<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_26_1936227</id>
	<title>Microsoft Opening Outlook's PST Format</title>
	<author>ScuttleMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1256553180000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>protosage writes to tell us that Microsoft Interoperability is working towards <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/interoperability/archive/2009/10/26/roadmap-for-outlook-personal-folders-pst-documentation.aspx">opening up Outlook's .pst format</a> under their Open Specification Promise.  This should "allow anyone to implement the .pst file format on any platform and in any tool, without concerns about patents, and without the need to contact Microsoft in any way."  <i>"In order to facilitate interoperability and enable customers and vendors to access the data in .pst files on a variety of platforms, we will be releasing documentation for the .pst file format. This will allow developers to read, create, and interoperate with the data in .pst files in server and client scenarios using the programming language and platform of their choice. The technical documentation will detail how the data is stored, along with guidance for accessing that data from other software applications. It also will highlight the structure of the .pst file, provide details like how to navigate the folder hierarchy, and explain how to access the individual data objects and properties."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>protosage writes to tell us that Microsoft Interoperability is working towards opening up Outlook 's .pst format under their Open Specification Promise .
This should " allow anyone to implement the .pst file format on any platform and in any tool , without concerns about patents , and without the need to contact Microsoft in any way .
" " In order to facilitate interoperability and enable customers and vendors to access the data in .pst files on a variety of platforms , we will be releasing documentation for the .pst file format .
This will allow developers to read , create , and interoperate with the data in .pst files in server and client scenarios using the programming language and platform of their choice .
The technical documentation will detail how the data is stored , along with guidance for accessing that data from other software applications .
It also will highlight the structure of the .pst file , provide details like how to navigate the folder hierarchy , and explain how to access the individual data objects and properties .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>protosage writes to tell us that Microsoft Interoperability is working towards opening up Outlook's .pst format under their Open Specification Promise.
This should "allow anyone to implement the .pst file format on any platform and in any tool, without concerns about patents, and without the need to contact Microsoft in any way.
"  "In order to facilitate interoperability and enable customers and vendors to access the data in .pst files on a variety of platforms, we will be releasing documentation for the .pst file format.
This will allow developers to read, create, and interoperate with the data in .pst files in server and client scenarios using the programming language and platform of their choice.
The technical documentation will detail how the data is stored, along with guidance for accessing that data from other software applications.
It also will highlight the structure of the .pst file, provide details like how to navigate the folder hierarchy, and explain how to access the individual data objects and properties.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29881069</id>
	<title>Re:I Don't Have a .PST</title>
	<author>Blue\_Wombat</author>
	<datestamp>1256583360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's my problem as well, and apparently IT is about to disable the "export to PST feature". I have about 10GB of email in PST files, which I break into individual<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.pst chunks of about 1GB for archival backup. IT has already irretrievably lost large quantities of email three times, so I do this myself as a security measure. I can copy the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.ost file to my home computer, but unlike<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.pst files I can't then extract and archive folders (eg Sent-2008) because apparently it needs to connect to the exchange server to do this. I am a non-techie in techie hell on this - is there any easy way to convert an<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.ost file to a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.pst file on a personal machine?</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's my problem as well , and apparently IT is about to disable the " export to PST feature " .
I have about 10GB of email in PST files , which I break into individual .pst chunks of about 1GB for archival backup .
IT has already irretrievably lost large quantities of email three times , so I do this myself as a security measure .
I can copy the .ost file to my home computer , but unlike .pst files I ca n't then extract and archive folders ( eg Sent-2008 ) because apparently it needs to connect to the exchange server to do this .
I am a non-techie in techie hell on this - is there any easy way to convert an .ost file to a .pst file on a personal machine ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's my problem as well, and apparently IT is about to disable the "export to PST feature".
I have about 10GB of email in PST files, which I break into individual .pst chunks of about 1GB for archival backup.
IT has already irretrievably lost large quantities of email three times, so I do this myself as a security measure.
I can copy the .ost file to my home computer, but unlike .pst files I can't then extract and archive folders (eg Sent-2008) because apparently it needs to connect to the exchange server to do this.
I am a non-techie in techie hell on this - is there any easy way to convert an .ost file to a .pst file on a personal machine?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29879331</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29881381</id>
	<title>Re:I Don't Have a .PST</title>
	<author>jonbryce</author>
	<datestamp>1256675160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That means you are talking to an exchange server.  Evolution and other programs can get stuff off the exchange server without too much trouble.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That means you are talking to an exchange server .
Evolution and other programs can get stuff off the exchange server without too much trouble .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That means you are talking to an exchange server.
Evolution and other programs can get stuff off the exchange server without too much trouble.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29879331</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29880437</id>
	<title>anyone have a watch? oh here is one.</title>
	<author>cyberfr0g</author>
	<datestamp>1256573400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>lets see how long it takes for<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.'ers to trash microsoft for doing this.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>::looks at his watch::</p><p>wow, that didn't take long.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>lets see how long it takes for / .
'ers to trash microsoft for doing this .
: : looks at his watch : : wow , that did n't take long .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>lets see how long it takes for /.
'ers to trash microsoft for doing this.
::looks at his watch::wow, that didn't take long.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29882835</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about PST files anymore?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256653140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Only 100MB? At work, our average mailbox size is 400MB, with the largest containing something like 3GB of emails. Of course, we have 500GB of storage, and only 30 or so mailboxes.</p><p>I remain shocked that Lotus Notes (version 5, no less) was able to handle this mess for as long as it did. We had the same system in place - the heavier email users archived everything to a local<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.NSF file (or, in the case of the boss, three of them), but some of the mailboxes on the Domino server were upwards of 1GB, still running on a single server that was state of the art in 2000. Same basic problem with a lack of backups - I think we may have lost at least one of those archive files to disk failure in the past. The only difference - the archives were basically to prevent the server from running out of disk space, rather than to work around quota issues.</p><p>I think Notes / Domino is probably just about the only environment where Exchange / Outlook can seriously be considered an upgrade. It may have a lot of other neat features, but Exchange really kind of sucks as an email server.</p><p>By the way... if the IT department suggests copying potentially important emails to a local, not-backed-up storage device, then they need to be shot. Potential business-related problems caused by lost data aside, what the hell happens when you get audited?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Only 100MB ?
At work , our average mailbox size is 400MB , with the largest containing something like 3GB of emails .
Of course , we have 500GB of storage , and only 30 or so mailboxes.I remain shocked that Lotus Notes ( version 5 , no less ) was able to handle this mess for as long as it did .
We had the same system in place - the heavier email users archived everything to a local .NSF file ( or , in the case of the boss , three of them ) , but some of the mailboxes on the Domino server were upwards of 1GB , still running on a single server that was state of the art in 2000 .
Same basic problem with a lack of backups - I think we may have lost at least one of those archive files to disk failure in the past .
The only difference - the archives were basically to prevent the server from running out of disk space , rather than to work around quota issues.I think Notes / Domino is probably just about the only environment where Exchange / Outlook can seriously be considered an upgrade .
It may have a lot of other neat features , but Exchange really kind of sucks as an email server.By the way... if the IT department suggests copying potentially important emails to a local , not-backed-up storage device , then they need to be shot .
Potential business-related problems caused by lost data aside , what the hell happens when you get audited ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only 100MB?
At work, our average mailbox size is 400MB, with the largest containing something like 3GB of emails.
Of course, we have 500GB of storage, and only 30 or so mailboxes.I remain shocked that Lotus Notes (version 5, no less) was able to handle this mess for as long as it did.
We had the same system in place - the heavier email users archived everything to a local .NSF file (or, in the case of the boss, three of them), but some of the mailboxes on the Domino server were upwards of 1GB, still running on a single server that was state of the art in 2000.
Same basic problem with a lack of backups - I think we may have lost at least one of those archive files to disk failure in the past.
The only difference - the archives were basically to prevent the server from running out of disk space, rather than to work around quota issues.I think Notes / Domino is probably just about the only environment where Exchange / Outlook can seriously be considered an upgrade.
It may have a lot of other neat features, but Exchange really kind of sucks as an email server.By the way... if the IT department suggests copying potentially important emails to a local, not-backed-up storage device, then they need to be shot.
Potential business-related problems caused by lost data aside, what the hell happens when you get audited?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29878991</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29881717</id>
	<title>Please dear god someone now save me</title>
	<author>herojig</author>
	<datestamp>1256638440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Please dear god someone now save me Entourage hell and rewrite something that works...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Please dear god someone now save me Entourage hell and rewrite something that works.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please dear god someone now save me Entourage hell and rewrite something that works...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29879307</id>
	<title>It's a trick</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256562240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... get an axe!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... get an axe !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... get an axe!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29878749</id>
	<title>what happen to the obligatory tag?</title>
	<author>MoFoQ</author>
	<datestamp>1256558400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>what happen to the obligatory tag that gets added on Slashdot to a post about Microsoft "opening up" something, the "itsatrap" tag.</p><p>here are some prime examples:<br><a href="http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/03/25/1523253" title="slashdot.org">Microsoft Partially Opens Proprietary XML Format</a> [slashdot.org]<br>(mainly because this happened: <a href="http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/29/2143248" title="slashdot.org">Microsoft Open Document Standard Not So Open</a> [slashdot.org])</p><p><a href="http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/07/20/1643251" title="slashdot.org">Microsoft Releases Linux Device Drivers As GPL</a> [slashdot.org]</p><p>in fact, there are plenty of other examples in the "<i> <a href="http://politics.slashdot.org/tag/itsatrap" title="slashdot.org">itsatrap</a> [slashdot.org] </i>" tag-egory</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>what happen to the obligatory tag that gets added on Slashdot to a post about Microsoft " opening up " something , the " itsatrap " tag.here are some prime examples : Microsoft Partially Opens Proprietary XML Format [ slashdot.org ] ( mainly because this happened : Microsoft Open Document Standard Not So Open [ slashdot.org ] ) Microsoft Releases Linux Device Drivers As GPL [ slashdot.org ] in fact , there are plenty of other examples in the " itsatrap [ slashdot.org ] " tag-egory</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what happen to the obligatory tag that gets added on Slashdot to a post about Microsoft "opening up" something, the "itsatrap" tag.here are some prime examples:Microsoft Partially Opens Proprietary XML Format [slashdot.org](mainly because this happened: Microsoft Open Document Standard Not So Open [slashdot.org])Microsoft Releases Linux Device Drivers As GPL [slashdot.org]in fact, there are plenty of other examples in the " itsatrap [slashdot.org] " tag-egory</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29880807</id>
	<title>Fixing it?</title>
	<author>GDgonzo</author>
	<datestamp>1256578680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps they are opening up all these technologies so they can be improved by the community and further locking themselves in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps they are opening up all these technologies so they can be improved by the community and further locking themselves in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps they are opening up all these technologies so they can be improved by the community and further locking themselves in.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29878725</id>
	<title>Who cares about PST files anymore?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256558280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd wager that Microsoft is willing to do this because the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.pst format is becoming irrelevant. Medium and large businesses already want nothing to do with them due to issues with performance and management. That leaves small businesses and a small number of home users. With hosted exchange options becoming more common among small businesses, the need for<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.pst files is going away very quickly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd wager that Microsoft is willing to do this because the .pst format is becoming irrelevant .
Medium and large businesses already want nothing to do with them due to issues with performance and management .
That leaves small businesses and a small number of home users .
With hosted exchange options becoming more common among small businesses , the need for .pst files is going away very quickly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd wager that Microsoft is willing to do this because the .pst format is becoming irrelevant.
Medium and large businesses already want nothing to do with them due to issues with performance and management.
That leaves small businesses and a small number of home users.
With hosted exchange options becoming more common among small businesses, the need for .pst files is going away very quickly.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29878955</id>
	<title>kckman</title>
	<author>kckman</author>
	<datestamp>1256559840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>First thing many corporations turn off is the ability to save mail in PST files.  One of the better Group Policies IMHO.</htmltext>
<tokenext>First thing many corporations turn off is the ability to save mail in PST files .
One of the better Group Policies IMHO .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First thing many corporations turn off is the ability to save mail in PST files.
One of the better Group Policies IMHO.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29879737</id>
	<title>Thank you RMS</title>
	<author>Dysphoric1</author>
	<datestamp>1256565660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And the iconoclastic tree of RMS bears another fruit. You can bet that without the pressure exerted by free and/or open source software and its advocates this would never have happened...</p><p>(I now await moderation punishment for having mentioned the name of him is not to be named...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And the iconoclastic tree of RMS bears another fruit .
You can bet that without the pressure exerted by free and/or open source software and its advocates this would never have happened... ( I now await moderation punishment for having mentioned the name of him is not to be named... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And the iconoclastic tree of RMS bears another fruit.
You can bet that without the pressure exerted by free and/or open source software and its advocates this would never have happened...(I now await moderation punishment for having mentioned the name of him is not to be named...)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29881287</id>
	<title>Re:PST format a dad design idea from the start</title>
	<author>HigH5</author>
	<datestamp>1256587080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That was my first thought about this news. It's actually useless to MS as well to others except for export/import applications. But MS gains publicity about openness. On the other hand, AFAIK ISO standards actually work on this principle, but we couldn't say that in the case of Office Open XML</htmltext>
<tokenext>That was my first thought about this news .
It 's actually useless to MS as well to others except for export/import applications .
But MS gains publicity about openness .
On the other hand , AFAIK ISO standards actually work on this principle , but we could n't say that in the case of Office Open XML</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That was my first thought about this news.
It's actually useless to MS as well to others except for export/import applications.
But MS gains publicity about openness.
On the other hand, AFAIK ISO standards actually work on this principle, but we couldn't say that in the case of Office Open XML</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29878797</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29878847</id>
	<title>little bit risky</title>
	<author>postmortem</author>
	<datestamp>1256559240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>now trojans and spyware can scan outlook data for private information with ease... but yeah openness also means issues with format will be public and fixable.</htmltext>
<tokenext>now trojans and spyware can scan outlook data for private information with ease... but yeah openness also means issues with format will be public and fixable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>now trojans and spyware can scan outlook data for private information with ease... but yeah openness also means issues with format will be public and fixable.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29880839</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about PST files anymore?</title>
	<author>spectre\_240sx</author>
	<datestamp>1256578980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are a lot of reasons, beyond performance, why this is a bad idea. I'm well aware that it's done, but I would expect it won't be common for too much longer. How do you handle an e-discovery request when you have PSTs in unknown locations? What happens when a lawyer knows you have something and then it gets lost? It's nasty territory to be in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are a lot of reasons , beyond performance , why this is a bad idea .
I 'm well aware that it 's done , but I would expect it wo n't be common for too much longer .
How do you handle an e-discovery request when you have PSTs in unknown locations ?
What happens when a lawyer knows you have something and then it gets lost ?
It 's nasty territory to be in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are a lot of reasons, beyond performance, why this is a bad idea.
I'm well aware that it's done, but I would expect it won't be common for too much longer.
How do you handle an e-discovery request when you have PSTs in unknown locations?
What happens when a lawyer knows you have something and then it gets lost?
It's nasty territory to be in.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29878991</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29881043</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about PST files anymore?</title>
	<author>usacomp2k3</author>
	<datestamp>1256582520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The same here. Only they have a "anything older than 21 days gets deleted" policy, which is why I have a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.pst file that is over 1gb, and that is having exported all attachments over 1mb.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The same here .
Only they have a " anything older than 21 days gets deleted " policy , which is why I have a .pst file that is over 1gb , and that is having exported all attachments over 1mb .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The same here.
Only they have a "anything older than 21 days gets deleted" policy, which is why I have a .pst file that is over 1gb, and that is having exported all attachments over 1mb.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29878991</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29879773</id>
	<title>This misses the point</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256566080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Open up PST? Who cares?<br>The big users of Outlook are companies, who all uses Exchange.<br>This doesn't help that at all.<br>Maybe they should open up MAPI so we can communicate with Exchange, and maybe stop dropping support for webdav...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Open up PST ?
Who cares ? The big users of Outlook are companies , who all uses Exchange.This does n't help that at all.Maybe they should open up MAPI so we can communicate with Exchange , and maybe stop dropping support for webdav.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Open up PST?
Who cares?The big users of Outlook are companies, who all uses Exchange.This doesn't help that at all.Maybe they should open up MAPI so we can communicate with Exchange, and maybe stop dropping support for webdav...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29879445</id>
	<title>Who cares?</title>
	<author>Dogbertius</author>
	<datestamp>1256563260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>People have been creating plugins for $10 a pop to do this for nearly a decade now. How about instead of opening a broken format, they open up some Exchange connectivity so that we can use a proper mail client (ie: NOT Outlook) with Exchange? TBird comes to mind. I know that there are workarounds, but why should one mail server be married to one mail client?</htmltext>
<tokenext>People have been creating plugins for $ 10 a pop to do this for nearly a decade now .
How about instead of opening a broken format , they open up some Exchange connectivity so that we can use a proper mail client ( ie : NOT Outlook ) with Exchange ?
TBird comes to mind .
I know that there are workarounds , but why should one mail server be married to one mail client ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People have been creating plugins for $10 a pop to do this for nearly a decade now.
How about instead of opening a broken format, they open up some Exchange connectivity so that we can use a proper mail client (ie: NOT Outlook) with Exchange?
TBird comes to mind.
I know that there are workarounds, but why should one mail server be married to one mail client?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29891437</id>
	<title>Re:PST format a dad design idea from the start</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256648040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But it was always easy to get the stuff out of pst files - you can use MAPI or CDO to read the data. These interfaces are documented reasonably well and they can read write pst files.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But it was always easy to get the stuff out of pst files - you can use MAPI or CDO to read the data .
These interfaces are documented reasonably well and they can read write pst files .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But it was always easy to get the stuff out of pst files - you can use MAPI or CDO to read the data.
These interfaces are documented reasonably well and they can read write pst files.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29879829</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29917973</id>
	<title>Re:Standard reactions here</title>
	<author>Hognoxious</author>
	<datestamp>1256817300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Nonsense.  Slashdotters like a laugh as much as anyone.  Except perhaps my wife, and most of her friends.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nonsense .
Slashdotters like a laugh as much as anyone .
Except perhaps my wife , and most of her friends .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nonsense.
Slashdotters like a laugh as much as anyone.
Except perhaps my wife, and most of her friends.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29880747</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29879053</id>
	<title>Re:Link to the RFC</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256560380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's in the summary, dumbshit. They're <b>working</b> on it, AKA not done yet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's in the summary , dumbshit .
They 're working on it , AKA not done yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's in the summary, dumbshit.
They're working on it, AKA not done yet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29878829</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29878677</id>
	<title>PST format a dad design idea from the start</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256557920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Its good to see Microfsoft open up the Outlook PST format, if only to improve importing into other mail clients like Thunderbird etc.<br> <br>

But honestly, using the PST format in other applications sounds like a terrible idea to me: Those monolithic PST files, which Outlook uses to store mail data get corrupted easily (at least in my experience) and storing all your email data in one gigantic file always struck me as a really bad design choice anyway.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Its good to see Microfsoft open up the Outlook PST format , if only to improve importing into other mail clients like Thunderbird etc .
But honestly , using the PST format in other applications sounds like a terrible idea to me : Those monolithic PST files , which Outlook uses to store mail data get corrupted easily ( at least in my experience ) and storing all your email data in one gigantic file always struck me as a really bad design choice anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its good to see Microfsoft open up the Outlook PST format, if only to improve importing into other mail clients like Thunderbird etc.
But honestly, using the PST format in other applications sounds like a terrible idea to me: Those monolithic PST files, which Outlook uses to store mail data get corrupted easily (at least in my experience) and storing all your email data in one gigantic file always struck me as a really bad design choice anyway.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29878661</id>
	<title>I can't help but wonder what their motives are...</title>
	<author>mirix</author>
	<datestamp>1256557860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But regardless, open is a good thing. <br> <br> I don't see much use for it though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>But regardless , open is a good thing .
I do n't see much use for it though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But regardless, open is a good thing.
I don't see much use for it though.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29882843</id>
	<title>Re:I can't help but wonder what their motives are.</title>
	<author>dns\_server</author>
	<datestamp>1256653200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or all this has been possible for quite some.<br>Evolution has been able to load pst files 6 months ago, as well as mapi support with the openchange plugin.</p><p>All this really means to us users is they are probably not going to sue us over it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or all this has been possible for quite some.Evolution has been able to load pst files 6 months ago , as well as mapi support with the openchange plugin.All this really means to us users is they are probably not going to sue us over it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or all this has been possible for quite some.Evolution has been able to load pst files 6 months ago, as well as mapi support with the openchange plugin.All this really means to us users is they are probably not going to sue us over it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29878751</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29881093</id>
	<title>Zarafa</title>
	<author>Errtu76</author>
	<datestamp>1256583840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Companies like Zarafa will benefit from this if they act quickly enough. It's already a valid alternative for Exchange. If they allow you to import<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.pst mailarchives it'll be so much easier to make the switch. Well, not easier but surely a lot less complains from users.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Companies like Zarafa will benefit from this if they act quickly enough .
It 's already a valid alternative for Exchange .
If they allow you to import .pst mailarchives it 'll be so much easier to make the switch .
Well , not easier but surely a lot less complains from users .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Companies like Zarafa will benefit from this if they act quickly enough.
It's already a valid alternative for Exchange.
If they allow you to import .pst mailarchives it'll be so much easier to make the switch.
Well, not easier but surely a lot less complains from users.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29879271</id>
	<title>Re:PST format a dad design idea from the start</title>
	<author>Eil</author>
	<datestamp>1256562000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ask anyone who's worked in the capacity of corporate I.T. helpdesk peon what they think of<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.PST files and your answer every single time will be a punch in the face.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ask anyone who 's worked in the capacity of corporate I.T .
helpdesk peon what they think of .PST files and your answer every single time will be a punch in the face .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ask anyone who's worked in the capacity of corporate I.T.
helpdesk peon what they think of .PST files and your answer every single time will be a punch in the face.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29878677</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29881209</id>
	<title>Re:PST format a dad design idea from the start</title>
	<author>Have Brain Will Rent</author>
	<datestamp>1256585760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>storing all your email data in one gigantic file always struck me as a really bad design choice anyway.</i> </p><p>
I agree - it's unfortunate that TBird does that as well. Either make each folder a directory and each message a file or, as someone suggested above, use SQL databases to store the messages.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>storing all your email data in one gigantic file always struck me as a really bad design choice anyway .
I agree - it 's unfortunate that TBird does that as well .
Either make each folder a directory and each message a file or , as someone suggested above , use SQL databases to store the messages .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> storing all your email data in one gigantic file always struck me as a really bad design choice anyway.
I agree - it's unfortunate that TBird does that as well.
Either make each folder a directory and each message a file or, as someone suggested above, use SQL databases to store the messages.
</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29878677</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29878829</id>
	<title>Link to the RFC</title>
	<author>hey</author>
	<datestamp>1256559060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So where's the link to the RFC or other plain text document describing the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.PST file?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So where 's the link to the RFC or other plain text document describing the .PST file ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So where's the link to the RFC or other plain text document describing the .PST file?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29878525</id>
	<title>Oh no...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256557020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Another sign of the Apocalypse - and it's a doozy. I always figured hell would freeze over before Microsoft opened up something like the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.pst specs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Another sign of the Apocalypse - and it 's a doozy .
I always figured hell would freeze over before Microsoft opened up something like the .pst specs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Another sign of the Apocalypse - and it's a doozy.
I always figured hell would freeze over before Microsoft opened up something like the .pst specs.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29883047</id>
	<title>Re:PST format a dad design idea from the start</title>
	<author>bruthasj</author>
	<datestamp>1256654400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In Unix, storing all your email data in one gigantic file is called mbox. And, there's all sorts of vim-vs-emacs-like threads about it and maildir. You'd also be surprised about various online email systems that do something similar with a bit of redundancy via replication.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In Unix , storing all your email data in one gigantic file is called mbox .
And , there 's all sorts of vim-vs-emacs-like threads about it and maildir .
You 'd also be surprised about various online email systems that do something similar with a bit of redundancy via replication .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Unix, storing all your email data in one gigantic file is called mbox.
And, there's all sorts of vim-vs-emacs-like threads about it and maildir.
You'd also be surprised about various online email systems that do something similar with a bit of redundancy via replication.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29878677</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29880543</id>
	<title>DAMO: Notes &amp; Outlook together</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256574840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's a little known piece of middlware from IBM called DAMO. Domino Access for Microsoft Outlook. Domino is the server behind the loathsome Notes client. Basically it maps Notes fields to a PST. Then you can pull all your notes email and calendars into an Outlook<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.PST. You'll need to pay IBM $100 for the privilege and they're not going to support it for much longer, but if you hate (hate, hate, hate) Notes and need to hit a Domino server, this is cool. For me it's been $100 for three years of sanity for my PIM and no need to deal with Notes. Even the latest 8.5 version seems to be a bunch of badly done java emulating Outlook.</p><p>If you go this route, stay under the radar and don't hip the IT guys to what you're doing. Unless they're particularly eagle-eyed they probably won't notice what you're up to. You among thousands of users. They don't have the time. Don't ask for support from them. Figure it out on your own. Get into the VPN, figure out the IP address of your email server and keep your notes id handy for when the prompt asks. Expect it to take a little fiddling and do lots of backups.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a little known piece of middlware from IBM called DAMO .
Domino Access for Microsoft Outlook .
Domino is the server behind the loathsome Notes client .
Basically it maps Notes fields to a PST .
Then you can pull all your notes email and calendars into an Outlook .PST .
You 'll need to pay IBM $ 100 for the privilege and they 're not going to support it for much longer , but if you hate ( hate , hate , hate ) Notes and need to hit a Domino server , this is cool .
For me it 's been $ 100 for three years of sanity for my PIM and no need to deal with Notes .
Even the latest 8.5 version seems to be a bunch of badly done java emulating Outlook.If you go this route , stay under the radar and do n't hip the IT guys to what you 're doing .
Unless they 're particularly eagle-eyed they probably wo n't notice what you 're up to .
You among thousands of users .
They do n't have the time .
Do n't ask for support from them .
Figure it out on your own .
Get into the VPN , figure out the IP address of your email server and keep your notes id handy for when the prompt asks .
Expect it to take a little fiddling and do lots of backups .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a little known piece of middlware from IBM called DAMO.
Domino Access for Microsoft Outlook.
Domino is the server behind the loathsome Notes client.
Basically it maps Notes fields to a PST.
Then you can pull all your notes email and calendars into an Outlook .PST.
You'll need to pay IBM $100 for the privilege and they're not going to support it for much longer, but if you hate (hate, hate, hate) Notes and need to hit a Domino server, this is cool.
For me it's been $100 for three years of sanity for my PIM and no need to deal with Notes.
Even the latest 8.5 version seems to be a bunch of badly done java emulating Outlook.If you go this route, stay under the radar and don't hip the IT guys to what you're doing.
Unless they're particularly eagle-eyed they probably won't notice what you're up to.
You among thousands of users.
They don't have the time.
Don't ask for support from them.
Figure it out on your own.
Get into the VPN, figure out the IP address of your email server and keep your notes id handy for when the prompt asks.
Expect it to take a little fiddling and do lots of backups.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29879627</id>
	<title>Pacific Standard Time?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256564700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't live on the west coast you insensitive clod.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't live on the west coast you insensitive clod .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't live on the west coast you insensitive clod.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29883331</id>
	<title>Re:PST format a bad design idea from the start</title>
	<author>GrantRobertson</author>
	<datestamp>1256655960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is nothing to prevent your custom apps from spreading that data over multiple different<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.PST files and then displaying it as if it were one database.</p><p>I have been using Outlook for over a decade. I synchronize the data between a desktop and a laptop as well as hotsync it to a Palm Pilot (Sony Clie NR70v). I have only had one or two times when the database got corrupted. I just restored from the copy that was on my laptop and was on my way.</p><p>I think this is a great thing as I have no intention of giving up Outlook any time soon but I am about to give up on the Palm OS platform and move on to Android. Unless Chapura comes out with an Android version of Keysuite, I will likely have to create my own apps for Android and was concerned about figuring out the Outlook<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.PST format. Now I can get it straight from the horse's mouth. Sure, I know MS isn't always completely forthcoming. Duh. But it is better than relying on hacking my way through from scratch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is nothing to prevent your custom apps from spreading that data over multiple different .PST files and then displaying it as if it were one database.I have been using Outlook for over a decade .
I synchronize the data between a desktop and a laptop as well as hotsync it to a Palm Pilot ( Sony Clie NR70v ) .
I have only had one or two times when the database got corrupted .
I just restored from the copy that was on my laptop and was on my way.I think this is a great thing as I have no intention of giving up Outlook any time soon but I am about to give up on the Palm OS platform and move on to Android .
Unless Chapura comes out with an Android version of Keysuite , I will likely have to create my own apps for Android and was concerned about figuring out the Outlook .PST format .
Now I can get it straight from the horse 's mouth .
Sure , I know MS is n't always completely forthcoming .
Duh. But it is better than relying on hacking my way through from scratch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is nothing to prevent your custom apps from spreading that data over multiple different .PST files and then displaying it as if it were one database.I have been using Outlook for over a decade.
I synchronize the data between a desktop and a laptop as well as hotsync it to a Palm Pilot (Sony Clie NR70v).
I have only had one or two times when the database got corrupted.
I just restored from the copy that was on my laptop and was on my way.I think this is a great thing as I have no intention of giving up Outlook any time soon but I am about to give up on the Palm OS platform and move on to Android.
Unless Chapura comes out with an Android version of Keysuite, I will likely have to create my own apps for Android and was concerned about figuring out the Outlook .PST format.
Now I can get it straight from the horse's mouth.
Sure, I know MS isn't always completely forthcoming.
Duh. But it is better than relying on hacking my way through from scratch.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29878677</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29879869</id>
	<title>Awesome!</title>
	<author>plazman30</author>
	<datestamp>1256566980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So now we can write open source tools to fix corrupt PST files!</p><p>Don't even think about doing anything open source with PST files, until you have a tool to fix the files when they go corrupt.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So now we can write open source tools to fix corrupt PST files ! Do n't even think about doing anything open source with PST files , until you have a tool to fix the files when they go corrupt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So now we can write open source tools to fix corrupt PST files!Don't even think about doing anything open source with PST files, until you have a tool to fix the files when they go corrupt.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29880747</id>
	<title>Standard reactions here</title>
	<author>ClosedSource</author>
	<datestamp>1256577960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>MS could release all of the Windows 7 source under the GPL and Slashdotters would explain why it's no big deal and ask why anyone would want it anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>MS could release all of the Windows 7 source under the GPL and Slashdotters would explain why it 's no big deal and ask why anyone would want it anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>MS could release all of the Windows 7 source under the GPL and Slashdotters would explain why it's no big deal and ask why anyone would want it anyway.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29879293</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about PST files anymore?</title>
	<author>Monoman</author>
	<datestamp>1256562180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bingo!  I believe MS has already banned PSTs in house.  The writing is on the wall where I work.  Too many times PST get corrupted which turns into support nightmares for the VIP customers.  Once the VIPs (they sign the checks) are sold on getting rid of PSTs and expanding the mailbox sizes they will pay the bill.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bingo !
I believe MS has already banned PSTs in house .
The writing is on the wall where I work .
Too many times PST get corrupted which turns into support nightmares for the VIP customers .
Once the VIPs ( they sign the checks ) are sold on getting rid of PSTs and expanding the mailbox sizes they will pay the bill .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bingo!
I believe MS has already banned PSTs in house.
The writing is on the wall where I work.
Too many times PST get corrupted which turns into support nightmares for the VIP customers.
Once the VIPs (they sign the checks) are sold on getting rid of PSTs and expanding the mailbox sizes they will pay the bill.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29878725</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29881431</id>
	<title>Is there a python library for .pst?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256676120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is there a python library for<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.pst?<br>A link, anyone?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is there a python library for .pst ? A link , anyone ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is there a python library for .pst?A link, anyone?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29879601</id>
	<title>Re:what happen to the obligatory tag?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256564460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"itsatrap" would only apply if anybody actually gave a fuck about *using*<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.PST. Given that the only interest anybody's likely to have is, "how do I get data *away* from this<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.PST", it's less of an issue.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" itsatrap " would only apply if anybody actually gave a fuck about * using * .PST .
Given that the only interest anybody 's likely to have is , " how do I get data * away * from this .PST " , it 's less of an issue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"itsatrap" would only apply if anybody actually gave a fuck about *using* .PST.
Given that the only interest anybody's likely to have is, "how do I get data *away* from this .PST", it's less of an issue.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29878749</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29879879</id>
	<title>Re:PST format a dad design idea from the start</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256567040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pretty sure Thunderbird chose the same route, for what it's worth.</p><p>Right now I'm looking at "C:\Users\###\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles\###.default\ImapMail\mail.mydomain.net\INBOX", a 96.2 MB file.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pretty sure Thunderbird chose the same route , for what it 's worth.Right now I 'm looking at " C : \ Users \ # # # \ AppData \ Roaming \ Thunderbird \ Profiles \ # # # .default \ ImapMail \ mail.mydomain.net \ INBOX " , a 96.2 MB file .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pretty sure Thunderbird chose the same route, for what it's worth.Right now I'm looking at "C:\Users\###\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles\###.default\ImapMail\mail.mydomain.net\INBOX", a 96.2 MB file.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29878677</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29879101</id>
	<title>Re:what happen to the obligatory tag?</title>
	<author>\_Sprocket\_</author>
	<datestamp>1256560800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We can also tag the sky "blue" if that helps you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We can also tag the sky " blue " if that helps you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We can also tag the sky "blue" if that helps you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29878749</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29883125</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about PST files anymore?</title>
	<author>DarthVain</author>
	<datestamp>1256654760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not to mention the fact that PST files are limited to under 2GB otherwise they corrupt. Which means I have like 5 or 6 different repositories of emails. Which wouldn't be so bad if it was just static back up, really sucks when some does an FOI request and I have to search through like 7 places, one at a time due to a limitation by Outlook for records. Lame.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to mention the fact that PST files are limited to under 2GB otherwise they corrupt .
Which means I have like 5 or 6 different repositories of emails .
Which would n't be so bad if it was just static back up , really sucks when some does an FOI request and I have to search through like 7 places , one at a time due to a limitation by Outlook for records .
Lame .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to mention the fact that PST files are limited to under 2GB otherwise they corrupt.
Which means I have like 5 or 6 different repositories of emails.
Which wouldn't be so bad if it was just static back up, really sucks when some does an FOI request and I have to search through like 7 places, one at a time due to a limitation by Outlook for records.
Lame.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29878683</id>
	<title>Sounds like good news.</title>
	<author>WhiteFluffyChest</author>
	<datestamp>1256557980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I like pst files because my whole mailbox can fit into just one file, which is very neat and tidy.</p><p>But I wonder about the complexity of them internally.  Also, they may have features from Outlook that are legally protected.  So if you implement all the features you could in effect be copying Outlook or be restricted to the Outlook feature set.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I like pst files because my whole mailbox can fit into just one file , which is very neat and tidy.But I wonder about the complexity of them internally .
Also , they may have features from Outlook that are legally protected .
So if you implement all the features you could in effect be copying Outlook or be restricted to the Outlook feature set .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like pst files because my whole mailbox can fit into just one file, which is very neat and tidy.But I wonder about the complexity of them internally.
Also, they may have features from Outlook that are legally protected.
So if you implement all the features you could in effect be copying Outlook or be restricted to the Outlook feature set.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29882023</id>
	<title>Re:I can't help but wonder what their motives are.</title>
	<author>stbill79</author>
	<datestamp>1256643960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This would make perfect sense <strong>if</strong> each product team at Microsoft had complete freedom to design their application without consideration for how <em>their app</em> must further the goal of absolute lock-in of the user to the Windows OS and the rest of Office - the true cash cows.
<p>
But obviously this is not the case. Otherwise, you'd see things like Asp.Net run well on a Apache stack (without extra mods), a version of SQL Server native to Linux, XBoxes that share media via a standard network interface, Zunes that sync using standard USB mass storage, MSN Messenger for Macs, etc etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This would make perfect sense if each product team at Microsoft had complete freedom to design their application without consideration for how their app must further the goal of absolute lock-in of the user to the Windows OS and the rest of Office - the true cash cows .
But obviously this is not the case .
Otherwise , you 'd see things like Asp.Net run well on a Apache stack ( without extra mods ) , a version of SQL Server native to Linux , XBoxes that share media via a standard network interface , Zunes that sync using standard USB mass storage , MSN Messenger for Macs , etc etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This would make perfect sense if each product team at Microsoft had complete freedom to design their application without consideration for how their app must further the goal of absolute lock-in of the user to the Windows OS and the rest of Office - the true cash cows.
But obviously this is not the case.
Otherwise, you'd see things like Asp.Net run well on a Apache stack (without extra mods), a version of SQL Server native to Linux, XBoxes that share media via a standard network interface, Zunes that sync using standard USB mass storage, MSN Messenger for Macs, etc etc.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29880397</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about PST files anymore?</title>
	<author>MarcQuadra</author>
	<datestamp>1256573160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's more than MS saying 'don't do that'!</p><p>The PST format requires a lot of small direct I/O, and when you mount one over CIFS/SMB you run the serious chance of filling up the queues on the client or even the server. I've brought down a fully-loaded and patched Server 2003 box with a PST -&gt; PST transfer over the wire, and by 'down' I mean really down, not responsive, not accepting new connections, and needing a reboot.</p><p>I've restored so many corrupt PST files from backup that I'm considering setting up a Dovecot IMAP server just as a mail archive for my users. It wouldn't send or receive mail, just act as an 'archive' for stuff they want to keep around forever.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's more than MS saying 'do n't do that ' ! The PST format requires a lot of small direct I/O , and when you mount one over CIFS/SMB you run the serious chance of filling up the queues on the client or even the server .
I 've brought down a fully-loaded and patched Server 2003 box with a PST - &gt; PST transfer over the wire , and by 'down ' I mean really down , not responsive , not accepting new connections , and needing a reboot.I 've restored so many corrupt PST files from backup that I 'm considering setting up a Dovecot IMAP server just as a mail archive for my users .
It would n't send or receive mail , just act as an 'archive ' for stuff they want to keep around forever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's more than MS saying 'don't do that'!The PST format requires a lot of small direct I/O, and when you mount one over CIFS/SMB you run the serious chance of filling up the queues on the client or even the server.
I've brought down a fully-loaded and patched Server 2003 box with a PST -&gt; PST transfer over the wire, and by 'down' I mean really down, not responsive, not accepting new connections, and needing a reboot.I've restored so many corrupt PST files from backup that I'm considering setting up a Dovecot IMAP server just as a mail archive for my users.
It wouldn't send or receive mail, just act as an 'archive' for stuff they want to keep around forever.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29882683</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about PST files anymore?</title>
	<author>jollyreaper</author>
	<datestamp>1256652300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Our central IT dept gives us something like 100MB of quota on the Exchange server. Running out of quota? The official advice is 'save your stuff in a PST file'.</p><p>Of course you can't save your PST on the IT dept-supplied backed-up network drive because MS say "don't do that". So people end up with PST files on unbacked-up local storage on a particular machine...</p></div><p>I feel your pain.</p><p>I'm completely sold on the utility of a product like Exchange/Outlook but Microsoft's implementation is sorely lacking. IT complains about people wanting to use their email like a file folder but hell, why not? Disk space is disk space. And offloading old mail into PST's just means you're more likely to lose things. And Microsoft's built-in search has been problematic at best. And we're not even yet talking about the backend difficulties of archiving to satisfy data retention policies.</p><p>There is massive room for improvement in the world of Exchange. The interface for end-users is clunky and many things are counter-intuitive. Google is making severe inroads into this very kind of collaborative environment, better than Exchange, better than Sharepoint. The competition should be a good thing.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Our central IT dept gives us something like 100MB of quota on the Exchange server .
Running out of quota ?
The official advice is 'save your stuff in a PST file'.Of course you ca n't save your PST on the IT dept-supplied backed-up network drive because MS say " do n't do that " .
So people end up with PST files on unbacked-up local storage on a particular machine...I feel your pain.I 'm completely sold on the utility of a product like Exchange/Outlook but Microsoft 's implementation is sorely lacking .
IT complains about people wanting to use their email like a file folder but hell , why not ?
Disk space is disk space .
And offloading old mail into PST 's just means you 're more likely to lose things .
And Microsoft 's built-in search has been problematic at best .
And we 're not even yet talking about the backend difficulties of archiving to satisfy data retention policies.There is massive room for improvement in the world of Exchange .
The interface for end-users is clunky and many things are counter-intuitive .
Google is making severe inroads into this very kind of collaborative environment , better than Exchange , better than Sharepoint .
The competition should be a good thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Our central IT dept gives us something like 100MB of quota on the Exchange server.
Running out of quota?
The official advice is 'save your stuff in a PST file'.Of course you can't save your PST on the IT dept-supplied backed-up network drive because MS say "don't do that".
So people end up with PST files on unbacked-up local storage on a particular machine...I feel your pain.I'm completely sold on the utility of a product like Exchange/Outlook but Microsoft's implementation is sorely lacking.
IT complains about people wanting to use their email like a file folder but hell, why not?
Disk space is disk space.
And offloading old mail into PST's just means you're more likely to lose things.
And Microsoft's built-in search has been problematic at best.
And we're not even yet talking about the backend difficulties of archiving to satisfy data retention policies.There is massive room for improvement in the world of Exchange.
The interface for end-users is clunky and many things are counter-intuitive.
Google is making severe inroads into this very kind of collaborative environment, better than Exchange, better than Sharepoint.
The competition should be a good thing.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29881527</id>
	<title>Entourage</title>
	<author>jdc18</author>
	<datestamp>1256634840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>i wonder if someday they are going to grow some balls and actually make their own(Microsoft) stuff compatible.  Because entourage which is the mac outlook sucks.  It cant open pst. It is a pain in the ass to migrate mails from outlook to entourage.</htmltext>
<tokenext>i wonder if someday they are going to grow some balls and actually make their own ( Microsoft ) stuff compatible .
Because entourage which is the mac outlook sucks .
It cant open pst .
It is a pain in the ass to migrate mails from outlook to entourage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i wonder if someday they are going to grow some balls and actually make their own(Microsoft) stuff compatible.
Because entourage which is the mac outlook sucks.
It cant open pst.
It is a pain in the ass to migrate mails from outlook to entourage.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29879085</id>
	<title>Embrace...</title>
	<author>mcbutterbuns</author>
	<datestamp>1256560620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Embrace<br>Extend<br>Extin... oh wait</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>EmbraceExtendExtin... oh wait</tokentext>
<sentencetext>EmbraceExtendExtin... oh wait</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29881625</id>
	<title>Now all we need is the Visio file format</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256636640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Being able to import files into a sensible mail format from a pst on a Linux system will be great, if some programmer/programming team cares to scratch that particular itch.</p><p>While Hell is freezing over, I'd also like Microsoft to open up the Visio file format. Then if a decent FLOSS drawing package appears, I can finally stop using Windows.</p><p>Then again, if MS use open formats, an incentive for me to move off them goes away - I can then decide which OS suits me: Windows, Linux, MacOS, Solaris, one of the BSDs - and WIndows will get a look in. As long as I'm locked in, I will be looking for ways to leave. If you leave the door open, I may just stay if it is a nice environment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Being able to import files into a sensible mail format from a pst on a Linux system will be great , if some programmer/programming team cares to scratch that particular itch.While Hell is freezing over , I 'd also like Microsoft to open up the Visio file format .
Then if a decent FLOSS drawing package appears , I can finally stop using Windows.Then again , if MS use open formats , an incentive for me to move off them goes away - I can then decide which OS suits me : Windows , Linux , MacOS , Solaris , one of the BSDs - and WIndows will get a look in .
As long as I 'm locked in , I will be looking for ways to leave .
If you leave the door open , I may just stay if it is a nice environment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Being able to import files into a sensible mail format from a pst on a Linux system will be great, if some programmer/programming team cares to scratch that particular itch.While Hell is freezing over, I'd also like Microsoft to open up the Visio file format.
Then if a decent FLOSS drawing package appears, I can finally stop using Windows.Then again, if MS use open formats, an incentive for me to move off them goes away - I can then decide which OS suits me: Windows, Linux, MacOS, Solaris, one of the BSDs - and WIndows will get a look in.
As long as I'm locked in, I will be looking for ways to leave.
If you leave the door open, I may just stay if it is a nice environment.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29882111</id>
	<title>If they want interoperability...</title>
	<author>jonadab</author>
	<datestamp>1256645760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe next they should fix Outlook to send attachments in the standard way, rather than embedding them in<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.tnef files.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe next they should fix Outlook to send attachments in the standard way , rather than embedding them in .tnef files .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe next they should fix Outlook to send attachments in the standard way, rather than embedding them in .tnef files.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29881117</id>
	<title>Re:I Don't Have a .PST</title>
	<author>CoolGopher</author>
	<datestamp>1256584320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><div><p> <em>I have an<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.ost file on my laptop you insensitive MS clods. </em></p> </htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an .ost file on my laptop you insensitive MS clods .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I have an .ost file on my laptop you insensitive MS clods.  </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29878751</id>
	<title>Re:I can't help but wonder what their motives are.</title>
	<author>bsDaemon</author>
	<datestamp>1256558460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Their motive is probably to make money, like always -- and like any business.  Even RedHat.  Sure, RH may employ kernel devs, Gnome devs, etc., but at the end of the day its just to make the system that they sell better.<br><br>Opening PST means being able to more freely move Outlook data between mail programs such as Evolution.  The more interoperable the mail client is, the less it matters if all your engineers are on Linux and all your marketers are on Windows, as this is likely just a step towards being able to have say, Evolution, fully support being able to talk with an Exchange server.  If you can get all of the features of Exchange across platforms at the expense of opening specs of a mail client that they don't really make that much money off of anyway, then they'll likely be able to make some more sales of Exchange server.<br><br>From a purely technical point of view, that may or may not be optimal, but if every part of the business could tie in with the Exchange server regardless of what operating system they need to run for the rest of their tasks, then it makes it all the more attractive from a business standpoint.<br><br>I could just be off base though, but it seems like that is a possible eventuality.  This just has to do with data storage I think, but even being able to import contact lists, mail boxes, etc, more smoothly is a good start, I'd say.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Their motive is probably to make money , like always -- and like any business .
Even RedHat .
Sure , RH may employ kernel devs , Gnome devs , etc. , but at the end of the day its just to make the system that they sell better.Opening PST means being able to more freely move Outlook data between mail programs such as Evolution .
The more interoperable the mail client is , the less it matters if all your engineers are on Linux and all your marketers are on Windows , as this is likely just a step towards being able to have say , Evolution , fully support being able to talk with an Exchange server .
If you can get all of the features of Exchange across platforms at the expense of opening specs of a mail client that they do n't really make that much money off of anyway , then they 'll likely be able to make some more sales of Exchange server.From a purely technical point of view , that may or may not be optimal , but if every part of the business could tie in with the Exchange server regardless of what operating system they need to run for the rest of their tasks , then it makes it all the more attractive from a business standpoint.I could just be off base though , but it seems like that is a possible eventuality .
This just has to do with data storage I think , but even being able to import contact lists , mail boxes , etc , more smoothly is a good start , I 'd say .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Their motive is probably to make money, like always -- and like any business.
Even RedHat.
Sure, RH may employ kernel devs, Gnome devs, etc., but at the end of the day its just to make the system that they sell better.Opening PST means being able to more freely move Outlook data between mail programs such as Evolution.
The more interoperable the mail client is, the less it matters if all your engineers are on Linux and all your marketers are on Windows, as this is likely just a step towards being able to have say, Evolution, fully support being able to talk with an Exchange server.
If you can get all of the features of Exchange across platforms at the expense of opening specs of a mail client that they don't really make that much money off of anyway, then they'll likely be able to make some more sales of Exchange server.From a purely technical point of view, that may or may not be optimal, but if every part of the business could tie in with the Exchange server regardless of what operating system they need to run for the rest of their tasks, then it makes it all the more attractive from a business standpoint.I could just be off base though, but it seems like that is a possible eventuality.
This just has to do with data storage I think, but even being able to import contact lists, mail boxes, etc, more smoothly is a good start, I'd say.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29881565</id>
	<title>Re:PST format a dad design idea from the start</title>
	<author>msormune</author>
	<datestamp>1256635680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because a single PST file is harder to automatically backup on a daily basis that multiple files spanning in numerous mail directories?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because a single PST file is harder to automatically backup on a daily basis that multiple files spanning in numerous mail directories ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because a single PST file is harder to automatically backup on a daily basis that multiple files spanning in numerous mail directories?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29881229</id>
	<title>Sync!!!</title>
	<author>bemymonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1256586000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Quick, someone write an app that syncs my contacts from Outlook 2007 (or WM6.1/6.5) to Thunderbird... Google's buggy Exchange Activesync implementation is driving me bat shit crazy.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Quick , someone write an app that syncs my contacts from Outlook 2007 ( or WM6.1/6.5 ) to Thunderbird... Google 's buggy Exchange Activesync implementation is driving me bat shit crazy .
: (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Quick, someone write an app that syncs my contacts from Outlook 2007 (or WM6.1/6.5) to Thunderbird... Google's buggy Exchange Activesync implementation is driving me bat shit crazy.
:(</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29881051</id>
	<title>So who is MS selling the patenttrolling rights to?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256582640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Open Specification Promise is pretty worthless.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Open Specification Promise is pretty worthless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Open Specification Promise is pretty worthless.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29882181</id>
	<title>Cynical ?</title>
	<author>Zoxed</author>
	<datestamp>1256647080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mod me down for being cynically but: give MS's history, the fact that no release date is given and that presumably they just have to edit/issue an already internally documented format then it just sounds like hot air aimed at naive users and EU legislators.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mod me down for being cynically but : give MS 's history , the fact that no release date is given and that presumably they just have to edit/issue an already internally documented format then it just sounds like hot air aimed at naive users and EU legislators .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mod me down for being cynically but: give MS's history, the fact that no release date is given and that presumably they just have to edit/issue an already internally documented format then it just sounds like hot air aimed at naive users and EU legislators.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29879011</id>
	<title>Named Socket interface</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256560140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Make your named socket a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.pst file and outlook can access your real email database through the defined interface.<br>Nice and spiffy and you don't end up tied to the Microsoft format.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Make your named socket a .pst file and outlook can access your real email database through the defined interface.Nice and spiffy and you do n't end up tied to the Microsoft format .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Make your named socket a .pst file and outlook can access your real email database through the defined interface.Nice and spiffy and you don't end up tied to the Microsoft format.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29878925</id>
	<title>Who will benefit from this?</title>
	<author>zhilla2</author>
	<datestamp>1256559600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People who program different migration utilities benefit from this, and of course users of such tools. Even wild ideas like Fuse filesystem that mounts it as Maildir.<br>So, converters, importers, exporters, indexing tools, repair/forensics, optimize/defragment/find duplicates tools, sort, grep.<br>Also, if its a standard than it needs to be STANDARDIZED, so no special treatment for own products.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People who program different migration utilities benefit from this , and of course users of such tools .
Even wild ideas like Fuse filesystem that mounts it as Maildir.So , converters , importers , exporters , indexing tools , repair/forensics , optimize/defragment/find duplicates tools , sort , grep.Also , if its a standard than it needs to be STANDARDIZED , so no special treatment for own products .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People who program different migration utilities benefit from this, and of course users of such tools.
Even wild ideas like Fuse filesystem that mounts it as Maildir.So, converters, importers, exporters, indexing tools, repair/forensics, optimize/defragment/find duplicates tools, sort, grep.Also, if its a standard than it needs to be STANDARDIZED, so no special treatment for own products.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29887427</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about PST files anymore?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256673960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Another +1 for dovecot. But we use it for all our company mail. Instead of messing with outlook we have a cheap but ridiculously fast Ubuntu file / mail / print server, which pols our ISP over POP3, and serves mail over IMAP to the internal network.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Another + 1 for dovecot .
But we use it for all our company mail .
Instead of messing with outlook we have a cheap but ridiculously fast Ubuntu file / mail / print server , which pols our ISP over POP3 , and serves mail over IMAP to the internal network .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Another +1 for dovecot.
But we use it for all our company mail.
Instead of messing with outlook we have a cheap but ridiculously fast Ubuntu file / mail / print server, which pols our ISP over POP3, and serves mail over IMAP to the internal network.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29879829</id>
	<title>Re:PST format a dad design idea from the start</title>
	<author>Chris Mattern</author>
	<datestamp>1256566500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Agreed that nobody else will want to use this awful, awful format.  However, opening it is very important, as it now makes easy to get your mail *out* of that format.  There's a lot people's mail locked up in a lot of PST files with no easy way to get them out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Agreed that nobody else will want to use this awful , awful format .
However , opening it is very important , as it now makes easy to get your mail * out * of that format .
There 's a lot people 's mail locked up in a lot of PST files with no easy way to get them out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agreed that nobody else will want to use this awful, awful format.
However, opening it is very important, as it now makes easy to get your mail *out* of that format.
There's a lot people's mail locked up in a lot of PST files with no easy way to get them out.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29878797</id>
	<title>Re:PST format a dad design idea from the start</title>
	<author>jellomizer</author>
	<datestamp>1256558760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Exactly that is why they are opening it.  The next version of Outlook will use a new format.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly that is why they are opening it .
The next version of Outlook will use a new format .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly that is why they are opening it.
The next version of Outlook will use a new format.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29894365</id>
	<title>Ask Leopard (10.5+) users</title>
	<author>Ilgaz</author>
	<datestamp>1256723400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People using Entourage (Outlook (lite) for Mac) had to live that surprise when their OS X Leopard with Time Machine went insane with 1-2 GB backups hourly. Some didn't figure what is going on until TM started to delete old backups for space. MS, as usual, didn't even bother tell the people using "enemy OS". I think they still have to exclude their mails while backing up and use a different application for backing up their mails.</p><p>Apple went from mbox (flat) to single mail files almost instantly when they had Spotlight enabled since Spotlight is not suitable for single mailbox. Opera guys did the same in recent versions for safety, indexing and backup reasons. It is only MS Entourage which is amazingly expensive doesn't have that choice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People using Entourage ( Outlook ( lite ) for Mac ) had to live that surprise when their OS X Leopard with Time Machine went insane with 1-2 GB backups hourly .
Some did n't figure what is going on until TM started to delete old backups for space .
MS , as usual , did n't even bother tell the people using " enemy OS " .
I think they still have to exclude their mails while backing up and use a different application for backing up their mails.Apple went from mbox ( flat ) to single mail files almost instantly when they had Spotlight enabled since Spotlight is not suitable for single mailbox .
Opera guys did the same in recent versions for safety , indexing and backup reasons .
It is only MS Entourage which is amazingly expensive does n't have that choice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People using Entourage (Outlook (lite) for Mac) had to live that surprise when their OS X Leopard with Time Machine went insane with 1-2 GB backups hourly.
Some didn't figure what is going on until TM started to delete old backups for space.
MS, as usual, didn't even bother tell the people using "enemy OS".
I think they still have to exclude their mails while backing up and use a different application for backing up their mails.Apple went from mbox (flat) to single mail files almost instantly when they had Spotlight enabled since Spotlight is not suitable for single mailbox.
Opera guys did the same in recent versions for safety, indexing and backup reasons.
It is only MS Entourage which is amazingly expensive doesn't have that choice.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29883155</id>
	<title>Re:Awesome!</title>
	<author>WMD\_88</author>
	<datestamp>1256655000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Office comes with a tool to fix corrupted PST files.  Works pretty well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Office comes with a tool to fix corrupted PST files .
Works pretty well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Office comes with a tool to fix corrupted PST files.
Works pretty well.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29879331</id>
	<title>I Don't Have a .PST</title>
	<author>Kozar\_The\_Malignant</author>
	<datestamp>1256562480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have an<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.ost file on my laptop you insensitive MS clods.  Does this great revelation include them?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an .ost file on my laptop you insensitive MS clods .
Does this great revelation include them ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an .ost file on my laptop you insensitive MS clods.
Does this great revelation include them?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29881563</id>
	<title>how nice of MS, but not really necessary any more</title>
	<author>natxo asenjo</author>
	<datestamp>1256635560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have succesfully used libpst (http://www.five-ten-sg.com/libpst/) to import pst files. I cannot remembeer since when, but longer than one year ago at least.</p><p>So this was already possible (and not thanks to them, by the way).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have succesfully used libpst ( http : //www.five-ten-sg.com/libpst/ ) to import pst files .
I can not remembeer since when , but longer than one year ago at least.So this was already possible ( and not thanks to them , by the way ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have succesfully used libpst (http://www.five-ten-sg.com/libpst/) to import pst files.
I cannot remembeer since when, but longer than one year ago at least.So this was already possible (and not thanks to them, by the way).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29879233</id>
	<title>Re:what happen to the obligatory tag?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256561640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Parent poster is a typical slashbot freetard, covered with hair and grotesque body odor and bad ideas.</p><p>In reality, nobody uses PST for data exchange and the format was reverse-engineered decades ago. There is no strategic upside to a embrace-extend approach here. itsnotatrap.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Parent poster is a typical slashbot freetard , covered with hair and grotesque body odor and bad ideas.In reality , nobody uses PST for data exchange and the format was reverse-engineered decades ago .
There is no strategic upside to a embrace-extend approach here .
itsnotatrap .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Parent poster is a typical slashbot freetard, covered with hair and grotesque body odor and bad ideas.In reality, nobody uses PST for data exchange and the format was reverse-engineered decades ago.
There is no strategic upside to a embrace-extend approach here.
itsnotatrap.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29879111</id>
	<title>Re:PST format a dad design idea from the start</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256560860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The corruption isn't a fault of the spec, it's the implementation. A proper implementation wouldn't have this problem. This also means you'll eventually be able to take<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.pst files form your day job (where they might use Outlook) and keep a copy at home in Thuderbird. I really don't see a down side to this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The corruption is n't a fault of the spec , it 's the implementation .
A proper implementation would n't have this problem .
This also means you 'll eventually be able to take .pst files form your day job ( where they might use Outlook ) and keep a copy at home in Thuderbird .
I really do n't see a down side to this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The corruption isn't a fault of the spec, it's the implementation.
A proper implementation wouldn't have this problem.
This also means you'll eventually be able to take .pst files form your day job (where they might use Outlook) and keep a copy at home in Thuderbird.
I really don't see a down side to this.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29883261</id>
	<title>celebrate</title>
	<author>pnutjam</author>
	<datestamp>1256655540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>excuse me while I do some cartwheels down the hall...</htmltext>
<tokenext>excuse me while I do some cartwheels down the hall.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>excuse me while I do some cartwheels down the hall...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1936227.29878991</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about PST files anymore?</title>
	<author>Bazman</author>
	<datestamp>1256560020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Our central IT dept gives us something like 100MB of quota on the Exchange server. Running out of quota? The official advice is 'save your stuff in a PST file'.</p><p>Of course you can't save your PST on the IT dept-supplied backed-up network drive because MS say "don't do that". So people end up with PST files on unbacked-up local storage on a particular machine...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Our central IT dept gives us something like 100MB of quota on the Exchange server .
Running out of quota ?
The official advice is 'save your stuff in a PST file'.Of course you ca n't save your PST on the IT dept-supplied backed-up network drive because MS say " do n't do that " .
So people end up with PST files on unbacked-up local storage on a particular machine.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Our central IT dept gives us something like 100MB of quota on the Exchange server.
Running out of quota?
The official advice is 'save your stuff in a PST file'.Of course you can't save your PST on the IT dept-supplied backed-up network drive because MS say "don't do that".
So people end up with PST files on unbacked-up local storage on a particular machine...</sentencetext>
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