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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_02_1549235</id>
	<title>New XBMC Port Promises ARM-Powered HD In the Palm of Your Hand</title>
	<author>ScuttleMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1257180480000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Engadget has a recent teaser video promising <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/xbmc-arm-port-teased-will-manage-hd-playback-from-pocket-sized/">HD content via XBMC running on a 600MHz Beagleboard</a>.  This could mean great things for home theater putterers, with the Beagleboard tipping the scales at a modest $150 and the ability to fit in the palm of your hand.  Already running on everything from MIDs to AppleTVs and now moving to ARM-powered devices like the Beagleboard, it looks like XBMC needs to be renamed from "Xbox Media Center" to "ubiquitous media center."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Engadget has a recent teaser video promising HD content via XBMC running on a 600MHz Beagleboard .
This could mean great things for home theater putterers , with the Beagleboard tipping the scales at a modest $ 150 and the ability to fit in the palm of your hand .
Already running on everything from MIDs to AppleTVs and now moving to ARM-powered devices like the Beagleboard , it looks like XBMC needs to be renamed from " Xbox Media Center " to " ubiquitous media center .
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<sentencetext>Engadget has a recent teaser video promising HD content via XBMC running on a 600MHz Beagleboard.
This could mean great things for home theater putterers, with the Beagleboard tipping the scales at a modest $150 and the ability to fit in the palm of your hand.
Already running on everything from MIDs to AppleTVs and now moving to ARM-powered devices like the Beagleboard, it looks like XBMC needs to be renamed from "Xbox Media Center" to "ubiquitous media center.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29951836</id>
	<title>Why do I have to wait 30 seconds for Post Preview?</title>
	<author>electrosoccertux</author>
	<datestamp>1257185040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's hardly even worth actively participating in discussion anymore...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's hardly even worth actively participating in discussion anymore.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's hardly even worth actively participating in discussion anymore...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29951812</id>
	<title>Re:Cheapest</title>
	<author>Vuojo</author>
	<datestamp>1257184920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Anything with Nvidias ION board can handle high bitrate 1080p movies without dropped frames. Here is a link to the board I used for my XBMC <a href="http://pden.zotac.com/index.php?page=shop.product\_details&amp;flypage=flypage\_images.tpl&amp;product\_id=169&amp;category\_id=15&amp;option=com\_virtuemart&amp;Itemid=1" title="zotac.com" rel="nofollow">http://pden.zotac.com/index.php?page=shop.product\_details&amp;flypage=flypage\_images.tpl&amp;product\_id=169&amp;category\_id=15&amp;option=com\_virtuemart&amp;Itemid=1</a> [zotac.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anything with Nvidias ION board can handle high bitrate 1080p movies without dropped frames .
Here is a link to the board I used for my XBMC http : //pden.zotac.com/index.php ? page = shop.product \ _details&amp;flypage = flypage \ _images.tpl&amp;product \ _id = 169&amp;category \ _id = 15&amp;option = com \ _virtuemart&amp;Itemid = 1 [ zotac.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anything with Nvidias ION board can handle high bitrate 1080p movies without dropped frames.
Here is a link to the board I used for my XBMC http://pden.zotac.com/index.php?page=shop.product\_details&amp;flypage=flypage\_images.tpl&amp;product\_id=169&amp;category\_id=15&amp;option=com\_virtuemart&amp;Itemid=1 [zotac.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29952620</id>
	<title>Points wrong/missing in summary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257189060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>1. XBMC on ARM Branch can be viewed here: <a href="http://xbmc.org/trac/browser/branches/xbmc\_on\_arm" title="xbmc.org" rel="nofollow">http://xbmc.org/trac/browser/branches/xbmc\_on\_arm</a> [xbmc.org] <br>

2. Discussion about XBMC on ARM with a lot more background info is going on here in the official forum: <a href="http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=35139&amp;page=14" title="xbmc.org" rel="nofollow">http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=35139&amp;page=14</a> [xbmc.org] <br>

3. You might want to link to the first source i.e. the official xbmc webpage: <a href="http://xbmc.org/theuni/2009/10/23/xbmc-on-arm-gles-2-0/" title="xbmc.org" rel="nofollow">http://xbmc.org/theuni/2009/10/23/xbmc-on-arm-gles-2-0/</a> [xbmc.org] <br>

4. XBMC is not called Xbox Media Center anymore, just XBMC.</htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
XBMC on ARM Branch can be viewed here : http : //xbmc.org/trac/browser/branches/xbmc \ _on \ _arm [ xbmc.org ] 2 .
Discussion about XBMC on ARM with a lot more background info is going on here in the official forum : http : //xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php ? t = 35139&amp;page = 14 [ xbmc.org ] 3 .
You might want to link to the first source i.e .
the official xbmc webpage : http : //xbmc.org/theuni/2009/10/23/xbmc-on-arm-gles-2-0/ [ xbmc.org ] 4 .
XBMC is not called Xbox Media Center anymore , just XBMC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
XBMC on ARM Branch can be viewed here: http://xbmc.org/trac/browser/branches/xbmc\_on\_arm [xbmc.org] 

2.
Discussion about XBMC on ARM with a lot more background info is going on here in the official forum: http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=35139&amp;page=14 [xbmc.org] 

3.
You might want to link to the first source i.e.
the official xbmc webpage: http://xbmc.org/theuni/2009/10/23/xbmc-on-arm-gles-2-0/ [xbmc.org] 

4.
XBMC is not called Xbox Media Center anymore, just XBMC.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29951718</id>
	<title>Cheapest</title>
	<author>manekineko2</author>
	<datestamp>1257184500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This looks incredible if they can pull it off, but until this is out, what is the cheapest XBMC machine I could throw together that would be able to play any content I throw at it?</p><p>I'd love to jump on upgrading from my vintage Xbox XBMC, but I'd hate to drop a few hundred on an upgrade only to find out that it plays 99\% of videos out there, but chokes on all high bit rate 1080p MKVs with lots of action, or something like that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This looks incredible if they can pull it off , but until this is out , what is the cheapest XBMC machine I could throw together that would be able to play any content I throw at it ? I 'd love to jump on upgrading from my vintage Xbox XBMC , but I 'd hate to drop a few hundred on an upgrade only to find out that it plays 99 \ % of videos out there , but chokes on all high bit rate 1080p MKVs with lots of action , or something like that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This looks incredible if they can pull it off, but until this is out, what is the cheapest XBMC machine I could throw together that would be able to play any content I throw at it?I'd love to jump on upgrading from my vintage Xbox XBMC, but I'd hate to drop a few hundred on an upgrade only to find out that it plays 99\% of videos out there, but chokes on all high bit rate 1080p MKVs with lots of action, or something like that.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29951980</id>
	<title>Didn't XBMC drop the Xbox support awhile ago?</title>
	<author>tlhIngan</author>
	<datestamp>1257185760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I seem to remember a year or two ago there was a call for maintainers of the Xbox port - seeing that they want to get away from it (old/obsolete hardware that few people have left, requires use of Xbox SDK that no one has access to now (legally)).</p><p>Of course, the ability to run elsewhere (Windows/Mac/Linux/etc) has given it a lot more legitimacy in the world, so I think the Xbox side has been downplayed to be almost non-existent now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I seem to remember a year or two ago there was a call for maintainers of the Xbox port - seeing that they want to get away from it ( old/obsolete hardware that few people have left , requires use of Xbox SDK that no one has access to now ( legally ) ) .Of course , the ability to run elsewhere ( Windows/Mac/Linux/etc ) has given it a lot more legitimacy in the world , so I think the Xbox side has been downplayed to be almost non-existent now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I seem to remember a year or two ago there was a call for maintainers of the Xbox port - seeing that they want to get away from it (old/obsolete hardware that few people have left, requires use of Xbox SDK that no one has access to now (legally)).Of course, the ability to run elsewhere (Windows/Mac/Linux/etc) has given it a lot more legitimacy in the world, so I think the Xbox side has been downplayed to be almost non-existent now.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29956282</id>
	<title>For now WDTV Live is good</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257162300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I \_loved\_ the XBMC on the original xbox, but by now it lacks the computing power to play most of 720p content I have not even gonna mention 1080p stuff.</p><p>I love the XBMC interface and all the addons and themes and a ton of other stuff. There is simply no match. So I'd be following this development and hope that something comes to market in two years or less for a reasonable price when I'm looking to replace my current set up.</p><p>In the mean time I've settled on WDTV Live for my current media center needs. Its networked, plays 1080p without a problem. Oh and its freaking tiny. But the best part its hackable! So there is some people (b-rad) currently making some homebrew firmware with addons like torrenting, etc.</p><p>So while this XBMC port is in development, I'd suggest for anyone looking for a networked media player to have a look at WDTV Live (or even its older version: WDTV). IMO, there is no better match in terms of price/performance ratio.</p><p>If someone could port XBMC to WDTV Live I'd literally quit my day job and go into business selling this combo. It would blow the competition out of the water.</p><p>PS. I'm not a shill for WD. I have no vested interest other than I'm an owner of two WDTV Live boxes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I \ _loved \ _ the XBMC on the original xbox , but by now it lacks the computing power to play most of 720p content I have not even gon na mention 1080p stuff.I love the XBMC interface and all the addons and themes and a ton of other stuff .
There is simply no match .
So I 'd be following this development and hope that something comes to market in two years or less for a reasonable price when I 'm looking to replace my current set up.In the mean time I 've settled on WDTV Live for my current media center needs .
Its networked , plays 1080p without a problem .
Oh and its freaking tiny .
But the best part its hackable !
So there is some people ( b-rad ) currently making some homebrew firmware with addons like torrenting , etc.So while this XBMC port is in development , I 'd suggest for anyone looking for a networked media player to have a look at WDTV Live ( or even its older version : WDTV ) .
IMO , there is no better match in terms of price/performance ratio.If someone could port XBMC to WDTV Live I 'd literally quit my day job and go into business selling this combo .
It would blow the competition out of the water.PS .
I 'm not a shill for WD .
I have no vested interest other than I 'm an owner of two WDTV Live boxes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I \_loved\_ the XBMC on the original xbox, but by now it lacks the computing power to play most of 720p content I have not even gonna mention 1080p stuff.I love the XBMC interface and all the addons and themes and a ton of other stuff.
There is simply no match.
So I'd be following this development and hope that something comes to market in two years or less for a reasonable price when I'm looking to replace my current set up.In the mean time I've settled on WDTV Live for my current media center needs.
Its networked, plays 1080p without a problem.
Oh and its freaking tiny.
But the best part its hackable!
So there is some people (b-rad) currently making some homebrew firmware with addons like torrenting, etc.So while this XBMC port is in development, I'd suggest for anyone looking for a networked media player to have a look at WDTV Live (or even its older version: WDTV).
IMO, there is no better match in terms of price/performance ratio.If someone could port XBMC to WDTV Live I'd literally quit my day job and go into business selling this combo.
It would blow the competition out of the water.PS.
I'm not a shill for WD.
I have no vested interest other than I'm an owner of two WDTV Live boxes.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29952544</id>
	<title>Re:Cheapest</title>
	<author>AmiMoJo</author>
	<datestamp>1257188580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Plus you can get an Acer Aspire box for $200 which comes with a 160GB HDD and uses x86 so it can do other stuff (XBMC runs on top of Linux so you can install a full distro and run servers etc). The HDD is useful for recording to or using a local video storage, and the nVidia ION GPU does 1080p without problems as well as running many games.</p><p>While ARM is very low power and this is a clever solution, when it comes to the bottom end of the market it will have to be spectacular to compete with generic x86 nettops or it's price advantage will very quickly slip away.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Plus you can get an Acer Aspire box for $ 200 which comes with a 160GB HDD and uses x86 so it can do other stuff ( XBMC runs on top of Linux so you can install a full distro and run servers etc ) .
The HDD is useful for recording to or using a local video storage , and the nVidia ION GPU does 1080p without problems as well as running many games.While ARM is very low power and this is a clever solution , when it comes to the bottom end of the market it will have to be spectacular to compete with generic x86 nettops or it 's price advantage will very quickly slip away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Plus you can get an Acer Aspire box for $200 which comes with a 160GB HDD and uses x86 so it can do other stuff (XBMC runs on top of Linux so you can install a full distro and run servers etc).
The HDD is useful for recording to or using a local video storage, and the nVidia ION GPU does 1080p without problems as well as running many games.While ARM is very low power and this is a clever solution, when it comes to the bottom end of the market it will have to be spectacular to compete with generic x86 nettops or it's price advantage will very quickly slip away.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29952398</id>
	<title>Does this come with TI driver source code?</title>
	<author>CockMonster</author>
	<datestamp>1257187860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because I've seen some TI driver source code and it's frankly, shit. No wonder they left the camera module off</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because I 've seen some TI driver source code and it 's frankly , shit .
No wonder they left the camera module off</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because I've seen some TI driver source code and it's frankly, shit.
No wonder they left the camera module off</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29955690</id>
	<title>Re:Cheapest</title>
	<author>hairyfeet</author>
	<datestamp>1257159720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It ain't dirt cheap like a beagle, but if you want it to work any format you can throw at it something like <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856158007" title="newegg.com">this</a> [newegg.com] would be your best bet. It has an Atom dual, ION graphics, 2Gb of RAM, 320Gb HDD, and a slim DVD burner to top it off. Put in a cheap capture card and you are ready to go.</p><p>

 And if you have an XP Pro license lying around you can look up "TinyXP Beast Edition" which is an ultra stripped down XP Pro that only uses 63Mb of RAM and almost no CPU, great for running something like XMBC or my favorite <a href="http://www.team-mediaportal.com/" title="team-mediaportal.com">Mediaportal</a> [team-mediaportal.com]. Of course you can always go with the new Win7 HP, but I figure why add the extra bloat if you don't need it. But the above box with either media center sounds like just what you are looking for, something that will play all formats and still look nice in the entertainment center.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It ai n't dirt cheap like a beagle , but if you want it to work any format you can throw at it something like this [ newegg.com ] would be your best bet .
It has an Atom dual , ION graphics , 2Gb of RAM , 320Gb HDD , and a slim DVD burner to top it off .
Put in a cheap capture card and you are ready to go .
And if you have an XP Pro license lying around you can look up " TinyXP Beast Edition " which is an ultra stripped down XP Pro that only uses 63Mb of RAM and almost no CPU , great for running something like XMBC or my favorite Mediaportal [ team-mediaportal.com ] .
Of course you can always go with the new Win7 HP , but I figure why add the extra bloat if you do n't need it .
But the above box with either media center sounds like just what you are looking for , something that will play all formats and still look nice in the entertainment center .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It ain't dirt cheap like a beagle, but if you want it to work any format you can throw at it something like this [newegg.com] would be your best bet.
It has an Atom dual, ION graphics, 2Gb of RAM, 320Gb HDD, and a slim DVD burner to top it off.
Put in a cheap capture card and you are ready to go.
And if you have an XP Pro license lying around you can look up "TinyXP Beast Edition" which is an ultra stripped down XP Pro that only uses 63Mb of RAM and almost no CPU, great for running something like XMBC or my favorite Mediaportal [team-mediaportal.com].
Of course you can always go with the new Win7 HP, but I figure why add the extra bloat if you don't need it.
But the above box with either media center sounds like just what you are looking for, something that will play all formats and still look nice in the entertainment center.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29952860</id>
	<title>Re:Cheapest</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257190140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here's a review of one of the <a href="http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3562" title="anandtech.com" rel="nofollow">Zotac ION boards at Anandtec</a> [anandtech.com], and here's a link to some <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813500028" title="newegg.com" rel="nofollow">customer reviews at newegg</a> [newegg.com].  They are sold with an external (brick) power supply or an ATX connector.  An interesting little critter, this board, if your CPU demands aren't high, but you need decent video performance and low power usage.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's a review of one of the Zotac ION boards at Anandtec [ anandtech.com ] , and here 's a link to some customer reviews at newegg [ newegg.com ] .
They are sold with an external ( brick ) power supply or an ATX connector .
An interesting little critter , this board , if your CPU demands are n't high , but you need decent video performance and low power usage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's a review of one of the Zotac ION boards at Anandtec [anandtech.com], and here's a link to some customer reviews at newegg [newegg.com].
They are sold with an external (brick) power supply or an ATX connector.
An interesting little critter, this board, if your CPU demands aren't high, but you need decent video performance and low power usage.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29952000</id>
	<title>XBMC has been renamed</title>
	<author>Morose</author>
	<datestamp>1257185820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Although it's easy to still think of it as the X-Box Media Center still, it's been renamed to XBMC Media Center for quite awhile owing to the vast amount of systems it runs on.  Lovely fact checking there<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Although it 's easy to still think of it as the X-Box Media Center still , it 's been renamed to XBMC Media Center for quite awhile owing to the vast amount of systems it runs on .
Lovely fact checking there / .
: P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Although it's easy to still think of it as the X-Box Media Center still, it's been renamed to XBMC Media Center for quite awhile owing to the vast amount of systems it runs on.
Lovely fact checking there /.
:P</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29952436</id>
	<title>Pandora?</title>
	<author>Spykk</author>
	<datestamp>1257188040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>As I recall, the <a href="http://openpandora.org/" title="openpandora.org" rel="nofollow">pandora</a> [openpandora.org] handheld is also built on an OMAP3530 and has a video out jack. Video playback didn't work out so well for Sony's PSP, but having a HTPC in my pocket that can stream my videos over the network seems like a good thing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As I recall , the pandora [ openpandora.org ] handheld is also built on an OMAP3530 and has a video out jack .
Video playback did n't work out so well for Sony 's PSP , but having a HTPC in my pocket that can stream my videos over the network seems like a good thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As I recall, the pandora [openpandora.org] handheld is also built on an OMAP3530 and has a video out jack.
Video playback didn't work out so well for Sony's PSP, but having a HTPC in my pocket that can stream my videos over the network seems like a good thing.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29952130</id>
	<title>Re:XBMC has been renamed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257186420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>So it went from the Xbox Media Center to the XB Media Center Media Center?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So it went from the Xbox Media Center to the XB Media Center Media Center ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So it went from the Xbox Media Center to the XB Media Center Media Center?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29952710</id>
	<title>Re:Didn't XBMC drop the Xbox support awhile ago?</title>
	<author>Civil\_Disobedient</author>
	<datestamp>1257189540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I seem to remember a year or two ago there was a call for maintainers of the Xbox port</i></p><p>Funny, I recall a few years before <i>that</i> when the XBMC group were positively <i>adamant</i> that they would never, <b>ever</b> do a Linux port because so much of the code relied on DirectX (MS-only) routines.</p><p>I'm <i>extremely</i> grateful they decided to change their position.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I seem to remember a year or two ago there was a call for maintainers of the Xbox portFunny , I recall a few years before that when the XBMC group were positively adamant that they would never , ever do a Linux port because so much of the code relied on DirectX ( MS-only ) routines.I 'm extremely grateful they decided to change their position .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I seem to remember a year or two ago there was a call for maintainers of the Xbox portFunny, I recall a few years before that when the XBMC group were positively adamant that they would never, ever do a Linux port because so much of the code relied on DirectX (MS-only) routines.I'm extremely grateful they decided to change their position.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29955644</id>
	<title>Re:Other hardware like this</title>
	<author>sabbo</author>
	<datestamp>1257159540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would recommend that you check out an ARM board that has good support in OpenOCD. This creates an excellent development platform for the stuff you mentioned.</p><p>Check out the Olimex L9260 board. It is based on an ARM926 core and has plenty of RAM and Flash. It also has SD/MMC interface, SPI, I2C, UART etc<br>http://www.olimex.com/dev/sam9-L9260.html</p><p>OpenOCD software:<br>http://openocd.berlios.de/web/</p><p>You need a hardware device for OpenOCD to work. There are plenty of options, most are based on the FTDI 2232 chip. Here is one from Olimex:<br>http://www.olimex.com/dev/arm-usb-ocd.html</p><p>It is possible to use openocd from linux, mac os x and windows.</p><p>
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<tokenext>I would recommend that you check out an ARM board that has good support in OpenOCD .
This creates an excellent development platform for the stuff you mentioned.Check out the Olimex L9260 board .
It is based on an ARM926 core and has plenty of RAM and Flash .
It also has SD/MMC interface , SPI , I2C , UART etchttp : //www.olimex.com/dev/sam9-L9260.htmlOpenOCD software : http : //openocd.berlios.de/web/You need a hardware device for OpenOCD to work .
There are plenty of options , most are based on the FTDI 2232 chip .
Here is one from Olimex : http : //www.olimex.com/dev/arm-usb-ocd.htmlIt is possible to use openocd from linux , mac os x and windows .
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<sentencetext>I would recommend that you check out an ARM board that has good support in OpenOCD.
This creates an excellent development platform for the stuff you mentioned.Check out the Olimex L9260 board.
It is based on an ARM926 core and has plenty of RAM and Flash.
It also has SD/MMC interface, SPI, I2C, UART etchttp://www.olimex.com/dev/sam9-L9260.htmlOpenOCD software:http://openocd.berlios.de/web/You need a hardware device for OpenOCD to work.
There are plenty of options, most are based on the FTDI 2232 chip.
Here is one from Olimex:http://www.olimex.com/dev/arm-usb-ocd.htmlIt is possible to use openocd from linux, mac os x and windows.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29965306</id>
	<title>Re:Cheapest</title>
	<author>MikeFM</author>
	<datestamp>1257271980000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>I wonder how this compares to an iPod Touch (about $200 + $50 for cables) for playback quality. I dump HD files on that and play them to my tv all the time and they look good. $150 would be a bit cheaper but not a lot.</p><p>Apple is stupid for not giving playback to tv a nicer interface and including a remote (bluetooth?) with the AV cable for the $50. If it worked as a lite Apple TV it'd be a good way to convert people over.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder how this compares to an iPod Touch ( about $ 200 + $ 50 for cables ) for playback quality .
I dump HD files on that and play them to my tv all the time and they look good .
$ 150 would be a bit cheaper but not a lot.Apple is stupid for not giving playback to tv a nicer interface and including a remote ( bluetooth ?
) with the AV cable for the $ 50 .
If it worked as a lite Apple TV it 'd be a good way to convert people over .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder how this compares to an iPod Touch (about $200 + $50 for cables) for playback quality.
I dump HD files on that and play them to my tv all the time and they look good.
$150 would be a bit cheaper but not a lot.Apple is stupid for not giving playback to tv a nicer interface and including a remote (bluetooth?
) with the AV cable for the $50.
If it worked as a lite Apple TV it'd be a good way to convert people over.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29952630</id>
	<title>Arm powered</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1257189060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Reminds me of the arm-powered watches that you wear on your wrist. They wind themselves by the swinging motion as you walk.</p><p>Sorry, couldn't resist.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Reminds me of the arm-powered watches that you wear on your wrist .
They wind themselves by the swinging motion as you walk.Sorry , could n't resist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reminds me of the arm-powered watches that you wear on your wrist.
They wind themselves by the swinging motion as you walk.Sorry, couldn't resist.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29952780</id>
	<title>Other hardware like this</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257189840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been waiting for an excuse to ask slashdot this question.</p><p>What is a good resource for finding cheap, small, not overly feature  rich hobbiest boards like this one?</p><p>I've done some work with ATmega microcontrollers.  Went so far as to create my on little multitasking OS from the ground up based on some knowledge I gained from FreeRTOS.  I enjoyed the process and it taught me a great deal about the difficulties associated with task switching.  I quit when I realized that I REALLY wanted an MMU, or at least some memory protection.</p><p>I've written an MMC controller, a serial console for it, made my own little FS, none of it impressive to anyone with more than a slight clue about this stuff, but it reminds me of reading the notes from Linus about how Linux started out, and for me its a fun time and nice distraction from my day job of writing applications on top of a real OS.</p><p>I would prefer an x86 based board, anything 386 or better would be awesome, but it doesn't have to be.  In fact since I've yet to see a good 386 simulator/debugger, or at least nothing that to me compares to the stuff that Atmel provides, I'm more than open to any other processor, I'm not tied to anything as I'm simply not that good to make a big difference.</p><p>What I would like to find:<br>A complete board that I can plugin in and debug, relatively cheap would be great.<br>Debugging ability and supporting software is most important, I use a MacBook so OS X support is ideal, but I've got VMs with Windows and FreeBSD, and installing Linux is more than acceptable for the purpose if need be.  I really apprecate the simulator and debuggers the AVRStudio for Windows has, a copy of it for something more powerful would be ideal.  The AVR32 is probably the closest I'll get to that, but it doesn't seem that I can really use AVR32s on my on hardware real easy.  I can get a get a dev board for it, but throwing the chips onto something custom requires more effort than I would prefer to put into it.<br>Processor doesn't really matter, x86 would be nice since its probably got the largest base of reference code, but pretty much anything capable of running Linux is fine since I can use that as a reference.  Linux is not a requirement as I won't be running it, it just makes a good reference to have handy when the docs for the hardware aren't all that clear or I don't really understand a particular concept.<br>Onboard IO is pretty much a must.  Doesn't need VGA or anything, serial is plenty good enough for what I'll use it for, but  some sort of digital output is a requirement so I can control stuff.  I don't need a DAC as I can simulate one good enough to do audio as long as I have a digital pin of some sort to work with.<br>An ADC would be nice.<br>SPI would be really nice as I'm used to working with it and it makes MMC interfacing much easier.<br>64k would be more than enough ram, but more is certainly acceptable.  I've been shoving 4 processes in to 2k of RAM, and if I have a MMU that supports virtual addressing I care even less, as thats really what I'd like to learn next.<br>Speed isn't an issue, a 12mhz ATmega was plenty of my toying around so far, I'm not designing an end user OS, just playing.<br>Onboard clock would be ideal, as I never have properly got an AVR to run on an external clock so thats obviously a concept I don't grasp properly and I'm lazy so figuring it out slows me down.</p><p>So fellow geeks, where do I look to find this sort of thing, or what do you guys have experience with that you would recommend me looking into?  Something just slightly more powerful than the your typical 8bit Atmel or PIC microcontroller would be the target.</p><p>Hell, I don't even have to have a board, I just don't want to get a CPU that requires a bunch of external support circuitry, something microcontrollerish that I can just hookup some power to and start interfacing.  I dont mind adding some minor stuff but I don't want to have to spend 3 days working up a board design, then debug the hardware just to get to where I can run some code, otherwise I'd throw an x86 processor on a board myself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been waiting for an excuse to ask slashdot this question.What is a good resource for finding cheap , small , not overly feature rich hobbiest boards like this one ? I 've done some work with ATmega microcontrollers .
Went so far as to create my on little multitasking OS from the ground up based on some knowledge I gained from FreeRTOS .
I enjoyed the process and it taught me a great deal about the difficulties associated with task switching .
I quit when I realized that I REALLY wanted an MMU , or at least some memory protection.I 've written an MMC controller , a serial console for it , made my own little FS , none of it impressive to anyone with more than a slight clue about this stuff , but it reminds me of reading the notes from Linus about how Linux started out , and for me its a fun time and nice distraction from my day job of writing applications on top of a real OS.I would prefer an x86 based board , anything 386 or better would be awesome , but it does n't have to be .
In fact since I 've yet to see a good 386 simulator/debugger , or at least nothing that to me compares to the stuff that Atmel provides , I 'm more than open to any other processor , I 'm not tied to anything as I 'm simply not that good to make a big difference.What I would like to find : A complete board that I can plugin in and debug , relatively cheap would be great.Debugging ability and supporting software is most important , I use a MacBook so OS X support is ideal , but I 've got VMs with Windows and FreeBSD , and installing Linux is more than acceptable for the purpose if need be .
I really apprecate the simulator and debuggers the AVRStudio for Windows has , a copy of it for something more powerful would be ideal .
The AVR32 is probably the closest I 'll get to that , but it does n't seem that I can really use AVR32s on my on hardware real easy .
I can get a get a dev board for it , but throwing the chips onto something custom requires more effort than I would prefer to put into it.Processor does n't really matter , x86 would be nice since its probably got the largest base of reference code , but pretty much anything capable of running Linux is fine since I can use that as a reference .
Linux is not a requirement as I wo n't be running it , it just makes a good reference to have handy when the docs for the hardware are n't all that clear or I do n't really understand a particular concept.Onboard IO is pretty much a must .
Does n't need VGA or anything , serial is plenty good enough for what I 'll use it for , but some sort of digital output is a requirement so I can control stuff .
I do n't need a DAC as I can simulate one good enough to do audio as long as I have a digital pin of some sort to work with.An ADC would be nice.SPI would be really nice as I 'm used to working with it and it makes MMC interfacing much easier.64k would be more than enough ram , but more is certainly acceptable .
I 've been shoving 4 processes in to 2k of RAM , and if I have a MMU that supports virtual addressing I care even less , as thats really what I 'd like to learn next.Speed is n't an issue , a 12mhz ATmega was plenty of my toying around so far , I 'm not designing an end user OS , just playing.Onboard clock would be ideal , as I never have properly got an AVR to run on an external clock so thats obviously a concept I do n't grasp properly and I 'm lazy so figuring it out slows me down.So fellow geeks , where do I look to find this sort of thing , or what do you guys have experience with that you would recommend me looking into ?
Something just slightly more powerful than the your typical 8bit Atmel or PIC microcontroller would be the target.Hell , I do n't even have to have a board , I just do n't want to get a CPU that requires a bunch of external support circuitry , something microcontrollerish that I can just hookup some power to and start interfacing .
I dont mind adding some minor stuff but I do n't want to have to spend 3 days working up a board design , then debug the hardware just to get to where I can run some code , otherwise I 'd throw an x86 processor on a board myself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been waiting for an excuse to ask slashdot this question.What is a good resource for finding cheap, small, not overly feature  rich hobbiest boards like this one?I've done some work with ATmega microcontrollers.
Went so far as to create my on little multitasking OS from the ground up based on some knowledge I gained from FreeRTOS.
I enjoyed the process and it taught me a great deal about the difficulties associated with task switching.
I quit when I realized that I REALLY wanted an MMU, or at least some memory protection.I've written an MMC controller, a serial console for it, made my own little FS, none of it impressive to anyone with more than a slight clue about this stuff, but it reminds me of reading the notes from Linus about how Linux started out, and for me its a fun time and nice distraction from my day job of writing applications on top of a real OS.I would prefer an x86 based board, anything 386 or better would be awesome, but it doesn't have to be.
In fact since I've yet to see a good 386 simulator/debugger, or at least nothing that to me compares to the stuff that Atmel provides, I'm more than open to any other processor, I'm not tied to anything as I'm simply not that good to make a big difference.What I would like to find:A complete board that I can plugin in and debug, relatively cheap would be great.Debugging ability and supporting software is most important, I use a MacBook so OS X support is ideal, but I've got VMs with Windows and FreeBSD, and installing Linux is more than acceptable for the purpose if need be.
I really apprecate the simulator and debuggers the AVRStudio for Windows has, a copy of it for something more powerful would be ideal.
The AVR32 is probably the closest I'll get to that, but it doesn't seem that I can really use AVR32s on my on hardware real easy.
I can get a get a dev board for it, but throwing the chips onto something custom requires more effort than I would prefer to put into it.Processor doesn't really matter, x86 would be nice since its probably got the largest base of reference code, but pretty much anything capable of running Linux is fine since I can use that as a reference.
Linux is not a requirement as I won't be running it, it just makes a good reference to have handy when the docs for the hardware aren't all that clear or I don't really understand a particular concept.Onboard IO is pretty much a must.
Doesn't need VGA or anything, serial is plenty good enough for what I'll use it for, but  some sort of digital output is a requirement so I can control stuff.
I don't need a DAC as I can simulate one good enough to do audio as long as I have a digital pin of some sort to work with.An ADC would be nice.SPI would be really nice as I'm used to working with it and it makes MMC interfacing much easier.64k would be more than enough ram, but more is certainly acceptable.
I've been shoving 4 processes in to 2k of RAM, and if I have a MMU that supports virtual addressing I care even less, as thats really what I'd like to learn next.Speed isn't an issue, a 12mhz ATmega was plenty of my toying around so far, I'm not designing an end user OS, just playing.Onboard clock would be ideal, as I never have properly got an AVR to run on an external clock so thats obviously a concept I don't grasp properly and I'm lazy so figuring it out slows me down.So fellow geeks, where do I look to find this sort of thing, or what do you guys have experience with that you would recommend me looking into?
Something just slightly more powerful than the your typical 8bit Atmel or PIC microcontroller would be the target.Hell, I don't even have to have a board, I just don't want to get a CPU that requires a bunch of external support circuitry, something microcontrollerish that I can just hookup some power to and start interfacing.
I dont mind adding some minor stuff but I don't want to have to spend 3 days working up a board design, then debug the hardware just to get to where I can run some code, otherwise I'd throw an x86 processor on a board myself.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29952116</id>
	<title>XMBC, XLST, HTTP, XMLS, ARM, HD, BlueTooth,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257186300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>plus NASCAR, NRA, and NFL Football.</p><p>keep the entertainment addiction... while your Gulag U.S.A.  collapses into <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofi3RvwSAA8" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow"> oblivion.</a> [youtube.com]</p><p>Yours In Novorossisysk,<br>Kilgore T.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>plus NASCAR , NRA , and NFL Football.keep the entertainment addiction... while your Gulag U.S.A. collapses into oblivion .
[ youtube.com ] Yours In Novorossisysk,Kilgore T .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>plus NASCAR, NRA, and NFL Football.keep the entertainment addiction... while your Gulag U.S.A.  collapses into  oblivion.
[youtube.com]Yours In Novorossisysk,Kilgore T.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29952682</id>
	<title>No video driver for X.org</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257189360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unfortunately, the Beagle Board has a PowerVR SGX530 GPU, and there is no X.org video driver for it.  So, open source operating systems cannot use 2D or 3D acceleration.  See <a href="http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/PowerVR" title="freedesktop.org" rel="nofollow">http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/PowerVR</a> [freedesktop.org].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately , the Beagle Board has a PowerVR SGX530 GPU , and there is no X.org video driver for it .
So , open source operating systems can not use 2D or 3D acceleration .
See http : //dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/PowerVR [ freedesktop.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately, the Beagle Board has a PowerVR SGX530 GPU, and there is no X.org video driver for it.
So, open source operating systems cannot use 2D or 3D acceleration.
See http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/PowerVR [freedesktop.org].</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29954628</id>
	<title>Re:Cheapest</title>
	<author>ZZane</author>
	<datestamp>1257154740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Acer Aspire Revo.  You can pick one up for $200 at Best Buy in store or buy online at Newegg, Amazon, etc.</p><p>Specs:  Atom 230, nVidia ION LE, 1GB RAM (expandable to 2 or 3), 160GB HD, HDMI &amp; VGA, 6 USB 2.0, 1 eSATA, 1 Gigabit ethernet port, SD slot.  Pulls 65 watts max and physical size is 7.1"x7.1"x1.2".</p><p>This can play back full 1080p without dropping frames and will run XBMC or Boxee under both Windows and Linux.</p><p>I purchased one yesterday and so far I've run XBMC under Linux and Boxee under both Windows and Linux and will be sticking with Boxee running under Ubuntu 9.10.  The performance is great and currently the only down side is that flash playback isn't very good but Flash 10.1 will fix that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Acer Aspire Revo .
You can pick one up for $ 200 at Best Buy in store or buy online at Newegg , Amazon , etc.Specs : Atom 230 , nVidia ION LE , 1GB RAM ( expandable to 2 or 3 ) , 160GB HD , HDMI &amp; VGA , 6 USB 2.0 , 1 eSATA , 1 Gigabit ethernet port , SD slot .
Pulls 65 watts max and physical size is 7.1 " x7.1 " x1.2 " .This can play back full 1080p without dropping frames and will run XBMC or Boxee under both Windows and Linux.I purchased one yesterday and so far I 've run XBMC under Linux and Boxee under both Windows and Linux and will be sticking with Boxee running under Ubuntu 9.10 .
The performance is great and currently the only down side is that flash playback is n't very good but Flash 10.1 will fix that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Acer Aspire Revo.
You can pick one up for $200 at Best Buy in store or buy online at Newegg, Amazon, etc.Specs:  Atom 230, nVidia ION LE, 1GB RAM (expandable to 2 or 3), 160GB HD, HDMI &amp; VGA, 6 USB 2.0, 1 eSATA, 1 Gigabit ethernet port, SD slot.
Pulls 65 watts max and physical size is 7.1"x7.1"x1.2".This can play back full 1080p without dropping frames and will run XBMC or Boxee under both Windows and Linux.I purchased one yesterday and so far I've run XBMC under Linux and Boxee under both Windows and Linux and will be sticking with Boxee running under Ubuntu 9.10.
The performance is great and currently the only down side is that flash playback isn't very good but Flash 10.1 will fix that.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29954328</id>
	<title>Re:Cheapest</title>
	<author>Locutus</author>
	<datestamp>1257153360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>that board you linked to says that it's compatible with Intel Atom( x86 ) and so right there you are talking over 10W of power minimum.  The beagle, IIRC, runs at less than 5W so as long as you don't need it to run in your hand or run for very long in your hand, other x86 based configurations would work.<br><br>The beagleboard or more specifically the ARM Cortex-a8 boards are very powerful with little power usage. That's why they are what's in the new smartphones like the iPhone GS and Motorola Droid amongst others.<br><br>LoB</htmltext>
<tokenext>that board you linked to says that it 's compatible with Intel Atom ( x86 ) and so right there you are talking over 10W of power minimum .
The beagle , IIRC , runs at less than 5W so as long as you do n't need it to run in your hand or run for very long in your hand , other x86 based configurations would work.The beagleboard or more specifically the ARM Cortex-a8 boards are very powerful with little power usage .
That 's why they are what 's in the new smartphones like the iPhone GS and Motorola Droid amongst others.LoB</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that board you linked to says that it's compatible with Intel Atom( x86 ) and so right there you are talking over 10W of power minimum.
The beagle, IIRC, runs at less than 5W so as long as you don't need it to run in your hand or run for very long in your hand, other x86 based configurations would work.The beagleboard or more specifically the ARM Cortex-a8 boards are very powerful with little power usage.
That's why they are what's in the new smartphones like the iPhone GS and Motorola Droid amongst others.LoB</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29953642</id>
	<title>Re:Small Correction:</title>
	<author>sootman</author>
	<datestamp>1257193680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And for those who have never heard of or seen a Beagleboard, it's worth noting that it doesn't have a built-in display. So the headline should be "New XBMC Port Promises ARM-Powered HD <em>Source</em> in the Palm of Your Hand." Which is still pretty cool but I thought they were talking about something that I could hold in my hand and watch. Note to headline writers: small is great, but "fits in your hand" isn't too special unless the device is intended to be <em>used</em> while in your hand.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And for those who have never heard of or seen a Beagleboard , it 's worth noting that it does n't have a built-in display .
So the headline should be " New XBMC Port Promises ARM-Powered HD Source in the Palm of Your Hand .
" Which is still pretty cool but I thought they were talking about something that I could hold in my hand and watch .
Note to headline writers : small is great , but " fits in your hand " is n't too special unless the device is intended to be used while in your hand .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And for those who have never heard of or seen a Beagleboard, it's worth noting that it doesn't have a built-in display.
So the headline should be "New XBMC Port Promises ARM-Powered HD Source in the Palm of Your Hand.
" Which is still pretty cool but I thought they were talking about something that I could hold in my hand and watch.
Note to headline writers: small is great, but "fits in your hand" isn't too special unless the device is intended to be used while in your hand.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29958646</id>
	<title>Re:No video driver for X.org</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257174420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm still waiting for the PowerVR PCX2 Linux kernel driver so I can get Quake2 up and running on Redhat 6.</p><p>That DRI page looks pretty old, they only acknowledge 3 generations (PCX1/2 from 95-97, Neon250 from 98-99, KYRO from 00-02). This isn't very motivating for development...</p><p>PowerVR and NDAs are also another nasty selfish thing. They're even still pop secret about their very first quickly obsoleted generation of chipsets that can't even handle a blend function that isn't alpha blending.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm still waiting for the PowerVR PCX2 Linux kernel driver so I can get Quake2 up and running on Redhat 6.That DRI page looks pretty old , they only acknowledge 3 generations ( PCX1/2 from 95-97 , Neon250 from 98-99 , KYRO from 00-02 ) .
This is n't very motivating for development...PowerVR and NDAs are also another nasty selfish thing .
They 're even still pop secret about their very first quickly obsoleted generation of chipsets that ca n't even handle a blend function that is n't alpha blending .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm still waiting for the PowerVR PCX2 Linux kernel driver so I can get Quake2 up and running on Redhat 6.That DRI page looks pretty old, they only acknowledge 3 generations (PCX1/2 from 95-97, Neon250 from 98-99, KYRO from 00-02).
This isn't very motivating for development...PowerVR and NDAs are also another nasty selfish thing.
They're even still pop secret about their very first quickly obsoleted generation of chipsets that can't even handle a blend function that isn't alpha blending.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29952404</id>
	<title>=minus 3*, Troll)</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257187860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">'doing something' Gains market share distributions The time to meet Elected, we took w1n out; either the for the project. in eternity...Romeo isn't a lemonade what they think is</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>'doing something ' Gains market share distributions The time to meet Elected , we took w1n out ; either the for the project .
in eternity...Romeo is n't a lemonade what they think is [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>'doing something' Gains market share distributions The time to meet Elected, we took w1n out; either the for the project.
in eternity...Romeo isn't a lemonade what they think is [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29951714</id>
	<title>fp</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257184500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>barack obama has AIDS.</htmltext>
<tokenext>barack obama has AIDS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>barack obama has AIDS.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29952676</id>
	<title>Re:Cheapest</title>
	<author>b0bby</author>
	<datestamp>1257189360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Check out this lifehacker post:<br><a href="http://lifehacker.com/5391308/build-a-silent-standalone-xbmc-media-center-on-the-cheap" title="lifehacker.com">http://lifehacker.com/5391308/build-a-silent-standalone-xbmc-media-center-on-the-cheap</a> [lifehacker.com]<br>The Acer AspireRevo is $199 &amp; seems to do it all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Check out this lifehacker post : http : //lifehacker.com/5391308/build-a-silent-standalone-xbmc-media-center-on-the-cheap [ lifehacker.com ] The Acer AspireRevo is $ 199 &amp; seems to do it all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Check out this lifehacker post:http://lifehacker.com/5391308/build-a-silent-standalone-xbmc-media-center-on-the-cheap [lifehacker.com]The Acer AspireRevo is $199 &amp; seems to do it all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29956016</id>
	<title>Re:Cheapest</title>
	<author>blincoln</author>
	<datestamp>1257160980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I'd love to jump on upgrading from my vintage Xbox XBMC, but I'd hate to drop a few hundred on an upgrade only to find out that it plays 99\% of videos out there, but chokes on all high bit rate 1080p MKVs with lots of action, or something like that.</i></p><p>It's been 6-8 months since I last used XBMC, but back then I couldn't even get it to keep the audio and video from an AVI file in sync, it dropped frames when playing DVDs, and functions could only be mapped to a single key, not a key combination (due to the backwards way that the functions were mapped - IIRC the mapping file was by key, not by function). The UI was great for the most part, but it didn't work very well at - you know - playing videos. This was on a P4 system with 2GB of RAM, an Nvidia video chipset, and the Nvidia binary Linux driver, so performance shouldn't have been a concern. I have trouble imagining it working better on a lower-powered system.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd love to jump on upgrading from my vintage Xbox XBMC , but I 'd hate to drop a few hundred on an upgrade only to find out that it plays 99 \ % of videos out there , but chokes on all high bit rate 1080p MKVs with lots of action , or something like that.It 's been 6-8 months since I last used XBMC , but back then I could n't even get it to keep the audio and video from an AVI file in sync , it dropped frames when playing DVDs , and functions could only be mapped to a single key , not a key combination ( due to the backwards way that the functions were mapped - IIRC the mapping file was by key , not by function ) .
The UI was great for the most part , but it did n't work very well at - you know - playing videos .
This was on a P4 system with 2GB of RAM , an Nvidia video chipset , and the Nvidia binary Linux driver , so performance should n't have been a concern .
I have trouble imagining it working better on a lower-powered system .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd love to jump on upgrading from my vintage Xbox XBMC, but I'd hate to drop a few hundred on an upgrade only to find out that it plays 99\% of videos out there, but chokes on all high bit rate 1080p MKVs with lots of action, or something like that.It's been 6-8 months since I last used XBMC, but back then I couldn't even get it to keep the audio and video from an AVI file in sync, it dropped frames when playing DVDs, and functions could only be mapped to a single key, not a key combination (due to the backwards way that the functions were mapped - IIRC the mapping file was by key, not by function).
The UI was great for the most part, but it didn't work very well at - you know - playing videos.
This was on a P4 system with 2GB of RAM, an Nvidia video chipset, and the Nvidia binary Linux driver, so performance shouldn't have been a concern.
I have trouble imagining it working better on a lower-powered system.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29952694</id>
	<title>Re:Cheapest</title>
	<author>WilliamX</author>
	<datestamp>1257189420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Personally, I think this isn't a very attractive option at all.  The Beagleboard is.roughly $150?

The Zatec Ion board (Intel Atom dual core processor using Nvidia's Ion chipset) is around $172 ($190 with the powerbrick), cheaper if you go for the single core version.

And would far out perform the Beagleboard.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Personally , I think this is n't a very attractive option at all .
The Beagleboard is.roughly $ 150 ?
The Zatec Ion board ( Intel Atom dual core processor using Nvidia 's Ion chipset ) is around $ 172 ( $ 190 with the powerbrick ) , cheaper if you go for the single core version .
And would far out perform the Beagleboard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Personally, I think this isn't a very attractive option at all.
The Beagleboard is.roughly $150?
The Zatec Ion board (Intel Atom dual core processor using Nvidia's Ion chipset) is around $172 ($190 with the powerbrick), cheaper if you go for the single core version.
And would far out perform the Beagleboard.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29952026</id>
	<title>XBMC360</title>
	<author>stim</author>
	<datestamp>1257185940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But when will it run on an xbox 360?</htmltext>
<tokenext>But when will it run on an xbox 360 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But when will it run on an xbox 360?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29969354</id>
	<title>Re:This is nowhere near the cheapes media center</title>
	<author>Abcd1234</author>
	<datestamp>1257247140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, except it isn't open.  Thanks, but I prefer to go with a solution that I can hack, and these days, that means XBMC or Myth.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , except it is n't open .
Thanks , but I prefer to go with a solution that I can hack , and these days , that means XBMC or Myth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, except it isn't open.
Thanks, but I prefer to go with a solution that I can hack, and these days, that means XBMC or Myth.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29955476</id>
	<title>Re:Cheapest</title>
	<author>psbrogna</author>
	<datestamp>1257158640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's not the cheapest but the Phenom Quad Cores can actually rip a DVD and play hi-def off the hard drive at the same time. I put together a box based on one of these for around $400 (4 Gb RAM + 1 TB storage + DVD drive, used on-board everything else cause it was good 'nuf). If you've got a monster DVD collection you're looking to rip to HD it's all about how many DVDs you can feed it every night without cutting into "theater hours."</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not the cheapest but the Phenom Quad Cores can actually rip a DVD and play hi-def off the hard drive at the same time .
I put together a box based on one of these for around $ 400 ( 4 Gb RAM + 1 TB storage + DVD drive , used on-board everything else cause it was good 'nuf ) .
If you 've got a monster DVD collection you 're looking to rip to HD it 's all about how many DVDs you can feed it every night without cutting into " theater hours .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not the cheapest but the Phenom Quad Cores can actually rip a DVD and play hi-def off the hard drive at the same time.
I put together a box based on one of these for around $400 (4 Gb RAM + 1 TB storage + DVD drive, used on-board everything else cause it was good 'nuf).
If you've got a monster DVD collection you're looking to rip to HD it's all about how many DVDs you can feed it every night without cutting into "theater hours.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29952146</id>
	<title>Re:Cheapest</title>
	<author>drgould</author>
	<datestamp>1257186540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A recent Lifehacker <a href="http://lifehacker.com/5391308/build-a-silent-standalone-xbmc-media-center-on-the-cheap" title="lifehacker.com" rel="nofollow">article</a> [lifehacker.com] suggested the $200 <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883103228" title="newegg.com" rel="nofollow">Acer Aspire Revo</a> [newegg.com]. Pros: 160GB HD, HMDI output, Gigabit ethernet, reportably plays 1080p, runs XBMC. Cons: single-core, 1GB RAM, no built-in expandability, WiFi or IR.</p><p>For $320, the Revo's <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883103234" title="newegg.com" rel="nofollow">big brother</a> [newegg.com] also has dual-core, 2GB RAM and built-in WiFi.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A recent Lifehacker article [ lifehacker.com ] suggested the $ 200 Acer Aspire Revo [ newegg.com ] .
Pros : 160GB HD , HMDI output , Gigabit ethernet , reportably plays 1080p , runs XBMC .
Cons : single-core , 1GB RAM , no built-in expandability , WiFi or IR.For $ 320 , the Revo 's big brother [ newegg.com ] also has dual-core , 2GB RAM and built-in WiFi .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A recent Lifehacker article [lifehacker.com] suggested the $200 Acer Aspire Revo [newegg.com].
Pros: 160GB HD, HMDI output, Gigabit ethernet, reportably plays 1080p, runs XBMC.
Cons: single-core, 1GB RAM, no built-in expandability, WiFi or IR.For $320, the Revo's big brother [newegg.com] also has dual-core, 2GB RAM and built-in WiFi.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29951764</id>
	<title>Small Correction:</title>
	<author>lobiusmoop</author>
	<datestamp>1257184680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Beagleboard runs at 500Mhz, not 600Mhz (they underclock the processor for reliability. I have one btw)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Beagleboard runs at 500Mhz , not 600Mhz ( they underclock the processor for reliability .
I have one btw )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Beagleboard runs at 500Mhz, not 600Mhz (they underclock the processor for reliability.
I have one btw)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29952048</id>
	<title>Re:Cheapest</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257186060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This suggestion is great for downloaded media. The problem these days comes in when you try to stream HD content from Hulu or other sites. Then you can say goodbye to any semblance of hardware decoding -- you're back to relying on a beefy processor.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This suggestion is great for downloaded media .
The problem these days comes in when you try to stream HD content from Hulu or other sites .
Then you can say goodbye to any semblance of hardware decoding -- you 're back to relying on a beefy processor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This suggestion is great for downloaded media.
The problem these days comes in when you try to stream HD content from Hulu or other sites.
Then you can say goodbye to any semblance of hardware decoding -- you're back to relying on a beefy processor.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29951984</id>
	<title>Not up to the task</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257185760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>ARM gave one of my classes a presentation about the beagleboard and showed a demo.  It could barely handle 720p video, and it lagged a lot of the time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>ARM gave one of my classes a presentation about the beagleboard and showed a demo .
It could barely handle 720p video , and it lagged a lot of the time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ARM gave one of my classes a presentation about the beagleboard and showed a demo.
It could barely handle 720p video, and it lagged a lot of the time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29952802</id>
	<title>How does this compare to a Popcorn Hour?</title>
	<author>sunking2</author>
	<datestamp>1257189900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Or other network media tank? I love my IO-100 and it plays everything I have ever thrown at it. Low wattage, runs linux, excellent audio/video connectivity and is I think 300mhz mips.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or other network media tank ?
I love my IO-100 and it plays everything I have ever thrown at it .
Low wattage , runs linux , excellent audio/video connectivity and is I think 300mhz mips .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or other network media tank?
I love my IO-100 and it plays everything I have ever thrown at it.
Low wattage, runs linux, excellent audio/video connectivity and is I think 300mhz mips.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29953908</id>
	<title>This is nowhere near the cheapes media center</title>
	<author>popo</author>
	<datestamp>1257194760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>WD LIVE blows this away, and has better playback....</p><p>A much better bang for the buck.</p><p><a href="http://wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=735" title="wdc.com">http://wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=735</a> [wdc.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>WD LIVE blows this away , and has better playback....A much better bang for the buck.http : //wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp ? DriveID = 735 [ wdc.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WD LIVE blows this away, and has better playback....A much better bang for the buck.http://wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=735 [wdc.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29951996</id>
	<title>Mine cost me $85</title>
	<author>Phil Urich</author>
	<datestamp>1257185820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I just threw an NVIDIA 8400 GS 512MB PCI card into my ancient PIII 600mHz, and since I'm running Linux (Ubuntu 9.04 although I've seriously tweaked the install) XBMC just uses VDPAU to offload all the rendering to the video card.  And yes, it can do 1080p x264 video just fine, which amuses me to no end since the majority of the parts in that computer are from 1999!
<br> <br>
If you don't have a spare old computer around, or you want to buy a complete solution, basically any of the "Ion-based" nettops should be cheap, tiny and get the job done.  There's tons out there, and you can even get one from System76 that already has Ubuntu installed ( <a href="http://system76.com/product\_info.php?cPath=27&amp;products\_id=95" title="system76.com">http://system76.com/product\_info.php?cPath=27&amp;products\_id=95</a> [system76.com] ) at which point you only need to add the XBMC PPA to the repository list, click install and apply, and voila, a tiny cheap machine capable of 1080p video.  For some anecdotal evidence on how easily these setups can run you can hunt around the XBMC forums a bit.  Basically the key is just to get any kind of machine with a GeForce 8-or-later card in it, and the newer ones have even more features as far as using VDPAU is concerned.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I just threw an NVIDIA 8400 GS 512MB PCI card into my ancient PIII 600mHz , and since I 'm running Linux ( Ubuntu 9.04 although I 've seriously tweaked the install ) XBMC just uses VDPAU to offload all the rendering to the video card .
And yes , it can do 1080p x264 video just fine , which amuses me to no end since the majority of the parts in that computer are from 1999 !
If you do n't have a spare old computer around , or you want to buy a complete solution , basically any of the " Ion-based " nettops should be cheap , tiny and get the job done .
There 's tons out there , and you can even get one from System76 that already has Ubuntu installed ( http : //system76.com/product \ _info.php ? cPath = 27&amp;products \ _id = 95 [ system76.com ] ) at which point you only need to add the XBMC PPA to the repository list , click install and apply , and voila , a tiny cheap machine capable of 1080p video .
For some anecdotal evidence on how easily these setups can run you can hunt around the XBMC forums a bit .
Basically the key is just to get any kind of machine with a GeForce 8-or-later card in it , and the newer ones have even more features as far as using VDPAU is concerned .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just threw an NVIDIA 8400 GS 512MB PCI card into my ancient PIII 600mHz, and since I'm running Linux (Ubuntu 9.04 although I've seriously tweaked the install) XBMC just uses VDPAU to offload all the rendering to the video card.
And yes, it can do 1080p x264 video just fine, which amuses me to no end since the majority of the parts in that computer are from 1999!
If you don't have a spare old computer around, or you want to buy a complete solution, basically any of the "Ion-based" nettops should be cheap, tiny and get the job done.
There's tons out there, and you can even get one from System76 that already has Ubuntu installed ( http://system76.com/product\_info.php?cPath=27&amp;products\_id=95 [system76.com] ) at which point you only need to add the XBMC PPA to the repository list, click install and apply, and voila, a tiny cheap machine capable of 1080p video.
For some anecdotal evidence on how easily these setups can run you can hunt around the XBMC forums a bit.
Basically the key is just to get any kind of machine with a GeForce 8-or-later card in it, and the newer ones have even more features as far as using VDPAU is concerned.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29953076</id>
	<title>Re:fp</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257191160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>barack obama has AID<b>E</b>S.</p></div><p>FTFY.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>barack obama has AIDES.FTFY .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>barack obama has AIDES.FTFY.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29952096</id>
	<title>So....</title>
	<author>HangingChad</author>
	<datestamp>1257186240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>Is that an HD Beagleboard in your pocket, or you just happy to see me in 1080p?</i></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is that an HD Beagleboard in your pocket , or you just happy to see me in 1080p ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Is that an HD Beagleboard in your pocket, or you just happy to see me in 1080p?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29952840</id>
	<title>Re:Cheapest - Under $300</title>
	<author>ironicsky</author>
	<datestamp>1257190020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Checkout <a href="http://www.mini-box.com/" title="mini-box.com">www.mini-box.com</a> [mini-box.com]
<br>
I am building a system from them to do XBMC on my TV
<br>
The Board I am buying is this one here <a href="http://www.mini-box.com/Zotac-ION-A-U-mini-ITX-Dual-Atom-N330" title="mini-box.com">Zotac ION</a> [mini-box.com]
<ul>
 <li>WIFI Card</li><li>HDMI Out</li><li>Optical Audio Out</li><li>VGA Out / DVI Out</li></ul><p>
Slap it in a <a href="http://www.mini-box.com/M350-universal-mini-itx-enclosure" title="mini-box.com">vesa mounted cheap case</a> [mini-box.com] with a laptop hard drive and I'm done.<br>
<br>
My whole media system will be under $300, vesa mounted to the back of my TV and controlled with my existing ATI/X10 Media remote.<br>
All my cds/dvds have been backed up to my file server which has mountable network shares for XBMC to use.
<br> <br>
Long live XBMC!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Checkout www.mini-box.com [ mini-box.com ] I am building a system from them to do XBMC on my TV The Board I am buying is this one here Zotac ION [ mini-box.com ] WIFI CardHDMI OutOptical Audio OutVGA Out / DVI Out Slap it in a vesa mounted cheap case [ mini-box.com ] with a laptop hard drive and I 'm done .
My whole media system will be under $ 300 , vesa mounted to the back of my TV and controlled with my existing ATI/X10 Media remote .
All my cds/dvds have been backed up to my file server which has mountable network shares for XBMC to use .
Long live XBMC !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Checkout www.mini-box.com [mini-box.com]

I am building a system from them to do XBMC on my TV

The Board I am buying is this one here Zotac ION [mini-box.com]

 WIFI CardHDMI OutOptical Audio OutVGA Out / DVI Out
Slap it in a vesa mounted cheap case [mini-box.com] with a laptop hard drive and I'm done.
My whole media system will be under $300, vesa mounted to the back of my TV and controlled with my existing ATI/X10 Media remote.
All my cds/dvds have been backed up to my file server which has mountable network shares for XBMC to use.
Long live XBMC!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29957738</id>
	<title>Re:Cheapest</title>
	<author>aztracker1</author>
	<datestamp>1257169860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Honestly, I found lower-power AMD chips on AMD 780 or higher boards work extremely well, but you'll draw a bit more power (60-90W from my testing for a full system), lower at S3 idle.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Honestly , I found lower-power AMD chips on AMD 780 or higher boards work extremely well , but you 'll draw a bit more power ( 60-90W from my testing for a full system ) , lower at S3 idle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Honestly, I found lower-power AMD chips on AMD 780 or higher boards work extremely well, but you'll draw a bit more power (60-90W from my testing for a full system), lower at S3 idle.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29958332</id>
	<title>not so impressive</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257172800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>HD in the palm of your hand isn't so impressive.<br>I have a girlfriend in the palm of my hand!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>HD in the palm of your hand is n't so impressive.I have a girlfriend in the palm of my hand !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>HD in the palm of your hand isn't so impressive.I have a girlfriend in the palm of my hand!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29957600</id>
	<title>Re:Mine cost me $85</title>
	<author>BikeHelmet</author>
	<datestamp>1257169380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Handy tip! Great idea for making an HTPC out of old hardware.</p><p>However, I prefer to let my CPU handle the decoding, and load my GPU up with quality enhancing shaders. Since I usually watch videos on my gaming computer, CPU speed is a non-issue.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Handy tip !
Great idea for making an HTPC out of old hardware.However , I prefer to let my CPU handle the decoding , and load my GPU up with quality enhancing shaders .
Since I usually watch videos on my gaming computer , CPU speed is a non-issue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Handy tip!
Great idea for making an HTPC out of old hardware.However, I prefer to let my CPU handle the decoding, and load my GPU up with quality enhancing shaders.
Since I usually watch videos on my gaming computer, CPU speed is a non-issue.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29956478</id>
	<title>I've been looking forward to this</title>
	<author>CopaceticOpus</author>
	<datestamp>1257163500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The market is wide open right now for products like this. Imagine if someone could sell a little black box that runs XBMC and supports full HD for $100. It doesn't seem that far off. It doesn't need to have storage or memory or any sort of drive. The main connectivity option would be ethernet, for connecting over the LAN to a PC which holds all the content. A USB port would also be nice to support an external hard drive, a flash drive stick, and/or a wireless adapter.</p><p>(I know there are already similar products. I currently run XBMC on an Xbox, and I have a PS3. However, the Xbox doesn't handle HD video, and the PS3 has a poor interface and lacks support for some formats. I'm waiting for that simple, cheap, does-it-all option to finally arrive.)</p><p>I'd also love to see something similar just for audio. Imagine a little box with just an ethernet connection and an audio output. It would connect to a media server which would stream music to it, and then output that music to some powered speakers or to any sort of device. The music could be controlled by any device on the local network with web access to the media server. It could be a nearby computer, or a phone with a web browser and wifi.</p><p>This would give you something like the Sonos multi-room system. But instead of spending over $1000, you could spend under $100. If a person already has a server and a LAN set up, they can use that rather than buying expensive new equipment.</p><p>How expensive could it be to make a little box which connects to a LAN and outputs audio? Twenty bucks? You could buy just one to have audio for your kitchen, or buy several and set up your entire home.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The market is wide open right now for products like this .
Imagine if someone could sell a little black box that runs XBMC and supports full HD for $ 100 .
It does n't seem that far off .
It does n't need to have storage or memory or any sort of drive .
The main connectivity option would be ethernet , for connecting over the LAN to a PC which holds all the content .
A USB port would also be nice to support an external hard drive , a flash drive stick , and/or a wireless adapter .
( I know there are already similar products .
I currently run XBMC on an Xbox , and I have a PS3 .
However , the Xbox does n't handle HD video , and the PS3 has a poor interface and lacks support for some formats .
I 'm waiting for that simple , cheap , does-it-all option to finally arrive .
) I 'd also love to see something similar just for audio .
Imagine a little box with just an ethernet connection and an audio output .
It would connect to a media server which would stream music to it , and then output that music to some powered speakers or to any sort of device .
The music could be controlled by any device on the local network with web access to the media server .
It could be a nearby computer , or a phone with a web browser and wifi.This would give you something like the Sonos multi-room system .
But instead of spending over $ 1000 , you could spend under $ 100 .
If a person already has a server and a LAN set up , they can use that rather than buying expensive new equipment.How expensive could it be to make a little box which connects to a LAN and outputs audio ?
Twenty bucks ?
You could buy just one to have audio for your kitchen , or buy several and set up your entire home .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The market is wide open right now for products like this.
Imagine if someone could sell a little black box that runs XBMC and supports full HD for $100.
It doesn't seem that far off.
It doesn't need to have storage or memory or any sort of drive.
The main connectivity option would be ethernet, for connecting over the LAN to a PC which holds all the content.
A USB port would also be nice to support an external hard drive, a flash drive stick, and/or a wireless adapter.
(I know there are already similar products.
I currently run XBMC on an Xbox, and I have a PS3.
However, the Xbox doesn't handle HD video, and the PS3 has a poor interface and lacks support for some formats.
I'm waiting for that simple, cheap, does-it-all option to finally arrive.
)I'd also love to see something similar just for audio.
Imagine a little box with just an ethernet connection and an audio output.
It would connect to a media server which would stream music to it, and then output that music to some powered speakers or to any sort of device.
The music could be controlled by any device on the local network with web access to the media server.
It could be a nearby computer, or a phone with a web browser and wifi.This would give you something like the Sonos multi-room system.
But instead of spending over $1000, you could spend under $100.
If a person already has a server and a LAN set up, they can use that rather than buying expensive new equipment.How expensive could it be to make a little box which connects to a LAN and outputs audio?
Twenty bucks?
You could buy just one to have audio for your kitchen, or buy several and set up your entire home.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29956672</id>
	<title>Re:Cheapest</title>
	<author>OrangeTide</author>
	<datestamp>1257164700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you have to add RAM and flash or a hdd to get the mini-itx board going. The beagleboard has all that. So you're probably off by about $50 on the real cost of a Zantac w/ NVidia ION.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you have to add RAM and flash or a hdd to get the mini-itx board going .
The beagleboard has all that .
So you 're probably off by about $ 50 on the real cost of a Zantac w/ NVidia ION .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you have to add RAM and flash or a hdd to get the mini-itx board going.
The beagleboard has all that.
So you're probably off by about $50 on the real cost of a Zantac w/ NVidia ION.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1549235.29953138</id>
	<title>Re:XBMC360</title>
	<author>tolan-b</author>
	<datestamp>1257191460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It does now, after a fashion:</p><p><a href="http://www.ps3news.com/XBox-360/video-xbmc-running-on-xbox-360-ubuntu-by-team-cygnos/" title="ps3news.com">http://www.ps3news.com/XBox-360/video-xbmc-running-on-xbox-360-ubuntu-by-team-cygnos/</a> [ps3news.com]</p><p>but it's not usable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It does now , after a fashion : http : //www.ps3news.com/XBox-360/video-xbmc-running-on-xbox-360-ubuntu-by-team-cygnos/ [ ps3news.com ] but it 's not usable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It does now, after a fashion:http://www.ps3news.com/XBox-360/video-xbmc-running-on-xbox-360-ubuntu-by-team-cygnos/ [ps3news.com]but it's not usable.</sentencetext>
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