<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_30_022242</id>
	<title><em>D&amp;D</em> On Google Wave</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1256932380000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Jon Stokes at the Opposable Thumbs blog relates his experience <a href="http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/10/google-wave-we-came-we-saw-we-played-dd.ars">using Google Wave as a platform for <em>Dungeons and Dragons</em> </a>  &mdash; the true test of success for any new communications technology. A post at Spirits of Eden <a href="http://spiritsofeden.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/playing-online-google-wave/">lists some of Wave's strengths for gaming</a>. Quoting:
<i>"The few games I'm following typically have at least three waves: one for recruiting and general discussion, another for out-of-character interactions ('table talk'), and the main wave where the actual in-character gaming takes place. Individual players are also encouraged to start waves between themselves for any conversations that the GM shouldn't be privy to. Character sheets can be posted in a private wave between a player and the GM, and character biographies can go anywhere where the other players can get access to them. The waves are persistent, accessible to anyone who's added to them, and include the ability to track changes, so they ultimately work quite well as a medium for the non-tactical parts of an RPG. A newcomer can jump right in and get up-to-speed on past interactions, and a GM or industrious player can constantly maintain the official record of play by going back and fixing errors, formatting text, adding and deleting material, and reorganizing posts."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Jon Stokes at the Opposable Thumbs blog relates his experience using Google Wave as a platform for Dungeons and Dragons    the true test of success for any new communications technology .
A post at Spirits of Eden lists some of Wave 's strengths for gaming .
Quoting : " The few games I 'm following typically have at least three waves : one for recruiting and general discussion , another for out-of-character interactions ( 'table talk ' ) , and the main wave where the actual in-character gaming takes place .
Individual players are also encouraged to start waves between themselves for any conversations that the GM should n't be privy to .
Character sheets can be posted in a private wave between a player and the GM , and character biographies can go anywhere where the other players can get access to them .
The waves are persistent , accessible to anyone who 's added to them , and include the ability to track changes , so they ultimately work quite well as a medium for the non-tactical parts of an RPG .
A newcomer can jump right in and get up-to-speed on past interactions , and a GM or industrious player can constantly maintain the official record of play by going back and fixing errors , formatting text , adding and deleting material , and reorganizing posts .
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<sentencetext>Jon Stokes at the Opposable Thumbs blog relates his experience using Google Wave as a platform for Dungeons and Dragons   — the true test of success for any new communications technology.
A post at Spirits of Eden lists some of Wave's strengths for gaming.
Quoting:
"The few games I'm following typically have at least three waves: one for recruiting and general discussion, another for out-of-character interactions ('table talk'), and the main wave where the actual in-character gaming takes place.
Individual players are also encouraged to start waves between themselves for any conversations that the GM shouldn't be privy to.
Character sheets can be posted in a private wave between a player and the GM, and character biographies can go anywhere where the other players can get access to them.
The waves are persistent, accessible to anyone who's added to them, and include the ability to track changes, so they ultimately work quite well as a medium for the non-tactical parts of an RPG.
A newcomer can jump right in and get up-to-speed on past interactions, and a GM or industrious player can constantly maintain the official record of play by going back and fixing errors, formatting text, adding and deleting material, and reorganizing posts.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921575</id>
	<title>Re:Great!</title>
	<author>thenextstevejobs</author>
	<datestamp>1256896080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A large rat glowers at you dubiously</htmltext>
<tokenext>A large rat glowers at you dubiously</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A large rat glowers at you dubiously</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29922859</id>
	<title>Wave's gadget for...</title>
	<author>SebaSOFT</author>
	<datestamp>1256912700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Character sheets, GO</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Character sheets , GO</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Character sheets, GO</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29926131</id>
	<title>Bot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256927520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've created a bot for wave to roll dices (obirpg@appspot.com). I intend to create a rpg helper, but at this very time I dont have enough time to work on that<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....</p><p>In my opinion wave would be a really good platform for online RPG, especially with proper gadgets / bots (of course, if it stop crashing all the time). It would allow players and DMs to keep track easily of what happened and maps / cards would be shared easily among them<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've created a bot for wave to roll dices ( obirpg @ appspot.com ) .
I intend to create a rpg helper , but at this very time I dont have enough time to work on that ....In my opinion wave would be a really good platform for online RPG , especially with proper gadgets / bots ( of course , if it stop crashing all the time ) .
It would allow players and DMs to keep track easily of what happened and maps / cards would be shared easily among them ... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've created a bot for wave to roll dices (obirpg@appspot.com).
I intend to create a rpg helper, but at this very time I dont have enough time to work on that ....In my opinion wave would be a really good platform for online RPG, especially with proper gadgets / bots (of course, if it stop crashing all the time).
It would allow players and DMs to keep track easily of what happened and maps / cards would be shared easily among them ....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921761</id>
	<title>Bard Bot</title>
	<author>joelpt</author>
	<datestamp>1256900040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've written a simple text-adventure Wave bot that lets you play zcode games -- including some of the old Infocom classics (Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Leather Goddesses of Phobos) along with a few choice picks from <a href="http://ifarchive.org./" title="ifarchive.org." rel="nofollow">http://ifarchive.org./</a> [ifarchive.org.]  (More games soon.)

Just add bardbot@appspot.com to a wave to play.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've written a simple text-adventure Wave bot that lets you play zcode games -- including some of the old Infocom classics ( Hitchhiker 's Guide to the Galaxy , Leather Goddesses of Phobos ) along with a few choice picks from http : //ifarchive.org./ [ ifarchive.org .
] ( More games soon .
) Just add bardbot @ appspot.com to a wave to play .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've written a simple text-adventure Wave bot that lets you play zcode games -- including some of the old Infocom classics (Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Leather Goddesses of Phobos) along with a few choice picks from http://ifarchive.org./ [ifarchive.org.
]  (More games soon.
)

Just add bardbot@appspot.com to a wave to play.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29922555</id>
	<title>Would love to play D&amp;D again...</title>
	<author>rAiNsT0rm</author>
	<datestamp>1256910660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who'd have thought that with all the technology and MMO-type games there still isn't a way to play D&amp;D online with a group? As someone who enjoyed D&amp;D back in the day and now a mature gamer with a life and family, I would still love to play but don't have time for bi/tri-weekly meetings in someones basement for hours on end. A night or two a week, online, for a few hours and I'd be a happy nerd.</p><p>(or if anyone knows of a solid group with a more relaxed campaign in the Pittsburgh, PA area, I'm down)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who 'd have thought that with all the technology and MMO-type games there still is n't a way to play D&amp;D online with a group ?
As someone who enjoyed D&amp;D back in the day and now a mature gamer with a life and family , I would still love to play but do n't have time for bi/tri-weekly meetings in someones basement for hours on end .
A night or two a week , online , for a few hours and I 'd be a happy nerd .
( or if anyone knows of a solid group with a more relaxed campaign in the Pittsburgh , PA area , I 'm down )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who'd have thought that with all the technology and MMO-type games there still isn't a way to play D&amp;D online with a group?
As someone who enjoyed D&amp;D back in the day and now a mature gamer with a life and family, I would still love to play but don't have time for bi/tri-weekly meetings in someones basement for hours on end.
A night or two a week, online, for a few hours and I'd be a happy nerd.
(or if anyone knows of a solid group with a more relaxed campaign in the Pittsburgh, PA area, I'm down)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29923007</id>
	<title>Re:In my humble opinion.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256913660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's spelled "should", big guy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's spelled " should " , big guy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's spelled "should", big guy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29926429</id>
	<title>Re:More like forums, really</title>
	<author>digitalPhant0m</author>
	<datestamp>1256928780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I have been designing a program to play DnD over the internet lately. One with battlemaps, chats, dicerollers, stuff like that.</p></div><p>Looks like we're re-inventing MUDs now.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have been designing a program to play DnD over the internet lately .
One with battlemaps , chats , dicerollers , stuff like that.Looks like we 're re-inventing MUDs now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have been designing a program to play DnD over the internet lately.
One with battlemaps, chats, dicerollers, stuff like that.Looks like we're re-inventing MUDs now.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921473</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921495</id>
	<title>Re:Kinda sounds like</title>
	<author>GryMor</author>
	<datestamp>1256894940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Persistent wikified irc with integrated permissions management?</p><p>That, right there, is a killer app.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Persistent wikified irc with integrated permissions management ? That , right there , is a killer app .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Persistent wikified irc with integrated permissions management?That, right there, is a killer app.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921409</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29922517</id>
	<title>Re:Privacy and the real-time web</title>
	<author>petrus4</author>
	<datestamp>1256910360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Now along comes wave. Google Wave is basically email on steroids, with a "wall / real time web" capability thrown in. You can be totally private or you can be totally public or any combo in between. Nice. And oh yes you also get media richness.</p></div><p>1.  XML-based protocol?  Check.<br>2.  Obfuscated?  Check.<br>3.  Needlessly complex?  Check.<br>4.  Proprietary/commercially based?  Check.  (The better to "de-commoditise protocols," my dear)</p><p>5.  Replaces a perfectly good, <a href="http://www.irc.org/" title="irc.org" rel="nofollow">pre-existing protocol</a> [irc.org], when there's absolutely no sane reason (other than the aforementioned commercialism, of course) to do so?  Check.</p><p>6.  (The icing on the cake; this one ALWAYS shows up)  Uses the brainless, meaningless, totally subjective, rage-inducing, corporate-suit-spawned "richness," argument in order to sell it to people who don't have the necessary intelligence to be able to see through this crap?  Check.</p><p>Go ahead, call me a troll, mod me down, accuse me of beating up Santa Claus at Christmas, etc.  I'm saying stuff you won't want to hear.  If there's one thing that is a truly unforgiveable sin around here, it's voicing unpopular opinions.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now along comes wave .
Google Wave is basically email on steroids , with a " wall / real time web " capability thrown in .
You can be totally private or you can be totally public or any combo in between .
Nice. And oh yes you also get media richness.1 .
XML-based protocol ?
Check.2. Obfuscated ?
Check.3. Needlessly complex ?
Check.4. Proprietary/commercially based ?
Check. ( The better to " de-commoditise protocols , " my dear ) 5 .
Replaces a perfectly good , pre-existing protocol [ irc.org ] , when there 's absolutely no sane reason ( other than the aforementioned commercialism , of course ) to do so ?
Check.6. ( The icing on the cake ; this one ALWAYS shows up ) Uses the brainless , meaningless , totally subjective , rage-inducing , corporate-suit-spawned " richness , " argument in order to sell it to people who do n't have the necessary intelligence to be able to see through this crap ?
Check.Go ahead , call me a troll , mod me down , accuse me of beating up Santa Claus at Christmas , etc .
I 'm saying stuff you wo n't want to hear .
If there 's one thing that is a truly unforgiveable sin around here , it 's voicing unpopular opinions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now along comes wave.
Google Wave is basically email on steroids, with a "wall / real time web" capability thrown in.
You can be totally private or you can be totally public or any combo in between.
Nice. And oh yes you also get media richness.1.
XML-based protocol?
Check.2.  Obfuscated?
Check.3.  Needlessly complex?
Check.4.  Proprietary/commercially based?
Check.  (The better to "de-commoditise protocols," my dear)5.
Replaces a perfectly good, pre-existing protocol [irc.org], when there's absolutely no sane reason (other than the aforementioned commercialism, of course) to do so?
Check.6.  (The icing on the cake; this one ALWAYS shows up)  Uses the brainless, meaningless, totally subjective, rage-inducing, corporate-suit-spawned "richness," argument in order to sell it to people who don't have the necessary intelligence to be able to see through this crap?
Check.Go ahead, call me a troll, mod me down, accuse me of beating up Santa Claus at Christmas, etc.
I'm saying stuff you won't want to hear.
If there's one thing that is a truly unforgiveable sin around here, it's voicing unpopular opinions.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29926933</id>
	<title>What if...</title>
	<author>pinkushun</author>
	<datestamp>1256930940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tarantino used Wave to collaborate in writing <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcxF9oz9Cu0&amp;feature=player\_embedded" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">Pulp Fiction</a> [youtube.com]?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tarantino used Wave to collaborate in writing Pulp Fiction [ youtube.com ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tarantino used Wave to collaborate in writing Pulp Fiction [youtube.com]?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29922321</id>
	<title>Re:Not going to catch on</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256908200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's gonna be lightning fast as soon as they turn the damn logging off.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's gon na be lightning fast as soon as they turn the damn logging off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's gonna be lightning fast as soon as they turn the damn logging off.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921659</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29926705</id>
	<title>Re:In my humble opinion.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256929920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Addressing your points in the order you posted them:</p><p>1) I don't know what setting you are talking about my profile settings are all on a separate google profile page.<br>2) It's slow because it's in active development with google changing things all the time, they probably don't have as many servers dedicated to it as they really want or need yet because people are supposed to understand that things may still be clunky in the preview. I do agree that you should be able to set custom update settings and my understanding is that they are in the works but that it's easiest to default to real time and scale it back later<br>3) I agree that google should clue people in to things like public@ and with:public searches, and all the keyboard shortcuts instead of you having to search around but THIS IS A PREVIEW I'm sure once it goes public there will be lots of nice how to posts and instruction videos.</p><p>The wave creator is the first user in the wave, I thought this was obvious. The first line of a wave, in bold, is the subject line. If you want to know dates I think playback should show it.</p><p>You can download waves as web-archives you might be able to then print that to a pdf. give them some time, I don't think wave to pdf is high priority, you might be able to make a bot to do it if you actually cared.</p><p>ACLs are coming, I know it's a free for all right now but ACLs are coming. I think control over who gets added should come with the ACLs but even so you should not add anyone you don't trust to keep info private, JUST LIKE EMAIL OR ANYTHING ELSE.</p><p>How does a bot swf steal passwords, I need to see a proof of concept before I take this seriously.</p><p>If you don't like the PREVIEW release then GTFO. Give your account to someone who will use it because there are lots of people who would kill for a wave account right now.</p><p>It's an open standard, you can write whatever client you want to interface with wave.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Addressing your points in the order you posted them : 1 ) I do n't know what setting you are talking about my profile settings are all on a separate google profile page.2 ) It 's slow because it 's in active development with google changing things all the time , they probably do n't have as many servers dedicated to it as they really want or need yet because people are supposed to understand that things may still be clunky in the preview .
I do agree that you should be able to set custom update settings and my understanding is that they are in the works but that it 's easiest to default to real time and scale it back later3 ) I agree that google should clue people in to things like public @ and with : public searches , and all the keyboard shortcuts instead of you having to search around but THIS IS A PREVIEW I 'm sure once it goes public there will be lots of nice how to posts and instruction videos.The wave creator is the first user in the wave , I thought this was obvious .
The first line of a wave , in bold , is the subject line .
If you want to know dates I think playback should show it.You can download waves as web-archives you might be able to then print that to a pdf .
give them some time , I do n't think wave to pdf is high priority , you might be able to make a bot to do it if you actually cared.ACLs are coming , I know it 's a free for all right now but ACLs are coming .
I think control over who gets added should come with the ACLs but even so you should not add anyone you do n't trust to keep info private , JUST LIKE EMAIL OR ANYTHING ELSE.How does a bot swf steal passwords , I need to see a proof of concept before I take this seriously.If you do n't like the PREVIEW release then GTFO .
Give your account to someone who will use it because there are lots of people who would kill for a wave account right now.It 's an open standard , you can write whatever client you want to interface with wave .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Addressing your points in the order you posted them:1) I don't know what setting you are talking about my profile settings are all on a separate google profile page.2) It's slow because it's in active development with google changing things all the time, they probably don't have as many servers dedicated to it as they really want or need yet because people are supposed to understand that things may still be clunky in the preview.
I do agree that you should be able to set custom update settings and my understanding is that they are in the works but that it's easiest to default to real time and scale it back later3) I agree that google should clue people in to things like public@ and with:public searches, and all the keyboard shortcuts instead of you having to search around but THIS IS A PREVIEW I'm sure once it goes public there will be lots of nice how to posts and instruction videos.The wave creator is the first user in the wave, I thought this was obvious.
The first line of a wave, in bold, is the subject line.
If you want to know dates I think playback should show it.You can download waves as web-archives you might be able to then print that to a pdf.
give them some time, I don't think wave to pdf is high priority, you might be able to make a bot to do it if you actually cared.ACLs are coming, I know it's a free for all right now but ACLs are coming.
I think control over who gets added should come with the ACLs but even so you should not add anyone you don't trust to keep info private, JUST LIKE EMAIL OR ANYTHING ELSE.How does a bot swf steal passwords, I need to see a proof of concept before I take this seriously.If you don't like the PREVIEW release then GTFO.
Give your account to someone who will use it because there are lots of people who would kill for a wave account right now.It's an open standard, you can write whatever client you want to interface with wave.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29922857</id>
	<title>Diplomacy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256912640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think Wave might be ideal for playing Diplomacy. In Dip, you want to be having numerous conversations, some public, some private, in various combinations of players.</p><p>Even without a board widget or an automated adjudicator, it would be a great way for the designers to test out various approaches to Wave privacy (fork this wave privately; attach a confidential comment to this part of a wave; etc.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think Wave might be ideal for playing Diplomacy .
In Dip , you want to be having numerous conversations , some public , some private , in various combinations of players.Even without a board widget or an automated adjudicator , it would be a great way for the designers to test out various approaches to Wave privacy ( fork this wave privately ; attach a confidential comment to this part of a wave ; etc .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think Wave might be ideal for playing Diplomacy.
In Dip, you want to be having numerous conversations, some public, some private, in various combinations of players.Even without a board widget or an automated adjudicator, it would be a great way for the designers to test out various approaches to Wave privacy (fork this wave privately; attach a confidential comment to this part of a wave; etc.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921429</id>
	<title>Re:Kinda sounds like</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256894100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And IRC is just a fancy version of talk. Durrrrrrrr.......</htmltext>
<tokenext>And IRC is just a fancy version of talk .
Durrrrrrrr...... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And IRC is just a fancy version of talk.
Durrrrrrrr.......</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29953402</id>
	<title>Re:More like forums, really</title>
	<author>ShakaUVM</author>
	<datestamp>1257192660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I have been designing a program to play DnD over the internet lately. One with battlemaps, chats, dicerollers, stuff like that. I am aware of OpenRPG and similar products but I'm not completely happy with them (the UI, the functionality, a lot of things) so I've decided to write my own one. I think that writing a wave plugin for the missing stuff instead might be worth giving some thought.</p></div></blockquote><p>I like gametable myself (http://gametable.galactanet.com/), but I think there is a need for a better online tabletop RPG simulator.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have been designing a program to play DnD over the internet lately .
One with battlemaps , chats , dicerollers , stuff like that .
I am aware of OpenRPG and similar products but I 'm not completely happy with them ( the UI , the functionality , a lot of things ) so I 've decided to write my own one .
I think that writing a wave plugin for the missing stuff instead might be worth giving some thought.I like gametable myself ( http : //gametable.galactanet.com/ ) , but I think there is a need for a better online tabletop RPG simulator .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have been designing a program to play DnD over the internet lately.
One with battlemaps, chats, dicerollers, stuff like that.
I am aware of OpenRPG and similar products but I'm not completely happy with them (the UI, the functionality, a lot of things) so I've decided to write my own one.
I think that writing a wave plugin for the missing stuff instead might be worth giving some thought.I like gametable myself (http://gametable.galactanet.com/), but I think there is a need for a better online tabletop RPG simulator.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921473</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29923581</id>
	<title>Re:Kinda sounds like</title>
	<author>virtualflesh</author>
	<datestamp>1256916780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>IMO, technology isn't bad or good - it's common or cool. Technology that is common (i.e., uncool) loses it's appealing luster when everybody thinks it's cool and when the majority of them neither know why it's cool nor have interest in how it works. True coolness comes when something not previously possible becomes possible, when those using it know how it works and exploit it, and when those not using have no interest in how it works.</htmltext>
<tokenext>IMO , technology is n't bad or good - it 's common or cool .
Technology that is common ( i.e. , uncool ) loses it 's appealing luster when everybody thinks it 's cool and when the majority of them neither know why it 's cool nor have interest in how it works .
True coolness comes when something not previously possible becomes possible , when those using it know how it works and exploit it , and when those not using have no interest in how it works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IMO, technology isn't bad or good - it's common or cool.
Technology that is common (i.e., uncool) loses it's appealing luster when everybody thinks it's cool and when the majority of them neither know why it's cool nor have interest in how it works.
True coolness comes when something not previously possible becomes possible, when those using it know how it works and exploit it, and when those not using have no interest in how it works.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921449</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921559</id>
	<title>Re:Kinda sounds like</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256895780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Presentation is everything, these days. Being able to display your character sheets to everyone while you're on a more real-time version of IRC with group logging and archival is a big step forward.
<p>
Swap character sheets for "business plans," and you can see the potential, here.
</p><p>
There's also the convenience factor. It does everything for you. Unlike IRC, you can edit within the Wave itself. Logs don't have to be outputted to a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.txt file before you can edit them. You just do it right there.
</p><p>
What'll be interesting is if/when Skype can be added to it in a gadget. VoIP with audio/video chat, the ability to display documents to an entire group, and to collaboratively write something with real-time editing.
</p><p>
If you want to say it's just a repackaging of IRC and a Wiki, sure, go right ahead. It's just shaping up to be a very well done and potentially ubiquitous repackaging.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Presentation is everything , these days .
Being able to display your character sheets to everyone while you 're on a more real-time version of IRC with group logging and archival is a big step forward .
Swap character sheets for " business plans , " and you can see the potential , here .
There 's also the convenience factor .
It does everything for you .
Unlike IRC , you can edit within the Wave itself .
Logs do n't have to be outputted to a .txt file before you can edit them .
You just do it right there .
What 'll be interesting is if/when Skype can be added to it in a gadget .
VoIP with audio/video chat , the ability to display documents to an entire group , and to collaboratively write something with real-time editing .
If you want to say it 's just a repackaging of IRC and a Wiki , sure , go right ahead .
It 's just shaping up to be a very well done and potentially ubiquitous repackaging .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Presentation is everything, these days.
Being able to display your character sheets to everyone while you're on a more real-time version of IRC with group logging and archival is a big step forward.
Swap character sheets for "business plans," and you can see the potential, here.
There's also the convenience factor.
It does everything for you.
Unlike IRC, you can edit within the Wave itself.
Logs don't have to be outputted to a .txt file before you can edit them.
You just do it right there.
What'll be interesting is if/when Skype can be added to it in a gadget.
VoIP with audio/video chat, the ability to display documents to an entire group, and to collaboratively write something with real-time editing.
If you want to say it's just a repackaging of IRC and a Wiki, sure, go right ahead.
It's just shaping up to be a very well done and potentially ubiquitous repackaging.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921409</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921509</id>
	<title>Great!</title>
	<author>declain</author>
	<datestamp>1256895060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I put on my robe and wizard hat.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I put on my robe and wizard hat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I put on my robe and wizard hat.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29924351</id>
	<title>Re:Diplomacy</title>
	<author>Dr. Spork</author>
	<datestamp>1256920020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A very insightful comment! I think that would be awesome!</htmltext>
<tokenext>A very insightful comment !
I think that would be awesome !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A very insightful comment!
I think that would be awesome!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29922857</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29922575</id>
	<title>Re:Kinda sounds like</title>
	<author>DavidAlanChapman</author>
	<datestamp>1256910840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Isn't all new technology the hybridization and evolution of previous developments?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't all new technology the hybridization and evolution of previous developments ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't all new technology the hybridization and evolution of previous developments?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921561</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29925317</id>
	<title>Re:Not going to catch on</title>
	<author>Chyeld</author>
	<datestamp>1256923620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To me, the best part about Google's wave isn't that it's an omnibus tool that's being touted as the next revolution in communication, it's that it's an omnibus tool they've already released the specs and such for in a way that someone implementing it DOESN'T need to stick to Google's hosted service or even a web browser.</p><p>And as a result, if someone had the intent to, they could roll this into a dedicated RPG tool with a desktop client and the other bells and whistles.</p><p>What I see Google Wave to be is a demo for the product, just as I see Jabber.org as a demo for XMPP.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To me , the best part about Google 's wave is n't that it 's an omnibus tool that 's being touted as the next revolution in communication , it 's that it 's an omnibus tool they 've already released the specs and such for in a way that someone implementing it DOES N'T need to stick to Google 's hosted service or even a web browser.And as a result , if someone had the intent to , they could roll this into a dedicated RPG tool with a desktop client and the other bells and whistles.What I see Google Wave to be is a demo for the product , just as I see Jabber.org as a demo for XMPP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To me, the best part about Google's wave isn't that it's an omnibus tool that's being touted as the next revolution in communication, it's that it's an omnibus tool they've already released the specs and such for in a way that someone implementing it DOESN'T need to stick to Google's hosted service or even a web browser.And as a result, if someone had the intent to, they could roll this into a dedicated RPG tool with a desktop client and the other bells and whistles.What I see Google Wave to be is a demo for the product, just as I see Jabber.org as a demo for XMPP.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921659</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921601</id>
	<title>Re:Kinda sounds like</title>
	<author>Shikaku</author>
	<datestamp>1256896620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So it's really IRC++?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So it 's really IRC + + ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So it's really IRC++?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921409</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29923003</id>
	<title>Re:Privacy and the real-time web</title>
	<author>Zerth</author>
	<datestamp>1256913660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You do know that the wave protocol is open and designed to run on multiple servers, same as email/irc?  Apparently you are unaware that there already exist other non-google wave servers.</p><p>If you're not a troll, then you are just ignorant.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do know that the wave protocol is open and designed to run on multiple servers , same as email/irc ?
Apparently you are unaware that there already exist other non-google wave servers.If you 're not a troll , then you are just ignorant .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You do know that the wave protocol is open and designed to run on multiple servers, same as email/irc?
Apparently you are unaware that there already exist other non-google wave servers.If you're not a troll, then you are just ignorant.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29922517</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921683</id>
	<title>If the grues don't get you, the gazebos will!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256898000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Watch out for killer gazebos!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Watch out for killer gazebos !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Watch out for killer gazebos!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921509</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29931025</id>
	<title>Re:True Lies</title>
	<author>DynaSoar</author>
	<datestamp>1256911140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Aw, seems I rubbed someone the wrong way and they modded me down. What's the matter did I dis one of your fellow gamerboi's posts by replying with humor?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Aw , seems I rubbed someone the wrong way and they modded me down .
What 's the matter did I dis one of your fellow gamerboi 's posts by replying with humor ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Aw, seems I rubbed someone the wrong way and they modded me down.
What's the matter did I dis one of your fellow gamerboi's posts by replying with humor?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921595</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921561</id>
	<title>Re:Kinda sounds like</title>
	<author>Canazza</author>
	<datestamp>1256895840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>it's not really the development of a new technology, it's the hybridisation of everything that's come before - IRC, IM, Wiki's, Email - into one flexible platform. It's certainly an interesting idea, but what it needs is the ability to forcibly narrow down the parameters so you can *if you want* lock it into a pure Wiki, or IRC clone or whatever.</p><p>It might, however, be one of those kid in a candy shop style affairs where the kid can have as much candy as he wants, but doesn't know where to start, eats everything, pukes and makes a mess.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>it 's not really the development of a new technology , it 's the hybridisation of everything that 's come before - IRC , IM , Wiki 's , Email - into one flexible platform .
It 's certainly an interesting idea , but what it needs is the ability to forcibly narrow down the parameters so you can * if you want * lock it into a pure Wiki , or IRC clone or whatever.It might , however , be one of those kid in a candy shop style affairs where the kid can have as much candy as he wants , but does n't know where to start , eats everything , pukes and makes a mess .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it's not really the development of a new technology, it's the hybridisation of everything that's come before - IRC, IM, Wiki's, Email - into one flexible platform.
It's certainly an interesting idea, but what it needs is the ability to forcibly narrow down the parameters so you can *if you want* lock it into a pure Wiki, or IRC clone or whatever.It might, however, be one of those kid in a candy shop style affairs where the kid can have as much candy as he wants, but doesn't know where to start, eats everything, pukes and makes a mess.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921449</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921501</id>
	<title>Re:Kinda sounds like</title>
	<author>nifboy</author>
	<datestamp>1256895000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, yeah. That's the point. It's basically IRC with a centralized location for storing pictures, char sheets, combat maps, etc.

I mean, sure, you could set up your own wiki and your own IRC channel and have them both open at the same time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , yeah .
That 's the point .
It 's basically IRC with a centralized location for storing pictures , char sheets , combat maps , etc .
I mean , sure , you could set up your own wiki and your own IRC channel and have them both open at the same time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, yeah.
That's the point.
It's basically IRC with a centralized location for storing pictures, char sheets, combat maps, etc.
I mean, sure, you could set up your own wiki and your own IRC channel and have them both open at the same time.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921409</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921755</id>
	<title>Legal Eagles</title>
	<author>ObsessiveMathsFreak</author>
	<datestamp>1256899980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Did somebody say "Lawsuit"?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did somebody say " Lawsuit " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did somebody say "Lawsuit"?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29923607</id>
	<title>Re:Kinda sounds like</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256916900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I still don't get it.  Cell phones are just regular phone but without the wires.</p><p>I still don't get it.  The web is just like gopher/ftp but you with pictures.</p><p>I still don't get it.  The iPhone is just a bastard child of a cell phone and a pda.</p><p>What you don't get is that almost all new products that really take off are amalgamations of pre-existing technologies.  Yeah, Google Wave is just a really neat way to put together IRC, Wiki, and Email.  Its impact will be huge.  A couple of years from now, even your mom will be talking about sending you a Wave.  Numerous imitators and Wave server implementations will be around.  Waves and wave-like concepts will be omnipresent.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I still do n't get it .
Cell phones are just regular phone but without the wires.I still do n't get it .
The web is just like gopher/ftp but you with pictures.I still do n't get it .
The iPhone is just a bastard child of a cell phone and a pda.What you do n't get is that almost all new products that really take off are amalgamations of pre-existing technologies .
Yeah , Google Wave is just a really neat way to put together IRC , Wiki , and Email .
Its impact will be huge .
A couple of years from now , even your mom will be talking about sending you a Wave .
Numerous imitators and Wave server implementations will be around .
Waves and wave-like concepts will be omnipresent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still don't get it.
Cell phones are just regular phone but without the wires.I still don't get it.
The web is just like gopher/ftp but you with pictures.I still don't get it.
The iPhone is just a bastard child of a cell phone and a pda.What you don't get is that almost all new products that really take off are amalgamations of pre-existing technologies.
Yeah, Google Wave is just a really neat way to put together IRC, Wiki, and Email.
Its impact will be huge.
A couple of years from now, even your mom will be talking about sending you a Wave.
Numerous imitators and Wave server implementations will be around.
Waves and wave-like concepts will be omnipresent.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921409</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29923269</id>
	<title>Who's with me?</title>
	<author>pinkushun</author>
	<datestamp>1256915220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We don't care if it's reworking old technologies, we have to evolve with the technology! And Google seems to love taking up that role, great job and welcome to the future!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We do n't care if it 's reworking old technologies , we have to evolve with the technology !
And Google seems to love taking up that role , great job and welcome to the future !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We don't care if it's reworking old technologies, we have to evolve with the technology!
And Google seems to love taking up that role, great job and welcome to the future!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921595</id>
	<title>True Lies</title>
	<author>DynaSoar</author>
	<datestamp>1256896440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"a platform for Dungeons and Dragons  &mdash; the true test of success for any new communications technology"</p><p>"Can you roll 8 or better on 2d6 so you can hear me now? Good."</p><p>d00d! grab your manuals and head for Hat Creek, CA. The Allen Telescope Array needs to be tested so it can tell when it's picking up alien transmissions. We're going to need to know whether to consider them monsters or non-player characters.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" a platform for Dungeons and Dragons    the true test of success for any new communications technology " " Can you roll 8 or better on 2d6 so you can hear me now ?
Good. " d00d ! grab your manuals and head for Hat Creek , CA .
The Allen Telescope Array needs to be tested so it can tell when it 's picking up alien transmissions .
We 're going to need to know whether to consider them monsters or non-player characters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"a platform for Dungeons and Dragons  — the true test of success for any new communications technology""Can you roll 8 or better on 2d6 so you can hear me now?
Good."d00d! grab your manuals and head for Hat Creek, CA.
The Allen Telescope Array needs to be tested so it can tell when it's picking up alien transmissions.
We're going to need to know whether to consider them monsters or non-player characters.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921843</id>
	<title>Re:Kinda sounds like</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256901120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's cause your so l33t you still use pine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's cause your so l33t you still use pine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's cause your so l33t you still use pine.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921409</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29937635</id>
	<title>Re:Kinda sounds like</title>
	<author>badkarmadayaccount</author>
	<datestamp>1256989860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's easier to manage, I think.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's easier to manage , I think .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's easier to manage, I think.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921409</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29922573</id>
	<title>Re:Kinda sounds like</title>
	<author>Beale</author>
	<datestamp>1256910840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>... And then you *learn* and don't puke up the next time. Allowing users to lock modes would mean that a lot of people would never find out what's interesting and new about the system. You might end up with a horrible mess once, but then you can look at what you did wrong.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... And then you * learn * and do n't puke up the next time .
Allowing users to lock modes would mean that a lot of people would never find out what 's interesting and new about the system .
You might end up with a horrible mess once , but then you can look at what you did wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... And then you *learn* and don't puke up the next time.
Allowing users to lock modes would mean that a lot of people would never find out what's interesting and new about the system.
You might end up with a horrible mess once, but then you can look at what you did wrong.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921561</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921477</id>
	<title>Re:Kinda sounds like</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256894760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The hype works like this,<br>1. Replace IRC with IM(msn,yahoo etc.) in the user population which is more about one-to-one conversations and terrible at group conversations. These users are now completely unaware of IRC and are stuck with email for one-to-many communication.<br>2. Next you sell them various ways they can get back the one-to-many communication method(facebook,myspace,google wave)<br>3.???<br>4. PROFIT!</p><p>It's really that simple, everything old is new again...oh and now it's in your web browser so you can use those CPU cycles you're missing out on when your CPU would otherwise be sleeping.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The hype works like this,1 .
Replace IRC with IM ( msn,yahoo etc .
) in the user population which is more about one-to-one conversations and terrible at group conversations .
These users are now completely unaware of IRC and are stuck with email for one-to-many communication.2 .
Next you sell them various ways they can get back the one-to-many communication method ( facebook,myspace,google wave ) 3. ? ? ? 4 .
PROFIT ! It 's really that simple , everything old is new again...oh and now it 's in your web browser so you can use those CPU cycles you 're missing out on when your CPU would otherwise be sleeping .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The hype works like this,1.
Replace IRC with IM(msn,yahoo etc.
) in the user population which is more about one-to-one conversations and terrible at group conversations.
These users are now completely unaware of IRC and are stuck with email for one-to-many communication.2.
Next you sell them various ways they can get back the one-to-many communication method(facebook,myspace,google wave)3.???4.
PROFIT!It's really that simple, everything old is new again...oh and now it's in your web browser so you can use those CPU cycles you're missing out on when your CPU would otherwise be sleeping.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29922867</id>
	<title>Sooo...</title>
	<author>avg\_joe\_01</author>
	<datestamp>1256912760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>"Wave does have support for bots and interactive widgets, so it won't be long before RPG-specific examples of both start cropping up."</i> </p><p>We're headed back to MUD's?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Wave does have support for bots and interactive widgets , so it wo n't be long before RPG-specific examples of both start cropping up .
" We 're headed back to MUD 's ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> "Wave does have support for bots and interactive widgets, so it won't be long before RPG-specific examples of both start cropping up.
" We're headed back to MUD's?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921449</id>
	<title>Re:Kinda sounds like</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256894400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I'm sorry but I still dont get all the hype, to me it's just a bastard child of IRC and a Wiki.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>

Yes! That's exactly what it is.  You say that like this development of new technology is a bad thing.  Do you need to hand in your geek card?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sorry but I still dont get all the hype , to me it 's just a bastard child of IRC and a Wiki .
Yes ! That 's exactly what it is .
You say that like this development of new technology is a bad thing .
Do you need to hand in your geek card ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sorry but I still dont get all the hype, to me it's just a bastard child of IRC and a Wiki.
Yes! That's exactly what it is.
You say that like this development of new technology is a bad thing.
Do you need to hand in your geek card?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921409</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921659</id>
	<title>Not going to catch on</title>
	<author>thenextstevejobs</author>
	<datestamp>1256897460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Those of us with beta accounts are familiar with the fact that its slow, clumsy and unexciting.
</p><p>
Sort of sad how everyone is shitting themselves because they found ONE decent use for Wave. A dedicated program for D&amp;D, which dedicated players would rather use than a general tool shoehorned into D&amp;D and stuck in the damn browser, would be much better.
</p><p>
I used to like Google's products because they were simple and responsive. This is what I would expect out of a startup, not a company with resources and experience like Google.
</p><p>
They've probably already realized this is a failed experiment, and they'd be better off shoving it under the rug now than pushing forward as if this is the next Google Search or Mail.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Those of us with beta accounts are familiar with the fact that its slow , clumsy and unexciting .
Sort of sad how everyone is shitting themselves because they found ONE decent use for Wave .
A dedicated program for D&amp;D , which dedicated players would rather use than a general tool shoehorned into D&amp;D and stuck in the damn browser , would be much better .
I used to like Google 's products because they were simple and responsive .
This is what I would expect out of a startup , not a company with resources and experience like Google .
They 've probably already realized this is a failed experiment , and they 'd be better off shoving it under the rug now than pushing forward as if this is the next Google Search or Mail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Those of us with beta accounts are familiar with the fact that its slow, clumsy and unexciting.
Sort of sad how everyone is shitting themselves because they found ONE decent use for Wave.
A dedicated program for D&amp;D, which dedicated players would rather use than a general tool shoehorned into D&amp;D and stuck in the damn browser, would be much better.
I used to like Google's products because they were simple and responsive.
This is what I would expect out of a startup, not a company with resources and experience like Google.
They've probably already realized this is a failed experiment, and they'd be better off shoving it under the rug now than pushing forward as if this is the next Google Search or Mail.
</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29932663</id>
	<title>Re:Kinda sounds like</title>
	<author>eples</author>
	<datestamp>1257019620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I still don't get it. The internet is just a telegraph running at gigahertz speeds.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I still do n't get it .
The internet is just a telegraph running at gigahertz speeds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still don't get it.
The internet is just a telegraph running at gigahertz speeds.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29923607</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29930567</id>
	<title>Re:Kinda sounds like</title>
	<author>buchner.johannes</author>
	<datestamp>1256907660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, adding new communication means can disrupt existing ones. But nobody 'took away' IRC. It was just not accessible for new Internet users (and I don't mean that in a technical sense).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , adding new communication means can disrupt existing ones .
But nobody 'took away ' IRC .
It was just not accessible for new Internet users ( and I do n't mean that in a technical sense ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, adding new communication means can disrupt existing ones.
But nobody 'took away' IRC.
It was just not accessible for new Internet users (and I don't mean that in a technical sense).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921477</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921409</id>
	<title>Kinda sounds like</title>
	<author>OverlordQ</author>
	<datestamp>1256893620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>IRC (sans logging)</p><p>"The few games I'm following typically have at least three channels: one for recruiting and general discussion, another for out-of-character interactions ('table talk'), and the main channel where the actual in-character gaming takes place. Individual players are also encouraged to private message between themselves for any conversations that the GM shouldn't be privy to. Character sheets can be posted in a private message between a player and the GM, and character biographies can go anywhere where the other players can get access to them."</p><p>I'm sorry but I still dont get all the hype, to me it's just a bastard child of IRC and a Wiki.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IRC ( sans logging ) " The few games I 'm following typically have at least three channels : one for recruiting and general discussion , another for out-of-character interactions ( 'table talk ' ) , and the main channel where the actual in-character gaming takes place .
Individual players are also encouraged to private message between themselves for any conversations that the GM should n't be privy to .
Character sheets can be posted in a private message between a player and the GM , and character biographies can go anywhere where the other players can get access to them .
" I 'm sorry but I still dont get all the hype , to me it 's just a bastard child of IRC and a Wiki .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IRC (sans logging)"The few games I'm following typically have at least three channels: one for recruiting and general discussion, another for out-of-character interactions ('table talk'), and the main channel where the actual in-character gaming takes place.
Individual players are also encouraged to private message between themselves for any conversations that the GM shouldn't be privy to.
Character sheets can be posted in a private message between a player and the GM, and character biographies can go anywhere where the other players can get access to them.
"I'm sorry but I still dont get all the hype, to me it's just a bastard child of IRC and a Wiki.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921987</id>
	<title>Privacy and the real-time web</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256903220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Google Wave has one huge advantage IMO.
<br> <br>
Lots of us get along fine with email, for 1:1 and 1:n communication, mailing lists, the works. So OK email misses the "wall" or "real time web" effect were everybody can see what everyone else is posting. But email works.
<br>
And the <b>really big deal about email</b> is the standards - I can use outlook yesterday, gmail today, and yahoo mail tomorrow. I can move my stuff among vendors and keep my stuff from years back. Because everyone must stick to standards.
<br> <br>
Trouble is there is an insidious conspiracy to make email uncool. Its led by the hordes of Facebook-ers and lately Tweet-ers. Like, I mean, do you really want to spend your life tweet-ing your latest embarrasing whatever to the world at large? But lets face it - the pressure is on bigtime. If you're not there you don't exist. Talk about peer pressure - the most obvious success of the social realtime web is the use of peer pressure to force everyone on board.:-(
<br> <br>
Now along comes wave. <b>Google Wave is basically email on steroids</b>, with a "wall / real time web" capability thrown in. You can be totally private or you can be totally public or any combo in between. <b>Nice</b>. And oh yes you also get media richness.
<br>
And the Facebook-ers and Tweet-ers can't claim its uncool; actually you can one-up 'em - they're old hat.
<br> <br>
Finally. Privacy is back (at least when you want it).
<br>
Now they just need to reintroduce <b>standards</b>. Is anyone listening?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google Wave has one huge advantage IMO .
Lots of us get along fine with email , for 1 : 1 and 1 : n communication , mailing lists , the works .
So OK email misses the " wall " or " real time web " effect were everybody can see what everyone else is posting .
But email works .
And the really big deal about email is the standards - I can use outlook yesterday , gmail today , and yahoo mail tomorrow .
I can move my stuff among vendors and keep my stuff from years back .
Because everyone must stick to standards .
Trouble is there is an insidious conspiracy to make email uncool .
Its led by the hordes of Facebook-ers and lately Tweet-ers .
Like , I mean , do you really want to spend your life tweet-ing your latest embarrasing whatever to the world at large ?
But lets face it - the pressure is on bigtime .
If you 're not there you do n't exist .
Talk about peer pressure - the most obvious success of the social realtime web is the use of peer pressure to force everyone on board .
: - ( Now along comes wave .
Google Wave is basically email on steroids , with a " wall / real time web " capability thrown in .
You can be totally private or you can be totally public or any combo in between .
Nice. And oh yes you also get media richness .
And the Facebook-ers and Tweet-ers ca n't claim its uncool ; actually you can one-up 'em - they 're old hat .
Finally. Privacy is back ( at least when you want it ) .
Now they just need to reintroduce standards .
Is anyone listening ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google Wave has one huge advantage IMO.
Lots of us get along fine with email, for 1:1 and 1:n communication, mailing lists, the works.
So OK email misses the "wall" or "real time web" effect were everybody can see what everyone else is posting.
But email works.
And the really big deal about email is the standards - I can use outlook yesterday, gmail today, and yahoo mail tomorrow.
I can move my stuff among vendors and keep my stuff from years back.
Because everyone must stick to standards.
Trouble is there is an insidious conspiracy to make email uncool.
Its led by the hordes of Facebook-ers and lately Tweet-ers.
Like, I mean, do you really want to spend your life tweet-ing your latest embarrasing whatever to the world at large?
But lets face it - the pressure is on bigtime.
If you're not there you don't exist.
Talk about peer pressure - the most obvious success of the social realtime web is the use of peer pressure to force everyone on board.
:-(
 
Now along comes wave.
Google Wave is basically email on steroids, with a "wall / real time web" capability thrown in.
You can be totally private or you can be totally public or any combo in between.
Nice. And oh yes you also get media richness.
And the Facebook-ers and Tweet-ers can't claim its uncool; actually you can one-up 'em - they're old hat.
Finally. Privacy is back (at least when you want it).
Now they just need to reintroduce standards.
Is anyone listening?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29924221</id>
	<title>Re:Colossal Cave Adventure</title>
	<author>illumin8</author>
	<datestamp>1256919540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You know what would be awesome?  Using Wave for multiplayer, real-time Nethack...  I pray to god someone will start that project.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You know what would be awesome ?
Using Wave for multiplayer , real-time Nethack... I pray to god someone will start that project .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know what would be awesome?
Using Wave for multiplayer, real-time Nethack...  I pray to god someone will start that project.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921689</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29928863</id>
	<title>Re:Kinda sounds like</title>
	<author>FleaPlus</author>
	<datestamp>1256896920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>think Google Wave is a great platform but adds nothing for roleplaying. It even has an unwanted feature : logs accessible to newcomers. I used to game through IRC, creating a channel for each room and a general discussion channel. Players going from room to romm to meet people or act separately. It was crucial that when arriving in a room, players did not know what happened before as the game (Amber DRPG) focuses a lot on PvP conspiracies.</p></div><p>Remember that although the initial Wave servers are operated by Google, their eventual plan is to release the code as open source and encourage others to run their own Wave servers. I'm suspect that eventually people will modify the code or create plugins so they can run their own role-playing oriented servers with the sort of feature set you describe.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>think Google Wave is a great platform but adds nothing for roleplaying .
It even has an unwanted feature : logs accessible to newcomers .
I used to game through IRC , creating a channel for each room and a general discussion channel .
Players going from room to romm to meet people or act separately .
It was crucial that when arriving in a room , players did not know what happened before as the game ( Amber DRPG ) focuses a lot on PvP conspiracies.Remember that although the initial Wave servers are operated by Google , their eventual plan is to release the code as open source and encourage others to run their own Wave servers .
I 'm suspect that eventually people will modify the code or create plugins so they can run their own role-playing oriented servers with the sort of feature set you describe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>think Google Wave is a great platform but adds nothing for roleplaying.
It even has an unwanted feature : logs accessible to newcomers.
I used to game through IRC, creating a channel for each room and a general discussion channel.
Players going from room to romm to meet people or act separately.
It was crucial that when arriving in a room, players did not know what happened before as the game (Amber DRPG) focuses a lot on PvP conspiracies.Remember that although the initial Wave servers are operated by Google, their eventual plan is to release the code as open source and encourage others to run their own Wave servers.
I'm suspect that eventually people will modify the code or create plugins so they can run their own role-playing oriented servers with the sort of feature set you describe.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29922709</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29922753</id>
	<title>Re:In my humble opinion.</title>
	<author>renoX</author>
	<datestamp>1256911920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;what If I say something sensitive, and some guy invited the wrong person?</p><p>Even if you had control on Wave itself, what could prevent the same guy taking screenshots and putting them on the web?<br>That said having control on the one who can reply to a wave is a good idea, to prevent trolls.</p><p>&gt;Bots sould have a special way to be identified from humans,</p><p>It's probably a good default but those who want 'anonymous bots' will find a way to make them (not too hard: script the client) so I don't think it's a big issue.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; what If I say something sensitive , and some guy invited the wrong person ? Even if you had control on Wave itself , what could prevent the same guy taking screenshots and putting them on the web ? That said having control on the one who can reply to a wave is a good idea , to prevent trolls. &gt; Bots sould have a special way to be identified from humans,It 's probably a good default but those who want 'anonymous bots ' will find a way to make them ( not too hard : script the client ) so I do n't think it 's a big issue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;what If I say something sensitive, and some guy invited the wrong person?Even if you had control on Wave itself, what could prevent the same guy taking screenshots and putting them on the web?That said having control on the one who can reply to a wave is a good idea, to prevent trolls.&gt;Bots sould have a special way to be identified from humans,It's probably a good default but those who want 'anonymous bots' will find a way to make them (not too hard: script the client) so I don't think it's a big issue.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921921</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29923069</id>
	<title>Re:If the grues don't get you, the gazebos will!</title>
	<author>Proteus Child</author>
	<datestamp>1256914140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"How does Forces-3/Prime-2 strike you?"<br>
"I hope it doesn't!"</htmltext>
<tokenext>" How does Forces-3/Prime-2 strike you ?
" " I hope it does n't !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"How does Forces-3/Prime-2 strike you?
"
"I hope it doesn't!
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921683</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29922267</id>
	<title>Re:Not going to catch on</title>
	<author>D Ninja</author>
	<datestamp>1256907300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Those of us with beta accounts are familiar with the fact that its slow, clumsy and unexciting.</p></div><p>Well, it's an alpha (preview, in Google terms) account first off.</p><p>Second, I do agree that it feels slow and a bit clumsy.  Of course, I'm willing to forgive that because it's alpha.  I realize not everybody will be.</p><p>As for its uses, however, well, I don't want to speak to that until more people join it.  Right now, it's kind of pointless just to chat back and forth between two people.  However, I can see huge advantages in project planning and management, developer discussion, etc.  Nothing is worse than having to wade through conversations in e-mails that are scattered across multiple threads and I can't figure out what the heck is going on.  And that's just one use that I can think of.  I know there are plenty more (especially as you start bringing in gadgets).</p><p>Yeah, Wave was sold pretty well, but realize that not that many people are using it yet.  It still has a long way to go before it is considered "complete" by anybody's standards, much less Google's.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Those of us with beta accounts are familiar with the fact that its slow , clumsy and unexciting.Well , it 's an alpha ( preview , in Google terms ) account first off.Second , I do agree that it feels slow and a bit clumsy .
Of course , I 'm willing to forgive that because it 's alpha .
I realize not everybody will be.As for its uses , however , well , I do n't want to speak to that until more people join it .
Right now , it 's kind of pointless just to chat back and forth between two people .
However , I can see huge advantages in project planning and management , developer discussion , etc .
Nothing is worse than having to wade through conversations in e-mails that are scattered across multiple threads and I ca n't figure out what the heck is going on .
And that 's just one use that I can think of .
I know there are plenty more ( especially as you start bringing in gadgets ) .Yeah , Wave was sold pretty well , but realize that not that many people are using it yet .
It still has a long way to go before it is considered " complete " by anybody 's standards , much less Google 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Those of us with beta accounts are familiar with the fact that its slow, clumsy and unexciting.Well, it's an alpha (preview, in Google terms) account first off.Second, I do agree that it feels slow and a bit clumsy.
Of course, I'm willing to forgive that because it's alpha.
I realize not everybody will be.As for its uses, however, well, I don't want to speak to that until more people join it.
Right now, it's kind of pointless just to chat back and forth between two people.
However, I can see huge advantages in project planning and management, developer discussion, etc.
Nothing is worse than having to wade through conversations in e-mails that are scattered across multiple threads and I can't figure out what the heck is going on.
And that's just one use that I can think of.
I know there are plenty more (especially as you start bringing in gadgets).Yeah, Wave was sold pretty well, but realize that not that many people are using it yet.
It still has a long way to go before it is considered "complete" by anybody's standards, much less Google's.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921659</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29922709</id>
	<title>Re:Kinda sounds like</title>
	<author>Yvanhoe</author>
	<datestamp>1256911740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think Google Wave is a great platform but adds nothing for roleplaying. It even has an unwanted feature : logs accessible to newcomers. I used to game through IRC, creating a channel for each room and a general discussion channel. Players going from room to romm to meet people or act separately. It was crucial that when arriving in a room, players did not know what happened before as the game (Amber DRPG) focuses a lot on PvP conspiracies.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think Google Wave is a great platform but adds nothing for roleplaying .
It even has an unwanted feature : logs accessible to newcomers .
I used to game through IRC , creating a channel for each room and a general discussion channel .
Players going from room to romm to meet people or act separately .
It was crucial that when arriving in a room , players did not know what happened before as the game ( Amber DRPG ) focuses a lot on PvP conspiracies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think Google Wave is a great platform but adds nothing for roleplaying.
It even has an unwanted feature : logs accessible to newcomers.
I used to game through IRC, creating a channel for each room and a general discussion channel.
Players going from room to romm to meet people or act separately.
It was crucial that when arriving in a room, players did not know what happened before as the game (Amber DRPG) focuses a lot on PvP conspiracies.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921561</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29932601</id>
	<title>Re:Privacy and the real-time web</title>
	<author>mahadiga</author>
	<datestamp>1256931720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Real-time != Asynchronous</htmltext>
<tokenext>Real-time ! = Asynchronous</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Real-time != Asynchronous</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921987</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29922427</id>
	<title>Is it 8-bit?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256909400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>DM: Why are you casting Magic Missile? There's nothing to attack here.<br>Golstaff: I...I'm attacking the darkness!</p><p>[...]<br>Golstaff: Hello.<br>Elf: Hello.<br>Golstaff: I am Golstaff, Sorcerer of Light.<br>Elf: Then how come you had to cast Magic Missile?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>DM : Why are you casting Magic Missile ?
There 's nothing to attack here.Golstaff : I...I 'm attacking the darkness ! [ .. .
] Golstaff : Hello.Elf : Hello.Golstaff : I am Golstaff , Sorcerer of Light.Elf : Then how come you had to cast Magic Missile ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>DM: Why are you casting Magic Missile?
There's nothing to attack here.Golstaff: I...I'm attacking the darkness![...
]Golstaff: Hello.Elf: Hello.Golstaff: I am Golstaff, Sorcerer of Light.Elf: Then how come you had to cast Magic Missile?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29923869</id>
	<title>Re:Privacy and the real-time web</title>
	<author>pwfffff</author>
	<datestamp>1256917980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. Don't be fucking stupid.<br>2. Obfuscated? Don't. Be. Fucking. Stupid. <a href="http://www.waveprotocol.org/" title="waveprotocol.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.waveprotocol.org/</a> [waveprotocol.org]<br>3. If you're afraid of complex things, you really shouldn't be on the internet. I imagine you'd be happy living in a tent on the side of the mountain, but us societal folk like our technology.<br>4. In what way is this proprietary? You can make your own server/client RIGHT NOW. The ENTIRE SPEC is online. Even their implementation is OPEN SOURCE. DON'T BE FUCKING STUPID.</p><p>5. "The waves are persistent, accessible to anyone who's added to them, and include the ability to track changes, so they ultimately work quite well as a medium for the non-tactical parts of an RPG. A newcomer can jump right in and get up-to-speed on past interactions, and a GM or industrious player can constantly maintain the official record of play by going back and fixing errors, formatting text, adding and deleting material, and reorganizing posts." IDK what IRC client YOU have, but please link me to it so I can take part in these awesome benefits! It can also do video/voice chat, right?</p><p>6. Another prejudice! Wooo! Some people would be ashamed to let the world know that they think that one, single word typed by one, single marketing droid determines the overall quality of the finished product... but not you! Fuck in-depth analysis! All you need is ONE WORD!</p><p>I know you're so freakishly averse to change that you cry every time the sun comes up, but maybe you should try actually thinking about things with an open mind, or perhaps seeking education about things before making blanket statements about them and showing just how oblivious you are to reality.</p><p>I really, really hope I was trolled, because knowing I wasted a bit of my time makes me feel MUCH better than knowing that someone as bitter and backwards as you is allowed to roam the internet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
Do n't be fucking stupid.2 .
Obfuscated ? Do n't .
Be. Fucking .
Stupid. http : //www.waveprotocol.org/ [ waveprotocol.org ] 3 .
If you 're afraid of complex things , you really should n't be on the internet .
I imagine you 'd be happy living in a tent on the side of the mountain , but us societal folk like our technology.4 .
In what way is this proprietary ?
You can make your own server/client RIGHT NOW .
The ENTIRE SPEC is online .
Even their implementation is OPEN SOURCE .
DO N'T BE FUCKING STUPID.5 .
" The waves are persistent , accessible to anyone who 's added to them , and include the ability to track changes , so they ultimately work quite well as a medium for the non-tactical parts of an RPG .
A newcomer can jump right in and get up-to-speed on past interactions , and a GM or industrious player can constantly maintain the official record of play by going back and fixing errors , formatting text , adding and deleting material , and reorganizing posts .
" IDK what IRC client YOU have , but please link me to it so I can take part in these awesome benefits !
It can also do video/voice chat , right ? 6 .
Another prejudice !
Wooo ! Some people would be ashamed to let the world know that they think that one , single word typed by one , single marketing droid determines the overall quality of the finished product... but not you !
Fuck in-depth analysis !
All you need is ONE WORD ! I know you 're so freakishly averse to change that you cry every time the sun comes up , but maybe you should try actually thinking about things with an open mind , or perhaps seeking education about things before making blanket statements about them and showing just how oblivious you are to reality.I really , really hope I was trolled , because knowing I wasted a bit of my time makes me feel MUCH better than knowing that someone as bitter and backwards as you is allowed to roam the internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Don't be fucking stupid.2.
Obfuscated? Don't.
Be. Fucking.
Stupid. http://www.waveprotocol.org/ [waveprotocol.org]3.
If you're afraid of complex things, you really shouldn't be on the internet.
I imagine you'd be happy living in a tent on the side of the mountain, but us societal folk like our technology.4.
In what way is this proprietary?
You can make your own server/client RIGHT NOW.
The ENTIRE SPEC is online.
Even their implementation is OPEN SOURCE.
DON'T BE FUCKING STUPID.5.
"The waves are persistent, accessible to anyone who's added to them, and include the ability to track changes, so they ultimately work quite well as a medium for the non-tactical parts of an RPG.
A newcomer can jump right in and get up-to-speed on past interactions, and a GM or industrious player can constantly maintain the official record of play by going back and fixing errors, formatting text, adding and deleting material, and reorganizing posts.
" IDK what IRC client YOU have, but please link me to it so I can take part in these awesome benefits!
It can also do video/voice chat, right?6.
Another prejudice!
Wooo! Some people would be ashamed to let the world know that they think that one, single word typed by one, single marketing droid determines the overall quality of the finished product... but not you!
Fuck in-depth analysis!
All you need is ONE WORD!I know you're so freakishly averse to change that you cry every time the sun comes up, but maybe you should try actually thinking about things with an open mind, or perhaps seeking education about things before making blanket statements about them and showing just how oblivious you are to reality.I really, really hope I was trolled, because knowing I wasted a bit of my time makes me feel MUCH better than knowing that someone as bitter and backwards as you is allowed to roam the internet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921689</id>
	<title>Colossal Cave Adventure</title>
	<author>sfraggle</author>
	<datestamp>1256898300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In a related note, over the past couple of weeks I have been porting <a href="https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Colossal\_Cave\_Adventure" title="wikimedia.org">Colossal Cave Adventure</a> [wikimedia.org] to Google Wave.  Send a ping to colossal-wave@appspot.com to play<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In a related note , over the past couple of weeks I have been porting Colossal Cave Adventure [ wikimedia.org ] to Google Wave .
Send a ping to colossal-wave @ appspot.com to play : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In a related note, over the past couple of weeks I have been porting Colossal Cave Adventure [wikimedia.org] to Google Wave.
Send a ping to colossal-wave@appspot.com to play :-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921567</id>
	<title>Re:Kinda sounds like</title>
	<author>AniVisual</author>
	<datestamp>1256895900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> The hype is because it has no technical jargon words. The media gets a headache when it encounters technical jargon. The hype is because it has marketing jargon. The media falls head-over-heels when it encounters marketing jargon. </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The hype is because it has no technical jargon words .
The media gets a headache when it encounters technical jargon .
The hype is because it has marketing jargon .
The media falls head-over-heels when it encounters marketing jargon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> The hype is because it has no technical jargon words.
The media gets a headache when it encounters technical jargon.
The hype is because it has marketing jargon.
The media falls head-over-heels when it encounters marketing jargon. </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921921</id>
	<title>In my humble opinion.</title>
	<author>Tei</author>
	<datestamp>1256902200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The google web Wave client is tryiing too much things, and give the feel of a alfa client, with the speed a bloated "v14.0"-ish app.</p><p>1) It will be better if it try less things. FIRST. Using waves to configure things, is like using emails to store emails settings. Is just a bad idea. It could be cool, and good for devs (eat your own dog food), but is bad for users. Since the use of waves is slow, changing settings is slow. A normal interface, like the one that Gmail have for his setup details, will be much faster and easy to use, also more "normal".  Future versions of Wave could have something different, but for the current version is just too much. This wave client is trying too strong to be a 2020 client, and need to be a 2009 client.</p><p>2). Again, is 2009. For most people Wave is slow, It just do too much things automatically. Opening and closing waves sould be much faster. It feel like everything is automatically autoupdating all the time. Thats sould stop, and only the active wave be this active. Maybe broadcast the "modified" flag.  A future 2020 version could get that feature back, once our computers and the whole internet is much faster.</p><p>3). Too much!!!.. Is too much!!.  Wave is complex beyond needing a manual, It almost need special training. It seems some features are unwanted, but present everywhere.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..more about this soon..</p><p>Who created a wave?. It seems a wave lack the "headers" of a email. It sould have a way to know the name of the wave creator (the OP in forum parlance), the date of such creating, and other stuff.  The subject/title of a room, sould probably be "manual" and not "automagical".</p><p>Why I can't download it to a file? say a PDF.</p><p>Why I can't open a wave in areal fullscreen way, withouth the web MDI interface?.</p><p>Its need more control over a wave. Like... force part of it read-only, or stop more people to join.</p><p>How its now.. what If I say something sensitive, and some guy invited the wrong person? ok, you can do that with email, but here seems something that can be like more casual. It just don't trusth a wave, because It feels public, without a way to stop that. It would be "easy" to block that.</p><p>What are the limits of a bot? can a bot that inject a SWF steal my account details? Facebook seems a bit more "safer" than this. Bots are like too "misterious". Bots sould have a special way to be identified from humans, and a dedicated page with (maybe) commands. Hell... PEOPLE need a simple profile page.</p><p>LOTS OF STUFF...</p><p>I think Wave has been released too early. Its still a technological preview of a future technology, but is not usable today for what I have commented. I love to have it available, has a toy, but I have not found a real use, nor my friends seems inclined to use it.</p><p>A faster client (desktop based?) will be giganteous step.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The google web Wave client is tryiing too much things , and give the feel of a alfa client , with the speed a bloated " v14.0 " -ish app.1 ) It will be better if it try less things .
FIRST. Using waves to configure things , is like using emails to store emails settings .
Is just a bad idea .
It could be cool , and good for devs ( eat your own dog food ) , but is bad for users .
Since the use of waves is slow , changing settings is slow .
A normal interface , like the one that Gmail have for his setup details , will be much faster and easy to use , also more " normal " .
Future versions of Wave could have something different , but for the current version is just too much .
This wave client is trying too strong to be a 2020 client , and need to be a 2009 client.2 ) .
Again , is 2009 .
For most people Wave is slow , It just do too much things automatically .
Opening and closing waves sould be much faster .
It feel like everything is automatically autoupdating all the time .
Thats sould stop , and only the active wave be this active .
Maybe broadcast the " modified " flag .
A future 2020 version could get that feature back , once our computers and the whole internet is much faster.3 ) .
Too much ! ! ! . .
Is too much ! ! .
Wave is complex beyond needing a manual , It almost need special training .
It seems some features are unwanted , but present everywhere .
..more about this soon..Who created a wave ? .
It seems a wave lack the " headers " of a email .
It sould have a way to know the name of the wave creator ( the OP in forum parlance ) , the date of such creating , and other stuff .
The subject/title of a room , sould probably be " manual " and not " automagical " .Why I ca n't download it to a file ?
say a PDF.Why I ca n't open a wave in areal fullscreen way , withouth the web MDI interface ? .Its need more control over a wave .
Like... force part of it read-only , or stop more people to join.How its now.. what If I say something sensitive , and some guy invited the wrong person ?
ok , you can do that with email , but here seems something that can be like more casual .
It just do n't trusth a wave , because It feels public , without a way to stop that .
It would be " easy " to block that.What are the limits of a bot ?
can a bot that inject a SWF steal my account details ?
Facebook seems a bit more " safer " than this .
Bots are like too " misterious " .
Bots sould have a special way to be identified from humans , and a dedicated page with ( maybe ) commands .
Hell... PEOPLE need a simple profile page.LOTS OF STUFF...I think Wave has been released too early .
Its still a technological preview of a future technology , but is not usable today for what I have commented .
I love to have it available , has a toy , but I have not found a real use , nor my friends seems inclined to use it.A faster client ( desktop based ?
) will be giganteous step .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The google web Wave client is tryiing too much things, and give the feel of a alfa client, with the speed a bloated "v14.0"-ish app.1) It will be better if it try less things.
FIRST. Using waves to configure things, is like using emails to store emails settings.
Is just a bad idea.
It could be cool, and good for devs (eat your own dog food), but is bad for users.
Since the use of waves is slow, changing settings is slow.
A normal interface, like the one that Gmail have for his setup details, will be much faster and easy to use, also more "normal".
Future versions of Wave could have something different, but for the current version is just too much.
This wave client is trying too strong to be a 2020 client, and need to be a 2009 client.2).
Again, is 2009.
For most people Wave is slow, It just do too much things automatically.
Opening and closing waves sould be much faster.
It feel like everything is automatically autoupdating all the time.
Thats sould stop, and only the active wave be this active.
Maybe broadcast the "modified" flag.
A future 2020 version could get that feature back, once our computers and the whole internet is much faster.3).
Too much!!!..
Is too much!!.
Wave is complex beyond needing a manual, It almost need special training.
It seems some features are unwanted, but present everywhere.
..more about this soon..Who created a wave?.
It seems a wave lack the "headers" of a email.
It sould have a way to know the name of the wave creator (the OP in forum parlance), the date of such creating, and other stuff.
The subject/title of a room, sould probably be "manual" and not "automagical".Why I can't download it to a file?
say a PDF.Why I can't open a wave in areal fullscreen way, withouth the web MDI interface?.Its need more control over a wave.
Like... force part of it read-only, or stop more people to join.How its now.. what If I say something sensitive, and some guy invited the wrong person?
ok, you can do that with email, but here seems something that can be like more casual.
It just don't trusth a wave, because It feels public, without a way to stop that.
It would be "easy" to block that.What are the limits of a bot?
can a bot that inject a SWF steal my account details?
Facebook seems a bit more "safer" than this.
Bots are like too "misterious".
Bots sould have a special way to be identified from humans, and a dedicated page with (maybe) commands.
Hell... PEOPLE need a simple profile page.LOTS OF STUFF...I think Wave has been released too early.
Its still a technological preview of a future technology, but is not usable today for what I have commented.
I love to have it available, has a toy, but I have not found a real use, nor my friends seems inclined to use it.A faster client (desktop based?
) will be giganteous step.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29925935</id>
	<title>Re:Kinda sounds like</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256926500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't that why Google has its Talk service? They don't need Skype...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't that why Google has its Talk service ?
They do n't need Skype.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't that why Google has its Talk service?
They don't need Skype...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29925133</id>
	<title>"Hey, Graham! I'm not in the room, right?"</title>
	<author>HTH NE1</author>
	<datestamp>1256922960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The waves are persistent, accessible to anyone who's added to them, and include the ability to track changes, so they ultimately work quite well as a medium for the non-tactical parts of an RPG. A newcomer can jump right in and get up-to-speed on past interactions, and a GM or industrious player can constantly maintain the official record of play by going back and fixing errors, formatting text, adding and deleting material, and reorganizing posts.</p></div><p>Great, so with everything logged, they can finally settle whether or not Galstaff had cast Mordenkainen's Magical Watchdog.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The waves are persistent , accessible to anyone who 's added to them , and include the ability to track changes , so they ultimately work quite well as a medium for the non-tactical parts of an RPG .
A newcomer can jump right in and get up-to-speed on past interactions , and a GM or industrious player can constantly maintain the official record of play by going back and fixing errors , formatting text , adding and deleting material , and reorganizing posts.Great , so with everything logged , they can finally settle whether or not Galstaff had cast Mordenkainen 's Magical Watchdog .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The waves are persistent, accessible to anyone who's added to them, and include the ability to track changes, so they ultimately work quite well as a medium for the non-tactical parts of an RPG.
A newcomer can jump right in and get up-to-speed on past interactions, and a GM or industrious player can constantly maintain the official record of play by going back and fixing errors, formatting text, adding and deleting material, and reorganizing posts.Great, so with everything logged, they can finally settle whether or not Galstaff had cast Mordenkainen's Magical Watchdog.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29928083</id>
	<title>Wierd but not new or really suitable...</title>
	<author>Archfeld</author>
	<datestamp>1256936220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a pen and paper RPG'er for going on 35+ years now, this is only slightly better than numerous apps that have come and gone. To play a real RPG you need to be face to face with your fellow players so you can read the subtle things. As for a channel for player conversations that the GM should not be a part off ? I can't think of any situation involving game that the GM should NOT be involved in. I think they are headed in the right direction but IMHO this would be almost as bad as calling WoW an RPG.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a pen and paper RPG'er for going on 35 + years now , this is only slightly better than numerous apps that have come and gone .
To play a real RPG you need to be face to face with your fellow players so you can read the subtle things .
As for a channel for player conversations that the GM should not be a part off ?
I ca n't think of any situation involving game that the GM should NOT be involved in .
I think they are headed in the right direction but IMHO this would be almost as bad as calling WoW an RPG .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a pen and paper RPG'er for going on 35+ years now, this is only slightly better than numerous apps that have come and gone.
To play a real RPG you need to be face to face with your fellow players so you can read the subtle things.
As for a channel for player conversations that the GM should not be a part off ?
I can't think of any situation involving game that the GM should NOT be involved in.
I think they are headed in the right direction but IMHO this would be almost as bad as calling WoW an RPG.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29921473</id>
	<title>More like forums, really</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256894760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pretty much all of the described things (three separate threads. Private messages. Logs.) are exactly as they would be in PbP (play by post, usually on a forum) game. In addition, RPG oriented forums (Myth-Weavers, GiantITP...) often have dicerollers, character sheet managers, etc... Those could be added as gadgets here too, I guess. But nothing there seems revolutionary as in offering anything new.</p><p>I think that the point is easiness of use compared to other options and stuff like that. Rather than letting you do something new, wave lets you do all the old stuff in one program instead of having multiple ones. One useful scenario for this could be: A PbP game that is played normally on forums, but on wave you see "Ah, those two guys are online now", send them a message "Want to do some playing in real time?" and begin chatting with them. Much easier than telling them to fire up IRC, connect to a server, etc. (especially if they aren't "computer people").</p><p>So I could see wave potentially being useful for this (like many other things). There just has been too much hype about it so people first act more among the lines of "This will cure cancer and HIV and everything!" and then go "Uh, this isn't THAT awesome. We'll need to desperately look for things in which this is superior to other mediums!" instead of going "Oh, a new alternative for forums and chats. Neat. I'm sure we'll come up with some interesting uses for this over time."</p><p>I have been designing a program to play DnD over the internet lately. One with battlemaps, chats, dicerollers, stuff like that. I am aware of OpenRPG and similar products but I'm not completely happy with them (the UI, the functionality, a lot of things) so I've decided to write my own one. I think that writing a wave plugin for the missing stuff instead might be worth giving some thought.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pretty much all of the described things ( three separate threads .
Private messages .
Logs. ) are exactly as they would be in PbP ( play by post , usually on a forum ) game .
In addition , RPG oriented forums ( Myth-Weavers , GiantITP... ) often have dicerollers , character sheet managers , etc... Those could be added as gadgets here too , I guess .
But nothing there seems revolutionary as in offering anything new.I think that the point is easiness of use compared to other options and stuff like that .
Rather than letting you do something new , wave lets you do all the old stuff in one program instead of having multiple ones .
One useful scenario for this could be : A PbP game that is played normally on forums , but on wave you see " Ah , those two guys are online now " , send them a message " Want to do some playing in real time ?
" and begin chatting with them .
Much easier than telling them to fire up IRC , connect to a server , etc .
( especially if they are n't " computer people " ) .So I could see wave potentially being useful for this ( like many other things ) .
There just has been too much hype about it so people first act more among the lines of " This will cure cancer and HIV and everything !
" and then go " Uh , this is n't THAT awesome .
We 'll need to desperately look for things in which this is superior to other mediums !
" instead of going " Oh , a new alternative for forums and chats .
Neat. I 'm sure we 'll come up with some interesting uses for this over time .
" I have been designing a program to play DnD over the internet lately .
One with battlemaps , chats , dicerollers , stuff like that .
I am aware of OpenRPG and similar products but I 'm not completely happy with them ( the UI , the functionality , a lot of things ) so I 've decided to write my own one .
I think that writing a wave plugin for the missing stuff instead might be worth giving some thought .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pretty much all of the described things (three separate threads.
Private messages.
Logs.) are exactly as they would be in PbP (play by post, usually on a forum) game.
In addition, RPG oriented forums (Myth-Weavers, GiantITP...) often have dicerollers, character sheet managers, etc... Those could be added as gadgets here too, I guess.
But nothing there seems revolutionary as in offering anything new.I think that the point is easiness of use compared to other options and stuff like that.
Rather than letting you do something new, wave lets you do all the old stuff in one program instead of having multiple ones.
One useful scenario for this could be: A PbP game that is played normally on forums, but on wave you see "Ah, those two guys are online now", send them a message "Want to do some playing in real time?
" and begin chatting with them.
Much easier than telling them to fire up IRC, connect to a server, etc.
(especially if they aren't "computer people").So I could see wave potentially being useful for this (like many other things).
There just has been too much hype about it so people first act more among the lines of "This will cure cancer and HIV and everything!
" and then go "Uh, this isn't THAT awesome.
We'll need to desperately look for things in which this is superior to other mediums!
" instead of going "Oh, a new alternative for forums and chats.
Neat. I'm sure we'll come up with some interesting uses for this over time.
"I have been designing a program to play DnD over the internet lately.
One with battlemaps, chats, dicerollers, stuff like that.
I am aware of OpenRPG and similar products but I'm not completely happy with them (the UI, the functionality, a lot of things) so I've decided to write my own one.
I think that writing a wave plugin for the missing stuff instead might be worth giving some thought.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29922609</id>
	<title>Re:Kinda sounds like</title>
	<author>dr00p</author>
	<datestamp>1256911020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think there are already a few voice/video conference extensions<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think there are already a few voice/video conference extensions .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think there are already a few voice/video conference extensions ...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29922391</id>
	<title>Re:Not going to catch on</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256909040000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>"Those of us with beta accounts are familiar with the fact that its slow, clumsy, and unexciting"</p><p>Please don't post drivel that tries to paint broad strokes about a platform like this.  On Chrome, I've found the platform very responsible (especially over the last few weeks).  The only major exception being for ridiculously large waves.  Unlike email, it takes time to fetch all the little bits and pieces of data and assemble them.  The wave protocol needs to have a "check-in" or "lock" point where it just generates the whole wave once it reaches a certain point.  That's really been the ONLY part that I've had trouble with.</p><p>I've found Wave exceptionally useful for small and mid-sized team coordination.  It's better than Chat, and a hell of a lot better than Email.  Its a meeting that takes notes itself (and let's face it, despite how important this is who actually makes the time to do it?).</p><p>Is it perfect?  Absolutely not.  Most of these problems are minimal, and hopefully will be solved with some effort on Google's part.  However, more to the point is the fact that the entire PLATFORM is open sources.  Hell, there's even a java text-based client that ships with the FedOne server.  Since this is Slashdot, and we're all open source minded here, I'll simply say: "Don't like Google's client?  Stop being retard, get the source and MAKE YOUR OWN."</p><p>Wave is an amazing protocol and a worthwhile technology exploration.  It would benefit the community if people actually stopped making excuses and started participating in efforts to help move the technology forward.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Those of us with beta accounts are familiar with the fact that its slow , clumsy , and unexciting " Please do n't post drivel that tries to paint broad strokes about a platform like this .
On Chrome , I 've found the platform very responsible ( especially over the last few weeks ) .
The only major exception being for ridiculously large waves .
Unlike email , it takes time to fetch all the little bits and pieces of data and assemble them .
The wave protocol needs to have a " check-in " or " lock " point where it just generates the whole wave once it reaches a certain point .
That 's really been the ONLY part that I 've had trouble with.I 've found Wave exceptionally useful for small and mid-sized team coordination .
It 's better than Chat , and a hell of a lot better than Email .
Its a meeting that takes notes itself ( and let 's face it , despite how important this is who actually makes the time to do it ?
) .Is it perfect ?
Absolutely not .
Most of these problems are minimal , and hopefully will be solved with some effort on Google 's part .
However , more to the point is the fact that the entire PLATFORM is open sources .
Hell , there 's even a java text-based client that ships with the FedOne server .
Since this is Slashdot , and we 're all open source minded here , I 'll simply say : " Do n't like Google 's client ?
Stop being retard , get the source and MAKE YOUR OWN .
" Wave is an amazing protocol and a worthwhile technology exploration .
It would benefit the community if people actually stopped making excuses and started participating in efforts to help move the technology forward .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Those of us with beta accounts are familiar with the fact that its slow, clumsy, and unexciting"Please don't post drivel that tries to paint broad strokes about a platform like this.
On Chrome, I've found the platform very responsible (especially over the last few weeks).
The only major exception being for ridiculously large waves.
Unlike email, it takes time to fetch all the little bits and pieces of data and assemble them.
The wave protocol needs to have a "check-in" or "lock" point where it just generates the whole wave once it reaches a certain point.
That's really been the ONLY part that I've had trouble with.I've found Wave exceptionally useful for small and mid-sized team coordination.
It's better than Chat, and a hell of a lot better than Email.
Its a meeting that takes notes itself (and let's face it, despite how important this is who actually makes the time to do it?
).Is it perfect?
Absolutely not.
Most of these problems are minimal, and hopefully will be solved with some effort on Google's part.
However, more to the point is the fact that the entire PLATFORM is open sources.
Hell, there's even a java text-based client that ships with the FedOne server.
Since this is Slashdot, and we're all open source minded here, I'll simply say: "Don't like Google's client?
Stop being retard, get the source and MAKE YOUR OWN.
"Wave is an amazing protocol and a worthwhile technology exploration.
It would benefit the community if people actually stopped making excuses and started participating in efforts to help move the technology forward.</sentencetext>
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--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_30_022242.29923869
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