<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_17_1640237</id>
	<title>Arrested IBM Exec Goes MIA On the Web</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1255804200000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>theodp writes <i>"Among those charged in the <a href="//yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/10/16/200207&amp;tid=332">largest hedge-fund insider trading case in US history</a> was IBM Sr. VP Robert W. Moffat, the <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/16/insider\_trading\_for\_dummies/">heir apparent to IBM CEO Sam Palmisano</a> and the guy behind <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/24/technology/24blue.html">Big Blue's 'workforce rebalancing'</a> and the <a href="http://www.pcworld.com/article/120670/lenovo\_completes\_purchase\_of\_ibms\_pc\_unit.html">sale of IBM's PC unit to Lenovo</a>. IBM's not talking about the incident, but it's interesting that <a href="http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/biography/10068.wss">Moffat's bio is MIA at IBM.com</a> ('Biography you tried to access does not exist.'), and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MnPR4gxaAk">his Smarter Planet video can no longer be found</a> ('This video has been removed by the user.') at <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/dynamicinfrastructur#g/c/0DDDC40D6F3E1386">IBM's YouTube Channel</a>. Do you need approval from the Feds before tidying up after someone who's under investigation? BTW, if stories and comments appearing in the <a href="http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091017/BIZ/910170330">Times Herald-Record</a> and <a href="http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091016/NEWS01/91016014">Poughkeepsie Journal</a> are any indication, Moffat may want to avoid a local jury trial. 'I have talked to a few IBMers today, and there seems to be a lot of cheering in the halls of IBM over his arrest,' said Lee Conrad of Alliance@IBM."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>theodp writes " Among those charged in the largest hedge-fund insider trading case in US history was IBM Sr. VP Robert W. Moffat , the heir apparent to IBM CEO Sam Palmisano and the guy behind Big Blue 's 'workforce rebalancing ' and the sale of IBM 's PC unit to Lenovo .
IBM 's not talking about the incident , but it 's interesting that Moffat 's bio is MIA at IBM.com ( 'Biography you tried to access does not exist .
' ) , and his Smarter Planet video can no longer be found ( 'This video has been removed by the user .
' ) at IBM 's YouTube Channel .
Do you need approval from the Feds before tidying up after someone who 's under investigation ?
BTW , if stories and comments appearing in the Times Herald-Record and Poughkeepsie Journal are any indication , Moffat may want to avoid a local jury trial .
'I have talked to a few IBMers today , and there seems to be a lot of cheering in the halls of IBM over his arrest, ' said Lee Conrad of Alliance @ IBM .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>theodp writes "Among those charged in the largest hedge-fund insider trading case in US history was IBM Sr. VP Robert W. Moffat, the heir apparent to IBM CEO Sam Palmisano and the guy behind Big Blue's 'workforce rebalancing' and the sale of IBM's PC unit to Lenovo.
IBM's not talking about the incident, but it's interesting that Moffat's bio is MIA at IBM.com ('Biography you tried to access does not exist.
'), and his Smarter Planet video can no longer be found ('This video has been removed by the user.
') at IBM's YouTube Channel.
Do you need approval from the Feds before tidying up after someone who's under investigation?
BTW, if stories and comments appearing in the Times Herald-Record and Poughkeepsie Journal are any indication, Moffat may want to avoid a local jury trial.
'I have talked to a few IBMers today, and there seems to be a lot of cheering in the halls of IBM over his arrest,' said Lee Conrad of Alliance@IBM.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29780497</id>
	<title>Re:Funny enough</title>
	<author>slashchuck</author>
	<datestamp>1255779420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/biography/10068.wss" title="ibm.com" rel="nofollow">Here it is.  </a> [ibm.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here it is .
[ ibm.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here it is.
[ibm.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779019</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29781881</id>
	<title>Re:"Workforce rebalance"</title>
	<author>jawahar</author>
	<datestamp>1255799580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"Behind every great fortune there is a crime." --Honore de Balzac</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Behind every great fortune there is a crime .
" --Honore de Balzac</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Behind every great fortune there is a crime.
" --Honore de Balzac</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779169</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779019</id>
	<title>Funny enough</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255808520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What's funny is that I am able to access Moffat's biography just fine on the IBM Website. It's from July 2008 though. I dunno if there was a newer version, but it's there nevertheless.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's funny is that I am able to access Moffat 's biography just fine on the IBM Website .
It 's from July 2008 though .
I dunno if there was a newer version , but it 's there nevertheless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's funny is that I am able to access Moffat's biography just fine on the IBM Website.
It's from July 2008 though.
I dunno if there was a newer version, but it's there nevertheless.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779063</id>
	<title>I for one welcome...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255808820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the removal of my future overlord.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the removal of my future overlord .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the removal of my future overlord.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779153</id>
	<title>As an ex-ibm'er from the Hudson Valley...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255809600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just want to testify to the anger towards IBM in the Hudson Valley. IBM has moved from being a socially responsible organization towards being a profit driven company. During the process a lot of people have gotten hurt. People who invested their lives working for IBM lost their pensions. They went from being a massive economic presence and benefactor to being a fading sun. If this guy was one of the reasons for the move towards a new cutthroat IBM then good riddance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just want to testify to the anger towards IBM in the Hudson Valley .
IBM has moved from being a socially responsible organization towards being a profit driven company .
During the process a lot of people have gotten hurt .
People who invested their lives working for IBM lost their pensions .
They went from being a massive economic presence and benefactor to being a fading sun .
If this guy was one of the reasons for the move towards a new cutthroat IBM then good riddance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just want to testify to the anger towards IBM in the Hudson Valley.
IBM has moved from being a socially responsible organization towards being a profit driven company.
During the process a lot of people have gotten hurt.
People who invested their lives working for IBM lost their pensions.
They went from being a massive economic presence and benefactor to being a fading sun.
If this guy was one of the reasons for the move towards a new cutthroat IBM then good riddance.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779257</id>
	<title>Bio link works.</title>
	<author>nbetcher</author>
	<datestamp>1255810620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The link to Moffat's bio at IBM's site works just fine for me. Makes me wonder how fast this (or another) story made it to IBM web developers to fix this 'problem'.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The link to Moffat 's bio at IBM 's site works just fine for me .
Makes me wonder how fast this ( or another ) story made it to IBM web developers to fix this 'problem' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The link to Moffat's bio at IBM's site works just fine for me.
Makes me wonder how fast this (or another) story made it to IBM web developers to fix this 'problem'.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29784479</id>
	<title>bio is still available, as well as video I think</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255883280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Bio:</p><p>http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/biography/10068.wss</p><p>The video also I think: https://www.e-techservices.com/portal/IBM-Smarter-Planet-Videos</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Bio : http : //www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/biography/10068.wssThe video also I think : https : //www.e-techservices.com/portal/IBM-Smarter-Planet-Videos</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Bio:http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/biography/10068.wssThe video also I think: https://www.e-techservices.com/portal/IBM-Smarter-Planet-Videos</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779027</id>
	<title>IANAL, let alone a Fed...</title>
	<author>Shadow Wrought</author>
	<datestamp>1255808580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>But taking things down from the internet, tidying up as it were, doesn't sound the least bit questionable.  Now if they remove the video, bio, and all his other stuff from their files and destroy it, then there might be a problem.</htmltext>
<tokenext>But taking things down from the internet , tidying up as it were , does n't sound the least bit questionable .
Now if they remove the video , bio , and all his other stuff from their files and destroy it , then there might be a problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But taking things down from the internet, tidying up as it were, doesn't sound the least bit questionable.
Now if they remove the video, bio, and all his other stuff from their files and destroy it, then there might be a problem.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779427</id>
	<title>Bad summary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255812300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What the fuck does BTW mean? This isn't a SMS message, at least write the summary like an adult.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What the fuck does BTW mean ?
This is n't a SMS message , at least write the summary like an adult .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What the fuck does BTW mean?
This isn't a SMS message, at least write the summary like an adult.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779227</id>
	<title>Not accessible by you does not equal destroyed</title>
	<author>John Hasler</author>
	<datestamp>1255810380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Do you need approval from the Feds before tidying up after someone who's<br>&gt; under investigation?</p><p>While the courts might frown on destroying records relating to such a person there is no requirement that they remain on public display.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Do you need approval from the Feds before tidying up after someone who 's &gt; under investigation ? While the courts might frown on destroying records relating to such a person there is no requirement that they remain on public display .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Do you need approval from the Feds before tidying up after someone who's&gt; under investigation?While the courts might frown on destroying records relating to such a person there is no requirement that they remain on public display.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779125</id>
	<title>Missing BIO seems innocent enough</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255809360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think they use Notes for that sort of thing.</p><p>It is a wonder that everything doesn't go missing all the time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think they use Notes for that sort of thing.It is a wonder that everything does n't go missing all the time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think they use Notes for that sort of thing.It is a wonder that everything doesn't go missing all the time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29790455</id>
	<title>Re:RIP IBM Thinkpad...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255890960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Was the T61 the last good ThinkPad? The reason I ask is because I'm thinking of buying one, but I understand this was the first Lenovo branded ThinkPad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Was the T61 the last good ThinkPad ?
The reason I ask is because I 'm thinking of buying one , but I understand this was the first Lenovo branded ThinkPad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Was the T61 the last good ThinkPad?
The reason I ask is because I'm thinking of buying one, but I understand this was the first Lenovo branded ThinkPad.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779515</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779175</id>
	<title>Re:Funny enough</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255809840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're right, I was able to find it: <a href="http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/biography/10068.wss" title="ibm.com" rel="nofollow">here</a> [ibm.com].  The link was removed, but the page is there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're right , I was able to find it : here [ ibm.com ] .
The link was removed , but the page is there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're right, I was able to find it: here [ibm.com].
The link was removed, but the page is there.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779019</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779919</id>
	<title>Re:"Workforce rebalance"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255774140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the Globalized Workforce endeavour and Insider Trading are very similar in many ways. Both benefit the doer, and both hurt society as a whole.  Where will his children work? Not in Information Technology I bet!  Both show that money is not the final arbiter in all decisions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the Globalized Workforce endeavour and Insider Trading are very similar in many ways .
Both benefit the doer , and both hurt society as a whole .
Where will his children work ?
Not in Information Technology I bet !
Both show that money is not the final arbiter in all decisions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the Globalized Workforce endeavour and Insider Trading are very similar in many ways.
Both benefit the doer, and both hurt society as a whole.
Where will his children work?
Not in Information Technology I bet!
Both show that money is not the final arbiter in all decisions.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779169</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29782047</id>
	<title>It's back...</title>
	<author>sammcj</author>
	<datestamp>1255803360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's back...</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's back.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's back...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29782613</id>
	<title>Re:Time Was...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255899420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <b>Time was</b> people would network throughout the company and someone would be happy to help out if someone from another department needed help to move a project forward. <b>Time was</b> we believed we could do anything and our company wouldn't fuck us over.</p></div><p>Shouldn't that be 'A time when'?  Or where?  I'm being honest, I've never heard 'Time was'.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Time was people would network throughout the company and someone would be happy to help out if someone from another department needed help to move a project forward .
Time was we believed we could do anything and our company would n't fuck us over.Should n't that be 'A time when ' ?
Or where ?
I 'm being honest , I 've never heard 'Time was' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Time was people would network throughout the company and someone would be happy to help out if someone from another department needed help to move a project forward.
Time was we believed we could do anything and our company wouldn't fuck us over.Shouldn't that be 'A time when'?
Or where?
I'm being honest, I've never heard 'Time was'.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779999</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779877</id>
	<title>IBM has more scrubbing to do...</title>
	<author>bylo</author>
	<datestamp>1255773780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>e.g. <a href="http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/biography/10068.wss" title="ibm.com" rel="nofollow">http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/biography/10068.wss</a> [ibm.com]</p><p>[In case their scrubbers find this bio] "Robert W. Moffat, Jr.<br>Senior Vice President and Group Executive, Systems and Technology Group</p><p>Full biography</p><p>Robert W. Moffat, Jr. is senior vice president and group executive, IBM Systems and Technology Group. Named to this position in July 2008, Mr. Moffat is responsible for all IBM hardware offerings as well as the microelectronics division, which translates IBM research and development into semiconductor solutions for IBM systems and OEM clients. In addition, the company&rsquo;s integrated supply chain operations, which include global manufacturing, procurement and customer fulfillment, report to him.</p><p>Mr. Moffat was senior vice president, Integrated Operations. In this cross-functional role created in July 2005, he led an initiative to transform and integrate the company&rsquo;s supply chain and service delivery operations globally, leveraging new business process designs and advanced technology to achieve greater levels of efficiency while improving IBM's market responsiveness.</p><p>Prior to that, Mr. Moffat was senior vice president and group executive of IBM's Personal and Printing Systems Group, where he was responsible for worldwide sales, development, manufacturing and marketing of Personal Computers, Printing Systems and Retail Store Solutions. Before that, he was vice president, finance and planning for the Enterprise Systems Group.</p><p>Mr. Moffat has held a number of executive positions at IBM, including general manager of manufacturing, fulfillment and procurement initiatives for the PC business. He led the team that pioneered the Advanced Fulfillment Initiative, and channel collaboration initiatives, which were awarded the 1999 Franz Edelman Award, the highest recognition for achievement in operational research and management sciences, and supply chain management.</p><p>His other positions at IBM, since joining in 1978, included assistant general manager, finance, planning, and business support for the IBM PC Company in Europe, and vice president of finance and planning.</p><p>Mr. Moffat is a member of the IBM Performance Team and the IBM Corporate Operations Team. He serves as a member of the Board of Trustees for The Manufacturing Institute, an educational and research affiliate of the National Association of Manufacturers. He is also a non-voting observer on the Board of Directors of Lenovo Group Limited.</p><p>Mr. Moffat is a graduate of Union College in Schenectady, New York, with a B.S. degree in Economics. He also holds an MBA in Management Information Systems from Iona College in New Rochelle, New York.</p><p>July 2008"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>e.g .
http : //www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/biography/10068.wss [ ibm.com ] [ In case their scrubbers find this bio ] " Robert W. Moffat , Jr.Senior Vice President and Group Executive , Systems and Technology GroupFull biographyRobert W. Moffat , Jr. is senior vice president and group executive , IBM Systems and Technology Group .
Named to this position in July 2008 , Mr. Moffat is responsible for all IBM hardware offerings as well as the microelectronics division , which translates IBM research and development into semiconductor solutions for IBM systems and OEM clients .
In addition , the company    s integrated supply chain operations , which include global manufacturing , procurement and customer fulfillment , report to him.Mr .
Moffat was senior vice president , Integrated Operations .
In this cross-functional role created in July 2005 , he led an initiative to transform and integrate the company    s supply chain and service delivery operations globally , leveraging new business process designs and advanced technology to achieve greater levels of efficiency while improving IBM 's market responsiveness.Prior to that , Mr. Moffat was senior vice president and group executive of IBM 's Personal and Printing Systems Group , where he was responsible for worldwide sales , development , manufacturing and marketing of Personal Computers , Printing Systems and Retail Store Solutions .
Before that , he was vice president , finance and planning for the Enterprise Systems Group.Mr .
Moffat has held a number of executive positions at IBM , including general manager of manufacturing , fulfillment and procurement initiatives for the PC business .
He led the team that pioneered the Advanced Fulfillment Initiative , and channel collaboration initiatives , which were awarded the 1999 Franz Edelman Award , the highest recognition for achievement in operational research and management sciences , and supply chain management.His other positions at IBM , since joining in 1978 , included assistant general manager , finance , planning , and business support for the IBM PC Company in Europe , and vice president of finance and planning.Mr .
Moffat is a member of the IBM Performance Team and the IBM Corporate Operations Team .
He serves as a member of the Board of Trustees for The Manufacturing Institute , an educational and research affiliate of the National Association of Manufacturers .
He is also a non-voting observer on the Board of Directors of Lenovo Group Limited.Mr .
Moffat is a graduate of Union College in Schenectady , New York , with a B.S .
degree in Economics .
He also holds an MBA in Management Information Systems from Iona College in New Rochelle , New York.July 2008 "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>e.g.
http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/biography/10068.wss [ibm.com][In case their scrubbers find this bio] "Robert W. Moffat, Jr.Senior Vice President and Group Executive, Systems and Technology GroupFull biographyRobert W. Moffat, Jr. is senior vice president and group executive, IBM Systems and Technology Group.
Named to this position in July 2008, Mr. Moffat is responsible for all IBM hardware offerings as well as the microelectronics division, which translates IBM research and development into semiconductor solutions for IBM systems and OEM clients.
In addition, the company’s integrated supply chain operations, which include global manufacturing, procurement and customer fulfillment, report to him.Mr.
Moffat was senior vice president, Integrated Operations.
In this cross-functional role created in July 2005, he led an initiative to transform and integrate the company’s supply chain and service delivery operations globally, leveraging new business process designs and advanced technology to achieve greater levels of efficiency while improving IBM's market responsiveness.Prior to that, Mr. Moffat was senior vice president and group executive of IBM's Personal and Printing Systems Group, where he was responsible for worldwide sales, development, manufacturing and marketing of Personal Computers, Printing Systems and Retail Store Solutions.
Before that, he was vice president, finance and planning for the Enterprise Systems Group.Mr.
Moffat has held a number of executive positions at IBM, including general manager of manufacturing, fulfillment and procurement initiatives for the PC business.
He led the team that pioneered the Advanced Fulfillment Initiative, and channel collaboration initiatives, which were awarded the 1999 Franz Edelman Award, the highest recognition for achievement in operational research and management sciences, and supply chain management.His other positions at IBM, since joining in 1978, included assistant general manager, finance, planning, and business support for the IBM PC Company in Europe, and vice president of finance and planning.Mr.
Moffat is a member of the IBM Performance Team and the IBM Corporate Operations Team.
He serves as a member of the Board of Trustees for The Manufacturing Institute, an educational and research affiliate of the National Association of Manufacturers.
He is also a non-voting observer on the Board of Directors of Lenovo Group Limited.Mr.
Moffat is a graduate of Union College in Schenectady, New York, with a B.S.
degree in Economics.
He also holds an MBA in Management Information Systems from Iona College in New Rochelle, New York.July 2008"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779119</id>
	<title>Eh..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255809360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>it's working fine here. Full bio + a 1 MiB picture available for download.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>it 's working fine here .
Full bio + a 1 MiB picture available for download .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it's working fine here.
Full bio + a 1 MiB picture available for download.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29780595</id>
	<title>IBM CEO Gerstner raided the Pension Fund</title>
	<author>CuteSteveJobs</author>
	<datestamp>1255780380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>There's a lot Lou Gerstner did at IBM that wasn't well known, like his raiding the pension funds and decimating the product line (DB2 anyone?). The business press is fawning of Gerstner (these are after all the same people who praise Madden and the Wall Street investment banks after all), but if you look at Amazon's review of his book you'll find many comments that tell the parts he left out in Gerstner's masturbatory little book:
<p>
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Elephants-Dance-Inside-Historic-Turnaround/product-reviews/B00009NDAF/ref=cm\_cr\_dp\_hist\_2?ie=UTF8&amp;showViewpoints=0&amp;filterBy=addTwoStar" title="amazon.com">http://www.amazon.com/Elephants-Dance-Inside-Historic-Turnaround/product-reviews/B00009NDAF/ref=cm\_cr\_dp\_hist\_2?ie=UTF8&amp;showViewpoints=0&amp;filterBy=addTwoStar</a> [amazon.com]
</p><p>
Many like these:
</p><p>
"It is strangely ironic that, after doing his best to suppress all negative communication within IBM, it should be the reader feedback on amazon.com that alerts Gerstner to what the world at large really thinks of him. Ever since 1994 the newsreading public has been conned into a set of beliefs about IBM and Gerstner, simply through IBM's vice-like control of all media that wanted a share of IBM's ad spending. It is bizarre that he expects us to read through a critical employee e-mail on pages 81-82 of his book, when he admits that he couldn't even spare the time to reply to it himself.
</p><p>
Gerstner was the IBM CEO with a worse revenue record than John Akers, the man he replaced. The only way Gerstner could find to grow revenue was by buying firms like Lotus. He turned what was a fantastic company to work for into a an ordinary one. He writes in the book that he transformed the company into a firm where the most able got the most rewards. In fact he converted it into a firm where the most aggressive individuals, like Gerstner, win through. He destroyed IBM's employee benefits schemes across the world, claiming they were unaffordable at the time of IBM's darkest hour. Perhaps they were at that time, but Gerstner's greatest sin was that he never returned any of the benefits to the employees when business improved, except through a silly bonus scheme that in my experience never motivated anyone. The result is that IBM has become a company that people still want to have on their CV, but those who join in mid-career almost never stay more than two years.
</p><p>
Gerstner groped around and never really found the right idea for growing revenue. His shift to services meant that he took his eye off all the products in the IBM catalogue, and IBM architectures have become an irrelevance in a world now dominated by Windows, TCP/IP, Linux, Solaris and Oracle. He used the AS/400 as a cash cow when a very aggressive pricing scheme could have seen the system create the market that Windows NT instead built. Gerstner has said the Internet saved IBM, but frankly it did a lot more for rivals like Microsoft and Sun.
</p><p>
There's a part of me that makes me think this book is one huge, ironic joke -- the guy only pretends to be unaware of the impact of his decisions on others. He boasts about a turnaround that never was and advocates management behaviour that no-one should accept.
</p><p>
That would be fine if it were confined to the pages of this book. But unfortunately the impact of Gerstner is written large across the lives of many, many individuals who crossed his path, both inside and outside IBM. The blight cast over their lives means that, when they get the chance, they usually don't recommend IBM products. Gerstner just doesn't understand that.
</p><p>
These pages on amazon ought to be required reading for anyone foolish enough to think they want a career in IBM. "</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a lot Lou Gerstner did at IBM that was n't well known , like his raiding the pension funds and decimating the product line ( DB2 anyone ? ) .
The business press is fawning of Gerstner ( these are after all the same people who praise Madden and the Wall Street investment banks after all ) , but if you look at Amazon 's review of his book you 'll find many comments that tell the parts he left out in Gerstner 's masturbatory little book : http : //www.amazon.com/Elephants-Dance-Inside-Historic-Turnaround/product-reviews/B00009NDAF/ref = cm \ _cr \ _dp \ _hist \ _2 ? ie = UTF8&amp;showViewpoints = 0&amp;filterBy = addTwoStar [ amazon.com ] Many like these : " It is strangely ironic that , after doing his best to suppress all negative communication within IBM , it should be the reader feedback on amazon.com that alerts Gerstner to what the world at large really thinks of him .
Ever since 1994 the newsreading public has been conned into a set of beliefs about IBM and Gerstner , simply through IBM 's vice-like control of all media that wanted a share of IBM 's ad spending .
It is bizarre that he expects us to read through a critical employee e-mail on pages 81-82 of his book , when he admits that he could n't even spare the time to reply to it himself .
Gerstner was the IBM CEO with a worse revenue record than John Akers , the man he replaced .
The only way Gerstner could find to grow revenue was by buying firms like Lotus .
He turned what was a fantastic company to work for into a an ordinary one .
He writes in the book that he transformed the company into a firm where the most able got the most rewards .
In fact he converted it into a firm where the most aggressive individuals , like Gerstner , win through .
He destroyed IBM 's employee benefits schemes across the world , claiming they were unaffordable at the time of IBM 's darkest hour .
Perhaps they were at that time , but Gerstner 's greatest sin was that he never returned any of the benefits to the employees when business improved , except through a silly bonus scheme that in my experience never motivated anyone .
The result is that IBM has become a company that people still want to have on their CV , but those who join in mid-career almost never stay more than two years .
Gerstner groped around and never really found the right idea for growing revenue .
His shift to services meant that he took his eye off all the products in the IBM catalogue , and IBM architectures have become an irrelevance in a world now dominated by Windows , TCP/IP , Linux , Solaris and Oracle .
He used the AS/400 as a cash cow when a very aggressive pricing scheme could have seen the system create the market that Windows NT instead built .
Gerstner has said the Internet saved IBM , but frankly it did a lot more for rivals like Microsoft and Sun .
There 's a part of me that makes me think this book is one huge , ironic joke -- the guy only pretends to be unaware of the impact of his decisions on others .
He boasts about a turnaround that never was and advocates management behaviour that no-one should accept .
That would be fine if it were confined to the pages of this book .
But unfortunately the impact of Gerstner is written large across the lives of many , many individuals who crossed his path , both inside and outside IBM .
The blight cast over their lives means that , when they get the chance , they usually do n't recommend IBM products .
Gerstner just does n't understand that .
These pages on amazon ought to be required reading for anyone foolish enough to think they want a career in IBM .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a lot Lou Gerstner did at IBM that wasn't well known, like his raiding the pension funds and decimating the product line (DB2 anyone?).
The business press is fawning of Gerstner (these are after all the same people who praise Madden and the Wall Street investment banks after all), but if you look at Amazon's review of his book you'll find many comments that tell the parts he left out in Gerstner's masturbatory little book:

http://www.amazon.com/Elephants-Dance-Inside-Historic-Turnaround/product-reviews/B00009NDAF/ref=cm\_cr\_dp\_hist\_2?ie=UTF8&amp;showViewpoints=0&amp;filterBy=addTwoStar [amazon.com]

Many like these:

"It is strangely ironic that, after doing his best to suppress all negative communication within IBM, it should be the reader feedback on amazon.com that alerts Gerstner to what the world at large really thinks of him.
Ever since 1994 the newsreading public has been conned into a set of beliefs about IBM and Gerstner, simply through IBM's vice-like control of all media that wanted a share of IBM's ad spending.
It is bizarre that he expects us to read through a critical employee e-mail on pages 81-82 of his book, when he admits that he couldn't even spare the time to reply to it himself.
Gerstner was the IBM CEO with a worse revenue record than John Akers, the man he replaced.
The only way Gerstner could find to grow revenue was by buying firms like Lotus.
He turned what was a fantastic company to work for into a an ordinary one.
He writes in the book that he transformed the company into a firm where the most able got the most rewards.
In fact he converted it into a firm where the most aggressive individuals, like Gerstner, win through.
He destroyed IBM's employee benefits schemes across the world, claiming they were unaffordable at the time of IBM's darkest hour.
Perhaps they were at that time, but Gerstner's greatest sin was that he never returned any of the benefits to the employees when business improved, except through a silly bonus scheme that in my experience never motivated anyone.
The result is that IBM has become a company that people still want to have on their CV, but those who join in mid-career almost never stay more than two years.
Gerstner groped around and never really found the right idea for growing revenue.
His shift to services meant that he took his eye off all the products in the IBM catalogue, and IBM architectures have become an irrelevance in a world now dominated by Windows, TCP/IP, Linux, Solaris and Oracle.
He used the AS/400 as a cash cow when a very aggressive pricing scheme could have seen the system create the market that Windows NT instead built.
Gerstner has said the Internet saved IBM, but frankly it did a lot more for rivals like Microsoft and Sun.
There's a part of me that makes me think this book is one huge, ironic joke -- the guy only pretends to be unaware of the impact of his decisions on others.
He boasts about a turnaround that never was and advocates management behaviour that no-one should accept.
That would be fine if it were confined to the pages of this book.
But unfortunately the impact of Gerstner is written large across the lives of many, many individuals who crossed his path, both inside and outside IBM.
The blight cast over their lives means that, when they get the chance, they usually don't recommend IBM products.
Gerstner just doesn't understand that.
These pages on amazon ought to be required reading for anyone foolish enough to think they want a career in IBM.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779011</id>
	<title>Re:First post???</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255808400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes you got FP. It looks like the crook will get downsized by the Feds and unsized by his new boyfriend.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes you got FP .
It looks like the crook will get downsized by the Feds and unsized by his new boyfriend .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes you got FP.
It looks like the crook will get downsized by the Feds and unsized by his new boyfriend.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29778963</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29796377</id>
	<title>Alliance@IBM needs salt</title>
	<author>frostycellnex</author>
	<datestamp>1255976460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As an employee of IBM, I'd take the comments from Alliance@IBM with a grain of salt.  Alliance@IBM is a group of employees whose agenda it has been to start an IT workers' union.  The people Mr. Conrad is likely to be talking to are therefore probably pre-disposed to being very anti-upper management.  Mr. Moffat's M.O. is as an axe man, and a pool of employees who's reactionary response is to oppose any kind of reduction in workforce, no matter how necessary from a business standpoint, is hardly likely to have an unbiased opinion as to the sentiment of Poughkeepsie's general population towards Mr. Moffat.  Alliance@IBM doesn't even represent a majority of IBM employees, much less the population of people from which a jury would be built.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As an employee of IBM , I 'd take the comments from Alliance @ IBM with a grain of salt .
Alliance @ IBM is a group of employees whose agenda it has been to start an IT workers ' union .
The people Mr. Conrad is likely to be talking to are therefore probably pre-disposed to being very anti-upper management .
Mr. Moffat 's M.O .
is as an axe man , and a pool of employees who 's reactionary response is to oppose any kind of reduction in workforce , no matter how necessary from a business standpoint , is hardly likely to have an unbiased opinion as to the sentiment of Poughkeepsie 's general population towards Mr. Moffat. Alliance @ IBM does n't even represent a majority of IBM employees , much less the population of people from which a jury would be built .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As an employee of IBM, I'd take the comments from Alliance@IBM with a grain of salt.
Alliance@IBM is a group of employees whose agenda it has been to start an IT workers' union.
The people Mr. Conrad is likely to be talking to are therefore probably pre-disposed to being very anti-upper management.
Mr. Moffat's M.O.
is as an axe man, and a pool of employees who's reactionary response is to oppose any kind of reduction in workforce, no matter how necessary from a business standpoint, is hardly likely to have an unbiased opinion as to the sentiment of Poughkeepsie's general population towards Mr. Moffat.  Alliance@IBM doesn't even represent a majority of IBM employees, much less the population of people from which a jury would be built.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779449</id>
	<title>The original Dsigner of AirWolf?</title>
	<author>shareme</author>
	<datestamp>1255812480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>What the origninal  designer of AirWolf arrested?

Wjoops wrong Moffat..</htmltext>
<tokenext>What the origninal designer of AirWolf arrested ?
Wjoops wrong Moffat. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What the origninal  designer of AirWolf arrested?
Wjoops wrong Moffat..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779515</id>
	<title>Re:RIP IBM Thinkpad...</title>
	<author>Teckla</author>
	<datestamp>1255770060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The quality hasn't changed because it's the same machine.</p></div><p>Sorry, but...no, it's not.</p><p>My company has been using ThinkPads exclusively for years, and once IBM sold the unit to Lenovo, the quality of the ThinkPad line has gone down, in my opinion.</p><p>I think IBM demanded a higher of level quality than Lenovo demands of itself. My experience seems to indicate there is now a higher failure rate, as well as evidence of cutting corners.</p><p>R.I.P. ThinkPad</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The quality has n't changed because it 's the same machine.Sorry , but...no , it 's not.My company has been using ThinkPads exclusively for years , and once IBM sold the unit to Lenovo , the quality of the ThinkPad line has gone down , in my opinion.I think IBM demanded a higher of level quality than Lenovo demands of itself .
My experience seems to indicate there is now a higher failure rate , as well as evidence of cutting corners.R.I.P .
ThinkPad</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The quality hasn't changed because it's the same machine.Sorry, but...no, it's not.My company has been using ThinkPads exclusively for years, and once IBM sold the unit to Lenovo, the quality of the ThinkPad line has gone down, in my opinion.I think IBM demanded a higher of level quality than Lenovo demands of itself.
My experience seems to indicate there is now a higher failure rate, as well as evidence of cutting corners.R.I.P.
ThinkPad
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779137</id>
	<title>tidying up</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1255809480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bet its a simple matter of removing evidence from public view during an active investigation, and it still exists for when its all hauled into court.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet its a simple matter of removing evidence from public view during an active investigation , and it still exists for when its all hauled into court .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet its a simple matter of removing evidence from public view during an active investigation, and it still exists for when its all hauled into court.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779537</id>
	<title>No surprise</title>
	<author>sjames</author>
	<datestamp>1255770240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not the least bit surprising. Who would want to remind the world that they heaped praise on someone who turned out to be a felonious swindler and a cheat (and probable psychopath)?</p><p>The PR people fear that it reflects very poorly of the judgment of the others. I wouldn't be too hard on them though, psychopaths smart enough to not go to jail in their youth are notoriously hard to spot in a crowd.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not the least bit surprising .
Who would want to remind the world that they heaped praise on someone who turned out to be a felonious swindler and a cheat ( and probable psychopath ) ? The PR people fear that it reflects very poorly of the judgment of the others .
I would n't be too hard on them though , psychopaths smart enough to not go to jail in their youth are notoriously hard to spot in a crowd .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not the least bit surprising.
Who would want to remind the world that they heaped praise on someone who turned out to be a felonious swindler and a cheat (and probable psychopath)?The PR people fear that it reflects very poorly of the judgment of the others.
I wouldn't be too hard on them though, psychopaths smart enough to not go to jail in their youth are notoriously hard to spot in a crowd.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779277</id>
	<title>He made a schoolboy error</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255810860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Being in a position to do large deals, you always get people offering "incentives". ie cash in envelopes to sign a deal. Brown envelopes and all that. However I spoke to my boss at my old place ie before I became management and asked his advice.</p><p>Basically, its a case of dont, ever! Basically, if a company gets audited, they will be looking for a scapegoat. Guess who gets that joy. Not only that, but it's your reputation also. In our game, reputation is worth its weight in gold!</p><p>The way to do it, is to accept offers of kit on long term loan, that they dont want back. Im not saying I take it and sign a deal. Its more a case of it they want to give me freebies to test, I dont mind. ie the odd high spec laptop here, the odd day out there. They also understand what they give me is no strings and I treat it as such.</p><p>At the end of the day price and quality are deciding factors.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Being in a position to do large deals , you always get people offering " incentives " .
ie cash in envelopes to sign a deal .
Brown envelopes and all that .
However I spoke to my boss at my old place ie before I became management and asked his advice.Basically , its a case of dont , ever !
Basically , if a company gets audited , they will be looking for a scapegoat .
Guess who gets that joy .
Not only that , but it 's your reputation also .
In our game , reputation is worth its weight in gold ! The way to do it , is to accept offers of kit on long term loan , that they dont want back .
Im not saying I take it and sign a deal .
Its more a case of it they want to give me freebies to test , I dont mind .
ie the odd high spec laptop here , the odd day out there .
They also understand what they give me is no strings and I treat it as such.At the end of the day price and quality are deciding factors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Being in a position to do large deals, you always get people offering "incentives".
ie cash in envelopes to sign a deal.
Brown envelopes and all that.
However I spoke to my boss at my old place ie before I became management and asked his advice.Basically, its a case of dont, ever!
Basically, if a company gets audited, they will be looking for a scapegoat.
Guess who gets that joy.
Not only that, but it's your reputation also.
In our game, reputation is worth its weight in gold!The way to do it, is to accept offers of kit on long term loan, that they dont want back.
Im not saying I take it and sign a deal.
Its more a case of it they want to give me freebies to test, I dont mind.
ie the odd high spec laptop here, the odd day out there.
They also understand what they give me is no strings and I treat it as such.At the end of the day price and quality are deciding factors.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29784069</id>
	<title>Re:IBM has more scrubbing to do...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255879620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A B.S. degree in Economics, huh?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A B.S .
degree in Economics , huh ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A B.S.
degree in Economics, huh?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779877</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29781805</id>
	<title>Re:No surprise</title>
	<author>demachina</author>
	<datestamp>1255798380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think labeling these people as pschopathic is misguided at best. I'm pretty sure insider trading is an epidemic now and I wager a LOT of people are doing the same thing, in fact its behavior that is probably the new normal in the morally bankrupt world we live in.  These guys were just doing it on a wholesale level and were unlucky that someone ratted them out.  I wonder how many people are cringing right now because they know they've done the same thing and worry a little they might get caught too.  I wager a week from now all the insider cheats will be back at it because the money is too good and too easy.</p><p>It pretty tough to care about a few million made on illegal stock tips when places like Goldman Sachs are looting billions out of the pockets of all of us and getting away with it year after year.  They ran a racket that nearly destroyed the global economy, pushed millions in to unemployment, foreclosure and homelessness and we punished them by giving them a bank charter, FDIC insurance, nearly unlimited money at zero percent.  They are making a billion a month, and are going to pay record bonuses to the same execs who steamrolled our economy. When your whole economy has turned in to a crime scene how do you single out these people to jail.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think labeling these people as pschopathic is misguided at best .
I 'm pretty sure insider trading is an epidemic now and I wager a LOT of people are doing the same thing , in fact its behavior that is probably the new normal in the morally bankrupt world we live in .
These guys were just doing it on a wholesale level and were unlucky that someone ratted them out .
I wonder how many people are cringing right now because they know they 've done the same thing and worry a little they might get caught too .
I wager a week from now all the insider cheats will be back at it because the money is too good and too easy.It pretty tough to care about a few million made on illegal stock tips when places like Goldman Sachs are looting billions out of the pockets of all of us and getting away with it year after year .
They ran a racket that nearly destroyed the global economy , pushed millions in to unemployment , foreclosure and homelessness and we punished them by giving them a bank charter , FDIC insurance , nearly unlimited money at zero percent .
They are making a billion a month , and are going to pay record bonuses to the same execs who steamrolled our economy .
When your whole economy has turned in to a crime scene how do you single out these people to jail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think labeling these people as pschopathic is misguided at best.
I'm pretty sure insider trading is an epidemic now and I wager a LOT of people are doing the same thing, in fact its behavior that is probably the new normal in the morally bankrupt world we live in.
These guys were just doing it on a wholesale level and were unlucky that someone ratted them out.
I wonder how many people are cringing right now because they know they've done the same thing and worry a little they might get caught too.
I wager a week from now all the insider cheats will be back at it because the money is too good and too easy.It pretty tough to care about a few million made on illegal stock tips when places like Goldman Sachs are looting billions out of the pockets of all of us and getting away with it year after year.
They ran a racket that nearly destroyed the global economy, pushed millions in to unemployment, foreclosure and homelessness and we punished them by giving them a bank charter, FDIC insurance, nearly unlimited money at zero percent.
They are making a billion a month, and are going to pay record bonuses to the same execs who steamrolled our economy.
When your whole economy has turned in to a crime scene how do you single out these people to jail.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29781027</id>
	<title>Re:RIP IBM Thinkpad...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255785780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This being the internet, it should be "Crimes against e-quality."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This being the internet , it should be " Crimes against e-quality .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This being the internet, it should be "Crimes against e-quality.
"</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779433</id>
	<title>Common PR tactic.</title>
	<author>slasho81</author>
	<datestamp>1255812360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hiding an embarrassing employee's web presence is a common PR tactic used to delay journalists by making them look for facts about the employee longer. The lazy journalists and bloggers who just want to publish now will have fewer facts and skimpier stories which translates to less interesting stories and less media attention.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hiding an embarrassing employee 's web presence is a common PR tactic used to delay journalists by making them look for facts about the employee longer .
The lazy journalists and bloggers who just want to publish now will have fewer facts and skimpier stories which translates to less interesting stories and less media attention .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hiding an embarrassing employee's web presence is a common PR tactic used to delay journalists by making them look for facts about the employee longer.
The lazy journalists and bloggers who just want to publish now will have fewer facts and skimpier stories which translates to less interesting stories and less media attention.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779169</id>
	<title>"Workforce rebalance"</title>
	<author>blind biker</author>
	<datestamp>1255809780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anytime such grandiose outsourcing and/or workforce cutting schemes are created, you can suspect that a psychopathic suit just got an idea how to look busy and useful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anytime such grandiose outsourcing and/or workforce cutting schemes are created , you can suspect that a psychopathic suit just got an idea how to look busy and useful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anytime such grandiose outsourcing and/or workforce cutting schemes are created, you can suspect that a psychopathic suit just got an idea how to look busy and useful.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779949</id>
	<title>Re:Open source can be outsourcing too</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255774500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's all part of the free software model.  According to Stallman, those laid off highly skilled engineers should now be selling support services helping others install Linux, configure Linux config files, and so on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's all part of the free software model .
According to Stallman , those laid off highly skilled engineers should now be selling support services helping others install Linux , configure Linux config files , and so on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's all part of the free software model.
According to Stallman, those laid off highly skilled engineers should now be selling support services helping others install Linux, configure Linux config files, and so on.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29781971</id>
	<title>Re:IANAL, let alone a Fed...</title>
	<author>jawahar</author>
	<datestamp>1255801320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I believe SEC must Regulate the Market Capitalization of all Big Companies to twice their Quarterly Revenue to induce real competition in the economy. For e.g. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fed" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fed</a> [wikipedia.org] does regulate Reserve Requirements &amp; Interest Rates to promote sustainable economic growth.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe SEC must Regulate the Market Capitalization of all Big Companies to twice their Quarterly Revenue to induce real competition in the economy .
For e.g .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fed [ wikipedia.org ] does regulate Reserve Requirements &amp; Interest Rates to promote sustainable economic growth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe SEC must Regulate the Market Capitalization of all Big Companies to twice their Quarterly Revenue to induce real competition in the economy.
For e.g.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fed [wikipedia.org] does regulate Reserve Requirements &amp; Interest Rates to promote sustainable economic growth.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29781993</id>
	<title>i think the word psychopath is overused</title>
	<author>circletimessquare</author>
	<datestamp>1255802160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>all of us have an ability to turn off empathy. it does not take a genuine psychological abnormality to do something evil for the sake of greed or other base instinct. it also begins to separate the man from the crime in terms of responsibility: if he's a psychopath, it removes culpability by explaining away some of what someone does wrong as a simple psychological defect, something beyond their control</p><p>no, a lot of really heinous crimes in this world are not done by psychopaths. and that actually makes the crimes far worse. we use the word "psychopath" as a quick way to explain away their crimes, of drawing distance between the criminal and us. which is probably necessary for us to do. for to consider that someone like you and me can do vile things makes us feel uncomfortable about ourselves. our potential to do horrible wrong. better to do the quick and easy thing and label the person "psychopath" rather than meditate on the real and ruinous road that takes a psychologically normal person and winds up with them committing evil</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>all of us have an ability to turn off empathy .
it does not take a genuine psychological abnormality to do something evil for the sake of greed or other base instinct .
it also begins to separate the man from the crime in terms of responsibility : if he 's a psychopath , it removes culpability by explaining away some of what someone does wrong as a simple psychological defect , something beyond their controlno , a lot of really heinous crimes in this world are not done by psychopaths .
and that actually makes the crimes far worse .
we use the word " psychopath " as a quick way to explain away their crimes , of drawing distance between the criminal and us .
which is probably necessary for us to do .
for to consider that someone like you and me can do vile things makes us feel uncomfortable about ourselves .
our potential to do horrible wrong .
better to do the quick and easy thing and label the person " psychopath " rather than meditate on the real and ruinous road that takes a psychologically normal person and winds up with them committing evil</tokentext>
<sentencetext>all of us have an ability to turn off empathy.
it does not take a genuine psychological abnormality to do something evil for the sake of greed or other base instinct.
it also begins to separate the man from the crime in terms of responsibility: if he's a psychopath, it removes culpability by explaining away some of what someone does wrong as a simple psychological defect, something beyond their controlno, a lot of really heinous crimes in this world are not done by psychopaths.
and that actually makes the crimes far worse.
we use the word "psychopath" as a quick way to explain away their crimes, of drawing distance between the criminal and us.
which is probably necessary for us to do.
for to consider that someone like you and me can do vile things makes us feel uncomfortable about ourselves.
our potential to do horrible wrong.
better to do the quick and easy thing and label the person "psychopath" rather than meditate on the real and ruinous road that takes a psychologically normal person and winds up with them committing evil</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29778963</id>
	<title>First post???</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255808040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sounds like he wasn't liked at the company.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds like he was n't liked at the company .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds like he wasn't liked at the company.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779325</id>
	<title>Open source can be outsourcing too</title>
	<author>ClosedSource</author>
	<datestamp>1255811280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Surely some jobs were lost when IBM put more emphasis on Linux and thus didn't require as many workers to support it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Surely some jobs were lost when IBM put more emphasis on Linux and thus did n't require as many workers to support it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Surely some jobs were lost when IBM put more emphasis on Linux and thus didn't require as many workers to support it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779111</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779111</id>
	<title>Re:First post???</title>
	<author>dhall</author>
	<datestamp>1255809300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He was the man considered responsible for some of the largest cuts within IBM's STG (Systems &amp; Technology Group).  A lot of programs were cut locally in order to add to the globalization effort, which is just the politically correct way of saying off-shoring.  He was considered the standard bearer to what a lot of workers felt was the increased feeling of greed among the current IBM executives.  A lot of good programs and people were axed during his tenure which added to the short term bottom line but have shown in the last 4 years to hurt their long term objectives.  It's difficult when you ask your top performers to do more for less, until they either leave or you cast them off.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He was the man considered responsible for some of the largest cuts within IBM 's STG ( Systems &amp; Technology Group ) .
A lot of programs were cut locally in order to add to the globalization effort , which is just the politically correct way of saying off-shoring .
He was considered the standard bearer to what a lot of workers felt was the increased feeling of greed among the current IBM executives .
A lot of good programs and people were axed during his tenure which added to the short term bottom line but have shown in the last 4 years to hurt their long term objectives .
It 's difficult when you ask your top performers to do more for less , until they either leave or you cast them off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He was the man considered responsible for some of the largest cuts within IBM's STG (Systems &amp; Technology Group).
A lot of programs were cut locally in order to add to the globalization effort, which is just the politically correct way of saying off-shoring.
He was considered the standard bearer to what a lot of workers felt was the increased feeling of greed among the current IBM executives.
A lot of good programs and people were axed during his tenure which added to the short term bottom line but have shown in the last 4 years to hurt their long term objectives.
It's difficult when you ask your top performers to do more for less, until they either leave or you cast them off.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29778963</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29780865</id>
	<title>Re:First post???</title>
	<author>HanzoSpam</author>
	<datestamp>1255783500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And not only are they good for off-shoring, they're good for doing it <a href="http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090616/BIZ/906160315" title="recordonline.com">after taking the tax-payer's money to preserve them</a> [recordonline.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And not only are they good for off-shoring , they 're good for doing it after taking the tax-payer 's money to preserve them [ recordonline.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And not only are they good for off-shoring, they're good for doing it after taking the tax-payer's money to preserve them [recordonline.com].</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779111</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779115</id>
	<title>Now if we just got the same thing for Ballmer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255809300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We'd be all set!</p><p>MSFT: Steve who?  Never heard of the guy.</p><p>And nothing of value was lost.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 'd be all set ! MSFT : Steve who ?
Never heard of the guy.And nothing of value was lost .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We'd be all set!MSFT: Steve who?
Never heard of the guy.And nothing of value was lost.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779479</id>
	<title>Re:Funny enough</title>
	<author>EvilIdler</author>
	<datestamp>1255812780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yep, the bio has been there every time I've tried. I'm refreshing the page, but it just won't go away! Was this just a glitch in whatever system IBM runs?</p><p>*refreshes page again*</p><p>Nope, still not gone. Tried it on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.nyud.net:8080 to be sure<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep , the bio has been there every time I 've tried .
I 'm refreshing the page , but it just wo n't go away !
Was this just a glitch in whatever system IBM runs ?
* refreshes page again * Nope , still not gone .
Tried it on .nyud.net : 8080 to be sure : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep, the bio has been there every time I've tried.
I'm refreshing the page, but it just won't go away!
Was this just a glitch in whatever system IBM runs?
*refreshes page again*Nope, still not gone.
Tried it on .nyud.net:8080 to be sure :)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779019</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779465</id>
	<title>Re:RIP IBM Thinkpad...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255812660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Lenovo was the manufacturer that IBM outsourced/offshored the manufacturing of their laptops and PCs to  for quite a few years. What was purchased was the PC business and the names. <p>The quality hasn't changed because it's the same machine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lenovo was the manufacturer that IBM outsourced/offshored the manufacturing of their laptops and PCs to for quite a few years .
What was purchased was the PC business and the names .
The quality has n't changed because it 's the same machine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lenovo was the manufacturer that IBM outsourced/offshored the manufacturing of their laptops and PCs to  for quite a few years.
What was purchased was the PC business and the names.
The quality hasn't changed because it's the same machine.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779099</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779077</id>
	<title>With Friends Like These ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255808880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> 'I have talked to a few IBMers today, and there seems to be a lot of cheering in the halls of IBM over his arrest,' said Lee Conrad of Alliance@IBM."</p> </div><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Who Needs Enemies ?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>'I have talked to a few IBMers today , and there seems to be a lot of cheering in the halls of IBM over his arrest, ' said Lee Conrad of Alliance @ IBM .
" ... Who Needs Enemies ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> 'I have talked to a few IBMers today, and there seems to be a lot of cheering in the halls of IBM over his arrest,' said Lee Conrad of Alliance@IBM.
"  ... Who Needs Enemies ?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779455</id>
	<title>IBM'ers, be proud and tell your friends why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255812600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The funny thing is, at IBM right now there's this campaign going on to "TELL" of all your great experiences and why IBM is such a great company to work for. They're giving out small boxes of mints and such, to help you speak you know (rolleyes). Mostly, my colleagues and I have been looking at one another, going "the kind of stories we'd be telling would NOT benefit IBM. Personally (and I believe my colleagues share this opinion), I have just enough loyalty to NOT go telling all my stories.</p><p>Posted Anonymously just in case this turns ugly. In any event, the mints are tasty enough.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The funny thing is , at IBM right now there 's this campaign going on to " TELL " of all your great experiences and why IBM is such a great company to work for .
They 're giving out small boxes of mints and such , to help you speak you know ( rolleyes ) .
Mostly , my colleagues and I have been looking at one another , going " the kind of stories we 'd be telling would NOT benefit IBM .
Personally ( and I believe my colleagues share this opinion ) , I have just enough loyalty to NOT go telling all my stories.Posted Anonymously just in case this turns ugly .
In any event , the mints are tasty enough .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The funny thing is, at IBM right now there's this campaign going on to "TELL" of all your great experiences and why IBM is such a great company to work for.
They're giving out small boxes of mints and such, to help you speak you know (rolleyes).
Mostly, my colleagues and I have been looking at one another, going "the kind of stories we'd be telling would NOT benefit IBM.
Personally (and I believe my colleagues share this opinion), I have just enough loyalty to NOT go telling all my stories.Posted Anonymously just in case this turns ugly.
In any event, the mints are tasty enough.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29781123</id>
	<title>Cringely: Moffat Guilty or Stupid?</title>
	<author>theodp</author>
	<datestamp>1255787100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.cringely.com/2009/10/no-joy-in-mudville/" title="cringely.com">No Joy in Mudville</a> [cringely.com]: "What does it say, then, when the architect of LEAN is arrested for alleged insider trading?...Moffat is guilty or he's stupid, neither of which says much for IBM."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No Joy in Mudville [ cringely.com ] : " What does it say , then , when the architect of LEAN is arrested for alleged insider trading ? ...Moffat is guilty or he 's stupid , neither of which says much for IBM .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No Joy in Mudville [cringely.com]: "What does it say, then, when the architect of LEAN is arrested for alleged insider trading?...Moffat is guilty or he's stupid, neither of which says much for IBM.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29782103</id>
	<title>Re:Not accessible by you does not equal destroyed</title>
	<author>hedwards</author>
	<datestamp>1255804560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The SEC must really suck if IBM was displaying evidence of wrong doing in a publicly accessible website designed to direct random visitors to read.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The SEC must really suck if IBM was displaying evidence of wrong doing in a publicly accessible website designed to direct random visitors to read .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The SEC must really suck if IBM was displaying evidence of wrong doing in a publicly accessible website designed to direct random visitors to read.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779863</id>
	<title>The test will be IBM's Data Retention and Phones</title>
	<author>turtleshadow</author>
	<datestamp>1255773660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>IBM may be able to as a legal maneuver remove all the Bios and promos made by this executive. However IBM's data retention and phone system logging is going to be hotly tested. Not much is done in IBM without some tracking system. Most the company phones have logs, all the emails are archived/retention for a few years. I think even the old Sametimes messages were also logged once long ago. It sounds like the US Justice Dept will have wiretaps as the big evidence.</p><p>Unfortunately IBM's polices on email retention may put at jeopardy the cache. I think it was 3-5 years worth. IBM learned not to keep a lot of communications after problems with anti-trust lawsuits.  Law enforcement may face a mess if they need to go back into the mainframe system because only a few persons know that system outside IBM and internally that generation was being wiped out.</p><p>I will laugh out loud if IBM drags its feet in producing all the documents when this hits the courts as this is what it sells to customers at a high premium. IBM's legal legions are 2nd to none for litigation and maneuvering and the do not fear the US gov.</p><p>Anyhow it is trival as I think this guy got caught with his hand in the cookie jar when the US gov was fishing for bigger fish such as <a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/raj-rajaratnam-funded-sri-lankan-terror-group-2009-10" title="businessinsider.com" rel="nofollow">hedgefund managers who are suspected of funding terrorists.</a> [businessinsider.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IBM may be able to as a legal maneuver remove all the Bios and promos made by this executive .
However IBM 's data retention and phone system logging is going to be hotly tested .
Not much is done in IBM without some tracking system .
Most the company phones have logs , all the emails are archived/retention for a few years .
I think even the old Sametimes messages were also logged once long ago .
It sounds like the US Justice Dept will have wiretaps as the big evidence.Unfortunately IBM 's polices on email retention may put at jeopardy the cache .
I think it was 3-5 years worth .
IBM learned not to keep a lot of communications after problems with anti-trust lawsuits .
Law enforcement may face a mess if they need to go back into the mainframe system because only a few persons know that system outside IBM and internally that generation was being wiped out.I will laugh out loud if IBM drags its feet in producing all the documents when this hits the courts as this is what it sells to customers at a high premium .
IBM 's legal legions are 2nd to none for litigation and maneuvering and the do not fear the US gov.Anyhow it is trival as I think this guy got caught with his hand in the cookie jar when the US gov was fishing for bigger fish such as hedgefund managers who are suspected of funding terrorists .
[ businessinsider.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IBM may be able to as a legal maneuver remove all the Bios and promos made by this executive.
However IBM's data retention and phone system logging is going to be hotly tested.
Not much is done in IBM without some tracking system.
Most the company phones have logs, all the emails are archived/retention for a few years.
I think even the old Sametimes messages were also logged once long ago.
It sounds like the US Justice Dept will have wiretaps as the big evidence.Unfortunately IBM's polices on email retention may put at jeopardy the cache.
I think it was 3-5 years worth.
IBM learned not to keep a lot of communications after problems with anti-trust lawsuits.
Law enforcement may face a mess if they need to go back into the mainframe system because only a few persons know that system outside IBM and internally that generation was being wiped out.I will laugh out loud if IBM drags its feet in producing all the documents when this hits the courts as this is what it sells to customers at a high premium.
IBM's legal legions are 2nd to none for litigation and maneuvering and the do not fear the US gov.Anyhow it is trival as I think this guy got caught with his hand in the cookie jar when the US gov was fishing for bigger fish such as hedgefund managers who are suspected of funding terrorists.
[businessinsider.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29796329</id>
	<title>Re:IBM has more scrubbing to do...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255976340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On Monday:</p><p>Biography you tried to access does not exist.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On Monday : Biography you tried to access does not exist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On Monday:Biography you tried to access does not exist.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779877</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779999</id>
	<title>Time Was...</title>
	<author>Greyfox</author>
	<datestamp>1255774980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>IBM used to boast during the new employee orientation that IBM "Put the employees first, the customers second and the shareholders last." Time was people would network throughout the company and someone would be happy to help out if someone from another department needed help to move a project forward. Time was we believed we could do anything and our company wouldn't fuck us over.
<p>
Too bad there's not a company like that anymore...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IBM used to boast during the new employee orientation that IBM " Put the employees first , the customers second and the shareholders last .
" Time was people would network throughout the company and someone would be happy to help out if someone from another department needed help to move a project forward .
Time was we believed we could do anything and our company would n't fuck us over .
Too bad there 's not a company like that anymore.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IBM used to boast during the new employee orientation that IBM "Put the employees first, the customers second and the shareholders last.
" Time was people would network throughout the company and someone would be happy to help out if someone from another department needed help to move a project forward.
Time was we believed we could do anything and our company wouldn't fuck us over.
Too bad there's not a company like that anymore...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29781933</id>
	<title>Re:Time Was...</title>
	<author>Dr Caleb</author>
	<datestamp>1255800420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Given recent directives in ITSA, we spend more time doing paperwork for IBM than actually servicing our customer.  We are even forbidden from accumulating overtime.  40 hour work weeks, no exceptions!</p><p>I wonder if that's for the customer, IBM, or the shareholder?  In my mind, not servicing the customer isn't good for anyone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Given recent directives in ITSA , we spend more time doing paperwork for IBM than actually servicing our customer .
We are even forbidden from accumulating overtime .
40 hour work weeks , no exceptions ! I wonder if that 's for the customer , IBM , or the shareholder ?
In my mind , not servicing the customer is n't good for anyone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given recent directives in ITSA, we spend more time doing paperwork for IBM than actually servicing our customer.
We are even forbidden from accumulating overtime.
40 hour work weeks, no exceptions!I wonder if that's for the customer, IBM, or the shareholder?
In my mind, not servicing the customer isn't good for anyone.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779445</id>
	<title>This made my day.....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255812480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Worked for 23+ years at IBM Greenock Personal Systems Manufacturing, then they sold us off to Sanmina - SCI who closed us down less than 2 years later. Always remember Moffat's speech to those being jetissoned about how we were all like his children and how you have to let go of your children if they are to grow and realise their true potential.

Patronising c**t..... More like hiring Jeffrey Dahmer as a babysitter.

Am organising a reunion of my old department to celebrate.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Worked for 23 + years at IBM Greenock Personal Systems Manufacturing , then they sold us off to Sanmina - SCI who closed us down less than 2 years later .
Always remember Moffat 's speech to those being jetissoned about how we were all like his children and how you have to let go of your children if they are to grow and realise their true potential .
Patronising c * * t..... More like hiring Jeffrey Dahmer as a babysitter .
Am organising a reunion of my old department to celebrate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Worked for 23+ years at IBM Greenock Personal Systems Manufacturing, then they sold us off to Sanmina - SCI who closed us down less than 2 years later.
Always remember Moffat's speech to those being jetissoned about how we were all like his children and how you have to let go of your children if they are to grow and realise their true potential.
Patronising c**t..... More like hiring Jeffrey Dahmer as a babysitter.
Am organising a reunion of my old department to celebrate.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779675</id>
	<title>M.I.A as In ...</title>
	<author>dmomo</author>
	<datestamp>1255771680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All I wanna do is (BANG BANG BANG BANG!)<br>And (KKKAAAA CHING!)<br>And take your money</p><p>?!?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All I wan na do is ( BANG BANG BANG BANG !
) And ( KKKAAAA CHING !
) And take your money ? !
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All I wanna do is (BANG BANG BANG BANG!
)And (KKKAAAA CHING!
)And take your money?!
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29784251</id>
	<title>Re:Time Was...</title>
	<author>dgr73</author>
	<datestamp>1255881000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I remember the same time.. when I was learning the ropes on some new piece of software, I'd call anywhere on the planet and have a fellow IBMer help me. And when people called me for help, I'd drop everything (or if I was real busy, told 'em to call be back a little later) and help out a collegue. People didn't call unless they were really stuck, so you knew you were saving them a lot of trouble and in the end making their customer happier.
<p>
IBM also used to have a policy of paying the employees by their "worth" to the company. If you had good skills in hot areas and billed a lot, you'd get a raise or something. But after Palmisano took over (though the old timers say it started during the Gerstner era) that all changed. You were given the "Sorry, but there's a freeze on wages from EMEA" excuse. I left once I realized I'd hit a glass ceiling with wages. But a lot of guys stayed longer.. they were quite pissed off when they told their managers they were leaving and the reply was "Why? Is it the salaries? How much are they paying you? We'll pay the same!". This shows how naively some people trusted IBM to be fair to them, and that trust was earned back in the day during long and painstaking years of non-optimized profit. Now the trust is gone and IBM is no longer the "most desired workplace" it used to be around here.
</p><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>/rant</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember the same time.. when I was learning the ropes on some new piece of software , I 'd call anywhere on the planet and have a fellow IBMer help me .
And when people called me for help , I 'd drop everything ( or if I was real busy , told 'em to call be back a little later ) and help out a collegue .
People did n't call unless they were really stuck , so you knew you were saving them a lot of trouble and in the end making their customer happier .
IBM also used to have a policy of paying the employees by their " worth " to the company .
If you had good skills in hot areas and billed a lot , you 'd get a raise or something .
But after Palmisano took over ( though the old timers say it started during the Gerstner era ) that all changed .
You were given the " Sorry , but there 's a freeze on wages from EMEA " excuse .
I left once I realized I 'd hit a glass ceiling with wages .
But a lot of guys stayed longer.. they were quite pissed off when they told their managers they were leaving and the reply was " Why ?
Is it the salaries ?
How much are they paying you ?
We 'll pay the same ! " .
This shows how naively some people trusted IBM to be fair to them , and that trust was earned back in the day during long and painstaking years of non-optimized profit .
Now the trust is gone and IBM is no longer the " most desired workplace " it used to be around here .
/rant</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember the same time.. when I was learning the ropes on some new piece of software, I'd call anywhere on the planet and have a fellow IBMer help me.
And when people called me for help, I'd drop everything (or if I was real busy, told 'em to call be back a little later) and help out a collegue.
People didn't call unless they were really stuck, so you knew you were saving them a lot of trouble and in the end making their customer happier.
IBM also used to have a policy of paying the employees by their "worth" to the company.
If you had good skills in hot areas and billed a lot, you'd get a raise or something.
But after Palmisano took over (though the old timers say it started during the Gerstner era) that all changed.
You were given the "Sorry, but there's a freeze on wages from EMEA" excuse.
I left once I realized I'd hit a glass ceiling with wages.
But a lot of guys stayed longer.. they were quite pissed off when they told their managers they were leaving and the reply was "Why?
Is it the salaries?
How much are they paying you?
We'll pay the same!".
This shows how naively some people trusted IBM to be fair to them, and that trust was earned back in the day during long and painstaking years of non-optimized profit.
Now the trust is gone and IBM is no longer the "most desired workplace" it used to be around here.
/rant</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29790373</id>
	<title>The Ministry of Truth purged the files</title>
	<author>plopez</author>
	<datestamp>1255889940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And are going replace them with a heroic article about a manager named "Oglivy"who died in his cubicle giving his all for the company.</p><p>And if you don't get the reference, read "1984" by George Orwell.</p><p>Orwell had it right, just swap all references to the government with "the corporation".</p><p>Which is one reason I refuse to work for companies after they reach a certain size.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And are going replace them with a heroic article about a manager named " Oglivy " who died in his cubicle giving his all for the company.And if you do n't get the reference , read " 1984 " by George Orwell.Orwell had it right , just swap all references to the government with " the corporation " .Which is one reason I refuse to work for companies after they reach a certain size .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And are going replace them with a heroic article about a manager named "Oglivy"who died in his cubicle giving his all for the company.And if you don't get the reference, read "1984" by George Orwell.Orwell had it right, just swap all references to the government with "the corporation".Which is one reason I refuse to work for companies after they reach a certain size.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779099</id>
	<title>RIP IBM Thinkpad...</title>
	<author>brxndxn</author>
	<datestamp>1255809180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>IBM Thinkpad was by far the best laptop line.. Now, it's basically just another piece of crap laptop. Moffat deserves jail time just for this.. "Crimes against quality."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IBM Thinkpad was by far the best laptop line.. Now , it 's basically just another piece of crap laptop .
Moffat deserves jail time just for this.. " Crimes against quality .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IBM Thinkpad was by far the best laptop line.. Now, it's basically just another piece of crap laptop.
Moffat deserves jail time just for this.. "Crimes against quality.
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779051</id>
	<title>Bernie Madoff</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255808760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Before Madoff was arrested, a Google search for his name pointed to many pages at Yeshiva University, which he gave a lot of money to.  If you clicked on the Google cache, there were glowing profiles about him.  If you clicked on the actual pages, his name had been pulled out of all those pages almost as soon as he was arrested, because I was Googling all of this the day after he was arrested.  It's still all probably on <a href="http://www.archive.org/" title="archive.org">archive.org</a> [archive.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Before Madoff was arrested , a Google search for his name pointed to many pages at Yeshiva University , which he gave a lot of money to .
If you clicked on the Google cache , there were glowing profiles about him .
If you clicked on the actual pages , his name had been pulled out of all those pages almost as soon as he was arrested , because I was Googling all of this the day after he was arrested .
It 's still all probably on archive.org [ archive.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Before Madoff was arrested, a Google search for his name pointed to many pages at Yeshiva University, which he gave a lot of money to.
If you clicked on the Google cache, there were glowing profiles about him.
If you clicked on the actual pages, his name had been pulled out of all those pages almost as soon as he was arrested, because I was Googling all of this the day after he was arrested.
It's still all probably on archive.org [archive.org]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29778993</id>
	<title>Re:First post???</title>
	<author>linuxgurugamer</author>
	<datestamp>1255808280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Forgot to mentiion, that if you have the URL you can get the "missing" pages at archive.org</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Forgot to mentiion , that if you have the URL you can get the " missing " pages at archive.org</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Forgot to mentiion, that if you have the URL you can get the "missing" pages at archive.org</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779341</id>
	<title>Encryption</title>
	<author>andsens</author>
	<datestamp>1255811400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Makes you wonder why the hell they didn't encrypt their phone conversations...

I mean ffs, he worked at IBM, it's not like they didn't have access to that kind of technology.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Makes you wonder why the hell they did n't encrypt their phone conversations.. . I mean ffs , he worked at IBM , it 's not like they did n't have access to that kind of technology .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Makes you wonder why the hell they didn't encrypt their phone conversations...

I mean ffs, he worked at IBM, it's not like they didn't have access to that kind of technology.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29783191</id>
	<title>Re:As an ex-ibm'er from the Hudson Valley...</title>
	<author>hobohro</author>
	<datestamp>1255868700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I just read his BIO and all the divisions he has been head of no longer exist.............Thank you GREED!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I just read his BIO and all the divisions he has been head of no longer exist.............Thank you GREED !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just read his BIO and all the divisions he has been head of no longer exist.............Thank you GREED!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29779141</id>
	<title>Who Cares?   Why Is This On Slashdot??!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255809480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not exactly news that people or companies want to dissociate themselves from people charged with crimes.  Removing any connections with these people has been going on for years.</p><p>In any case, I don't know why this is even news on slashdot.  If this insider trading case didn't involve a tech company, would this still be here?  How is this is news for nerds??</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not exactly news that people or companies want to dissociate themselves from people charged with crimes .
Removing any connections with these people has been going on for years.In any case , I do n't know why this is even news on slashdot .
If this insider trading case did n't involve a tech company , would this still be here ?
How is this is news for nerds ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not exactly news that people or companies want to dissociate themselves from people charged with crimes.
Removing any connections with these people has been going on for years.In any case, I don't know why this is even news on slashdot.
If this insider trading case didn't involve a tech company, would this still be here?
How is this is news for nerds?
?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29786347</id>
	<title>Re:Open source can be outsourcing too</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255899420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Surely some jobs were lost when IBM put more emphasis on Linux and thus didn't require as many workers to support it.</p></div><p>You're kidding right!?  Working with outside groups is never easy, and IBM still has all of the those other operating systems.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Surely some jobs were lost when IBM put more emphasis on Linux and thus did n't require as many workers to support it.You 're kidding right ! ?
Working with outside groups is never easy , and IBM still has all of the those other operating systems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Surely some jobs were lost when IBM put more emphasis on Linux and thus didn't require as many workers to support it.You're kidding right!?
Working with outside groups is never easy, and IBM still has all of the those other operating systems.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29780941</id>
	<title>Re:RIP IBM Thinkpad...</title>
	<author>rtb61</author>
	<datestamp>1255784520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> It is really quite straight forward. When Lenovo purchased bought the thinkpad unit, they naturally enough in business terms, dumped that purchase price into that units debt structure. In order to start paying off that debt, which basically adds say around 5 to 10 percent (depending upon how quickly they want to reduce that debt) to every notebook sold. They simple cut corners and hope to trade on the prior reputation of quality, basically lie about the current quality and pretend it was the same as before in order to sustain higher profit margins. This is done for as long as possible, until sales start to suffer and then they either return to a higher quality to rebuild the image or drop the price. </p><p> Typical lie, cheat and steal, modern business marketing and sales tactics. Quality it doesn't have to be there as long as they can spend enough of PR=B$ marketing to convince you it is there when it is not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is really quite straight forward .
When Lenovo purchased bought the thinkpad unit , they naturally enough in business terms , dumped that purchase price into that units debt structure .
In order to start paying off that debt , which basically adds say around 5 to 10 percent ( depending upon how quickly they want to reduce that debt ) to every notebook sold .
They simple cut corners and hope to trade on the prior reputation of quality , basically lie about the current quality and pretend it was the same as before in order to sustain higher profit margins .
This is done for as long as possible , until sales start to suffer and then they either return to a higher quality to rebuild the image or drop the price .
Typical lie , cheat and steal , modern business marketing and sales tactics .
Quality it does n't have to be there as long as they can spend enough of PR = B $ marketing to convince you it is there when it is not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> It is really quite straight forward.
When Lenovo purchased bought the thinkpad unit, they naturally enough in business terms, dumped that purchase price into that units debt structure.
In order to start paying off that debt, which basically adds say around 5 to 10 percent (depending upon how quickly they want to reduce that debt) to every notebook sold.
They simple cut corners and hope to trade on the prior reputation of quality, basically lie about the current quality and pretend it was the same as before in order to sustain higher profit margins.
This is done for as long as possible, until sales start to suffer and then they either return to a higher quality to rebuild the image or drop the price.
Typical lie, cheat and steal, modern business marketing and sales tactics.
Quality it doesn't have to be there as long as they can spend enough of PR=B$ marketing to convince you it is there when it is not.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_17_1640237.29781557</id>
	<title>There would be a LOT more cheering,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255793760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>if Sam Palmisano  was also arrested, charged, tried, convicted and hung. The top of IBM have been horrible over the last 7 years.</htmltext>
<tokenext>if Sam Palmisano was also arrested , charged , tried , convicted and hung .
The top of IBM have been horrible over the last 7 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>if Sam Palmisano  was also arrested, charged, tried, convicted and hung.
The top of IBM have been horrible over the last 7 years.</sentencetext>
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