<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_02_0734253</id>
	<title>Transpacific Unity Fiber Optic Cable Leaves Japan</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1257167520000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>JoshuaInNippon writes <i>"The 10,000 km (6,200 mile) long Unity fiber optic cable, funded by Google and five East Asian communication companies, <a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-16352-Japan-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m11d1-Googles-Pacific-fiber-optic-cable-departs-from-Japan">left Japanese shores on November 1st to be laid along the northern Pacific Ocean floor</a>.  The Japanese end of the cable is expected to be fused to the American end sometime around November 11th.  The cable, which was <a href="http://www.google.com/intl/en/press/pressrel/20080225\_newcablesystem.html">announced in February of 2008</a> at a cost of around $300 million USD, has the theoretical capacity of 7.68 Tbps, but will be set at a capacity of about 4.8 Tbps (supposedly equivalent to about 75 million simultaneous phone calls) during its initial use.  When Unity begins full operation sometime early next year, it is projected to increase internet traffic capacity between the two regions by over 20\%, a wonderful boost to transpacific relations!"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>JoshuaInNippon writes " The 10,000 km ( 6,200 mile ) long Unity fiber optic cable , funded by Google and five East Asian communication companies , left Japanese shores on November 1st to be laid along the northern Pacific Ocean floor .
The Japanese end of the cable is expected to be fused to the American end sometime around November 11th .
The cable , which was announced in February of 2008 at a cost of around $ 300 million USD , has the theoretical capacity of 7.68 Tbps , but will be set at a capacity of about 4.8 Tbps ( supposedly equivalent to about 75 million simultaneous phone calls ) during its initial use .
When Unity begins full operation sometime early next year , it is projected to increase internet traffic capacity between the two regions by over 20 \ % , a wonderful boost to transpacific relations !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>JoshuaInNippon writes "The 10,000 km (6,200 mile) long Unity fiber optic cable, funded by Google and five East Asian communication companies, left Japanese shores on November 1st to be laid along the northern Pacific Ocean floor.
The Japanese end of the cable is expected to be fused to the American end sometime around November 11th.
The cable, which was announced in February of 2008 at a cost of around $300 million USD, has the theoretical capacity of 7.68 Tbps, but will be set at a capacity of about 4.8 Tbps (supposedly equivalent to about 75 million simultaneous phone calls) during its initial use.
When Unity begins full operation sometime early next year, it is projected to increase internet traffic capacity between the two regions by over 20\%, a wonderful boost to transpacific relations!
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949982</id>
	<title>More fiber</title>
	<author>Yvan256</author>
	<datestamp>1257176040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't that also what the bread companies keep trying to sell us?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't that also what the bread companies keep trying to sell us ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't that also what the bread companies keep trying to sell us?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29950774</id>
	<title>Re:Yes!</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1257180420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It will be the longest tentacle ever to be related to porn!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It will be the longest tentacle ever to be related to porn !
: D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It will be the longest tentacle ever to be related to porn!
:D</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29951222</id>
	<title>Re:How does that work, exactly?</title>
	<author>fortyonejb</author>
	<datestamp>1257182340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>On the satellite question, why are satellites a distant second?  Well, the answer is right there, distance.  Geostationary satellites orbit at 35,000 KM above the earth.  So, if you wanted to send a signal from california to the satellite and have the satellite send it to Japan (assuming one satellite positioned perfectly could hit both locations) you'd at a MINIMUM have to travel 70,000 KM.  that is 7 times the distance that a signal travels on the undersea line.  I think it is pretty self explanatory from there.</htmltext>
<tokenext>On the satellite question , why are satellites a distant second ?
Well , the answer is right there , distance .
Geostationary satellites orbit at 35,000 KM above the earth .
So , if you wanted to send a signal from california to the satellite and have the satellite send it to Japan ( assuming one satellite positioned perfectly could hit both locations ) you 'd at a MINIMUM have to travel 70,000 KM .
that is 7 times the distance that a signal travels on the undersea line .
I think it is pretty self explanatory from there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the satellite question, why are satellites a distant second?
Well, the answer is right there, distance.
Geostationary satellites orbit at 35,000 KM above the earth.
So, if you wanted to send a signal from california to the satellite and have the satellite send it to Japan (assuming one satellite positioned perfectly could hit both locations) you'd at a MINIMUM have to travel 70,000 KM.
that is 7 times the distance that a signal travels on the undersea line.
I think it is pretty self explanatory from there.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29951454</id>
	<title>Yea! Faster Far East Outsourcing!!!!</title>
	<author>mediis</author>
	<datestamp>1257183420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can't wait for the job postings once this mother is turned up to full!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't wait for the job postings once this mother is turned up to full !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't wait for the job postings once this mother is turned up to full!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29950518</id>
	<title>20\% more spam</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257179160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Fantastic, now we'll see 20\% more spam as a result of this too. Thanks Google.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fantastic , now we 'll see 20 \ % more spam as a result of this too .
Thanks Google .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fantastic, now we'll see 20\% more spam as a result of this too.
Thanks Google.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949450</id>
	<title>Surprisingly small sounding numbers</title>
	<author>Ginger Unicorn</author>
	<datestamp>1257172200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>For some reason 4.8 terabits/s doesn't sound like that much to me. Obviously it must be since it's boosting traffic by 20\% but intuitively I would have imagined another 2 or 3 orders of magnitude for an inter-continental link.</htmltext>
<tokenext>For some reason 4.8 terabits/s does n't sound like that much to me .
Obviously it must be since it 's boosting traffic by 20 \ % but intuitively I would have imagined another 2 or 3 orders of magnitude for an inter-continental link .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For some reason 4.8 terabits/s doesn't sound like that much to me.
Obviously it must be since it's boosting traffic by 20\% but intuitively I would have imagined another 2 or 3 orders of magnitude for an inter-continental link.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949916</id>
	<title>Copper</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257175620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>"The cable<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... has the theoretical capacity of 7.68 Tbps, but will be set at a capacity of about 4.8 Tbps (supposedly equivalent to about 75 million simultaneous phone calls) during its initial use."</i> </p><p>

We've come a long way from copper telegraph lines.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" The cable ... has the theoretical capacity of 7.68 Tbps , but will be set at a capacity of about 4.8 Tbps ( supposedly equivalent to about 75 million simultaneous phone calls ) during its initial use .
" We 've come a long way from copper telegraph lines .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> "The cable ... has the theoretical capacity of 7.68 Tbps, but will be set at a capacity of about 4.8 Tbps (supposedly equivalent to about 75 million simultaneous phone calls) during its initial use.
" 

We've come a long way from copper telegraph lines.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949374</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257171360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>this article gave me a real boast</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>this article gave me a real boast</tokentext>
<sentencetext>this article gave me a real boast</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949674</id>
	<title>Re:How does that work, exactly?</title>
	<author>jeffmeden</author>
	<datestamp>1257174180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wikipedia, pfffft.  I learned all I need to know about Trans Oceanic Fiber Optic cables in 56 short pages thanks to Neal Stephenson... <a href="http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/ffglass.html" title="wired.com">http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/ffglass.html</a> [wired.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wikipedia , pfffft .
I learned all I need to know about Trans Oceanic Fiber Optic cables in 56 short pages thanks to Neal Stephenson... http : //www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/ffglass.html [ wired.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wikipedia, pfffft.
I learned all I need to know about Trans Oceanic Fiber Optic cables in 56 short pages thanks to Neal Stephenson... http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/ffglass.html [wired.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29951520</id>
	<title>Re:Surprisingly small sounding numbers</title>
	<author>Shatrat</author>
	<datestamp>1257183720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I work in Fiber.<br>10gbit/s is the standard for high speed links, that'd be OC-192 or 10G Ethernet. 40gbit/s is out there for early adopters.<br>From some quick math I'm guessing it's 256 fiber cable with 122 40gbit/s links using repeaters and a half dozen pairs held in reserve for when a link goes bad.<br>It could be a few hundred 10gbit/s links over some form of WDM with amplifiers, though I doubt it because of the dispersion problems over this kind of distance.<br>I don't work with undesea fiber but I can assure you that this is a ton of capacity. <br>4.8 terabit/s will actually easily carry over 80 million 64kbit/s T0 voice lines, TFSummary is actually on the conservative side.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I work in Fiber.10gbit/s is the standard for high speed links , that 'd be OC-192 or 10G Ethernet .
40gbit/s is out there for early adopters.From some quick math I 'm guessing it 's 256 fiber cable with 122 40gbit/s links using repeaters and a half dozen pairs held in reserve for when a link goes bad.It could be a few hundred 10gbit/s links over some form of WDM with amplifiers , though I doubt it because of the dispersion problems over this kind of distance.I do n't work with undesea fiber but I can assure you that this is a ton of capacity .
4.8 terabit/s will actually easily carry over 80 million 64kbit/s T0 voice lines , TFSummary is actually on the conservative side .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work in Fiber.10gbit/s is the standard for high speed links, that'd be OC-192 or 10G Ethernet.
40gbit/s is out there for early adopters.From some quick math I'm guessing it's 256 fiber cable with 122 40gbit/s links using repeaters and a half dozen pairs held in reserve for when a link goes bad.It could be a few hundred 10gbit/s links over some form of WDM with amplifiers, though I doubt it because of the dispersion problems over this kind of distance.I don't work with undesea fiber but I can assure you that this is a ton of capacity.
4.8 terabit/s will actually easily carry over 80 million 64kbit/s T0 voice lines, TFSummary is actually on the conservative side.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949440</id>
	<title>Faster Access To Hulu!</title>
	<author>corsec67</author>
	<datestamp>1257172200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sweet, this will give me faster access to Hulu, Slacker, and all of the nice American websites.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sweet , this will give me faster access to Hulu , Slacker , and all of the nice American websites .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sweet, this will give me faster access to Hulu, Slacker, and all of the nice American websites.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29950088</id>
	<title>Re:Obligatory Stephenson Wired article</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257176640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was just purging a bunch of old Wired magazines.  And I found this issue.  I will save this one for ever!<br>The issue is a stark contrast to the wimpy magazine that Wired has become.  That issue, with Stephenson's long superb article, is almost 300 pages long, more than twice the current issues.  The November issue before it was also 300 pages with Bruce Sterling's Burning man article.  Such great writing, such massive content.  Where is it now?</p><p>
&nbsp; Oh how the mighty have fallen !</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was just purging a bunch of old Wired magazines .
And I found this issue .
I will save this one for ever ! The issue is a stark contrast to the wimpy magazine that Wired has become .
That issue , with Stephenson 's long superb article , is almost 300 pages long , more than twice the current issues .
The November issue before it was also 300 pages with Bruce Sterling 's Burning man article .
Such great writing , such massive content .
Where is it now ?
  Oh how the mighty have fallen !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was just purging a bunch of old Wired magazines.
And I found this issue.
I will save this one for ever!The issue is a stark contrast to the wimpy magazine that Wired has become.
That issue, with Stephenson's long superb article, is almost 300 pages long, more than twice the current issues.
The November issue before it was also 300 pages with Bruce Sterling's Burning man article.
Such great writing, such massive content.
Where is it now?
  Oh how the mighty have fallen !</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29950842</id>
	<title>Re:Dam</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1257180660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But, as a friend of mine described fucking a girl: It's like throwing a salami in a corridor!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But , as a friend of mine described fucking a girl : It 's like throwing a salami in a corridor !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But, as a friend of mine described fucking a girl: It's like throwing a salami in a corridor!</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29950672</id>
	<title>Re:Surprisingly small sounding numbers</title>
	<author>Shados</author>
	<datestamp>1257179940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Traffic between east asian regions and the americas has always been extremely limited, and expensive. Honestly, as soon as you leave your own ISP's territory, traffic starts being very limited. This is helped by the fact that ISPs have deals between them to even out the cost, and that the vast majority of traffic stays in house, on top of having bigger content providers replicate their stuff around the world (google, youtube, microsoft, akamai...), but if it wasn't for that, Google or Microsoft alone would saturate many international pipes, nevermind the whole internet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Traffic between east asian regions and the americas has always been extremely limited , and expensive .
Honestly , as soon as you leave your own ISP 's territory , traffic starts being very limited .
This is helped by the fact that ISPs have deals between them to even out the cost , and that the vast majority of traffic stays in house , on top of having bigger content providers replicate their stuff around the world ( google , youtube , microsoft , akamai... ) , but if it was n't for that , Google or Microsoft alone would saturate many international pipes , nevermind the whole internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Traffic between east asian regions and the americas has always been extremely limited, and expensive.
Honestly, as soon as you leave your own ISP's territory, traffic starts being very limited.
This is helped by the fact that ISPs have deals between them to even out the cost, and that the vast majority of traffic stays in house, on top of having bigger content providers replicate their stuff around the world (google, youtube, microsoft, akamai...), but if it wasn't for that, Google or Microsoft alone would saturate many international pipes, nevermind the whole internet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949580</id>
	<title>Re:Surprisingly small sounding numbers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257173460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tell that to Law enforcement - the tapping eqipments farm is going to blow someones budget.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tell that to Law enforcement - the tapping eqipments farm is going to blow someones budget .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tell that to Law enforcement - the tapping eqipments farm is going to blow someones budget.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949748</id>
	<title>More Asian spam volume?</title>
	<author>swb</author>
	<datestamp>1257174780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is that what this is for?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is that what this is for ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is that what this is for?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29953556</id>
	<title>Re:How does that work, exactly?</title>
	<author>sootman</author>
	<datestamp>1257193320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One of my favorite things <i>Wired</i> ever published. I liked it so much I made a map to go along with it since Neal was kind enough to supply GPS coordinates in the article. <a href="http://visualcompanion.org/Map\_-\_Mother\_Earth\_Mother\_Board.php" title="visualcompanion.org">http://visualcompanion.org/Map\_-\_Mother\_Earth\_Mother\_Board.php</a> [visualcompanion.org]</p><p>Particularly neat (to me) was to see the cove of the Museum of Submarine Telegraphy, Porthcurno, Cornwall exactly as he described it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One of my favorite things Wired ever published .
I liked it so much I made a map to go along with it since Neal was kind enough to supply GPS coordinates in the article .
http : //visualcompanion.org/Map \ _- \ _Mother \ _Earth \ _Mother \ _Board.php [ visualcompanion.org ] Particularly neat ( to me ) was to see the cove of the Museum of Submarine Telegraphy , Porthcurno , Cornwall exactly as he described it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of my favorite things Wired ever published.
I liked it so much I made a map to go along with it since Neal was kind enough to supply GPS coordinates in the article.
http://visualcompanion.org/Map\_-\_Mother\_Earth\_Mother\_Board.php [visualcompanion.org]Particularly neat (to me) was to see the cove of the Museum of Submarine Telegraphy, Porthcurno, Cornwall exactly as he described it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29950292</id>
	<title>BitTorrent</title>
	<author>berny@work</author>
	<datestamp>1257177780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And the cable will be full of BitTorrent traffic in 5..4..3...2.. There we go!</p><p>Upgrade time again!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And the cable will be full of BitTorrent traffic in 5..4..3...2.. There we go ! Upgrade time again !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And the cable will be full of BitTorrent traffic in 5..4..3...2.. There we go!Upgrade time again!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949494</id>
	<title>Re:How does that work, exactly?</title>
	<author>BradleyUffner</author>
	<datestamp>1257172680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wikipedia has some great pictures of the different layers of undersea cables.<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine\_communications\_cable" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine\_communications\_cable</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wikipedia has some great pictures of the different layers of undersea cables.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine \ _communications \ _cable [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wikipedia has some great pictures of the different layers of undersea cables.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine\_communications\_cable [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29952054</id>
	<title>Re:How does that work, exactly?</title>
	<author>david.given</author>
	<datestamp>1257186060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is a perfect opportunity to plug Neal Stephenson's excellent essay on fibre-optic cables: <a href="http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/ffglass\_pr.html" title="wired.com">Mother Earth, Mother Board</a> [wired.com]. It's well worth reading, being gripping, easy to get into, endlessly fascinating, and funny --- all the qualities that essays on cable laying usually aren't. He answers all your questions and more. (It also turned into research for <i>Cryptonomicon</i>.)

</p><p>The short answers to your questions, though, are yes, yes, and <i>by being very clever</i>, respectively.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a perfect opportunity to plug Neal Stephenson 's excellent essay on fibre-optic cables : Mother Earth , Mother Board [ wired.com ] .
It 's well worth reading , being gripping , easy to get into , endlessly fascinating , and funny --- all the qualities that essays on cable laying usually are n't .
He answers all your questions and more .
( It also turned into research for Cryptonomicon .
) The short answers to your questions , though , are yes , yes , and by being very clever , respectively .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a perfect opportunity to plug Neal Stephenson's excellent essay on fibre-optic cables: Mother Earth, Mother Board [wired.com].
It's well worth reading, being gripping, easy to get into, endlessly fascinating, and funny --- all the qualities that essays on cable laying usually aren't.
He answers all your questions and more.
(It also turned into research for Cryptonomicon.
)

The short answers to your questions, though, are yes, yes, and by being very clever, respectively.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29959536</id>
	<title>Higher capacity fiber...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257180840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does this mean we will upgrade to Haiku v2.0?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does this mean we will upgrade to Haiku v2.0 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does this mean we will upgrade to Haiku v2.0?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949484</id>
	<title>Re:How does that work, exactly?</title>
	<author>UnHolier than ever</author>
	<datestamp>1257172620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine\_communications\_cable#Optical\_telephone\_cables" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine\_communications\_cable#Optical\_telephone\_cables</a> [wikipedia.org]
<br> <br>

Yes, you need repeaters every 100km or so, which are powered through the cable by DC current.
<br> <br>
Other than that, I think it just lays in the bottom, yes. These are sturdy cable, they weigh about 10 kg/m.</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine \ _communications \ _cable # Optical \ _telephone \ _cables [ wikipedia.org ] Yes , you need repeaters every 100km or so , which are powered through the cable by DC current .
Other than that , I think it just lays in the bottom , yes .
These are sturdy cable , they weigh about 10 kg/m .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine\_communications\_cable#Optical\_telephone\_cables [wikipedia.org]
 

Yes, you need repeaters every 100km or so, which are powered through the cable by DC current.
Other than that, I think it just lays in the bottom, yes.
These are sturdy cable, they weigh about 10 kg/m.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29951102</id>
	<title>Re:How does that work, exactly?</title>
	<author>petermgreen</author>
	<datestamp>1257181860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>On the other hand, you can get to pretty much anywhere on the planet within 50ms with a cable. (In theory, disregarding delay at routing, and non-direct routes.)</i><br>Lets assume that light in a fiber travels at 2x10^8 m/s (light travels slower in fiber than in free space though i'm not sure how much slower offhand), according to wikipedia the earths cicumfrence is about 4x10^7 m, so halfway round the world would be 2x10^7 m.</p><p>so to get halfway arround the world would take about 100ms minimum, the round trip time (the mopst common means of measuring latency in the IT field) will be double that figure (e.g. 200ms minium).</p><p>Still much better than satelite though, a link via geostationary sattelite will add a minimum of about 400ms to the round trip time and in practice it may be much worse depending on how media access control is handled. Non geostationary satalites can avoid this but they have other problems.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On the other hand , you can get to pretty much anywhere on the planet within 50ms with a cable .
( In theory , disregarding delay at routing , and non-direct routes .
) Lets assume that light in a fiber travels at 2x10 ^ 8 m/s ( light travels slower in fiber than in free space though i 'm not sure how much slower offhand ) , according to wikipedia the earths cicumfrence is about 4x10 ^ 7 m , so halfway round the world would be 2x10 ^ 7 m.so to get halfway arround the world would take about 100ms minimum , the round trip time ( the mopst common means of measuring latency in the IT field ) will be double that figure ( e.g .
200ms minium ) .Still much better than satelite though , a link via geostationary sattelite will add a minimum of about 400ms to the round trip time and in practice it may be much worse depending on how media access control is handled .
Non geostationary satalites can avoid this but they have other problems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the other hand, you can get to pretty much anywhere on the planet within 50ms with a cable.
(In theory, disregarding delay at routing, and non-direct routes.
)Lets assume that light in a fiber travels at 2x10^8 m/s (light travels slower in fiber than in free space though i'm not sure how much slower offhand), according to wikipedia the earths cicumfrence is about 4x10^7 m, so halfway round the world would be 2x10^7 m.so to get halfway arround the world would take about 100ms minimum, the round trip time (the mopst common means of measuring latency in the IT field) will be double that figure (e.g.
200ms minium).Still much better than satelite though, a link via geostationary sattelite will add a minimum of about 400ms to the round trip time and in practice it may be much worse depending on how media access control is handled.
Non geostationary satalites can avoid this but they have other problems.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949690</id>
	<title>Re:Yes!</title>
	<author>houghi</author>
	<datestamp>1257174360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That would be the case if one part would still be in Japan. However the cable left Japan, which must mean both sides (and everything in the middle) is ouside of Japan.</p><p>(Yes, I only read the subject, why?)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That would be the case if one part would still be in Japan .
However the cable left Japan , which must mean both sides ( and everything in the middle ) is ouside of Japan .
( Yes , I only read the subject , why ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That would be the case if one part would still be in Japan.
However the cable left Japan, which must mean both sides (and everything in the middle) is ouside of Japan.
(Yes, I only read the subject, why?
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29952572</id>
	<title>I thought...</title>
	<author>SnarfQuest</author>
	<datestamp>1257188760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought all these things went TO Japan, not from it. you know, Godzilla, Mothra, etc.<br>Have thay gotten pissed off enough that their sending out their own Transpacific Unity Fiber Optic Cable? Couldn't they have thought of a better and shorter name, like Transpa? It sounds like it doesn't even have atomic breath. What kind of a cheap monster is this, anyway?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought all these things went TO Japan , not from it .
you know , Godzilla , Mothra , etc.Have thay gotten pissed off enough that their sending out their own Transpacific Unity Fiber Optic Cable ?
Could n't they have thought of a better and shorter name , like Transpa ?
It sounds like it does n't even have atomic breath .
What kind of a cheap monster is this , anyway ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought all these things went TO Japan, not from it.
you know, Godzilla, Mothra, etc.Have thay gotten pissed off enough that their sending out their own Transpacific Unity Fiber Optic Cable?
Couldn't they have thought of a better and shorter name, like Transpa?
It sounds like it doesn't even have atomic breath.
What kind of a cheap monster is this, anyway?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949380</id>
	<title>Yeah but</title>
	<author>TreyGeek</author>
	<datestamp>1257171420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"it is projected to increase internet traffic capacity between the two regions by over 20\%, a wonderful boast to transpacific relations!"
<br>
<br>That is until a ship drops anchor on top of it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" it is projected to increase internet traffic capacity between the two regions by over 20 \ % , a wonderful boast to transpacific relations !
" That is until a ship drops anchor on top of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"it is projected to increase internet traffic capacity between the two regions by over 20\%, a wonderful boast to transpacific relations!
"

That is until a ship drops anchor on top of it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29960442</id>
	<title>Re:How does that work, exactly?</title>
	<author>rdnetto</author>
	<datestamp>1257189000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Page 1 of 56</p> </div><p>OK, this is starting to get ridiculous...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Page 1 of 56 OK , this is starting to get ridiculous.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Page 1 of 56 OK, this is starting to get ridiculous...
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949536</id>
	<title>Random Article in Wikipedia</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257173100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A few days ago I pressed Random Article in Wikipedia, and ended up at gokkun. I wish I had not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A few days ago I pressed Random Article in Wikipedia , and ended up at gokkun .
I wish I had not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A few days ago I pressed Random Article in Wikipedia, and ended up at gokkun.
I wish I had not.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949492</id>
	<title>More reduncancy is good...</title>
	<author>John Hasler</author>
	<datestamp>1257172620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...but it would be nice to have the landings more widely distributed, especially on the US Atlantic coast.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...but it would be nice to have the landings more widely distributed , especially on the US Atlantic coast .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...but it would be nice to have the landings more widely distributed, especially on the US Atlantic coast.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949870</id>
	<title>Megalodon</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257175320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They better watch out while laying that cable or they're going to attract the Megalodon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They better watch out while laying that cable or they 're going to attract the Megalodon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They better watch out while laying that cable or they're going to attract the Megalodon.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29950862</id>
	<title>Re:Surprisingly small sounding numbers</title>
	<author>bored\_lurker</author>
	<datestamp>1257180780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The reason it is smaller than you would think is a thing called reachability. While I do not work with submarine cables I have been doing fiber optic equipment for about 20 years. From a metro perspective the numbers seem small given DWDM systems that can achieve many channels of 40G and 100G but there are limitations particularly related to distance. I really am not sure what the amps are (I would guess mostly EDFAs and RAMAN amps plus some back to back amps for regen to clean the signal up) but the higher the speeds the shorter the distance and more amps are needed. All of this adds complexity in an inhospitable environment and greatly adds to the cost.</p><p>If anything surprises me about this article is the cost - $300 million seems a bit cheap for the fiber (in an armored submarine cable), transmission equipment, and labor to lay a 10,000 km cable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The reason it is smaller than you would think is a thing called reachability .
While I do not work with submarine cables I have been doing fiber optic equipment for about 20 years .
From a metro perspective the numbers seem small given DWDM systems that can achieve many channels of 40G and 100G but there are limitations particularly related to distance .
I really am not sure what the amps are ( I would guess mostly EDFAs and RAMAN amps plus some back to back amps for regen to clean the signal up ) but the higher the speeds the shorter the distance and more amps are needed .
All of this adds complexity in an inhospitable environment and greatly adds to the cost.If anything surprises me about this article is the cost - $ 300 million seems a bit cheap for the fiber ( in an armored submarine cable ) , transmission equipment , and labor to lay a 10,000 km cable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The reason it is smaller than you would think is a thing called reachability.
While I do not work with submarine cables I have been doing fiber optic equipment for about 20 years.
From a metro perspective the numbers seem small given DWDM systems that can achieve many channels of 40G and 100G but there are limitations particularly related to distance.
I really am not sure what the amps are (I would guess mostly EDFAs and RAMAN amps plus some back to back amps for regen to clean the signal up) but the higher the speeds the shorter the distance and more amps are needed.
All of this adds complexity in an inhospitable environment and greatly adds to the cost.If anything surprises me about this article is the cost - $300 million seems a bit cheap for the fiber (in an armored submarine cable), transmission equipment, and labor to lay a 10,000 km cable.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29950006</id>
	<title>Re:Great Firewall...</title>
	<author>Yvan256</author>
	<datestamp>1257176160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know which parallel universe you're from, but in this one Japan isn't part of China.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know which parallel universe you 're from , but in this one Japan is n't part of China .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know which parallel universe you're from, but in this one Japan isn't part of China.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949582</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29953922</id>
	<title>Re:How does that work, exactly?</title>
	<author>Matt\_R</author>
	<datestamp>1257194760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>take a look at <a href="http://www.pipeinternational.com/" title="pipeinternational.com">http://www.pipeinternational.com/</a> [pipeinternational.com] - a blog site by the company that recently laid a cable from Sydney to Guam</htmltext>
<tokenext>take a look at http : //www.pipeinternational.com/ [ pipeinternational.com ] - a blog site by the company that recently laid a cable from Sydney to Guam</tokentext>
<sentencetext>take a look at http://www.pipeinternational.com/ [pipeinternational.com] - a blog site by the company that recently laid a cable from Sydney to Guam</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949660</id>
	<title>10,000 km in 10 days!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257174120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's a fair clip. No wonder fiber beats satellite.  A ton of bandwidth, low latency and only ten days to install.  A satellite must still take the better part of a day to install from launch at least.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's a fair clip .
No wonder fiber beats satellite .
A ton of bandwidth , low latency and only ten days to install .
A satellite must still take the better part of a day to install from launch at least .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's a fair clip.
No wonder fiber beats satellite.
A ton of bandwidth, low latency and only ten days to install.
A satellite must still take the better part of a day to install from launch at least.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29950182</id>
	<title>I need easier to understand units</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257177180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How many Library of Congress per second does it equal?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How many Library of Congress per second does it equal ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many Library of Congress per second does it equal?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949590</id>
	<title>Re:Yes!</title>
	<author>ZarathustraDK</author>
	<datestamp>1257173520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>American women beware! There's a loooong tentacle coming your way!</htmltext>
<tokenext>American women beware !
There 's a loooong tentacle coming your way !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>American women beware!
There's a loooong tentacle coming your way!</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29950894</id>
	<title>This is Google's Glomar Explorer</title>
	<author>turtleshadow</author>
	<datestamp>1257180900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think this is just Google's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USNS\_Glomar\_Explorer\_(T-AG-193)" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Glomar Explorer</a> [wikipedia.org]. I'm sure they are not interested at all to be mining all those data packets for intel. This is a complete altruistic - do no evil - venture to improve transatlantic relations</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think this is just Google 's Glomar Explorer [ wikipedia.org ] .
I 'm sure they are not interested at all to be mining all those data packets for intel .
This is a complete altruistic - do no evil - venture to improve transatlantic relations</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think this is just Google's Glomar Explorer [wikipedia.org].
I'm sure they are not interested at all to be mining all those data packets for intel.
This is a complete altruistic - do no evil - venture to improve transatlantic relations</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29961908</id>
	<title>Hello Kitty!</title>
	<author>Geotopia</author>
	<datestamp>1257251460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are these dates real? The leave Japan on 1 November and get to the US by 11 November?! I waited 5 years for 1Mbps DSL in my neighborhood and that was only 20,000 feet from the CO, and these guys can move 4.8Tbps a thousand miles in 10 days?!</p><p>The cost is pretty good too. $300M is only 3/100 of 1\% of the $787B stimulus package. I think Google got a much better deal all around that the American tax payer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are these dates real ?
The leave Japan on 1 November and get to the US by 11 November ? !
I waited 5 years for 1Mbps DSL in my neighborhood and that was only 20,000 feet from the CO , and these guys can move 4.8Tbps a thousand miles in 10 days ?
! The cost is pretty good too .
$ 300M is only 3/100 of 1 \ % of the $ 787B stimulus package .
I think Google got a much better deal all around that the American tax payer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are these dates real?
The leave Japan on 1 November and get to the US by 11 November?!
I waited 5 years for 1Mbps DSL in my neighborhood and that was only 20,000 feet from the CO, and these guys can move 4.8Tbps a thousand miles in 10 days?
!The cost is pretty good too.
$300M is only 3/100 of 1\% of the $787B stimulus package.
I think Google got a much better deal all around that the American tax payer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949392</id>
	<title>paging Neal Stephenson</title>
	<author>Gothmolly</author>
	<datestamp>1257171600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Didn't I read something about this in the Crytonomicon ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did n't I read something about this in the Crytonomicon ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Didn't I read something about this in the Crytonomicon ?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29950056</id>
	<title>Re:How does that work, exactly?</title>
	<author>sponga</author>
	<datestamp>1257176520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah screw the article, here is a video and they speak a thousand words. Very cool to actually see the cable being pulled out and what the repeater looks like.</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOyKdJWPlZY" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOyKdJWPlZY</a> [youtube.com]</p><p>SEACOM<br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgKezSWuAGE&amp;feature=related" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgKezSWuAGE&amp;feature=related</a> [youtube.com]</p><p>Construction of East Africa's undersea fibre optics cable<br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW0Fp-bbKWI" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW0Fp-bbKWI</a> [youtube.com]</p><p>Alaska Communications Systems Undersea Fiber Optic Projects<br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJt0sh1d-H0" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJt0sh1d-H0</a> [youtube.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah screw the article , here is a video and they speak a thousand words .
Very cool to actually see the cable being pulled out and what the repeater looks like.http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = dOyKdJWPlZY [ youtube.com ] SEACOMhttp : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = LgKezSWuAGE&amp;feature = related [ youtube.com ] Construction of East Africa 's undersea fibre optics cablehttp : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = dW0Fp-bbKWI [ youtube.com ] Alaska Communications Systems Undersea Fiber Optic Projectshttp : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = YJt0sh1d-H0 [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah screw the article, here is a video and they speak a thousand words.
Very cool to actually see the cable being pulled out and what the repeater looks like.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOyKdJWPlZY [youtube.com]SEACOMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgKezSWuAGE&amp;feature=related [youtube.com]Construction of East Africa's undersea fibre optics cablehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW0Fp-bbKWI [youtube.com]Alaska Communications Systems Undersea Fiber Optic Projectshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJt0sh1d-H0 [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29950560</id>
	<title>Re:Dam</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257179460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, does this qualify as cybersex?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , does this qualify as cybersex ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, does this qualify as cybersex?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29958202</id>
	<title>Re:Can't wait</title>
	<author>phantomcircuit</author>
	<datestamp>1257172080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Most Malaysian users' home broadband is capped to a measly maximum 4mbps because demand for bandwidth so far outstrips supply.</p></div><p>Sadly that is higher than many Americans.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most Malaysian users ' home broadband is capped to a measly maximum 4mbps because demand for bandwidth so far outstrips supply.Sadly that is higher than many Americans .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most Malaysian users' home broadband is capped to a measly maximum 4mbps because demand for bandwidth so far outstrips supply.Sadly that is higher than many Americans.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29951708</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29950014</id>
	<title>yay!</title>
	<author>Lord Ender</author>
	<datestamp>1257176220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>More people who don't speak English will be on my team in L4D! That's great for teamwork, right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>More people who do n't speak English will be on my team in L4D !
That 's great for teamwork , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More people who don't speak English will be on my team in L4D!
That's great for teamwork, right?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949514</id>
	<title>Woo Hoo!</title>
	<author>Cornwallis</author>
	<datestamp>1257172740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A faster and more direct tube to receive Chinese spam.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A faster and more direct tube to receive Chinese spam .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A faster and more direct tube to receive Chinese spam.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29950274</id>
	<title>Not really</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257177660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>that firewall can be used 2 ways. While today, it keeps citizens from seeing the truth, what everybody is missing is that someday down the road, that same 'firewall' will be used to protect China, while they will launch massive cyber attacks against EU, Canada, US, Australia, Mexico, and the rest of the western nations.</htmltext>
<tokenext>that firewall can be used 2 ways .
While today , it keeps citizens from seeing the truth , what everybody is missing is that someday down the road , that same 'firewall ' will be used to protect China , while they will launch massive cyber attacks against EU , Canada , US , Australia , Mexico , and the rest of the western nations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that firewall can be used 2 ways.
While today, it keeps citizens from seeing the truth, what everybody is missing is that someday down the road, that same 'firewall' will be used to protect China, while they will launch massive cyber attacks against EU, Canada, US, Australia, Mexico, and the rest of the western nations.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949582</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29962374</id>
	<title>How does this stuff \_work\_?</title>
	<author>RichiH</author>
	<datestamp>1257257040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Has anyone a good link that explains, in some depth, how they do this? You have a ship (or more) and they haul the cable to the surface. OK. But what \_exactly\_ is involved?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Has anyone a good link that explains , in some depth , how they do this ?
You have a ship ( or more ) and they haul the cable to the surface .
OK. But what \ _exactly \ _ is involved ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has anyone a good link that explains, in some depth, how they do this?
You have a ship (or more) and they haul the cable to the surface.
OK. But what \_exactly\_ is involved?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949612</id>
	<title>Obligatory Stephenson Wired article</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257173700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Back in 1996 Neal Stephenson wrote a really excellent article, "Mother Earth Mother Board" in Wired. If you're curious about what it actually takes to wire the world it's a really excellent read.</p><p>Paged:<br><a href="http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/ffglass.html" title="wired.com">http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/ffglass.html</a> [wired.com]</p><p>Single-page:<br><a href="http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/ffglass\_pr.html" title="wired.com">http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/ffglass\_pr.html</a> [wired.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Back in 1996 Neal Stephenson wrote a really excellent article , " Mother Earth Mother Board " in Wired .
If you 're curious about what it actually takes to wire the world it 's a really excellent read.Paged : http : //www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/ffglass.html [ wired.com ] Single-page : http : //www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/ffglass \ _pr.html [ wired.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Back in 1996 Neal Stephenson wrote a really excellent article, "Mother Earth Mother Board" in Wired.
If you're curious about what it actually takes to wire the world it's a really excellent read.Paged:http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/ffglass.html [wired.com]Single-page:http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/ffglass\_pr.html [wired.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29950568</id>
	<title>be careful</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257179460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Let's just hope this cable doesn't get run by any dolphins or whales, er I mean cows or chickens.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's just hope this cable does n't get run by any dolphins or whales , er I mean cows or chickens .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's just hope this cable doesn't get run by any dolphins or whales, er I mean cows or chickens.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949602</id>
	<title>Why not run it across the Bering Strait?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257173580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We could link North America and Asia without putting an expensive cable under a lot of water. Or is it cheaper to do that than to make a trench?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We could link North America and Asia without putting an expensive cable under a lot of water .
Or is it cheaper to do that than to make a trench ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We could link North America and Asia without putting an expensive cable under a lot of water.
Or is it cheaper to do that than to make a trench?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949566</id>
	<title>Wow!</title>
	<author>kurt555gs</author>
	<datestamp>1257173400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Asian bathroom pron, without buffering!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Asian bathroom pron , without buffering !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Asian bathroom pron, without buffering!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949364</id>
	<title>Yes!</title>
	<author>SalaSSin</author>
	<datestamp>1257171240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Woohoo! Faster Hentai downloads<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Woohoo !
Faster Hentai downloads : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Woohoo!
Faster Hentai downloads :-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29950320</id>
	<title>Re:Yes!</title>
	<author>adnonsense</author>
	<datestamp>1257178020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
  That maybe fine for you, but here in Japan the Internet is basically one big LAN.
</p><p>
  So basically we have so much of the stuff tentacles are poking out of our USB ports.
</p><p>
  What that does mean for us, here in the land of Hello Kitty, is faster access to a range of porn
  featuring fewer celaphods and more girls with non-pixelized genitals.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That maybe fine for you , but here in Japan the Internet is basically one big LAN .
So basically we have so much of the stuff tentacles are poking out of our USB ports .
What that does mean for us , here in the land of Hello Kitty , is faster access to a range of porn featuring fewer celaphods and more girls with non-pixelized genitals .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
  That maybe fine for you, but here in Japan the Internet is basically one big LAN.
So basically we have so much of the stuff tentacles are poking out of our USB ports.
What that does mean for us, here in the land of Hello Kitty, is faster access to a range of porn
  featuring fewer celaphods and more girls with non-pixelized genitals.
</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949364</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29959460</id>
	<title>Re:Yes!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257180120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Now how about tackling the problem of fiber to the home.</p></div><p>Houseboat?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now how about tackling the problem of fiber to the home.Houseboat ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now how about tackling the problem of fiber to the home.Houseboat?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949512</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29950170</id>
	<title>Re:Copper</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257177120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, but I don't get the "supposedly equivalent to about 75 million..." in the summary. About? Supposedly? A standard phone line is a DS0; 64kbps. That would fit EXACTLY 75 million times in a 4.8Tbps link!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , but I do n't get the " supposedly equivalent to about 75 million... " in the summary .
About ? Supposedly ?
A standard phone line is a DS0 ; 64kbps .
That would fit EXACTLY 75 million times in a 4.8Tbps link !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, but I don't get the "supposedly equivalent to about 75 million..." in the summary.
About? Supposedly?
A standard phone line is a DS0; 64kbps.
That would fit EXACTLY 75 million times in a 4.8Tbps link!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949916</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29960322</id>
	<title>Re:Great Firewall...</title>
	<author>FreakyGreenLeaky</author>
	<datestamp>1257187620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>:D Don't be too hard on the poor chap.  <i>garatheus</i> is probably from the USA, so he also believes the Far East is New York, and Australia is part of Africa, or something.</htmltext>
<tokenext>: D Do n't be too hard on the poor chap .
garatheus is probably from the USA , so he also believes the Far East is New York , and Australia is part of Africa , or something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>:D Don't be too hard on the poor chap.
garatheus is probably from the USA, so he also believes the Far East is New York, and Australia is part of Africa, or something.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29950006</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949756</id>
	<title>How much of that cost is the cable?</title>
	<author>TheSunborn</author>
	<datestamp>1257174840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How much of that cost is the cable?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How much of that cost is the cable ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How much of that cost is the cable?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949390</id>
	<title>Mostly Crap</title>
	<author>pcjunky</author>
	<datestamp>1257171540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With all the crap that comes in via Asia, hacks SPAM, etc Maybe it would be better to cut the cables that are there now. I already null route most of china anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With all the crap that comes in via Asia , hacks SPAM , etc Maybe it would be better to cut the cables that are there now .
I already null route most of china anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With all the crap that comes in via Asia, hacks SPAM, etc Maybe it would be better to cut the cables that are there now.
I already null route most of china anyway.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29954062</id>
	<title>Wii games</title>
	<author>wed128</author>
	<datestamp>1257195420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Great, now the asians can kick my ass at mario kart with less impact on global bandwidth...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Great , now the asians can kick my ass at mario kart with less impact on global bandwidth.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Great, now the asians can kick my ass at mario kart with less impact on global bandwidth...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949434</id>
	<title>We need more submarines</title>
	<author>For a Free Internet</author>
	<datestamp>1257172080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We need more submarines to patrol this vital commercial lifeline. In its current state it is just asking for the Italians to attack it. Do we want another Pearl Harbor, but this time, a "digital" one? Vigilance equals freedom!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We need more submarines to patrol this vital commercial lifeline .
In its current state it is just asking for the Italians to attack it .
Do we want another Pearl Harbor , but this time , a " digital " one ?
Vigilance equals freedom !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We need more submarines to patrol this vital commercial lifeline.
In its current state it is just asking for the Italians to attack it.
Do we want another Pearl Harbor, but this time, a "digital" one?
Vigilance equals freedom!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949512</id>
	<title>Re:Yes!</title>
	<author>Wowsers</author>
	<datestamp>1257172740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>$300m, isn't that the cost of a few US senators "campaign contributions"?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p><p>More fiber please, money that's more wisely spent. Now how about tackling the problem of fiber to the home.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>$ 300m , is n't that the cost of a few US senators " campaign contributions " ?
: ( More fiber please , money that 's more wisely spent .
Now how about tackling the problem of fiber to the home .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>$300m, isn't that the cost of a few US senators "campaign contributions"?
:(More fiber please, money that's more wisely spent.
Now how about tackling the problem of fiber to the home.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949364</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29951294</id>
	<title>How 70s! let's use hdls instead of 64 voice links</title>
	<author>Madman</author>
	<datestamp>1257182640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>surely using uncompressed telephone calls as a measure of bandwidth is a bit outdated? 4.8Tb is 75 million 64K uncompressed telephone calls. c'mon, get real!</p><p>Instead let's measure bandwidth by hdls units, 1 High Definition Lost Season is a pretty impressive measure of bandwidth, and by my reckoning 4.8Tb is about 100 hdls/second. That's a big pipe!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>surely using uncompressed telephone calls as a measure of bandwidth is a bit outdated ?
4.8Tb is 75 million 64K uncompressed telephone calls .
c'mon , get real ! Instead let 's measure bandwidth by hdls units , 1 High Definition Lost Season is a pretty impressive measure of bandwidth , and by my reckoning 4.8Tb is about 100 hdls/second .
That 's a big pipe !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>surely using uncompressed telephone calls as a measure of bandwidth is a bit outdated?
4.8Tb is 75 million 64K uncompressed telephone calls.
c'mon, get real!Instead let's measure bandwidth by hdls units, 1 High Definition Lost Season is a pretty impressive measure of bandwidth, and by my reckoning 4.8Tb is about 100 hdls/second.
That's a big pipe!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949424</id>
	<title>How does that work, exactly?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257172080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So I've got a bunch of cable laying around, figure I'll run my own line from Japan to California. How does that work, exactly? I assume the cable is protected in some extremely strong waterproof and snag-proof sheath, but do they really just roll it off the ship, let it fall to the ocean floor, and there it sits? Do they have to occasionally throw a repeater overboard as well? I've always been curious how we're actually able to have these outrageously long cables under the sea and that it works, and works well enough that I believe cables are still the preferred method of data movement, with satellites being a distant second.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So I 've got a bunch of cable laying around , figure I 'll run my own line from Japan to California .
How does that work , exactly ?
I assume the cable is protected in some extremely strong waterproof and snag-proof sheath , but do they really just roll it off the ship , let it fall to the ocean floor , and there it sits ?
Do they have to occasionally throw a repeater overboard as well ?
I 've always been curious how we 're actually able to have these outrageously long cables under the sea and that it works , and works well enough that I believe cables are still the preferred method of data movement , with satellites being a distant second .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So I've got a bunch of cable laying around, figure I'll run my own line from Japan to California.
How does that work, exactly?
I assume the cable is protected in some extremely strong waterproof and snag-proof sheath, but do they really just roll it off the ship, let it fall to the ocean floor, and there it sits?
Do they have to occasionally throw a repeater overboard as well?
I've always been curious how we're actually able to have these outrageously long cables under the sea and that it works, and works well enough that I believe cables are still the preferred method of data movement, with satellites being a distant second.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949984</id>
	<title>Relations</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1257176040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>it is projected to increase internet traffic capacity between the two regions by over 20\%, a wonderful boost to transpacific relations!</i></p><p>Man, I hate those Japanese! And they hate us too!</p><p>(More internet bandwidth)</p><p>Suddenly we both love each other! Awww...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>it is projected to increase internet traffic capacity between the two regions by over 20 \ % , a wonderful boost to transpacific relations ! Man , I hate those Japanese !
And they hate us too !
( More internet bandwidth ) Suddenly we both love each other !
Awww.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it is projected to increase internet traffic capacity between the two regions by over 20\%, a wonderful boost to transpacific relations!Man, I hate those Japanese!
And they hate us too!
(More internet bandwidth)Suddenly we both love each other!
Awww...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949610</id>
	<title>intercontinental railway</title>
	<author>tverbeek</author>
	<datestamp>1257173700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Will there be a ceremonial connection of a golden coupler when the cables meet in the middle?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Will there be a ceremonial connection of a golden coupler when the cables meet in the middle ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will there be a ceremonial connection of a golden coupler when the cables meet in the middle?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29951708</id>
	<title>Can't wait</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257184440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Looking forward to this here in Malaysia. Global Transit's HQ is just 200m from my house. When I see the truck pulling the final bit of cable wet and dripping from its long sea voyage, I'll slip the dudes a few bucks to tap a slice off for me.
</p><p>Seriously, though, this is a country where almost all content of interest is foreign: unlike Japan or Thailand, say, there's no significant local-language content industry. Everyone reads English and/or Chinese and therefore skips straight past the homegrown small-potatoes sites, on to the major international sites (in fact I think most Americans would be surprised how well-integrated Malaysians are into the American view of the web). Every little bit of overseas capacity makes a big difference. Most Malaysian users' home broadband is capped to a measly maximum 4mbps because demand for bandwidth so far outstrips supply.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Looking forward to this here in Malaysia .
Global Transit 's HQ is just 200m from my house .
When I see the truck pulling the final bit of cable wet and dripping from its long sea voyage , I 'll slip the dudes a few bucks to tap a slice off for me .
Seriously , though , this is a country where almost all content of interest is foreign : unlike Japan or Thailand , say , there 's no significant local-language content industry .
Everyone reads English and/or Chinese and therefore skips straight past the homegrown small-potatoes sites , on to the major international sites ( in fact I think most Americans would be surprised how well-integrated Malaysians are into the American view of the web ) .
Every little bit of overseas capacity makes a big difference .
Most Malaysian users ' home broadband is capped to a measly maximum 4mbps because demand for bandwidth so far outstrips supply .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looking forward to this here in Malaysia.
Global Transit's HQ is just 200m from my house.
When I see the truck pulling the final bit of cable wet and dripping from its long sea voyage, I'll slip the dudes a few bucks to tap a slice off for me.
Seriously, though, this is a country where almost all content of interest is foreign: unlike Japan or Thailand, say, there's no significant local-language content industry.
Everyone reads English and/or Chinese and therefore skips straight past the homegrown small-potatoes sites, on to the major international sites (in fact I think most Americans would be surprised how well-integrated Malaysians are into the American view of the web).
Every little bit of overseas capacity makes a big difference.
Most Malaysian users' home broadband is capped to a measly maximum 4mbps because demand for bandwidth so far outstrips supply.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949452</id>
	<title>SHIT</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257172260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can "lay" a "cable" faster than that...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can " lay " a " cable " faster than that.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can "lay" a "cable" faster than that...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29952034</id>
	<title>Re:How much of that cost is the cable?</title>
	<author>DarthVain</author>
	<datestamp>1257185940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sounds pretty cheap to me, particularly when you consider the specialized ships and expertise and whatnot you require for this type of work. Perhaps the got a volume discount.</p><p>300 Million / 10,000 Km = 30,000$/Km</p><p>That is everything, including the cable.</p><p>I know it isn't the same thing but I know of underwater electrical cable that cost something like 10,000$/Foot... just to put it in perspective. (That was for a wind power project located on an island that had to run a power cable from their substation to the grid, only a couple of kilometers away, running the cable was a major part of the overall cost of the wind farm)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds pretty cheap to me , particularly when you consider the specialized ships and expertise and whatnot you require for this type of work .
Perhaps the got a volume discount.300 Million / 10,000 Km = 30,000 $ /KmThat is everything , including the cable.I know it is n't the same thing but I know of underwater electrical cable that cost something like 10,000 $ /Foot... just to put it in perspective .
( That was for a wind power project located on an island that had to run a power cable from their substation to the grid , only a couple of kilometers away , running the cable was a major part of the overall cost of the wind farm )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds pretty cheap to me, particularly when you consider the specialized ships and expertise and whatnot you require for this type of work.
Perhaps the got a volume discount.300 Million / 10,000 Km = 30,000$/KmThat is everything, including the cable.I know it isn't the same thing but I know of underwater electrical cable that cost something like 10,000$/Foot... just to put it in perspective.
(That was for a wind power project located on an island that had to run a power cable from their substation to the grid, only a couple of kilometers away, running the cable was a major part of the overall cost of the wind farm)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29951786</id>
	<title>75 million?</title>
	<author>adenied</author>
	<datestamp>1257184800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The article submitter seems skeptical of 4.8 Tbps being 75 million simultaneous calls.</p><p>So is 4.8 Tbps really 75 million simultaneous phone calls?  Let's do some simple calculations.  If we want to go with exactly 4.8 Tbps we can say that's 480 OC-192 circuits.  An OC-192 is equivalent to 192 DS3s.  So that gives us 92,160 DS3s.  Each DS3 carries 28 T1s.  So that's 2,580,480 T1 circuits.  Ignoring signaling channels and going with a standard DS0 signal of 64 kbps you have 24 channels per T1.  Uh oh, that only gets us 61,931,520 voice circuits.</p><p>So where do we get 75 million from?  Bad math actually, at least as far as any telecom geek is concerned.  If you take 4,800,000,000,000 bps and divide that by 64,000 bps you get exactly 75,000,000.  This is very simplified though no matter what the technology being used is.  It ignores any overhead in framing and other signaling.  Be it traditional telecom circuits like DS3s or packet type networks, you're always going to have overhead.  You also need signaling channels to control your voice traffic (unless you want to be old school and use in-band MF or DTMF or something, but I digress).  If that's SIP or SS7 or Q.931 ISDN D-channels, you're still taking up space with it.</p><p>I guess all this says is what most people on Slashdot probably already know.  Bandwidth is just a number.  What you can do with it is an entirely different question.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The article submitter seems skeptical of 4.8 Tbps being 75 million simultaneous calls.So is 4.8 Tbps really 75 million simultaneous phone calls ?
Let 's do some simple calculations .
If we want to go with exactly 4.8 Tbps we can say that 's 480 OC-192 circuits .
An OC-192 is equivalent to 192 DS3s .
So that gives us 92,160 DS3s .
Each DS3 carries 28 T1s .
So that 's 2,580,480 T1 circuits .
Ignoring signaling channels and going with a standard DS0 signal of 64 kbps you have 24 channels per T1 .
Uh oh , that only gets us 61,931,520 voice circuits.So where do we get 75 million from ?
Bad math actually , at least as far as any telecom geek is concerned .
If you take 4,800,000,000,000 bps and divide that by 64,000 bps you get exactly 75,000,000 .
This is very simplified though no matter what the technology being used is .
It ignores any overhead in framing and other signaling .
Be it traditional telecom circuits like DS3s or packet type networks , you 're always going to have overhead .
You also need signaling channels to control your voice traffic ( unless you want to be old school and use in-band MF or DTMF or something , but I digress ) .
If that 's SIP or SS7 or Q.931 ISDN D-channels , you 're still taking up space with it.I guess all this says is what most people on Slashdot probably already know .
Bandwidth is just a number .
What you can do with it is an entirely different question .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The article submitter seems skeptical of 4.8 Tbps being 75 million simultaneous calls.So is 4.8 Tbps really 75 million simultaneous phone calls?
Let's do some simple calculations.
If we want to go with exactly 4.8 Tbps we can say that's 480 OC-192 circuits.
An OC-192 is equivalent to 192 DS3s.
So that gives us 92,160 DS3s.
Each DS3 carries 28 T1s.
So that's 2,580,480 T1 circuits.
Ignoring signaling channels and going with a standard DS0 signal of 64 kbps you have 24 channels per T1.
Uh oh, that only gets us 61,931,520 voice circuits.So where do we get 75 million from?
Bad math actually, at least as far as any telecom geek is concerned.
If you take 4,800,000,000,000 bps and divide that by 64,000 bps you get exactly 75,000,000.
This is very simplified though no matter what the technology being used is.
It ignores any overhead in framing and other signaling.
Be it traditional telecom circuits like DS3s or packet type networks, you're always going to have overhead.
You also need signaling channels to control your voice traffic (unless you want to be old school and use in-band MF or DTMF or something, but I digress).
If that's SIP or SS7 or Q.931 ISDN D-channels, you're still taking up space with it.I guess all this says is what most people on Slashdot probably already know.
Bandwidth is just a number.
What you can do with it is an entirely different question.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949820</id>
	<title>Re:Surprisingly small sounding numbers</title>
	<author>dingen</author>
	<datestamp>1257175080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. With all of the megabit and gigabit links being thrown around, surely a major line like this should have more bandwith than a mere few terabits?</p><p>I suppose not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , I was thinking the same thing .
With all of the megabit and gigabit links being thrown around , surely a major line like this should have more bandwith than a mere few terabits ? I suppose not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.
With all of the megabit and gigabit links being thrown around, surely a major line like this should have more bandwith than a mere few terabits?I suppose not.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949450</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949666</id>
	<title>Re:How does that work, exactly?</title>
	<author>TBoon</author>
	<datestamp>1257174180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>with satellites being a distant second.</p></div><p>Have you ever used satellite internet/phones? I have at sea. And disregarding the much lower speeds, the lag makes it highly unsuitable for some usages. We had VOIP phones on our connection. With geostationary satellites the signal take about 200ms just to get from your local point on earth and back down to the other ground-based point. That's very noticable when talking with someone on the phone. Especially when adding a bit more delays at the VOIP-stage and PSTN side too... On the other hand, you can get to pretty much anywhere on the planet within 50ms with a cable. (In theory, disregarding delay at routing, and non-direct routes.)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>with satellites being a distant second.Have you ever used satellite internet/phones ?
I have at sea .
And disregarding the much lower speeds , the lag makes it highly unsuitable for some usages .
We had VOIP phones on our connection .
With geostationary satellites the signal take about 200ms just to get from your local point on earth and back down to the other ground-based point .
That 's very noticable when talking with someone on the phone .
Especially when adding a bit more delays at the VOIP-stage and PSTN side too... On the other hand , you can get to pretty much anywhere on the planet within 50ms with a cable .
( In theory , disregarding delay at routing , and non-direct routes .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>with satellites being a distant second.Have you ever used satellite internet/phones?
I have at sea.
And disregarding the much lower speeds, the lag makes it highly unsuitable for some usages.
We had VOIP phones on our connection.
With geostationary satellites the signal take about 200ms just to get from your local point on earth and back down to the other ground-based point.
That's very noticable when talking with someone on the phone.
Especially when adding a bit more delays at the VOIP-stage and PSTN side too... On the other hand, you can get to pretty much anywhere on the planet within 50ms with a cable.
(In theory, disregarding delay at routing, and non-direct routes.
)
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949582</id>
	<title>Great Firewall...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257173460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Surely the firewalls and censorship that happens in China kind of defeats the purpose of faster connections between the Far East and the USA?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Surely the firewalls and censorship that happens in China kind of defeats the purpose of faster connections between the Far East and the USA ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Surely the firewalls and censorship that happens in China kind of defeats the purpose of faster connections between the Far East and the USA?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0734253.29949422</id>
	<title>Dam</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257171960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even fiber optic cable is getting laid...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even fiber optic cable is getting laid.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even fiber optic cable is getting laid...</sentencetext>
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