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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_18_1652201</id>
	<title>A Step Closer To Cheap Nuclear Fusion</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1255890360000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>ewsnow writes <i>"The Focus Fusion Society reports that the scientists and engineers at Lawrenceville Plasma Physics have finally built an operational <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dense\_plasma\_focus">Dense Plasma Focus</a> device. While still at less than half power, they were able to <a href="http://focusfusion.org/index.php/site/article/lpps\_newly\_assembled\_dpf\_achieves\_first\_shots\_and\_pinch/">achieve a pinch on their device</a>. The small company that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric\_Lerner">Eric Lerner</a> started recently gathered enough funding to start a two-year study on the validity of his theory regarding fusion-inducing <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasmoid">plasmoids</a>. If the theory holds, the device will produce more electricity than it consumes. In contrast to the billions of dollars spent on Tokamak fusion (think <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITER">ITER</a>), LPP is conducting their research on a budget around a million dollars. Yet, if it works, it will provide nuclear fusion with <a href="http://focusfusion.org/index.php/site/article/25/">much simpler equipment and much less cost</a>.  Eric Lerner and Focus Fusion <a href="http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/01/09/028251/Spiraling-Magnetic-Signal-Shows-Up-In-the-Cosmic-Background">have</a> <a href="http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/08/05/26/1924242/Eric-Lerners-Focus-Fusion-Device-Gets-Funded">been</a> <a href="http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/07/10/27/1813225/Focus-Fusion-On-Google-Tech-Talks">discussed</a> on Slashdot <a href="http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/05/11/05/161216/Alternative-to-Tokamak-Fusion-Reactor">before</a>."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>ewsnow writes " The Focus Fusion Society reports that the scientists and engineers at Lawrenceville Plasma Physics have finally built an operational Dense Plasma Focus device .
While still at less than half power , they were able to achieve a pinch on their device .
The small company that Eric Lerner started recently gathered enough funding to start a two-year study on the validity of his theory regarding fusion-inducing plasmoids .
If the theory holds , the device will produce more electricity than it consumes .
In contrast to the billions of dollars spent on Tokamak fusion ( think ITER ) , LPP is conducting their research on a budget around a million dollars .
Yet , if it works , it will provide nuclear fusion with much simpler equipment and much less cost .
Eric Lerner and Focus Fusion have been discussed on Slashdot before .
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<sentencetext>ewsnow writes "The Focus Fusion Society reports that the scientists and engineers at Lawrenceville Plasma Physics have finally built an operational Dense Plasma Focus device.
While still at less than half power, they were able to achieve a pinch on their device.
The small company that Eric Lerner started recently gathered enough funding to start a two-year study on the validity of his theory regarding fusion-inducing plasmoids.
If the theory holds, the device will produce more electricity than it consumes.
In contrast to the billions of dollars spent on Tokamak fusion (think ITER), LPP is conducting their research on a budget around a million dollars.
Yet, if it works, it will provide nuclear fusion with much simpler equipment and much less cost.
Eric Lerner and Focus Fusion have been discussed on Slashdot before.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29789919</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>Planesdragon</author>
	<datestamp>1255886520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The public needs to be shown that the word "nuclear" is not cause for panic.</p> </div><p>Two nuclear weapons ended the biggest war of human history.  Two.  And then the threat of even one more being used kept two alliances with far starker differences than that war's adversaries from ever entering into direct conflict -- because they were afraid of nuclear weapons.</p><p>Find a new word if you want -- "fission" and "fusion" are perfectly serviceable -- but the public's fear of the word "nuclear" is warranted by history, and will not go away anytime soon.</p></div>
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<tokenext>The public needs to be shown that the word " nuclear " is not cause for panic .
Two nuclear weapons ended the biggest war of human history .
Two. And then the threat of even one more being used kept two alliances with far starker differences than that war 's adversaries from ever entering into direct conflict -- because they were afraid of nuclear weapons.Find a new word if you want -- " fission " and " fusion " are perfectly serviceable -- but the public 's fear of the word " nuclear " is warranted by history , and will not go away anytime soon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The public needs to be shown that the word "nuclear" is not cause for panic.
Two nuclear weapons ended the biggest war of human history.
Two.  And then the threat of even one more being used kept two alliances with far starker differences than that war's adversaries from ever entering into direct conflict -- because they were afraid of nuclear weapons.Find a new word if you want -- "fission" and "fusion" are perfectly serviceable -- but the public's fear of the word "nuclear" is warranted by history, and will not go away anytime soon.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29787581</id>
	<title>Re:ah...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255865040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Unfortunately, plasma will always expand without some external forces (magnetic coils, gravity,...), so cant be self confining.</p><p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virial\_theorem</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately , plasma will always expand without some external forces ( magnetic coils , gravity,... ) , so cant be self confining.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virial \ _theorem</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately, plasma will always expand without some external forces (magnetic coils, gravity,...), so cant be self confining.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virial\_theorem</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29803499</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255967220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>Children are inoculated to think its bad at all levels... Look at the original simcity.... If you had a nuclear plant it was a mater of time before it melted down, and a monster would appear. And it polluted far more then having a daisy chain of coal plants ever would, even if it doesn't melt down....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Children are inoculated to think its bad at all levels... Look at the original simcity.... If you had a nuclear plant it was a mater of time before it melted down , and a monster would appear .
And it polluted far more then having a daisy chain of coal plants ever would , even if it does n't melt down... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Children are inoculated to think its bad at all levels... Look at the original simcity.... If you had a nuclear plant it was a mater of time before it melted down, and a monster would appear.
And it polluted far more then having a daisy chain of coal plants ever would, even if it doesn't melt down....</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Cheap energy is social justice</title>
	<author>allcoolnameswheretak</author>
	<datestamp>1255857900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cheap energy like nuclear fusion is much more than social justice. It means no more CO2 emissions from coal power, no more oil dependency from undemocratic countries, it means hydroelectric cars for everybody, cheap desalination and therefore cheap fresh water and irrigation. Energy is everything. Once we get this done, it might actually save the planet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cheap energy like nuclear fusion is much more than social justice .
It means no more CO2 emissions from coal power , no more oil dependency from undemocratic countries , it means hydroelectric cars for everybody , cheap desalination and therefore cheap fresh water and irrigation .
Energy is everything .
Once we get this done , it might actually save the planet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cheap energy like nuclear fusion is much more than social justice.
It means no more CO2 emissions from coal power, no more oil dependency from undemocratic countries, it means hydroelectric cars for everybody, cheap desalination and therefore cheap fresh water and irrigation.
Energy is everything.
Once we get this done, it might actually save the planet.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29786457</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>wizardforce</author>
	<datestamp>1255857000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>After all, the reasons the public gets nervous when it hears the words "nuclear" and "power" in the same sentence are related to the checkered history of commercial nuclear power generation.</p></div></blockquote><p> nonsense.  The public is afraid because of two reactor accidents; the first one was caused in large part because the reactor in question was little more advanced than the graphite/uranium pile we used in the 40's and that the reactor's safety mechanisms and proper procedure were ignored by a quota happy communist state.  The second was contained.  The incident at three mile island was also caused by ignoring the safety mechanisms in the reactor *again*.  You want an example of an industry with a checkered past?  Try Coal for once.  The number of people killed mining coal and all the mercury, uranium and thorium release not to mention that it's fraking up our atmosphere and climate with excess CO2 and you're worried about nuclear energy?  Where the only problems with nuclear power involved two incidents with 30 and 40 year old reactor designs where even then didn't come close to the kill score that coal has.  Not even an order of magnitude.</p></div>
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<tokenext>After all , the reasons the public gets nervous when it hears the words " nuclear " and " power " in the same sentence are related to the checkered history of commercial nuclear power generation .
nonsense. The public is afraid because of two reactor accidents ; the first one was caused in large part because the reactor in question was little more advanced than the graphite/uranium pile we used in the 40 's and that the reactor 's safety mechanisms and proper procedure were ignored by a quota happy communist state .
The second was contained .
The incident at three mile island was also caused by ignoring the safety mechanisms in the reactor * again * .
You want an example of an industry with a checkered past ?
Try Coal for once .
The number of people killed mining coal and all the mercury , uranium and thorium release not to mention that it 's fraking up our atmosphere and climate with excess CO2 and you 're worried about nuclear energy ?
Where the only problems with nuclear power involved two incidents with 30 and 40 year old reactor designs where even then did n't come close to the kill score that coal has .
Not even an order of magnitude .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After all, the reasons the public gets nervous when it hears the words "nuclear" and "power" in the same sentence are related to the checkered history of commercial nuclear power generation.
nonsense.  The public is afraid because of two reactor accidents; the first one was caused in large part because the reactor in question was little more advanced than the graphite/uranium pile we used in the 40's and that the reactor's safety mechanisms and proper procedure were ignored by a quota happy communist state.
The second was contained.
The incident at three mile island was also caused by ignoring the safety mechanisms in the reactor *again*.
You want an example of an industry with a checkered past?
Try Coal for once.
The number of people killed mining coal and all the mercury, uranium and thorium release not to mention that it's fraking up our atmosphere and climate with excess CO2 and you're worried about nuclear energy?
Where the only problems with nuclear power involved two incidents with 30 and 40 year old reactor designs where even then didn't come close to the kill score that coal has.
Not even an order of magnitude.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29787931</id>
	<title>Re:Cheap energy is social justice</title>
	<author>Mista2</author>
	<datestamp>1255868460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The danger of cheap abundant electricity is the risk of the power just being wasted becasue it is so cheap, then suddenly there will be a hydrogen crunch or something where you jsut cant get enough electrons any more, or it cant be distributed, or stored, or managed etc.</p><p>Smarte power grids will help out before fusion is cheap enough to mass produce electricity, and then every house on the block could be soaking up photons and powering themselves, or their street while everyone is away at work and the only power is being consumed by their LCD TVs and DVRs on standby 8)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The danger of cheap abundant electricity is the risk of the power just being wasted becasue it is so cheap , then suddenly there will be a hydrogen crunch or something where you jsut cant get enough electrons any more , or it cant be distributed , or stored , or managed etc.Smarte power grids will help out before fusion is cheap enough to mass produce electricity , and then every house on the block could be soaking up photons and powering themselves , or their street while everyone is away at work and the only power is being consumed by their LCD TVs and DVRs on standby 8 )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The danger of cheap abundant electricity is the risk of the power just being wasted becasue it is so cheap, then suddenly there will be a hydrogen crunch or something where you jsut cant get enough electrons any more, or it cant be distributed, or stored, or managed etc.Smarte power grids will help out before fusion is cheap enough to mass produce electricity, and then every house on the block could be soaking up photons and powering themselves, or their street while everyone is away at work and the only power is being consumed by their LCD TVs and DVRs on standby 8)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29786091</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255897140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Hydrogen Energy".  Think of the Hindenberg.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Hydrogen Energy " .
Think of the Hindenberg .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Hydrogen Energy".
Think of the Hindenberg.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29786859</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1255859760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, as long as people openly brag about being too dumb to program a freakin' VCR/DVR, no chance here.<br>Somehow, being a retard became cool, and being intelligent became uncool. The scene at the beginning of Idiocracy, where they chase Joe away from that burning barrel, because he sounds "pompous and faggy". That's what's already happening every day on TV.</p><p>And I know exactly, how it came to this!<br>What do you think happens, when everyone for decades, follows the rules that<br>* everyone is equal, (There are no two equal humans. Not even twins.)<br>* nobody is allowed to point out deficiencies in others (But insulting people because you are jealous that they are able to do things that you can't do because you're too dumb, is aww-right.)<br>* the worse you perform, the more "special" you are (No you're not!)<br>* and most importantly: The worse you perform, the more support you will get. Oh, you don't get it? Then I am at fault, because I should have made it more simple. (NO, you're NOT! He does not get it? Well, he should perhaps, you know, USE HIS BRAIN! His brain is not much different from everyone else's. He should stop making up excuses and attack people for his own failure and laziness! [Don't *actually* say that. But also don't cave in. Tell him "Well, tough luck. But I think if you think you can easily understand it, if you give it a bit more time.")</p><p>Why don't we just start to treat everyone exactly for what he is. No lies. No being unfair in either direction. But rather point out the positive things than the negative ones, for motivation's sake. (So that people actually want and try to perform better, like in a game, where you want to win. After all, games are the training for real life.)</p><p>P.S.: If you think that I promote the <em>opposite</em> of what I criticize, you have not really understood me. But I think if you read the last paragraph again, you will.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , as long as people openly brag about being too dumb to program a freakin ' VCR/DVR , no chance here.Somehow , being a retard became cool , and being intelligent became uncool .
The scene at the beginning of Idiocracy , where they chase Joe away from that burning barrel , because he sounds " pompous and faggy " .
That 's what 's already happening every day on TV.And I know exactly , how it came to this ! What do you think happens , when everyone for decades , follows the rules that * everyone is equal , ( There are no two equal humans .
Not even twins .
) * nobody is allowed to point out deficiencies in others ( But insulting people because you are jealous that they are able to do things that you ca n't do because you 're too dumb , is aww-right .
) * the worse you perform , the more " special " you are ( No you 're not !
) * and most importantly : The worse you perform , the more support you will get .
Oh , you do n't get it ?
Then I am at fault , because I should have made it more simple .
( NO , you 're NOT !
He does not get it ?
Well , he should perhaps , you know , USE HIS BRAIN !
His brain is not much different from everyone else 's .
He should stop making up excuses and attack people for his own failure and laziness !
[ Do n't * actually * say that .
But also do n't cave in .
Tell him " Well , tough luck .
But I think if you think you can easily understand it , if you give it a bit more time .
" ) Why do n't we just start to treat everyone exactly for what he is .
No lies .
No being unfair in either direction .
But rather point out the positive things than the negative ones , for motivation 's sake .
( So that people actually want and try to perform better , like in a game , where you want to win .
After all , games are the training for real life. ) P.S .
: If you think that I promote the opposite of what I criticize , you have not really understood me .
But I think if you read the last paragraph again , you will .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, as long as people openly brag about being too dumb to program a freakin' VCR/DVR, no chance here.Somehow, being a retard became cool, and being intelligent became uncool.
The scene at the beginning of Idiocracy, where they chase Joe away from that burning barrel, because he sounds "pompous and faggy".
That's what's already happening every day on TV.And I know exactly, how it came to this!What do you think happens, when everyone for decades, follows the rules that* everyone is equal, (There are no two equal humans.
Not even twins.
)* nobody is allowed to point out deficiencies in others (But insulting people because you are jealous that they are able to do things that you can't do because you're too dumb, is aww-right.
)* the worse you perform, the more "special" you are (No you're not!
)* and most importantly: The worse you perform, the more support you will get.
Oh, you don't get it?
Then I am at fault, because I should have made it more simple.
(NO, you're NOT!
He does not get it?
Well, he should perhaps, you know, USE HIS BRAIN!
His brain is not much different from everyone else's.
He should stop making up excuses and attack people for his own failure and laziness!
[Don't *actually* say that.
But also don't cave in.
Tell him "Well, tough luck.
But I think if you think you can easily understand it, if you give it a bit more time.
")Why don't we just start to treat everyone exactly for what he is.
No lies.
No being unfair in either direction.
But rather point out the positive things than the negative ones, for motivation's sake.
(So that people actually want and try to perform better, like in a game, where you want to win.
After all, games are the training for real life.)P.S.
: If you think that I promote the opposite of what I criticize, you have not really understood me.
But I think if you read the last paragraph again, you will.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29789085</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>bshensky</author>
	<datestamp>1255880460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Judeo-Christian nuclear abortion socialism!</p><p>I now await my Fox News story...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Judeo-Christian nuclear abortion socialism ! I now await my Fox News story.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Judeo-Christian nuclear abortion socialism!I now await my Fox News story...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29786035</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255896780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The public needs to be shown that the word "nuclear" is not cause for panic</p></div><p>True. And it will be easy once the industry demonstrates that it is indeed "not a cause for panic." After all, the reasons the public gets nervous when it hears the words "nuclear" and "power" in the same sentence are related to the checkered history of commercial nuclear power generation.</p></div>
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<tokenext>The public needs to be shown that the word " nuclear " is not cause for panicTrue .
And it will be easy once the industry demonstrates that it is indeed " not a cause for panic .
" After all , the reasons the public gets nervous when it hears the words " nuclear " and " power " in the same sentence are related to the checkered history of commercial nuclear power generation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The public needs to be shown that the word "nuclear" is not cause for panicTrue.
And it will be easy once the industry demonstrates that it is indeed "not a cause for panic.
" After all, the reasons the public gets nervous when it hears the words "nuclear" and "power" in the same sentence are related to the checkered history of commercial nuclear power generation.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29785799</id>
	<title>ah...</title>
	<author>wizardforce</author>
	<datestamp>1255895220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The idea is interesting- creating a self confining toroid of plasma instead of relying solely on external magnetic containment but from what I've seen of the "tech" it looks to be unfortunately the work of crackpots.  Don't get me wrong, I really hope that they actually succeed in doing what they're claiming they can but I sincerely doubt it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The idea is interesting- creating a self confining toroid of plasma instead of relying solely on external magnetic containment but from what I 've seen of the " tech " it looks to be unfortunately the work of crackpots .
Do n't get me wrong , I really hope that they actually succeed in doing what they 're claiming they can but I sincerely doubt it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The idea is interesting- creating a self confining toroid of plasma instead of relying solely on external magnetic containment but from what I've seen of the "tech" it looks to be unfortunately the work of crackpots.
Don't get me wrong, I really hope that they actually succeed in doing what they're claiming they can but I sincerely doubt it.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Excellent!</title>
	<author>cashman73</author>
	<datestamp>1255895280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is great news! If this works, I'll be able to install a Mr. Fusion device on my DeLorean, which should be able to generate the 1.21 Gigawatts of electricity that I need to run my flux capacitor! I'll no longer need to steal Plutonium from the Iranians!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is great news !
If this works , I 'll be able to install a Mr. Fusion device on my DeLorean , which should be able to generate the 1.21 Gigawatts of electricity that I need to run my flux capacitor !
I 'll no longer need to steal Plutonium from the Iranians !
; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is great news!
If this works, I'll be able to install a Mr. Fusion device on my DeLorean, which should be able to generate the 1.21 Gigawatts of electricity that I need to run my flux capacitor!
I'll no longer need to steal Plutonium from the Iranians!
;-)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29789663</id>
	<title>SDI, not NMR or MRI (was Re:Fusion!?)</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255884660000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The public needs to be shown that the word "nuclear" is not cause for panic.  Better yet, not to judge technology such as NMR as being dangerous simply because of the name.  But I guess it is too much to ask that they have even a basic competency in science.</p></div><p>This is a force that can be constructively harnessed.  For example, the decision to call it "Magentic Resonance Imaging" instead of "Nuclear Magnetic Resonance Imaging" decreased the general populace's fear of the procedure and increased utilization.  There is a general tendency to overutilize medical procedures, so this was a step in the wrong direction.  It should be renamed to "Sudden Death Imaging".</p></div>
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<tokenext>The public needs to be shown that the word " nuclear " is not cause for panic .
Better yet , not to judge technology such as NMR as being dangerous simply because of the name .
But I guess it is too much to ask that they have even a basic competency in science.This is a force that can be constructively harnessed .
For example , the decision to call it " Magentic Resonance Imaging " instead of " Nuclear Magnetic Resonance Imaging " decreased the general populace 's fear of the procedure and increased utilization .
There is a general tendency to overutilize medical procedures , so this was a step in the wrong direction .
It should be renamed to " Sudden Death Imaging " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The public needs to be shown that the word "nuclear" is not cause for panic.
Better yet, not to judge technology such as NMR as being dangerous simply because of the name.
But I guess it is too much to ask that they have even a basic competency in science.This is a force that can be constructively harnessed.
For example, the decision to call it "Magentic Resonance Imaging" instead of "Nuclear Magnetic Resonance Imaging" decreased the general populace's fear of the procedure and increased utilization.
There is a general tendency to overutilize medical procedures, so this was a step in the wrong direction.
It should be renamed to "Sudden Death Imaging".
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29788769</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255877220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Says the AC on Slashdot that obviously knows more than all the PhDs working on this project.  What an inflated sense of yourself you must have.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Says the AC on Slashdot that obviously knows more than all the PhDs working on this project .
What an inflated sense of yourself you must have .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Says the AC on Slashdot that obviously knows more than all the PhDs working on this project.
What an inflated sense of yourself you must have.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29785751</id>
	<title>Niggers are not human beings</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255894860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Niggers are walking bags of shit. All they do is stuff their fat lips with watermelon and fried chicken.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Niggers are walking bags of shit .
All they do is stuff their fat lips with watermelon and fried chicken .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Niggers are walking bags of shit.
All they do is stuff their fat lips with watermelon and fried chicken.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29788435</id>
	<title>Posting on /. is social justice (was: Cheap energy</title>
	<author>siglercm</author>
	<datestamp>1255873740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I really hope this works. I get more excited about networking technology for posting on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. than I do about efforts to raise the cost of<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. posting as a means to drive bandwidth conservation. Too much emphasis on conservation will lead to a world where only rich people have the freedom to make large numbers of posts on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. Access to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. posting must be pushed down to today's<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. impoverished. This will offer lots of ways for them to overcome their systemic<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. poverty.</p><p>If anyone would like a one hour pass to tour my futuristic, union-produced, cruelty-free, pollution-free/carbon neutral, class- and socially just utopian flying machine, please, feel free to ask.  Thank you.  And, no, I'm not being sarcastic (please see my parent post).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I really hope this works .
I get more excited about networking technology for posting on / .
than I do about efforts to raise the cost of / .
posting as a means to drive bandwidth conservation .
Too much emphasis on conservation will lead to a world where only rich people have the freedom to make large numbers of posts on / .
Access to / .
posting must be pushed down to today 's / .
impoverished. This will offer lots of ways for them to overcome their systemic / .
poverty.If anyone would like a one hour pass to tour my futuristic , union-produced , cruelty-free , pollution-free/carbon neutral , class- and socially just utopian flying machine , please , feel free to ask .
Thank you .
And , no , I 'm not being sarcastic ( please see my parent post ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really hope this works.
I get more excited about networking technology for posting on /.
than I do about efforts to raise the cost of /.
posting as a means to drive bandwidth conservation.
Too much emphasis on conservation will lead to a world where only rich people have the freedom to make large numbers of posts on /.
Access to /.
posting must be pushed down to today's /.
impoverished. This will offer lots of ways for them to overcome their systemic /.
poverty.If anyone would like a one hour pass to tour my futuristic, union-produced, cruelty-free, pollution-free/carbon neutral, class- and socially just utopian flying machine, please, feel free to ask.
Thank you.
And, no, I'm not being sarcastic (please see my parent post).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29788411</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255873380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All good points.  The difference between a coal accident and say Chernobyl?  People can move back into the area where the coal accident happened within weeks.  How long before people can move back into the area with Chernobyl?  I personally think people are being over reactionary though just as you point out.  But would you want the same people who are in charge of coal plants in charge of reactors?  As that is exactly what would happen.  Its not the designs I have a problem with its the people who run them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All good points .
The difference between a coal accident and say Chernobyl ?
People can move back into the area where the coal accident happened within weeks .
How long before people can move back into the area with Chernobyl ?
I personally think people are being over reactionary though just as you point out .
But would you want the same people who are in charge of coal plants in charge of reactors ?
As that is exactly what would happen .
Its not the designs I have a problem with its the people who run them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All good points.
The difference between a coal accident and say Chernobyl?
People can move back into the area where the coal accident happened within weeks.
How long before people can move back into the area with Chernobyl?
I personally think people are being over reactionary though just as you point out.
But would you want the same people who are in charge of coal plants in charge of reactors?
As that is exactly what would happen.
Its not the designs I have a problem with its the people who run them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29792151</id>
	<title>I'd rather see Erik Lehnsherr</title>
	<author>Hitman\_Frost</author>
	<datestamp>1255956060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>in charge of this, instead of Eric Lerner.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>in charge of this , instead of Eric Lerner .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>in charge of this, instead of Eric Lerner.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29787087</id>
	<title>Re:Cheap energy is social justice</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255861500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good call. The energy price spike in 2007-2008 caused a global food crisis; modern agriculture provides food as a function of how much energy is put into each unit area of land, so there is much more at stake than whether you can have incandescent light bulbs and leave your TV on standby.</p><p>Even if low-energy agriculture could somehow feed the world, that isn't our only problem. China and India have shrugged off imperialism, modernised their economies, and thats 2.5 billion people demanding western-level lifestyles and we don't have the political clout (nor the moral right) to say no to them. With our current energy sources, the planet simply can't handle it though.</p><p>Produce more energy. Promote gender equality (which reduces fertility rates to sustainable levels, without Chinese-style draconian population control methods). A better world is a higher energy one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good call .
The energy price spike in 2007-2008 caused a global food crisis ; modern agriculture provides food as a function of how much energy is put into each unit area of land , so there is much more at stake than whether you can have incandescent light bulbs and leave your TV on standby.Even if low-energy agriculture could somehow feed the world , that is n't our only problem .
China and India have shrugged off imperialism , modernised their economies , and thats 2.5 billion people demanding western-level lifestyles and we do n't have the political clout ( nor the moral right ) to say no to them .
With our current energy sources , the planet simply ca n't handle it though.Produce more energy .
Promote gender equality ( which reduces fertility rates to sustainable levels , without Chinese-style draconian population control methods ) .
A better world is a higher energy one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good call.
The energy price spike in 2007-2008 caused a global food crisis; modern agriculture provides food as a function of how much energy is put into each unit area of land, so there is much more at stake than whether you can have incandescent light bulbs and leave your TV on standby.Even if low-energy agriculture could somehow feed the world, that isn't our only problem.
China and India have shrugged off imperialism, modernised their economies, and thats 2.5 billion people demanding western-level lifestyles and we don't have the political clout (nor the moral right) to say no to them.
With our current energy sources, the planet simply can't handle it though.Produce more energy.
Promote gender equality (which reduces fertility rates to sustainable levels, without Chinese-style draconian population control methods).
A better world is a higher energy one.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29791439</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>angel'o'sphere</author>
	<datestamp>1255947540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your comparison of coal and nuclear energy makes no sense at all.<br>Comparing the mining activity of coal of the last few hundred years with the blow up of a nuclear plant, sigh, how should that be related to each other? If the plant around my corner "explodes", I <b>can</b>not run away, if you die in an mining accident, I <b>don't need</b> to run away!<br>The fact that you mention coal mining but think uranium etc. is not mined is also slightly irritating.<br>The main problem in our time is not "running" a nuclear plant, but storing the waste produced by running it. Neither the US nor Europe nor Japan has any reliable solution for treating the waste.<br>The "score of coal" as you call it is a misnomer. What about the "score of gold", the "score of titan", "the score of iron"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... etc. ?<br>Mining is dangerous, especial if you take 3rd world mining activities and slavery into account. But that has nothing to do with nuclear power<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... sigh.<br>I'm still a bit angry about your <i> Where the only problems with nuclear power involved<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... </i> part. What about the noticeable pollution of the northern sea with plutonium? What about the general danger of mining uranium and the involved pollution? What about the risk of transporting fuel and waste? What about the risk of enriching weapon grade uranium? What about dust etc. blown into the atmosphere during uranium processing? What about tritium exhaust of nuclear plants? What about leukemia and other cancer cases close to nuclear power plants?</p><p>Anyway<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... I could continue with the most important question: nuclear is imho a bad energy source, you say coal is worse so lets take nuclear instead.I think: there are far better energy sources in our days<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and we should focus on the discussion about those.</p><p>Finally: is it meant ironically that you mix up the timely order of the major nuclear disasters? Or why did you mention Tchernobyl first and three miles island second? The other nuclear accidents you seem not to know<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;D pffft<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... so you only count till two. Interesting.</p><p>angel'o'sphere</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your comparison of coal and nuclear energy makes no sense at all.Comparing the mining activity of coal of the last few hundred years with the blow up of a nuclear plant , sigh , how should that be related to each other ?
If the plant around my corner " explodes " , I can not run away , if you die in an mining accident , I do n't need to run away ! The fact that you mention coal mining but think uranium etc .
is not mined is also slightly irritating.The main problem in our time is not " running " a nuclear plant , but storing the waste produced by running it .
Neither the US nor Europe nor Japan has any reliable solution for treating the waste.The " score of coal " as you call it is a misnomer .
What about the " score of gold " , the " score of titan " , " the score of iron " ... etc. ? Mining is dangerous , especial if you take 3rd world mining activities and slavery into account .
But that has nothing to do with nuclear power ... sigh.I 'm still a bit angry about your Where the only problems with nuclear power involved ... part. What about the noticeable pollution of the northern sea with plutonium ?
What about the general danger of mining uranium and the involved pollution ?
What about the risk of transporting fuel and waste ?
What about the risk of enriching weapon grade uranium ?
What about dust etc .
blown into the atmosphere during uranium processing ?
What about tritium exhaust of nuclear plants ?
What about leukemia and other cancer cases close to nuclear power plants ? Anyway ... I could continue with the most important question : nuclear is imho a bad energy source , you say coal is worse so lets take nuclear instead.I think : there are far better energy sources in our days ... and we should focus on the discussion about those.Finally : is it meant ironically that you mix up the timely order of the major nuclear disasters ?
Or why did you mention Tchernobyl first and three miles island second ?
The other nuclear accidents you seem not to know ; D pffft ... so you only count till two .
Interesting.angel'o'sphere</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your comparison of coal and nuclear energy makes no sense at all.Comparing the mining activity of coal of the last few hundred years with the blow up of a nuclear plant, sigh, how should that be related to each other?
If the plant around my corner "explodes", I cannot run away, if you die in an mining accident, I don't need to run away!The fact that you mention coal mining but think uranium etc.
is not mined is also slightly irritating.The main problem in our time is not "running" a nuclear plant, but storing the waste produced by running it.
Neither the US nor Europe nor Japan has any reliable solution for treating the waste.The "score of coal" as you call it is a misnomer.
What about the "score of gold", the "score of titan", "the score of iron" ... etc. ?Mining is dangerous, especial if you take 3rd world mining activities and slavery into account.
But that has nothing to do with nuclear power ... sigh.I'm still a bit angry about your  Where the only problems with nuclear power involved ...  part. What about the noticeable pollution of the northern sea with plutonium?
What about the general danger of mining uranium and the involved pollution?
What about the risk of transporting fuel and waste?
What about the risk of enriching weapon grade uranium?
What about dust etc.
blown into the atmosphere during uranium processing?
What about tritium exhaust of nuclear plants?
What about leukemia and other cancer cases close to nuclear power plants?Anyway ... I could continue with the most important question: nuclear is imho a bad energy source, you say coal is worse so lets take nuclear instead.I think: there are far better energy sources in our days ... and we should focus on the discussion about those.Finally: is it meant ironically that you mix up the timely order of the major nuclear disasters?
Or why did you mention Tchernobyl first and three miles island second?
The other nuclear accidents you seem not to know ;D pffft ... so you only count till two.
Interesting.angel'o'sphere</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29787199</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1255862280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm sure coal power kills more per year than nuclear ever has. Enjoy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure coal power kills more per year than nuclear ever has .
Enjoy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure coal power kills more per year than nuclear ever has.
Enjoy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29804003</id>
	<title>Re:Puzzling</title>
	<author>JSBiff</author>
	<datestamp>1255971780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The great thing about science is, it doesn't really matter whether you like/trust someone, or think they're a nutter, does it? If he can demonstrate that he is able to achieve fusion and produce more power out than put in, then he's right. If he can't, then he's wrong. If it works, it works, if it doesn't, it doesn't. What could be better than that? If he claims success, and then other, independent teams can reproduce the results, then that gives us confidence he is correct. If he claims success, but nobody else can ever reproduce it, then that gives us confidence he is (probably) a liar, a nutter, or both.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The great thing about science is , it does n't really matter whether you like/trust someone , or think they 're a nutter , does it ?
If he can demonstrate that he is able to achieve fusion and produce more power out than put in , then he 's right .
If he ca n't , then he 's wrong .
If it works , it works , if it does n't , it does n't .
What could be better than that ?
If he claims success , and then other , independent teams can reproduce the results , then that gives us confidence he is correct .
If he claims success , but nobody else can ever reproduce it , then that gives us confidence he is ( probably ) a liar , a nutter , or both .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The great thing about science is, it doesn't really matter whether you like/trust someone, or think they're a nutter, does it?
If he can demonstrate that he is able to achieve fusion and produce more power out than put in, then he's right.
If he can't, then he's wrong.
If it works, it works, if it doesn't, it doesn't.
What could be better than that?
If he claims success, and then other, independent teams can reproduce the results, then that gives us confidence he is correct.
If he claims success, but nobody else can ever reproduce it, then that gives us confidence he is (probably) a liar, a nutter, or both.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29787825</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255867380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm really not as afraid of, I dunno, Exxon as compared to "Green""Peace" with respects to global warming.</p></div><p>Are you suggesting that Greenpeace is in favour of fossil fuels while Exxon is against it?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm really not as afraid of , I dunno , Exxon as compared to " Green " " Peace " with respects to global warming.Are you suggesting that Greenpeace is in favour of fossil fuels while Exxon is against it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm really not as afraid of, I dunno, Exxon as compared to "Green""Peace" with respects to global warming.Are you suggesting that Greenpeace is in favour of fossil fuels while Exxon is against it?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29789273</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>budgenator</author>
	<datestamp>1255882200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'll bet a whole city or two have been abandoned to underground coal mine fires; <a href="http://www.offroaders.com/album/centralia/centralia.htm" title="offroaders.com">Centralia Pennsylvania</a> [offroaders.com] comes to mind for one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll bet a whole city or two have been abandoned to underground coal mine fires ; Centralia Pennsylvania [ offroaders.com ] comes to mind for one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll bet a whole city or two have been abandoned to underground coal mine fires; Centralia Pennsylvania [offroaders.com] comes to mind for one.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29786829</id>
	<title>Re:when the energy runs out - social justice... is</title>
	<author>LordAndrewSama</author>
	<datestamp>1255859520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>note to self:  be rich.</htmltext>
<tokenext>note to self : be rich .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>note to self:  be rich.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29788345</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>JavaBasedOS</author>
	<datestamp>1255872660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Well, Coal hasn't yet destroyed a whole city<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></div><p>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centralia,\_Pennsylvania" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Yes, it has.</a> [wikipedia.org] Let's not forget the countless people that received suffered from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalworker's\_pneumoconiosis" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">black lung</a> [wikipedia.org] or have died in collapsing mine tunnels, asphyxiation from odorless toxic gasses, among other things...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , Coal has n't yet destroyed a whole city .. . Yes , it has .
[ wikipedia.org ] Let 's not forget the countless people that received suffered from black lung [ wikipedia.org ] or have died in collapsing mine tunnels , asphyxiation from odorless toxic gasses , among other things.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, Coal hasn't yet destroyed a whole city ...
Yes, it has.
[wikipedia.org] Let's not forget the countless people that received suffered from black lung [wikipedia.org] or have died in collapsing mine tunnels, asphyxiation from odorless toxic gasses, among other things...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29856393</id>
	<title>Re:Puzzling</title>
	<author>reiisi</author>
	<datestamp>1256396880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes!</p><p>Since when has scientific dogma ever been wrong!?</p><p>(I'm thinking, say, of the perfection of circles, and how that lead logic through some bad assumptions about which way is down to certain odd conclusions about the location of the earth relative earth thing<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes ! Since when has scientific dogma ever been wrong ! ?
( I 'm thinking , say , of the perfection of circles , and how that lead logic through some bad assumptions about which way is down to certain odd conclusions about the location of the earth relative earth thing .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes!Since when has scientific dogma ever been wrong!?
(I'm thinking, say, of the perfection of circles, and how that lead logic through some bad assumptions about which way is down to certain odd conclusions about the location of the earth relative earth thing .
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29789553</id>
	<title>Re:Cheap energy is social justice</title>
	<author>jhol13</author>
	<datestamp>1255883940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unfortunately there is no viable method of generating cheap energy to the whole world.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately there is no viable method of generating cheap energy to the whole world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately there is no viable method of generating cheap energy to the whole world.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29788523</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255874640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You have a point there. Today's fuel cycles and reactor designs are so closely knit with nuclear weapons that even the best experts can't tell if Iran is building an energy program or a bomb program, or both.</p><p>We need to work more on and promote nuclear technologies that are useless for making weapons.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You have a point there .
Today 's fuel cycles and reactor designs are so closely knit with nuclear weapons that even the best experts ca n't tell if Iran is building an energy program or a bomb program , or both.We need to work more on and promote nuclear technologies that are useless for making weapons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have a point there.
Today's fuel cycles and reactor designs are so closely knit with nuclear weapons that even the best experts can't tell if Iran is building an energy program or a bomb program, or both.We need to work more on and promote nuclear technologies that are useless for making weapons.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29789753</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255885260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, the big problem with fission or fusion is that it doesn't contribute to the CO2 supply.  Since the planet has been running on bare minimum for quite a while, it would be nice to be able to use coal etc. to move the atmosphere back up to 1-2,000 ppm CO2 where it should be.  There's no warming issue, of course, both since warming is good and brings on boom times, and because CO2's influence is maxed out long ago.  However, solar warming might help raise CO2 levels back up by warming the ocean, the usual way it goes.</p><p>IAC, better hope Cooling doesn't happen.  Horrible storms (increased tropics/pole temp. gradients), collapsing agriculture, sudden ice sheet advances, plagues -- the historical record is clear. Terrible stuff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , the big problem with fission or fusion is that it does n't contribute to the CO2 supply .
Since the planet has been running on bare minimum for quite a while , it would be nice to be able to use coal etc .
to move the atmosphere back up to 1-2,000 ppm CO2 where it should be .
There 's no warming issue , of course , both since warming is good and brings on boom times , and because CO2 's influence is maxed out long ago .
However , solar warming might help raise CO2 levels back up by warming the ocean , the usual way it goes.IAC , better hope Cooling does n't happen .
Horrible storms ( increased tropics/pole temp .
gradients ) , collapsing agriculture , sudden ice sheet advances , plagues -- the historical record is clear .
Terrible stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, the big problem with fission or fusion is that it doesn't contribute to the CO2 supply.
Since the planet has been running on bare minimum for quite a while, it would be nice to be able to use coal etc.
to move the atmosphere back up to 1-2,000 ppm CO2 where it should be.
There's no warming issue, of course, both since warming is good and brings on boom times, and because CO2's influence is maxed out long ago.
However, solar warming might help raise CO2 levels back up by warming the ocean, the usual way it goes.IAC, better hope Cooling doesn't happen.
Horrible storms (increased tropics/pole temp.
gradients), collapsing agriculture, sudden ice sheet advances, plagues -- the historical record is clear.
Terrible stuff.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29791241</id>
	<title>Puzzling</title>
	<author>jandersen</author>
	<datestamp>1255944960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I look up Eric Lerner on Wikipedia, I can see that he is an activist who has been campaigning against things like the big bang - shouldn't this alone warn us to be bit skeptical? So why do we see this being taken serious again and again?</p><p>The fact that he has completed a scientific education is not in itself proof that he is right; there have been many brilliant scientists who have proposed theories that were later proven to be false - this is the way science works - but once a theory has been dismissed, it is time to move on and leave it behind. Perhaps the most well-known, and rather sad, example of this is Fred Hoyle, a brilliant cosmologist, who until his death clung on to his steady-state theory, while everybody else had accepted Einstein's theory as the best working model.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I look up Eric Lerner on Wikipedia , I can see that he is an activist who has been campaigning against things like the big bang - should n't this alone warn us to be bit skeptical ?
So why do we see this being taken serious again and again ? The fact that he has completed a scientific education is not in itself proof that he is right ; there have been many brilliant scientists who have proposed theories that were later proven to be false - this is the way science works - but once a theory has been dismissed , it is time to move on and leave it behind .
Perhaps the most well-known , and rather sad , example of this is Fred Hoyle , a brilliant cosmologist , who until his death clung on to his steady-state theory , while everybody else had accepted Einstein 's theory as the best working model .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I look up Eric Lerner on Wikipedia, I can see that he is an activist who has been campaigning against things like the big bang - shouldn't this alone warn us to be bit skeptical?
So why do we see this being taken serious again and again?The fact that he has completed a scientific education is not in itself proof that he is right; there have been many brilliant scientists who have proposed theories that were later proven to be false - this is the way science works - but once a theory has been dismissed, it is time to move on and leave it behind.
Perhaps the most well-known, and rather sad, example of this is Fred Hoyle, a brilliant cosmologist, who until his death clung on to his steady-state theory, while everybody else had accepted Einstein's theory as the best working model.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29790005</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>poofmeisterp</author>
	<datestamp>1255887060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You said nukular.  You made a funny.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</p><p>I'm agreeing with you, in case any other people *glare* miss it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You said nukular .
You made a funny .
: DI 'm agreeing with you , in case any other people * glare * miss it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You said nukular.
You made a funny.
:DI'm agreeing with you, in case any other people *glare* miss it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29785701</id>
	<title>My confession: I smell my own farts</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255894440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's true- I'll waft them up to my face, or fart on something then smell that. I've noticed a difference between smelling farts off my fingers and farting into a towel and smelling that. I prefer the towel. Sometimes, right before I take a shower, I'll wipe my ass with a towel or my underwear to smell my butt-perfume. I frequently pull the covers over my own head when I fart between the sheets. Oh, and I love the smell and frequency of my hangover farts. I love leaving my room for a few minutes and coming back to smell my still-lingering farts hanging in the air. To me its kind of like climing out of the swimming pool, getting in the hot tub for a few minutes, then going back into the pool. If I want to fart without making a lot of noise I'll reach into my pants and hold my buttcheeks apart with my fingers so the gas can leave my asshole unobstructed. it actually makes a very audible "pssssssssssssss" sound. Like if someone was in earshot but they couldn't see me, they would probably be wondering if i was farting with my fingers in my ass.</p><p>Sometimes if I'm in public I'll find "discreet" ways to indulge my fart-sniffing penchance. For example I'll try to pass gas as quietly as possible, then discreetly fan my thighs open and closed so the gas is wafted up to my face.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's true- I 'll waft them up to my face , or fart on something then smell that .
I 've noticed a difference between smelling farts off my fingers and farting into a towel and smelling that .
I prefer the towel .
Sometimes , right before I take a shower , I 'll wipe my ass with a towel or my underwear to smell my butt-perfume .
I frequently pull the covers over my own head when I fart between the sheets .
Oh , and I love the smell and frequency of my hangover farts .
I love leaving my room for a few minutes and coming back to smell my still-lingering farts hanging in the air .
To me its kind of like climing out of the swimming pool , getting in the hot tub for a few minutes , then going back into the pool .
If I want to fart without making a lot of noise I 'll reach into my pants and hold my buttcheeks apart with my fingers so the gas can leave my asshole unobstructed .
it actually makes a very audible " pssssssssssssss " sound .
Like if someone was in earshot but they could n't see me , they would probably be wondering if i was farting with my fingers in my ass.Sometimes if I 'm in public I 'll find " discreet " ways to indulge my fart-sniffing penchance .
For example I 'll try to pass gas as quietly as possible , then discreetly fan my thighs open and closed so the gas is wafted up to my face .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's true- I'll waft them up to my face, or fart on something then smell that.
I've noticed a difference between smelling farts off my fingers and farting into a towel and smelling that.
I prefer the towel.
Sometimes, right before I take a shower, I'll wipe my ass with a towel or my underwear to smell my butt-perfume.
I frequently pull the covers over my own head when I fart between the sheets.
Oh, and I love the smell and frequency of my hangover farts.
I love leaving my room for a few minutes and coming back to smell my still-lingering farts hanging in the air.
To me its kind of like climing out of the swimming pool, getting in the hot tub for a few minutes, then going back into the pool.
If I want to fart without making a lot of noise I'll reach into my pants and hold my buttcheeks apart with my fingers so the gas can leave my asshole unobstructed.
it actually makes a very audible "pssssssssssssss" sound.
Like if someone was in earshot but they couldn't see me, they would probably be wondering if i was farting with my fingers in my ass.Sometimes if I'm in public I'll find "discreet" ways to indulge my fart-sniffing penchance.
For example I'll try to pass gas as quietly as possible, then discreetly fan my thighs open and closed so the gas is wafted up to my face.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29786133</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>DiminishingReturn</author>
	<datestamp>1255897500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The public needs to be shown that the word "nuclear" is not cause for panic.</p></div><p>I don't know, people seem to like the nuclear family, don't they? We should call it family energy.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The public needs to be shown that the word " nuclear " is not cause for panic.I do n't know , people seem to like the nuclear family , do n't they ?
We should call it family energy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The public needs to be shown that the word "nuclear" is not cause for panic.I don't know, people seem to like the nuclear family, don't they?
We should call it family energy.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29785715</id>
	<title>Fusion!?</title>
	<author>blhack</author>
	<datestamp>1255894500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't that what they use on the sun!?  I don't want that sort of thing in my backyard!  what if the reaction gets out of control and it annihilates the entire solar system!?  What are we going to do with all of the nucular waste?</p><p>Folks, can we pretty please think of another name for this stuff?  50 years worth of misinformation is, I fear, holding us back.  People here the word "nuclear" and immediately start shitting their pants with fear.</p><p>I vote we call it "Hydrogen Energy".  After all, hydrogen is 2/3 of the ingredients in water!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't that what they use on the sun ! ?
I do n't want that sort of thing in my backyard !
what if the reaction gets out of control and it annihilates the entire solar system ! ?
What are we going to do with all of the nucular waste ? Folks , can we pretty please think of another name for this stuff ?
50 years worth of misinformation is , I fear , holding us back .
People here the word " nuclear " and immediately start shitting their pants with fear.I vote we call it " Hydrogen Energy " .
After all , hydrogen is 2/3 of the ingredients in water !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't that what they use on the sun!?
I don't want that sort of thing in my backyard!
what if the reaction gets out of control and it annihilates the entire solar system!?
What are we going to do with all of the nucular waste?Folks, can we pretty please think of another name for this stuff?
50 years worth of misinformation is, I fear, holding us back.
People here the word "nuclear" and immediately start shitting their pants with fear.I vote we call it "Hydrogen Energy".
After all, hydrogen is 2/3 of the ingredients in water!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29788167</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255870920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"the only problems with nuclear power involved two incidents with 30 and 40 year old reactor designs where even then didn't come close to the kill score that coal has"</p><p>Unfortunately, while Chernobyl didn't entail an immediate large body count, the countryside is pretty well ****'ed for quite some time to come.</p><p>And, of course, the total body count isn't in yet, since there are still idiots who hang around there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" the only problems with nuclear power involved two incidents with 30 and 40 year old reactor designs where even then did n't come close to the kill score that coal has " Unfortunately , while Chernobyl did n't entail an immediate large body count , the countryside is pretty well * * * * 'ed for quite some time to come.And , of course , the total body count is n't in yet , since there are still idiots who hang around there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"the only problems with nuclear power involved two incidents with 30 and 40 year old reactor designs where even then didn't come close to the kill score that coal has"Unfortunately, while Chernobyl didn't entail an immediate large body count, the countryside is pretty well ****'ed for quite some time to come.And, of course, the total body count isn't in yet, since there are still idiots who hang around there.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29788189</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>tcgibian</author>
	<datestamp>1255871100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is in fact a dangerous technology -- but only economically and politically.  There are squads of high powered contractors and ambitious politicians lining up to promote the next generation of the same old stuff, light water reactors.  They are not going to be pleased to see their attempts to extract buckets of wealth by building risk laden plants to generate expensive electricity emasculated by a simple, relatively safe and inexpensive machine.  Eric Lerner and his team know what they are doing.  They have taken a giant leap into the future, but if we want to take advantage of their discoveries, we will have to fight for it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is in fact a dangerous technology -- but only economically and politically .
There are squads of high powered contractors and ambitious politicians lining up to promote the next generation of the same old stuff , light water reactors .
They are not going to be pleased to see their attempts to extract buckets of wealth by building risk laden plants to generate expensive electricity emasculated by a simple , relatively safe and inexpensive machine .
Eric Lerner and his team know what they are doing .
They have taken a giant leap into the future , but if we want to take advantage of their discoveries , we will have to fight for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is in fact a dangerous technology -- but only economically and politically.
There are squads of high powered contractors and ambitious politicians lining up to promote the next generation of the same old stuff, light water reactors.
They are not going to be pleased to see their attempts to extract buckets of wealth by building risk laden plants to generate expensive electricity emasculated by a simple, relatively safe and inexpensive machine.
Eric Lerner and his team know what they are doing.
They have taken a giant leap into the future, but if we want to take advantage of their discoveries, we will have to fight for it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29792171</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255956300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>while we're on coal don't forget to mention the carbonium bomb!</p><p>yes i am being fasecious, but just to point out why all this gives non-science peeps the heebeejeebee's</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>while we 're on coal do n't forget to mention the carbonium bomb ! yes i am being fasecious , but just to point out why all this gives non-science peeps the heebeejeebee 's</tokentext>
<sentencetext>while we're on coal don't forget to mention the carbonium bomb!yes i am being fasecious, but just to point out why all this gives non-science peeps the heebeejeebee's</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29786437</id>
	<title>NMR, No that's too dangerous</title>
	<author>NotSoHeavyD3</author>
	<datestamp>1255856820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Nuclear magnetic resonance? God man don't you know how dangerous that is, it's got nuclear right in the name. You can only guess how many extra limbs you'd get from that. Now if you'll excuse me I have to get ready for my MRI tomorrow:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nuclear magnetic resonance ?
God man do n't you know how dangerous that is , it 's got nuclear right in the name .
You can only guess how many extra limbs you 'd get from that .
Now if you 'll excuse me I have to get ready for my MRI tomorrow : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nuclear magnetic resonance?
God man don't you know how dangerous that is, it's got nuclear right in the name.
You can only guess how many extra limbs you'd get from that.
Now if you'll excuse me I have to get ready for my MRI tomorrow:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29786817</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>SupremoMan</author>
	<datestamp>1255859460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah it's does wildly unpredictable Matter-Antimatter reactors that are dangerous.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah it 's does wildly unpredictable Matter-Antimatter reactors that are dangerous .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah it's does wildly unpredictable Matter-Antimatter reactors that are dangerous.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29790027</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>Teancum</author>
	<datestamp>1255887240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Heck, I'd go so far as to say that coal power kills far more per kilowatt-hour generated by an order of magnitude than nuclear power ever has... even if you throw in Chernobyl and add in Nagasaki and Hiroshima for extra body counts.</p><p>Off of  just mining accidents alone, coal mining has killed far more than all of the worst disasters and even deliberate uses of nuclear weaponry combined.</p><p>All of this even pales in comparison to those who receive contamination from radioactive materials released from the processing and use of coal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Heck , I 'd go so far as to say that coal power kills far more per kilowatt-hour generated by an order of magnitude than nuclear power ever has... even if you throw in Chernobyl and add in Nagasaki and Hiroshima for extra body counts.Off of just mining accidents alone , coal mining has killed far more than all of the worst disasters and even deliberate uses of nuclear weaponry combined.All of this even pales in comparison to those who receive contamination from radioactive materials released from the processing and use of coal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Heck, I'd go so far as to say that coal power kills far more per kilowatt-hour generated by an order of magnitude than nuclear power ever has... even if you throw in Chernobyl and add in Nagasaki and Hiroshima for extra body counts.Off of  just mining accidents alone, coal mining has killed far more than all of the worst disasters and even deliberate uses of nuclear weaponry combined.All of this even pales in comparison to those who receive contamination from radioactive materials released from the processing and use of coal.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29785723</id>
	<title>Cheap energy is social justice</title>
	<author>cryfreedomlove</author>
	<datestamp>1255894620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I really hope this works.  I get more excited about science for cheap and clean energy production than I do about efforts to raise the cost of energy consumption as a means to drive conservation. Too much emphasis on conservation will lead to a world where only rich people have the freedom to consume large amounts of energy.  Access to cheap and clean power must be pushed down to today's poor.  This will offer lots of ways for them to overcome their systemic poverty.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I really hope this works .
I get more excited about science for cheap and clean energy production than I do about efforts to raise the cost of energy consumption as a means to drive conservation .
Too much emphasis on conservation will lead to a world where only rich people have the freedom to consume large amounts of energy .
Access to cheap and clean power must be pushed down to today 's poor .
This will offer lots of ways for them to overcome their systemic poverty .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really hope this works.
I get more excited about science for cheap and clean energy production than I do about efforts to raise the cost of energy consumption as a means to drive conservation.
Too much emphasis on conservation will lead to a world where only rich people have the freedom to consume large amounts of energy.
Access to cheap and clean power must be pushed down to today's poor.
This will offer lots of ways for them to overcome their systemic poverty.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29797789</id>
	<title>Re:Cheap energy is social justice: TANSTAAFL</title>
	<author>minstrelmike</author>
	<datestamp>1255981860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Everything costs something. I'm still concerned about nuclear waste. If you think about our global warming problem, it is actually the problem of dealing with the waste from burning gasoline. Water pollution is essentially dealing with human and industrial waste. People slough off the waste problem even as they deal with the one they inherit from the grandparents.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Everything costs something .
I 'm still concerned about nuclear waste .
If you think about our global warming problem , it is actually the problem of dealing with the waste from burning gasoline .
Water pollution is essentially dealing with human and industrial waste .
People slough off the waste problem even as they deal with the one they inherit from the grandparents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everything costs something.
I'm still concerned about nuclear waste.
If you think about our global warming problem, it is actually the problem of dealing with the waste from burning gasoline.
Water pollution is essentially dealing with human and industrial waste.
People slough off the waste problem even as they deal with the one they inherit from the grandparents.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29787967</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>gyrogeerloose</author>
	<datestamp>1255868820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm sure coal power kills more per year than nuclear ever has.</p></div><p>Read my post again more carefully before you go off on a tangent.</p><p> I agreed with the original poster that the public needs to be <i>shown</i> that "the word 'nuclear' is not a cause for panic." I am not opposed to nuclear power, I was merely pointing out that people's fears of it are not totally irrational--as many nuclear power proponent make them out to be--and that the industry needs to demonstrate that in fact the public has no reason to fear a nuke plant in their home town. They have not done a very good job of this so far.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure coal power kills more per year than nuclear ever has.Read my post again more carefully before you go off on a tangent .
I agreed with the original poster that the public needs to be shown that " the word 'nuclear ' is not a cause for panic .
" I am not opposed to nuclear power , I was merely pointing out that people 's fears of it are not totally irrational--as many nuclear power proponent make them out to be--and that the industry needs to demonstrate that in fact the public has no reason to fear a nuke plant in their home town .
They have not done a very good job of this so far .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure coal power kills more per year than nuclear ever has.Read my post again more carefully before you go off on a tangent.
I agreed with the original poster that the public needs to be shown that "the word 'nuclear' is not a cause for panic.
" I am not opposed to nuclear power, I was merely pointing out that people's fears of it are not totally irrational--as many nuclear power proponent make them out to be--and that the industry needs to demonstrate that in fact the public has no reason to fear a nuke plant in their home town.
They have not done a very good job of this so far.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29788075</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>DeadChobi</author>
	<datestamp>1255870080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, Coal hasn't yet destroyed a whole city with a single bomb. That, and the public's wild imagination, are largely what causes the fear of nuclear power.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , Coal has n't yet destroyed a whole city with a single bomb .
That , and the public 's wild imagination , are largely what causes the fear of nuclear power .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, Coal hasn't yet destroyed a whole city with a single bomb.
That, and the public's wild imagination, are largely what causes the fear of nuclear power.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29794877</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>astrowill</author>
	<datestamp>1255970400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The public needs to be shown that the word "nuclear" is not cause for panic.  Better yet, not to judge technology such as NMR as being dangerous simply because of the name.  </p></div><p>You go to hospital and be given an enema instead of NMR because the nurse misheard and tell me it's not dangerous!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The public needs to be shown that the word " nuclear " is not cause for panic .
Better yet , not to judge technology such as NMR as being dangerous simply because of the name .
You go to hospital and be given an enema instead of NMR because the nurse misheard and tell me it 's not dangerous !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The public needs to be shown that the word "nuclear" is not cause for panic.
Better yet, not to judge technology such as NMR as being dangerous simply because of the name.
You go to hospital and be given an enema instead of NMR because the nurse misheard and tell me it's not dangerous!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29786217</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255898160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your post is the fusion of moron.</p><p>get it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your post is the fusion of moron.get it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your post is the fusion of moron.get it?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29786571</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>strstr</author>
	<datestamp>1255857900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The general population shouldn't have input in things like this anyway. Leave it to the educated people please.</p><p>Just my 2 cents. o\_O</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The general population should n't have input in things like this anyway .
Leave it to the educated people please.Just my 2 cents .
o \ _O</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The general population shouldn't have input in things like this anyway.
Leave it to the educated people please.Just my 2 cents.
o\_O</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29792915</id>
	<title>Re:Cheap energy is social justice</title>
	<author>vvaduva</author>
	<datestamp>1255961700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Social justice has little to do with energy - as long as people continue to be willing to take advantage of each other and do not have their hearts in the right place, social justice will continue to be an issue.  Small thugs all over the world keep millions of people in poverty and dark...you can have all the free energy you want...if the political climate is not in place, it will not happen.  FREEDOM is social justice, not energy.  Energy might be one of the vehicles to achieving freedom.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Social justice has little to do with energy - as long as people continue to be willing to take advantage of each other and do not have their hearts in the right place , social justice will continue to be an issue .
Small thugs all over the world keep millions of people in poverty and dark...you can have all the free energy you want...if the political climate is not in place , it will not happen .
FREEDOM is social justice , not energy .
Energy might be one of the vehicles to achieving freedom .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Social justice has little to do with energy - as long as people continue to be willing to take advantage of each other and do not have their hearts in the right place, social justice will continue to be an issue.
Small thugs all over the world keep millions of people in poverty and dark...you can have all the free energy you want...if the political climate is not in place, it will not happen.
FREEDOM is social justice, not energy.
Energy might be one of the vehicles to achieving freedom.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29794427</id>
	<title>Re:Puzzling</title>
	<author>camg188</author>
	<datestamp>1255968300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The focusfusion.org website has a "Fun" section.  I don't know why I think that's funny.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The focusfusion.org website has a " Fun " section .
I do n't know why I think that 's funny .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The focusfusion.org website has a "Fun" section.
I don't know why I think that's funny.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29793431</id>
	<title>Re:Excellent!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255964160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This is great news! If this works, I'll be able to install a Mr. Fusion device on my DeLorean, which should be able to generate the 1.21 Gigawatts of electricity that I need to run my flux capacitor! I'll no longer need to steal Plutonium from the Iranians!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></div><p>:s/Iranians/Libyans/</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is great news !
If this works , I 'll be able to install a Mr. Fusion device on my DeLorean , which should be able to generate the 1.21 Gigawatts of electricity that I need to run my flux capacitor !
I 'll no longer need to steal Plutonium from the Iranians !
; - ) : s/Iranians/Libyans/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is great news!
If this works, I'll be able to install a Mr. Fusion device on my DeLorean, which should be able to generate the 1.21 Gigawatts of electricity that I need to run my flux capacitor!
I'll no longer need to steal Plutonium from the Iranians!
;-):s/Iranians/Libyans/
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29791463</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>CrazyChinaman</author>
	<datestamp>1255947840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually, Three Mile happened because a PORV (Power Operated Relief Valve) on the pressurizer was stuck open.  They were unaware of it (though things pointed to it, it had no positive indication of position), and as a result, secured cooling flow to the core, and the RCS inventory was lost through the PORV, uncovering the fuel.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , Three Mile happened because a PORV ( Power Operated Relief Valve ) on the pressurizer was stuck open .
They were unaware of it ( though things pointed to it , it had no positive indication of position ) , and as a result , secured cooling flow to the core , and the RCS inventory was lost through the PORV , uncovering the fuel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, Three Mile happened because a PORV (Power Operated Relief Valve) on the pressurizer was stuck open.
They were unaware of it (though things pointed to it, it had no positive indication of position), and as a result, secured cooling flow to the core, and the RCS inventory was lost through the PORV, uncovering the fuel.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29789063</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>budgenator</author>
	<datestamp>1255880220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This problem should go away after all of the liberal arts majors that went into teaching get trained in this new fangled ciriculum subject called "Critical Thinking" and then pass it along to their students.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This problem should go away after all of the liberal arts majors that went into teaching get trained in this new fangled ciriculum subject called " Critical Thinking " and then pass it along to their students .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This problem should go away after all of the liberal arts majors that went into teaching get trained in this new fangled ciriculum subject called "Critical Thinking" and then pass it along to their students.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29810717</id>
	<title>Paper Reactors</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256062380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Reminds me of testimony given by Rickover when he was being criticized by academia for pursuing pressurized water reactor technology when others thought that it would be better to more conduct studies.  Yes fusion may eventually (and hopefully) become a viable method of producing electricity...and solar possibly becoming large-scale practical, but ignoring what "fission" nuclear power can do right now - and has done safely for 1000s of reactor years - is irresponsible.</p><p>Paper Reactors, Real Reactors (1953)</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; "Paper Reactors, Real Reactors" (5 June 1953); Stating they were comments from the early 1950's Rickover read some of these statements as part of his testimony before Congress, published in AEC Authorizing Legislation: Hearings Before the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy (1970), p. 1702<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; It is incumbent on those in high places to make wise decisions and it is reasonable and important that the public be correctly informed.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * An academic reactor or reactor plant almost always has the following basic characteristics: (1) It is simple. (2) It is small. (3) It is cheap. (4) It is light. (5) It can be built very quickly. (6) It is very flexible in purpose. (7) Very little development will be required. It will use off-the-shelf components. (8) The reactor is in the study phase. It is not being built now.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; On the other hand a practical reactor can be distinguished by the following characteristics: (1) It is being built now. (2) It is behind schedule. (3) It requires an immense amount of development on apparently trivial items. (4) It is very expensive. (5) It takes a long time to build because of its engineering development problems. (6) It is large. (7) It is heavy. (8) It is complicated.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * The tools of the academic designer are a piece of paper and a pencil with an eraser. If a mistake is made, it can always be erased and changed. If the practical-reactor designer errs, he wears the mistake around his neck; it cannot be erased. Everyone sees it.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * The academic-reactor designer is a dilettante. He has not had to assume any real responsibility in connection with his projects. He is free to luxuriate in elegant ideas, the practical shortcomings of which can be relegated to the category of "mere technical details." The practical-reactor designer must live with these same technical details. Although recalcitrant and awkward, they must be solved and cannot be put off until tomorrow. Their solution requires manpower, time and money.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Unfortunately for those who must make far-reaching decision without the benefit of an intimate knowledge of reactor technology, and unfortunately for the interested public, it is much easier to get the academic side of an issue than the practical side. For a large part those involved with the academic reactors have more inclination and time to present their ideas in reports and orally to those who will listen. Since they are innocently unaware of the real but hidden difficulties of their plans, they speak with great facility and confidence. Those involved with practical reactors, humbled by their experiences, speak less and worry more.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Yet it is incumbent on those in high places to make wise decisions and it is reasonable and important that the public be correctly informed. It is consequently incumbent on all of us to state the facts as forthrightly as possible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Reminds me of testimony given by Rickover when he was being criticized by academia for pursuing pressurized water reactor technology when others thought that it would be better to more conduct studies .
Yes fusion may eventually ( and hopefully ) become a viable method of producing electricity...and solar possibly becoming large-scale practical , but ignoring what " fission " nuclear power can do right now - and has done safely for 1000s of reactor years - is irresponsible.Paper Reactors , Real Reactors ( 1953 )         " Paper Reactors , Real Reactors " ( 5 June 1953 ) ; Stating they were comments from the early 1950 's Rickover read some of these statements as part of his testimony before Congress , published in AEC Authorizing Legislation : Hearings Before the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy ( 1970 ) , p. 1702         It is incumbent on those in high places to make wise decisions and it is reasonable and important that the public be correctly informed .
        * An academic reactor or reactor plant almost always has the following basic characteristics : ( 1 ) It is simple .
( 2 ) It is small .
( 3 ) It is cheap .
( 4 ) It is light .
( 5 ) It can be built very quickly .
( 6 ) It is very flexible in purpose .
( 7 ) Very little development will be required .
It will use off-the-shelf components .
( 8 ) The reactor is in the study phase .
It is not being built now .
            On the other hand a practical reactor can be distinguished by the following characteristics : ( 1 ) It is being built now .
( 2 ) It is behind schedule .
( 3 ) It requires an immense amount of development on apparently trivial items .
( 4 ) It is very expensive .
( 5 ) It takes a long time to build because of its engineering development problems .
( 6 ) It is large .
( 7 ) It is heavy .
( 8 ) It is complicated .
        * The tools of the academic designer are a piece of paper and a pencil with an eraser .
If a mistake is made , it can always be erased and changed .
If the practical-reactor designer errs , he wears the mistake around his neck ; it can not be erased .
Everyone sees it .
        * The academic-reactor designer is a dilettante .
He has not had to assume any real responsibility in connection with his projects .
He is free to luxuriate in elegant ideas , the practical shortcomings of which can be relegated to the category of " mere technical details .
" The practical-reactor designer must live with these same technical details .
Although recalcitrant and awkward , they must be solved and can not be put off until tomorrow .
Their solution requires manpower , time and money .
        * Unfortunately for those who must make far-reaching decision without the benefit of an intimate knowledge of reactor technology , and unfortunately for the interested public , it is much easier to get the academic side of an issue than the practical side .
For a large part those involved with the academic reactors have more inclination and time to present their ideas in reports and orally to those who will listen .
Since they are innocently unaware of the real but hidden difficulties of their plans , they speak with great facility and confidence .
Those involved with practical reactors , humbled by their experiences , speak less and worry more .
        * Yet it is incumbent on those in high places to make wise decisions and it is reasonable and important that the public be correctly informed .
It is consequently incumbent on all of us to state the facts as forthrightly as possible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reminds me of testimony given by Rickover when he was being criticized by academia for pursuing pressurized water reactor technology when others thought that it would be better to more conduct studies.
Yes fusion may eventually (and hopefully) become a viable method of producing electricity...and solar possibly becoming large-scale practical, but ignoring what "fission" nuclear power can do right now - and has done safely for 1000s of reactor years - is irresponsible.Paper Reactors, Real Reactors (1953)
        "Paper Reactors, Real Reactors" (5 June 1953); Stating they were comments from the early 1950's Rickover read some of these statements as part of his testimony before Congress, published in AEC Authorizing Legislation: Hearings Before the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy (1970), p. 1702
        It is incumbent on those in high places to make wise decisions and it is reasonable and important that the public be correctly informed.
        * An academic reactor or reactor plant almost always has the following basic characteristics: (1) It is simple.
(2) It is small.
(3) It is cheap.
(4) It is light.
(5) It can be built very quickly.
(6) It is very flexible in purpose.
(7) Very little development will be required.
It will use off-the-shelf components.
(8) The reactor is in the study phase.
It is not being built now.
            On the other hand a practical reactor can be distinguished by the following characteristics: (1) It is being built now.
(2) It is behind schedule.
(3) It requires an immense amount of development on apparently trivial items.
(4) It is very expensive.
(5) It takes a long time to build because of its engineering development problems.
(6) It is large.
(7) It is heavy.
(8) It is complicated.
        * The tools of the academic designer are a piece of paper and a pencil with an eraser.
If a mistake is made, it can always be erased and changed.
If the practical-reactor designer errs, he wears the mistake around his neck; it cannot be erased.
Everyone sees it.
        * The academic-reactor designer is a dilettante.
He has not had to assume any real responsibility in connection with his projects.
He is free to luxuriate in elegant ideas, the practical shortcomings of which can be relegated to the category of "mere technical details.
" The practical-reactor designer must live with these same technical details.
Although recalcitrant and awkward, they must be solved and cannot be put off until tomorrow.
Their solution requires manpower, time and money.
        * Unfortunately for those who must make far-reaching decision without the benefit of an intimate knowledge of reactor technology, and unfortunately for the interested public, it is much easier to get the academic side of an issue than the practical side.
For a large part those involved with the academic reactors have more inclination and time to present their ideas in reports and orally to those who will listen.
Since they are innocently unaware of the real but hidden difficulties of their plans, they speak with great facility and confidence.
Those involved with practical reactors, humbled by their experiences, speak less and worry more.
        * Yet it is incumbent on those in high places to make wise decisions and it is reasonable and important that the public be correctly informed.
It is consequently incumbent on all of us to state the facts as forthrightly as possible.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29788843</id>
	<title>Re:Cheap energy is social justice</title>
	<author>DerekLyons</author>
	<datestamp>1255877940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Good call. The energy price spike in 2007-2008 caused a global food crisis; modern agriculture provides food as a function of how much energy is put into each unit area of land, so there is much more at stake than whether you can have incandescent light bulbs and leave your TV on standby.</p></div></blockquote><p>No, modern agriculture provides food as a function of how much energy <i>and petrochemicals</i> are put into each unit area of land.  The oil price spike caused a global food crisis because not only did it increase the costs of fuel (for farm operation as well as transport) it also increased the cost of the oil derived chemical feedstocks used in fertilizer.   It also increased the demand for ethanol, which meant cereal crops were shifted to ethanol production rather than being used as food.  (Aided by increased government subsidies for such diversion.)<br>
&nbsp; <br>Even if humanity ceased to output excess CO2 tomorrow, that's the planetary equivalent of celebrating the cutting off of a cancerous mole from your skin, while ignoring the cancer eating away at your liver, lungs, and brain.  We're still dumping tons of toxins, plastics, and other wastes and runoffs into the environment yearly.  Switching to chemical processes that don't use petrochemicals won't change that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Good call .
The energy price spike in 2007-2008 caused a global food crisis ; modern agriculture provides food as a function of how much energy is put into each unit area of land , so there is much more at stake than whether you can have incandescent light bulbs and leave your TV on standby.No , modern agriculture provides food as a function of how much energy and petrochemicals are put into each unit area of land .
The oil price spike caused a global food crisis because not only did it increase the costs of fuel ( for farm operation as well as transport ) it also increased the cost of the oil derived chemical feedstocks used in fertilizer .
It also increased the demand for ethanol , which meant cereal crops were shifted to ethanol production rather than being used as food .
( Aided by increased government subsidies for such diversion .
)   Even if humanity ceased to output excess CO2 tomorrow , that 's the planetary equivalent of celebrating the cutting off of a cancerous mole from your skin , while ignoring the cancer eating away at your liver , lungs , and brain .
We 're still dumping tons of toxins , plastics , and other wastes and runoffs into the environment yearly .
Switching to chemical processes that do n't use petrochemicals wo n't change that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good call.
The energy price spike in 2007-2008 caused a global food crisis; modern agriculture provides food as a function of how much energy is put into each unit area of land, so there is much more at stake than whether you can have incandescent light bulbs and leave your TV on standby.No, modern agriculture provides food as a function of how much energy and petrochemicals are put into each unit area of land.
The oil price spike caused a global food crisis because not only did it increase the costs of fuel (for farm operation as well as transport) it also increased the cost of the oil derived chemical feedstocks used in fertilizer.
It also increased the demand for ethanol, which meant cereal crops were shifted to ethanol production rather than being used as food.
(Aided by increased government subsidies for such diversion.
)
  Even if humanity ceased to output excess CO2 tomorrow, that's the planetary equivalent of celebrating the cutting off of a cancerous mole from your skin, while ignoring the cancer eating away at your liver, lungs, and brain.
We're still dumping tons of toxins, plastics, and other wastes and runoffs into the environment yearly.
Switching to chemical processes that don't use petrochemicals won't change that.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29786121</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255897380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I want to make a suggestion.</p><p>Let's put the most god-darn awful and polluting coal plants in the backyard of the morons who start "OMG NUKULAR THIS IS BAD"</p><p>I'm really not as afraid of, I dunno, Exxon as compared to "Green""Peace" with respects to global warming.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I want to make a suggestion.Let 's put the most god-darn awful and polluting coal plants in the backyard of the morons who start " OMG NUKULAR THIS IS BAD " I 'm really not as afraid of , I dunno , Exxon as compared to " Green " " Peace " with respects to global warming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I want to make a suggestion.Let's put the most god-darn awful and polluting coal plants in the backyard of the morons who start "OMG NUKULAR THIS IS BAD"I'm really not as afraid of, I dunno, Exxon as compared to "Green""Peace" with respects to global warming.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29790429</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255890480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's talk back in 4.468 billion years, when the uranium waste used today is half as dangerous as today. People aren't scared of nuclear power, they generally wonder how we would solve the waste problem.</p><p>And before you start about "breeding reactors", consider the secondary waste (gloves, suits, irradiated concrete,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...) which composes most of the waste.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's talk back in 4.468 billion years , when the uranium waste used today is half as dangerous as today .
People are n't scared of nuclear power , they generally wonder how we would solve the waste problem.And before you start about " breeding reactors " , consider the secondary waste ( gloves , suits , irradiated concrete , ... ) which composes most of the waste .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's talk back in 4.468 billion years, when the uranium waste used today is half as dangerous as today.
People aren't scared of nuclear power, they generally wonder how we would solve the waste problem.And before you start about "breeding reactors", consider the secondary waste (gloves, suits, irradiated concrete, ...) which composes most of the waste.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29785675</id>
	<title>Fusion?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255894260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sorry but the reaction "H + B -&gt; 3 He" is nuclear <i>fission</i> -- the fission of boron.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry but the reaction " H + B - &gt; 3 He " is nuclear fission -- the fission of boron .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry but the reaction "H + B -&gt; 3 He" is nuclear fission -- the fission of boron.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29786047</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>Tibia1</author>
	<datestamp>1255896900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The public is already scared of everything. They are also scared of hydrogen bombs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The public is already scared of everything .
They are also scared of hydrogen bombs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The public is already scared of everything.
They are also scared of hydrogen bombs.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29787225</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>Culture20</author>
	<datestamp>1255862400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We should use "Atomic"; ie "Atomic Fusion".  Although very 40's-50's-ish, at least it has less fear factor since "Atomic anything" was good back then.  When radiation and nuclear war became the bogeyman, "Nuclear" was the bad word.</htmltext>
<tokenext>We should use " Atomic " ; ie " Atomic Fusion " .
Although very 40 's-50 's-ish , at least it has less fear factor since " Atomic anything " was good back then .
When radiation and nuclear war became the bogeyman , " Nuclear " was the bad word .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We should use "Atomic"; ie "Atomic Fusion".
Although very 40's-50's-ish, at least it has less fear factor since "Atomic anything" was good back then.
When radiation and nuclear war became the bogeyman, "Nuclear" was the bad word.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29786959</id>
	<title>Re:when the energy runs out - social justice... is</title>
	<author>Kell Bengal</author>
	<datestamp>1255860540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So what you're saying is don't build swimming pools in dry areas?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So what you 're saying is do n't build swimming pools in dry areas ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So what you're saying is don't build swimming pools in dry areas?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29786519</id>
	<title>when the energy runs out - social justice... isn't</title>
	<author>turing\_m</author>
	<datestamp>1255857540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Imagine owning a swimming pool with porous walls. In order to use it, we either have to build a new swimming pool with non-porous walls (or hack it somehow), or constantly fill it up with more water. Which makes more sense? Do we have a water efficiency problem, or a water shortage? To improve the analogy a bit, let's say that we live in a very dry area and get new water from an aquifer.</p><p>Energy efficiency vs energy shortage is analogous. And when these ultimately short term methods of energy production are exhausted, the poor will die in droves.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Imagine owning a swimming pool with porous walls .
In order to use it , we either have to build a new swimming pool with non-porous walls ( or hack it somehow ) , or constantly fill it up with more water .
Which makes more sense ?
Do we have a water efficiency problem , or a water shortage ?
To improve the analogy a bit , let 's say that we live in a very dry area and get new water from an aquifer.Energy efficiency vs energy shortage is analogous .
And when these ultimately short term methods of energy production are exhausted , the poor will die in droves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Imagine owning a swimming pool with porous walls.
In order to use it, we either have to build a new swimming pool with non-porous walls (or hack it somehow), or constantly fill it up with more water.
Which makes more sense?
Do we have a water efficiency problem, or a water shortage?
To improve the analogy a bit, let's say that we live in a very dry area and get new water from an aquifer.Energy efficiency vs energy shortage is analogous.
And when these ultimately short term methods of energy production are exhausted, the poor will die in droves.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29785723</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29791485</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>angel'o'sphere</author>
	<datestamp>1255948260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i><br>I want to make a suggestion.<br>Let's put the most god-darn awful and polluting coal plants in the backyard of the morons who start "OMG NUKULAR THIS IS BAD"<br></i></p><p>I want to make a suggestion:<br>Lets build a modern coal plant that has no significant pollution (except CO2 ) in your backyard and then talk again<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>angel'o'sphere</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I want to make a suggestion.Let 's put the most god-darn awful and polluting coal plants in the backyard of the morons who start " OMG NUKULAR THIS IS BAD " I want to make a suggestion : Lets build a modern coal plant that has no significant pollution ( except CO2 ) in your backyard and then talk again ...angel'o'sphere</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I want to make a suggestion.Let's put the most god-darn awful and polluting coal plants in the backyard of the morons who start "OMG NUKULAR THIS IS BAD"I want to make a suggestion:Lets build a modern coal plant that has no significant pollution (except CO2 ) in your backyard and then talk again ...angel'o'sphere</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29786121</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29785841</id>
	<title>Re:Fusion!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255895520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The public needs to be shown that the word "nuclear" is not cause for panic.  Better yet, not to judge technology such as NMR as being dangerous simply because of the name.  But I guess it is too much to ask that they have even a basic competency in science.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The public needs to be shown that the word " nuclear " is not cause for panic .
Better yet , not to judge technology such as NMR as being dangerous simply because of the name .
But I guess it is too much to ask that they have even a basic competency in science .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The public needs to be shown that the word "nuclear" is not cause for panic.
Better yet, not to judge technology such as NMR as being dangerous simply because of the name.
But I guess it is too much to ask that they have even a basic competency in science.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29785715</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29785687</id>
	<title>Scotty?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255894320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If only could have been here to see that it can be done!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If only could have been here to see that it can be done !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If only could have been here to see that it can be done!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_18_1652201.29792567</id>
	<title>Re:Excellent!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255959540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not Iranian, Lybian.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not Iranian , Lybian .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not Iranian, Lybian.</sentencetext>
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