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	<title>Psystar's Rebel EFI Hackintosh Tool Reviewed, Found Wanting</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1256558880000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>CWmike writes <i>"While the world focused on Microsoft's launch of Windows 7, Florida-based Psystar <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9139828/Psystar\_launches\_Mac\_cloning\_tool">quietly launched Rebel EFI</a>, a software product that should worry Apple a lot more than Microsoft's latest operating system. Rebel EFI allows users to run Apple's flagship operating system, Mac OS X Snow Leopard, on non-Apple hardware. Computerworld <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9139912/Review\_Psystar\_s\_Rebel\_EFI\_Snow\_Leopard\_on\_a\_PC">test drove the making of a Hackintosh out of a generic PC</a> with the company's new software package and found a product that has a lot of homework still to do. Reviewer Frank Ohlhorst's final analysis: 'Psystar's Rebel EFI (<a href="http://store.psystar.com/featured/rebel-efi-preview.html">a free trial is available</a>) is an interesting tool, but it is very limited when it comes to the selection of hardware that you can use. The company really needs to create a compatible hardware list and post that on its Web site &mdash; and it also needs to create some usable documentation. As it stands right now, you can use Rebel EFI to build a Mac clone, but unless you stick to relatively generic hardware, you will be disappointed.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>CWmike writes " While the world focused on Microsoft 's launch of Windows 7 , Florida-based Psystar quietly launched Rebel EFI , a software product that should worry Apple a lot more than Microsoft 's latest operating system .
Rebel EFI allows users to run Apple 's flagship operating system , Mac OS X Snow Leopard , on non-Apple hardware .
Computerworld test drove the making of a Hackintosh out of a generic PC with the company 's new software package and found a product that has a lot of homework still to do .
Reviewer Frank Ohlhorst 's final analysis : 'Psystar 's Rebel EFI ( a free trial is available ) is an interesting tool , but it is very limited when it comes to the selection of hardware that you can use .
The company really needs to create a compatible hardware list and post that on its Web site    and it also needs to create some usable documentation .
As it stands right now , you can use Rebel EFI to build a Mac clone , but unless you stick to relatively generic hardware , you will be disappointed .
' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CWmike writes "While the world focused on Microsoft's launch of Windows 7, Florida-based Psystar quietly launched Rebel EFI, a software product that should worry Apple a lot more than Microsoft's latest operating system.
Rebel EFI allows users to run Apple's flagship operating system, Mac OS X Snow Leopard, on non-Apple hardware.
Computerworld test drove the making of a Hackintosh out of a generic PC with the company's new software package and found a product that has a lot of homework still to do.
Reviewer Frank Ohlhorst's final analysis: 'Psystar's Rebel EFI (a free trial is available) is an interesting tool, but it is very limited when it comes to the selection of hardware that you can use.
The company really needs to create a compatible hardware list and post that on its Web site — and it also needs to create some usable documentation.
As it stands right now, you can use Rebel EFI to build a Mac clone, but unless you stick to relatively generic hardware, you will be disappointed.
'"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29880323</id>
	<title>[sigh]</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256572440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>OSX uses the xnu kernel (a derivative of Mach). It is not based on BSD, and only provides a BSD userland to make things easier for developers/users. Xnu is open-source.
<br> <br>
Having said that, a huge chunk of the user-visible runtime is not open-source, and Apple maintain an actively protective stance over it. I agree with the lawsuits comment...
<br> <br>
Simon.</htmltext>
<tokenext>OSX uses the xnu kernel ( a derivative of Mach ) .
It is not based on BSD , and only provides a BSD userland to make things easier for developers/users .
Xnu is open-source .
Having said that , a huge chunk of the user-visible runtime is not open-source , and Apple maintain an actively protective stance over it .
I agree with the lawsuits comment.. . Simon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OSX uses the xnu kernel (a derivative of Mach).
It is not based on BSD, and only provides a BSD userland to make things easier for developers/users.
Xnu is open-source.
Having said that, a huge chunk of the user-visible runtime is not open-source, and Apple maintain an actively protective stance over it.
I agree with the lawsuits comment...
 
Simon.</sentencetext>
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	<title>thx for the info</title>
	<author>cosm</author>
	<datestamp>1256656080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>IANAMU</htmltext>
<tokenext>IANAMU</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IANAMU</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879665</id>
	<title>Re:So in other words...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256565120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pystar is trying to get around Apple suing them for the "clone" of Snow Leopard. This is supposed to be a "generic" MacOS clone..which seems to me would make it pretty much UNIX BSD. Of course who BSD is owned by many different people in bits and pieces but the distribution is still owned by Cal Berkley. Check out groklaw for details of Pystar vs Apple and the history of UNIX which is part of the SCO vs IBM and SCO vs Novell case about System V Unix code being in Linux. I give Apple about a week before they file suit and seek an injunction blocking this product. Unless this product is truly unique in the code being created from scratch without use of any MacOS driver code or UNIX driver codes I see a ton of lawsuits coming.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pystar is trying to get around Apple suing them for the " clone " of Snow Leopard .
This is supposed to be a " generic " MacOS clone..which seems to me would make it pretty much UNIX BSD .
Of course who BSD is owned by many different people in bits and pieces but the distribution is still owned by Cal Berkley .
Check out groklaw for details of Pystar vs Apple and the history of UNIX which is part of the SCO vs IBM and SCO vs Novell case about System V Unix code being in Linux .
I give Apple about a week before they file suit and seek an injunction blocking this product .
Unless this product is truly unique in the code being created from scratch without use of any MacOS driver code or UNIX driver codes I see a ton of lawsuits coming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pystar is trying to get around Apple suing them for the "clone" of Snow Leopard.
This is supposed to be a "generic" MacOS clone..which seems to me would make it pretty much UNIX BSD.
Of course who BSD is owned by many different people in bits and pieces but the distribution is still owned by Cal Berkley.
Check out groklaw for details of Pystar vs Apple and the history of UNIX which is part of the SCO vs IBM and SCO vs Novell case about System V Unix code being in Linux.
I give Apple about a week before they file suit and seek an injunction blocking this product.
Unless this product is truly unique in the code being created from scratch without use of any MacOS driver code or UNIX driver codes I see a ton of lawsuits coming.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29882677</id>
	<title>Re:Athiests as a Majority</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256652300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And this is what it *is* like.<p>
CHRISTIAN KID: Mom, I'm going to go pray for a bit.<br>
CHRISTIAN MOM: Okay, son.<br>
CHRISTIAN KID: Afterwards, I'm going to go do some evangelism, knock on a few doors and try to convert people. They should not be allowed to disbelieve, I must save them!<br>
CHRISTIAN MOM: Okay, come home soon!</p><p>
The christian kid leaves the room. The father comes home from work several minutes later.</p><p>
CHRISTIAN DAD: Hey!<br>
CHRISTIAN MOM: Hi, honey! I'm pregnant again, isn't this exciting! We now have our 8th on our way. I guess I really must be doing God proud by bringing another into his world. I know we don't have the means to support him properly and that the world is overpopulated, but really, does that matter? We are creating another LIFE!<br>
CHRISTIAN DAD: Okay, get as many kids as you want!<br>
CHRISTIAN MOM: Oh, and don't go in the bedroom.<br>
CHRISTIAN DAD: Why not?<br>
CHRISTIAN MOM: One of our daughters is in there with a new man she found, I think they need some privacy.<br>
CHRISTIAN DAD: Why are they here?<br>
CHRISTIAN MOM: I wanted to watch them for a while. I need to make sure they are not going to sin before marriage.<br>
CHRISTIAN DAD: Okay, that's fine with me!</p><p>
Suddenly, their neighbor runs into the house.</p><p>
CHRISTIAN NEIGHBOR: Come quick, there's an agnostic outside!<br>
CHRISTIAN MOM: We'll be right there!</p><p>
The christian couple quickly put on a pair of black robes and hoods. They then exit the house, and run into the street, where an innocent agnostic is nailed to a large, wooden X. He is being burned alive. A crowd of Christians stand around him, all wearing black robes and hoods.</p><p>
RANDOM CHRISTIAN: Damn you, unbeliever! You won't convert! We try our best to teach you the ways of the lord and Jesus our saviour. But you just resist resist resist! You MUST be an evil minion for refusing to come to our side! Die, unbeliever!</p><p>
THE END</p><p>
Scary, isn't it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And this is what it * is * like .
CHRISTIAN KID : Mom , I 'm going to go pray for a bit .
CHRISTIAN MOM : Okay , son .
CHRISTIAN KID : Afterwards , I 'm going to go do some evangelism , knock on a few doors and try to convert people .
They should not be allowed to disbelieve , I must save them !
CHRISTIAN MOM : Okay , come home soon !
The christian kid leaves the room .
The father comes home from work several minutes later .
CHRISTIAN DAD : Hey !
CHRISTIAN MOM : Hi , honey !
I 'm pregnant again , is n't this exciting !
We now have our 8th on our way .
I guess I really must be doing God proud by bringing another into his world .
I know we do n't have the means to support him properly and that the world is overpopulated , but really , does that matter ?
We are creating another LIFE !
CHRISTIAN DAD : Okay , get as many kids as you want !
CHRISTIAN MOM : Oh , and do n't go in the bedroom .
CHRISTIAN DAD : Why not ?
CHRISTIAN MOM : One of our daughters is in there with a new man she found , I think they need some privacy .
CHRISTIAN DAD : Why are they here ?
CHRISTIAN MOM : I wanted to watch them for a while .
I need to make sure they are not going to sin before marriage .
CHRISTIAN DAD : Okay , that 's fine with me !
Suddenly , their neighbor runs into the house .
CHRISTIAN NEIGHBOR : Come quick , there 's an agnostic outside !
CHRISTIAN MOM : We 'll be right there !
The christian couple quickly put on a pair of black robes and hoods .
They then exit the house , and run into the street , where an innocent agnostic is nailed to a large , wooden X. He is being burned alive .
A crowd of Christians stand around him , all wearing black robes and hoods .
RANDOM CHRISTIAN : Damn you , unbeliever !
You wo n't convert !
We try our best to teach you the ways of the lord and Jesus our saviour .
But you just resist resist resist !
You MUST be an evil minion for refusing to come to our side !
Die , unbeliever !
THE END Scary , is n't it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And this is what it *is* like.
CHRISTIAN KID: Mom, I'm going to go pray for a bit.
CHRISTIAN MOM: Okay, son.
CHRISTIAN KID: Afterwards, I'm going to go do some evangelism, knock on a few doors and try to convert people.
They should not be allowed to disbelieve, I must save them!
CHRISTIAN MOM: Okay, come home soon!
The christian kid leaves the room.
The father comes home from work several minutes later.
CHRISTIAN DAD: Hey!
CHRISTIAN MOM: Hi, honey!
I'm pregnant again, isn't this exciting!
We now have our 8th on our way.
I guess I really must be doing God proud by bringing another into his world.
I know we don't have the means to support him properly and that the world is overpopulated, but really, does that matter?
We are creating another LIFE!
CHRISTIAN DAD: Okay, get as many kids as you want!
CHRISTIAN MOM: Oh, and don't go in the bedroom.
CHRISTIAN DAD: Why not?
CHRISTIAN MOM: One of our daughters is in there with a new man she found, I think they need some privacy.
CHRISTIAN DAD: Why are they here?
CHRISTIAN MOM: I wanted to watch them for a while.
I need to make sure they are not going to sin before marriage.
CHRISTIAN DAD: Okay, that's fine with me!
Suddenly, their neighbor runs into the house.
CHRISTIAN NEIGHBOR: Come quick, there's an agnostic outside!
CHRISTIAN MOM: We'll be right there!
The christian couple quickly put on a pair of black robes and hoods.
They then exit the house, and run into the street, where an innocent agnostic is nailed to a large, wooden X. He is being burned alive.
A crowd of Christians stand around him, all wearing black robes and hoods.
RANDOM CHRISTIAN: Damn you, unbeliever!
You won't convert!
We try our best to teach you the ways of the lord and Jesus our saviour.
But you just resist resist resist!
You MUST be an evil minion for refusing to come to our side!
Die, unbeliever!
THE END
Scary, isn't it?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29881587</id>
	<title>Apple does'nt do anything to prohibit installation</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256635860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What I find funny is, how people are complaining about Apple making it impossible to run MacOS on "normal" PCs...</p><p>Apple does not do anything like that! They use EFI in their Macs, not BIOS, never have been, there is no Mac with BIOS, Bootloading, Booting e.g. does work different on a Mac and OS X than it does on PCs...</p><p>Who is it that prevents anything? Apple is not going to implement BIOS-Support in OS X, why should they? And the efforts of installing OS X on normal PCs are always to emulate an EFI...</p><p>there is nothing prevented, Macs are just no standard PCs. Never have been. Although they are way closer related, now that Apple uses Intel-Chips.</p><p>Apple does not have an activation of their software, they don't provide nor need serial numbers, registration is 100\% optional. Apple trusts their users much, is giving back much to the open source community (although that has been different in the past...). Who is it that is preventing anything?</p><p>Just complainig because your PC does not have EFI? Then get one that does, EFI is the future and is coming to more and more "normal" PCs, too!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What I find funny is , how people are complaining about Apple making it impossible to run MacOS on " normal " PCs...Apple does not do anything like that !
They use EFI in their Macs , not BIOS , never have been , there is no Mac with BIOS , Bootloading , Booting e.g .
does work different on a Mac and OS X than it does on PCs...Who is it that prevents anything ?
Apple is not going to implement BIOS-Support in OS X , why should they ?
And the efforts of installing OS X on normal PCs are always to emulate an EFI...there is nothing prevented , Macs are just no standard PCs .
Never have been .
Although they are way closer related , now that Apple uses Intel-Chips.Apple does not have an activation of their software , they do n't provide nor need serial numbers , registration is 100 \ % optional .
Apple trusts their users much , is giving back much to the open source community ( although that has been different in the past... ) .
Who is it that is preventing anything ? Just complainig because your PC does not have EFI ?
Then get one that does , EFI is the future and is coming to more and more " normal " PCs , too !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I find funny is, how people are complaining about Apple making it impossible to run MacOS on "normal" PCs...Apple does not do anything like that!
They use EFI in their Macs, not BIOS, never have been, there is no Mac with BIOS, Bootloading, Booting e.g.
does work different on a Mac and OS X than it does on PCs...Who is it that prevents anything?
Apple is not going to implement BIOS-Support in OS X, why should they?
And the efforts of installing OS X on normal PCs are always to emulate an EFI...there is nothing prevented, Macs are just no standard PCs.
Never have been.
Although they are way closer related, now that Apple uses Intel-Chips.Apple does not have an activation of their software, they don't provide nor need serial numbers, registration is 100\% optional.
Apple trusts their users much, is giving back much to the open source community (although that has been different in the past...).
Who is it that is preventing anything?Just complainig because your PC does not have EFI?
Then get one that does, EFI is the future and is coming to more and more "normal" PCs, too!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879379</id>
	<title>So in other words...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256562720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>  As it stands right now, you can use Rebel EFI to build a Mac clone, but unless you stick to relatively generic hardware, you will be disappointed</p> </div><p>

So in other words an OS made to run and tested only on 6 or 7 different major configurations of computers is going to need some tweaking before it can run on other, untested and unsupported hardware? This is hardly a suprise. Next thing is we're going to have a story saying that iPhone OS doesn't run so great on the G1...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As it stands right now , you can use Rebel EFI to build a Mac clone , but unless you stick to relatively generic hardware , you will be disappointed So in other words an OS made to run and tested only on 6 or 7 different major configurations of computers is going to need some tweaking before it can run on other , untested and unsupported hardware ?
This is hardly a suprise .
Next thing is we 're going to have a story saying that iPhone OS does n't run so great on the G1.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  As it stands right now, you can use Rebel EFI to build a Mac clone, but unless you stick to relatively generic hardware, you will be disappointed 

So in other words an OS made to run and tested only on 6 or 7 different major configurations of computers is going to need some tweaking before it can run on other, untested and unsupported hardware?
This is hardly a suprise.
Next thing is we're going to have a story saying that iPhone OS doesn't run so great on the G1...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29882507</id>
	<title>Rebel EFI from USB-Stick</title>
	<author>k2r</author>
	<datestamp>1256650980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does anybody know how to install/use RebelEFI from USB-Stick?<br>dd if=rebel.iso of=/dev/disk# does not make it bootable for me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anybody know how to install/use RebelEFI from USB-Stick ? dd if = rebel.iso of = /dev/disk # does not make it bootable for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anybody know how to install/use RebelEFI from USB-Stick?dd if=rebel.iso of=/dev/disk# does not make it bootable for me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879477</id>
	<title>Apple should be concerned...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256563500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Although I am all for the proliferation of decent software, Apple should be considerably nervous about these kinds of offerings.  Right now the support loop for hardware is fairly closed; the amount of variables they must take into consideration when providing tech-support is fairly small considering they control the hardware side of things so tightly.  <br> <br>
On the same token, it seems these days a lot of add-on hardware is Mac compatible, hard drives, memory, video cards, sound cards, the list goes on...so this leads me a conclusion of Apple putting more bullets in its feet as the list of upgrades and add-ons for Apple machines grows; they lose that hardware control variable.  <br> <br> This leads to the next conclusion, at what point does outfitting a machine with tons of non-factory-spec hardware separate it from a ground up build? If it is just the motherboard, then they are facing a conundrum. <br> <br>Again, IANAMU, does Apple's support coverage encompass machines with things like user-added memory &amp; videocards? If it does, then eventually they might as well just allow individuals to purchase OEM copies for their build, seeing as their support loop must scale to additional interoperability anyways.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Although I am all for the proliferation of decent software , Apple should be considerably nervous about these kinds of offerings .
Right now the support loop for hardware is fairly closed ; the amount of variables they must take into consideration when providing tech-support is fairly small considering they control the hardware side of things so tightly .
On the same token , it seems these days a lot of add-on hardware is Mac compatible , hard drives , memory , video cards , sound cards , the list goes on...so this leads me a conclusion of Apple putting more bullets in its feet as the list of upgrades and add-ons for Apple machines grows ; they lose that hardware control variable .
This leads to the next conclusion , at what point does outfitting a machine with tons of non-factory-spec hardware separate it from a ground up build ?
If it is just the motherboard , then they are facing a conundrum .
Again , IANAMU , does Apple 's support coverage encompass machines with things like user-added memory &amp; videocards ?
If it does , then eventually they might as well just allow individuals to purchase OEM copies for their build , seeing as their support loop must scale to additional interoperability anyways .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Although I am all for the proliferation of decent software, Apple should be considerably nervous about these kinds of offerings.
Right now the support loop for hardware is fairly closed; the amount of variables they must take into consideration when providing tech-support is fairly small considering they control the hardware side of things so tightly.
On the same token, it seems these days a lot of add-on hardware is Mac compatible, hard drives, memory, video cards, sound cards, the list goes on...so this leads me a conclusion of Apple putting more bullets in its feet as the list of upgrades and add-ons for Apple machines grows; they lose that hardware control variable.
This leads to the next conclusion, at what point does outfitting a machine with tons of non-factory-spec hardware separate it from a ground up build?
If it is just the motherboard, then they are facing a conundrum.
Again, IANAMU, does Apple's support coverage encompass machines with things like user-added memory &amp; videocards?
If it does, then eventually they might as well just allow individuals to purchase OEM copies for their build, seeing as their support loop must scale to additional interoperability anyways.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29884951</id>
	<title>Re:Athiests as a Majority</title>
	<author>walterbyrd</author>
	<datestamp>1256663460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Quote from a devote Christian:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The Government, who regard Christianity as the unshakable foundation of the morals and moral code of the nation, attach the greatest value to friendly relations with the Holy See and are endeavouring to develop them.</p></div><p>-Adolf Hitler, in his speech to the Reichstag on 23 March 1933</p></div>
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<tokenext>Quote from a devote Christian : The Government , who regard Christianity as the unshakable foundation of the morals and moral code of the nation , attach the greatest value to friendly relations with the Holy See and are endeavouring to develop them.-Adolf Hitler , in his speech to the Reichstag on 23 March 1933</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Quote from a devote Christian:The Government, who regard Christianity as the unshakable foundation of the morals and moral code of the nation, attach the greatest value to friendly relations with the Holy See and are endeavouring to develop them.-Adolf Hitler, in his speech to the Reichstag on 23 March 1933
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29881249</id>
	<title>Re:Athiests as a Majority</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256586540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What IS scary:<br>Replace capitalized ATHIEST with CHRISTIAN and Christian with Atheist and it is much more likely. Most atheists are quite agnostic, but you really don't want to know what happens behind the closed doors of some christian zealot's communities. Might wanr to watch latter days.</p><p>BTW I am a Christian, but the double morality of some really scares me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What IS scary : Replace capitalized ATHIEST with CHRISTIAN and Christian with Atheist and it is much more likely .
Most atheists are quite agnostic , but you really do n't want to know what happens behind the closed doors of some christian zealot 's communities .
Might wanr to watch latter days.BTW I am a Christian , but the double morality of some really scares me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What IS scary:Replace capitalized ATHIEST with CHRISTIAN and Christian with Atheist and it is much more likely.
Most atheists are quite agnostic, but you really don't want to know what happens behind the closed doors of some christian zealot's communities.
Might wanr to watch latter days.BTW I am a Christian, but the double morality of some really scares me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29882667</id>
	<title>yup can be done</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256652180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>works with vmware. but it does need a tiny bit of h4x0ring<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)<br>nah just joking. any ph00l with google should be able to do it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>works with vmware .
but it does need a tiny bit of h4x0ring : ) nah just joking .
any ph00l with google should be able to do it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>works with vmware.
but it does need a tiny bit of h4x0ring :)nah just joking.
any ph00l with google should be able to do it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879421</id>
	<title>The problem...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256563080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>...is that it turns it into a cat-and-mouse game. Just like the Apple vs Palm USB issue. Apple will find a way to prevent OS X from running on this, and people will have a system where any software update could brick their computer. Then the Psystar team will find a way around that. Rinse, repeat. So I can either ignore upgrades, use a different OS, or actually buy a Mac. Sounds like some great choices.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...is that it turns it into a cat-and-mouse game .
Just like the Apple vs Palm USB issue .
Apple will find a way to prevent OS X from running on this , and people will have a system where any software update could brick their computer .
Then the Psystar team will find a way around that .
Rinse , repeat .
So I can either ignore upgrades , use a different OS , or actually buy a Mac .
Sounds like some great choices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...is that it turns it into a cat-and-mouse game.
Just like the Apple vs Palm USB issue.
Apple will find a way to prevent OS X from running on this, and people will have a system where any software update could brick their computer.
Then the Psystar team will find a way around that.
Rinse, repeat.
So I can either ignore upgrades, use a different OS, or actually buy a Mac.
Sounds like some great choices.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29880743</id>
	<title>Re:So in other words...</title>
	<author>okmijnuhb</author>
	<datestamp>1256577900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, and not only that, but Apple should be very worried about this for some reason.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , and not only that , but Apple should be very worried about this for some reason .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, and not only that, but Apple should be very worried about this for some reason.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29882259</id>
	<title>Re:Athiests as a Majority</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256648460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was going to post a rebuttal but this has to be a troll. I refuse to believe that anyone is this retarded.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was going to post a rebuttal but this has to be a troll .
I refuse to believe that anyone is this retarded .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was going to post a rebuttal but this has to be a troll.
I refuse to believe that anyone is this retarded.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29882481</id>
	<title>Re:OS X on Mini 9</title>
	<author>Zaphod-AVA</author>
	<datestamp>1256650800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm sorry, but you apparently suck at optimizing XP. I too own a Mini 9, and I've installed XP and OSX86 on it. While I enjoy OSX on the device, XP once properly tuned was just as responsive and usable.</p><p>-Z</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sorry , but you apparently suck at optimizing XP .
I too own a Mini 9 , and I 've installed XP and OSX86 on it .
While I enjoy OSX on the device , XP once properly tuned was just as responsive and usable.-Z</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sorry, but you apparently suck at optimizing XP.
I too own a Mini 9, and I've installed XP and OSX86 on it.
While I enjoy OSX on the device, XP once properly tuned was just as responsive and usable.-Z</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879845</id>
	<title>OS X on Mini 9</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256566680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I got Dell Mini 9 last spring but it was almost unusable with WinXP due to the screen resolution and sluggishness of Windows on Atom CPU. Later I installed Mac OS X 10.5.7 and then 10.5.8 with EFI and it completely changed usability problems I had with the netbook. And no, I didn't copy that floppy but rather bought Leopard DVD from Apple.<br>This is an intermediate solution because I'm still waiting for a netbook or a 4x iPhone-type panel from Apple. Once I put my hands on it I will certainly sell this Dell.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I got Dell Mini 9 last spring but it was almost unusable with WinXP due to the screen resolution and sluggishness of Windows on Atom CPU .
Later I installed Mac OS X 10.5.7 and then 10.5.8 with EFI and it completely changed usability problems I had with the netbook .
And no , I did n't copy that floppy but rather bought Leopard DVD from Apple.This is an intermediate solution because I 'm still waiting for a netbook or a 4x iPhone-type panel from Apple .
Once I put my hands on it I will certainly sell this Dell .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got Dell Mini 9 last spring but it was almost unusable with WinXP due to the screen resolution and sluggishness of Windows on Atom CPU.
Later I installed Mac OS X 10.5.7 and then 10.5.8 with EFI and it completely changed usability problems I had with the netbook.
And no, I didn't copy that floppy but rather bought Leopard DVD from Apple.This is an intermediate solution because I'm still waiting for a netbook or a 4x iPhone-type panel from Apple.
Once I put my hands on it I will certainly sell this Dell.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29882249</id>
	<title>If you want something that works like an Apple...</title>
	<author>John Allsup</author>
	<datestamp>1256648340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I imagine Apple aren't too worried, because when you think about it in simple terms, if you want to buy something like an Apple, there is a very good company in Cupertino that makes Apples, happens to be called Apples, and has very nice Apple Stores that you can go into to buy them, talk to other people who like Apples, get advice and technical support, and things are quite simple.</p><p>Also, if your Mac plays up in a funny way, you can take it into the Apple store and they will be able to ask around the clever people at Apple who know these things and see if there is a decent solution.</p><p>Problem is, if you psystar machine plays up, the best you can do is take it to somebody called Bob down the road who can have a go, but the trouble is that there will always be interesting software/hardware conflicts floating around somewhere that are basically impossible to reproduce on a real Mac, because Apple did a good enough job of software/hardware integration.  So you can't even reproduce the spurious problems on a real Mac take it into the Apple store and ask around.</p><p>Now, if your time is worth anything, and you value it, and you want something that runs Mac OS X properly, it pays to buy a Mac that Apple make.</p><p>Apple, however, can simply watch what psystar do, make interesting modifications that make problems in funny places on the psystar machine, but not on a Mac, because the software guys can go and talk to the hardware guys over a coffee in the Apple cafe.  And they can also give there legal team some interesting legal exercise by throwing a few lawyers at psystar and seeing what happens.</p><p>I wonder if psystar have thought of this yet???</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I imagine Apple are n't too worried , because when you think about it in simple terms , if you want to buy something like an Apple , there is a very good company in Cupertino that makes Apples , happens to be called Apples , and has very nice Apple Stores that you can go into to buy them , talk to other people who like Apples , get advice and technical support , and things are quite simple.Also , if your Mac plays up in a funny way , you can take it into the Apple store and they will be able to ask around the clever people at Apple who know these things and see if there is a decent solution.Problem is , if you psystar machine plays up , the best you can do is take it to somebody called Bob down the road who can have a go , but the trouble is that there will always be interesting software/hardware conflicts floating around somewhere that are basically impossible to reproduce on a real Mac , because Apple did a good enough job of software/hardware integration .
So you ca n't even reproduce the spurious problems on a real Mac take it into the Apple store and ask around.Now , if your time is worth anything , and you value it , and you want something that runs Mac OS X properly , it pays to buy a Mac that Apple make.Apple , however , can simply watch what psystar do , make interesting modifications that make problems in funny places on the psystar machine , but not on a Mac , because the software guys can go and talk to the hardware guys over a coffee in the Apple cafe .
And they can also give there legal team some interesting legal exercise by throwing a few lawyers at psystar and seeing what happens.I wonder if psystar have thought of this yet ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I imagine Apple aren't too worried, because when you think about it in simple terms, if you want to buy something like an Apple, there is a very good company in Cupertino that makes Apples, happens to be called Apples, and has very nice Apple Stores that you can go into to buy them, talk to other people who like Apples, get advice and technical support, and things are quite simple.Also, if your Mac plays up in a funny way, you can take it into the Apple store and they will be able to ask around the clever people at Apple who know these things and see if there is a decent solution.Problem is, if you psystar machine plays up, the best you can do is take it to somebody called Bob down the road who can have a go, but the trouble is that there will always be interesting software/hardware conflicts floating around somewhere that are basically impossible to reproduce on a real Mac, because Apple did a good enough job of software/hardware integration.
So you can't even reproduce the spurious problems on a real Mac take it into the Apple store and ask around.Now, if your time is worth anything, and you value it, and you want something that runs Mac OS X properly, it pays to buy a Mac that Apple make.Apple, however, can simply watch what psystar do, make interesting modifications that make problems in funny places on the psystar machine, but not on a Mac, because the software guys can go and talk to the hardware guys over a coffee in the Apple cafe.
And they can also give there legal team some interesting legal exercise by throwing a few lawyers at psystar and seeing what happens.I wonder if psystar have thought of this yet??
?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879767</id>
	<title>Re:Virtualization</title>
	<author>Korin43</author>
	<datestamp>1256566020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Couldn't you just use another webkit browser like Chromium, Konqueror, Epiphany or Midori? The only difference I'm aware of is the horrible font rendering on Macs (and old versions of Safari on Windows), but that shouldn't affect the layout.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Could n't you just use another webkit browser like Chromium , Konqueror , Epiphany or Midori ?
The only difference I 'm aware of is the horrible font rendering on Macs ( and old versions of Safari on Windows ) , but that should n't affect the layout .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Couldn't you just use another webkit browser like Chromium, Konqueror, Epiphany or Midori?
The only difference I'm aware of is the horrible font rendering on Macs (and old versions of Safari on Windows), but that shouldn't affect the layout.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29881339</id>
	<title>OSX Virtualization</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256674500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I am waiting for the ability to run it ala VirtualBox or Vmware Player/Workstation.</i></p><p>That's what I want to do, run Snow Leopard, SN in a VM.  I want to setup my Mac I'm typing this on to dual boot SN and Ubuntu.  Then I'll use VirtualBox or another VM program to run Ubuntu in a VM.  I'd also like to run SN in a VM in Ubuntu, that way I could boot into either OS and still run the other one.  In the <a href="http://forums.virtualbox.org/index.php" title="virtualbox.org">VirtualBox forums</a> [virtualbox.org] I read it was possible to run OS X as a guess but when I last searched I didn't find out how to.</p><p><i>I don't have any use for my Mac mini other than checking some web design comparability with Safari under OSX</i></p><p>I'll be using my Mac for development.  With my Mac I can program and test them in Linux, OS X, and Windows.</p><p><i>I don't like having yet another piece of hardware I don't even need sitting around.</i> </p><p>I know what you mean.  I have a WinME PC with hardware problems I'm thinking of putting into storage for now and I have two other PCs, one dualboot with NT4.0 and Redhat and the other's a Linux PC.  That is I bought it new with Linux preinstalled.  Both are under my desk now.  The NT4 box being more than 10 years old, and having a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEC\_Alpha" title="wikipedia.org">DEC Alpha</a> [wikipedia.org] CPU, I'm not sure what to do.  That is other than gut the case and rebuild.  Now I plan on doing that with the Linux PC, it was a low powered PC anyway, I paid $250 for it versus more than $5000 for the NT4 box.  I have other PCs renters in my apartment building left behind as well.  For those I was thinking of listing them, and maybe my old ones, on <a href="http://www.freecycle.org/" title="freecycle.org">Freecycle</a> [freecycle.org] for anyone willing to come and pick them up.</p><p>Maybe you can do the same, list your hardware on Freecycle.</p><p>

Falcon</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am waiting for the ability to run it ala VirtualBox or Vmware Player/Workstation.That 's what I want to do , run Snow Leopard , SN in a VM .
I want to setup my Mac I 'm typing this on to dual boot SN and Ubuntu .
Then I 'll use VirtualBox or another VM program to run Ubuntu in a VM .
I 'd also like to run SN in a VM in Ubuntu , that way I could boot into either OS and still run the other one .
In the VirtualBox forums [ virtualbox.org ] I read it was possible to run OS X as a guess but when I last searched I did n't find out how to.I do n't have any use for my Mac mini other than checking some web design comparability with Safari under OSXI 'll be using my Mac for development .
With my Mac I can program and test them in Linux , OS X , and Windows.I do n't like having yet another piece of hardware I do n't even need sitting around .
I know what you mean .
I have a WinME PC with hardware problems I 'm thinking of putting into storage for now and I have two other PCs , one dualboot with NT4.0 and Redhat and the other 's a Linux PC .
That is I bought it new with Linux preinstalled .
Both are under my desk now .
The NT4 box being more than 10 years old , and having a DEC Alpha [ wikipedia.org ] CPU , I 'm not sure what to do .
That is other than gut the case and rebuild .
Now I plan on doing that with the Linux PC , it was a low powered PC anyway , I paid $ 250 for it versus more than $ 5000 for the NT4 box .
I have other PCs renters in my apartment building left behind as well .
For those I was thinking of listing them , and maybe my old ones , on Freecycle [ freecycle.org ] for anyone willing to come and pick them up.Maybe you can do the same , list your hardware on Freecycle .
Falcon</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am waiting for the ability to run it ala VirtualBox or Vmware Player/Workstation.That's what I want to do, run Snow Leopard, SN in a VM.
I want to setup my Mac I'm typing this on to dual boot SN and Ubuntu.
Then I'll use VirtualBox or another VM program to run Ubuntu in a VM.
I'd also like to run SN in a VM in Ubuntu, that way I could boot into either OS and still run the other one.
In the VirtualBox forums [virtualbox.org] I read it was possible to run OS X as a guess but when I last searched I didn't find out how to.I don't have any use for my Mac mini other than checking some web design comparability with Safari under OSXI'll be using my Mac for development.
With my Mac I can program and test them in Linux, OS X, and Windows.I don't like having yet another piece of hardware I don't even need sitting around.
I know what you mean.
I have a WinME PC with hardware problems I'm thinking of putting into storage for now and I have two other PCs, one dualboot with NT4.0 and Redhat and the other's a Linux PC.
That is I bought it new with Linux preinstalled.
Both are under my desk now.
The NT4 box being more than 10 years old, and having a DEC Alpha [wikipedia.org] CPU, I'm not sure what to do.
That is other than gut the case and rebuild.
Now I plan on doing that with the Linux PC, it was a low powered PC anyway, I paid $250 for it versus more than $5000 for the NT4 box.
I have other PCs renters in my apartment building left behind as well.
For those I was thinking of listing them, and maybe my old ones, on Freecycle [freecycle.org] for anyone willing to come and pick them up.Maybe you can do the same, list your hardware on Freecycle.
Falcon</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879825</id>
	<title>non-Apple hardware?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256566500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since when is it "apple hardware" all a mac is, is just a pc parts in a flashy case with the apple logo stamped on it. they use intel processor and intel chipset.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since when is it " apple hardware " all a mac is , is just a pc parts in a flashy case with the apple logo stamped on it .
they use intel processor and intel chipset .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since when is it "apple hardware" all a mac is, is just a pc parts in a flashy case with the apple logo stamped on it.
they use intel processor and intel chipset.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879617</id>
	<title>Re:Virtualization</title>
	<author>ya really</author>
	<datestamp>1256564580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I am waiting for the ability to run it ala VirtualBox or Vmware Player/Workstation.</p></div></blockquote><p>

It's been done for ages:<br>

<a href="http://pcwizcomputer.com/index.php?option=com\_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=75&amp;Itemid=45" title="pcwizcomputer.com">http://pcwizcomputer.com/index.php?option=com\_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=75&amp;Itemid=45</a> [pcwizcomputer.com] <br>

It says 10.5.2, but it works with at least the last version of leopard from my knowledge.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am waiting for the ability to run it ala VirtualBox or Vmware Player/Workstation .
It 's been done for ages : http : //pcwizcomputer.com/index.php ? option = com \ _content&amp;task = view&amp;id = 75&amp;Itemid = 45 [ pcwizcomputer.com ] It says 10.5.2 , but it works with at least the last version of leopard from my knowledge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am waiting for the ability to run it ala VirtualBox or Vmware Player/Workstation.
It's been done for ages:

http://pcwizcomputer.com/index.php?option=com\_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=75&amp;Itemid=45 [pcwizcomputer.com] 

It says 10.5.2, but it works with at least the last version of leopard from my knowledge.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879757</id>
	<title>That's brave</title>
	<author>Rik Rohl</author>
	<datestamp>1256565900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cue Apple suing Computerworld in 3, 2, 1...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cue Apple suing Computerworld in 3 , 2 , 1.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cue Apple suing Computerworld in 3, 2, 1...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29890329</id>
	<title>Apple is not worried</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256642520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know it's hard for the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. community to understand, but Apple isn't worried about hackers. It won't be more than one or two percent of the market, and you are, in any event, unintentional evangelizers for the brand anyway. What the Psystar suit is about is that Apple doesn't want a whole series of small industries making unauthorized, unlicensed clones. They would seem to have lost the first big battle, but they don't care about that. They care about crushing clone-makers. The great, great majority of users couldn't be bothered to worry about where to get wireless drivers and so on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know it 's hard for the / .
community to understand , but Apple is n't worried about hackers .
It wo n't be more than one or two percent of the market , and you are , in any event , unintentional evangelizers for the brand anyway .
What the Psystar suit is about is that Apple does n't want a whole series of small industries making unauthorized , unlicensed clones .
They would seem to have lost the first big battle , but they do n't care about that .
They care about crushing clone-makers .
The great , great majority of users could n't be bothered to worry about where to get wireless drivers and so on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know it's hard for the /.
community to understand, but Apple isn't worried about hackers.
It won't be more than one or two percent of the market, and you are, in any event, unintentional evangelizers for the brand anyway.
What the Psystar suit is about is that Apple doesn't want a whole series of small industries making unauthorized, unlicensed clones.
They would seem to have lost the first big battle, but they don't care about that.
They care about crushing clone-makers.
The great, great majority of users couldn't be bothered to worry about where to get wireless drivers and so on.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29880311</id>
	<title>Re:OS X on Mini 9</title>
	<author>CharlyFoxtrot</author>
	<datestamp>1256572260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm running Leopard (and Solaris) on an Acer Aspire One and it's amazing how well it runs on what's really the lowest of the low end especially when there's no chance of squeezing decent performance out of MS' latest offerings on the same hardware. Apple's definitely doing something right with their OS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm running Leopard ( and Solaris ) on an Acer Aspire One and it 's amazing how well it runs on what 's really the lowest of the low end especially when there 's no chance of squeezing decent performance out of MS ' latest offerings on the same hardware .
Apple 's definitely doing something right with their OS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm running Leopard (and Solaris) on an Acer Aspire One and it's amazing how well it runs on what's really the lowest of the low end especially when there's no chance of squeezing decent performance out of MS' latest offerings on the same hardware.
Apple's definitely doing something right with their OS.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29882455</id>
	<title>I don't get the point?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256650620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Getting behind Psystar is Pointless. What's the main argument against Macs? "I can't build whatever custom machine I want." Well if you don't build to the specs the Psystar machines have issues. The other argument is the fossilized argument that Macs are too expensive and probably overpriced. There are arguments for and against them being overpriced so that argument is a wash it's more about them servicing the low end market which they have always avoided. My ex business partner tried to save a buck. I needed a Mac Pro for editing. I was using a desktop Intel Mac but it was maxed out and it couldn't keep up. He insisted he knew some one that said they could build a Mac clone that was faster than "any" Mac. Well I let him order it and I expected the worst but gave it a chance. The thing was buggy and ran half as fast as my Intel iMac. It was half the price of the Mac Pro I needed but it wasn't half as good as an Intel iMac that was around the same price. He returned it and got a Mac Pro which ran like a champ. Moral of the story if you need a Mac then buy a Mac. If you don't and you are offended with the Apple business model buy a PC. There are an ocean of options out there including home built. I've got lots of issues with Apple and I'm hardly a fan but Psystar isn't striking a blow for freedom they are trying to leech off Apple. They built up a solid brand name and now Psystar wants some reflected glory to sell cheap knock offs. Apple tried letting another company clone and it was a royal headache and not profitable so they cut them off. The whole argument does seem pointless. Should Porsche be forced to sell bodies to a competitor who installs cheap under powered engines and poor suspensions and sell them as Porsches? A customer is going to be wildly unimpressed and it'll likely reflect back on Porsche. Apple wants quality control and their OS is not written as a commercial standalone product. Just look at the last upgrades. Microsoft is selling theirs for nearly 10X as much, I just priced out Windows 7 and had my breath taken away. Apple sells the Snow Leopard upgrade for about the price of a tank of gas. Can you see a sizable profit margin in them just selling OSs? Or would you be happier to have them just up their OS upgrade price ten fold? Even their full copy is cheap because even it is considered an upgrade since it's meant to go into a machine that's already licensed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Getting behind Psystar is Pointless .
What 's the main argument against Macs ?
" I ca n't build whatever custom machine I want .
" Well if you do n't build to the specs the Psystar machines have issues .
The other argument is the fossilized argument that Macs are too expensive and probably overpriced .
There are arguments for and against them being overpriced so that argument is a wash it 's more about them servicing the low end market which they have always avoided .
My ex business partner tried to save a buck .
I needed a Mac Pro for editing .
I was using a desktop Intel Mac but it was maxed out and it could n't keep up .
He insisted he knew some one that said they could build a Mac clone that was faster than " any " Mac .
Well I let him order it and I expected the worst but gave it a chance .
The thing was buggy and ran half as fast as my Intel iMac .
It was half the price of the Mac Pro I needed but it was n't half as good as an Intel iMac that was around the same price .
He returned it and got a Mac Pro which ran like a champ .
Moral of the story if you need a Mac then buy a Mac .
If you do n't and you are offended with the Apple business model buy a PC .
There are an ocean of options out there including home built .
I 've got lots of issues with Apple and I 'm hardly a fan but Psystar is n't striking a blow for freedom they are trying to leech off Apple .
They built up a solid brand name and now Psystar wants some reflected glory to sell cheap knock offs .
Apple tried letting another company clone and it was a royal headache and not profitable so they cut them off .
The whole argument does seem pointless .
Should Porsche be forced to sell bodies to a competitor who installs cheap under powered engines and poor suspensions and sell them as Porsches ?
A customer is going to be wildly unimpressed and it 'll likely reflect back on Porsche .
Apple wants quality control and their OS is not written as a commercial standalone product .
Just look at the last upgrades .
Microsoft is selling theirs for nearly 10X as much , I just priced out Windows 7 and had my breath taken away .
Apple sells the Snow Leopard upgrade for about the price of a tank of gas .
Can you see a sizable profit margin in them just selling OSs ?
Or would you be happier to have them just up their OS upgrade price ten fold ?
Even their full copy is cheap because even it is considered an upgrade since it 's meant to go into a machine that 's already licensed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Getting behind Psystar is Pointless.
What's the main argument against Macs?
"I can't build whatever custom machine I want.
" Well if you don't build to the specs the Psystar machines have issues.
The other argument is the fossilized argument that Macs are too expensive and probably overpriced.
There are arguments for and against them being overpriced so that argument is a wash it's more about them servicing the low end market which they have always avoided.
My ex business partner tried to save a buck.
I needed a Mac Pro for editing.
I was using a desktop Intel Mac but it was maxed out and it couldn't keep up.
He insisted he knew some one that said they could build a Mac clone that was faster than "any" Mac.
Well I let him order it and I expected the worst but gave it a chance.
The thing was buggy and ran half as fast as my Intel iMac.
It was half the price of the Mac Pro I needed but it wasn't half as good as an Intel iMac that was around the same price.
He returned it and got a Mac Pro which ran like a champ.
Moral of the story if you need a Mac then buy a Mac.
If you don't and you are offended with the Apple business model buy a PC.
There are an ocean of options out there including home built.
I've got lots of issues with Apple and I'm hardly a fan but Psystar isn't striking a blow for freedom they are trying to leech off Apple.
They built up a solid brand name and now Psystar wants some reflected glory to sell cheap knock offs.
Apple tried letting another company clone and it was a royal headache and not profitable so they cut them off.
The whole argument does seem pointless.
Should Porsche be forced to sell bodies to a competitor who installs cheap under powered engines and poor suspensions and sell them as Porsches?
A customer is going to be wildly unimpressed and it'll likely reflect back on Porsche.
Apple wants quality control and their OS is not written as a commercial standalone product.
Just look at the last upgrades.
Microsoft is selling theirs for nearly 10X as much, I just priced out Windows 7 and had my breath taken away.
Apple sells the Snow Leopard upgrade for about the price of a tank of gas.
Can you see a sizable profit margin in them just selling OSs?
Or would you be happier to have them just up their OS upgrade price ten fold?
Even their full copy is cheap because even it is considered an upgrade since it's meant to go into a machine that's already licensed.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29881551</id>
	<title>Re:Apple should be concerned...</title>
	<author>falconwolf</author>
	<datestamp>1256635440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>On the same token, it seems these days a lot of add-on hardware is Mac compatible, hard drives, memory, video cards, sound cards, the list goes on.</i></p><p>Are you saying Apple uses parts from a bunch of component manufacturers?  I can get a Mac with the disk drive I want?  That's funny because when I ordered my Mac I had little choice as to what the HDD was.  Then when I wanted to upgrade the disk after 1 1/2 years, Apple sent me to an Apple authorized service center to swap the hdd because they don't do that stuff.  Or take the video card, only the Mac Pro gives a choice as to graphics card.  Currently the <a href="http://www.apple.com/macpro/features/graphics.html" title="apple.com">Mac Pro</a> [apple.com] comes standard with the NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 with 512MB of GDDR3.  It can be upgraded to an ATI Radeon HD 4870 with 512MB of GDDR5 memory or an NVIDIA GeForce GT 120.  That's only 3 graphics cards.  The list goes on.</p><p><i>Again, IANAMU, does Apple's support coverage encompass machines with things like user-added memory &amp; videocards?</i></p><p>No, when I had my HDD swapped Apple told me that if I have any problem and they determine it's the HDD they will not support it.  They told me the installer would have to service it.</p><p>That is actually one of the biggest problems I've heard from people, that Macs are not highly customizable.  Another is a mid range expandable tower.</p><p>

Falcon</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On the same token , it seems these days a lot of add-on hardware is Mac compatible , hard drives , memory , video cards , sound cards , the list goes on.Are you saying Apple uses parts from a bunch of component manufacturers ?
I can get a Mac with the disk drive I want ?
That 's funny because when I ordered my Mac I had little choice as to what the HDD was .
Then when I wanted to upgrade the disk after 1 1/2 years , Apple sent me to an Apple authorized service center to swap the hdd because they do n't do that stuff .
Or take the video card , only the Mac Pro gives a choice as to graphics card .
Currently the Mac Pro [ apple.com ] comes standard with the NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 with 512MB of GDDR3 .
It can be upgraded to an ATI Radeon HD 4870 with 512MB of GDDR5 memory or an NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 .
That 's only 3 graphics cards .
The list goes on.Again , IANAMU , does Apple 's support coverage encompass machines with things like user-added memory &amp; videocards ? No , when I had my HDD swapped Apple told me that if I have any problem and they determine it 's the HDD they will not support it .
They told me the installer would have to service it.That is actually one of the biggest problems I 've heard from people , that Macs are not highly customizable .
Another is a mid range expandable tower .
Falcon</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the same token, it seems these days a lot of add-on hardware is Mac compatible, hard drives, memory, video cards, sound cards, the list goes on.Are you saying Apple uses parts from a bunch of component manufacturers?
I can get a Mac with the disk drive I want?
That's funny because when I ordered my Mac I had little choice as to what the HDD was.
Then when I wanted to upgrade the disk after 1 1/2 years, Apple sent me to an Apple authorized service center to swap the hdd because they don't do that stuff.
Or take the video card, only the Mac Pro gives a choice as to graphics card.
Currently the Mac Pro [apple.com] comes standard with the NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 with 512MB of GDDR3.
It can be upgraded to an ATI Radeon HD 4870 with 512MB of GDDR5 memory or an NVIDIA GeForce GT 120.
That's only 3 graphics cards.
The list goes on.Again, IANAMU, does Apple's support coverage encompass machines with things like user-added memory &amp; videocards?No, when I had my HDD swapped Apple told me that if I have any problem and they determine it's the HDD they will not support it.
They told me the installer would have to service it.That is actually one of the biggest problems I've heard from people, that Macs are not highly customizable.
Another is a mid range expandable tower.
Falcon</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29880811</id>
	<title>Re:What I Find Interesting...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256578680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Fuck Them.</p><p>Why? Not because they might be standing up to Cupertino's Darling,<br>but because they have stolen code from those who would release it or free - to sell it.</p><p>As a certain luminary in OSX86 community might have put it - "Parasites, such parasites."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fuck Them.Why ?
Not because they might be standing up to Cupertino 's Darling,but because they have stolen code from those who would release it or free - to sell it.As a certain luminary in OSX86 community might have put it - " Parasites , such parasites .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fuck Them.Why?
Not because they might be standing up to Cupertino's Darling,but because they have stolen code from those who would release it or free - to sell it.As a certain luminary in OSX86 community might have put it - "Parasites, such parasites.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29882179</id>
	<title>Re:So in other words...</title>
	<author>Shadowmist</author>
	<datestamp>1256647020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually Apple can get them for just installing the Mac OS on non-Mac hardware.  That alone breaks the End User License Agreement.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually Apple can get them for just installing the Mac OS on non-Mac hardware .
That alone breaks the End User License Agreement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually Apple can get them for just installing the Mac OS on non-Mac hardware.
That alone breaks the End User License Agreement.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29884099</id>
	<title>disappointed? wtf?</title>
	<author>inerlogic</author>
	<datestamp>1256659680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"but unless you stick to relatively generic hardware, you will be disappointed"<br><br>HELLO.... you're sitting in a chair at 30,000ft traveling 500MPH....<br><br>http://vodpod.com/watch/1335606-louis-ck-everythings-amazing-nobodys-happy</htmltext>
<tokenext>" but unless you stick to relatively generic hardware , you will be disappointed " HELLO.... you 're sitting in a chair at 30,000ft traveling 500MPH....http : //vodpod.com/watch/1335606-louis-ck-everythings-amazing-nobodys-happy</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"but unless you stick to relatively generic hardware, you will be disappointed"HELLO.... you're sitting in a chair at 30,000ft traveling 500MPH....http://vodpod.com/watch/1335606-louis-ck-everythings-amazing-nobodys-happy</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879877</id>
	<title>Re:Apple should be concerned...</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1256566980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As long as Apple doesn't say a word in favor of this stuff (thereby making it mainstream and accepted), they can refuse to support OSX on other hardware and take only a minor PR hit - if you're a hack(intosh)er, it's expected that you do things yourself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As long as Apple does n't say a word in favor of this stuff ( thereby making it mainstream and accepted ) , they can refuse to support OSX on other hardware and take only a minor PR hit - if you 're a hack ( intosh ) er , it 's expected that you do things yourself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As long as Apple doesn't say a word in favor of this stuff (thereby making it mainstream and accepted), they can refuse to support OSX on other hardware and take only a minor PR hit - if you're a hack(intosh)er, it's expected that you do things yourself.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879709</id>
	<title>Re:Virtualization</title>
	<author>QuantumG</author>
	<datestamp>1256565480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>done it: <a href="http://quantumg.net/tigeronvmware.php" title="quantumg.net">http://quantumg.net/tigeronvmware.php</a> [quantumg.net]  deleted the image shortly after.. yawn.</p><p>Maybe if there was some place I could go to get up-to-date torrents of vmware images I might care, for the novelty.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>done it : http : //quantumg.net/tigeronvmware.php [ quantumg.net ] deleted the image shortly after.. yawn.Maybe if there was some place I could go to get up-to-date torrents of vmware images I might care , for the novelty .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>done it: http://quantumg.net/tigeronvmware.php [quantumg.net]  deleted the image shortly after.. yawn.Maybe if there was some place I could go to get up-to-date torrents of vmware images I might care, for the novelty.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29880891</id>
	<title>ma7h pr00f</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256579760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>13<br>22<br>1,3 -/- 1,3<br>1,3 - 2<br>#2 &gt;= #1+#3 c0n7r4d1c710n</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>13221,3 -/- 1,31,3 - 2 # 2 &gt; = # 1 + # 3 c0n7r4d1c710n</tokentext>
<sentencetext>13221,3 -/- 1,31,3 - 2#2 &gt;= #1+#3 c0n7r4d1c710n</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879537</id>
	<title>Torrent for the registered version?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256563980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I mean really, should I feel badly about pirating something that already breaks the rules?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I mean really , should I feel badly about pirating something that already breaks the rules ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I mean really, should I feel badly about pirating something that already breaks the rules?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879635</id>
	<title>Re:Virtualization</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256564820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can run a virtual Mac in qemu using the "-M mac" option.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can run a virtual Mac in qemu using the " -M mac " option .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can run a virtual Mac in qemu using the "-M mac" option.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29880535</id>
	<title>Re:Athiests as a Majority</title>
	<author>obarthelemy</author>
	<datestamp>1256574720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does that Christian university STILL have that course that gives credit for Christian postings on "difficult" websites ? Do they have an integrated kindergarten ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does that Christian university STILL have that course that gives credit for Christian postings on " difficult " websites ?
Do they have an integrated kindergarten ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does that Christian university STILL have that course that gives credit for Christian postings on "difficult" websites ?
Do they have an integrated kindergarten ?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29881933</id>
	<title>Re:[sigh]</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256642520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mac OS X's operating system is XNU. The XNU is the operating system (so called "hybrid kernel"). The XNU operating system kernel is a Mach 3.0. Mach 3.0 is just a microkernel and all other OS parts (servers) are from the (Free)BSD (networking, filesystems etc) and Driver I/O Kit.</p><p>The Darwin is then a XNU operating system + development tools. You need to darwin to get the XNU operating system compiled so it will work with the Mac OS X API's.</p><p>If you want, you can just compile the Mach 3.0 microkernel, while leaving all other OS parts (XNU) in touch.</p><p><a href="http://cs.nyu.edu/~pcg234/xeniac/compile\_darwin\_x86.html" title="nyu.edu" rel="nofollow">http://cs.nyu.edu/~pcg234/xeniac/compile\_darwin\_x86.html</a> [nyu.edu]</p><p><a href="http://dinomite.net/2006/darwin-kernel-compile/" title="dinomite.net" rel="nofollow">http://dinomite.net/2006/darwin-kernel-compile/</a> [dinomite.net]</p><p><a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Diagram\_of\_Mac\_OS\_X\_architecture.svg/556px-Diagram\_of\_Mac\_OS\_X\_architecture.svg.png" title="wikimedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Diagram\_of\_Mac\_OS\_X\_architecture.svg/556px-Diagram\_of\_Mac\_OS\_X\_architecture.svg.png</a> [wikimedia.org] (even that it has GNU-like propaganda in it)</p><p>Even GNU's own operating system Hurd, use derivated  Mach 3.0 microkernel what is called "GNU Mach". GNU Mach is the kernel of the Hurd operating system what is part of GNU/Hurd development environment. All other Hurd OS parts are written by GNU people but the microkernel is copied from Mach 3.0.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mac OS X 's operating system is XNU .
The XNU is the operating system ( so called " hybrid kernel " ) .
The XNU operating system kernel is a Mach 3.0 .
Mach 3.0 is just a microkernel and all other OS parts ( servers ) are from the ( Free ) BSD ( networking , filesystems etc ) and Driver I/O Kit.The Darwin is then a XNU operating system + development tools .
You need to darwin to get the XNU operating system compiled so it will work with the Mac OS X API 's.If you want , you can just compile the Mach 3.0 microkernel , while leaving all other OS parts ( XNU ) in touch.http : //cs.nyu.edu/ ~ pcg234/xeniac/compile \ _darwin \ _x86.html [ nyu.edu ] http : //dinomite.net/2006/darwin-kernel-compile/ [ dinomite.net ] http : //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Diagram \ _of \ _Mac \ _OS \ _X \ _architecture.svg/556px-Diagram \ _of \ _Mac \ _OS \ _X \ _architecture.svg.png [ wikimedia.org ] ( even that it has GNU-like propaganda in it ) Even GNU 's own operating system Hurd , use derivated Mach 3.0 microkernel what is called " GNU Mach " .
GNU Mach is the kernel of the Hurd operating system what is part of GNU/Hurd development environment .
All other Hurd OS parts are written by GNU people but the microkernel is copied from Mach 3.0 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mac OS X's operating system is XNU.
The XNU is the operating system (so called "hybrid kernel").
The XNU operating system kernel is a Mach 3.0.
Mach 3.0 is just a microkernel and all other OS parts (servers) are from the (Free)BSD (networking, filesystems etc) and Driver I/O Kit.The Darwin is then a XNU operating system + development tools.
You need to darwin to get the XNU operating system compiled so it will work with the Mac OS X API's.If you want, you can just compile the Mach 3.0 microkernel, while leaving all other OS parts (XNU) in touch.http://cs.nyu.edu/~pcg234/xeniac/compile\_darwin\_x86.html [nyu.edu]http://dinomite.net/2006/darwin-kernel-compile/ [dinomite.net]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Diagram\_of\_Mac\_OS\_X\_architecture.svg/556px-Diagram\_of\_Mac\_OS\_X\_architecture.svg.png [wikimedia.org] (even that it has GNU-like propaganda in it)Even GNU's own operating system Hurd, use derivated  Mach 3.0 microkernel what is called "GNU Mach".
GNU Mach is the kernel of the Hurd operating system what is part of GNU/Hurd development environment.
All other Hurd OS parts are written by GNU people but the microkernel is copied from Mach 3.0.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29880693</id>
	<title>Re:The problem...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256577060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bought a Mac, I'm pretty happy with it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bought a Mac , I 'm pretty happy with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bought a Mac, I'm pretty happy with it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879385</id>
	<title>Athiests as a Majority</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256562780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is what it would be like, if the majority of people were athiests.</p><p>ATHIEST KID: Mom, I'm going to go fuck a hooker.<br>ATHIEST MOM: Okay, son.<br>ATHIEST KID: Afterwards, I'm going to go smoke pot with my friends, since it's "not addictive."<br>ATHIEST MOM: Okay, come home soon!</p><p>The athiest kid leaves the room. The father comes home from work several minutes later.</p><p>ATHIEST DAD: Hey!<br>ATHIEST MOM: Hi, honey! I'm pregnant again. I guess I'll just get another abortion, since "fetuses don't count as human life."<br>ATHIEST DAD: Okay, get as many abortions as you want!<br>ATHIEST MOM: Oh, and don't go in the bedroom.<br>ATHIEST DAD: Why not?<br>ATHIEST MOM: There are two gay men fucking eachother in there.<br>ATHIEST DAD: Why are they here?<br>ATHIEST MOM: I wanted to watch them do it for awhile. They just aren't finished yet.<br>ATHIEST DAD: Okay, that's fine with me!</p><p>Suddenly, their neighbor runs into the house.</p><p>ATHIEST NEIGHBOR: Come quick, there's a Christian outside!<br>ATHIEST MOM: We'll be right there!</p><p>The athiest couple quickly put on a pair of black robes and hoods. They then exit the house, and run into the street, where a Christian is nailed to a large, wooden X. He is being burned alive. A crowd of athiests stand around him, all wearing black robes and hoods.</p><p>RANDOM ATHIEST: Damn you, Christian! We hate you! We claim to be tolerant of all religions. But we really hate your's! That's because we athiests are hypocritical like that! Die, Christian!</p><p>THE END</p><p>Scary, isn't it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is what it would be like , if the majority of people were athiests.ATHIEST KID : Mom , I 'm going to go fuck a hooker.ATHIEST MOM : Okay , son.ATHIEST KID : Afterwards , I 'm going to go smoke pot with my friends , since it 's " not addictive .
" ATHIEST MOM : Okay , come home soon ! The athiest kid leaves the room .
The father comes home from work several minutes later.ATHIEST DAD : Hey ! ATHIEST MOM : Hi , honey !
I 'm pregnant again .
I guess I 'll just get another abortion , since " fetuses do n't count as human life .
" ATHIEST DAD : Okay , get as many abortions as you want ! ATHIEST MOM : Oh , and do n't go in the bedroom.ATHIEST DAD : Why not ? ATHIEST MOM : There are two gay men fucking eachother in there.ATHIEST DAD : Why are they here ? ATHIEST MOM : I wanted to watch them do it for awhile .
They just are n't finished yet.ATHIEST DAD : Okay , that 's fine with me ! Suddenly , their neighbor runs into the house.ATHIEST NEIGHBOR : Come quick , there 's a Christian outside ! ATHIEST MOM : We 'll be right there ! The athiest couple quickly put on a pair of black robes and hoods .
They then exit the house , and run into the street , where a Christian is nailed to a large , wooden X. He is being burned alive .
A crowd of athiests stand around him , all wearing black robes and hoods.RANDOM ATHIEST : Damn you , Christian !
We hate you !
We claim to be tolerant of all religions .
But we really hate your 's !
That 's because we athiests are hypocritical like that !
Die , Christian ! THE ENDScary , is n't it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is what it would be like, if the majority of people were athiests.ATHIEST KID: Mom, I'm going to go fuck a hooker.ATHIEST MOM: Okay, son.ATHIEST KID: Afterwards, I'm going to go smoke pot with my friends, since it's "not addictive.
"ATHIEST MOM: Okay, come home soon!The athiest kid leaves the room.
The father comes home from work several minutes later.ATHIEST DAD: Hey!ATHIEST MOM: Hi, honey!
I'm pregnant again.
I guess I'll just get another abortion, since "fetuses don't count as human life.
"ATHIEST DAD: Okay, get as many abortions as you want!ATHIEST MOM: Oh, and don't go in the bedroom.ATHIEST DAD: Why not?ATHIEST MOM: There are two gay men fucking eachother in there.ATHIEST DAD: Why are they here?ATHIEST MOM: I wanted to watch them do it for awhile.
They just aren't finished yet.ATHIEST DAD: Okay, that's fine with me!Suddenly, their neighbor runs into the house.ATHIEST NEIGHBOR: Come quick, there's a Christian outside!ATHIEST MOM: We'll be right there!The athiest couple quickly put on a pair of black robes and hoods.
They then exit the house, and run into the street, where a Christian is nailed to a large, wooden X. He is being burned alive.
A crowd of athiests stand around him, all wearing black robes and hoods.RANDOM ATHIEST: Damn you, Christian!
We hate you!
We claim to be tolerant of all religions.
But we really hate your's!
That's because we athiests are hypocritical like that!
Die, Christian!THE ENDScary, isn't it?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29888141</id>
	<title>Re:Virtualization</title>
	<author>fredc97</author>
	<datestamp>1256676960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have tried rebel with both Leopoard and Snow Leopard under VMWare Server 2.0 and unfortunately it does not work.</p><p>It is unfortunate because it would open MAC OS to the enterprise market which it currectly does not possess.</p><p>I am sure an army of web dev would love to test their site under OSX in their corporate environment without having to justify the cost of 'specialized' Apple hardware.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have tried rebel with both Leopoard and Snow Leopard under VMWare Server 2.0 and unfortunately it does not work.It is unfortunate because it would open MAC OS to the enterprise market which it currectly does not possess.I am sure an army of web dev would love to test their site under OSX in their corporate environment without having to justify the cost of 'specialized ' Apple hardware .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have tried rebel with both Leopoard and Snow Leopard under VMWare Server 2.0 and unfortunately it does not work.It is unfortunate because it would open MAC OS to the enterprise market which it currectly does not possess.I am sure an army of web dev would love to test their site under OSX in their corporate environment without having to justify the cost of 'specialized' Apple hardware.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29941627</id>
	<title>Re:Athiests as a Majority</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257090960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't share your belief, there are plenty of people in this world who are that retarded, but it is unlikely that any of them would be able to write that well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't share your belief , there are plenty of people in this world who are that retarded , but it is unlikely that any of them would be able to write that well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't share your belief, there are plenty of people in this world who are that retarded, but it is unlikely that any of them would be able to write that well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879569</id>
	<title>Re:Virtualization</title>
	<author>rfuilrez</author>
	<datestamp>1256564220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://pcwizcomputer.com/index.php?option=com\_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=75&amp;Itemid=45" title="pcwizcomputer.com" rel="nofollow">http://pcwizcomputer.com/index.php?option=com\_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=75&amp;Itemid=45</a> [pcwizcomputer.com] You can give that link a try. pcwiz does some good stuff within the OSx86 community. I'm not sure if he's gotten Snow Leopard running, but I've seen Leopard running inside VMware. There's also a VMWare image you might still be able to find on torrent sites, so you don't have to actually do the install. Not sure if it's still around though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //pcwizcomputer.com/index.php ? option = com \ _content&amp;task = view&amp;id = 75&amp;Itemid = 45 [ pcwizcomputer.com ] You can give that link a try .
pcwiz does some good stuff within the OSx86 community .
I 'm not sure if he 's gotten Snow Leopard running , but I 've seen Leopard running inside VMware .
There 's also a VMWare image you might still be able to find on torrent sites , so you do n't have to actually do the install .
Not sure if it 's still around though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://pcwizcomputer.com/index.php?option=com\_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=75&amp;Itemid=45 [pcwizcomputer.com] You can give that link a try.
pcwiz does some good stuff within the OSx86 community.
I'm not sure if he's gotten Snow Leopard running, but I've seen Leopard running inside VMware.
There's also a VMWare image you might still be able to find on torrent sites, so you don't have to actually do the install.
Not sure if it's still around though.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29882953</id>
	<title>Re:Apple should be concerned...</title>
	<author>petermgreen</author>
	<datestamp>1256653860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>even the macs that can take graphics card upgrades (the mac pro, the xserve and if you can find the right cards which are like hens teeth some of the imacs) macs are very fussy about graphics cards. You need a mac specific firmware on the card and iirc there are some compatibility issues between versions (I think it depends on whether the mac is 32-bit EFI or 64-bit EFI but i'm not positive)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>even the macs that can take graphics card upgrades ( the mac pro , the xserve and if you can find the right cards which are like hens teeth some of the imacs ) macs are very fussy about graphics cards .
You need a mac specific firmware on the card and iirc there are some compatibility issues between versions ( I think it depends on whether the mac is 32-bit EFI or 64-bit EFI but i 'm not positive )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>even the macs that can take graphics card upgrades (the mac pro, the xserve and if you can find the right cards which are like hens teeth some of the imacs) macs are very fussy about graphics cards.
You need a mac specific firmware on the card and iirc there are some compatibility issues between versions (I think it depends on whether the mac is 32-bit EFI or 64-bit EFI but i'm not positive)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29880575</id>
	<title>No threat at all</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1256575380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Psystar quietly launched Rebel EFI, a software product that should worry Apple a lot more than Microsoft's latest operating system. Rebel EFI allows users to run Apple's flagship operating system, Mac OS X Snow Leopard, on non-Apple hardware.</i> </p><p>The Hackintosh is a system-builder project for the geek.</p><p>The only thing that can hurt Apple is competition from the OEM and retail giants.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Psystar quietly launched Rebel EFI , a software product that should worry Apple a lot more than Microsoft 's latest operating system .
Rebel EFI allows users to run Apple 's flagship operating system , Mac OS X Snow Leopard , on non-Apple hardware .
The Hackintosh is a system-builder project for the geek.The only thing that can hurt Apple is competition from the OEM and retail giants .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Psystar quietly launched Rebel EFI, a software product that should worry Apple a lot more than Microsoft's latest operating system.
Rebel EFI allows users to run Apple's flagship operating system, Mac OS X Snow Leopard, on non-Apple hardware.
The Hackintosh is a system-builder project for the geek.The only thing that can hurt Apple is competition from the OEM and retail giants.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29880341</id>
	<title>Re:OS X on Mini 9</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256572620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I got Dell Mini 9 last spring but it was almost unusable with WinXP due to the screen resolution and sluggishness of Windows on Atom CPU. Later I installed Mac OS X 10.5.7 and then 10.5.8 with EFI and it completely changed usability problems I had with the netbook. And no, I didn't copy that floppy but rather bought Leopard DVD from Apple.<br>This is an intermediate solution because I'm still waiting for a netbook or a 4x iPhone-type panel from Apple. Once I put my hands on it I will certainly sell this Dell.</p></div><p> <i>"ZOMG! My blender wasn't working well, until I installed Mac OS X, now I also can use it as a karaoke machine!"</i> </p><p>So your Mac OS improved your screen resolution?<br>Seriously, I don't think you're talking about issues with the OS, but the bloated systems Dell and other manufacturers sell, and the awful anti-virus software that requires at least 2 cores.<br>Don't mix the two things.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I got Dell Mini 9 last spring but it was almost unusable with WinXP due to the screen resolution and sluggishness of Windows on Atom CPU .
Later I installed Mac OS X 10.5.7 and then 10.5.8 with EFI and it completely changed usability problems I had with the netbook .
And no , I did n't copy that floppy but rather bought Leopard DVD from Apple.This is an intermediate solution because I 'm still waiting for a netbook or a 4x iPhone-type panel from Apple .
Once I put my hands on it I will certainly sell this Dell .
" ZOMG ! My blender was n't working well , until I installed Mac OS X , now I also can use it as a karaoke machine !
" So your Mac OS improved your screen resolution ? Seriously , I do n't think you 're talking about issues with the OS , but the bloated systems Dell and other manufacturers sell , and the awful anti-virus software that requires at least 2 cores.Do n't mix the two things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got Dell Mini 9 last spring but it was almost unusable with WinXP due to the screen resolution and sluggishness of Windows on Atom CPU.
Later I installed Mac OS X 10.5.7 and then 10.5.8 with EFI and it completely changed usability problems I had with the netbook.
And no, I didn't copy that floppy but rather bought Leopard DVD from Apple.This is an intermediate solution because I'm still waiting for a netbook or a 4x iPhone-type panel from Apple.
Once I put my hands on it I will certainly sell this Dell.
"ZOMG! My blender wasn't working well, until I installed Mac OS X, now I also can use it as a karaoke machine!
" So your Mac OS improved your screen resolution?Seriously, I don't think you're talking about issues with the OS, but the bloated systems Dell and other manufacturers sell, and the awful anti-virus software that requires at least 2 cores.Don't mix the two things.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29882731</id>
	<title>Re:Virtualization</title>
	<author>LanMan04</author>
	<datestamp>1256652480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>www.browsercam.com</p><p>Much cheaper was to check web compatibility.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>www.browsercam.comMuch cheaper was to check web compatibility .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>www.browsercam.comMuch cheaper was to check web compatibility.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29887491</id>
	<title>Re:whats the point?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256674260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Why not just buy a mac?</p><p>My husband and me have 2 MacbookPro, 1 Macbook Air, 1 MacMini.<br>I wanted a Macbook/Netbook smaller than the Air for private travelling.<br>Apple didn't have any. So I bought an eeePC901go.<br>I know of 5 people who have an eeeMac now, all of them already own a regular Mac.</p><p>Apple didn't offer what I wanted.<br>Do you get it now?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Why not just buy a mac ? My husband and me have 2 MacbookPro , 1 Macbook Air , 1 MacMini.I wanted a Macbook/Netbook smaller than the Air for private travelling.Apple did n't have any .
So I bought an eeePC901go.I know of 5 people who have an eeeMac now , all of them already own a regular Mac.Apple did n't offer what I wanted.Do you get it now ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Why not just buy a mac?My husband and me have 2 MacbookPro, 1 Macbook Air, 1 MacMini.I wanted a Macbook/Netbook smaller than the Air for private travelling.Apple didn't have any.
So I bought an eeePC901go.I know of 5 people who have an eeeMac now, all of them already own a regular Mac.Apple didn't offer what I wanted.Do you get it now?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29881571</id>
	<title>Re:non-Apple hardware?</title>
	<author>dangitman</author>
	<datestamp>1256635740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Since when is it "apple hardware" all a mac is, is just a pc parts in a flashy case with the apple logo stamped on it.</p> </div><p>A flashy case? I don't think so. Apple uses minimalist, understated case designs. A "flashy case" would be a gamer rig with neon lights and transparent sides, or that Ferrari laptop that goes "vrooom vrooom" when you start it up. </p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since when is it " apple hardware " all a mac is , is just a pc parts in a flashy case with the apple logo stamped on it .
A flashy case ?
I do n't think so .
Apple uses minimalist , understated case designs .
A " flashy case " would be a gamer rig with neon lights and transparent sides , or that Ferrari laptop that goes " vrooom vrooom " when you start it up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since when is it "apple hardware" all a mac is, is just a pc parts in a flashy case with the apple logo stamped on it.
A flashy case?
I don't think so.
Apple uses minimalist, understated case designs.
A "flashy case" would be a gamer rig with neon lights and transparent sides, or that Ferrari laptop that goes "vrooom vrooom" when you start it up. 
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29880603</id>
	<title>Re:What I Find Interesting...</title>
	<author>CharlyFoxtrot</author>
	<datestamp>1256575920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The conspiracy theory is that Psystar is funded by "other companies." Even Apple has <a href="http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20081202230318899" title="groklaw.net">claimed</a> [groklaw.net] this in their complaint against them in court<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:</p><p>"18. On information and belief, persons other than Psystar are involved in Psystar&rsquo;s unlawful and improper activities described in this Amended Complaint. The true names or capacities, whether individual, corporate, or otherwise, of these persons are unknown to Apple. Consequently they are referred to herein as John Does 1 through 10 (collectively the &ldquo;John Doe Defendants&rdquo;). On information and belief, the John Doe Defendants are various individuals and/or corporations who have infringed Apple&rsquo;s intellectual property rights, breached or induced the breach of Apple&rsquo;s license agreements and violated state and common law unfair competition laws."</p><p>I don't think I have to spell out who the usual suspects are.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The conspiracy theory is that Psystar is funded by " other companies .
" Even Apple has claimed [ groklaw.net ] this in their complaint against them in court : " 18 .
On information and belief , persons other than Psystar are involved in Psystar    s unlawful and improper activities described in this Amended Complaint .
The true names or capacities , whether individual , corporate , or otherwise , of these persons are unknown to Apple .
Consequently they are referred to herein as John Does 1 through 10 ( collectively the    John Doe Defendants    ) .
On information and belief , the John Doe Defendants are various individuals and/or corporations who have infringed Apple    s intellectual property rights , breached or induced the breach of Apple    s license agreements and violated state and common law unfair competition laws .
" I do n't think I have to spell out who the usual suspects are .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The conspiracy theory is that Psystar is funded by "other companies.
" Even Apple has claimed [groklaw.net] this in their complaint against them in court :"18.
On information and belief, persons other than Psystar are involved in Psystar’s unlawful and improper activities described in this Amended Complaint.
The true names or capacities, whether individual, corporate, or otherwise, of these persons are unknown to Apple.
Consequently they are referred to herein as John Does 1 through 10 (collectively the “John Doe Defendants”).
On information and belief, the John Doe Defendants are various individuals and/or corporations who have infringed Apple’s intellectual property rights, breached or induced the breach of Apple’s license agreements and violated state and common law unfair competition laws.
"I don't think I have to spell out who the usual suspects are.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29880967</id>
	<title>Re:The problem...</title>
	<author>MBGMorden</author>
	<datestamp>1256581200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>and people will have a system where any software update could brick their computer.</p></div><p>Damn you.  I had gone for weeks now without hearing somebody refer to a purely software issue as "bricking" anything.  I thought that meme was over, and you just had to prove otherwise.</p><p>I swear it's like being in a Romero movie after you think all the zombies were wiped out months ago and seeing one stumble out of a restroom at an old gas station.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>and people will have a system where any software update could brick their computer.Damn you .
I had gone for weeks now without hearing somebody refer to a purely software issue as " bricking " anything .
I thought that meme was over , and you just had to prove otherwise.I swear it 's like being in a Romero movie after you think all the zombies were wiped out months ago and seeing one stumble out of a restroom at an old gas station .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and people will have a system where any software update could brick their computer.Damn you.
I had gone for weeks now without hearing somebody refer to a purely software issue as "bricking" anything.
I thought that meme was over, and you just had to prove otherwise.I swear it's like being in a Romero movie after you think all the zombies were wiped out months ago and seeing one stumble out of a restroom at an old gas station.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879939</id>
	<title>Re:non-Apple hardware?</title>
	<author>lwsimon</author>
	<datestamp>1256567760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You have to give them credit for their attention to detail on the case design.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You have to give them credit for their attention to detail on the case design .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have to give them credit for their attention to detail on the case design.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29881897</id>
	<title>Re:So in other words...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256641920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is not a clone of OS-X. It's not even OS-X. It's more like a BIOS emulator, but the EFI "next gen BIOS", which was created as a standard by Intel (among others) for Itanium machines.</p><p>Seems that they are trying to avoid Apple lawsuits by removing Apple entirely from the picture. When they are only selling the EFI emulator and not OS-X, how can Apple do anything to stop them? The customer would then have to buy first the EFI emulator from Psystar and then OS-X from Apple.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is not a clone of OS-X .
It 's not even OS-X .
It 's more like a BIOS emulator , but the EFI " next gen BIOS " , which was created as a standard by Intel ( among others ) for Itanium machines.Seems that they are trying to avoid Apple lawsuits by removing Apple entirely from the picture .
When they are only selling the EFI emulator and not OS-X , how can Apple do anything to stop them ?
The customer would then have to buy first the EFI emulator from Psystar and then OS-X from Apple .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is not a clone of OS-X.
It's not even OS-X.
It's more like a BIOS emulator, but the EFI "next gen BIOS", which was created as a standard by Intel (among others) for Itanium machines.Seems that they are trying to avoid Apple lawsuits by removing Apple entirely from the picture.
When they are only selling the EFI emulator and not OS-X, how can Apple do anything to stop them?
The customer would then have to buy first the EFI emulator from Psystar and then OS-X from Apple.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879665</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29881561</id>
	<title>Re:What I Find Interesting...</title>
	<author>dangitman</author>
	<datestamp>1256635560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Good for them.</p></div><p>Huh, why good? I don't think it's good when shady dishonest businesses stay in business.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Good for them.Huh , why good ?
I do n't think it 's good when shady dishonest businesses stay in business .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good for them.Huh, why good?
I don't think it's good when shady dishonest businesses stay in business.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879655</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879873</id>
	<title>Re:What I Find Interesting...</title>
	<author>sbeckstead</author>
	<datestamp>1256566980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The corpse won't die until the sundown after the suit actually gets into court apparently, Psystar's lawyers are great at delays so far.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The corpse wo n't die until the sundown after the suit actually gets into court apparently , Psystar 's lawyers are great at delays so far .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The corpse won't die until the sundown after the suit actually gets into court apparently, Psystar's lawyers are great at delays so far.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879655</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29881465</id>
	<title>Re:The problem...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256676960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>...with your post is that you don't grasp what the subject is. Here's a good one you could have used: "Turns into cat-and-mouse game". That wasn't so hard, was it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>...with your post is that you do n't grasp what the subject is .
Here 's a good one you could have used : " Turns into cat-and-mouse game " .
That was n't so hard , was it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...with your post is that you don't grasp what the subject is.
Here's a good one you could have used: "Turns into cat-and-mouse game".
That wasn't so hard, was it?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879421</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29880957</id>
	<title>Re:OS X on Mini 9</title>
	<author>metrix007</author>
	<datestamp>1256580960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or Android? Or Ubuntu? Why does it have to be Apple?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or Android ?
Or Ubuntu ?
Why does it have to be Apple ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or Android?
Or Ubuntu?
Why does it have to be Apple?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879845</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879705</id>
	<title>Re:Athiests as a Majority</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256565420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sir.  You are not supposed to drink the bong water.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sir .
You are not supposed to drink the bong water .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sir.
You are not supposed to drink the bong water.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879385</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29880129</id>
	<title>USB DVD not supported ?</title>
	<author>fredc97</author>
	<datestamp>1256569860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have just tried the Rebel EFI boot CD and so far not luck in booting from a USB DVD Burner on a Core 2 Duo.</p><p>My guess and from some reading it seems to require a standard SATA (is IDE supported ?) DVD drive...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have just tried the Rebel EFI boot CD and so far not luck in booting from a USB DVD Burner on a Core 2 Duo.My guess and from some reading it seems to require a standard SATA ( is IDE supported ?
) DVD drive.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have just tried the Rebel EFI boot CD and so far not luck in booting from a USB DVD Burner on a Core 2 Duo.My guess and from some reading it seems to require a standard SATA (is IDE supported ?
) DVD drive...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29882763</id>
	<title>whats the point?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256652600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't get it. Why not just buy a mac?</p><p>Seems like a lot of unnecessary effort to achieve something that is less than Windows on a PC or OSX on a Mac.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't get it .
Why not just buy a mac ? Seems like a lot of unnecessary effort to achieve something that is less than Windows on a PC or OSX on a Mac .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't get it.
Why not just buy a mac?Seems like a lot of unnecessary effort to achieve something that is less than Windows on a PC or OSX on a Mac.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29897571</id>
	<title>VirtualBox</title>
	<author>ResidentSourcerer</author>
	<datestamp>1256745780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I downloaded the ISO.  Attempted to boot it under Sun<br>virtualbox.</p><p>Alas.  All I get is a blinking underscore.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I downloaded the ISO .
Attempted to boot it under Sunvirtualbox.Alas .
All I get is a blinking underscore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I downloaded the ISO.
Attempted to boot it under Sunvirtualbox.Alas.
All I get is a blinking underscore.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879379</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879655</id>
	<title>What I Find Interesting...</title>
	<author>IonOtter</author>
	<datestamp>1256565000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...is that Psystar is <i>still around</i>.</p><p>All the previous predictions were that Apple would sue them into a hole so deep, the Salvation Army would be sending them their beans with a shotgun.</p><p>Yet here they are, still going strong, apparently?</p><p>Good for them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...is that Psystar is still around.All the previous predictions were that Apple would sue them into a hole so deep , the Salvation Army would be sending them their beans with a shotgun.Yet here they are , still going strong , apparently ? Good for them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...is that Psystar is still around.All the previous predictions were that Apple would sue them into a hole so deep, the Salvation Army would be sending them their beans with a shotgun.Yet here they are, still going strong, apparently?Good for them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29898469</id>
	<title>Re:OS X on HP Mini 1010</title>
	<author>vaporland</author>
	<datestamp>1256749440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm running Leopard on an HP Mini 1010, which is a great pocketnotebook for running OS X.<br> <br>

Psystar does not pirate Mac OS X or "sell it cheap" - they do offer it at retail price.<br> <br>

OS X does not use installation authentication in the form of serial numbers and "phone home" unlocking of functionality.<br> <br>

Like it or not, Psystar's software allows you to install operating system software you paid for on hardware you paid for.<br> <br>

Sherwin Williams doesn't restrict their paint products to one kind of house, do they? You can paint anything you want with it.<br> <br>

If Apple is selling (licensing) the software separately from the computer (they never say you have to OWN a Mac to buy OS X) then they should not be able to restrict where you install it, as long as you pay for a license for each machine.<br> <br>

Apple is the Verizon of hardware manufacturers - their only motive for locking (bundling?) hardware and software is profit. Seems to be working - look at last quarter results.<br> <br>

Bundling was declared illegal when IBM did it, and since Apple sells OS X @ retail, I believe anyone who pays for it should be able to install it anywhere they like, as long as they buy a license for each machine.<br> <br>

Otherwise, Apple should only offer OS X pre-installed on their hardware, and force people to buy new computers to receive a new OS when it is released.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm running Leopard on an HP Mini 1010 , which is a great pocketnotebook for running OS X . Psystar does not pirate Mac OS X or " sell it cheap " - they do offer it at retail price .
OS X does not use installation authentication in the form of serial numbers and " phone home " unlocking of functionality .
Like it or not , Psystar 's software allows you to install operating system software you paid for on hardware you paid for .
Sherwin Williams does n't restrict their paint products to one kind of house , do they ?
You can paint anything you want with it .
If Apple is selling ( licensing ) the software separately from the computer ( they never say you have to OWN a Mac to buy OS X ) then they should not be able to restrict where you install it , as long as you pay for a license for each machine .
Apple is the Verizon of hardware manufacturers - their only motive for locking ( bundling ?
) hardware and software is profit .
Seems to be working - look at last quarter results .
Bundling was declared illegal when IBM did it , and since Apple sells OS X @ retail , I believe anyone who pays for it should be able to install it anywhere they like , as long as they buy a license for each machine .
Otherwise , Apple should only offer OS X pre-installed on their hardware , and force people to buy new computers to receive a new OS when it is released .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm running Leopard on an HP Mini 1010, which is a great pocketnotebook for running OS X. 

Psystar does not pirate Mac OS X or "sell it cheap" - they do offer it at retail price.
OS X does not use installation authentication in the form of serial numbers and "phone home" unlocking of functionality.
Like it or not, Psystar's software allows you to install operating system software you paid for on hardware you paid for.
Sherwin Williams doesn't restrict their paint products to one kind of house, do they?
You can paint anything you want with it.
If Apple is selling (licensing) the software separately from the computer (they never say you have to OWN a Mac to buy OS X) then they should not be able to restrict where you install it, as long as you pay for a license for each machine.
Apple is the Verizon of hardware manufacturers - their only motive for locking (bundling?
) hardware and software is profit.
Seems to be working - look at last quarter results.
Bundling was declared illegal when IBM did it, and since Apple sells OS X @ retail, I believe anyone who pays for it should be able to install it anywhere they like, as long as they buy a license for each machine.
Otherwise, Apple should only offer OS X pre-installed on their hardware, and force people to buy new computers to receive a new OS when it is released.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29880311</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879579</id>
	<title>Re:Virtualization</title>
	<author>Rebelgecko</author>
	<datestamp>1256564280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I believe more recentish version of VMWare can virtualize Mac OSX</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe more recentish version of VMWare can virtualize Mac OSX</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe more recentish version of VMWare can virtualize Mac OSX</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879457</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879817</id>
	<title>Re:Apple should be concerned...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256566440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why given Apples continued success with their current plan do you think you know more than an Apple board of directors?  What you are saying must be patently false because they are still raking it in hand over fist and producing and supporting just the hardware they wish to run their software.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why given Apples continued success with their current plan do you think you know more than an Apple board of directors ?
What you are saying must be patently false because they are still raking it in hand over fist and producing and supporting just the hardware they wish to run their software .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why given Apples continued success with their current plan do you think you know more than an Apple board of directors?
What you are saying must be patently false because they are still raking it in hand over fist and producing and supporting just the hardware they wish to run their software.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879477</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879391</id>
	<title>Or, if we are about the open source,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256562780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://chameleon.osx86.hu/" title="osx86.hu">http://chameleon.osx86.hu/</a> [osx86.hu] <br>

The same, but FOSS. Some even suggest the same codebase, but I of course would never be cynical enough to suggest that or that running strings on both if someone had a spare moment might be interesting.</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //chameleon.osx86.hu/ [ osx86.hu ] The same , but FOSS .
Some even suggest the same codebase , but I of course would never be cynical enough to suggest that or that running strings on both if someone had a spare moment might be interesting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://chameleon.osx86.hu/ [osx86.hu] 

The same, but FOSS.
Some even suggest the same codebase, but I of course would never be cynical enough to suggest that or that running strings on both if someone had a spare moment might be interesting.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29883447</id>
	<title>Re:whats the point?</title>
	<author>phillymjs</author>
	<datestamp>1256656440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, I wanted a tower with internal expandability, but I don't have the kind of money to drop on a Mac Pro. I just built a pretty decent 2.83GHz quad core box with 8GB RAM for abut $1100. Took a bit of work and <a href="http://www.efixusers.com/" title="efixusers.com">quite a bit of help from others</a> [efixusers.com] to nudge me in the right direction when I got stuck, but I have a thumb drive configured with Chameleon that lets me boot and install Snow Leopard on the hard drive without having to make any changes to the actual running copy of OS X that would be broken by future OS updates. The only compromises I had to make were having to boot the SL installer from a copy on a thumb drive instead of the DVD, and having to put my NIC into promiscuous mode to get Bonjour to work.</p><p>I now have a computer that can dual boot Snow Leopard and Windows 7 (even with a GUI themed too look just like Boot Camp), sooner than Apple can sell me one (Windows 7 is not supported by Boot Camp just yet). The new version of VMWare Fusion comes out today, and that will let me also run my same, separate install of Windows 7 as a VM when I'm booted into OS X.</p><p>~Philly</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I wanted a tower with internal expandability , but I do n't have the kind of money to drop on a Mac Pro .
I just built a pretty decent 2.83GHz quad core box with 8GB RAM for abut $ 1100 .
Took a bit of work and quite a bit of help from others [ efixusers.com ] to nudge me in the right direction when I got stuck , but I have a thumb drive configured with Chameleon that lets me boot and install Snow Leopard on the hard drive without having to make any changes to the actual running copy of OS X that would be broken by future OS updates .
The only compromises I had to make were having to boot the SL installer from a copy on a thumb drive instead of the DVD , and having to put my NIC into promiscuous mode to get Bonjour to work.I now have a computer that can dual boot Snow Leopard and Windows 7 ( even with a GUI themed too look just like Boot Camp ) , sooner than Apple can sell me one ( Windows 7 is not supported by Boot Camp just yet ) .
The new version of VMWare Fusion comes out today , and that will let me also run my same , separate install of Windows 7 as a VM when I 'm booted into OS X. ~ Philly</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, I wanted a tower with internal expandability, but I don't have the kind of money to drop on a Mac Pro.
I just built a pretty decent 2.83GHz quad core box with 8GB RAM for abut $1100.
Took a bit of work and quite a bit of help from others [efixusers.com] to nudge me in the right direction when I got stuck, but I have a thumb drive configured with Chameleon that lets me boot and install Snow Leopard on the hard drive without having to make any changes to the actual running copy of OS X that would be broken by future OS updates.
The only compromises I had to make were having to boot the SL installer from a copy on a thumb drive instead of the DVD, and having to put my NIC into promiscuous mode to get Bonjour to work.I now have a computer that can dual boot Snow Leopard and Windows 7 (even with a GUI themed too look just like Boot Camp), sooner than Apple can sell me one (Windows 7 is not supported by Boot Camp just yet).
The new version of VMWare Fusion comes out today, and that will let me also run my same, separate install of Windows 7 as a VM when I'm booted into OS X.~Philly</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29882763</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879993</id>
	<title>Re:Athiests as a Majority</title>
	<author>porl</author>
	<datestamp>1256568360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you have made a very strong point, but not the point i think you wanted to make. congratulations, you ignorant moron.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you have made a very strong point , but not the point i think you wanted to make .
congratulations , you ignorant moron .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you have made a very strong point, but not the point i think you wanted to make.
congratulations, you ignorant moron.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879385</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879901</id>
	<title>Re:non-Apple hardware?</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1256567220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OSX is designed only for Apple hardware, without regard (the more cynical among us say negative regard) for other hardware. Installing OSX on hardware it's not designed for is quite an achievement, even if 90\% of it is the same as "normal" hardware.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OSX is designed only for Apple hardware , without regard ( the more cynical among us say negative regard ) for other hardware .
Installing OSX on hardware it 's not designed for is quite an achievement , even if 90 \ % of it is the same as " normal " hardware .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OSX is designed only for Apple hardware, without regard (the more cynical among us say negative regard) for other hardware.
Installing OSX on hardware it's not designed for is quite an achievement, even if 90\% of it is the same as "normal" hardware.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879825</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879457</id>
	<title>Virtualization</title>
	<author>corychristison</author>
	<datestamp>1256563380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am waiting for the ability to run it ala VirtualBox or Vmware Player/Workstation.</p><p>I don't have any use for my Mac mini other than checking some web design comparability with Safari under OSX (Win port does not like WINE). I can run XP under VirtualBox no problems but the Win Port of Safari isn't exactly the same anyway.</p><p>I don't like having yet another piece of hardware I don't even need sitting around. I already have two desktops, 2 laptop, media center pc and my homebuilt router (ITX board w/ dual Gb lan + gb switch + wifi card running pfSense).</p><p>Perhaps this Rebel product will lead the way into running OSX under virtualized hardware?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am waiting for the ability to run it ala VirtualBox or Vmware Player/Workstation.I do n't have any use for my Mac mini other than checking some web design comparability with Safari under OSX ( Win port does not like WINE ) .
I can run XP under VirtualBox no problems but the Win Port of Safari is n't exactly the same anyway.I do n't like having yet another piece of hardware I do n't even need sitting around .
I already have two desktops , 2 laptop , media center pc and my homebuilt router ( ITX board w/ dual Gb lan + gb switch + wifi card running pfSense ) .Perhaps this Rebel product will lead the way into running OSX under virtualized hardware ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am waiting for the ability to run it ala VirtualBox or Vmware Player/Workstation.I don't have any use for my Mac mini other than checking some web design comparability with Safari under OSX (Win port does not like WINE).
I can run XP under VirtualBox no problems but the Win Port of Safari isn't exactly the same anyway.I don't like having yet another piece of hardware I don't even need sitting around.
I already have two desktops, 2 laptop, media center pc and my homebuilt router (ITX board w/ dual Gb lan + gb switch + wifi card running pfSense).Perhaps this Rebel product will lead the way into running OSX under virtualized hardware?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29881137</id>
	<title>Re:The problem...</title>
	<author>aztracker1</author>
	<datestamp>1256584620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, updates to systems with psystar's loader come from psystar, not Apple directly.  This gives psystar a chance to test/modify updates that would otherwise brick the box.  This is the reason psystar is charging for the boot loader.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , updates to systems with psystar 's loader come from psystar , not Apple directly .
This gives psystar a chance to test/modify updates that would otherwise brick the box .
This is the reason psystar is charging for the boot loader .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, updates to systems with psystar's loader come from psystar, not Apple directly.
This gives psystar a chance to test/modify updates that would otherwise brick the box.
This is the reason psystar is charging for the boot loader.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879421</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29883549</id>
	<title>Re:OS X on Mini 9</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256657100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I probably got an hour more battery life after installing OSX on my Mini 9.  I didn't switch because of bad performance with XP.  I just did it to do it.  Turns out OSX runs quite nice on the Mini 9 and I stuck with it.</p><p>I even got Bluetooth hooked up and using it to connect with my XV6900 (WinMO Verizon) as a modem.  However, this kills the battery fairly quick, but no quicker than XP.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I probably got an hour more battery life after installing OSX on my Mini 9 .
I did n't switch because of bad performance with XP .
I just did it to do it .
Turns out OSX runs quite nice on the Mini 9 and I stuck with it.I even got Bluetooth hooked up and using it to connect with my XV6900 ( WinMO Verizon ) as a modem .
However , this kills the battery fairly quick , but no quicker than XP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I probably got an hour more battery life after installing OSX on my Mini 9.
I didn't switch because of bad performance with XP.
I just did it to do it.
Turns out OSX runs quite nice on the Mini 9 and I stuck with it.I even got Bluetooth hooked up and using it to connect with my XV6900 (WinMO Verizon) as a modem.
However, this kills the battery fairly quick, but no quicker than XP.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.30044524</id>
	<title>osx open source -- coming?</title>
	<author>h00manist</author>
	<datestamp>1257862200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>all this might get more attention and developers for osx open source alternatives, such as <a href="http://www.gnustep.org/" title="gnustep.org">gnustep</a> [gnustep.org], <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objective-C" title="wikipedia.org">Objective C</a> [wikipedia.org], <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin\_(operating\_system)" title="wikipedia.org">Darwin</a> [wikipedia.org], <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonjour\_(software)" title="wikipedia.org">bonjour</a> [wikipedia.org], etc.  More importantly, I think the advance of OSX and Ubuntu provide some important examples for Linux/Open Source.  More usability gets more users.  When you're programming, it's tempting, and easier, to say "users have to learn more", instead of "the interface is hard to use, true".</htmltext>
<tokenext>all this might get more attention and developers for osx open source alternatives , such as gnustep [ gnustep.org ] , Objective C [ wikipedia.org ] , Darwin [ wikipedia.org ] , bonjour [ wikipedia.org ] , etc .
More importantly , I think the advance of OSX and Ubuntu provide some important examples for Linux/Open Source .
More usability gets more users .
When you 're programming , it 's tempting , and easier , to say " users have to learn more " , instead of " the interface is hard to use , true " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>all this might get more attention and developers for osx open source alternatives, such as gnustep [gnustep.org], Objective C [wikipedia.org], Darwin [wikipedia.org], bonjour [wikipedia.org], etc.
More importantly, I think the advance of OSX and Ubuntu provide some important examples for Linux/Open Source.
More usability gets more users.
When you're programming, it's tempting, and easier, to say "users have to learn more", instead of "the interface is hard to use, true".</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29883147</id>
	<title>Re:Apple does'nt do anything to prohibit installat</title>
	<author>jabuzz</author>
	<datestamp>1256654940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Indeed, the new Dell M610's in my blade centre have EFI, perhaps I should try installing Snow Leopard and see if it works</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Indeed , the new Dell M610 's in my blade centre have EFI , perhaps I should try installing Snow Leopard and see if it works</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Indeed, the new Dell M610's in my blade centre have EFI, perhaps I should try installing Snow Leopard and see if it works</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879653</id>
	<title>What about Apple Lawsuit vs Psystar</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256564940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Reviewer forgot to mention that the main reason for Psystar to release the software at this point in time is because they are a sinking ship due to pending<br>litigation in 2 separate states.</p><p>Groklaw reference<nobr> <wbr></nobr>::</p><p>http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20091024213209193</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Reviewer forgot to mention that the main reason for Psystar to release the software at this point in time is because they are a sinking ship due to pendinglitigation in 2 separate states.Groklaw reference : : http : //www.groklaw.net/article.php ? story = 20091024213209193</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reviewer forgot to mention that the main reason for Psystar to release the software at this point in time is because they are a sinking ship due to pendinglitigation in 2 separate states.Groklaw reference ::http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20091024213209193</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879783</id>
	<title>Anyone try this in a VM?</title>
	<author>erroneus</author>
	<datestamp>1256566200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Loading Mac OS X into a VM is always a challenge.  I haven't looked into it for more than a year and I hope there are improvements, but I'm not holding my breath.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Loading Mac OS X into a VM is always a challenge .
I have n't looked into it for more than a year and I hope there are improvements , but I 'm not holding my breath .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Loading Mac OS X into a VM is always a challenge.
I haven't looked into it for more than a year and I hope there are improvements, but I'm not holding my breath.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29879979</id>
	<title>Re:Apple should be concerned...</title>
	<author>ducomputergeek</author>
	<datestamp>1256568120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Outside of video and audio production folks who may put in some 3rd party hardware, but this day in age, it seems to all be firewire or usb based products.  Most people I know using macs have laptops or iMacs.  I just replaced my last PowerMac with an iMac.  Outside of RAM, I don't see myself upgrading anything.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Outside of video and audio production folks who may put in some 3rd party hardware , but this day in age , it seems to all be firewire or usb based products .
Most people I know using macs have laptops or iMacs .
I just replaced my last PowerMac with an iMac .
Outside of RAM , I do n't see myself upgrading anything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Outside of video and audio production folks who may put in some 3rd party hardware, but this day in age, it seems to all be firewire or usb based products.
Most people I know using macs have laptops or iMacs.
I just replaced my last PowerMac with an iMac.
Outside of RAM, I don't see myself upgrading anything.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29880107</id>
	<title>OS with a kill switch? No thanks.</title>
	<author>argent</author>
	<datestamp>1256569680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Better the devil you know... I'm unhappy enough about Microsoft's kill switches, and I'm still on Windows 2000. There's no way I'd trust a crack that replaces Apple's copy protection with one containing a kill switch like this:</p><p>"Rebel EFI is free to try and download, though it will have limited hardware functionality and a run-time of two hours."</p><p>Certainly not one by a company that's already stated they can't keep track of their own paperwork.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Better the devil you know... I 'm unhappy enough about Microsoft 's kill switches , and I 'm still on Windows 2000 .
There 's no way I 'd trust a crack that replaces Apple 's copy protection with one containing a kill switch like this : " Rebel EFI is free to try and download , though it will have limited hardware functionality and a run-time of two hours .
" Certainly not one by a company that 's already stated they ca n't keep track of their own paperwork .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Better the devil you know... I'm unhappy enough about Microsoft's kill switches, and I'm still on Windows 2000.
There's no way I'd trust a crack that replaces Apple's copy protection with one containing a kill switch like this:"Rebel EFI is free to try and download, though it will have limited hardware functionality and a run-time of two hours.
"Certainly not one by a company that's already stated they can't keep track of their own paperwork.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29881787</id>
	<title>EULA abuse...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256639640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Reminds me of that poor company, Bleem,  that died when sony sued them to oblivion with their Playstation emulator.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Reminds me of that poor company , Bleem , that died when sony sued them to oblivion with their Playstation emulator .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reminds me of that poor company, Bleem,  that died when sony sued them to oblivion with their Playstation emulator.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29881941</id>
	<title>Re:[sigh]</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1256642700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>XNU is a hybrid kernel, which means it's basically a monolithic kernel but it runs something that looks a bit like a microkernel and puts all of the important system servers in the kernel's address space.  The Microkernel is Mach, which was released under the CMU license (roughly equivalent to the BSD license) by CMU.  Most of the services (e.g. process management, networking, and so on) are provided by the BSD server, which is now mostly based on FreeBSD.  You'll note how easily libdispatch was ported to FreeBSD.  This is because it uses the kqueue interface to the kernel, which XNU only has because it was copied from FreeBSD (and then slightly modified to support things like Mach ports).  Almost any system call you issue in OS X will be serviced by code taken from FreeBSD.  The biggest difference is the driver subsystem, which is completely new in OS X.</htmltext>
<tokenext>XNU is a hybrid kernel , which means it 's basically a monolithic kernel but it runs something that looks a bit like a microkernel and puts all of the important system servers in the kernel 's address space .
The Microkernel is Mach , which was released under the CMU license ( roughly equivalent to the BSD license ) by CMU .
Most of the services ( e.g .
process management , networking , and so on ) are provided by the BSD server , which is now mostly based on FreeBSD .
You 'll note how easily libdispatch was ported to FreeBSD .
This is because it uses the kqueue interface to the kernel , which XNU only has because it was copied from FreeBSD ( and then slightly modified to support things like Mach ports ) .
Almost any system call you issue in OS X will be serviced by code taken from FreeBSD .
The biggest difference is the driver subsystem , which is completely new in OS X .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>XNU is a hybrid kernel, which means it's basically a monolithic kernel but it runs something that looks a bit like a microkernel and puts all of the important system servers in the kernel's address space.
The Microkernel is Mach, which was released under the CMU license (roughly equivalent to the BSD license) by CMU.
Most of the services (e.g.
process management, networking, and so on) are provided by the BSD server, which is now mostly based on FreeBSD.
You'll note how easily libdispatch was ported to FreeBSD.
This is because it uses the kqueue interface to the kernel, which XNU only has because it was copied from FreeBSD (and then slightly modified to support things like Mach ports).
Almost any system call you issue in OS X will be serviced by code taken from FreeBSD.
The biggest difference is the driver subsystem, which is completely new in OS X.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29880269</id>
	<title>Re:So in other words...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256571540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>&gt;&gt; I see a ton of lawsuits coming.
<br> <br>Or, from your post, it looks like you <i>hope</i> a ton of lawsuits from your beloved company - Apple.</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; I see a ton of lawsuits coming .
Or , from your post , it looks like you hope a ton of lawsuits from your beloved company - Apple .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt; I see a ton of lawsuits coming.
Or, from your post, it looks like you hope a ton of lawsuits from your beloved company - Apple.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_2256212.29909837</id>
	<title>Re:Athiests as a Majority</title>
	<author>MightyYar</author>
	<datestamp>1256829300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why are the atheists wearing ceremonial robes and hoods?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why are the atheists wearing ceremonial robes and hoods ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why are the atheists wearing ceremonial robes and hoods?</sentencetext>
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