<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_24_033257</id>
	<title>Universal Phone Charger Approved By UN Body</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1256386500000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>andylim writes <i>"Plans for a universal mobile phone charger have been approved by the International Telecommunication Union (ITU), a United Nations body. <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33448863/ns/technology\_and\_science-tech\_and\_gadgets">The charger has a micro-USB port</a> at the connecting end, using technology similar to what is commonly used with digital cameras. It is not compulsory for manufacturers to adopt the new chargers, but the ITU says that some have already signed up to it. 'We are planning to launch the universal charger internationally <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8323018.stm">during the first half of 2010</a>,' Aldo Liguori, spokesperson for Sony Ericsson told the BBC."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>andylim writes " Plans for a universal mobile phone charger have been approved by the International Telecommunication Union ( ITU ) , a United Nations body .
The charger has a micro-USB port at the connecting end , using technology similar to what is commonly used with digital cameras .
It is not compulsory for manufacturers to adopt the new chargers , but the ITU says that some have already signed up to it .
'We are planning to launch the universal charger internationally during the first half of 2010, ' Aldo Liguori , spokesperson for Sony Ericsson told the BBC .
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<sentencetext>andylim writes "Plans for a universal mobile phone charger have been approved by the International Telecommunication Union (ITU), a United Nations body.
The charger has a micro-USB port at the connecting end, using technology similar to what is commonly used with digital cameras.
It is not compulsory for manufacturers to adopt the new chargers, but the ITU says that some have already signed up to it.
'We are planning to launch the universal charger internationally during the first half of 2010,' Aldo Liguori, spokesperson for Sony Ericsson told the BBC.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29857465</id>
	<title>Re:ITU, the folk who should run the WWW.</title>
	<author>raju1kabir</author>
	<datestamp>1256406240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>This folks is one of the two UN organisations (both older than the UN) who could run the WWW better than ICANN</p></div></blockquote><p>1. ICANN doesn't run the www.
</p><p>2. ITU is incredibly internet-hostile. The ITU's vision of the internet is a closed network run by national telco monopolies where everything is charged for. If they had their way you'd be paying $10,000 for copies of each IETF document.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This folks is one of the two UN organisations ( both older than the UN ) who could run the WWW better than ICANN1 .
ICANN does n't run the www .
2. ITU is incredibly internet-hostile .
The ITU 's vision of the internet is a closed network run by national telco monopolies where everything is charged for .
If they had their way you 'd be paying $ 10,000 for copies of each IETF document .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This folks is one of the two UN organisations (both older than the UN) who could run the WWW better than ICANN1.
ICANN doesn't run the www.
2. ITU is incredibly internet-hostile.
The ITU's vision of the internet is a closed network run by national telco monopolies where everything is charged for.
If they had their way you'd be paying $10,000 for copies of each IETF document.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29859383</id>
	<title>Re:Huh?</title>
	<author>evilviper</author>
	<datestamp>1256376840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Now all we need is a universal standard of (in the words of Douglas Adams) 'little dongly things' for everything else</p></div></blockquote><p>Scott Adams is a comedian, not an electrical engineer.</p><p>The amperage only matters if it isn't high enough...  A 10amp wall-wart can power your low-power devices just fine.</p><p>That just leaves polarity, connector, and voltage.  There are PLENTY of universal power supplies out there which come with a dozen connectors, and the ability to switch polarity and voltages from 1 to 12 volts, covering just about everything but laptops...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now all we need is a universal standard of ( in the words of Douglas Adams ) 'little dongly things ' for everything elseScott Adams is a comedian , not an electrical engineer.The amperage only matters if it is n't high enough... A 10amp wall-wart can power your low-power devices just fine.That just leaves polarity , connector , and voltage .
There are PLENTY of universal power supplies out there which come with a dozen connectors , and the ability to switch polarity and voltages from 1 to 12 volts , covering just about everything but laptops.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now all we need is a universal standard of (in the words of Douglas Adams) 'little dongly things' for everything elseScott Adams is a comedian, not an electrical engineer.The amperage only matters if it isn't high enough...  A 10amp wall-wart can power your low-power devices just fine.That just leaves polarity, connector, and voltage.
There are PLENTY of universal power supplies out there which come with a dozen connectors, and the ability to switch polarity and voltages from 1 to 12 volts, covering just about everything but laptops...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29857809</id>
	<title>Re:Micro-USB?</title>
	<author>Lvdata</author>
	<datestamp>1256409000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My palm pre uses a AC to USB jack with 1 amp out. It goes to my touchstone - a induction charger and will charge it at 680ma. I have 120v in my car and use the touchstone to charge the phone and avoid the oops I stopped to quick, the phone hit the floor and BROKE the connector in the phone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My palm pre uses a AC to USB jack with 1 amp out .
It goes to my touchstone - a induction charger and will charge it at 680ma .
I have 120v in my car and use the touchstone to charge the phone and avoid the oops I stopped to quick , the phone hit the floor and BROKE the connector in the phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My palm pre uses a AC to USB jack with 1 amp out.
It goes to my touchstone - a induction charger and will charge it at 680ma.
I have 120v in my car and use the touchstone to charge the phone and avoid the oops I stopped to quick, the phone hit the floor and BROKE the connector in the phone.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29855869</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29855709</id>
	<title>Great!</title>
	<author>Grimnir512</author>
	<datestamp>1256390400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Now I can take my UK charger to America and still have to but a new adapter/charger!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now I can take my UK charger to America and still have to but a new adapter/charger !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now I can take my UK charger to America and still have to but a new adapter/charger!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29856781</id>
	<title>Re:Finally</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1256400840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What twisted your mind into thinking, a non-elected group, that is not even remotely connected to the constitutions of the countries in it, and is none of the 3 pillars of a government, would have any jurisdiction in those countries?</p><p>That would be totalitarian dictatorship. Plain and simple.</p><p>Additionally, where would you go, if that totalitarian global, all-encompassing dictatorship, would happen to not like your views and actions?? There would be not other country to flee to. The concept of asylum would cease to exist.</p><p>And you just talked about it, like it were something normal...<br>I fear for this world...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What twisted your mind into thinking , a non-elected group , that is not even remotely connected to the constitutions of the countries in it , and is none of the 3 pillars of a government , would have any jurisdiction in those countries ? That would be totalitarian dictatorship .
Plain and simple.Additionally , where would you go , if that totalitarian global , all-encompassing dictatorship , would happen to not like your views and actions ? ?
There would be not other country to flee to .
The concept of asylum would cease to exist.And you just talked about it , like it were something normal...I fear for this world.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What twisted your mind into thinking, a non-elected group, that is not even remotely connected to the constitutions of the countries in it, and is none of the 3 pillars of a government, would have any jurisdiction in those countries?That would be totalitarian dictatorship.
Plain and simple.Additionally, where would you go, if that totalitarian global, all-encompassing dictatorship, would happen to not like your views and actions??
There would be not other country to flee to.
The concept of asylum would cease to exist.And you just talked about it, like it were something normal...I fear for this world...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29863865</id>
	<title>how about outlets?</title>
	<author>j1mmy</author>
	<datestamp>1256479080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>could we at least get an international standard outlet? same prongs? same voltage?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>could we at least get an international standard outlet ?
same prongs ?
same voltage ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>could we at least get an international standard outlet?
same prongs?
same voltage?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29857333</id>
	<title>Re:Huh? I mean...HUH?</title>
	<author>Goaway</author>
	<datestamp>1256405220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do you have even the slightest idea what the ITU is?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you have even the slightest idea what the ITU is ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you have even the slightest idea what the ITU is?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29856217</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29856525</id>
	<title>Re:Finally</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256398260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't think it should be mandatory -- for accessibility reasons.  I have a friend with Parkinson's disease that had a really difficult time with the micro-usb.  Luckily there were alternatives available that he could manage better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think it should be mandatory -- for accessibility reasons .
I have a friend with Parkinson 's disease that had a really difficult time with the micro-usb .
Luckily there were alternatives available that he could manage better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think it should be mandatory -- for accessibility reasons.
I have a friend with Parkinson's disease that had a really difficult time with the micro-usb.
Luckily there were alternatives available that he could manage better.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29855829</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29859687</id>
	<title>Re:Huh?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256378820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Small switching power supplies can operate from 100 to 400 volts at 50 or 60 HZ or DC already.</p><p>There is a current push to develop a single power plug than can work in any country.</p><p>By using a standard USB connector then the voltage would be 5 volts DC @ 500 MA.</p><p>There would be no need for small dongly things unless the device being powered required somthing other than what the USB specs permit.</p><p>About friggin time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Small switching power supplies can operate from 100 to 400 volts at 50 or 60 HZ or DC already.There is a current push to develop a single power plug than can work in any country.By using a standard USB connector then the voltage would be 5 volts DC @ 500 MA.There would be no need for small dongly things unless the device being powered required somthing other than what the USB specs permit.About friggin time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Small switching power supplies can operate from 100 to 400 volts at 50 or 60 HZ or DC already.There is a current push to develop a single power plug than can work in any country.By using a standard USB connector then the voltage would be 5 volts DC @ 500 MA.There would be no need for small dongly things unless the device being powered required somthing other than what the USB specs permit.About friggin time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29856951</id>
	<title>Re:ITU, the folk who should run the WWW.</title>
	<author>convolvatron</author>
	<datestamp>1256402160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>obviously you haven't worked with the itu in the past. they had a whole replacement for the internet worked<br>out. trees worth of documnets written in languages and metalanugages where the shift was not entirely clear. all<br>just to describe an ananlogue of tpc/ip</p><p>despite is inherent us-centrism i think the ietf did a great job.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>obviously you have n't worked with the itu in the past .
they had a whole replacement for the internet workedout .
trees worth of documnets written in languages and metalanugages where the shift was not entirely clear .
alljust to describe an ananlogue of tpc/ipdespite is inherent us-centrism i think the ietf did a great job .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>obviously you haven't worked with the itu in the past.
they had a whole replacement for the internet workedout.
trees worth of documnets written in languages and metalanugages where the shift was not entirely clear.
alljust to describe an ananlogue of tpc/ipdespite is inherent us-centrism i think the ietf did a great job.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29856183</id>
	<title>Microsoft's using Vibrant to astroturf Bing?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256395260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is getting as bad as X10 and Netflix, we've got Microsoft using those nasty Vibrant in-page popups, to generate hits on Bing I assume... every time someone's mouse drifts over one of those popups they get another hit on Bing to inflate their popularity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is getting as bad as X10 and Netflix , we 've got Microsoft using those nasty Vibrant in-page popups , to generate hits on Bing I assume... every time someone 's mouse drifts over one of those popups they get another hit on Bing to inflate their popularity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is getting as bad as X10 and Netflix, we've got Microsoft using those nasty Vibrant in-page popups, to generate hits on Bing I assume... every time someone's mouse drifts over one of those popups they get another hit on Bing to inflate their popularity.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29863713</id>
	<title>Re:I wish they had an international charger for al</title>
	<author>mjwx</author>
	<datestamp>1256477340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>voltages.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>

Blame the Yanks for that one. Most of the world operates on 210-240v. As an Australian I can take a 240v Australian power pack to any country in Asia except Japan (even then its mostly OK because 110v will not cause much damage to a PSU expecting 240v). My biggest issue is that Most of SE Asia use the NEMA plug (which will fall out if a slight breeze passes it) or the even more annoying UK plug.<br> <br>

12v is almost never used although most hotels in the Philipines will have a 12v plug in their bathrooms.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>voltages .
Blame the Yanks for that one .
Most of the world operates on 210-240v .
As an Australian I can take a 240v Australian power pack to any country in Asia except Japan ( even then its mostly OK because 110v will not cause much damage to a PSU expecting 240v ) .
My biggest issue is that Most of SE Asia use the NEMA plug ( which will fall out if a slight breeze passes it ) or the even more annoying UK plug .
12v is almost never used although most hotels in the Philipines will have a 12v plug in their bathrooms .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>voltages.
Blame the Yanks for that one.
Most of the world operates on 210-240v.
As an Australian I can take a 240v Australian power pack to any country in Asia except Japan (even then its mostly OK because 110v will not cause much damage to a PSU expecting 240v).
My biggest issue is that Most of SE Asia use the NEMA plug (which will fall out if a slight breeze passes it) or the even more annoying UK plug.
12v is almost never used although most hotels in the Philipines will have a 12v plug in their bathrooms.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29855869</id>
	<title>Micro-USB?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256392140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Great. Now I can have <i>everything</i> limited to charging at, at a maximum, 500 mA @ 5 V! Just what I've always want... oh wait, I think the charging times for most of my gadgets are already <i>too long</i>. If you can't charge to full capacity within a lunch break, it takes too damned long.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Great .
Now I can have everything limited to charging at , at a maximum , 500 mA @ 5 V !
Just what I 've always want... oh wait , I think the charging times for most of my gadgets are already too long .
If you ca n't charge to full capacity within a lunch break , it takes too damned long .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Great.
Now I can have everything limited to charging at, at a maximum, 500 mA @ 5 V!
Just what I've always want... oh wait, I think the charging times for most of my gadgets are already too long.
If you can't charge to full capacity within a lunch break, it takes too damned long.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29855713</id>
	<title>Go for it ITU!</title>
	<author>mango9</author>
	<datestamp>1256390460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Make a whole lot of sense to me... could use more of the same in other areas.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Make a whole lot of sense to me... could use more of the same in other areas .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Make a whole lot of sense to me... could use more of the same in other areas.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29867163</id>
	<title>Re:ITU, the folk who should run the WWW.</title>
	<author>Fjan11</author>
	<datestamp>1256465460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>d) they propose to standardize on a 2.5W version of micro-USB to charge phones, while most modern smart phones need around 5W and future fast-charging phones will need even more</htmltext>
<tokenext>d ) they propose to standardize on a 2.5W version of micro-USB to charge phones , while most modern smart phones need around 5W and future fast-charging phones will need even more</tokentext>
<sentencetext>d) they propose to standardize on a 2.5W version of micro-USB to charge phones, while most modern smart phones need around 5W and future fast-charging phones will need even more</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29856095</id>
	<title>Re:Huh?</title>
	<author>wrencherd</author>
	<datestamp>1256394300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>wikipedia agrees with you:   <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro\_usb#Mini\_and\_Micro" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">As of January 30, 2009 Micro-USB has been accepted by almost all cell phone manufacturers as the standard charging port (including Apple, Motorola, Nokia, LG, RIM, Samsung, Sony Ericsson) in the EU and most of the world.</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>And I have a sanyo and a samsung that both use it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>wikipedia agrees with you : As of January 30 , 2009 Micro-USB has been accepted by almost all cell phone manufacturers as the standard charging port ( including Apple , Motorola , Nokia , LG , RIM , Samsung , Sony Ericsson ) in the EU and most of the world .
[ wikipedia.org ] And I have a sanyo and a samsung that both use it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>wikipedia agrees with you:   As of January 30, 2009 Micro-USB has been accepted by almost all cell phone manufacturers as the standard charging port (including Apple, Motorola, Nokia, LG, RIM, Samsung, Sony Ericsson) in the EU and most of the world.
[wikipedia.org]And I have a sanyo and a samsung that both use it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29855707</id>
	<title>Huh?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256390400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My last three phones have all had a mini-usb charge/data port.</p><p>It's pretty much the standard already.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My last three phones have all had a mini-usb charge/data port.It 's pretty much the standard already .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My last three phones have all had a mini-usb charge/data port.It's pretty much the standard already.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29856801</id>
	<title>Re:Finally</title>
	<author>jellomizer</author>
	<datestamp>1256401080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is really that big of deal? I have never really been bothered by a variety of Cell Phone chargers. I get a new phone every 3 or 4 years, my charger that comes with the phone usually lasts longer then the phone.  The only charger I had problem with wasn't with the charger but stupid engineering by the part of Motorola where they made the connector on the phone not click in well and make it difficult to get a full charge as it will wiggle out after a few minutes.  However even with standard phone chargers the same thing can occur.</p><p>For the most part my phones I had for the past 11 years all kept their charge for the full day. When I got home I plugged them in and when I got up the next morning I had a fully charged phone for the day.  This push for standardizing phone charges just seems silly and not worth the effort.</p><p>I have more issues with standard sizing for plumbing fittings. Where the hose that goes to the toilet doesn't fit the hose that goes to the sink, and if you took a look at them and eyeballed it you probably wouldn't see the difference, inconsistent combinations of male and female connectors.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is really that big of deal ?
I have never really been bothered by a variety of Cell Phone chargers .
I get a new phone every 3 or 4 years , my charger that comes with the phone usually lasts longer then the phone .
The only charger I had problem with was n't with the charger but stupid engineering by the part of Motorola where they made the connector on the phone not click in well and make it difficult to get a full charge as it will wiggle out after a few minutes .
However even with standard phone chargers the same thing can occur.For the most part my phones I had for the past 11 years all kept their charge for the full day .
When I got home I plugged them in and when I got up the next morning I had a fully charged phone for the day .
This push for standardizing phone charges just seems silly and not worth the effort.I have more issues with standard sizing for plumbing fittings .
Where the hose that goes to the toilet does n't fit the hose that goes to the sink , and if you took a look at them and eyeballed it you probably would n't see the difference , inconsistent combinations of male and female connectors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is really that big of deal?
I have never really been bothered by a variety of Cell Phone chargers.
I get a new phone every 3 or 4 years, my charger that comes with the phone usually lasts longer then the phone.
The only charger I had problem with wasn't with the charger but stupid engineering by the part of Motorola where they made the connector on the phone not click in well and make it difficult to get a full charge as it will wiggle out after a few minutes.
However even with standard phone chargers the same thing can occur.For the most part my phones I had for the past 11 years all kept their charge for the full day.
When I got home I plugged them in and when I got up the next morning I had a fully charged phone for the day.
This push for standardizing phone charges just seems silly and not worth the effort.I have more issues with standard sizing for plumbing fittings.
Where the hose that goes to the toilet doesn't fit the hose that goes to the sink, and if you took a look at them and eyeballed it you probably wouldn't see the difference, inconsistent combinations of male and female connectors.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29856411</id>
	<title>An Urgently Needed Tool</title>
	<author>hcgdietadvisor</author>
	<datestamp>1256397120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I like it! It will surely save us lot of money while on international business traveling. Phone communication expenses is my large bill during trips.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I like it !
It will surely save us lot of money while on international business traveling .
Phone communication expenses is my large bill during trips .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like it!
It will surely save us lot of money while on international business traveling.
Phone communication expenses is my large bill during trips.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29864859</id>
	<title>Korea</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256488860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>South Korea currently uses a standard phone charger, and then the phone company gives you a gender with your phone purchase.</p><p>Everyone just carries around their gender (lol) and can use any charger.</p><p>You actually no longer get a charger with a new phone because they assume you already have one with your previous.  They just give you your gender (lol).</p><p>I wonder if there's a better term than gender.  Your adapter?</p><p>"Hey, lemme borrow your gender"</p><p>Am I not funny?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>South Korea currently uses a standard phone charger , and then the phone company gives you a gender with your phone purchase.Everyone just carries around their gender ( lol ) and can use any charger.You actually no longer get a charger with a new phone because they assume you already have one with your previous .
They just give you your gender ( lol ) .I wonder if there 's a better term than gender .
Your adapter ?
" Hey , lem me borrow your gender " Am I not funny ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>South Korea currently uses a standard phone charger, and then the phone company gives you a gender with your phone purchase.Everyone just carries around their gender (lol) and can use any charger.You actually no longer get a charger with a new phone because they assume you already have one with your previous.
They just give you your gender (lol).I wonder if there's a better term than gender.
Your adapter?
"Hey, lemme borrow your gender"Am I not funny?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29856347</id>
	<title>Re:similar to?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256396460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My wife's new phone has a micro-USB port for the charger, but the only way to add data is via a micro-SD card.</p><p>My Motorola RAZR V3r is mini-usb, as well as my chi-pod and the digital camera that I use at work. One charger to rule them all, one charger to bind them.</p><p>With the seem editor and file manager in moto4lin I can tweak the RAZR as much as I want, as a result of which I have avoided getting a new phone for several years. Motorola doesn't make RAZR anymore, afaik.</p><p>Mini-USB is convenient and I wouldn't mind seeing it in everything. The micro-USB doesn't seem as robust, but it may simply be unfamiliar.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My wife 's new phone has a micro-USB port for the charger , but the only way to add data is via a micro-SD card.My Motorola RAZR V3r is mini-usb , as well as my chi-pod and the digital camera that I use at work .
One charger to rule them all , one charger to bind them.With the seem editor and file manager in moto4lin I can tweak the RAZR as much as I want , as a result of which I have avoided getting a new phone for several years .
Motorola does n't make RAZR anymore , afaik.Mini-USB is convenient and I would n't mind seeing it in everything .
The micro-USB does n't seem as robust , but it may simply be unfamiliar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My wife's new phone has a micro-USB port for the charger, but the only way to add data is via a micro-SD card.My Motorola RAZR V3r is mini-usb, as well as my chi-pod and the digital camera that I use at work.
One charger to rule them all, one charger to bind them.With the seem editor and file manager in moto4lin I can tweak the RAZR as much as I want, as a result of which I have avoided getting a new phone for several years.
Motorola doesn't make RAZR anymore, afaik.Mini-USB is convenient and I wouldn't mind seeing it in everything.
The micro-USB doesn't seem as robust, but it may simply be unfamiliar.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29855737</id>
	<title>Finally</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256390640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If Apple would now implement a micro-USB port onto the iPhone instead of that dock connector.</p><p>And preferably something easy to take out. The end of the cable that came with my iPhone is rather small and hard to pull compared to the one that came with my 2nd gen. Nano.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Apple would now implement a micro-USB port onto the iPhone instead of that dock connector.And preferably something easy to take out .
The end of the cable that came with my iPhone is rather small and hard to pull compared to the one that came with my 2nd gen. Nano .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Apple would now implement a micro-USB port onto the iPhone instead of that dock connector.And preferably something easy to take out.
The end of the cable that came with my iPhone is rather small and hard to pull compared to the one that came with my 2nd gen. Nano.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29855993</id>
	<title>Re:Finally</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256393400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because the UN was never given the power to mandate an electronic design.  They can offer an opinion (recommendation) but that's it.</p><p>Nor should the UN make that grab for power, because once you go down that road, eventually the UN will start mandating what kind of roof you can install on your house.  It's bad enough I have Congress telling me how much corn/potatoes I can or cannot grow in my own backyard.  They were never granted that power under the Constitution, but since the mid-1930s they've exercised the power.  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard\_v.\_Filburn" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard\_v.\_Filburn</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because the UN was never given the power to mandate an electronic design .
They can offer an opinion ( recommendation ) but that 's it.Nor should the UN make that grab for power , because once you go down that road , eventually the UN will start mandating what kind of roof you can install on your house .
It 's bad enough I have Congress telling me how much corn/potatoes I can or can not grow in my own backyard .
They were never granted that power under the Constitution , but since the mid-1930s they 've exercised the power .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard \ _v. \ _Filburn [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because the UN was never given the power to mandate an electronic design.
They can offer an opinion (recommendation) but that's it.Nor should the UN make that grab for power, because once you go down that road, eventually the UN will start mandating what kind of roof you can install on your house.
It's bad enough I have Congress telling me how much corn/potatoes I can or cannot grow in my own backyard.
They were never granted that power under the Constitution, but since the mid-1930s they've exercised the power.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard\_v.\_Filburn [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29858365</id>
	<title>standard good, wrong standard bad</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256412360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I like the idea of a voluntary standard, but going with micro USB is the wrong direction.  Use a standard USB *port* on the charger.  No cable, no weird stuff.  Everyone already has a standard USB to whatever-your-device-uses cable.  Go with that.  Standard USB is now universal.  The other advantage with that is USB ports are everywhere and you can charge your device without buying a charger at all.  Now that's a better standard.  If you must buy a charger, a perfect example of the right device is the Apple USB charger that you can get for every iDevice they make.  It has internation input voltage support (100-240v) with clip-on plug adapters (so you can plug it in to your type of outlet) and the output is a standard USB port.  Bingo.  In fact this existing adapter will work with tons of existing devices of all brands by using your standard USB to whatever cable that you already have.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I like the idea of a voluntary standard , but going with micro USB is the wrong direction .
Use a standard USB * port * on the charger .
No cable , no weird stuff .
Everyone already has a standard USB to whatever-your-device-uses cable .
Go with that .
Standard USB is now universal .
The other advantage with that is USB ports are everywhere and you can charge your device without buying a charger at all .
Now that 's a better standard .
If you must buy a charger , a perfect example of the right device is the Apple USB charger that you can get for every iDevice they make .
It has internation input voltage support ( 100-240v ) with clip-on plug adapters ( so you can plug it in to your type of outlet ) and the output is a standard USB port .
Bingo. In fact this existing adapter will work with tons of existing devices of all brands by using your standard USB to whatever cable that you already have .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like the idea of a voluntary standard, but going with micro USB is the wrong direction.
Use a standard USB *port* on the charger.
No cable, no weird stuff.
Everyone already has a standard USB to whatever-your-device-uses cable.
Go with that.
Standard USB is now universal.
The other advantage with that is USB ports are everywhere and you can charge your device without buying a charger at all.
Now that's a better standard.
If you must buy a charger, a perfect example of the right device is the Apple USB charger that you can get for every iDevice they make.
It has internation input voltage support (100-240v) with clip-on plug adapters (so you can plug it in to your type of outlet) and the output is a standard USB port.
Bingo.  In fact this existing adapter will work with tons of existing devices of all brands by using your standard USB to whatever cable that you already have.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29858119</id>
	<title>Water resistant.</title>
	<author>TechwoIf</author>
	<datestamp>1256410860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is this new standard water resistant? It has to be if it ever gets to military devices. I always though the Apple MAC power connector could easy be water resistant just by sealing the edges around where the connector meets the body during assembly. Just think, expanding that could have a universal connector for mobile devices that can survive a dunk in the pool or toilet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is this new standard water resistant ?
It has to be if it ever gets to military devices .
I always though the Apple MAC power connector could easy be water resistant just by sealing the edges around where the connector meets the body during assembly .
Just think , expanding that could have a universal connector for mobile devices that can survive a dunk in the pool or toilet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is this new standard water resistant?
It has to be if it ever gets to military devices.
I always though the Apple MAC power connector could easy be water resistant just by sealing the edges around where the connector meets the body during assembly.
Just think, expanding that could have a universal connector for mobile devices that can survive a dunk in the pool or toilet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29855941</id>
	<title>Re:Huh?</title>
	<author>he-sk</author>
	<datestamp>1256392860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So your last three phones weren't Sony Ericcson models, I gather.</p><p>Good for vou!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So your last three phones were n't Sony Ericcson models , I gather.Good for vou !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So your last three phones weren't Sony Ericcson models, I gather.Good for vou!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29860751</id>
	<title>Great start...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256387640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now can we please have carrier connect standards so i can move from one carrier to another without having to get new hardware 1/2 the time?</p><p>I don't have that problem with my land line and can choose any model i want, so why should i have it with my cellular 'line' ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now can we please have carrier connect standards so i can move from one carrier to another without having to get new hardware 1/2 the time ? I do n't have that problem with my land line and can choose any model i want , so why should i have it with my cellular 'line ' ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now can we please have carrier connect standards so i can move from one carrier to another without having to get new hardware 1/2 the time?I don't have that problem with my land line and can choose any model i want, so why should i have it with my cellular 'line' ?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29856345</id>
	<title>Re:ITU, the folk who should run the WWW.</title>
	<author>ivan\_w</author>
	<datestamp>1256396400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cough cough !!!</p><p>Since when does ICANN run the WWW ? (and what the heck is "The WWW" ? - No The internet is not *only* about HTML transiting over HTTP thank you..)</p><p>But this put aside, I don't think it is the role of the ITU to govern over anything like HTTP, HTML, the Domain Name System (which is only governed by ICANN up to the point where you pick their root servers as a hint).</p><p>ITU is about telecommunication. It describes how information gets from point A to point B - and NOT the actual payload.. For example, the ITU does lay out the groundwork so that someone in some part of the world can make a call to someone else in another part of the world, but they do NOT specify what language you then use on the phone, what a standard greeting message is and the protocol used when talking with one another over the phone line.. Same for the IPU.. They ensure postal service is carried within their jurisdiction (which is something like 95\% countries) - but certainly does not state how you should write a letter !</p><p>--Ivan</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cough cough ! !
! Since when does ICANN run the WWW ?
( and what the heck is " The WWW " ?
- No The internet is not * only * about HTML transiting over HTTP thank you.. ) But this put aside , I do n't think it is the role of the ITU to govern over anything like HTTP , HTML , the Domain Name System ( which is only governed by ICANN up to the point where you pick their root servers as a hint ) .ITU is about telecommunication .
It describes how information gets from point A to point B - and NOT the actual payload.. For example , the ITU does lay out the groundwork so that someone in some part of the world can make a call to someone else in another part of the world , but they do NOT specify what language you then use on the phone , what a standard greeting message is and the protocol used when talking with one another over the phone line.. Same for the IPU.. They ensure postal service is carried within their jurisdiction ( which is something like 95 \ % countries ) - but certainly does not state how you should write a letter ! --Ivan</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cough cough !!
!Since when does ICANN run the WWW ?
(and what the heck is "The WWW" ?
- No The internet is not *only* about HTML transiting over HTTP thank you..)But this put aside, I don't think it is the role of the ITU to govern over anything like HTTP, HTML, the Domain Name System (which is only governed by ICANN up to the point where you pick their root servers as a hint).ITU is about telecommunication.
It describes how information gets from point A to point B - and NOT the actual payload.. For example, the ITU does lay out the groundwork so that someone in some part of the world can make a call to someone else in another part of the world, but they do NOT specify what language you then use on the phone, what a standard greeting message is and the protocol used when talking with one another over the phone line.. Same for the IPU.. They ensure postal service is carried within their jurisdiction (which is something like 95\% countries) - but certainly does not state how you should write a letter !--Ivan</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29855939</id>
	<title>Re:Great!</title>
	<author>commodore64\_love</author>
	<datestamp>1256392860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or... you could just carry a USB-to-microUSB adapter cable, and plug it into the laptop you brought with you, or your American friends' PCs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or... you could just carry a USB-to-microUSB adapter cable , and plug it into the laptop you brought with you , or your American friends ' PCs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or... you could just carry a USB-to-microUSB adapter cable, and plug it into the laptop you brought with you, or your American friends' PCs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29857155</id>
	<title>Re:ITU, the folk who should run the WWW.</title>
	<author>XPulga</author>
	<datestamp>1256403660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><br>Hell, no! ITU has a known history of<br><br>a) writing unreadable standards (such as G.711, the a-law, mu-law telephony codec)<br><br>b) retarded protocols (H.323, where messages are formatted according to an hierarchy defined in 3+ different standards, and call initiation sequences have so many alternatives that it is common to have two certified H.323 endpoints refuse to talk to each other. Implementing H.323 involves thousands of lines of code. While SIP (a non-ITU protocol) uses text headers similar to email and http, can be understood from a single RFC and can be correctly implemented in a few hundred lines.)<br><br>c) favoring patented cash troll codecs such as G.729 instead of similar patent-free ones. (Meanwhile, a lot of international phone traffic is performed in roughly-uncompressed G.711, using 10x the bandwidth because the licensing fees of G.729 are outrageous)<br><br>That's ITU for you, and these people should be forbidden from publishing any standard whatsoever.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hell , no !
ITU has a known history ofa ) writing unreadable standards ( such as G.711 , the a-law , mu-law telephony codec ) b ) retarded protocols ( H.323 , where messages are formatted according to an hierarchy defined in 3 + different standards , and call initiation sequences have so many alternatives that it is common to have two certified H.323 endpoints refuse to talk to each other .
Implementing H.323 involves thousands of lines of code .
While SIP ( a non-ITU protocol ) uses text headers similar to email and http , can be understood from a single RFC and can be correctly implemented in a few hundred lines .
) c ) favoring patented cash troll codecs such as G.729 instead of similar patent-free ones .
( Meanwhile , a lot of international phone traffic is performed in roughly-uncompressed G.711 , using 10x the bandwidth because the licensing fees of G.729 are outrageous ) That 's ITU for you , and these people should be forbidden from publishing any standard whatsoever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hell, no!
ITU has a known history ofa) writing unreadable standards (such as G.711, the a-law, mu-law telephony codec)b) retarded protocols (H.323, where messages are formatted according to an hierarchy defined in 3+ different standards, and call initiation sequences have so many alternatives that it is common to have two certified H.323 endpoints refuse to talk to each other.
Implementing H.323 involves thousands of lines of code.
While SIP (a non-ITU protocol) uses text headers similar to email and http, can be understood from a single RFC and can be correctly implemented in a few hundred lines.
)c) favoring patented cash troll codecs such as G.729 instead of similar patent-free ones.
(Meanwhile, a lot of international phone traffic is performed in roughly-uncompressed G.711, using 10x the bandwidth because the licensing fees of G.729 are outrageous)That's ITU for you, and these people should be forbidden from publishing any standard whatsoever.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29858803</id>
	<title>Just sayin....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256415720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Should we call it UUSB now then?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Should we call it UUSB now then ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Should we call it UUSB now then?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29857109</id>
	<title>Why stop at cell phones?</title>
	<author>Vexorian</author>
	<datestamp>1256403240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I hope and kind of know that they will use this for non-cellphones like mp3 players and other gadgets. It is seriously stupid the amount of chargers that exist at home...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope and kind of know that they will use this for non-cellphones like mp3 players and other gadgets .
It is seriously stupid the amount of chargers that exist at home.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope and kind of know that they will use this for non-cellphones like mp3 players and other gadgets.
It is seriously stupid the amount of chargers that exist at home...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29858617</id>
	<title>Re:Huh?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256414160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If Douglas Adams finds a laptop who requires the same energy to use than a external drive, and a powered speaker, and a palmtop, and a cassette recorder, I think he should post a review in Slashdot.</p><p>Or maybe in a theoretical physics journal, I'm not sure.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Douglas Adams finds a laptop who requires the same energy to use than a external drive , and a powered speaker , and a palmtop , and a cassette recorder , I think he should post a review in Slashdot.Or maybe in a theoretical physics journal , I 'm not sure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Douglas Adams finds a laptop who requires the same energy to use than a external drive, and a powered speaker, and a palmtop, and a cassette recorder, I think he should post a review in Slashdot.Or maybe in a theoretical physics journal, I'm not sure.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29855813</id>
	<title>I wish they had an international charger for all</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256391480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>voltages.  You know, without lugging various plugs along and all that.</p><p>The closest to this is the humble car charger, but as far as I can tell, sadly airports and hotels I've been at don't have 12v sockets handy (maybe I didn't look hard enough and be wrong).  There isn't always access to a car and in a lot of places, you don't exactly want to leave expensive electronics in one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>voltages .
You know , without lugging various plugs along and all that.The closest to this is the humble car charger , but as far as I can tell , sadly airports and hotels I 've been at do n't have 12v sockets handy ( maybe I did n't look hard enough and be wrong ) .
There is n't always access to a car and in a lot of places , you do n't exactly want to leave expensive electronics in one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>voltages.
You know, without lugging various plugs along and all that.The closest to this is the humble car charger, but as far as I can tell, sadly airports and hotels I've been at don't have 12v sockets handy (maybe I didn't look hard enough and be wrong).
There isn't always access to a car and in a lot of places, you don't exactly want to leave expensive electronics in one.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29855953</id>
	<title>Re:Finally</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256393040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple have already signed an agreement and stated they will be using a standard micro-usb socket on the iPhones in the future. I believe Apple will introduce this socket in 2010.</p><p>Source: <a href="http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE55S1XZ20090629" title="reuters.com">http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE55S1XZ20090629</a> [reuters.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple have already signed an agreement and stated they will be using a standard micro-usb socket on the iPhones in the future .
I believe Apple will introduce this socket in 2010.Source : http : //uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE55S1XZ20090629 [ reuters.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple have already signed an agreement and stated they will be using a standard micro-usb socket on the iPhones in the future.
I believe Apple will introduce this socket in 2010.Source: http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE55S1XZ20090629 [reuters.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29855717</id>
	<title>I hope Apple adopts this</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256390520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Although it is funny to watch all the iPhone users I work with scrabble about sharing one cable at work between them whilst we drown in a sea of standard USB cabling!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Although it is funny to watch all the iPhone users I work with scrabble about sharing one cable at work between them whilst we drown in a sea of standard USB cabling !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Although it is funny to watch all the iPhone users I work with scrabble about sharing one cable at work between them whilst we drown in a sea of standard USB cabling!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29855743</id>
	<title>similar to?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256390700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>The charger has a micro-USB port at the connecting end, using technology similar to what is commonly used with digital cameras.</i> <br>
<br>
Well, cameras tend to use mini-USB, so it's "similar to" insofar as they're both USB variants. In which case they may as well have said that it's "similar to" just about anything that hooks up to a computer via any form of USB. Also interesting that they've gone with micro-USB, as I've never seen a micro port on anything except for a tiny flash drive I have. The plug is almost <i>too small</i>, quite honestly.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The charger has a micro-USB port at the connecting end , using technology similar to what is commonly used with digital cameras .
Well , cameras tend to use mini-USB , so it 's " similar to " insofar as they 're both USB variants .
In which case they may as well have said that it 's " similar to " just about anything that hooks up to a computer via any form of USB .
Also interesting that they 've gone with micro-USB , as I 've never seen a micro port on anything except for a tiny flash drive I have .
The plug is almost too small , quite honestly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The charger has a micro-USB port at the connecting end, using technology similar to what is commonly used with digital cameras.
Well, cameras tend to use mini-USB, so it's "similar to" insofar as they're both USB variants.
In which case they may as well have said that it's "similar to" just about anything that hooks up to a computer via any form of USB.
Also interesting that they've gone with micro-USB, as I've never seen a micro port on anything except for a tiny flash drive I have.
The plug is almost too small, quite honestly.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29856543</id>
	<title>Universal?</title>
	<author>bhebing</author>
	<datestamp>1256398320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Surely they mean terrestrial, not universal. Or are we really hoping that the Xymoleians from Sirius B will adapt to this standard?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Surely they mean terrestrial , not universal .
Or are we really hoping that the Xymoleians from Sirius B will adapt to this standard ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Surely they mean terrestrial, not universal.
Or are we really hoping that the Xymoleians from Sirius B will adapt to this standard?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29855829</id>
	<title>Finally</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256391720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's good to have a standard, pity it's 10 years late. Also, why the hell is this not mandatory?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's good to have a standard , pity it 's 10 years late .
Also , why the hell is this not mandatory ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's good to have a standard, pity it's 10 years late.
Also, why the hell is this not mandatory?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29856217</id>
	<title>Re:Huh? I mean...HUH?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256395500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thank gawd the UN is on top of the really important issues affecting humankind.</p><p>I was worried they'd be effin' around with stuff like climate change, human rights and nuclear proliferation.</p><p>I can sleep peacefully in the knowledge that the world is in capable hands.</p><p>Now I hope they do something about those flimsy little plastic caps on the milk jugs that are always falling into the garbage disposal.   And the floor mat on the passenger side of my BMW M5 that always gets knocked askew when someone gets in or out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thank gawd the UN is on top of the really important issues affecting humankind.I was worried they 'd be effin ' around with stuff like climate change , human rights and nuclear proliferation.I can sleep peacefully in the knowledge that the world is in capable hands.Now I hope they do something about those flimsy little plastic caps on the milk jugs that are always falling into the garbage disposal .
And the floor mat on the passenger side of my BMW M5 that always gets knocked askew when someone gets in or out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thank gawd the UN is on top of the really important issues affecting humankind.I was worried they'd be effin' around with stuff like climate change, human rights and nuclear proliferation.I can sleep peacefully in the knowledge that the world is in capable hands.Now I hope they do something about those flimsy little plastic caps on the milk jugs that are always falling into the garbage disposal.
And the floor mat on the passenger side of my BMW M5 that always gets knocked askew when someone gets in or out.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29855707</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29856565</id>
	<title>Re:I hope Apple adopts this</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256398620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What many forget is that the dock connector was not originally a USB solution, it was a firewire connector.  This was because USB was so slow.  My first player was a USB device and I hardly ever changed the music because it took forever to load.
<p>
Of course Apple has left the firewire world, so there is no reason to keep the fancy connector except for backward compatibility and to earn licensing fees.  I assume that the later will motivate them to maintain the standard, at least for while longer.  I do suspect they will supply a dock connector to micro USB connector.
</p><p>
On another note, phones has had USB type adapters since at least 2003. Not all of these would charge without the proprietary adaptor, so although the presence of the connector is nothing new, the ability to charge from any device is a welcome develoment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What many forget is that the dock connector was not originally a USB solution , it was a firewire connector .
This was because USB was so slow .
My first player was a USB device and I hardly ever changed the music because it took forever to load .
Of course Apple has left the firewire world , so there is no reason to keep the fancy connector except for backward compatibility and to earn licensing fees .
I assume that the later will motivate them to maintain the standard , at least for while longer .
I do suspect they will supply a dock connector to micro USB connector .
On another note , phones has had USB type adapters since at least 2003 .
Not all of these would charge without the proprietary adaptor , so although the presence of the connector is nothing new , the ability to charge from any device is a welcome develoment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What many forget is that the dock connector was not originally a USB solution, it was a firewire connector.
This was because USB was so slow.
My first player was a USB device and I hardly ever changed the music because it took forever to load.
Of course Apple has left the firewire world, so there is no reason to keep the fancy connector except for backward compatibility and to earn licensing fees.
I assume that the later will motivate them to maintain the standard, at least for while longer.
I do suspect they will supply a dock connector to micro USB connector.
On another note, phones has had USB type adapters since at least 2003.
Not all of these would charge without the proprietary adaptor, so although the presence of the connector is nothing new, the ability to charge from any device is a welcome develoment.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29855717</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29857041</id>
	<title>Yippie</title>
	<author>drmitch</author>
	<datestamp>1256402700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That is so awesome. Too bad this is still 5 years out in the US. At least we have standardized the AC outlet side of it. We're half way there!</htmltext>
<tokenext>That is so awesome .
Too bad this is still 5 years out in the US .
At least we have standardized the AC outlet side of it .
We 're half way there !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is so awesome.
Too bad this is still 5 years out in the US.
At least we have standardized the AC outlet side of it.
We're half way there!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29857027</id>
	<title>If it is not compulsory for phone manufacturers to</title>
	<author>amn108</author>
	<datestamp>1256402580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If it is not compulsory for phone manufacturers to include it, what is the point of approving it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If it is not compulsory for phone manufacturers to include it , what is the point of approving it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it is not compulsory for phone manufacturers to include it, what is the point of approving it?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29856019</id>
	<title>Re:Micro-USB?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256393580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If your computer can only give 500 mA @ 5 V via USB does not mean that you cannot have external charger that can give more via electric socket.</p><p>Those phones come with charger that takes power from electric socket and it is attached to same USB port.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If your computer can only give 500 mA @ 5 V via USB does not mean that you can not have external charger that can give more via electric socket.Those phones come with charger that takes power from electric socket and it is attached to same USB port .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If your computer can only give 500 mA @ 5 V via USB does not mean that you cannot have external charger that can give more via electric socket.Those phones come with charger that takes power from electric socket and it is attached to same USB port.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29855869</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29857475</id>
	<title>why</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256406300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>is the UN even getting involved? is there imminent danger of war or conflict over this? no? then why.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>is the UN even getting involved ?
is there imminent danger of war or conflict over this ?
no ? then why .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>is the UN even getting involved?
is there imminent danger of war or conflict over this?
no? then why.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29861725</id>
	<title>am I missing something?</title>
	<author>Nyder</author>
	<datestamp>1256398920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm sorry, but I seem to be missing something here.</p><p>these work by magnets, as I understand.</p><p>While I'm not sure that that magnets are bad for electronics/flash type drives, they sure as hell can't be good for my ipod classic (120gb).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sorry , but I seem to be missing something here.these work by magnets , as I understand.While I 'm not sure that that magnets are bad for electronics/flash type drives , they sure as hell ca n't be good for my ipod classic ( 120gb ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sorry, but I seem to be missing something here.these work by magnets, as I understand.While I'm not sure that that magnets are bad for electronics/flash type drives, they sure as hell can't be good for my ipod classic (120gb).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29855739</id>
	<title>ITU, the folk who should run the WWW.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256390640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This folks is one of the two UN organisations (both older than the UN) who could run the WWW better than ICANN. The other being the Postal Union (UPU or IPU I think they changed their name).</p><p>So, there you go, the UN is not just the political shit. The ITU is what means that you can phone from point A to point B, they are the logical choice for control over the WWW and domain name system.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This folks is one of the two UN organisations ( both older than the UN ) who could run the WWW better than ICANN .
The other being the Postal Union ( UPU or IPU I think they changed their name ) .So , there you go , the UN is not just the political shit .
The ITU is what means that you can phone from point A to point B , they are the logical choice for control over the WWW and domain name system .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This folks is one of the two UN organisations (both older than the UN) who could run the WWW better than ICANN.
The other being the Postal Union (UPU or IPU I think they changed their name).So, there you go, the UN is not just the political shit.
The ITU is what means that you can phone from point A to point B, they are the logical choice for control over the WWW and domain name system.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29856201</id>
	<title>Re:Micro-USB?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256395380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is there a problem with using USB3 instead?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is there a problem with using USB3 instead ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is there a problem with using USB3 instead?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29879179</id>
	<title>Re:Huh?</title>
	<author>RockDoctor</author>
	<datestamp>1256561280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Whenever I get a new gadget, the first thing I do is always to write its name with a permanent pen on its power supply (usually black on black but it's still legible enough).</p></div></blockquote><p>Spoilsport !<br>Doing things like that takes all the fun out of it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Whenever I get a new gadget , the first thing I do is always to write its name with a permanent pen on its power supply ( usually black on black but it 's still legible enough ) .Spoilsport ! Doing things like that takes all the fun out of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whenever I get a new gadget, the first thing I do is always to write its name with a permanent pen on its power supply (usually black on black but it's still legible enough).Spoilsport !Doing things like that takes all the fun out of it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29864961</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29870469</id>
	<title>Thanks to the European Union</title>
	<author>Dr. Hok</author>
	<datestamp>1256554560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's pretty old news, actually. The European Union already <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/jun2009/gb20090630\_520516.htm" title="businessweek.com">convinced phone makers to agree on a standard charger</a> [businessweek.com] a few months ago.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's pretty old news , actually .
The European Union already convinced phone makers to agree on a standard charger [ businessweek.com ] a few months ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's pretty old news, actually.
The European Union already convinced phone makers to agree on a standard charger [businessweek.com] a few months ago.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29864961</id>
	<title>Re:Huh?</title>
	<author>Fred\_A</author>
	<datestamp>1256489820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The usual method of finding a little dongly thing that actually matches a gizmo I want to use is to go and buy another one, at a price that can physically drive the air from your body...</p></div><p>Whenever I get a new gadget, the first thing I do is always to write its name with a permanent pen on its power supply (usually black on black but it's still legible enough).<br>Failing that, I'm stuck with yet another "Celestial Happy Power Co (ROC)" gadget with no obvious clue as to what it's supposed to be paired with. I sometimes experimented which has on several occasions let the magical smoke out and finally decided on my current methodology which has proved to be effective so far.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The usual method of finding a little dongly thing that actually matches a gizmo I want to use is to go and buy another one , at a price that can physically drive the air from your body...Whenever I get a new gadget , the first thing I do is always to write its name with a permanent pen on its power supply ( usually black on black but it 's still legible enough ) .Failing that , I 'm stuck with yet another " Celestial Happy Power Co ( ROC ) " gadget with no obvious clue as to what it 's supposed to be paired with .
I sometimes experimented which has on several occasions let the magical smoke out and finally decided on my current methodology which has proved to be effective so far .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The usual method of finding a little dongly thing that actually matches a gizmo I want to use is to go and buy another one, at a price that can physically drive the air from your body...Whenever I get a new gadget, the first thing I do is always to write its name with a permanent pen on its power supply (usually black on black but it's still legible enough).Failing that, I'm stuck with yet another "Celestial Happy Power Co (ROC)" gadget with no obvious clue as to what it's supposed to be paired with.
I sometimes experimented which has on several occasions let the magical smoke out and finally decided on my current methodology which has proved to be effective so far.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29856013</id>
	<title>Re:I wish they had an international charger for al</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1256393580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The plugs are annoying, but you can literally get a set for under ten bucks. It's usually not that hard to plan ahead and carry the one or two you will need for the countries you're visiting. Practically all phone chargers run on 100-240V, anywhere fom 50-60 Hz (and probably then some!) and all you need is the plug.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The plugs are annoying , but you can literally get a set for under ten bucks .
It 's usually not that hard to plan ahead and carry the one or two you will need for the countries you 're visiting .
Practically all phone chargers run on 100-240V , anywhere fom 50-60 Hz ( and probably then some !
) and all you need is the plug .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The plugs are annoying, but you can literally get a set for under ten bucks.
It's usually not that hard to plan ahead and carry the one or two you will need for the countries you're visiting.
Practically all phone chargers run on 100-240V, anywhere fom 50-60 Hz (and probably then some!
) and all you need is the plug.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29855849</id>
	<title>Re:Huh?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256391900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now all we need is a universal standard of (in the words of Douglas Adams) 'little dongly things' for everything else:</p><p><a href="http://www.douglasadams.com/dna/980707-03-a.html" title="douglasadams.com">http://www.douglasadams.com/dna/980707-03-a.html</a> [douglasadams.com]</p><p>'The little dongly things I am concerned with (and they are by no means the only species of little dongly things with which the micro-electronics world is infested) are the external power adaptors which laptops and palmtops and external drives and cassette recorders and telephone answering machines and powered speakers and other incredibly necessary gizmos need to step down the mains AC supply from either 120 volts or 240 volts to 6 volts DC. Or 4.5 volts DC. Or 9 volts DC. Or 12 volts DC. At 500 milliamps. Or 300 milliamps. Or 1200 milliamps. They have positive tips and negative sleeves on their plugs, unless they are the type that has negative tips and positive sleeves. By the time you multiply all these different variables together you end up with a fairly major industry which exists, so far as I can tell, to fill my cupboards with little dongly things none of which I can ever positively identify without playing gizmo pelmanism. The usual method of finding a little dongly thing that actually matches a gizmo I want to use is to go and buy another one, at a price that can physically drive the air from your body...It's hard to imagine that some of the mightiest brains on the planet, fuelled by some of the finest pizza that money can buy, haven't at some point thought 'Wouldn't it be easier if we all just standardised on one type of DC power supply?'...I strongly suspect that if you stuck a hardware engineer in a locked room for a couple of days and taunted him with the smell of pepperoni, he'd probably be able to think of a way of making whatever gizmo (maybe even the new gizmo Pro, which I've heard such good things about) it is he's designing, work to a standard DC low-power supply.'</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now all we need is a universal standard of ( in the words of Douglas Adams ) 'little dongly things ' for everything else : http : //www.douglasadams.com/dna/980707-03-a.html [ douglasadams.com ] 'The little dongly things I am concerned with ( and they are by no means the only species of little dongly things with which the micro-electronics world is infested ) are the external power adaptors which laptops and palmtops and external drives and cassette recorders and telephone answering machines and powered speakers and other incredibly necessary gizmos need to step down the mains AC supply from either 120 volts or 240 volts to 6 volts DC .
Or 4.5 volts DC .
Or 9 volts DC .
Or 12 volts DC .
At 500 milliamps .
Or 300 milliamps .
Or 1200 milliamps .
They have positive tips and negative sleeves on their plugs , unless they are the type that has negative tips and positive sleeves .
By the time you multiply all these different variables together you end up with a fairly major industry which exists , so far as I can tell , to fill my cupboards with little dongly things none of which I can ever positively identify without playing gizmo pelmanism .
The usual method of finding a little dongly thing that actually matches a gizmo I want to use is to go and buy another one , at a price that can physically drive the air from your body...It 's hard to imagine that some of the mightiest brains on the planet , fuelled by some of the finest pizza that money can buy , have n't at some point thought 'Would n't it be easier if we all just standardised on one type of DC power supply ?
'...I strongly suspect that if you stuck a hardware engineer in a locked room for a couple of days and taunted him with the smell of pepperoni , he 'd probably be able to think of a way of making whatever gizmo ( maybe even the new gizmo Pro , which I 've heard such good things about ) it is he 's designing , work to a standard DC low-power supply .
'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now all we need is a universal standard of (in the words of Douglas Adams) 'little dongly things' for everything else:http://www.douglasadams.com/dna/980707-03-a.html [douglasadams.com]'The little dongly things I am concerned with (and they are by no means the only species of little dongly things with which the micro-electronics world is infested) are the external power adaptors which laptops and palmtops and external drives and cassette recorders and telephone answering machines and powered speakers and other incredibly necessary gizmos need to step down the mains AC supply from either 120 volts or 240 volts to 6 volts DC.
Or 4.5 volts DC.
Or 9 volts DC.
Or 12 volts DC.
At 500 milliamps.
Or 300 milliamps.
Or 1200 milliamps.
They have positive tips and negative sleeves on their plugs, unless they are the type that has negative tips and positive sleeves.
By the time you multiply all these different variables together you end up with a fairly major industry which exists, so far as I can tell, to fill my cupboards with little dongly things none of which I can ever positively identify without playing gizmo pelmanism.
The usual method of finding a little dongly thing that actually matches a gizmo I want to use is to go and buy another one, at a price that can physically drive the air from your body...It's hard to imagine that some of the mightiest brains on the planet, fuelled by some of the finest pizza that money can buy, haven't at some point thought 'Wouldn't it be easier if we all just standardised on one type of DC power supply?
'...I strongly suspect that if you stuck a hardware engineer in a locked room for a couple of days and taunted him with the smell of pepperoni, he'd probably be able to think of a way of making whatever gizmo (maybe even the new gizmo Pro, which I've heard such good things about) it is he's designing, work to a standard DC low-power supply.
'</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29855725</id>
	<title>The UN?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256390580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh no. The UN are trying to organise something? Terrific.</p><p>Europe will try and shaft American companies, the Arabs will refuse to play ball and the other minor dictatorships, religious theocracies and tinpot corrupt little villages which comprise the UN will sell their vote to the highest bidder.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh no .
The UN are trying to organise something ?
Terrific.Europe will try and shaft American companies , the Arabs will refuse to play ball and the other minor dictatorships , religious theocracies and tinpot corrupt little villages which comprise the UN will sell their vote to the highest bidder .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh no.
The UN are trying to organise something?
Terrific.Europe will try and shaft American companies, the Arabs will refuse to play ball and the other minor dictatorships, religious theocracies and tinpot corrupt little villages which comprise the UN will sell their vote to the highest bidder.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29870381</id>
	<title>Re:ITU, the folk who should run the WWW.</title>
	<author>TheMysteriousFuture</author>
	<datestamp>1256553600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.<br>SIP. Understood from a single RFC? A few hundred lines of code? HAHAHAHAHAH BWAHAHAHAHAHA. Are we talking about the same SIP here?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.SIP .
Understood from a single RFC ?
A few hundred lines of code ?
HAHAHAHAHAH BWAHAHAHAHAHA .
Are we talking about the same SIP here ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.SIP.
Understood from a single RFC?
A few hundred lines of code?
HAHAHAHAHAH BWAHAHAHAHAHA.
Are we talking about the same SIP here?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29857001</id>
	<title>So this means the story should be tagged</title>
	<author>unixan</author>
	<datestamp>1256402400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>as: suddenoutbreakofcommonsense</htmltext>
<tokenext>as : suddenoutbreakofcommonsense</tokentext>
<sentencetext>as: suddenoutbreakofcommonsense</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_033257.29869087</id>
	<title>Re:I hope Apple adopts this</title>
	<author>Macgrrl</author>
	<datestamp>1256492340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I recently purchased a USB charger which came with 2 cables. 1st cable was an iPod/iPhone cable and the 2nd cable was a micro-USB cable. There are 2 USB ports on the wall-wart component. Simple.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I recently purchased a USB charger which came with 2 cables .
1st cable was an iPod/iPhone cable and the 2nd cable was a micro-USB cable .
There are 2 USB ports on the wall-wart component .
Simple .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I recently purchased a USB charger which came with 2 cables.
1st cable was an iPod/iPhone cable and the 2nd cable was a micro-USB cable.
There are 2 USB ports on the wall-wart component.
Simple.</sentencetext>
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