<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_01_1340242</id>
	<title>The Most Influential People In Open Source</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1257086820000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>mmaney writes <i>"As part of its 2009 open source best practices research, MindTouch asked C and VP level open source executives who they thought are <a href="http://www.mindtouch.com/blog/2009/10/27/most-influential-people-in-open-source/">the most influential people in the industry <em>today</em>.</a> The list is ranked by the effect these individuals have had on the open source industry. Over 50 votes from executives in Europe and North America were cast. There were a few surprises from outside of the open source industry.  Steve Ballmer got a mention because of his negative remarks on the open source industry and its subsequent positive impact. Vivek Kundra was mentioned because of his contributions to the industry inside the US Federal Government.  Notably absent, however, are any influential women."</i>
Relatedly, Matt Asay (who is also on the list) writes about <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505\_3-10383730-16.html">the decreased need for open-source evangelism</a>, noting that several people on the list are there "not because they're open-source cheerleaders, but because they have helped vendors and customers alike understand <em>how</em> to get the most from open-source investments."</htmltext>
<tokenext>mmaney writes " As part of its 2009 open source best practices research , MindTouch asked C and VP level open source executives who they thought are the most influential people in the industry today .
The list is ranked by the effect these individuals have had on the open source industry .
Over 50 votes from executives in Europe and North America were cast .
There were a few surprises from outside of the open source industry .
Steve Ballmer got a mention because of his negative remarks on the open source industry and its subsequent positive impact .
Vivek Kundra was mentioned because of his contributions to the industry inside the US Federal Government .
Notably absent , however , are any influential women .
" Relatedly , Matt Asay ( who is also on the list ) writes about the decreased need for open-source evangelism , noting that several people on the list are there " not because they 're open-source cheerleaders , but because they have helped vendors and customers alike understand how to get the most from open-source investments .
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<sentencetext>mmaney writes "As part of its 2009 open source best practices research, MindTouch asked C and VP level open source executives who they thought are the most influential people in the industry today.
The list is ranked by the effect these individuals have had on the open source industry.
Over 50 votes from executives in Europe and North America were cast.
There were a few surprises from outside of the open source industry.
Steve Ballmer got a mention because of his negative remarks on the open source industry and its subsequent positive impact.
Vivek Kundra was mentioned because of his contributions to the industry inside the US Federal Government.
Notably absent, however, are any influential women.
"
Relatedly, Matt Asay (who is also on the list) writes about the decreased need for open-source evangelism, noting that several people on the list are there "not because they're open-source cheerleaders, but because they have helped vendors and customers alike understand how to get the most from open-source investments.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29945820</id>
	<title>Re:Influential Women</title>
	<author>asifyoucare</author>
	<datestamp>1257082680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why do you want to recognise women separately?  Are there any influential redheads, or any influential people with funny middle names?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do you want to recognise women separately ?
Are there any influential redheads , or any influential people with funny middle names ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do you want to recognise women separately?
Are there any influential redheads, or any influential people with funny middle names?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29943282</id>
	<title>Re:WTF?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257106680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, Yes, No, Yes, No, Yes.</p><p>Now executives in those companies?  No, not really.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , Yes , No , Yes , No , Yes.Now executives in those companies ?
No , not really .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, Yes, No, Yes, No, Yes.Now executives in those companies?
No, not really.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29942101</id>
	<title>Industry gossip</title>
	<author>oldhack</author>
	<datestamp>1257095220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is industry marketing dribble where they think "Open Source" is a fashionable marketing slogan.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is industry marketing dribble where they think " Open Source " is a fashionable marketing slogan .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is industry marketing dribble where they think "Open Source" is a fashionable marketing slogan.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29952752</id>
	<title>Re:Slashdot power to the rescue!</title>
	<author>tsa</author>
	<datestamp>1257189660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Linux may not have made it to the desktop, but isn't Linux on your phone (Android, Maemo) way cooler? Who ever thought of that in 1995, when Linux on the desktop was just around the corner! Linux on the phone was never just around the corner; it was just there when needed!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux may not have made it to the desktop , but is n't Linux on your phone ( Android , Maemo ) way cooler ?
Who ever thought of that in 1995 , when Linux on the desktop was just around the corner !
Linux on the phone was never just around the corner ; it was just there when needed !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux may not have made it to the desktop, but isn't Linux on your phone (Android, Maemo) way cooler?
Who ever thought of that in 1995, when Linux on the desktop was just around the corner!
Linux on the phone was never just around the corner; it was just there when needed!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29942227</id>
	<title>Top two "influencers" are MIndtouch board members.</title>
	<author>Vellmont</author>
	<datestamp>1257096360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Take a quick look at the people in the article:</p><p><a href="http://www.mindtouch.com/blog/2009/10/27/most-influential-people-in-open-source/" title="mindtouch.com">http://www.mindtouch.com/blog/2009/10/27/most-influential-people-in-open-source/</a> [mindtouch.com]</p><p>Now take a quick look at the people on their board (scroll to bottom).</p><p><a href="http://www.mindtouch.com/About\_MindTouch" title="mindtouch.com">http://www.mindtouch.com/About\_MindTouch</a> [mindtouch.com]<br>Notice any two names and pictures in common, like say the top two ranked people in the article?</p><p>Now, I guess you could think "Wow!  these guys must really be a great company since they have the TOP TWO OSS influencers on their board!".  A less naive person might have some other thoughts on that.</p><p>This article is little more than marketing masquerading as news.  It was written by the companies sales guy.  The reason why nobody has ever heard of these people is that the article isn't about actual people of influence, it's an attempt to sell a product.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Take a quick look at the people in the article : http : //www.mindtouch.com/blog/2009/10/27/most-influential-people-in-open-source/ [ mindtouch.com ] Now take a quick look at the people on their board ( scroll to bottom ) .http : //www.mindtouch.com/About \ _MindTouch [ mindtouch.com ] Notice any two names and pictures in common , like say the top two ranked people in the article ? Now , I guess you could think " Wow !
these guys must really be a great company since they have the TOP TWO OSS influencers on their board ! " .
A less naive person might have some other thoughts on that.This article is little more than marketing masquerading as news .
It was written by the companies sales guy .
The reason why nobody has ever heard of these people is that the article is n't about actual people of influence , it 's an attempt to sell a product .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Take a quick look at the people in the article:http://www.mindtouch.com/blog/2009/10/27/most-influential-people-in-open-source/ [mindtouch.com]Now take a quick look at the people on their board (scroll to bottom).http://www.mindtouch.com/About\_MindTouch [mindtouch.com]Notice any two names and pictures in common, like say the top two ranked people in the article?Now, I guess you could think "Wow!
these guys must really be a great company since they have the TOP TWO OSS influencers on their board!".
A less naive person might have some other thoughts on that.This article is little more than marketing masquerading as news.
It was written by the companies sales guy.
The reason why nobody has ever heard of these people is that the article isn't about actual people of influence, it's an attempt to sell a product.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29942177</id>
	<title>Not OSS list</title>
	<author>tokul</author>
	<datestamp>1257095940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Top 4 are not open source. They only run commercial companies that have sidekick OSS products. Their main products are commercial ones. Those people are not OSS developers. You might ask them questions about open source only if you want business related answers about open source and even then you might not get any viable business answer.

</p><p>Honorable Mentions - Scott Mcnealy, Sun Microsystems. WTF?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Top 4 are not open source .
They only run commercial companies that have sidekick OSS products .
Their main products are commercial ones .
Those people are not OSS developers .
You might ask them questions about open source only if you want business related answers about open source and even then you might not get any viable business answer .
Honorable Mentions - Scott Mcnealy , Sun Microsystems .
WTF ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Top 4 are not open source.
They only run commercial companies that have sidekick OSS products.
Their main products are commercial ones.
Those people are not OSS developers.
You might ask them questions about open source only if you want business related answers about open source and even then you might not get any viable business answer.
Honorable Mentions - Scott Mcnealy, Sun Microsystems.
WTF?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29941703</id>
	<title>Everyone</title>
	<author>dandart</author>
	<datestamp>1257091500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Everyone's a hero in open source.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Everyone 's a hero in open source .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everyone's a hero in open source.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29941785</id>
	<title>Re:WTF?</title>
	<author>Radtoo</author>
	<datestamp>1257092220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>It is really the list of "the top influential Executives of the 2009", as is stated further down in the article.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is really the list of " the top influential Executives of the 2009 " , as is stated further down in the article .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is really the list of "the top influential Executives of the 2009", as is stated further down in the article.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29942712</id>
	<title>Re:Execs, etc</title>
	<author>mevets</author>
	<datestamp>1257101820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Reread roebots post - your missing the sarcasm, he should be modded Funny, right down to a "suggestion box".   I'm surprised he didn't add a working group.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Reread roebots post - your missing the sarcasm , he should be modded Funny , right down to a " suggestion box " .
I 'm surprised he did n't add a working group .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reread roebots post - your missing the sarcasm, he should be modded Funny, right down to a "suggestion box".
I'm surprised he didn't add a working group.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29942816</id>
	<title>Re:Execs, etc</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257103020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><i> Linus Torvalds (Linux creator) </i>
<br>
<br>
True, and his kernel development supervision keeps him on the list even today.<br>
<br>
<i>Eric S. Raymond (Open Source advocate)</i>
<br>
<br>
Influential in his own mind maybe.  Serious proponents of OSS gave up listening to that fruitcake years ago, I'd estimate at some point after the racism, but before the terrorist paranoia.<br>
<br>
<i>Bruce Perens (started Debian Linux and coined the term "Open Source"</i>
<br>
<br>
Debian was started by Ian Murdock (hence the -ian part; the deb comes from his wife's name).  <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.msdos.apps/browse\_thread/thread/b62cf60922aca62c/6f47487d14375eaf?hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=\%22open+source\%22+and+Caldera" title="google.com">And "open source" was coined long before OSI took credit for it.</a> [google.com]
<br>
<br>
You could probably make a better argument that Perens deserves to be on the list through his lobbying, especially on the international stage.<br>
<br> <i>Richard Stallman (Free Software Foundation spiritual father)</i>
<br>
<br>Well more important than its spiritual father, he's its president, so I think that gets him on the list.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Linus Torvalds ( Linux creator ) True , and his kernel development supervision keeps him on the list even today .
Eric S. Raymond ( Open Source advocate ) Influential in his own mind maybe .
Serious proponents of OSS gave up listening to that fruitcake years ago , I 'd estimate at some point after the racism , but before the terrorist paranoia .
Bruce Perens ( started Debian Linux and coined the term " Open Source " Debian was started by Ian Murdock ( hence the -ian part ; the deb comes from his wife 's name ) .
And " open source " was coined long before OSI took credit for it .
[ google.com ] You could probably make a better argument that Perens deserves to be on the list through his lobbying , especially on the international stage .
Richard Stallman ( Free Software Foundation spiritual father ) Well more important than its spiritual father , he 's its president , so I think that gets him on the list .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Linus Torvalds (Linux creator) 


True, and his kernel development supervision keeps him on the list even today.
Eric S. Raymond (Open Source advocate)


Influential in his own mind maybe.
Serious proponents of OSS gave up listening to that fruitcake years ago, I'd estimate at some point after the racism, but before the terrorist paranoia.
Bruce Perens (started Debian Linux and coined the term "Open Source"


Debian was started by Ian Murdock (hence the -ian part; the deb comes from his wife's name).
And "open source" was coined long before OSI took credit for it.
[google.com]


You could probably make a better argument that Perens deserves to be on the list through his lobbying, especially on the international stage.
Richard Stallman (Free Software Foundation spiritual father)

Well more important than its spiritual father, he's its president, so I think that gets him on the list.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29941729</id>
	<title>Slashdotted</title>
	<author>eln</author>
	<datestamp>1257091800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm very impressed with this list.  It's about time the venerable Mr. Error Establishing a Database Connection got his due.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm very impressed with this list .
It 's about time the venerable Mr. Error Establishing a Database Connection got his due .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm very impressed with this list.
It's about time the venerable Mr. Error Establishing a Database Connection got his due.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29942842</id>
	<title>Joey Ferwerda</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257103260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where is Ton Roosendaal from the Blender Foundation!<br>His look on Open Source and Open Contend changed everything for good!</p><p>Blender is now a well used alternative in the industry.<br>Elephant&rsquo;s Dream and Big Buck Bunny are the only open movies right now, and used a lot for studies.<br>Yo Frankie!, is one of the only open games that is used as base for a lot of starting developers.</p><p>Where is Ton, the best open source CEO ever!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where is Ton Roosendaal from the Blender Foundation ! His look on Open Source and Open Contend changed everything for good ! Blender is now a well used alternative in the industry.Elephant    s Dream and Big Buck Bunny are the only open movies right now , and used a lot for studies.Yo Frankie ! , is one of the only open games that is used as base for a lot of starting developers.Where is Ton , the best open source CEO ever !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where is Ton Roosendaal from the Blender Foundation!His look on Open Source and Open Contend changed everything for good!Blender is now a well used alternative in the industry.Elephant’s Dream and Big Buck Bunny are the only open movies right now, and used a lot for studies.Yo Frankie!, is one of the only open games that is used as base for a lot of starting developers.Where is Ton, the best open source CEO ever!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29944246</id>
	<title>Re:Influential Women</title>
	<author>vlm</author>
	<datestamp>1257070020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You mention Debian, then mention the job title "supervisor"...</p><p><div class="quote"><p>a Linux distro supervisor needs to make sure that all the packages in the distro will play nicely with each other</p></div><p>Can you describe your experience with Debian's supervisors and management team?</p><p>(Disclaimer, I have some personal experience with this exact topic.  It is handled in an effective mostly-anarchistic way, without any "management overhead", which I doubt the fine article's writers and readers can comprehend.)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You mention Debian , then mention the job title " supervisor " ...a Linux distro supervisor needs to make sure that all the packages in the distro will play nicely with each otherCan you describe your experience with Debian 's supervisors and management team ?
( Disclaimer , I have some personal experience with this exact topic .
It is handled in an effective mostly-anarchistic way , without any " management overhead " , which I doubt the fine article 's writers and readers can comprehend .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mention Debian, then mention the job title "supervisor"...a Linux distro supervisor needs to make sure that all the packages in the distro will play nicely with each otherCan you describe your experience with Debian's supervisors and management team?
(Disclaimer, I have some personal experience with this exact topic.
It is handled in an effective mostly-anarchistic way, without any "management overhead", which I doubt the fine article's writers and readers can comprehend.
)
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29942720</id>
	<title>Re:Not influential to me</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257101880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I find it very hard to disagree with your list.  I am not completely sure that I'd put Ian Murdock on the second list - most of the things you dislike about Debian seem to have collected later and he's done some good work on OpenSolaris that makes up for Debian.  Marshall Kirk McKusick and Bill Joy both deserve to be near the top of the list for their respective achievements.  </p><p>
One person I'd add is Keith Packard.  He doesn't get much press coverage, but he is largely responsible for the fact that X.org is now feature-competitive with Apple's Quartz.  He's been involved with the project for a long time and has evolved the X system from a remote display system for 1-bit displays running multiple terminals to something with support for compositing, accelerated rendering, and so on.  Most importantly, he's done this without sacrificing backwards compatibility and without hard-coding policy decisions into the display server.  You can still fire up a xterm on a VAX running 4BSD (or whatever) today and display it on a handheld machine running Linux with X.org and have it render correctly.  Only now the drawing commands will be sent to an off-screen buffer and then composited in the display server according to a policy decided by something complex like Compiz or something simple like xcompmgr.  I can't think of any other project that has achieved that long a period of continual evolution without breaking (binary) compatibility or throwing away the entire codebase and starting again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I find it very hard to disagree with your list .
I am not completely sure that I 'd put Ian Murdock on the second list - most of the things you dislike about Debian seem to have collected later and he 's done some good work on OpenSolaris that makes up for Debian .
Marshall Kirk McKusick and Bill Joy both deserve to be near the top of the list for their respective achievements .
One person I 'd add is Keith Packard .
He does n't get much press coverage , but he is largely responsible for the fact that X.org is now feature-competitive with Apple 's Quartz .
He 's been involved with the project for a long time and has evolved the X system from a remote display system for 1-bit displays running multiple terminals to something with support for compositing , accelerated rendering , and so on .
Most importantly , he 's done this without sacrificing backwards compatibility and without hard-coding policy decisions into the display server .
You can still fire up a xterm on a VAX running 4BSD ( or whatever ) today and display it on a handheld machine running Linux with X.org and have it render correctly .
Only now the drawing commands will be sent to an off-screen buffer and then composited in the display server according to a policy decided by something complex like Compiz or something simple like xcompmgr .
I ca n't think of any other project that has achieved that long a period of continual evolution without breaking ( binary ) compatibility or throwing away the entire codebase and starting again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find it very hard to disagree with your list.
I am not completely sure that I'd put Ian Murdock on the second list - most of the things you dislike about Debian seem to have collected later and he's done some good work on OpenSolaris that makes up for Debian.
Marshall Kirk McKusick and Bill Joy both deserve to be near the top of the list for their respective achievements.
One person I'd add is Keith Packard.
He doesn't get much press coverage, but he is largely responsible for the fact that X.org is now feature-competitive with Apple's Quartz.
He's been involved with the project for a long time and has evolved the X system from a remote display system for 1-bit displays running multiple terminals to something with support for compositing, accelerated rendering, and so on.
Most importantly, he's done this without sacrificing backwards compatibility and without hard-coding policy decisions into the display server.
You can still fire up a xterm on a VAX running 4BSD (or whatever) today and display it on a handheld machine running Linux with X.org and have it render correctly.
Only now the drawing commands will be sent to an off-screen buffer and then composited in the display server according to a policy decided by something complex like Compiz or something simple like xcompmgr.
I can't think of any other project that has achieved that long a period of continual evolution without breaking (binary) compatibility or throwing away the entire codebase and starting again.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29942001</id>
	<title>My List</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257094200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>In no particular order:

Miguel de Icaza  -- Exploring/Pushing the boundaries between Propritary and OSS
Brian "Krow" Aker -- Leading a refactoring/reimaginging of Mysql in a trully open fashion, from within the same company.
Linus Torvolds -- duh
RMS -- double duh
mark shuttleworth -- don't especially like ubuntu, but lets face it: its big, and easy for noobs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In no particular order : Miguel de Icaza -- Exploring/Pushing the boundaries between Propritary and OSS Brian " Krow " Aker -- Leading a refactoring/reimaginging of Mysql in a trully open fashion , from within the same company .
Linus Torvolds -- duh RMS -- double duh mark shuttleworth -- do n't especially like ubuntu , but lets face it : its big , and easy for noobs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In no particular order:

Miguel de Icaza  -- Exploring/Pushing the boundaries between Propritary and OSS
Brian "Krow" Aker -- Leading a refactoring/reimaginging of Mysql in a trully open fashion, from within the same company.
Linus Torvolds -- duh
RMS -- double duh
mark shuttleworth -- don't especially like ubuntu, but lets face it: its big, and easy for noobs.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29948168</id>
	<title>influential Dutch</title>
	<author>Errtu76</author>
	<datestamp>1257194160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bram Moolenaar (vim)<br>Wietse Venema (postfix)<br>Guido van Rossum (python)<br>Stephen R. van den Berg (procmail)</p><p>Not the smallest programs either. Yeah i'm proud of my country<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bram Moolenaar ( vim ) Wietse Venema ( postfix ) Guido van Rossum ( python ) Stephen R. van den Berg ( procmail ) Not the smallest programs either .
Yeah i 'm proud of my country : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bram Moolenaar (vim)Wietse Venema (postfix)Guido van Rossum (python)Stephen R. van den Berg (procmail)Not the smallest programs either.
Yeah i'm proud of my country :)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29942646</id>
	<title>Re:Linus Torvalds is missing....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257101100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29941773</id>
	<title>My Open Source Hero: John C. Randolph</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257092160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A lot of people consider Linus, RMS, Larry Wall or Guido to be their Open Source Heroes. Not me. My Open Source Hero is John C. Randolph.</p><p>Now I know you're going to ask, Why is John C. Randolph your Open Source Hero? Let me tell you why!</p><p>First, he's a man of intelligence, integrity, experience and trust. When I see a USENET or Slashdot post signed with "-jcr", I know it's worth reading. Unlike much of the tripe here, I know that I will learn something new each time I indulge in reading one of his glorious posts.</p><p>Second, he says it as it is. When -jcr speaks, I listen.</p><p>Third, he's an expert when it comes to the technologies that came out of NeXT, and survive today as Mac OS X. Instead of having GNOME and KDE focusing on replicating Windows, like is so often the case, they should be focusing on replicating the NeXT/Apple experience. GNUstep tries, but they're just not there yet. Sometimes I have dreams that John unites those three projects into The Open Source Desktop, and then life is beautiful.</p><p>So there you have it. That is why John C. Randolph is my Open Source Hero.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A lot of people consider Linus , RMS , Larry Wall or Guido to be their Open Source Heroes .
Not me .
My Open Source Hero is John C. Randolph.Now I know you 're going to ask , Why is John C. Randolph your Open Source Hero ?
Let me tell you why ! First , he 's a man of intelligence , integrity , experience and trust .
When I see a USENET or Slashdot post signed with " -jcr " , I know it 's worth reading .
Unlike much of the tripe here , I know that I will learn something new each time I indulge in reading one of his glorious posts.Second , he says it as it is .
When -jcr speaks , I listen.Third , he 's an expert when it comes to the technologies that came out of NeXT , and survive today as Mac OS X. Instead of having GNOME and KDE focusing on replicating Windows , like is so often the case , they should be focusing on replicating the NeXT/Apple experience .
GNUstep tries , but they 're just not there yet .
Sometimes I have dreams that John unites those three projects into The Open Source Desktop , and then life is beautiful.So there you have it .
That is why John C. Randolph is my Open Source Hero .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A lot of people consider Linus, RMS, Larry Wall or Guido to be their Open Source Heroes.
Not me.
My Open Source Hero is John C. Randolph.Now I know you're going to ask, Why is John C. Randolph your Open Source Hero?
Let me tell you why!First, he's a man of intelligence, integrity, experience and trust.
When I see a USENET or Slashdot post signed with "-jcr", I know it's worth reading.
Unlike much of the tripe here, I know that I will learn something new each time I indulge in reading one of his glorious posts.Second, he says it as it is.
When -jcr speaks, I listen.Third, he's an expert when it comes to the technologies that came out of NeXT, and survive today as Mac OS X. Instead of having GNOME and KDE focusing on replicating Windows, like is so often the case, they should be focusing on replicating the NeXT/Apple experience.
GNUstep tries, but they're just not there yet.
Sometimes I have dreams that John unites those three projects into The Open Source Desktop, and then life is beautiful.So there you have it.
That is why John C. Randolph is my Open Source Hero.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29942608</id>
	<title>News for Businessmen, Not for Nerds</title>
	<author>progliberty</author>
	<datestamp>1257100680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is fluff of the type I used to see in WIRED, PCWorld, etc years ago. It is corporate back-patting garbage, of little interest to nerds and real programmers and engineers, many of us still unemployed because the Republicans destroyed America's economy. This is made-up tripe... kings and commissars anointing themselves with badges and awards for pretending to care about those of us below them. The emperor has no clothes. The idea of real and tangible freedom still shines brighter and truer than these corporate priests.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is fluff of the type I used to see in WIRED , PCWorld , etc years ago .
It is corporate back-patting garbage , of little interest to nerds and real programmers and engineers , many of us still unemployed because the Republicans destroyed America 's economy .
This is made-up tripe... kings and commissars anointing themselves with badges and awards for pretending to care about those of us below them .
The emperor has no clothes .
The idea of real and tangible freedom still shines brighter and truer than these corporate priests .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is fluff of the type I used to see in WIRED, PCWorld, etc years ago.
It is corporate back-patting garbage, of little interest to nerds and real programmers and engineers, many of us still unemployed because the Republicans destroyed America's economy.
This is made-up tripe... kings and commissars anointing themselves with badges and awards for pretending to care about those of us below them.
The emperor has no clothes.
The idea of real and tangible freedom still shines brighter and truer than these corporate priests.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29975336</id>
	<title>Re:Not influential to me</title>
	<author>alfino</author>
	<datestamp>1256982720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You think Debian is the worst? Don't use it then. Idiot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You think Debian is the worst ?
Do n't use it then .
Idiot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You think Debian is the worst?
Don't use it then.
Idiot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29947824</id>
	<title>Y'arrr!</title>
	<author>johngineer</author>
	<datestamp>1257102360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not a looker in the bunch!

(sorry, but it had to be said -- also, this list is a sausage-fest)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not a looker in the bunch !
( sorry , but it had to be said -- also , this list is a sausage-fest )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not a looker in the bunch!
(sorry, but it had to be said -- also, this list is a sausage-fest)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29941677</id>
	<title>Execs, etc</title>
	<author>Roebot</author>
	<datestamp>1257091260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I want to note there are a few who actually contribute code listed. BUT it's important to understand that this top influencers list was actually a byproduct of a survey conducted establishing best practices in open source sales and marketing. Hence the distinctly business slant.

This list of top influences has been so remarkably well received that we intend to do it every year. However, in the future survey we will include CTOs and VP of Engs in order to create two categories. Business/Law and engineering.

Thanks for the feedback. Please post additional suggestions to the post and we'll try out best to incorporate them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I want to note there are a few who actually contribute code listed .
BUT it 's important to understand that this top influencers list was actually a byproduct of a survey conducted establishing best practices in open source sales and marketing .
Hence the distinctly business slant .
This list of top influences has been so remarkably well received that we intend to do it every year .
However , in the future survey we will include CTOs and VP of Engs in order to create two categories .
Business/Law and engineering .
Thanks for the feedback .
Please post additional suggestions to the post and we 'll try out best to incorporate them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I want to note there are a few who actually contribute code listed.
BUT it's important to understand that this top influencers list was actually a byproduct of a survey conducted establishing best practices in open source sales and marketing.
Hence the distinctly business slant.
This list of top influences has been so remarkably well received that we intend to do it every year.
However, in the future survey we will include CTOs and VP of Engs in order to create two categories.
Business/Law and engineering.
Thanks for the feedback.
Please post additional suggestions to the post and we'll try out best to incorporate them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29941885</id>
	<title>Re:Execs, etc</title>
	<author>Vellmont</author>
	<datestamp>1257093060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow.  You've completely missed the whole culture of open source.  Your whole article assumes a completely different context.  Top influencer's of what?  Top influencer's of who?  Business guys?  Maybe.</p><p>What you seemed to have missed is that "Open Source" generally consists of the people doing the actual work writing the code, designing the infra-structure, etc.  It isn't like a traditional business where the Big Business Boys are in charge and call all the shots.  That's not to say it's completely grass roots either.  It really is Eric Raymond's Bazaar, and trying to shoehorn it into a traditional business structure and naming some CEOs with influence completely misses the point.  The fact that you think you can fix this by naming some CTOs and VPs of engineering in a separate list is extraordinarily telling that you have no idea what you're talking about.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow .
You 've completely missed the whole culture of open source .
Your whole article assumes a completely different context .
Top influencer 's of what ?
Top influencer 's of who ?
Business guys ?
Maybe.What you seemed to have missed is that " Open Source " generally consists of the people doing the actual work writing the code , designing the infra-structure , etc .
It is n't like a traditional business where the Big Business Boys are in charge and call all the shots .
That 's not to say it 's completely grass roots either .
It really is Eric Raymond 's Bazaar , and trying to shoehorn it into a traditional business structure and naming some CEOs with influence completely misses the point .
The fact that you think you can fix this by naming some CTOs and VPs of engineering in a separate list is extraordinarily telling that you have no idea what you 're talking about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow.
You've completely missed the whole culture of open source.
Your whole article assumes a completely different context.
Top influencer's of what?
Top influencer's of who?
Business guys?
Maybe.What you seemed to have missed is that "Open Source" generally consists of the people doing the actual work writing the code, designing the infra-structure, etc.
It isn't like a traditional business where the Big Business Boys are in charge and call all the shots.
That's not to say it's completely grass roots either.
It really is Eric Raymond's Bazaar, and trying to shoehorn it into a traditional business structure and naming some CEOs with influence completely misses the point.
The fact that you think you can fix this by naming some CTOs and VPs of engineering in a separate list is extraordinarily telling that you have no idea what you're talking about.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29942258</id>
	<title>Re:Fifty votes from "executives"?</title>
	<author>lawpoop</author>
	<datestamp>1257097140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, realistically, how much code can someone actually write? I think the most influential people are going to be those those who can corral and co-ordinate the efforts of disparate people to work together one one big project that no single person can handle alone. They maybe never even write code themselves.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , realistically , how much code can someone actually write ?
I think the most influential people are going to be those those who can corral and co-ordinate the efforts of disparate people to work together one one big project that no single person can handle alone .
They maybe never even write code themselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, realistically, how much code can someone actually write?
I think the most influential people are going to be those those who can corral and co-ordinate the efforts of disparate people to work together one one big project that no single person can handle alone.
They maybe never even write code themselves.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29941615</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29942976</id>
	<title>Steve Ballmer</title>
	<author>n3v</author>
	<datestamp>1257104460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because M$ sucks!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because M $ sucks !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because M$ sucks!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29949416</id>
	<title>Racism?</title>
	<author>Grendel Drago</author>
	<datestamp>1257171780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I'd estimate at some point after the racism, but before the terrorist paranoia.</p></div></blockquote><p>Wait, what? I thought that ESR's "I'm not a racist because I don't think I'm a racist" racism followed from his libertarian-flavored neoconservative ideology. Did he say or do something obnoxiously racist before 9/11?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd estimate at some point after the racism , but before the terrorist paranoia.Wait , what ?
I thought that ESR 's " I 'm not a racist because I do n't think I 'm a racist " racism followed from his libertarian-flavored neoconservative ideology .
Did he say or do something obnoxiously racist before 9/11 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd estimate at some point after the racism, but before the terrorist paranoia.Wait, what?
I thought that ESR's "I'm not a racist because I don't think I'm a racist" racism followed from his libertarian-flavored neoconservative ideology.
Did he say or do something obnoxiously racist before 9/11?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29941653</id>
	<title>Open Source Evangelism</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257091140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Relatedly, Matt Asay (who is also on the list) writes about the decreased need for open-source evangelism</i> <br>
&nbsp; <br>If anything, raving fanbois screaming that Microsoft is "teh suck" is doing more to hurt open source than help.<br>
&nbsp; <br>I'm a vegetarian. I don't preach to people about it. I don't need other people to follow my path to make me feel good about what I do but I always welcome those who are interested. I find that screaming at people for eating meat is annoying and counter productive. Instead I'd have much more success coming off as a rational being and helping people who want to be vegetarians become vegetarians. Thrusting my ideals on someone who is happy where they are at is only going to make them more at odds with me and my ideals.<br>
&nbsp; <br>They only way you're going to get someone who is happy with Windows or OSX to go Linux is to get apps that are Linux only that they just can't live without. That isn't happening today. These apps don't exist.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Relatedly , Matt Asay ( who is also on the list ) writes about the decreased need for open-source evangelism   If anything , raving fanbois screaming that Microsoft is " teh suck " is doing more to hurt open source than help .
  I 'm a vegetarian .
I do n't preach to people about it .
I do n't need other people to follow my path to make me feel good about what I do but I always welcome those who are interested .
I find that screaming at people for eating meat is annoying and counter productive .
Instead I 'd have much more success coming off as a rational being and helping people who want to be vegetarians become vegetarians .
Thrusting my ideals on someone who is happy where they are at is only going to make them more at odds with me and my ideals .
  They only way you 're going to get someone who is happy with Windows or OSX to go Linux is to get apps that are Linux only that they just ca n't live without .
That is n't happening today .
These apps do n't exist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Relatedly, Matt Asay (who is also on the list) writes about the decreased need for open-source evangelism 
  If anything, raving fanbois screaming that Microsoft is "teh suck" is doing more to hurt open source than help.
  I'm a vegetarian.
I don't preach to people about it.
I don't need other people to follow my path to make me feel good about what I do but I always welcome those who are interested.
I find that screaming at people for eating meat is annoying and counter productive.
Instead I'd have much more success coming off as a rational being and helping people who want to be vegetarians become vegetarians.
Thrusting my ideals on someone who is happy where they are at is only going to make them more at odds with me and my ideals.
  They only way you're going to get someone who is happy with Windows or OSX to go Linux is to get apps that are Linux only that they just can't live without.
That isn't happening today.
These apps don't exist.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29941933</id>
	<title>Re:Execs, etc</title>
	<author>slashdotmsiriv</author>
	<datestamp>1257093480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So this is a list that gives credit only to business people for the success of Open Source<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>You are missing: Linus Torvalds (Linux creator), Eric S. Raymond (Open Source advocate), Bruce Perens (started Debian Linux and coined the term &ldquo;Open Source&rdquo;), Richard Stallman (Free Software Foundation spiritual father),</p><p>If you were aiming to credit people with substantial influence in the business part of IT, then why did you omit:<br>Bob Young &amp; Marc Ewing (Red Hat founders) and Larry Page &amp; Sergey Brin (Google founders).</p><p>This is just a list of nobodies (OSS-wise) that at some point in their life decided to use OSS in their business<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... This is insulting really. Please no more<br>of these self-validation articles!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So this is a list that gives credit only to business people for the success of Open Source ...You are missing : Linus Torvalds ( Linux creator ) , Eric S. Raymond ( Open Source advocate ) , Bruce Perens ( started Debian Linux and coined the term    Open Source    ) , Richard Stallman ( Free Software Foundation spiritual father ) ,If you were aiming to credit people with substantial influence in the business part of IT , then why did you omit : Bob Young &amp; Marc Ewing ( Red Hat founders ) and Larry Page &amp; Sergey Brin ( Google founders ) .This is just a list of nobodies ( OSS-wise ) that at some point in their life decided to use OSS in their business ... This is insulting really .
Please no moreof these self-validation articles !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So this is a list that gives credit only to business people for the success of Open Source ...You are missing: Linus Torvalds (Linux creator), Eric S. Raymond (Open Source advocate), Bruce Perens (started Debian Linux and coined the term “Open Source”), Richard Stallman (Free Software Foundation spiritual father),If you were aiming to credit people with substantial influence in the business part of IT, then why did you omit:Bob Young &amp; Marc Ewing (Red Hat founders) and Larry Page &amp; Sergey Brin (Google founders).This is just a list of nobodies (OSS-wise) that at some point in their life decided to use OSS in their business ... This is insulting really.
Please no moreof these self-validation articles!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29947004</id>
	<title>Re:Not influential to me</title>
	<author>Vexorian</author>
	<datestamp>1257093300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I guess that you were modded insightful because you need to click "Read the rest of this comment" in order to read the incredibly nonsensical part of your post... Anyway, do notice that although "RMS is a zealot and an extremest that is a savage and a bane to Free and open source software" he and his likes have certainly not ever come close to show the sort of zealotry and biggotry in your post. I wonder if you are even conscious of the extremism you are showing by calling people "drones" or flaming debian like a typical fanboy of whatever Linux distro/*BSD  you prefer. It is the lack of maturity and being able to accept the contribution of others in your likes that ultimately drives people away from Open source/free software. By your childish statements you have shown a level of zealotry that beats the likes of RMS and Bruce Perens, congratulations.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess that you were modded insightful because you need to click " Read the rest of this comment " in order to read the incredibly nonsensical part of your post... Anyway , do notice that although " RMS is a zealot and an extremest that is a savage and a bane to Free and open source software " he and his likes have certainly not ever come close to show the sort of zealotry and biggotry in your post .
I wonder if you are even conscious of the extremism you are showing by calling people " drones " or flaming debian like a typical fanboy of whatever Linux distro/ * BSD you prefer .
It is the lack of maturity and being able to accept the contribution of others in your likes that ultimately drives people away from Open source/free software .
By your childish statements you have shown a level of zealotry that beats the likes of RMS and Bruce Perens , congratulations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess that you were modded insightful because you need to click "Read the rest of this comment" in order to read the incredibly nonsensical part of your post... Anyway, do notice that although "RMS is a zealot and an extremest that is a savage and a bane to Free and open source software" he and his likes have certainly not ever come close to show the sort of zealotry and biggotry in your post.
I wonder if you are even conscious of the extremism you are showing by calling people "drones" or flaming debian like a typical fanboy of whatever Linux distro/*BSD  you prefer.
It is the lack of maturity and being able to accept the contribution of others in your likes that ultimately drives people away from Open source/free software.
By your childish statements you have shown a level of zealotry that beats the likes of RMS and Bruce Perens, congratulations.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29941713</id>
	<title>This list is disappointing.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257091620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, a list of white male millionaires. Classy.</p><p>This list is disappointing. It doesn't include Richard Stallman, Linus Torvalds, Larry Wall, Bruce Perens, Tim O'Reilly, Eric S. Raymond, Paul Vixie, Eric Allman, Andrew Tridgell, Mark Spencer, et al. et al.</p><p>All it proves is that these fifty people really have no idea (and don't care) where open software comes from.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , a list of white male millionaires .
Classy.This list is disappointing .
It does n't include Richard Stallman , Linus Torvalds , Larry Wall , Bruce Perens , Tim O'Reilly , Eric S. Raymond , Paul Vixie , Eric Allman , Andrew Tridgell , Mark Spencer , et al .
et al.All it proves is that these fifty people really have no idea ( and do n't care ) where open software comes from .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, a list of white male millionaires.
Classy.This list is disappointing.
It doesn't include Richard Stallman, Linus Torvalds, Larry Wall, Bruce Perens, Tim O'Reilly, Eric S. Raymond, Paul Vixie, Eric Allman, Andrew Tridgell, Mark Spencer, et al.
et al.All it proves is that these fifty people really have no idea (and don't care) where open software comes from.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29949784</id>
	<title>Re:Slashdot power to the rescue!</title>
	<author>Ash Vince</author>
	<datestamp>1257174900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hope you do not think Richard Stallman actually encourages anyone to adopt open source? He drives people away from it with his complete lack of any personal hygiene and fanaticism. People like Torvalds and Perens do belong on such a list in my opinion as they are far more pragmatic and actually encourage its adoption.</p><p>Part of this encouragement in the case of Linus is his stance on kernel development. He is very reluctant to include changes that will adversely effect any subset of its current users. While Linux occasional non-responsiveness on the desktop has been annoying to me at times, the fact that behind the scenes processing running as root can take priority does make perfect sense when I have my server admin hat on.</p><p>Bruce Perens similarly has been an excellent proponent of Linux for many years while also maintaining a level headed approach. This is most evident by looking at the list of organisations that have paid to hear his point of view.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope you do not think Richard Stallman actually encourages anyone to adopt open source ?
He drives people away from it with his complete lack of any personal hygiene and fanaticism .
People like Torvalds and Perens do belong on such a list in my opinion as they are far more pragmatic and actually encourage its adoption.Part of this encouragement in the case of Linus is his stance on kernel development .
He is very reluctant to include changes that will adversely effect any subset of its current users .
While Linux occasional non-responsiveness on the desktop has been annoying to me at times , the fact that behind the scenes processing running as root can take priority does make perfect sense when I have my server admin hat on.Bruce Perens similarly has been an excellent proponent of Linux for many years while also maintaining a level headed approach .
This is most evident by looking at the list of organisations that have paid to hear his point of view .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope you do not think Richard Stallman actually encourages anyone to adopt open source?
He drives people away from it with his complete lack of any personal hygiene and fanaticism.
People like Torvalds and Perens do belong on such a list in my opinion as they are far more pragmatic and actually encourage its adoption.Part of this encouragement in the case of Linus is his stance on kernel development.
He is very reluctant to include changes that will adversely effect any subset of its current users.
While Linux occasional non-responsiveness on the desktop has been annoying to me at times, the fact that behind the scenes processing running as root can take priority does make perfect sense when I have my server admin hat on.Bruce Perens similarly has been an excellent proponent of Linux for many years while also maintaining a level headed approach.
This is most evident by looking at the list of organisations that have paid to hear his point of view.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29952954</id>
	<title>Re:Influential Women</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257190620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was pleased to meet Leslie this summer at OSCON.</p><p>Rock on, Leslie!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was pleased to meet Leslie this summer at OSCON.Rock on , Leslie !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was pleased to meet Leslie this summer at OSCON.Rock on, Leslie!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29942163</id>
	<title>Not influential to me</title>
	<author>petrus4</author>
	<datestamp>1257095760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I either haven't heard of these people, or I don't care about them.  Also, nearly everyone listed is either a CEO or board member of a corporation.</p><p>First, the hall of fame:-</p><ul> <li>Eric Raymond.  <a href="http://catb.org/esr/writings/taoup/html/" title="catb.org" rel="nofollow">The Art of UNIX Programming</a> [catb.org] has a permanently open tab in Firefox for me.<p> <i>"And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:  And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.  And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.  And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates."</i> <br>-- Deuteronomy, 6:6</p></li><li>Jordan Hubbard.  He was the initial author of the ports system for FreeBSD.  He was also, I believe, the leader of that project before going to work for Apple.</li><li>Marshall Kirk McKusick.  Author of both the first and second filesystems for FreeBSD, and designer of the Beastie mascot.</li><li>Patrick Volkerding.  He is the leader of the Slackware Linux project, which was the first Linux distribution I ever used, and still, I believe, the finest in existence.</li><li>William and Lynn Jolitz.  The co-authors of the 386BSD project, and in that sense, Computer Science's answer to the Curies.</li><li>Bill Joy.  Author of the original vi.</li><li>Bram Moolenaar.  Founder and maintainer of the Vim project.</li><li>Gerard Beekmans.  Founder of the Linux From Scratch project.</li><li>Linus Torvalds.  I don't need to mention who Linus is.  However, I'm also not mentioning him purely because it is politically correct to do so.  I mention him here because I've looked through the code of his 0.1 Linux release.  Linux might be a bloated horror now, but back then, it was poetry.</li><li>Bob Young, and Marc Ewing.  The founders of Red Hat.  Red Hat eventually abandoned the end user market for the enterprise sector, but they made a game try at creating an end user distribution first.  Red Hat contributed a number of key programs to early Linux distributions, including the RPM package manager, and Anaconda hardware detection software.  They also now largely fund the continued development of the GNU project.</li><li>Ulrich Drepper.  I will admit that I think Glibc is a bloated mess, but Ulrich displayed courage in once drawing attention to the megalomania of Richard Stallman.  For that, I admire him.</li><li>Daniel Robbins.  Founder of both the Gentoo and Funtoo projects, and an awesome bash scripter.</li><li>Theo de Raadt.  Leader of the OpenBSD project.  Theo is an individual who understands what both the correct philosophy and methods are, behind developing software, and is not afraid to continue to follow said beliefs, irrespective of the project's detractors.  His manner might, at times, emulate that of Erin Brockovich, but I still admire him despite that, and believe that his intelligence is matched only by his tenacity.</li></ul><p>And now, the hall of shame:-</p><ul> <li>Richard Stallman.  This is an individual who scarcely needs introduction on Slashdot, either; however I consider him the Magneto to Raymond's Xavier.  The Free Software Foundation is the archetypical destructive cult, and Stallman has become as much a bane to Free and Open Source Software as he ever may have originally been a blessing.  The savagery that I will likely be shown by his followers, for placing him here, will only further prove that point.</li><li>Bradley Kuhn.  He has stated that his ideal is a scenario where the GPL is the only FOSS license in existence.</li><li>Ian Murdock.  Founder of the Debian project, which is, after Stallman and his drone army, the single greatest source of emotional pain for me, where FOSS is concerned.  His original intentions might have been good, but I continue to consider Debian a titanically bloated, excessively complex obscenity, in both technical and social terms.  It is the worst Linux distributio</li></ul></htmltext>
<tokenext>I either have n't heard of these people , or I do n't care about them .
Also , nearly everyone listed is either a CEO or board member of a corporation.First , the hall of fame : - Eric Raymond .
The Art of UNIX Programming [ catb.org ] has a permanently open tab in Firefox for me .
" And these words , which I command thee this day , shall be in thine heart : And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children , and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house , and when thou walkest by the way , and when thou liest down , and when thou risest up .
And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand , and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes .
And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house , and on thy gates .
" -- Deuteronomy , 6 : 6Jordan Hubbard .
He was the initial author of the ports system for FreeBSD .
He was also , I believe , the leader of that project before going to work for Apple.Marshall Kirk McKusick .
Author of both the first and second filesystems for FreeBSD , and designer of the Beastie mascot.Patrick Volkerding .
He is the leader of the Slackware Linux project , which was the first Linux distribution I ever used , and still , I believe , the finest in existence.William and Lynn Jolitz .
The co-authors of the 386BSD project , and in that sense , Computer Science 's answer to the Curies.Bill Joy .
Author of the original vi.Bram Moolenaar .
Founder and maintainer of the Vim project.Gerard Beekmans .
Founder of the Linux From Scratch project.Linus Torvalds .
I do n't need to mention who Linus is .
However , I 'm also not mentioning him purely because it is politically correct to do so .
I mention him here because I 've looked through the code of his 0.1 Linux release .
Linux might be a bloated horror now , but back then , it was poetry.Bob Young , and Marc Ewing .
The founders of Red Hat .
Red Hat eventually abandoned the end user market for the enterprise sector , but they made a game try at creating an end user distribution first .
Red Hat contributed a number of key programs to early Linux distributions , including the RPM package manager , and Anaconda hardware detection software .
They also now largely fund the continued development of the GNU project.Ulrich Drepper .
I will admit that I think Glibc is a bloated mess , but Ulrich displayed courage in once drawing attention to the megalomania of Richard Stallman .
For that , I admire him.Daniel Robbins .
Founder of both the Gentoo and Funtoo projects , and an awesome bash scripter.Theo de Raadt .
Leader of the OpenBSD project .
Theo is an individual who understands what both the correct philosophy and methods are , behind developing software , and is not afraid to continue to follow said beliefs , irrespective of the project 's detractors .
His manner might , at times , emulate that of Erin Brockovich , but I still admire him despite that , and believe that his intelligence is matched only by his tenacity.And now , the hall of shame : - Richard Stallman .
This is an individual who scarcely needs introduction on Slashdot , either ; however I consider him the Magneto to Raymond 's Xavier .
The Free Software Foundation is the archetypical destructive cult , and Stallman has become as much a bane to Free and Open Source Software as he ever may have originally been a blessing .
The savagery that I will likely be shown by his followers , for placing him here , will only further prove that point.Bradley Kuhn .
He has stated that his ideal is a scenario where the GPL is the only FOSS license in existence.Ian Murdock .
Founder of the Debian project , which is , after Stallman and his drone army , the single greatest source of emotional pain for me , where FOSS is concerned .
His original intentions might have been good , but I continue to consider Debian a titanically bloated , excessively complex obscenity , in both technical and social terms .
It is the worst Linux distributio</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I either haven't heard of these people, or I don't care about them.
Also, nearly everyone listed is either a CEO or board member of a corporation.First, the hall of fame:- Eric Raymond.
The Art of UNIX Programming [catb.org] has a permanently open tab in Firefox for me.
"And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:  And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.
And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.
And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates.
" -- Deuteronomy, 6:6Jordan Hubbard.
He was the initial author of the ports system for FreeBSD.
He was also, I believe, the leader of that project before going to work for Apple.Marshall Kirk McKusick.
Author of both the first and second filesystems for FreeBSD, and designer of the Beastie mascot.Patrick Volkerding.
He is the leader of the Slackware Linux project, which was the first Linux distribution I ever used, and still, I believe, the finest in existence.William and Lynn Jolitz.
The co-authors of the 386BSD project, and in that sense, Computer Science's answer to the Curies.Bill Joy.
Author of the original vi.Bram Moolenaar.
Founder and maintainer of the Vim project.Gerard Beekmans.
Founder of the Linux From Scratch project.Linus Torvalds.
I don't need to mention who Linus is.
However, I'm also not mentioning him purely because it is politically correct to do so.
I mention him here because I've looked through the code of his 0.1 Linux release.
Linux might be a bloated horror now, but back then, it was poetry.Bob Young, and Marc Ewing.
The founders of Red Hat.
Red Hat eventually abandoned the end user market for the enterprise sector, but they made a game try at creating an end user distribution first.
Red Hat contributed a number of key programs to early Linux distributions, including the RPM package manager, and Anaconda hardware detection software.
They also now largely fund the continued development of the GNU project.Ulrich Drepper.
I will admit that I think Glibc is a bloated mess, but Ulrich displayed courage in once drawing attention to the megalomania of Richard Stallman.
For that, I admire him.Daniel Robbins.
Founder of both the Gentoo and Funtoo projects, and an awesome bash scripter.Theo de Raadt.
Leader of the OpenBSD project.
Theo is an individual who understands what both the correct philosophy and methods are, behind developing software, and is not afraid to continue to follow said beliefs, irrespective of the project's detractors.
His manner might, at times, emulate that of Erin Brockovich, but I still admire him despite that, and believe that his intelligence is matched only by his tenacity.And now, the hall of shame:- Richard Stallman.
This is an individual who scarcely needs introduction on Slashdot, either; however I consider him the Magneto to Raymond's Xavier.
The Free Software Foundation is the archetypical destructive cult, and Stallman has become as much a bane to Free and Open Source Software as he ever may have originally been a blessing.
The savagery that I will likely be shown by his followers, for placing him here, will only further prove that point.Bradley Kuhn.
He has stated that his ideal is a scenario where the GPL is the only FOSS license in existence.Ian Murdock.
Founder of the Debian project, which is, after Stallman and his drone army, the single greatest source of emotional pain for me, where FOSS is concerned.
His original intentions might have been good, but I continue to consider Debian a titanically bloated, excessively complex obscenity, in both technical and social terms.
It is the worst Linux distributio</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29942766</id>
	<title>Matt Asay?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257102600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You mean the guy who claims he is an open source legal expert and doesn't know the difference between copyright and patents?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean the guy who claims he is an open source legal expert and does n't know the difference between copyright and patents ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean the guy who claims he is an open source legal expert and doesn't know the difference between copyright and patents?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29942862</id>
	<title>Slashdot power to the rescue!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257103380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>WTF indeed. Let the Slashdot community make a better list. Beginning with some suggestions from TFA (I admit I actually, you know, read it...) comments</p><p>Richard Stallman<br>Linus Torvalds<br>Eric S. Raymond<br>Bruce Perens<br>Tim O&rsquo;Reilly</p><p>
&nbsp; Also<br>Bob Young &amp; Marc Ewing (Red Hat founders) and<br>Larry Page &amp; Sergey Brin (Google founders)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>WTF indeed .
Let the Slashdot community make a better list .
Beginning with some suggestions from TFA ( I admit I actually , you know , read it... ) commentsRichard StallmanLinus TorvaldsEric S. RaymondBruce PerensTim O    Reilly   AlsoBob Young &amp; Marc Ewing ( Red Hat founders ) andLarry Page &amp; Sergey Brin ( Google founders )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WTF indeed.
Let the Slashdot community make a better list.
Beginning with some suggestions from TFA (I admit I actually, you know, read it...) commentsRichard StallmanLinus TorvaldsEric S. RaymondBruce PerensTim O’Reilly
  AlsoBob Young &amp; Marc Ewing (Red Hat founders) andLarry Page &amp; Sergey Brin (Google founders)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29951068</id>
	<title>Re:Top two "influencers" are MIndtouch board membe</title>
	<author>fm6</author>
	<datestamp>1257181740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Another issue with MindTouch: it's a little hypocritical of them to boast about their role in the OS community. You won't find their source code repository without resorting to Google.</p><p>Mind you, it's perfectly legitimate to monetize an OS product by building a commercial product around it. But there's more to being Open Source than honoring the letter of your OS-friendly license. It's about engaging with a community of OS developers. Without that, you're just a proprietary vendor that happens to publish some of your source code.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Another issue with MindTouch : it 's a little hypocritical of them to boast about their role in the OS community .
You wo n't find their source code repository without resorting to Google.Mind you , it 's perfectly legitimate to monetize an OS product by building a commercial product around it .
But there 's more to being Open Source than honoring the letter of your OS-friendly license .
It 's about engaging with a community of OS developers .
Without that , you 're just a proprietary vendor that happens to publish some of your source code .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Another issue with MindTouch: it's a little hypocritical of them to boast about their role in the OS community.
You won't find their source code repository without resorting to Google.Mind you, it's perfectly legitimate to monetize an OS product by building a commercial product around it.
But there's more to being Open Source than honoring the letter of your OS-friendly license.
It's about engaging with a community of OS developers.
Without that, you're just a proprietary vendor that happens to publish some of your source code.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29941615</id>
	<title>Fifty votes from "executives"?</title>
	<author>jcr</author>
	<datestamp>1257090840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, no votes from anyone who's actually, you know, <i>writing any open source code</i>?</p><p>-jcr</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , no votes from anyone who 's actually , you know , writing any open source code ? -jcr</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, no votes from anyone who's actually, you know, writing any open source code?-jcr</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29942055</id>
	<title>But what about...</title>
	<author>lucm</author>
	<datestamp>1257094800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...Darl McBride? I think he is someone who had an effect on the open source industry.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...Darl McBride ?
I think he is someone who had an effect on the open source industry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...Darl McBride?
I think he is someone who had an effect on the open source industry.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29941721</id>
	<title>Linus Torvalds is missing....</title>
	<author>Ritz\_Just\_Ritz</author>
	<datestamp>1257091740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>I'd say he's still fairly influential in the open source community.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd say he 's still fairly influential in the open source community .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd say he's still fairly influential in the open source community.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29941833</id>
	<title>Re:WTF?</title>
	<author>Roebot</author>
	<datestamp>1257092520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>You have never heard of VA Linux, Sourceforge, SugarCRM, Redhat, Alfresco, Drupal? Really?</htmltext>
<tokenext>You have never heard of VA Linux , Sourceforge , SugarCRM , Redhat , Alfresco , Drupal ?
Really ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have never heard of VA Linux, Sourceforge, SugarCRM, Redhat, Alfresco, Drupal?
Really?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29942442</id>
	<title>Re:Not influential to me</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257098940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Code infrequently, carry a big axe.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Code infrequently , carry a big axe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Code infrequently, carry a big axe.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29941733</id>
	<title>Influence</title>
	<author>Wowsers</author>
	<datestamp>1257091800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd like to think that the end users are the most influential people in open source projects.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd like to think that the end users are the most influential people in open source projects .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd like to think that the end users are the most influential people in open source projects.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29942824</id>
	<title>Re:Execs, etc</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257103080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Be a bit fair. The names you listed are all old. If they are going to do a anual listing of importent OSS people, then they should at least aim for current/new people in that year. That means it'll most likely be people you never heard of, people that did something namable that year. No point reinterating what everyone already knows, after all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Be a bit fair .
The names you listed are all old .
If they are going to do a anual listing of importent OSS people , then they should at least aim for current/new people in that year .
That means it 'll most likely be people you never heard of , people that did something namable that year .
No point reinterating what everyone already knows , after all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Be a bit fair.
The names you listed are all old.
If they are going to do a anual listing of importent OSS people, then they should at least aim for current/new people in that year.
That means it'll most likely be people you never heard of, people that did something namable that year.
No point reinterating what everyone already knows, after all.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29944166</id>
	<title>Dries? WTF?</title>
	<author>message144</author>
	<datestamp>1257069420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This guy created the huge sloppy mess that is Drupal. I suppose it may have been influential in that it has influenced developers to look for more mature, well-planned, scalable solutions. Drupal is hardly something the open source community should be proud of.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This guy created the huge sloppy mess that is Drupal .
I suppose it may have been influential in that it has influenced developers to look for more mature , well-planned , scalable solutions .
Drupal is hardly something the open source community should be proud of .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This guy created the huge sloppy mess that is Drupal.
I suppose it may have been influential in that it has influenced developers to look for more mature, well-planned, scalable solutions.
Drupal is hardly something the open source community should be proud of.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29948258</id>
	<title>Re:Infuential People in Open Source Marketing?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257152820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29946082</id>
	<title>Mitchell Baker?</title>
	<author>Trip6</author>
	<datestamp>1257085200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Firefox has had over a billion downloads - that's not influential??</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Firefox has had over a billion downloads - that 's not influential ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Firefox has had over a billion downloads - that's not influential?
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29951878</id>
	<title>Re:Slashdot power to the rescue!</title>
	<author>sqldr</author>
	<datestamp>1257185280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That guy who put that bug in debian's openssl package (which went downstream to ubuntu, et all) making any certificate generated on debian/ubuntu completely insecure, resulting in thousands upon thousands of open source users flooding verisign et all with even more thousands of certificate update requests and a huge international security headache.</p><p>I'd say he was pretty influential.. he ruined nearly my entire week<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That guy who put that bug in debian 's openssl package ( which went downstream to ubuntu , et all ) making any certificate generated on debian/ubuntu completely insecure , resulting in thousands upon thousands of open source users flooding verisign et all with even more thousands of certificate update requests and a huge international security headache.I 'd say he was pretty influential.. he ruined nearly my entire week : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That guy who put that bug in debian's openssl package (which went downstream to ubuntu, et all) making any certificate generated on debian/ubuntu completely insecure, resulting in thousands upon thousands of open source users flooding verisign et all with even more thousands of certificate update requests and a huge international security headache.I'd say he was pretty influential.. he ruined nearly my entire week :-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29942268</id>
	<title>Re:Open Source Evangelism</title>
	<author>Alwin Henseler</author>
	<datestamp>1257097320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They only way you're going to get someone who is happy with Windows or OSX to go Linux is to get apps that are Linux only that they just can't live without.</p></div><p>... Or to have it pre-installed on their new computer.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They only way you 're going to get someone who is happy with Windows or OSX to go Linux is to get apps that are Linux only that they just ca n't live without.... Or to have it pre-installed on their new computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They only way you're going to get someone who is happy with Windows or OSX to go Linux is to get apps that are Linux only that they just can't live without.... Or to have it pre-installed on their new computer.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29941653</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29946748</id>
	<title>Re:WTF?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257090960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"MindTouch asked C and VP level..." should have been you're first clue.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" MindTouch asked C and VP level... " should have been you 're first clue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"MindTouch asked C and VP level..." should have been you're first clue.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29941597</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29945304</id>
	<title>Women?</title>
	<author>JAlexoi</author>
	<datestamp>1257077700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Let us just have reality take over. How many women do you know that will "work" after work? None of my colleagues are willing or even think about work after 5. None of men, that stop work at 5 are ever promoted. The reason that women are out of the list, is because they "have better things to do in their lives". Like watching the next episode of some soap opera or do gardening. I am however sorry for those women that have to work double(and sacrifice double) to overcome the fact, that most of their "sisters" are exactly the opposite.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Let us just have reality take over .
How many women do you know that will " work " after work ?
None of my colleagues are willing or even think about work after 5 .
None of men , that stop work at 5 are ever promoted .
The reason that women are out of the list , is because they " have better things to do in their lives " .
Like watching the next episode of some soap opera or do gardening .
I am however sorry for those women that have to work double ( and sacrifice double ) to overcome the fact , that most of their " sisters " are exactly the opposite .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let us just have reality take over.
How many women do you know that will "work" after work?
None of my colleagues are willing or even think about work after 5.
None of men, that stop work at 5 are ever promoted.
The reason that women are out of the list, is because they "have better things to do in their lives".
Like watching the next episode of some soap opera or do gardening.
I am however sorry for those women that have to work double(and sacrifice double) to overcome the fact, that most of their "sisters" are exactly the opposite.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29942007</id>
	<title>Infuential People in Open Source Marketing?</title>
	<author>Rotten</author>
	<datestamp>1257094260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think that "Open Source" means something different to me..maybe I'm getting older... Does the whole idea of "Open Source" has been kidnaped by the corporate *bs* and rebranded with a new background, meaning and of course, new corporate "heroes"?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that " Open Source " means something different to me..maybe I 'm getting older... Does the whole idea of " Open Source " has been kidnaped by the corporate * bs * and rebranded with a new background , meaning and of course , new corporate " heroes " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that "Open Source" means something different to me..maybe I'm getting older... Does the whole idea of "Open Source" has been kidnaped by the corporate *bs* and rebranded with a new background, meaning and of course, new corporate "heroes"?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29941595</id>
	<title>Bill Gates?</title>
	<author>vawarayer</author>
	<datestamp>1257090720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Someone who makes us want to look for alternatives?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Someone who makes us want to look for alternatives ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someone who makes us want to look for alternatives?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29941603</id>
	<title>Interesting list, more current than most</title>
	<author>Night Goat</author>
	<datestamp>1257090780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Although the article was very thin on details, I thought that it was worthwhile. It put a new spin on things because the list dealt with who was <b>currently</b> influential, rather than trotting out the old names that we've seen on lists like this for the last fifteen years. I realized after reading the article that I just don't care that much, though. Good thing they chose corporate types to put together this list, since they'll get a charge out of reading it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Although the article was very thin on details , I thought that it was worthwhile .
It put a new spin on things because the list dealt with who was currently influential , rather than trotting out the old names that we 've seen on lists like this for the last fifteen years .
I realized after reading the article that I just do n't care that much , though .
Good thing they chose corporate types to put together this list , since they 'll get a charge out of reading it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Although the article was very thin on details, I thought that it was worthwhile.
It put a new spin on things because the list dealt with who was currently influential, rather than trotting out the old names that we've seen on lists like this for the last fifteen years.
I realized after reading the article that I just don't care that much, though.
Good thing they chose corporate types to put together this list, since they'll get a charge out of reading it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29942392</id>
	<title>Re:WTF?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257098520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do we really have to go over this?</p><p>"The list is ranked by the effect these individuals have had on the open source industry."</p><p>And all you had to read was the summary. These people were not selected for their influence on Slashdot.</p><p>I suppose you could argue against what the summary claims, but "nobody's ever heard of them" is the kind of typical Slashdot argument that doesn't go anywhere.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do we really have to go over this ?
" The list is ranked by the effect these individuals have had on the open source industry .
" And all you had to read was the summary .
These people were not selected for their influence on Slashdot.I suppose you could argue against what the summary claims , but " nobody 's ever heard of them " is the kind of typical Slashdot argument that does n't go anywhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do we really have to go over this?
"The list is ranked by the effect these individuals have had on the open source industry.
"And all you had to read was the summary.
These people were not selected for their influence on Slashdot.I suppose you could argue against what the summary claims, but "nobody's ever heard of them" is the kind of typical Slashdot argument that doesn't go anywhere.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29942332</id>
	<title>List grossly misses the point</title>
	<author>blind biker</author>
	<datestamp>1257098040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>..and the point of open source is a number of people offering their source code to everyone. These people are the source of "open source", and the names on that list don't resonate with that crowd, hence they are not influential. The list should include notable (and leading) contributors to such project as Firefox, Linux, Net/Open/FreeBSD, OpenOffice, SAMBA, Wine, OpenSolaris, etc. (I am sure I missed a lot of important OS projects, please do forgive me in advance).</p><p>It's just another case of epitomizing the managers over the engineers - yes, it's a cliche, but it fits. Managers just can't seem to be satisfied with raking in the most dough - they need the kick of fame, too, even though in the OS world they are the least relevant - remember, cathedral vs. bazaar.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>..and the point of open source is a number of people offering their source code to everyone .
These people are the source of " open source " , and the names on that list do n't resonate with that crowd , hence they are not influential .
The list should include notable ( and leading ) contributors to such project as Firefox , Linux , Net/Open/FreeBSD , OpenOffice , SAMBA , Wine , OpenSolaris , etc .
( I am sure I missed a lot of important OS projects , please do forgive me in advance ) .It 's just another case of epitomizing the managers over the engineers - yes , it 's a cliche , but it fits .
Managers just ca n't seem to be satisfied with raking in the most dough - they need the kick of fame , too , even though in the OS world they are the least relevant - remember , cathedral vs. bazaar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>..and the point of open source is a number of people offering their source code to everyone.
These people are the source of "open source", and the names on that list don't resonate with that crowd, hence they are not influential.
The list should include notable (and leading) contributors to such project as Firefox, Linux, Net/Open/FreeBSD, OpenOffice, SAMBA, Wine, OpenSolaris, etc.
(I am sure I missed a lot of important OS projects, please do forgive me in advance).It's just another case of epitomizing the managers over the engineers - yes, it's a cliche, but it fits.
Managers just can't seem to be satisfied with raking in the most dough - they need the kick of fame, too, even though in the OS world they are the least relevant - remember, cathedral vs. bazaar.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29942147</id>
	<title>Re:Influential Women</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257095700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hate to break it to you, but organizing thousands of developers is nothing new in open source.  Look at the big Linux distros, and how their leaders keep everyone in line and organized.  You think GSoC is difficult to organize?  Try managing Debian or Fedora, where you have to deal not only with your own people and finances, but also with upstream maintainers and the weird decisions they make.  GSoC involves keeping all the different, largely unrelated projects in line; a Linux distro supervisor needs to make sure that all the packages in the distro will play nicely with each other.  Distro maintainers also have to deal with users, who sometimes make absurd demands and are insulted when they do not get what they want (e.g. the people who demand that Fedora ship with SELinux disabled by default).<br> <br>

Not to make Leslie Hawthorn's task seem easy, but I would hardly call her the most influential open source leader out there.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hate to break it to you , but organizing thousands of developers is nothing new in open source .
Look at the big Linux distros , and how their leaders keep everyone in line and organized .
You think GSoC is difficult to organize ?
Try managing Debian or Fedora , where you have to deal not only with your own people and finances , but also with upstream maintainers and the weird decisions they make .
GSoC involves keeping all the different , largely unrelated projects in line ; a Linux distro supervisor needs to make sure that all the packages in the distro will play nicely with each other .
Distro maintainers also have to deal with users , who sometimes make absurd demands and are insulted when they do not get what they want ( e.g .
the people who demand that Fedora ship with SELinux disabled by default ) .
Not to make Leslie Hawthorn 's task seem easy , but I would hardly call her the most influential open source leader out there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hate to break it to you, but organizing thousands of developers is nothing new in open source.
Look at the big Linux distros, and how their leaders keep everyone in line and organized.
You think GSoC is difficult to organize?
Try managing Debian or Fedora, where you have to deal not only with your own people and finances, but also with upstream maintainers and the weird decisions they make.
GSoC involves keeping all the different, largely unrelated projects in line; a Linux distro supervisor needs to make sure that all the packages in the distro will play nicely with each other.
Distro maintainers also have to deal with users, who sometimes make absurd demands and are insulted when they do not get what they want (e.g.
the people who demand that Fedora ship with SELinux disabled by default).
Not to make Leslie Hawthorn's task seem easy, but I would hardly call her the most influential open source leader out there.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29943130</id>
	<title>Re:This list is disappointing.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257105660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Yeah, a list of white male millionaires. Classy.</p></div><p>Yes, they are.</p><p>Does that prove that white males are the only ones who have the guts to make a difference?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , a list of white male millionaires .
Classy.Yes , they are.Does that prove that white males are the only ones who have the guts to make a difference ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, a list of white male millionaires.
Classy.Yes, they are.Does that prove that white males are the only ones who have the guts to make a difference?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29941877</id>
	<title>Who cares about open source?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257093000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If that were Free Software on the other hand...</p><p><a href="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html" title="gnu.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html</a> [gnu.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If that were Free Software on the other hand...http : //www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html [ gnu.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If that were Free Software on the other hand...http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html [gnu.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29941831</id>
	<title>Please, NOT Eric Raymond, right?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257092520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I could get on board with almost anything here, but please! please..PLEASE!:<br>No More Eric fricking (I am so full of myself) Raymond.</p><p>I am not going to read the list (just in case).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I could get on board with almost anything here , but please !
please..PLEASE ! : No More Eric fricking ( I am so full of myself ) Raymond.I am not going to read the list ( just in case ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I could get on board with almost anything here, but please!
please..PLEASE!:No More Eric fricking (I am so full of myself) Raymond.I am not going to read the list (just in case).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29944572</id>
	<title>Re:Infuential People in Open Source Marketing?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257072060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Open Source" was specifically <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History\_of\_free\_and\_open\_source\_software#The\_launch\_of\_Open\_Source" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">created</a> [wikipedia.org] to be a non-threatening, business friendly euphemism for "Free Software".  It has hardly been "kidnapped" by the corporate *bs*, since it was their own creation and has always belonged to them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Open Source " was specifically created [ wikipedia.org ] to be a non-threatening , business friendly euphemism for " Free Software " .
It has hardly been " kidnapped " by the corporate * bs * , since it was their own creation and has always belonged to them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Open Source" was specifically created [wikipedia.org] to be a non-threatening, business friendly euphemism for "Free Software".
It has hardly been "kidnapped" by the corporate *bs*, since it was their own creation and has always belonged to them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29944104</id>
	<title>Re:Slashdot power to the rescue!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257069060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think Pamela Jones (PJ) of Groklaw should be mentioned.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think Pamela Jones ( PJ ) of Groklaw should be mentioned .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think Pamela Jones (PJ) of Groklaw should be mentioned.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29942862</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29949654</id>
	<title>Re:Execs, etc</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257174060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Remarkably well received by whom?  Your readers?</p><p>I know salesmen like to exaggerate, but these people are not the most influential in the "open source industry", despite how you title your blog posts.  They may be the most influential in a niche.  Best for you that you clearly identify that niche, before you are subjected to quite a bit of ridicule by the people who actually make the products you're trying to peddle.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Remarkably well received by whom ?
Your readers ? I know salesmen like to exaggerate , but these people are not the most influential in the " open source industry " , despite how you title your blog posts .
They may be the most influential in a niche .
Best for you that you clearly identify that niche , before you are subjected to quite a bit of ridicule by the people who actually make the products you 're trying to peddle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Remarkably well received by whom?
Your readers?I know salesmen like to exaggerate, but these people are not the most influential in the "open source industry", despite how you title your blog posts.
They may be the most influential in a niche.
Best for you that you clearly identify that niche, before you are subjected to quite a bit of ridicule by the people who actually make the products you're trying to peddle.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29942219</id>
	<title>Re:WTF?</title>
	<author>wondershit</author>
	<datestamp>1257096300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think you confuse <i>influential</i> with <i>famous</i>.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you confuse influential with famous .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you confuse influential with famous.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29941763</id>
	<title>Influential Women</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257092040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here is one: Leslie Hawthorn. She organizes Google's Summer Of Code, which has brought thousands of students (myself included) in an active role of participating in various open source projects. It's an absurdly hard task to coordinate thousands of students and mentors each year, to make sure all information, payments, shirts,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... are sent out in time, to organize the mentor summit, and meanwhile try to solve all problems that come up underway. She does it extremely well and I think the open source community can't thank her enough. I honestly don't think there's much more you could do to influence open source.</p><p>Go Leslie!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here is one : Leslie Hawthorn .
She organizes Google 's Summer Of Code , which has brought thousands of students ( myself included ) in an active role of participating in various open source projects .
It 's an absurdly hard task to coordinate thousands of students and mentors each year , to make sure all information , payments , shirts , ... are sent out in time , to organize the mentor summit , and meanwhile try to solve all problems that come up underway .
She does it extremely well and I think the open source community ca n't thank her enough .
I honestly do n't think there 's much more you could do to influence open source.Go Leslie !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here is one: Leslie Hawthorn.
She organizes Google's Summer Of Code, which has brought thousands of students (myself included) in an active role of participating in various open source projects.
It's an absurdly hard task to coordinate thousands of students and mentors each year, to make sure all information, payments, shirts, ... are sent out in time, to organize the mentor summit, and meanwhile try to solve all problems that come up underway.
She does it extremely well and I think the open source community can't thank her enough.
I honestly don't think there's much more you could do to influence open source.Go Leslie!</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Top two "influencers" are MIndtouch board membe</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257101520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The company is a marketing company with a product that provides nebulous benefits (it's a pimped-out wiki)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The company is a marketing company with a product that provides nebulous benefits ( it 's a pimped-out wiki )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The company is a marketing company with a product that provides nebulous benefits (it's a pimped-out wiki)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29946936</id>
	<title>Re:Influential Women</title>
	<author>Vexorian</author>
	<datestamp>1257092760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, she's still been more influential than just about half of this list anyway...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , she 's still been more influential than just about half of this list anyway.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, she's still been more influential than just about half of this list anyway...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_01_1340242.29941597</id>
	<title>WTF?</title>
	<author>jcr</author>
	<datestamp>1257090720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How can these people be "influential" when nobody's ever heard of them?</p><p>-jcr</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How can these people be " influential " when nobody 's ever heard of them ? -jcr</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How can these people be "influential" when nobody's ever heard of them?-jcr</sentencetext>
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