<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_23_1715235</id>
	<title>Peering Disputes Migrate To IPv6</title>
	<author>ScuttleMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1256290020000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>1sockchuck writes <i>"As more networks prepare for the transition to IPv6, we're seeing the <a href="http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/10/22/peering-disputes-migrate-to-ipv6/">first peering disputes</a> (sometimes known as 'Internet partitions') involving IPv6 connectivity. The dispute involves Cogent, which has previously been involved in high-profile IPv4 peering spats with <a href="http://tech.slashdot.org/story/08/11/03/0143239/Behind-the-Cogent-Sprint-Depeering?art\_pos=2">Sprint</a>, <a href="//ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/05/2247207&amp;tid=94">Level 3</a> and <a href="//tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/03/19/1912211&amp;tid=94">Telia</a>. Hurricane Electric, which has been  an early adopter on IPv6, says Cogent won't <a href="http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/msg01006.html">peer with it</a> over IPv6. Hurricane has extended an olive branch by baking a cake bearing a message of outreach for Cogent."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>1sockchuck writes " As more networks prepare for the transition to IPv6 , we 're seeing the first peering disputes ( sometimes known as 'Internet partitions ' ) involving IPv6 connectivity .
The dispute involves Cogent , which has previously been involved in high-profile IPv4 peering spats with Sprint , Level 3 and Telia .
Hurricane Electric , which has been an early adopter on IPv6 , says Cogent wo n't peer with it over IPv6 .
Hurricane has extended an olive branch by baking a cake bearing a message of outreach for Cogent .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1sockchuck writes "As more networks prepare for the transition to IPv6, we're seeing the first peering disputes (sometimes known as 'Internet partitions') involving IPv6 connectivity.
The dispute involves Cogent, which has previously been involved in high-profile IPv4 peering spats with Sprint, Level 3 and Telia.
Hurricane Electric, which has been  an early adopter on IPv6, says Cogent won't peer with it over IPv6.
Hurricane has extended an olive branch by baking a cake bearing a message of outreach for Cogent.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29852651</id>
	<title>Seen before with Cogent/Sprint</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256298660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The following is copied from a previous Cogent/Spint debacle posting:</p><p>Just like what happened with Level(3) a few years ago.</p><p>Cogent's history in the ISP market has been absolutely horrible. They came in to town as the Walmart of ISPs, investing in a huge new super-efficient backbone infrastructure doing everything it could to cut costs so they could offer insane deals to their customers. They were running 10Gigabit connections using existing fiber and brand new equipment. They had no 'legacy' hardware.</p><p>The hosting industry bit into the Cogent game when they had customers running multimedia sites that needed tons of bandwidth (see: porn) and were tired of paying insane rates per mbps when Cogent had this brand new network with tons of capacity.</p><p>But Cogent wasn't in the 'settlement free interconnect' game yet, they were paying for bandwidth themselves. So they went out and purchased a few ISPs that already had settlement free interconnects. The agreements are already in place, so it was a big win situation for them. But these agreements almost always come with the term that you must give as much as you receive (so you need to have a balance between hosted sites and end users.) Cogent didn't have end users, they had servers.</p><p>Think of it this way: I am an apartment complex and I have an agreement to mow my neighbor's lawn and in exchange he shovels my sidewalk. It uses approximately the same amount of work. Now imagine my neighbor and all of his agreements are bought by the local golf course. Now the golf course now expects me to mow the entire course because the agreement was that they would shovel and I would mow. Cogent was the golf course, I am an ISP.</p><p>Now in my apartment I house a bunch of golfers once I say "screw this, figure out your lawn situation yourself" the course says "ok, well, I guess your tenants are going to have to go without golf." What the hell am I to do now? Mow this golf course to keep my tenants happy?</p><p>Finally I come to an agreement, the golf course has to pay me a small amount and I will mow their grass. Everything seems OK, but then the golf course gets in to a bit of trouble and all of a sudden decides "OK, well... he doesn't want his tenants to go without golf so he will probably keep mowing our grass even if we stop paying him." Here we are again, I'm in an impossible situation because I really care about my tenants but man, I just cannot mow an entire golf course all by myself. So I send the golf course warnings after warnings, and after I reach a tipping point I just say "GFY, I'm not mowing your course anymore." I stop mowing it, and the golf course says "IT IS TOTALLY HIS FAULT THAT YOU CANNOT PLAY GOLF!!!"</p><p>Right now a lot of ISPs can hit Cogent's old pricing (and Cogent just cannot go any lower than they already are) so a lot if ISPs will just pass on Cogent and go for someone with a better record.</p><p>There is a lot more to the story that we don't know about, and since these agreements are generally done under a NDA we will never know for sure what exactly is happening at Cogent.</p><p>Just a FYI: I work for a hosting company that has had some dealings with Cogent in the past.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The following is copied from a previous Cogent/Spint debacle posting : Just like what happened with Level ( 3 ) a few years ago.Cogent 's history in the ISP market has been absolutely horrible .
They came in to town as the Walmart of ISPs , investing in a huge new super-efficient backbone infrastructure doing everything it could to cut costs so they could offer insane deals to their customers .
They were running 10Gigabit connections using existing fiber and brand new equipment .
They had no 'legacy ' hardware.The hosting industry bit into the Cogent game when they had customers running multimedia sites that needed tons of bandwidth ( see : porn ) and were tired of paying insane rates per mbps when Cogent had this brand new network with tons of capacity.But Cogent was n't in the 'settlement free interconnect ' game yet , they were paying for bandwidth themselves .
So they went out and purchased a few ISPs that already had settlement free interconnects .
The agreements are already in place , so it was a big win situation for them .
But these agreements almost always come with the term that you must give as much as you receive ( so you need to have a balance between hosted sites and end users .
) Cogent did n't have end users , they had servers.Think of it this way : I am an apartment complex and I have an agreement to mow my neighbor 's lawn and in exchange he shovels my sidewalk .
It uses approximately the same amount of work .
Now imagine my neighbor and all of his agreements are bought by the local golf course .
Now the golf course now expects me to mow the entire course because the agreement was that they would shovel and I would mow .
Cogent was the golf course , I am an ISP.Now in my apartment I house a bunch of golfers once I say " screw this , figure out your lawn situation yourself " the course says " ok , well , I guess your tenants are going to have to go without golf .
" What the hell am I to do now ?
Mow this golf course to keep my tenants happy ? Finally I come to an agreement , the golf course has to pay me a small amount and I will mow their grass .
Everything seems OK , but then the golf course gets in to a bit of trouble and all of a sudden decides " OK , well... he does n't want his tenants to go without golf so he will probably keep mowing our grass even if we stop paying him .
" Here we are again , I 'm in an impossible situation because I really care about my tenants but man , I just can not mow an entire golf course all by myself .
So I send the golf course warnings after warnings , and after I reach a tipping point I just say " GFY , I 'm not mowing your course anymore .
" I stop mowing it , and the golf course says " IT IS TOTALLY HIS FAULT THAT YOU CAN NOT PLAY GOLF ! ! !
" Right now a lot of ISPs can hit Cogent 's old pricing ( and Cogent just can not go any lower than they already are ) so a lot if ISPs will just pass on Cogent and go for someone with a better record.There is a lot more to the story that we do n't know about , and since these agreements are generally done under a NDA we will never know for sure what exactly is happening at Cogent.Just a FYI : I work for a hosting company that has had some dealings with Cogent in the past .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The following is copied from a previous Cogent/Spint debacle posting:Just like what happened with Level(3) a few years ago.Cogent's history in the ISP market has been absolutely horrible.
They came in to town as the Walmart of ISPs, investing in a huge new super-efficient backbone infrastructure doing everything it could to cut costs so they could offer insane deals to their customers.
They were running 10Gigabit connections using existing fiber and brand new equipment.
They had no 'legacy' hardware.The hosting industry bit into the Cogent game when they had customers running multimedia sites that needed tons of bandwidth (see: porn) and were tired of paying insane rates per mbps when Cogent had this brand new network with tons of capacity.But Cogent wasn't in the 'settlement free interconnect' game yet, they were paying for bandwidth themselves.
So they went out and purchased a few ISPs that already had settlement free interconnects.
The agreements are already in place, so it was a big win situation for them.
But these agreements almost always come with the term that you must give as much as you receive (so you need to have a balance between hosted sites and end users.
) Cogent didn't have end users, they had servers.Think of it this way: I am an apartment complex and I have an agreement to mow my neighbor's lawn and in exchange he shovels my sidewalk.
It uses approximately the same amount of work.
Now imagine my neighbor and all of his agreements are bought by the local golf course.
Now the golf course now expects me to mow the entire course because the agreement was that they would shovel and I would mow.
Cogent was the golf course, I am an ISP.Now in my apartment I house a bunch of golfers once I say "screw this, figure out your lawn situation yourself" the course says "ok, well, I guess your tenants are going to have to go without golf.
" What the hell am I to do now?
Mow this golf course to keep my tenants happy?Finally I come to an agreement, the golf course has to pay me a small amount and I will mow their grass.
Everything seems OK, but then the golf course gets in to a bit of trouble and all of a sudden decides "OK, well... he doesn't want his tenants to go without golf so he will probably keep mowing our grass even if we stop paying him.
" Here we are again, I'm in an impossible situation because I really care about my tenants but man, I just cannot mow an entire golf course all by myself.
So I send the golf course warnings after warnings, and after I reach a tipping point I just say "GFY, I'm not mowing your course anymore.
" I stop mowing it, and the golf course says "IT IS TOTALLY HIS FAULT THAT YOU CANNOT PLAY GOLF!!!
"Right now a lot of ISPs can hit Cogent's old pricing (and Cogent just cannot go any lower than they already are) so a lot if ISPs will just pass on Cogent and go for someone with a better record.There is a lot more to the story that we don't know about, and since these agreements are generally done under a NDA we will never know for sure what exactly is happening at Cogent.Just a FYI: I work for a hosting company that has had some dealings with Cogent in the past.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29851989</id>
	<title>ob.</title>
	<author>shentino</author>
	<datestamp>1256294040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>THE CAKE IS A LIE!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>THE CAKE IS A LIE !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>THE CAKE IS A LIE!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29851965</id>
	<title>GOP - Ghastly Old Party-poopers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256293920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Never vote Republican again.</p><p>They ruined the country and now they are trying to stop us from fixing it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Never vote Republican again.They ruined the country and now they are trying to stop us from fixing it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Never vote Republican again.They ruined the country and now they are trying to stop us from fixing it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29852611</id>
	<title>Re:Uh huh</title>
	<author>TheSHAD0W</author>
	<datestamp>1256298480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's so delicious and moist!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's so delicious and moist !
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's so delicious and moist!
:-)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29851921</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29853261</id>
	<title>Re:Could someone elaborate?</title>
	<author>Lennie</author>
	<datestamp>1256305020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Try this article and other posts on the same blog:<br><br>http://www.renesys.com/blog/2005/12/peering\_the\_fundamental\_archit.shtml</htmltext>
<tokenext>Try this article and other posts on the same blog : http : //www.renesys.com/blog/2005/12/peering \ _the \ _fundamental \ _archit.shtml</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Try this article and other posts on the same blog:http://www.renesys.com/blog/2005/12/peering\_the\_fundamental\_archit.shtml</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29852613</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29851921</id>
	<title>Uh huh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256293740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think we all know about the cake...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think we all know about the cake.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think we all know about the cake...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29854191</id>
	<title>Re:The Cake is...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256318100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Try the first reply in the mailing-thread link for the flickr...<br>http://www.flickr.com/photos/77519640@N00/4031434206/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Try the first reply in the mailing-thread link for the flickr...http : //www.flickr.com/photos/77519640 @ N00/4031434206/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Try the first reply in the mailing-thread link for the flickr...http://www.flickr.com/photos/77519640@N00/4031434206/</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29851993</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29851961</id>
	<title>analogy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256293920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's kind of technical, so I'm most of slashdot doesn't understand.  To put it in terms you would understand:
<p>
You're a gay dude.  You like to top and you like to bottom.  You hook up with another dude, but he doesn't want to bottom, he only wants to top.  As much as you love dick in your ass, you want to fuck his ass too.
</p><p>
Hope that helps.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's kind of technical , so I 'm most of slashdot does n't understand .
To put it in terms you would understand : You 're a gay dude .
You like to top and you like to bottom .
You hook up with another dude , but he does n't want to bottom , he only wants to top .
As much as you love dick in your ass , you want to fuck his ass too .
Hope that helps .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's kind of technical, so I'm most of slashdot doesn't understand.
To put it in terms you would understand:

You're a gay dude.
You like to top and you like to bottom.
You hook up with another dude, but he doesn't want to bottom, he only wants to top.
As much as you love dick in your ass, you want to fuck his ass too.
Hope that helps.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29852359</id>
	<title>Re:ob.</title>
	<author>Matheus</author>
	<datestamp>1256296620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Too bad the cake also has a typo... too bad they don't make a spell checker that supports the ICING standard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Too bad the cake also has a typo... too bad they do n't make a spell checker that supports the ICING standard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Too bad the cake also has a typo... too bad they don't make a spell checker that supports the ICING standard.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29851989</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29853027</id>
	<title>The cake is not a lie!</title>
	<author>SimGuy</author>
	<datestamp>1256302620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The cake was presented during a Peering BoF at the NANOG meeting in Dearborn, MI this week, in reference to a joke on the NANOG mailing list that they had tried everything with Cogent short of baking them a cake.</p><p>I was there, and the cake was tasty.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The cake was presented during a Peering BoF at the NANOG meeting in Dearborn , MI this week , in reference to a joke on the NANOG mailing list that they had tried everything with Cogent short of baking them a cake.I was there , and the cake was tasty .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The cake was presented during a Peering BoF at the NANOG meeting in Dearborn, MI this week, in reference to a joke on the NANOG mailing list that they had tried everything with Cogent short of baking them a cake.I was there, and the cake was tasty.
:)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29851959</id>
	<title>Baking a cake bearing a message of outreach</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256293920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hurricane was planning on giving Cogent a series of collector's DVDs, but they weren't sure what region Cogent was in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hurricane was planning on giving Cogent a series of collector 's DVDs , but they were n't sure what region Cogent was in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hurricane was planning on giving Cogent a series of collector's DVDs, but they weren't sure what region Cogent was in.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29852037</id>
	<title>Oh great, Cogent is at it again</title>
	<author>mikael\_j</author>
	<datestamp>1256294340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anyone feel like taking bets on how long it will take until the other Tier 1 ISPs gang up on Cogent and just shut off their peering to Cogent?</p><p>Seriously, every one of these conflicts that Cogent gets involved in seems to involve Cogent acting like a bunch of dicks and the only people defending them are their most loyal customers and their employees, why are they even still in business?</p><p>/Mikael</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone feel like taking bets on how long it will take until the other Tier 1 ISPs gang up on Cogent and just shut off their peering to Cogent ? Seriously , every one of these conflicts that Cogent gets involved in seems to involve Cogent acting like a bunch of dicks and the only people defending them are their most loyal customers and their employees , why are they even still in business ? /Mikael</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone feel like taking bets on how long it will take until the other Tier 1 ISPs gang up on Cogent and just shut off their peering to Cogent?Seriously, every one of these conflicts that Cogent gets involved in seems to involve Cogent acting like a bunch of dicks and the only people defending them are their most loyal customers and their employees, why are they even still in business?/Mikael</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29852613</id>
	<title>Could someone elaborate?</title>
	<author>spectre\_240sx</author>
	<datestamp>1256298480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For those of us who don't have experience with how the big ISPs connect to each other, could someone shed some light on the situation? Does peering involve a physical connection or is it just down to advertising routes? I thought having your routes advertised was a good thing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For those of us who do n't have experience with how the big ISPs connect to each other , could someone shed some light on the situation ?
Does peering involve a physical connection or is it just down to advertising routes ?
I thought having your routes advertised was a good thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For those of us who don't have experience with how the big ISPs connect to each other, could someone shed some light on the situation?
Does peering involve a physical connection or is it just down to advertising routes?
I thought having your routes advertised was a good thing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29852363</id>
	<title>Re:Go peer with google instead</title>
	<author>dotwaffle</author>
	<datestamp>1256296620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Right, so you peer with Google, who have a fairly open peering policy. How does that solve you getting access to Cogent's customers? You expect Google to leak Cogent's routes to it's peers free of charge?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Right , so you peer with Google , who have a fairly open peering policy .
How does that solve you getting access to Cogent 's customers ?
You expect Google to leak Cogent 's routes to it 's peers free of charge ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right, so you peer with Google, who have a fairly open peering policy.
How does that solve you getting access to Cogent's customers?
You expect Google to leak Cogent's routes to it's peers free of charge?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29852245</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29852749</id>
	<title>Re:The Cake is...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256299500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Damn ESL engineers or ESL cake bakers. Not sure which. Probably ESL engineers though. Cogent will probably hit back with a tort saying "lern too spell and wee wil peer IPv6 at yew". Next comes a tort of a different, less flavorful, variety complete with IANAL comments.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Damn ESL engineers or ESL cake bakers .
Not sure which .
Probably ESL engineers though .
Cogent will probably hit back with a tort saying " lern too spell and wee wil peer IPv6 at yew " .
Next comes a tort of a different , less flavorful , variety complete with IANAL comments .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Damn ESL engineers or ESL cake bakers.
Not sure which.
Probably ESL engineers though.
Cogent will probably hit back with a tort saying "lern too spell and wee wil peer IPv6 at yew".
Next comes a tort of a different, less flavorful, variety complete with IANAL comments.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29852241</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29854157</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to IPv5?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256317680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://lmgtfy.com/?q=IPv5&amp;l=1" title="lmgtfy.com" rel="nofollow">LMGTFY</a> [lmgtfy.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>LMGTFY [ lmgtfy.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>LMGTFY [lmgtfy.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29853255</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29851985</id>
	<title>It will work itself out.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256294040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As more customers complain about not being able to access certain sites.  Business will be lost, and gained and eventually it will eventually stabilize.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As more customers complain about not being able to access certain sites .
Business will be lost , and gained and eventually it will eventually stabilize .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As more customers complain about not being able to access certain sites.
Business will be lost, and gained and eventually it will eventually stabilize.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29854865</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to IPv5?</title>
	<author>skastrik</author>
	<datestamp>1256416980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Who cares what happened to v5. One higher is obviously better, isn't it?
<br>
Anyways, I'll wait for v6.0.1 to have most of the bugs ironed out.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who cares what happened to v5 .
One higher is obviously better , is n't it ?
Anyways , I 'll wait for v6.0.1 to have most of the bugs ironed out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who cares what happened to v5.
One higher is obviously better, isn't it?
Anyways, I'll wait for v6.0.1 to have most of the bugs ironed out.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29853255</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29852655</id>
	<title>Yummm, Cake!</title>
	<author>condition-label-red</author>
	<datestamp>1256298720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/77519640@N00/4031434206//" title="flickr.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/77519640@N00/4031434206//</a> [flickr.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.flickr.com/photos/77519640 @ N00/4031434206// [ flickr.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.flickr.com/photos/77519640@N00/4031434206// [flickr.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29853763</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to IPv5?</title>
	<author>zapakh</author>
	<datestamp>1256310960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If we are gonna skip numbers, why "6"?, sounds like the devil's work to me. They even use "hex" numbers in the dot notation... (which is 8 groups of 4 hex digits... so why not IPv8?)</p></div><p>8 looks too much like 6.  We'll have to bring back <a href="http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1606.txt" title="ietf.org" rel="nofollow">IPv9</a> [ietf.org] instead.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If we are gon na skip numbers , why " 6 " ? , sounds like the devil 's work to me .
They even use " hex " numbers in the dot notation... ( which is 8 groups of 4 hex digits... so why not IPv8 ?
) 8 looks too much like 6 .
We 'll have to bring back IPv9 [ ietf.org ] instead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If we are gonna skip numbers, why "6"?, sounds like the devil's work to me.
They even use "hex" numbers in the dot notation... (which is 8 groups of 4 hex digits... so why not IPv8?
)8 looks too much like 6.
We'll have to bring back IPv9 [ietf.org] instead.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29853255</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29852157</id>
	<title>Would I be an awful person...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256295300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>If I were to express confidence that there is a perfectly cogent explanation for the behavior of both disputing parties?</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I were to express confidence that there is a perfectly cogent explanation for the behavior of both disputing parties ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I were to express confidence that there is a perfectly cogent explanation for the behavior of both disputing parties?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29852255</id>
	<title>Re:I wouldn't peer with HE either....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256295900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>[Hurricane Electric] are the Wal-Mart of bandwidth and offer dirt-cheap prices. [...] how dare they expect to offer the same QoS and not pay for it.</p></div><p>Huh?  You meant that there are operators that offer actual QoS for IP traffic?  If so, it's an interesting new research result, and I'd like to see the technology.

</p><p>(More seriously -- unless you can show us that HE's SLA is significantly worse than other operators', I recommend that you shut up.  What you're doing is called uninformed FUD.)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>[ Hurricane Electric ] are the Wal-Mart of bandwidth and offer dirt-cheap prices .
[ ... ] how dare they expect to offer the same QoS and not pay for it.Huh ?
You meant that there are operators that offer actual QoS for IP traffic ?
If so , it 's an interesting new research result , and I 'd like to see the technology .
( More seriously -- unless you can show us that HE 's SLA is significantly worse than other operators ' , I recommend that you shut up .
What you 're doing is called uninformed FUD .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[Hurricane Electric] are the Wal-Mart of bandwidth and offer dirt-cheap prices.
[...] how dare they expect to offer the same QoS and not pay for it.Huh?
You meant that there are operators that offer actual QoS for IP traffic?
If so, it's an interesting new research result, and I'd like to see the technology.
(More seriously -- unless you can show us that HE's SLA is significantly worse than other operators', I recommend that you shut up.
What you're doing is called uninformed FUD.
)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29852039</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29852245</id>
	<title>Go peer with google instead</title>
	<author>Ant P.</author>
	<datestamp>1256295840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They've already bought loads of dark fibre, maybe they'd be interested in getting a controlling stake in IPv6 early on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 've already bought loads of dark fibre , maybe they 'd be interested in getting a controlling stake in IPv6 early on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They've already bought loads of dark fibre, maybe they'd be interested in getting a controlling stake in IPv6 early on.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29852217</id>
	<title>Transition going well...</title>
	<author>freak132</author>
	<datestamp>1256295720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>It seems that the IPv6 transition is going well; we've migrated peering disputes to the lovely next generation protocol.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems that the IPv6 transition is going well ; we 've migrated peering disputes to the lovely next generation protocol .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems that the IPv6 transition is going well; we've migrated peering disputes to the lovely next generation protocol.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29854815</id>
	<title>Re:analogy</title>
	<author>Ihmhi</author>
	<datestamp>1256415780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can someone give me that as an analogy with bi-curious cars instead?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can someone give me that as an analogy with bi-curious cars instead ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can someone give me that as an analogy with bi-curious cars instead?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29851961</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29858525</id>
	<title>Mandatory xkcd</title>
	<author>jspenguin1</author>
	<datestamp>1256413560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Was the cake shaped like <a href="http://xkcd.com/192/" title="xkcd.com" rel="nofollow">the internet</a> [xkcd.com]?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Was the cake shaped like the internet [ xkcd.com ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Was the cake shaped like the internet [xkcd.com]?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29852155</id>
	<title>Re:Uh huh</title>
	<author>poetmatt</author>
	<datestamp>1256295300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>it depends on if it's a sheet cake and whether they mean that figuratively or phonetically.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>it depends on if it 's a sheet cake and whether they mean that figuratively or phonetically .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it depends on if it's a sheet cake and whether they mean that figuratively or phonetically.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29851921</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29856103</id>
	<title>Re:Oh great, Cogent is at it again</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256394360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been following the Cogentco peering issues for quite some time because we use Cogentco in a few of our locations for internet access or as a VPN backup to our MPLS.  I think the other carriers are ganging up and using FUD with Cogent because they can not compete with Cogentco.  Other then the occasional peering issues which we can typically get around with some changes because we have multiple carriers in multiple locations, our numbers show our Cogentco service has been at or above average for reliability and responsiveness compared to all of our other carriers we use for the last four years.  For connections between two of our Cogentco connected locations, it is even better.  I'm sure the carriers in dispute with Cogent can claim what ever reasons they like about peering but they could also all be explained with the price and competition that Cogent has and the fact they can not compete with it and it is in their best interest to make Cogent look bad.  If we use Sprint in one office and Cogentco in another, we are a customer of each and we use that argument when we open tickets with each of them when the peering gets disrupted between them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been following the Cogentco peering issues for quite some time because we use Cogentco in a few of our locations for internet access or as a VPN backup to our MPLS .
I think the other carriers are ganging up and using FUD with Cogent because they can not compete with Cogentco .
Other then the occasional peering issues which we can typically get around with some changes because we have multiple carriers in multiple locations , our numbers show our Cogentco service has been at or above average for reliability and responsiveness compared to all of our other carriers we use for the last four years .
For connections between two of our Cogentco connected locations , it is even better .
I 'm sure the carriers in dispute with Cogent can claim what ever reasons they like about peering but they could also all be explained with the price and competition that Cogent has and the fact they can not compete with it and it is in their best interest to make Cogent look bad .
If we use Sprint in one office and Cogentco in another , we are a customer of each and we use that argument when we open tickets with each of them when the peering gets disrupted between them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been following the Cogentco peering issues for quite some time because we use Cogentco in a few of our locations for internet access or as a VPN backup to our MPLS.
I think the other carriers are ganging up and using FUD with Cogent because they can not compete with Cogentco.
Other then the occasional peering issues which we can typically get around with some changes because we have multiple carriers in multiple locations, our numbers show our Cogentco service has been at or above average for reliability and responsiveness compared to all of our other carriers we use for the last four years.
For connections between two of our Cogentco connected locations, it is even better.
I'm sure the carriers in dispute with Cogent can claim what ever reasons they like about peering but they could also all be explained with the price and competition that Cogent has and the fact they can not compete with it and it is in their best interest to make Cogent look bad.
If we use Sprint in one office and Cogentco in another, we are a customer of each and we use that argument when we open tickets with each of them when the peering gets disrupted between them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29852037</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29854459</id>
	<title>IPv6 makes spamming easier, HE spams</title>
	<author>hardwarefreak</author>
	<datestamp>1256322060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Considering the amount of spam historically coming from HE's network, I can't really blame Cogent for not wanting to peer HE's IPv6 traffic.  Fighting spam in IPv6 space in much much more difficult than the current state of affairs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Considering the amount of spam historically coming from HE 's network , I ca n't really blame Cogent for not wanting to peer HE 's IPv6 traffic .
Fighting spam in IPv6 space in much much more difficult than the current state of affairs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Considering the amount of spam historically coming from HE's network, I can't really blame Cogent for not wanting to peer HE's IPv6 traffic.
Fighting spam in IPv6 space in much much more difficult than the current state of affairs.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29852933</id>
	<title>Re-brand</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256301720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just re-brand to starkpun.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just re-brand to starkpun .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just re-brand to starkpun.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29854871</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to IPv5?</title>
	<author>paul248</author>
	<datestamp>1256417100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Someone already tried <a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1475" title="ietf.org">IPv7</a> [ietf.org] in 1993.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Someone already tried IPv7 [ ietf.org ] in 1993 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someone already tried IPv7 [ietf.org] in 1993.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29853255</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29852769</id>
	<title>Re:The Cake is...</title>
	<author>TheP4st</author>
	<datestamp>1256299740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They misspelled "Please" on the cake. </p></div><p>Or... they made a point by peering the &#252;ber delicious e via IPv6<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They misspelled " Please " on the cake .
Or... they made a point by peering the   ber delicious e via IPv6 ; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They misspelled "Please" on the cake.
Or... they made a point by peering the über delicious e via IPv6 ;-)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29852241</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29852197</id>
	<title>Re:ob.</title>
	<author>Rei</author>
	<datestamp>1256295540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"The IT Center reminds you that the Beige IPv6 Router cannot speak. In the event that the Beige IPv6 Router does speak, the IT Center urges you to disregard it's advice."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" The IT Center reminds you that the Beige IPv6 Router can not speak .
In the event that the Beige IPv6 Router does speak , the IT Center urges you to disregard it 's advice .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The IT Center reminds you that the Beige IPv6 Router cannot speak.
In the event that the Beige IPv6 Router does speak, the IT Center urges you to disregard it's advice.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29851989</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29853729</id>
	<title>Re:Would I be an awful person...</title>
	<author>zapakh</author>
	<datestamp>1256310480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If I were to express confidence that there is a perfectly cogent explanation for the behavior of both disputing parties?</p></div><p>The net-net is, that's up to your peers.
</p><p>
Now excuse me while IP.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I were to express confidence that there is a perfectly cogent explanation for the behavior of both disputing parties ? The net-net is , that 's up to your peers .
Now excuse me while IP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I were to express confidence that there is a perfectly cogent explanation for the behavior of both disputing parties?The net-net is, that's up to your peers.
Now excuse me while IP.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29852157</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29853255</id>
	<title>What happened to IPv5?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256304960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If we are gonna skip numbers, why "6"?, sounds like the devil's work to me. They even use "hex" numbers in the dot notation... (which is 8 groups of 4 hex digits... so why not IPv8?)
<br>
<br>
I'm just sayin.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If we are gon na skip numbers , why " 6 " ? , sounds like the devil 's work to me .
They even use " hex " numbers in the dot notation... ( which is 8 groups of 4 hex digits... so why not IPv8 ?
) I 'm just sayin .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If we are gonna skip numbers, why "6"?, sounds like the devil's work to me.
They even use "hex" numbers in the dot notation... (which is 8 groups of 4 hex digits... so why not IPv8?
)


I'm just sayin.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29852241</id>
	<title>Re:The Cake is...</title>
	<author>idontgno</author>
	<datestamp>1256295840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They misspelled "Please" on the cake. Pitiful.</p><p>Maybe Cogent is just holding out for a peer that can spell at the 3rd-grade level.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They misspelled " Please " on the cake .
Pitiful.Maybe Cogent is just holding out for a peer that can spell at the 3rd-grade level .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They misspelled "Please" on the cake.
Pitiful.Maybe Cogent is just holding out for a peer that can spell at the 3rd-grade level.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29851993</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29852339</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256296500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>may have gotten somewhere, had they spelled "please" correctly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>may have gotten somewhere , had they spelled " please " correctly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>may have gotten somewhere, had they spelled "please" correctly.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29851993</id>
	<title>The Cake is...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256294040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/10/22/peering-disputes-migrate-to-ipv6/" title="datacenterknowledge.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/10/22/peering-disputes-migrate-to-ipv6/</a> [datacenterknowledge.com]

Only article I could find with a pic of the cake.</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/10/22/peering-disputes-migrate-to-ipv6/ [ datacenterknowledge.com ] Only article I could find with a pic of the cake .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/10/22/peering-disputes-migrate-to-ipv6/ [datacenterknowledge.com]

Only article I could find with a pic of the cake.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29852039</id>
	<title>I wouldn't peer with HE either....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256294400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>They are the Wal-Mart of bandwidth and offer dirt-cheap prices.  How can they do that and expect to hand-off to more expensive/higher quality(It's Cogent, I know....) networks? People want cheaper and cheaper so a company will eventually come along that caters to that crowd, but how dare they expect to offer the same QoS and not pay for it.  Forget peering then throttling the links, Cogent is doing the right thing and not even lighting the fiber.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They are the Wal-Mart of bandwidth and offer dirt-cheap prices .
How can they do that and expect to hand-off to more expensive/higher quality ( It 's Cogent , I know.... ) networks ?
People want cheaper and cheaper so a company will eventually come along that caters to that crowd , but how dare they expect to offer the same QoS and not pay for it .
Forget peering then throttling the links , Cogent is doing the right thing and not even lighting the fiber .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They are the Wal-Mart of bandwidth and offer dirt-cheap prices.
How can they do that and expect to hand-off to more expensive/higher quality(It's Cogent, I know....) networks?
People want cheaper and cheaper so a company will eventually come along that caters to that crowd, but how dare they expect to offer the same QoS and not pay for it.
Forget peering then throttling the links, Cogent is doing the right thing and not even lighting the fiber.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1715235.29852161</id>
	<title>Growing Trend...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256295300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I haven't been with it long enough to know how often this kind of stuff goes on, but are Cake Gestures common in IT/IS/CT? Or only after the release of Portal? I recall IE sending a Cake to Firefox... Or Mozilla... Or something... (or vice versa, I don't really remember who congradulated who)...</p><p>It almost seems like they would send a cake hoping it'll get news'd somewhere so the public favours whoever is sending the cake.</p><p>Or maybe I'm just paranoid. The companion cube will do that to ya, you know.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have n't been with it long enough to know how often this kind of stuff goes on , but are Cake Gestures common in IT/IS/CT ?
Or only after the release of Portal ?
I recall IE sending a Cake to Firefox... Or Mozilla... Or something... ( or vice versa , I do n't really remember who congradulated who ) ...It almost seems like they would send a cake hoping it 'll get news 'd somewhere so the public favours whoever is sending the cake.Or maybe I 'm just paranoid .
The companion cube will do that to ya , you know .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I haven't been with it long enough to know how often this kind of stuff goes on, but are Cake Gestures common in IT/IS/CT?
Or only after the release of Portal?
I recall IE sending a Cake to Firefox... Or Mozilla... Or something... (or vice versa, I don't really remember who congradulated who)...It almost seems like they would send a cake hoping it'll get news'd somewhere so the public favours whoever is sending the cake.Or maybe I'm just paranoid.
The companion cube will do that to ya, you know.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Uh huh</title>
	<author>DigiShaman</author>
	<datestamp>1256298180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What? Just let'em eat it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What ?
Just let'em eat it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What?
Just let'em eat it?</sentencetext>
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