<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_18_2039251</id>
	<title>OpenBSD 4.6 Released</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1255869180000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://nevergain/" rel="nofollow">pgilman</a> writes <i>"The <a href="http://www.openbsd.org/plus46.html">release of OpenBSD 4.6</a> was announced today.  Highlights of the new release include a new privilege-separated smtpd; numerous improvements to packet filtering, software RAID, routing daemons, and the TCP stack; a new installer; and lots more. <a href="http://www.openbsd.org/orders.html">Grab a CD set</a> or <a href="http://www.openbsd.org/ftp.html">download from a mirror</a>, and please <a href="http://www.openbsd.org/donations.html">support the project</a> (which also brings you <a href="http://www.openssh.com/">OpenSSH</a> and lots of other great free software) if you can."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>pgilman writes " The release of OpenBSD 4.6 was announced today .
Highlights of the new release include a new privilege-separated smtpd ; numerous improvements to packet filtering , software RAID , routing daemons , and the TCP stack ; a new installer ; and lots more .
Grab a CD set or download from a mirror , and please support the project ( which also brings you OpenSSH and lots of other great free software ) if you can .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>pgilman writes "The release of OpenBSD 4.6 was announced today.
Highlights of the new release include a new privilege-separated smtpd; numerous improvements to packet filtering, software RAID, routing daemons, and the TCP stack; a new installer; and lots more.
Grab a CD set or download from a mirror, and please support the project (which also brings you OpenSSH and lots of other great free software) if you can.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29791999</id>
	<title>Re:October 18th is also its birthday</title>
	<author>aldm</author>
	<datestamp>1255954380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Many happy returns of your day. Many happy sales and donations.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Many happy returns of your day .
Many happy sales and donations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Many happy returns of your day.
Many happy sales and donations.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29789423</id>
	<title>Re:October 18th is also its birthday</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255883220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow, all this development time and the performance still sucks.</p><p>I applaud OBSD for their code auditing and security stuff but the performance totally blows.  It has to be one of the slowest (if not <em>the</em> slowest) modern OS out there.  And it's not slow because of security features, it's just poor coding and lack of modern features/drivers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , all this development time and the performance still sucks.I applaud OBSD for their code auditing and security stuff but the performance totally blows .
It has to be one of the slowest ( if not the slowest ) modern OS out there .
And it 's not slow because of security features , it 's just poor coding and lack of modern features/drivers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, all this development time and the performance still sucks.I applaud OBSD for their code auditing and security stuff but the performance totally blows.
It has to be one of the slowest (if not the slowest) modern OS out there.
And it's not slow because of security features, it's just poor coding and lack of modern features/drivers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788579</id>
	<title>Re:Still no torrent?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255875060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why would you make a torrent to distribute a 6MB CD<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.iso?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why would you make a torrent to distribute a 6MB CD .iso ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why would you make a torrent to distribute a 6MB CD .iso?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788507</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29797501</id>
	<title>Re:OpenBSD - not that secure...</title>
	<author>kestasjk</author>
	<datestamp>1255980540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Only two remote holes in the default install, in a heck of a long time!" just isn't the impressive statement it used to be.. When was the last Windows/Linux remote hole <i>in a default install</i>. Last I can remember was blaster, and you can bet Windows will have a hell of a lot more people looking for holes in it than OpenBSD.<br> <br>
Things like NX which OpenBSD rushed to emulate in software are now implemented in hardware on every modern computer. It's not the late 90s/early 2000 when robust security was a real selling point.<br> <br>

(FYI I use pf, openssh and freebsd, I'm not close-minded but I wouldn't feel any safer on OpenBSD)</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Only two remote holes in the default install , in a heck of a long time !
" just is n't the impressive statement it used to be.. When was the last Windows/Linux remote hole in a default install .
Last I can remember was blaster , and you can bet Windows will have a hell of a lot more people looking for holes in it than OpenBSD .
Things like NX which OpenBSD rushed to emulate in software are now implemented in hardware on every modern computer .
It 's not the late 90s/early 2000 when robust security was a real selling point .
( FYI I use pf , openssh and freebsd , I 'm not close-minded but I would n't feel any safer on OpenBSD )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Only two remote holes in the default install, in a heck of a long time!
" just isn't the impressive statement it used to be.. When was the last Windows/Linux remote hole in a default install.
Last I can remember was blaster, and you can bet Windows will have a hell of a lot more people looking for holes in it than OpenBSD.
Things like NX which OpenBSD rushed to emulate in software are now implemented in hardware on every modern computer.
It's not the late 90s/early 2000 when robust security was a real selling point.
(FYI I use pf, openssh and freebsd, I'm not close-minded but I wouldn't feel any safer on OpenBSD)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29790971</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29790863</id>
	<title>softraid</title>
	<author>RAMMS+EIN</author>
	<datestamp>1255895160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apparently, softraid is also included in the GENERIC kernel. This means that, unlike with the old RAIDframe, you don't have to compile your own kernel before you can use it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently , softraid is also included in the GENERIC kernel .
This means that , unlike with the old RAIDframe , you do n't have to compile your own kernel before you can use it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently, softraid is also included in the GENERIC kernel.
This means that, unlike with the old RAIDframe, you don't have to compile your own kernel before you can use it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788583</id>
	<title>Re:Torrent?</title>
	<author>rivaldufus</author>
	<datestamp>1255875120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They didn't have a full install iso until somewhat recently, as they felt that it would hurt their CD sales. I suppose they will do a bit torrent sometime, but probably not for a release or two.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They did n't have a full install iso until somewhat recently , as they felt that it would hurt their CD sales .
I suppose they will do a bit torrent sometime , but probably not for a release or two .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They didn't have a full install iso until somewhat recently, as they felt that it would hurt their CD sales.
I suppose they will do a bit torrent sometime, but probably not for a release or two.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788387</id>
	<title>October 18th is also its birthday</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255873080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OpenBSD is 14 as of today.</p><p>Today would be a great day for even a little gift.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OpenBSD is 14 as of today.Today would be a great day for even a little gift .
; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OpenBSD is 14 as of today.Today would be a great day for even a little gift.
;-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788869</id>
	<title>Re:Torrent?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255878120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The OpenBSD ISO is just a move to keep whiners quiet. And the CD is so Theo can eat.</p><p>Using the release/stable versions is not supported/recommended at all, even when they are the latest.</p><p>Patches for vulnerabilities in the base system are provided for the latest version, so if you run ssh/sftp server or a PF router you are okay, otherwise, you should update regularly to stay CURRENT.</p><p>Backporting bugfixes for obsolete versions of third party software is not something OpenBSD can afford to do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The OpenBSD ISO is just a move to keep whiners quiet .
And the CD is so Theo can eat.Using the release/stable versions is not supported/recommended at all , even when they are the latest.Patches for vulnerabilities in the base system are provided for the latest version , so if you run ssh/sftp server or a PF router you are okay , otherwise , you should update regularly to stay CURRENT.Backporting bugfixes for obsolete versions of third party software is not something OpenBSD can afford to do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The OpenBSD ISO is just a move to keep whiners quiet.
And the CD is so Theo can eat.Using the release/stable versions is not supported/recommended at all, even when they are the latest.Patches for vulnerabilities in the base system are provided for the latest version, so if you run ssh/sftp server or a PF router you are okay, otherwise, you should update regularly to stay CURRENT.Backporting bugfixes for obsolete versions of third party software is not something OpenBSD can afford to do.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788399</id>
	<title>Soft RAID?</title>
	<author>vawarayer</author>
	<datestamp>1255873140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OpenBSD just got Soft RAID support? What took you so long Theo?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OpenBSD just got Soft RAID support ?
What took you so long Theo ?
: P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OpenBSD just got Soft RAID support?
What took you so long Theo?
:P</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788507</id>
	<title>Still no torrent?</title>
	<author>phantomcircuit</author>
	<datestamp>1255874460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Come on! FreeBSD has been releasing via bittorrent for a while <a href="http://torrents.freebsd.org:8080/" title="freebsd.org" rel="nofollow">now</a> [freebsd.org]. Get with it OpenBSD!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Come on !
FreeBSD has been releasing via bittorrent for a while now [ freebsd.org ] .
Get with it OpenBSD !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Come on!
FreeBSD has been releasing via bittorrent for a while now [freebsd.org].
Get with it OpenBSD!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29790971</id>
	<title>Re:OpenBSD - not that secure...</title>
	<author>Spit</author>
	<datestamp>1255983000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OpenBSD's focus is preventing the exploits in the first place with many overflow vulnerabities in third-party software being non-exploitable on OpenBSD. After running it for 10 years, I trust OpenBSD's record. It has some of the best in the business probing it, and with the most serious flaw in years being a subtle IP6 attack, I think that trust is well founded. If you were to prove otherwise, I'm sure you would instantly be a big name in security.</p><p>Although sound design, role security is added complexity which increases scope for vulnerabilities. From coding errors to implementation errors, complexity breeds insecurity. They also create a false sense of security: having implemented RBAC on Solaris I was initially impressed until I realized one could bypass it with suid bombs.</p><p>OpenBSD's simple design and sound default permissions mean that even with a local account, it is very difficult to gain root access. The base system is comprehensive so usually there's little reason to go to ports to implement OpenBSD in its perimiter focused role.</p><p>You would do well to back up your claim that OpenBSD is snake-oil.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OpenBSD 's focus is preventing the exploits in the first place with many overflow vulnerabities in third-party software being non-exploitable on OpenBSD .
After running it for 10 years , I trust OpenBSD 's record .
It has some of the best in the business probing it , and with the most serious flaw in years being a subtle IP6 attack , I think that trust is well founded .
If you were to prove otherwise , I 'm sure you would instantly be a big name in security.Although sound design , role security is added complexity which increases scope for vulnerabilities .
From coding errors to implementation errors , complexity breeds insecurity .
They also create a false sense of security : having implemented RBAC on Solaris I was initially impressed until I realized one could bypass it with suid bombs.OpenBSD 's simple design and sound default permissions mean that even with a local account , it is very difficult to gain root access .
The base system is comprehensive so usually there 's little reason to go to ports to implement OpenBSD in its perimiter focused role.You would do well to back up your claim that OpenBSD is snake-oil .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OpenBSD's focus is preventing the exploits in the first place with many overflow vulnerabities in third-party software being non-exploitable on OpenBSD.
After running it for 10 years, I trust OpenBSD's record.
It has some of the best in the business probing it, and with the most serious flaw in years being a subtle IP6 attack, I think that trust is well founded.
If you were to prove otherwise, I'm sure you would instantly be a big name in security.Although sound design, role security is added complexity which increases scope for vulnerabilities.
From coding errors to implementation errors, complexity breeds insecurity.
They also create a false sense of security: having implemented RBAC on Solaris I was initially impressed until I realized one could bypass it with suid bombs.OpenBSD's simple design and sound default permissions mean that even with a local account, it is very difficult to gain root access.
The base system is comprehensive so usually there's little reason to go to ports to implement OpenBSD in its perimiter focused role.You would do well to back up your claim that OpenBSD is snake-oil.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29789533</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29789533</id>
	<title>OpenBSD - not that secure...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255883880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OpenBSD security is in large part overstated, and at worst, a myth.</p><p>Let us look at 3 main points, of which the last is the most important.</p><p>1. Secure by default. Yes, having services turned off by default is a good move. It also actually has nothing to do with the security of what you actually have running.</p><p>2. Auditing. Only the base system is audited. The ports are often quite far behind. Most attacks are not against "the base system".</p><p>3. Lastly...OpenBSD, by design, is not a secure system. A secure system is much, much more than just a lack of vulnerabilities. It is the ability to have controls and lock down things, to prevent unauthorized access. Instead, the OpenBSD approach does it's very best to assume that people don't get in, but does little to help when something does go wrong. Or,  you know, if you even wanted to actually restrict access with more than just the user/group scheme. Hell, they don't even have a basic ACL. VMS was a secure system. Very recent editions of Windows are well on their way to becoming secure systems. OpenBSD is not.</p><p>In fact, as it stands, Linux is a far, far more secure system, because of access to things like SELinux and RSBAC. These frameworks allow you to lock down and control every aspect of your system. Anything you want to restrict and how, you basically can. It takes the "everything is a file" philosophy to the next step. These systems are more secure for one simple reason. You should be prepared in case someone does, not simply try to eliminate all bugs all together, which while noble, is a flawed attempt. Not to mention the inability to restrict legitimate users on the system in a limiting way...</p><p>Instead, if someone successfully gets root on OpenBSD..then they have root, This is getting better with privilege separated stuff, but Linux had this in 3rd party patches about 10 years ago. With SELinux and RSBAC, you can remove the concept of root. If someone hacks a webserver...well, the webserver does not need write access, except maybe to tmp, it won't need execute access, it won't need to initiate outgoing connections, and it won't need write access, only append access to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/var/log. The attacker can't do anything, and you simply can't do something similar with OpenBSD.</p><p>In fact, despite Theo being staunchly opposed to such attempts, there was one. Systrace. It was nowhere near as powerful or flexible as the aforementioned frameworks, but it was a start. Instead, The developers decided to use an insecure technique, <a href="http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/garfinkel03traps.html" title="psu.edu" rel="nofollow">system call interposition</a> [psu.edu], shown to be insecure. After this they gave up.</p><p>OpenBSD is an extremely quality codebase, and it is more secure for small stuff and does make a good router or firewall. It is by no means a secure system though, and should not be hailed as one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OpenBSD security is in large part overstated , and at worst , a myth.Let us look at 3 main points , of which the last is the most important.1 .
Secure by default .
Yes , having services turned off by default is a good move .
It also actually has nothing to do with the security of what you actually have running.2 .
Auditing. Only the base system is audited .
The ports are often quite far behind .
Most attacks are not against " the base system " .3 .
Lastly...OpenBSD , by design , is not a secure system .
A secure system is much , much more than just a lack of vulnerabilities .
It is the ability to have controls and lock down things , to prevent unauthorized access .
Instead , the OpenBSD approach does it 's very best to assume that people do n't get in , but does little to help when something does go wrong .
Or , you know , if you even wanted to actually restrict access with more than just the user/group scheme .
Hell , they do n't even have a basic ACL .
VMS was a secure system .
Very recent editions of Windows are well on their way to becoming secure systems .
OpenBSD is not.In fact , as it stands , Linux is a far , far more secure system , because of access to things like SELinux and RSBAC .
These frameworks allow you to lock down and control every aspect of your system .
Anything you want to restrict and how , you basically can .
It takes the " everything is a file " philosophy to the next step .
These systems are more secure for one simple reason .
You should be prepared in case someone does , not simply try to eliminate all bugs all together , which while noble , is a flawed attempt .
Not to mention the inability to restrict legitimate users on the system in a limiting way...Instead , if someone successfully gets root on OpenBSD..then they have root , This is getting better with privilege separated stuff , but Linux had this in 3rd party patches about 10 years ago .
With SELinux and RSBAC , you can remove the concept of root .
If someone hacks a webserver...well , the webserver does not need write access , except maybe to tmp , it wo n't need execute access , it wo n't need to initiate outgoing connections , and it wo n't need write access , only append access to /var/log .
The attacker ca n't do anything , and you simply ca n't do something similar with OpenBSD.In fact , despite Theo being staunchly opposed to such attempts , there was one .
Systrace. It was nowhere near as powerful or flexible as the aforementioned frameworks , but it was a start .
Instead , The developers decided to use an insecure technique , system call interposition [ psu.edu ] , shown to be insecure .
After this they gave up.OpenBSD is an extremely quality codebase , and it is more secure for small stuff and does make a good router or firewall .
It is by no means a secure system though , and should not be hailed as one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OpenBSD security is in large part overstated, and at worst, a myth.Let us look at 3 main points, of which the last is the most important.1.
Secure by default.
Yes, having services turned off by default is a good move.
It also actually has nothing to do with the security of what you actually have running.2.
Auditing. Only the base system is audited.
The ports are often quite far behind.
Most attacks are not against "the base system".3.
Lastly...OpenBSD, by design, is not a secure system.
A secure system is much, much more than just a lack of vulnerabilities.
It is the ability to have controls and lock down things, to prevent unauthorized access.
Instead, the OpenBSD approach does it's very best to assume that people don't get in, but does little to help when something does go wrong.
Or,  you know, if you even wanted to actually restrict access with more than just the user/group scheme.
Hell, they don't even have a basic ACL.
VMS was a secure system.
Very recent editions of Windows are well on their way to becoming secure systems.
OpenBSD is not.In fact, as it stands, Linux is a far, far more secure system, because of access to things like SELinux and RSBAC.
These frameworks allow you to lock down and control every aspect of your system.
Anything you want to restrict and how, you basically can.
It takes the "everything is a file" philosophy to the next step.
These systems are more secure for one simple reason.
You should be prepared in case someone does, not simply try to eliminate all bugs all together, which while noble, is a flawed attempt.
Not to mention the inability to restrict legitimate users on the system in a limiting way...Instead, if someone successfully gets root on OpenBSD..then they have root, This is getting better with privilege separated stuff, but Linux had this in 3rd party patches about 10 years ago.
With SELinux and RSBAC, you can remove the concept of root.
If someone hacks a webserver...well, the webserver does not need write access, except maybe to tmp, it won't need execute access, it won't need to initiate outgoing connections, and it won't need write access, only append access to /var/log.
The attacker can't do anything, and you simply can't do something similar with OpenBSD.In fact, despite Theo being staunchly opposed to such attempts, there was one.
Systrace. It was nowhere near as powerful or flexible as the aforementioned frameworks, but it was a start.
Instead, The developers decided to use an insecure technique, system call interposition [psu.edu], shown to be insecure.
After this they gave up.OpenBSD is an extremely quality codebase, and it is more secure for small stuff and does make a good router or firewall.
It is by no means a secure system though, and should not be hailed as one.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29792755</id>
	<title>Re:The web server can finally serve large files</title>
	<author>vlm</author>
	<datestamp>1255960680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>When I looked at the release notes sent out by email, I saw this under "New functionality":<br>"httpd(8) can now serve files larger than 2GB in size."<br>I'm very surprised by this.</p></div><p>apache has been able to do that since 2.2.  Of course, a web page larger than 2 gigs is a bug not a feature...</p><p><a href="http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/new\_features\_2\_2.html" title="apache.org">http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/new\_features\_2\_2.html</a> [apache.org]</p><p>Large File Support<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; httpd is now built with support for files larger than 2GB on modern 32-bit Unix systems. Support for handling &gt;2GB request bodies has also been added.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>When I looked at the release notes sent out by email , I saw this under " New functionality " : " httpd ( 8 ) can now serve files larger than 2GB in size .
" I 'm very surprised by this.apache has been able to do that since 2.2 .
Of course , a web page larger than 2 gigs is a bug not a feature...http : //httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/new \ _features \ _2 \ _2.html [ apache.org ] Large File Support         httpd is now built with support for files larger than 2GB on modern 32-bit Unix systems .
Support for handling &gt; 2GB request bodies has also been added .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I looked at the release notes sent out by email, I saw this under "New functionality":"httpd(8) can now serve files larger than 2GB in size.
"I'm very surprised by this.apache has been able to do that since 2.2.
Of course, a web page larger than 2 gigs is a bug not a feature...http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/new\_features\_2\_2.html [apache.org]Large File Support
        httpd is now built with support for files larger than 2GB on modern 32-bit Unix systems.
Support for handling &gt;2GB request bodies has also been added.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29800685</id>
	<title>Re:I want to build an AP with openbsd</title>
	<author>Ant P.</author>
	<datestamp>1255949340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>+1 for the PC Engines stuff. Never used BSD, but they run fine with every bit of hardware I've stuck in them (had some success with a crazy 2 PCI wifi + USB 3G setup under Linux).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>+ 1 for the PC Engines stuff .
Never used BSD , but they run fine with every bit of hardware I 've stuck in them ( had some success with a crazy 2 PCI wifi + USB 3G setup under Linux ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>+1 for the PC Engines stuff.
Never used BSD, but they run fine with every bit of hardware I've stuck in them (had some success with a crazy 2 PCI wifi + USB 3G setup under Linux).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29793561</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29796213</id>
	<title>Re:OpenBSD - not that secure...</title>
	<author>metrix007</author>
	<datestamp>1255975980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My point was that OpenBSD is not a 'secure system', despite being quality code.</p><p>It provides no ways to limit or control the system, or to limit access if an attack does occur.</p><p>It is good practice to assume that an attack may occur, and be prepared for it.</p><p>I never said OpenBSD was snake oil, simply that it is not the secure system people seem to think it is.</p><p>And, no, you can't bypass RBAC with SUID bombs if it is set up correctly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My point was that OpenBSD is not a 'secure system ' , despite being quality code.It provides no ways to limit or control the system , or to limit access if an attack does occur.It is good practice to assume that an attack may occur , and be prepared for it.I never said OpenBSD was snake oil , simply that it is not the secure system people seem to think it is.And , no , you ca n't bypass RBAC with SUID bombs if it is set up correctly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My point was that OpenBSD is not a 'secure system', despite being quality code.It provides no ways to limit or control the system, or to limit access if an attack does occur.It is good practice to assume that an attack may occur, and be prepared for it.I never said OpenBSD was snake oil, simply that it is not the secure system people seem to think it is.And, no, you can't bypass RBAC with SUID bombs if it is set up correctly.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29790971</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29791347</id>
	<title>Re:OpenBSD - not that secure...</title>
	<author>atarashi</author>
	<datestamp>1255946460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, I beg to differ (what else<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p><p>OpenBSD does help you, when something goes wrong:<br>like for example with immuteable files, or append only files, so no one can delete your logfiles! At least you have the chance to look at what the "bad guys" did. Indeed a very fine feature for a logserver, isn't it?<br>Or OpenBSD secure modes?<br>Plus, you can put your WEB-Server in a jail, so *IF* someone breaks into your WEB-Server, well, the whole system is still NOT compromised.<br>Jails work very well! Maybe even better the the comparative Linux stuff...</p><p>And sorry, but SELinux is such a PITA, I've never seen anyone using it, mostly it is simply disabled, because it is the root cause of many problems.</p><p>Yes, VMS was a great system, but it is even deader the the *BSDs<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)<br>No, really, Application support on (Open)VMS is not so great, and Drivers for many addon-cards are noexistent. So, even if it was (is) good, it is in no way mass compatible.</p><p>To me, it seems you tried to put down OpenBSD in favor of something else (no namecalling, please!), but you failed, because your Points are rather incorrect.</p><p>But, what should I say more, be happy with whatever OS you're running and may you never be hacked.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I beg to differ ( what else ; - ) OpenBSD does help you , when something goes wrong : like for example with immuteable files , or append only files , so no one can delete your logfiles !
At least you have the chance to look at what the " bad guys " did .
Indeed a very fine feature for a logserver , is n't it ? Or OpenBSD secure modes ? Plus , you can put your WEB-Server in a jail , so * IF * someone breaks into your WEB-Server , well , the whole system is still NOT compromised.Jails work very well !
Maybe even better the the comparative Linux stuff...And sorry , but SELinux is such a PITA , I 've never seen anyone using it , mostly it is simply disabled , because it is the root cause of many problems.Yes , VMS was a great system , but it is even deader the the * BSDs ; - ) No , really , Application support on ( Open ) VMS is not so great , and Drivers for many addon-cards are noexistent .
So , even if it was ( is ) good , it is in no way mass compatible.To me , it seems you tried to put down OpenBSD in favor of something else ( no namecalling , please !
) , but you failed , because your Points are rather incorrect.But , what should I say more , be happy with whatever OS you 're running and may you never be hacked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, I beg to differ (what else ;-)OpenBSD does help you, when something goes wrong:like for example with immuteable files, or append only files, so no one can delete your logfiles!
At least you have the chance to look at what the "bad guys" did.
Indeed a very fine feature for a logserver, isn't it?Or OpenBSD secure modes?Plus, you can put your WEB-Server in a jail, so *IF* someone breaks into your WEB-Server, well, the whole system is still NOT compromised.Jails work very well!
Maybe even better the the comparative Linux stuff...And sorry, but SELinux is such a PITA, I've never seen anyone using it, mostly it is simply disabled, because it is the root cause of many problems.Yes, VMS was a great system, but it is even deader the the *BSDs ;-)No, really, Application support on (Open)VMS is not so great, and Drivers for many addon-cards are noexistent.
So, even if it was (is) good, it is in no way mass compatible.To me, it seems you tried to put down OpenBSD in favor of something else (no namecalling, please!
), but you failed, because your Points are rather incorrect.But, what should I say more, be happy with whatever OS you're running and may you never be hacked.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29789533</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788933</id>
	<title>Re:Still no torrent?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255878900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The slightly more conservative NetBSD even has bittorrent releases as the preferred method of distributing their disk images. Sometimes OpenBSD seems a little big and crufty in comparison, especially with the performance gains made by NetBSD in the last few releases.<br>
&nbsp; <br>I still remember being a high school kid trying to install OpenBSD on my 486 HP Vectra with 16MB of RAM. It should have been enough (16 was the OpenBSD minimum requirement), but the installer was slow, noticeably messy, and it even crashed at times. Eventually I switched to the more minimalist NetBSD, and it worked very nicely without the slowness and crashing. To this day, I think that NetBSD is one of the best and cleanest systems for people who want to learn Unix. While I appreciate the ideals of OpenBSD, it seems like their delivery is never as graceful or as smooth as it could be. By focusing on different security threats so much, maybe they miss the larger principles of clean design and simplicity.<br>
&nbsp; <br>In any case, no matter what version of *nix we use, we should be thankful to the OpenBSD people for their work on OpenSSH (including SFTP), which is remarkably useful for many purposes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The slightly more conservative NetBSD even has bittorrent releases as the preferred method of distributing their disk images .
Sometimes OpenBSD seems a little big and crufty in comparison , especially with the performance gains made by NetBSD in the last few releases .
  I still remember being a high school kid trying to install OpenBSD on my 486 HP Vectra with 16MB of RAM .
It should have been enough ( 16 was the OpenBSD minimum requirement ) , but the installer was slow , noticeably messy , and it even crashed at times .
Eventually I switched to the more minimalist NetBSD , and it worked very nicely without the slowness and crashing .
To this day , I think that NetBSD is one of the best and cleanest systems for people who want to learn Unix .
While I appreciate the ideals of OpenBSD , it seems like their delivery is never as graceful or as smooth as it could be .
By focusing on different security threats so much , maybe they miss the larger principles of clean design and simplicity .
  In any case , no matter what version of * nix we use , we should be thankful to the OpenBSD people for their work on OpenSSH ( including SFTP ) , which is remarkably useful for many purposes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The slightly more conservative NetBSD even has bittorrent releases as the preferred method of distributing their disk images.
Sometimes OpenBSD seems a little big and crufty in comparison, especially with the performance gains made by NetBSD in the last few releases.
  I still remember being a high school kid trying to install OpenBSD on my 486 HP Vectra with 16MB of RAM.
It should have been enough (16 was the OpenBSD minimum requirement), but the installer was slow, noticeably messy, and it even crashed at times.
Eventually I switched to the more minimalist NetBSD, and it worked very nicely without the slowness and crashing.
To this day, I think that NetBSD is one of the best and cleanest systems for people who want to learn Unix.
While I appreciate the ideals of OpenBSD, it seems like their delivery is never as graceful or as smooth as it could be.
By focusing on different security threats so much, maybe they miss the larger principles of clean design and simplicity.
  In any case, no matter what version of *nix we use, we should be thankful to the OpenBSD people for their work on OpenSSH (including SFTP), which is remarkably useful for many purposes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788507</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29790797</id>
	<title>They're behind - way behind . . .</title>
	<author>greenreaper</author>
	<datestamp>1255894320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>FreeBSD is already at 7.2! No way they can catch up now, unless they pull a Windows.</htmltext>
<tokenext>FreeBSD is already at 7.2 !
No way they can catch up now , unless they pull a Windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FreeBSD is already at 7.2!
No way they can catch up now, unless they pull a Windows.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788673</id>
	<title>Re:October 18th is also its birthday</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255875960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Theo, is that you?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Theo , is that you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Theo, is that you?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788387</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29791637</id>
	<title>BSD code is dangerous</title>
	<author>GNUPublicLicense</author>
	<datestamp>1255950480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... yes since you can close it. It is a threat to optimal open source code. Namely, the open source code is not optimal and you must buy the closed/improved version. The GNU GPL has a better balance for open source has it forbids fake open source like what we have with darwin/macos. Personnally the BSD licence would be great if it was protecting against closing the source.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... yes since you can close it .
It is a threat to optimal open source code .
Namely , the open source code is not optimal and you must buy the closed/improved version .
The GNU GPL has a better balance for open source has it forbids fake open source like what we have with darwin/macos .
Personnally the BSD licence would be great if it was protecting against closing the source .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... yes since you can close it.
It is a threat to optimal open source code.
Namely, the open source code is not optimal and you must buy the closed/improved version.
The GNU GPL has a better balance for open source has it forbids fake open source like what we have with darwin/macos.
Personnally the BSD licence would be great if it was protecting against closing the source.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788687</id>
	<title>Re:October 18th is also its birthday</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255876140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is also my birthday, although I am a bit older than that.<br>Some parts of OpenBSD suck, but I always keep coming back for more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is also my birthday , although I am a bit older than that.Some parts of OpenBSD suck , but I always keep coming back for more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is also my birthday, although I am a bit older than that.Some parts of OpenBSD suck, but I always keep coming back for more.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788387</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29789799</id>
	<title>mo3 up</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255885680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>wwW.anti-sLash.org</htmltext>
<tokenext>wwW.anti-sLash.org</tokentext>
<sentencetext>wwW.anti-sLash.org</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29790717</id>
	<title>Looks like a typical OpenBSD release</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255893480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Rock solid, thought through and very conservative.</p><p>They have their niche and do their best to serve it as good as they can. I'm very glad that this project exists even though I don't use OpenBSD but various of its offsprings (OpenSSH/SSL, etc.) only.<br>Theo is a very controversial person but at least he keeps the project on focus and going. Congratulations for that and best of luck for the future.<br>I don't see myself using OpenBSD anytime soon but I know a few people that do and they are happy with it. So keep going, the community needs you!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Rock solid , thought through and very conservative.They have their niche and do their best to serve it as good as they can .
I 'm very glad that this project exists even though I do n't use OpenBSD but various of its offsprings ( OpenSSH/SSL , etc .
) only.Theo is a very controversial person but at least he keeps the project on focus and going .
Congratulations for that and best of luck for the future.I do n't see myself using OpenBSD anytime soon but I know a few people that do and they are happy with it .
So keep going , the community needs you !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rock solid, thought through and very conservative.They have their niche and do their best to serve it as good as they can.
I'm very glad that this project exists even though I don't use OpenBSD but various of its offsprings (OpenSSH/SSL, etc.
) only.Theo is a very controversial person but at least he keeps the project on focus and going.
Congratulations for that and best of luck for the future.I don't see myself using OpenBSD anytime soon but I know a few people that do and they are happy with it.
So keep going, the community needs you!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788585</id>
	<title>Re:Still no torrent?</title>
	<author>dayid</author>
	<datestamp>1255875180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The x86 install disk is less than 6MB. Maybe when they have 4GB DVD iso's available like FreeBSD they'll feel the pain and go torrents?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The x86 install disk is less than 6MB .
Maybe when they have 4GB DVD iso 's available like FreeBSD they 'll feel the pain and go torrents ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The x86 install disk is less than 6MB.
Maybe when they have 4GB DVD iso's available like FreeBSD they'll feel the pain and go torrents?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788507</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788699</id>
	<title>Where's the song?</title>
	<author>martin-boundary</author>
	<datestamp>1255876380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Where's the <a href="http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html" title="openbsd.org">song</a> [openbsd.org]? There was supposed to be an earth-shattering song!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Where 's the song [ openbsd.org ] ?
There was supposed to be an earth-shattering song !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where's the song [openbsd.org]?
There was supposed to be an earth-shattering song!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29802483</id>
	<title>Lot New Affliction Belt DB Handbags Armani Sunglas</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255959360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
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shoes SB dunk $ 28-42 free shiping .
  OUR WEBSITE :                                                         YAHOO : shoppertrade @ yahoo.com.cn                                                                 MSN : shoppertrade @ hotmail.com                                                                           Http : //www.tntshoes.com</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
  Welcome TO Our Website:
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29797353</id>
	<title>Re:The web server can finally serve large files</title>
	<author>kestasjk</author>
	<datestamp>1255980000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I know, isn't it great?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-) They're still working on the 8.3 filename limitation, but let no-one say UFS is standing still!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I know , is n't it great ?
: - ) They 're still working on the 8.3 filename limitation , but let no-one say UFS is standing still !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know, isn't it great?
:-) They're still working on the 8.3 filename limitation, but let no-one say UFS is standing still!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29790137</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29797839</id>
	<title>Re:I want to build an AP with openbsd</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255981980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a PC Engines ALIX 2d3 doing this right now, with a Ralink-based Mini-PCI card (speaking 11g -- OpenBSD doesn't support 11n, at least not yet).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a PC Engines ALIX 2d3 doing this right now , with a Ralink-based Mini-PCI card ( speaking 11g -- OpenBSD does n't support 11n , at least not yet ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a PC Engines ALIX 2d3 doing this right now, with a Ralink-based Mini-PCI card (speaking 11g -- OpenBSD doesn't support 11n, at least not yet).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29793561</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29792457</id>
	<title>Re:Where's the song?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255958700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
I swear the release songs are what excites me the most about each OpenBSD release song.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)
</p><p>
I also find myself agreeing with most of them too. This last one is particularly poignant. I feel the same way a lot of the time, that the technology is trying to be too controlling, that there is too much (technological) power in the hands of the big monopolies, that our choices are dwindling and we must defend them.
</p><p>
Don't ask me to rationally defend all these positions. I just don't like one-button iPods, locked down formats, binary-only blobs, and whereas most every other user of technology is happy with them, I am not.
</p><p>
Give me back my <a href="http://shellgames.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/mel-gibson-braveheart-photograph-c101019223.jpg" title="wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">free software</a> [wordpress.com], please.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I swear the release songs are what excites me the most about each OpenBSD release song .
: - ) I also find myself agreeing with most of them too .
This last one is particularly poignant .
I feel the same way a lot of the time , that the technology is trying to be too controlling , that there is too much ( technological ) power in the hands of the big monopolies , that our choices are dwindling and we must defend them .
Do n't ask me to rationally defend all these positions .
I just do n't like one-button iPods , locked down formats , binary-only blobs , and whereas most every other user of technology is happy with them , I am not .
Give me back my free software [ wordpress.com ] , please .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I swear the release songs are what excites me the most about each OpenBSD release song.
:-)

I also find myself agreeing with most of them too.
This last one is particularly poignant.
I feel the same way a lot of the time, that the technology is trying to be too controlling, that there is too much (technological) power in the hands of the big monopolies, that our choices are dwindling and we must defend them.
Don't ask me to rationally defend all these positions.
I just don't like one-button iPods, locked down formats, binary-only blobs, and whereas most every other user of technology is happy with them, I am not.
Give me back my free software [wordpress.com], please.
</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29791357</id>
	<title>Installing OpenBSD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255946580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Setup a user? (enter a lower-case loginname, or 'no') [no]</p></div><p>yes</p><p><div class="quote"><p>No really, what is the lower-case loginname, or 'no'? [no]</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Setup a user ?
( enter a lower-case loginname , or 'no ' ) [ no ] yesNo really , what is the lower-case loginname , or 'no ' ?
[ no ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Setup a user?
(enter a lower-case loginname, or 'no') [no]yesNo really, what is the lower-case loginname, or 'no'?
[no]
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29789083</id>
	<title>Update link in story</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255880460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The story points to plus46.html which isn't useful for a general distribution announcement like this.  Here's a much better choice (which includes a link to the plus46.html page):</p><p><a href="http://www.openbsd.org/46.html" title="openbsd.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.openbsd.org/46.html</a> [openbsd.org]</p><p>or</p><p><a href="http://www.sigmasoft.com/~openbsd/archives/html/openbsd-announce/2009-10/msg00001.html" title="sigmasoft.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sigmasoft.com/~openbsd/archives/html/openbsd-announce/2009-10/msg00001.html</a> [sigmasoft.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The story points to plus46.html which is n't useful for a general distribution announcement like this .
Here 's a much better choice ( which includes a link to the plus46.html page ) : http : //www.openbsd.org/46.html [ openbsd.org ] orhttp : //www.sigmasoft.com/ ~ openbsd/archives/html/openbsd-announce/2009-10/msg00001.html [ sigmasoft.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The story points to plus46.html which isn't useful for a general distribution announcement like this.
Here's a much better choice (which includes a link to the plus46.html page):http://www.openbsd.org/46.html [openbsd.org]orhttp://www.sigmasoft.com/~openbsd/archives/html/openbsd-announce/2009-10/msg00001.html [sigmasoft.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29789129</id>
	<title>Re:Still no torrent?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255881240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because while some people know how useful torrents are to distribute files, a non-trivial number just like using the word "torrent" because they think it makes them l337, or whatever.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because while some people know how useful torrents are to distribute files , a non-trivial number just like using the word " torrent " because they think it makes them l337 , or whatever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because while some people know how useful torrents are to distribute files, a non-trivial number just like using the word "torrent" because they think it makes them l337, or whatever.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788579</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29790137</id>
	<title>The web server can finally serve large files</title>
	<author>Mr.Ned</author>
	<datestamp>1255888140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I looked at the release notes sent out by email, I saw this under "New functionality":</p><p>"httpd(8) can now serve files larger than 2GB in size."</p><p>I'm very surprised by this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I looked at the release notes sent out by email , I saw this under " New functionality " : " httpd ( 8 ) can now serve files larger than 2GB in size .
" I 'm very surprised by this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I looked at the release notes sent out by email, I saw this under "New functionality":"httpd(8) can now serve files larger than 2GB in size.
"I'm very surprised by this.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29793561</id>
	<title>I want to build an AP with openbsd</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255964760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can someone recommend a good platform on which to run OpenBSD which will consume the lowest possible power and let me run a Wireless-G <em>and</em> a Wireless-N NIC in master mode at the same time? I also need 100baseT[x]. Ideally it would run from fairly broad DC power (8-18VDC). I want to spend minimal money<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) So far in the running are PC Engines, Mikrotik, and Soekris, in my current order of preference from most to least. I'm willing to have my mind changed, though. SD, USB, or CF storage, I don't care.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can someone recommend a good platform on which to run OpenBSD which will consume the lowest possible power and let me run a Wireless-G and a Wireless-N NIC in master mode at the same time ?
I also need 100baseT [ x ] .
Ideally it would run from fairly broad DC power ( 8-18VDC ) .
I want to spend minimal money : ) So far in the running are PC Engines , Mikrotik , and Soekris , in my current order of preference from most to least .
I 'm willing to have my mind changed , though .
SD , USB , or CF storage , I do n't care .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can someone recommend a good platform on which to run OpenBSD which will consume the lowest possible power and let me run a Wireless-G and a Wireless-N NIC in master mode at the same time?
I also need 100baseT[x].
Ideally it would run from fairly broad DC power (8-18VDC).
I want to spend minimal money :) So far in the running are PC Engines, Mikrotik, and Soekris, in my current order of preference from most to least.
I'm willing to have my mind changed, though.
SD, USB, or CF storage, I don't care.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788903</id>
	<title>Re:Yahoo!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255878540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en\_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/nutshell.html#INTRODUCTION-NUTSHELL-USERS" title="freebsd.org">http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en\_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/nutshell.html#INTRODUCTION-NUTSHELL-USERS</a> [freebsd.org]</p><p>Many, many not listed, one example is php.net.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.freebsd.org/doc/en \ _US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/nutshell.html # INTRODUCTION-NUTSHELL-USERS [ freebsd.org ] Many , many not listed , one example is php.net .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en\_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/nutshell.html#INTRODUCTION-NUTSHELL-USERS [freebsd.org]Many, many not listed, one example is php.net.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788551</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788735</id>
	<title>ISO Policy Explained</title>
	<author>nuckfuts</author>
	<datestamp>1255876920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OpenBSD's FAQ explains their choices regarding <a href="http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq3.html#ISO" title="openbsd.org">ISO
  images</a> [openbsd.org].</p><p>I like to install OpenBSD from a <a href="ftp://openbsd.arcticnetwork.ca/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/i386/floppy46.fs" title="arcticnetwork.ca">floppy
  image</a> [arcticnetwork.ca] - only 1.44 MB! I then choose an <a href="http://www.openbsd.org/ftp.html" title="openbsd.org">FTP
  mirror</a> [openbsd.org] and install whatever parts I want on the fly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OpenBSD 's FAQ explains their choices regarding ISO images [ openbsd.org ] .I like to install OpenBSD from a floppy image [ arcticnetwork.ca ] - only 1.44 MB !
I then choose an FTP mirror [ openbsd.org ] and install whatever parts I want on the fly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OpenBSD's FAQ explains their choices regarding ISO
  images [openbsd.org].I like to install OpenBSD from a floppy
  image [arcticnetwork.ca] - only 1.44 MB!
I then choose an FTP
  mirror [openbsd.org] and install whatever parts I want on the fly.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788475</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29792115</id>
	<title>Hardware Support</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255955700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I love the idea of OpenBSD, but I've found it lacking in hardware support, even when a driver exists in FreeBSD/Linux.<br>I know Theo has a thing against binary blobs (and that's adorable), but even hardware that is well supported by hte manufacturer is notably absent.</p><p>For example, does this version of OpenBSD support the SUPERMICRO AOC-SAT2-MV8?<br>This is a popular card because it is extremely cheap and works in pretty much any modern PCI port.<br>The source code for the driver comes with the card on a CD (although I'm not certain what license).<br>The driver on the CD can be compiled for Windows or Linux (and I think the driver is in most base Linux distros).<br>Also, FreeBSD has supported this card for some time.  (So even if there is a licensing issue, there is still some BSD licensed code that they can steal.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I love the idea of OpenBSD , but I 've found it lacking in hardware support , even when a driver exists in FreeBSD/Linux.I know Theo has a thing against binary blobs ( and that 's adorable ) , but even hardware that is well supported by hte manufacturer is notably absent.For example , does this version of OpenBSD support the SUPERMICRO AOC-SAT2-MV8 ? This is a popular card because it is extremely cheap and works in pretty much any modern PCI port.The source code for the driver comes with the card on a CD ( although I 'm not certain what license ) .The driver on the CD can be compiled for Windows or Linux ( and I think the driver is in most base Linux distros ) .Also , FreeBSD has supported this card for some time .
( So even if there is a licensing issue , there is still some BSD licensed code that they can steal .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love the idea of OpenBSD, but I've found it lacking in hardware support, even when a driver exists in FreeBSD/Linux.I know Theo has a thing against binary blobs (and that's adorable), but even hardware that is well supported by hte manufacturer is notably absent.For example, does this version of OpenBSD support the SUPERMICRO AOC-SAT2-MV8?This is a popular card because it is extremely cheap and works in pretty much any modern PCI port.The source code for the driver comes with the card on a CD (although I'm not certain what license).The driver on the CD can be compiled for Windows or Linux (and I think the driver is in most base Linux distros).Also, FreeBSD has supported this card for some time.
(So even if there is a licensing issue, there is still some BSD licensed code that they can steal.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29793801</id>
	<title>Re:Netcraft confirms: *BSD is Dying</title>
	<author>wastedlife</author>
	<datestamp>1255965720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How is this a troll?! Netcraft confirmed it!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How is this a troll ? !
Netcraft confirmed it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How is this a troll?!
Netcraft confirmed it!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29789229</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29793019</id>
	<title>Security advantages over Ubuntu Server</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255962240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Comparing the latest OpenBSD to the Ubuntu Server, what are the security advantages of OpenBSD that would warrant it's usage over Ubuntu Server? Ubuntu Server home page boasts quite a lot of security features and I presume it's faster than OpenBSD as well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Comparing the latest OpenBSD to the Ubuntu Server , what are the security advantages of OpenBSD that would warrant it 's usage over Ubuntu Server ?
Ubuntu Server home page boasts quite a lot of security features and I presume it 's faster than OpenBSD as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Comparing the latest OpenBSD to the Ubuntu Server, what are the security advantages of OpenBSD that would warrant it's usage over Ubuntu Server?
Ubuntu Server home page boasts quite a lot of security features and I presume it's faster than OpenBSD as well.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29789133</id>
	<title>make</title>
	<author>tirnacopu</author>
	<datestamp>1255881240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Make floor(3) round towards -inf instead of towards zero.</p> </div><p>Floor? Really? Who was so bored they looked at a 20-year old function (the ANSI C standard was written in '89) and said: yes, there is room for improvement here!</p><p>At least they could have changed it to accept input in XML format<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:p</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Make floor ( 3 ) round towards -inf instead of towards zero .
Floor ? Really ?
Who was so bored they looked at a 20-year old function ( the ANSI C standard was written in '89 ) and said : yes , there is room for improvement here ! At least they could have changed it to accept input in XML format : p</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Make floor(3) round towards -inf instead of towards zero.
Floor? Really?
Who was so bored they looked at a 20-year old function (the ANSI C standard was written in '89) and said: yes, there is room for improvement here!At least they could have changed it to accept input in XML format :p
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788729</id>
	<title>Software RAID?</title>
	<author>WarlockD</author>
	<datestamp>1255876860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Anyone know of the preformace?  Been using mdadm for a while and been liking it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone know of the preformace ?
Been using mdadm for a while and been liking it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone know of the preformace?
Been using mdadm for a while and been liking it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29790617</id>
	<title>Re:October 18th is also its birthday</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255892520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here's a gift: who cares. Wow, software raid... too little, too late. Yawn.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's a gift : who cares .
Wow , software raid... too little , too late .
Yawn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's a gift: who cares.
Wow, software raid... too little, too late.
Yawn.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788387</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788887</id>
	<title>Re:Yahoo!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255878420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, why troll... First, Yahoo is not only on BSD. Second, BSD is widely in a Cisco stuff, mostly for network appliances, routers, firewalls etc. It is  very good firmware-like OS for network stuff.</p><p>For everything else you've got Solaris...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , why troll... First , Yahoo is not only on BSD .
Second , BSD is widely in a Cisco stuff , mostly for network appliances , routers , firewalls etc .
It is very good firmware-like OS for network stuff.For everything else you 've got Solaris... : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, why troll... First, Yahoo is not only on BSD.
Second, BSD is widely in a Cisco stuff, mostly for network appliances, routers, firewalls etc.
It is  very good firmware-like OS for network stuff.For everything else you've got Solaris... :-)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788551</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788395</id>
	<title>Abuse of corpse.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255873140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Abuse of corpse.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Abuse of corpse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Abuse of corpse.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29791299</id>
	<title>Re:OpenBSD - not that secure...</title>
	<author>munctional</author>
	<datestamp>1255945920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>SELinux has nothing on GRSecurity. <a href="http://www.grsecurity.net/" title="grsecurity.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.grsecurity.net/</a> [grsecurity.net]</htmltext>
<tokenext>SELinux has nothing on GRSecurity .
http : //www.grsecurity.net/ [ grsecurity.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SELinux has nothing on GRSecurity.
http://www.grsecurity.net/ [grsecurity.net]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29789533</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29789081</id>
	<title>Re:ISO Policy Explained</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255880460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In summary, buy the cds they come with cool stickers and they're only $50.</p><p>I got my cds in the mail on friday.</p><p>Already have the OpenBSD 4.6 stickers on my lappy<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</p><p>cyphercell</p><p>ps - it really is a drop in the bucket compared to my other work expenses this year.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In summary , buy the cds they come with cool stickers and they 're only $ 50.I got my cds in the mail on friday.Already have the OpenBSD 4.6 stickers on my lappy : Dcyphercellps - it really is a drop in the bucket compared to my other work expenses this year .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In summary, buy the cds they come with cool stickers and they're only $50.I got my cds in the mail on friday.Already have the OpenBSD 4.6 stickers on my lappy :Dcyphercellps - it really is a drop in the bucket compared to my other work expenses this year.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788735</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788807</id>
	<title>Re:Still no torrent?</title>
	<author>MichaelSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1255877700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>NetBSD has torrents as well. About as year ago I wanted an AMD64 iso to I got the torrent but it turned into a straight download so I may as well not have bothered. I wonder if the actual demand for openbsd is enough to justify the effort.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>NetBSD has torrents as well .
About as year ago I wanted an AMD64 iso to I got the torrent but it turned into a straight download so I may as well not have bothered .
I wonder if the actual demand for openbsd is enough to justify the effort .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NetBSD has torrents as well.
About as year ago I wanted an AMD64 iso to I got the torrent but it turned into a straight download so I may as well not have bothered.
I wonder if the actual demand for openbsd is enough to justify the effort.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788507</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788591</id>
	<title>j.delanoy is a fucking bastard</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255875180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User\_talk:J.delanoy&amp;action=edit&amp;section=new" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Go tell him what you think of his vile dog rapes</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Go tell him what you think of his vile dog rapes [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Go tell him what you think of his vile dog rapes [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29789795</id>
	<title>Re:Torrent?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255885680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From the top story at Distrowatch.com, the link to the OpenBSD torrent site is <a href="http://openbsd.somedomain.net/index.php?version=latest+release" title="somedomain.net">http://openbsd.somedomain.net/index.php?version=latest+release</a> [somedomain.net]<br>The ones you're mostly likely interested in:<br><a href="http://openbsd.somedomain.net/torrents/OpenBSD\_4\_6\_i386\_install46\_iso-2009-10-18-1238.torrent" title="somedomain.net">http://openbsd.somedomain.net/torrents/OpenBSD\_4\_6\_i386\_install46\_iso-2009-10-18-1238.torrent</a> [somedomain.net] (i386)<br><a href="http://openbsd.somedomain.net/torrents/OpenBSD\_4\_5\_amd64\_install45\_iso-2009-04-30-2207.torrent" title="somedomain.net">http://openbsd.somedomain.net/torrents/OpenBSD\_4\_5\_amd64\_install45\_iso-2009-04-30-2207.torrent</a> [somedomain.net] (x86\_64)<br><a href="http://openbsd.somedomain.net/torrents/OpenBSD\_4\_5\_macppc\_install45\_iso-2009-05-01-1435.torrent" title="somedomain.net">http://openbsd.somedomain.net/torrents/OpenBSD\_4\_5\_macppc\_install45\_iso-2009-05-01-1435.torrent</a> [somedomain.net] (PPC)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From the top story at Distrowatch.com , the link to the OpenBSD torrent site is http : //openbsd.somedomain.net/index.php ? version = latest + release [ somedomain.net ] The ones you 're mostly likely interested in : http : //openbsd.somedomain.net/torrents/OpenBSD \ _4 \ _6 \ _i386 \ _install46 \ _iso-2009-10-18-1238.torrent [ somedomain.net ] ( i386 ) http : //openbsd.somedomain.net/torrents/OpenBSD \ _4 \ _5 \ _amd64 \ _install45 \ _iso-2009-04-30-2207.torrent [ somedomain.net ] ( x86 \ _64 ) http : //openbsd.somedomain.net/torrents/OpenBSD \ _4 \ _5 \ _macppc \ _install45 \ _iso-2009-05-01-1435.torrent [ somedomain.net ] ( PPC )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the top story at Distrowatch.com, the link to the OpenBSD torrent site is http://openbsd.somedomain.net/index.php?version=latest+release [somedomain.net]The ones you're mostly likely interested in:http://openbsd.somedomain.net/torrents/OpenBSD\_4\_6\_i386\_install46\_iso-2009-10-18-1238.torrent [somedomain.net] (i386)http://openbsd.somedomain.net/torrents/OpenBSD\_4\_5\_amd64\_install45\_iso-2009-04-30-2207.torrent [somedomain.net] (x86\_64)http://openbsd.somedomain.net/torrents/OpenBSD\_4\_5\_macppc\_install45\_iso-2009-05-01-1435.torrent [somedomain.net] (PPC)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29797373</id>
	<title>Re:I want to build an AP with openbsd</title>
	<author>kestasjk</author>
	<datestamp>1255980060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh boy you're in for a fun time..</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh boy you 're in for a fun time. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh boy you're in for a fun time..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29789813</id>
	<title>Re:Still no torrent?</title>
	<author>cbhacking</author>
	<datestamp>1255885740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://openbsd.somedomain.net/index.php?version=latest+release" title="somedomain.net">http://openbsd.somedomain.net/index.php?version=latest+release</a> [somedomain.net]</p><p>List of all their torrents, by architecture and type. Search for the text "install" to find the binary install images (rather than source code or package bundles).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //openbsd.somedomain.net/index.php ? version = latest + release [ somedomain.net ] List of all their torrents , by architecture and type .
Search for the text " install " to find the binary install images ( rather than source code or package bundles ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://openbsd.somedomain.net/index.php?version=latest+release [somedomain.net]List of all their torrents, by architecture and type.
Search for the text "install" to find the binary install images (rather than source code or package bundles).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29799521</id>
	<title>Re:Still no torrent?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255944420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>"Come on! FreeBSD has been releasing via bittorrent for a while now [freebsd.org]. Get with it OpenBSD!"</i></p><p>BFD! Next you'll be complaining about the color of their mascot. Whimp.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Come on !
FreeBSD has been releasing via bittorrent for a while now [ freebsd.org ] .
Get with it OpenBSD ! " BFD !
Next you 'll be complaining about the color of their mascot .
Whimp .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Come on!
FreeBSD has been releasing via bittorrent for a while now [freebsd.org].
Get with it OpenBSD!"BFD!
Next you'll be complaining about the color of their mascot.
Whimp.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788525</id>
	<title>Re:Torrent?</title>
	<author>Jared555</author>
	<datestamp>1255874640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Their main CD is not very large at all.  If I remember correctly most of the files are downloaded during the installation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Their main CD is not very large at all .
If I remember correctly most of the files are downloaded during the installation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Their main CD is not very large at all.
If I remember correctly most of the files are downloaded during the installation.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788475</id>
	<title>Torrent?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255874160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They have lots of mirrors and they likely work well, but with a torrent I could help pass it around.<br>
What is with projects not offering the option?</htmltext>
<tokenext>They have lots of mirrors and they likely work well , but with a torrent I could help pass it around .
What is with projects not offering the option ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They have lots of mirrors and they likely work well, but with a torrent I could help pass it around.
What is with projects not offering the option?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29789229</id>
	<title>Netcraft confirms: *BSD is Dying</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255881960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Netcraft confirms BSD is Dying

<p>In 2000, chief *BSD developer Matt Damon left the project after penning a long, meandering <a href="http://bsd.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=164582&amp;cid=13741084" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">suicide note</a> [slashdot.org], loosely based on a novel by renowned playwright Buzz Aldrin.

</p><dl> <dd>FreeBSD used to be fun. It used to be about doing things the right way. It used to be something that you could sink your teeth into when the mundane chores of programming for a living got you down. It was something cool and exciting; a way to spend your spare time on an endeavour you loved that was at the same time wholesome and worthwhile.
</dd></dl><dl> <dd>It's not anymore. It's about bylaws and committees and reports and milestones, telling others what to do and doing what you're told. It's about who can rant the longest or shout the loudest or mislead the most people into a bloc in order to legitimise doing what they think is best. Individuals notwithstanding, the project as a whole has lost track of where it's going, and has instead become obsessed with process and mechanics.
</dd></dl><p>
[<a href="/index.php?title=BSD\_is\_Dying&amp;action=edit&amp;section=2" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">edit</a> [slashdot.org]] Netcraft Weighs In
</p><p>Not long after Matt's suicide, the <a href="/wiki/United\_Nations" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">United Nations</a> [slashdot.org] Commission for Wresting Control of the DNS Root Servers from the Imperialist United States ("<a href="/index.php?title=UN-USA&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">UN-USA</a> [slashdot.org]")'s <a href="/wiki/Netcraft" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">Netcraft</a> [slashdot.org] project weighed in with its final judgement. In typical Netcraft fashion, the writer kept to the facts and looked to the numbers:

</p><dl> <dd>It is now official. Netcraft has confirmed: *BSD is dying
</dd></dl><dl> <dd>One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
</dd></dl><dl> <dd>You don't need to be the Amazing Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.
</dd></dl><dl> <dd>FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93\% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.
</dd></dl><dl> <dd>Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
</dd></dl><dl> <dd>OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
</dd></dl><dl> <dd>Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
</dd></dl><dl> <dd>All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle</dd></dl></htmltext>
<tokenext>Netcraft confirms BSD is Dying In 2000 , chief * BSD developer Matt Damon left the project after penning a long , meandering suicide note [ slashdot.org ] , loosely based on a novel by renowned playwright Buzz Aldrin .
FreeBSD used to be fun .
It used to be about doing things the right way .
It used to be something that you could sink your teeth into when the mundane chores of programming for a living got you down .
It was something cool and exciting ; a way to spend your spare time on an endeavour you loved that was at the same time wholesome and worthwhile .
It 's not anymore .
It 's about bylaws and committees and reports and milestones , telling others what to do and doing what you 're told .
It 's about who can rant the longest or shout the loudest or mislead the most people into a bloc in order to legitimise doing what they think is best .
Individuals notwithstanding , the project as a whole has lost track of where it 's going , and has instead become obsessed with process and mechanics .
[ edit [ slashdot.org ] ] Netcraft Weighs In Not long after Matt 's suicide , the United Nations [ slashdot.org ] Commission for Wresting Control of the DNS Root Servers from the Imperialist United States ( " UN-USA [ slashdot.org ] " ) 's Netcraft [ slashdot.org ] project weighed in with its final judgement .
In typical Netcraft fashion , the writer kept to the facts and looked to the numbers : It is now official .
Netcraft has confirmed : * BSD is dying One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered * BSD community when IDC confirmed that * BSD market share has dropped yet again , now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers .
Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that * BSD has lost more market share , this news serves to reinforce what we 've known all along .
* BSD is collapsing in complete disarray , as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [ samag.com ] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test .
You do n't need to be the Amazing Kreskin [ amazingkreskin.com ] to predict * BSD 's future .
The hand writing is on the wall : * BSD faces a bleak future .
In fact there wo n't be any future at all for * BSD because * BSD is dying .
Things are looking very bad for * BSD .
As many of us are already aware , * BSD continues to lose market share .
Red ink flows like a river of blood .
FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all , having lost 93 \ % of its core developers .
The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly .
There can no longer be any doubt : FreeBSD is dying .
Let 's keep to the facts and look at the numbers .
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD .
How many users of NetBSD are there ?
Let 's see .
The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1 .
Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users .
BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts .
Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS .
A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the * BSD market .
Therefore there are ( 7000 + 1400 + 700 ) * 4 = 36400 FreeBSD users .
This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts .
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek , abysmal sales and so on , FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS .
Now BSDI is also dead , its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house .
All major surveys show that * BSD has steadily declined in market share .
* BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim .
If * BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers .
* BSD continues to decay .
Nothing short of a miracle</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Netcraft confirms BSD is Dying

In 2000, chief *BSD developer Matt Damon left the project after penning a long, meandering suicide note [slashdot.org], loosely based on a novel by renowned playwright Buzz Aldrin.
FreeBSD used to be fun.
It used to be about doing things the right way.
It used to be something that you could sink your teeth into when the mundane chores of programming for a living got you down.
It was something cool and exciting; a way to spend your spare time on an endeavour you loved that was at the same time wholesome and worthwhile.
It's not anymore.
It's about bylaws and committees and reports and milestones, telling others what to do and doing what you're told.
It's about who can rant the longest or shout the loudest or mislead the most people into a bloc in order to legitimise doing what they think is best.
Individuals notwithstanding, the project as a whole has lost track of where it's going, and has instead become obsessed with process and mechanics.
[edit [slashdot.org]] Netcraft Weighs In
Not long after Matt's suicide, the United Nations [slashdot.org] Commission for Wresting Control of the DNS Root Servers from the Imperialist United States ("UN-USA [slashdot.org]")'s Netcraft [slashdot.org] project weighed in with its final judgement.
In typical Netcraft fashion, the writer kept to the facts and looked to the numbers:

 It is now official.
Netcraft has confirmed: *BSD is dying
 One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers.
Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along.
*BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be the Amazing Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] to predict *BSD's future.
The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future.
In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying.
Things are looking very bad for *BSD.
As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share.
Red ink flows like a river of blood.
FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93\% of its core developers.
The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly.
There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD.
How many users of NetBSD are there?
Let's see.
The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1.
Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users.
BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts.
Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS.
A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market.
Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users.
This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS.
Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share.
*BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim.
If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers.
*BSD continues to decay.
Nothing short of a miracle</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29789505</id>
	<title>Re:Software RAID?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255883700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>mdadm's limitations arise when you attempt to mirror your existing root disk without destroying the data. You'd think such a task would be easy, but it's not. If you don't configure the mirror during install, it's a real headache. This can't be an uncommon situation either, with people who start out with a single disk and then later decide to add some redundancy.</p><p>Solaris DiskSuite does this very nicely. A few commands, modify<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/etc/vfstab, reboot, then attach the other disk to the mirror and let it sync.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>mdadm 's limitations arise when you attempt to mirror your existing root disk without destroying the data .
You 'd think such a task would be easy , but it 's not .
If you do n't configure the mirror during install , it 's a real headache .
This ca n't be an uncommon situation either , with people who start out with a single disk and then later decide to add some redundancy.Solaris DiskSuite does this very nicely .
A few commands , modify /etc/vfstab , reboot , then attach the other disk to the mirror and let it sync .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>mdadm's limitations arise when you attempt to mirror your existing root disk without destroying the data.
You'd think such a task would be easy, but it's not.
If you don't configure the mirror during install, it's a real headache.
This can't be an uncommon situation either, with people who start out with a single disk and then later decide to add some redundancy.Solaris DiskSuite does this very nicely.
A few commands, modify /etc/vfstab, reboot, then attach the other disk to the mirror and let it sync.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788551</id>
	<title>Yahoo!</title>
	<author>XPeter</author>
	<datestamp>1255874880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not trying to be a troll, but do any significant websites besides Yahoo! and Verio run BSD?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not trying to be a troll , but do any significant websites besides Yahoo !
and Verio run BSD ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not trying to be a troll, but do any significant websites besides Yahoo!
and Verio run BSD?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29791537</id>
	<title>Re:Thanks Theo and everyone else.</title>
	<author>plaukas pyragely</author>
	<datestamp>1255948920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wouldn't it be better to download iso and the donate those $'s for CD to OpenBSD project?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would n't it be better to download iso and the donate those $ 's for CD to OpenBSD project ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wouldn't it be better to download iso and the donate those $'s for CD to OpenBSD project?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29789033</id>
	<title>BSD on a linux kernel!</title>
	<author>iCantSpell</author>
	<datestamp>1255879860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For those who don't know, there's a BSD style linux distro that kills Gentoo in both, setup, design, and ease. It's virtually BSD with a linux kernel, and an apt-get killer.</p><p>"<br>Arch Linux is an independently developed, i686/x86-64 general purpose GNU/Linux distribution versatile enough to suit any role. Development focuses on simplicity, minimalism, and code elegance. Arch is installed as a minimal base system, configured by the user upon which their own ideal environment is assembled by installing only what is required or desired for their unique purposes. GUI configuration utilities are not officially provided, and most system configuration is performed from the shell by editing simple text files. Arch strives to stay bleeding edge, and typically offers the latest stable versions of most software.</p><p>Arch Linux uses its own Pacman package manager, which couples simple binary packages with an easy-to-use package build system. This allows users to easily manage and customize packages ranging from official Arch software to the user's own personal packages to packages from 3rd party sources. The repository system also allows users to easily build and maintain their own custom build scripts, packages, and repositories, encouraging community growth and contribution.</p><p>The minimal Arch base package set resides in the streamlined [core] repository. In addition, the official [extra], [community], and [testing] repositories provide several thousand high-quality, packages to meet your software demands. Arch also offers an [unsupported] section in the Arch Linux User Repository (AUR), which contains over 9,000 build scripts, for compiling installable packages from source using the Arch Linux makepkg application.</p><p>Arch Linux uses a "rolling release" system which allows one-time installation and perpetual software upgrades. It is not generally necessary to reinstall or upgrade your Arch Linux system from one "version" to the next. By issuing one command, an Arch system is kept up-to-date and on the bleeding edge.</p><p>Arch strives to keep its packages as close to the original upstream software as possible. Patches are applied only when necessary to ensure an application compiles and runs correctly with the other packages installed on an up-to-date Arch system.</p><p>To summarize: Arch Linux is a versatile, and simple distribution designed to fit the needs of the competent Linux&#174; user. It is both powerful and easy to manage, making it an ideal distro for servers and workstations. Take it in any direction you like. If you share this vision of what a GNU/Linux distribution should be, then you are welcomed and encouraged to use it freely, get involved, and contribute to the community. Welcome to Arch!<br>" - <a href="http://www.archlinux.org/about/" title="archlinux.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.archlinux.org/about/</a> [archlinux.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For those who do n't know , there 's a BSD style linux distro that kills Gentoo in both , setup , design , and ease .
It 's virtually BSD with a linux kernel , and an apt-get killer .
" Arch Linux is an independently developed , i686/x86-64 general purpose GNU/Linux distribution versatile enough to suit any role .
Development focuses on simplicity , minimalism , and code elegance .
Arch is installed as a minimal base system , configured by the user upon which their own ideal environment is assembled by installing only what is required or desired for their unique purposes .
GUI configuration utilities are not officially provided , and most system configuration is performed from the shell by editing simple text files .
Arch strives to stay bleeding edge , and typically offers the latest stable versions of most software.Arch Linux uses its own Pacman package manager , which couples simple binary packages with an easy-to-use package build system .
This allows users to easily manage and customize packages ranging from official Arch software to the user 's own personal packages to packages from 3rd party sources .
The repository system also allows users to easily build and maintain their own custom build scripts , packages , and repositories , encouraging community growth and contribution.The minimal Arch base package set resides in the streamlined [ core ] repository .
In addition , the official [ extra ] , [ community ] , and [ testing ] repositories provide several thousand high-quality , packages to meet your software demands .
Arch also offers an [ unsupported ] section in the Arch Linux User Repository ( AUR ) , which contains over 9,000 build scripts , for compiling installable packages from source using the Arch Linux makepkg application.Arch Linux uses a " rolling release " system which allows one-time installation and perpetual software upgrades .
It is not generally necessary to reinstall or upgrade your Arch Linux system from one " version " to the next .
By issuing one command , an Arch system is kept up-to-date and on the bleeding edge.Arch strives to keep its packages as close to the original upstream software as possible .
Patches are applied only when necessary to ensure an application compiles and runs correctly with the other packages installed on an up-to-date Arch system.To summarize : Arch Linux is a versatile , and simple distribution designed to fit the needs of the competent Linux   user .
It is both powerful and easy to manage , making it an ideal distro for servers and workstations .
Take it in any direction you like .
If you share this vision of what a GNU/Linux distribution should be , then you are welcomed and encouraged to use it freely , get involved , and contribute to the community .
Welcome to Arch !
" - http : //www.archlinux.org/about/ [ archlinux.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For those who don't know, there's a BSD style linux distro that kills Gentoo in both, setup, design, and ease.
It's virtually BSD with a linux kernel, and an apt-get killer.
"Arch Linux is an independently developed, i686/x86-64 general purpose GNU/Linux distribution versatile enough to suit any role.
Development focuses on simplicity, minimalism, and code elegance.
Arch is installed as a minimal base system, configured by the user upon which their own ideal environment is assembled by installing only what is required or desired for their unique purposes.
GUI configuration utilities are not officially provided, and most system configuration is performed from the shell by editing simple text files.
Arch strives to stay bleeding edge, and typically offers the latest stable versions of most software.Arch Linux uses its own Pacman package manager, which couples simple binary packages with an easy-to-use package build system.
This allows users to easily manage and customize packages ranging from official Arch software to the user's own personal packages to packages from 3rd party sources.
The repository system also allows users to easily build and maintain their own custom build scripts, packages, and repositories, encouraging community growth and contribution.The minimal Arch base package set resides in the streamlined [core] repository.
In addition, the official [extra], [community], and [testing] repositories provide several thousand high-quality, packages to meet your software demands.
Arch also offers an [unsupported] section in the Arch Linux User Repository (AUR), which contains over 9,000 build scripts, for compiling installable packages from source using the Arch Linux makepkg application.Arch Linux uses a "rolling release" system which allows one-time installation and perpetual software upgrades.
It is not generally necessary to reinstall or upgrade your Arch Linux system from one "version" to the next.
By issuing one command, an Arch system is kept up-to-date and on the bleeding edge.Arch strives to keep its packages as close to the original upstream software as possible.
Patches are applied only when necessary to ensure an application compiles and runs correctly with the other packages installed on an up-to-date Arch system.To summarize: Arch Linux is a versatile, and simple distribution designed to fit the needs of the competent Linux® user.
It is both powerful and easy to manage, making it an ideal distro for servers and workstations.
Take it in any direction you like.
If you share this vision of what a GNU/Linux distribution should be, then you are welcomed and encouraged to use it freely, get involved, and contribute to the community.
Welcome to Arch!
" - http://www.archlinux.org/about/ [archlinux.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788469</id>
	<title>openbsd kernel</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255874100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm waiting for OpenBSD to give up on creating a modern kernel and focus on what they do best: create hardened network applications &amp; a clean base system.  A freebsd / openbsd fusion would give linux a run for their money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm waiting for OpenBSD to give up on creating a modern kernel and focus on what they do best : create hardened network applications &amp; a clean base system .
A freebsd / openbsd fusion would give linux a run for their money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm waiting for OpenBSD to give up on creating a modern kernel and focus on what they do best: create hardened network applications &amp; a clean base system.
A freebsd / openbsd fusion would give linux a run for their money.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788431</id>
	<title>OpenBSD pf</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255873680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I used OpenBSD as a router for awhile, I'm using FreeBSD now.  I can't seem to filter packets from a natted jail to my LAN.  I don't know if OpenBSD has jails, but I wonder if it would work under OpenBSD.  I don't want packets getting from the 10.0.0.1 jail to my 192.168.0.0/24 network.  But the jail has to access the internet.  If someone could send me a pf.conf for that I would appreciate it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I used OpenBSD as a router for awhile , I 'm using FreeBSD now .
I ca n't seem to filter packets from a natted jail to my LAN .
I do n't know if OpenBSD has jails , but I wonder if it would work under OpenBSD .
I do n't want packets getting from the 10.0.0.1 jail to my 192.168.0.0/24 network .
But the jail has to access the internet .
If someone could send me a pf.conf for that I would appreciate it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used OpenBSD as a router for awhile, I'm using FreeBSD now.
I can't seem to filter packets from a natted jail to my LAN.
I don't know if OpenBSD has jails, but I wonder if it would work under OpenBSD.
I don't want packets getting from the 10.0.0.1 jail to my 192.168.0.0/24 network.
But the jail has to access the internet.
If someone could send me a pf.conf for that I would appreciate it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788835</id>
	<title>Re:openbsd kernel</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255877880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm waiting for OpenBSD to give up on creating a modern kernel and focus on what they do best: create hardened network applications &amp; a clean base system.  A freebsd / openbsd fusion would give linux a run for their money.</p></div><p>I wish that were so. *BSDs (all of them) still lack HA and failover clustering software. Until that is there, *BSD is not a viable alternative.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm waiting for OpenBSD to give up on creating a modern kernel and focus on what they do best : create hardened network applications &amp; a clean base system .
A freebsd / openbsd fusion would give linux a run for their money.I wish that were so .
* BSDs ( all of them ) still lack HA and failover clustering software .
Until that is there , * BSD is not a viable alternative .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm waiting for OpenBSD to give up on creating a modern kernel and focus on what they do best: create hardened network applications &amp; a clean base system.
A freebsd / openbsd fusion would give linux a run for their money.I wish that were so.
*BSDs (all of them) still lack HA and failover clustering software.
Until that is there, *BSD is not a viable alternative.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788469</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29795397</id>
	<title>Package management status?</title>
	<author>bbasgen</author>
	<datestamp>1255972560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When I last tried to use OpenBSD, package management was a big barrier to entry. In those days, I yearned for apt-get like ease to set updates and even distribution upgrades automatically. I noticed that OpenBSD added pkg\_add several years ago, but I haven't really tried it in the enterprise. How is the package management system today? How easy is it to do hands-off administration of tens if not hundreds of these servers?</htmltext>
<tokenext>When I last tried to use OpenBSD , package management was a big barrier to entry .
In those days , I yearned for apt-get like ease to set updates and even distribution upgrades automatically .
I noticed that OpenBSD added pkg \ _add several years ago , but I have n't really tried it in the enterprise .
How is the package management system today ?
How easy is it to do hands-off administration of tens if not hundreds of these servers ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I last tried to use OpenBSD, package management was a big barrier to entry.
In those days, I yearned for apt-get like ease to set updates and even distribution upgrades automatically.
I noticed that OpenBSD added pkg\_add several years ago, but I haven't really tried it in the enterprise.
How is the package management system today?
How easy is it to do hands-off administration of tens if not hundreds of these servers?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29790255</id>
	<title>Re:Where's the song?</title>
	<author>pddo</author>
	<datestamp>1255889040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That is some of the funniest/wierdest music I've ever heard.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That is some of the funniest/wierdest music I 've ever heard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is some of the funniest/wierdest music I've ever heard.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788699</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29791371</id>
	<title>Re:ISO Policy Explained</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255946760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow you use floppies? Our servers don't even have floppy drives anymore. Would a USB key be not a better solution, call me crazy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow you use floppies ?
Our servers do n't even have floppy drives anymore .
Would a USB key be not a better solution , call me crazy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow you use floppies?
Our servers don't even have floppy drives anymore.
Would a USB key be not a better solution, call me crazy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788735</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29792549</id>
	<title>w00t</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255959360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>whoop de fucking dooo!</htmltext>
<tokenext>whoop de fucking dooo !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>whoop de fucking dooo!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29791743</id>
	<title>Re:ISO Policy Explained</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255951680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>My computer does not have a floppy drive...</htmltext>
<tokenext>My computer does not have a floppy drive.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My computer does not have a floppy drive...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788735</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29789029</id>
	<title>Re:openbsd kernel</title>
	<author>Galactic Dominator</author>
	<datestamp>1255879860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do you have any clue who is responsible for developing Common Address Redundancy Protocol?</p><p>You have other options too,</p><p><a href="http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/sysutils/heartbeat/" title="freebsd.org">http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/sysutils/heartbeat/</a> [freebsd.org]</p><p>or for a DRBD eqiv, try ggated + gmirror</p><p><a href="http://serverbbs.ccw.com.cn/thread-14564-1-1.html" title="ccw.com.cn">http://serverbbs.ccw.com.cn/thread-14564-1-1.html</a> [ccw.com.cn]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you have any clue who is responsible for developing Common Address Redundancy Protocol ? You have other options too,http : //www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/sysutils/heartbeat/ [ freebsd.org ] or for a DRBD eqiv , try ggated + gmirrorhttp : //serverbbs.ccw.com.cn/thread-14564-1-1.html [ ccw.com.cn ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you have any clue who is responsible for developing Common Address Redundancy Protocol?You have other options too,http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/sysutils/heartbeat/ [freebsd.org]or for a DRBD eqiv, try ggated + gmirrorhttp://serverbbs.ccw.com.cn/thread-14564-1-1.html [ccw.com.cn]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788835</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29794703</id>
	<title>Re:I want to build an AP with openbsd</title>
	<author>Hatta</author>
	<datestamp>1255969620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can run OpenBSD on a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TurboGrafx-16" title="wikipedia.org">PC Engine</a> [wikipedia.org]?  Awesome!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can run OpenBSD on a PC Engine [ wikipedia.org ] ?
Awesome !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can run OpenBSD on a PC Engine [wikipedia.org]?
Awesome!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29793561</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29789065</id>
	<title>Ah, that time again...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255880280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What I like about OpenBSD is every six months I have to look at the upgrade guide to decide what new accounts to create and config files to synchronize with etcXX.tgz, then I "upgrade" with cp and tar.  OK, the upgrades are a bit more painful than using aptitude on a Linux box, but the results are always good.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What I like about OpenBSD is every six months I have to look at the upgrade guide to decide what new accounts to create and config files to synchronize with etcXX.tgz , then I " upgrade " with cp and tar .
OK , the upgrades are a bit more painful than using aptitude on a Linux box , but the results are always good .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I like about OpenBSD is every six months I have to look at the upgrade guide to decide what new accounts to create and config files to synchronize with etcXX.tgz, then I "upgrade" with cp and tar.
OK, the upgrades are a bit more painful than using aptitude on a Linux box, but the results are always good.
:-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788463</id>
	<title>Now There's Some Software Engineering!</title>
	<author>yup2000</author>
	<datestamp>1255874100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Doing what others only dream... a scheduled release, early!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Doing what others only dream... a scheduled release , early !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doing what others only dream... a scheduled release, early!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29793501</id>
	<title>Re:Security advantages over Ubuntu Server</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255964460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of Speed: In my experience, testing hypothesis is better than untested presumptions. Also, is speed your only concern - is your server that highly utilized?<br>One example, OpenBSD chroot/jails Apache by default, Ubuntu doesn't. If someone hacks your website on OpenBSD they are limited to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/var/www/ instead of the default in Ubuntu which lets the attacker start at /</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of Speed : In my experience , testing hypothesis is better than untested presumptions .
Also , is speed your only concern - is your server that highly utilized ? One example , OpenBSD chroot/jails Apache by default , Ubuntu does n't .
If someone hacks your website on OpenBSD they are limited to /var/www/ instead of the default in Ubuntu which lets the attacker start at /</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of Speed: In my experience, testing hypothesis is better than untested presumptions.
Also, is speed your only concern - is your server that highly utilized?One example, OpenBSD chroot/jails Apache by default, Ubuntu doesn't.
If someone hacks your website on OpenBSD they are limited to /var/www/ instead of the default in Ubuntu which lets the attacker start at /</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29793019</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29814117</id>
	<title>Re:OpenBSD - not that secure...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256031840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>OpenBSD's focus is preventing the exploits in the first place with many overflow vulnerabities in third-party software being non-exploitable on OpenBSD. After running it for 10 years, I trust OpenBSD's record. It has some of the best in the business probing it, and with the most serious flaw in years being a subtle IP6 attack<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></div><p>You have a short memory, then. I used OpenBSD for a few years and even contributed a very small patch (localization related), but the "secure by default" and "no remote exploits for N years" mantras were just myths (not to mention BS). I vividly recall a remote ssh exploit and a local kernel exploit (http://wideopenbsd.org/ lists them, they're quite old as I stopped running OpenBSD quite a while ago). Granted, other systems have similar exploits published, but they also have more functionality out of the box - and they're not security focused systems per se.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>OpenBSD 's focus is preventing the exploits in the first place with many overflow vulnerabities in third-party software being non-exploitable on OpenBSD .
After running it for 10 years , I trust OpenBSD 's record .
It has some of the best in the business probing it , and with the most serious flaw in years being a subtle IP6 attack ...You have a short memory , then .
I used OpenBSD for a few years and even contributed a very small patch ( localization related ) , but the " secure by default " and " no remote exploits for N years " mantras were just myths ( not to mention BS ) .
I vividly recall a remote ssh exploit and a local kernel exploit ( http : //wideopenbsd.org/ lists them , they 're quite old as I stopped running OpenBSD quite a while ago ) .
Granted , other systems have similar exploits published , but they also have more functionality out of the box - and they 're not security focused systems per se .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OpenBSD's focus is preventing the exploits in the first place with many overflow vulnerabities in third-party software being non-exploitable on OpenBSD.
After running it for 10 years, I trust OpenBSD's record.
It has some of the best in the business probing it, and with the most serious flaw in years being a subtle IP6 attack ...You have a short memory, then.
I used OpenBSD for a few years and even contributed a very small patch (localization related), but the "secure by default" and "no remote exploits for N years" mantras were just myths (not to mention BS).
I vividly recall a remote ssh exploit and a local kernel exploit (http://wideopenbsd.org/ lists them, they're quite old as I stopped running OpenBSD quite a while ago).
Granted, other systems have similar exploits published, but they also have more functionality out of the box - and they're not security focused systems per se.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29788453</id>
	<title>Thanks Theo and everyone else.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255873980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just want to give a huge Thanks to Theo and the rest of the OpenBSD developers. They're doing a fantastic job. I'll order my CD soon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just want to give a huge Thanks to Theo and the rest of the OpenBSD developers .
They 're doing a fantastic job .
I 'll order my CD soon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just want to give a huge Thanks to Theo and the rest of the OpenBSD developers.
They're doing a fantastic job.
I'll order my CD soon.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_2039251.29791985</id>
	<title>Support OpenSSH?</title>
	<author>klapaucjusz</author>
	<datestamp>1255954140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>&gt; please support the project (which also brings you OpenSSH

Is it possible to support OpenSSH without the money being wasted on OpenBSD?</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; please support the project ( which also brings you OpenSSH Is it possible to support OpenSSH without the money being wasted on OpenBSD ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; please support the project (which also brings you OpenSSH

Is it possible to support OpenSSH without the money being wasted on OpenBSD?</sentencetext>
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