<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_31_1547221</id>
	<title>Lawmakers Caught Again By File-Sharing Software</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1257010080000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"A document, apparently a 'confidential House ethics committee report,' <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/29/AR2009102904597.html?hpid=topnews">was recently leaked through file-sharing software</a> to the Washington Post. According to the article, 'The committee's review of investigations became available on file-sharing networks because of a junior staff member's use of the software while working from home.' Of course, <a href="http://copyrightsandcampaigns.blogspot.com/2009/10/house-ethics-committee-staffer-used.html">P2P software is entirely at fault</a> for this incident. If you begin seeing more interest in DRM from Congress, you now know why."</i>
Reader GranTuring points out that the RIAA took the opportunity to <a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9BLKSFO0&amp;show\_article=1">make a ridiculous statement of their own</a>. They said, "the disclosure was evidence of a need for controls on peer-to-peer software to block the improper or illegal exchange of music."</htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " A document , apparently a 'confidential House ethics committee report, ' was recently leaked through file-sharing software to the Washington Post .
According to the article , 'The committee 's review of investigations became available on file-sharing networks because of a junior staff member 's use of the software while working from home .
' Of course , P2P software is entirely at fault for this incident .
If you begin seeing more interest in DRM from Congress , you now know why .
" Reader GranTuring points out that the RIAA took the opportunity to make a ridiculous statement of their own .
They said , " the disclosure was evidence of a need for controls on peer-to-peer software to block the improper or illegal exchange of music .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "A document, apparently a 'confidential House ethics committee report,' was recently leaked through file-sharing software to the Washington Post.
According to the article, 'The committee's review of investigations became available on file-sharing networks because of a junior staff member's use of the software while working from home.
' Of course, P2P software is entirely at fault for this incident.
If you begin seeing more interest in DRM from Congress, you now know why.
"
Reader GranTuring points out that the RIAA took the opportunity to make a ridiculous statement of their own.
They said, "the disclosure was evidence of a need for controls on peer-to-peer software to block the improper or illegal exchange of music.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936199</id>
	<title>Re:SOME p2p software</title>
	<author>daveime</author>
	<datestamp>1257019140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Which begs the question, did the person holding the document intentionally create a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.torrent file of it, and where exactly did he submit it to, seeing as how piratebay.org seems to be down more than up these days ?</p><p>As you say, it'll be one of those scumware BearShare type things that not only installs all kinds of spyware on your machine, but opens up your entire C: drive to the world unless you stop it.</p><p>I think the government needs an internal IT policy that if you must work on confidential documents and home, AND download the latest pr0n movies at the same time, at least use a more "secure" protocol (in terms of what you are actually sharing), like BitTorrent for example.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which begs the question , did the person holding the document intentionally create a .torrent file of it , and where exactly did he submit it to , seeing as how piratebay.org seems to be down more than up these days ? As you say , it 'll be one of those scumware BearShare type things that not only installs all kinds of spyware on your machine , but opens up your entire C : drive to the world unless you stop it.I think the government needs an internal IT policy that if you must work on confidential documents and home , AND download the latest pr0n movies at the same time , at least use a more " secure " protocol ( in terms of what you are actually sharing ) , like BitTorrent for example .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which begs the question, did the person holding the document intentionally create a .torrent file of it, and where exactly did he submit it to, seeing as how piratebay.org seems to be down more than up these days ?As you say, it'll be one of those scumware BearShare type things that not only installs all kinds of spyware on your machine, but opens up your entire C: drive to the world unless you stop it.I think the government needs an internal IT policy that if you must work on confidential documents and home, AND download the latest pr0n movies at the same time, at least use a more "secure" protocol (in terms of what you are actually sharing), like BitTorrent for example.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935883</id>
	<title>Re:So...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257016440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>"I crashed my car because I was texting while driving. #*\%?@! car...! "</htmltext>
<tokenext>" I crashed my car because I was texting while driving .
# * \ % ? @ ! car... !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I crashed my car because I was texting while driving.
#*\%?@! car...!
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29941139</id>
	<title>Re:So...</title>
	<author>i.r.id10t</author>
	<datestamp>1257085380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I find that sharing<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/var/cache/apt/archives works well<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I find that sharing /var/cache/apt/archives works well : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find that sharing /var/cache/apt/archives works well :)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29937543</id>
	<title>Re:Why is this wrong?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256989020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But it doesn't share an "unspecified area"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... it shares a clearly defined area.  Just because you don't see the stop sign doesn't mean it isn't there when you run it.  We simply have a large percentage of monkeys pushing buttons on these things.  Most of them failed to attend the monolith meetings...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But it does n't share an " unspecified area " ... it shares a clearly defined area .
Just because you do n't see the stop sign does n't mean it is n't there when you run it .
We simply have a large percentage of monkeys pushing buttons on these things .
Most of them failed to attend the monolith meetings.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But it doesn't share an "unspecified area" ... it shares a clearly defined area.
Just because you don't see the stop sign doesn't mean it isn't there when you run it.
We simply have a large percentage of monkeys pushing buttons on these things.
Most of them failed to attend the monolith meetings...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936847</id>
	<title>Re:So...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256981340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"I crashed my car because I was texting while driving. #*\%?@! car...! "</p></div><p>Most accident reports I've ever read are worded more like:</p><p>"The driver was injured when his car left the road and hit a tree."</p><p>So, yes, it usually is worded in such a way as to mean "#*\%?@! car...!".<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-\</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" I crashed my car because I was texting while driving .
# * \ % ? @ ! car... !
" Most accident reports I 've ever read are worded more like : " The driver was injured when his car left the road and hit a tree .
" So , yes , it usually is worded in such a way as to mean " # * \ % ? @ !
car... ! " . : - \</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I crashed my car because I was texting while driving.
#*\%?@! car...!
"Most accident reports I've ever read are worded more like:"The driver was injured when his car left the road and hit a tree.
"So, yes, it usually is worded in such a way as to mean "#*\%?@!
car...!". :-\
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29937221</id>
	<title>Re:Keep leak mechanics quiet.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256985240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"meaning, I want these leaks to occur because that's the only way to get honest information about our Government."</p><p>There are plenty of leaks that appear accidental but are actually staged. No reason to believe this channel is any more honest or dishonest than their press releases.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" meaning , I want these leaks to occur because that 's the only way to get honest information about our Government .
" There are plenty of leaks that appear accidental but are actually staged .
No reason to believe this channel is any more honest or dishonest than their press releases .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"meaning, I want these leaks to occur because that's the only way to get honest information about our Government.
"There are plenty of leaks that appear accidental but are actually staged.
No reason to believe this channel is any more honest or dishonest than their press releases.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935623</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936031</id>
	<title>SSSSHHHHH!!!!!!  Dont let them know!!!!</title>
	<author>Majestix</author>
	<datestamp>1257017700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...now they'll stop using P2P software and we'll never find anything out.</p><p>So i guess this means that P2P software would be a lot more stealthy so things like this dont happen<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...now they 'll stop using P2P software and we 'll never find anything out.So i guess this means that P2P software would be a lot more stealthy so things like this dont happen ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...now they'll stop using P2P software and we'll never find anything out.So i guess this means that P2P software would be a lot more stealthy so things like this dont happen ;)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936493</id>
	<title>Why is this wrong?</title>
	<author>njfuzzy</author>
	<datestamp>1257021840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't think it's crazy to say that a piece of software that 90\% of people think of as being for downloading, but that also shares your files automagically in a non-transparent way, is a bad idea. Any file-sharing should be opt-in, not automatically and quietly sharing an unspecified are of your drive.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think it 's crazy to say that a piece of software that 90 \ % of people think of as being for downloading , but that also shares your files automagically in a non-transparent way , is a bad idea .
Any file-sharing should be opt-in , not automatically and quietly sharing an unspecified are of your drive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think it's crazy to say that a piece of software that 90\% of people think of as being for downloading, but that also shares your files automagically in a non-transparent way, is a bad idea.
Any file-sharing should be opt-in, not automatically and quietly sharing an unspecified are of your drive.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936693</id>
	<title>Re:So...</title>
	<author>ScrewMaster</author>
	<datestamp>1256980260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Don't blame the person who actually leaked it, blame the damned software!

Ahh...I love politics.</p></div><p>Trust me<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... that particular telecommuter is getting his share of blame. It just won't be public because he probably didn't do anything criminal. Of course, he's still an idiot.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't blame the person who actually leaked it , blame the damned software !
Ahh...I love politics.Trust me ... that particular telecommuter is getting his share of blame .
It just wo n't be public because he probably did n't do anything criminal .
Of course , he 's still an idiot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't blame the person who actually leaked it, blame the damned software!
Ahh...I love politics.Trust me ... that particular telecommuter is getting his share of blame.
It just won't be public because he probably didn't do anything criminal.
Of course, he's still an idiot.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935577</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936349</id>
	<title>Re:Terrible P2P Regulation Bill Will Be Fast-Track</title>
	<author>CrimsonAvenger</author>
	<datestamp>1257020880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That bill you linked to qualifies as "mostly harmless" - the keywords and tricky phrases you should be paying attention to are "owner or authorized user".
</p><p>Note that it's all about what people who are NOT the "owner or authorized user" are allowed to inflict upon the "owner or authorized user".
</p><p>Note that since you are, presumably, the "owner or authorized user" of your personal computer, nothing in this bill would have any effect whatsoever on what you can do with your own computer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That bill you linked to qualifies as " mostly harmless " - the keywords and tricky phrases you should be paying attention to are " owner or authorized user " .
Note that it 's all about what people who are NOT the " owner or authorized user " are allowed to inflict upon the " owner or authorized user " .
Note that since you are , presumably , the " owner or authorized user " of your personal computer , nothing in this bill would have any effect whatsoever on what you can do with your own computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That bill you linked to qualifies as "mostly harmless" - the keywords and tricky phrases you should be paying attention to are "owner or authorized user".
Note that it's all about what people who are NOT the "owner or authorized user" are allowed to inflict upon the "owner or authorized user".
Note that since you are, presumably, the "owner or authorized user" of your personal computer, nothing in this bill would have any effect whatsoever on what you can do with your own computer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29949608</id>
	<title>Probable...</title>
	<author>hesaigo999ca</author>
	<datestamp>1257173640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;Why the heck isn't someone reaming out the employee/staffer who used his government computer system for personal use<br>Because, like most politicians, he was good at covering his ass, and in this case, probably said something to the effect of, I had no control over it, it just started downloading on its own, when we all KNOW that you can configure your limewire, or utorrent to only include certain folders to share. People like this give p2p a bad name, and yet linux and m$ both have been using it to improve their downloads for patches and updates. P2P is not the enemy, misguided users are.</p><p>Of course though, people use this to catapult into a debate about P2P and torrent technology, not knowing how it works, and<br>plan to ban the use of these apps....what non sense!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Why the heck is n't someone reaming out the employee/staffer who used his government computer system for personal useBecause , like most politicians , he was good at covering his ass , and in this case , probably said something to the effect of , I had no control over it , it just started downloading on its own , when we all KNOW that you can configure your limewire , or utorrent to only include certain folders to share .
People like this give p2p a bad name , and yet linux and m $ both have been using it to improve their downloads for patches and updates .
P2P is not the enemy , misguided users are.Of course though , people use this to catapult into a debate about P2P and torrent technology , not knowing how it works , andplan to ban the use of these apps....what non sense !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;Why the heck isn't someone reaming out the employee/staffer who used his government computer system for personal useBecause, like most politicians, he was good at covering his ass, and in this case, probably said something to the effect of, I had no control over it, it just started downloading on its own, when we all KNOW that you can configure your limewire, or utorrent to only include certain folders to share.
People like this give p2p a bad name, and yet linux and m$ both have been using it to improve their downloads for patches and updates.
P2P is not the enemy, misguided users are.Of course though, people use this to catapult into a debate about P2P and torrent technology, not knowing how it works, andplan to ban the use of these apps....what non sense!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936297</id>
	<title>Re:So...</title>
	<author>genericpoweruser</author>
	<datestamp>1257020220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not to mention, there have been more accidental overdoses in that manner since the safety bottles were mandated. And, anecdotally, I recall that when my sister was three she had no problem breaking the lid off a bottle of Tylenol PM, and eating all the "candy".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to mention , there have been more accidental overdoses in that manner since the safety bottles were mandated .
And , anecdotally , I recall that when my sister was three she had no problem breaking the lid off a bottle of Tylenol PM , and eating all the " candy " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to mention, there have been more accidental overdoses in that manner since the safety bottles were mandated.
And, anecdotally, I recall that when my sister was three she had no problem breaking the lid off a bottle of Tylenol PM, and eating all the "candy".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29937315</id>
	<title>Re:So...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256986380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>To their defense, we do have safety bottles today because at some point a baby died eating pills thinking they were candies. It's all about protecting the incompetent from themselves.</p></div><p>/golfclap.  Not true, however.  Safety bottles and tamper-evident packaging came about because some dill poisoned a number of packages of Tylenol in an extortion scheme.  This wasn't protecting people against themselves, this was protecting people against a malicious idiot, may he be reborn as a cockroach.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>To their defense , we do have safety bottles today because at some point a baby died eating pills thinking they were candies .
It 's all about protecting the incompetent from themselves./golfclap .
Not true , however .
Safety bottles and tamper-evident packaging came about because some dill poisoned a number of packages of Tylenol in an extortion scheme .
This was n't protecting people against themselves , this was protecting people against a malicious idiot , may he be reborn as a cockroach .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To their defense, we do have safety bottles today because at some point a baby died eating pills thinking they were candies.
It's all about protecting the incompetent from themselves./golfclap.
Not true, however.
Safety bottles and tamper-evident packaging came about because some dill poisoned a number of packages of Tylenol in an extortion scheme.
This wasn't protecting people against themselves, this was protecting people against a malicious idiot, may he be reborn as a cockroach.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936219</id>
	<title>Nothing to do with P2P!!</title>
	<author>cdn-programmer</author>
	<datestamp>1257019380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This has NOTHING to do with P2P.  They might not even be able to show P2P software had anything to do with it.  The issue is that ANYONE who is stupid enough to hook a machine dealing with confidential information to the net is a bleeding fool and this includes all my lawyers' secretaries who had their word processing machines on the net - the lawyer who sent me his complete client list, a certain accountant who dropped off at a pawn shop (for $25 bux) all her clients income tax returns along with her DLT7000 (70 GB folks &amp; the tape was in the $3500++ drive!).  She used it to backup what ultimately would fit on a couple CD's!  She \_could\_ have simply copied each years tax return to a floppy disk for the specific client!  The list also includes a company that had their accounting staff re-input months of work because they picked up a virus in their key machines.</p><p>Computers are so cheap that it makes no sense what so ever to take chances like this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This has NOTHING to do with P2P .
They might not even be able to show P2P software had anything to do with it .
The issue is that ANYONE who is stupid enough to hook a machine dealing with confidential information to the net is a bleeding fool and this includes all my lawyers ' secretaries who had their word processing machines on the net - the lawyer who sent me his complete client list , a certain accountant who dropped off at a pawn shop ( for $ 25 bux ) all her clients income tax returns along with her DLT7000 ( 70 GB folks &amp; the tape was in the $ 3500 + + drive ! ) .
She used it to backup what ultimately would fit on a couple CD 's !
She \ _could \ _ have simply copied each years tax return to a floppy disk for the specific client !
The list also includes a company that had their accounting staff re-input months of work because they picked up a virus in their key machines.Computers are so cheap that it makes no sense what so ever to take chances like this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This has NOTHING to do with P2P.
They might not even be able to show P2P software had anything to do with it.
The issue is that ANYONE who is stupid enough to hook a machine dealing with confidential information to the net is a bleeding fool and this includes all my lawyers' secretaries who had their word processing machines on the net - the lawyer who sent me his complete client list, a certain accountant who dropped off at a pawn shop (for $25 bux) all her clients income tax returns along with her DLT7000 (70 GB folks &amp; the tape was in the $3500++ drive!).
She used it to backup what ultimately would fit on a couple CD's!
She \_could\_ have simply copied each years tax return to a floppy disk for the specific client!
The list also includes a company that had their accounting staff re-input months of work because they picked up a virus in their key machines.Computers are so cheap that it makes no sense what so ever to take chances like this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29938385</id>
	<title>Re:Keep leak mechanics quiet.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256998320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Those politicians* would keep doing business as usual.</p></div><p>You think that <i>now</i> they won't keep doing business as usual?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Those politicians * would keep doing business as usual.You think that now they wo n't keep doing business as usual ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Those politicians* would keep doing business as usual.You think that now they won't keep doing business as usual?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935821</id>
	<title>Accidents do happen but .....</title>
	<author>Usagi\_yo</author>
	<datestamp>1257015960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you seriously think that this was inadvertent, they you should probably read more Machiavelli</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you seriously think that this was inadvertent , they you should probably read more Machiavelli</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you seriously think that this was inadvertent, they you should probably read more Machiavelli</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29937619</id>
	<title>Re:So...</title>
	<author>cawpin</author>
	<datestamp>1256989740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Don't blame the person who actually leaked it, blame the damned software!

Ahh...I love politics.</p></div><p>Now you know how law abiding gun owners, like me, feel. You cannot blame an inanimate object.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't blame the person who actually leaked it , blame the damned software !
Ahh...I love politics.Now you know how law abiding gun owners , like me , feel .
You can not blame an inanimate object .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't blame the person who actually leaked it, blame the damned software!
Ahh...I love politics.Now you know how law abiding gun owners, like me, feel.
You cannot blame an inanimate object.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29939919</id>
	<title>Re:So...</title>
	<author>Tuoqui</author>
	<datestamp>1257018540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah too bad it wasnt ACTA Treaty that was leaked.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah too bad it wasnt ACTA Treaty that was leaked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah too bad it wasnt ACTA Treaty that was leaked.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935577</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935609</id>
	<title>Oops!... I Did It Again</title>
	<author>TimeElf1</author>
	<datestamp>1257014100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The government is starting to sound like Britney Spears.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The government is starting to sound like Britney Spears .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The government is starting to sound like Britney Spears.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29939297</id>
	<title>Re:Keep leak mechanics quiet.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257009420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So you want less transparency because you want more transparency? Got it.</p><p>Just as a side question...Have you ever considered running for office?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So you want less transparency because you want more transparency ?
Got it.Just as a side question...Have you ever considered running for office ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So you want less transparency because you want more transparency?
Got it.Just as a side question...Have you ever considered running for office?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935623</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29958246</id>
	<title>Re:So...</title>
	<author>angst\_ridden\_hipster</author>
	<datestamp>1257172380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I always like it when at the scene of an accident, the officer is asking "What happened here?" and the driver is saying "I don't know<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... all of a sudden, this car just appeared<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..."</p><p>Huh? You're piloting a ton or more of steel at 60km/h, and you don't <b>know</b>? Did it ever occur that you might <b>want</b> to know what's going on around you?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I always like it when at the scene of an accident , the officer is asking " What happened here ?
" and the driver is saying " I do n't know ... all of a sudden , this car just appeared ... " Huh ?
You 're piloting a ton or more of steel at 60km/h , and you do n't know ?
Did it ever occur that you might want to know what 's going on around you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I always like it when at the scene of an accident, the officer is asking "What happened here?
" and the driver is saying "I don't know ... all of a sudden, this car just appeared ..."Huh?
You're piloting a ton or more of steel at 60km/h, and you don't know?
Did it ever occur that you might want to know what's going on around you?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936847</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935745</id>
	<title>Re:The sadest part of this is..</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1257015480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>National insecurity. Serious stuff.</htmltext>
<tokenext>National insecurity .
Serious stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>National insecurity.
Serious stuff.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935617</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935757</id>
	<title>Terrible P2P Regulation Bill Will Be Fast-Tracked</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257015540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For months now, some RIAA-influenced Congressmen have been working on a crazily overbroad P2P regulation bill, <a href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.1319:" title="loc.gov" rel="nofollow">H.R. 1319: The Informed P2P User Act</a> [loc.gov].  It just <a href="http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1319" title="govtrack.us" rel="nofollow">passed out of committee</a> [govtrack.us] last month.</p><p>I would expect Congressmen to be falling all over each other to bring this to a vote now.  After all, it's they're no longer just doing it for the RIAA/MPAA "campaign contributions."  Now, it's personal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For months now , some RIAA-influenced Congressmen have been working on a crazily overbroad P2P regulation bill , H.R .
1319 : The Informed P2P User Act [ loc.gov ] .
It just passed out of committee [ govtrack.us ] last month.I would expect Congressmen to be falling all over each other to bring this to a vote now .
After all , it 's they 're no longer just doing it for the RIAA/MPAA " campaign contributions .
" Now , it 's personal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For months now, some RIAA-influenced Congressmen have been working on a crazily overbroad P2P regulation bill, H.R.
1319: The Informed P2P User Act [loc.gov].
It just passed out of committee [govtrack.us] last month.I would expect Congressmen to be falling all over each other to bring this to a vote now.
After all, it's they're no longer just doing it for the RIAA/MPAA "campaign contributions.
"  Now, it's personal.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936737</id>
	<title>Re:So...</title>
	<author>mpe</author>
	<datestamp>1256980560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>To their defense, we do have safety bottles today because at some point a baby died eating pills thinking they were candies. It's all about protecting the incompetent from themselves.</i> <br> <br>It's not always easy to come up with a design which will resist children whilst being easily operated by adults though. I also recall that in one experiment a child was able to bite through a plastic bottle.</htmltext>
<tokenext>To their defense , we do have safety bottles today because at some point a baby died eating pills thinking they were candies .
It 's all about protecting the incompetent from themselves .
It 's not always easy to come up with a design which will resist children whilst being easily operated by adults though .
I also recall that in one experiment a child was able to bite through a plastic bottle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To their defense, we do have safety bottles today because at some point a baby died eating pills thinking they were candies.
It's all about protecting the incompetent from themselves.
It's not always easy to come up with a design which will resist children whilst being easily operated by adults though.
I also recall that in one experiment a child was able to bite through a plastic bottle.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935635</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29937009</id>
	<title>Re:So...</title>
	<author>WhatAmIDoingHere</author>
	<datestamp>1256983080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Who still uses "share folder" based p2p programs?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who still uses " share folder " based p2p programs ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who still uses "share folder" based p2p programs?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935577</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935747</id>
	<title>Re:Connections</title>
	<author>nomadic</author>
	<datestamp>1257015480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>So long as two computers can communicate with each other, so you will have P2P.
<br>
<br>
Luckily, we have politicians who's only education is in English, law, history, politics, art. So it's easy to push any techno-babble on them because they are dangerously uneducated fools.</i>
<br>
<br>
The committee released a statement on the issue, saying "[o]ur initial review suggests that this unlawful access to confidential information involved the use of peer-to-peer file sharing software on the personal computer of a junior staffer, who is no longer employed by the Committee, while working from home."<br>
<br>
Please tell me what technical error or incorrect terminology she used, because I can't see it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So long as two computers can communicate with each other , so you will have P2P .
Luckily , we have politicians who 's only education is in English , law , history , politics , art .
So it 's easy to push any techno-babble on them because they are dangerously uneducated fools .
The committee released a statement on the issue , saying " [ o ] ur initial review suggests that this unlawful access to confidential information involved the use of peer-to-peer file sharing software on the personal computer of a junior staffer , who is no longer employed by the Committee , while working from home .
" Please tell me what technical error or incorrect terminology she used , because I ca n't see it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So long as two computers can communicate with each other, so you will have P2P.
Luckily, we have politicians who's only education is in English, law, history, politics, art.
So it's easy to push any techno-babble on them because they are dangerously uneducated fools.
The committee released a statement on the issue, saying "[o]ur initial review suggests that this unlawful access to confidential information involved the use of peer-to-peer file sharing software on the personal computer of a junior staffer, who is no longer employed by the Committee, while working from home.
"

Please tell me what technical error or incorrect terminology she used, because I can't see it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935599</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935623</id>
	<title>Keep leak mechanics quiet.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257014280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wish the mechanics of the leaks: how, software, etc... would be kept quiet. That way, they can keep happening - meaning, I <i>want</i> these leaks to occur because that's the only way to get honest information about our Government. It's not like the media is doing a good job. If it weren't for this leak, would we know anything about this? I dont' think so. Those politicians* would keep doing business as usual. <p>Now that the politicians know how it's happening, they'll plug this leak. Our only hope is another one opens up.</p><p>* - I think "politician" is the most derogatory name you can call someone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wish the mechanics of the leaks : how , software , etc... would be kept quiet .
That way , they can keep happening - meaning , I want these leaks to occur because that 's the only way to get honest information about our Government .
It 's not like the media is doing a good job .
If it were n't for this leak , would we know anything about this ?
I dont ' think so .
Those politicians * would keep doing business as usual .
Now that the politicians know how it 's happening , they 'll plug this leak .
Our only hope is another one opens up .
* - I think " politician " is the most derogatory name you can call someone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wish the mechanics of the leaks: how, software, etc... would be kept quiet.
That way, they can keep happening - meaning, I want these leaks to occur because that's the only way to get honest information about our Government.
It's not like the media is doing a good job.
If it weren't for this leak, would we know anything about this?
I dont' think so.
Those politicians* would keep doing business as usual.
Now that the politicians know how it's happening, they'll plug this leak.
Our only hope is another one opens up.
* - I think "politician" is the most derogatory name you can call someone.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29937021</id>
	<title>Government shold censor mail!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256983140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Government shold censor mail to prevent exchange of book parts and base64ed music!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Government shold censor mail to prevent exchange of book parts and base64ed music !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Government shold censor mail to prevent exchange of book parts and base64ed music!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935577</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935669</id>
	<title>They shouldn't even have the Internet.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257014700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Any sort of malware can be picked up by browsing the Web if the browser or its plugins are exploitable.</p><p>And with litigious entities able to pry into any computer or data storage you own entirely on the basis of an IP address given them by people they employ or contract, I just don't feel it's an acceptable risk to allow any computer with government information to be anywhere near a device capable of using an IP address.  Even if said device is a laser printer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Any sort of malware can be picked up by browsing the Web if the browser or its plugins are exploitable.And with litigious entities able to pry into any computer or data storage you own entirely on the basis of an IP address given them by people they employ or contract , I just do n't feel it 's an acceptable risk to allow any computer with government information to be anywhere near a device capable of using an IP address .
Even if said device is a laser printer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Any sort of malware can be picked up by browsing the Web if the browser or its plugins are exploitable.And with litigious entities able to pry into any computer or data storage you own entirely on the basis of an IP address given them by people they employ or contract, I just don't feel it's an acceptable risk to allow any computer with government information to be anywhere near a device capable of using an IP address.
Even if said device is a laser printer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936249</id>
	<title>To all legislators</title>
	<author>gmuslera</author>
	<datestamp>1257019740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You should had read better our latest memo. Our company proposal targets exactly the source of the current information leaking problem. By using stealth technology, disguising as one of the culprit software, it infiltrate in their networks and kill those pesky PEBCAK softwares that are giving so much headaches lately. Give our company full freedom to act and that problem will be terminated.<br><br>Yours Truly<br>John Connor III<br>Cyberdyne Systems</htmltext>
<tokenext>You should had read better our latest memo .
Our company proposal targets exactly the source of the current information leaking problem .
By using stealth technology , disguising as one of the culprit software , it infiltrate in their networks and kill those pesky PEBCAK softwares that are giving so much headaches lately .
Give our company full freedom to act and that problem will be terminated.Yours TrulyJohn Connor IIICyberdyne Systems</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You should had read better our latest memo.
Our company proposal targets exactly the source of the current information leaking problem.
By using stealth technology, disguising as one of the culprit software, it infiltrate in their networks and kill those pesky PEBCAK softwares that are giving so much headaches lately.
Give our company full freedom to act and that problem will be terminated.Yours TrulyJohn Connor IIICyberdyne Systems</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936461</id>
	<title>mo3 0p</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257021660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>current core were [AMAZINGKRESKIN.COM] Over a quality and the bottom of various BSD Declined in market the mundane chores FLY...DON'T FEAR of its core achieve any of the and the striking to look into Numbers continue Of OpenBSD versus of its core raise or lower the Disappearing up its it was fun. If I'm perform keeping server crashes And Michael Smith nearly two years Come Here but now I know it sux0rs, MOVIE [imdb.com] host what the house Lite is$ straining Fortunately, Linux A BSD box that First, you have to</htmltext>
<tokenext>current core were [ AMAZINGKRESKIN.COM ] Over a quality and the bottom of various BSD Declined in market the mundane chores FLY...DO N'T FEAR of its core achieve any of the and the striking to look into Numbers continue Of OpenBSD versus of its core raise or lower the Disappearing up its it was fun .
If I 'm perform keeping server crashes And Michael Smith nearly two years Come Here but now I know it sux0rs , MOVIE [ imdb.com ] host what the house Lite is $ straining Fortunately , Linux A BSD box that First , you have to</tokentext>
<sentencetext>current core were [AMAZINGKRESKIN.COM] Over a quality and the bottom of various BSD Declined in market the mundane chores FLY...DON'T FEAR of its core achieve any of the and the striking to look into Numbers continue Of OpenBSD versus of its core raise or lower the Disappearing up its it was fun.
If I'm perform keeping server crashes And Michael Smith nearly two years Come Here but now I know it sux0rs, MOVIE [imdb.com] host what the house Lite is$ straining Fortunately, Linux A BSD box that First, you have to</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936539</id>
	<title>Wow... who knew....</title>
	<author>rickb928</author>
	<datestamp>1257022320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>....that P2P software would 'used' as a tool of democracy and open government?</p><p>Didn't see that coming.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>....that P2P software would 'used ' as a tool of democracy and open government ? Did n't see that coming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>....that P2P software would 'used' as a tool of democracy and open government?Didn't see that coming.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935753</id>
	<title>Re:The sadest part of this is..</title>
	<author>camperdave</author>
	<datestamp>1257015540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because there are things that need to remain secret, yet still remain ethical.  For example, wiretaps.  You don't want your local crimelord/mob boss being able to tell which of his lines are tapped by going down to the ministry and filling out a freedom of information form, do you?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because there are things that need to remain secret , yet still remain ethical .
For example , wiretaps .
You do n't want your local crimelord/mob boss being able to tell which of his lines are tapped by going down to the ministry and filling out a freedom of information form , do you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because there are things that need to remain secret, yet still remain ethical.
For example, wiretaps.
You don't want your local crimelord/mob boss being able to tell which of his lines are tapped by going down to the ministry and filling out a freedom of information form, do you?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935659</id>
	<title>Don't need P2P for these problems</title>
	<author>originalhack</author>
	<datestamp>1257014580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The amazing thing about these "Information Security Awareness Monthly" postings is that they blame P2P and then cite the example of a user using a P2P network to download an executable that contains a trojan.   I guess that executables taken from regular webservers are fine, then.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The amazing thing about these " Information Security Awareness Monthly " postings is that they blame P2P and then cite the example of a user using a P2P network to download an executable that contains a trojan .
I guess that executables taken from regular webservers are fine , then .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The amazing thing about these "Information Security Awareness Monthly" postings is that they blame P2P and then cite the example of a user using a P2P network to download an executable that contains a trojan.
I guess that executables taken from regular webservers are fine, then.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936215</id>
	<title>Re:Connections</title>
	<author>commodore64\_love</author>
	<datestamp>1257019380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt;&gt;we have politicians who's only education is in English, law, history, politics, art.</p><p>Therefore more of us engineers and programmers need to run for office.  At the state level it's fairly easy - you just need to stand by a highway, hold a sign with your name in bold letters, wave and smile.  Once we get enough geeks we can start making sane, logical laws regarding technology.</p><p>Alternatively we could bombard our government employees with emails explaining why P2P is not evil.  And ultimately even if you banned, we will invent new ones to connect to one another (like direct-dialing).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; &gt; we have politicians who 's only education is in English , law , history , politics , art.Therefore more of us engineers and programmers need to run for office .
At the state level it 's fairly easy - you just need to stand by a highway , hold a sign with your name in bold letters , wave and smile .
Once we get enough geeks we can start making sane , logical laws regarding technology.Alternatively we could bombard our government employees with emails explaining why P2P is not evil .
And ultimately even if you banned , we will invent new ones to connect to one another ( like direct-dialing ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt;&gt;we have politicians who's only education is in English, law, history, politics, art.Therefore more of us engineers and programmers need to run for office.
At the state level it's fairly easy - you just need to stand by a highway, hold a sign with your name in bold letters, wave and smile.
Once we get enough geeks we can start making sane, logical laws regarding technology.Alternatively we could bombard our government employees with emails explaining why P2P is not evil.
And ultimately even if you banned, we will invent new ones to connect to one another (like direct-dialing).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935599</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935743</id>
	<title>Doesn't this actually show</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257015480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...the need for more ethical members of Congress?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...the need for more ethical members of Congress ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...the need for more ethical members of Congress?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935719</id>
	<title>Why not get rid of the 'net?</title>
	<author>muppetman462</author>
	<datestamp>1257015180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is completely insane.  Blaming P2P for the leak instead of having control over the documents.  I know with the NMCI system, anything that is transferred to a external hard drive is encrypted.  If the US Government wants to stop these types of leaks, maybe they should ask Al Gore how to stop his wonderful invention.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is completely insane .
Blaming P2P for the leak instead of having control over the documents .
I know with the NMCI system , anything that is transferred to a external hard drive is encrypted .
If the US Government wants to stop these types of leaks , maybe they should ask Al Gore how to stop his wonderful invention .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is completely insane.
Blaming P2P for the leak instead of having control over the documents.
I know with the NMCI system, anything that is transferred to a external hard drive is encrypted.
If the US Government wants to stop these types of leaks, maybe they should ask Al Gore how to stop his wonderful invention.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936635</id>
	<title>Re:So...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256979840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And its a strong possibility this was a fake stunt to make P2P software a sort of scape goat to satisfy companies like RIAA or even some ISP's their wishes for a heavily controlled internet without net neutrality.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And its a strong possibility this was a fake stunt to make P2P software a sort of scape goat to satisfy companies like RIAA or even some ISP 's their wishes for a heavily controlled internet without net neutrality .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And its a strong possibility this was a fake stunt to make P2P software a sort of scape goat to satisfy companies like RIAA or even some ISP's their wishes for a heavily controlled internet without net neutrality.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935769</id>
	<title>SOME p2p software</title>
	<author>TheSHAD0W</author>
	<datestamp>1257015660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How unfortunate for the RIAA that <a href="http://bittorrent.com/" title="bittorrent.com">their biggest target</a> [bittorrent.com] can't leak information like that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How unfortunate for the RIAA that their biggest target [ bittorrent.com ] ca n't leak information like that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How unfortunate for the RIAA that their biggest target [bittorrent.com] can't leak information like that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936457</id>
	<title>Re:DRM here is good</title>
	<author>symbolset</author>
	<datestamp>1257021540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>A proper document management system would have prevent an information leak, even if the document itself had leaked.</p></div><p>A proper documet management system with confidential information would have never been connected to the Internet.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A proper document management system would have prevent an information leak , even if the document itself had leaked.A proper documet management system with confidential information would have never been connected to the Internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A proper document management system would have prevent an information leak, even if the document itself had leaked.A proper documet management system with confidential information would have never been connected to the Internet.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935963</id>
	<title>Re:Connections</title>
	<author>turbidostato</author>
	<datestamp>1257017100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"When the Oracle at Delphi pronounced Socrates the wisest man in all of Greece"</p><p>Oracle at Delphi? Where? When?  It's more Borland at Micro Focus, these days.</p><p>In the other hand, knowing Oracle, it probably wouldn't say nothing about Socrates at Greece but would pronounce Ellison wisest man over Sun.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" When the Oracle at Delphi pronounced Socrates the wisest man in all of Greece " Oracle at Delphi ?
Where ? When ?
It 's more Borland at Micro Focus , these days.In the other hand , knowing Oracle , it probably would n't say nothing about Socrates at Greece but would pronounce Ellison wisest man over Sun .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"When the Oracle at Delphi pronounced Socrates the wisest man in all of Greece"Oracle at Delphi?
Where? When?
It's more Borland at Micro Focus, these days.In the other hand, knowing Oracle, it probably wouldn't say nothing about Socrates at Greece but would pronounce Ellison wisest man over Sun.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935673</id>
	<title>Re:No.</title>
	<author>oracleguy01</author>
	<datestamp>1257014760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think that was sarcasm in the summary. But you aren't wrong about encrypting the files.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that was sarcasm in the summary .
But you are n't wrong about encrypting the files .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that was sarcasm in the summary.
But you aren't wrong about encrypting the files.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935635</id>
	<title>Re:So...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257014400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To their defense, we do have safety bottles today because at some point a baby died eating pills thinking they were candies. It's all about protecting the incompetent from themselves.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To their defense , we do have safety bottles today because at some point a baby died eating pills thinking they were candies .
It 's all about protecting the incompetent from themselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To their defense, we do have safety bottles today because at some point a baby died eating pills thinking they were candies.
It's all about protecting the incompetent from themselves.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935577</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29939913</id>
	<title>File sharing software</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257018420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That would be software with a name like copy, or cp.  Dangerous, deadly stuff that.  Computers seem to be full of software like this, be it copy, cp, memcpy, backup, sync, etc.  ATROCIOUS!  Surely the recorded music industry can charge a fee for every time data is duplicated.  Doesn't matter if its music or not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That would be software with a name like copy , or cp .
Dangerous , deadly stuff that .
Computers seem to be full of software like this , be it copy , cp , memcpy , backup , sync , etc .
ATROCIOUS ! Surely the recorded music industry can charge a fee for every time data is duplicated .
Does n't matter if its music or not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That would be software with a name like copy, or cp.
Dangerous, deadly stuff that.
Computers seem to be full of software like this, be it copy, cp, memcpy, backup, sync, etc.
ATROCIOUS!  Surely the recorded music industry can charge a fee for every time data is duplicated.
Doesn't matter if its music or not.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29939463</id>
	<title>Blaming the software?</title>
	<author>rnturn</author>
	<datestamp>1257010980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why the heck isn't someone reaming out the employee/staffer who used his government computer system for personal use?  A screw-up like this in the private sector would get him/her fired from many companies for violating company policy regarding the allowed use of the computer system. If that member of congress's office didn't have an acceptable use policy, I'll bet they have one by Monday.  It may not be popular to write this on Slashdot but if your employer provides you with a PC for use in your work, it's not really a "personal" computer and you really shouldn't be placing anything on it more personal than, say, a favorite wallpaper.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why the heck is n't someone reaming out the employee/staffer who used his government computer system for personal use ?
A screw-up like this in the private sector would get him/her fired from many companies for violating company policy regarding the allowed use of the computer system .
If that member of congress 's office did n't have an acceptable use policy , I 'll bet they have one by Monday .
It may not be popular to write this on Slashdot but if your employer provides you with a PC for use in your work , it 's not really a " personal " computer and you really should n't be placing anything on it more personal than , say , a favorite wallpaper .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why the heck isn't someone reaming out the employee/staffer who used his government computer system for personal use?
A screw-up like this in the private sector would get him/her fired from many companies for violating company policy regarding the allowed use of the computer system.
If that member of congress's office didn't have an acceptable use policy, I'll bet they have one by Monday.
It may not be popular to write this on Slashdot but if your employer provides you with a PC for use in your work, it's not really a "personal" computer and you really shouldn't be placing anything on it more personal than, say, a favorite wallpaper.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29937683</id>
	<title>How "convenient".</title>
	<author>oDDmON oUT</author>
	<datestamp>1256990280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Need a motive to craft censoring legislation?</p><p>Induse some "junior staffer" to have a brain fart, placing a confidential file where it can be vampired off and forwarded as a "leak" to a rag in dire need of boosting its readership.</p><p>Has anyone thought to ask who this junior staffer was, and why they had this document at home in an insecure setting?</p><p>No, of course not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Need a motive to craft censoring legislation ? Induse some " junior staffer " to have a brain fart , placing a confidential file where it can be vampired off and forwarded as a " leak " to a rag in dire need of boosting its readership.Has anyone thought to ask who this junior staffer was , and why they had this document at home in an insecure setting ? No , of course not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Need a motive to craft censoring legislation?Induse some "junior staffer" to have a brain fart, placing a confidential file where it can be vampired off and forwarded as a "leak" to a rag in dire need of boosting its readership.Has anyone thought to ask who this junior staffer was, and why they had this document at home in an insecure setting?No, of course not.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936247</id>
	<title>Re:Connections</title>
	<author>The Grim Reefer2</author>
	<datestamp>1257019680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So long as two computers can communicate with each other, so you will have P2P.</p></div><p>So long as two people can communicate with each other, so you will have leaked documents.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So long as two computers can communicate with each other , so you will have P2P.So long as two people can communicate with each other , so you will have leaked documents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So long as two computers can communicate with each other, so you will have P2P.So long as two people can communicate with each other, so you will have leaked documents.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29939509</id>
	<title>I've got a real problem with this article</title>
	<author>uuddlrlrab</author>
	<datestamp>1257011580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...in the assertion that p2p software is maliciously allowing files not intended for distribution by the user to be shared. I don't doubt there are some bad apps out there that contain stuff that should never be allowed on any decent persons hard drive, but I've yet to see any explanation about <b>how</b> exactly this sharing is going on against the users wishes. Is there evidence of any rootkits? Any malware setting up connections that don't seem to match the p2p program? I noticed that little <a href="http://www.hpl.hp.com/techreports/2002/HPL-2002-163.pdf" title="hp.com" rel="nofollow">linked writeup</a> [hp.com] blasting how a particular program, KaZaA, I believe, didn't accurately show what was shared was actually written in <b>2002</b>. Nice to see how a seven year old piece is suddenly 'evidence'. If the only real issue is these <a href="http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Retard" title="encycloped...matica.com" rel="nofollow">bright</a> [encycloped...matica.com] <a href="http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Gentlemen" title="encycloped...matica.com" rel="nofollow">gentlemen</a> [encycloped...matica.com] not knowing...
<ul>
<li>The <i>My Documents</i> folder is a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special\_Folders" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">special folder</a> [wikipedia.org] that, by default, is located on the C:\ drive</li><li>That most software, Explorer.exe itself included, by default, will recurse subdirectories</li><li>Most of the things discussed here can be changed, like what folders you are sharing, and even where My Docs points can be changed too...like to a different drive</li><li>If you have anything above retard level intelligence, you'd know to keep sensitive material <b>anywhere but</b> a default, commonly trolled, and (lacking proper security) <a href="http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Oh\_exploitable" title="encycloped...matica.com" rel="nofollow">easily exploitable</a> [encycloped...matica.com] folder like My Docs...</li><li>...Like, say, in an encrypted, password-protected archive on a flash drive you never let out of your sight? Or better yet, said archive on a fully encrypted portable hard drive that you make sure not to leave plugged in...</li><li>Best solution, don't run your p2p on the same system as for super secret government work; you could maybe try running the p2p under a restricted linux virtual machine? At bare minimum, create a <b> <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/security/learnmore/accesscontrol.mspx" title="microsoft.com" rel="nofollow">separate special user account</a> [microsoft.com] </b>specifically for either accessing the sensitive files, or else a restricted one for p2p activities</li></ul><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>...then I'm inclined to think they're speaking as <a href="http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Unwarranted\_Self-Importance" title="encycloped...matica.com" rel="nofollow">security experts</a> [encycloped...matica.com], seeing as to how they've <a href="http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Lie" title="encycloped...matica.com" rel="nofollow">most certainly</a> [encycloped...matica.com] <a href="http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Fail" title="encycloped...matica.com" rel="nofollow">passed</a> [encycloped...matica.com] their <a href="http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Computer\_Science\_III" title="encycloped...matica.com" rel="nofollow">advanced computer science classes</a> [encycloped...matica.com]. This isn't Soviet Russia, I'll skip the propaganda, thank you very much.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...in the assertion that p2p software is maliciously allowing files not intended for distribution by the user to be shared .
I do n't doubt there are some bad apps out there that contain stuff that should never be allowed on any decent persons hard drive , but I 've yet to see any explanation about how exactly this sharing is going on against the users wishes .
Is there evidence of any rootkits ?
Any malware setting up connections that do n't seem to match the p2p program ?
I noticed that little linked writeup [ hp.com ] blasting how a particular program , KaZaA , I believe , did n't accurately show what was shared was actually written in 2002 .
Nice to see how a seven year old piece is suddenly 'evidence' .
If the only real issue is these bright [ encycloped...matica.com ] gentlemen [ encycloped...matica.com ] not knowing.. . The My Documents folder is a special folder [ wikipedia.org ] that , by default , is located on the C : \ driveThat most software , Explorer.exe itself included , by default , will recurse subdirectoriesMost of the things discussed here can be changed , like what folders you are sharing , and even where My Docs points can be changed too...like to a different driveIf you have anything above retard level intelligence , you 'd know to keep sensitive material anywhere but a default , commonly trolled , and ( lacking proper security ) easily exploitable [ encycloped...matica.com ] folder like My Docs......Like , say , in an encrypted , password-protected archive on a flash drive you never let out of your sight ?
Or better yet , said archive on a fully encrypted portable hard drive that you make sure not to leave plugged in...Best solution , do n't run your p2p on the same system as for super secret government work ; you could maybe try running the p2p under a restricted linux virtual machine ?
At bare minimum , create a separate special user account [ microsoft.com ] specifically for either accessing the sensitive files , or else a restricted one for p2p activities ...then I 'm inclined to think they 're speaking as security experts [ encycloped...matica.com ] , seeing as to how they 've most certainly [ encycloped...matica.com ] passed [ encycloped...matica.com ] their advanced computer science classes [ encycloped...matica.com ] .
This is n't Soviet Russia , I 'll skip the propaganda , thank you very much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...in the assertion that p2p software is maliciously allowing files not intended for distribution by the user to be shared.
I don't doubt there are some bad apps out there that contain stuff that should never be allowed on any decent persons hard drive, but I've yet to see any explanation about how exactly this sharing is going on against the users wishes.
Is there evidence of any rootkits?
Any malware setting up connections that don't seem to match the p2p program?
I noticed that little linked writeup [hp.com] blasting how a particular program, KaZaA, I believe, didn't accurately show what was shared was actually written in 2002.
Nice to see how a seven year old piece is suddenly 'evidence'.
If the only real issue is these bright [encycloped...matica.com] gentlemen [encycloped...matica.com] not knowing...

The My Documents folder is a special folder [wikipedia.org] that, by default, is located on the C:\ driveThat most software, Explorer.exe itself included, by default, will recurse subdirectoriesMost of the things discussed here can be changed, like what folders you are sharing, and even where My Docs points can be changed too...like to a different driveIf you have anything above retard level intelligence, you'd know to keep sensitive material anywhere but a default, commonly trolled, and (lacking proper security) easily exploitable [encycloped...matica.com] folder like My Docs......Like, say, in an encrypted, password-protected archive on a flash drive you never let out of your sight?
Or better yet, said archive on a fully encrypted portable hard drive that you make sure not to leave plugged in...Best solution, don't run your p2p on the same system as for super secret government work; you could maybe try running the p2p under a restricted linux virtual machine?
At bare minimum, create a  separate special user account [microsoft.com] specifically for either accessing the sensitive files, or else a restricted one for p2p activities ...then I'm inclined to think they're speaking as security experts [encycloped...matica.com], seeing as to how they've most certainly [encycloped...matica.com] passed [encycloped...matica.com] their advanced computer science classes [encycloped...matica.com].
This isn't Soviet Russia, I'll skip the propaganda, thank you very much.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935691</id>
	<title>Re:No.</title>
	<author>meerling</author>
	<datestamp>1257014880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, the moron that leaked it was, without a doubt, in violation of numerous standard security policies the government has in place.<br>Yet the lying scum want to blame anything and everything except the buffoon that screwed up.<br><br>Twenty years ago, they'd have been blaming the Xerox machine instead of the person that accidentally left copies at Kinkos after making unauthorized copies on an unsecured Xerox machine.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , the moron that leaked it was , without a doubt , in violation of numerous standard security policies the government has in place.Yet the lying scum want to blame anything and everything except the buffoon that screwed up.Twenty years ago , they 'd have been blaming the Xerox machine instead of the person that accidentally left copies at Kinkos after making unauthorized copies on an unsecured Xerox machine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, the moron that leaked it was, without a doubt, in violation of numerous standard security policies the government has in place.Yet the lying scum want to blame anything and everything except the buffoon that screwed up.Twenty years ago, they'd have been blaming the Xerox machine instead of the person that accidentally left copies at Kinkos after making unauthorized copies on an unsecured Xerox machine.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936827</id>
	<title>Re:The sadest part of this is..</title>
	<author>shentino</author>
	<datestamp>1256981160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And any mob boss worth his salt will have already gotten tipped off by a well-bribed techie at the telco long before the cops ever get the wiretap in place.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And any mob boss worth his salt will have already gotten tipped off by a well-bribed techie at the telco long before the cops ever get the wiretap in place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And any mob boss worth his salt will have already gotten tipped off by a well-bribed techie at the telco long before the cops ever get the wiretap in place.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936657</id>
	<title>Re:No.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256980020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A lot of private businesses use some sort of IRM system.  Microsoft has their IRM/RMS, and there are third party products such like Locklizard or Adobe LiveCycle which have the same functionality.</p><p>Yes, IRM is a subset of DRM, but this is one of the few cases where it is put to good use.  A good IRM system ensures that a document that is left on an unencrypted USB flash drive is not readable by unauthorized users.</p><p>Of course, P2P software is being blamed here, but all it is, is a vehicle, not the culprit.  The same exact thing could be said about iPods, USB flash drives, removable hard disks, and an upload... button on a website.  Laws won't do anything to help this.  If P2P software gets outright banned (and good luck defining P2P, as World of Warcraft uses BitTorrent), people won't care and will just encrypt their traffic to an offshore VPN or use encrypted networks (making one of the few open sources for law enforcement to passively watch go forever dark).  This cat and mouse game can be escalated with laws forcing OS makers to actively disallow P2P stuff, but that can be gotten around somehow.</p><p>If the lawmakers want an actual fix, they would do four things:</p><p>User education.  Limewire is as gimp as a quadriplegic in a vacuum bed.  People need to be taught to use other P2P software, perhaps BitTorrent clients.  Or perhaps buy the software or media in question.</p><p>Router configurations.  Most enterprise routers can block P2P software fairly easily making users to have to make it look like HTTP/HTTPS traffic or force the user to tunnel using a VPN.  Both solve the problem, and with a good monitoring system, users who deliberately evade policy can be replaced by users that don't.</p><p>IT Policies.  Windows 7 has AppLocker if an organization wants to do the white list/default deny route.  There is also the default permit, and blacklist LimeWire, Kazaa, and other clients.  Couple this with an obvious clause in the employee handbook of using P2P on a confidential machine means getting fired and this will go a long way.</p><p>An enterprise IRM system.  This ships with Windows Server 2008 and Windows Server 2008 R2 as a part of Active Directory.  Turn it on, configure Word to use it, call it done.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A lot of private businesses use some sort of IRM system .
Microsoft has their IRM/RMS , and there are third party products such like Locklizard or Adobe LiveCycle which have the same functionality.Yes , IRM is a subset of DRM , but this is one of the few cases where it is put to good use .
A good IRM system ensures that a document that is left on an unencrypted USB flash drive is not readable by unauthorized users.Of course , P2P software is being blamed here , but all it is , is a vehicle , not the culprit .
The same exact thing could be said about iPods , USB flash drives , removable hard disks , and an upload... button on a website .
Laws wo n't do anything to help this .
If P2P software gets outright banned ( and good luck defining P2P , as World of Warcraft uses BitTorrent ) , people wo n't care and will just encrypt their traffic to an offshore VPN or use encrypted networks ( making one of the few open sources for law enforcement to passively watch go forever dark ) .
This cat and mouse game can be escalated with laws forcing OS makers to actively disallow P2P stuff , but that can be gotten around somehow.If the lawmakers want an actual fix , they would do four things : User education .
Limewire is as gimp as a quadriplegic in a vacuum bed .
People need to be taught to use other P2P software , perhaps BitTorrent clients .
Or perhaps buy the software or media in question.Router configurations .
Most enterprise routers can block P2P software fairly easily making users to have to make it look like HTTP/HTTPS traffic or force the user to tunnel using a VPN .
Both solve the problem , and with a good monitoring system , users who deliberately evade policy can be replaced by users that do n't.IT Policies .
Windows 7 has AppLocker if an organization wants to do the white list/default deny route .
There is also the default permit , and blacklist LimeWire , Kazaa , and other clients .
Couple this with an obvious clause in the employee handbook of using P2P on a confidential machine means getting fired and this will go a long way.An enterprise IRM system .
This ships with Windows Server 2008 and Windows Server 2008 R2 as a part of Active Directory .
Turn it on , configure Word to use it , call it done .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A lot of private businesses use some sort of IRM system.
Microsoft has their IRM/RMS, and there are third party products such like Locklizard or Adobe LiveCycle which have the same functionality.Yes, IRM is a subset of DRM, but this is one of the few cases where it is put to good use.
A good IRM system ensures that a document that is left on an unencrypted USB flash drive is not readable by unauthorized users.Of course, P2P software is being blamed here, but all it is, is a vehicle, not the culprit.
The same exact thing could be said about iPods, USB flash drives, removable hard disks, and an upload... button on a website.
Laws won't do anything to help this.
If P2P software gets outright banned (and good luck defining P2P, as World of Warcraft uses BitTorrent), people won't care and will just encrypt their traffic to an offshore VPN or use encrypted networks (making one of the few open sources for law enforcement to passively watch go forever dark).
This cat and mouse game can be escalated with laws forcing OS makers to actively disallow P2P stuff, but that can be gotten around somehow.If the lawmakers want an actual fix, they would do four things:User education.
Limewire is as gimp as a quadriplegic in a vacuum bed.
People need to be taught to use other P2P software, perhaps BitTorrent clients.
Or perhaps buy the software or media in question.Router configurations.
Most enterprise routers can block P2P software fairly easily making users to have to make it look like HTTP/HTTPS traffic or force the user to tunnel using a VPN.
Both solve the problem, and with a good monitoring system, users who deliberately evade policy can be replaced by users that don't.IT Policies.
Windows 7 has AppLocker if an organization wants to do the white list/default deny route.
There is also the default permit, and blacklist LimeWire, Kazaa, and other clients.
Couple this with an obvious clause in the employee handbook of using P2P on a confidential machine means getting fired and this will go a long way.An enterprise IRM system.
This ships with Windows Server 2008 and Windows Server 2008 R2 as a part of Active Directory.
Turn it on, configure Word to use it, call it done.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935939</id>
	<title>RIAA Bullsh*t</title>
	<author>PPH</author>
	<datestamp>1257016980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem was the leak, not the subsequent distribution. DRM, applied at the source (the Legislature's offices) would have stopped the leak. Or at least provided a trail to its source. But once information is out there in the wild, its too late.
</p><p>From the RIAA's point of view, stopping most of the distribution of copied content is good enough. But for leaks like this, one or two copies forwarded to the right people is sufficient to do damage. For example, the Pentagon papers didn't need widespread distribution to cause a stink.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem was the leak , not the subsequent distribution .
DRM , applied at the source ( the Legislature 's offices ) would have stopped the leak .
Or at least provided a trail to its source .
But once information is out there in the wild , its too late .
From the RIAA 's point of view , stopping most of the distribution of copied content is good enough .
But for leaks like this , one or two copies forwarded to the right people is sufficient to do damage .
For example , the Pentagon papers did n't need widespread distribution to cause a stink .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem was the leak, not the subsequent distribution.
DRM, applied at the source (the Legislature's offices) would have stopped the leak.
Or at least provided a trail to its source.
But once information is out there in the wild, its too late.
From the RIAA's point of view, stopping most of the distribution of copied content is good enough.
But for leaks like this, one or two copies forwarded to the right people is sufficient to do damage.
For example, the Pentagon papers didn't need widespread distribution to cause a stink.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935599</id>
	<title>Connections</title>
	<author>Wowsers</author>
	<datestamp>1257014040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So long as two computers can communicate with each other, so you will have P2P.</p><p>Luckily, we have politicians who's only education is in English, law, history, politics, art. So it's easy to push any techno-babble on them because they are dangerously uneducated fools.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So long as two computers can communicate with each other , so you will have P2P.Luckily , we have politicians who 's only education is in English , law , history , politics , art .
So it 's easy to push any techno-babble on them because they are dangerously uneducated fools .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So long as two computers can communicate with each other, so you will have P2P.Luckily, we have politicians who's only education is in English, law, history, politics, art.
So it's easy to push any techno-babble on them because they are dangerously uneducated fools.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29937005</id>
	<title>Re:Why is this wrong?</title>
	<author>King\_TJ</author>
	<datestamp>1256983020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Which P2P sharing program are you referring to?  The ones I've seen or tried have always made it fairly clear what they're sharing on your drive.  LimeWire for example, displays a big list on your screen of the files it's marking for sharing if you click the "Share" button under "My Library" and try to share all your media.  It has filters, as well, to make it easy to only share files with certain extensions (like MP3 or AVI).</p><p>I don't get how someone could overlook the fact it shares their material, even IF the default happens to be enabling the sharing functionality?  If you're purposely ignoring a "What I'm sharing" link right at the top of the screen, and so forth - then I'd say it's the USER'S fault.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which P2P sharing program are you referring to ?
The ones I 've seen or tried have always made it fairly clear what they 're sharing on your drive .
LimeWire for example , displays a big list on your screen of the files it 's marking for sharing if you click the " Share " button under " My Library " and try to share all your media .
It has filters , as well , to make it easy to only share files with certain extensions ( like MP3 or AVI ) .I do n't get how someone could overlook the fact it shares their material , even IF the default happens to be enabling the sharing functionality ?
If you 're purposely ignoring a " What I 'm sharing " link right at the top of the screen , and so forth - then I 'd say it 's the USER 'S fault .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which P2P sharing program are you referring to?
The ones I've seen or tried have always made it fairly clear what they're sharing on your drive.
LimeWire for example, displays a big list on your screen of the files it's marking for sharing if you click the "Share" button under "My Library" and try to share all your media.
It has filters, as well, to make it easy to only share files with certain extensions (like MP3 or AVI).I don't get how someone could overlook the fact it shares their material, even IF the default happens to be enabling the sharing functionality?
If you're purposely ignoring a "What I'm sharing" link right at the top of the screen, and so forth - then I'd say it's the USER'S fault.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936459</id>
	<title>Re:Keep leak mechanics quiet.</title>
	<author>misexistentialist</author>
	<datestamp>1257021600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Leaking" information is standard practice in government to spread even more lies and confusion, though occasionally an unpleasant truth about a political enemy is released. Certainly some real information dribbles out to foreign agents, but they take your advice and keep things quiet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Leaking " information is standard practice in government to spread even more lies and confusion , though occasionally an unpleasant truth about a political enemy is released .
Certainly some real information dribbles out to foreign agents , but they take your advice and keep things quiet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Leaking" information is standard practice in government to spread even more lies and confusion, though occasionally an unpleasant truth about a political enemy is released.
Certainly some real information dribbles out to foreign agents, but they take your advice and keep things quiet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936585</id>
	<title>can't blame p2p software</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257022680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This mistake kind of seems similar to accidentally clicking "Reply All" for an email message.<br>It figures the RIAA would use this to their advantage, even though illegal music downloads have nothing whatsoever to do with a house ethics committee report.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This mistake kind of seems similar to accidentally clicking " Reply All " for an email message.It figures the RIAA would use this to their advantage , even though illegal music downloads have nothing whatsoever to do with a house ethics committee report .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This mistake kind of seems similar to accidentally clicking "Reply All" for an email message.It figures the RIAA would use this to their advantage, even though illegal music downloads have nothing whatsoever to do with a house ethics committee report.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935627</id>
	<title>No.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257014280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Of course, P2P software is entirely at fault for this incident</p></div></blockquote><p> No it isn't.  Any document of importance should be encrypted.  Anyone who has access to sensitive files is responsible for securing those files.  That includes making sure that the system they are accessing these files on does not share these files because of a setting in file sharing software.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course , P2P software is entirely at fault for this incident No it is n't .
Any document of importance should be encrypted .
Anyone who has access to sensitive files is responsible for securing those files .
That includes making sure that the system they are accessing these files on does not share these files because of a setting in file sharing software .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course, P2P software is entirely at fault for this incident No it isn't.
Any document of importance should be encrypted.
Anyone who has access to sensitive files is responsible for securing those files.
That includes making sure that the system they are accessing these files on does not share these files because of a setting in file sharing software.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935853</id>
	<title>Re:So...</title>
	<author>buchner.johannes</author>
	<datestamp>1257016260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Ahh...I love politics.</p></div><p>You mean 'people'</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ahh...I love politics.You mean 'people '</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ahh...I love politics.You mean 'people'
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936729</id>
	<title>Re:Connections</title>
	<author>ScrewMaster</author>
	<datestamp>1256980500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Socrates gave a response beyond reproach. He said, "If I am the wisest man, it is because I alone know that I know nothing."</p></div><p>A self-deprecating remark that not only expressed his own humility, but simultaneously bitchslapped everyone else. Wish I could have been there.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Socrates gave a response beyond reproach .
He said , " If I am the wisest man , it is because I alone know that I know nothing .
" A self-deprecating remark that not only expressed his own humility , but simultaneously bitchslapped everyone else .
Wish I could have been there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Socrates gave a response beyond reproach.
He said, "If I am the wisest man, it is because I alone know that I know nothing.
"A self-deprecating remark that not only expressed his own humility, but simultaneously bitchslapped everyone else.
Wish I could have been there.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936575</id>
	<title>Re:Connections</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257022560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think we shoudl get all of you educated people and make some world wide agency to fix spelling ad grammar errors on Internet. I bet you would do it for free.... it piss you off...<br>Moto of Agency would be: "Its not important what you say, but how you say it"</p><p>Oh we alredy have that... they are government &amp; politicians... ahh</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think we shoudl get all of you educated people and make some world wide agency to fix spelling ad grammar errors on Internet .
I bet you would do it for free.... it piss you off...Moto of Agency would be : " Its not important what you say , but how you say it " Oh we alredy have that... they are government &amp; politicians... ahh</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think we shoudl get all of you educated people and make some world wide agency to fix spelling ad grammar errors on Internet.
I bet you would do it for free.... it piss you off...Moto of Agency would be: "Its not important what you say, but how you say it"Oh we alredy have that... they are government &amp; politicians... ahh</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935763</id>
	<title>DRM here is good</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257015600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, I'm not blaming P2P for anything, but rather I am saying this is the exact situation where DRM could be useful.  A proper document management system would have prevent an information leak, even if the document itself had leaked.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , I 'm not blaming P2P for anything , but rather I am saying this is the exact situation where DRM could be useful .
A proper document management system would have prevent an information leak , even if the document itself had leaked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, I'm not blaming P2P for anything, but rather I am saying this is the exact situation where DRM could be useful.
A proper document management system would have prevent an information leak, even if the document itself had leaked.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935993</id>
	<title>More Please</title>
	<author>Bob9113</author>
	<datestamp>1257017460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>a 'confidential House ethics committee report,' was recently leaked through file-sharing software to the Washington Post.</i></p><p>Hi Government,</p><p>I like when the government tells me, even unintentionally, about things that it is doing to investigate allegations of wrongdoing. I would like you to do more investigations and to loop us (your employers) in on the details of the process and the outcomes. Some people will misinterpret such investigations in both directions. That is not cause to shield us from the information, it is cause to shed more daylight on the process so we, your employers, can understand what you are up to each day. This is much like my boss asking me to keep him in the loop on the projects I work on, and is commonly referred to as "accountability."</p><p>In short: More disclosures, please -- accidental, intentional, and malicious alike.</p><p>Sincerely,</p><p>Your Boss</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>a 'confidential House ethics committee report, ' was recently leaked through file-sharing software to the Washington Post.Hi Government,I like when the government tells me , even unintentionally , about things that it is doing to investigate allegations of wrongdoing .
I would like you to do more investigations and to loop us ( your employers ) in on the details of the process and the outcomes .
Some people will misinterpret such investigations in both directions .
That is not cause to shield us from the information , it is cause to shed more daylight on the process so we , your employers , can understand what you are up to each day .
This is much like my boss asking me to keep him in the loop on the projects I work on , and is commonly referred to as " accountability .
" In short : More disclosures , please -- accidental , intentional , and malicious alike.Sincerely,Your Boss</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a 'confidential House ethics committee report,' was recently leaked through file-sharing software to the Washington Post.Hi Government,I like when the government tells me, even unintentionally, about things that it is doing to investigate allegations of wrongdoing.
I would like you to do more investigations and to loop us (your employers) in on the details of the process and the outcomes.
Some people will misinterpret such investigations in both directions.
That is not cause to shield us from the information, it is cause to shed more daylight on the process so we, your employers, can understand what you are up to each day.
This is much like my boss asking me to keep him in the loop on the projects I work on, and is commonly referred to as "accountability.
"In short: More disclosures, please -- accidental, intentional, and malicious alike.Sincerely,Your Boss</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935617</id>
	<title>The sadest part of this is..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257014220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why should our government even have ethics documents that are confidential?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why should our government even have ethics documents that are confidential ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why should our government even have ethics documents that are confidential?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935847</id>
	<title>Re:Connections</title>
	<author>4D6963</author>
	<datestamp>1257016200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>Luckily, we have politicians <b>who's</b> only education is in English,</i> </p><p>So, very little overlap with your own education I presume?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Luckily , we have politicians who 's only education is in English , So , very little overlap with your own education I presume ?
; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Luckily, we have politicians who's only education is in English, So, very little overlap with your own education I presume?
;-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29937401</id>
	<title>I blame copyright</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256987280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If we're going to blame P2P software, we might as well blame the reason they were even invented - copyright and censorship.<br> <br>

If it wasn't for laws impeding the free flow of information, there wouldn't be a need for tools that try to keep the flow of information below the radar. Everything you could possibly want would be available as a direct HTTP or FTP download. It would probably even be mirrored by ISPs to cut bandwidth costs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If we 're going to blame P2P software , we might as well blame the reason they were even invented - copyright and censorship .
If it was n't for laws impeding the free flow of information , there would n't be a need for tools that try to keep the flow of information below the radar .
Everything you could possibly want would be available as a direct HTTP or FTP download .
It would probably even be mirrored by ISPs to cut bandwidth costs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If we're going to blame P2P software, we might as well blame the reason they were even invented - copyright and censorship.
If it wasn't for laws impeding the free flow of information, there wouldn't be a need for tools that try to keep the flow of information below the radar.
Everything you could possibly want would be available as a direct HTTP or FTP download.
It would probably even be mirrored by ISPs to cut bandwidth costs.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29937027</id>
	<title>Re:So...</title>
	<author>noundi</author>
	<datestamp>1256983140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"I crashed my car because I was texting while driving. #*\%?@! car...! "</p></div><p>That's completely absurd -- <i>obviously</i> your phone is to blame here.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" I crashed my car because I was texting while driving .
# * \ % ? @ ! car... !
" That 's completely absurd -- obviously your phone is to blame here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I crashed my car because I was texting while driving.
#*\%?@! car...!
"That's completely absurd -- obviously your phone is to blame here.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29937615</id>
	<title>Re:Connections</title>
	<author>4D6963</author>
	<datestamp>1256989680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I see what you did there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I see what you did there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I see what you did there.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936575</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935797</id>
	<title>Dear RIAA</title>
	<author>seeker\_1us</author>
	<datestamp>1257015780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>"the <i>ridiculous statement</i> was evidence of a need for controls on <i>corporate media conglomorates</i> to block the improper or illegal <i>control of distribution channels to maintain a monopoly over content distribution</i>."</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
There, fixed that for you.
</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" the ridiculous statement was evidence of a need for controls on corporate media conglomorates to block the improper or illegal control of distribution channels to maintain a monopoly over content distribution .
" There , fixed that for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"the ridiculous statement was evidence of a need for controls on corporate media conglomorates to block the improper or illegal control of distribution channels to maintain a monopoly over content distribution.
"

There, fixed that for you.

	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936155</id>
	<title>Re:So...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257018660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Don't blame the person who actually leaked it, blame the damned software!</i></p><p>No, I blame the people who allowed people to work on "secure" documents from unsecured computers.</p><p>Despite all the bitching &amp; moaning from the users, there is a reason IT won't let you install limewire &amp; skype on your office computer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't blame the person who actually leaked it , blame the damned software ! No , I blame the people who allowed people to work on " secure " documents from unsecured computers.Despite all the bitching &amp; moaning from the users , there is a reason IT wo n't let you install limewire &amp; skype on your office computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't blame the person who actually leaked it, blame the damned software!No, I blame the people who allowed people to work on "secure" documents from unsecured computers.Despite all the bitching &amp; moaning from the users, there is a reason IT won't let you install limewire &amp; skype on your office computer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29940157</id>
	<title>http://www.kapindir.com</title>
	<author>lale</author>
	<datestamp>1257066120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>thanks you <a href="http://www.kapindir.com/" title="kapindir.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.kapindir.com/</a> [kapindir.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>thanks you http : //www.kapindir.com/ [ kapindir.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>thanks you http://www.kapindir.com/ [kapindir.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29939241</id>
	<title>Peer to peer</title>
	<author>AniVisual</author>
	<datestamp>1257008640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> Look, this kind of stuff is only possible because it all exists in an abstract world called the Internet. In real life, such a bill would be ridiculous. By banning P2P, the only way you can communicate with a friend would be through centralized mass media, which analogue online are service providers like gmail. No possibility of gossip without a Big Brother eavesdropping. I sure as hell do not entertain there being no possibility to not let a third-party through my communications. After restricting torrents, I'm certain e-mail will be the next to be DRM'd. </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Look , this kind of stuff is only possible because it all exists in an abstract world called the Internet .
In real life , such a bill would be ridiculous .
By banning P2P , the only way you can communicate with a friend would be through centralized mass media , which analogue online are service providers like gmail .
No possibility of gossip without a Big Brother eavesdropping .
I sure as hell do not entertain there being no possibility to not let a third-party through my communications .
After restricting torrents , I 'm certain e-mail will be the next to be DRM 'd .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Look, this kind of stuff is only possible because it all exists in an abstract world called the Internet.
In real life, such a bill would be ridiculous.
By banning P2P, the only way you can communicate with a friend would be through centralized mass media, which analogue online are service providers like gmail.
No possibility of gossip without a Big Brother eavesdropping.
I sure as hell do not entertain there being no possibility to not let a third-party through my communications.
After restricting torrents, I'm certain e-mail will be the next to be DRM'd. </sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936331</id>
	<title>Re:Connections</title>
	<author>MeNeXT</author>
	<datestamp>1257020760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sir your mistake is to assume that they are educated.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sir your mistake is to assume that they are educated .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sir your mistake is to assume that they are educated.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935599</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29940409</id>
	<title>Re:So...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257071400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>"#*\%?@! tree...!"

Let's remove all trees<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>" # * \ % ? @ !
tree... ! " Let 's remove all trees : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"#*\%?@!
tree...!"

Let's remove all trees :)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936847</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935577</id>
	<title>So...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257013800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't blame the person who actually leaked it, blame the damned software!<br><br>Ahh...I love politics.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't blame the person who actually leaked it , blame the damned software ! Ahh...I love politics .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't blame the person who actually leaked it, blame the damned software!Ahh...I love politics.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936267</id>
	<title>Re:Terrible P2P Regulation Bill Will Be Fast-Track</title>
	<author>Renraku</author>
	<datestamp>1257019920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That bill is there so that someone has to fry.</p><p>No longer can you say, "I didn't know it had installed itself and started downloading all the new movies in music, and then saved them to my 'Movies' folder." and have a reasonable doubt.  Now you'll have to prove that the software in question didn't tell you that it was installing, and if it's true, the company will get nailed to the wall for it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That bill is there so that someone has to fry.No longer can you say , " I did n't know it had installed itself and started downloading all the new movies in music , and then saved them to my 'Movies ' folder .
" and have a reasonable doubt .
Now you 'll have to prove that the software in question did n't tell you that it was installing , and if it 's true , the company will get nailed to the wall for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That bill is there so that someone has to fry.No longer can you say, "I didn't know it had installed itself and started downloading all the new movies in music, and then saved them to my 'Movies' folder.
" and have a reasonable doubt.
Now you'll have to prove that the software in question didn't tell you that it was installing, and if it's true, the company will get nailed to the wall for it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935757</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935689</id>
	<title>Re:Connections</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257014820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So long as two computers can communicate with each other, so you will have P2P.</p><p>Luckily, we have politicians who's only education is in English, law, history, politics, art. So it's easy to push any techno-babble on them because they are dangerously uneducated fools.</p></div><p>They're dangerous because they are unaware of what they don't know, so they feel qualified (authorized) to make decisions about what they do not really understand.
<br> <br>
When the Oracle at Delphi pronounced Socrates the wisest man in all of Greece, Socrates gave a response beyond reproach.  He said, "If I am the wisest man, it is because I alone know that I know nothing."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So long as two computers can communicate with each other , so you will have P2P.Luckily , we have politicians who 's only education is in English , law , history , politics , art .
So it 's easy to push any techno-babble on them because they are dangerously uneducated fools.They 're dangerous because they are unaware of what they do n't know , so they feel qualified ( authorized ) to make decisions about what they do not really understand .
When the Oracle at Delphi pronounced Socrates the wisest man in all of Greece , Socrates gave a response beyond reproach .
He said , " If I am the wisest man , it is because I alone know that I know nothing .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So long as two computers can communicate with each other, so you will have P2P.Luckily, we have politicians who's only education is in English, law, history, politics, art.
So it's easy to push any techno-babble on them because they are dangerously uneducated fools.They're dangerous because they are unaware of what they don't know, so they feel qualified (authorized) to make decisions about what they do not really understand.
When the Oracle at Delphi pronounced Socrates the wisest man in all of Greece, Socrates gave a response beyond reproach.
He said, "If I am the wisest man, it is because I alone know that I know nothing.
"
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936079</id>
	<title>Re:The sadest part of this is..</title>
	<author>TwilightXaos</author>
	<datestamp>1257018240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why should our government even have ethics documents that are confidential?</p></div><p>That information is contained in confidential ethics documents.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why should our government even have ethics documents that are confidential ? That information is contained in confidential ethics documents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why should our government even have ethics documents that are confidential?That information is contained in confidential ethics documents.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935617</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935851</id>
	<title>Yep, networks are awful things</title>
	<author>gilesjuk</author>
	<datestamp>1257016200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The RIAA would love for networks and the Internet to vanish. Sharing information electronically obviously upsets them.</p><p>Which cave did they crawl out of?</p><p>Many files have been copied and accessed due to Windows file sharing mistakenly enabled on a public LAN, should it be banned too?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The RIAA would love for networks and the Internet to vanish .
Sharing information electronically obviously upsets them.Which cave did they crawl out of ? Many files have been copied and accessed due to Windows file sharing mistakenly enabled on a public LAN , should it be banned too ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The RIAA would love for networks and the Internet to vanish.
Sharing information electronically obviously upsets them.Which cave did they crawl out of?Many files have been copied and accessed due to Windows file sharing mistakenly enabled on a public LAN, should it be banned too?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29941791</id>
	<title>Re:So...</title>
	<author>budgenator</author>
	<datestamp>1257092220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apparently the people who write our laws. The Washington Post does seem to get more than their fair share of these "p2p leaks", I wouldn't be surprised if they know the system of how congress names files and actively searches the p2p networks for them. Seems reasonable if the Post can do this, that others with more nefarious purposes can also.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently the people who write our laws .
The Washington Post does seem to get more than their fair share of these " p2p leaks " , I would n't be surprised if they know the system of how congress names files and actively searches the p2p networks for them .
Seems reasonable if the Post can do this , that others with more nefarious purposes can also .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently the people who write our laws.
The Washington Post does seem to get more than their fair share of these "p2p leaks", I wouldn't be surprised if they know the system of how congress names files and actively searches the p2p networks for them.
Seems reasonable if the Post can do this, that others with more nefarious purposes can also.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29937009</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935935</id>
	<title>P2P = "Open Information Network"</title>
	<author>presidenteloco</author>
	<datestamp>1257016920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Any time you read "peer to peer software" in a RIAA statement or legal proposal, you should<br>substitute "open information networks", because there is no essential difference between those<br>concepts.</p><p>So what the RIAA is saying is:<br>"the disclosure was evidence of a need for controls on open information networks to block the improper or illegal exchange of music."</p><p>That allows us to frame the debate properly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Any time you read " peer to peer software " in a RIAA statement or legal proposal , you shouldsubstitute " open information networks " , because there is no essential difference between thoseconcepts.So what the RIAA is saying is : " the disclosure was evidence of a need for controls on open information networks to block the improper or illegal exchange of music .
" That allows us to frame the debate properly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Any time you read "peer to peer software" in a RIAA statement or legal proposal, you shouldsubstitute "open information networks", because there is no essential difference between thoseconcepts.So what the RIAA is saying is:"the disclosure was evidence of a need for controls on open information networks to block the improper or illegal exchange of music.
"That allows us to frame the debate properly.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936163</id>
	<title>Should have called the Bush IT people</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257018720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Should have called some of Bush's old IT people - not only did they avoid leaks, they were fans of destroying incriminating evidence *before* it leaked!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Should have called some of Bush 's old IT people - not only did they avoid leaks , they were fans of destroying incriminating evidence * before * it leaked !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Should have called some of Bush's old IT people - not only did they avoid leaks, they were fans of destroying incriminating evidence *before* it leaked!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935981</id>
	<title>What we really need</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257017340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We don't need any more file sharing, or file sharing rules.  We really need politician sharing!  Let's start sharing politicians with the Moon, Mars, Jupiter, and especially with Uranus.  Oh - wait - that last would be redundant, wouldn't it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We do n't need any more file sharing , or file sharing rules .
We really need politician sharing !
Let 's start sharing politicians with the Moon , Mars , Jupiter , and especially with Uranus .
Oh - wait - that last would be redundant , would n't it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We don't need any more file sharing, or file sharing rules.
We really need politician sharing!
Let's start sharing politicians with the Moon, Mars, Jupiter, and especially with Uranus.
Oh - wait - that last would be redundant, wouldn't it?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29935911</id>
	<title>A potent force for destabilization.</title>
	<author>MarkvW</author>
	<datestamp>1257016680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The computer and the internet are potent forces for destablization, but they are also potent forces for control.  We're fortunate to live in an age where we can watch people grapple over their initial implementation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The computer and the internet are potent forces for destablization , but they are also potent forces for control .
We 're fortunate to live in an age where we can watch people grapple over their initial implementation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The computer and the internet are potent forces for destablization, but they are also potent forces for control.
We're fortunate to live in an age where we can watch people grapple over their initial implementation.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29936935</id>
	<title>Re:Connections</title>
	<author>cbiltcliffe</author>
	<datestamp>1256982300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Please tell me what technical error or incorrect terminology she used, because I can't see it.</p></div><p>Well, the immediate blame on a junior staffer seems suspect to me.  Although it's not technically a technical error, whenever something goes wrong in government that results in a potential scandal, it always seems to be a junior staffer that's at fault, according to the government office involved.</p><p>I find it difficult to believe that a prime minister, president, premier, high ranking minister, congressman, or what have you, is never involved in something stupid like this.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Please tell me what technical error or incorrect terminology she used , because I ca n't see it.Well , the immediate blame on a junior staffer seems suspect to me .
Although it 's not technically a technical error , whenever something goes wrong in government that results in a potential scandal , it always seems to be a junior staffer that 's at fault , according to the government office involved.I find it difficult to believe that a prime minister , president , premier , high ranking minister , congressman , or what have you , is never involved in something stupid like this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please tell me what technical error or incorrect terminology she used, because I can't see it.Well, the immediate blame on a junior staffer seems suspect to me.
Although it's not technically a technical error, whenever something goes wrong in government that results in a potential scandal, it always seems to be a junior staffer that's at fault, according to the government office involved.I find it difficult to believe that a prime minister, president, premier, high ranking minister, congressman, or what have you, is never involved in something stupid like this.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_31_1547221.29939105</id>
	<title>Illicit Activities...</title>
	<author>hackus</author>
	<datestamp>1257006540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and other such things our government engages in, could ultimately be exposed on a P2P network rather easily.</p><p>I can see why lawmakers...excuse me, corporations are rather in a hurry to pass laws to make software of any kind, not approved by the government...(sorry...there I go again....I mean corporations of course....living in the past I guess...) illegal, punishable by long prison sentences, hard labour or both.</p><p>-Hack</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and other such things our government engages in , could ultimately be exposed on a P2P network rather easily.I can see why lawmakers...excuse me , corporations are rather in a hurry to pass laws to make software of any kind , not approved by the government... ( sorry...there I go again....I mean corporations of course....living in the past I guess... ) illegal , punishable by long prison sentences , hard labour or both.-Hack</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and other such things our government engages in, could ultimately be exposed on a P2P network rather easily.I can see why lawmakers...excuse me, corporations are rather in a hurry to pass laws to make software of any kind, not approved by the government...(sorry...there I go again....I mean corporations of course....living in the past I guess...) illegal, punishable by long prison sentences, hard labour or both.-Hack</sentencetext>
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