<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_29_1845219</id>
	<title>Mozilla Releases SeaMonkey 2.0</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1256842080000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>binarybum writes <i>"Often forgotten, but the independent open source spirit lives strong in the once Mozilla project &mdash; now <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SeaMonkey">SeaMonkey</a>.  <a href="http://seamonkey-project.org/">Version 2.0 is finally out</a> and rivals Firefox with similar features but integrated email with a small footprint."</i>

The Register has a <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/28/mozilla\_seamonkey\_2point0/">short piece on the 2.0 release</a>, which mentions that SeaMonkey is now based on Firefox 3.5.4. Stephen Shankland <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685\_3-10384906-264.html">lists some of the features</a> in a handy bullet-point style, too. I'm using the new release right now; it's crashed once &mdash; but only once &mdash; in several hours of use.</htmltext>
<tokenext>binarybum writes " Often forgotten , but the independent open source spirit lives strong in the once Mozilla project    now SeaMonkey .
Version 2.0 is finally out and rivals Firefox with similar features but integrated email with a small footprint .
" The Register has a short piece on the 2.0 release , which mentions that SeaMonkey is now based on Firefox 3.5.4 .
Stephen Shankland lists some of the features in a handy bullet-point style , too .
I 'm using the new release right now ; it 's crashed once    but only once    in several hours of use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>binarybum writes "Often forgotten, but the independent open source spirit lives strong in the once Mozilla project — now SeaMonkey.
Version 2.0 is finally out and rivals Firefox with similar features but integrated email with a small footprint.
"

The Register has a short piece on the 2.0 release, which mentions that SeaMonkey is now based on Firefox 3.5.4.
Stephen Shankland lists some of the features in a handy bullet-point style, too.
I'm using the new release right now; it's crashed once — but only once — in several hours of use.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29920843</id>
	<title>Re:More similarity with Firefox isn't all good</title>
	<author>Randle\_Revar</author>
	<datestamp>1256840940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You should probably file a bug on gtk-print instead.</p><p>I use SeaMonkey as my main browser, and the only time I have crash problems is during the alpha phase, and even then it usually isn't bad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You should probably file a bug on gtk-print instead.I use SeaMonkey as my main browser , and the only time I have crash problems is during the alpha phase , and even then it usually is n't bad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You should probably file a bug on gtk-print instead.I use SeaMonkey as my main browser, and the only time I have crash problems is during the alpha phase, and even then it usually isn't bad.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914745</id>
	<title>FOSS standards are slipping</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256847780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I remember a time, only a few years ago, where even one crash in several hours of use would be seen as unacceptable for software at a major version number release.</p><p>I guess it's unavoidable, though.  When you have a culture where SLOC alone is the sole metric of what is considered good software, instability is an inevitable result.</p><p>It's ironic.  Microsoft could become insolvent tomorrow and vanish off the face of the Earth, and still, at this point, ultimately they would have won.</p><p>They've won by subverting FOSS developers' internal definition of what constitutes good software.  Stability, correctness, minimalism...these are no longer seen as elements of sound development practice.</p><p>Instead, it's purely about pleasing the lowest common denominator of mindless end users.  Whatever said demographic screams for the loudest, they get.</p><p>It's also about programmers wanting to be able to use the most visible possible metric as reason, on its' own, for them to flex their epeens; without realising that, given the relationship between code quantity and bugs, it's exactly the opposite approach to the one that they really ought to be taking.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember a time , only a few years ago , where even one crash in several hours of use would be seen as unacceptable for software at a major version number release.I guess it 's unavoidable , though .
When you have a culture where SLOC alone is the sole metric of what is considered good software , instability is an inevitable result.It 's ironic .
Microsoft could become insolvent tomorrow and vanish off the face of the Earth , and still , at this point , ultimately they would have won.They 've won by subverting FOSS developers ' internal definition of what constitutes good software .
Stability , correctness , minimalism...these are no longer seen as elements of sound development practice.Instead , it 's purely about pleasing the lowest common denominator of mindless end users .
Whatever said demographic screams for the loudest , they get.It 's also about programmers wanting to be able to use the most visible possible metric as reason , on its ' own , for them to flex their epeens ; without realising that , given the relationship between code quantity and bugs , it 's exactly the opposite approach to the one that they really ought to be taking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember a time, only a few years ago, where even one crash in several hours of use would be seen as unacceptable for software at a major version number release.I guess it's unavoidable, though.
When you have a culture where SLOC alone is the sole metric of what is considered good software, instability is an inevitable result.It's ironic.
Microsoft could become insolvent tomorrow and vanish off the face of the Earth, and still, at this point, ultimately they would have won.They've won by subverting FOSS developers' internal definition of what constitutes good software.
Stability, correctness, minimalism...these are no longer seen as elements of sound development practice.Instead, it's purely about pleasing the lowest common denominator of mindless end users.
Whatever said demographic screams for the loudest, they get.It's also about programmers wanting to be able to use the most visible possible metric as reason, on its' own, for them to flex their epeens; without realising that, given the relationship between code quantity and bugs, it's exactly the opposite approach to the one that they really ought to be taking.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914691</id>
	<title>It did what once?</title>
	<author>glwtta</author>
	<datestamp>1256847540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wait, this is the final release and it crashed within a few hours?
<br> <br>
That's... not good.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait , this is the final release and it crashed within a few hours ?
That 's... not good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait, this is the final release and it crashed within a few hours?
That's... not good.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914435</id>
	<title>Re:Not based on Firefox, other way around</title>
	<author>pete-classic</author>
	<datestamp>1256846520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm also working from memory, but I think that Gecko is the engine.  Firefox used to be the engineering test-bed browser component for the Mozilla suite, but end users decided they liked the light and fast standalone browser.</p><p>-Peter</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm also working from memory , but I think that Gecko is the engine .
Firefox used to be the engineering test-bed browser component for the Mozilla suite , but end users decided they liked the light and fast standalone browser.-Peter</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm also working from memory, but I think that Gecko is the engine.
Firefox used to be the engineering test-bed browser component for the Mozilla suite, but end users decided they liked the light and fast standalone browser.-Peter</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29925203</id>
	<title>Re:flash ?</title>
	<author>charlesnw</author>
	<datestamp>1256923200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So when I watch several hours of 720p !TV in a row from hulu.com on Saturdays using Ubuntu and Firefox..... what exactly sucks about flash on linux?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So when I watch several hours of 720p ! TV in a row from hulu.com on Saturdays using Ubuntu and Firefox..... what exactly sucks about flash on linux ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So when I watch several hours of 720p !TV in a row from hulu.com on Saturdays using Ubuntu and Firefox..... what exactly sucks about flash on linux?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29921463</id>
	<title>Re:SeaMonkey Composer is the best...</title>
	<author>Jugalator</author>
	<datestamp>1256894640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>SeaMonkey Composer is the best way to make WYSIWYG, What You See Is What You Get, HTML files.</p> </div><p>From what I read, no one even merged the Nvu code improvements back into the Composer source tree, much less the improvements to Nvu that now form <a href="http://www.kompozer.net/" title="kompozer.net">KompoZer</a> [kompozer.net]. Besides, there are other up-to-date and free WYSIWYG editors for HTML. Do SeaMonkey Composer for example even support modern HTML standards and cross-browser validation?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>SeaMonkey Composer is the best way to make WYSIWYG , What You See Is What You Get , HTML files .
From what I read , no one even merged the Nvu code improvements back into the Composer source tree , much less the improvements to Nvu that now form KompoZer [ kompozer.net ] .
Besides , there are other up-to-date and free WYSIWYG editors for HTML .
Do SeaMonkey Composer for example even support modern HTML standards and cross-browser validation ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SeaMonkey Composer is the best way to make WYSIWYG, What You See Is What You Get, HTML files.
From what I read, no one even merged the Nvu code improvements back into the Composer source tree, much less the improvements to Nvu that now form KompoZer [kompozer.net].
Besides, there are other up-to-date and free WYSIWYG editors for HTML.
Do SeaMonkey Composer for example even support modern HTML standards and cross-browser validation?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914853</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29916697</id>
	<title>You do realize...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256811780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>..that although seamonkey is touted as a suite, that the browser part can be downloaded and run all by itself? It can be just as much "standalone" as FF and a ton of the same extensions and add-ons that you can get for FF work as well. The style is just way more classic netscape navigator, and the preferences are also classic old styled, meaning *complete* and not minimalized and fisher-priced like they are with FF.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>..that although seamonkey is touted as a suite , that the browser part can be downloaded and run all by itself ?
It can be just as much " standalone " as FF and a ton of the same extensions and add-ons that you can get for FF work as well .
The style is just way more classic netscape navigator , and the preferences are also classic old styled , meaning * complete * and not minimalized and fisher-priced like they are with FF .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>..that although seamonkey is touted as a suite, that the browser part can be downloaded and run all by itself?
It can be just as much "standalone" as FF and a ton of the same extensions and add-ons that you can get for FF work as well.
The style is just way more classic netscape navigator, and the preferences are also classic old styled, meaning *complete* and not minimalized and fisher-priced like they are with FF.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914435</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914365</id>
	<title>Glad to see!</title>
	<author>grumpygrodyguy</author>
	<datestamp>1256846220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm browsing with SeaMonkey 1.1.17 right now, I prefer they way it handles tabs over firefox.</p><p>Hope they didn't change that!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm browsing with SeaMonkey 1.1.17 right now , I prefer they way it handles tabs over firefox.Hope they did n't change that !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm browsing with SeaMonkey 1.1.17 right now, I prefer they way it handles tabs over firefox.Hope they didn't change that!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29920797</id>
	<title>Re:Not based on Firefox, other way around</title>
	<author>Randle\_Revar</author>
	<datestamp>1256840160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This whole subthread is nuts. How is SLASHDOT, of all places, not aware of Mozilla/Firefox/SeaMonkey history? And it isn't even old history!</p><p>Mozilla is the original (retroactively called Mozilla Internet Suite)<br>Firefox is the preferred second child<br>SeaMonkey is Mozilla's new name because the Mozilla Foundation doesn't like it any more</p><p>1998<br>Netscape starts on version 5<br>Netscape decides to go to version 6, writing everything from scratch - the engine was NGLayout, which became Gecko<br>Netscape forms the Mozilla organization to work on this code</p><p>1999<br>Netscape acquisition by AOL finalized</p><p>2000<br>AOL releases Netscape 6.0, based on Mozilla 0.6 code</p><p>2002<br>Mozilla 1.0 released (Gecko and Browser versions are in sync)<br>Netscape 7.0 released, based on Mozilla 1.0.1<br>Phoenix project starts with the goal of making a lighter weight version of Mozilla, with just a browser</p><p>2003<br>Phoenix becomes the main focus of the Mozilla Foundation<br>Phoenix and Minotaur become Firebird and Thunderbird<br>Mozilla 1.4 released<br>Netscape 7.1 released, based on Mozilla 1.4<br>Mozilla Firebird 0.6 released, based on Gecko 1.4<br>AOL creates the non-profit Mozilla Foundation, and turns over all Mozilla-related activities to them.</p><p>2004<br>Mozilla 1.6 released<br>Firebird renamed Firefox, version 0.8 released, based on Gecko 1.6. Thunderbird 0.5 releases.<br>Mozilla 1.7, Firefox 0.9, Thunderbird 0.7 release<br>Firefox 1.0 releases</p><p>2005<br>Netscape 8.0 releases, based on Firefox 1.0<br>The Mozilla Foundation abandons the Mozilla Internet Suite, focuses solely on Firefox<br>The community adopts Mozilla, and rename it SeaMonkey (historical code name of the Mozilla browsers chrome) at the request of the Mozilla Foundation<br>Firefox 1.5, Gecko 1.8 released</p><p>2006<br>SeaMonkey 1.0 releases, based on Gecko 1.8</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This whole subthread is nuts .
How is SLASHDOT , of all places , not aware of Mozilla/Firefox/SeaMonkey history ?
And it is n't even old history ! Mozilla is the original ( retroactively called Mozilla Internet Suite ) Firefox is the preferred second childSeaMonkey is Mozilla 's new name because the Mozilla Foundation does n't like it any more1998Netscape starts on version 5Netscape decides to go to version 6 , writing everything from scratch - the engine was NGLayout , which became GeckoNetscape forms the Mozilla organization to work on this code1999Netscape acquisition by AOL finalized2000AOL releases Netscape 6.0 , based on Mozilla 0.6 code2002Mozilla 1.0 released ( Gecko and Browser versions are in sync ) Netscape 7.0 released , based on Mozilla 1.0.1Phoenix project starts with the goal of making a lighter weight version of Mozilla , with just a browser2003Phoenix becomes the main focus of the Mozilla FoundationPhoenix and Minotaur become Firebird and ThunderbirdMozilla 1.4 releasedNetscape 7.1 released , based on Mozilla 1.4Mozilla Firebird 0.6 released , based on Gecko 1.4AOL creates the non-profit Mozilla Foundation , and turns over all Mozilla-related activities to them.2004Mozilla 1.6 releasedFirebird renamed Firefox , version 0.8 released , based on Gecko 1.6 .
Thunderbird 0.5 releases.Mozilla 1.7 , Firefox 0.9 , Thunderbird 0.7 releaseFirefox 1.0 releases2005Netscape 8.0 releases , based on Firefox 1.0The Mozilla Foundation abandons the Mozilla Internet Suite , focuses solely on FirefoxThe community adopts Mozilla , and rename it SeaMonkey ( historical code name of the Mozilla browsers chrome ) at the request of the Mozilla FoundationFirefox 1.5 , Gecko 1.8 released2006SeaMonkey 1.0 releases , based on Gecko 1.8</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This whole subthread is nuts.
How is SLASHDOT, of all places, not aware of Mozilla/Firefox/SeaMonkey history?
And it isn't even old history!Mozilla is the original (retroactively called Mozilla Internet Suite)Firefox is the preferred second childSeaMonkey is Mozilla's new name because the Mozilla Foundation doesn't like it any more1998Netscape starts on version 5Netscape decides to go to version 6, writing everything from scratch - the engine was NGLayout, which became GeckoNetscape forms the Mozilla organization to work on this code1999Netscape acquisition by AOL finalized2000AOL releases Netscape 6.0, based on Mozilla 0.6 code2002Mozilla 1.0 released (Gecko and Browser versions are in sync)Netscape 7.0 released, based on Mozilla 1.0.1Phoenix project starts with the goal of making a lighter weight version of Mozilla, with just a browser2003Phoenix becomes the main focus of the Mozilla FoundationPhoenix and Minotaur become Firebird and ThunderbirdMozilla 1.4 releasedNetscape 7.1 released, based on Mozilla 1.4Mozilla Firebird 0.6 released, based on Gecko 1.4AOL creates the non-profit Mozilla Foundation, and turns over all Mozilla-related activities to them.2004Mozilla 1.6 releasedFirebird renamed Firefox, version 0.8 released, based on Gecko 1.6.
Thunderbird 0.5 releases.Mozilla 1.7, Firefox 0.9, Thunderbird 0.7 releaseFirefox 1.0 releases2005Netscape 8.0 releases, based on Firefox 1.0The Mozilla Foundation abandons the Mozilla Internet Suite, focuses solely on FirefoxThe community adopts Mozilla, and rename it SeaMonkey (historical code name of the Mozilla browsers chrome) at the request of the Mozilla FoundationFirefox 1.5, Gecko 1.8 released2006SeaMonkey 1.0 releases, based on Gecko 1.8</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914851</id>
	<title>Re:FOSS standards are slipping</title>
	<author>murdocj</author>
	<datestamp>1256848320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow... I knew where this was headed, and yet I still couldn't believe it.  An open source program that has absolutely nothing to do with Microsoft crashes, and guess what, it's all MS's fault.</p><p>There's plenty of legitimate gripes with Microsoft.  Blame them for a secretive culture, monopolistic practices, failure to follow standards, bugs, etc etc etc.  But don't blame them for the failings of FOSS software.  Next thing you know, MS will be the reason GNU/Hurd hasn't taken over.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow... I knew where this was headed , and yet I still could n't believe it .
An open source program that has absolutely nothing to do with Microsoft crashes , and guess what , it 's all MS 's fault.There 's plenty of legitimate gripes with Microsoft .
Blame them for a secretive culture , monopolistic practices , failure to follow standards , bugs , etc etc etc .
But do n't blame them for the failings of FOSS software .
Next thing you know , MS will be the reason GNU/Hurd has n't taken over .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow... I knew where this was headed, and yet I still couldn't believe it.
An open source program that has absolutely nothing to do with Microsoft crashes, and guess what, it's all MS's fault.There's plenty of legitimate gripes with Microsoft.
Blame them for a secretive culture, monopolistic practices, failure to follow standards, bugs, etc etc etc.
But don't blame them for the failings of FOSS software.
Next thing you know, MS will be the reason GNU/Hurd hasn't taken over.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914897</id>
	<title>Re:Integrated email?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256848440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When the hell was seamonkey supposed to be a lightweight alternative to anything? Seamonkey is a continuation of the Mozilla suite.</p><p>Some people may be surprised to discover that there were alternative web browsers before Firefox. But some geniuses must have decided that they weren't dumbed down enough.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When the hell was seamonkey supposed to be a lightweight alternative to anything ?
Seamonkey is a continuation of the Mozilla suite.Some people may be surprised to discover that there were alternative web browsers before Firefox .
But some geniuses must have decided that they were n't dumbed down enough .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When the hell was seamonkey supposed to be a lightweight alternative to anything?
Seamonkey is a continuation of the Mozilla suite.Some people may be surprised to discover that there were alternative web browsers before Firefox.
But some geniuses must have decided that they weren't dumbed down enough.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29920817</id>
	<title>Re:Not based on Firefox, other way around</title>
	<author>Randle\_Revar</author>
	<datestamp>1256840460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, FF was a project started by two guys who wanted a lightweight browser based on Gecko. Unlike the other projects with the same thing in mind (epiphany, k-meleon, galleon, etc) it became very popular, and became the official browser.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , FF was a project started by two guys who wanted a lightweight browser based on Gecko .
Unlike the other projects with the same thing in mind ( epiphany , k-meleon , galleon , etc ) it became very popular , and became the official browser .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, FF was a project started by two guys who wanted a lightweight browser based on Gecko.
Unlike the other projects with the same thing in mind (epiphany, k-meleon, galleon, etc) it became very popular, and became the official browser.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29926167</id>
	<title>Re:How to disable command-E (Edit Page)</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256927640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That you need to go through all this just to edit some keybindings raises some serious questions about usability.  I'm not saying anyone else does it better, but it's ridiculous that it's not something you can do through a customization UI or a simple pref.js file.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That you need to go through all this just to edit some keybindings raises some serious questions about usability .
I 'm not saying anyone else does it better , but it 's ridiculous that it 's not something you can do through a customization UI or a simple pref.js file .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That you need to go through all this just to edit some keybindings raises some serious questions about usability.
I'm not saying anyone else does it better, but it's ridiculous that it's not something you can do through a customization UI or a simple pref.js file.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914687</id>
	<title>Why?!</title>
	<author>fluch</author>
	<datestamp>1256847480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Web-browser, advanced e-mail, newsgroup and feed client, IRC chat, and HTML editing made simple -- all your Internet needs in one application"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... for what reason do we need this all in one single application?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Web-browser , advanced e-mail , newsgroup and feed client , IRC chat , and HTML editing made simple -- all your Internet needs in one application " ... for what reason do we need this all in one single application ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Web-browser, advanced e-mail, newsgroup and feed client, IRC chat, and HTML editing made simple -- all your Internet needs in one application" ... for what reason do we need this all in one single application?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914945</id>
	<title>Re:Glad to see!</title>
	<author>antdude</author>
	<datestamp>1256848620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your version is outdated for v1.1 series. v1.1.18 exists.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your version is outdated for v1.1 series .
v1.1.18 exists .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your version is outdated for v1.1 series.
v1.1.18 exists.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29915167</id>
	<title>Re:Integrated email?</title>
	<author>chebucto</author>
	<datestamp>1256849520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Learn your history - Firefox was supposed to be the lightweight alternative to the Mozilla Suite. Seamonkey is the continuation of the Mozilla Suite under a different name.</p><p>So, Firefox was the lightweight alternative to Seamonkey.</p><p>Except, Firefox started seriously competing with IE, started getting bloat, and for some time now has been a more heavyweight program than Seamonkey. All this despite the fact that Firefox only offers web browsing, while Seamonkey offers Web, News, Email, IRC, and HTML Editing.</p><p>A reason for this IMHO is that Seamonkey does not try to appeal to a general audience and thus has less pressure to add iffy features. That, and the lower popularity of Seamonkey probably means there are fewer developers trying to make their mark, which keeps things sane(r).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Learn your history - Firefox was supposed to be the lightweight alternative to the Mozilla Suite .
Seamonkey is the continuation of the Mozilla Suite under a different name.So , Firefox was the lightweight alternative to Seamonkey.Except , Firefox started seriously competing with IE , started getting bloat , and for some time now has been a more heavyweight program than Seamonkey .
All this despite the fact that Firefox only offers web browsing , while Seamonkey offers Web , News , Email , IRC , and HTML Editing.A reason for this IMHO is that Seamonkey does not try to appeal to a general audience and thus has less pressure to add iffy features .
That , and the lower popularity of Seamonkey probably means there are fewer developers trying to make their mark , which keeps things sane ( r ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Learn your history - Firefox was supposed to be the lightweight alternative to the Mozilla Suite.
Seamonkey is the continuation of the Mozilla Suite under a different name.So, Firefox was the lightweight alternative to Seamonkey.Except, Firefox started seriously competing with IE, started getting bloat, and for some time now has been a more heavyweight program than Seamonkey.
All this despite the fact that Firefox only offers web browsing, while Seamonkey offers Web, News, Email, IRC, and HTML Editing.A reason for this IMHO is that Seamonkey does not try to appeal to a general audience and thus has less pressure to add iffy features.
That, and the lower popularity of Seamonkey probably means there are fewer developers trying to make their mark, which keeps things sane(r).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914667</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29918801</id>
	<title>been using it for 2months</title>
	<author>Karnje</author>
	<datestamp>1256822340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have been using Seamonkey since the beginning of September(the alpha) updating it nightly and I can tell you this browser is the sh!t. I have had only 6 crashes since I started using it. All six times I had over 20 tabs open and 5 out of the six times I was able to fully recover right back to where I was before the crash.(so in essence I only had 1 complete crash) The only problem I have with the browser is some fonts (Tahoma in my case) look jagged when set in an H1 or H2 tag. But generally this browser is much better than Firefox IMHO and it makes IE look like baby code in comparison.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have been using Seamonkey since the beginning of September ( the alpha ) updating it nightly and I can tell you this browser is the sh ! t .
I have had only 6 crashes since I started using it .
All six times I had over 20 tabs open and 5 out of the six times I was able to fully recover right back to where I was before the crash .
( so in essence I only had 1 complete crash ) The only problem I have with the browser is some fonts ( Tahoma in my case ) look jagged when set in an H1 or H2 tag .
But generally this browser is much better than Firefox IMHO and it makes IE look like baby code in comparison .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have been using Seamonkey since the beginning of September(the alpha) updating it nightly and I can tell you this browser is the sh!t.
I have had only 6 crashes since I started using it.
All six times I had over 20 tabs open and 5 out of the six times I was able to fully recover right back to where I was before the crash.
(so in essence I only had 1 complete crash) The only problem I have with the browser is some fonts (Tahoma in my case) look jagged when set in an H1 or H2 tag.
But generally this browser is much better than Firefox IMHO and it makes IE look like baby code in comparison.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29922515</id>
	<title>All browsers crash</title>
	<author>Ilgaz</author>
	<datestamp>1256910360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Every single final version of browser out there even including IE has some feature like "tab recovery". Guess the reason for it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Every single final version of browser out there even including IE has some feature like " tab recovery " .
Guess the reason for it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Every single final version of browser out there even including IE has some feature like "tab recovery".
Guess the reason for it?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914691</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.30003706</id>
	<title>Re:WARNING for users with several profiles</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257498180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I ran into this same problem.  I gave up and reinstalled Seamonkey version 1.  If Seamonkey 2 doesn't make it easy for me to my Seamonkey 1 profile, then I will stick with Seamonkey 1 while starting to shop for something to replace Seamonkey.  I could switch to Safari.  I use it some already, even though I am on a PC.  And I could find some other email client to replace that part of Seamonkey.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ran into this same problem .
I gave up and reinstalled Seamonkey version 1 .
If Seamonkey 2 does n't make it easy for me to my Seamonkey 1 profile , then I will stick with Seamonkey 1 while starting to shop for something to replace Seamonkey .
I could switch to Safari .
I use it some already , even though I am on a PC .
And I could find some other email client to replace that part of Seamonkey .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I ran into this same problem.
I gave up and reinstalled Seamonkey version 1.
If Seamonkey 2 doesn't make it easy for me to my Seamonkey 1 profile, then I will stick with Seamonkey 1 while starting to shop for something to replace Seamonkey.
I could switch to Safari.
I use it some already, even though I am on a PC.
And I could find some other email client to replace that part of Seamonkey.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29916465</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914653</id>
	<title>gn4a</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256847420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>a change 7o TalMk to one of the</htmltext>
<tokenext>a change 7o TalMk to one of the</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a change 7o TalMk to one of the</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29920969</id>
	<title>A good ol' companion</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256843340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been using Seamonkey since Mozilla suite was killed. Before that I was happy with Netscape Communicator suite. Never liked IE or Outlook.</p><p>It's funny to read some comments flaming this product. C'mon people, not everybody has the same needs and likes! You shouldn't be closed minded.  For me, a suite like this, is very usefull. I like the browser and the mail client. Something missing in my opinion, a calendar component bundled, but I hope in the future will be added.</p><p>Personally I hate how firefox manages the tabs and also the search field . I'm used to search from the location bar of Seamonkey. I like pressing ctrl+2 and start the mail client or ctrl+5 and start the address book without taking out the hands of the keyboard and some other small things i'm used to.</p><p>Been with this V2 all day without any problems or crashes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been using Seamonkey since Mozilla suite was killed .
Before that I was happy with Netscape Communicator suite .
Never liked IE or Outlook.It 's funny to read some comments flaming this product .
C'mon people , not everybody has the same needs and likes !
You should n't be closed minded .
For me , a suite like this , is very usefull .
I like the browser and the mail client .
Something missing in my opinion , a calendar component bundled , but I hope in the future will be added.Personally I hate how firefox manages the tabs and also the search field .
I 'm used to search from the location bar of Seamonkey .
I like pressing ctrl + 2 and start the mail client or ctrl + 5 and start the address book without taking out the hands of the keyboard and some other small things i 'm used to.Been with this V2 all day without any problems or crashes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been using Seamonkey since Mozilla suite was killed.
Before that I was happy with Netscape Communicator suite.
Never liked IE or Outlook.It's funny to read some comments flaming this product.
C'mon people, not everybody has the same needs and likes!
You shouldn't be closed minded.
For me, a suite like this, is very usefull.
I like the browser and the mail client.
Something missing in my opinion, a calendar component bundled, but I hope in the future will be added.Personally I hate how firefox manages the tabs and also the search field .
I'm used to search from the location bar of Seamonkey.
I like pressing ctrl+2 and start the mail client or ctrl+5 and start the address book without taking out the hands of the keyboard and some other small things i'm used to.Been with this V2 all day without any problems or crashes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29915097</id>
	<title>Re:Not based on Firefox, other way around</title>
	<author>onefriedrice</author>
	<datestamp>1256849220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm also working from memory, but I think that Gecko is the engine.  Firefox used to be the engineering test-bed browser component for the Mozilla suite, but end users decided they liked the light and fast standalone browser.</p><p>-Peter</p></div><p>Firefox... light... fast...  That's news to me.  <br> <br>Time to suffer the wrath of Mozilla fanboy mods.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm also working from memory , but I think that Gecko is the engine .
Firefox used to be the engineering test-bed browser component for the Mozilla suite , but end users decided they liked the light and fast standalone browser.-PeterFirefox... light... fast... That 's news to me .
Time to suffer the wrath of Mozilla fanboy mods .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm also working from memory, but I think that Gecko is the engine.
Firefox used to be the engineering test-bed browser component for the Mozilla suite, but end users decided they liked the light and fast standalone browser.-PeterFirefox... light... fast...  That's news to me.
Time to suffer the wrath of Mozilla fanboy mods.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914435</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29915451</id>
	<title>Re:flash ?</title>
	<author>gaspyy</author>
	<datestamp>1256807340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Interestingly, I noticed Firefox no longer crashes because of flash. I don't know who fixed it (Mozilla or Adobe) but the last crash must have been more than 6 months ago.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Interestingly , I noticed Firefox no longer crashes because of flash .
I do n't know who fixed it ( Mozilla or Adobe ) but the last crash must have been more than 6 months ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interestingly, I noticed Firefox no longer crashes because of flash.
I don't know who fixed it (Mozilla or Adobe) but the last crash must have been more than 6 months ago.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914391</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29931611</id>
	<title>Re:More similarity with Firefox isn't all good</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256917440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All of the GTK+ dialogs are pure shit. The shittiest of shit. Gawd, I hate GTK+. It's a shame that it's so widely used, when Qt is so much better and is equally open source.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All of the GTK + dialogs are pure shit .
The shittiest of shit .
Gawd , I hate GTK + .
It 's a shame that it 's so widely used , when Qt is so much better and is equally open source .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All of the GTK+ dialogs are pure shit.
The shittiest of shit.
Gawd, I hate GTK+.
It's a shame that it's so widely used, when Qt is so much better and is equally open source.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914465</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29915465</id>
	<title>Nice suite</title>
	<author>sootman</author>
	<datestamp>1256807400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Overall it's pretty nice. Takes a while to load on older hardware, though. Maybe they could release just the browser as a separate component?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Overall it 's pretty nice .
Takes a while to load on older hardware , though .
Maybe they could release just the browser as a separate component ?
; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Overall it's pretty nice.
Takes a while to load on older hardware, though.
Maybe they could release just the browser as a separate component?
;-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29921387</id>
	<title>Re:SeaMonkey Composer is the best...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256893260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>make WYSIWYG, What You See Is What You Get, HTML files.</p></div><p>As a ex-professional web developer, I have to say: You're doin' it wrong!</p><p>HTML has nothing, I repeat, NOTHING to do with looks. If you so much as THINK about looks while writing HTML, you completely and utterly fail. ^^<br>(Yeah. Really.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>CSS is for the looks. HTML is about structuring your code, by adding markup that explains what it is you have there. So software can make sense out of it. RDF or other ontologic languages would be an extension of that idea.</p><p>That's the best way, to test if the webdev you want to hire knows his stuff. The other one is his view on PHP. (If he still wants the job after you tell him he has to use PHP, he has no experience.) ^^<br>Oh, I forgot. There is no more beautifully clear hint on a webdev's experience, than the state of his face when you mention the words "Internet Explorer". Expect pulsating blood vessels and the look of a person who could kill a bunch of MS branded children with his bare hands.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>make WYSIWYG , What You See Is What You Get , HTML files.As a ex-professional web developer , I have to say : You 're doin ' it wrong ! HTML has nothing , I repeat , NOTHING to do with looks .
If you so much as THINK about looks while writing HTML , you completely and utterly fail .
^ ^ ( Yeah. Really .
: ) CSS is for the looks .
HTML is about structuring your code , by adding markup that explains what it is you have there .
So software can make sense out of it .
RDF or other ontologic languages would be an extension of that idea.That 's the best way , to test if the webdev you want to hire knows his stuff .
The other one is his view on PHP .
( If he still wants the job after you tell him he has to use PHP , he has no experience .
) ^ ^ Oh , I forgot .
There is no more beautifully clear hint on a webdev 's experience , than the state of his face when you mention the words " Internet Explorer " .
Expect pulsating blood vessels and the look of a person who could kill a bunch of MS branded children with his bare hands .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>make WYSIWYG, What You See Is What You Get, HTML files.As a ex-professional web developer, I have to say: You're doin' it wrong!HTML has nothing, I repeat, NOTHING to do with looks.
If you so much as THINK about looks while writing HTML, you completely and utterly fail.
^^(Yeah. Really.
:)CSS is for the looks.
HTML is about structuring your code, by adding markup that explains what it is you have there.
So software can make sense out of it.
RDF or other ontologic languages would be an extension of that idea.That's the best way, to test if the webdev you want to hire knows his stuff.
The other one is his view on PHP.
(If he still wants the job after you tell him he has to use PHP, he has no experience.
) ^^Oh, I forgot.
There is no more beautifully clear hint on a webdev's experience, than the state of his face when you mention the words "Internet Explorer".
Expect pulsating blood vessels and the look of a person who could kill a bunch of MS branded children with his bare hands.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914853</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914519</id>
	<title>Wrong SeaMonkey</title>
	<author>dschmit1</author>
	<datestamp>1256846880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was so excited for a new version of the copyrighted brine shrimp.  Imagine my disappointment when I click to view TFA. *sigh*</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was so excited for a new version of the copyrighted brine shrimp .
Imagine my disappointment when I click to view TFA .
* sigh *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was so excited for a new version of the copyrighted brine shrimp.
Imagine my disappointment when I click to view TFA.
*sigh*</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29915087</id>
	<title>This has already been done...</title>
	<author>nimid</author>
	<datestamp>1256849220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>...<a href="http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/" title="gnu.org" rel="nofollow">here</a> [gnu.org].</htmltext>
<tokenext>...here [ gnu.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...here [gnu.org].</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914627</id>
	<title>this is a scam!</title>
	<author>Tumbleweed</author>
	<datestamp>1256847360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is just brine gecko...don't be fooled!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is just brine gecko...do n't be fooled !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is just brine gecko...don't be fooled!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29916415</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares anymore?</title>
	<author>ET3D</author>
	<datestamp>1256810700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I did find having mail and web together comfortable, and being able to edit the odd text web page wasn't a bad feature. Problem was that SeaMonkey just fell so far behind that Firefox provided a lot more useful features, either built in or through add-ins.</p><p>I think it may be too late for SeaMonkey. It might have caught up with Firefox, but it already lost long time users like me. It'd be a hassle to go back.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I did find having mail and web together comfortable , and being able to edit the odd text web page was n't a bad feature .
Problem was that SeaMonkey just fell so far behind that Firefox provided a lot more useful features , either built in or through add-ins.I think it may be too late for SeaMonkey .
It might have caught up with Firefox , but it already lost long time users like me .
It 'd be a hassle to go back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I did find having mail and web together comfortable, and being able to edit the odd text web page wasn't a bad feature.
Problem was that SeaMonkey just fell so far behind that Firefox provided a lot more useful features, either built in or through add-ins.I think it may be too late for SeaMonkey.
It might have caught up with Firefox, but it already lost long time users like me.
It'd be a hassle to go back.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914245</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29916005</id>
	<title>You Fail i@t</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256809440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">noiseS out of the the party in street</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>noiseS out of the the party in street [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>noiseS out of the the party in street [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29917255</id>
	<title>Hold on.</title>
	<author>ledow</author>
	<datestamp>1256813880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"I'm using the new release right now; it's crashed once  but only once  in several hours of use"</p><p>When did crashes stop being an embarrassing programming mistake and become a metric?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I 'm using the new release right now ; it 's crashed once but only once in several hours of use " When did crashes stop being an embarrassing programming mistake and become a metric ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I'm using the new release right now; it's crashed once  but only once  in several hours of use"When did crashes stop being an embarrassing programming mistake and become a metric?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914301</id>
	<title>50\% ?</title>
	<author>daveime</author>
	<datestamp>1256845920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>it's crashed once -- but only once -- in several hours of use</i></p><p>As "several" could (potentially) refer to any number more than two, then it could (potentially) "only" crash 8 times a day, or 56 times a week, or 2912 times a year.</p><p>Not a terribly positive endorsement to be honest.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>it 's crashed once -- but only once -- in several hours of useAs " several " could ( potentially ) refer to any number more than two , then it could ( potentially ) " only " crash 8 times a day , or 56 times a week , or 2912 times a year.Not a terribly positive endorsement to be honest .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it's crashed once -- but only once -- in several hours of useAs "several" could (potentially) refer to any number more than two, then it could (potentially) "only" crash 8 times a day, or 56 times a week, or 2912 times a year.Not a terribly positive endorsement to be honest.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29917231</id>
	<title>Re:Why?!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256813760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>"Web-browser, advanced e-mail, newsgroup and feed client, IRC chat, and HTML editing made simple -- all your Internet needs in one application"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... for what reason do we need this all in one single application?</p></div></blockquote><p>The single application was called Netscape Communicator which later became the Mozilla Project. Your observation is about 15 years late.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Web-browser , advanced e-mail , newsgroup and feed client , IRC chat , and HTML editing made simple -- all your Internet needs in one application " ... for what reason do we need this all in one single application ? The single application was called Netscape Communicator which later became the Mozilla Project .
Your observation is about 15 years late .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Web-browser, advanced e-mail, newsgroup and feed client, IRC chat, and HTML editing made simple -- all your Internet needs in one application" ... for what reason do we need this all in one single application?The single application was called Netscape Communicator which later became the Mozilla Project.
Your observation is about 15 years late.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914687</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914607</id>
	<title>Oh noes....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256847300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Several older operating systems are no longer supported: Windows 95, 98, Me, and NT 4 as well as Mac OS X 10.2 (Jaguar) and 10.3 (Panther).</p><p>I'm doomed!  doomed I tell you!</p><p>Oh wait, that was when I was using Windows Me!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Several older operating systems are no longer supported : Windows 95 , 98 , Me , and NT 4 as well as Mac OS X 10.2 ( Jaguar ) and 10.3 ( Panther ) .I 'm doomed !
doomed I tell you ! Oh wait , that was when I was using Windows Me !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Several older operating systems are no longer supported: Windows 95, 98, Me, and NT 4 as well as Mac OS X 10.2 (Jaguar) and 10.3 (Panther).I'm doomed!
doomed I tell you!Oh wait, that was when I was using Windows Me!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29927387</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares anymore?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256933160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's right, who cares ? We all know that everyone is using the fantastic Outlook/Exchange combination, so there really is no need whatsoever for other email programs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's right , who cares ?
We all know that everyone is using the fantastic Outlook/Exchange combination , so there really is no need whatsoever for other email programs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's right, who cares ?
We all know that everyone is using the fantastic Outlook/Exchange combination, so there really is no need whatsoever for other email programs.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914245</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29919107</id>
	<title>Not small and not green</title>
	<author>bradbury</author>
	<datestamp>1256823960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously dude, if you think seamonkey is "small" then send me some of what you've been smoking (likewise for firefox).  These browsers are some of the largest programs on Linux.  It is difficult to even get firefox started (using "ulimit -Sv") in less than 100MB of memory (seamonkey presumably requires more).  I routinely run firefox/seamonkey sessions that range from 300-800 MB (lots of windows/tabs).  (And limiting the amount of memory is also likely to produce inelegant terminations or outright core dumps -- a reported bug which has existed for 2+ years).</p><p>And don't even talk to me about "green"-ness.  Open up 50-100 tabs in Seamonkey (somewhat more in Firefox using Noscript) and watch your CPU use climb (preventing the ondemand scheduler from reducing clock speed, electricity consumption or maximizing laptop battery life).  I think this is because Mozilla has not optimized the gtk/glib polling functions (perhaps in part because they generally tend to dis' Linux).  I'm a computer scientist rather than a rocket scientist and believe as a general rule that programs should not be paying a price (electricity consumption, CO2 emission, etc.) when much of the program (most tabs and windows) are inactive.</p><p>Both opera and chrome appear to have significantly smaller memory footprints compared with firefox/seamonkey.  And if you really want "small", then we should talk about Mosaic or Netscape [1].  Now, I'll admit that opera and chrome lack some of the features that seamonkey has but it is clear (to me) that the folks developing the Mozilla based browsers have gone off the deep end in terms of using Javascript and thrown away concepts of efficiency.  Chrome also appears to have a potentially much better process model than the Mozilla model (in that user's can adopt different process models for the type of browsing they do).  I happen to open lots of tabs (and keep them open for days), though many of them may be on the same site.  Chrome allows one to adopt the process model to this without the risk of crashing an entire (week old, many tab, takes 15+ minutes to restore) session which appears to be the common characteristic among Mozilla based browsers.</p><p>1. Mosaic or Netscape lack functionality for the "modern" web.  But if one is dealing primarily with information (rather than video) one still is largely actually reading text and those browsers did work reasonably well (even with 15+ years of mileage).  They actually are "small" and would still work for many applications.  If upgraded to something like HTML 5 they would probably trump many "modern" browsers where the emphasis is on eye-candy rather than the simple delivery of information.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously dude , if you think seamonkey is " small " then send me some of what you 've been smoking ( likewise for firefox ) .
These browsers are some of the largest programs on Linux .
It is difficult to even get firefox started ( using " ulimit -Sv " ) in less than 100MB of memory ( seamonkey presumably requires more ) .
I routinely run firefox/seamonkey sessions that range from 300-800 MB ( lots of windows/tabs ) .
( And limiting the amount of memory is also likely to produce inelegant terminations or outright core dumps -- a reported bug which has existed for 2 + years ) .And do n't even talk to me about " green " -ness .
Open up 50-100 tabs in Seamonkey ( somewhat more in Firefox using Noscript ) and watch your CPU use climb ( preventing the ondemand scheduler from reducing clock speed , electricity consumption or maximizing laptop battery life ) .
I think this is because Mozilla has not optimized the gtk/glib polling functions ( perhaps in part because they generally tend to dis ' Linux ) .
I 'm a computer scientist rather than a rocket scientist and believe as a general rule that programs should not be paying a price ( electricity consumption , CO2 emission , etc .
) when much of the program ( most tabs and windows ) are inactive.Both opera and chrome appear to have significantly smaller memory footprints compared with firefox/seamonkey .
And if you really want " small " , then we should talk about Mosaic or Netscape [ 1 ] .
Now , I 'll admit that opera and chrome lack some of the features that seamonkey has but it is clear ( to me ) that the folks developing the Mozilla based browsers have gone off the deep end in terms of using Javascript and thrown away concepts of efficiency .
Chrome also appears to have a potentially much better process model than the Mozilla model ( in that user 's can adopt different process models for the type of browsing they do ) .
I happen to open lots of tabs ( and keep them open for days ) , though many of them may be on the same site .
Chrome allows one to adopt the process model to this without the risk of crashing an entire ( week old , many tab , takes 15 + minutes to restore ) session which appears to be the common characteristic among Mozilla based browsers.1 .
Mosaic or Netscape lack functionality for the " modern " web .
But if one is dealing primarily with information ( rather than video ) one still is largely actually reading text and those browsers did work reasonably well ( even with 15 + years of mileage ) .
They actually are " small " and would still work for many applications .
If upgraded to something like HTML 5 they would probably trump many " modern " browsers where the emphasis is on eye-candy rather than the simple delivery of information .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously dude, if you think seamonkey is "small" then send me some of what you've been smoking (likewise for firefox).
These browsers are some of the largest programs on Linux.
It is difficult to even get firefox started (using "ulimit -Sv") in less than 100MB of memory (seamonkey presumably requires more).
I routinely run firefox/seamonkey sessions that range from 300-800 MB (lots of windows/tabs).
(And limiting the amount of memory is also likely to produce inelegant terminations or outright core dumps -- a reported bug which has existed for 2+ years).And don't even talk to me about "green"-ness.
Open up 50-100 tabs in Seamonkey (somewhat more in Firefox using Noscript) and watch your CPU use climb (preventing the ondemand scheduler from reducing clock speed, electricity consumption or maximizing laptop battery life).
I think this is because Mozilla has not optimized the gtk/glib polling functions (perhaps in part because they generally tend to dis' Linux).
I'm a computer scientist rather than a rocket scientist and believe as a general rule that programs should not be paying a price (electricity consumption, CO2 emission, etc.
) when much of the program (most tabs and windows) are inactive.Both opera and chrome appear to have significantly smaller memory footprints compared with firefox/seamonkey.
And if you really want "small", then we should talk about Mosaic or Netscape [1].
Now, I'll admit that opera and chrome lack some of the features that seamonkey has but it is clear (to me) that the folks developing the Mozilla based browsers have gone off the deep end in terms of using Javascript and thrown away concepts of efficiency.
Chrome also appears to have a potentially much better process model than the Mozilla model (in that user's can adopt different process models for the type of browsing they do).
I happen to open lots of tabs (and keep them open for days), though many of them may be on the same site.
Chrome allows one to adopt the process model to this without the risk of crashing an entire (week old, many tab, takes 15+ minutes to restore) session which appears to be the common characteristic among Mozilla based browsers.1.
Mosaic or Netscape lack functionality for the "modern" web.
But if one is dealing primarily with information (rather than video) one still is largely actually reading text and those browsers did work reasonably well (even with 15+ years of mileage).
They actually are "small" and would still work for many applications.
If upgraded to something like HTML 5 they would probably trump many "modern" browsers where the emphasis is on eye-candy rather than the simple delivery of information.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29916563</id>
	<title>Re:flash ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256811300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>aaaa-aaaa. Savior of the universe.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>aaaa-aaaa .
Savior of the universe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>aaaa-aaaa.
Savior of the universe.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914391</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29915413</id>
	<title>Totally Your Opinion</title>
	<author>repetty</author>
	<datestamp>1256807280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><br>&gt; Users need the flexibility to choose their own mail program.<br><br>Could you please direct me to the RFC that stipulates this?<br><br>Maybe by choosing SeaMonkey they HAVE chosen their own email program.<br><br>Well, you got first post, at least.<br><br>--Richard</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Users need the flexibility to choose their own mail program.Could you please direct me to the RFC that stipulates this ? Maybe by choosing SeaMonkey they HAVE chosen their own email program.Well , you got first post , at least.--Richard</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Users need the flexibility to choose their own mail program.Could you please direct me to the RFC that stipulates this?Maybe by choosing SeaMonkey they HAVE chosen their own email program.Well, you got first post, at least.--Richard</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914245</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29917057</id>
	<title>SeaMonkey, Portable Edition 2.0 for USB drives</title>
	<author>CritterNYC</author>
	<datestamp>1256813100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, I certainly remember it well and fire it up from time to time.  It was what I used before Firefox and Thunderbird came along.  Now that 2.0 has gone gold, hopefully some new users will find it and be intrigued.</p><p>As we (at PortableApps.com) do with Firefox, Thunderbird and Sunbird, we've packaged it as a portable app so you can use it on your flash drive/portable hard drive or try it out without installing it locally.  10 languages are available.</p><p><a href="http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/seamonkey\_portable" title="portableapps.com">SeaMonkey, Portable Edition 2.0 at PortableApps.com</a> [portableapps.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I certainly remember it well and fire it up from time to time .
It was what I used before Firefox and Thunderbird came along .
Now that 2.0 has gone gold , hopefully some new users will find it and be intrigued.As we ( at PortableApps.com ) do with Firefox , Thunderbird and Sunbird , we 've packaged it as a portable app so you can use it on your flash drive/portable hard drive or try it out without installing it locally .
10 languages are available.SeaMonkey , Portable Edition 2.0 at PortableApps.com [ portableapps.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, I certainly remember it well and fire it up from time to time.
It was what I used before Firefox and Thunderbird came along.
Now that 2.0 has gone gold, hopefully some new users will find it and be intrigued.As we (at PortableApps.com) do with Firefox, Thunderbird and Sunbird, we've packaged it as a portable app so you can use it on your flash drive/portable hard drive or try it out without installing it locally.
10 languages are available.SeaMonkey, Portable Edition 2.0 at PortableApps.com [portableapps.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914349</id>
	<title>Not based on Firefox, other way around</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256846160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>IIRC, SeaMonkey is actually the rendering engine testing ground for Firefox.</htmltext>
<tokenext>IIRC , SeaMonkey is actually the rendering engine testing ground for Firefox .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IIRC, SeaMonkey is actually the rendering engine testing ground for Firefox.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29917193</id>
	<title>What happened to Browser Only?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256813640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have been with the beasts since Netscape 2.x, this is posted with SeaMonkey 1.1.18. Never used the e-mail though, and I'd like to keep it that way.<br>Removing the "Browser Only" option in SeaMonkey 2.0, thus forcing the Mozilla e-mail on us SeaMonkey users is a bit of an unexpected move.<br>I'll wait with upgrade a few versions to see if that attitude changes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have been with the beasts since Netscape 2.x , this is posted with SeaMonkey 1.1.18 .
Never used the e-mail though , and I 'd like to keep it that way.Removing the " Browser Only " option in SeaMonkey 2.0 , thus forcing the Mozilla e-mail on us SeaMonkey users is a bit of an unexpected move.I 'll wait with upgrade a few versions to see if that attitude changes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have been with the beasts since Netscape 2.x, this is posted with SeaMonkey 1.1.18.
Never used the e-mail though, and I'd like to keep it that way.Removing the "Browser Only" option in SeaMonkey 2.0, thus forcing the Mozilla e-mail on us SeaMonkey users is a bit of an unexpected move.I'll wait with upgrade a few versions to see if that attitude changes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29917983</id>
	<title>Still prefer the suite, just for the browser</title>
	<author>dschl</author>
	<datestamp>1256817360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Been using it since way back around M8, when it was still the Mozilla Suite. Thanks to the Seamonkey crew for keeping it alive. Firefox hasn't been faster in a long time, and the menus and configurability of Seamonkey offer far more configuration options. I deny cookies as my default, and allowing session cookies for a given site is a PITA on Firefox that requires diving through the preferences. In Seamonkey, it's right there in a menu, takes under a second. At the risk of starting a flamewar, Firefox reminds me a bit of Gnome - no options, because the developers don't think you can handle them. Seamonkey is a bit more like KDE - enough options in the dialogs to tweak it to your satisfaction.</p><p>I use both, but make sure that Seamonkey is installed on the machines that I spend a lot of time using. I haven't checked in a while to see if it still has about:kitchensink and the Book of Mozilla, but I loved having a browser that included everything and the kitchen sink.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Been using it since way back around M8 , when it was still the Mozilla Suite .
Thanks to the Seamonkey crew for keeping it alive .
Firefox has n't been faster in a long time , and the menus and configurability of Seamonkey offer far more configuration options .
I deny cookies as my default , and allowing session cookies for a given site is a PITA on Firefox that requires diving through the preferences .
In Seamonkey , it 's right there in a menu , takes under a second .
At the risk of starting a flamewar , Firefox reminds me a bit of Gnome - no options , because the developers do n't think you can handle them .
Seamonkey is a bit more like KDE - enough options in the dialogs to tweak it to your satisfaction.I use both , but make sure that Seamonkey is installed on the machines that I spend a lot of time using .
I have n't checked in a while to see if it still has about : kitchensink and the Book of Mozilla , but I loved having a browser that included everything and the kitchen sink .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Been using it since way back around M8, when it was still the Mozilla Suite.
Thanks to the Seamonkey crew for keeping it alive.
Firefox hasn't been faster in a long time, and the menus and configurability of Seamonkey offer far more configuration options.
I deny cookies as my default, and allowing session cookies for a given site is a PITA on Firefox that requires diving through the preferences.
In Seamonkey, it's right there in a menu, takes under a second.
At the risk of starting a flamewar, Firefox reminds me a bit of Gnome - no options, because the developers don't think you can handle them.
Seamonkey is a bit more like KDE - enough options in the dialogs to tweak it to your satisfaction.I use both, but make sure that Seamonkey is installed on the machines that I spend a lot of time using.
I haven't checked in a while to see if it still has about:kitchensink and the Book of Mozilla, but I loved having a browser that included everything and the kitchen sink.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29916693</id>
	<title>Are you sure that isn't Kompozer?</title>
	<author>taosk8r</author>
	<datestamp>1256811720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or have they actually, after years, done some fixes to 'NVU' aka Composer?</p><p>After some RTFA, I have to conclude this isn't the case, and Composer is as buggy as ever.</p><p>Funny how nobody even mentions it anywhere in any of the linked information, eh?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or have they actually , after years , done some fixes to 'NVU ' aka Composer ? After some RTFA , I have to conclude this is n't the case , and Composer is as buggy as ever.Funny how nobody even mentions it anywhere in any of the linked information , eh ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or have they actually, after years, done some fixes to 'NVU' aka Composer?After some RTFA, I have to conclude this isn't the case, and Composer is as buggy as ever.Funny how nobody even mentions it anywhere in any of the linked information, eh?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914853</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914567</id>
	<title>But does it work ...</title>
	<author>lbalbalba</author>
	<datestamp>1256847120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>... flawlessly as an Outlook replacement, as an email/calendar client for an Exchange server ?</htmltext>
<tokenext>... flawlessly as an Outlook replacement , as an email/calendar client for an Exchange server ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... flawlessly as an Outlook replacement, as an email/calendar client for an Exchange server ?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914465</id>
	<title>More similarity with Firefox isn't all good</title>
	<author>Ktistec Machine</author>
	<datestamp>1256846640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've used Seamonkey as my default browser for a long time now, mainly because I like the user interface better.  Seamonkey 2.0 now uses Firefox's printing system, though, and this is one of the main things I don't like about Firefox.   I use lpr for printing, not cups, and I liked the fact that earlier versions of Seamonkey (and "Mozilla" before it) remembered any changes I made to the "lpr command" in the print dialog.  Firefox uses gtk-print, which reverts back to the default lpr command every time you click print, even in the same session.  I've reported this as a bug in the Seamonkey bugzilla.</p><p>Regarding crashes, I've seen another report of this <a href="http://lwn.net/Articles/359309/" title="lwn.net">at LWN</a> [lwn.net].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've used Seamonkey as my default browser for a long time now , mainly because I like the user interface better .
Seamonkey 2.0 now uses Firefox 's printing system , though , and this is one of the main things I do n't like about Firefox .
I use lpr for printing , not cups , and I liked the fact that earlier versions of Seamonkey ( and " Mozilla " before it ) remembered any changes I made to the " lpr command " in the print dialog .
Firefox uses gtk-print , which reverts back to the default lpr command every time you click print , even in the same session .
I 've reported this as a bug in the Seamonkey bugzilla.Regarding crashes , I 've seen another report of this at LWN [ lwn.net ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've used Seamonkey as my default browser for a long time now, mainly because I like the user interface better.
Seamonkey 2.0 now uses Firefox's printing system, though, and this is one of the main things I don't like about Firefox.
I use lpr for printing, not cups, and I liked the fact that earlier versions of Seamonkey (and "Mozilla" before it) remembered any changes I made to the "lpr command" in the print dialog.
Firefox uses gtk-print, which reverts back to the default lpr command every time you click print, even in the same session.
I've reported this as a bug in the Seamonkey bugzilla.Regarding crashes, I've seen another report of this at LWN [lwn.net].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29915173</id>
	<title>Re:Really, you're OK with that?</title>
	<author>Geirzinho</author>
	<datestamp>1256849520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a long time user of Seamonkey 2 (alphas and betas) as my primary browser I suspect he threw it at a lot of "testing" sites to see what it could stand up to.  Sure I do see crashes during regular use, but it's rare enough to surprise me (anything else and I would have stopped using it).</p><p>It would be nice if he mentioned whether he actually tried to make the browser crash or if it happened during normal usage...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a long time user of Seamonkey 2 ( alphas and betas ) as my primary browser I suspect he threw it at a lot of " testing " sites to see what it could stand up to .
Sure I do see crashes during regular use , but it 's rare enough to surprise me ( anything else and I would have stopped using it ) .It would be nice if he mentioned whether he actually tried to make the browser crash or if it happened during normal usage.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a long time user of Seamonkey 2 (alphas and betas) as my primary browser I suspect he threw it at a lot of "testing" sites to see what it could stand up to.
Sure I do see crashes during regular use, but it's rare enough to surprise me (anything else and I would have stopped using it).It would be nice if he mentioned whether he actually tried to make the browser crash or if it happened during normal usage...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914289</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29916559</id>
	<title>Re:SeaMonkey Composer is the best...</title>
	<author>Antiocheian</author>
	<datestamp>1256811300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>WYSIWYG was a new feature in the word processors in the early 90s but in HTML is has never been true.</p><p>That said, the Composer is a great and very useful feature for copying and pasting text from an HTML page.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>WYSIWYG was a new feature in the word processors in the early 90s but in HTML is has never been true.That said , the Composer is a great and very useful feature for copying and pasting text from an HTML page .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WYSIWYG was a new feature in the word processors in the early 90s but in HTML is has never been true.That said, the Composer is a great and very useful feature for copying and pasting text from an HTML page.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914853</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29918261</id>
	<title>Re:More similarity with Firefox isn't all good</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256819220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then just use cups. What could lpr possibly do for you that cups cannot these days? Or is it too much for that sparc2 you're running, being all high tek and stuff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then just use cups .
What could lpr possibly do for you that cups can not these days ?
Or is it too much for that sparc2 you 're running , being all high tek and stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then just use cups.
What could lpr possibly do for you that cups cannot these days?
Or is it too much for that sparc2 you're running, being all high tek and stuff.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914465</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914427</id>
	<title>Nooo!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256846520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My beautiful Netscape 4.X era buttons! Where have they gone!</p><p>Stupid mandatory, glossy modernization!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My beautiful Netscape 4.X era buttons !
Where have they gone ! Stupid mandatory , glossy modernization !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My beautiful Netscape 4.X era buttons!
Where have they gone!Stupid mandatory, glossy modernization!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914245</id>
	<title>Who cares anymore?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256845740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All we need is a web browser. Users need the flexibility to choose their own mail program. Besides, webmail is today's king. This is why "Seamonkey" is often forgotten.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All we need is a web browser .
Users need the flexibility to choose their own mail program .
Besides , webmail is today 's king .
This is why " Seamonkey " is often forgotten .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All we need is a web browser.
Users need the flexibility to choose their own mail program.
Besides, webmail is today's king.
This is why "Seamonkey" is often forgotten.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29915331</id>
	<title>Re:Not based on Firefox, other way around</title>
	<author>MBGMorden</author>
	<datestamp>1256806920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>CLOSE, but Phoenix (Firefox's original branding) was a project started to deliberately slim down the browser and focus on it exclusively rather than worrying about other functions like email and HTML editing - ie, it was intended to be an end-user product from it's inception rather than a rendering engine testbed (as the Gecko rendering engine and the Mozilla suite predated Phoenix by quite a bit).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>CLOSE , but Phoenix ( Firefox 's original branding ) was a project started to deliberately slim down the browser and focus on it exclusively rather than worrying about other functions like email and HTML editing - ie , it was intended to be an end-user product from it 's inception rather than a rendering engine testbed ( as the Gecko rendering engine and the Mozilla suite predated Phoenix by quite a bit ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CLOSE, but Phoenix (Firefox's original branding) was a project started to deliberately slim down the browser and focus on it exclusively rather than worrying about other functions like email and HTML editing - ie, it was intended to be an end-user product from it's inception rather than a rendering engine testbed (as the Gecko rendering engine and the Mozilla suite predated Phoenix by quite a bit).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914435</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29924781</id>
	<title>Re:Do you get like... 2 mails per day?</title>
	<author>Colin Smith</author>
	<datestamp>1256921700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OK. For the slightly slower among us...</p><p>Multiply the numbers used by something between 10 and 100.</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OK. For the slightly slower among us...Multiply the numbers used by something between 10 and 100 .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>OK. For the slightly slower among us...Multiply the numbers used by something between 10 and 100.
 </sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29916649</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914259</id>
	<title>So...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256845800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...does anyone besides the developers actually still use this?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...does anyone besides the developers actually still use this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...does anyone besides the developers actually still use this?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29921393</id>
	<title>Re:More similarity with Firefox isn't all good</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1256893380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe there is a global setting for Gnome that allows you to set the default print command. I agree that this is not acceptable interface design. State is a very useful concept. Especially for printing setup.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe there is a global setting for Gnome that allows you to set the default print command .
I agree that this is not acceptable interface design .
State is a very useful concept .
Especially for printing setup .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe there is a global setting for Gnome that allows you to set the default print command.
I agree that this is not acceptable interface design.
State is a very useful concept.
Especially for printing setup.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914465</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29918469</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares anymore?</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1256820600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ever try turning notifications off? If you can, it is a nice way to work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ever try turning notifications off ?
If you can , it is a nice way to work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ever try turning notifications off?
If you can, it is a nice way to work.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29915227</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914347</id>
	<title>still no netflix for linux</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256846160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>sounds bad for neflix. 'course just like most of the rest of US, they remain hostage to fuddles &amp; his payper liesense bugwear, &amp; softwar gangster exclusions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>sounds bad for neflix .
'course just like most of the rest of US , they remain hostage to fuddles &amp; his payper liesense bugwear , &amp; softwar gangster exclusions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>sounds bad for neflix.
'course just like most of the rest of US, they remain hostage to fuddles &amp; his payper liesense bugwear, &amp; softwar gangster exclusions.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29915133</id>
	<title>Re:Integrated email?</title>
	<author>KuNgFo0</author>
	<datestamp>1256849400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's never been advertised as a lightweight alternative to Firefox.  In fact it's the exact opposite - it's a browser suite for those that prefer the everything-and-the-kitchen-sink model.  When Firefox (or Phoenix I think it was originally called) spun off from Mozilla, the original suite began a steady decline into obscurity.  The bastardization that was Firefox focused on stripping away many of the useful features under the premise of trying to build a "lighter" browser (I think they failed, Firefox is still a huge memory hog).  Finally, the Mozilla organization officially closed down the suite project and let it become resurrected as a community project and then was born Seamonkey - an effort to restore the glory of the all-in-one suite but still keep it on track with the code updates that went into Firefox.

<br> <br>I know it's hard for some of you to understand, but please be accepting in that there are some of us that just prefer it this way.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's never been advertised as a lightweight alternative to Firefox .
In fact it 's the exact opposite - it 's a browser suite for those that prefer the everything-and-the-kitchen-sink model .
When Firefox ( or Phoenix I think it was originally called ) spun off from Mozilla , the original suite began a steady decline into obscurity .
The bastardization that was Firefox focused on stripping away many of the useful features under the premise of trying to build a " lighter " browser ( I think they failed , Firefox is still a huge memory hog ) .
Finally , the Mozilla organization officially closed down the suite project and let it become resurrected as a community project and then was born Seamonkey - an effort to restore the glory of the all-in-one suite but still keep it on track with the code updates that went into Firefox .
I know it 's hard for some of you to understand , but please be accepting in that there are some of us that just prefer it this way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's never been advertised as a lightweight alternative to Firefox.
In fact it's the exact opposite - it's a browser suite for those that prefer the everything-and-the-kitchen-sink model.
When Firefox (or Phoenix I think it was originally called) spun off from Mozilla, the original suite began a steady decline into obscurity.
The bastardization that was Firefox focused on stripping away many of the useful features under the premise of trying to build a "lighter" browser (I think they failed, Firefox is still a huge memory hog).
Finally, the Mozilla organization officially closed down the suite project and let it become resurrected as a community project and then was born Seamonkey - an effort to restore the glory of the all-in-one suite but still keep it on track with the code updates that went into Firefox.
I know it's hard for some of you to understand, but please be accepting in that there are some of us that just prefer it this way.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914667</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29915237</id>
	<title>No iceape for Debian/Ubuntu yet</title>
	<author>lanner</author>
	<datestamp>1256849820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have filed a bug under Debian where I am offering $250 if someone can get a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.deb out before the end of next week.</p><p>If you are not already aware, the Firefux/Thunderturd/Seamonkey art licensing prohibits it's use under Debian/Ubuntu.  As such, the packages must be renamed Iceweasle/Icedove/Iceape with new art.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have filed a bug under Debian where I am offering $ 250 if someone can get a .deb out before the end of next week.If you are not already aware , the Firefux/Thunderturd/Seamonkey art licensing prohibits it 's use under Debian/Ubuntu .
As such , the packages must be renamed Iceweasle/Icedove/Iceape with new art .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have filed a bug under Debian where I am offering $250 if someone can get a .deb out before the end of next week.If you are not already aware, the Firefux/Thunderturd/Seamonkey art licensing prohibits it's use under Debian/Ubuntu.
As such, the packages must be renamed Iceweasle/Icedove/Iceape with new art.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914291</id>
	<title>Totally forgot this existed...</title>
	<author>sleekware</author>
	<datestamp>1256845860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Time to give SeaMonkey another shot!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Time to give SeaMonkey another shot !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Time to give SeaMonkey another shot!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914487</id>
	<title>Re:So...</title>
	<author>bryansj</author>
	<datestamp>1256846760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I use it.  My choices at work are IE8 or Seamonkey.  I had used Firefox until I got a nastygram from the admin about it being unauthorized.  I added on AdBlock and User Agent Switcher.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I use it .
My choices at work are IE8 or Seamonkey .
I had used Firefox until I got a nastygram from the admin about it being unauthorized .
I added on AdBlock and User Agent Switcher .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use it.
My choices at work are IE8 or Seamonkey.
I had used Firefox until I got a nastygram from the admin about it being unauthorized.
I added on AdBlock and User Agent Switcher.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914259</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29922553</id>
	<title>Companies care</title>
	<author>Ilgaz</author>
	<datestamp>1256910600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If Mozilla organization had some vision and asked themselves "why does companies choose MS/IBM (Lotus) based solutions instead of us?".</p><p>Yea, all uses a browser now and check their gmail/hotmail, that is how companies etc. work these days right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Mozilla organization had some vision and asked themselves " why does companies choose MS/IBM ( Lotus ) based solutions instead of us ?
" .Yea , all uses a browser now and check their gmail/hotmail , that is how companies etc .
work these days right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Mozilla organization had some vision and asked themselves "why does companies choose MS/IBM (Lotus) based solutions instead of us?
".Yea, all uses a browser now and check their gmail/hotmail, that is how companies etc.
work these days right?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914245</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29915227</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares anymore?</title>
	<author>buchner.johannes</author>
	<datestamp>1256849760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't see the benefit of using webmail instead of a client and IMAP? A client can give me notifications, and search faster. I can use it offline. And I can integrate all my mail accounts together.</p><p>There are plenty of very good mail programs out there, just choose the one that sucks the least (Sylpheed/Claws for me).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't see the benefit of using webmail instead of a client and IMAP ?
A client can give me notifications , and search faster .
I can use it offline .
And I can integrate all my mail accounts together.There are plenty of very good mail programs out there , just choose the one that sucks the least ( Sylpheed/Claws for me ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't see the benefit of using webmail instead of a client and IMAP?
A client can give me notifications, and search faster.
I can use it offline.
And I can integrate all my mail accounts together.There are plenty of very good mail programs out there, just choose the one that sucks the least (Sylpheed/Claws for me).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914245</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29919197</id>
	<title>Re:Totally forgot this existed...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256824500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A Headshot?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A Headshot ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A Headshot?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914291</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914289</id>
	<title>Really, you're OK with that?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256845860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>one crash every couple of hours is where we're setting the bar now?</p><p>if this was a Microsoft product you'd be outraged and laughing about the ridiculous uptime.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>one crash every couple of hours is where we 're setting the bar now ? if this was a Microsoft product you 'd be outraged and laughing about the ridiculous uptime .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>one crash every couple of hours is where we're setting the bar now?if this was a Microsoft product you'd be outraged and laughing about the ridiculous uptime.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914889</id>
	<title>Do you get like... 2 mails per day?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256848440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some of us are far more popular and have to deal with 3 or 4 emails per day. Bayesian based automatic tagging, filtering etc.</p><p>Webmail is king only for that 99\% who are clueless, which is good, it means I don't get bothered by them.</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some of us are far more popular and have to deal with 3 or 4 emails per day .
Bayesian based automatic tagging , filtering etc.Webmail is king only for that 99 \ % who are clueless , which is good , it means I do n't get bothered by them .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some of us are far more popular and have to deal with 3 or 4 emails per day.
Bayesian based automatic tagging, filtering etc.Webmail is king only for that 99\% who are clueless, which is good, it means I don't get bothered by them.
 </sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914245</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29915791</id>
	<title>The Real Question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256808720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The real question is, "If I start the browser and had more then 1 tab open does it take 5 years to load the ALL the pages (including slow ass ads on overloaded servers) and render the browser useless until it finishes loading, or I can actually use the browser in a reasonable amount of time after opening it."</p><p>If not, i'll just stick with Opera.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The real question is , " If I start the browser and had more then 1 tab open does it take 5 years to load the ALL the pages ( including slow ass ads on overloaded servers ) and render the browser useless until it finishes loading , or I can actually use the browser in a reasonable amount of time after opening it .
" If not , i 'll just stick with Opera .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The real question is, "If I start the browser and had more then 1 tab open does it take 5 years to load the ALL the pages (including slow ass ads on overloaded servers) and render the browser useless until it finishes loading, or I can actually use the browser in a reasonable amount of time after opening it.
"If not, i'll just stick with Opera.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29915905</id>
	<title>Yu0 faIl it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256809140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>you down. It was MAKES ME SICK JUST is perhaPs volume of NetBSD THEY'RE GONE CAME the most. LLok at code sharing are about 7000/5</htmltext>
<tokenext>you down .
It was MAKES ME SICK JUST is perhaPs volume of NetBSD THEY 'RE GONE CAME the most .
LLok at code sharing are about 7000/5</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you down.
It was MAKES ME SICK JUST is perhaPs volume of NetBSD THEY'RE GONE CAME the most.
LLok at code sharing are about 7000/5</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914391</id>
	<title>flash ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256846340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>it's crashed once -- but only once -- in several hours of use.</p></div><p>flash ?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>it 's crashed once -- but only once -- in several hours of use.flash ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it's crashed once -- but only once -- in several hours of use.flash ?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29922583</id>
	<title>Debian</title>
	<author>Ilgaz</author>
	<datestamp>1256910840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I love their attitude of being a purist, totally free, politically free distro... Oh wait! They allowed Mono junk to their distro for a simple note taking app right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I love their attitude of being a purist , totally free , politically free distro... Oh wait !
They allowed Mono junk to their distro for a simple note taking app right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love their attitude of being a purist, totally free, politically free distro... Oh wait!
They allowed Mono junk to their distro for a simple note taking app right?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29915237</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914667</id>
	<title>Integrated email?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256847480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder why an email client is integrated into a browser.</p><p>If Seamonkey is supposed to be a lightweight alternative to Firefox, having a built-in email client is a mistake. After that people will ask for built-in FTP, built-in Torrent, etc, etc.</p><p>Then you're at the same point as Firefox, which was supposed to be a lightweight alternative to Nescape.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder why an email client is integrated into a browser.If Seamonkey is supposed to be a lightweight alternative to Firefox , having a built-in email client is a mistake .
After that people will ask for built-in FTP , built-in Torrent , etc , etc.Then you 're at the same point as Firefox , which was supposed to be a lightweight alternative to Nescape .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder why an email client is integrated into a browser.If Seamonkey is supposed to be a lightweight alternative to Firefox, having a built-in email client is a mistake.
After that people will ask for built-in FTP, built-in Torrent, etc, etc.Then you're at the same point as Firefox, which was supposed to be a lightweight alternative to Nescape.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29915315</id>
	<title>chromium kills them all</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256806860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>already a lost battle when you see chromium outperforming from far FF. So seamonkey is few years late...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>already a lost battle when you see chromium outperforming from far FF .
So seamonkey is few years late.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>already a lost battle when you see chromium outperforming from far FF.
So seamonkey is few years late...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29917713</id>
	<title>Re:Why?!</title>
	<author>Frosty Piss</author>
	<datestamp>1256815800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>... for what reason do we need this all in one single application?</p></div><p>Because some people want it that way?<br> <br>There are a lot of alturnatives. If you're a Mozilla fan boy, just use FF if that's all you want. And of course there are always Safari, Chrome, Opera, and even IE...
<br> <br>
SeaMonkey might not be for you - don't use it. But it does have a feature set that clearly some people want. Just because it's Open Source, don't feel that you are *required* to use it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... for what reason do we need this all in one single application ? Because some people want it that way ?
There are a lot of alturnatives .
If you 're a Mozilla fan boy , just use FF if that 's all you want .
And of course there are always Safari , Chrome , Opera , and even IE.. . SeaMonkey might not be for you - do n't use it .
But it does have a feature set that clearly some people want .
Just because it 's Open Source , do n't feel that you are * required * to use it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ... for what reason do we need this all in one single application?Because some people want it that way?
There are a lot of alturnatives.
If you're a Mozilla fan boy, just use FF if that's all you want.
And of course there are always Safari, Chrome, Opera, and even IE...
 
SeaMonkey might not be for you - don't use it.
But it does have a feature set that clearly some people want.
Just because it's Open Source, don't feel that you are *required* to use it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914687</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29919125</id>
	<title>mini-review on OS X</title>
	<author>mattack2</author>
	<datestamp>1256824080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I tried it on Mac OS X.</p><p>1) You can't move the mailbox list to the right side.  (I know, that's "standard" for GUI mail programs nowadays, but I hate that interface.. the other two choices available aren't any more usable, IMHO.)<br>2) When I bring up the Preferences, the menubar except for the Apple menu &amp; app name went away -- not disabled, went away.  What the heck?<br>3) I can't change the toolbar style (icons, icons &amp; text, text only) via normal means -- control-click in the toolbar, nor go into Customize mode for the toolbar.<br>4) It was not obvious how to set up an account -- I expected that to be in the Preferences.<br>5) I think it expunged when I quit -- I had an alpine session running simultaneously (that's all kosher with IMAP).  Maybe that's an advanced setting (even for Mail.app, you can turn that kind of thing off).</p><p>I would love to have a GUI mail program that had even just #1.  GNUMail has it, but it starts up VERY slowly with a big mailbox.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I tried it on Mac OS X.1 ) You ca n't move the mailbox list to the right side .
( I know , that 's " standard " for GUI mail programs nowadays , but I hate that interface.. the other two choices available are n't any more usable , IMHO .
) 2 ) When I bring up the Preferences , the menubar except for the Apple menu &amp; app name went away -- not disabled , went away .
What the heck ? 3 ) I ca n't change the toolbar style ( icons , icons &amp; text , text only ) via normal means -- control-click in the toolbar , nor go into Customize mode for the toolbar.4 ) It was not obvious how to set up an account -- I expected that to be in the Preferences.5 ) I think it expunged when I quit -- I had an alpine session running simultaneously ( that 's all kosher with IMAP ) .
Maybe that 's an advanced setting ( even for Mail.app , you can turn that kind of thing off ) .I would love to have a GUI mail program that had even just # 1 .
GNUMail has it , but it starts up VERY slowly with a big mailbox .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I tried it on Mac OS X.1) You can't move the mailbox list to the right side.
(I know, that's "standard" for GUI mail programs nowadays, but I hate that interface.. the other two choices available aren't any more usable, IMHO.
)2) When I bring up the Preferences, the menubar except for the Apple menu &amp; app name went away -- not disabled, went away.
What the heck?3) I can't change the toolbar style (icons, icons &amp; text, text only) via normal means -- control-click in the toolbar, nor go into Customize mode for the toolbar.4) It was not obvious how to set up an account -- I expected that to be in the Preferences.5) I think it expunged when I quit -- I had an alpine session running simultaneously (that's all kosher with IMAP).
Maybe that's an advanced setting (even for Mail.app, you can turn that kind of thing off).I would love to have a GUI mail program that had even just #1.
GNUMail has it, but it starts up VERY slowly with a big mailbox.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29915603</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares anymore?</title>
	<author>Vu1turEMaN</author>
	<datestamp>1256807820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some people enjoy using Outlook even if webmail is king.</p><p>However, until Lightning and Thunderbird get a better overhaul, Seamonkey will never catch on. The calendar and mail interface is mediocre at best compared to Outlook 2007.</p><p>Its sad that we use Open Office at the nonprofit I work at, but still use Outlook.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some people enjoy using Outlook even if webmail is king.However , until Lightning and Thunderbird get a better overhaul , Seamonkey will never catch on .
The calendar and mail interface is mediocre at best compared to Outlook 2007.Its sad that we use Open Office at the nonprofit I work at , but still use Outlook .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some people enjoy using Outlook even if webmail is king.However, until Lightning and Thunderbird get a better overhaul, Seamonkey will never catch on.
The calendar and mail interface is mediocre at best compared to Outlook 2007.Its sad that we use Open Office at the nonprofit I work at, but still use Outlook.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914245</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29918575</id>
	<title>How to disable command-E (Edit Page)</title>
	<author>Megane</author>
	<datestamp>1256821260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The single most annoying misfeature to me with Seamonkey is that someone thought that editing pages in the web browser was such a heavily used feature that it deserved to be bound to a command key. Yeaaaah, no. Many times I have hit that stupid command-E by accident and had to interrupt my concentration to close it.
</p><p>I'm providing these instructions for those of you who agree that this is not only a pointless feature, but worse than pointless because it's annoying. So open up a Terminal window and get cracking!
</p><p> <tt>cd<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/Applications/SeaMonkey.app/Contents/MacOS/chrome</tt>
<br> <tt>open -e locale/en-US/navigator/navigator.dtd</tt>
</p><p>* find the three lines containing "editPageCmd"
<br>* remove the "E" character inside the quotes for accesskey and commandkey, but leave the quotes and everything else intact
<br>* save the file
</p><p> <tt>zip -r -q -n "" en-US.jar locale</tt>
</p><p>That's it. If you somehow messed up the file, Seamonkey will open up with only the Apple and application menus. Open up the file and try again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The single most annoying misfeature to me with Seamonkey is that someone thought that editing pages in the web browser was such a heavily used feature that it deserved to be bound to a command key .
Yeaaaah , no .
Many times I have hit that stupid command-E by accident and had to interrupt my concentration to close it .
I 'm providing these instructions for those of you who agree that this is not only a pointless feature , but worse than pointless because it 's annoying .
So open up a Terminal window and get cracking !
cd /Applications/SeaMonkey.app/Contents/MacOS/chrome open -e locale/en-US/navigator/navigator.dtd * find the three lines containing " editPageCmd " * remove the " E " character inside the quotes for accesskey and commandkey , but leave the quotes and everything else intact * save the file zip -r -q -n " " en-US.jar locale That 's it .
If you somehow messed up the file , Seamonkey will open up with only the Apple and application menus .
Open up the file and try again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The single most annoying misfeature to me with Seamonkey is that someone thought that editing pages in the web browser was such a heavily used feature that it deserved to be bound to a command key.
Yeaaaah, no.
Many times I have hit that stupid command-E by accident and had to interrupt my concentration to close it.
I'm providing these instructions for those of you who agree that this is not only a pointless feature, but worse than pointless because it's annoying.
So open up a Terminal window and get cracking!
cd /Applications/SeaMonkey.app/Contents/MacOS/chrome
 open -e locale/en-US/navigator/navigator.dtd
* find the three lines containing "editPageCmd"
* remove the "E" character inside the quotes for accesskey and commandkey, but leave the quotes and everything else intact
* save the file
 zip -r -q -n "" en-US.jar locale
That's it.
If you somehow messed up the file, Seamonkey will open up with only the Apple and application menus.
Open up the file and try again.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29915053</id>
	<title>What I use seamonkey for</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256849100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While Iuse Firefox 99.99\% of the time, I still use SeaMonkey for accessing sites that may be less 'safe'. That way I KNOW that my cookies, passwords and other info is protected, and I can quickly erase the cache and history of me ever visiting these unsafe sites.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While Iuse Firefox 99.99 \ % of the time , I still use SeaMonkey for accessing sites that may be less 'safe' .
That way I KNOW that my cookies , passwords and other info is protected , and I can quickly erase the cache and history of me ever visiting these unsafe sites .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While Iuse Firefox 99.99\% of the time, I still use SeaMonkey for accessing sites that may be less 'safe'.
That way I KNOW that my cookies, passwords and other info is protected, and I can quickly erase the cache and history of me ever visiting these unsafe sites.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29916465</id>
	<title>WARNING for users with several profiles</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256810880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When it asks you to import profiles, it will ONLY work if you select a profile that comes with Seamonkey i.e. default. This is not intuitive and counter to all previous upgrades.</p><p>You have to manual crate a new profile with the profile name you want, and then use the command line to import that ONE profile.</p><p>c:\\%APPATH\%\mozilla\seamonkey -P  -migration</p><p>The profile name is case sensitive and MUST be in dbl quotes.</p><p>This was a pain in the ass for people like me that have a profile for each person in their home. It's LAZY DEVELOPMENT and the should be ashamed of themselves.</p><p>I know, you're thinking 'So you have to got o the command line, so what?" well that's a deal killer for a lot of people. There is NO GOOD REASON why this is a manual process.<br>The documentation that explains this comes across as hubris and with a too damn bad attitude. People want to know why OS hasn't defeated MS? it's because of shit like this, I actually considered loading outlook.</p><p>No, this is NOT a troll or flame bait, it's facts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When it asks you to import profiles , it will ONLY work if you select a profile that comes with Seamonkey i.e .
default. This is not intuitive and counter to all previous upgrades.You have to manual crate a new profile with the profile name you want , and then use the command line to import that ONE profile.c : \ \ % APPATH \ % \ mozilla \ seamonkey -P -migrationThe profile name is case sensitive and MUST be in dbl quotes.This was a pain in the ass for people like me that have a profile for each person in their home .
It 's LAZY DEVELOPMENT and the should be ashamed of themselves.I know , you 're thinking 'So you have to got o the command line , so what ?
" well that 's a deal killer for a lot of people .
There is NO GOOD REASON why this is a manual process.The documentation that explains this comes across as hubris and with a too damn bad attitude .
People want to know why OS has n't defeated MS ?
it 's because of shit like this , I actually considered loading outlook.No , this is NOT a troll or flame bait , it 's facts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When it asks you to import profiles, it will ONLY work if you select a profile that comes with Seamonkey i.e.
default. This is not intuitive and counter to all previous upgrades.You have to manual crate a new profile with the profile name you want, and then use the command line to import that ONE profile.c:\\%APPATH\%\mozilla\seamonkey -P  -migrationThe profile name is case sensitive and MUST be in dbl quotes.This was a pain in the ass for people like me that have a profile for each person in their home.
It's LAZY DEVELOPMENT and the should be ashamed of themselves.I know, you're thinking 'So you have to got o the command line, so what?
" well that's a deal killer for a lot of people.
There is NO GOOD REASON why this is a manual process.The documentation that explains this comes across as hubris and with a too damn bad attitude.
People want to know why OS hasn't defeated MS?
it's because of shit like this, I actually considered loading outlook.No, this is NOT a troll or flame bait, it's facts.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29916499</id>
	<title>Re:Why?!</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1256811000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because a lot of people like having that integration.</p><p>You don't? Then use something else and quit whining.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because a lot of people like having that integration.You do n't ?
Then use something else and quit whining .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because a lot of people like having that integration.You don't?
Then use something else and quit whining.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914687</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29925977</id>
	<title>Mozilla Misconceptions</title>
	<author>dn15</author>
	<datestamp>1256926740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's painful how badly the original article frames the relationship between Firefox, Thunderbird and SeaMonkey. Here are a few basic facts about Firefox/Thunderbird/Mozilla, though not necessarily in exact chronological order...</p><p>- Netscape started Mozilla as an open source foundation on which future versions of Netscape would be based.<br>- The all-in-one browser suite was called Mozilla, and the rendering engine therein is Gecko.<br>- The Mozilla suite was the basis of Netscape 6 and 7.<br>- A browser-only version (Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox) was created.<br>- A mail/news-only version was also spun off as Thunderbird.<br>- Eventually Netscape 8 and 9 were also released, but based on Firefox rather than the suite.<br>- Thanks to the growing popularity of the standalone apps, the Mozilla suite was turned into an unsupported (by the organization/corporation, anyway) community project, and renamed to SeaMonkey to avoid confusion over who was developing it.</p><p>The main point to take away from this is Firefox and Thunderbird are based on SeaMonkey, not the other way around. A lot of code from Firefox and Thunderbird comes back to SeaMonkey, however, which is frequently a source of confusion for users.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's painful how badly the original article frames the relationship between Firefox , Thunderbird and SeaMonkey .
Here are a few basic facts about Firefox/Thunderbird/Mozilla , though not necessarily in exact chronological order...- Netscape started Mozilla as an open source foundation on which future versions of Netscape would be based.- The all-in-one browser suite was called Mozilla , and the rendering engine therein is Gecko.- The Mozilla suite was the basis of Netscape 6 and 7.- A browser-only version ( Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox ) was created.- A mail/news-only version was also spun off as Thunderbird.- Eventually Netscape 8 and 9 were also released , but based on Firefox rather than the suite.- Thanks to the growing popularity of the standalone apps , the Mozilla suite was turned into an unsupported ( by the organization/corporation , anyway ) community project , and renamed to SeaMonkey to avoid confusion over who was developing it.The main point to take away from this is Firefox and Thunderbird are based on SeaMonkey , not the other way around .
A lot of code from Firefox and Thunderbird comes back to SeaMonkey , however , which is frequently a source of confusion for users .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's painful how badly the original article frames the relationship between Firefox, Thunderbird and SeaMonkey.
Here are a few basic facts about Firefox/Thunderbird/Mozilla, though not necessarily in exact chronological order...- Netscape started Mozilla as an open source foundation on which future versions of Netscape would be based.- The all-in-one browser suite was called Mozilla, and the rendering engine therein is Gecko.- The Mozilla suite was the basis of Netscape 6 and 7.- A browser-only version (Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox) was created.- A mail/news-only version was also spun off as Thunderbird.- Eventually Netscape 8 and 9 were also released, but based on Firefox rather than the suite.- Thanks to the growing popularity of the standalone apps, the Mozilla suite was turned into an unsupported (by the organization/corporation, anyway) community project, and renamed to SeaMonkey to avoid confusion over who was developing it.The main point to take away from this is Firefox and Thunderbird are based on SeaMonkey, not the other way around.
A lot of code from Firefox and Thunderbird comes back to SeaMonkey, however, which is frequently a source of confusion for users.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29916177</id>
	<title>Re:Do you get like... 2 mails per day?</title>
	<author>mixmatch</author>
	<datestamp>1256809980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Whenever I've had to deal with multiple emails, I have used gmail's ability to download mail from other servers and tag them automatically for me...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Whenever I 've had to deal with multiple emails , I have used gmail 's ability to download mail from other servers and tag them automatically for me.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whenever I've had to deal with multiple emails, I have used gmail's ability to download mail from other servers and tag them automatically for me...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914889</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914853</id>
	<title>SeaMonkey Composer is the best...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256848320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>SeaMonkey Composer is the best way to make WYSIWYG, What You See Is What You Get, HTML files.

<br> <br>Unless, of course, you want to deal with the quirkiness and huge expense of Adobe Dreamweaver. Dreamweaver has more features, but SeaMonkey is usually all you need.

<br> <br>Use TsWebEditor for Tidying SeaMonkey HTML files.</htmltext>
<tokenext>SeaMonkey Composer is the best way to make WYSIWYG , What You See Is What You Get , HTML files .
Unless , of course , you want to deal with the quirkiness and huge expense of Adobe Dreamweaver .
Dreamweaver has more features , but SeaMonkey is usually all you need .
Use TsWebEditor for Tidying SeaMonkey HTML files .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SeaMonkey Composer is the best way to make WYSIWYG, What You See Is What You Get, HTML files.
Unless, of course, you want to deal with the quirkiness and huge expense of Adobe Dreamweaver.
Dreamweaver has more features, but SeaMonkey is usually all you need.
Use TsWebEditor for Tidying SeaMonkey HTML files.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914245</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29919087</id>
	<title>Re:Glad to see!</title>
	<author>BenoitRen</author>
	<datestamp>1256823840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Themes have always been under the View menu. Do you mean that now they don't have a presence in the Preferences anymore?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Themes have always been under the View menu .
Do you mean that now they do n't have a presence in the Preferences anymore ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Themes have always been under the View menu.
Do you mean that now they don't have a presence in the Preferences anymore?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29915033</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29915033</id>
	<title>Re:Glad to see!</title>
	<author>chebucto</author>
	<datestamp>1256848980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seems to be the same. The new-tab button is still in its fixed position on the left-hand side.</p><p>The interface looks the same, except for a few differences<br>- The classic theme button icons look more firefox-like and less netscape 3-like (bad thing, in my books). A theme can solve that.<br>- There is now an rss icon w/ drop-down list on the right hand side of the address bar. So far its been unobtrusive.<br>- The url-guessing algorithm has been changed; it's now supposed to guess based on URL and page title. Not sure how that will work out, though the algo used in v. 1.1 was imperfect IMHO.<br>- There is no longer an option for a Bookmarks button in the Personal Toolbar. Huzzah, one less preference to fix on new installs!<br>- Speaking of preferences, the Preferences window is more or less the same. The only difference I've found so far is that Themes are now set under the View menu</p><p>One thing worth noting is the History function - they now store number of visits, as well as a timestamp of the last visit, which means sorting history is way easier. The Download manager now has timestamps, too.</p><p>Overall, I'm happy</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems to be the same .
The new-tab button is still in its fixed position on the left-hand side.The interface looks the same , except for a few differences- The classic theme button icons look more firefox-like and less netscape 3-like ( bad thing , in my books ) .
A theme can solve that.- There is now an rss icon w/ drop-down list on the right hand side of the address bar .
So far its been unobtrusive.- The url-guessing algorithm has been changed ; it 's now supposed to guess based on URL and page title .
Not sure how that will work out , though the algo used in v. 1.1 was imperfect IMHO.- There is no longer an option for a Bookmarks button in the Personal Toolbar .
Huzzah , one less preference to fix on new installs ! - Speaking of preferences , the Preferences window is more or less the same .
The only difference I 've found so far is that Themes are now set under the View menuOne thing worth noting is the History function - they now store number of visits , as well as a timestamp of the last visit , which means sorting history is way easier .
The Download manager now has timestamps , too.Overall , I 'm happy</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems to be the same.
The new-tab button is still in its fixed position on the left-hand side.The interface looks the same, except for a few differences- The classic theme button icons look more firefox-like and less netscape 3-like (bad thing, in my books).
A theme can solve that.- There is now an rss icon w/ drop-down list on the right hand side of the address bar.
So far its been unobtrusive.- The url-guessing algorithm has been changed; it's now supposed to guess based on URL and page title.
Not sure how that will work out, though the algo used in v. 1.1 was imperfect IMHO.- There is no longer an option for a Bookmarks button in the Personal Toolbar.
Huzzah, one less preference to fix on new installs!- Speaking of preferences, the Preferences window is more or less the same.
The only difference I've found so far is that Themes are now set under the View menuOne thing worth noting is the History function - they now store number of visits, as well as a timestamp of the last visit, which means sorting history is way easier.
The Download manager now has timestamps, too.Overall, I'm happy</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914365</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29917177</id>
	<title>the CTRL-ALT-F Easter egg works in Seamonkey</title>
	<author>montulli</author>
	<datestamp>1256813580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Go <a href="http://www.fishcam.com/" title="fishcam.com" rel="nofollow">Fishcam!</a> [fishcam.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Go Fishcam !
[ fishcam.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Go Fishcam!
[fishcam.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29918545</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares anymore?</title>
	<author>mqduck</author>
	<datestamp>1256821140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Users need the flexibility to choose their own mail program.</p></div><p>They have that flexibility. They can use Firefox.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Besides, webmail is today's king.</p></div><p>I don't know about you, but I can't stand webmail.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Users need the flexibility to choose their own mail program.They have that flexibility .
They can use Firefox.Besides , webmail is today 's king.I do n't know about you , but I ca n't stand webmail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Users need the flexibility to choose their own mail program.They have that flexibility.
They can use Firefox.Besides, webmail is today's king.I don't know about you, but I can't stand webmail.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914245</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29925743</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares anymore?</title>
	<author>dn15</author>
	<datestamp>1256925540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Besides, webmail is today's king. This is why "Seamonkey" is often forgotten.</p></div><p>For many people webmail is king, but real desktop email clients still have a lot to offer. Even if I primarily used a webmail interface (which I don't), I would still want a desktop email app around for its ability to easily interact with other desktop applications -- for example handling attachments generated by your other apps to hand off to your mail client. Or even just the "Send Link" or equivalent menu item in your web browser to quickly email someone the address of the page you're viewing. Webmail has matured a lot in the last few years, but it lacks a certain level of polish that won't be possible until web apps become true peers of desktop software.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Besides , webmail is today 's king .
This is why " Seamonkey " is often forgotten.For many people webmail is king , but real desktop email clients still have a lot to offer .
Even if I primarily used a webmail interface ( which I do n't ) , I would still want a desktop email app around for its ability to easily interact with other desktop applications -- for example handling attachments generated by your other apps to hand off to your mail client .
Or even just the " Send Link " or equivalent menu item in your web browser to quickly email someone the address of the page you 're viewing .
Webmail has matured a lot in the last few years , but it lacks a certain level of polish that wo n't be possible until web apps become true peers of desktop software .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Besides, webmail is today's king.
This is why "Seamonkey" is often forgotten.For many people webmail is king, but real desktop email clients still have a lot to offer.
Even if I primarily used a webmail interface (which I don't), I would still want a desktop email app around for its ability to easily interact with other desktop applications -- for example handling attachments generated by your other apps to hand off to your mail client.
Or even just the "Send Link" or equivalent menu item in your web browser to quickly email someone the address of the page you're viewing.
Webmail has matured a lot in the last few years, but it lacks a certain level of polish that won't be possible until web apps become true peers of desktop software.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29914409</id>
	<title>hmm</title>
	<author>nomadic</author>
	<datestamp>1256846400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>I'm using the new release right now; it's crashed once -- but only once -- in several hours of use.</i>
<br>
<br>
In other words, it's even less reliable than the IE I'm reading this on?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm using the new release right now ; it 's crashed once -- but only once -- in several hours of use .
In other words , it 's even less reliable than the IE I 'm reading this on ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm using the new release right now; it's crashed once -- but only once -- in several hours of use.
In other words, it's even less reliable than the IE I'm reading this on?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29916157</id>
	<title>I think...</title>
	<author>Crashspeeder</author>
	<datestamp>1256809920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think I just threw up a little.  I hated Netscape more than I hate FF3.  I'll stick to FF2 and Google Chrome.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think I just threw up a little .
I hated Netscape more than I hate FF3 .
I 'll stick to FF2 and Google Chrome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think I just threw up a little.
I hated Netscape more than I hate FF3.
I'll stick to FF2 and Google Chrome.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29916649</id>
	<title>Re:Do you get like... 2 mails per day?</title>
	<author>Azureflare</author>
	<datestamp>1256811660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Huh. I guess you haven't used gmail then. It has some pretty nice tagging and filtering features that make it easy for me to filter at least 20 emails a day. They're not "bayesian" but that's usually a term reserved for spam filtering, of which gmail has in large supply.  And it works pretty well.

<br> <br>
After using spamassassin and evolution on linux, gmail has been pretty easy to use and effective. It also made it a lot easier to switch to a mac but that's besides the point.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Huh .
I guess you have n't used gmail then .
It has some pretty nice tagging and filtering features that make it easy for me to filter at least 20 emails a day .
They 're not " bayesian " but that 's usually a term reserved for spam filtering , of which gmail has in large supply .
And it works pretty well .
After using spamassassin and evolution on linux , gmail has been pretty easy to use and effective .
It also made it a lot easier to switch to a mac but that 's besides the point .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Huh.
I guess you haven't used gmail then.
It has some pretty nice tagging and filtering features that make it easy for me to filter at least 20 emails a day.
They're not "bayesian" but that's usually a term reserved for spam filtering, of which gmail has in large supply.
And it works pretty well.
After using spamassassin and evolution on linux, gmail has been pretty easy to use and effective.
It also made it a lot easier to switch to a mac but that's besides the point.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29923065</id>
	<title>Re:flash ?</title>
	<author>Picass0</author>
	<datestamp>1256914080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On linux platforms it is unstable because Flash and Pulse Audio do no play well. Firefox would be doing everyone a favor if they allowed users to block flash from sites the same way you can block images from specific servers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On linux platforms it is unstable because Flash and Pulse Audio do no play well .
Firefox would be doing everyone a favor if they allowed users to block flash from sites the same way you can block images from specific servers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On linux platforms it is unstable because Flash and Pulse Audio do no play well.
Firefox would be doing everyone a favor if they allowed users to block flash from sites the same way you can block images from specific servers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29915451</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29920481</id>
	<title>Re:Do you get like... 2 mails per day?</title>
	<author>Randle\_Revar</author>
	<datestamp>1256836020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I haven't found any email client that is as usable and nice as gmail.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have n't found any email client that is as usable and nice as gmail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I haven't found any email client that is as usable and nice as gmail.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_1845219.29915747</id>
	<title>Re:Do you get like... 2 mails per day?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256808540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Some of us are far more popular and have to deal with 3 or 4 emails per day. Bayesian based automatic tagging, filtering etc.</i></p><p>You get 3-4 emails <b>per day</b> and feel you absolutely must have "Bayesian based automatic tagging" and "filtering" to handle that veritable avalanche correspondence?  No offense, but I think your problems lie elsewhere...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some of us are far more popular and have to deal with 3 or 4 emails per day .
Bayesian based automatic tagging , filtering etc.You get 3-4 emails per day and feel you absolutely must have " Bayesian based automatic tagging " and " filtering " to handle that veritable avalanche correspondence ?
No offense , but I think your problems lie elsewhere.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some of us are far more popular and have to deal with 3 or 4 emails per day.
Bayesian based automatic tagging, filtering etc.You get 3-4 emails per day and feel you absolutely must have "Bayesian based automatic tagging" and "filtering" to handle that veritable avalanche correspondence?
No offense, but I think your problems lie elsewhere...</sentencetext>
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