every movie.... I give up.  It's no longer worth my time or money. (Actual commercials -- not previews which I've never minded... but coke/nike/tbs/tnt/sprint/at&amp;t/et al ). I'll wait for video so that I can rent it; or for cable if it's not worth that... or just not watch it if it looked really bad.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually if you look at those numbers , you do see some drops in '05 and '08 , and '09 will be close .
That aside , and germane to the TFA -- I 've stopped going to movies not because of the Internet , or piracy , or anything else .
It 's pretty simple -- when you consistently lower the quality of the movies , raise the prices ( where are the avg ticket prices coming from in that chart ?
have n't seen it that low except for matinee ) , reduce the quantity of food while raising the price , and then to add insult to injury force me to watch fucking commercials at the beginning of every movie.... I give up .
It 's no longer worth my time or money .
( Actual commercials -- not previews which I 've never minded... but coke/nike/tbs/tnt/sprint/at&amp;t/et al ) .
I 'll wait for video so that I can rent it ; or for cable if it 's not worth that... or just not watch it if it looked really bad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually if you look at those numbers, you do see some drops in '05 and '08, and '09 will be close.
That aside, and germane to the TFA -- I've stopped going to movies not because of the Internet, or piracy, or anything else .
It's pretty simple -- when you consistently lower the quality of the movies, raise the prices (where are the avg ticket prices coming from in that chart?
haven't seen it that low except for matinee), reduce the quantity of food while raising the price, and then to add insult to injury force me to watch fucking commercials at the beginning of every movie.... I give up.
It's no longer worth my time or money.
(Actual commercials -- not previews which I've never minded... but coke/nike/tbs/tnt/sprint/at&amp;t/et al ).
I'll wait for video so that I can rent it; or for cable if it's not worth that... or just not watch it if it looked really bad.
</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29954636</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>Z1NG</author>
	<datestamp>1257154740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't care how many times I've seen the coke executive commercial about coke zero - its still reasonably funny. At least the ads on hulu are crazy short, I mean I easily zone out for longer periods of time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't care how many times I 've seen the coke executive commercial about coke zero - its still reasonably funny .
At least the ads on hulu are crazy short , I mean I easily zone out for longer periods of time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't care how many times I've seen the coke executive commercial about coke zero - its still reasonably funny.
At least the ads on hulu are crazy short, I mean I easily zone out for longer periods of time.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953310</id>
	<title>but are they really?</title>
	<author>wizardforce</author>
	<datestamp>1257192240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What are the odds that most people use the time during commercials to go get themselves a drink or something and aren't actually watching them?  Sure with a DVR you could skip over them but it could very well be just a habit not to do so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What are the odds that most people use the time during commercials to go get themselves a drink or something and are n't actually watching them ?
Sure with a DVR you could skip over them but it could very well be just a habit not to do so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What are the odds that most people use the time during commercials to go get themselves a drink or something and aren't actually watching them?
Sure with a DVR you could skip over them but it could very well be just a habit not to do so.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953676</id>
	<title>Re:Really?</title>
	<author>Artraze</author>
	<datestamp>1257193800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I doubt they ever will.  You see, they spend so much time making up statistics and figures about the problems of piracy, they can not believe that statistics showing \_positive\_ aspects of piracy are anything but made up as well.  So, they have to defer to the most basic facts in the situation: people have got their stuff and didn't pay them for it, and therefore piracy is bad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I doubt they ever will .
You see , they spend so much time making up statistics and figures about the problems of piracy , they can not believe that statistics showing \ _positive \ _ aspects of piracy are anything but made up as well .
So , they have to defer to the most basic facts in the situation : people have got their stuff and did n't pay them for it , and therefore piracy is bad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I doubt they ever will.
You see, they spend so much time making up statistics and figures about the problems of piracy, they can not believe that statistics showing \_positive\_ aspects of piracy are anything but made up as well.
So, they have to defer to the most basic facts in the situation: people have got their stuff and didn't pay them for it, and therefore piracy is bad.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953446</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257192840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Re "seeing a commercial these days just feels odd"...  I get the same feeling when I am stuck using a public PC (e.g. at a library) and start seeing ads on the web.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Re " seeing a commercial these days just feels odd " ... I get the same feeling when I am stuck using a public PC ( e.g .
at a library ) and start seeing ads on the web .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Re "seeing a commercial these days just feels odd"...  I get the same feeling when I am stuck using a public PC (e.g.
at a library) and start seeing ads on the web.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29954908</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>PRMan</author>
	<datestamp>1257156000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>At one point I signed up for Nielsen ratings through my TiVo, so yes, they are definitely making deals with the providers to count ratings and "datamine" DVRs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>At one point I signed up for Nielsen ratings through my TiVo , so yes , they are definitely making deals with the providers to count ratings and " datamine " DVRs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At one point I signed up for Nielsen ratings through my TiVo, so yes, they are definitely making deals with the providers to count ratings and "datamine" DVRs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953454</id>
	<title>Re:watching commercials</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257192900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You know, if you push the "Pause" button on the DVR remote, you can go pee, make a phone call, and grab another brewski, all without worrying whether or not the program is back on...</p><p>As many have pointed out, it doesn't do any good to increase viewership if you also enable skipping of commercials. Product placement is the future of television advertising. What's amusing now is watching home improvement shows where they blur the labels on any product whose makers haven't payed up! They even pixelate T-shirt logos.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You know , if you push the " Pause " button on the DVR remote , you can go pee , make a phone call , and grab another brewski , all without worrying whether or not the program is back on...As many have pointed out , it does n't do any good to increase viewership if you also enable skipping of commercials .
Product placement is the future of television advertising .
What 's amusing now is watching home improvement shows where they blur the labels on any product whose makers have n't payed up !
They even pixelate T-shirt logos .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know, if you push the "Pause" button on the DVR remote, you can go pee, make a phone call, and grab another brewski, all without worrying whether or not the program is back on...As many have pointed out, it doesn't do any good to increase viewership if you also enable skipping of commercials.
Product placement is the future of television advertising.
What's amusing now is watching home improvement shows where they blur the labels on any product whose makers haven't payed up!
They even pixelate T-shirt logos.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29955320</id>
	<title>Re:Really?</title>
	<author>plague3106</author>
	<datestamp>1257157860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Time shifting makes up for some stupid scheduling decision a TV executive may make.</i></p><p>Well, before recording was popular, they'd schedule a popular show of theirs against the competing network.  Force you to make a choice.  Now you don't have to.. yet it seems they continue to do this.  Maybe most people don't record still, but I don't miss either show due to schedule conflicts since I've gotten a dvr.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Time shifting makes up for some stupid scheduling decision a TV executive may make.Well , before recording was popular , they 'd schedule a popular show of theirs against the competing network .
Force you to make a choice .
Now you do n't have to.. yet it seems they continue to do this .
Maybe most people do n't record still , but I do n't miss either show due to schedule conflicts since I 've gotten a dvr .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Time shifting makes up for some stupid scheduling decision a TV executive may make.Well, before recording was popular, they'd schedule a popular show of theirs against the competing network.
Force you to make a choice.
Now you don't have to.. yet it seems they continue to do this.
Maybe most people don't record still, but I don't miss either show due to schedule conflicts since I've gotten a dvr.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29955632</id>
	<title>Re:Really?</title>
	<author>stewbacca</author>
	<datestamp>1257159480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My wife and I have a hard time finding the time to keep watching a show if we miss a couple of episodes in a row. If I can't find the episodes we missed on the network's web site, on torrents, or iTunes (in that order, generally), then we just stop watching that show. I think there's a lesson in here somewhere.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My wife and I have a hard time finding the time to keep watching a show if we miss a couple of episodes in a row .
If I ca n't find the episodes we missed on the network 's web site , on torrents , or iTunes ( in that order , generally ) , then we just stop watching that show .
I think there 's a lesson in here somewhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My wife and I have a hard time finding the time to keep watching a show if we miss a couple of episodes in a row.
If I can't find the episodes we missed on the network's web site, on torrents, or iTunes (in that order, generally), then we just stop watching that show.
I think there's a lesson in here somewhere.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29954238</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>Maxo-Texas</author>
	<datestamp>1257153000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have to agree with the other person.  Cable TV has gotten so expensive that it cuts into my discretionary spending.<br>It's odd that you pay them and I pay them too, isn't it?</p><p>I remember when I paid for cable because it had no commercials.</p><p>Also... when there were 2 or 3 commercials in a commercial break, I'd usually watch them.  Now that there are 6-7 minutes of commercials I skip them unless they look entertaining as I skip by.</p><p>I've developed the ability on the web and television to not see or process commercials when I don't want to.</p><p>I'm probably not in your target audience anyway.  I save 30\% of my gross income.  I buy products based on research, not advertisements.  I always bargain shop and rarely pay full retail.  If you advertise restaurants, I might be in your target audience but to be honest, you'd do a LOT better with a $1 off coupon in the newspaper (which I read and mine for coupons) than dropping $50 million on a television ad campaign.  For example, I love geico commercials but I'd never get the insurance because when I price compared it, it was a lot more expensive than 21st century insurance.  (Don't get me started on Allstate who shafted me badly-- refusing to give me a free letter saying they couldn't cover my lodging so Fema couldn't put me up in a hotel).</p><p>I've never bought a television based on a television ad (I find the concept ironic).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to agree with the other person .
Cable TV has gotten so expensive that it cuts into my discretionary spending.It 's odd that you pay them and I pay them too , is n't it ? I remember when I paid for cable because it had no commercials.Also... when there were 2 or 3 commercials in a commercial break , I 'd usually watch them .
Now that there are 6-7 minutes of commercials I skip them unless they look entertaining as I skip by.I 've developed the ability on the web and television to not see or process commercials when I do n't want to.I 'm probably not in your target audience anyway .
I save 30 \ % of my gross income .
I buy products based on research , not advertisements .
I always bargain shop and rarely pay full retail .
If you advertise restaurants , I might be in your target audience but to be honest , you 'd do a LOT better with a $ 1 off coupon in the newspaper ( which I read and mine for coupons ) than dropping $ 50 million on a television ad campaign .
For example , I love geico commercials but I 'd never get the insurance because when I price compared it , it was a lot more expensive than 21st century insurance .
( Do n't get me started on Allstate who shafted me badly-- refusing to give me a free letter saying they could n't cover my lodging so Fema could n't put me up in a hotel ) .I 've never bought a television based on a television ad ( I find the concept ironic ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to agree with the other person.
Cable TV has gotten so expensive that it cuts into my discretionary spending.It's odd that you pay them and I pay them too, isn't it?I remember when I paid for cable because it had no commercials.Also... when there were 2 or 3 commercials in a commercial break, I'd usually watch them.
Now that there are 6-7 minutes of commercials I skip them unless they look entertaining as I skip by.I've developed the ability on the web and television to not see or process commercials when I don't want to.I'm probably not in your target audience anyway.
I save 30\% of my gross income.
I buy products based on research, not advertisements.
I always bargain shop and rarely pay full retail.
If you advertise restaurants, I might be in your target audience but to be honest, you'd do a LOT better with a $1 off coupon in the newspaper (which I read and mine for coupons) than dropping $50 million on a television ad campaign.
For example, I love geico commercials but I'd never get the insurance because when I price compared it, it was a lot more expensive than 21st century insurance.
(Don't get me started on Allstate who shafted me badly-- refusing to give me a free letter saying they couldn't cover my lodging so Fema couldn't put me up in a hotel).I've never bought a television based on a television ad (I find the concept ironic).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29956082</id>
	<title>Welcome to the new TV watchers</title>
	<author>markdavis</author>
	<datestamp>1257161280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have used TiVo's forever... since they first came out.<br>I watch nothing that isn't recorded.</p><p>Yet, when I fast forward through commercials, which is normal for me, I still SEE them.  And I OFTEN will stop and watch a commercial if it appears to be interesting or for something I have interest in purchasing.</p><p>Welcome to the new higher-tech TV watcher- we don't want to watch ads for things we have no interest in.  And we certainly don't need or want to see the same ad over and over and over again.  If I am not in the market for a car, a car commercial is nothing but a waste of time.  If I am a man, I don't want to see commercials about that "fresh feeling" down there.  I certainly have no interest in debt consolidation, dresses, children's cereal, or 90\% of the other stuff in commercials.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have used TiVo 's forever... since they first came out.I watch nothing that is n't recorded.Yet , when I fast forward through commercials , which is normal for me , I still SEE them .
And I OFTEN will stop and watch a commercial if it appears to be interesting or for something I have interest in purchasing.Welcome to the new higher-tech TV watcher- we do n't want to watch ads for things we have no interest in .
And we certainly do n't need or want to see the same ad over and over and over again .
If I am not in the market for a car , a car commercial is nothing but a waste of time .
If I am a man , I do n't want to see commercials about that " fresh feeling " down there .
I certainly have no interest in debt consolidation , dresses , children 's cereal , or 90 \ % of the other stuff in commercials .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have used TiVo's forever... since they first came out.I watch nothing that isn't recorded.Yet, when I fast forward through commercials, which is normal for me, I still SEE them.
And I OFTEN will stop and watch a commercial if it appears to be interesting or for something I have interest in purchasing.Welcome to the new higher-tech TV watcher- we don't want to watch ads for things we have no interest in.
And we certainly don't need or want to see the same ad over and over and over again.
If I am not in the market for a car, a car commercial is nothing but a waste of time.
If I am a man, I don't want to see commercials about that "fresh feeling" down there.
I certainly have no interest in debt consolidation, dresses, children's cereal, or 90\% of the other stuff in commercials.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29954888</id>
	<title>It's not just about skipping commericals</title>
	<author>slapout</author>
	<datestamp>1257155880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've said it for years -- it's not just about skipping commercials. It's also about being able to see shows that I can't watch while they're on. More people will watch a show if they can see it at their convenience.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've said it for years -- it 's not just about skipping commercials .
It 's also about being able to see shows that I ca n't watch while they 're on .
More people will watch a show if they can see it at their convenience .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've said it for years -- it's not just about skipping commercials.
It's also about being able to see shows that I can't watch while they're on.
More people will watch a show if they can see it at their convenience.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29954214</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>commodore64\_love</author>
	<datestamp>1257152880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you want me to watch your advertising, just add topless actors.</p><p>'k thanks.</p><p>Actually I do see a lot of your ads, like now when I'm surfing the net and the TV is playing live.  I cannot skip live video.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you want me to watch your advertising , just add topless actors .
'k thanks.Actually I do see a lot of your ads , like now when I 'm surfing the net and the TV is playing live .
I can not skip live video .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you want me to watch your advertising, just add topless actors.
'k thanks.Actually I do see a lot of your ads, like now when I'm surfing the net and the TV is playing live.
I cannot skip live video.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29956646</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>xaxa</author>
	<datestamp>1257164460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It sounds stupid - but I prefer the commercials for a lot of shows that I don't much care about.</p></div><p>But then why watch the show at all?</p><p>I must be unusual. I usually watch one show, then when it finishes I turn the TV off and do something else. (In this case, post on Slashdot...)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It sounds stupid - but I prefer the commercials for a lot of shows that I do n't much care about.But then why watch the show at all ? I must be unusual .
I usually watch one show , then when it finishes I turn the TV off and do something else .
( In this case , post on Slashdot... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It sounds stupid - but I prefer the commercials for a lot of shows that I don't much care about.But then why watch the show at all?I must be unusual.
I usually watch one show, then when it finishes I turn the TV off and do something else.
(In this case, post on Slashdot...)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29955254</id>
	<title>I'm guilty of forgetting to fast forward</title>
	<author>Sir\_Dill</author>
	<datestamp>1257157620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sometimes, As another poster pointed out, I am watching shows while I am doing something else.<br>
in fact, it is a rare occasion where I am watching something and NOT doing something else.<br>
sometimes I catch the commercials because I am "sleeping at the controls".<br>
I also have a harmony remote which allows me to use the skip option on my DVR without having to dink around with the remote</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sometimes , As another poster pointed out , I am watching shows while I am doing something else .
in fact , it is a rare occasion where I am watching something and NOT doing something else .
sometimes I catch the commercials because I am " sleeping at the controls " .
I also have a harmony remote which allows me to use the skip option on my DVR without having to dink around with the remote</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sometimes, As another poster pointed out, I am watching shows while I am doing something else.
in fact, it is a rare occasion where I am watching something and NOT doing something else.
sometimes I catch the commercials because I am "sleeping at the controls".
I also have a harmony remote which allows me to use the skip option on my DVR without having to dink around with the remote</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953198</id>
	<title>see...</title>
	<author>Emesee</author>
	<datestamp>1257191880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>things tend to workout after all....

things always aren't so bad.... so be of good cheer</htmltext>
<tokenext>things tend to workout after all... . things always are n't so bad.... so be of good cheer</tokentext>
<sentencetext>things tend to workout after all....

things always aren't so bad.... so be of good cheer</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29965034</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1257270840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i> I pay your favorite show's bills because people that I trust tell me that you watch my commercials. </i></p><p>No, you pay their bills because your sales go up when you advertise and go down when you don't. If the show doesn't get ratings your sales don't go up as much so you won't have to pay as much. If your ad is ineffective your sales won't go up as much or at all even if it's a highly rated show.</p><p>Those frogs sold a lot of budweiser. The ineffective ads I don't remember.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I pay your favorite show 's bills because people that I trust tell me that you watch my commercials .
No , you pay their bills because your sales go up when you advertise and go down when you do n't .
If the show does n't get ratings your sales do n't go up as much so you wo n't have to pay as much .
If your ad is ineffective your sales wo n't go up as much or at all even if it 's a highly rated show.Those frogs sold a lot of budweiser .
The ineffective ads I do n't remember .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I pay your favorite show's bills because people that I trust tell me that you watch my commercials.
No, you pay their bills because your sales go up when you advertise and go down when you don't.
If the show doesn't get ratings your sales don't go up as much so you won't have to pay as much.
If your ad is ineffective your sales won't go up as much or at all even if it's a highly rated show.Those frogs sold a lot of budweiser.
The ineffective ads I don't remember.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29956126</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>BobMcD</author>
	<datestamp>1257161580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You've surpassed my level technical savvy, I'm afraid.  I don't know what VDPAU is, so I'm not certain I'd be chasing a dev version of something to get it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 've surpassed my level technical savvy , I 'm afraid .
I do n't know what VDPAU is , so I 'm not certain I 'd be chasing a dev version of something to get it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You've surpassed my level technical savvy, I'm afraid.
I don't know what VDPAU is, so I'm not certain I'd be chasing a dev version of something to get it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29954362</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953940</id>
	<title>Re:watching commercials</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257194820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Exactly, whenever I watch something with ads that has been recorded, if I just need to use the bathroom or get something from the fridge I let the ads run, I like the extra background noise (even if I don't pay attention to it), and if you don't like the noise, there's always the Mute button. Letting the ads run while I take a piss means I have to fast-forward through that much less crap to get back to the show of interest. If what you want to get up and do takes a short time, why pause if you're only going to fast forward anyway?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly , whenever I watch something with ads that has been recorded , if I just need to use the bathroom or get something from the fridge I let the ads run , I like the extra background noise ( even if I do n't pay attention to it ) , and if you do n't like the noise , there 's always the Mute button .
Letting the ads run while I take a piss means I have to fast-forward through that much less crap to get back to the show of interest .
If what you want to get up and do takes a short time , why pause if you 're only going to fast forward anyway ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly, whenever I watch something with ads that has been recorded, if I just need to use the bathroom or get something from the fridge I let the ads run, I like the extra background noise (even if I don't pay attention to it), and if you don't like the noise, there's always the Mute button.
Letting the ads run while I take a piss means I have to fast-forward through that much less crap to get back to the show of interest.
If what you want to get up and do takes a short time, why pause if you're only going to fast forward anyway?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29954158</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>commodore64\_love</author>
	<datestamp>1257152640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nielsen tracks the data the same way they've always tracked it - 4000 homes are selected in 210 different cities/towns, and their viewing habits tracked.  The only difference is instead of saying the television was "tuned to NBC" or "tuned to FOX", it will say "tuned to DVR" and which program was being watched.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nielsen tracks the data the same way they 've always tracked it - 4000 homes are selected in 210 different cities/towns , and their viewing habits tracked .
The only difference is instead of saying the television was " tuned to NBC " or " tuned to FOX " , it will say " tuned to DVR " and which program was being watched .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nielsen tracks the data the same way they've always tracked it - 4000 homes are selected in 210 different cities/towns, and their viewing habits tracked.
The only difference is instead of saying the television was "tuned to NBC" or "tuned to FOX", it will say "tuned to DVR" and which program was being watched.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953518</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953604</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257193500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I actually enjoy watching the commercials where I am (Canada) simply because many are "informative" to a certain extent. I do like to know when/where sales are on, and for the most part, commercials are a good way of learning that new products are available.</p><p>I never "believe" commercials and their wacky claims, but sometimes the Geico eyeballs and the Swiffer Mop ( I feel sorry for him) are funnier than the TV show I am watching.</p><p>I hate to say it, but the acting in most commercials is better and more believable than most TV shows...Lost...anyone?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I actually enjoy watching the commercials where I am ( Canada ) simply because many are " informative " to a certain extent .
I do like to know when/where sales are on , and for the most part , commercials are a good way of learning that new products are available.I never " believe " commercials and their wacky claims , but sometimes the Geico eyeballs and the Swiffer Mop ( I feel sorry for him ) are funnier than the TV show I am watching.I hate to say it , but the acting in most commercials is better and more believable than most TV shows...Lost...anyone ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I actually enjoy watching the commercials where I am (Canada) simply because many are "informative" to a certain extent.
I do like to know when/where sales are on, and for the most part, commercials are a good way of learning that new products are available.I never "believe" commercials and their wacky claims, but sometimes the Geico eyeballs and the Swiffer Mop ( I feel sorry for him) are funnier than the TV show I am watching.I hate to say it, but the acting in most commercials is better and more believable than most TV shows...Lost...anyone?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953796</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>ArbitraryDescriptor</author>
	<datestamp>1257194400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hello, I am the sponsor who keeps your favorite show on the air.  Have we met?  No?  Well let me introduce myself. <br> <br> I am not a magical entity, I am merely a corporation looking to protect my bottom line.  I do not like or dislike shows, I do not judge them in any way.  I don't have the internet, and I don't read your fan forums.  So I don't know how many of you really like the show; all I know is whether you saw my ad or not.  I pay your favorite show's bills because people that I trust tell me that you watch my commercials.  If I found out that you were not watching my commercials, I would stop wasting my money on you, and your show would die.
<br> <br>
Are popular Sci-fi shows canceled because they are more expensive?  Probably, the return on investment for special effects and such is not so great when compared to a sitcom.  But is the return on investment made even worse because a much larger percentage of their fans torrent, DVR, or otherwise remove themselves from the Nielsen numbers?  More than likely.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hello , I am the sponsor who keeps your favorite show on the air .
Have we met ?
No ? Well let me introduce myself .
I am not a magical entity , I am merely a corporation looking to protect my bottom line .
I do not like or dislike shows , I do not judge them in any way .
I do n't have the internet , and I do n't read your fan forums .
So I do n't know how many of you really like the show ; all I know is whether you saw my ad or not .
I pay your favorite show 's bills because people that I trust tell me that you watch my commercials .
If I found out that you were not watching my commercials , I would stop wasting my money on you , and your show would die .
Are popular Sci-fi shows canceled because they are more expensive ?
Probably , the return on investment for special effects and such is not so great when compared to a sitcom .
But is the return on investment made even worse because a much larger percentage of their fans torrent , DVR , or otherwise remove themselves from the Nielsen numbers ?
More than likely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hello, I am the sponsor who keeps your favorite show on the air.
Have we met?
No?  Well let me introduce myself.
I am not a magical entity, I am merely a corporation looking to protect my bottom line.
I do not like or dislike shows, I do not judge them in any way.
I don't have the internet, and I don't read your fan forums.
So I don't know how many of you really like the show; all I know is whether you saw my ad or not.
I pay your favorite show's bills because people that I trust tell me that you watch my commercials.
If I found out that you were not watching my commercials, I would stop wasting my money on you, and your show would die.
Are popular Sci-fi shows canceled because they are more expensive?
Probably, the return on investment for special effects and such is not so great when compared to a sitcom.
But is the return on investment made even worse because a much larger percentage of their fans torrent, DVR, or otherwise remove themselves from the Nielsen numbers?
More than likely.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29954644</id>
	<title>Commercials are part of our culture</title>
	<author>zarmanto</author>
	<datestamp>1257154800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been watching DVRed television and skipping through the commercials for a few years now, (EyeTV with comskip on an iMac) and one of the things I've noticed during that time is that commercials really are a part of our culture, and I'm actually missing out on that when I just let comskip leap ahead all willy-nilly.  I mean, think about it... who <i>doesn't</i> recognize these catch phrases instantly -- regardless of whether you love or hate what they're advertising?

</p><ul>
<li>Hi.  I'm a Mac.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and I'm a PC.</li><li>Got Milk?</li><li>Just do it.</li></ul><p>

And if you've been watching tv for awhile, you'll probably recognize almost every one of these as well:</p><ul>
<li>Bud.... Bud.... Bud....</li><li>It just keeps going, and going, and going...</li><li>Yo quiero Taco Bell!</li><li>I've fallen, and I can't get up!</li><li>What would you do for a Klondike Bar?</li><li>You've just won the superbowl!  What are you going to do next?</li><li>Where's the beef?!?</li></ul><p>Now, admittedly we might be better off <i>without</i> some of the "culture" garnered from all those thirty-second pseudo-short-stories... and certainly we can do without watching the same commercial ten times during a single program.  But for myself, I've found that I let comskip <i>mark</i> the commercial breaks, but I don't let it auto-skip those breaks anymore; I do that manually, as I see fit.  (Such as the second one of those uninspired Windows 7 ads comes on. Ugh!)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been watching DVRed television and skipping through the commercials for a few years now , ( EyeTV with comskip on an iMac ) and one of the things I 've noticed during that time is that commercials really are a part of our culture , and I 'm actually missing out on that when I just let comskip leap ahead all willy-nilly .
I mean , think about it... who does n't recognize these catch phrases instantly -- regardless of whether you love or hate what they 're advertising ?
Hi. I 'm a Mac .
... and I 'm a PC.Got Milk ? Just do it .
And if you 've been watching tv for awhile , you 'll probably recognize almost every one of these as well : Bud.... Bud.... Bud....It just keeps going , and going , and going...Yo quiero Taco Bell ! I 've fallen , and I ca n't get up ! What would you do for a Klondike Bar ? You 've just won the superbowl !
What are you going to do next ? Where 's the beef ? !
? Now , admittedly we might be better off without some of the " culture " garnered from all those thirty-second pseudo-short-stories... and certainly we can do without watching the same commercial ten times during a single program .
But for myself , I 've found that I let comskip mark the commercial breaks , but I do n't let it auto-skip those breaks anymore ; I do that manually , as I see fit .
( Such as the second one of those uninspired Windows 7 ads comes on .
Ugh ! )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been watching DVRed television and skipping through the commercials for a few years now, (EyeTV with comskip on an iMac) and one of the things I've noticed during that time is that commercials really are a part of our culture, and I'm actually missing out on that when I just let comskip leap ahead all willy-nilly.
I mean, think about it... who doesn't recognize these catch phrases instantly -- regardless of whether you love or hate what they're advertising?
Hi.  I'm a Mac.
... and I'm a PC.Got Milk?Just do it.
And if you've been watching tv for awhile, you'll probably recognize almost every one of these as well:
Bud.... Bud.... Bud....It just keeps going, and going, and going...Yo quiero Taco Bell!I've fallen, and I can't get up!What would you do for a Klondike Bar?You've just won the superbowl!
What are you going to do next?Where's the beef?!
?Now, admittedly we might be better off without some of the "culture" garnered from all those thirty-second pseudo-short-stories... and certainly we can do without watching the same commercial ten times during a single program.
But for myself, I've found that I let comskip mark the commercial breaks, but I don't let it auto-skip those breaks anymore; I do that manually, as I see fit.
(Such as the second one of those uninspired Windows 7 ads comes on.
Ugh!)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953364</id>
	<title>watching commercials</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257192480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Commercials give me a break to go pee, make a phone call, or grab another brew. I still need that break when I'm watching a DVR'd show. I'm not actually watching the commercials.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Commercials give me a break to go pee , make a phone call , or grab another brew .
I still need that break when I 'm watching a DVR 'd show .
I 'm not actually watching the commercials .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Commercials give me a break to go pee, make a phone call, or grab another brew.
I still need that break when I'm watching a DVR'd show.
I'm not actually watching the commercials.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29959964</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>Imrik</author>
	<datestamp>1257184440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the worst one for me was a KFC ad, not only was it the same ad for every slot, it was also a 15 second ad in a 30 second block.  The next week when I wanted to watch that show I went for the torrent instead.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the worst one for me was a KFC ad , not only was it the same ad for every slot , it was also a 15 second ad in a 30 second block .
The next week when I wanted to watch that show I went for the torrent instead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the worst one for me was a KFC ad, not only was it the same ad for every slot, it was also a 15 second ad in a 30 second block.
The next week when I wanted to watch that show I went for the torrent instead.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29954830</id>
	<title>Re:That's because they need MythTV</title>
	<author>Carbaholic</author>
	<datestamp>1257155580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can confirm this first hand.</p><p>Usually I skip commercials with my TV tuner, but just the other day I was truing my mtn. bike wheel while watching TV and I appreciated the commercial breaks so I could go swap tools and the like.</p><p>In anticipation of the coming rebuttal: I know that I could just pause it at any time but I didn't. It just doesn't feel right to pause when there's a perfectly good commercial break coming up. It does not make rational sense, but since when are human beings rational?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can confirm this first hand.Usually I skip commercials with my TV tuner , but just the other day I was truing my mtn .
bike wheel while watching TV and I appreciated the commercial breaks so I could go swap tools and the like.In anticipation of the coming rebuttal : I know that I could just pause it at any time but I did n't .
It just does n't feel right to pause when there 's a perfectly good commercial break coming up .
It does not make rational sense , but since when are human beings rational ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can confirm this first hand.Usually I skip commercials with my TV tuner, but just the other day I was truing my mtn.
bike wheel while watching TV and I appreciated the commercial breaks so I could go swap tools and the like.In anticipation of the coming rebuttal: I know that I could just pause it at any time but I didn't.
It just doesn't feel right to pause when there's a perfectly good commercial break coming up.
It does not make rational sense, but since when are human beings rational?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953608</id>
	<title>Re:watching commercials</title>
	<author>ionix5891</author>
	<datestamp>1257193500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>with so many commercial breaks you either have a drink problem or/and bladder problem</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>with so many commercial breaks you either have a drink problem or/and bladder problem</tokentext>
<sentencetext>with so many commercial breaks you either have a drink problem or/and bladder problem</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29953548</id>
	<title>television was supposed to kill the cinema house</title>
	<author>circletimessquare</author>
	<datestamp>1257193260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>then the vcr was supposed to kill the cinema house</p><p>now the internet is supposed to kill the cinema house</p><p>meanwhile:</p><p><a href="http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/" title="boxofficemojo.com">http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/</a> [boxofficemojo.com]</p><p>lesson: people fear losing control. as if control had anything to do with making money off media in the first place</p><p>in your desperate attempt to retain control, dear media execs, you might want to notice you are wasting a lot of energy over issues that have nothing to do with your bottom line. only your fear tells you this is the case</p><p>in your business strategies, you need more zen, less mafia goons</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>then the vcr was supposed to kill the cinema housenow the internet is supposed to kill the cinema housemeanwhile : http : //boxofficemojo.com/yearly/ [ boxofficemojo.com ] lesson : people fear losing control .
as if control had anything to do with making money off media in the first placein your desperate attempt to retain control , dear media execs , you might want to notice you are wasting a lot of energy over issues that have nothing to do with your bottom line .
only your fear tells you this is the casein your business strategies , you need more zen , less mafia goons</tokentext>
<sentencetext>then the vcr was supposed to kill the cinema housenow the internet is supposed to kill the cinema housemeanwhile:http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/ [boxofficemojo.com]lesson: people fear losing control.
as if control had anything to do with making money off media in the first placein your desperate attempt to retain control, dear media execs, you might want to notice you are wasting a lot of energy over issues that have nothing to do with your bottom line.
only your fear tells you this is the casein your business strategies, you need more zen, less mafia goons</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1653246.29955356</id>
	<title>Its just the demographic is changing</title>
	<author>dilvish\_the\_damned</author>
	<datestamp>1257157980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As the tivo crowd gets older, we increasingly forget what the hell we were doing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As the tivo crowd gets older , we increasingly forget what the hell we were doing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As the tivo crowd gets older, we increasingly forget what the hell we were doing.</sentencetext>
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