<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_22_0125244</id>
	<title>AU Classification Board To Censor Mobile Apps</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1256202780000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>bennyboy64 writes <i>"The Australian Classification Board is <a href="http://www.itnews.com.au/News/158652,classification-board-seeks-to-censor-iphone-apps.aspx">seeking to censor mobile phone applications under its National Classification Scheme</a>. 'I recently wrote to the minister [Minister McDonald] regarding my concern that some so-called mobile phone applications, which can be purchased online or either downloaded to mobile phones or played online via mobile phone access, are not being submitted to the board for classification,' Australia's Classification Board director Donald McDonald told a Senate Estimates committee. I wonder if they know that there are over 80,000 applications on the iPhone platform alone?"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>bennyboy64 writes " The Australian Classification Board is seeking to censor mobile phone applications under its National Classification Scheme .
'I recently wrote to the minister [ Minister McDonald ] regarding my concern that some so-called mobile phone applications , which can be purchased online or either downloaded to mobile phones or played online via mobile phone access , are not being submitted to the board for classification, ' Australia 's Classification Board director Donald McDonald told a Senate Estimates committee .
I wonder if they know that there are over 80,000 applications on the iPhone platform alone ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>bennyboy64 writes "The Australian Classification Board is seeking to censor mobile phone applications under its National Classification Scheme.
'I recently wrote to the minister [Minister McDonald] regarding my concern that some so-called mobile phone applications, which can be purchased online or either downloaded to mobile phones or played online via mobile phone access, are not being submitted to the board for classification,' Australia's Classification Board director Donald McDonald told a Senate Estimates committee.
I wonder if they know that there are over 80,000 applications on the iPhone platform alone?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833627</id>
	<title>Re:This is bad, how?</title>
	<author>Siridar</author>
	<datestamp>1256215500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You fail to understand how the ratings board works in Australia - certainly, the ratings board says they're not "censors" but anything that is "RC" - refused classification - cannot be legally distributed. In that context, it cannot be called anything else *but* censorship.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You fail to understand how the ratings board works in Australia - certainly , the ratings board says they 're not " censors " but anything that is " RC " - refused classification - can not be legally distributed .
In that context , it can not be called anything else * but * censorship .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You fail to understand how the ratings board works in Australia - certainly, the ratings board says they're not "censors" but anything that is "RC" - refused classification - cannot be legally distributed.
In that context, it cannot be called anything else *but* censorship.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833111</id>
	<title>Re:Go censorship!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256208060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There may well be 80,000+ apps for the iPhone and a rapidly expanding number of apps on Android, WinMobile, WebOS, Meamo and Symbian but surely that is the point. This is about a quango seeking to expand its influence as it sees the content matter that it originally was set up to certify becoming increasingly less relevant in the exploding world of multimedia, always on (and available) platforms and distribution channels. It is a pure matter of self interest and survival.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There may well be 80,000 + apps for the iPhone and a rapidly expanding number of apps on Android , WinMobile , WebOS , Meamo and Symbian but surely that is the point .
This is about a quango seeking to expand its influence as it sees the content matter that it originally was set up to certify becoming increasingly less relevant in the exploding world of multimedia , always on ( and available ) platforms and distribution channels .
It is a pure matter of self interest and survival .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There may well be 80,000+ apps for the iPhone and a rapidly expanding number of apps on Android, WinMobile, WebOS, Meamo and Symbian but surely that is the point.
This is about a quango seeking to expand its influence as it sees the content matter that it originally was set up to certify becoming increasingly less relevant in the exploding world of multimedia, always on (and available) platforms and distribution channels.
It is a pure matter of self interest and survival.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833561</id>
	<title>Re:This is bad, how?</title>
	<author>srjh</author>
	<datestamp>1256214360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This is not censorship: this is rating</p></div><p>Unfortunately in Australia, it is. If something is refused a classification, it's banned.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is not censorship : this is ratingUnfortunately in Australia , it is .
If something is refused a classification , it 's banned .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is not censorship: this is ratingUnfortunately in Australia, it is.
If something is refused a classification, it's banned.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833461</id>
	<title>it could go this way</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256212740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Application Censored: you need to be under 18 years old to use it</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Application Censored : you need to be under 18 years old to use it</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Application Censored: you need to be under 18 years old to use it</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29834287</id>
	<title>Re:This is bad, how?</title>
	<author>Chris Mattern</author>
	<datestamp>1256220720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>This is not censorship: this is rating</p></div></blockquote><p>And stuff that doesn't get the right rating can't be sold.  That IS censorship, bucko.</p><blockquote><div><p>as the content in question remains available.</p></div></blockquote><p>But it doesn't.  This isn't like the US's ESRB (with which I have no problem, incidentally).  This is a *government* rating system, and stuff the rating board doesn't like gets legally banned.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is not censorship : this is ratingAnd stuff that does n't get the right rating ca n't be sold .
That IS censorship , bucko.as the content in question remains available.But it does n't .
This is n't like the US 's ESRB ( with which I have no problem , incidentally ) .
This is a * government * rating system , and stuff the rating board does n't like gets legally banned .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is not censorship: this is ratingAnd stuff that doesn't get the right rating can't be sold.
That IS censorship, bucko.as the content in question remains available.But it doesn't.
This isn't like the US's ESRB (with which I have no problem, incidentally).
This is a *government* rating system, and stuff the rating board doesn't like gets legally banned.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29834643</id>
	<title>Re:Go censorship!</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1256223300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And god knows how many apps for the <i>2 billion</i> Java phones out there, as well as all the phones that have been around for years before the Iphone. Of course, it's understandable we wouldn't know about them, as Slashdot only gives coverage to one mobile phone, and otherwise ignores the industry.</p><p>(Even censorship stories now have to have the "On Your Iphone" tag, as if to hype it up?)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And god knows how many apps for the 2 billion Java phones out there , as well as all the phones that have been around for years before the Iphone .
Of course , it 's understandable we would n't know about them , as Slashdot only gives coverage to one mobile phone , and otherwise ignores the industry .
( Even censorship stories now have to have the " On Your Iphone " tag , as if to hype it up ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And god knows how many apps for the 2 billion Java phones out there, as well as all the phones that have been around for years before the Iphone.
Of course, it's understandable we wouldn't know about them, as Slashdot only gives coverage to one mobile phone, and otherwise ignores the industry.
(Even censorship stories now have to have the "On Your Iphone" tag, as if to hype it up?
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29836615</id>
	<title>Re:This is bad, how?</title>
	<author>moxley</author>
	<datestamp>1256232780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Rating is one thing - but from what I have heard about how australia handles video games, they actually reject them or force them to be changed...THAT is censorship, and if they'll do THAT with something as big budget as a console video game, they'll do it to a little mobile app.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Rating is one thing - but from what I have heard about how australia handles video games , they actually reject them or force them to be changed...THAT is censorship , and if they 'll do THAT with something as big budget as a console video game , they 'll do it to a little mobile app .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rating is one thing - but from what I have heard about how australia handles video games, they actually reject them or force them to be changed...THAT is censorship, and if they'll do THAT with something as big budget as a console video game, they'll do it to a little mobile app.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833087</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29834351</id>
	<title>Re:the Commonwealth Censorship Ministery</title>
	<author>Chris Mattern</author>
	<datestamp>1256221140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Australians have access to games that I HAVEN'T APPROVED OF!  This is absolutely intolerable!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Australians have access to games that I HAVE N'T APPROVED OF !
This is absolutely intolerable !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Australians have access to games that I HAVEN'T APPROVED OF!
This is absolutely intolerable!
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29834955</id>
	<title>Penetration!</title>
	<author>GypC</author>
	<datestamp>1256225400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>[Gilbert Huph]They're penetrating the bureaucracy![/Gilbert Huph]</htmltext>
<tokenext>[ Gilbert Huph ] They 're penetrating the bureaucracy !
[ /Gilbert Huph ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[Gilbert Huph]They're penetrating the bureaucracy!
[/Gilbert Huph]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833909</id>
	<title>Re:Go censorship!</title>
	<author>Jaysyn</author>
	<datestamp>1256218020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not years, decades.  Assuming they can completely review 2 apps a day (paperwork, government workers inefficiency, etc), including weekends, it will take them 109+ years to get thru them all.  Even at 4 a day it's almost 55 years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not years , decades .
Assuming they can completely review 2 apps a day ( paperwork , government workers inefficiency , etc ) , including weekends , it will take them 109 + years to get thru them all .
Even at 4 a day it 's almost 55 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not years, decades.
Assuming they can completely review 2 apps a day (paperwork, government workers inefficiency, etc), including weekends, it will take them 109+ years to get thru them all.
Even at 4 a day it's almost 55 years.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29842909</id>
	<title>Who to polititions work for?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256233920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This smell of conroy-ism. Shouldn't the governments minority web filter save us from these online threats to our decency?</p><p>Fortunately my ability to decide what offends me still works; shame I cant choose not to download their policy...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This smell of conroy-ism .
Should n't the governments minority web filter save us from these online threats to our decency ? Fortunately my ability to decide what offends me still works ; shame I cant choose not to download their policy.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This smell of conroy-ism.
Shouldn't the governments minority web filter save us from these online threats to our decency?Fortunately my ability to decide what offends me still works; shame I cant choose not to download their policy...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833503</id>
	<title>Re:poor kid</title>
	<author>teh kurisu</author>
	<datestamp>1256213340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He has the perfect name for his job.  He can disprove any arguments that parents should be responsible for their child's upbringing, simply by introducing himself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He has the perfect name for his job .
He can disprove any arguments that parents should be responsible for their child 's upbringing , simply by introducing himself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He has the perfect name for his job.
He can disprove any arguments that parents should be responsible for their child's upbringing, simply by introducing himself.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833225</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29834583</id>
	<title>Re:This is bad, how?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256222880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>This is not censorship: this is rating, like done with movies and so already.</i></p><p>In the AU, the rating system, like is done with movies and so already, *IS* censorship.</p><p>This isn't like where they stick a label with an age restriction or suggestion on it like you are used to in the US</p><p>One rating level that exists is "Not allowed to sell in stores at all"<br>As long as that entry exists as a rating classification, it is censorship, plain and simple.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is not censorship : this is rating , like done with movies and so already.In the AU , the rating system , like is done with movies and so already , * IS * censorship.This is n't like where they stick a label with an age restriction or suggestion on it like you are used to in the USOne rating level that exists is " Not allowed to sell in stores at all " As long as that entry exists as a rating classification , it is censorship , plain and simple .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is not censorship: this is rating, like done with movies and so already.In the AU, the rating system, like is done with movies and so already, *IS* censorship.This isn't like where they stick a label with an age restriction or suggestion on it like you are used to in the USOne rating level that exists is "Not allowed to sell in stores at all"As long as that entry exists as a rating classification, it is censorship, plain and simple.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29837831</id>
	<title>Anyone else</title>
	<author>ThatsNotPudding</author>
	<datestamp>1256237580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>instantly wonder what kind of shoes Donald McDonald wears?<br> <br>One ticket to Karmic Hell, please.</htmltext>
<tokenext>instantly wonder what kind of shoes Donald McDonald wears ?
One ticket to Karmic Hell , please .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>instantly wonder what kind of shoes Donald McDonald wears?
One ticket to Karmic Hell, please.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833273</id>
	<title>/. uses 0 class when censoring readers' input</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256210280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>goat sex is ok/fine, butt don't mention the g word, or anything positive pertaining to the spirit, or negative re: robbIE's advertisers by whose hand he has become a willing hostage, like patty hearst, except he gets paid. it's all in several of the manuals. the lights are coming up all over now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>goat sex is ok/fine , butt do n't mention the g word , or anything positive pertaining to the spirit , or negative re : robbIE 's advertisers by whose hand he has become a willing hostage , like patty hearst , except he gets paid .
it 's all in several of the manuals .
the lights are coming up all over now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>goat sex is ok/fine, butt don't mention the g word, or anything positive pertaining to the spirit, or negative re: robbIE's advertisers by whose hand he has become a willing hostage, like patty hearst, except he gets paid.
it's all in several of the manuals.
the lights are coming up all over now.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29842407</id>
	<title>Re:Australia used to be cool</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256226000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I doubt its anywhere near as bad as the media makes it out to be. Mostly all we hear about is the theoretical.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I doubt its anywhere near as bad as the media makes it out to be .
Mostly all we hear about is the theoretical .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I doubt its anywhere near as bad as the media makes it out to be.
Mostly all we hear about is the theoretical.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833235</id>
	<title>Re:This is bad, how?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256209500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The content doesn't remain as content can be classified "refused classification" in Australia and therefore banned.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The content does n't remain as content can be classified " refused classification " in Australia and therefore banned .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The content doesn't remain as content can be classified "refused classification" in Australia and therefore banned.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29834153</id>
	<title>Re:like hell it isn't</title>
	<author>Turzyx</author>
	<datestamp>1256219760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>anything that is refused classification is unable to be sold</p></div><p>While I don't disagree with you entirely, I always thought rating systems for films, games, etc. were (generally) quite fair; the products that have been "banned" typically feature the very worst and deplorable content around. Obviously there are exceptions to this but no system is perfect, especially ones involving humans.</p><p>When discussions of censorship or classification of content arise, it's quite easy to be given the impression that the system is restrictive. I believe it's quite the opposite (caveat: if done properly), censorship sets you free; you are free to live in a society that doesn't tolerate despicable material. If done properly.</p><p>Mind you this is Australia again.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>anything that is refused classification is unable to be soldWhile I do n't disagree with you entirely , I always thought rating systems for films , games , etc .
were ( generally ) quite fair ; the products that have been " banned " typically feature the very worst and deplorable content around .
Obviously there are exceptions to this but no system is perfect , especially ones involving humans.When discussions of censorship or classification of content arise , it 's quite easy to be given the impression that the system is restrictive .
I believe it 's quite the opposite ( caveat : if done properly ) , censorship sets you free ; you are free to live in a society that does n't tolerate despicable material .
If done properly.Mind you this is Australia again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>anything that is refused classification is unable to be soldWhile I don't disagree with you entirely, I always thought rating systems for films, games, etc.
were (generally) quite fair; the products that have been "banned" typically feature the very worst and deplorable content around.
Obviously there are exceptions to this but no system is perfect, especially ones involving humans.When discussions of censorship or classification of content arise, it's quite easy to be given the impression that the system is restrictive.
I believe it's quite the opposite (caveat: if done properly), censorship sets you free; you are free to live in a society that doesn't tolerate despicable material.
If done properly.Mind you this is Australia again.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29834811</id>
	<title>Re:Go censorship!</title>
	<author>friday\_drag.net</author>
	<datestamp>1256224560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There could be a new money making method in this, need a few bucks?</p><p>1) Write new iphone app.<br>2) Price it quite high.<br>3) Australian Classification Board buys it to review.<br>4) Repeat as needed<br>5) Profit.</p><p>Don't even need the ???? step.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There could be a new money making method in this , need a few bucks ? 1 ) Write new iphone app.2 ) Price it quite high.3 ) Australian Classification Board buys it to review.4 ) Repeat as needed5 ) Profit.Do n't even need the ? ? ? ?
step .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There could be a new money making method in this, need a few bucks?1) Write new iphone app.2) Price it quite high.3) Australian Classification Board buys it to review.4) Repeat as needed5) Profit.Don't even need the ????
step.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833225</id>
	<title>poor kid</title>
	<author>redfire111</author>
	<datestamp>1256209320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Donald McDonald?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Donald McDonald ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Donald McDonald?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833383</id>
	<title>Re:The end of indie iphone games in Australia</title>
	<author>Thanshin</author>
	<datestamp>1256211960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>indie developers in Australia</p></div><p>You mean "all indie developers [in the world] when trying to sell in Australia", right?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>indie developers in AustraliaYou mean " all indie developers [ in the world ] when trying to sell in Australia " , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>indie developers in AustraliaYou mean "all indie developers [in the world] when trying to sell in Australia", right?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29840621</id>
	<title>Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256208540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why does it need to be censored? Desktop, Laptop and even netbook apps dont, but phone apps do?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why does it need to be censored ?
Desktop , Laptop and even netbook apps dont , but phone apps do ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why does it need to be censored?
Desktop, Laptop and even netbook apps dont, but phone apps do?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833179</id>
	<title>you Fail I7?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256208780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">To be about doing 7000 0sers of [tuxedo.org], of playing your The mobo blew That *BSD is its readers and way. It used to be FLY...DON'T FEAR common knowledge</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>To be about doing 7000 0sers of [ tuxedo.org ] , of playing your The mobo blew That * BSD is its readers and way .
It used to be FLY...DO N'T FEAR common knowledge [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To be about doing 7000 0sers of [tuxedo.org], of playing your The mobo blew That *BSD is its readers and way.
It used to be FLY...DON'T FEAR common knowledge [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833155</id>
	<title>Politicians</title>
	<author>Dorsai65</author>
	<datestamp>1256208420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I wonder if they know that there are over 80,000 applications on the iPhone platform alone?</p></div></blockquote><p>Feh. Politicians typically lose track of numbers once they get past however many fingers and/or toes they happen to have. I pity the poor <em>staffers</em> that are going to have to do the actual work...
</p><p>When I visited Oz (ca. 1976), it seemed like a pretty decent country. Too bad the government there has opted to go the way of England.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if they know that there are over 80,000 applications on the iPhone platform alone ? Feh .
Politicians typically lose track of numbers once they get past however many fingers and/or toes they happen to have .
I pity the poor staffers that are going to have to do the actual work.. . When I visited Oz ( ca .
1976 ) , it seemed like a pretty decent country .
Too bad the government there has opted to go the way of England .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if they know that there are over 80,000 applications on the iPhone platform alone?Feh.
Politicians typically lose track of numbers once they get past however many fingers and/or toes they happen to have.
I pity the poor staffers that are going to have to do the actual work...
When I visited Oz (ca.
1976), it seemed like a pretty decent country.
Too bad the government there has opted to go the way of England.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29842697</id>
	<title>Re:His parents must have been Catholic ...</title>
	<author>Macgrrl</author>
	<datestamp>1256230320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hand on my heart - this is true.</p><p>I used to work at a company that had the following names on the staff directory: Wayne Carr, Wayne Kerr, Wayne King.</p><p>Either their parents never said the full name out aloud beofre the christening, or they were particularly mean spirited.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hand on my heart - this is true.I used to work at a company that had the following names on the staff directory : Wayne Carr , Wayne Kerr , Wayne King.Either their parents never said the full name out aloud beofre the christening , or they were particularly mean spirited .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hand on my heart - this is true.I used to work at a company that had the following names on the staff directory: Wayne Carr, Wayne Kerr, Wayne King.Either their parents never said the full name out aloud beofre the christening, or they were particularly mean spirited.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833591</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29835749</id>
	<title>Re:This is bad, how?</title>
	<author>mrdoogee</author>
	<datestamp>1256228880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not if the ratings system is inherently flawed.<br><br>For instance in the US, You can show grisly murders and torture and can safely count on a "R" rating. However numerous comedies and dramas who's only crime is using foul language will have to edit and re-edit just to avoid a NC-17 rating. The NC-17 rating of course is poison because no major chain will show it, even though if the rating were changed to "R" with no edits done, they'd be happy to show it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not if the ratings system is inherently flawed.For instance in the US , You can show grisly murders and torture and can safely count on a " R " rating .
However numerous comedies and dramas who 's only crime is using foul language will have to edit and re-edit just to avoid a NC-17 rating .
The NC-17 rating of course is poison because no major chain will show it , even though if the rating were changed to " R " with no edits done , they 'd be happy to show it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not if the ratings system is inherently flawed.For instance in the US, You can show grisly murders and torture and can safely count on a "R" rating.
However numerous comedies and dramas who's only crime is using foul language will have to edit and re-edit just to avoid a NC-17 rating.
The NC-17 rating of course is poison because no major chain will show it, even though if the rating were changed to "R" with no edits done, they'd be happy to show it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833087</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29834237</id>
	<title>Re:Go censorship!</title>
	<author>commodore64\_love</author>
	<datestamp>1256220300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"The obvious solution is to censor everything, and only allow apps to be released to the public AFTER the government has reviewed them.  This is a reasonable and prudent solution." - government manager at the ACB</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" The obvious solution is to censor everything , and only allow apps to be released to the public AFTER the government has reviewed them .
This is a reasonable and prudent solution .
" - government manager at the ACB</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The obvious solution is to censor everything, and only allow apps to be released to the public AFTER the government has reviewed them.
This is a reasonable and prudent solution.
" - government manager at the ACB</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833909</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29834081</id>
	<title>maybe i'm amazed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256219340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i can't believe it. australia is turning into a desert wasteland due to climate change, while their politicians are coming up with stupid plans to waste time and energy and money and human resources on "classifying" applications? they truly deserve the mad max world that's headed their way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i ca n't believe it .
australia is turning into a desert wasteland due to climate change , while their politicians are coming up with stupid plans to waste time and energy and money and human resources on " classifying " applications ?
they truly deserve the mad max world that 's headed their way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i can't believe it.
australia is turning into a desert wasteland due to climate change, while their politicians are coming up with stupid plans to waste time and energy and money and human resources on "classifying" applications?
they truly deserve the mad max world that's headed their way.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833431</id>
	<title>Re:Wasted sarcasm</title>
	<author>Gadget\_Guy</author>
	<datestamp>1256212440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They should also review and classify all websites on the internet as they can be downloaded to mobile phones as well</p></div><p>I'm not sure if you are aware, but that is the direction that they are heading with their <a href="http://www.dlc.asn.au/" title="dlc.asn.au">mandatory internet filtering scheme</a> [dlc.asn.au] at the ISP level. It's a completely dumb and unworkable idea, so therefore the government loves it!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They should also review and classify all websites on the internet as they can be downloaded to mobile phones as wellI 'm not sure if you are aware , but that is the direction that they are heading with their mandatory internet filtering scheme [ dlc.asn.au ] at the ISP level .
It 's a completely dumb and unworkable idea , so therefore the government loves it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They should also review and classify all websites on the internet as they can be downloaded to mobile phones as wellI'm not sure if you are aware, but that is the direction that they are heading with their mandatory internet filtering scheme [dlc.asn.au] at the ISP level.
It's a completely dumb and unworkable idea, so therefore the government loves it!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833101</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29834095</id>
	<title>Re:His parents must have been Catholic ...</title>
	<author>u38cg</author>
	<datestamp>1256219400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In parts of the world that don't perceive names in the same fairly narrow way that you do, a name like Donald MacDonald is fairly unremarkable.  Slightly remarkable, but not sufficiently so as to incite speculation on the motives of the parents.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In parts of the world that do n't perceive names in the same fairly narrow way that you do , a name like Donald MacDonald is fairly unremarkable .
Slightly remarkable , but not sufficiently so as to incite speculation on the motives of the parents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In parts of the world that don't perceive names in the same fairly narrow way that you do, a name like Donald MacDonald is fairly unremarkable.
Slightly remarkable, but not sufficiently so as to incite speculation on the motives of the parents.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833591</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29841105</id>
	<title>Re:This is bad, how?</title>
	<author>crafty.munchkin</author>
	<datestamp>1256211780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When they start to treat us like adults, and give us an R18+ rating, I'll start to care. I'm sick of having to pirate stuff that has been refused classification...</htmltext>
<tokenext>When they start to treat us like adults , and give us an R18 + rating , I 'll start to care .
I 'm sick of having to pirate stuff that has been refused classification.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When they start to treat us like adults, and give us an R18+ rating, I'll start to care.
I'm sick of having to pirate stuff that has been refused classification...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833087</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833421</id>
	<title>get the truth here!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256212380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>gas prices have gone up 20 cents in two weeks under obama. where are his oil wells? he must be in the pocket of big oil to let this happen.</htmltext>
<tokenext>gas prices have gone up 20 cents in two weeks under obama .
where are his oil wells ?
he must be in the pocket of big oil to let this happen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>gas prices have gone up 20 cents in two weeks under obama.
where are his oil wells?
he must be in the pocket of big oil to let this happen.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833233</id>
	<title>Proposed Categories</title>
	<author>Ukab the Great</author>
	<datestamp>1256209500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No need to worry yet. Perhaps the categories will be</p><p>1. Boobies<br>2. Extra Boobies<br>3. Mediocre girl-girl<br>4. Wicked Awesome girl-girl<br>5. Why would you pay 99 cents for that boring thing, mate?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No need to worry yet .
Perhaps the categories will be1 .
Boobies2. Extra Boobies3 .
Mediocre girl-girl4 .
Wicked Awesome girl-girl5 .
Why would you pay 99 cents for that boring thing , mate ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No need to worry yet.
Perhaps the categories will be1.
Boobies2. Extra Boobies3.
Mediocre girl-girl4.
Wicked Awesome girl-girl5.
Why would you pay 99 cents for that boring thing, mate?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29839411</id>
	<title>Re:This is bad, how?</title>
	<author>Toonol</author>
	<datestamp>1256202000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My understanding is that in much of the EU, items cannot legally be sold without a rating; and there have been cases of items that are refused a rating.  That would make it truly censorship.<br> <br>

Or am I getting the EU confused with Australia?</htmltext>
<tokenext>My understanding is that in much of the EU , items can not legally be sold without a rating ; and there have been cases of items that are refused a rating .
That would make it truly censorship .
Or am I getting the EU confused with Australia ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My understanding is that in much of the EU, items cannot legally be sold without a rating; and there have been cases of items that are refused a rating.
That would make it truly censorship.
Or am I getting the EU confused with Australia?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833087</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833591</id>
	<title>His parents must have been Catholic ...</title>
	<author>cheesecake23</author>
	<datestamp>1256214960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can only imagine that Mr. and Mrs. McDonald were forbidden to use contraceptives and were *not* happy to have the baby. What other reason can there be for the cruelty in naming their son Donald?
<br> <br>
This is right up there with the American soccer player in the 1994 World Cup called Tom Dooley<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can only imagine that Mr. and Mrs. McDonald were forbidden to use contraceptives and were * not * happy to have the baby .
What other reason can there be for the cruelty in naming their son Donald ?
This is right up there with the American soccer player in the 1994 World Cup called Tom Dooley .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can only imagine that Mr. and Mrs. McDonald were forbidden to use contraceptives and were *not* happy to have the baby.
What other reason can there be for the cruelty in naming their son Donald?
This is right up there with the American soccer player in the 1994 World Cup called Tom Dooley ...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29834489</id>
	<title>Re:This is bad, how?</title>
	<author>stephanruby</author>
	<datestamp>1256222160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This is not censorship: this is rating, like done with movies and so already. And this kind of rating can be a great help for parents to rate suitability of some game/movie for their kids.</p></div><p>Apple already rates iphone apps. Actually, the developers rate their own apps, and they get penalized pretty heavily if they miscategorize/misrate their app. It's not a perfect system, for instance somehow the "shaking baby" app still got through (but it was quickly pulled off the market).</p><p>What actual real problem are you trying to solve here?</p><p>This is a digital medium. Apps get updated quickly, but apps can also be removed just as quickly (which is not the case for in-store games). As mobile apps take advantage more and more of the network/internet connectivity, they're becoming more and more like web sites, and they'll get updated even more quickly, so even if you manage to hire enough people to rate all of them, the rating will become stale as time goes on.</p><p>Do you really want a perfect solution for your children? Why can't you just live with Apple's current rules? combined perhaps with some occasional spot-checking? </p><p>Does Australia really have an unlimited amount of money for hiring all those reviewers you want? And isn't there the real risk of Australia being left behind everybody else technologically, if they really do try to prevent every new app, every new platform, from entering their marketplace until they got the proper ratings/reviews for every snapshot/versions of everything they have? Again, I've got to ask. What's the real problem you are trying to solve? What are the misrated apps that are causing you problems? How many real Australian children are you really trying to "save" that would have installed that app (or those apps) if not for this extra piece of hypothetical protective legislation??</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is not censorship : this is rating , like done with movies and so already .
And this kind of rating can be a great help for parents to rate suitability of some game/movie for their kids.Apple already rates iphone apps .
Actually , the developers rate their own apps , and they get penalized pretty heavily if they miscategorize/misrate their app .
It 's not a perfect system , for instance somehow the " shaking baby " app still got through ( but it was quickly pulled off the market ) .What actual real problem are you trying to solve here ? This is a digital medium .
Apps get updated quickly , but apps can also be removed just as quickly ( which is not the case for in-store games ) .
As mobile apps take advantage more and more of the network/internet connectivity , they 're becoming more and more like web sites , and they 'll get updated even more quickly , so even if you manage to hire enough people to rate all of them , the rating will become stale as time goes on.Do you really want a perfect solution for your children ?
Why ca n't you just live with Apple 's current rules ?
combined perhaps with some occasional spot-checking ?
Does Australia really have an unlimited amount of money for hiring all those reviewers you want ?
And is n't there the real risk of Australia being left behind everybody else technologically , if they really do try to prevent every new app , every new platform , from entering their marketplace until they got the proper ratings/reviews for every snapshot/versions of everything they have ?
Again , I 've got to ask .
What 's the real problem you are trying to solve ?
What are the misrated apps that are causing you problems ?
How many real Australian children are you really trying to " save " that would have installed that app ( or those apps ) if not for this extra piece of hypothetical protective legislation ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is not censorship: this is rating, like done with movies and so already.
And this kind of rating can be a great help for parents to rate suitability of some game/movie for their kids.Apple already rates iphone apps.
Actually, the developers rate their own apps, and they get penalized pretty heavily if they miscategorize/misrate their app.
It's not a perfect system, for instance somehow the "shaking baby" app still got through (but it was quickly pulled off the market).What actual real problem are you trying to solve here?This is a digital medium.
Apps get updated quickly, but apps can also be removed just as quickly (which is not the case for in-store games).
As mobile apps take advantage more and more of the network/internet connectivity, they're becoming more and more like web sites, and they'll get updated even more quickly, so even if you manage to hire enough people to rate all of them, the rating will become stale as time goes on.Do you really want a perfect solution for your children?
Why can't you just live with Apple's current rules?
combined perhaps with some occasional spot-checking?
Does Australia really have an unlimited amount of money for hiring all those reviewers you want?
And isn't there the real risk of Australia being left behind everybody else technologically, if they really do try to prevent every new app, every new platform, from entering their marketplace until they got the proper ratings/reviews for every snapshot/versions of everything they have?
Again, I've got to ask.
What's the real problem you are trying to solve?
What are the misrated apps that are causing you problems?
How many real Australian children are you really trying to "save" that would have installed that app (or those apps) if not for this extra piece of hypothetical protective legislation?
?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833087</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833877</id>
	<title>Donald McDonald?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256217780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>His parents must have really hated him...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>His parents must have really hated him.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>His parents must have really hated him...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833513</id>
	<title>Re:Proposed Categories</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1256213460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You forgot:<br>6. Fuck I'm so dumb I think an application can turn my iPhone into X-ray glasses. Why yes I do give you permission to spam me into oblivion at $5 per message.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You forgot : 6 .
Fuck I 'm so dumb I think an application can turn my iPhone into X-ray glasses .
Why yes I do give you permission to spam me into oblivion at $ 5 per message .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You forgot:6.
Fuck I'm so dumb I think an application can turn my iPhone into X-ray glasses.
Why yes I do give you permission to spam me into oblivion at $5 per message.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833233</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833101</id>
	<title>Wasted sarcasm</title>
	<author>asliarun</author>
	<datestamp>1256207940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think they're heading in the right direction. They should also review and classify all websites on the internet as they can be downloaded to mobile phones as well. Shockingly, these so-called internet applications can even be downloaded to computers in even higher resolution. I wonder if they know that there are much more than 80,000 internet applications on just the world wide web alone. On top of this, they get regularly updated! Should keep a committee busy for a while, I think.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think they 're heading in the right direction .
They should also review and classify all websites on the internet as they can be downloaded to mobile phones as well .
Shockingly , these so-called internet applications can even be downloaded to computers in even higher resolution .
I wonder if they know that there are much more than 80,000 internet applications on just the world wide web alone .
On top of this , they get regularly updated !
Should keep a committee busy for a while , I think .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think they're heading in the right direction.
They should also review and classify all websites on the internet as they can be downloaded to mobile phones as well.
Shockingly, these so-called internet applications can even be downloaded to computers in even higher resolution.
I wonder if they know that there are much more than 80,000 internet applications on just the world wide web alone.
On top of this, they get regularly updated!
Should keep a committee busy for a while, I think.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29859109</id>
	<title>Re:Australia used to be cool</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1256374800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Their spiders still are pretty cool. Unfortunately, they don't seem to have planned to take over the country. I would welcome them more, that the current government. ^^</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Their spiders still are pretty cool .
Unfortunately , they do n't seem to have planned to take over the country .
I would welcome them more , that the current government .
^ ^</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Their spiders still are pretty cool.
Unfortunately, they don't seem to have planned to take over the country.
I would welcome them more, that the current government.
^^</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29834293</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29834293</id>
	<title>Australia used to be cool</title>
	<author>sukotto</author>
	<datestamp>1256220780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why don't we ever hear any GOOD news out of Australia? Is it just the media companies (and here I include<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. ) only talking about the shitty stuff they're doing<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... or is it really that shitty there now?

</p><p>Australia used to be cool.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do n't we ever hear any GOOD news out of Australia ?
Is it just the media companies ( and here I include / .
) only talking about the shitty stuff they 're doing ... or is it really that shitty there now ?
Australia used to be cool .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why don't we ever hear any GOOD news out of Australia?
Is it just the media companies (and here I include /.
) only talking about the shitty stuff they're doing ... or is it really that shitty there now?
Australia used to be cool.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833073</id>
	<title>I'll get right on that</title>
	<author>serps</author>
	<datestamp>1256207700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> I wonder if they know that there are over 80,000 applications on the iPhone platform alone?"</p></div></blockquote><p>

Maybe I'll call him on my <i>so-called mobile phone</i> and let him know.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if they know that there are over 80,000 applications on the iPhone platform alone ?
" Maybe I 'll call him on my so-called mobile phone and let him know .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I wonder if they know that there are over 80,000 applications on the iPhone platform alone?
"

Maybe I'll call him on my so-called mobile phone and let him know.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833587</id>
	<title>Already planned in South Korea</title>
	<author>AdamInParadise</author>
	<datestamp>1256214900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1) The South Korea's Games Rating Board is supposed to certify every game.<br>2) The Jesus Phone is finally about to be launched in South Korea and it will be widely popular for lots of reasons (you can trust me on this one).</p><p>But because of 1), the <a href="http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2009/10/133\_52644.html" title="koreatimes.co.kr">South Korean AppStore will not include games...</a> [koreatimes.co.kr]</p><p>Yes, a state can do that.</p><p>[Already posted in a similar story a few days ago.]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) The South Korea 's Games Rating Board is supposed to certify every game.2 ) The Jesus Phone is finally about to be launched in South Korea and it will be widely popular for lots of reasons ( you can trust me on this one ) .But because of 1 ) , the South Korean AppStore will not include games... [ koreatimes.co.kr ] Yes , a state can do that .
[ Already posted in a similar story a few days ago .
]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) The South Korea's Games Rating Board is supposed to certify every game.2) The Jesus Phone is finally about to be launched in South Korea and it will be widely popular for lots of reasons (you can trust me on this one).But because of 1), the South Korean AppStore will not include games... [koreatimes.co.kr]Yes, a state can do that.
[Already posted in a similar story a few days ago.
]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833087</id>
	<title>This is bad, how?</title>
	<author>wvmarle</author>
	<datestamp>1256207760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is not censorship: this is rating, like done with movies and so already. And this kind of rating can be a great help for parents to rate suitability of some game/movie for their kids. So I don't see this as a bad thing, and it is definitely not censorship as the content in question remains available.
</p><p>Now how they are going to process and rate the tens of thousands of games available (tfa talks about games, not all applications) that is another matter. They may need to hire some extra staff.
</p><p>Still I think it is basically a good thing, as long as it is just rating, allowing the buyer to get a better idea what they want to buy. Just like going to the movies, the rating gives you an extra clue on the kind of movie you are going to watch, or in this case what application you are going to buy. Or which you may want to pass on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is not censorship : this is rating , like done with movies and so already .
And this kind of rating can be a great help for parents to rate suitability of some game/movie for their kids .
So I do n't see this as a bad thing , and it is definitely not censorship as the content in question remains available .
Now how they are going to process and rate the tens of thousands of games available ( tfa talks about games , not all applications ) that is another matter .
They may need to hire some extra staff .
Still I think it is basically a good thing , as long as it is just rating , allowing the buyer to get a better idea what they want to buy .
Just like going to the movies , the rating gives you an extra clue on the kind of movie you are going to watch , or in this case what application you are going to buy .
Or which you may want to pass on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is not censorship: this is rating, like done with movies and so already.
And this kind of rating can be a great help for parents to rate suitability of some game/movie for their kids.
So I don't see this as a bad thing, and it is definitely not censorship as the content in question remains available.
Now how they are going to process and rate the tens of thousands of games available (tfa talks about games, not all applications) that is another matter.
They may need to hire some extra staff.
Still I think it is basically a good thing, as long as it is just rating, allowing the buyer to get a better idea what they want to buy.
Just like going to the movies, the rating gives you an extra clue on the kind of movie you are going to watch, or in this case what application you are going to buy.
Or which you may want to pass on.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29834607</id>
	<title>Re:Go censorship!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256223000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You know I used to think Aussie's were cool. Seems like all the morons are moving there instead that or the inbreeding of all the original prisoners is starting to surface.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You know I used to think Aussie 's were cool .
Seems like all the morons are moving there instead that or the inbreeding of all the original prisoners is starting to surface .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know I used to think Aussie's were cool.
Seems like all the morons are moving there instead that or the inbreeding of all the original prisoners is starting to surface.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833185</id>
	<title>the Commonwealth Censorship Ministery</title>
	<author>MRe\_nl</author>
	<datestamp>1256208840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"The Australian Classification Board has written to Government expressing concerns that mobile phone applications are being made available in Australia without being subject to a ratings process."</p><p>Government: magically transforming self-righteous assholes into civil servants.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" The Australian Classification Board has written to Government expressing concerns that mobile phone applications are being made available in Australia without being subject to a ratings process .
" Government : magically transforming self-righteous assholes into civil servants .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The Australian Classification Board has written to Government expressing concerns that mobile phone applications are being made available in Australia without being subject to a ratings process.
"Government: magically transforming self-righteous assholes into civil servants.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833531</id>
	<title>Donald McDonald</title>
	<author>mambodog</author>
	<datestamp>1256213820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...isn't that what they call Ronald <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald\_McDonald#Localisation\_in\_other\_countries" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">in Japan?</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>...is n't that what they call Ronald in Japan ?
[ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...isn't that what they call Ronald in Japan?
[wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833063</id>
	<title>Go censorship!</title>
	<author>cbope</author>
	<datestamp>1256207580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just think, it will likely take them YEARS just to catch up with all the iPhone mobile apps. The best thing we can hope for is their heads will implode from all the "reviewing".</p><p>Just when I thought the nanny state of the UK could not be topped...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just think , it will likely take them YEARS just to catch up with all the iPhone mobile apps .
The best thing we can hope for is their heads will implode from all the " reviewing " .Just when I thought the nanny state of the UK could not be topped.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just think, it will likely take them YEARS just to catch up with all the iPhone mobile apps.
The best thing we can hope for is their heads will implode from all the "reviewing".Just when I thought the nanny state of the UK could not be topped...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29841243</id>
	<title>Error in the summary</title>
	<author>spinach and eggs</author>
	<datestamp>1256212800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The bit:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>'I recently wrote to the minister [Minister McDonald] regarding my concern...'</p></div><p>has McDonald writing to himself.  Absurd!  It should read:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>'I recently wrote to the minister [Minister Brendan O'Connor] regarding my concern...'</p></div><p>This is made quite clear in TFA in their own correction at the end in boldface.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The bit : 'I recently wrote to the minister [ Minister McDonald ] regarding my concern...'has McDonald writing to himself .
Absurd ! It should read : 'I recently wrote to the minister [ Minister Brendan O'Connor ] regarding my concern...'This is made quite clear in TFA in their own correction at the end in boldface .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The bit:'I recently wrote to the minister [Minister McDonald] regarding my concern...'has McDonald writing to himself.
Absurd!  It should read:'I recently wrote to the minister [Minister Brendan O'Connor] regarding my concern...'This is made quite clear in TFA in their own correction at the end in boldface.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29839101</id>
	<title>Re:like hell it isn't</title>
	<author>Kreigaffe</author>
	<datestamp>1256243580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Awesome!  Freedom of expression of ONLY THINGS YOU FUCKING LIKE!</p><p>Wait!  That's not freedom of expression at all!  OH SHIT, I'M BEING ARRESTED, DISSENSION IS UNRATED SPEECH NOT PERMITTED!</p><p>Yeah, your ideas of freedom and censorship are all screwy and wrong, but hey, you for one will actually be welcoming our fascist authoritarian overlords without being sarcastic about it.  So..  yay for that, right?</p><p>(freedom from being offended by the words or beliefs of another:  one of the dumbest fucking ideas in the history of humanity.  and I am aware that "chopping one's genitals off" is also an idea in the history of humanity, and I'm saying this ludicrous pro-censorship stance is even fucking dumber and less thought-through.)</p><p>So fuck you, Mr. Pro-Censorship, Fuck You and your Fucking Redefinitions of Words.  "lols well see censorship isnt restrictive, it actually sets you free, you're free to be restricted from ever seeing the things we don't want you to!"...  yeah, no, get your damn dirty hands off my language.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Awesome !
Freedom of expression of ONLY THINGS YOU FUCKING LIKE ! Wait !
That 's not freedom of expression at all !
OH SHIT , I 'M BEING ARRESTED , DISSENSION IS UNRATED SPEECH NOT PERMITTED ! Yeah , your ideas of freedom and censorship are all screwy and wrong , but hey , you for one will actually be welcoming our fascist authoritarian overlords without being sarcastic about it .
So.. yay for that , right ?
( freedom from being offended by the words or beliefs of another : one of the dumbest fucking ideas in the history of humanity .
and I am aware that " chopping one 's genitals off " is also an idea in the history of humanity , and I 'm saying this ludicrous pro-censorship stance is even fucking dumber and less thought-through .
) So fuck you , Mr. Pro-Censorship , Fuck You and your Fucking Redefinitions of Words .
" lols well see censorship isnt restrictive , it actually sets you free , you 're free to be restricted from ever seeing the things we do n't want you to ! " .. .
yeah , no , get your damn dirty hands off my language .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Awesome!
Freedom of expression of ONLY THINGS YOU FUCKING LIKE!Wait!
That's not freedom of expression at all!
OH SHIT, I'M BEING ARRESTED, DISSENSION IS UNRATED SPEECH NOT PERMITTED!Yeah, your ideas of freedom and censorship are all screwy and wrong, but hey, you for one will actually be welcoming our fascist authoritarian overlords without being sarcastic about it.
So..  yay for that, right?
(freedom from being offended by the words or beliefs of another:  one of the dumbest fucking ideas in the history of humanity.
and I am aware that "chopping one's genitals off" is also an idea in the history of humanity, and I'm saying this ludicrous pro-censorship stance is even fucking dumber and less thought-through.
)So fuck you, Mr. Pro-Censorship, Fuck You and your Fucking Redefinitions of Words.
"lols well see censorship isnt restrictive, it actually sets you free, you're free to be restricted from ever seeing the things we don't want you to!"...
yeah, no, get your damn dirty hands off my language.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833123</id>
	<title>like hell it isn't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256208120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>This is not censorship: this is rating, like done with movies and so already.</p></div></blockquote><p>

Yes, but anything that is refused classification is unable to be sold. That's what censorship <i>is</i>.

It's ironic that the predecessor to the OFLC was the Film <i>Censorship</i> Board, yet anything they didn't review <i>was</i> available to sell. i.e. they didn't censor.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is not censorship : this is rating , like done with movies and so already .
Yes , but anything that is refused classification is unable to be sold .
That 's what censorship is .
It 's ironic that the predecessor to the OFLC was the Film Censorship Board , yet anything they did n't review was available to sell .
i.e. they did n't censor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is not censorship: this is rating, like done with movies and so already.
Yes, but anything that is refused classification is unable to be sold.
That's what censorship is.
It's ironic that the predecessor to the OFLC was the Film Censorship Board, yet anything they didn't review was available to sell.
i.e. they didn't censor.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29834847</id>
	<title>Re:Go censorship!</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1256224860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just to add - I don't know how this system will work, but if they went the<br>UK route, then it would simply be illegal to distribute an application without approval.</p><p>So it'll take years to go through them? No problem to the Government, as you won't be able to have the applications at all until they've been approved.</p><p>And of course, the person wanting to distribute will have to pay for the privilege of being censored (as is currently the case with the BBFC).</p><p>(The flip side is that the Video Recordings Act 1984 was recently found to have never been enacted in the UK, so it is legal to distribute without classification after all - though AFAIK nobody's tried this yet, and the Government has promised "emergency legislation"(!) to introduce such a law. It's apparently an "emergency" that an adult might see something that the Government/BBFC think you shouldn't.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just to add - I do n't know how this system will work , but if they went theUK route , then it would simply be illegal to distribute an application without approval.So it 'll take years to go through them ?
No problem to the Government , as you wo n't be able to have the applications at all until they 've been approved.And of course , the person wanting to distribute will have to pay for the privilege of being censored ( as is currently the case with the BBFC ) .
( The flip side is that the Video Recordings Act 1984 was recently found to have never been enacted in the UK , so it is legal to distribute without classification after all - though AFAIK nobody 's tried this yet , and the Government has promised " emergency legislation " ( !
) to introduce such a law .
It 's apparently an " emergency " that an adult might see something that the Government/BBFC think you should n't .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just to add - I don't know how this system will work, but if they went theUK route, then it would simply be illegal to distribute an application without approval.So it'll take years to go through them?
No problem to the Government, as you won't be able to have the applications at all until they've been approved.And of course, the person wanting to distribute will have to pay for the privilege of being censored (as is currently the case with the BBFC).
(The flip side is that the Video Recordings Act 1984 was recently found to have never been enacted in the UK, so it is legal to distribute without classification after all - though AFAIK nobody's tried this yet, and the Government has promised "emergency legislation"(!
) to introduce such a law.
It's apparently an "emergency" that an adult might see something that the Government/BBFC think you shouldn't.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833091</id>
	<title>Re:Go censorship!</title>
	<author>Hasney</author>
	<datestamp>1256207760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Australia have got so hot on censoring everything these days they're more of a great grandma state at this point.<br> <br>

With all the digital distribution options as well, I don't think they really know how easy it is to bypass regional restrictions on places like app stores.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Australia have got so hot on censoring everything these days they 're more of a great grandma state at this point .
With all the digital distribution options as well , I do n't think they really know how easy it is to bypass regional restrictions on places like app stores .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Australia have got so hot on censoring everything these days they're more of a great grandma state at this point.
With all the digital distribution options as well, I don't think they really know how easy it is to bypass regional restrictions on places like app stores.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833137</id>
	<title>I was going to take issue with the word "censor"</title>
	<author>Rogerborg</author>
	<datestamp>1256208180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then I RTFA:</p><blockquote><div><p> iTnews has since been informed that Minister McDonald was referring to <b>Commonwealth Censorship Minister</b> Brendan O'Connor.</p></div></blockquote><p>Well, how charmingly honest of them.  In a more sophisticated regime, that would be "Minister for the Protection of Cute Children's Precious, Precious Innocence."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Then I RTFA : iTnews has since been informed that Minister McDonald was referring to Commonwealth Censorship Minister Brendan O'Connor.Well , how charmingly honest of them .
In a more sophisticated regime , that would be " Minister for the Protection of Cute Children 's Precious , Precious Innocence .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then I RTFA: iTnews has since been informed that Minister McDonald was referring to Commonwealth Censorship Minister Brendan O'Connor.Well, how charmingly honest of them.
In a more sophisticated regime, that would be "Minister for the Protection of Cute Children's Precious, Precious Innocence.
"
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29834091</id>
	<title>Re:Go censorship!</title>
	<author>Shotgun</author>
	<datestamp>1256219400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do you not know what the primary business of any bureaucracy is?  It is to GROW.</p><p>Rating mobile apps give his little fiefdom unlimited growth potential.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you not know what the primary business of any bureaucracy is ?
It is to GROW.Rating mobile apps give his little fiefdom unlimited growth potential .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you not know what the primary business of any bureaucracy is?
It is to GROW.Rating mobile apps give his little fiefdom unlimited growth potential.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833563</id>
	<title>censorship alive.... &amp; ?well? on /.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256214420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>our post of 1/2 hour ago is gone. there was no profanity nor was it off topic (censorship). what a scam robbIE?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>our post of 1/2 hour ago is gone .
there was no profanity nor was it off topic ( censorship ) .
what a scam robbIE ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>our post of 1/2 hour ago is gone.
there was no profanity nor was it off topic (censorship).
what a scam robbIE?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29834761</id>
	<title>Re:like hell it isn't</title>
	<author>MBGMorden</author>
	<datestamp>1256224260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>While I don't disagree with you entirely, I always thought rating systems for films, games, etc. were (generally) quite fair; the products that have been "banned" typically feature the very worst and deplorable content around. Obviously there are exceptions to this but no system is perfect, especially ones involving humans.</p></div><p>Oh, I see.  Censorship is ok so long as they're censoring the stuff you want to see censored.</p><p>You really missed the point on this whole issue didn't you?</p><p>I'll give you a hint: go stand on the other side of the censorship line. You're not on our side.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>While I do n't disagree with you entirely , I always thought rating systems for films , games , etc .
were ( generally ) quite fair ; the products that have been " banned " typically feature the very worst and deplorable content around .
Obviously there are exceptions to this but no system is perfect , especially ones involving humans.Oh , I see .
Censorship is ok so long as they 're censoring the stuff you want to see censored.You really missed the point on this whole issue did n't you ? I 'll give you a hint : go stand on the other side of the censorship line .
You 're not on our side .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I don't disagree with you entirely, I always thought rating systems for films, games, etc.
were (generally) quite fair; the products that have been "banned" typically feature the very worst and deplorable content around.
Obviously there are exceptions to this but no system is perfect, especially ones involving humans.Oh, I see.
Censorship is ok so long as they're censoring the stuff you want to see censored.You really missed the point on this whole issue didn't you?I'll give you a hint: go stand on the other side of the censorship line.
You're not on our side.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833011</id>
	<title>Help!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256206920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mobile phone apps might contain teh boobies! Oh noes!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mobile phone apps might contain teh boobies !
Oh noes !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mobile phone apps might contain teh boobies!
Oh noes!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_0125244.29833085</id>
	<title>Re:Go censorship!</title>
	<author>slacker22</author>
	<datestamp>1256207760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd hazard that the only things to be censored will be a few isolated but popular (newsworthy) apps which have the potential to be politically embarrassing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd hazard that the only things to be censored will be a few isolated but popular ( newsworthy ) apps which have the potential to be politically embarrassing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd hazard that the only things to be censored will be a few isolated but popular (newsworthy) apps which have the potential to be politically embarrassing.</sentencetext>
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	<title>What are they trying to do with this censorship?</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1256215200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Encourage piracy? The local RIAA should send a few lawyers their way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Encourage piracy ?
The local RIAA should send a few lawyers their way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Encourage piracy?
The local RIAA should send a few lawyers their way.</sentencetext>
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	<title>This isnt about apps</title>
	<author>jonwil</author>
	<datestamp>1256220420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Its about games. And its not just about iPhone or even mobile games, its the fact that there are all sorts of games available to Australians that are currently not being given an OFLC rating (including games for mobile phones).</p><p>The government just wants to close a loophole and require games that are not sold in physical form to Australians (i.e. only available as a digital download) to obtain an OFLC rating in order to continue to be available to Australians.</p><p>More so than mobile phone games, I want to know what this will mean for free-as-in-open-source games, will those suddenly be illegal now too?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its about games .
And its not just about iPhone or even mobile games , its the fact that there are all sorts of games available to Australians that are currently not being given an OFLC rating ( including games for mobile phones ) .The government just wants to close a loophole and require games that are not sold in physical form to Australians ( i.e .
only available as a digital download ) to obtain an OFLC rating in order to continue to be available to Australians.More so than mobile phone games , I want to know what this will mean for free-as-in-open-source games , will those suddenly be illegal now too ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its about games.
And its not just about iPhone or even mobile games, its the fact that there are all sorts of games available to Australians that are currently not being given an OFLC rating (including games for mobile phones).The government just wants to close a loophole and require games that are not sold in physical form to Australians (i.e.
only available as a digital download) to obtain an OFLC rating in order to continue to be available to Australians.More so than mobile phone games, I want to know what this will mean for free-as-in-open-source games, will those suddenly be illegal now too?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Wasted sarcasm</title>
	<author>thisnamestoolong</author>
	<datestamp>1256216580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>SHHH!!!! I know you are being sarcastic but some right wing nutjob might hear you and think it's a great idea!</htmltext>
<tokenext>SHHH ! ! ! !
I know you are being sarcastic but some right wing nutjob might hear you and think it 's a great idea !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SHHH!!!!
I know you are being sarcastic but some right wing nutjob might hear you and think it's a great idea!</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:This is bad, how?</title>
	<author>Galestar</author>
	<datestamp>1256221320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ratings=Censorship when you place restrictions on the distribution of work that is rated above a certain level.



<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESRB" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESRB</a> [wikipedia.org]
AO - "Most of the major video game console manufacturers<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... strictly prohibit the release and sale of AO-rated games on their consoles. Games from major publishers that receive an AO rating are often 'toned down' in order to gain the lesser rating of M..."



<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion\_picture\_rating\_system" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion\_picture\_rating\_system</a> [wikipedia.org]
NC-17 - "No One 17 And Under Admitted"..."Most NC-17 titles also have an edited versions released on video and/or DVD that are either unrated or R-rated"</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ratings = Censorship when you place restrictions on the distribution of work that is rated above a certain level .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESRB [ wikipedia.org ] AO - " Most of the major video game console manufacturers ... strictly prohibit the release and sale of AO-rated games on their consoles .
Games from major publishers that receive an AO rating are often 'toned down ' in order to gain the lesser rating of M... " http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion \ _picture \ _rating \ _system [ wikipedia.org ] NC-17 - " No One 17 And Under Admitted " ... " Most NC-17 titles also have an edited versions released on video and/or DVD that are either unrated or R-rated "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ratings=Censorship when you place restrictions on the distribution of work that is rated above a certain level.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESRB [wikipedia.org]
AO - "Most of the major video game console manufacturers ... strictly prohibit the release and sale of AO-rated games on their consoles.
Games from major publishers that receive an AO rating are often 'toned down' in order to gain the lesser rating of M..."



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion\_picture\_rating\_system [wikipedia.org]
NC-17 - "No One 17 And Under Admitted"..."Most NC-17 titles also have an edited versions released on video and/or DVD that are either unrated or R-rated"</sentencetext>
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	<title>The end of indie iphone games in Australia</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256208120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As far as I know, to release a game on a medium regulated by the Australian classification board, you have to have the game in question classified. This costs a minimum of $1000 AUD.</p><p>This will spell the end of any small-scale iPhone game development by individuals or indie developers in Australia. The only games we'll see will be from big publishers, if we see them at all - even a big-name game is going to struggle to recoup $1000+ from Australian sales alone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As far as I know , to release a game on a medium regulated by the Australian classification board , you have to have the game in question classified .
This costs a minimum of $ 1000 AUD.This will spell the end of any small-scale iPhone game development by individuals or indie developers in Australia .
The only games we 'll see will be from big publishers , if we see them at all - even a big-name game is going to struggle to recoup $ 1000 + from Australian sales alone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As far as I know, to release a game on a medium regulated by the Australian classification board, you have to have the game in question classified.
This costs a minimum of $1000 AUD.This will spell the end of any small-scale iPhone game development by individuals or indie developers in Australia.
The only games we'll see will be from big publishers, if we see them at all - even a big-name game is going to struggle to recoup $1000+ from Australian sales alone.</sentencetext>
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