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	<title>125 Years of Longitude 0 0' 00" At Greenwich</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1256115960000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"This week marks the <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk\_news/magazine/8266883.stm">125th anniversary</a> of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International\_Meridian\_Conference">International Meridian Conference</a>, which determined that the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime\_Meridian">prime meridian</a> (i.e., longitude 0 0' 00") would travel through Greenwich, UK. One of the reasons that Greenwich was agreed upon 'was that 72\% of the world's shipping already depended on sea charts that used Greenwich as the Prime Meridian.' <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandford\_Fleming">Sandford Fleming</a>'s proposal of a single 24-hour clock for the entire world, located at the center of the Earth and <em>not</em> linked to any surface meridian, was rejected / not voted on, as it was felt to be outside the purview of the conference."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " This week marks the 125th anniversary of the International Meridian Conference , which determined that the prime meridian ( i.e. , longitude 0 0 ' 00 " ) would travel through Greenwich , UK .
One of the reasons that Greenwich was agreed upon 'was that 72 \ % of the world 's shipping already depended on sea charts that used Greenwich as the Prime Meridian .
' Sandford Fleming 's proposal of a single 24-hour clock for the entire world , located at the center of the Earth and not linked to any surface meridian , was rejected / not voted on , as it was felt to be outside the purview of the conference .
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<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "This week marks the 125th anniversary of the International Meridian Conference, which determined that the prime meridian (i.e., longitude 0 0' 00") would travel through Greenwich, UK.
One of the reasons that Greenwich was agreed upon 'was that 72\% of the world's shipping already depended on sea charts that used Greenwich as the Prime Meridian.
' Sandford Fleming's proposal of a single 24-hour clock for the entire world, located at the center of the Earth and not linked to any surface meridian, was rejected / not voted on, as it was felt to be outside the purview of the conference.
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	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>dtmos</author>
	<datestamp>1256126580000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Really, native English speakers <em>shouldn't</em> be chauvenistic [sic] about the fact the rest of the world is speaking their language, they should be ashamed by their inability to accomodate [sic] other cultures, and humbled by the fact other people go through the length of learning theirs.</p></div></blockquote><p>The difficulty for native, American English speakers is, which other language does one learn?  (Native American, English speakers have their own set of problems.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-) )  In high school and college I took Spanish, and became relatively proficient at speaking, reading, and writing it.  In my first job, though, I spent five or so years working closely with Japanese, took Japanese language classes, and got relatively proficient at speaking it, too -- but my Spanish suffered terribly.  Then my job changed, and I went instead to Germany.  I got moderately proficient in German, but lost practice in Japanese (to say nothing of my Spanish).  I then returned to the US, in an environment where foreign language skills are of absolutely no value at all.</p><p>I'm now in a situation where I remember three foreign languages poorly, interchange words and syntax between them with embarrassing frequency and, after what seems like a lifetime of learning languages and accommodating other cultures, can only speak English fluently.  What have I accomplished?  I worked hard at learning my coworkers' and customers' languages, largely because I <em>didn't</em> want to feel chauvinistic about others' use of English, but couldn't get enough life-long practice in each to become and/or remain fluent.</p><p>I am totally impressed with anyone who learns English as a second language -- I'm sure there's a language somewhere with more exceptions to its rules, but I'm unaware of it -- but, as a lingua franca it's usually clear that English <em>is</em> the language to learn.  It's less clear which language a native English speaker should learn.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Really , native English speakers should n't be chauvenistic [ sic ] about the fact the rest of the world is speaking their language , they should be ashamed by their inability to accomodate [ sic ] other cultures , and humbled by the fact other people go through the length of learning theirs.The difficulty for native , American English speakers is , which other language does one learn ?
( Native American , English speakers have their own set of problems .
: - ) ) In high school and college I took Spanish , and became relatively proficient at speaking , reading , and writing it .
In my first job , though , I spent five or so years working closely with Japanese , took Japanese language classes , and got relatively proficient at speaking it , too -- but my Spanish suffered terribly .
Then my job changed , and I went instead to Germany .
I got moderately proficient in German , but lost practice in Japanese ( to say nothing of my Spanish ) .
I then returned to the US , in an environment where foreign language skills are of absolutely no value at all.I 'm now in a situation where I remember three foreign languages poorly , interchange words and syntax between them with embarrassing frequency and , after what seems like a lifetime of learning languages and accommodating other cultures , can only speak English fluently .
What have I accomplished ?
I worked hard at learning my coworkers ' and customers ' languages , largely because I did n't want to feel chauvinistic about others ' use of English , but could n't get enough life-long practice in each to become and/or remain fluent.I am totally impressed with anyone who learns English as a second language -- I 'm sure there 's a language somewhere with more exceptions to its rules , but I 'm unaware of it -- but , as a lingua franca it 's usually clear that English is the language to learn .
It 's less clear which language a native English speaker should learn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really, native English speakers shouldn't be chauvenistic [sic] about the fact the rest of the world is speaking their language, they should be ashamed by their inability to accomodate [sic] other cultures, and humbled by the fact other people go through the length of learning theirs.The difficulty for native, American English speakers is, which other language does one learn?
(Native American, English speakers have their own set of problems.
:-) )  In high school and college I took Spanish, and became relatively proficient at speaking, reading, and writing it.
In my first job, though, I spent five or so years working closely with Japanese, took Japanese language classes, and got relatively proficient at speaking it, too -- but my Spanish suffered terribly.
Then my job changed, and I went instead to Germany.
I got moderately proficient in German, but lost practice in Japanese (to say nothing of my Spanish).
I then returned to the US, in an environment where foreign language skills are of absolutely no value at all.I'm now in a situation where I remember three foreign languages poorly, interchange words and syntax between them with embarrassing frequency and, after what seems like a lifetime of learning languages and accommodating other cultures, can only speak English fluently.
What have I accomplished?
I worked hard at learning my coworkers' and customers' languages, largely because I didn't want to feel chauvinistic about others' use of English, but couldn't get enough life-long practice in each to become and/or remain fluent.I am totally impressed with anyone who learns English as a second language -- I'm sure there's a language somewhere with more exceptions to its rules, but I'm unaware of it -- but, as a lingua franca it's usually clear that English is the language to learn.
It's less clear which language a native English speaker should learn.
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	<title>GPS and Galileo</title>
	<author>ErkDemon</author>
	<datestamp>1256124720000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Well, Yes. The US generously built the GPS system to map the entire world, so that it could be used to target US planes and missiles at any point on the globe. It would have been a bit silly if the system only enabled the US military to bomb sites within the US. </p><p>This would have somewhat limited the system's military usefulness (for the US, at least). </p><p>GPS was opened up for worldwide civilian use, for free, so that foreign aerospace companies wouldn't launch their own competing system that enemy countries could then use to target sites within the US, and US targets abroad, without the US government having an "off switch" or control over the spoiler systems. Companies within the US have legal restrictions that prevent them from certain sorts of satellite or mapping activities that relate to US territory. Making GPS free for civilian use was supposed to eliminate the business model of any competing civilian geolocation satellite systems, including those outside US legal jurisdiction, because it's difficult to come up with a business model that competes with "free".</p><p>The EU is now finally putting up the <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4555276.stm" title="bbc.co.uk">Galileo system</a> [bbc.co.uk] regardless (rollout commencing 2010), but throughout the project planning stages, the US has let it be known that it regards Galileo as an "unfriendly" system, and it's been made known that if there was ever any serious chance of hostilities breaking out between the US and another country, that seemed likely to result in the US being attacked, one of the first things that would be likely to happen would be the US shooting down the Galileo system's satellites.</p><p>So I think it's fair to say that the US has been quite keen for there not to be any other competing GPS-type system. </p><p>GPS is great, wonderful, marvellous, incredible. But let's not pretend that it was originally part of a great humanitarian plan, or that something like Galileo wouldn't have been launched years earlier if it wasn't for political considerations, Europe not wanting to antagonise the US, and European private industry not being able to create a business model for launching commercial geolocation satellites while GPS use was being given away for free, specifically to undercut them. Europeans have benefitted from free access to GPS for years (yippee!), but the price has been the lack of a system more closely tailored to local needs. In the end, we've decided that we really have to pay to put up our own system anyway.</p><p>In an ideal world, there'd be a reciprocal arrangement whereby American citizens would also be able to make use of Galileo if they wanted to, but I suppose there's a chance that the US Government might not want Galileo access generally available within their borders, and might take steps to prevent that happening.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , Yes .
The US generously built the GPS system to map the entire world , so that it could be used to target US planes and missiles at any point on the globe .
It would have been a bit silly if the system only enabled the US military to bomb sites within the US .
This would have somewhat limited the system 's military usefulness ( for the US , at least ) .
GPS was opened up for worldwide civilian use , for free , so that foreign aerospace companies would n't launch their own competing system that enemy countries could then use to target sites within the US , and US targets abroad , without the US government having an " off switch " or control over the spoiler systems .
Companies within the US have legal restrictions that prevent them from certain sorts of satellite or mapping activities that relate to US territory .
Making GPS free for civilian use was supposed to eliminate the business model of any competing civilian geolocation satellite systems , including those outside US legal jurisdiction , because it 's difficult to come up with a business model that competes with " free " .The EU is now finally putting up the Galileo system [ bbc.co.uk ] regardless ( rollout commencing 2010 ) , but throughout the project planning stages , the US has let it be known that it regards Galileo as an " unfriendly " system , and it 's been made known that if there was ever any serious chance of hostilities breaking out between the US and another country , that seemed likely to result in the US being attacked , one of the first things that would be likely to happen would be the US shooting down the Galileo system 's satellites.So I think it 's fair to say that the US has been quite keen for there not to be any other competing GPS-type system .
GPS is great , wonderful , marvellous , incredible .
But let 's not pretend that it was originally part of a great humanitarian plan , or that something like Galileo would n't have been launched years earlier if it was n't for political considerations , Europe not wanting to antagonise the US , and European private industry not being able to create a business model for launching commercial geolocation satellites while GPS use was being given away for free , specifically to undercut them .
Europeans have benefitted from free access to GPS for years ( yippee !
) , but the price has been the lack of a system more closely tailored to local needs .
In the end , we 've decided that we really have to pay to put up our own system anyway.In an ideal world , there 'd be a reciprocal arrangement whereby American citizens would also be able to make use of Galileo if they wanted to , but I suppose there 's a chance that the US Government might not want Galileo access generally available within their borders , and might take steps to prevent that happening .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, Yes.
The US generously built the GPS system to map the entire world, so that it could be used to target US planes and missiles at any point on the globe.
It would have been a bit silly if the system only enabled the US military to bomb sites within the US.
This would have somewhat limited the system's military usefulness (for the US, at least).
GPS was opened up for worldwide civilian use, for free, so that foreign aerospace companies wouldn't launch their own competing system that enemy countries could then use to target sites within the US, and US targets abroad, without the US government having an "off switch" or control over the spoiler systems.
Companies within the US have legal restrictions that prevent them from certain sorts of satellite or mapping activities that relate to US territory.
Making GPS free for civilian use was supposed to eliminate the business model of any competing civilian geolocation satellite systems, including those outside US legal jurisdiction, because it's difficult to come up with a business model that competes with "free".The EU is now finally putting up the Galileo system [bbc.co.uk] regardless (rollout commencing 2010), but throughout the project planning stages, the US has let it be known that it regards Galileo as an "unfriendly" system, and it's been made known that if there was ever any serious chance of hostilities breaking out between the US and another country, that seemed likely to result in the US being attacked, one of the first things that would be likely to happen would be the US shooting down the Galileo system's satellites.So I think it's fair to say that the US has been quite keen for there not to be any other competing GPS-type system.
GPS is great, wonderful, marvellous, incredible.
But let's not pretend that it was originally part of a great humanitarian plan, or that something like Galileo wouldn't have been launched years earlier if it wasn't for political considerations, Europe not wanting to antagonise the US, and European private industry not being able to create a business model for launching commercial geolocation satellites while GPS use was being given away for free, specifically to undercut them.
Europeans have benefitted from free access to GPS for years (yippee!
), but the price has been the lack of a system more closely tailored to local needs.
In the end, we've decided that we really have to pay to put up our own system anyway.In an ideal world, there'd be a reciprocal arrangement whereby American citizens would also be able to make use of Galileo if they wanted to, but I suppose there's a chance that the US Government might not want Galileo access generally available within their borders, and might take steps to prevent that happening.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>CrashandDie</author>
	<datestamp>1256138160000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>That's b/s. The European Communities did never have a single official language; it used all of the Member States' languages in parallel from the beginning. (Well, some institutions <i>do</i> have a working language, eg the European Court of Justice uses French internally, probably because its located in Luxembourg.)</p><p>BTW, when the UK and Ireland joined, there was no European Union.</p></div><p>Actually, it's not BS. The two main languages in Europe were German and French, on an official level. And oh, look, from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingua\_franca" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia</a> [wikipedia.org]:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>French was the language of diplomacy in Europe from the 17th century until its recent replacement by English, and as a result is still a working language of international institutions and is seen on documents ranging from passports to airmail letters. <em>For many years, until the United Kingdom, Ireland, and Denmark joined in 1973, French and German were the only official working languages of the European Economic Community</em>. French was also the lingua franca of European literature in the 18th century.</p></div><p>Emphasis mine. Yes, apologies, I misused "European Union" instead of "EEC".</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Please don't confuse modern French and <i>lingua franca</i>, which originally referred to the Frankish language, a West Germanic language only remotely related to Romance languages such as French.</p></div><p>I don't. I often use a second language (as in, a language which is neither of our respective mother tongues) with a lot of my colleagues or friends in other to communicate with them (and yes, frequently this is English). Is that not the <em>modern</em> definition of lingua franca? In my book, considering I'm not a native English speaker, speaking English with a native English speaker is <em>not</em> using English as lingua franca. However, speaking German with my Swedish buddy is, as neither of us knew the language until we were in the second half of our teens.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>That's only because English is already useful enough, so there is no <i>need</i> to learn a different language.</p><p>The reason for English being such prevalent is, of course, the British Empire spreading it.</p></div><p>Again, maybe I didn't carry my initial point across sufficiently: There's speaking a language out of "ease", and then there's learning a language out of "respect".</p></div>
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<tokenext>That 's b/s .
The European Communities did never have a single official language ; it used all of the Member States ' languages in parallel from the beginning .
( Well , some institutions do have a working language , eg the European Court of Justice uses French internally , probably because its located in Luxembourg .
) BTW , when the UK and Ireland joined , there was no European Union.Actually , it 's not BS .
The two main languages in Europe were German and French , on an official level .
And oh , look , from Wikipedia [ wikipedia.org ] : French was the language of diplomacy in Europe from the 17th century until its recent replacement by English , and as a result is still a working language of international institutions and is seen on documents ranging from passports to airmail letters .
For many years , until the United Kingdom , Ireland , and Denmark joined in 1973 , French and German were the only official working languages of the European Economic Community .
French was also the lingua franca of European literature in the 18th century.Emphasis mine .
Yes , apologies , I misused " European Union " instead of " EEC " .Please do n't confuse modern French and lingua franca , which originally referred to the Frankish language , a West Germanic language only remotely related to Romance languages such as French.I do n't .
I often use a second language ( as in , a language which is neither of our respective mother tongues ) with a lot of my colleagues or friends in other to communicate with them ( and yes , frequently this is English ) .
Is that not the modern definition of lingua franca ?
In my book , considering I 'm not a native English speaker , speaking English with a native English speaker is not using English as lingua franca .
However , speaking German with my Swedish buddy is , as neither of us knew the language until we were in the second half of our teens.That 's only because English is already useful enough , so there is no need to learn a different language.The reason for English being such prevalent is , of course , the British Empire spreading it.Again , maybe I did n't carry my initial point across sufficiently : There 's speaking a language out of " ease " , and then there 's learning a language out of " respect " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's b/s.
The European Communities did never have a single official language; it used all of the Member States' languages in parallel from the beginning.
(Well, some institutions do have a working language, eg the European Court of Justice uses French internally, probably because its located in Luxembourg.
)BTW, when the UK and Ireland joined, there was no European Union.Actually, it's not BS.
The two main languages in Europe were German and French, on an official level.
And oh, look, from Wikipedia [wikipedia.org]:French was the language of diplomacy in Europe from the 17th century until its recent replacement by English, and as a result is still a working language of international institutions and is seen on documents ranging from passports to airmail letters.
For many years, until the United Kingdom, Ireland, and Denmark joined in 1973, French and German were the only official working languages of the European Economic Community.
French was also the lingua franca of European literature in the 18th century.Emphasis mine.
Yes, apologies, I misused "European Union" instead of "EEC".Please don't confuse modern French and lingua franca, which originally referred to the Frankish language, a West Germanic language only remotely related to Romance languages such as French.I don't.
I often use a second language (as in, a language which is neither of our respective mother tongues) with a lot of my colleagues or friends in other to communicate with them (and yes, frequently this is English).
Is that not the modern definition of lingua franca?
In my book, considering I'm not a native English speaker, speaking English with a native English speaker is not using English as lingua franca.
However, speaking German with my Swedish buddy is, as neither of us knew the language until we were in the second half of our teens.That's only because English is already useful enough, so there is no need to learn a different language.The reason for English being such prevalent is, of course, the British Empire spreading it.Again, maybe I didn't carry my initial point across sufficiently: There's speaking a language out of "ease", and then there's learning a language out of "respect".
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	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256137380000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Not quite. In 20 years, Caucasians will not be a majority, but they will still be a plurality. Hispanics only recently passed blacks as the largest minority, and blacks were only about 11\% of the population.</p><p>Also, if you live in the north of the US, you're bordering a nation who has French (well, Quebecois) as an official language. Alaska borders Russia. Should Americans learn Spanish, French, or Russian?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not quite .
In 20 years , Caucasians will not be a majority , but they will still be a plurality .
Hispanics only recently passed blacks as the largest minority , and blacks were only about 11 \ % of the population.Also , if you live in the north of the US , you 're bordering a nation who has French ( well , Quebecois ) as an official language .
Alaska borders Russia .
Should Americans learn Spanish , French , or Russian ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not quite.
In 20 years, Caucasians will not be a majority, but they will still be a plurality.
Hispanics only recently passed blacks as the largest minority, and blacks were only about 11\% of the population.Also, if you live in the north of the US, you're bordering a nation who has French (well, Quebecois) as an official language.
Alaska borders Russia.
Should Americans learn Spanish, French, or Russian?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256121240000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>While MM/DD/YYYY seems illogical, it maps exactly to the way you say it - April 1st, 2010 = 04/01/2010</p></div><p>uhm alot of people think in languages other than US English</p></div>
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<tokenext>While MM/DD/YYYY seems illogical , it maps exactly to the way you say it - April 1st , 2010 = 04/01/2010uhm alot of people think in languages other than US English</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While MM/DD/YYYY seems illogical, it maps exactly to the way you say it - April 1st, 2010 = 04/01/2010uhm alot of people think in languages other than US English
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	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>Late Adopter</author>
	<datestamp>1256141220000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>French is a useful and underrated language.  It's the most predominant language on the European continent in areas without good English speakers.  In my experience, native Italians are ok at English, the Spanish and Portuguese are great, but the French are very poor (I'm less sure about Eastern Europe). German is practically English already.
<br> <br>
It's also an official language of international diplomacy (it comes *before* Spanish translations on US Passports), and is spoken in a lot of North African and Caribbean nations, so you have more places available to comfortably vacation =)</htmltext>
<tokenext>French is a useful and underrated language .
It 's the most predominant language on the European continent in areas without good English speakers .
In my experience , native Italians are ok at English , the Spanish and Portuguese are great , but the French are very poor ( I 'm less sure about Eastern Europe ) .
German is practically English already .
It 's also an official language of international diplomacy ( it comes * before * Spanish translations on US Passports ) , and is spoken in a lot of North African and Caribbean nations , so you have more places available to comfortably vacation = )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>French is a useful and underrated language.
It's the most predominant language on the European continent in areas without good English speakers.
In my experience, native Italians are ok at English, the Spanish and Portuguese are great, but the French are very poor (I'm less sure about Eastern Europe).
German is practically English already.
It's also an official language of international diplomacy (it comes *before* Spanish translations on US Passports), and is spoken in a lot of North African and Caribbean nations, so you have more places available to comfortably vacation =)</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>MosesJones</author>
	<datestamp>1256141040000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><i>It's also an official language of international diplomacy </i></p><p>French <b>was</b> the official language of diplomacy until about the middle of the 19th Century when the British Empire refused to use it.  At that point in time, and re-enforced by the rise of the US, the official language of diplomacy around the world (the lingua franca "french language") has been English.  English <b>is</b> the lingua franca of diplomacy.</p><p>English is also the official language of global air-traffic control with only one exception (hello France again).</p><p>I speak French, I love France.  But as a global language?  Yes you need it in France but even in ex-French colonies you'll find that more people want to speak English to you than want to speak French.</p><p>Working at a pan-european organisation (two official languages English and French) summed up the dominance of English.  When a Frenchman, Italian or German had an argument they had it in ENGLISH even if they all spoke French.  One day I sat in a meeting where someone, French, proposed that it should be held in French.  The Spanish, Dutch, Italian and German contingent made clear that this wasn't an option.  The Brits in the room didn't even have to say anything.</p><p>French is a beautiful language when spoken by beautiful French women.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's also an official language of international diplomacy French was the official language of diplomacy until about the middle of the 19th Century when the British Empire refused to use it .
At that point in time , and re-enforced by the rise of the US , the official language of diplomacy around the world ( the lingua franca " french language " ) has been English .
English is the lingua franca of diplomacy.English is also the official language of global air-traffic control with only one exception ( hello France again ) .I speak French , I love France .
But as a global language ?
Yes you need it in France but even in ex-French colonies you 'll find that more people want to speak English to you than want to speak French.Working at a pan-european organisation ( two official languages English and French ) summed up the dominance of English .
When a Frenchman , Italian or German had an argument they had it in ENGLISH even if they all spoke French .
One day I sat in a meeting where someone , French , proposed that it should be held in French .
The Spanish , Dutch , Italian and German contingent made clear that this was n't an option .
The Brits in the room did n't even have to say anything.French is a beautiful language when spoken by beautiful French women .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's also an official language of international diplomacy French was the official language of diplomacy until about the middle of the 19th Century when the British Empire refused to use it.
At that point in time, and re-enforced by the rise of the US, the official language of diplomacy around the world (the lingua franca "french language") has been English.
English is the lingua franca of diplomacy.English is also the official language of global air-traffic control with only one exception (hello France again).I speak French, I love France.
But as a global language?
Yes you need it in France but even in ex-French colonies you'll find that more people want to speak English to you than want to speak French.Working at a pan-european organisation (two official languages English and French) summed up the dominance of English.
When a Frenchman, Italian or German had an argument they had it in ENGLISH even if they all spoke French.
One day I sat in a meeting where someone, French, proposed that it should be held in French.
The Spanish, Dutch, Italian and German contingent made clear that this wasn't an option.
The Brits in the room didn't even have to say anything.French is a beautiful language when spoken by beautiful French women.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29823617</id>
	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>putaro</author>
	<datestamp>1256140860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, and they are welcome to write the date in the format that works best for them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , and they are welcome to write the date in the format that works best for them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, and they are welcome to write the date in the format that works best for them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29823415</id>
	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>xaxa</author>
	<datestamp>1256139960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's even worse for British/Irish people. For less than &pound;50 I can fly to another EU country. Together, we speak 22 official languages, and a load of "less-official" ones, like Welsh or Catalan. And that's not including Norway or Iceland, another two countries with their own language. 50\% of EUians speak English, and there's no way I can learn 21 other languages, so I'll just have to get embarrassed instead.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's even worse for British/Irish people .
For less than   50 I can fly to another EU country .
Together , we speak 22 official languages , and a load of " less-official " ones , like Welsh or Catalan .
And that 's not including Norway or Iceland , another two countries with their own language .
50 \ % of EUians speak English , and there 's no way I can learn 21 other languages , so I 'll just have to get embarrassed instead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's even worse for British/Irish people.
For less than £50 I can fly to another EU country.
Together, we speak 22 official languages, and a load of "less-official" ones, like Welsh or Catalan.
And that's not including Norway or Iceland, another two countries with their own language.
50\% of EUians speak English, and there's no way I can learn 21 other languages, so I'll just have to get embarrassed instead.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29822075</id>
	<title>Re:Prime Meridian Moved</title>
	<author>necro81</author>
	<datestamp>1256132820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The reason is that this kept the 90 degree west meridian in the same place the the original. Guess where that is...</p></div></blockquote><p>

I'm trying to figure out what you are referring to.<br> <br>

<a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;source=s\_q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=90+W,+43+N&amp;sll=43.999409,-90.002304&amp;sspn=0.092366,0.118103&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;hq=&amp;hnear=237-399+Ternes+Ct,+Ridgeway,+Iowa,+Wisconsin+53582&amp;ll=43.015568,-90.000687&amp;spn=0.093884,0.118103&amp;z=13" title="google.com">Ridgeway, WI</a> [google.com]?<br>

<a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;source=s\_q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=90+W,+38.5+N&amp;sll=38,-90&amp;sspn=0.101183,0.118103&amp;g=90+W,+38+N&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;hq=&amp;hnear=62-98+Skyline+Terrace,+Belleville,+St+Clair,+Illinois+62220&amp;ll=38.500939,-90.000338&amp;spn=0.00314,0.003691&amp;t=h&amp;z=18" title="google.com">this guy's house in Belleville, IL</a> [google.com]?<br>

<a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;source=s\_q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=90+W,+35.15+N&amp;sll=35.199995,-90&amp;sspn=0.104924,0.118103&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;hq=&amp;hnear=427-463+Hawthorne+St,+Memphis,+Shelby,+Tennessee+38112&amp;ll=35.149999,-89.999985&amp;spn=0.209976,0.236206&amp;z=12" title="google.com">Memphis, TN</a> [google.com]?<br>

<a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;source=s\_q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=90+W,+30+N&amp;sll=30.205062,-90.11207&amp;sspn=0.887755,0.944824&amp;g=90+W,+30.1+N&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;hq=&amp;hnear=&amp;ll=30,-90&amp;spn=0.444799,0.472412&amp;z=11" title="google.com">New Orleans, LA</a> [google.com]?<br>

<a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;source=s\_q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=90+W,+0+N&amp;sll=-5.003394,-90&amp;sspn=32.312236,30.234375&amp;g=90+W,+5+S&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;hq=&amp;hnear=&amp;ll=-0.604237,-90.065918&amp;spn=8.210284,7.558594&amp;z=7" title="google.com">The Galapagos Islands</a> [google.com]?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The reason is that this kept the 90 degree west meridian in the same place the the original .
Guess where that is.. . I 'm trying to figure out what you are referring to .
Ridgeway , WI [ google.com ] ?
this guy 's house in Belleville , IL [ google.com ] ?
Memphis , TN [ google.com ] ?
New Orleans , LA [ google.com ] ?
The Galapagos Islands [ google.com ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The reason is that this kept the 90 degree west meridian in the same place the the original.
Guess where that is...

I'm trying to figure out what you are referring to.
Ridgeway, WI [google.com]?
this guy's house in Belleville, IL [google.com]?
Memphis, TN [google.com]?
New Orleans, LA [google.com]?
The Galapagos Islands [google.com]?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29826571</id>
	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256153460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Right now, I think the right answer to that question is Latin. If you learn Latin in school, you not only increase your understanding of your native English, but you give yourself the ability to quickly come up to speed in 5 different languages. With a base in Latin, the only romance language that took me more than a week or so to start having conversations in was French, but only because of the difficulties in pronouncing and parsing spoken words...reading/writing it were fairly simple. Italian and Spanish were very easy to learn and Portuguese and Romanian were only a bit harder, though still much easier than French.</p><p>After Latin, given the political climate, the answer would probably be Chinese or Arabic.</p><p>All that said, the problem Americans have is not what languages to learn, it's when to learn languages. Your problems with the languages you learned stemmed from learning them as an adult. Languages learned in adulthood suffer the rot you referred to much more so than languages learned as a child. We need to adapt our educational system to focus on foreign languages when a child's brain is still in the formative stage where learning a language comes easy. A child in a preschool that is spoken to in a language other than their native one will become fluent in that language in 6-12 months. And a child who is spoken to in multiple languages will also naturally have fluency in both languages, though you have to be careful about mixing the two languages or the child can mix up the two (i.e. dad speaks one language, mom speaks another.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Right now , I think the right answer to that question is Latin .
If you learn Latin in school , you not only increase your understanding of your native English , but you give yourself the ability to quickly come up to speed in 5 different languages .
With a base in Latin , the only romance language that took me more than a week or so to start having conversations in was French , but only because of the difficulties in pronouncing and parsing spoken words...reading/writing it were fairly simple .
Italian and Spanish were very easy to learn and Portuguese and Romanian were only a bit harder , though still much easier than French.After Latin , given the political climate , the answer would probably be Chinese or Arabic.All that said , the problem Americans have is not what languages to learn , it 's when to learn languages .
Your problems with the languages you learned stemmed from learning them as an adult .
Languages learned in adulthood suffer the rot you referred to much more so than languages learned as a child .
We need to adapt our educational system to focus on foreign languages when a child 's brain is still in the formative stage where learning a language comes easy .
A child in a preschool that is spoken to in a language other than their native one will become fluent in that language in 6-12 months .
And a child who is spoken to in multiple languages will also naturally have fluency in both languages , though you have to be careful about mixing the two languages or the child can mix up the two ( i.e .
dad speaks one language , mom speaks another .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right now, I think the right answer to that question is Latin.
If you learn Latin in school, you not only increase your understanding of your native English, but you give yourself the ability to quickly come up to speed in 5 different languages.
With a base in Latin, the only romance language that took me more than a week or so to start having conversations in was French, but only because of the difficulties in pronouncing and parsing spoken words...reading/writing it were fairly simple.
Italian and Spanish were very easy to learn and Portuguese and Romanian were only a bit harder, though still much easier than French.After Latin, given the political climate, the answer would probably be Chinese or Arabic.All that said, the problem Americans have is not what languages to learn, it's when to learn languages.
Your problems with the languages you learned stemmed from learning them as an adult.
Languages learned in adulthood suffer the rot you referred to much more so than languages learned as a child.
We need to adapt our educational system to focus on foreign languages when a child's brain is still in the formative stage where learning a language comes easy.
A child in a preschool that is spoken to in a language other than their native one will become fluent in that language in 6-12 months.
And a child who is spoken to in multiple languages will also naturally have fluency in both languages, though you have to be careful about mixing the two languages or the child can mix up the two (i.e.
dad speaks one language, mom speaks another.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29829065</id>
	<title>Re:Happy birthday to 180th meridian too !</title>
	<author>Citizen of Earth</author>
	<datestamp>1256121180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you ask me, they should have placed the prime meridian so that the 180th meridian goes through the center of the Bering Strait.  This would provide a clean separation between Asia and North America and keep New Zealand from teetering so precariously on the edge of the map.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you ask me , they should have placed the prime meridian so that the 180th meridian goes through the center of the Bering Strait .
This would provide a clean separation between Asia and North America and keep New Zealand from teetering so precariously on the edge of the map .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you ask me, they should have placed the prime meridian so that the 180th meridian goes through the center of the Bering Strait.
This would provide a clean separation between Asia and North America and keep New Zealand from teetering so precariously on the edge of the map.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29829757</id>
	<title>Re:Happy birthday to 180th meridian too !</title>
	<author>mgblst</author>
	<datestamp>1256125200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You want New Zealand to Hawaii. Quite a popular thing to do for NYE, so you can celebrate 2 of them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You want New Zealand to Hawaii .
Quite a popular thing to do for NYE , so you can celebrate 2 of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You want New Zealand to Hawaii.
Quite a popular thing to do for NYE, so you can celebrate 2 of them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29828343</id>
	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256117760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>uhm alot of people think in languages other than US English</i> </p><p>Just 5; Insightful??? How did you miss getting 500; Informative?</p><p>Fucking stoner mods.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>uhm alot of people think in languages other than US English Just 5 ; Insightful ? ? ?
How did you miss getting 500 ; Informative ? Fucking stoner mods .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>uhm alot of people think in languages other than US English Just 5; Insightful???
How did you miss getting 500; Informative?Fucking stoner mods.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29824879</id>
	<title>Journey to the Center of the Earth</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1256146920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>...a single 24-hour clock for the entire world, located at the center of the Earth</i> Wouldn't that be a bit difficult to read, what with all the molten lava and such?</htmltext>
<tokenext>...a single 24-hour clock for the entire world , located at the center of the Earth Would n't that be a bit difficult to read , what with all the molten lava and such ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...a single 24-hour clock for the entire world, located at the center of the Earth Wouldn't that be a bit difficult to read, what with all the molten lava and such?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29821853</id>
	<title>The Prime Meridian...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256131200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's what makes time travel POSSIBLE!</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's what makes time travel POSSIBLE !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's what makes time travel POSSIBLE!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29821393</id>
	<title>The original Meridian was the island of "El Hierro</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256127420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>[from the wikipedia ]<br>El Hierro</p><p>The island was known in European history as the prime meridian in common use outside of the future British Empire. Already in the 2nd century A.D., Ptolemy considered a definition of the zero meridian based on the western-most position of the known world, giving maps with only positive (eastern) longitudes. In the year 1634, France ruled by Louis XIII and Richelieu decided that Ferro's meridian should be used as the reference on maps, since this island was considered the most western position of the Old World. (Azores lie further west, but they weren't discovered by Europeans till early 15th century, and their identification as part of the Old World is uncertain.) It was thought to be exactly 20 degrees west of the Paris meridian, so indeed the exact position of Ferro was never considered. Old maps (outside of Anglo-America) often have a common grid with Paris degrees at the top and Ferro degrees offset by 20 at the bottom. Louis Feuill&#233;e also worked on this problem in 1724.<br>[end]<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...the british, always stealing stuff</p><p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El\_Hierro#The\_.22Meridian\_Island.22</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>[ from the wikipedia ] El HierroThe island was known in European history as the prime meridian in common use outside of the future British Empire .
Already in the 2nd century A.D. , Ptolemy considered a definition of the zero meridian based on the western-most position of the known world , giving maps with only positive ( eastern ) longitudes .
In the year 1634 , France ruled by Louis XIII and Richelieu decided that Ferro 's meridian should be used as the reference on maps , since this island was considered the most western position of the Old World .
( Azores lie further west , but they were n't discovered by Europeans till early 15th century , and their identification as part of the Old World is uncertain .
) It was thought to be exactly 20 degrees west of the Paris meridian , so indeed the exact position of Ferro was never considered .
Old maps ( outside of Anglo-America ) often have a common grid with Paris degrees at the top and Ferro degrees offset by 20 at the bottom .
Louis Feuill   e also worked on this problem in 1724 .
[ end ] ...the british , always stealing stuffhttp : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El \ _Hierro # The \ _.22Meridian \ _Island.22</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[from the wikipedia ]El HierroThe island was known in European history as the prime meridian in common use outside of the future British Empire.
Already in the 2nd century A.D., Ptolemy considered a definition of the zero meridian based on the western-most position of the known world, giving maps with only positive (eastern) longitudes.
In the year 1634, France ruled by Louis XIII and Richelieu decided that Ferro's meridian should be used as the reference on maps, since this island was considered the most western position of the Old World.
(Azores lie further west, but they weren't discovered by Europeans till early 15th century, and their identification as part of the Old World is uncertain.
) It was thought to be exactly 20 degrees west of the Paris meridian, so indeed the exact position of Ferro was never considered.
Old maps (outside of Anglo-America) often have a common grid with Paris degrees at the top and Ferro degrees offset by 20 at the bottom.
Louis Feuillée also worked on this problem in 1724.
[end] ...the british, always stealing stuffhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El\_Hierro#The\_.22Meridian\_Island.22</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29827555</id>
	<title>Re:Happy birthday to 180th meridian too !</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256157780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>A young rocket scientist named Wright<br>once traveled much faster than light<br>He set out one day, in a relative way<br>and arrived on the previous night</i> </p><p>Old one:</p><p>Temporal Reverse Engineering, Inc.<br>If you need us, we will call you yesterday.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A young rocket scientist named Wrightonce traveled much faster than lightHe set out one day , in a relative wayand arrived on the previous night Old one : Temporal Reverse Engineering , Inc.If you need us , we will call you yesterday .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A young rocket scientist named Wrightonce traveled much faster than lightHe set out one day, in a relative wayand arrived on the previous night Old one:Temporal Reverse Engineering, Inc.If you need us, we will call you yesterday.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29821753</id>
	<title>No, thanks</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256130480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A clock located at the center of the Earth !? Call me old fashioned (and it won't be the first time), but I will use my cuckoo clock, thank you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A clock located at the center of the Earth ! ?
Call me old fashioned ( and it wo n't be the first time ) , but I will use my cuckoo clock , thank you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A clock located at the center of the Earth !?
Call me old fashioned (and it won't be the first time), but I will use my cuckoo clock, thank you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29820789</id>
	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>putaro</author>
	<datestamp>1256120460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While MM/DD/YYYY seems illogical, it maps exactly to the way you say it - April 1st, 2010 = 04/01/2010</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While MM/DD/YYYY seems illogical , it maps exactly to the way you say it - April 1st , 2010 = 04/01/2010</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While MM/DD/YYYY seems illogical, it maps exactly to the way you say it - April 1st, 2010 = 04/01/2010</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29825157</id>
	<title>additional useless info...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256148060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There was a Speed Racer episode which dealt with that.  Spritel got to race because they crossed the line and he was now old enough by a few hours or something like that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There was a Speed Racer episode which dealt with that .
Spritel got to race because they crossed the line and he was now old enough by a few hours or something like that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There was a Speed Racer episode which dealt with that.
Spritel got to race because they crossed the line and he was now old enough by a few hours or something like that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29837147</id>
	<title>Re:How about that calendar?</title>
	<author>ErkDemon</author>
	<datestamp>1256235060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I liked the French Revolutionary Calendar idea.
<p>
Twelve months of exactly thirty days each.
<br>The five leftover days at the end of the year are "free" days for partying, and sit outside the standard monthly calendar. They're yours.
</p><p>
It makes payroll and project planning and rent calculations simpler if every month is ALWAYS the same number of days). Leap year adjsutments are done by fiddling with the leftover days, not by changing the length of an individual month.
</p><p>
So if you're contracted to do a month's work, or you pay a month's rent, you don't have to worry about whether its a "long" month or a "short" month.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I liked the French Revolutionary Calendar idea .
Twelve months of exactly thirty days each .
The five leftover days at the end of the year are " free " days for partying , and sit outside the standard monthly calendar .
They 're yours .
It makes payroll and project planning and rent calculations simpler if every month is ALWAYS the same number of days ) .
Leap year adjsutments are done by fiddling with the leftover days , not by changing the length of an individual month .
So if you 're contracted to do a month 's work , or you pay a month 's rent , you do n't have to worry about whether its a " long " month or a " short " month .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I liked the French Revolutionary Calendar idea.
Twelve months of exactly thirty days each.
The five leftover days at the end of the year are "free" days for partying, and sit outside the standard monthly calendar.
They're yours.
It makes payroll and project planning and rent calculations simpler if every month is ALWAYS the same number of days).
Leap year adjsutments are done by fiddling with the leftover days, not by changing the length of an individual month.
So if you're contracted to do a month's work, or you pay a month's rent, you don't have to worry about whether its a "long" month or a "short" month.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29826449</id>
	<title>Re:How about that calendar?</title>
	<author>VJ42</author>
	<datestamp>1256152980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And finally, the reason that the metric system never caught on in Imperial areas</p></div><p>You mean like the whole of the UK where we now use the Metric system for almost everything? No, it's not caught on at all.</p></div>
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<tokenext>And finally , the reason that the metric system never caught on in Imperial areasYou mean like the whole of the UK where we now use the Metric system for almost everything ?
No , it 's not caught on at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And finally, the reason that the metric system never caught on in Imperial areasYou mean like the whole of the UK where we now use the Metric system for almost everything?
No, it's not caught on at all.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29820937</id>
	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256122260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People in other English speaking countries say it correctly too (e.g. "[the] first of April two thousand and ten"). Americans say it wrong because they write it wrong.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People in other English speaking countries say it correctly too ( e.g .
" [ the ] first of April two thousand and ten " ) .
Americans say it wrong because they write it wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People in other English speaking countries say it correctly too (e.g.
"[the] first of April two thousand and ten").
Americans say it wrong because they write it wrong.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29833351</id>
	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256211420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For instance, we could get Americans to learn English as their second language.</p><p>(I couldn't stop myself...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For instance , we could get Americans to learn English as their second language .
( I could n't stop myself... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For instance, we could get Americans to learn English as their second language.
(I couldn't stop myself...)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29822091</id>
	<title>Re:Prime Meridian Moved</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256132880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are aware that the US built the GPS system right? We designed it. We paid for it. We launched it. We still pay for it to operate and be maintained.</p><p>Since the system gains it's "zero" from a ground based reference it only makes sense that it's based on a location in the US since we are the ones that built the system. It's nothing short of amazing that the Prime Meridian only moved 100m. That's a testament to the skill of those that came before.</p><p>Keep in mind that my tax dollars fund this and it's open for the whole world to use, so quit yer bitchin.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are aware that the US built the GPS system right ?
We designed it .
We paid for it .
We launched it .
We still pay for it to operate and be maintained.Since the system gains it 's " zero " from a ground based reference it only makes sense that it 's based on a location in the US since we are the ones that built the system .
It 's nothing short of amazing that the Prime Meridian only moved 100m .
That 's a testament to the skill of those that came before.Keep in mind that my tax dollars fund this and it 's open for the whole world to use , so quit yer bitchin .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are aware that the US built the GPS system right?
We designed it.
We paid for it.
We launched it.
We still pay for it to operate and be maintained.Since the system gains it's "zero" from a ground based reference it only makes sense that it's based on a location in the US since we are the ones that built the system.
It's nothing short of amazing that the Prime Meridian only moved 100m.
That's a testament to the skill of those that came before.Keep in mind that my tax dollars fund this and it's open for the whole world to use, so quit yer bitchin.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29821145</id>
	<title>Re:Happy birthday to 180th meridian too !</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256124720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually, you'd have to set it 24 hours when crossing the 180th. The (theoretical) timezone-limits for +12 and -12 are only 7.5 degrees each, compared to 15 degrees for the all others. Of course in real life, it only crosses land i Russia and Fiji, and they bend the dateline around themselves to avoid this, so this should only happen at sea.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , you 'd have to set it 24 hours when crossing the 180th .
The ( theoretical ) timezone-limits for + 12 and -12 are only 7.5 degrees each , compared to 15 degrees for the all others .
Of course in real life , it only crosses land i Russia and Fiji , and they bend the dateline around themselves to avoid this , so this should only happen at sea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, you'd have to set it 24 hours when crossing the 180th.
The (theoretical) timezone-limits for +12 and -12 are only 7.5 degrees each, compared to 15 degrees for the all others.
Of course in real life, it only crosses land i Russia and Fiji, and they bend the dateline around themselves to avoid this, so this should only happen at sea.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29823471</id>
	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256140260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt; The European Communities did never have a single official language<br>&gt; Actually, it's not BS. The two main languages in Europe were German and French, on an official level. And oh, look, from Wikipedia [wikipedia.org]:</p><p>Two languages is not the same as a <i>single</i> official language.</p><p>Also, the common market was not and is not the EU.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; The European Communities did never have a single official language &gt; Actually , it 's not BS .
The two main languages in Europe were German and French , on an official level .
And oh , look , from Wikipedia [ wikipedia.org ] : Two languages is not the same as a single official language.Also , the common market was not and is not the EU .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt; The European Communities did never have a single official language&gt; Actually, it's not BS.
The two main languages in Europe were German and French, on an official level.
And oh, look, from Wikipedia [wikipedia.org]:Two languages is not the same as a single official language.Also, the common market was not and is not the EU.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29821663</id>
	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>3247</author>
	<datestamp>1256129700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It's not because English is a vernacular language for most people that it is the de facto lingua franca for the rest of the world. Let's not forget that for a very long time, French was the language of diplomacy for a few centuries, and the official language in the European Union, until the UK and Ireland joined in and bullied their way through.</p></div><p>That's b/s. The European Communities did never have a single official language; it used all of the Member States' languages in parallel from the beginning. (Well, some institutions <i>do</i> have a working language, eg the European Court of Justice uses French internally, probably because its located in Luxembourg.)</p><p>BTW, when the UK and Ireland joined, there was no European Union.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Please don't confuse lingua franca and a vernacular language.</p></div><p>Please don't confuse modern French and <i>lingua franca</i>, which originally referred to the Frankish language, a West Germanic language only remotely related to Romance languages such as French.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>In other words: The rest of the world speaks English because: a/ it's an easy language, b/ most of English speakers are too lazy, or can't be bothered to learn another language.</p></div><p>That's only because English is already useful enough, so there is no <i>need</i> to learn a different language.</p><p>The reason for English being such prevalent is, of course, the British Empire spreading it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not because English is a vernacular language for most people that it is the de facto lingua franca for the rest of the world .
Let 's not forget that for a very long time , French was the language of diplomacy for a few centuries , and the official language in the European Union , until the UK and Ireland joined in and bullied their way through.That 's b/s .
The European Communities did never have a single official language ; it used all of the Member States ' languages in parallel from the beginning .
( Well , some institutions do have a working language , eg the European Court of Justice uses French internally , probably because its located in Luxembourg .
) BTW , when the UK and Ireland joined , there was no European Union.Please do n't confuse lingua franca and a vernacular language.Please do n't confuse modern French and lingua franca , which originally referred to the Frankish language , a West Germanic language only remotely related to Romance languages such as French.In other words : The rest of the world speaks English because : a/ it 's an easy language , b/ most of English speakers are too lazy , or ca n't be bothered to learn another language.That 's only because English is already useful enough , so there is no need to learn a different language.The reason for English being such prevalent is , of course , the British Empire spreading it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not because English is a vernacular language for most people that it is the de facto lingua franca for the rest of the world.
Let's not forget that for a very long time, French was the language of diplomacy for a few centuries, and the official language in the European Union, until the UK and Ireland joined in and bullied their way through.That's b/s.
The European Communities did never have a single official language; it used all of the Member States' languages in parallel from the beginning.
(Well, some institutions do have a working language, eg the European Court of Justice uses French internally, probably because its located in Luxembourg.
)BTW, when the UK and Ireland joined, there was no European Union.Please don't confuse lingua franca and a vernacular language.Please don't confuse modern French and lingua franca, which originally referred to the Frankish language, a West Germanic language only remotely related to Romance languages such as French.In other words: The rest of the world speaks English because: a/ it's an easy language, b/ most of English speakers are too lazy, or can't be bothered to learn another language.That's only because English is already useful enough, so there is no need to learn a different language.The reason for English being such prevalent is, of course, the British Empire spreading it.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29827053</id>
	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256155560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's "two thousand ten".  The conjunction "and" is not used when spelling out a number.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's " two thousand ten " .
The conjunction " and " is not used when spelling out a number .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's "two thousand ten".
The conjunction "and" is not used when spelling out a number.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29822579</id>
	<title>Typical French!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256135760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"However, France abstained from the vote and French maps continued to use the Paris Meridian for several decades."</p><p>Typical.</p><p>Keep on burning foreign sheep and going on strike France. You're irrelevant.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" However , France abstained from the vote and French maps continued to use the Paris Meridian for several decades .
" Typical.Keep on burning foreign sheep and going on strike France .
You 're irrelevant .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"However, France abstained from the vote and French maps continued to use the Paris Meridian for several decades.
"Typical.Keep on burning foreign sheep and going on strike France.
You're irrelevant.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29825267</id>
	<title>Re:Happy birthday to 180th meridian too !</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256148540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Quite a few people are unaware of it<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-))</p></div><p>So you're saying that there's actually people that believe that you can get a day ahead by traveling around the earth?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Quite a few people are unaware of it ; - ) ) So you 're saying that there 's actually people that believe that you can get a day ahead by traveling around the earth ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Quite a few people are unaware of it ;-))So you're saying that there's actually people that believe that you can get a day ahead by traveling around the earth?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29825777</id>
	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>dmartin</author>
	<datestamp>1256150460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>While MM/DD/YYYY seems illogical, it maps exactly to the way you say it - April 1st, 2010 = 04/01/2010</p></div><p>uhm alot of people think in languages other than US English</p></div><p>And the 4th of July, 2010<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..... oh wait....</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>While MM/DD/YYYY seems illogical , it maps exactly to the way you say it - April 1st , 2010 = 04/01/2010uhm alot of people think in languages other than US EnglishAnd the 4th of July , 2010 ..... oh wait... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While MM/DD/YYYY seems illogical, it maps exactly to the way you say it - April 1st, 2010 = 04/01/2010uhm alot of people think in languages other than US EnglishAnd the 4th of July, 2010 ..... oh wait....
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29821331</id>
	<title>Prime Meridian Moved</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256126880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What people may not be aware of is that the GPS prime meridian, as defined by the WGS 94 Geoid, is 100 metres east of the original - see this BBC article <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8266883.stm" title="bbc.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8266883.stm</a> [bbc.co.uk]</p><p>The reason is that this kept the 90 degree west meridian in the same place the the original. Guess where that is...</p><p>Tells you where the power and money was when the GPS system was set up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What people may not be aware of is that the GPS prime meridian , as defined by the WGS 94 Geoid , is 100 metres east of the original - see this BBC article http : //news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8266883.stm [ bbc.co.uk ] The reason is that this kept the 90 degree west meridian in the same place the the original .
Guess where that is...Tells you where the power and money was when the GPS system was set up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What people may not be aware of is that the GPS prime meridian, as defined by the WGS 94 Geoid, is 100 metres east of the original - see this BBC article http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8266883.stm [bbc.co.uk]The reason is that this kept the 90 degree west meridian in the same place the the original.
Guess where that is...Tells you where the power and money was when the GPS system was set up.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29821035</id>
	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>CrashandDie</author>
	<datestamp>1256123340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's not because English is a vernacular language for most people that it is the de facto lingua franca for the rest of the world. Let's not forget that for a very long time, French was the language of diplomacy for a few centuries, and the official language in the European Union, until the UK and Ireland joined in and bullied their way through.<br> <br>

Please don't confuse lingua franca and a vernacular language. The latter is used to accomodate one of the parties as it's their mother tongue. The former is used as a form of respect, a way of saying "neither of our mother tongues is appropriate for this discussion, so using a neutral language will ease our conversation".<br> <br>

In other words: The rest of the world speaks English because: a/ it's an easy language, b/ most of English speakers are too lazy, or can't be bothered to learn another language.<br> <br>

Really, native English speakers <em>shouldn't</em> be chauvenistic about the fact the rest of the world is speaking their language, they should be ashamed by their inability to accomodate other cultures, and humbled by the fact other people go through the length of learning theirs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not because English is a vernacular language for most people that it is the de facto lingua franca for the rest of the world .
Let 's not forget that for a very long time , French was the language of diplomacy for a few centuries , and the official language in the European Union , until the UK and Ireland joined in and bullied their way through .
Please do n't confuse lingua franca and a vernacular language .
The latter is used to accomodate one of the parties as it 's their mother tongue .
The former is used as a form of respect , a way of saying " neither of our mother tongues is appropriate for this discussion , so using a neutral language will ease our conversation " .
In other words : The rest of the world speaks English because : a/ it 's an easy language , b/ most of English speakers are too lazy , or ca n't be bothered to learn another language .
Really , native English speakers should n't be chauvenistic about the fact the rest of the world is speaking their language , they should be ashamed by their inability to accomodate other cultures , and humbled by the fact other people go through the length of learning theirs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not because English is a vernacular language for most people that it is the de facto lingua franca for the rest of the world.
Let's not forget that for a very long time, French was the language of diplomacy for a few centuries, and the official language in the European Union, until the UK and Ireland joined in and bullied their way through.
Please don't confuse lingua franca and a vernacular language.
The latter is used to accomodate one of the parties as it's their mother tongue.
The former is used as a form of respect, a way of saying "neither of our mother tongues is appropriate for this discussion, so using a neutral language will ease our conversation".
In other words: The rest of the world speaks English because: a/ it's an easy language, b/ most of English speakers are too lazy, or can't be bothered to learn another language.
Really, native English speakers shouldn't be chauvenistic about the fact the rest of the world is speaking their language, they should be ashamed by their inability to accomodate other cultures, and humbled by the fact other people go through the length of learning theirs.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29820971</id>
	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256122440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Certainly. And yet English is the de facto language of business the world over. Why is it unfair to expect the same of a system of dating?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Certainly .
And yet English is the de facto language of business the world over .
Why is it unfair to expect the same of a system of dating ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Certainly.
And yet English is the de facto language of business the world over.
Why is it unfair to expect the same of a system of dating?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29831577</id>
	<title>Re:I'm a Greenwich resident</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256142180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>It's a wonderful thing to live a phlegms breath away from such a staple part of our species everyday lives.</i> </p><p>Whatever gets you through the night<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a wonderful thing to live a phlegms breath away from such a staple part of our species everyday lives .
Whatever gets you through the night ... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a wonderful thing to live a phlegms breath away from such a staple part of our species everyday lives.
Whatever gets you through the night ....</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29820785</id>
	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256120460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Don't even get me started on our lack of metric....</p></div><p>But you have a beautiful metric, in bodyparts!</p><p>It's perfect for D&amp;D. "I advance five feet" is much more immersive than "I advance two meters".</p><p>Pity that you didn't make a corresponding time system replacing seconds, hours and days by heartbeats, digestions and bodyrottings.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't even get me started on our lack of metric....But you have a beautiful metric , in bodyparts ! It 's perfect for D&amp;D .
" I advance five feet " is much more immersive than " I advance two meters " .Pity that you did n't make a corresponding time system replacing seconds , hours and days by heartbeats , digestions and bodyrottings .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't even get me started on our lack of metric....But you have a beautiful metric, in bodyparts!It's perfect for D&amp;D.
"I advance five feet" is much more immersive than "I advance two meters".Pity that you didn't make a corresponding time system replacing seconds, hours and days by heartbeats, digestions and bodyrottings.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29821639</id>
	<title>Anybody wondering</title>
	<author>Hognoxious</author>
	<datestamp>1256129520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Anybody wondering why it's doesn't run through Paris?  Take a look <a href="http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/victories.html" title="albinoblacksheep.com" rel="nofollow">here</a> [albinoblacksheep.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anybody wondering why it 's does n't run through Paris ?
Take a look here [ albinoblacksheep.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anybody wondering why it's doesn't run through Paris?
Take a look here [albinoblacksheep.com]</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256134620000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Ummm...a lot of people use other calendars as well.  The comment was by an American for Americans.</p><p>All of these oh so superior, look how international we are comments from Euro-centrics make me laugh.</p><p>For example, I live in Japan.  The official calendar here has years numbered by the year of reign of the Japanese Emperor.  So, this is currently Heisei 21, or year 21 of the reign of the Heisei Emperor.  When I go to the bank, I have to fill in the forms with that date.</p><p>Before anyone goes off about ISO dates being an international standard, ISO has traditionally been a Euro-dominated group. I don't believe that Asia has been well represented in the past (this is probably changing now) and each country gets only 1 vote, so the United States has been out numbered.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ummm...a lot of people use other calendars as well .
The comment was by an American for Americans.All of these oh so superior , look how international we are comments from Euro-centrics make me laugh.For example , I live in Japan .
The official calendar here has years numbered by the year of reign of the Japanese Emperor .
So , this is currently Heisei 21 , or year 21 of the reign of the Heisei Emperor .
When I go to the bank , I have to fill in the forms with that date.Before anyone goes off about ISO dates being an international standard , ISO has traditionally been a Euro-dominated group .
I do n't believe that Asia has been well represented in the past ( this is probably changing now ) and each country gets only 1 vote , so the United States has been out numbered .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ummm...a lot of people use other calendars as well.
The comment was by an American for Americans.All of these oh so superior, look how international we are comments from Euro-centrics make me laugh.For example, I live in Japan.
The official calendar here has years numbered by the year of reign of the Japanese Emperor.
So, this is currently Heisei 21, or year 21 of the reign of the Heisei Emperor.
When I go to the bank, I have to fill in the forms with that date.Before anyone goes off about ISO dates being an international standard, ISO has traditionally been a Euro-dominated group.
I don't believe that Asia has been well represented in the past (this is probably changing now) and each country gets only 1 vote, so the United States has been out numbered.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29837335</id>
	<title>Pints</title>
	<author>ErkDemon</author>
	<datestamp>1256235780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>For pints, you could start serving beer in "metric pints" of 500ml.
<p>
Bigger pints! More beer! Yaaay!
</p><p>
I've never heard anyone complain about fizzy drinks or fruit juices being sold in the UK by the litre, or about cans of drink coming in 330ml cans. It's only when it comes to milk that people seem to get funny about it.
</p><p>
Some years back, UK supermarkets changed some of their packaging and started selling milk in litres and whole fractions of a litre, and I thought it was really neat. And then, once I'd gotten used to it, someone must have complained, and they went back to selling them in pint-equivalents. I was really pissed off about that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For pints , you could start serving beer in " metric pints " of 500ml .
Bigger pints !
More beer !
Yaaay ! I 've never heard anyone complain about fizzy drinks or fruit juices being sold in the UK by the litre , or about cans of drink coming in 330ml cans .
It 's only when it comes to milk that people seem to get funny about it .
Some years back , UK supermarkets changed some of their packaging and started selling milk in litres and whole fractions of a litre , and I thought it was really neat .
And then , once I 'd gotten used to it , someone must have complained , and they went back to selling them in pint-equivalents .
I was really pissed off about that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For pints, you could start serving beer in "metric pints" of 500ml.
Bigger pints!
More beer!
Yaaay!

I've never heard anyone complain about fizzy drinks or fruit juices being sold in the UK by the litre, or about cans of drink coming in 330ml cans.
It's only when it comes to milk that people seem to get funny about it.
Some years back, UK supermarkets changed some of their packaging and started selling milk in litres and whole fractions of a litre, and I thought it was really neat.
And then, once I'd gotten used to it, someone must have complained, and they went back to selling them in pint-equivalents.
I was really pissed off about that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29823729</id>
	<title>Re:Happy birthday to 180th meridian too !</title>
	<author>tsalmark</author>
	<datestamp>1256141460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Quite a few people are unaware of the date line?
Your article is from 1919.
I think/hope most people have some grasp of the roundness of the earth nowadays.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Quite a few people are unaware of the date line ?
Your article is from 1919 .
I think/hope most people have some grasp of the roundness of the earth nowadays .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Quite a few people are unaware of the date line?
Your article is from 1919.
I think/hope most people have some grasp of the roundness of the earth nowadays.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29820827</id>
	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256121060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"nth of month, year" isn't exactly uncommon either.</p><p>Also, the written form Americans use causes a lot of confusion when dealing with non-Americans who use yyyy-mm-dd, dd/mm/yyyy or yyyy/mm/dd.</p><p>And as always, I think grandpa Simpson's classic comment really sums up the attitude behind why so many Americans are reluctant to switching; &ldquo;My car gets forty rods to the hogshead, and that's the way I likes it!&rdquo;</p><p>/Mikael</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" nth of month , year " is n't exactly uncommon either.Also , the written form Americans use causes a lot of confusion when dealing with non-Americans who use yyyy-mm-dd , dd/mm/yyyy or yyyy/mm/dd.And as always , I think grandpa Simpson 's classic comment really sums up the attitude behind why so many Americans are reluctant to switching ;    My car gets forty rods to the hogshead , and that 's the way I likes it !    /Mikael</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"nth of month, year" isn't exactly uncommon either.Also, the written form Americans use causes a lot of confusion when dealing with non-Americans who use yyyy-mm-dd, dd/mm/yyyy or yyyy/mm/dd.And as always, I think grandpa Simpson's classic comment really sums up the attitude behind why so many Americans are reluctant to switching; “My car gets forty rods to the hogshead, and that's the way I likes it!”/Mikael</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29824095</id>
	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1256143320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Please don't screw with English. At last, we have some language that is truly approaching the status of a universal one, for all its flaws - for God's sake, leave it that way! I do not want to learn a different language just because you think that using English, relying on the fact that its knowledge is widespread, and expecting people to follow the established practice, is somehow "chauvinistic". It's not - it's simply a matter of convenience and use of existing de-facto standard.</p><p>P.S. I'm not a native English speaker.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Please do n't screw with English .
At last , we have some language that is truly approaching the status of a universal one , for all its flaws - for God 's sake , leave it that way !
I do not want to learn a different language just because you think that using English , relying on the fact that its knowledge is widespread , and expecting people to follow the established practice , is somehow " chauvinistic " .
It 's not - it 's simply a matter of convenience and use of existing de-facto standard.P.S .
I 'm not a native English speaker .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please don't screw with English.
At last, we have some language that is truly approaching the status of a universal one, for all its flaws - for God's sake, leave it that way!
I do not want to learn a different language just because you think that using English, relying on the fact that its knowledge is widespread, and expecting people to follow the established practice, is somehow "chauvinistic".
It's not - it's simply a matter of convenience and use of existing de-facto standard.P.S.
I'm not a native English speaker.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29824121</id>
	<title>moved 122 degrees, 19 minutes west</title>
	<author>peter303</author>
	<datestamp>1256143440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Prime Meridian now goes through Redmond Washington on all MSFT maps.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Prime Meridian now goes through Redmond Washington on all MSFT maps .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Prime Meridian now goes through Redmond Washington on all MSFT maps.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29824903</id>
	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256146980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>they should be ashamed by their inability to accomodate other cultures</p></div><p>That's funny because I suspect that the reason why English is so difficult to learn and has so many exceptions to the rules is because it has been influenced by many other languages with different rules. In English, there are words from the Vikings, French, German, Italian, Spanish, Native American, and African.</p><p>Proof that we aren't too proud to admit when another language has a good word, we add it to our own. Now you may commence to calling us thieves for stealing your culture.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>they should be ashamed by their inability to accomodate other culturesThat 's funny because I suspect that the reason why English is so difficult to learn and has so many exceptions to the rules is because it has been influenced by many other languages with different rules .
In English , there are words from the Vikings , French , German , Italian , Spanish , Native American , and African.Proof that we are n't too proud to admit when another language has a good word , we add it to our own .
Now you may commence to calling us thieves for stealing your culture .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>they should be ashamed by their inability to accomodate other culturesThat's funny because I suspect that the reason why English is so difficult to learn and has so many exceptions to the rules is because it has been influenced by many other languages with different rules.
In English, there are words from the Vikings, French, German, Italian, Spanish, Native American, and African.Proof that we aren't too proud to admit when another language has a good word, we add it to our own.
Now you may commence to calling us thieves for stealing your culture.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29822567</id>
	<title>How about that calendar?</title>
	<author>drumcat</author>
	<datestamp>1256135700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You guys wanna get anal about this stuff?

We should have 13 months of 28 days (364 days) and a tack-on day, since there's 13 lunar cycles a year.  Instead, we had some nutcase priest named Greg or something that decided back in the Crusading days.

We should have a clock that does not change.  Instead, we have Ben Franklin's BS.  Congress in 2007 spent $150M studying DST, and found it was actually a net loss in energy.

We should not have time zones.  We should have a set UTC, and businesses and people adjust to that clock.

We should have a day system similar to Internet Time a la Swatch.  It may not have gone anywhere, but it's actually as clear as can be.  It would be a great system to adopt.

And finally, the reason that the metric system never caught on in Imperial areas is because while it makes sense, people have a tendency to handle smaller numbers better.  Feet are often used in everyday measurements because they have actual feet on their body.  We don't have meters on our body.  If we could come up with something in the Metric system, maybe call it a "Third", you could convert people.  30 centimeters is user-unfriendly.  So is 450ml when you can have a pint, though that's less a problem.

People don't have to be adjusted into these new distance schemes.  Just make gas be sold by liter, and put all road signs with km (mi), and tell detroit that all cars have to be km friendly.  It's really not hard; we just don't have the spine politically to move the needle on something that is truly important, but often overlooked at trivial.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You guys wan na get anal about this stuff ?
We should have 13 months of 28 days ( 364 days ) and a tack-on day , since there 's 13 lunar cycles a year .
Instead , we had some nutcase priest named Greg or something that decided back in the Crusading days .
We should have a clock that does not change .
Instead , we have Ben Franklin 's BS .
Congress in 2007 spent $ 150M studying DST , and found it was actually a net loss in energy .
We should not have time zones .
We should have a set UTC , and businesses and people adjust to that clock .
We should have a day system similar to Internet Time a la Swatch .
It may not have gone anywhere , but it 's actually as clear as can be .
It would be a great system to adopt .
And finally , the reason that the metric system never caught on in Imperial areas is because while it makes sense , people have a tendency to handle smaller numbers better .
Feet are often used in everyday measurements because they have actual feet on their body .
We do n't have meters on our body .
If we could come up with something in the Metric system , maybe call it a " Third " , you could convert people .
30 centimeters is user-unfriendly .
So is 450ml when you can have a pint , though that 's less a problem .
People do n't have to be adjusted into these new distance schemes .
Just make gas be sold by liter , and put all road signs with km ( mi ) , and tell detroit that all cars have to be km friendly .
It 's really not hard ; we just do n't have the spine politically to move the needle on something that is truly important , but often overlooked at trivial .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You guys wanna get anal about this stuff?
We should have 13 months of 28 days (364 days) and a tack-on day, since there's 13 lunar cycles a year.
Instead, we had some nutcase priest named Greg or something that decided back in the Crusading days.
We should have a clock that does not change.
Instead, we have Ben Franklin's BS.
Congress in 2007 spent $150M studying DST, and found it was actually a net loss in energy.
We should not have time zones.
We should have a set UTC, and businesses and people adjust to that clock.
We should have a day system similar to Internet Time a la Swatch.
It may not have gone anywhere, but it's actually as clear as can be.
It would be a great system to adopt.
And finally, the reason that the metric system never caught on in Imperial areas is because while it makes sense, people have a tendency to handle smaller numbers better.
Feet are often used in everyday measurements because they have actual feet on their body.
We don't have meters on our body.
If we could come up with something in the Metric system, maybe call it a "Third", you could convert people.
30 centimeters is user-unfriendly.
So is 450ml when you can have a pint, though that's less a problem.
People don't have to be adjusted into these new distance schemes.
Just make gas be sold by liter, and put all road signs with km (mi), and tell detroit that all cars have to be km friendly.
It's really not hard; we just don't have the spine politically to move the needle on something that is truly important, but often overlooked at trivial.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29822903</id>
	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>IndustrialComplex</author>
	<datestamp>1256137320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Really, native English speakers shouldn't be chauvenistic about the fact the rest of the world is speaking their language, they should be ashamed by their inability to accomodate other cultures, and humbled by the fact other people go through the length of learning theirs.</i></p><p>Oh give me a break.  Let's turn it around and look at it in terms of best value for your effort.  Compare the choices between two people.  A non-English speaker and a native speaker.  The Non-native speaker can choose English, which provides much more utility than the Native english speaker picking any other language.   Unless you plan to speak only with a certain culture, learning a language other than English is going to be much more limited in its utility.</p><p>I speak Spanish fluently.  When I went to Europe, do you know how many people I ran into who spoke Spanish?  Two.  And those two were American tourists!  Aside from 3 people, the rest all spoke enough English that we could conduct business.  Of course, I didn't go to Spain, but that's the point.  My second language was basically only useful in very select geographic regions.</p><p>So someone learns English, and they learn a language that has a great deal of utility, and a high likelyhood when compared to other languages of being useful in a foreign country.   If you learn any other language, the probability of it being useful anywhere other than the countries where it originated is reduced.</p><p>In the US we DO learn other languages, but we never get a chance to use them so we end up forgetting them.  In school I had the opportunity to learn Latin, Russian, and Spanish.  French, and German was also offered.   But other than a few passing times have I ever even had the chance to practice Spanish.   Hell, I use Latin more often than any of the modern European languages.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Really , native English speakers should n't be chauvenistic about the fact the rest of the world is speaking their language , they should be ashamed by their inability to accomodate other cultures , and humbled by the fact other people go through the length of learning theirs.Oh give me a break .
Let 's turn it around and look at it in terms of best value for your effort .
Compare the choices between two people .
A non-English speaker and a native speaker .
The Non-native speaker can choose English , which provides much more utility than the Native english speaker picking any other language .
Unless you plan to speak only with a certain culture , learning a language other than English is going to be much more limited in its utility.I speak Spanish fluently .
When I went to Europe , do you know how many people I ran into who spoke Spanish ?
Two. And those two were American tourists !
Aside from 3 people , the rest all spoke enough English that we could conduct business .
Of course , I did n't go to Spain , but that 's the point .
My second language was basically only useful in very select geographic regions.So someone learns English , and they learn a language that has a great deal of utility , and a high likelyhood when compared to other languages of being useful in a foreign country .
If you learn any other language , the probability of it being useful anywhere other than the countries where it originated is reduced.In the US we DO learn other languages , but we never get a chance to use them so we end up forgetting them .
In school I had the opportunity to learn Latin , Russian , and Spanish .
French , and German was also offered .
But other than a few passing times have I ever even had the chance to practice Spanish .
Hell , I use Latin more often than any of the modern European languages .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really, native English speakers shouldn't be chauvenistic about the fact the rest of the world is speaking their language, they should be ashamed by their inability to accomodate other cultures, and humbled by the fact other people go through the length of learning theirs.Oh give me a break.
Let's turn it around and look at it in terms of best value for your effort.
Compare the choices between two people.
A non-English speaker and a native speaker.
The Non-native speaker can choose English, which provides much more utility than the Native english speaker picking any other language.
Unless you plan to speak only with a certain culture, learning a language other than English is going to be much more limited in its utility.I speak Spanish fluently.
When I went to Europe, do you know how many people I ran into who spoke Spanish?
Two.  And those two were American tourists!
Aside from 3 people, the rest all spoke enough English that we could conduct business.
Of course, I didn't go to Spain, but that's the point.
My second language was basically only useful in very select geographic regions.So someone learns English, and they learn a language that has a great deal of utility, and a high likelyhood when compared to other languages of being useful in a foreign country.
If you learn any other language, the probability of it being useful anywhere other than the countries where it originated is reduced.In the US we DO learn other languages, but we never get a chance to use them so we end up forgetting them.
In school I had the opportunity to learn Latin, Russian, and Spanish.
French, and German was also offered.
But other than a few passing times have I ever even had the chance to practice Spanish.
Hell, I use Latin more often than any of the modern European languages.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29820733</id>
	<title>Happy birthday to 180th meridian too !</title>
	<author>ls671</author>
	<datestamp>1256119560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And don't forget the 180th meridian that came with it. When you cross the 180th meridian, you have to set your watch back/forward 23 hours !</p><p>Quite a few people are unaware of it<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-))</p><p><a href="http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1919PA.....27..416F" title="harvard.edu">http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1919PA.....27..416F</a> [harvard.edu]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And do n't forget the 180th meridian that came with it .
When you cross the 180th meridian , you have to set your watch back/forward 23 hours ! Quite a few people are unaware of it ; - ) ) http : //adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1919PA.....27..416F [ harvard.edu ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And don't forget the 180th meridian that came with it.
When you cross the 180th meridian, you have to set your watch back/forward 23 hours !Quite a few people are unaware of it ;-))http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1919PA.....27..416F [harvard.edu]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29820747</id>
	<title>I'm a Greenwich resident</title>
	<author>TheReal\_sabret00the</author>
	<datestamp>1256119740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's a wonderful thing to live a phlegms breath away from such a staple part of our species everyday lives.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a wonderful thing to live a phlegms breath away from such a staple part of our species everyday lives .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a wonderful thing to live a phlegms breath away from such a staple part of our species everyday lives.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29821819</id>
	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>catmistake</author>
	<datestamp>1256130960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Consideringit's estimated that citizens of hispanic decent will be a majority in the US in 20 years (thanks, Catholic birth control methods!), Spanish is a reasonable choice.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Consideringit 's estimated that citizens of hispanic decent will be a majority in the US in 20 years ( thanks , Catholic birth control methods !
) , Spanish is a reasonable choice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Consideringit's estimated that citizens of hispanic decent will be a majority in the US in 20 years (thanks, Catholic birth control methods!
), Spanish is a reasonable choice.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29830633</id>
	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>StikyPad</author>
	<datestamp>1256131620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>French is on its way down, not up.  Once the diplomatic language of Europe, it has long since been supplanted by English.  In almost every non-French speaking country, you're far more likely to find English speakers than French, be it European, Mid-East, Asian, African, or South American.  In sheer numbers, Mandarin Chinese is the most popular language, but that won't do you much good outside of China.  Spanish and English are essentially tied for second, with variations according to who's counting, and the methodology used.  Spanish will come in handy in much of South America, though not so much in Brazil, French Guiana, or Suriname.  Outside of South America, it has limited utility, although it shares much in common with other Romantic languages like French and Italian.</p><p>In my opinion, the benefit of a native English speaker learning a second language is not necessarily in its practical value, but in gaining a deeper understanding of how language influences thought and communication.  Many languages have verbs, adjectives, and of course idioms, that simply don't exist in other languages.  From that perspective, it's not so important *which* language you learn, as it is *that* you learn another language at all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>French is on its way down , not up .
Once the diplomatic language of Europe , it has long since been supplanted by English .
In almost every non-French speaking country , you 're far more likely to find English speakers than French , be it European , Mid-East , Asian , African , or South American .
In sheer numbers , Mandarin Chinese is the most popular language , but that wo n't do you much good outside of China .
Spanish and English are essentially tied for second , with variations according to who 's counting , and the methodology used .
Spanish will come in handy in much of South America , though not so much in Brazil , French Guiana , or Suriname .
Outside of South America , it has limited utility , although it shares much in common with other Romantic languages like French and Italian.In my opinion , the benefit of a native English speaker learning a second language is not necessarily in its practical value , but in gaining a deeper understanding of how language influences thought and communication .
Many languages have verbs , adjectives , and of course idioms , that simply do n't exist in other languages .
From that perspective , it 's not so important * which * language you learn , as it is * that * you learn another language at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>French is on its way down, not up.
Once the diplomatic language of Europe, it has long since been supplanted by English.
In almost every non-French speaking country, you're far more likely to find English speakers than French, be it European, Mid-East, Asian, African, or South American.
In sheer numbers, Mandarin Chinese is the most popular language, but that won't do you much good outside of China.
Spanish and English are essentially tied for second, with variations according to who's counting, and the methodology used.
Spanish will come in handy in much of South America, though not so much in Brazil, French Guiana, or Suriname.
Outside of South America, it has limited utility, although it shares much in common with other Romantic languages like French and Italian.In my opinion, the benefit of a native English speaker learning a second language is not necessarily in its practical value, but in gaining a deeper understanding of how language influences thought and communication.
Many languages have verbs, adjectives, and of course idioms, that simply don't exist in other languages.
From that perspective, it's not so important *which* language you learn, as it is *that* you learn another language at all.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29820895</id>
	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>razvan784</author>
	<datestamp>1256121900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO\_8601" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">ISO 8601</a> [wikipedia.org] doesn't favor the US or the other notation.</htmltext>
<tokenext>ISO 8601 [ wikipedia.org ] does n't favor the US or the other notation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ISO 8601 [wikipedia.org] doesn't favor the US or the other notation.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29821385</id>
	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>Mashiki</author>
	<datestamp>1256127360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I believe the way they put it when we write our notes for logs is: Use a system for dates.  It doesn't matter if it's not the standard in north america.  But use a system that works for you.  Sometimes retraining someone to a new one simply screws them up.</p><p>Mine is yyyy/mo/dd, my friends is yyyy/dd/mo, one of the inspectors(OPP) that I was taught by uses dd/mo/yyyy.  All three are valid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe the way they put it when we write our notes for logs is : Use a system for dates .
It does n't matter if it 's not the standard in north america .
But use a system that works for you .
Sometimes retraining someone to a new one simply screws them up.Mine is yyyy/mo/dd , my friends is yyyy/dd/mo , one of the inspectors ( OPP ) that I was taught by uses dd/mo/yyyy .
All three are valid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe the way they put it when we write our notes for logs is: Use a system for dates.
It doesn't matter if it's not the standard in north america.
But use a system that works for you.
Sometimes retraining someone to a new one simply screws them up.Mine is yyyy/mo/dd, my friends is yyyy/dd/mo, one of the inspectors(OPP) that I was taught by uses dd/mo/yyyy.
All three are valid.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29822607</id>
	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256135880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Also, the written form Americans use causes a lot of confusion when dealing with non-Americans who use yyyy-mm-dd, dd/mm/yyyy or yyyy/mm/dd.</p></div><p>Why the hell do you think we do it?</p><p>You know we work REALLY REALLY hard to piss you guys off.. I mean we even elected a NICE president this time around just so we could fuck with you and elect Hitler next time... And yes I do mean "The Hitler". He flew out on that last plane that took off from the street right outside the bunker right before the Ruskies took it. We picked him up a few days later trying to enter Sweden. Apparently he had a bunch of gold in some bank there or something, who knows... Anyway we've had to replace most of his body over the years with alien implants we got from the Roswell crash but still you guys are just going to FREAK!</p><p>Hummmm, I wonder what you will think when we start a third war on terror, involving our own terror campaign... We like to call it... Where on earth did those Yankees hide that Hydrogen Bomb!</p></div>
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<tokenext>Also , the written form Americans use causes a lot of confusion when dealing with non-Americans who use yyyy-mm-dd , dd/mm/yyyy or yyyy/mm/dd.Why the hell do you think we do it ? You know we work REALLY REALLY hard to piss you guys off.. I mean we even elected a NICE president this time around just so we could fuck with you and elect Hitler next time... And yes I do mean " The Hitler " .
He flew out on that last plane that took off from the street right outside the bunker right before the Ruskies took it .
We picked him up a few days later trying to enter Sweden .
Apparently he had a bunch of gold in some bank there or something , who knows... Anyway we 've had to replace most of his body over the years with alien implants we got from the Roswell crash but still you guys are just going to FREAK ! Hummmm , I wonder what you will think when we start a third war on terror , involving our own terror campaign... We like to call it... Where on earth did those Yankees hide that Hydrogen Bomb !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also, the written form Americans use causes a lot of confusion when dealing with non-Americans who use yyyy-mm-dd, dd/mm/yyyy or yyyy/mm/dd.Why the hell do you think we do it?You know we work REALLY REALLY hard to piss you guys off.. I mean we even elected a NICE president this time around just so we could fuck with you and elect Hitler next time... And yes I do mean "The Hitler".
He flew out on that last plane that took off from the street right outside the bunker right before the Ruskies took it.
We picked him up a few days later trying to enter Sweden.
Apparently he had a bunch of gold in some bank there or something, who knows... Anyway we've had to replace most of his body over the years with alien implants we got from the Roswell crash but still you guys are just going to FREAK!Hummmm, I wonder what you will think when we start a third war on terror, involving our own terror campaign... We like to call it... Where on earth did those Yankees hide that Hydrogen Bomb!
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29823703</id>
	<title>Just goes to show you</title>
	<author>Sloppy</author>
	<datestamp>1256141280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No matter how much Jesus-haters proclaim the truthiness of their "science," continental drift is still Just A Theory.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No matter how much Jesus-haters proclaim the truthiness of their " science , " continental drift is still Just A Theory .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No matter how much Jesus-haters proclaim the truthiness of their "science," continental drift is still Just A Theory.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29821407</id>
	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>Hognoxious</author>
	<datestamp>1256127480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>It's perfect for D&amp;D. "I advance five feet" is much more immersive than "I advance two meters".</p></div></blockquote><p>Is that dwarf feet, orc feet or hobbit feet?</p></div>
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<tokenext>It 's perfect for D&amp;D .
" I advance five feet " is much more immersive than " I advance two meters " .Is that dwarf feet , orc feet or hobbit feet ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's perfect for D&amp;D.
"I advance five feet" is much more immersive than "I advance two meters".Is that dwarf feet, orc feet or hobbit feet?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29832021</id>
	<title>Longevity</title>
	<author>PingPongBoy</author>
	<datestamp>1256148180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><em> 72\% of the world's shipping already depended on sea charts</em></p><p>With this kind of usage share, one may reasonably expect Internet Explorer to also stick around for another century and a quarter.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>72 \ % of the world 's shipping already depended on sea chartsWith this kind of usage share , one may reasonably expect Internet Explorer to also stick around for another century and a quarter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> 72\% of the world's shipping already depended on sea chartsWith this kind of usage share, one may reasonably expect Internet Explorer to also stick around for another century and a quarter.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29824241</id>
	<title>Brack</title>
	<author>SnarfQuest</author>
	<datestamp>1256143980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Obama went to the comittee, aold them about his typical white grandmother, how his fauther abandoned kids all over the place, and how the US was the most evil country to have ever existed. Chicago was still outed in the first round.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Obama went to the comittee , aold them about his typical white grandmother , how his fauther abandoned kids all over the place , and how the US was the most evil country to have ever existed .
Chicago was still outed in the first round .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Obama went to the comittee, aold them about his typical white grandmother, how his fauther abandoned kids all over the place, and how the US was the most evil country to have ever existed.
Chicago was still outed in the first round.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29824901</id>
	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256146980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>People in other English speaking countries say it correctly too (e.g. "[the] first of April two thousand and ten"). Americans say it wrong because they write it wrong.</p></div><p>Two thousand <i>and</i> ten?  And ten what?  Or did you mean <i>two thousand ten</i>?</p><p>BTW, Americans don't say it wrong - <i>they say it differently.</i>  Get over it and stop making mountains out of molehills.</p></div>
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<tokenext>People in other English speaking countries say it correctly too ( e.g .
" [ the ] first of April two thousand and ten " ) .
Americans say it wrong because they write it wrong.Two thousand and ten ?
And ten what ?
Or did you mean two thousand ten ? BTW , Americans do n't say it wrong - they say it differently .
Get over it and stop making mountains out of molehills .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People in other English speaking countries say it correctly too (e.g.
"[the] first of April two thousand and ten").
Americans say it wrong because they write it wrong.Two thousand and ten?
And ten what?
Or did you mean two thousand ten?BTW, Americans don't say it wrong - they say it differently.
Get over it and stop making mountains out of molehills.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29821079</id>
	<title>Re:Happy birthday to 180th meridian too !</title>
	<author>niktemadur</author>
	<datestamp>1256124000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Reminds me of that limerick:</p><p>A young rocket scientist named Wright<br>once traveled much faster than light<br>He set out one day, in a relative way<br>and arrived on the previous night</p><p>Instead of going through the hassle of upgrading an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project\_Orion\_(nuclear\_propulsion)" title="wikipedia.org">Orion Project</a> [wikipedia.org] spaceship, all one has to do is fly conventionally from Honolulu to Tokyo.<br>Now they tell me!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Reminds me of that limerick : A young rocket scientist named Wrightonce traveled much faster than lightHe set out one day , in a relative wayand arrived on the previous nightInstead of going through the hassle of upgrading an Orion Project [ wikipedia.org ] spaceship , all one has to do is fly conventionally from Honolulu to Tokyo.Now they tell me !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reminds me of that limerick:A young rocket scientist named Wrightonce traveled much faster than lightHe set out one day, in a relative wayand arrived on the previous nightInstead of going through the hassle of upgrading an Orion Project [wikipedia.org] spaceship, all one has to do is fly conventionally from Honolulu to Tokyo.Now they tell me!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29820755</id>
	<title>125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256119920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder how much longer it will take for the US to catch up?</p><p>For example, we continue to teach date formatted in a completely nonsense format (MM/DD/YYYY) instead of either high to low (YYYY/MM/DD) or low to high (DD/MM/YYYY) like the rest of the world. Plus using AM/PM instead of 24 hour ("Military Time") again like the rest of the civilised world.</p><p>Don't even get me started on our lack of metric....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder how much longer it will take for the US to catch up ? For example , we continue to teach date formatted in a completely nonsense format ( MM/DD/YYYY ) instead of either high to low ( YYYY/MM/DD ) or low to high ( DD/MM/YYYY ) like the rest of the world .
Plus using AM/PM instead of 24 hour ( " Military Time " ) again like the rest of the civilised world.Do n't even get me started on our lack of metric... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder how much longer it will take for the US to catch up?For example, we continue to teach date formatted in a completely nonsense format (MM/DD/YYYY) instead of either high to low (YYYY/MM/DD) or low to high (DD/MM/YYYY) like the rest of the world.
Plus using AM/PM instead of 24 hour ("Military Time") again like the rest of the civilised world.Don't even get me started on our lack of metric....</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29827507</id>
	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>jeremyp</author>
	<datestamp>1256157600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Spanish would be the obvious first choice since a variation on it is used in large parts of the Americas (including the USA).  It also (I am told) gives you a head start in Italian and Portuguese.</p><p>What I do is learn a few words of the language of the country I am going to.  When I need to communicate with a native, I speak as well as I can in their language in an excruciating accent and the native, realising I am actually making an effort, immediately switches to English.</p><p>This is particularly effective with the French who are notorious for being able to speak English but not bothering, because, hey, it's their country, why should they? However, if you begin the communication in French, they appreciate the fact that you tried.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Spanish would be the obvious first choice since a variation on it is used in large parts of the Americas ( including the USA ) .
It also ( I am told ) gives you a head start in Italian and Portuguese.What I do is learn a few words of the language of the country I am going to .
When I need to communicate with a native , I speak as well as I can in their language in an excruciating accent and the native , realising I am actually making an effort , immediately switches to English.This is particularly effective with the French who are notorious for being able to speak English but not bothering , because , hey , it 's their country , why should they ?
However , if you begin the communication in French , they appreciate the fact that you tried .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Spanish would be the obvious first choice since a variation on it is used in large parts of the Americas (including the USA).
It also (I am told) gives you a head start in Italian and Portuguese.What I do is learn a few words of the language of the country I am going to.
When I need to communicate with a native, I speak as well as I can in their language in an excruciating accent and the native, realising I am actually making an effort, immediately switches to English.This is particularly effective with the French who are notorious for being able to speak English but not bothering, because, hey, it's their country, why should they?
However, if you begin the communication in French, they appreciate the fact that you tried.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29821659</id>
	<title>Re:125 MORE years until the US gets time...</title>
	<author>Neoprofin</author>
	<datestamp>1256129700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Funny, most of the Europeans I know that speak English do most of their speaking in it to others who learned it as a second language as a solution to living on a continent with a dozen languages and no logical reason to know all of them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Funny , most of the Europeans I know that speak English do most of their speaking in it to others who learned it as a second language as a solution to living on a continent with a dozen languages and no logical reason to know all of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funny, most of the Europeans I know that speak English do most of their speaking in it to others who learned it as a second language as a solution to living on a continent with a dozen languages and no logical reason to know all of them.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29821275</id>
	<title>Greenwich... mmmm</title>
	<author>srussia</author>
	<datestamp>1256126340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And as always, I think grandpa Simpson's classic comment really sums up the attitude behind why so many Americans are reluctant to switching; &ldquo;My car gets forty rods to the hogshead, and that's the way I likes it!&rdquo;</p><p>/Mikael</p></div><p>Homer himself would say: Greenwich... mmmm.. pizza!</p></div>
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<tokenext>And as always , I think grandpa Simpson 's classic comment really sums up the attitude behind why so many Americans are reluctant to switching ;    My car gets forty rods to the hogshead , and that 's the way I likes it !    /MikaelHomer himself would say : Greenwich... mmmm.. pizza !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And as always, I think grandpa Simpson's classic comment really sums up the attitude behind why so many Americans are reluctant to switching; “My car gets forty rods to the hogshead, and that's the way I likes it!”/MikaelHomer himself would say: Greenwich... mmmm.. pizza!
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---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29821275
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-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_21_0043212.29822091
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