<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_30_1830255</id>
	<title>EPA To Buy Small Town In Kansas</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1256930160000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://poncacityweloveyou.com/" rel="nofollow">Ponca City, We love you</a> writes <i>"The Wichita Eagle reports that Congress has approved funds to relocate the population of the southeast Kansas town of Treece, which is <a href="http://www.kansas.com/news/state/story/1033610.html">plagued with lead, zinc and other chemical contamination</a> left by a century of mining. Estimates say it will cost about $3 million to $3.5 million to buy out the town, which is surrounded by huge piles of mining waste called 'chat' and dotted with uncapped shafts and cave-ins filled with brackish, polluted water. 'It's been a long, dusty, chat-covered road, but for the citizens of Treece, finally, help will be on the way,' said Senator Pat Roberts of Kansas who has been pushing for a buyout of Treece for two years. The population of Treece has dwindled to about 100 people, almost all of whom want to move but say they can't because the pollution and an ongoing EPA cleanup project makes it impossible to sell a house. The EPA has <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/06/30/oklahoma.toxic.town/?iref=mpstoryview">already bought out the neighboring town of Picher, Oklahoma</a>, stripping Treece of quick access to jobs, shopping, recreation and services, including fire protection and cable TV. Both cities were once prosperous mining communities but the ore ran out and the mines were abandoned by the early 1970s. Of 16 children tested for lead levels in Treece, two had levels between 5 and 10 micrograms per deciliter of blood and <a href="http://www.kansas.com/news/story/1005154.html">one had a level of more than 10 times the threshold for lead poisoning</a>."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ponca City , We love you writes " The Wichita Eagle reports that Congress has approved funds to relocate the population of the southeast Kansas town of Treece , which is plagued with lead , zinc and other chemical contamination left by a century of mining .
Estimates say it will cost about $ 3 million to $ 3.5 million to buy out the town , which is surrounded by huge piles of mining waste called 'chat ' and dotted with uncapped shafts and cave-ins filled with brackish , polluted water .
'It 's been a long , dusty , chat-covered road , but for the citizens of Treece , finally , help will be on the way, ' said Senator Pat Roberts of Kansas who has been pushing for a buyout of Treece for two years .
The population of Treece has dwindled to about 100 people , almost all of whom want to move but say they ca n't because the pollution and an ongoing EPA cleanup project makes it impossible to sell a house .
The EPA has already bought out the neighboring town of Picher , Oklahoma , stripping Treece of quick access to jobs , shopping , recreation and services , including fire protection and cable TV .
Both cities were once prosperous mining communities but the ore ran out and the mines were abandoned by the early 1970s .
Of 16 children tested for lead levels in Treece , two had levels between 5 and 10 micrograms per deciliter of blood and one had a level of more than 10 times the threshold for lead poisoning .
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<sentencetext>Ponca City, We love you writes "The Wichita Eagle reports that Congress has approved funds to relocate the population of the southeast Kansas town of Treece, which is plagued with lead, zinc and other chemical contamination left by a century of mining.
Estimates say it will cost about $3 million to $3.5 million to buy out the town, which is surrounded by huge piles of mining waste called 'chat' and dotted with uncapped shafts and cave-ins filled with brackish, polluted water.
'It's been a long, dusty, chat-covered road, but for the citizens of Treece, finally, help will be on the way,' said Senator Pat Roberts of Kansas who has been pushing for a buyout of Treece for two years.
The population of Treece has dwindled to about 100 people, almost all of whom want to move but say they can't because the pollution and an ongoing EPA cleanup project makes it impossible to sell a house.
The EPA has already bought out the neighboring town of Picher, Oklahoma, stripping Treece of quick access to jobs, shopping, recreation and services, including fire protection and cable TV.
Both cities were once prosperous mining communities but the ore ran out and the mines were abandoned by the early 1970s.
Of 16 children tested for lead levels in Treece, two had levels between 5 and 10 micrograms per deciliter of blood and one had a level of more than 10 times the threshold for lead poisoning.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928795</id>
	<title>Not Fair...</title>
	<author>stms</author>
	<datestamp>1256896620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wish I could buy my own town. The EPA gets all the cool stuff.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wish I could buy my own town .
The EPA gets all the cool stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wish I could buy my own town.
The EPA gets all the cool stuff.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29929153</id>
	<title>You Keep Using That Word...</title>
	<author>Stormy Dragon</author>
	<datestamp>1256898480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Considering how ridiculously broke our federal government is, I'm not sure in what sense it can continue to be said that it is "buying" or "paying" for things.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Considering how ridiculously broke our federal government is , I 'm not sure in what sense it can continue to be said that it is " buying " or " paying " for things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Considering how ridiculously broke our federal government is, I'm not sure in what sense it can continue to be said that it is "buying" or "paying" for things.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29927649</id>
	<title>At least they...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256934240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...didn't put a DOME around it, barring everyone in the town from the rest of the world!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...did n't put a DOME around it , barring everyone in the town from the rest of the world !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...didn't put a DOME around it, barring everyone in the town from the rest of the world!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928739</id>
	<title>early 1970s abandoned the mines?!?</title>
	<author>sgt scrub</author>
	<datestamp>1256896380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That is why I hate early 1970s!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is why I hate early 1970s !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is why I hate early 1970s!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928029</id>
	<title>Photos of the pollution</title>
	<author>TheNarrator</author>
	<datestamp>1256936040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some photos from around Treese:</p><p>Chat<br><a href="http://www.panoramio.com/photo/3579757" title="panoramio.com">http://www.panoramio.com/photo/3579757</a> [panoramio.com]</p><p>Cave Ins<br><a href="http://www.panoramio.com/photo/3579725" title="panoramio.com">http://www.panoramio.com/photo/3579725</a> [panoramio.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some photos from around Treese : Chathttp : //www.panoramio.com/photo/3579757 [ panoramio.com ] Cave Inshttp : //www.panoramio.com/photo/3579725 [ panoramio.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some photos from around Treese:Chathttp://www.panoramio.com/photo/3579757 [panoramio.com]Cave Inshttp://www.panoramio.com/photo/3579725 [panoramio.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29930733</id>
	<title>Is this constitutional?</title>
	<author>leachim6</author>
	<datestamp>1256908920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is it constitutional for the EPA, a government-funded agency, to buy a civilian town?<br>I really don't know, does anyone else see this as crossing some sort of line?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it constitutional for the EPA , a government-funded agency , to buy a civilian town ? I really do n't know , does anyone else see this as crossing some sort of line ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it constitutional for the EPA, a government-funded agency, to buy a civilian town?I really don't know, does anyone else see this as crossing some sort of line?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29930869</id>
	<title>Re:Funny how this always happens</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256909940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Protip: the "rich owners" are the tax payers...
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Protip : the " rich owners " are the tax payers.. .</tokentext>
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Protip: the "rich owners" are the tax payers...
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29927989</id>
	<title>Listen to the old coot...</title>
	<author>BodeNGE</author>
	<datestamp>1256935800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Abe Simpson was right.  EEEPAAA!!!!!!
Are they going to cover it in a glass dome too?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Abe Simpson was right .
EEEPAAA ! ! ! ! ! ! Are they going to cover it in a glass dome too ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Abe Simpson was right.
EEEPAAA!!!!!!
Are they going to cover it in a glass dome too?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29929221</id>
	<title>Re:Funny how this always happens</title>
	<author>Dogtanian</author>
	<datestamp>1256899020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>[..]what lies around the cities of Picher and Treece is an environmental catastrophe of the worst kind that needs to be cleaned up. If you want to see for yourself, look it up on Google Earth. These cities are dwarfed by dunes of this mining waste (chat).</p></div><p> <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;source=s\_q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=treece&amp;sll=37.0625,-95.677068&amp;sspn=33.901528,56.513672&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;hq=&amp;hnear=Treece,+Cherokee,+Kansas&amp;ll=36.980272,-94.835529&amp;spn=0.016696,0.043945&amp;t=h&amp;z=15" title="google.com">This is Treece.</a> [google.com] Zoom out for what I assume are the dunes. Well.... yeah.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>[ .. ] what lies around the cities of Picher and Treece is an environmental catastrophe of the worst kind that needs to be cleaned up .
If you want to see for yourself , look it up on Google Earth .
These cities are dwarfed by dunes of this mining waste ( chat ) .
This is Treece .
[ google.com ] Zoom out for what I assume are the dunes .
Well.... yeah .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[..]what lies around the cities of Picher and Treece is an environmental catastrophe of the worst kind that needs to be cleaned up.
If you want to see for yourself, look it up on Google Earth.
These cities are dwarfed by dunes of this mining waste (chat).
This is Treece.
[google.com] Zoom out for what I assume are the dunes.
Well.... yeah.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928617</id>
	<title>Re:Funny how this always happens</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256895600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Too bad they make more than 85\% of the money, meaning they still don't even pay their fair share.</p><p>Do you really think that rich folks stealing from other rich folks, as you are trying to spin this, is ok?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Too bad they make more than 85 \ % of the money , meaning they still do n't even pay their fair share.Do you really think that rich folks stealing from other rich folks , as you are trying to spin this , is ok ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Too bad they make more than 85\% of the money, meaning they still don't even pay their fair share.Do you really think that rich folks stealing from other rich folks, as you are trying to spin this, is ok?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928481</id>
	<title>OK, wait.  That's all it costs!??!</title>
	<author>wonkavader</author>
	<datestamp>1256894880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You mean I can buy an entire town for $3,000,000?  That's not a lot of money for a bunch of buildings and some land.</p><p>So what do you do with a polluted site?</p><p>I can't think of any business model, but there has to be something...</p><p>Wind farm?  Solar?  Landfill?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean I can buy an entire town for $ 3,000,000 ?
That 's not a lot of money for a bunch of buildings and some land.So what do you do with a polluted site ? I ca n't think of any business model , but there has to be something...Wind farm ?
Solar ? Landfill ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean I can buy an entire town for $3,000,000?
That's not a lot of money for a bunch of buildings and some land.So what do you do with a polluted site?I can't think of any business model, but there has to be something...Wind farm?
Solar?  Landfill?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928667</id>
	<title>Re:Photos of the pollution</title>
	<author>speleo</author>
	<datestamp>1256895900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I grew up near this area over the state line in neighboring Joplin Missouri.</p><p>Back in the 70s and 80s piles of chat hundreds of feet tall could be seen for miles. Chat is the local term for the mining waste -- in this case mostly limestone that's been pulverized and the lead and zinc removed. But there are trace amounts of lead remaining. Most of the chat has since been removed and used as railroad ballast and road base.</p><p>As kids we used to play in these chat piles -- you could find all kinds of interesting minerals and occasionally fossils. Occasionally the ground would collapse around the flooded and abandoned mines.</p><p>I was just back to this area several months ago and me and some friends spent the day taking pictures around Picher, OK and nearby Route 66. Picher is essentially a ghost town nowadays, but interestingly you can still drive and walk around the area, even though it's an EPA superfund site.</p><p>BTW, there's a geek connection to Picher. One of the companies to survive the mining is Eagle-Picher; they were an early innovator in battery technology and became a major supplier of batteries in aerospace, including the batteries for the Apollo missions. In nearby Quapaw, OK that built a boron enrichment plant producing boron 10 isotopes for the nuclear industry, too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I grew up near this area over the state line in neighboring Joplin Missouri.Back in the 70s and 80s piles of chat hundreds of feet tall could be seen for miles .
Chat is the local term for the mining waste -- in this case mostly limestone that 's been pulverized and the lead and zinc removed .
But there are trace amounts of lead remaining .
Most of the chat has since been removed and used as railroad ballast and road base.As kids we used to play in these chat piles -- you could find all kinds of interesting minerals and occasionally fossils .
Occasionally the ground would collapse around the flooded and abandoned mines.I was just back to this area several months ago and me and some friends spent the day taking pictures around Picher , OK and nearby Route 66 .
Picher is essentially a ghost town nowadays , but interestingly you can still drive and walk around the area , even though it 's an EPA superfund site.BTW , there 's a geek connection to Picher .
One of the companies to survive the mining is Eagle-Picher ; they were an early innovator in battery technology and became a major supplier of batteries in aerospace , including the batteries for the Apollo missions .
In nearby Quapaw , OK that built a boron enrichment plant producing boron 10 isotopes for the nuclear industry , too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I grew up near this area over the state line in neighboring Joplin Missouri.Back in the 70s and 80s piles of chat hundreds of feet tall could be seen for miles.
Chat is the local term for the mining waste -- in this case mostly limestone that's been pulverized and the lead and zinc removed.
But there are trace amounts of lead remaining.
Most of the chat has since been removed and used as railroad ballast and road base.As kids we used to play in these chat piles -- you could find all kinds of interesting minerals and occasionally fossils.
Occasionally the ground would collapse around the flooded and abandoned mines.I was just back to this area several months ago and me and some friends spent the day taking pictures around Picher, OK and nearby Route 66.
Picher is essentially a ghost town nowadays, but interestingly you can still drive and walk around the area, even though it's an EPA superfund site.BTW, there's a geek connection to Picher.
One of the companies to survive the mining is Eagle-Picher; they were an early innovator in battery technology and became a major supplier of batteries in aerospace, including the batteries for the Apollo missions.
In nearby Quapaw, OK that built a boron enrichment plant producing boron 10 isotopes for the nuclear industry, too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29929513</id>
	<title>Re:Funny how this always happens</title>
	<author>timmarhy</author>
	<datestamp>1256901480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"In the end it's the tax payers and not the rich owners that end up paying for the clean ups"<p>
i can't comment too much on the USA's current system as i'm not so familar with it, but australian companies must pay huge bonds before they are granted mining tenements. These are held by the government to cover rehab costs if the company goes belly up. also considering the massive royalties mining companies pay as well as the income tax paid from all the jobs, and they more then pay for themselfs, claiming otherwise is a false economy.</p><p>
I would suspect this kind of arrangement is now in place in the USA for any current activity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" In the end it 's the tax payers and not the rich owners that end up paying for the clean ups " i ca n't comment too much on the USA 's current system as i 'm not so familar with it , but australian companies must pay huge bonds before they are granted mining tenements .
These are held by the government to cover rehab costs if the company goes belly up .
also considering the massive royalties mining companies pay as well as the income tax paid from all the jobs , and they more then pay for themselfs , claiming otherwise is a false economy .
I would suspect this kind of arrangement is now in place in the USA for any current activity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"In the end it's the tax payers and not the rich owners that end up paying for the clean ups"
i can't comment too much on the USA's current system as i'm not so familar with it, but australian companies must pay huge bonds before they are granted mining tenements.
These are held by the government to cover rehab costs if the company goes belly up.
also considering the massive royalties mining companies pay as well as the income tax paid from all the jobs, and they more then pay for themselfs, claiming otherwise is a false economy.
I would suspect this kind of arrangement is now in place in the USA for any current activity.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29927669</id>
	<title>Funny how this always happens</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256934300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In the end it's the tax payers and not the rich owners that end up paying for the clean ups. It's my main opposition to nuclear power not the reactors it's the clean up from both the mines and processing sites. It's true of most mineral based resources that they cut corners on extracting and processing and the people living around the places and tax payers generally suffer. It's long overdue that we end the corporate veil for this kind of abuse and bleed the ones that profited dry to pay for the mess. There's a whole town full of houses we can let them have cheap to live in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the end it 's the tax payers and not the rich owners that end up paying for the clean ups .
It 's my main opposition to nuclear power not the reactors it 's the clean up from both the mines and processing sites .
It 's true of most mineral based resources that they cut corners on extracting and processing and the people living around the places and tax payers generally suffer .
It 's long overdue that we end the corporate veil for this kind of abuse and bleed the ones that profited dry to pay for the mess .
There 's a whole town full of houses we can let them have cheap to live in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the end it's the tax payers and not the rich owners that end up paying for the clean ups.
It's my main opposition to nuclear power not the reactors it's the clean up from both the mines and processing sites.
It's true of most mineral based resources that they cut corners on extracting and processing and the people living around the places and tax payers generally suffer.
It's long overdue that we end the corporate veil for this kind of abuse and bleed the ones that profited dry to pay for the mess.
There's a whole town full of houses we can let them have cheap to live in.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29930987</id>
	<title>Re:Require mining companies to post a bond</title>
	<author>Bovius</author>
	<datestamp>1256910840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I like this plan, or at least most of it, but if I owned a company, I would hate the plan. Requiring a full quarter of all revenue to vanish into an escrow instead of putting that money back into the company would be crippling, even if the money earned interest. The ROI of the business would have to stay well above \%25 just to stay afloat. For a short mining operation, this might be feasible for a big corporation with a lot of capital to throw around, one that can afford to fund a few years of operating costs before getting returns. The barrier to entry for anyone smaller than that would just be too great.</p><p>If businesses don't like it, then the Chamber of Commerce won't like it, which means millions of dollars of lobbying money will be used to hammer any proposal looking like this into the ground.</p><p>Sorry. I like the basic idea, though; put the burden of potential environmental damage on the business, and do it by assigning responsibility at the beginning of the process instead of trying to sift through the fallout afterward.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I like this plan , or at least most of it , but if I owned a company , I would hate the plan .
Requiring a full quarter of all revenue to vanish into an escrow instead of putting that money back into the company would be crippling , even if the money earned interest .
The ROI of the business would have to stay well above \ % 25 just to stay afloat .
For a short mining operation , this might be feasible for a big corporation with a lot of capital to throw around , one that can afford to fund a few years of operating costs before getting returns .
The barrier to entry for anyone smaller than that would just be too great.If businesses do n't like it , then the Chamber of Commerce wo n't like it , which means millions of dollars of lobbying money will be used to hammer any proposal looking like this into the ground.Sorry .
I like the basic idea , though ; put the burden of potential environmental damage on the business , and do it by assigning responsibility at the beginning of the process instead of trying to sift through the fallout afterward .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like this plan, or at least most of it, but if I owned a company, I would hate the plan.
Requiring a full quarter of all revenue to vanish into an escrow instead of putting that money back into the company would be crippling, even if the money earned interest.
The ROI of the business would have to stay well above \%25 just to stay afloat.
For a short mining operation, this might be feasible for a big corporation with a lot of capital to throw around, one that can afford to fund a few years of operating costs before getting returns.
The barrier to entry for anyone smaller than that would just be too great.If businesses don't like it, then the Chamber of Commerce won't like it, which means millions of dollars of lobbying money will be used to hammer any proposal looking like this into the ground.Sorry.
I like the basic idea, though; put the burden of potential environmental damage on the business, and do it by assigning responsibility at the beginning of the process instead of trying to sift through the fallout afterward.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29932363</id>
	<title>Re:I hate government spending but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256926920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am thinking about the "Sacrifice Zones" in Snow Crash.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am thinking about the " Sacrifice Zones " in Snow Crash .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am thinking about the "Sacrifice Zones" in Snow Crash.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928279</id>
	<title>Re:I hate government spending but...</title>
	<author>tonytnnt</author>
	<datestamp>1256893920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're right. $3 million isn't all that much for a federal environmental job. They may still have to clean up the mess though. And that can take quite a bit more money, especially considering there's probably both soil and groundwater contamination there. But when you have situations like this where an entire community is seriously affected, it's not abnormal to relocate them. (See Love Canal and Times Beach, Missouri for some environmental history.)</p><p>Note: I'm just starting off in the environmental remediation industry. All opinions contained herein are my own, and are not necessarily representative of my employer or clients.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're right .
$ 3 million is n't all that much for a federal environmental job .
They may still have to clean up the mess though .
And that can take quite a bit more money , especially considering there 's probably both soil and groundwater contamination there .
But when you have situations like this where an entire community is seriously affected , it 's not abnormal to relocate them .
( See Love Canal and Times Beach , Missouri for some environmental history .
) Note : I 'm just starting off in the environmental remediation industry .
All opinions contained herein are my own , and are not necessarily representative of my employer or clients .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're right.
$3 million isn't all that much for a federal environmental job.
They may still have to clean up the mess though.
And that can take quite a bit more money, especially considering there's probably both soil and groundwater contamination there.
But when you have situations like this where an entire community is seriously affected, it's not abnormal to relocate them.
(See Love Canal and Times Beach, Missouri for some environmental history.
)Note: I'm just starting off in the environmental remediation industry.
All opinions contained herein are my own, and are not necessarily representative of my employer or clients.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29934513</id>
	<title>Re:Require mining companies to post a bond</title>
	<author>LoRdTAW</author>
	<datestamp>1257003600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ah yes but the trick is to hide the waste so the site looks clean and you get your money back.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah yes but the trick is to hide the waste so the site looks clean and you get your money back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah yes but the trick is to hide the waste so the site looks clean and you get your money back.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928583</id>
	<title>Wait a second...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256895480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So the mines closed in the 70's. That's nearly 40 years ago.</p><p>There's 100 people left, complaining that they can't sell their house?</p><p>Um... I call bullshit.</p><p>In 40 years, they should have been able to -pay-off-their-mortgage- cut their losses, and get the fuck out.</p><p>Even if they don't, they're putting a (very realistic) price on their health, and they're f-ing -dumb- for doing that.</p><p>If I found out that my town was -that- polluted, I'd move, default on the mortgage, and live (longer!) with the consequences. Anything beyond that would be short-sighted, ignorant, and just plain fucking dumb.</p><p>But no. Instead, they want someone else to fix their problem for them. Whiny ass bitches aren't willing to do what's necessary to protect themselves, I say let them all die.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So the mines closed in the 70 's .
That 's nearly 40 years ago.There 's 100 people left , complaining that they ca n't sell their house ? Um... I call bullshit.In 40 years , they should have been able to -pay-off-their-mortgage- cut their losses , and get the fuck out.Even if they do n't , they 're putting a ( very realistic ) price on their health , and they 're f-ing -dumb- for doing that.If I found out that my town was -that- polluted , I 'd move , default on the mortgage , and live ( longer !
) with the consequences .
Anything beyond that would be short-sighted , ignorant , and just plain fucking dumb.But no .
Instead , they want someone else to fix their problem for them .
Whiny ass bitches are n't willing to do what 's necessary to protect themselves , I say let them all die .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So the mines closed in the 70's.
That's nearly 40 years ago.There's 100 people left, complaining that they can't sell their house?Um... I call bullshit.In 40 years, they should have been able to -pay-off-their-mortgage- cut their losses, and get the fuck out.Even if they don't, they're putting a (very realistic) price on their health, and they're f-ing -dumb- for doing that.If I found out that my town was -that- polluted, I'd move, default on the mortgage, and live (longer!
) with the consequences.
Anything beyond that would be short-sighted, ignorant, and just plain fucking dumb.But no.
Instead, they want someone else to fix their problem for them.
Whiny ass bitches aren't willing to do what's necessary to protect themselves, I say let them all die.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29932977</id>
	<title>Re:Funny how this always happens</title>
	<author>Mindcontrolled</author>
	<datestamp>1256983560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, around here, the dismantling of a single reactor - the experimental reactor at J&#252;lich, Germany - cost about 500 million euro. Dismantling started 2003 and will probably take until 2015. I wouldn't call that easy. The reactor in question was a government funded research project. No commercial reactor around here has ever been dismantled, but I have no doubt, that the energy corporations will dump those costs on society when it comes to that. I wouldn't call that an easy cleanup.<br> <br>Don't get me wrong, I am by no means anti-nuclear. I sincerely believe that we can run nuclear plant safely - and we will need to. But the externalities can't just be dumped on society, while the profits are funneled to some corporation.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , around here , the dismantling of a single reactor - the experimental reactor at J   lich , Germany - cost about 500 million euro .
Dismantling started 2003 and will probably take until 2015 .
I would n't call that easy .
The reactor in question was a government funded research project .
No commercial reactor around here has ever been dismantled , but I have no doubt , that the energy corporations will dump those costs on society when it comes to that .
I would n't call that an easy cleanup .
Do n't get me wrong , I am by no means anti-nuclear .
I sincerely believe that we can run nuclear plant safely - and we will need to .
But the externalities ca n't just be dumped on society , while the profits are funneled to some corporation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, around here, the dismantling of a single reactor - the experimental reactor at Jülich, Germany - cost about 500 million euro.
Dismantling started 2003 and will probably take until 2015.
I wouldn't call that easy.
The reactor in question was a government funded research project.
No commercial reactor around here has ever been dismantled, but I have no doubt, that the energy corporations will dump those costs on society when it comes to that.
I wouldn't call that an easy cleanup.
Don't get me wrong, I am by no means anti-nuclear.
I sincerely believe that we can run nuclear plant safely - and we will need to.
But the externalities can't just be dumped on society, while the profits are funneled to some corporation.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928835</id>
	<title>Re:OK, wait. That's all it costs!??!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256896800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I hear there's Lead there, maybe you could open a mine?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hear there 's Lead there , maybe you could open a mine ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hear there's Lead there, maybe you could open a mine?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29931817</id>
	<title>Royalties</title>
	<author>Magrovsky</author>
	<datestamp>1256919360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just curious here, i have no idea how the US legislation on mineral resources works.</p><p>Don't these companies pay royalties or some kind of compensation to the federal gov. to explore those resources?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just curious here , i have no idea how the US legislation on mineral resources works.Do n't these companies pay royalties or some kind of compensation to the federal gov .
to explore those resources ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just curious here, i have no idea how the US legislation on mineral resources works.Don't these companies pay royalties or some kind of compensation to the federal gov.
to explore those resources?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928049</id>
	<title>Senator Pat Roberts of Kansas</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256936040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ah yes, Senator Pat Roberts of Kansas. The same senator who voted to protect KBR from rape charges. He's such a class act.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah yes , Senator Pat Roberts of Kansas .
The same senator who voted to protect KBR from rape charges .
He 's such a class act .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah yes, Senator Pat Roberts of Kansas.
The same senator who voted to protect KBR from rape charges.
He's such a class act.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928011</id>
	<title>Obligatory...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256935920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1) Mine out everything you can, and pile waste all around<br>2) Sell land to EPA<br>3) ???<br>4) Profit!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) Mine out everything you can , and pile waste all around2 ) Sell land to EPA3 ) ? ?
? 4 ) Profit !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) Mine out everything you can, and pile waste all around2) Sell land to EPA3) ??
?4) Profit!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29932213</id>
	<title>Re:Funny how this always happens</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1256924460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>In the end a coal plant puts out as much radioactive waste as a nuclear plant. It just dilutes it and spews it into the air. Nuclear is by far the least of all evils.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>But it glows, man! It GLOWS! It must be evil. And the name, nucuelar... it just sounds sinister.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the end a coal plant puts out as much radioactive waste as a nuclear plant .
It just dilutes it and spews it into the air .
Nuclear is by far the least of all evils .
But it glows , man !
It GLOWS !
It must be evil .
And the name , nucuelar... it just sounds sinister .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the end a coal plant puts out as much radioactive waste as a nuclear plant.
It just dilutes it and spews it into the air.
Nuclear is by far the least of all evils.
But it glows, man!
It GLOWS!
It must be evil.
And the name, nucuelar... it just sounds sinister.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928025</id>
	<title>Not the first time</title>
	<author>wiredog</author>
	<datestamp>1256935980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Times\_Beach,\_Missouri" title="wikipedia.org">Times Beach</a> [wikipedia.org], <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love\_Canal" title="wikipedia.org">Love Canal</a> [wikipedia.org], etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Times Beach [ wikipedia.org ] , Love Canal [ wikipedia.org ] , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Times Beach [wikipedia.org], Love Canal [wikipedia.org], etc.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29927635</id>
	<title>So I hear the EPA is moving all the residents to</title>
	<author>Cornwallis</author>
	<datestamp>1256934180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Times Beach, Missouri.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Times Beach , Missouri .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Times Beach, Missouri.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928353</id>
	<title>your tax dollars at work</title>
	<author>jipn4</author>
	<datestamp>1256894340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Companies extracted the minerals without actually paying the true cost of their actions (and thereby generated higher profits), and now the taxpayer needs to pick up the bill.  Of course, the relocation is only the tip of the iceberg: medical costs and environmental costs are likely to be many times over the cost of the relocation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Companies extracted the minerals without actually paying the true cost of their actions ( and thereby generated higher profits ) , and now the taxpayer needs to pick up the bill .
Of course , the relocation is only the tip of the iceberg : medical costs and environmental costs are likely to be many times over the cost of the relocation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Companies extracted the minerals without actually paying the true cost of their actions (and thereby generated higher profits), and now the taxpayer needs to pick up the bill.
Of course, the relocation is only the tip of the iceberg: medical costs and environmental costs are likely to be many times over the cost of the relocation.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29927611</id>
	<title>sounds reasonable, but</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256934060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There could be lots more (hundreds) towns standing in line by this criteria.</p><p>Maybe the townspeople should've just built a big high school football stadium (Friday Night Lights) and sucked it up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There could be lots more ( hundreds ) towns standing in line by this criteria.Maybe the townspeople should 've just built a big high school football stadium ( Friday Night Lights ) and sucked it up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There could be lots more (hundreds) towns standing in line by this criteria.Maybe the townspeople should've just built a big high school football stadium (Friday Night Lights) and sucked it up.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928489</id>
	<title>Re:I hate government spending but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256894940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a depressed mining town, $3 Mil sounds about right.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a depressed mining town , $ 3 Mil sounds about right .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a depressed mining town, $3 Mil sounds about right.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29931733</id>
	<title>Re:Funny how this always happens</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256918460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not to defend coal here, but in terms of human health, concentration is probably the most important factor. A small enough amount of something (or spread out over a long enough time) is harmless, a large enough amount (or enough over a short enough time) is destructive. Coal plant exhaust is spewed everywhere, but that does mostly disperse it. Whereas nuclear leftovers are concentrated enough to get your choice of heavy metal poisoning and radiation damage. This makes it hard to say which one is more or less safe or dangerous in the big picture.</p><p>(Coal plants also release greenhouse gases, though...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to defend coal here , but in terms of human health , concentration is probably the most important factor .
A small enough amount of something ( or spread out over a long enough time ) is harmless , a large enough amount ( or enough over a short enough time ) is destructive .
Coal plant exhaust is spewed everywhere , but that does mostly disperse it .
Whereas nuclear leftovers are concentrated enough to get your choice of heavy metal poisoning and radiation damage .
This makes it hard to say which one is more or less safe or dangerous in the big picture .
( Coal plants also release greenhouse gases , though... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to defend coal here, but in terms of human health, concentration is probably the most important factor.
A small enough amount of something (or spread out over a long enough time) is harmless, a large enough amount (or enough over a short enough time) is destructive.
Coal plant exhaust is spewed everywhere, but that does mostly disperse it.
Whereas nuclear leftovers are concentrated enough to get your choice of heavy metal poisoning and radiation damage.
This makes it hard to say which one is more or less safe or dangerous in the big picture.
(Coal plants also release greenhouse gases, though...)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29929231</id>
	<title>Abandoned Town Security?</title>
	<author>Cryogenic Specter</author>
	<datestamp>1256899080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So, if they leave the whole town abandoned, what is going to keep all of the abandoned properties from becoming meth labs, crack houses or interesting places for a rave?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , if they leave the whole town abandoned , what is going to keep all of the abandoned properties from becoming meth labs , crack houses or interesting places for a rave ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, if they leave the whole town abandoned, what is going to keep all of the abandoned properties from becoming meth labs, crack houses or interesting places for a rave?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928221</id>
	<title>Re:Funny how this always happens</title>
	<author>Ingva</author>
	<datestamp>1256893680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The clean up from Nuclear Reactors is actually the easy part.  Typical amount of radioactive waste per year would fit in the back of a pickup truck.  Almost all of it is being stored on site of the various power plants.  Where to put that waste where it will be safe for 10,000 years of so is the difficult problem.  In the end a coal plant puts out as much radioactive waste as a nuclear plant.  It just dilutes it and spews it into the air.  Nuclear is by far the least of all evils.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The clean up from Nuclear Reactors is actually the easy part .
Typical amount of radioactive waste per year would fit in the back of a pickup truck .
Almost all of it is being stored on site of the various power plants .
Where to put that waste where it will be safe for 10,000 years of so is the difficult problem .
In the end a coal plant puts out as much radioactive waste as a nuclear plant .
It just dilutes it and spews it into the air .
Nuclear is by far the least of all evils .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The clean up from Nuclear Reactors is actually the easy part.
Typical amount of radioactive waste per year would fit in the back of a pickup truck.
Almost all of it is being stored on site of the various power plants.
Where to put that waste where it will be safe for 10,000 years of so is the difficult problem.
In the end a coal plant puts out as much radioactive waste as a nuclear plant.
It just dilutes it and spews it into the air.
Nuclear is by far the least of all evils.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29929149</id>
	<title>Re:At least they...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256898480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, the first thing that came to my mind was the Simpsons, but not the movie.  I instead thought, "Trash of the Titans is actually happening."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , the first thing that came to my mind was the Simpsons , but not the movie .
I instead thought , " Trash of the Titans is actually happening .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, the first thing that came to my mind was the Simpsons, but not the movie.
I instead thought, "Trash of the Titans is actually happening.
"</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29927819</id>
	<title>Re:Let me get this right</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256935020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or better yet, make the mining company pay for it... or the state of Kansas.<br>Why must the the fed come to the rescue with my tax dollars?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or better yet , make the mining company pay for it... or the state of Kansas.Why must the the fed come to the rescue with my tax dollars ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or better yet, make the mining company pay for it... or the state of Kansas.Why must the the fed come to the rescue with my tax dollars?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928757</id>
	<title>Re:Funny how this always happens</title>
	<author>iamhigh</author>
	<datestamp>1256896440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Agreed.  I guess it's a good thing most of the tax income is from businesses and people with money (top 10\% pay 70\% of taxes).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Agreed .
I guess it 's a good thing most of the tax income is from businesses and people with money ( top 10 \ % pay 70 \ % of taxes ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agreed.
I guess it's a good thing most of the tax income is from businesses and people with money (top 10\% pay 70\% of taxes).</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29929951</id>
	<title>Re:sounds reasonable, but</title>
	<author>moortak</author>
	<datestamp>1256904180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>By that standard Cleveland, Baltimore and Detroit should all be bought up.  Lead poisoning comes in many shapes.  It must be nice to live somewhere small enough that the EPA gives a damn.</htmltext>
<tokenext>By that standard Cleveland , Baltimore and Detroit should all be bought up .
Lead poisoning comes in many shapes .
It must be nice to live somewhere small enough that the EPA gives a damn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By that standard Cleveland, Baltimore and Detroit should all be bought up.
Lead poisoning comes in many shapes.
It must be nice to live somewhere small enough that the EPA gives a damn.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29930887</id>
	<title>Ah, the action of a free market!</title>
	<author>EWAdams</author>
	<datestamp>1256910060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Mines come in when it's profitable, screw up the environment because nobody can stop them (that would be government regulation, which would be socialistical), and leave having raped the land of the only thing that was worth anything. The people left behind have no money to clean up the mess the mines made, and the mine companies are under no obligation to do so themselves.

Yet another example of why libertarianism is a pipe-dream utopia second only to Communism in its impracticality.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Mines come in when it 's profitable , screw up the environment because nobody can stop them ( that would be government regulation , which would be socialistical ) , and leave having raped the land of the only thing that was worth anything .
The people left behind have no money to clean up the mess the mines made , and the mine companies are under no obligation to do so themselves .
Yet another example of why libertarianism is a pipe-dream utopia second only to Communism in its impracticality .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mines come in when it's profitable, screw up the environment because nobody can stop them (that would be government regulation, which would be socialistical), and leave having raped the land of the only thing that was worth anything.
The people left behind have no money to clean up the mess the mines made, and the mine companies are under no obligation to do so themselves.
Yet another example of why libertarianism is a pipe-dream utopia second only to Communism in its impracticality.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29927679</id>
	<title>Let me get this right</title>
	<author>aaandre</author>
	<datestamp>1256934360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Corporations turn town into a toxic sludge dump.<br>Taxpayers pay for people to relocate.</p><p>=&gt; Free Money solves the pollution problem!</p><p>By converting the planet's natural resources into limitless virtual symbols for value, we are approaching a point when we'll have to eat, breathe, and drink money.</p><p>I think it may be time to reform money:  <a href="http://www.realitysandwich.com/money\_a\_new\_beginning" title="realitysandwich.com">http://www.realitysandwich.com/money\_a\_new\_beginning</a> [realitysandwich.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Corporations turn town into a toxic sludge dump.Taxpayers pay for people to relocate. = &gt; Free Money solves the pollution problem ! By converting the planet 's natural resources into limitless virtual symbols for value , we are approaching a point when we 'll have to eat , breathe , and drink money.I think it may be time to reform money : http : //www.realitysandwich.com/money \ _a \ _new \ _beginning [ realitysandwich.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Corporations turn town into a toxic sludge dump.Taxpayers pay for people to relocate.=&gt; Free Money solves the pollution problem!By converting the planet's natural resources into limitless virtual symbols for value, we are approaching a point when we'll have to eat, breathe, and drink money.I think it may be time to reform money:  http://www.realitysandwich.com/money\_a\_new\_beginning [realitysandwich.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29927655</id>
	<title>Is the g'ment paying pre-housing bust prices?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256934240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If they are, I think I have some old thermometers around here somewhere....ooops!  Dropped 'em!</htmltext>
<tokenext>If they are , I think I have some old thermometers around here somewhere....ooops !
Dropped 'em !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they are, I think I have some old thermometers around here somewhere....ooops!
Dropped 'em!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928537</id>
	<title>Socialism</title>
	<author>SteveHeadroom</author>
	<datestamp>1256895180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Allowing a government to buy a town is clearly unfair competition and socialism. Only private businesses should be allowed to buy towns.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Allowing a government to buy a town is clearly unfair competition and socialism .
Only private businesses should be allowed to buy towns .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Allowing a government to buy a town is clearly unfair competition and socialism.
Only private businesses should be allowed to buy towns.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928373</id>
	<title>Re:Funny how this always happens</title>
	<author>ArsonSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1256894460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seeing as these rich guys probably reside in the top 25\% wage earners, they are also paying more than 85\% of the tax burden.  So lucky it is the rich people paying to clean it up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seeing as these rich guys probably reside in the top 25 \ % wage earners , they are also paying more than 85 \ % of the tax burden .
So lucky it is the rich people paying to clean it up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seeing as these rich guys probably reside in the top 25\% wage earners, they are also paying more than 85\% of the tax burden.
So lucky it is the rich people paying to clean it up.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928761</id>
	<title>First Picher, then Treece</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256896440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;source=s\_q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=Treece+kansas&amp;sll=37.996163,-95.712891&amp;sspn=60.673537,107.138672&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;hq=&amp;hnear=Treece,+Cherokee,+Kansas&amp;ll=36.981781,-94.838877&amp;spn=0.063147,0.104628&amp;t=h&amp;z=14" title="google.com">Something tells me</a> [google.com] there's a nice investment opportunity in the Cardin, KS housing market...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Something tells me [ google.com ] there 's a nice investment opportunity in the Cardin , KS housing market.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Something tells me [google.com] there's a nice investment opportunity in the Cardin, KS housing market...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928075</id>
	<title>Better timeline.</title>
	<author>Eevee</author>
	<datestamp>1256936220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Corporations turn town into a toxic sludge dump.<br>
Taxpayers pay for people to relocate.</p></div></blockquote><p>
Corporations turn town into a toxic sludge dump.<br>
Corporations go out of business.<br>
People become more aware of the general problem of industrial pollution.<br>
Laws are passed to limit such behavior.<br>
People in the town get sick.<br>
After realizing that the horse has left the barn, taxpayers pay for people to relocate.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Corporations turn town into a toxic sludge dump .
Taxpayers pay for people to relocate .
Corporations turn town into a toxic sludge dump .
Corporations go out of business .
People become more aware of the general problem of industrial pollution .
Laws are passed to limit such behavior .
People in the town get sick .
After realizing that the horse has left the barn , taxpayers pay for people to relocate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Corporations turn town into a toxic sludge dump.
Taxpayers pay for people to relocate.
Corporations turn town into a toxic sludge dump.
Corporations go out of business.
People become more aware of the general problem of industrial pollution.
Laws are passed to limit such behavior.
People in the town get sick.
After realizing that the horse has left the barn, taxpayers pay for people to relocate.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29929483</id>
	<title>Nature will sort it out...</title>
	<author>fantomas</author>
	<datestamp>1256901120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nature will indeed sort it out, rain will wash the pollutants into your water courses, wind will blow dust off the waste piles and spread them across the wider area. Eventually the polluting agents will even out across the whole of your country.</p><p>It'll all work out. Might be a bit of a mess for the neighbours for a couple of hundred years though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nature will indeed sort it out , rain will wash the pollutants into your water courses , wind will blow dust off the waste piles and spread them across the wider area .
Eventually the polluting agents will even out across the whole of your country.It 'll all work out .
Might be a bit of a mess for the neighbours for a couple of hundred years though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nature will indeed sort it out, rain will wash the pollutants into your water courses, wind will blow dust off the waste piles and spread them across the wider area.
Eventually the polluting agents will even out across the whole of your country.It'll all work out.
Might be a bit of a mess for the neighbours for a couple of hundred years though.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29930311</id>
	<title>Re:I hate government spending but...</title>
	<author>fermion</author>
	<datestamp>1256906340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In most cases I do not see a problem with spending small amounts of money to solve significant problems.  But I do see a problem when people, who don't want to help other people, come begging to suck at the public teat.
<p>
Let's look at this. Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., who evidently has been at the forefront of this wealth transfer from the taxpayers to these welfare recipiants, aparently sees no problem with giving them $30,000 in free government money. However, if a bill is introudced to help the entire country with a bit of money, like the stimulus money, every GOP member thinks it is the end of the world.  Helping a small special interest, hey we have to do it right away.  Helping the whole country, who cares! Let them eat cake.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In most cases I do not see a problem with spending small amounts of money to solve significant problems .
But I do see a problem when people , who do n't want to help other people , come begging to suck at the public teat .
Let 's look at this .
Sen. Pat Roberts , R-Kan. , who evidently has been at the forefront of this wealth transfer from the taxpayers to these welfare recipiants , aparently sees no problem with giving them $ 30,000 in free government money .
However , if a bill is introudced to help the entire country with a bit of money , like the stimulus money , every GOP member thinks it is the end of the world .
Helping a small special interest , hey we have to do it right away .
Helping the whole country , who cares !
Let them eat cake .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In most cases I do not see a problem with spending small amounts of money to solve significant problems.
But I do see a problem when people, who don't want to help other people, come begging to suck at the public teat.
Let's look at this.
Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., who evidently has been at the forefront of this wealth transfer from the taxpayers to these welfare recipiants, aparently sees no problem with giving them $30,000 in free government money.
However, if a bill is introudced to help the entire country with a bit of money, like the stimulus money, every GOP member thinks it is the end of the world.
Helping a small special interest, hey we have to do it right away.
Helping the whole country, who cares!
Let them eat cake.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29927629</id>
	<title>Re:EPA plans to relocate town to New Jersey</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256934120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>All the more reason for them to stay put.  Anywhere is cleaner than NJ.</htmltext>
<tokenext>All the more reason for them to stay put .
Anywhere is cleaner than NJ .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All the more reason for them to stay put.
Anywhere is cleaner than NJ.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29929147</id>
	<title>Re:OK, wait. That's all it costs!??!</title>
	<author>Valdrax</author>
	<datestamp>1256898480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You mean I can buy an entire town for $3,000,000? That's not a lot of money for a bunch of buildings and some land.</p></div><p>No kidding.  It's about $30K per person to go find somewhere else to live.  It's condemnation money.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>So what do you do with a polluted site?</p></div><p>One this big?  Generally nothing.  You put up a fence and don't let people live there.  It's not worth the money to fix compared to the cost of just developing unspoiled lands.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean I can buy an entire town for $ 3,000,000 ?
That 's not a lot of money for a bunch of buildings and some land.No kidding .
It 's about $ 30K per person to go find somewhere else to live .
It 's condemnation money.So what do you do with a polluted site ? One this big ?
Generally nothing .
You put up a fence and do n't let people live there .
It 's not worth the money to fix compared to the cost of just developing unspoiled lands .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean I can buy an entire town for $3,000,000?
That's not a lot of money for a bunch of buildings and some land.No kidding.
It's about $30K per person to go find somewhere else to live.
It's condemnation money.So what do you do with a polluted site?One this big?
Generally nothing.
You put up a fence and don't let people live there.
It's not worth the money to fix compared to the cost of just developing unspoiled lands.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29927899</id>
	<title>Have you looked at what it takes to make...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256935320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... hybrid vehicles and solar panels?  I hope you are opposed to those, too!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... hybrid vehicles and solar panels ?
I hope you are opposed to those , too !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... hybrid vehicles and solar panels?
I hope you are opposed to those, too!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928241</id>
	<title>Require mining companies to post a bond</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256893800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Prior to starting the mining, the company should have to commit<br>to paying, say, 25\% of top-line revenue into a fund to be held in escrow<br>by the government.<br>If the company cleans up adequately, and operates cleanly all along,<br>then at termination of mining operations, they get the funds back with interest.<br>If the government has to clean up, it uses the fund. There should be a penalty<br>catch, something like: If the government has to spend more than 25\% of the<br>fund cleaning up, then the government fines the company the rest, and<br>such money is made available to an R&amp;D pool that companies and universities<br>can access only for purposes of R&amp;D into more environmentally responsible<br>methods and technologies for extracting resources.</p><p>This is probably an appropriate place to state that my signature line is ironic,<br>being a listing of two oxymorons.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Prior to starting the mining , the company should have to committo paying , say , 25 \ % of top-line revenue into a fund to be held in escrowby the government.If the company cleans up adequately , and operates cleanly all along,then at termination of mining operations , they get the funds back with interest.If the government has to clean up , it uses the fund .
There should be a penaltycatch , something like : If the government has to spend more than 25 \ % of thefund cleaning up , then the government fines the company the rest , andsuch money is made available to an R&amp;D pool that companies and universitiescan access only for purposes of R&amp;D into more environmentally responsiblemethods and technologies for extracting resources.This is probably an appropriate place to state that my signature line is ironic,being a listing of two oxymorons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Prior to starting the mining, the company should have to committo paying, say, 25\% of top-line revenue into a fund to be held in escrowby the government.If the company cleans up adequately, and operates cleanly all along,then at termination of mining operations, they get the funds back with interest.If the government has to clean up, it uses the fund.
There should be a penaltycatch, something like: If the government has to spend more than 25\% of thefund cleaning up, then the government fines the company the rest, andsuch money is made available to an R&amp;D pool that companies and universitiescan access only for purposes of R&amp;D into more environmentally responsiblemethods and technologies for extracting resources.This is probably an appropriate place to state that my signature line is ironic,being a listing of two oxymorons.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29927605</id>
	<title>The up side</title>
	<author>jbeaupre</author>
	<datestamp>1256934060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>AT least the kids are protected from cosmic rays <a href="http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/44139/184/" title="tgdaily.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/44139/184/</a> [tgdaily.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>AT least the kids are protected from cosmic rays http : //www.tgdaily.com/content/view/44139/184/ [ tgdaily.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AT least the kids are protected from cosmic rays http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/44139/184/ [tgdaily.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29935789</id>
	<title>Ron Paul</title>
	<author>BitHive</author>
	<datestamp>1257015780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Once again an inept bureaucracy of the federal government tries to solve problems with bigger, more expensive problems.  We don't need an EPA, the constitution gives us property rights.  If pollution encroaches on your private property you don't need to appeal to Big Environmentalism, just take the polluter to court!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Once again an inept bureaucracy of the federal government tries to solve problems with bigger , more expensive problems .
We do n't need an EPA , the constitution gives us property rights .
If pollution encroaches on your private property you do n't need to appeal to Big Environmentalism , just take the polluter to court !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Once again an inept bureaucracy of the federal government tries to solve problems with bigger, more expensive problems.
We don't need an EPA, the constitution gives us property rights.
If pollution encroaches on your private property you don't need to appeal to Big Environmentalism, just take the polluter to court!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928195</id>
	<title>Re:I hate government spending but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256893560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With only 100 residents left, you could probably do it for $3m. The remaining abandoned property will be snatched up, through eminent domain or something similar (there's bound to be a statute for this sort of thing...</p><p>Hedley Lamarr: Wait a minute... there might be legal precedent. Of course! Land-snatching!<br>[grabs a law book]<br>Hedley Lamarr: Land, land... "Land: see Snatch."<br>[flips back several pages]<br>Hedley Lamarr: Ah, Haley vs. United States. Haley: 7, United States: nothing. You see, it can be done!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With only 100 residents left , you could probably do it for $ 3m .
The remaining abandoned property will be snatched up , through eminent domain or something similar ( there 's bound to be a statute for this sort of thing...Hedley Lamarr : Wait a minute... there might be legal precedent .
Of course !
Land-snatching ! [ grabs a law book ] Hedley Lamarr : Land , land... " Land : see Snatch .
" [ flips back several pages ] Hedley Lamarr : Ah , Haley vs. United States .
Haley : 7 , United States : nothing .
You see , it can be done !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With only 100 residents left, you could probably do it for $3m.
The remaining abandoned property will be snatched up, through eminent domain or something similar (there's bound to be a statute for this sort of thing...Hedley Lamarr: Wait a minute... there might be legal precedent.
Of course!
Land-snatching![grabs a law book]Hedley Lamarr: Land, land... "Land: see Snatch.
"[flips back several pages]Hedley Lamarr: Ah, Haley vs. United States.
Haley: 7, United States: nothing.
You see, it can be done!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928239</id>
	<title>hanging chat</title>
	<author>Moderatbastard</author>
	<datestamp>1256893800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hanging chat?  I demand a recount!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hanging chat ?
I demand a recount !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hanging chat?
I demand a recount!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29927759</id>
	<title>Re:Let me get this right</title>
	<author>digsbo</author>
	<datestamp>1256934720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Exactly.  Wouldn't it be sensible for future municipalities to look at this and think twice before allowing an outside corporation to extract profit and turn their town toxic?  That would help manage the environmental impact.  Oh, wait, it would also require people to think things through.  Unrealistic.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly .
Would n't it be sensible for future municipalities to look at this and think twice before allowing an outside corporation to extract profit and turn their town toxic ?
That would help manage the environmental impact .
Oh , wait , it would also require people to think things through .
Unrealistic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly.
Wouldn't it be sensible for future municipalities to look at this and think twice before allowing an outside corporation to extract profit and turn their town toxic?
That would help manage the environmental impact.
Oh, wait, it would also require people to think things through.
Unrealistic.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928097</id>
	<title>Communists!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256936340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just apply the free-market solution to this bunch of pathetic pinko trash:  fuck 'em.  You want mommy government to buy out the town?  No, let it fetch the free market price of $0.01 an acre (if you find a sucker willing to pay that much).  This crying about lead poisoning is communist bullshit anyway.  If it weren't for the commie EPA they wouldn't know it was bad at all and the town would be rolling in the riches of the free market.  They'd also pull themselves up by the bootstraps and not complain about the commie fire department from the socialist town next door not being there anymore.  If you can't afford a fire department in your town, tough shit, you fucking commie pinko.  They're all probably dependent on pinko commie socialist Welfare,  socialist pinko commie Farm Subsidies, socialist commie pinko Social Security, pinko socialist commie Medicaid, and commie socialist pinko Medicare.  Probably send their kids to commie pinko socialist public schools.  Don't even get me started on the socialist commie leftist fascist public police force, the goddamn unamerican pinko jackbooted islamic thugs.  If it weren't for the fact that the mines are depleted, we should declare war on them.<br>
<br>
This post brought to you by the Cato Institute.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just apply the free-market solution to this bunch of pathetic pinko trash : fuck 'em .
You want mommy government to buy out the town ?
No , let it fetch the free market price of $ 0.01 an acre ( if you find a sucker willing to pay that much ) .
This crying about lead poisoning is communist bullshit anyway .
If it were n't for the commie EPA they would n't know it was bad at all and the town would be rolling in the riches of the free market .
They 'd also pull themselves up by the bootstraps and not complain about the commie fire department from the socialist town next door not being there anymore .
If you ca n't afford a fire department in your town , tough shit , you fucking commie pinko .
They 're all probably dependent on pinko commie socialist Welfare , socialist pinko commie Farm Subsidies , socialist commie pinko Social Security , pinko socialist commie Medicaid , and commie socialist pinko Medicare .
Probably send their kids to commie pinko socialist public schools .
Do n't even get me started on the socialist commie leftist fascist public police force , the goddamn unamerican pinko jackbooted islamic thugs .
If it were n't for the fact that the mines are depleted , we should declare war on them .
This post brought to you by the Cato Institute .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just apply the free-market solution to this bunch of pathetic pinko trash:  fuck 'em.
You want mommy government to buy out the town?
No, let it fetch the free market price of $0.01 an acre (if you find a sucker willing to pay that much).
This crying about lead poisoning is communist bullshit anyway.
If it weren't for the commie EPA they wouldn't know it was bad at all and the town would be rolling in the riches of the free market.
They'd also pull themselves up by the bootstraps and not complain about the commie fire department from the socialist town next door not being there anymore.
If you can't afford a fire department in your town, tough shit, you fucking commie pinko.
They're all probably dependent on pinko commie socialist Welfare,  socialist pinko commie Farm Subsidies, socialist commie pinko Social Security, pinko socialist commie Medicaid, and commie socialist pinko Medicare.
Probably send their kids to commie pinko socialist public schools.
Don't even get me started on the socialist commie leftist fascist public police force, the goddamn unamerican pinko jackbooted islamic thugs.
If it weren't for the fact that the mines are depleted, we should declare war on them.
This post brought to you by the Cato Institute.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29929215</id>
	<title>Re:I hate government spending but...</title>
	<author>Cryogenic Specter</author>
	<datestamp>1256898960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>look at it on google maps, street view.  It is mostly old trailer homes.  I think that 3 mil is probably way too much.</htmltext>
<tokenext>look at it on google maps , street view .
It is mostly old trailer homes .
I think that 3 mil is probably way too much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>look at it on google maps, street view.
It is mostly old trailer homes.
I think that 3 mil is probably way too much.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29931905</id>
	<title>nothing new</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256920260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Centralia, Pennsylvania- town on fire - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centralia,\_Pennsylvania <br>http://www.offroaders.com/album/centralia/centralia.htm<br>http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/2196</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Centralia , Pennsylvania- town on fire - http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centralia , \ _Pennsylvania http : //www.offroaders.com/album/centralia/centralia.htmhttp : //www.roadsideamerica.com/story/2196</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Centralia, Pennsylvania- town on fire - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centralia,\_Pennsylvania http://www.offroaders.com/album/centralia/centralia.htmhttp://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/2196</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29927583</id>
	<title>EPA plans to relocate town to New Jersey</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256933940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where it will become a nature reserve.</p><p>FHA is doing the financing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where it will become a nature reserve.FHA is doing the financing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where it will become a nature reserve.FHA is doing the financing.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928017</id>
	<title>I hate government spending but...</title>
	<author>jhfry</author>
	<datestamp>1256935980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Doesn't $3 Million seem a bit cheap.  Essentially, they could clean it up for billions, but instead they are just gonna move the population away for a measly $3M and hope that everyone just forgets about the place.</p><p>I don't think that this "solution" will work in all cases, but in this case I am glad they decided to spend $3M rather than cleaning up the mess.  If left alone for a couple of centuries, I'd wager that nature will take care of much of the mess.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does n't $ 3 Million seem a bit cheap .
Essentially , they could clean it up for billions , but instead they are just gon na move the population away for a measly $ 3M and hope that everyone just forgets about the place.I do n't think that this " solution " will work in all cases , but in this case I am glad they decided to spend $ 3M rather than cleaning up the mess .
If left alone for a couple of centuries , I 'd wager that nature will take care of much of the mess .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doesn't $3 Million seem a bit cheap.
Essentially, they could clean it up for billions, but instead they are just gonna move the population away for a measly $3M and hope that everyone just forgets about the place.I don't think that this "solution" will work in all cases, but in this case I am glad they decided to spend $3M rather than cleaning up the mess.
If left alone for a couple of centuries, I'd wager that nature will take care of much of the mess.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928209</id>
	<title>Re:Funny how this always happens</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256893620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The rich owners have been dead and gone for over 50 years. The mining that caused all this lead rich waste was done just after the turn of the century. There is a ton of wasteful spending in our gov't, but what lies around the cities of Picher and Treece is an environmental catastrophe of the worst kind that needs to be cleaned up. If you want to see for yourself, look it up on Google Earth. These cities are dwarfed by dunes of this mining waste (chat).  Similar Superfund work in smaller projects are being done around the Joplin area, just 15 miles away. This area is also riddled with mining shafts, which cave in periodically.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The rich owners have been dead and gone for over 50 years .
The mining that caused all this lead rich waste was done just after the turn of the century .
There is a ton of wasteful spending in our gov't , but what lies around the cities of Picher and Treece is an environmental catastrophe of the worst kind that needs to be cleaned up .
If you want to see for yourself , look it up on Google Earth .
These cities are dwarfed by dunes of this mining waste ( chat ) .
Similar Superfund work in smaller projects are being done around the Joplin area , just 15 miles away .
This area is also riddled with mining shafts , which cave in periodically .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The rich owners have been dead and gone for over 50 years.
The mining that caused all this lead rich waste was done just after the turn of the century.
There is a ton of wasteful spending in our gov't, but what lies around the cities of Picher and Treece is an environmental catastrophe of the worst kind that needs to be cleaned up.
If you want to see for yourself, look it up on Google Earth.
These cities are dwarfed by dunes of this mining waste (chat).
Similar Superfund work in smaller projects are being done around the Joplin area, just 15 miles away.
This area is also riddled with mining shafts, which cave in periodically.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29930627</id>
	<title>Re:Funny how this always happens</title>
	<author>drizek</author>
	<datestamp>1256908140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Exactly, this is corporate welfare masquerading as social justice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly , this is corporate welfare masquerading as social justice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly, this is corporate welfare masquerading as social justice.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29931293</id>
	<title>Oblig. Simpsons</title>
	<author>AVryhof</author>
	<datestamp>1256914080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Coming up on your left...Nothing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Coming up on your left...Nothing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Coming up on your left...Nothing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29930099</id>
	<title>Re:Let me get this right</title>
	<author>cdrguru</author>
	<datestamp>1256905140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What you are saying is pretty much that communities should disallow businesses to operate that might cause pollution.  Because no matter how much a business says they aren't going to, once they do in the stealth of night, it is done.  And then someone has to clean it up.</p><p>So the obvious solution for a community - if they had control - is to disallow any business that has the potential to cause any sort of pollution of anything.  So you block the dry cleaner because of PERC, the auto shop because of waste oil, refrigerant, spilled gasoline, etc.  Then you need to block the small metal shop because of dangerous organic solvents and metal chips.  Eventually, you have a perfectly safe community (like California is trying to achieve) without any commercial activity at all.</p><p>They figured this out in about 1950 and today communities have no control.  It is decided at the state and federal level, far far away from anyone that might be impacted.</p><p>This is also why the manufacturing has moved out of the US and either across the border to Juarez or across the ocean to China.  No matter what companies tried to do, they were getting blocked by lawsuits and stupid regulations.  A stupid regulation is California's Prop 65 - all it is going to do is drive businesses across the state line.  It will not force car dealers to eliminate the lead in the batteries or the oil from the cars.  But by all means, keep passing these regulations and drive all those industries over somewhere else.  We can all work for the Government.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What you are saying is pretty much that communities should disallow businesses to operate that might cause pollution .
Because no matter how much a business says they are n't going to , once they do in the stealth of night , it is done .
And then someone has to clean it up.So the obvious solution for a community - if they had control - is to disallow any business that has the potential to cause any sort of pollution of anything .
So you block the dry cleaner because of PERC , the auto shop because of waste oil , refrigerant , spilled gasoline , etc .
Then you need to block the small metal shop because of dangerous organic solvents and metal chips .
Eventually , you have a perfectly safe community ( like California is trying to achieve ) without any commercial activity at all.They figured this out in about 1950 and today communities have no control .
It is decided at the state and federal level , far far away from anyone that might be impacted.This is also why the manufacturing has moved out of the US and either across the border to Juarez or across the ocean to China .
No matter what companies tried to do , they were getting blocked by lawsuits and stupid regulations .
A stupid regulation is California 's Prop 65 - all it is going to do is drive businesses across the state line .
It will not force car dealers to eliminate the lead in the batteries or the oil from the cars .
But by all means , keep passing these regulations and drive all those industries over somewhere else .
We can all work for the Government .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What you are saying is pretty much that communities should disallow businesses to operate that might cause pollution.
Because no matter how much a business says they aren't going to, once they do in the stealth of night, it is done.
And then someone has to clean it up.So the obvious solution for a community - if they had control - is to disallow any business that has the potential to cause any sort of pollution of anything.
So you block the dry cleaner because of PERC, the auto shop because of waste oil, refrigerant, spilled gasoline, etc.
Then you need to block the small metal shop because of dangerous organic solvents and metal chips.
Eventually, you have a perfectly safe community (like California is trying to achieve) without any commercial activity at all.They figured this out in about 1950 and today communities have no control.
It is decided at the state and federal level, far far away from anyone that might be impacted.This is also why the manufacturing has moved out of the US and either across the border to Juarez or across the ocean to China.
No matter what companies tried to do, they were getting blocked by lawsuits and stupid regulations.
A stupid regulation is California's Prop 65 - all it is going to do is drive businesses across the state line.
It will not force car dealers to eliminate the lead in the batteries or the oil from the cars.
But by all means, keep passing these regulations and drive all those industries over somewhere else.
We can all work for the Government.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29929641</id>
	<title>Re:Funny how this always happens</title>
	<author>timmarhy</author>
	<datestamp>1256902140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>thats rubbish. "rich" people spend like crazy and pay tonnes of income tax. you WANT more rich people, they are a good thing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>thats rubbish .
" rich " people spend like crazy and pay tonnes of income tax .
you WANT more rich people , they are a good thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>thats rubbish.
"rich" people spend like crazy and pay tonnes of income tax.
you WANT more rich people, they are a good thing.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928507</id>
	<title>That's a reasonably nice ending</title>
	<author>smellsofbikes</author>
	<datestamp>1256895000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>The little town I grew up in is pretty much all a Superfund site from old mine tailings piles and uncapped vertical mine shafts, but unlike this situation, where the EPA has to fork out $3M for a problem that companies created and then ran away from, in Leadville the reclamation efforts have gone past $400 million and despite levels of lead, arsenic, and selenium in the ground water that are so high the upper Arkansas river sometimes has all the fish die(*), people in Leadville want to get the EPA out at any cost and live in their polluted town.  When I look at the pictures of Treese, it looks very much like Leadville used to, where the highways and streets wiggled between tailings piles 20-50 feet high, and a short walk out of town led to streams the color of Mountain Dew or <a href="http://www.cozine.com/archive/cc2005/01390151.html" title="cozine.com">orange juice</a> [cozine.com] (scroll down to the second-to-last picture).<p>
So, I think this sounds like a remarkably civilized end to a nasty story, and hope they can get the people out.  I've worked with people who had chronic lead and mercury poisoning from old mine contamination and some of them are really seriously screwed up.
</p><p>
(*) There was an old mine called the Yak Tunnel, dug not for minerals but to drain all the other mines, at a much lower level than they were, so it served as the sewage drain for dozens of huge mines.  Whenever one of the old abandoned mines would have a collapse, a huge surge of contaminated water would dump out the Yak and right into the upper Arkansas, killing everything downstream for dozens of miles.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The little town I grew up in is pretty much all a Superfund site from old mine tailings piles and uncapped vertical mine shafts , but unlike this situation , where the EPA has to fork out $ 3M for a problem that companies created and then ran away from , in Leadville the reclamation efforts have gone past $ 400 million and despite levels of lead , arsenic , and selenium in the ground water that are so high the upper Arkansas river sometimes has all the fish die ( * ) , people in Leadville want to get the EPA out at any cost and live in their polluted town .
When I look at the pictures of Treese , it looks very much like Leadville used to , where the highways and streets wiggled between tailings piles 20-50 feet high , and a short walk out of town led to streams the color of Mountain Dew or orange juice [ cozine.com ] ( scroll down to the second-to-last picture ) .
So , I think this sounds like a remarkably civilized end to a nasty story , and hope they can get the people out .
I 've worked with people who had chronic lead and mercury poisoning from old mine contamination and some of them are really seriously screwed up .
( * ) There was an old mine called the Yak Tunnel , dug not for minerals but to drain all the other mines , at a much lower level than they were , so it served as the sewage drain for dozens of huge mines .
Whenever one of the old abandoned mines would have a collapse , a huge surge of contaminated water would dump out the Yak and right into the upper Arkansas , killing everything downstream for dozens of miles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The little town I grew up in is pretty much all a Superfund site from old mine tailings piles and uncapped vertical mine shafts, but unlike this situation, where the EPA has to fork out $3M for a problem that companies created and then ran away from, in Leadville the reclamation efforts have gone past $400 million and despite levels of lead, arsenic, and selenium in the ground water that are so high the upper Arkansas river sometimes has all the fish die(*), people in Leadville want to get the EPA out at any cost and live in their polluted town.
When I look at the pictures of Treese, it looks very much like Leadville used to, where the highways and streets wiggled between tailings piles 20-50 feet high, and a short walk out of town led to streams the color of Mountain Dew or orange juice [cozine.com] (scroll down to the second-to-last picture).
So, I think this sounds like a remarkably civilized end to a nasty story, and hope they can get the people out.
I've worked with people who had chronic lead and mercury poisoning from old mine contamination and some of them are really seriously screwed up.
(*) There was an old mine called the Yak Tunnel, dug not for minerals but to drain all the other mines, at a much lower level than they were, so it served as the sewage drain for dozens of huge mines.
Whenever one of the old abandoned mines would have a collapse, a huge surge of contaminated water would dump out the Yak and right into the upper Arkansas, killing everything downstream for dozens of miles.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928651</id>
	<title>Re:Photos of the pollution</title>
	<author>tibman</author>
	<datestamp>1256895840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>hah, i like the sign that just says "US Property. <b>NO</b>"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>hah , i like the sign that just says " US Property .
NO "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>hah, i like the sign that just says "US Property.
NO"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928213</id>
	<title>Simpsons Did It!</title>
	<author>DustoneGT</author>
	<datestamp>1256893620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>[Native American #2 sees a small piece of trash and begins to cry.]<br>
Native American-Indian #1: Do yourself a favour. Don't turn around.<br>
[camera pans across to show the old Spingfield as a huge land of rubbish and waste]<br>
Native American-Indian #2: [off-screen] AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!<br>
Native American-Indian #1: [off-screen] I told you not to turn around. <br>
<br>
The entire town gets relocated five miles away.</htmltext>
<tokenext>[ Native American # 2 sees a small piece of trash and begins to cry .
] Native American-Indian # 1 : Do yourself a favour .
Do n't turn around .
[ camera pans across to show the old Spingfield as a huge land of rubbish and waste ] Native American-Indian # 2 : [ off-screen ] AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH !
Native American-Indian # 1 : [ off-screen ] I told you not to turn around .
The entire town gets relocated five miles away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[Native American #2 sees a small piece of trash and begins to cry.
]
Native American-Indian #1: Do yourself a favour.
Don't turn around.
[camera pans across to show the old Spingfield as a huge land of rubbish and waste]
Native American-Indian #2: [off-screen] AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!
Native American-Indian #1: [off-screen] I told you not to turn around.
The entire town gets relocated five miles away.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_1830255.29928587</id>
	<title>Re:Funny how this always happens</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256895480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Congress shall make no ex post facto laws.</p><p>What they did wasn't illegal at the time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Congress shall make no ex post facto laws.What they did was n't illegal at the time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Congress shall make no ex post facto laws.What they did wasn't illegal at the time.</sentencetext>
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