<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_16_2229233</id>
	<title>LHC Successfully Cools To 1.9K In Lead-Up To Restart</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1255692120000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Smelly Jeffrey writes <i>"The BBC is reporting that the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large\_Hadron\_Collider">LHC</a> has <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/2/hi/science/nature/8309875.stm">had all eight of its sectors cooled to 1.9 Kelvin</a>.  Their tagline is that it is now 'colder than deep space,' referring to the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic\_microwave\_background\_radiation">CMB</a>.  LHC engineers have spent nearly $40,000,000 USD on a new system to prevent the 'quench' condition that <a href="//science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/09/18/2328200&amp;tid=100">caused the LHC to be down</a> for warming, repairs, and re-cooling over the last year. The LHC is now cold enough to begin colliding particles in search of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs\_boson">Higgs Boson</a>.  High power collisions won't be started until late December, or perhaps early January.  However, a low-power beam through parts of the collider could be tested as early as next week!"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Smelly Jeffrey writes " The BBC is reporting that the LHC has had all eight of its sectors cooled to 1.9 Kelvin .
Their tagline is that it is now 'colder than deep space, ' referring to the CMB .
LHC engineers have spent nearly $ 40,000,000 USD on a new system to prevent the 'quench ' condition that caused the LHC to be down for warming , repairs , and re-cooling over the last year .
The LHC is now cold enough to begin colliding particles in search of the Higgs Boson .
High power collisions wo n't be started until late December , or perhaps early January .
However , a low-power beam through parts of the collider could be tested as early as next week !
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<sentencetext>Smelly Jeffrey writes "The BBC is reporting that the LHC has had all eight of its sectors cooled to 1.9 Kelvin.
Their tagline is that it is now 'colder than deep space,' referring to the CMB.
LHC engineers have spent nearly $40,000,000 USD on a new system to prevent the 'quench' condition that caused the LHC to be down for warming, repairs, and re-cooling over the last year.
The LHC is now cold enough to begin colliding particles in search of the Higgs Boson.
High power collisions won't be started until late December, or perhaps early January.
However, a low-power beam through parts of the collider could be tested as early as next week!
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29775231</id>
	<title>Re:40 MILLION USD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255707300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's really sad...cause it's true.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's really sad...cause it 's true .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's really sad...cause it's true.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774277</id>
	<title>Re:If it's not in operation...</title>
	<author>flydude18</author>
	<datestamp>1255696320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even the summary says that test runs will start soon. It's only the "high power collisions" that will wait until December, at which time the LHC will be fully operational.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even the summary says that test runs will start soon .
It 's only the " high power collisions " that will wait until December , at which time the LHC will be fully operational .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even the summary says that test runs will start soon.
It's only the "high power collisions" that will wait until December, at which time the LHC will be fully operational.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29776907</id>
	<title>Re:Better double-check...</title>
	<author>Chris Mattern</author>
	<datestamp>1255788420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey, that page is a fake!  He hard-coded the answer instead of actually checking!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , that page is a fake !
He hard-coded the answer instead of actually checking !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, that page is a fake!
He hard-coded the answer instead of actually checking!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774217</id>
	<title>If it's not in operation...</title>
	<author>Valdrax</author>
	<datestamp>1255695960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then why are they spending all the energy to cool the things two months before it's needed?</p><p>I don't mean this as a sarcastic comment.  I'm genuinely curious.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then why are they spending all the energy to cool the things two months before it 's needed ? I do n't mean this as a sarcastic comment .
I 'm genuinely curious .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then why are they spending all the energy to cool the things two months before it's needed?I don't mean this as a sarcastic comment.
I'm genuinely curious.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29776561</id>
	<title>Re:Prediction</title>
	<author>ScentCone</author>
	<datestamp>1255780620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>will cause the fabric of the Universe to reformat to its original state</i>
<br> <br>
Well, at least that will get rid of that incorrect apostrophe in your signature line. Whew!</htmltext>
<tokenext>will cause the fabric of the Universe to reformat to its original state Well , at least that will get rid of that incorrect apostrophe in your signature line .
Whew !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>will cause the fabric of the Universe to reformat to its original state
 
Well, at least that will get rid of that incorrect apostrophe in your signature line.
Whew!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29777405</id>
	<title>Re:40 MILLION USD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255792920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And even those areas of flagrant fraud and waste, while requiring a fix, won't come close to making up the national deficit.</p></div><p>I think you seriously underestimate the depth and vastness of the corruption that's infiltrated the US government. Everyone is out for themselves pilfering whatever they can get away with at the expense of the American People. It's the new American Way.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And even those areas of flagrant fraud and waste , while requiring a fix , wo n't come close to making up the national deficit.I think you seriously underestimate the depth and vastness of the corruption that 's infiltrated the US government .
Everyone is out for themselves pilfering whatever they can get away with at the expense of the American People .
It 's the new American Way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And even those areas of flagrant fraud and waste, while requiring a fix, won't come close to making up the national deficit.I think you seriously underestimate the depth and vastness of the corruption that's infiltrated the US government.
Everyone is out for themselves pilfering whatever they can get away with at the expense of the American People.
It's the new American Way.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774209</id>
	<title>Cool!</title>
	<author>Eric Smith</author>
	<datestamp>1255695840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Time for my friends and I to throw yet another end-of-the-world party!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Time for my friends and I to throw yet another end-of-the-world party !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Time for my friends and I to throw yet another end-of-the-world party!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29776467</id>
	<title>Re:40 MILLION USD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255778220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We have to hide the fact that aliens already gave us clean burning focus confined Fusion from Boron-hydrogen interactions. Compared to most large scale cover ups this is a piece of cake. We've cornered off enough of the richest Boron fields to last 10,00 years. <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1518007279479871760#" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1518007279479871760#</a> [google.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We have to hide the fact that aliens already gave us clean burning focus confined Fusion from Boron-hydrogen interactions .
Compared to most large scale cover ups this is a piece of cake .
We 've cornered off enough of the richest Boron fields to last 10,00 years .
http : //video.google.com/videoplay ? docid = -1518007279479871760 # [ google.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We have to hide the fact that aliens already gave us clean burning focus confined Fusion from Boron-hydrogen interactions.
Compared to most large scale cover ups this is a piece of cake.
We've cornered off enough of the richest Boron fields to last 10,00 years.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1518007279479871760# [google.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774267</id>
	<title>Re:If it's not in operation...</title>
	<author>StaticEngine</author>
	<datestamp>1255696320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If they do find the Higgs in January, they want to have a LOT of jello shots on hand.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If they do find the Higgs in January , they want to have a LOT of jello shots on hand .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they do find the Higgs in January, they want to have a LOT of jello shots on hand.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29776389</id>
	<title>Re:40 MILLION USD</title>
	<author>ShakaUVM</author>
	<datestamp>1255775460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>And even those areas of flagrant fraud and waste, while requiring a fix, won't come close to making up the national deficit. The bailout money, while significant this year, will barely be noticeable average over the decades between major bailouts, AND would presumably end up costing everyone far more money, if that money wasn't spent where and when it was needed.</i></p><p>Read this over:<br><a href="http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/102xx/doc10297/SummaryforWeb\_LTBO.pdf" title="cbo.gov">http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/102xx/doc10297/SummaryforWeb\_LTBO.pdf</a> [cbo.gov]</p><p>I know, I know, the CBO is part of the "vast right wing conspiracy". Probably tea-baggers, the lot of 'em, eh? EH?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And even those areas of flagrant fraud and waste , while requiring a fix , wo n't come close to making up the national deficit .
The bailout money , while significant this year , will barely be noticeable average over the decades between major bailouts , AND would presumably end up costing everyone far more money , if that money was n't spent where and when it was needed.Read this over : http : //www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/102xx/doc10297/SummaryforWeb \ _LTBO.pdf [ cbo.gov ] I know , I know , the CBO is part of the " vast right wing conspiracy " .
Probably tea-baggers , the lot of 'em , eh ?
EH ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And even those areas of flagrant fraud and waste, while requiring a fix, won't come close to making up the national deficit.
The bailout money, while significant this year, will barely be noticeable average over the decades between major bailouts, AND would presumably end up costing everyone far more money, if that money wasn't spent where and when it was needed.Read this over:http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/102xx/doc10297/SummaryforWeb\_LTBO.pdf [cbo.gov]I know, I know, the CBO is part of the "vast right wing conspiracy".
Probably tea-baggers, the lot of 'em, eh?
EH?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29775943</id>
	<title>Re:40 MILLION USD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255720980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How is it costing us LESS money to keep the banks afloat so that housing prices can stay artificially inflated, maintaining an artificial bubble at great expense? How is it costing us LESS to spend resources on WAR, which is not an investment but money tossed in to a blackhole never to be recovered? How is it costing us LESS to pay people NOT to do things? None of those things are an investment. They're all tossing money at buying ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and maintaining poorly run countries and businesses at great taxpayer expense.</p><p>Your rant set up a bunch of strawmen the GP post didn't even propose, then knocked them down leaving his original complaints <i>completely unharmed</i>. And you're calling his comments idiotic on their face? Then people mod you insightful? What the fuck? Is it opposite day around here?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How is it costing us LESS money to keep the banks afloat so that housing prices can stay artificially inflated , maintaining an artificial bubble at great expense ?
How is it costing us LESS to spend resources on WAR , which is not an investment but money tossed in to a blackhole never to be recovered ?
How is it costing us LESS to pay people NOT to do things ?
None of those things are an investment .
They 're all tossing money at buying ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and maintaining poorly run countries and businesses at great taxpayer expense.Your rant set up a bunch of strawmen the GP post did n't even propose , then knocked them down leaving his original complaints completely unharmed .
And you 're calling his comments idiotic on their face ?
Then people mod you insightful ?
What the fuck ?
Is it opposite day around here ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How is it costing us LESS money to keep the banks afloat so that housing prices can stay artificially inflated, maintaining an artificial bubble at great expense?
How is it costing us LESS to spend resources on WAR, which is not an investment but money tossed in to a blackhole never to be recovered?
How is it costing us LESS to pay people NOT to do things?
None of those things are an investment.
They're all tossing money at buying ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and maintaining poorly run countries and businesses at great taxpayer expense.Your rant set up a bunch of strawmen the GP post didn't even propose, then knocked them down leaving his original complaints completely unharmed.
And you're calling his comments idiotic on their face?
Then people mod you insightful?
What the fuck?
Is it opposite day around here?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29776233</id>
	<title>Re:40 MILLION USD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255770240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So how does the parent's post about governments doing good have anything to do with the GP's post about governments spending money on crap that has no real value other than to save a few thousand jobs in the very very short term only to further bankrupt a nation?</p><p>Wake up. That is not insightful, that's posting for the sake of posting.</p><p>Awesome my captcha is "provoke"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So how does the parent 's post about governments doing good have anything to do with the GP 's post about governments spending money on crap that has no real value other than to save a few thousand jobs in the very very short term only to further bankrupt a nation ? Wake up .
That is not insightful , that 's posting for the sake of posting.Awesome my captcha is " provoke "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So how does the parent's post about governments doing good have anything to do with the GP's post about governments spending money on crap that has no real value other than to save a few thousand jobs in the very very short term only to further bankrupt a nation?Wake up.
That is not insightful, that's posting for the sake of posting.Awesome my captcha is "provoke"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774243</id>
	<title>40 MILLION USD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255696140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When every government balance sheet is dripping red, why are we doing this again ?</p><p>Yes, I know, -1 Flamebait here I come.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When every government balance sheet is dripping red , why are we doing this again ? Yes , I know , -1 Flamebait here I come .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When every government balance sheet is dripping red, why are we doing this again ?Yes, I know, -1 Flamebait here I come.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774383</id>
	<title>Re:40 MILLION USD</title>
	<author>Tablizer</author>
	<datestamp>1255697340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>When every government balance sheet is dripping red, why are we doing this again ?</p></div></blockquote><p>Mini blackholes will suck up the deficits.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>When every government balance sheet is dripping red , why are we doing this again ? Mini blackholes will suck up the deficits .
     </tokentext>
<sentencetext>When every government balance sheet is dripping red, why are we doing this again ?Mini blackholes will suck up the deficits.
     
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774515</id>
	<title>it has been said before</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255698720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Prepare for unforeseen consequences</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Prepare for unforeseen consequences</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Prepare for unforeseen consequences</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774767</id>
	<title>Full power to the shields!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255700940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's hope the shields hold up against those pesky bosons from the future!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's hope the shields hold up against those pesky bosons from the future !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's hope the shields hold up against those pesky bosons from the future!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774935</id>
	<title>Re:Huge Waste of Taxpayer Dollars</title>
	<author>ledow</author>
	<datestamp>1255702920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because the food those people eat is produced using fertilizers, steel structures, engines based on petroleum combustion, transit networks, irrigation systems, computers and, ultimately, a market for the food - all of which come about because of technological advances (computers wouldn't work today if we didn't know about quantum mechanics - modern PC's are affected by quantum-scale artefacts), most of which were funded by military investment (Internet, etc.) or academic institutions, designed and implemented by people that went to university to study something other than fertilizer, using mathematics from previously theoretical subjects that they found could apply to modern physics, using even vaster ranges of technology to achieve their goals.</p><p>Did you know that the Moon missions visibly pushed scientific advancement for *decades* before and after they occurred?  Did you know that previous "waste of time", purely-theoretical, large-scale, cutting-edge technology now powers most of the world, the world's satellites, thus world communications, thus enable people to even *find* those people, let alone help them?</p><p>How about that computer you just posted this troll on?  Have you any idea how many man-hours it takes to build that?  Considering your attitude, I should take it back, leave those raw materials in the ground and give someone a job instead... that makes sense, no?  Or how about you *think* for a second about where those people are going to get their houses, pharmaceuticals, food, warmth, clothing, how they'll be found and helped and their progress tracked by your government to ensure they show up as a statistic at least?</p><p>Eighty years ago, the highest-level scientific research of splitting the "unsplittable" atom helped discover and then (50 years ago) harness the most destructive force held by man, culled from the annals of scientific research and weaponry, and now makes it power most of your country, provide pharmaceuticals, medical scanners and countless other innovations.  Now think what'll happen in another 80 years when the tech discovered, manufactured and researched based on the findings of the LHC hits your country.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because the food those people eat is produced using fertilizers , steel structures , engines based on petroleum combustion , transit networks , irrigation systems , computers and , ultimately , a market for the food - all of which come about because of technological advances ( computers would n't work today if we did n't know about quantum mechanics - modern PC 's are affected by quantum-scale artefacts ) , most of which were funded by military investment ( Internet , etc .
) or academic institutions , designed and implemented by people that went to university to study something other than fertilizer , using mathematics from previously theoretical subjects that they found could apply to modern physics , using even vaster ranges of technology to achieve their goals.Did you know that the Moon missions visibly pushed scientific advancement for * decades * before and after they occurred ?
Did you know that previous " waste of time " , purely-theoretical , large-scale , cutting-edge technology now powers most of the world , the world 's satellites , thus world communications , thus enable people to even * find * those people , let alone help them ? How about that computer you just posted this troll on ?
Have you any idea how many man-hours it takes to build that ?
Considering your attitude , I should take it back , leave those raw materials in the ground and give someone a job instead... that makes sense , no ?
Or how about you * think * for a second about where those people are going to get their houses , pharmaceuticals , food , warmth , clothing , how they 'll be found and helped and their progress tracked by your government to ensure they show up as a statistic at least ? Eighty years ago , the highest-level scientific research of splitting the " unsplittable " atom helped discover and then ( 50 years ago ) harness the most destructive force held by man , culled from the annals of scientific research and weaponry , and now makes it power most of your country , provide pharmaceuticals , medical scanners and countless other innovations .
Now think what 'll happen in another 80 years when the tech discovered , manufactured and researched based on the findings of the LHC hits your country .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because the food those people eat is produced using fertilizers, steel structures, engines based on petroleum combustion, transit networks, irrigation systems, computers and, ultimately, a market for the food - all of which come about because of technological advances (computers wouldn't work today if we didn't know about quantum mechanics - modern PC's are affected by quantum-scale artefacts), most of which were funded by military investment (Internet, etc.
) or academic institutions, designed and implemented by people that went to university to study something other than fertilizer, using mathematics from previously theoretical subjects that they found could apply to modern physics, using even vaster ranges of technology to achieve their goals.Did you know that the Moon missions visibly pushed scientific advancement for *decades* before and after they occurred?
Did you know that previous "waste of time", purely-theoretical, large-scale, cutting-edge technology now powers most of the world, the world's satellites, thus world communications, thus enable people to even *find* those people, let alone help them?How about that computer you just posted this troll on?
Have you any idea how many man-hours it takes to build that?
Considering your attitude, I should take it back, leave those raw materials in the ground and give someone a job instead... that makes sense, no?
Or how about you *think* for a second about where those people are going to get their houses, pharmaceuticals, food, warmth, clothing, how they'll be found and helped and their progress tracked by your government to ensure they show up as a statistic at least?Eighty years ago, the highest-level scientific research of splitting the "unsplittable" atom helped discover and then (50 years ago) harness the most destructive force held by man, culled from the annals of scientific research and weaponry, and now makes it power most of your country, provide pharmaceuticals, medical scanners and countless other innovations.
Now think what'll happen in another 80 years when the tech discovered, manufactured and researched based on the findings of the LHC hits your country.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774373</id>
	<title>Re:40 MILLION USD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255697220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>40 million is pretty cheap considering the US government doled out 600 billion in bailouts not long ago.  Billion is the new million.</htmltext>
<tokenext>40 million is pretty cheap considering the US government doled out 600 billion in bailouts not long ago .
Billion is the new million .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>40 million is pretty cheap considering the US government doled out 600 billion in bailouts not long ago.
Billion is the new million.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774243</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29779751</id>
	<title>Re:Seen from space</title>
	<author>janwedekind</author>
	<datestamp>1255772760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No. But you can see a black hole by the way it distorts the sky around its edges.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No .
But you can see a black hole by the way it distorts the sky around its edges .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No.
But you can see a black hole by the way it distorts the sky around its edges.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29775209</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29776377</id>
	<title>Re:40 MILLION USD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255775040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I agree, it is idiotic on it is face.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree , it is idiotic on it is face .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree, it is idiotic on it is face.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29775665</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29777561</id>
	<title>Re:If it's not in operation...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255794240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Detecting the Higgs Boson is not going to be a matter of turning on the LHC and revolutionizing physics overnight.  In fact, it's more likely that each detector experiment will spend a month learning how their detector behaves, a year collecting data, and a couple more months to analyze and publish their first substantial set of results.</p><p>Of course, that gives you more time to stockpile jello shots.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Detecting the Higgs Boson is not going to be a matter of turning on the LHC and revolutionizing physics overnight .
In fact , it 's more likely that each detector experiment will spend a month learning how their detector behaves , a year collecting data , and a couple more months to analyze and publish their first substantial set of results.Of course , that gives you more time to stockpile jello shots .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Detecting the Higgs Boson is not going to be a matter of turning on the LHC and revolutionizing physics overnight.
In fact, it's more likely that each detector experiment will spend a month learning how their detector behaves, a year collecting data, and a couple more months to analyze and publish their first substantial set of results.Of course, that gives you more time to stockpile jello shots.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774267</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774297</id>
	<title>Somone from the future will put a stop to it all</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255696620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/13/science/space/13lhc.html?\_r=2</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.nytimes.com/2009/10/13/science/space/13lhc.html ? \ _r = 2</tokentext>
<sentencetext> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/13/science/space/13lhc.html?\_r=2</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29782075</id>
	<title>Re:Wrong summary</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1255804080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because, like it or not, regardless of the condition of it, the world STILL revolves around it at this point in time.  If you wanted it in the original currency, wouldn't you want it in Francs, not Euros</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because , like it or not , regardless of the condition of it , the world STILL revolves around it at this point in time .
If you wanted it in the original currency , would n't you want it in Francs , not Euros</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because, like it or not, regardless of the condition of it, the world STILL revolves around it at this point in time.
If you wanted it in the original currency, wouldn't you want it in Francs, not Euros</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774853</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29775085</id>
	<title>1900 degrees ??!?</title>
	<author>pem</author>
	<datestamp>1255704780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> LHC Successfully Cools To 1.9K In Lead-Up To Restart</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
Doesn't seem very cool to me, in any commonly used temperature scale!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>LHC Successfully Cools To 1.9K In Lead-Up To Restart Does n't seem very cool to me , in any commonly used temperature scale !</tokentext>
<sentencetext> LHC Successfully Cools To 1.9K In Lead-Up To Restart

Doesn't seem very cool to me, in any commonly used temperature scale!
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29780849</id>
	<title>Re:Wrong summary</title>
	<author>troff</author>
	<datestamp>1255783260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I congratulate you on what is a good idea. Its only flaw is that it assumes that the *intended* target audience (i.e. as many people as possible, it's a BBC story) will actually get up and (look up the exchange rate &amp;&amp; get a pen-or-calculator).</htmltext>
<tokenext>I congratulate you on what is a good idea .
Its only flaw is that it assumes that the * intended * target audience ( i.e .
as many people as possible , it 's a BBC story ) will actually get up and ( look up the exchange rate &amp;&amp; get a pen-or-calculator ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I congratulate you on what is a good idea.
Its only flaw is that it assumes that the *intended* target audience (i.e.
as many people as possible, it's a BBC story) will actually get up and (look up the exchange rate &amp;&amp; get a pen-or-calculator).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774853</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774395</id>
	<title>Half-Life Reference In 3...2...1...</title>
	<author>Xin Jing</author>
	<datestamp>1255697400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They must know that this will cause a resonance cascade, even when the warnings indicate that the anti-mass spectrometer readings are dangerously high - yet at the last minute are deemed to be within acceptable limits.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They must know that this will cause a resonance cascade , even when the warnings indicate that the anti-mass spectrometer readings are dangerously high - yet at the last minute are deemed to be within acceptable limits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They must know that this will cause a resonance cascade, even when the warnings indicate that the anti-mass spectrometer readings are dangerously high - yet at the last minute are deemed to be within acceptable limits.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29775379</id>
	<title>Re:Better double-check...</title>
	<author>Firehed</author>
	<datestamp>1255709640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The comments in that page's source are definite winners.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The comments in that page 's source are definite winners .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The comments in that page's source are definite winners.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774291</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29775921</id>
	<title>Re:Huge Waste of Taxpayer Dollars</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255720080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I for one look forward to the LHC setting the scene for scientists to make a pill that gives my old fella a few more inches.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I for one look forward to the LHC setting the scene for scientists to make a pill that gives my old fella a few more inches .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I for one look forward to the LHC setting the scene for scientists to make a pill that gives my old fella a few more inches.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774935</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29775743</id>
	<title>Re:Huge Waste of Taxpayer Dollars</title>
	<author>Chris Tucker</author>
	<datestamp>1255715700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If I had points, I would SO mod you up!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If I had points , I would SO mod you up !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I had points, I would SO mod you up!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774935</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29777941</id>
	<title>OT - Where's the movie</title>
	<author>TJamieson</author>
	<datestamp>1255798260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I refuse to believe, 3 years after seeing the original sig, that you are still making a movie<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I refuse to believe , 3 years after seeing the original sig , that you are still making a movie : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I refuse to believe, 3 years after seeing the original sig, that you are still making a movie :-)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774483</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29775065</id>
	<title>colder than</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255704480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>colder than my wife...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/bitter -- oh so bitter</p><p>(better make sure to check "post anonymously")</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>colder than my wife... /bitter -- oh so bitter ( better make sure to check " post anonymously " )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>colder than my wife... /bitter -- oh so bitter(better make sure to check "post anonymously")</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774787</id>
	<title>Re:Large Hardon Collider could corrupt civilisatio</title>
	<author>fahrbot-bot</author>
	<datestamp>1255701180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>pump various types of <b>hardon</b> up to huge energies before banging them together</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
I think there's a place in West Hollywood you can get that done for about $20.<br>
(Bring a friend for 10\% off.)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>pump various types of hardon up to huge energies before banging them together I think there 's a place in West Hollywood you can get that done for about $ 20 .
( Bring a friend for 10 \ % off .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>pump various types of hardon up to huge energies before banging them together

I think there's a place in West Hollywood you can get that done for about $20.
(Bring a friend for 10\% off.
)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774399</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774301</id>
	<title>Re:Cool!</title>
	<author>sakdoctor</author>
	<datestamp>1255696620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, we're having a windows 7 party too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , we 're having a windows 7 party too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, we're having a windows 7 party too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774209</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29777477</id>
	<title>Re:1900 degrees ??!?</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1255793460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The url says "19K". Which one do we believe?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The url says " 19K " .
Which one do we believe ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The url says "19K".
Which one do we believe?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29775085</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29778227</id>
	<title>Re:40 MILLION USD</title>
	<author>tmosley</author>
	<datestamp>1255801080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think you'll notice it over the next decade as the currency collapses and the United States is torn to shreds by Civil War.  You think it can't happen?  Two years ago, no-one thought there could be another Great Depression either, yet here we are.<br> <br>

Also, understand that no government spending is "necessary".  Rather, all government spending is in pursuit of two goals, re-election, and a cushy job for when the public realizes that you have betrayed them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you 'll notice it over the next decade as the currency collapses and the United States is torn to shreds by Civil War .
You think it ca n't happen ?
Two years ago , no-one thought there could be another Great Depression either , yet here we are .
Also , understand that no government spending is " necessary " .
Rather , all government spending is in pursuit of two goals , re-election , and a cushy job for when the public realizes that you have betrayed them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you'll notice it over the next decade as the currency collapses and the United States is torn to shreds by Civil War.
You think it can't happen?
Two years ago, no-one thought there could be another Great Depression either, yet here we are.
Also, understand that no government spending is "necessary".
Rather, all government spending is in pursuit of two goals, re-election, and a cushy job for when the public realizes that you have betrayed them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29775665</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774237</id>
	<title>I hope it breaks again, and again, and again...</title>
	<author>ground.zero.612</author>
	<datestamp>1255696080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>For reals.</htmltext>
<tokenext>For reals .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For reals.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774437</id>
	<title>Low Profile</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255697820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just think that this time around they keep a little low profile until it works fine</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just think that this time around they keep a little low profile until it works fine</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just think that this time around they keep a little low profile until it works fine</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774483</id>
	<title>goodbye everyone</title>
	<author>circletimessquare</author>
	<datestamp>1255698420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>it was nice knowing you</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>it was nice knowing you</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it was nice knowing you</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774853</id>
	<title>Re:Wrong summary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255702080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>  2. Couldn't this say $40,000,000 USD (FORTY MILLION UNITED STATES DOLLARS) to be more dramatic?</i>

<p>And couldn't they tell us the cost in euro? I mean, that's the unit in which the LHC is budgeted. Why convert into some volatile foreign currency? Let us know the actual figure, and if we live outside the eurozone then we'll convert into our own local currency by ourselves, thanks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>2 .
Could n't this say $ 40,000,000 USD ( FORTY MILLION UNITED STATES DOLLARS ) to be more dramatic ?
And could n't they tell us the cost in euro ?
I mean , that 's the unit in which the LHC is budgeted .
Why convert into some volatile foreign currency ?
Let us know the actual figure , and if we live outside the eurozone then we 'll convert into our own local currency by ourselves , thanks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  2.
Couldn't this say $40,000,000 USD (FORTY MILLION UNITED STATES DOLLARS) to be more dramatic?
And couldn't they tell us the cost in euro?
I mean, that's the unit in which the LHC is budgeted.
Why convert into some volatile foreign currency?
Let us know the actual figure, and if we live outside the eurozone then we'll convert into our own local currency by ourselves, thanks.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774343</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29776487</id>
	<title>Re:Huge Waste of Taxpayer Dollars</title>
	<author>maxwell demon</author>
	<datestamp>1255778580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Indeed, just give everyone living on the streets a few dollars (because with $40 million, it won't be more than that). I'm sure that will save them.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Indeed , just give everyone living on the streets a few dollars ( because with $ 40 million , it wo n't be more than that ) .
I 'm sure that will save them .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Indeed, just give everyone living on the streets a few dollars (because with $40 million, it won't be more than that).
I'm sure that will save them.
:-)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774747</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29797065</id>
	<title>Re:Better double-check...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255978920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anyone ever view the source of that page?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone ever view the source of that page ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone ever view the source of that page?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774291</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29775775</id>
	<title>Re:Wrong summary</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1255716120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>2. Couldn't this say $40,000,000 USD (FORTY MILLION UNITED STATES DOLLARS) to be more dramatic?</i></p><p>You'd prefer they imply the reader is innumerate?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>2 .
Could n't this say $ 40,000,000 USD ( FORTY MILLION UNITED STATES DOLLARS ) to be more dramatic ? You 'd prefer they imply the reader is innumerate ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>2.
Couldn't this say $40,000,000 USD (FORTY MILLION UNITED STATES DOLLARS) to be more dramatic?You'd prefer they imply the reader is innumerate?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774343</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774747</id>
	<title>Huge Waste of Taxpayer Dollars</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255700760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When millions are living on the streets, millions more losing their homes, why oh why are we spending money on crap like this?

Disassemble and sell off the LHC, and give the money back to the People, who need the money for human needs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When millions are living on the streets , millions more losing their homes , why oh why are we spending money on crap like this ?
Disassemble and sell off the LHC , and give the money back to the People , who need the money for human needs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When millions are living on the streets, millions more losing their homes, why oh why are we spending money on crap like this?
Disassemble and sell off the LHC, and give the money back to the People, who need the money for human needs.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774343</id>
	<title>Wrong summary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255696980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"LHC engineers have spent nearly $40,000,000 USD on a new system to prevent quenching condition that<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..."</p><p>No,</p><p>
&nbsp; 1. it is not to prevent quenching, it is to allow helium to escape properly. Superconductors will at some point in their life quench or lose superconductivity. This happens for various reasons though most are due to insufficient cooling, like the last case.</p><p>
&nbsp; 2. Couldn't this say $40,000,000 USD (FORTY MILLION UNITED STATES DOLLARS) to be more dramatic?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" LHC engineers have spent nearly $ 40,000,000 USD on a new system to prevent quenching condition that ... " No ,   1. it is not to prevent quenching , it is to allow helium to escape properly .
Superconductors will at some point in their life quench or lose superconductivity .
This happens for various reasons though most are due to insufficient cooling , like the last case .
  2 .
Could n't this say $ 40,000,000 USD ( FORTY MILLION UNITED STATES DOLLARS ) to be more dramatic ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"LHC engineers have spent nearly $40,000,000 USD on a new system to prevent quenching condition that ..."No,
  1. it is not to prevent quenching, it is to allow helium to escape properly.
Superconductors will at some point in their life quench or lose superconductivity.
This happens for various reasons though most are due to insufficient cooling, like the last case.
  2.
Couldn't this say $40,000,000 USD (FORTY MILLION UNITED STATES DOLLARS) to be more dramatic?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29795083</id>
	<title>Re:Wrong summary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255971420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Interestng, a score of +5 but not at all interesting or insightful, let alone humourous!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Interestng , a score of + 5 but not at all interesting or insightful , let alone humourous !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interestng, a score of +5 but not at all interesting or insightful, let alone humourous!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774623</id>
	<title>Re:40 MILLION USD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255699740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Government balance sheets aren't "in the red" due to a lack of money, it's due to a lack of restraint. "Oh hey let's attack a country.. Oh hey let's attack another.. Let's give money to the banks with the stupidest management.. Let's give people money to not grow food.. Let's give people money to buy new cars.." and then when the budget problems come up "If this spending bill doesn't pass, we have no choice but to shut down libraries and fire departments!"</htmltext>
<tokenext>Government balance sheets are n't " in the red " due to a lack of money , it 's due to a lack of restraint .
" Oh hey let 's attack a country.. Oh hey let 's attack another.. Let 's give money to the banks with the stupidest management.. Let 's give people money to not grow food.. Let 's give people money to buy new cars.. " and then when the budget problems come up " If this spending bill does n't pass , we have no choice but to shut down libraries and fire departments !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Government balance sheets aren't "in the red" due to a lack of money, it's due to a lack of restraint.
"Oh hey let's attack a country.. Oh hey let's attack another.. Let's give money to the banks with the stupidest management.. Let's give people money to not grow food.. Let's give people money to buy new cars.." and then when the budget problems come up "If this spending bill doesn't pass, we have no choice but to shut down libraries and fire departments!
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29775209</id>
	<title>Seen from space</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255706940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Could you detect the ring with thermal imaging from an orbiting satellite?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Could you detect the ring with thermal imaging from an orbiting satellite ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Could you detect the ring with thermal imaging from an orbiting satellite?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29775765</id>
	<title>Almost there, but not quite.</title>
	<author>Animats</author>
	<datestamp>1255716000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Actually, the whole system is getting close to 1.8K, but <a href="http://hcc.web.cern.ch/hcc/field.php" title="web.cern.ch">some magnets aren't quite down there yet.</a> [web.cern.ch]  About 2/3 of the ring has cyro authorization (cold enough to power up the magnets) but the magnets haven't been energized yet.  All the magnets have to be powered up.  Then comes low power beam testing and alignment.  Then maybe they can do some science.
</p><p>
There are supposed to be two big fixes in place now.  First, the quench protection system now covers not just the magnets, but the connections to them.  (The basic idea is that if a superconducting magnet ceases to be superconductive at some hot spot (in which case all the energy in the magnet comes out as heat), the system dumps the energy into resistive loads, and heats up the entire magnet quickly to make it resistive, so that the energy is dumped throughout the magnet, not just at the hot spot.   Last time, a hot spot developed at a welded splice.  Second, the venting system for dealing with the gaseous helium released after a quench has been improved, with bigger rupture discs.  Last time, the vents weren't big enough, and there was substantial damage to the cryogenic plumbing.
</p><p>
None of this has anything to do with the physics.  It's all plumbing and DC power control.
</p><p>
The original design documents say a quench is supposed to be recoverable within three hours.  That was rather optimistic.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , the whole system is getting close to 1.8K , but some magnets are n't quite down there yet .
[ web.cern.ch ] About 2/3 of the ring has cyro authorization ( cold enough to power up the magnets ) but the magnets have n't been energized yet .
All the magnets have to be powered up .
Then comes low power beam testing and alignment .
Then maybe they can do some science .
There are supposed to be two big fixes in place now .
First , the quench protection system now covers not just the magnets , but the connections to them .
( The basic idea is that if a superconducting magnet ceases to be superconductive at some hot spot ( in which case all the energy in the magnet comes out as heat ) , the system dumps the energy into resistive loads , and heats up the entire magnet quickly to make it resistive , so that the energy is dumped throughout the magnet , not just at the hot spot .
Last time , a hot spot developed at a welded splice .
Second , the venting system for dealing with the gaseous helium released after a quench has been improved , with bigger rupture discs .
Last time , the vents were n't big enough , and there was substantial damage to the cryogenic plumbing .
None of this has anything to do with the physics .
It 's all plumbing and DC power control .
The original design documents say a quench is supposed to be recoverable within three hours .
That was rather optimistic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Actually, the whole system is getting close to 1.8K, but some magnets aren't quite down there yet.
[web.cern.ch]  About 2/3 of the ring has cyro authorization (cold enough to power up the magnets) but the magnets haven't been energized yet.
All the magnets have to be powered up.
Then comes low power beam testing and alignment.
Then maybe they can do some science.
There are supposed to be two big fixes in place now.
First, the quench protection system now covers not just the magnets, but the connections to them.
(The basic idea is that if a superconducting magnet ceases to be superconductive at some hot spot (in which case all the energy in the magnet comes out as heat), the system dumps the energy into resistive loads, and heats up the entire magnet quickly to make it resistive, so that the energy is dumped throughout the magnet, not just at the hot spot.
Last time, a hot spot developed at a welded splice.
Second, the venting system for dealing with the gaseous helium released after a quench has been improved, with bigger rupture discs.
Last time, the vents weren't big enough, and there was substantial damage to the cryogenic plumbing.
None of this has anything to do with the physics.
It's all plumbing and DC power control.
The original design documents say a quench is supposed to be recoverable within three hours.
That was rather optimistic.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29775565</id>
	<title>Re:Huge Waste of Taxpayer Dollars</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255713000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You attribute the internet to military, but the web began at CERN!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You attribute the internet to military , but the web began at CERN !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You attribute the internet to military, but the web began at CERN!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774973</id>
	<title>Re:Cool!</title>
	<author>pdxp</author>
	<datestamp>1255703340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. and you have friends? You must be one of those <em>cool</em> people I keep hearing about.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is / .
and you have friends ?
You must be one of those cool people I keep hearing about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is /.
and you have friends?
You must be one of those cool people I keep hearing about.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29776323</id>
	<title>Re:40 MILLION USD</title>
	<author>Nazlfrag</author>
	<datestamp>1255773480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So you covered the bailout with wild speculation on what might have happened, how about the GPs other points about military waste (are all those bases in over half the countries on the planet really neccessary?), the ludicrous primary industry manipulation that ends up with farmers paid to not grow crops, the auto industry that can't compete still not competitive thanks to handouts? Massively corrupt bureaucrats selling our childrens future to their cronies in every industry is what puts us in the red, not roads and NASA.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So you covered the bailout with wild speculation on what might have happened , how about the GPs other points about military waste ( are all those bases in over half the countries on the planet really neccessary ?
) , the ludicrous primary industry manipulation that ends up with farmers paid to not grow crops , the auto industry that ca n't compete still not competitive thanks to handouts ?
Massively corrupt bureaucrats selling our childrens future to their cronies in every industry is what puts us in the red , not roads and NASA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So you covered the bailout with wild speculation on what might have happened, how about the GPs other points about military waste (are all those bases in over half the countries on the planet really neccessary?
), the ludicrous primary industry manipulation that ends up with farmers paid to not grow crops, the auto industry that can't compete still not competitive thanks to handouts?
Massively corrupt bureaucrats selling our childrens future to their cronies in every industry is what puts us in the red, not roads and NASA.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29776179</id>
	<title>Re:1900 degrees ??!?</title>
	<author>Dan541</author>
	<datestamp>1255812060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1.9 Kelvin is just above absolute zero.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1.9 Kelvin is just above absolute zero .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.9 Kelvin is just above absolute zero.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29775863</id>
	<title>Experiment scheduled for 12/21/2012?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255718580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let me guess, they'll do the experiment on December 21, 2012, right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let me guess , they 'll do the experiment on December 21 , 2012 , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let me guess, they'll do the experiment on December 21, 2012, right?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29776657</id>
	<title>Re:40 MILLION USD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255783140000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>It's the restraint of people to pay taxes.</p><p>The money has to come from somewhere...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's the restraint of people to pay taxes.The money has to come from somewhere.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's the restraint of people to pay taxes.The money has to come from somewhere...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29786229</id>
	<title>At fucking last ...</title>
	<author>unity100</author>
	<datestamp>1255898280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i've been waiting for this<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... dont ask why.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i 've been waiting for this ... dont ask why .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i've been waiting for this ... dont ask why.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774249</id>
	<title>I knew it!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255696200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Related Stories<br>Science: The LHC, the Higgs Boson, and Fate 666 comments"</p><p>It's a sign, they're going to kill us all!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Related StoriesScience : The LHC , the Higgs Boson , and Fate 666 comments " It 's a sign , they 're going to kill us all !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Related StoriesScience: The LHC, the Higgs Boson, and Fate 666 comments"It's a sign, they're going to kill us all!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774815</id>
	<title>Re:Huge Waste of Taxpayer Dollars</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255701540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Searching for how the universe works and why the world is as it is represents a search for purpose which is as intrinsic a human need as food or shelter.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Searching for how the universe works and why the world is as it is represents a search for purpose which is as intrinsic a human need as food or shelter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Searching for how the universe works and why the world is as it is represents a search for purpose which is as intrinsic a human need as food or shelter.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29782059</id>
	<title>Re:If it's not in operation...</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1255803540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because cooling something to near absolute 0 is not something you can do over night for a multitude of reasons, one of the primary being that there is SO LITTLE energy IN something at 1.9k that it takes a very long time before it bleeds into something else so that it can get cooler.</p><p>Remember 'cold' is just 'not hot'.  Heat is energy, hotter is more energetic.  When you get to 1.9k the atoms are barely vibrating and there is nothing around for the atoms to bump into to transfer the heat energy off it and into the cooling system.</p><p>Cooling things down actually takes FAR more effort than heating them up.  They've got this thing to a temp colder than the void in empty space, and everything around it is FAR FAR hotter.</p><p>Now consider their doing this to a series of tunnels that are what, 17km long?  LOTS of energy to dissipate, and they've got to dissipate it into an environment that has about 400 times MORE energy.</p><p>Its kind of like trying to make a car sit entirely stationary in space and time.  While its riding in a train across the countryside, which is of course on the Earth which is hurtling through space at thousands of km/hour.  Its really hard to take energy out of a system when everything around the system is trying to add energy to it, literally EVERYTHING (the vast voids of space included).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because cooling something to near absolute 0 is not something you can do over night for a multitude of reasons , one of the primary being that there is SO LITTLE energy IN something at 1.9k that it takes a very long time before it bleeds into something else so that it can get cooler.Remember 'cold ' is just 'not hot' .
Heat is energy , hotter is more energetic .
When you get to 1.9k the atoms are barely vibrating and there is nothing around for the atoms to bump into to transfer the heat energy off it and into the cooling system.Cooling things down actually takes FAR more effort than heating them up .
They 've got this thing to a temp colder than the void in empty space , and everything around it is FAR FAR hotter.Now consider their doing this to a series of tunnels that are what , 17km long ?
LOTS of energy to dissipate , and they 've got to dissipate it into an environment that has about 400 times MORE energy.Its kind of like trying to make a car sit entirely stationary in space and time .
While its riding in a train across the countryside , which is of course on the Earth which is hurtling through space at thousands of km/hour .
Its really hard to take energy out of a system when everything around the system is trying to add energy to it , literally EVERYTHING ( the vast voids of space included ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because cooling something to near absolute 0 is not something you can do over night for a multitude of reasons, one of the primary being that there is SO LITTLE energy IN something at 1.9k that it takes a very long time before it bleeds into something else so that it can get cooler.Remember 'cold' is just 'not hot'.
Heat is energy, hotter is more energetic.
When you get to 1.9k the atoms are barely vibrating and there is nothing around for the atoms to bump into to transfer the heat energy off it and into the cooling system.Cooling things down actually takes FAR more effort than heating them up.
They've got this thing to a temp colder than the void in empty space, and everything around it is FAR FAR hotter.Now consider their doing this to a series of tunnels that are what, 17km long?
LOTS of energy to dissipate, and they've got to dissipate it into an environment that has about 400 times MORE energy.Its kind of like trying to make a car sit entirely stationary in space and time.
While its riding in a train across the countryside, which is of course on the Earth which is hurtling through space at thousands of km/hour.
Its really hard to take energy out of a system when everything around the system is trying to add energy to it, literally EVERYTHING (the vast voids of space included).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29775281</id>
	<title>CIA</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255707840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Time to activate the <a href="http://www.fnal.gov/" title="fnal.gov" rel="nofollow">FNAL</a> [fnal.gov] mole.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Time to activate the FNAL [ fnal.gov ] mole .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Time to activate the FNAL [fnal.gov] mole.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29779951</id>
	<title>Re:40 MILLION USD</title>
	<author>khallow</author>
	<datestamp>1255774560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It's only on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. that the rabid libertarian sentiment doesn't get you laughed out of the room. It's idiotic on it's face.</p></div><p>What rabid libertarian sentiment? How does a generic criticism of US government spending suddenly qualify as rabid libertarian sentiment?<br> <br>

Here's my take. Public funds aren't free money. Every public service you mention comes at a cost. Government is not just a list of benefits. In that light it is reasonable to become concerned, either if there is a surfeit of government spending where the benefit doesn't exceed the cost or if the trend of overall spending seems to be going to unsustainable places. In my view, both apply to the US today.<br> <br>

For example, a huge portion of government spending goes to entitlements to old people. What are the benefits of paying many hundreds of billions per year to the elderly at the expense of everyone else? Social Security is alleged to provide "retirement insurance" though it doesn't. Medicare provides huge incentives for the elderly to hide or transfer their assets and nurse health care at the public teat. Both programs are growing at a rate that threatens the solvency of the US.<br> <br>

Why try to dump more money into education when it's clear (from the fact that education costs are increasing faster than the rate of inflation and the increasing intellectual weakness of college graduates) that too much money is already being pumped into education? What is the point of NASA? For example, it has spent the last four years attempting to build a rocket, the Ares I that already exists as the Delta IV Heavy.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The government exists specifically to pay for all those things which we all find beneficial to society, and would be impractical to do individually, or otherwise piecemeal.</p></div><p>The government exists to do those things that we truly need, but can't do ourselves: security, a decisive system for settling disagreement that all parties agree upon, development of some public goods, etc. The problem now is that spending is now spent on wants not on needs that can only be provided by government. Sure, security of food sounds a nice idea, but we don't need farming subsidies in the slightest. Education subsidies sound good, but we'd still educate people (and probably get better value for the money). Maybe there's a valid security risk of old grandmothers eating catfood, but we don't need the vast scale of Social Security to provide that security net for them. Maybe there should be a health care last resort for the people who can't afford anything else. But that's not Medicare, which already has passed beyond any reasonable spending limits and still rapidly grows in spending.<br> <br>

Do we really need a military of the size we have, geared to fight wars we've never experienced? Did we really need to "nation build" Iraq, especially given that most of the money probably didn't go to Iraq, but rather to foreign (especially US) contractors?<br> <br>

Do we need to "rescue" businesses by spending hundreds of billions on them, only to do the same thing again in a few years? How do we benefit from partial government ownership of banks and car companies? Or extreme favoritism to labor unions and people who borrowed too much money?<br> <br>

At some point, it has to be realized that government spending isn't inherently a good idea and that much more than half of it is spent on petty things that we don't need, but merely are too cheap to buy with our own money.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's only on / .
that the rabid libertarian sentiment does n't get you laughed out of the room .
It 's idiotic on it 's face.What rabid libertarian sentiment ?
How does a generic criticism of US government spending suddenly qualify as rabid libertarian sentiment ?
Here 's my take .
Public funds are n't free money .
Every public service you mention comes at a cost .
Government is not just a list of benefits .
In that light it is reasonable to become concerned , either if there is a surfeit of government spending where the benefit does n't exceed the cost or if the trend of overall spending seems to be going to unsustainable places .
In my view , both apply to the US today .
For example , a huge portion of government spending goes to entitlements to old people .
What are the benefits of paying many hundreds of billions per year to the elderly at the expense of everyone else ?
Social Security is alleged to provide " retirement insurance " though it does n't .
Medicare provides huge incentives for the elderly to hide or transfer their assets and nurse health care at the public teat .
Both programs are growing at a rate that threatens the solvency of the US .
Why try to dump more money into education when it 's clear ( from the fact that education costs are increasing faster than the rate of inflation and the increasing intellectual weakness of college graduates ) that too much money is already being pumped into education ?
What is the point of NASA ?
For example , it has spent the last four years attempting to build a rocket , the Ares I that already exists as the Delta IV Heavy.The government exists specifically to pay for all those things which we all find beneficial to society , and would be impractical to do individually , or otherwise piecemeal.The government exists to do those things that we truly need , but ca n't do ourselves : security , a decisive system for settling disagreement that all parties agree upon , development of some public goods , etc .
The problem now is that spending is now spent on wants not on needs that can only be provided by government .
Sure , security of food sounds a nice idea , but we do n't need farming subsidies in the slightest .
Education subsidies sound good , but we 'd still educate people ( and probably get better value for the money ) .
Maybe there 's a valid security risk of old grandmothers eating catfood , but we do n't need the vast scale of Social Security to provide that security net for them .
Maybe there should be a health care last resort for the people who ca n't afford anything else .
But that 's not Medicare , which already has passed beyond any reasonable spending limits and still rapidly grows in spending .
Do we really need a military of the size we have , geared to fight wars we 've never experienced ?
Did we really need to " nation build " Iraq , especially given that most of the money probably did n't go to Iraq , but rather to foreign ( especially US ) contractors ?
Do we need to " rescue " businesses by spending hundreds of billions on them , only to do the same thing again in a few years ?
How do we benefit from partial government ownership of banks and car companies ?
Or extreme favoritism to labor unions and people who borrowed too much money ?
At some point , it has to be realized that government spending is n't inherently a good idea and that much more than half of it is spent on petty things that we do n't need , but merely are too cheap to buy with our own money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's only on /.
that the rabid libertarian sentiment doesn't get you laughed out of the room.
It's idiotic on it's face.What rabid libertarian sentiment?
How does a generic criticism of US government spending suddenly qualify as rabid libertarian sentiment?
Here's my take.
Public funds aren't free money.
Every public service you mention comes at a cost.
Government is not just a list of benefits.
In that light it is reasonable to become concerned, either if there is a surfeit of government spending where the benefit doesn't exceed the cost or if the trend of overall spending seems to be going to unsustainable places.
In my view, both apply to the US today.
For example, a huge portion of government spending goes to entitlements to old people.
What are the benefits of paying many hundreds of billions per year to the elderly at the expense of everyone else?
Social Security is alleged to provide "retirement insurance" though it doesn't.
Medicare provides huge incentives for the elderly to hide or transfer their assets and nurse health care at the public teat.
Both programs are growing at a rate that threatens the solvency of the US.
Why try to dump more money into education when it's clear (from the fact that education costs are increasing faster than the rate of inflation and the increasing intellectual weakness of college graduates) that too much money is already being pumped into education?
What is the point of NASA?
For example, it has spent the last four years attempting to build a rocket, the Ares I that already exists as the Delta IV Heavy.The government exists specifically to pay for all those things which we all find beneficial to society, and would be impractical to do individually, or otherwise piecemeal.The government exists to do those things that we truly need, but can't do ourselves: security, a decisive system for settling disagreement that all parties agree upon, development of some public goods, etc.
The problem now is that spending is now spent on wants not on needs that can only be provided by government.
Sure, security of food sounds a nice idea, but we don't need farming subsidies in the slightest.
Education subsidies sound good, but we'd still educate people (and probably get better value for the money).
Maybe there's a valid security risk of old grandmothers eating catfood, but we don't need the vast scale of Social Security to provide that security net for them.
Maybe there should be a health care last resort for the people who can't afford anything else.
But that's not Medicare, which already has passed beyond any reasonable spending limits and still rapidly grows in spending.
Do we really need a military of the size we have, geared to fight wars we've never experienced?
Did we really need to "nation build" Iraq, especially given that most of the money probably didn't go to Iraq, but rather to foreign (especially US) contractors?
Do we need to "rescue" businesses by spending hundreds of billions on them, only to do the same thing again in a few years?
How do we benefit from partial government ownership of banks and car companies?
Or extreme favoritism to labor unions and people who borrowed too much money?
At some point, it has to be realized that government spending isn't inherently a good idea and that much more than half of it is spent on petty things that we don't need, but merely are too cheap to buy with our own money.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774831</id>
	<title>Re:Huge Waste of Taxpayer Dollars</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255701720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're a waste of taxpayer dollars. Go pray for your food.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're a waste of taxpayer dollars .
Go pray for your food .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're a waste of taxpayer dollars.
Go pray for your food.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774419</id>
	<title>Re:If it's not in operation...</title>
	<author>Tablizer</author>
	<datestamp>1255697640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Then why are they spending all the energy to cool the things two months before it's needed?</p></div></blockquote><p>You mean they're spending like there's no tomorrow? Hmmmm.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Then why are they spending all the energy to cool the things two months before it 's needed ? You mean they 're spending like there 's no tomorrow ?
Hmmmm .        </tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then why are they spending all the energy to cool the things two months before it's needed?You mean they're spending like there's no tomorrow?
Hmmmm.
       
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774355</id>
	<title>Saturday Night Live</title>
	<author>SnarfQuest</author>
	<datestamp>1255697040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Destroy the Earth by creating a massive black hole? Nope, not yet...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Destroy the Earth by creating a massive black hole ?
Nope , not yet.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Destroy the Earth by creating a massive black hole?
Nope, not yet...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774555</id>
	<title>Re:Wrong summary</title>
	<author>BiggerIsBetter</author>
	<datestamp>1255699140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>  2. Couldn't this say $40,000,000 USD (FORTY MILLION UNITED STATES DOLLARS) <b>*places pinky finger at corner of mouth*</b> to be more dramatic?</p></div><p>Fixed that for you<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>2 .
Could n't this say $ 40,000,000 USD ( FORTY MILLION UNITED STATES DOLLARS ) * places pinky finger at corner of mouth * to be more dramatic ? Fixed that for you ; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  2.
Couldn't this say $40,000,000 USD (FORTY MILLION UNITED STATES DOLLARS) *places pinky finger at corner of mouth* to be more dramatic?Fixed that for you ;-)
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29782209</id>
	<title>Re:40 MILLION USD</title>
	<author>Korin43</author>
	<datestamp>1255806240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>NASA's requested 2010 budget is ~$20 billion. Whether or not that's a waste of money hardly matters since it's (comparatively) a very small amount.<br>
I'm talking about things like the military budget of about a trillion dollars a year. Or social security, to protect people's "right" to not work (notice: I'm not claiming some people can't work, but social security exists so everyone can stop working because there's this idea that after a certain age, people deserve to mooch off of everyone else).</p><p>And the bailout is much worse than just spending $600 billion. It's paying $600 billion to the worst banks to keep them from being bought by banks that were well run.</p><p>One more thing. I speak as a current student, and the whole "education needs more money" argument, is completely bullshit. Know what happened at my schools? "Hey so we have a bunch of money and they say we have to spend it." So they bought smart boards and upgraded gyms and none of it matters because the problem is the system, not the lack of shiny things. Some schools could probably use more money, but just throwing money in the general direction of the problem isn't going to help at all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>NASA 's requested 2010 budget is ~ $ 20 billion .
Whether or not that 's a waste of money hardly matters since it 's ( comparatively ) a very small amount .
I 'm talking about things like the military budget of about a trillion dollars a year .
Or social security , to protect people 's " right " to not work ( notice : I 'm not claiming some people ca n't work , but social security exists so everyone can stop working because there 's this idea that after a certain age , people deserve to mooch off of everyone else ) .And the bailout is much worse than just spending $ 600 billion .
It 's paying $ 600 billion to the worst banks to keep them from being bought by banks that were well run.One more thing .
I speak as a current student , and the whole " education needs more money " argument , is completely bullshit .
Know what happened at my schools ?
" Hey so we have a bunch of money and they say we have to spend it .
" So they bought smart boards and upgraded gyms and none of it matters because the problem is the system , not the lack of shiny things .
Some schools could probably use more money , but just throwing money in the general direction of the problem is n't going to help at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NASA's requested 2010 budget is ~$20 billion.
Whether or not that's a waste of money hardly matters since it's (comparatively) a very small amount.
I'm talking about things like the military budget of about a trillion dollars a year.
Or social security, to protect people's "right" to not work (notice: I'm not claiming some people can't work, but social security exists so everyone can stop working because there's this idea that after a certain age, people deserve to mooch off of everyone else).And the bailout is much worse than just spending $600 billion.
It's paying $600 billion to the worst banks to keep them from being bought by banks that were well run.One more thing.
I speak as a current student, and the whole "education needs more money" argument, is completely bullshit.
Know what happened at my schools?
"Hey so we have a bunch of money and they say we have to spend it.
" So they bought smart boards and upgraded gyms and none of it matters because the problem is the system, not the lack of shiny things.
Some schools could probably use more money, but just throwing money in the general direction of the problem isn't going to help at all.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29776275</id>
	<title>Re:If it's not in operation...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255771560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;permanently</p><p>More like half a year or so at a time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; permanentlyMore like half a year or so at a time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;permanentlyMore like half a year or so at a time.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29776425</id>
	<title>Noooooooo!</title>
	<author>BigBadBus</author>
	<datestamp>1255777080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It'll send a message back through time and stop itself!</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 'll send a message back through time and stop itself !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It'll send a message back through time and stop itself!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29775665</id>
	<title>Re:40 MILLION USD</title>
	<author>evilviper</author>
	<datestamp>1255714500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Government balance sheets aren't "in the red" due to a lack of money, it's due to a lack of restraint.</p></div></blockquote><p>"Restraint" implies something desired, but totally unnecessary.</p><p>When you go deeply in debt paying for college, it's not a "lack of restraint" that put you in that bad situation, but an investment, which may or may not pay off.</p><p>So why is the government so roundly critized for similarly trying to get the education dollars remotely back up to where they were (per-capita) 30+ years ago?</p><p>I guess NASA represents a lack of restraint as well.<br>Roads, too.  As well as all forms of public transit.</p><p>The government exists specifically to pay for all those things which we all find beneficial to society, and would be impractical to do individually, or otherwise piecemeal.</p><p>And even those areas of flagrant fraud and waste, while requiring a fix, won't come close to making up the national deficit.  The bailout money, while significant this year, will barely be noticeable average over the decades between major bailouts, AND would presumably end up costing everyone far more money, if that money wasn't spent where and when it was needed.</p><p>It's only on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. that the rabid libertarian sentiment doesn't get you laughed out of the room.  It's idiotic on it's face.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Government balance sheets are n't " in the red " due to a lack of money , it 's due to a lack of restraint .
" Restraint " implies something desired , but totally unnecessary.When you go deeply in debt paying for college , it 's not a " lack of restraint " that put you in that bad situation , but an investment , which may or may not pay off.So why is the government so roundly critized for similarly trying to get the education dollars remotely back up to where they were ( per-capita ) 30 + years ago ? I guess NASA represents a lack of restraint as well.Roads , too .
As well as all forms of public transit.The government exists specifically to pay for all those things which we all find beneficial to society , and would be impractical to do individually , or otherwise piecemeal.And even those areas of flagrant fraud and waste , while requiring a fix , wo n't come close to making up the national deficit .
The bailout money , while significant this year , will barely be noticeable average over the decades between major bailouts , AND would presumably end up costing everyone far more money , if that money was n't spent where and when it was needed.It 's only on / .
that the rabid libertarian sentiment does n't get you laughed out of the room .
It 's idiotic on it 's face .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Government balance sheets aren't "in the red" due to a lack of money, it's due to a lack of restraint.
"Restraint" implies something desired, but totally unnecessary.When you go deeply in debt paying for college, it's not a "lack of restraint" that put you in that bad situation, but an investment, which may or may not pay off.So why is the government so roundly critized for similarly trying to get the education dollars remotely back up to where they were (per-capita) 30+ years ago?I guess NASA represents a lack of restraint as well.Roads, too.
As well as all forms of public transit.The government exists specifically to pay for all those things which we all find beneficial to society, and would be impractical to do individually, or otherwise piecemeal.And even those areas of flagrant fraud and waste, while requiring a fix, won't come close to making up the national deficit.
The bailout money, while significant this year, will barely be noticeable average over the decades between major bailouts, AND would presumably end up costing everyone far more money, if that money wasn't spent where and when it was needed.It's only on /.
that the rabid libertarian sentiment doesn't get you laughed out of the room.
It's idiotic on it's face.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29778027</id>
	<title>Re:Huge Waste of Taxpayer Dollars</title>
	<author>Dazzadowling</author>
	<datestamp>1255798920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not to mention that disassembling it will require a VAST amount of money and the market for several stories of detector and superconductors that require a good years installation isn't that great (outside of the academic sphere of influence that the LHC is sitting in).

So even though I personally think it is money well spent, if you did take the view that it should be broken down and sold for bits, you wouldn't get much return on your investment.  Far better to let it continue on and do what it was designed to do.

And of course we could always raise the (same old tired) argument about why not spend our defence budget on the needy and homeless? Why not the media budget? and so forth.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to mention that disassembling it will require a VAST amount of money and the market for several stories of detector and superconductors that require a good years installation is n't that great ( outside of the academic sphere of influence that the LHC is sitting in ) .
So even though I personally think it is money well spent , if you did take the view that it should be broken down and sold for bits , you would n't get much return on your investment .
Far better to let it continue on and do what it was designed to do .
And of course we could always raise the ( same old tired ) argument about why not spend our defence budget on the needy and homeless ?
Why not the media budget ?
and so forth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to mention that disassembling it will require a VAST amount of money and the market for several stories of detector and superconductors that require a good years installation isn't that great (outside of the academic sphere of influence that the LHC is sitting in).
So even though I personally think it is money well spent, if you did take the view that it should be broken down and sold for bits, you wouldn't get much return on your investment.
Far better to let it continue on and do what it was designed to do.
And of course we could always raise the (same old tired) argument about why not spend our defence budget on the needy and homeless?
Why not the media budget?
and so forth.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29775047</id>
	<title>Re:If it's not in operation...</title>
	<author>JonathanPerelmann</author>
	<datestamp>1255704240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>because cooling down a 31km long ultra high vacuum apparatus isn't like making ice cubes. You need to go section by section, sealing it off, baking and pumping it to remove contaminates, then slowly cooling it to temperature. My groups apparatus takes up only half of a room and it took us weeks to bake and bring to temperature.</htmltext>
<tokenext>because cooling down a 31km long ultra high vacuum apparatus is n't like making ice cubes .
You need to go section by section , sealing it off , baking and pumping it to remove contaminates , then slowly cooling it to temperature .
My groups apparatus takes up only half of a room and it took us weeks to bake and bring to temperature .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>because cooling down a 31km long ultra high vacuum apparatus isn't like making ice cubes.
You need to go section by section, sealing it off, baking and pumping it to remove contaminates, then slowly cooling it to temperature.
My groups apparatus takes up only half of a room and it took us weeks to bake and bring to temperature.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29778807</id>
	<title>An intoxicating mix?</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1255806300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well hey, the Silent Earth scenario seems pretty groovy!</p><p><a href="http://www.silentearth.co.uk/" title="silentearth.co.uk">An intoxicating mix of mellow dance and ambient soul...</a> [silentearth.co.uk]</p><p>The earth reformatted, not so much.   Unless... I head for the boot sector!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well hey , the Silent Earth scenario seems pretty groovy ! An intoxicating mix of mellow dance and ambient soul... [ silentearth.co.uk ] The earth reformatted , not so much .
Unless... I head for the boot sector !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well hey, the Silent Earth scenario seems pretty groovy!An intoxicating mix of mellow dance and ambient soul... [silentearth.co.uk]The earth reformatted, not so much.
Unless... I head for the boot sector!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29775109</id>
	<title>Re:Large Hardon Collider could corrupt civilisatio</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255705080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm dyslexic, and I don't get this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm dyslexic , and I do n't get this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm dyslexic, and I don't get this.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774291</id>
	<title>Better double-check...</title>
	<author>David Gould</author>
	<datestamp>1255696500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Has the LHC destroyed the Earth yet?</p><p><a href="http://www.hasthelhcdestroyedtheearth.com/" title="hasthelhcd...eearth.com">NO</a> [hasthelhcd...eearth.com]</p><p>Good. Carry on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Has the LHC destroyed the Earth yet ? NO [ hasthelhcd...eearth.com ] Good .
Carry on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has the LHC destroyed the Earth yet?NO [hasthelhcd...eearth.com]Good.
Carry on.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29775559</id>
	<title>Re:40 MILLION USD</title>
	<author>troll8901</author>
	<datestamp>1255712940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Yes, I know, -1 Flamebait here I come.</p></div><p>You have great prediction powers, O Wise One!</p><p><div class="quote"><p>When every government balance sheet is dripping red, why are we doing this again ?</p></div><p>You do realize USA spends more money per month, just to fund the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan, compared to the entire cost of building the LHC over a decade, right?</p><p>Also, the physics/astronomy community benefits greatly from the success of LHC, and the worldwide scientific community as a whole also benefits.  Now, who benefits from the wars?</p></div>
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<tokenext>Yes , I know , -1 Flamebait here I come.You have great prediction powers , O Wise One ! When every government balance sheet is dripping red , why are we doing this again ? You do realize USA spends more money per month , just to fund the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan , compared to the entire cost of building the LHC over a decade , right ? Also , the physics/astronomy community benefits greatly from the success of LHC , and the worldwide scientific community as a whole also benefits .
Now , who benefits from the wars ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, I know, -1 Flamebait here I come.You have great prediction powers, O Wise One!When every government balance sheet is dripping red, why are we doing this again ?You do realize USA spends more money per month, just to fund the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan, compared to the entire cost of building the LHC over a decade, right?Also, the physics/astronomy community benefits greatly from the success of LHC, and the worldwide scientific community as a whole also benefits.
Now, who benefits from the wars?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29776391</id>
	<title>Prediction</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255775640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I predict they will discover the Higgs-Boson particle, aka "The God Particle", on December 21, 2012.<br> <br>Shortly thereafter the flux of strange quarks created at the same time will cause the fabric of the Universe to reformat to its original state, just like last time.  Thus bringing the end of our world and the beginning of the next cycle as predicted by the Mayan callendar.<br> <br>Or maybe it will be more of a "Silent Earth" scenario. (Google it, I'm too tired to link it myself, its bedtime)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I predict they will discover the Higgs-Boson particle , aka " The God Particle " , on December 21 , 2012 .
Shortly thereafter the flux of strange quarks created at the same time will cause the fabric of the Universe to reformat to its original state , just like last time .
Thus bringing the end of our world and the beginning of the next cycle as predicted by the Mayan callendar .
Or maybe it will be more of a " Silent Earth " scenario .
( Google it , I 'm too tired to link it myself , its bedtime )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I predict they will discover the Higgs-Boson particle, aka "The God Particle", on December 21, 2012.
Shortly thereafter the flux of strange quarks created at the same time will cause the fabric of the Universe to reformat to its original state, just like last time.
Thus bringing the end of our world and the beginning of the next cycle as predicted by the Mayan callendar.
Or maybe it will be more of a "Silent Earth" scenario.
(Google it, I'm too tired to link it myself, its bedtime)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774939</id>
	<title>Re:If it's not in operation...</title>
	<author>ceoyoyo</author>
	<datestamp>1255702980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Basically the thing doesn't work at all unless it's cooled.  Once you get it cooled down you can start testing the various parts to make sure they work.  Once you've done that you do an integrated, low power test where you circulate some particles and see if anything breaks.  If not, you work your way up until you're at the designed power.</p><p>It all takes quite a while.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Basically the thing does n't work at all unless it 's cooled .
Once you get it cooled down you can start testing the various parts to make sure they work .
Once you 've done that you do an integrated , low power test where you circulate some particles and see if anything breaks .
If not , you work your way up until you 're at the designed power.It all takes quite a while .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Basically the thing doesn't work at all unless it's cooled.
Once you get it cooled down you can start testing the various parts to make sure they work.
Once you've done that you do an integrated, low power test where you circulate some particles and see if anything breaks.
If not, you work your way up until you're at the designed power.It all takes quite a while.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774637</id>
	<title>Re:If it's not in operation...</title>
	<author>Goaway</author>
	<datestamp>1255699860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because cooling a 27 kilometer long object to 1.9 K takes a lot of time. You can't just keep heating it up and cooling it back down again. You cool it down once, and keep it cooled permanently.</p><p>Part of the reason this whole thing took so long in the first place was that it had to be heated up and cooled down again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because cooling a 27 kilometer long object to 1.9 K takes a lot of time .
You ca n't just keep heating it up and cooling it back down again .
You cool it down once , and keep it cooled permanently.Part of the reason this whole thing took so long in the first place was that it had to be heated up and cooled down again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because cooling a 27 kilometer long object to 1.9 K takes a lot of time.
You can't just keep heating it up and cooling it back down again.
You cool it down once, and keep it cooled permanently.Part of the reason this whole thing took so long in the first place was that it had to be heated up and cooled down again.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29776491</id>
	<title>Re:40 MILLION USD</title>
	<author>ivucica</author>
	<datestamp>1255778580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm interested in your thoughts on th "Let's raid Afghanistan and Iraq!" policy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm interested in your thoughts on th " Let 's raid Afghanistan and Iraq !
" policy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm interested in your thoughts on th "Let's raid Afghanistan and Iraq!
" policy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774773</id>
	<title>What?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255701000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hardon collider?<br>Higgs Bossom?</p><p>That article should go in idle.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hardon collider ? Higgs Bossom ? That article should go in idle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hardon collider?Higgs Bossom?That article should go in idle.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774455</id>
	<title>Re:Better double-check...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255698120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I, for one, welcome our black hole overlords!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I , for one , welcome our black hole overlords !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I, for one, welcome our black hole overlords!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29776531</id>
	<title>Re:If it's not in operation...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255779840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>That made my day.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That made my day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That made my day.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29775619</id>
	<title>Re:Large Hardon Collider could corrupt civilisatio</title>
	<author>troll8901</author>
	<datestamp>1255713900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>... pump...to huge energies before banging them together<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... faster and faster, as smoothly and tightly as possible<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... hardon smoothly entering<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... greater, hotter energies<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p> </div><p>I feel strangely aroused...</p><p><div class="quote"><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>... spray matter in all directions<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p> </div><p>Aahhhhhhhh!</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Large Hardon Collider</p></div><p>All the previous reports that I've been reading, must have had the wrong spelling!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... pump...to huge energies before banging them together ... faster and faster , as smoothly and tightly as possible ... hardon smoothly entering ... greater , hotter energies ... I feel strangely aroused... ... spray matter in all directions ... Aahhhhhhhh ! Large Hardon ColliderAll the previous reports that I 've been reading , must have had the wrong spelling !</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ... pump...to huge energies before banging them together ... faster and faster, as smoothly and tightly as possible ... hardon smoothly entering ... greater, hotter energies ... I feel strangely aroused... ... spray matter in all directions ... Aahhhhhhhh!Large Hardon ColliderAll the previous reports that I've been reading, must have had the wrong spelling!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29775167</id>
	<title>Re:Huge Waste of Taxpayer Dollars</title>
	<author>aliquis</author>
	<datestamp>1255706280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Crap like this is truly more useful for people at large than the people who lives on the streets or would lose their homes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Crap like this is truly more useful for people at large than the people who lives on the streets or would lose their homes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Crap like this is truly more useful for people at large than the people who lives on the streets or would lose their homes.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29782337</id>
	<title>Re:more fun than a windows 7 launch party</title>
	<author>metaforest</author>
	<datestamp>1255808280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> but, you don't get the ballmer signed edition...</p></div><p>Does that get signed with his public key or his private key?</p><p>And does Ballmer throw in a chair with it?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>but , you do n't get the ballmer signed edition...Does that get signed with his public key or his private key ? And does Ballmer throw in a chair with it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> but, you don't get the ballmer signed edition...Does that get signed with his public key or his private key?And does Ballmer throw in a chair with it?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774281</id>
	<title>Well it's about time.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255696380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>We need to get rid of all these extra hadrons that have been piling up since the accident.</htmltext>
<tokenext>We need to get rid of all these extra hadrons that have been piling up since the accident .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We need to get rid of all these extra hadrons that have been piling up since the accident.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29777793</id>
	<title>Re:Huge Waste of Taxpayer Dollars</title>
	<author>budgenator</author>
	<datestamp>1255796640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For the love of God man, think about all of those poor Physicists, Engineers and Technicians that would be out of a job  and slowly starving while living in the starlight hotel if we did that!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For the love of God man , think about all of those poor Physicists , Engineers and Technicians that would be out of a job and slowly starving while living in the starlight hotel if we did that !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For the love of God man, think about all of those poor Physicists, Engineers and Technicians that would be out of a job  and slowly starving while living in the starlight hotel if we did that!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774947</id>
	<title>Re:40 MILLION USD</title>
	<author>ceoyoyo</author>
	<datestamp>1255703160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's been estimated that most of the world's economy is the result of basic quantum mechanics research.  The money put into QM research has been an absolutely incredible investment.  Perhaps they're hoping that it will continue to be so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's been estimated that most of the world 's economy is the result of basic quantum mechanics research .
The money put into QM research has been an absolutely incredible investment .
Perhaps they 're hoping that it will continue to be so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's been estimated that most of the world's economy is the result of basic quantum mechanics research.
The money put into QM research has been an absolutely incredible investment.
Perhaps they're hoping that it will continue to be so.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774221</id>
	<title>death!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255695960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>yay blackhole'd death</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>yay blackhole 'd death</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yay blackhole'd death</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29782643</id>
	<title>Re:Almost there, but not quite.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255856700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ok, I'm pretty sure you're some kind of hot shot computer science professor and a hell of a lot smarter than I am, but this is getting into Buckaroo Banzai territory.  Is reading up on the inner workings of the LHC something you just do on a quiet afternoon after work?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok , I 'm pretty sure you 're some kind of hot shot computer science professor and a hell of a lot smarter than I am , but this is getting into Buckaroo Banzai territory .
Is reading up on the inner workings of the LHC something you just do on a quiet afternoon after work ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok, I'm pretty sure you're some kind of hot shot computer science professor and a hell of a lot smarter than I am, but this is getting into Buckaroo Banzai territory.
Is reading up on the inner workings of the LHC something you just do on a quiet afternoon after work?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774439</id>
	<title>Re:Better double-check...</title>
	<author>Troy</author>
	<datestamp>1255697820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sorry, but my results differ</p><p><a href="http://qntm.org/?board" title="qntm.org">http://qntm.org/?board</a> [qntm.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , but my results differhttp : //qntm.org/ ? board [ qntm.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, but my results differhttp://qntm.org/?board [qntm.org]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774399</id>
	<title>Large Hardon Collider could corrupt civilisation</title>
	<author>David Gerard</author>
	<datestamp>1255697460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The <a href="http://notnews.today.com/2008/09/09/large-hardon-collider-could-corrupt-civilisation/" title="today.com" rel="nofollow">Large Hardon Collider</a> [today.com] is designed to pump various types of hardon up to huge energies before banging them together. However, many concerned citizens without the personal experience or understanding of what hardons do worry at the idea of the large hardons being sucked deep into a black hole.

</p><p>The device will push large, energised hardons through a ring repeatedly, faster and faster, as smoothly and tightly as possible, until they clash and spray matter in all directions. &ldquo;It&rsquo;s nothing that cosmic rays don&rsquo;t do all the time all over the place,&rdquo; reassured a particularly buff scientist. &ldquo;It&rsquo;s perfectly right and natural.&rdquo;

</p><p>Low-energy hardon physics and the temperature dependence of hardon production are well understood, as is the process of a hardon smoothly entering the nucleus. But some question what may happen at greater, hotter energies.

</p><p>Church leaders have come out at the device. &ldquo;They&rsquo;re the same polarity!&rdquo; said Pope Palpatine XVI. The Church worries that strange matter may recruit normal matter and turn it strange.

</p><p>The Large Hardon Collider was to launch last September, but this has been delayed due to inexplicable and ill-timed failure to get a beam up. &ldquo;I&rsquo;m so sorry,&rdquo; stammered a scientist, &ldquo;this has never happened to us before.&rdquo;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Large Hardon Collider [ today.com ] is designed to pump various types of hardon up to huge energies before banging them together .
However , many concerned citizens without the personal experience or understanding of what hardons do worry at the idea of the large hardons being sucked deep into a black hole .
The device will push large , energised hardons through a ring repeatedly , faster and faster , as smoothly and tightly as possible , until they clash and spray matter in all directions .
   It    s nothing that cosmic rays don    t do all the time all over the place ,    reassured a particularly buff scientist .
   It    s perfectly right and natural.    Low-energy hardon physics and the temperature dependence of hardon production are well understood , as is the process of a hardon smoothly entering the nucleus .
But some question what may happen at greater , hotter energies .
Church leaders have come out at the device .
   They    re the same polarity !    said Pope Palpatine XVI .
The Church worries that strange matter may recruit normal matter and turn it strange .
The Large Hardon Collider was to launch last September , but this has been delayed due to inexplicable and ill-timed failure to get a beam up .
   I    m so sorry ,    stammered a scientist ,    this has never happened to us before.   </tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Large Hardon Collider [today.com] is designed to pump various types of hardon up to huge energies before banging them together.
However, many concerned citizens without the personal experience or understanding of what hardons do worry at the idea of the large hardons being sucked deep into a black hole.
The device will push large, energised hardons through a ring repeatedly, faster and faster, as smoothly and tightly as possible, until they clash and spray matter in all directions.
“It’s nothing that cosmic rays don’t do all the time all over the place,” reassured a particularly buff scientist.
“It’s perfectly right and natural.”

Low-energy hardon physics and the temperature dependence of hardon production are well understood, as is the process of a hardon smoothly entering the nucleus.
But some question what may happen at greater, hotter energies.
Church leaders have come out at the device.
“They’re the same polarity!” said Pope Palpatine XVI.
The Church worries that strange matter may recruit normal matter and turn it strange.
The Large Hardon Collider was to launch last September, but this has been delayed due to inexplicable and ill-timed failure to get a beam up.
“I’m so sorry,” stammered a scientist, “this has never happened to us before.”</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Large Hardon Collider could corrupt civilisatio</title>
	<author>Lehk228</author>
	<datestamp>1255699200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>if the balls touch, we all die</htmltext>
<tokenext>if the balls touch , we all die</tokentext>
<sentencetext>if the balls touch, we all die</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774497</id>
	<title>Re:Cool!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255698540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't worry you've got some time.  They probably won't reach full power until sometime in late 2012...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't worry you 've got some time .
They probably wo n't reach full power until sometime in late 2012.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't worry you've got some time.
They probably won't reach full power until sometime in late 2012...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29774937</id>
	<title>After you</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1255702920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unless you are at a library posting from a public computer you are hardly living your own words.  It seems to me your own existance is substantially less valuable than the LHC, which at least has some potential for benefitting humanity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unless you are at a library posting from a public computer you are hardly living your own words .
It seems to me your own existance is substantially less valuable than the LHC , which at least has some potential for benefitting humanity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unless you are at a library posting from a public computer you are hardly living your own words.
It seems to me your own existance is substantially less valuable than the LHC, which at least has some potential for benefitting humanity.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29775513</id>
	<title>more fun than a windows 7 launch party</title>
	<author>vaporland</author>
	<datestamp>1255712040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>but, you don't get the ballmer signed edition...</htmltext>
<tokenext>but , you do n't get the ballmer signed edition.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but, you don't get the ballmer signed edition...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_2229233.29775937</id>
	<title>Re:If it's not in operation...</title>
	<author>GreekLawyer</author>
	<datestamp>1255720860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Because cooling a 27 kilometer long object to 1.9 K takes a lot of time. You can't just keep heating it up and cooling it back down again. You cool it down once, and keep it cooled permanently.</p><p>Part of the reason this whole thing took so long in the first place was that it had to be heated up and cooled down again.</p></div><p>If the disasters don't get these guys at CERN the electricity company will definitely get them!!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because cooling a 27 kilometer long object to 1.9 K takes a lot of time .
You ca n't just keep heating it up and cooling it back down again .
You cool it down once , and keep it cooled permanently.Part of the reason this whole thing took so long in the first place was that it had to be heated up and cooled down again.If the disasters do n't get these guys at CERN the electricity company will definitely get them !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because cooling a 27 kilometer long object to 1.9 K takes a lot of time.
You can't just keep heating it up and cooling it back down again.
You cool it down once, and keep it cooled permanently.Part of the reason this whole thing took so long in the first place was that it had to be heated up and cooled down again.If the disasters don't get these guys at CERN the electricity company will definitely get them!
!
	</sentencetext>
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