<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_28_0032254</id>
	<title>AbiCollab Takes On Google Docs and Zoho Writer</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1256731380000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>msevior writes <i>"Just released today, the free software <a href="http://abisource.com/">AbiWord word processor</a>, employed by the One Laptop Per Child project, tightly integrates with <a href="http://abicollab.net/">a new collaboration Web site</a> to enable easy real-time collaborative editing of documents. AbiCollab.net also enables documents to be stored online, allows format conversion on the fly, stores the history of the docs in svn, provides direct links to HTML-ized docs that update as you save them, and allows easy sharing of docs amongst friends and groups. All in all, new competition for Google Docs and Zoho Writer, but featuring a real word processor rather than an app in a browser."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>msevior writes " Just released today , the free software AbiWord word processor , employed by the One Laptop Per Child project , tightly integrates with a new collaboration Web site to enable easy real-time collaborative editing of documents .
AbiCollab.net also enables documents to be stored online , allows format conversion on the fly , stores the history of the docs in svn , provides direct links to HTML-ized docs that update as you save them , and allows easy sharing of docs amongst friends and groups .
All in all , new competition for Google Docs and Zoho Writer , but featuring a real word processor rather than an app in a browser .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>msevior writes "Just released today, the free software AbiWord word processor, employed by the One Laptop Per Child project, tightly integrates with a new collaboration Web site to enable easy real-time collaborative editing of documents.
AbiCollab.net also enables documents to be stored online, allows format conversion on the fly, stores the history of the docs in svn, provides direct links to HTML-ized docs that update as you save them, and allows easy sharing of docs amongst friends and groups.
All in all, new competition for Google Docs and Zoho Writer, but featuring a real word processor rather than an app in a browser.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29897805</id>
	<title>Re:More Like Pride of Authorship</title>
	<author>SanityInAnarchy</author>
	<datestamp>1256746680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OpenOffice does seem to have better compatibility -- though, oddly, AbiWord seems to create much cleaner, more human-readable ODT files than OpenOffice.</p><p>The main advantage is that AbiWord was <i>much</i> lighter, partly because it's just a word processor. I used to use AbiWord for word processing, Gnumeric for spreadsheets, etc. Which doesn't matter to me anymore, now that OpenOffice starts in about two seconds for me, cold or hot.</p><p>The main other advantage of OpenOffice was stability -- AbiWord used to crash a lot, but that seems to have gotten better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OpenOffice does seem to have better compatibility -- though , oddly , AbiWord seems to create much cleaner , more human-readable ODT files than OpenOffice.The main advantage is that AbiWord was much lighter , partly because it 's just a word processor .
I used to use AbiWord for word processing , Gnumeric for spreadsheets , etc .
Which does n't matter to me anymore , now that OpenOffice starts in about two seconds for me , cold or hot.The main other advantage of OpenOffice was stability -- AbiWord used to crash a lot , but that seems to have gotten better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OpenOffice does seem to have better compatibility -- though, oddly, AbiWord seems to create much cleaner, more human-readable ODT files than OpenOffice.The main advantage is that AbiWord was much lighter, partly because it's just a word processor.
I used to use AbiWord for word processing, Gnumeric for spreadsheets, etc.
Which doesn't matter to me anymore, now that OpenOffice starts in about two seconds for me, cold or hot.The main other advantage of OpenOffice was stability -- AbiWord used to crash a lot, but that seems to have gotten better.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895513</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895707</id>
	<title>Re:Does anyone actually *want* collaborative softw</title>
	<author>blakelarson</author>
	<datestamp>1256737860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>
Works great during a teleconference when you're actually trying to get something done together (and not just useless reports).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Works great during a teleconference when you 're actually trying to get something done together ( and not just useless reports ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Works great during a teleconference when you're actually trying to get something done together (and not just useless reports).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895531</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895513</id>
	<title>More Like Pride of Authorship</title>
	<author>RobotRunAmok</author>
	<datestamp>1256736360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The submitter, msevior, is one of the Abiword devs, long-term.</p><p>I used Abiword several years back.  I think I used every linux word processor ever made for a while several years back.  Finally settled with Open's.  Think it was because of compatibility issues with the rest of the world (the Real one, the one I live in) who used MS, I honestly can't recall.  Has Abiword gotten better in that regard?  I do know that I'm a bit too far down the road with Open, which has garnered a satisfying momentum and robustness in its own right, to switch now.  Unless Abiword is a helluva lot less expensive than Open.  Oh yeah, they're both free.  Never mind.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The submitter , msevior , is one of the Abiword devs , long-term.I used Abiword several years back .
I think I used every linux word processor ever made for a while several years back .
Finally settled with Open 's .
Think it was because of compatibility issues with the rest of the world ( the Real one , the one I live in ) who used MS , I honestly ca n't recall .
Has Abiword gotten better in that regard ?
I do know that I 'm a bit too far down the road with Open , which has garnered a satisfying momentum and robustness in its own right , to switch now .
Unless Abiword is a helluva lot less expensive than Open .
Oh yeah , they 're both free .
Never mind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The submitter, msevior, is one of the Abiword devs, long-term.I used Abiword several years back.
I think I used every linux word processor ever made for a while several years back.
Finally settled with Open's.
Think it was because of compatibility issues with the rest of the world (the Real one, the one I live in) who used MS, I honestly can't recall.
Has Abiword gotten better in that regard?
I do know that I'm a bit too far down the road with Open, which has garnered a satisfying momentum and robustness in its own right, to switch now.
Unless Abiword is a helluva lot less expensive than Open.
Oh yeah, they're both free.
Never mind.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895377</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29896263</id>
	<title>Re:Is it me alone...</title>
	<author>Daengbo</author>
	<datestamp>1256740680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I tried to move from G.A. to Zoho, but Zoho ate my work three times in two days.I showed up at my presentations only to find the files were corrupted on Zoho's servers. That takes away the only reason to use a web-based office app.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I tried to move from G.A .
to Zoho , but Zoho ate my work three times in two days.I showed up at my presentations only to find the files were corrupted on Zoho 's servers .
That takes away the only reason to use a web-based office app .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I tried to move from G.A.
to Zoho, but Zoho ate my work three times in two days.I showed up at my presentations only to find the files were corrupted on Zoho's servers.
That takes away the only reason to use a web-based office app.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895579</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895461</id>
	<title>Re:Slashvertisement!</title>
	<author>int69h</author>
	<datestamp>1256735880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought the poster was pretty clear.  Not everyone is anxious to return to the dumb terminal days, and apparently the poster is one of those people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought the poster was pretty clear .
Not everyone is anxious to return to the dumb terminal days , and apparently the poster is one of those people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought the poster was pretty clear.
Not everyone is anxious to return to the dumb terminal days, and apparently the poster is one of those people.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895377</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895579</id>
	<title>Is it me alone...</title>
	<author>bogaboga</author>
	<datestamp>1256736780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...who finds that Google Docs sucks big-time? Compared to Zoho's, Google Docs does not come close save for is new equation editor. Who disagrees?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...who finds that Google Docs sucks big-time ?
Compared to Zoho 's , Google Docs does not come close save for is new equation editor .
Who disagrees ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...who finds that Google Docs sucks big-time?
Compared to Zoho's, Google Docs does not come close save for is new equation editor.
Who disagrees?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895869</id>
	<title>Waste of time</title>
	<author>anand78</author>
	<datestamp>1256738760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>WTF, I tried creating a document"BAM" I get blank. I tried again BAM blank. Frantically hit backspace to go to slashdot. Woohoo Both the documents there. I tried to view the document. WTF is a collabnet document. Nice try but a lame attempt.</htmltext>
<tokenext>WTF , I tried creating a document " BAM " I get blank .
I tried again BAM blank .
Frantically hit backspace to go to slashdot .
Woohoo Both the documents there .
I tried to view the document .
WTF is a collabnet document .
Nice try but a lame attempt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WTF, I tried creating a document"BAM" I get blank.
I tried again BAM blank.
Frantically hit backspace to go to slashdot.
Woohoo Both the documents there.
I tried to view the document.
WTF is a collabnet document.
Nice try but a lame attempt.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29897321</id>
	<title>Flash buttons for login and register?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256744820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can't they use CSS instead of closed source technology to make 2 buttons? sad</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ca n't they use CSS instead of closed source technology to make 2 buttons ?
sad</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can't they use CSS instead of closed source technology to make 2 buttons?
sad</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895429</id>
	<title>Returning the post</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256735700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>For some time now I have lamented the fact that major issues are overlooked while many<br>
unnecessary posts come to me for consideration. Slashvertisements, Bugs, bad posts, good <br>
car analogies are major issues my Administration has brought to the table, but the mods just<br>
kicks the can down the alley.<br> <br>

Yet another techie year has come and gone without the major reforms slashdot readers<br>
overwhlmingly deserve. In light of this and after careful consideration I believe it is<br>
unnecessary to sign this measure at this time
<br> <br> <br>
Sincerely,
<br> <br>
Arnold Moderator</htmltext>
<tokenext>For some time now I have lamented the fact that major issues are overlooked while many unnecessary posts come to me for consideration .
Slashvertisements , Bugs , bad posts , good car analogies are major issues my Administration has brought to the table , but the mods just kicks the can down the alley .
Yet another techie year has come and gone without the major reforms slashdot readers overwhlmingly deserve .
In light of this and after careful consideration I believe it is unnecessary to sign this measure at this time Sincerely , Arnold Moderator</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For some time now I have lamented the fact that major issues are overlooked while many
unnecessary posts come to me for consideration.
Slashvertisements, Bugs, bad posts, good 
car analogies are major issues my Administration has brought to the table, but the mods just
kicks the can down the alley.
Yet another techie year has come and gone without the major reforms slashdot readers
overwhlmingly deserve.
In light of this and after careful consideration I believe it is
unnecessary to sign this measure at this time
  
Sincerely,
 
Arnold Moderator</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29899467</id>
	<title>Re:Slashvertisement!</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1256753880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Read it as, "It's Office Live, but not Microsoft!"</p><p>Though, I'd like to see a good argument that Google Docs isn't a "real" word processor. Did I just imagine it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Read it as , " It 's Office Live , but not Microsoft !
" Though , I 'd like to see a good argument that Google Docs is n't a " real " word processor .
Did I just imagine it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Read it as, "It's Office Live, but not Microsoft!
"Though, I'd like to see a good argument that Google Docs isn't a "real" word processor.
Did I just imagine it?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895377</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895611</id>
	<title>creators take on unprecedented evile et al</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256737080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>due to the extensive use of newclear power as part of the creators' planet/population rescue initiative/mandate, it's no contest.</p><p>the lights are coming up all over now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>due to the extensive use of newclear power as part of the creators ' planet/population rescue initiative/mandate , it 's no contest.the lights are coming up all over now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>due to the extensive use of newclear power as part of the creators' planet/population rescue initiative/mandate, it's no contest.the lights are coming up all over now.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895657</id>
	<title>Re:Does anyone actually *want* collaborative softw</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256737560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Usually the collaborative white coards have the the rich features you can find on abiword.  Try "real" documents 100+ pages on another collaborative tools.</p><p>Sometimes you edit a wikipedia article and lost the changes because other people was working on the same article.  This shows that is better to have real time collaboration.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Usually the collaborative white coards have the the rich features you can find on abiword .
Try " real " documents 100 + pages on another collaborative tools.Sometimes you edit a wikipedia article and lost the changes because other people was working on the same article .
This shows that is better to have real time collaboration .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Usually the collaborative white coards have the the rich features you can find on abiword.
Try "real" documents 100+ pages on another collaborative tools.Sometimes you edit a wikipedia article and lost the changes because other people was working on the same article.
This shows that is better to have real time collaboration.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895531</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895457</id>
	<title>Re:Slashvertisement!</title>
	<author>1155</author>
	<datestamp>1256735820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It means the person who wrote this is sick of web "applications", and prefers desktop applications. Like most sane people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It means the person who wrote this is sick of web " applications " , and prefers desktop applications .
Like most sane people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It means the person who wrote this is sick of web "applications", and prefers desktop applications.
Like most sane people.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895377</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895929</id>
	<title>Re:Does anyone actually *want* collaborative softw</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256739120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you have ever worked on a large project with multiple inputs, you'd know about the current problems and how much of a godsend collab environments are.</p><p>Prototyping with such interfaces is incredibly useful. (if the interface itself is good)<br>Designers, article writers, magazines, project management, programming, etc.</p><p>Also, please remember that collaborative editing doesn't mean people making penis drawings over your most recent edit...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you have ever worked on a large project with multiple inputs , you 'd know about the current problems and how much of a godsend collab environments are.Prototyping with such interfaces is incredibly useful .
( if the interface itself is good ) Designers , article writers , magazines , project management , programming , etc.Also , please remember that collaborative editing does n't mean people making penis drawings over your most recent edit.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you have ever worked on a large project with multiple inputs, you'd know about the current problems and how much of a godsend collab environments are.Prototyping with such interfaces is incredibly useful.
(if the interface itself is good)Designers, article writers, magazines, project management, programming, etc.Also, please remember that collaborative editing doesn't mean people making penis drawings over your most recent edit...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895531</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29896285</id>
	<title>Re:Slashvertisement!</title>
	<author>buchner.johannes</author>
	<datestamp>1256740740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wouldn't say it is a slashvertisement, it isn't even commercial. It presents a new product that does something in a slightly different way than existing ones. I would welcome more presentations of young, "innovative" startup software ideas instead of circling around Google, Microsoft and Apple.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would n't say it is a slashvertisement , it is n't even commercial .
It presents a new product that does something in a slightly different way than existing ones .
I would welcome more presentations of young , " innovative " startup software ideas instead of circling around Google , Microsoft and Apple .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wouldn't say it is a slashvertisement, it isn't even commercial.
It presents a new product that does something in a slightly different way than existing ones.
I would welcome more presentations of young, "innovative" startup software ideas instead of circling around Google, Microsoft and Apple.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895377</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29896777</id>
	<title>EP!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256742720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">SLING you can 4latform for the for a moment and the point more</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>SLING you can 4latform for the for a moment and the point more [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SLING you can 4latform for the for a moment and the point more [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29899639</id>
	<title>Re:Is it me alone...</title>
	<author>drizek</author>
	<datestamp>1256754480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The whole point of using a web based document editor is convenience. Google Docs is the most convenient, and for when I want features, I use Pages on my mac or Word 2007 on my desktop or openoffice.org if I'm in the mood. The point is, Zoho won't ever get anywhere near the features of full on desktop apps, and won't be as convenient as Google.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The whole point of using a web based document editor is convenience .
Google Docs is the most convenient , and for when I want features , I use Pages on my mac or Word 2007 on my desktop or openoffice.org if I 'm in the mood .
The point is , Zoho wo n't ever get anywhere near the features of full on desktop apps , and wo n't be as convenient as Google .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The whole point of using a web based document editor is convenience.
Google Docs is the most convenient, and for when I want features, I use Pages on my mac or Word 2007 on my desktop or openoffice.org if I'm in the mood.
The point is, Zoho won't ever get anywhere near the features of full on desktop apps, and won't be as convenient as Google.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895579</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29897679</id>
	<title>I would personally be more interested in this</title>
	<author>jockm</author>
	<datestamp>1256746260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If there were a remotely current version of AbiWord for OS X.  Sadly that part of their development dropped by the wayside quite some time ago.</p><p>AbiWord is currently at 2.8 for Windows and Linux, but 2.4.x for OS X.  That is two major versions behind, and call be crazy but I kinda want some of the things that have been added.</p><p>I used to use AbiWord a lot.  It was small and fast and mimiced the way Office did it's tool pallets on the Mac.  So AbiWord would be where documents tented to start with me, when formatting needed to be more elaborate, then I would move to Office.</p><p>Now I just use Office all the time.  OpenOffice is finally an acceptable OS X citizen, but it isn't great.  For me at least, the price of it is the only compelling reason to like OpenOffice, but that is about all.  In terms of features and feel, I am sorry but all I can say is not yet...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If there were a remotely current version of AbiWord for OS X. Sadly that part of their development dropped by the wayside quite some time ago.AbiWord is currently at 2.8 for Windows and Linux , but 2.4.x for OS X. That is two major versions behind , and call be crazy but I kinda want some of the things that have been added.I used to use AbiWord a lot .
It was small and fast and mimiced the way Office did it 's tool pallets on the Mac .
So AbiWord would be where documents tented to start with me , when formatting needed to be more elaborate , then I would move to Office.Now I just use Office all the time .
OpenOffice is finally an acceptable OS X citizen , but it is n't great .
For me at least , the price of it is the only compelling reason to like OpenOffice , but that is about all .
In terms of features and feel , I am sorry but all I can say is not yet.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If there were a remotely current version of AbiWord for OS X.  Sadly that part of their development dropped by the wayside quite some time ago.AbiWord is currently at 2.8 for Windows and Linux, but 2.4.x for OS X.  That is two major versions behind, and call be crazy but I kinda want some of the things that have been added.I used to use AbiWord a lot.
It was small and fast and mimiced the way Office did it's tool pallets on the Mac.
So AbiWord would be where documents tented to start with me, when formatting needed to be more elaborate, then I would move to Office.Now I just use Office all the time.
OpenOffice is finally an acceptable OS X citizen, but it isn't great.
For me at least, the price of it is the only compelling reason to like OpenOffice, but that is about all.
In terms of features and feel, I am sorry but all I can say is not yet...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29896639</id>
	<title>Re:Does anyone actually *want* collaborative softw</title>
	<author>buchner.johannes</author>
	<datestamp>1256742120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Right, emailing documents and files across is enough for everyone. Oh, nevermind that is limited to 10/20 MB.  Oh, you end up a mess of versions. Not everyone can setup and use a VCS, particularly not end-users.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Right , emailing documents and files across is enough for everyone .
Oh , nevermind that is limited to 10/20 MB .
Oh , you end up a mess of versions .
Not everyone can setup and use a VCS , particularly not end-users .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right, emailing documents and files across is enough for everyone.
Oh, nevermind that is limited to 10/20 MB.
Oh, you end up a mess of versions.
Not everyone can setup and use a VCS, particularly not end-users.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895531</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29903637</id>
	<title>Re:Is it me alone...</title>
	<author>zuperduperman</author>
	<datestamp>1256729700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hear you.</p><p>I'm currently working with a company that uses Google Docs for everything, and I've come to the conclusion that Google Docs itself is one of the major reasons that they've completely failed to ship a product despite 4 years of continuous effort (I know this sounds a bizarre thing to say, but it's true).    Google docs is wonderful and seductive for collaboration, but it is worse than useless for writing any kind of serious documentation.   It lacks so many serious features it destroys the integrity of every document put into it and turns them into one-off memos with a hundred "spam" comments from stakeholders riddled through them and / or surreptitiously changed.   Nobody draws diagrams because docs won't support them, no tables of contents, bibiliographies, footnotes, proper cross references, heading numbers, no proper "track changes"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...   There are features to mitigate some of these things, but in the end, it's not enough - Google Docs is a disaster for serious documents that need to be part of controlled processes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hear you.I 'm currently working with a company that uses Google Docs for everything , and I 've come to the conclusion that Google Docs itself is one of the major reasons that they 've completely failed to ship a product despite 4 years of continuous effort ( I know this sounds a bizarre thing to say , but it 's true ) .
Google docs is wonderful and seductive for collaboration , but it is worse than useless for writing any kind of serious documentation .
It lacks so many serious features it destroys the integrity of every document put into it and turns them into one-off memos with a hundred " spam " comments from stakeholders riddled through them and / or surreptitiously changed .
Nobody draws diagrams because docs wo n't support them , no tables of contents , bibiliographies , footnotes , proper cross references , heading numbers , no proper " track changes " ... There are features to mitigate some of these things , but in the end , it 's not enough - Google Docs is a disaster for serious documents that need to be part of controlled processes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hear you.I'm currently working with a company that uses Google Docs for everything, and I've come to the conclusion that Google Docs itself is one of the major reasons that they've completely failed to ship a product despite 4 years of continuous effort (I know this sounds a bizarre thing to say, but it's true).
Google docs is wonderful and seductive for collaboration, but it is worse than useless for writing any kind of serious documentation.
It lacks so many serious features it destroys the integrity of every document put into it and turns them into one-off memos with a hundred "spam" comments from stakeholders riddled through them and / or surreptitiously changed.
Nobody draws diagrams because docs won't support them, no tables of contents, bibiliographies, footnotes, proper cross references, heading numbers, no proper "track changes" ...   There are features to mitigate some of these things, but in the end, it's not enough - Google Docs is a disaster for serious documents that need to be part of controlled processes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895579</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29899441</id>
	<title>Re:Flash buttons for login and register?</title>
	<author>megabyte405</author>
	<datestamp>1256753820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, if you look at the source of the page, you can see that the designers apparently used a flash text image replacement technique for all the "spiffy" ui elements.  This is a common technique among some of the most standards-aware web designers today, certainly not an anomaly.  The code itself is clean, and if you look at the page without flash, you don't get flash buttons.  Just checked it, and the page still looks and works fine with no-script blocking javascript and flash.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , if you look at the source of the page , you can see that the designers apparently used a flash text image replacement technique for all the " spiffy " ui elements .
This is a common technique among some of the most standards-aware web designers today , certainly not an anomaly .
The code itself is clean , and if you look at the page without flash , you do n't get flash buttons .
Just checked it , and the page still looks and works fine with no-script blocking javascript and flash .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, if you look at the source of the page, you can see that the designers apparently used a flash text image replacement technique for all the "spiffy" ui elements.
This is a common technique among some of the most standards-aware web designers today, certainly not an anomaly.
The code itself is clean, and if you look at the page without flash, you don't get flash buttons.
Just checked it, and the page still looks and works fine with no-script blocking javascript and flash.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29897321</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895751</id>
	<title>articles/reports/project proposals</title>
	<author>excelsior\_gr</author>
	<datestamp>1256738100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Have you ever tried to write a document like an article with many co-authors, an interdisciplinary project report or proposal? Being able to simultaneously change the document saves a LOT of time. Over here, we go with LaTeX and SVN.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you ever tried to write a document like an article with many co-authors , an interdisciplinary project report or proposal ?
Being able to simultaneously change the document saves a LOT of time .
Over here , we go with LaTeX and SVN .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you ever tried to write a document like an article with many co-authors, an interdisciplinary project report or proposal?
Being able to simultaneously change the document saves a LOT of time.
Over here, we go with LaTeX and SVN.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895531</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29899693</id>
	<title>Re:I would personally be more interested in this</title>
	<author>megabyte405</author>
	<datestamp>1256754660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We've only got one mac dev, and his ability and desire to work on the port varies.  On the plus side, he recently gave it a lot of love, and the source is getting there but not quite ready for you slashdotters to go bang on it<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-P  If you've got any os x dev skills, drop by the mailing list and lend a hand.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 've only got one mac dev , and his ability and desire to work on the port varies .
On the plus side , he recently gave it a lot of love , and the source is getting there but not quite ready for you slashdotters to go bang on it : -P If you 've got any os x dev skills , drop by the mailing list and lend a hand .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We've only got one mac dev, and his ability and desire to work on the port varies.
On the plus side, he recently gave it a lot of love, and the source is getting there but not quite ready for you slashdotters to go bang on it :-P  If you've got any os x dev skills, drop by the mailing list and lend a hand.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29897679</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895981</id>
	<title>didn't we already</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256739300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Abi Collab? Didn't we already get him back in 2005 or so?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Abi Collab ?
Did n't we already get him back in 2005 or so ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Abi Collab?
Didn't we already get him back in 2005 or so?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29899243</id>
	<title>Re:Slashvertisement!</title>
	<author>megabyte405</author>
	<datestamp>1256752920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As anonymous posted before, the "plugin" is not a web browser plugin.  AbiWord is a regular application.  AbiCollab is a recent feature (debuted in 2.6, much improved in 2.8) allowing real-time collaboration between as many people as you want, over a variety of protocols.  AbiCollab.net is a new web service that offers remote document storage, history, conversion, etc, that can also produce ".abicollab" files that, when saved and opened by your local copy of AbiWord (which is what happens when you click the edit link on the web), cause AbiWord to join a centrally-hosted collaboration session on that remote document.   No browser magic is required: some server magic and abiword local magic takes place, but it's all very streamlined.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As anonymous posted before , the " plugin " is not a web browser plugin .
AbiWord is a regular application .
AbiCollab is a recent feature ( debuted in 2.6 , much improved in 2.8 ) allowing real-time collaboration between as many people as you want , over a variety of protocols .
AbiCollab.net is a new web service that offers remote document storage , history , conversion , etc , that can also produce " .abicollab " files that , when saved and opened by your local copy of AbiWord ( which is what happens when you click the edit link on the web ) , cause AbiWord to join a centrally-hosted collaboration session on that remote document .
No browser magic is required : some server magic and abiword local magic takes place , but it 's all very streamlined .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As anonymous posted before, the "plugin" is not a web browser plugin.
AbiWord is a regular application.
AbiCollab is a recent feature (debuted in 2.6, much improved in 2.8) allowing real-time collaboration between as many people as you want, over a variety of protocols.
AbiCollab.net is a new web service that offers remote document storage, history, conversion, etc, that can also produce ".abicollab" files that, when saved and opened by your local copy of AbiWord (which is what happens when you click the edit link on the web), cause AbiWord to join a centrally-hosted collaboration session on that remote document.
No browser magic is required: some server magic and abiword local magic takes place, but it's all very streamlined.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29896265</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895531</id>
	<title>Does anyone actually *want* collaborative software</title>
	<author>RMH101</author>
	<datestamp>1256736480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seriously, "collaborative whiteboards" and multi-user editing environments have been around since early Netscape Communicator days - but does anyone actually use or want them?  Sure, a system for checking out documents so several people can make changes, but simultaneous editing of documents - what's the use case for them?  Who's asking for this?  Who's even using it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , " collaborative whiteboards " and multi-user editing environments have been around since early Netscape Communicator days - but does anyone actually use or want them ?
Sure , a system for checking out documents so several people can make changes , but simultaneous editing of documents - what 's the use case for them ?
Who 's asking for this ?
Who 's even using it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, "collaborative whiteboards" and multi-user editing environments have been around since early Netscape Communicator days - but does anyone actually use or want them?
Sure, a system for checking out documents so several people can make changes, but simultaneous editing of documents - what's the use case for them?
Who's asking for this?
Who's even using it?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29896137</id>
	<title>Re:Is it me alone...</title>
	<author>AP31R0N</author>
	<datestamp>1256740080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i've found GDocs useful for sharing, but not a viable competitor to MSO or ever OO.o (in terms of features).  Based on your post, i've created a Zoho account and will give it a try.  i use GDocs mostly for its integration into all my other Google stuff.  It's convenient to be in my GMail account and then hit Documents, and there i am.  Getting my friends to go to yet another site to share stuff might annoy me and my friends, as made up as they are.</p><p>What i'd really love is for docs and email to be seamless *cough* GWave *cough*.  But i don't have an invite yet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i 've found GDocs useful for sharing , but not a viable competitor to MSO or ever OO.o ( in terms of features ) .
Based on your post , i 've created a Zoho account and will give it a try .
i use GDocs mostly for its integration into all my other Google stuff .
It 's convenient to be in my GMail account and then hit Documents , and there i am .
Getting my friends to go to yet another site to share stuff might annoy me and my friends , as made up as they are.What i 'd really love is for docs and email to be seamless * cough * GWave * cough * .
But i do n't have an invite yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i've found GDocs useful for sharing, but not a viable competitor to MSO or ever OO.o (in terms of features).
Based on your post, i've created a Zoho account and will give it a try.
i use GDocs mostly for its integration into all my other Google stuff.
It's convenient to be in my GMail account and then hit Documents, and there i am.
Getting my friends to go to yet another site to share stuff might annoy me and my friends, as made up as they are.What i'd really love is for docs and email to be seamless *cough* GWave *cough*.
But i don't have an invite yet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895579</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29899567</id>
	<title>does this mean...</title>
	<author>Nekomusume</author>
	<datestamp>1256754240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does this mean that Abiword may finally fix the bugs that make it a bloody pain to use? I swear, every time I've tried it, it was like pulling teeth.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does this mean that Abiword may finally fix the bugs that make it a bloody pain to use ?
I swear , every time I 've tried it , it was like pulling teeth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does this mean that Abiword may finally fix the bugs that make it a bloody pain to use?
I swear, every time I've tried it, it was like pulling teeth.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895363</id>
	<title>Who cares?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256735040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895377</id>
	<title>Slashvertisement!</title>
	<author>shashark</author>
	<datestamp>1256735220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>"...but featuring a real word processor <b>rather than an app in a browser</b>"<br>
Seriously, what on earth is that supposed to mean ?</htmltext>
<tokenext>" ...but featuring a real word processor rather than an app in a browser " Seriously , what on earth is that supposed to mean ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"...but featuring a real word processor rather than an app in a browser"
Seriously, what on earth is that supposed to mean ?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29899761</id>
	<title>EyeOS 2.0</title>
	<author>AVryhof</author>
	<datestamp>1256754900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm just waiting for EyeOS 2.0 (<a href="http://eyeos.org/" title="eyeos.org">http://eyeos.org/</a> [eyeos.org]) to come out.  Look at the preview of EyeDocs (<a href="http://blog.eyeos.org/2009/10/09/introducing-eyedocs-2/" title="eyeos.org">http://blog.eyeos.org/2009/10/09/introducing-eyedocs-2/</a> [eyeos.org])<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and with the right configuration it can save OpenDocument files.</p><p>Best of all...it's self hosted!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm just waiting for EyeOS 2.0 ( http : //eyeos.org/ [ eyeos.org ] ) to come out .
Look at the preview of EyeDocs ( http : //blog.eyeos.org/2009/10/09/introducing-eyedocs-2/ [ eyeos.org ] ) ... and with the right configuration it can save OpenDocument files.Best of all...it 's self hosted !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm just waiting for EyeOS 2.0 (http://eyeos.org/ [eyeos.org]) to come out.
Look at the preview of EyeDocs (http://blog.eyeos.org/2009/10/09/introducing-eyedocs-2/ [eyeos.org]) ... and with the right configuration it can save OpenDocument files.Best of all...it's self hosted!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29896121</id>
	<title>Re:Does anyone actually *want* collaborative softw</title>
	<author>ferd\_farkle</author>
	<datestamp>1256740020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, collaborative, multi-user editing environments have been around a bit longer than "Netscape Communicator days". It was the purpose of that Berners-Lee fellpw's application, 'The World Wide Web'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , collaborative , multi-user editing environments have been around a bit longer than " Netscape Communicator days " .
It was the purpose of that Berners-Lee fellpw 's application , 'The World Wide Web' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, collaborative, multi-user editing environments have been around a bit longer than "Netscape Communicator days".
It was the purpose of that Berners-Lee fellpw's application, 'The World Wide Web'.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895531</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29931251</id>
	<title>Re:It's a locked in EXTERNAL web site, no thanks.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256913720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Abiword can use direct TCP peer to peer collaboration without use the web service.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Abiword can use direct TCP peer to peer collaboration without use the web service .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Abiword can use direct TCP peer to peer collaboration without use the web service.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895561</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29897581</id>
	<title>Re:Does anyone actually *want* collaborative softw</title>
	<author>akorvemaker</author>
	<datestamp>1256745840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When we were trying to plan our wedding from two different countries, collaborative documents were extremely useful. We could both add things, review what the other was doing, and keep everything in a single place. It kept everything simple and easy.</p><p>While not everyone needs collaborative editing, it is extremely useful in some situations.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When we were trying to plan our wedding from two different countries , collaborative documents were extremely useful .
We could both add things , review what the other was doing , and keep everything in a single place .
It kept everything simple and easy.While not everyone needs collaborative editing , it is extremely useful in some situations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When we were trying to plan our wedding from two different countries, collaborative documents were extremely useful.
We could both add things, review what the other was doing, and keep everything in a single place.
It kept everything simple and easy.While not everyone needs collaborative editing, it is extremely useful in some situations.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895531</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895965</id>
	<title>Re:Does anyone actually *want* collaborative softw</title>
	<author>Metsys</author>
	<datestamp>1256739240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We are.</p><p>We've been having to use Gobby for collaborative writing because it's the only secure way for us to do writing sessions online. Sure, having some text formatting in a program like that would be nice, but we've been copying the Gobby sessions over to our Wiki and the formatting is done there anyway, so there isn't much of a need for that but it still would be nice for future projects.</p><p>Even down the road when we can afford to relocate and work in the same building instead of having all our studio members living in different states, we are still going to do our writing sessions with some kind of real-time collaborative writing software. You have no idea how much easier it is to make changes yourself instead of pointing at someone's screen telling them what to type, or how much faster you can both write when you can both be working on different parts of the script at the same time, or having someone edit your mistakes immediately. When you are actually discussing the story constantly with a co-writer, you really want software like this.</p><p>As for whiteboards, we'd really like to have the same real-time collaborative editing that we enjoy with Gobby for our design and art production as well. We've tried things like OpenCanvas or those online paint chat applications, and nothing really cuts it. So for that we are settling with VNC and uploading the files to each other when we need to do some serious red-lining.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We are.We 've been having to use Gobby for collaborative writing because it 's the only secure way for us to do writing sessions online .
Sure , having some text formatting in a program like that would be nice , but we 've been copying the Gobby sessions over to our Wiki and the formatting is done there anyway , so there is n't much of a need for that but it still would be nice for future projects.Even down the road when we can afford to relocate and work in the same building instead of having all our studio members living in different states , we are still going to do our writing sessions with some kind of real-time collaborative writing software .
You have no idea how much easier it is to make changes yourself instead of pointing at someone 's screen telling them what to type , or how much faster you can both write when you can both be working on different parts of the script at the same time , or having someone edit your mistakes immediately .
When you are actually discussing the story constantly with a co-writer , you really want software like this.As for whiteboards , we 'd really like to have the same real-time collaborative editing that we enjoy with Gobby for our design and art production as well .
We 've tried things like OpenCanvas or those online paint chat applications , and nothing really cuts it .
So for that we are settling with VNC and uploading the files to each other when we need to do some serious red-lining .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We are.We've been having to use Gobby for collaborative writing because it's the only secure way for us to do writing sessions online.
Sure, having some text formatting in a program like that would be nice, but we've been copying the Gobby sessions over to our Wiki and the formatting is done there anyway, so there isn't much of a need for that but it still would be nice for future projects.Even down the road when we can afford to relocate and work in the same building instead of having all our studio members living in different states, we are still going to do our writing sessions with some kind of real-time collaborative writing software.
You have no idea how much easier it is to make changes yourself instead of pointing at someone's screen telling them what to type, or how much faster you can both write when you can both be working on different parts of the script at the same time, or having someone edit your mistakes immediately.
When you are actually discussing the story constantly with a co-writer, you really want software like this.As for whiteboards, we'd really like to have the same real-time collaborative editing that we enjoy with Gobby for our design and art production as well.
We've tried things like OpenCanvas or those online paint chat applications, and nothing really cuts it.
So for that we are settling with VNC and uploading the files to each other when we need to do some serious red-lining.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895531</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29898519</id>
	<title>So, can I get the server side software?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256749620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hello,</p><p>Why there is no server-side "component" download somewhere?</p><p>Maybe my understanding is wrong, but in current setup of this, one trusts that their server will be there all the time, internet connection will always work but most importantly, the data and revisions are stored outside of user's control, i.e the remote server is not there = tough luck (did I miss something here?).</p><p>Having option to host this kind of set-up fully in-house would be good (maybe with replication to their site if wanted).</p><p>Also, please do not take it as an attack on developers or service - I know how hard developing decent stuff is from personal experience.</p><p>(My apologies if all of the above was already discussed somewhere on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. already, and I wasted your time)</p><p>Vladimir</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hello,Why there is no server-side " component " download somewhere ? Maybe my understanding is wrong , but in current setup of this , one trusts that their server will be there all the time , internet connection will always work but most importantly , the data and revisions are stored outside of user 's control , i.e the remote server is not there = tough luck ( did I miss something here ?
) .Having option to host this kind of set-up fully in-house would be good ( maybe with replication to their site if wanted ) .Also , please do not take it as an attack on developers or service - I know how hard developing decent stuff is from personal experience .
( My apologies if all of the above was already discussed somewhere on / .
already , and I wasted your time ) Vladimir</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hello,Why there is no server-side "component" download somewhere?Maybe my understanding is wrong, but in current setup of this, one trusts that their server will be there all the time, internet connection will always work but most importantly, the data and revisions are stored outside of user's control, i.e the remote server is not there = tough luck (did I miss something here?
).Having option to host this kind of set-up fully in-house would be good (maybe with replication to their site if wanted).Also, please do not take it as an attack on developers or service - I know how hard developing decent stuff is from personal experience.
(My apologies if all of the above was already discussed somewhere on /.
already, and I wasted your time)Vladimir</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895561</id>
	<title>It's a locked in EXTERNAL web site, no thanks.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256736600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This app only works as long as the abicollab.net website is functional, and they will get to see a copy of anything you do.  This would only be a useful alternative<br>if there was a separate deployable web-service that could be INTERNALLY hosted.</p><p>The main reason for us not using google apps is that the documents would be vulnerable to privacy issues.  This solution does not fix that problem.<br>If you have access to external web site, you might as well use a web based app.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This app only works as long as the abicollab.net website is functional , and they will get to see a copy of anything you do .
This would only be a useful alternativeif there was a separate deployable web-service that could be INTERNALLY hosted.The main reason for us not using google apps is that the documents would be vulnerable to privacy issues .
This solution does not fix that problem.If you have access to external web site , you might as well use a web based app .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This app only works as long as the abicollab.net website is functional, and they will get to see a copy of anything you do.
This would only be a useful alternativeif there was a separate deployable web-service that could be INTERNALLY hosted.The main reason for us not using google apps is that the documents would be vulnerable to privacy issues.
This solution does not fix that problem.If you have access to external web site, you might as well use a web based app.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29896181</id>
	<title>Re:It's a locked in EXTERNAL web site, no thanks.</title>
	<author>msevior</author>
	<datestamp>1256740320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We hear you. This can easily be arranged. The service can be deployed on a smallish server that could easily handle several hundred simultaneous collaborative documents (enough for a high school for example) or scale up to handle what we expect from the whole web. Most of the processing grunt needed is actually in the clients. This a huge advantage compared to Google apps which rely on the server for their CPU cycles.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We hear you .
This can easily be arranged .
The service can be deployed on a smallish server that could easily handle several hundred simultaneous collaborative documents ( enough for a high school for example ) or scale up to handle what we expect from the whole web .
Most of the processing grunt needed is actually in the clients .
This a huge advantage compared to Google apps which rely on the server for their CPU cycles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We hear you.
This can easily be arranged.
The service can be deployed on a smallish server that could easily handle several hundred simultaneous collaborative documents (enough for a high school for example) or scale up to handle what we expect from the whole web.
Most of the processing grunt needed is actually in the clients.
This a huge advantage compared to Google apps which rely on the server for their CPU cycles.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895561</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29899203</id>
	<title>Re:Does anyone actually *want* collaborative softw</title>
	<author>jbolden</author>
	<datestamp>1256752740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I do it on google docs all time time.  Phone + real time changes:</p><p>-- OK I basically agree with your tables except I'd change A to B</p><p>or with code review:</p><p>-- I highlighted the lines I had questions about, and then comments get added live</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do it on google docs all time time .
Phone + real time changes : -- OK I basically agree with your tables except I 'd change A to Bor with code review : -- I highlighted the lines I had questions about , and then comments get added live</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do it on google docs all time time.
Phone + real time changes:-- OK I basically agree with your tables except I'd change A to Bor with code review:-- I highlighted the lines I had questions about, and then comments get added live</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895531</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29900123</id>
	<title>Re:Slashvertisement!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256756280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"...but featuring a real word processor <b>rather than an app in a browser</b>"</p><p>Seriously, what on earth is that supposed to mean ?</p></div><p>It is the most meaningless app on the web.  You must have AbiWord installed on your computer, you then create a document on your computer and post it on AbiCollab and make it available to friends who can edit it  - if they also have AbiWord installed.  Its only an order of magnitude slower than creating a document and emailing it as an attachment.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" ...but featuring a real word processor rather than an app in a browser " Seriously , what on earth is that supposed to mean ? It is the most meaningless app on the web .
You must have AbiWord installed on your computer , you then create a document on your computer and post it on AbiCollab and make it available to friends who can edit it - if they also have AbiWord installed .
Its only an order of magnitude slower than creating a document and emailing it as an attachment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"...but featuring a real word processor rather than an app in a browser"Seriously, what on earth is that supposed to mean ?It is the most meaningless app on the web.
You must have AbiWord installed on your computer, you then create a document on your computer and post it on AbiCollab and make it available to friends who can edit it  - if they also have AbiWord installed.
Its only an order of magnitude slower than creating a document and emailing it as an attachment.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895377</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29896935</id>
	<title>Re:Does anyone actually *want* collaborative softw</title>
	<author>buttle2000</author>
	<datestamp>1256743200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Schools. Collaborative software makes live fun from students and prepares them for the networked world.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Schools .
Collaborative software makes live fun from students and prepares them for the networked world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Schools.
Collaborative software makes live fun from students and prepares them for the networked world.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895531</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29896265</id>
	<title>Re:Slashvertisement!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256740680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"...but featuring a real word processor <b>rather than an app in a browser</b>"

Seriously, what on earth is that supposed to mean ?</p></div><p>This isn't a slashvertisement; by "app in a browser," they mean the dazzling display of massive AJAX that is characteristic of Google Apps. AbiCollab is not this; if you looked into it more, you'd see you actually <em>need a plug-in</em> to make this work.</p><p>Thus, AbiCollab really isn't an "app in the browser" in the traditional sense of a Web application--it's a <em>desktop</em> application hosted by a Web browser via a plug-in. That is what they meant. Of course, whether this is a good or bad thing is another story, since unlike Google Apps, you can use this only on platforms that are supported by some desktop application (and that have the AbiCollab plug-in).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" ...but featuring a real word processor rather than an app in a browser " Seriously , what on earth is that supposed to mean ? This is n't a slashvertisement ; by " app in a browser , " they mean the dazzling display of massive AJAX that is characteristic of Google Apps .
AbiCollab is not this ; if you looked into it more , you 'd see you actually need a plug-in to make this work.Thus , AbiCollab really is n't an " app in the browser " in the traditional sense of a Web application--it 's a desktop application hosted by a Web browser via a plug-in .
That is what they meant .
Of course , whether this is a good or bad thing is another story , since unlike Google Apps , you can use this only on platforms that are supported by some desktop application ( and that have the AbiCollab plug-in ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"...but featuring a real word processor rather than an app in a browser"

Seriously, what on earth is that supposed to mean ?This isn't a slashvertisement; by "app in a browser," they mean the dazzling display of massive AJAX that is characteristic of Google Apps.
AbiCollab is not this; if you looked into it more, you'd see you actually need a plug-in to make this work.Thus, AbiCollab really isn't an "app in the browser" in the traditional sense of a Web application--it's a desktop application hosted by a Web browser via a plug-in.
That is what they meant.
Of course, whether this is a good or bad thing is another story, since unlike Google Apps, you can use this only on platforms that are supported by some desktop application (and that have the AbiCollab plug-in).
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895377</parent>
</comment>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_10_28_0032254_5</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29896263
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895579
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_10_28_0032254_10</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895657
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895531
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_10_28_0032254_17</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29899467
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895377
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_10_28_0032254_9</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29897805
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895513
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895377
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_10_28_0032254_14</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895461
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895377
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_10_28_0032254_18</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895751
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895531
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_10_28_0032254_22</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29896639
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895531
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_10_28_0032254_2</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29931251
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895561
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_10_28_0032254_20</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895707
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895531
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_10_28_0032254_6</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29896137
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895579
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_10_28_0032254_0</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29899693
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29897679
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_10_28_0032254_24</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29899639
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895579
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_10_28_0032254_23</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29899243
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29896265
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895377
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_10_28_0032254_4</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29896121
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895531
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_10_28_0032254_11</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895965
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895531
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_10_28_0032254_3</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29903637
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895579
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_10_28_0032254_21</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29896181
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895561
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_10_28_0032254_8</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29900123
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895377
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_10_28_0032254_15</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29899441
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29897321
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_10_28_0032254_7</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895457
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895377
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_10_28_0032254_12</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29897581
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895531
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_10_28_0032254_1</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29896935
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895531
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_10_28_0032254_19</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29899203
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895531
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_10_28_0032254_16</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895929
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895531
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_10_28_0032254_13</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29896285
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895377
</commentlist>
</thread>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_10_28_0032254.6</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29897321
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29899441
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_10_28_0032254.7</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29897679
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29899693
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_10_28_0032254.5</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895561
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29931251
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29896181
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_10_28_0032254.4</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895579
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29899639
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29896263
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29896137
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29903637
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_10_28_0032254.2</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895377
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29900123
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895513
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29897805
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29896285
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895461
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895457
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29896265
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29899243
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29899467
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_10_28_0032254.9</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895531
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895657
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29897581
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29899203
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895707
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895929
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29896935
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895751
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895965
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29896121
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29896639
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_10_28_0032254.0</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895869
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_10_28_0032254.3</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895363
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_10_28_0032254.1</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29898519
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_10_28_0032254.8</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_28_0032254.29895429
</commentlist>
</conversation>
