<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_22_2224214</id>
	<title>Mozilla Messaging Unveils Raindrop</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1256207100000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>mhammond writes <i>"Mozilla Messaging has just unveiled a Mozilla Labs project, <a href="http://labs.mozilla.com/raindrop">Raindrop, an experiment with Open Messaging on the Open Web</a>.  Raindrop uses couchdb as a storage engine and to serve the HTML/CSS/Javascript application itself, while the back-end is primarily written in Python.  Although it is early days yet, the concept that you own your data may be what sets this apart from Google Wave."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>mhammond writes " Mozilla Messaging has just unveiled a Mozilla Labs project , Raindrop , an experiment with Open Messaging on the Open Web .
Raindrop uses couchdb as a storage engine and to serve the HTML/CSS/Javascript application itself , while the back-end is primarily written in Python .
Although it is early days yet , the concept that you own your data may be what sets this apart from Google Wave .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>mhammond writes "Mozilla Messaging has just unveiled a Mozilla Labs project, Raindrop, an experiment with Open Messaging on the Open Web.
Raindrop uses couchdb as a storage engine and to serve the HTML/CSS/Javascript application itself, while the back-end is primarily written in Python.
Although it is early days yet, the concept that you own your data may be what sets this apart from Google Wave.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29841129</id>
	<title>Yo Dawg...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256211960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I heard you liked Mozilla Lab Projects so I tweeted about this, so you can read about Raindrop while using Raindrop.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I heard you liked Mozilla Lab Projects so I tweeted about this , so you can read about Raindrop while using Raindrop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I heard you liked Mozilla Lab Projects so I tweeted about this, so you can read about Raindrop while using Raindrop.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29841497</id>
	<title>Re:Finish Thunderbird first?</title>
	<author>ChaosDiscord</author>
	<datestamp>1256214540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm with you!  How dare these people that I don't pay, who give away their creations, source included, not focus on the specific tasks I care about?  What is with these layout volunteers working on whatever happens to tickle their fancy?  Why aren't the paid employees all focusing on one particular project, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Mythical\_Man-Month" title="wikipedia.org">adding manpower to a slow software project is guaranteed to make it faster!</a> [wikipedia.org]  The internets are serious business, and I don't have time for this!

</p><p>I saw we get together and refuse to pay another dollar for any Mozilla products until they comply with our demands!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm with you !
How dare these people that I do n't pay , who give away their creations , source included , not focus on the specific tasks I care about ?
What is with these layout volunteers working on whatever happens to tickle their fancy ?
Why are n't the paid employees all focusing on one particular project , adding manpower to a slow software project is guaranteed to make it faster !
[ wikipedia.org ] The internets are serious business , and I do n't have time for this !
I saw we get together and refuse to pay another dollar for any Mozilla products until they comply with our demands !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm with you!
How dare these people that I don't pay, who give away their creations, source included, not focus on the specific tasks I care about?
What is with these layout volunteers working on whatever happens to tickle their fancy?
Why aren't the paid employees all focusing on one particular project, adding manpower to a slow software project is guaranteed to make it faster!
[wikipedia.org]  The internets are serious business, and I don't have time for this!
I saw we get together and refuse to pay another dollar for any Mozilla products until they comply with our demands!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29841165</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29841963</id>
	<title>I read TFA</title>
	<author>Grimnir512</author>
	<datestamp>1256220000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I read TFA over a few times and I'm not so sure what this is or how it works. It seems to be some sort of email/twitter/facebook aggregator. Have I understood this correctly?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I read TFA over a few times and I 'm not so sure what this is or how it works .
It seems to be some sort of email/twitter/facebook aggregator .
Have I understood this correctly ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read TFA over a few times and I'm not so sure what this is or how it works.
It seems to be some sort of email/twitter/facebook aggregator.
Have I understood this correctly?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29843425</id>
	<title>Re:Meta</title>
	<author>Jugalator</author>
	<datestamp>1256329860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Feedalizr already does that.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-p It aggregates from FriendFeed, among others, which itself is an aggregator.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Feedalizr already does that .
: -p It aggregates from FriendFeed , among others , which itself is an aggregator .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Feedalizr already does that.
:-p It aggregates from FriendFeed, among others, which itself is an aggregator.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29842077</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29846685</id>
	<title>Douchebag of the year award goes to...</title>
	<author>GooberToo</author>
	<datestamp>1256316240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Although it is early days yet, the concept that you own your data may be what sets this apart from Google Wave.</p></div><p>Whoever wrote that part is either dumber than a bag of hammers or is purposely attempting to confuse and mislead people with misinformation. Wave is a protocol, not an application. One of the purposes of Wave is to provide a reference implementation (what everyone has been testing) such that others are free to either run the reference implementation, some variation thereof, or create their own server (via publicly available documentation) such that they can run their own servers and maintain ALL DATA INTERNALLY. Even the video purposely makes it clear you can run as many Wave servers as you like and NEVER HAVE YOUR DATA EXPOSED OUTSIDE OF YOUR OWN COMPANY.</p><p>The Wave protocol is built from the ground up such that everyone is free to own as much or as little of their data as they desire. Period. Anyone who says otherwise is full of bullshit.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Although it is early days yet , the concept that you own your data may be what sets this apart from Google Wave.Whoever wrote that part is either dumber than a bag of hammers or is purposely attempting to confuse and mislead people with misinformation .
Wave is a protocol , not an application .
One of the purposes of Wave is to provide a reference implementation ( what everyone has been testing ) such that others are free to either run the reference implementation , some variation thereof , or create their own server ( via publicly available documentation ) such that they can run their own servers and maintain ALL DATA INTERNALLY .
Even the video purposely makes it clear you can run as many Wave servers as you like and NEVER HAVE YOUR DATA EXPOSED OUTSIDE OF YOUR OWN COMPANY.The Wave protocol is built from the ground up such that everyone is free to own as much or as little of their data as they desire .
Period. Anyone who says otherwise is full of bullshit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Although it is early days yet, the concept that you own your data may be what sets this apart from Google Wave.Whoever wrote that part is either dumber than a bag of hammers or is purposely attempting to confuse and mislead people with misinformation.
Wave is a protocol, not an application.
One of the purposes of Wave is to provide a reference implementation (what everyone has been testing) such that others are free to either run the reference implementation, some variation thereof, or create their own server (via publicly available documentation) such that they can run their own servers and maintain ALL DATA INTERNALLY.
Even the video purposely makes it clear you can run as many Wave servers as you like and NEVER HAVE YOUR DATA EXPOSED OUTSIDE OF YOUR OWN COMPANY.The Wave protocol is built from the ground up such that everyone is free to own as much or as little of their data as they desire.
Period. Anyone who says otherwise is full of bullshit.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29842243</id>
	<title>Interesting...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256224260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Raindrop looks interesting.</p><p>Gmail meets all my email needs right now, but I don't visit facebook often because it's annoying to load the site.  I like the idea of being able to see the most important message interests me for both personal and business purposes.</p><p>Incidentally, Bryan Clark (the presenter of the first video) was the Teacher's Assistant for my Op-sys class.  Always nice to see a familiar face out there working on interesting concepts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Raindrop looks interesting.Gmail meets all my email needs right now , but I do n't visit facebook often because it 's annoying to load the site .
I like the idea of being able to see the most important message interests me for both personal and business purposes.Incidentally , Bryan Clark ( the presenter of the first video ) was the Teacher 's Assistant for my Op-sys class .
Always nice to see a familiar face out there working on interesting concepts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Raindrop looks interesting.Gmail meets all my email needs right now, but I don't visit facebook often because it's annoying to load the site.
I like the idea of being able to see the most important message interests me for both personal and business purposes.Incidentally, Bryan Clark (the presenter of the first video) was the Teacher's Assistant for my Op-sys class.
Always nice to see a familiar face out there working on interesting concepts.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29843607</id>
	<title>Re:TFS is ludicrous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256290020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>yeah, sure. We're all going to host our own Wave servers or use a provider other than Google ?<br>
It might happen in large companies and a few geek basements but the majority are going to just use Google's Wave servers. How many people set up their own sendmail/postfix/qmail server compared to how many people use gmail/hotmail/yahoo. OK, I know<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. is the wrong place to ask that question, I run a sendmail server myself, but you get my point.</htmltext>
<tokenext>yeah , sure .
We 're all going to host our own Wave servers or use a provider other than Google ?
It might happen in large companies and a few geek basements but the majority are going to just use Google 's Wave servers .
How many people set up their own sendmail/postfix/qmail server compared to how many people use gmail/hotmail/yahoo .
OK , I know / .
is the wrong place to ask that question , I run a sendmail server myself , but you get my point .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yeah, sure.
We're all going to host our own Wave servers or use a provider other than Google ?
It might happen in large companies and a few geek basements but the majority are going to just use Google's Wave servers.
How many people set up their own sendmail/postfix/qmail server compared to how many people use gmail/hotmail/yahoo.
OK, I know /.
is the wrong place to ask that question, I run a sendmail server myself, but you get my point.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29841245</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29845203</id>
	<title>It's CouchDB, therefor it's evil</title>
	<author>bluefoxlucid</author>
	<datestamp>1256308200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's CouchDB.  It's that thing that tries to suck all the contacts and personal information off your computer if you're running Ubuntu, and store it with Canonical.  It must be evil; at least Google doesn't up and install Google Desktop on my computer when I upgrade Firefox, without loudly asking (hey here's checkboxes.  We want to install Google Desktop, since you're updating Google Earth.), and then immediately start transferring copies of my non-gmail e-mail conversations and my address book and Firefox bookmarks to Google.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's CouchDB .
It 's that thing that tries to suck all the contacts and personal information off your computer if you 're running Ubuntu , and store it with Canonical .
It must be evil ; at least Google does n't up and install Google Desktop on my computer when I upgrade Firefox , without loudly asking ( hey here 's checkboxes .
We want to install Google Desktop , since you 're updating Google Earth .
) , and then immediately start transferring copies of my non-gmail e-mail conversations and my address book and Firefox bookmarks to Google .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's CouchDB.
It's that thing that tries to suck all the contacts and personal information off your computer if you're running Ubuntu, and store it with Canonical.
It must be evil; at least Google doesn't up and install Google Desktop on my computer when I upgrade Firefox, without loudly asking (hey here's checkboxes.
We want to install Google Desktop, since you're updating Google Earth.
), and then immediately start transferring copies of my non-gmail e-mail conversations and my address book and Firefox bookmarks to Google.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29842405</id>
	<title>Re:Finish Thunderbird first?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256226000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well I can't wait for TB 3 to be finished soon enough. So far TB 3 doesn't work with the Lightning Calendar add-in so I am stuck with TB 2.X for that.</p><p>I switched from Outlook to Thunderbird and I want to have email and calendar options in the same program. Maybe Raindrop can do that, but until it does finish TB 3 for those of us without Wave servers before you finish Raindrop.</p><p>In order to update my Timex Data Link watch I have to copy data from Thunderbird to Outlook and then sync up with Outlook using the Timex Data Link software. But I am going to get rid of my Data Link watch as it is old and nothing replaced it. I am going with a solar powered digital watch. I hope to find something that can store my contact and calendar like the Data Link did, but I like the idea of wearable data.</p><p>My Cell phone is a TracFone, and won't do data transfers, I cannot afford a BlackBerry, Smartphone, or iPhone, and I can barely afford a PDA and since it isn't wearable I can lose it easily as I lost many others.</p><p>Thunderbird needs to be finished and then syncing up with other calendar applications and servers before the team moves on to finish Raindrop, because so far Thunderbird isn't that good a competitor to Outlook yet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well I ca n't wait for TB 3 to be finished soon enough .
So far TB 3 does n't work with the Lightning Calendar add-in so I am stuck with TB 2.X for that.I switched from Outlook to Thunderbird and I want to have email and calendar options in the same program .
Maybe Raindrop can do that , but until it does finish TB 3 for those of us without Wave servers before you finish Raindrop.In order to update my Timex Data Link watch I have to copy data from Thunderbird to Outlook and then sync up with Outlook using the Timex Data Link software .
But I am going to get rid of my Data Link watch as it is old and nothing replaced it .
I am going with a solar powered digital watch .
I hope to find something that can store my contact and calendar like the Data Link did , but I like the idea of wearable data.My Cell phone is a TracFone , and wo n't do data transfers , I can not afford a BlackBerry , Smartphone , or iPhone , and I can barely afford a PDA and since it is n't wearable I can lose it easily as I lost many others.Thunderbird needs to be finished and then syncing up with other calendar applications and servers before the team moves on to finish Raindrop , because so far Thunderbird is n't that good a competitor to Outlook yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well I can't wait for TB 3 to be finished soon enough.
So far TB 3 doesn't work with the Lightning Calendar add-in so I am stuck with TB 2.X for that.I switched from Outlook to Thunderbird and I want to have email and calendar options in the same program.
Maybe Raindrop can do that, but until it does finish TB 3 for those of us without Wave servers before you finish Raindrop.In order to update my Timex Data Link watch I have to copy data from Thunderbird to Outlook and then sync up with Outlook using the Timex Data Link software.
But I am going to get rid of my Data Link watch as it is old and nothing replaced it.
I am going with a solar powered digital watch.
I hope to find something that can store my contact and calendar like the Data Link did, but I like the idea of wearable data.My Cell phone is a TracFone, and won't do data transfers, I cannot afford a BlackBerry, Smartphone, or iPhone, and I can barely afford a PDA and since it isn't wearable I can lose it easily as I lost many others.Thunderbird needs to be finished and then syncing up with other calendar applications and servers before the team moves on to finish Raindrop, because so far Thunderbird isn't that good a competitor to Outlook yet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29841487</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29841579</id>
	<title>Frost Pist</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256215260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>end, we need you were nuulified by shitheads. *BSD BSD fanatics? I'7e is part of the Paper towels, There are some</htmltext>
<tokenext>end , we need you were nuulified by shitheads .
* BSD BSD fanatics ?
I'7e is part of the Paper towels , There are some</tokentext>
<sentencetext>end, we need you were nuulified by shitheads.
*BSD BSD fanatics?
I'7e is part of the Paper towels, There are some</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29841257</id>
	<title>Re:I hope that will be a non browser client</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256212920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know what that would look like, except maybe a browser with no plugin capability.  Wave is designed to integrate so many web-centric technologies<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... what you're asking for seems a lot like asking for an email client that didn't require written language to send messages.</p><p>Which would be cool, come to think of it.  Maybe Google will give us that next?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know what that would look like , except maybe a browser with no plugin capability .
Wave is designed to integrate so many web-centric technologies ... what you 're asking for seems a lot like asking for an email client that did n't require written language to send messages.Which would be cool , come to think of it .
Maybe Google will give us that next ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know what that would look like, except maybe a browser with no plugin capability.
Wave is designed to integrate so many web-centric technologies ... what you're asking for seems a lot like asking for an email client that didn't require written language to send messages.Which would be cool, come to think of it.
Maybe Google will give us that next?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29841065</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29843639</id>
	<title>Re:Finish Thunderbird first?</title>
	<author>ran93r</author>
	<datestamp>1256290800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seconded, running beta 4 with 1.0pre and the nightly to pull in google calendar.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seconded , running beta 4 with 1.0pre and the nightly to pull in google calendar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seconded, running beta 4 with 1.0pre and the nightly to pull in google calendar.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29842405</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29841407</id>
	<title>Re:Finish Thunderbird first?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256213940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They still make dedicated email clients?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They still make dedicated email clients ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They still make dedicated email clients?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29841165</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29841101</id>
	<title>hey white faggots!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256211780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>obama has his dick firmly in your ass. i bet you just love that big old cock up in your faggot ass.<br> <br>faggot dick suckers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>obama has his dick firmly in your ass .
i bet you just love that big old cock up in your faggot ass .
faggot dick suckers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>obama has his dick firmly in your ass.
i bet you just love that big old cock up in your faggot ass.
faggot dick suckers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29843025</id>
	<title>Re:I hope that will be a non browser client</title>
	<author>buchner.johannes</author>
	<datestamp>1256236080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe similar to this <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtRoRMzE8Uc" title="youtube.com">persona editor project</a> [youtube.com]. Libraries that are able to tap into proprietary websites (social networks, etc.) to escape from vendor lock-in would be great.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe similar to this persona editor project [ youtube.com ] .
Libraries that are able to tap into proprietary websites ( social networks , etc .
) to escape from vendor lock-in would be great .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe similar to this persona editor project [youtube.com].
Libraries that are able to tap into proprietary websites (social networks, etc.
) to escape from vendor lock-in would be great.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29841065</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29841363</id>
	<title>Re:Google Wave</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256213700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>After watching the video linked to in TFA, I can't see how this is anything at all like Google Wave. All they apparently share in common is that they both have something to do with communication and the web.</p><p>I have yet to actually try it out, but to me, Raindrop looks like what would happen if you wrote an ordinary web email client and added support for twitter and facebook. I don't see why you couldn't achieve the same thing on the desktop with a few Thunderbird extensions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>After watching the video linked to in TFA , I ca n't see how this is anything at all like Google Wave .
All they apparently share in common is that they both have something to do with communication and the web.I have yet to actually try it out , but to me , Raindrop looks like what would happen if you wrote an ordinary web email client and added support for twitter and facebook .
I do n't see why you could n't achieve the same thing on the desktop with a few Thunderbird extensions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After watching the video linked to in TFA, I can't see how this is anything at all like Google Wave.
All they apparently share in common is that they both have something to do with communication and the web.I have yet to actually try it out, but to me, Raindrop looks like what would happen if you wrote an ordinary web email client and added support for twitter and facebook.
I don't see why you couldn't achieve the same thing on the desktop with a few Thunderbird extensions.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29840983</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29840959</id>
	<title>First piss</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256210820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You say raindrop,  I say piss stain!</htmltext>
<tokenext>You say raindrop , I say piss stain !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You say raindrop,  I say piss stain!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29842179</id>
	<title>Re:Finish Thunderbird first?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256223480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Name one free email client as good as Thunderbird that has PKCS#11 support.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Name one free email client as good as Thunderbird that has PKCS # 11 support .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Name one free email client as good as Thunderbird that has PKCS#11 support.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29842145</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29843441</id>
	<title>Re:Finish Thunderbird first?</title>
	<author>Joe Enduser</author>
	<datestamp>1256330040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; So far TB 3 doesn't work with the Lightning Calendar add-in so I am stuck with TB 2.X for that.</p><p>Eh? The reason I am using Thunderbird 3 beta is because that allows me to use Lightning Calendar 1.0pre.</p><p>You should give it a try.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; So far TB 3 does n't work with the Lightning Calendar add-in so I am stuck with TB 2.X for that.Eh ?
The reason I am using Thunderbird 3 beta is because that allows me to use Lightning Calendar 1.0pre.You should give it a try .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; So far TB 3 doesn't work with the Lightning Calendar add-in so I am stuck with TB 2.X for that.Eh?
The reason I am using Thunderbird 3 beta is because that allows me to use Lightning Calendar 1.0pre.You should give it a try.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29841487</id>
	<title>Re:Finish Thunderbird first?</title>
	<author>FrostedWheat</author>
	<datestamp>1256214540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're assuming that the same people who work on Thunderbird also work on these projects?</p><p>(They might well be... I don't know!)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're assuming that the same people who work on Thunderbird also work on these projects ?
( They might well be... I do n't know !
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're assuming that the same people who work on Thunderbird also work on these projects?
(They might well be... I don't know!
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29850589</id>
	<title>Re:Meta</title>
	<author>KnownIssues</author>
	<datestamp>1256331420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That will work just fine until the proliferation of aggregator aggregators, at which point we'll need an aggregator aggregator aggregator. Which is why they need to just make an aggregator than can aggregate itself. They can name it Aggregator(Aggregator).</htmltext>
<tokenext>That will work just fine until the proliferation of aggregator aggregators , at which point we 'll need an aggregator aggregator aggregator .
Which is why they need to just make an aggregator than can aggregate itself .
They can name it Aggregator ( Aggregator ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That will work just fine until the proliferation of aggregator aggregators, at which point we'll need an aggregator aggregator aggregator.
Which is why they need to just make an aggregator than can aggregate itself.
They can name it Aggregator(Aggregator).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29842145</id>
	<title>Re:Finish Thunderbird first?</title>
	<author>jonadab</author>
	<datestamp>1256222820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>&gt; Am I the only one who wishes they would hurry up and finish TB 3<br><br>Why?<br><br>There are approximately six hundred bajillion email clients out there.  Half a dozen of them are actually any good, and another thirty are mediocre but still at least as good as Thunderbird.  Half a dozen more are not as good as Thunderbird but nonetheless more popular.  Heck, there are at least three web-based ones that are so much more popular, more Firefox users use them than use Thunderbird.<br><br>Mozilla (and Netscape before it) has always been all about web browser technology, and they mostly do a pretty good job with that, which is important, since there are (excluding ones that use the Mozilla rendering engine) only a handful of other decent browsers out there.  I mean, there's Opera and about one other choice (IE, Safari, or Konqueror, depending on platform), and that's pretty much it.  So the Mozilla.org browser is *important*.  They should focus on that.<br><br>The world does *not* need them to also make Yet Another Mail Client.  We've got plenty of those, and then some.  I think there are more mail clients than there are Tetris clones.<br><br>Now, if they could make one that's actually really *good*, in a way that stands out from the crowd, that would be another matter.  But Thunderbird is just middle of the pack, nothing particularly special as mail clients go.</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Am I the only one who wishes they would hurry up and finish TB 3Why ? There are approximately six hundred bajillion email clients out there .
Half a dozen of them are actually any good , and another thirty are mediocre but still at least as good as Thunderbird .
Half a dozen more are not as good as Thunderbird but nonetheless more popular .
Heck , there are at least three web-based ones that are so much more popular , more Firefox users use them than use Thunderbird.Mozilla ( and Netscape before it ) has always been all about web browser technology , and they mostly do a pretty good job with that , which is important , since there are ( excluding ones that use the Mozilla rendering engine ) only a handful of other decent browsers out there .
I mean , there 's Opera and about one other choice ( IE , Safari , or Konqueror , depending on platform ) , and that 's pretty much it .
So the Mozilla.org browser is * important * .
They should focus on that.The world does * not * need them to also make Yet Another Mail Client .
We 've got plenty of those , and then some .
I think there are more mail clients than there are Tetris clones.Now , if they could make one that 's actually really * good * , in a way that stands out from the crowd , that would be another matter .
But Thunderbird is just middle of the pack , nothing particularly special as mail clients go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Am I the only one who wishes they would hurry up and finish TB 3Why?There are approximately six hundred bajillion email clients out there.
Half a dozen of them are actually any good, and another thirty are mediocre but still at least as good as Thunderbird.
Half a dozen more are not as good as Thunderbird but nonetheless more popular.
Heck, there are at least three web-based ones that are so much more popular, more Firefox users use them than use Thunderbird.Mozilla (and Netscape before it) has always been all about web browser technology, and they mostly do a pretty good job with that, which is important, since there are (excluding ones that use the Mozilla rendering engine) only a handful of other decent browsers out there.
I mean, there's Opera and about one other choice (IE, Safari, or Konqueror, depending on platform), and that's pretty much it.
So the Mozilla.org browser is *important*.
They should focus on that.The world does *not* need them to also make Yet Another Mail Client.
We've got plenty of those, and then some.
I think there are more mail clients than there are Tetris clones.Now, if they could make one that's actually really *good*, in a way that stands out from the crowd, that would be another matter.
But Thunderbird is just middle of the pack, nothing particularly special as mail clients go.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29841245</id>
	<title>TFS is ludicrous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256212800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Although it is early days yet, the concept that you own your data may be what sets this apart from Google Wave.</p></div></blockquote><p>The centerpiece of Wave is a server-to-server federation protocol that lets anyone control their own data that can be made accessible through Wave. So, with all the things that might set Mozilla's product apart from Wave, "the concept that you own your data" is not one of them.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Although it is early days yet , the concept that you own your data may be what sets this apart from Google Wave.The centerpiece of Wave is a server-to-server federation protocol that lets anyone control their own data that can be made accessible through Wave .
So , with all the things that might set Mozilla 's product apart from Wave , " the concept that you own your data " is not one of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Although it is early days yet, the concept that you own your data may be what sets this apart from Google Wave.The centerpiece of Wave is a server-to-server federation protocol that lets anyone control their own data that can be made accessible through Wave.
So, with all the things that might set Mozilla's product apart from Wave, "the concept that you own your data" is not one of them.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29844869</id>
	<title>Re:Finish Thunderbird first?</title>
	<author>sherriw</author>
	<datestamp>1256305680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You aren't the only one. I've been using TB2 for so long now, it's gone beyond stale. I hope TB3 comes with support for organizing emails into 'conversations' like gmail does.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are n't the only one .
I 've been using TB2 for so long now , it 's gone beyond stale .
I hope TB3 comes with support for organizing emails into 'conversations ' like gmail does .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You aren't the only one.
I've been using TB2 for so long now, it's gone beyond stale.
I hope TB3 comes with support for organizing emails into 'conversations' like gmail does.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29841147</id>
	<title>A hipster app...</title>
	<author>not already in use</author>
	<datestamp>1256212080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Written in hipster technologies.  If I were a betting man, I'd wager this will never see the light of day.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Written in hipster technologies .
If I were a betting man , I 'd wager this will never see the light of day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Written in hipster technologies.
If I were a betting man, I'd wager this will never see the light of day.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29845281</id>
	<title>Re:Finish Thunderbird first?</title>
	<author>bluefoxlucid</author>
	<datestamp>1256308680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They're not too worried.  Evolution is the big competitor (it's shipped on Ubuntu in the same way IE is shipped on Windows), and of course when I open Evolution I wait 10-15 minutes for a window to appear, just so I can edit my calendar.  I made the mistake of leaving it open once, and eventually it filled my RAM and my OOM killer failed, the machine locked up hard and I had to reset it after 20 minutes of waiting for the screen to unfreeze.  I had just run top to see wtf was eating all the memory (thanks to the system monitor running in the Gnome panel), saw Evolution with like 3 gigs of VMA and 1.8 gigs resident, and me with a full swap file, hit q, started to type 'killall -9' but didn't quite make it... sooo close.
</p><p>
Think about how worried the Firefox team would be if its major competitor was IE5 for MacOS9.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're not too worried .
Evolution is the big competitor ( it 's shipped on Ubuntu in the same way IE is shipped on Windows ) , and of course when I open Evolution I wait 10-15 minutes for a window to appear , just so I can edit my calendar .
I made the mistake of leaving it open once , and eventually it filled my RAM and my OOM killer failed , the machine locked up hard and I had to reset it after 20 minutes of waiting for the screen to unfreeze .
I had just run top to see wtf was eating all the memory ( thanks to the system monitor running in the Gnome panel ) , saw Evolution with like 3 gigs of VMA and 1.8 gigs resident , and me with a full swap file , hit q , started to type 'killall -9 ' but did n't quite make it... sooo close .
Think about how worried the Firefox team would be if its major competitor was IE5 for MacOS9 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're not too worried.
Evolution is the big competitor (it's shipped on Ubuntu in the same way IE is shipped on Windows), and of course when I open Evolution I wait 10-15 minutes for a window to appear, just so I can edit my calendar.
I made the mistake of leaving it open once, and eventually it filled my RAM and my OOM killer failed, the machine locked up hard and I had to reset it after 20 minutes of waiting for the screen to unfreeze.
I had just run top to see wtf was eating all the memory (thanks to the system monitor running in the Gnome panel), saw Evolution with like 3 gigs of VMA and 1.8 gigs resident, and me with a full swap file, hit q, started to type 'killall -9' but didn't quite make it... sooo close.
Think about how worried the Firefox team would be if its major competitor was IE5 for MacOS9.
</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29842275</id>
	<title>Re:Finish Thunderbird first?</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1256224620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm using the beta, and haven't had a problem yet.  If you're so anxious, maybe you could give it a try?  And maybe if you do have problems you could submit some feedback and let the developers know.
</p><p>The only thing I dislike about v3 is the tabs.  What's the point?  I read my email in a preview pane, and if I want to do anything other than that, then it's because I want it in another window.  I would just say, "to each his own", but they won't let you get rid of the tabs.  Even Firefox lets you not-use tabs if you want, and that's in a program where tabs make sense.
</p><p>Oh, but I've gone terribly off-topic.  I'll shut up now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm using the beta , and have n't had a problem yet .
If you 're so anxious , maybe you could give it a try ?
And maybe if you do have problems you could submit some feedback and let the developers know .
The only thing I dislike about v3 is the tabs .
What 's the point ?
I read my email in a preview pane , and if I want to do anything other than that , then it 's because I want it in another window .
I would just say , " to each his own " , but they wo n't let you get rid of the tabs .
Even Firefox lets you not-use tabs if you want , and that 's in a program where tabs make sense .
Oh , but I 've gone terribly off-topic .
I 'll shut up now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm using the beta, and haven't had a problem yet.
If you're so anxious, maybe you could give it a try?
And maybe if you do have problems you could submit some feedback and let the developers know.
The only thing I dislike about v3 is the tabs.
What's the point?
I read my email in a preview pane, and if I want to do anything other than that, then it's because I want it in another window.
I would just say, "to each his own", but they won't let you get rid of the tabs.
Even Firefox lets you not-use tabs if you want, and that's in a program where tabs make sense.
Oh, but I've gone terribly off-topic.
I'll shut up now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29841341</id>
	<title>Re:I hope that will be a non browser client</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256213460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The vast majority of people with a computer tend to live in their browser's window.    And they like it!</p><p>By contrast, in the presentation videos for Google's Wave, the ncurses interface (or what seemed like one) garnered the loudest applause.  A narrow audience or limited subset of users?  Perhaps, but I expect there's enough of us who find using a web browser for anything other than browsing the web inefficient, if not abhorent.</p><p>Still, the march to develop new "messaging technologies" is interesting, especially with respect to certain things like collaboration.  Personally, I don't even think web or browser-based email works (at least for anyone other than trivial or casual use), so I'm happy to sit things out and watch on the sidelines.  Who knows.  Maybe they're onto something.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The vast majority of people with a computer tend to live in their browser 's window .
And they like it ! By contrast , in the presentation videos for Google 's Wave , the ncurses interface ( or what seemed like one ) garnered the loudest applause .
A narrow audience or limited subset of users ?
Perhaps , but I expect there 's enough of us who find using a web browser for anything other than browsing the web inefficient , if not abhorent.Still , the march to develop new " messaging technologies " is interesting , especially with respect to certain things like collaboration .
Personally , I do n't even think web or browser-based email works ( at least for anyone other than trivial or casual use ) , so I 'm happy to sit things out and watch on the sidelines .
Who knows .
Maybe they 're onto something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The vast majority of people with a computer tend to live in their browser's window.
And they like it!By contrast, in the presentation videos for Google's Wave, the ncurses interface (or what seemed like one) garnered the loudest applause.
A narrow audience or limited subset of users?
Perhaps, but I expect there's enough of us who find using a web browser for anything other than browsing the web inefficient, if not abhorent.Still, the march to develop new "messaging technologies" is interesting, especially with respect to certain things like collaboration.
Personally, I don't even think web or browser-based email works (at least for anyone other than trivial or casual use), so I'm happy to sit things out and watch on the sidelines.
Who knows.
Maybe they're onto something.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29841065</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29843417</id>
	<title>Re:Google Wave</title>
	<author>Jugalator</author>
	<datestamp>1256329740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree, Wave shouldn't even be involved in this discussion.</p><p>And this product already exists. Actually, from a number of companies, because this is just social media aggregator, right?</p><p>Stuff like this...<br>* <a href="http://friendfeed.com/" title="friendfeed.com">http://friendfeed.com/</a> [friendfeed.com]<br>* <a href="http://www.feedalizr.com/" title="feedalizr.com">http://www.feedalizr.com/</a> [feedalizr.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree , Wave should n't even be involved in this discussion.And this product already exists .
Actually , from a number of companies , because this is just social media aggregator , right ? Stuff like this... * http : //friendfeed.com/ [ friendfeed.com ] * http : //www.feedalizr.com/ [ feedalizr.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree, Wave shouldn't even be involved in this discussion.And this product already exists.
Actually, from a number of companies, because this is just social media aggregator, right?Stuff like this...* http://friendfeed.com/ [friendfeed.com]* http://www.feedalizr.com/ [feedalizr.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29841363</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29843239</id>
	<title>Will Thunderbird 3 not blow massive chunks?</title>
	<author>SuperBanana</author>
	<datestamp>1256239620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Someone ranted to me about how great Thunderbird was, so I downloaded it and gave it a shot.</p><p>Worked great, right up until I wanted to write an email to someone and cc'd to three other people.  Someone needs to be drug out into the street and shot for the user interface around composing/viewing/editing to/cc/bcc headers.  *Points to Apple Mail as an example*.</p><p>For example, creating an email to one person and with three people cc'd means an endless amount of fucking around with the mouse creating new "fields" and setting them to "cc".</p><p>For example, it's impossible to open a message, select the recipients, and create a new message and paste them in.</p><p>Nevermind that options and settings are so absurdly scattered across menus and dialog boxes it's not even funny. Firefox 2 called, it wants its horrible, gaudy, 1990-esque UI back.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Someone ranted to me about how great Thunderbird was , so I downloaded it and gave it a shot.Worked great , right up until I wanted to write an email to someone and cc 'd to three other people .
Someone needs to be drug out into the street and shot for the user interface around composing/viewing/editing to/cc/bcc headers .
* Points to Apple Mail as an example * .For example , creating an email to one person and with three people cc 'd means an endless amount of fucking around with the mouse creating new " fields " and setting them to " cc " .For example , it 's impossible to open a message , select the recipients , and create a new message and paste them in.Nevermind that options and settings are so absurdly scattered across menus and dialog boxes it 's not even funny .
Firefox 2 called , it wants its horrible , gaudy , 1990-esque UI back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someone ranted to me about how great Thunderbird was, so I downloaded it and gave it a shot.Worked great, right up until I wanted to write an email to someone and cc'd to three other people.
Someone needs to be drug out into the street and shot for the user interface around composing/viewing/editing to/cc/bcc headers.
*Points to Apple Mail as an example*.For example, creating an email to one person and with three people cc'd means an endless amount of fucking around with the mouse creating new "fields" and setting them to "cc".For example, it's impossible to open a message, select the recipients, and create a new message and paste them in.Nevermind that options and settings are so absurdly scattered across menus and dialog boxes it's not even funny.
Firefox 2 called, it wants its horrible, gaudy, 1990-esque UI back.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29841165</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29844085</id>
	<title>This could actually be the new wave client...</title>
	<author>v1z</author>
	<datestamp>1256297580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now, this looks very interesting. It's got nothing do to with wave -- except -- it might be nice to implement wave support for Raindrop ? Before looking at the raindrop source, it's hard to tell -- but from the videos it appears Raindrop handles i/o along several protocol streams, along with a seperate ui.</p><p>Stands to reason it should be feasable to implement a wave-backend -- the question then would be if the best way to handle that was encourage widespread wave-server-federation (every couchdb/raindrop-instance it's very own wave server) -- or connect the raindrop-backend to standalone wave-server(s) (more like how email is presumably handled by raindrop).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now , this looks very interesting .
It 's got nothing do to with wave -- except -- it might be nice to implement wave support for Raindrop ?
Before looking at the raindrop source , it 's hard to tell -- but from the videos it appears Raindrop handles i/o along several protocol streams , along with a seperate ui.Stands to reason it should be feasable to implement a wave-backend -- the question then would be if the best way to handle that was encourage widespread wave-server-federation ( every couchdb/raindrop-instance it 's very own wave server ) -- or connect the raindrop-backend to standalone wave-server ( s ) ( more like how email is presumably handled by raindrop ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now, this looks very interesting.
It's got nothing do to with wave -- except -- it might be nice to implement wave support for Raindrop ?
Before looking at the raindrop source, it's hard to tell -- but from the videos it appears Raindrop handles i/o along several protocol streams, along with a seperate ui.Stands to reason it should be feasable to implement a wave-backend -- the question then would be if the best way to handle that was encourage widespread wave-server-federation (every couchdb/raindrop-instance it's very own wave server) -- or connect the raindrop-backend to standalone wave-server(s) (more like how email is presumably handled by raindrop).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29847819</id>
	<title>Re:Will Thunderbird 3 not blow massive chunks?</title>
	<author>defaria</author>
	<datestamp>1256321340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just because you don't know what the fuck you are doing (and can't be bothered to read/research any documentation) does not mean that TB is bad. Just because you resort to the mouse because you don't have the foggiest notion of <b>already built in and standard to most modern GUIs</b> keyboard translations like tab to get to the next input box means that you're an idiot - not the program. You can easily type in your to, cc or bcc recipients without the use of a mouse - type a frigging comma will ya! Geeze. Setting the "field" to cc is but a tap of the "c" key but did cha try that?!? Hell no! Cause you're a frigging idiot! Perhaps you can't paste in recipients but most of the rest of the human race can. Next idiot please...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just because you do n't know what the fuck you are doing ( and ca n't be bothered to read/research any documentation ) does not mean that TB is bad .
Just because you resort to the mouse because you do n't have the foggiest notion of already built in and standard to most modern GUIs keyboard translations like tab to get to the next input box means that you 're an idiot - not the program .
You can easily type in your to , cc or bcc recipients without the use of a mouse - type a frigging comma will ya !
Geeze. Setting the " field " to cc is but a tap of the " c " key but did cha try that ? ! ?
Hell no !
Cause you 're a frigging idiot !
Perhaps you ca n't paste in recipients but most of the rest of the human race can .
Next idiot please.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just because you don't know what the fuck you are doing (and can't be bothered to read/research any documentation) does not mean that TB is bad.
Just because you resort to the mouse because you don't have the foggiest notion of already built in and standard to most modern GUIs keyboard translations like tab to get to the next input box means that you're an idiot - not the program.
You can easily type in your to, cc or bcc recipients without the use of a mouse - type a frigging comma will ya!
Geeze. Setting the "field" to cc is but a tap of the "c" key but did cha try that?!?
Hell no!
Cause you're a frigging idiot!
Perhaps you can't paste in recipients but most of the rest of the human race can.
Next idiot please...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29841165</id>
	<title>Finish Thunderbird first?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256212200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Am I the only one who wishes they would hurry up and finish TB 3, and integrate that will all the Web 2 goodness, instead of these random projects?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Am I the only one who wishes they would hurry up and finish TB 3 , and integrate that will all the Web 2 goodness , instead of these random projects ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I the only one who wishes they would hurry up and finish TB 3, and integrate that will all the Web 2 goodness, instead of these random projects?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29841425</id>
	<title>Re:Google Wave</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256214060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not to get too "640k is all anyone needs" here, but having used Wave now for about a week or two, the current client doesn't seem to be much more than a multi-user version of <a href="http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omnioutliner/" title="omnigroup.com" rel="nofollow">Omni Outliner</a> [omnigroup.com] (with less functionality).</p><p>Yeah, you could write new clients that make it work like twitter or IM or email.  But those things already exist and work just fine.  I don't see it as a very useful way to real-time collaborate on a document (compared with other, better ways- whether google docs or wikis...)  So I guess I'm not sure what the hype is about exactly.  Does google know what Wave is supposed to be, or is it just putting it out there and hoping it grows into something?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to get too " 640k is all anyone needs " here , but having used Wave now for about a week or two , the current client does n't seem to be much more than a multi-user version of Omni Outliner [ omnigroup.com ] ( with less functionality ) .Yeah , you could write new clients that make it work like twitter or IM or email .
But those things already exist and work just fine .
I do n't see it as a very useful way to real-time collaborate on a document ( compared with other , better ways- whether google docs or wikis... ) So I guess I 'm not sure what the hype is about exactly .
Does google know what Wave is supposed to be , or is it just putting it out there and hoping it grows into something ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to get too "640k is all anyone needs" here, but having used Wave now for about a week or two, the current client doesn't seem to be much more than a multi-user version of Omni Outliner [omnigroup.com] (with less functionality).Yeah, you could write new clients that make it work like twitter or IM or email.
But those things already exist and work just fine.
I don't see it as a very useful way to real-time collaborate on a document (compared with other, better ways- whether google docs or wikis...)  So I guess I'm not sure what the hype is about exactly.
Does google know what Wave is supposed to be, or is it just putting it out there and hoping it grows into something?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29840983</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29840983</id>
	<title>Google Wave</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256210940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wave is a protocol. It's just the first implementation that is google's. Build your own server and you own everything.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wave is a protocol .
It 's just the first implementation that is google 's .
Build your own server and you own everything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wave is a protocol.
It's just the first implementation that is google's.
Build your own server and you own everything.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29842077</id>
	<title>Meta</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256221860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Looks like with the current trend of new 'universal aggregators' we'll soon need an aggregator aggregator. I think they planned for this though, with possible titles such as 'mozilla monsoon' and 'google tsunami.'</htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like with the current trend of new 'universal aggregators ' we 'll soon need an aggregator aggregator .
I think they planned for this though , with possible titles such as 'mozilla monsoon ' and 'google tsunami .
'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looks like with the current trend of new 'universal aggregators' we'll soon need an aggregator aggregator.
I think they planned for this though, with possible titles such as 'mozilla monsoon' and 'google tsunami.
'</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29846121</id>
	<title>Re:Will Thunderbird 3 not blow massive chunks?</title>
	<author>Chelloveck</author>
	<datestamp>1256313180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Worked great, right up until I wanted to write an email to someone and cc'd to three other people. Someone needs to be drug out into the street and shot for the user interface around composing/viewing/editing to/cc/bcc headers. *Points to Apple Mail as an example*.</p></div></blockquote><p>Wait, are you seriously suggesting that Apple Mail has the <i>superior</i> interface here? You gotta be kidding me. The auto-complete is nothing short of pathological. I use both TBird and Mail.app on a daily basis, and neither one is particularly good at entering addresses. I certainly wouldn't view Mail.app as a shining example of a better way to do things.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Worked great , right up until I wanted to write an email to someone and cc 'd to three other people .
Someone needs to be drug out into the street and shot for the user interface around composing/viewing/editing to/cc/bcc headers .
* Points to Apple Mail as an example * .Wait , are you seriously suggesting that Apple Mail has the superior interface here ?
You got ta be kidding me .
The auto-complete is nothing short of pathological .
I use both TBird and Mail.app on a daily basis , and neither one is particularly good at entering addresses .
I certainly would n't view Mail.app as a shining example of a better way to do things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Worked great, right up until I wanted to write an email to someone and cc'd to three other people.
Someone needs to be drug out into the street and shot for the user interface around composing/viewing/editing to/cc/bcc headers.
*Points to Apple Mail as an example*.Wait, are you seriously suggesting that Apple Mail has the superior interface here?
You gotta be kidding me.
The auto-complete is nothing short of pathological.
I use both TBird and Mail.app on a daily basis, and neither one is particularly good at entering addresses.
I certainly wouldn't view Mail.app as a shining example of a better way to do things.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29841065</id>
	<title>I hope that will be a non browser client</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256211540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As in a desktop client written specifically to utilize this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As in a desktop client written specifically to utilize this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As in a desktop client written specifically to utilize this.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29844515</id>
	<title>Open opening iz open!</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1256302980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Raindrop, an experiment with Open Messaging on the Open Web.</p></div><p>Shouldn't that be "OpenSoft Open Raindrop, an open experiment with open Open Messaging on the open Open Web of openness."?</p><p>P.S.: Not a critique against openness.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Raindrop , an experiment with Open Messaging on the Open Web.Should n't that be " OpenSoft Open Raindrop , an open experiment with open Open Messaging on the open Open Web of openness. " ? P.S .
: Not a critique against openness .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Raindrop, an experiment with Open Messaging on the Open Web.Shouldn't that be "OpenSoft Open Raindrop, an open experiment with open Open Messaging on the open Open Web of openness."?P.S.
: Not a critique against openness.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29846631</id>
	<title>Re:Finish Thunderbird first?</title>
	<author>WuphonsReach</author>
	<datestamp>1256315940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because Thunderbird is one of the few good IMAP clients?<br>
<br>
(I've looked..)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because Thunderbird is one of the few good IMAP clients ?
( I 've looked.. )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because Thunderbird is one of the few good IMAP clients?
(I've looked..)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29842271</id>
	<title>Re:Finish Thunderbird first?</title>
	<author>jeffstar</author>
	<datestamp>1256224620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>what mail client do you use?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>what mail client do you use ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what mail client do you use?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29842465</id>
	<title>Supplier Coogi suit man,ED and CA Drawstring Pants</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256226780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> Welcome to our website:   Http://www.tntshoes.com</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; basketball shoes,men's shoes,sport shoes,air shoe,force shoe,shox shoe,max shoe,JD shoes and other fusion shoes<br>1)Small order and dropshipping avaliable<br>2) Various styles and color on our website<br>3)Our shoes are all coming with original boxes, tags and cards<br>4)The more you order, the lower price you will get<br>5)You can mix any items from our store together<br>6)shippment: (5-7 business days)</p><p>Our company have many other brand products,if you are interested in our products<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.contact me directly</p><p>OUR WEBSITE:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; YAHOO:shoppertrade@yahoo.com.cn</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; MSN:shoppertrade@hotmail.com</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Http://www.tntshoes.com</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Welcome to our website : Http : //www.tntshoes.com     basketball shoes,men 's shoes,sport shoes,air shoe,force shoe,shox shoe,max shoe,JD shoes and other fusion shoes1 ) Small order and dropshipping avaliable2 ) Various styles and color on our website3 ) Our shoes are all coming with original boxes , tags and cards4 ) The more you order , the lower price you will get5 ) You can mix any items from our store together6 ) shippment : ( 5-7 business days ) Our company have many other brand products,if you are interested in our products .contact me directlyOUR WEBSITE :                                                         YAHOO : shoppertrade @ yahoo.com.cn                                                                 MSN : shoppertrade @ hotmail.com                                                                     Http : //www.tntshoes.com</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Welcome to our website:   Http://www.tntshoes.com
    basketball shoes,men's shoes,sport shoes,air shoe,force shoe,shox shoe,max shoe,JD shoes and other fusion shoes1)Small order and dropshipping avaliable2) Various styles and color on our website3)Our shoes are all coming with original boxes, tags and cards4)The more you order, the lower price you will get5)You can mix any items from our store together6)shippment: (5-7 business days)Our company have many other brand products,if you are interested in our products .contact me directlyOUR WEBSITE:
                                                        YAHOO:shoppertrade@yahoo.com.cn
                                                                MSN:shoppertrade@hotmail.com
                                                                    Http://www.tntshoes.com</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_2224214.29843491</id>
	<title>Re:I hope that will be a non browser client</title>
	<author>smallfries</author>
	<datestamp>1256330940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sounds cool. I'm seeing some kind of voice interface to get around the lack of writing. To be honest it would be most useful as some sort of mobile platform, rather than desktop software. Then I could easily carry this voice communication around, and hope that it became pervasive enough that all of my friends did too. Although the email paradigm of bouncing messages off of each other works well it would be really good to have a real-time interface for voice between these mobile devices.</p><p>Perhaps a speaker, microphone and some buttons to select who I want to talk to. You know this could be really huge.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds cool .
I 'm seeing some kind of voice interface to get around the lack of writing .
To be honest it would be most useful as some sort of mobile platform , rather than desktop software .
Then I could easily carry this voice communication around , and hope that it became pervasive enough that all of my friends did too .
Although the email paradigm of bouncing messages off of each other works well it would be really good to have a real-time interface for voice between these mobile devices.Perhaps a speaker , microphone and some buttons to select who I want to talk to .
You know this could be really huge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds cool.
I'm seeing some kind of voice interface to get around the lack of writing.
To be honest it would be most useful as some sort of mobile platform, rather than desktop software.
Then I could easily carry this voice communication around, and hope that it became pervasive enough that all of my friends did too.
Although the email paradigm of bouncing messages off of each other works well it would be really good to have a real-time interface for voice between these mobile devices.Perhaps a speaker, microphone and some buttons to select who I want to talk to.
You know this could be really huge.</sentencetext>
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