<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_16_1539203</id>
	<title>Google Takes On Amazon With Own E-Book Store</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1255707780000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>CWmike writes <i>"Google announced on Thursday that next year it's <a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gr\_qJI9KI8h7PBC-AEeknD3ezkegD9BBHAT80">launching an online e-book store called Google Editions</a> where users will be able to buy digital books that can be read on a range of gadgets, including e-book readers, laptops, and cell phones. Press reports out of Germany, where it was announced, note that Google plans to offer up half a million e-books from the get-go. Dan Olds, an analyst with The Gabriel Consulting Group, said, 'The market leader, Amazon, built its position with a closed device, Kindle, which is limited to reading and buying eBooks. It will be interesting to see how well it stacks up against Google's strategy of delivering e-book capabilities via the Web to any device that can connect to the Internet. This gives Google a vastly larger addressable market than what Amazon has built up with Kindle so far.'"</i> The price per book will be set by the publishers, Google says. Google willl turn over 45\% of what they take in to the publisher and "the vast majority" of the rest to retailers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>CWmike writes " Google announced on Thursday that next year it 's launching an online e-book store called Google Editions where users will be able to buy digital books that can be read on a range of gadgets , including e-book readers , laptops , and cell phones .
Press reports out of Germany , where it was announced , note that Google plans to offer up half a million e-books from the get-go .
Dan Olds , an analyst with The Gabriel Consulting Group , said , 'The market leader , Amazon , built its position with a closed device , Kindle , which is limited to reading and buying eBooks .
It will be interesting to see how well it stacks up against Google 's strategy of delivering e-book capabilities via the Web to any device that can connect to the Internet .
This gives Google a vastly larger addressable market than what Amazon has built up with Kindle so far .
' " The price per book will be set by the publishers , Google says .
Google willl turn over 45 \ % of what they take in to the publisher and " the vast majority " of the rest to retailers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CWmike writes "Google announced on Thursday that next year it's launching an online e-book store called Google Editions where users will be able to buy digital books that can be read on a range of gadgets, including e-book readers, laptops, and cell phones.
Press reports out of Germany, where it was announced, note that Google plans to offer up half a million e-books from the get-go.
Dan Olds, an analyst with The Gabriel Consulting Group, said, 'The market leader, Amazon, built its position with a closed device, Kindle, which is limited to reading and buying eBooks.
It will be interesting to see how well it stacks up against Google's strategy of delivering e-book capabilities via the Web to any device that can connect to the Internet.
This gives Google a vastly larger addressable market than what Amazon has built up with Kindle so far.
'" The price per book will be set by the publishers, Google says.
Google willl turn over 45\% of what they take in to the publisher and "the vast majority" of the rest to retailers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769353</id>
	<title>The format is all that matters</title>
	<author>DrivingBear</author>
	<datestamp>1255711560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>As long as the books they sell are readable on any device they win in my book.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As long as the books they sell are readable on any device they win in my book .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As long as the books they sell are readable on any device they win in my book.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29770151</id>
	<title>Re:Out of print.</title>
	<author>Chyeld</author>
	<datestamp>1255715400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People are reactionary, and despite our best intentions, most of us are still luddites outside of our 'natural' habitat.</p><p>One might as well ask why people still believe cellphones will cause a second head to grow out of your neck, food irradiated for sterilization will give you super powers, and high voltage lines cause autism.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People are reactionary , and despite our best intentions , most of us are still luddites outside of our 'natural ' habitat.One might as well ask why people still believe cellphones will cause a second head to grow out of your neck , food irradiated for sterilization will give you super powers , and high voltage lines cause autism .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People are reactionary, and despite our best intentions, most of us are still luddites outside of our 'natural' habitat.One might as well ask why people still believe cellphones will cause a second head to grow out of your neck, food irradiated for sterilization will give you super powers, and high voltage lines cause autism.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29770903</id>
	<title>See you later, Amazon</title>
	<author>93 Escort Wagon</author>
	<datestamp>1255719240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You looked fairly good out there, but practice is over - it's the big guy's turn on the field.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You looked fairly good out there , but practice is over - it 's the big guy 's turn on the field .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You looked fairly good out there, but practice is over - it's the big guy's turn on the field.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29770799</id>
	<title>Re:Kindle screen</title>
	<author>Seumas</author>
	<datestamp>1255718580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The kindle part, sure. But if you're a person of "culture and class and refinement", you probably only write with a quill pen and light your home by candle.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The kindle part , sure .
But if you 're a person of " culture and class and refinement " , you probably only write with a quill pen and light your home by candle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The kindle part, sure.
But if you're a person of "culture and class and refinement", you probably only write with a quill pen and light your home by candle.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29771737</id>
	<title>Re:what's the DRM story?</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1255723560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As long as it open enough to be used on any system (within reason) that's all that matters. Supporting Lynx is unnecessary.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As long as it open enough to be used on any system ( within reason ) that 's all that matters .
Supporting Lynx is unnecessary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As long as it open enough to be used on any system (within reason) that's all that matters.
Supporting Lynx is unnecessary.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769423</id>
	<title>The price matters</title>
	<author>dtzitz</author>
	<datestamp>1255711860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>What they charge per book matters. I am not sure how many people you are going to get to buy an e-book for the same price that they could pick up a physical copy at their local book store or less if they bought it used on amazon. I am going to hold judgment until I see some prices.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What they charge per book matters .
I am not sure how many people you are going to get to buy an e-book for the same price that they could pick up a physical copy at their local book store or less if they bought it used on amazon .
I am going to hold judgment until I see some prices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What they charge per book matters.
I am not sure how many people you are going to get to buy an e-book for the same price that they could pick up a physical copy at their local book store or less if they bought it used on amazon.
I am going to hold judgment until I see some prices.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769639</id>
	<title>Re:what does browser based mean?</title>
	<author>Shagg</author>
	<datestamp>1255712940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Usually, it means the eBook store is browser based.  You go online, buy, and download the eBook via your browser.  After that you can open and read the file on any device that supports the format (generally with DRM).  They probably know what books you've bought from them since it's tied to your account, but I don't think they're going to be monitoring where or how long you read a particular eBook for.  I don't see how they could, since they don't control the devices.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Usually , it means the eBook store is browser based .
You go online , buy , and download the eBook via your browser .
After that you can open and read the file on any device that supports the format ( generally with DRM ) .
They probably know what books you 've bought from them since it 's tied to your account , but I do n't think they 're going to be monitoring where or how long you read a particular eBook for .
I do n't see how they could , since they do n't control the devices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Usually, it means the eBook store is browser based.
You go online, buy, and download the eBook via your browser.
After that you can open and read the file on any device that supports the format (generally with DRM).
They probably know what books you've bought from them since it's tied to your account, but I don't think they're going to be monitoring where or how long you read a particular eBook for.
I don't see how they could, since they don't control the devices.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29770337</id>
	<title>Re:Out of print.</title>
	<author>JustinOpinion</author>
	<datestamp>1255716360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It boggles my mind why Google scanning out-of-print books is kicking up a shit storm with book publishers though. I mean if the books are so marketable why are they out-of-print in the first place?</p></div><p>Well the publisher's positions are not necessarily totally irrational. They are worried that if people have easy access to all these out-of-print books, they will purchase fewer new titles. Even though there isn't enough profit to be made by publishing many of these individual titles, the aggregate of all out-of-print books may capture enough "mindshare" to cut into the interest in books that are in print.<br> <br>

Now, I don't think this is a great argument. It basically relies on copyright and old-style inefficiencies to prop-up modern sales. It also makes many assumptions about people's purchasing behaviors. Frankly I'd rather copyright terms just be shorter, so that what Google is doing is unambiguously acceptable. But the publishers are "simply" trying to protect their profits. (The irrational part is that this isn't the best way to make money. Embracing new technologies and being consumer-friendly is, I believe, a more effective strategy.)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It boggles my mind why Google scanning out-of-print books is kicking up a shit storm with book publishers though .
I mean if the books are so marketable why are they out-of-print in the first place ? Well the publisher 's positions are not necessarily totally irrational .
They are worried that if people have easy access to all these out-of-print books , they will purchase fewer new titles .
Even though there is n't enough profit to be made by publishing many of these individual titles , the aggregate of all out-of-print books may capture enough " mindshare " to cut into the interest in books that are in print .
Now , I do n't think this is a great argument .
It basically relies on copyright and old-style inefficiencies to prop-up modern sales .
It also makes many assumptions about people 's purchasing behaviors .
Frankly I 'd rather copyright terms just be shorter , so that what Google is doing is unambiguously acceptable .
But the publishers are " simply " trying to protect their profits .
( The irrational part is that this is n't the best way to make money .
Embracing new technologies and being consumer-friendly is , I believe , a more effective strategy .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It boggles my mind why Google scanning out-of-print books is kicking up a shit storm with book publishers though.
I mean if the books are so marketable why are they out-of-print in the first place?Well the publisher's positions are not necessarily totally irrational.
They are worried that if people have easy access to all these out-of-print books, they will purchase fewer new titles.
Even though there isn't enough profit to be made by publishing many of these individual titles, the aggregate of all out-of-print books may capture enough "mindshare" to cut into the interest in books that are in print.
Now, I don't think this is a great argument.
It basically relies on copyright and old-style inefficiencies to prop-up modern sales.
It also makes many assumptions about people's purchasing behaviors.
Frankly I'd rather copyright terms just be shorter, so that what Google is doing is unambiguously acceptable.
But the publishers are "simply" trying to protect their profits.
(The irrational part is that this isn't the best way to make money.
Embracing new technologies and being consumer-friendly is, I believe, a more effective strategy.
)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769861</id>
	<title>Re:The price matters</title>
	<author>Chyeld</author>
	<datestamp>1255714020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Though I can't find the article from work, it interested me last night while I was reading up on Google Editions that one of the articles indicated that there would be the option to convert your book into a paperback at some undetermined price.</p><p>For me, that sounds like the best of both worlds.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Though I ca n't find the article from work , it interested me last night while I was reading up on Google Editions that one of the articles indicated that there would be the option to convert your book into a paperback at some undetermined price.For me , that sounds like the best of both worlds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Though I can't find the article from work, it interested me last night while I was reading up on Google Editions that one of the articles indicated that there would be the option to convert your book into a paperback at some undetermined price.For me, that sounds like the best of both worlds.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769361</id>
	<title>what's the DRM story?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255711620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and what file format are they?  they say 'browser based'.  does that include lynx?</p><p>how OPEN is this, really?  anyone know?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and what file format are they ?
they say 'browser based' .
does that include lynx ? how OPEN is this , really ?
anyone know ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and what file format are they?
they say 'browser based'.
does that include lynx?how OPEN is this, really?
anyone know?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769665</id>
	<title>Re:amazon vs. Google</title>
	<author>trickyD1ck</author>
	<datestamp>1255713000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Shareholders in turn bake that money into pies. That is KKKapitalism for you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Shareholders in turn bake that money into pies .
That is KKKapitalism for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Shareholders in turn bake that money into pies.
That is KKKapitalism for you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769479</id>
	<title>Re:amazon vs. Google</title>
	<author>cryfreedomlove</author>
	<datestamp>1255712100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Amazon just makes its shareholders rich.</p></div><p>What's wrong with that?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Amazon just makes its shareholders rich.What 's wrong with that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Amazon just makes its shareholders rich.What's wrong with that?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29771111</id>
	<title>Re:Kindle screen</title>
	<author>Calithulu</author>
	<datestamp>1255720260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As an educated person of culture and refinement I prefer using my eBook reader for everything, from <a href="http://www.opentextbook.org/category/physics/" title="opentextbook.org">physics text books</a> [opentextbook.org] to philosophy to fiction. It is difficult to travel with a few heavy books (and I'm always reading a few different books), but a 285 gram eBook reader can fit in my pocket wherever I go and carry an entire library with me. In a pinch, I'll use a phone.</p><p>While I can understand a preference for paper (it is what most of us grew up with, after all), the conveniences of eBooks are already outweighing the advantages of paper. This is especially true of dedicated eBook readers with e-ink displays. The one downside is the requirement of electricity (to recharge the batteries), but there are<a href="http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1\%7C328\%7C49497\%7C1154318&amp;id=1157521" title="defender.com">solar powered chargers</a> [defender.com] to make remote use possible.</p><p>If the insidious DRM and vendor lock-in of the Kindle is a problem, I suggest getting one of the <a href="http://www.mybebook.com/index.php?ref=151&amp;affiliate\_banner\_id=7" title="mybebook.com">BeBook from Endless Ideas</a> [mybebook.com] and loading openInkpot firmware on it. Even the Sony PRS-505 and PRS-600 are more open than the Kindle and the PRS-600 offers a touch screen to boot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As an educated person of culture and refinement I prefer using my eBook reader for everything , from physics text books [ opentextbook.org ] to philosophy to fiction .
It is difficult to travel with a few heavy books ( and I 'm always reading a few different books ) , but a 285 gram eBook reader can fit in my pocket wherever I go and carry an entire library with me .
In a pinch , I 'll use a phone.While I can understand a preference for paper ( it is what most of us grew up with , after all ) , the conveniences of eBooks are already outweighing the advantages of paper .
This is especially true of dedicated eBook readers with e-ink displays .
The one downside is the requirement of electricity ( to recharge the batteries ) , but there aresolar powered chargers [ defender.com ] to make remote use possible.If the insidious DRM and vendor lock-in of the Kindle is a problem , I suggest getting one of the BeBook from Endless Ideas [ mybebook.com ] and loading openInkpot firmware on it .
Even the Sony PRS-505 and PRS-600 are more open than the Kindle and the PRS-600 offers a touch screen to boot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As an educated person of culture and refinement I prefer using my eBook reader for everything, from physics text books [opentextbook.org] to philosophy to fiction.
It is difficult to travel with a few heavy books (and I'm always reading a few different books), but a 285 gram eBook reader can fit in my pocket wherever I go and carry an entire library with me.
In a pinch, I'll use a phone.While I can understand a preference for paper (it is what most of us grew up with, after all), the conveniences of eBooks are already outweighing the advantages of paper.
This is especially true of dedicated eBook readers with e-ink displays.
The one downside is the requirement of electricity (to recharge the batteries), but there aresolar powered chargers [defender.com] to make remote use possible.If the insidious DRM and vendor lock-in of the Kindle is a problem, I suggest getting one of the BeBook from Endless Ideas [mybebook.com] and loading openInkpot firmware on it.
Even the Sony PRS-505 and PRS-600 are more open than the Kindle and the PRS-600 offers a touch screen to boot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769641</id>
	<title>Re:amazon vs. Google</title>
	<author>Shakrai</author>
	<datestamp>1255712940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Amazon just makes its shareholders rich.</p></div><p>Did I miss the headline where Google bought back all outstanding shares and converted itself into a non-profit corporation?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Amazon just makes its shareholders rich.Did I miss the headline where Google bought back all outstanding shares and converted itself into a non-profit corporation ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Amazon just makes its shareholders rich.Did I miss the headline where Google bought back all outstanding shares and converted itself into a non-profit corporation?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29770925</id>
	<title>Re:amazon vs. Google</title>
	<author>glwtta</author>
	<datestamp>1255719360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>as well as Amazon's statistically improbable phrases (SIP) algorithm</i>
<br> <br>
The SIPs seem to be nothing more than simple collocations - it's a fun feature, but how exactly is it innovative?</htmltext>
<tokenext>as well as Amazon 's statistically improbable phrases ( SIP ) algorithm The SIPs seem to be nothing more than simple collocations - it 's a fun feature , but how exactly is it innovative ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>as well as Amazon's statistically improbable phrases (SIP) algorithm
 
The SIPs seem to be nothing more than simple collocations - it's a fun feature, but how exactly is it innovative?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769753</id>
	<title>Re:The price matters</title>
	<author>Zerth</author>
	<datestamp>1255713480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yah, I thought the kindle/ebook hardware was rather lame until I noticed how much paperbacks are lately.  Getting books still in hardback for ~15\% over paperback(or cheaper, for trade size), it didn't seem so bad.</p><p>There are a few authors I might always buy in hardback, but if paperback prices ever go over ebook prices, I'd probably never going to buy another paperback.  But then I'm the kind that rarely sells back a book.</p><p>PS, why do they use trade size for books?  I get why they do it for advance copies, since it is formatted the same as the hardback, but why for retail?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yah , I thought the kindle/ebook hardware was rather lame until I noticed how much paperbacks are lately .
Getting books still in hardback for ~ 15 \ % over paperback ( or cheaper , for trade size ) , it did n't seem so bad.There are a few authors I might always buy in hardback , but if paperback prices ever go over ebook prices , I 'd probably never going to buy another paperback .
But then I 'm the kind that rarely sells back a book.PS , why do they use trade size for books ?
I get why they do it for advance copies , since it is formatted the same as the hardback , but why for retail ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yah, I thought the kindle/ebook hardware was rather lame until I noticed how much paperbacks are lately.
Getting books still in hardback for ~15\% over paperback(or cheaper, for trade size), it didn't seem so bad.There are a few authors I might always buy in hardback, but if paperback prices ever go over ebook prices, I'd probably never going to buy another paperback.
But then I'm the kind that rarely sells back a book.PS, why do they use trade size for books?
I get why they do it for advance copies, since it is formatted the same as the hardback, but why for retail?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29770015</id>
	<title>Re:Why are they paying retailers?</title>
	<author>Chyeld</author>
	<datestamp>1255714860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google isn't creating a bookstore, they are creating a backend for bookstores to use.</p><p>In otherwords they hope to have you walk into a Barnes &amp; Noble, Waldenbooks, or whatever brick and motar stores are still out there in the era of Amazon.com, and/or visit these company's websites, and purchase a "Google Editions" version of the book as opposed to having their own dedicated webfront like Amazon does.</p><p>Man the above sentence is tourtured grammer, but I can't make it come out any better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google is n't creating a bookstore , they are creating a backend for bookstores to use.In otherwords they hope to have you walk into a Barnes &amp; Noble , Waldenbooks , or whatever brick and motar stores are still out there in the era of Amazon.com , and/or visit these company 's websites , and purchase a " Google Editions " version of the book as opposed to having their own dedicated webfront like Amazon does.Man the above sentence is tourtured grammer , but I ca n't make it come out any better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google isn't creating a bookstore, they are creating a backend for bookstores to use.In otherwords they hope to have you walk into a Barnes &amp; Noble, Waldenbooks, or whatever brick and motar stores are still out there in the era of Amazon.com, and/or visit these company's websites, and purchase a "Google Editions" version of the book as opposed to having their own dedicated webfront like Amazon does.Man the above sentence is tourtured grammer, but I can't make it come out any better.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769417</id>
	<title>what does browser based mean?</title>
	<author>e**(i pi)-1</author>
	<datestamp>1255711860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>obvious questions:
if it is browser based, can one read the book without being online?
Can one download the book temporarily or for good? Are records kept
from where and how long a reader reads a book and what kind of books
are read? Will this be tied to your online profile and get you
reader specific ads?</htmltext>
<tokenext>obvious questions : if it is browser based , can one read the book without being online ?
Can one download the book temporarily or for good ?
Are records kept from where and how long a reader reads a book and what kind of books are read ?
Will this be tied to your online profile and get you reader specific ads ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>obvious questions:
if it is browser based, can one read the book without being online?
Can one download the book temporarily or for good?
Are records kept
from where and how long a reader reads a book and what kind of books
are read?
Will this be tied to your online profile and get you
reader specific ads?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769445</id>
	<title>Re:Why are they paying retailers?</title>
	<author>Disgruntled Goats</author>
	<datestamp>1255711980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I don't understand why they would be paying "the vast majority" (of whats left after paying the publisher) to retailers?

I haven't read the article yet, but either the summary is way off, misleading, or it just doesn't make sense!</p></div><p>Because the retailers want to be paid for their books that Google is selling from them?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't understand why they would be paying " the vast majority " ( of whats left after paying the publisher ) to retailers ?
I have n't read the article yet , but either the summary is way off , misleading , or it just does n't make sense ! Because the retailers want to be paid for their books that Google is selling from them ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't understand why they would be paying "the vast majority" (of whats left after paying the publisher) to retailers?
I haven't read the article yet, but either the summary is way off, misleading, or it just doesn't make sense!Because the retailers want to be paid for their books that Google is selling from them?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769727</id>
	<title>Out of print.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255713360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I like the fact that Google are focussing on out-of-print books.<br>It boggles my mind why Google scanning out-of-print books is kicking up a shit storm with book publishers though. I mean if the books are so marketable why are they out-of-print in the first place?<br>Also, where else would I go to get an out-of-print book? perhaps a used book store but the publishers dont get a cut of that either but don't seem to mind those. At least with Google selling on their behalf they could arrange some kickback.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I like the fact that Google are focussing on out-of-print books.It boggles my mind why Google scanning out-of-print books is kicking up a shit storm with book publishers though .
I mean if the books are so marketable why are they out-of-print in the first place ? Also , where else would I go to get an out-of-print book ?
perhaps a used book store but the publishers dont get a cut of that either but do n't seem to mind those .
At least with Google selling on their behalf they could arrange some kickback .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like the fact that Google are focussing on out-of-print books.It boggles my mind why Google scanning out-of-print books is kicking up a shit storm with book publishers though.
I mean if the books are so marketable why are they out-of-print in the first place?Also, where else would I go to get an out-of-print book?
perhaps a used book store but the publishers dont get a cut of that either but don't seem to mind those.
At least with Google selling on their behalf they could arrange some kickback.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769927</id>
	<title>Re:what's the DRM story?</title>
	<author>Chyeld</author>
	<datestamp>1255714380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why not <a href="http://www.google.com/books?id=b00EAAAAMBAJ&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;source=gbs\_hp#" title="google.com">take a peek</a> [google.com] and answer your questions directly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not take a peek [ google.com ] and answer your questions directly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not take a peek [google.com] and answer your questions directly.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29772191</id>
	<title>Re:hy I will never buy en eboor reader.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255726080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> Any other questions I can answer for you?</p></div></blockquote><p>Yes.  Will you be writing more in a week or two?  And if I like the style, could you make it longer?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Any other questions I can answer for you ? Yes .
Will you be writing more in a week or two ?
And if I like the style , could you make it longer ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Any other questions I can answer for you?Yes.
Will you be writing more in a week or two?
And if I like the style, could you make it longer?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29772145</id>
	<title>Re:Crappy Displays</title>
	<author>Lincolnshire Poacher</author>
	<datestamp>1255725780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; can we please have a reader that doesn't suck?</p><p>Ta-da!</p><p><a href="http://www.iliadreader.co.uk/product.digital\_reader\_1000s.htm" title="iliadreader.co.uk">http://www.iliadreader.co.uk/product.digital\_reader\_1000s.htm</a> [iliadreader.co.uk]</p><p>And it's A4 sized...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; can we please have a reader that does n't suck ? Ta-da ! http : //www.iliadreader.co.uk/product.digital \ _reader \ _1000s.htm [ iliadreader.co.uk ] And it 's A4 sized.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; can we please have a reader that doesn't suck?Ta-da!http://www.iliadreader.co.uk/product.digital\_reader\_1000s.htm [iliadreader.co.uk]And it's A4 sized...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29774921</id>
	<title>Re:what's the DRM story?</title>
	<author>AmberBlackCat</author>
	<datestamp>1255702800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My guess is you pay your fee and when you login on Google's site, you get webpages that show the pages of the books. And that's going to work until they figure out how easy it is to share your login ID and password with your buddy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My guess is you pay your fee and when you login on Google 's site , you get webpages that show the pages of the books .
And that 's going to work until they figure out how easy it is to share your login ID and password with your buddy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My guess is you pay your fee and when you login on Google's site, you get webpages that show the pages of the books.
And that's going to work until they figure out how easy it is to share your login ID and password with your buddy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769477</id>
	<title>DRM sux</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255712100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At least upgrade to <a href="http://www.floodgap.com/retrotech/machten/mosaic/" title="floodgap.com">Mosaic</a> [floodgap.com]. I'm just disappointed that Google isn't available on <a href="gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/" title="floodgap.com">Gopher</a> [floodgap.com], and I can read ebooks just fine as plain text, this is how we've been doing it for many many years and the format Project Gutenberg started out using. Some people even host their <a href="gopher://gopher.quux.org/" title="quux.org">blogs</a> [quux.org] on gopher.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At least upgrade to Mosaic [ floodgap.com ] .
I 'm just disappointed that Google is n't available on Gopher [ floodgap.com ] , and I can read ebooks just fine as plain text , this is how we 've been doing it for many many years and the format Project Gutenberg started out using .
Some people even host their blogs [ quux.org ] on gopher .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least upgrade to Mosaic [floodgap.com].
I'm just disappointed that Google isn't available on Gopher [floodgap.com], and I can read ebooks just fine as plain text, this is how we've been doing it for many many years and the format Project Gutenberg started out using.
Some people even host their blogs [quux.org] on gopher.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769879</id>
	<title>O'Reilly's eBook Site</title>
	<author>Bigbutt</author>
	<datestamp>1255714080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I actually like O'Reilly's Safari site for my eBooks. It's accessible to my iPhone as well as my various systems. As a consultant, it works better than dragging books around and the books are available for download. It's also very readable as each chapter is a single "page" vs many reference books I have are multi-column.</p><p>Having a similar Google site where the books are available whereever I am assuming 'net access plus it's off-line so I can read it when I'm out of range sounds a lot better than the Kindle at least for my purposes.</p><p>[John]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I actually like O'Reilly 's Safari site for my eBooks .
It 's accessible to my iPhone as well as my various systems .
As a consultant , it works better than dragging books around and the books are available for download .
It 's also very readable as each chapter is a single " page " vs many reference books I have are multi-column.Having a similar Google site where the books are available whereever I am assuming 'net access plus it 's off-line so I can read it when I 'm out of range sounds a lot better than the Kindle at least for my purposes .
[ John ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I actually like O'Reilly's Safari site for my eBooks.
It's accessible to my iPhone as well as my various systems.
As a consultant, it works better than dragging books around and the books are available for download.
It's also very readable as each chapter is a single "page" vs many reference books I have are multi-column.Having a similar Google site where the books are available whereever I am assuming 'net access plus it's off-line so I can read it when I'm out of range sounds a lot better than the Kindle at least for my purposes.
[John]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29773519</id>
	<title>Re:The format is all that matters</title>
	<author>innocent\_white\_lamb</author>
	<datestamp>1255690920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>netbook user (and enjoying 7 hours of battery life)</i> <br>
&nbsp; <br>How do you get that?  My Acer Aspire One (the model with a 160gb hard drive) doesn't quite make it to 2 hours on a charge.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>netbook user ( and enjoying 7 hours of battery life )   How do you get that ?
My Acer Aspire One ( the model with a 160gb hard drive ) does n't quite make it to 2 hours on a charge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>netbook user (and enjoying 7 hours of battery life) 
  How do you get that?
My Acer Aspire One (the model with a 160gb hard drive) doesn't quite make it to 2 hours on a charge.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769405</id>
	<title>Re:The format is all that matters</title>
	<author>eldavojohn</author>
	<datestamp>1255711800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>As long as the books they sell are readable on any device they win in my book.</p></div><p>From the article:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The books bought from Google, and its partners, would be accessible on <b>any gadget that has a Web browser</b>, including smartphones, netbooks and personal computers and laptops. A book would be accessible offline after the first time it was accessed.</p></div><p>I believe the Kindle has an experimental web browser<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... although why pay the premium if Google can offer what Amazon offers?  Being a netbook user (and enjoying 7 hours of battery life) I'm very interested in this.  My netbook was maybe $75 more than the Kindle.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As long as the books they sell are readable on any device they win in my book.From the article : The books bought from Google , and its partners , would be accessible on any gadget that has a Web browser , including smartphones , netbooks and personal computers and laptops .
A book would be accessible offline after the first time it was accessed.I believe the Kindle has an experimental web browser ... although why pay the premium if Google can offer what Amazon offers ?
Being a netbook user ( and enjoying 7 hours of battery life ) I 'm very interested in this .
My netbook was maybe $ 75 more than the Kindle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As long as the books they sell are readable on any device they win in my book.From the article:The books bought from Google, and its partners, would be accessible on any gadget that has a Web browser, including smartphones, netbooks and personal computers and laptops.
A book would be accessible offline after the first time it was accessed.I believe the Kindle has an experimental web browser ... although why pay the premium if Google can offer what Amazon offers?
Being a netbook user (and enjoying 7 hours of battery life) I'm very interested in this.
My netbook was maybe $75 more than the Kindle.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769635</id>
	<title>Re:amazon vs. Google</title>
	<author>buchner.johannes</author>
	<datestamp>1255712880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>Amazon just makes its shareholders rich.</p></div><p>What's wrong with that?</p></div><p>Nothing is wrong with that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Amazon just makes its shareholders rich.What 's wrong with that ? Nothing is wrong with that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Amazon just makes its shareholders rich.What's wrong with that?Nothing is wrong with that.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29778847</id>
	<title>55\%? For what? And what about the *authors*?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1255806600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know if I understand this correctly. Are they saying that the vast majority of 55\% of the price to to "retailers" who don't have anything to do with the whole thing at all. Maybe 10\% go to Google, who do nothing more than offer a simple automated service, that costs next to nothing per book sale. And 45\% go to publishing companies. Who themselves only did printing... oh wait...</p><p>What do the *authors* actually get? When I see what they get in the music sector, 5\% could be the absolute maximum imaginable?</p><p>Yeah. Great deal!</p><p>I wait until some popular authors stop all that, tell them to go fuck themselves, and just sell PDFs on their own websites.<br>It's already happening with big musicians.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know if I understand this correctly .
Are they saying that the vast majority of 55 \ % of the price to to " retailers " who do n't have anything to do with the whole thing at all .
Maybe 10 \ % go to Google , who do nothing more than offer a simple automated service , that costs next to nothing per book sale .
And 45 \ % go to publishing companies .
Who themselves only did printing... oh wait...What do the * authors * actually get ?
When I see what they get in the music sector , 5 \ % could be the absolute maximum imaginable ? Yeah .
Great deal ! I wait until some popular authors stop all that , tell them to go fuck themselves , and just sell PDFs on their own websites.It 's already happening with big musicians .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know if I understand this correctly.
Are they saying that the vast majority of 55\% of the price to to "retailers" who don't have anything to do with the whole thing at all.
Maybe 10\% go to Google, who do nothing more than offer a simple automated service, that costs next to nothing per book sale.
And 45\% go to publishing companies.
Who themselves only did printing... oh wait...What do the *authors* actually get?
When I see what they get in the music sector, 5\% could be the absolute maximum imaginable?Yeah.
Great deal!I wait until some popular authors stop all that, tell them to go fuck themselves, and just sell PDFs on their own websites.It's already happening with big musicians.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29770291</id>
	<title>hy I will never buy en eboor reader.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255716120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>if it is browser based, can one read the book without being online?</p></div><p>Buy a paperback and don't worry about it.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Can one download the book temporarily or for good??</p></div><p>Buy a paperback and don't worry about it.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Are records kept from where and how long a reader reads a book and what kind of books are read??</p></div><p>Buy a paperback and don't worry about it.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Will this be tied to your online profile and get you reader specific ads?</p></div><p>Buy a paperback and don't worry about it.</p><p>Any other questions I can answer for you?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>if it is browser based , can one read the book without being online ? Buy a paperback and do n't worry about it.Can one download the book temporarily or for good ?
? Buy a paperback and do n't worry about it.Are records kept from where and how long a reader reads a book and what kind of books are read ?
? Buy a paperback and do n't worry about it.Will this be tied to your online profile and get you reader specific ads ? Buy a paperback and do n't worry about it.Any other questions I can answer for you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>if it is browser based, can one read the book without being online?Buy a paperback and don't worry about it.Can one download the book temporarily or for good?
?Buy a paperback and don't worry about it.Are records kept from where and how long a reader reads a book and what kind of books are read?
?Buy a paperback and don't worry about it.Will this be tied to your online profile and get you reader specific ads?Buy a paperback and don't worry about it.Any other questions I can answer for you?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29771019</id>
	<title>Re:The price matters</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255719900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's way too dear for a tiny file. ebooks are doomed until fodder like novels is under $1.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's way too dear for a tiny file .
ebooks are doomed until fodder like novels is under $ 1 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's way too dear for a tiny file.
ebooks are doomed until fodder like novels is under $1.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769901</id>
	<title>Re:The format is all that matters</title>
	<author>jank1887</author>
	<datestamp>1255714200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"any gadget that has a Web browser"</p><p>hmmm... my LG VX8350 has opera mini... War and Peace may lead to some tired scrolly-thumbs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" any gadget that has a Web browser " hmmm... my LG VX8350 has opera mini... War and Peace may lead to some tired scrolly-thumbs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"any gadget that has a Web browser"hmmm... my LG VX8350 has opera mini... War and Peace may lead to some tired scrolly-thumbs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29772667</id>
	<title>if/when Apple enters the fray ...</title>
	<author>peter303</author>
	<datestamp>1255685640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In the same way Apple clarified the emusic market with the iTune store, it might be able to clean up the conflicted ebook market too. Before iTune priracy was the norm and content was scattered with uneven qaulity.
<br> <br> Wired had an article today that Apple was changing it online store models to facilitate the sale of content on iPod/iTouch devices.  And its ebook hardware may be a giant iTouch/iTablet in the near future.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the same way Apple clarified the emusic market with the iTune store , it might be able to clean up the conflicted ebook market too .
Before iTune priracy was the norm and content was scattered with uneven qaulity .
Wired had an article today that Apple was changing it online store models to facilitate the sale of content on iPod/iTouch devices .
And its ebook hardware may be a giant iTouch/iTablet in the near future .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the same way Apple clarified the emusic market with the iTune store, it might be able to clean up the conflicted ebook market too.
Before iTune priracy was the norm and content was scattered with uneven qaulity.
Wired had an article today that Apple was changing it online store models to facilitate the sale of content on iPod/iTouch devices.
And its ebook hardware may be a giant iTouch/iTablet in the near future.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769797</id>
	<title>Re:Why are they paying retailers?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255713720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was confused too.  The summary is missing this key piece of information:<p><div class="quote"><p>"Google Editions allows retail partners to sell their books, especially those who haven't invested in a digital platform," he said. "We expect the majority (of customers) will go to retail partners not to Google. We are a wholesaler, a book distributor."</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was confused too .
The summary is missing this key piece of information : " Google Editions allows retail partners to sell their books , especially those who have n't invested in a digital platform , " he said .
" We expect the majority ( of customers ) will go to retail partners not to Google .
We are a wholesaler , a book distributor .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was confused too.
The summary is missing this key piece of information:"Google Editions allows retail partners to sell their books, especially those who haven't invested in a digital platform," he said.
"We expect the majority (of customers) will go to retail partners not to Google.
We are a wholesaler, a book distributor.
"
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29775837</id>
	<title>Real data about optimal length of copyright</title>
	<author>Mathinker</author>
	<datestamp>1255718220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Sometimes reprinting is very good business.</p><p>The post you reply to doesn't deny that. The only thing which would change if copyright lapsed on out-of-print and other orphan works would be (cut to dramatic drum-roll) <i>who</i> profits from the reprinting, and how much.</p><p>For some real data on how interesting (or not)  it is to maintain a copyright for more than 28 years, see <a href="http://volokh.com/2009/10/05/copyright-and-morals/" title="volokh.com" rel="nofollow">Bill Patry's post at The Volokh Conspiracy</a> [volokh.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Sometimes reprinting is very good business.The post you reply to does n't deny that .
The only thing which would change if copyright lapsed on out-of-print and other orphan works would be ( cut to dramatic drum-roll ) who profits from the reprinting , and how much.For some real data on how interesting ( or not ) it is to maintain a copyright for more than 28 years , see Bill Patry 's post at The Volokh Conspiracy [ volokh.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Sometimes reprinting is very good business.The post you reply to doesn't deny that.
The only thing which would change if copyright lapsed on out-of-print and other orphan works would be (cut to dramatic drum-roll) who profits from the reprinting, and how much.For some real data on how interesting (or not)  it is to maintain a copyright for more than 28 years, see Bill Patry's post at The Volokh Conspiracy [volokh.com].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29775081</id>
	<title>Misinformation galore</title>
	<author>vanyel</author>
	<datestamp>1255704720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OK, only two points, but key:</p><p>1.  "web accessible" sounds to me like you don't get your book, you get the ability to view it as long as they keep it on their web server, rather like O'Reilly's Safari.  Which I subscribe to because it's really handy to be able to pop in and view a reference book at random instantly, but they're making a killing on me because I don't use it enough to really justify it (ironically, primarily because with google, I rarely need the tech books --- how did we *ever* get along without google?!?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-) ).  But for regular reading, I want my book where I know it'll always be there and I want it locally.</p><p>2.  They're repeating the BS that the Kindle can only use books from Amazon.  Only a couple of the 200+ books on mine were obtained from Amazon, and they are a couple that they released for free.  Even at that, I paid too much even then because they were first in a series where the rest are crippled.  I'm buying used paper in order to read the followons so I don't reward the publishers for being idiots.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OK , only two points , but key : 1 .
" web accessible " sounds to me like you do n't get your book , you get the ability to view it as long as they keep it on their web server , rather like O'Reilly 's Safari .
Which I subscribe to because it 's really handy to be able to pop in and view a reference book at random instantly , but they 're making a killing on me because I do n't use it enough to really justify it ( ironically , primarily because with google , I rarely need the tech books --- how did we * ever * get along without google ? ! ?
; - ) ) .
But for regular reading , I want my book where I know it 'll always be there and I want it locally.2 .
They 're repeating the BS that the Kindle can only use books from Amazon .
Only a couple of the 200 + books on mine were obtained from Amazon , and they are a couple that they released for free .
Even at that , I paid too much even then because they were first in a series where the rest are crippled .
I 'm buying used paper in order to read the followons so I do n't reward the publishers for being idiots .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OK, only two points, but key:1.
"web accessible" sounds to me like you don't get your book, you get the ability to view it as long as they keep it on their web server, rather like O'Reilly's Safari.
Which I subscribe to because it's really handy to be able to pop in and view a reference book at random instantly, but they're making a killing on me because I don't use it enough to really justify it (ironically, primarily because with google, I rarely need the tech books --- how did we *ever* get along without google?!?
;-) ).
But for regular reading, I want my book where I know it'll always be there and I want it locally.2.
They're repeating the BS that the Kindle can only use books from Amazon.
Only a couple of the 200+ books on mine were obtained from Amazon, and they are a couple that they released for free.
Even at that, I paid too much even then because they were first in a series where the rest are crippled.
I'm buying used paper in order to read the followons so I don't reward the publishers for being idiots.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769549</id>
	<title>Re:what's the DRM story?</title>
	<author>durrr</author>
	<datestamp>1255712400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Probably very open, DRM on ebooks allowed on ordinary computers is entirely pointless, optic character recognition on screen captures would render any DRM system dead on arrival. Google should know this.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Probably very open , DRM on ebooks allowed on ordinary computers is entirely pointless , optic character recognition on screen captures would render any DRM system dead on arrival .
Google should know this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Probably very open, DRM on ebooks allowed on ordinary computers is entirely pointless, optic character recognition on screen captures would render any DRM system dead on arrival.
Google should know this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29770983</id>
	<title>Re:DRM sux</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255719660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>mosaic doesn't run on text-based terms, does it?</p><p>seriously - lynx compat is a useful thing for when you don't NEED graphics.  a lot of books would read just fine even if the images were omitted.</p><p>the thing about lynx compat means your browser usually can be very lightweight, so even if you like graphics, you won't be bogged down with a lot of 'scripty' slowdowns.  I hate scripty things.  for book content, push static data to me and don't expect me to *compute* a damned thing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>mosaic does n't run on text-based terms , does it ? seriously - lynx compat is a useful thing for when you do n't NEED graphics .
a lot of books would read just fine even if the images were omitted.the thing about lynx compat means your browser usually can be very lightweight , so even if you like graphics , you wo n't be bogged down with a lot of 'scripty ' slowdowns .
I hate scripty things .
for book content , push static data to me and do n't expect me to * compute * a damned thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>mosaic doesn't run on text-based terms, does it?seriously - lynx compat is a useful thing for when you don't NEED graphics.
a lot of books would read just fine even if the images were omitted.the thing about lynx compat means your browser usually can be very lightweight, so even if you like graphics, you won't be bogged down with a lot of 'scripty' slowdowns.
I hate scripty things.
for book content, push static data to me and don't expect me to *compute* a damned thing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29771383</id>
	<title>Re:amazon vs. Google</title>
	<author>WNight</author>
	<datestamp>1255721580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What in that recommends them to me?</p><p>Google made a cool search engine, Amazon made an e-store. With Google's free products I can do neat things. With Amazon's free... well, they don't have any.</p><p>So yeah, all their profit goes to the owners and as I'm not one there's no motivation to use them or hope for their success.</p><p>No, profits aren't evil, but an excessive focus on money will blind you to supporting the community and providing products people like. And that's not evil, just stupid. What's Amazon ever done for me?</p><p>I'll be checking out Google's offering while they think of something.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What in that recommends them to me ? Google made a cool search engine , Amazon made an e-store .
With Google 's free products I can do neat things .
With Amazon 's free... well , they do n't have any.So yeah , all their profit goes to the owners and as I 'm not one there 's no motivation to use them or hope for their success.No , profits are n't evil , but an excessive focus on money will blind you to supporting the community and providing products people like .
And that 's not evil , just stupid .
What 's Amazon ever done for me ? I 'll be checking out Google 's offering while they think of something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What in that recommends them to me?Google made a cool search engine, Amazon made an e-store.
With Google's free products I can do neat things.
With Amazon's free... well, they don't have any.So yeah, all their profit goes to the owners and as I'm not one there's no motivation to use them or hope for their success.No, profits aren't evil, but an excessive focus on money will blind you to supporting the community and providing products people like.
And that's not evil, just stupid.
What's Amazon ever done for me?I'll be checking out Google's offering while they think of something.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769553</id>
	<title>From TFA:</title>
	<author>denzacar</author>
	<datestamp>1255712460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>A book would be accessible offline after the first time it was accessed.</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A book would be accessible offline after the first time it was accessed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A book would be accessible offline after the first time it was accessed.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769343</id>
	<title>How small is it?!?!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255711500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda has a penis so tiny that it takes an electron microscope and a pair of nano tweezers to jack himself off.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Rob " CmdrTaco " Malda has a penis so tiny that it takes an electron microscope and a pair of nano tweezers to jack himself off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda has a penis so tiny that it takes an electron microscope and a pair of nano tweezers to jack himself off.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29771313</id>
	<title>Re:Out of print.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255721280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It boggles my mind why Google scanning out-of-print books is kicking up a shit storm with book publishers though.</p><p>Because they would compete with the books currently being sold in the bookstore.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It boggles my mind why Google scanning out-of-print books is kicking up a shit storm with book publishers though.Because they would compete with the books currently being sold in the bookstore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It boggles my mind why Google scanning out-of-print books is kicking up a shit storm with book publishers though.Because they would compete with the books currently being sold in the bookstore.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769745</id>
	<title>Re:The price matters</title>
	<author>rossdee</author>
	<datestamp>1255713480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Baen sells individual books for $5 to $6 each, when the cheapest paperbacks today are $7.99 plus tax.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Baen sells individual books for $ 5 to $ 6 each , when the cheapest paperbacks today are $ 7.99 plus tax .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Baen sells individual books for $5 to $6 each, when the cheapest paperbacks today are $7.99 plus tax.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29773713</id>
	<title>Re:what's the DRM story?</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1255692300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Browser-based, likely as in "you can only access it from your Google account, no downloads".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Browser-based , likely as in " you can only access it from your Google account , no downloads " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Browser-based, likely as in "you can only access it from your Google account, no downloads".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29770953</id>
	<title>As a Publisher</title>
	<author>TastyCakes</author>
	<datestamp>1255719540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think it would be really interesting if these services were able to start signing their own authors.  Then they could charge lower prices while still paying the authors fairly but ignoring their publishers, who seem to me costly, useless, vestigial middle men in any of these online distribution processes.  I also wonder if iTunes will ever fill a similar role for music.  I suspect it is more likely there, since most money made on music is likely to be through digital distribution long before books (which people continue to overwhelmingly buy on paper in brick and mortar stores) and the publishing industry collects an even more egregious percentage of the proceeds.  The issue, I suppose, is whether these online distributors can recognise, advertise and grow talent as well as the traditional players.  I think that's quite possible with iTunes, I don't know so much about these book outlets.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it would be really interesting if these services were able to start signing their own authors .
Then they could charge lower prices while still paying the authors fairly but ignoring their publishers , who seem to me costly , useless , vestigial middle men in any of these online distribution processes .
I also wonder if iTunes will ever fill a similar role for music .
I suspect it is more likely there , since most money made on music is likely to be through digital distribution long before books ( which people continue to overwhelmingly buy on paper in brick and mortar stores ) and the publishing industry collects an even more egregious percentage of the proceeds .
The issue , I suppose , is whether these online distributors can recognise , advertise and grow talent as well as the traditional players .
I think that 's quite possible with iTunes , I do n't know so much about these book outlets .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it would be really interesting if these services were able to start signing their own authors.
Then they could charge lower prices while still paying the authors fairly but ignoring their publishers, who seem to me costly, useless, vestigial middle men in any of these online distribution processes.
I also wonder if iTunes will ever fill a similar role for music.
I suspect it is more likely there, since most money made on music is likely to be through digital distribution long before books (which people continue to overwhelmingly buy on paper in brick and mortar stores) and the publishing industry collects an even more egregious percentage of the proceeds.
The issue, I suppose, is whether these online distributors can recognise, advertise and grow talent as well as the traditional players.
I think that's quite possible with iTunes, I don't know so much about these book outlets.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769759</id>
	<title>Re:Why are they paying retailers?</title>
	<author>Arthur Grumbine</author>
	<datestamp>1255713600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I haven't read the article yet, but either the summary is way off, misleading, or it just doesn't make sense!</p></div><p>I guess TFS could be considered misleading if you believed that it was claiming to completely explain Google's plan. Or maybe, TFS was just incomplete (as summaries tend to be). From TFA:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>"Google Editions allows retail partners to sell their books, especially those who haven't invested in a digital platform," he said. "We expect the majority (of customers) will go to retail partners not to Google. We are a wholesaler, a book distributor."</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have n't read the article yet , but either the summary is way off , misleading , or it just does n't make sense ! I guess TFS could be considered misleading if you believed that it was claiming to completely explain Google 's plan .
Or maybe , TFS was just incomplete ( as summaries tend to be ) .
From TFA : " Google Editions allows retail partners to sell their books , especially those who have n't invested in a digital platform , " he said .
" We expect the majority ( of customers ) will go to retail partners not to Google .
We are a wholesaler , a book distributor .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I haven't read the article yet, but either the summary is way off, misleading, or it just doesn't make sense!I guess TFS could be considered misleading if you believed that it was claiming to completely explain Google's plan.
Or maybe, TFS was just incomplete (as summaries tend to be).
From TFA:"Google Editions allows retail partners to sell their books, especially those who haven't invested in a digital platform," he said.
"We expect the majority (of customers) will go to retail partners not to Google.
We are a wholesaler, a book distributor.
"
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769735</id>
	<title>ebooks are ok with me as long as they aren't DRM</title>
	<author>Paul Carver</author>
	<datestamp>1255713420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just recently bought my first couple of ebooks from O'Reilly.</p><p>I am completely unwilling to buy anything with DRM, but O'Reilly's ebooks are available simultaneously in PDF, ePub and Mobi formats. I downloaded the ePub version to Stanza on my iPhone and copied the PDF version to my desktop and verified that I can read it with no problem on an non-Internet-connected computer.</p><p>I'm happy and will probably buy more. I've bought four ebooks from O'Reilly including two that were at a very nice price of $9.99 and two that were more expensive. I've read one of them all the way through on my iPhone and I've started two others.</p><p>As long as I'm guaranteed that I can read the book forever on any device that supports an standard format such as PDF regardless of whether a company still exists I'm ok with it. I'm not going to buy any book, music, or movie that requires my reading/viewing device to seek authorization from some server over the Internet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just recently bought my first couple of ebooks from O'Reilly.I am completely unwilling to buy anything with DRM , but O'Reilly 's ebooks are available simultaneously in PDF , ePub and Mobi formats .
I downloaded the ePub version to Stanza on my iPhone and copied the PDF version to my desktop and verified that I can read it with no problem on an non-Internet-connected computer.I 'm happy and will probably buy more .
I 've bought four ebooks from O'Reilly including two that were at a very nice price of $ 9.99 and two that were more expensive .
I 've read one of them all the way through on my iPhone and I 've started two others.As long as I 'm guaranteed that I can read the book forever on any device that supports an standard format such as PDF regardless of whether a company still exists I 'm ok with it .
I 'm not going to buy any book , music , or movie that requires my reading/viewing device to seek authorization from some server over the Internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just recently bought my first couple of ebooks from O'Reilly.I am completely unwilling to buy anything with DRM, but O'Reilly's ebooks are available simultaneously in PDF, ePub and Mobi formats.
I downloaded the ePub version to Stanza on my iPhone and copied the PDF version to my desktop and verified that I can read it with no problem on an non-Internet-connected computer.I'm happy and will probably buy more.
I've bought four ebooks from O'Reilly including two that were at a very nice price of $9.99 and two that were more expensive.
I've read one of them all the way through on my iPhone and I've started two others.As long as I'm guaranteed that I can read the book forever on any device that supports an standard format such as PDF regardless of whether a company still exists I'm ok with it.
I'm not going to buy any book, music, or movie that requires my reading/viewing device to seek authorization from some server over the Internet.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29776861</id>
	<title>Out of print -- Cat amoung the pigeons.</title>
	<author>ResidentSourcerer</author>
	<datestamp>1255787520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I heard, but have not confirmed, that under US copyright law if a publisher gets a request for an out of print book, they must deliver the book within a year, or they can lose publication rights to the book.  You can pick up publication rights, subject to the original royalty paid to the copyright owner.</p><p>Anyone know if this is true?</p><p>Could google send out a million letters, and take over publication rights to a million out of print books?</p><p>
&nbsp; Does an ebook constitute a 'publication' for the purpose of this law?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I heard , but have not confirmed , that under US copyright law if a publisher gets a request for an out of print book , they must deliver the book within a year , or they can lose publication rights to the book .
You can pick up publication rights , subject to the original royalty paid to the copyright owner.Anyone know if this is true ? Could google send out a million letters , and take over publication rights to a million out of print books ?
  Does an ebook constitute a 'publication ' for the purpose of this law ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I heard, but have not confirmed, that under US copyright law if a publisher gets a request for an out of print book, they must deliver the book within a year, or they can lose publication rights to the book.
You can pick up publication rights, subject to the original royalty paid to the copyright owner.Anyone know if this is true?Could google send out a million letters, and take over publication rights to a million out of print books?
  Does an ebook constitute a 'publication' for the purpose of this law?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29770677</id>
	<title>Re:Out of print.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255718040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Remember when some whacko read Lord of The Rings and decided to turn it into a movie with loads of bits missing, and tons of people went and bought the book to see what Holywood [sic] wouldn't show them?
<br> <br>Sometimes reprinting is very good business. And no, LoTR wasn't an out of print book, but for the purposes of this post it serves as a good enough example if you can imagine it had been.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Remember when some whacko read Lord of The Rings and decided to turn it into a movie with loads of bits missing , and tons of people went and bought the book to see what Holywood [ sic ] would n't show them ?
Sometimes reprinting is very good business .
And no , LoTR was n't an out of print book , but for the purposes of this post it serves as a good enough example if you can imagine it had been .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Remember when some whacko read Lord of The Rings and decided to turn it into a movie with loads of bits missing, and tons of people went and bought the book to see what Holywood [sic] wouldn't show them?
Sometimes reprinting is very good business.
And no, LoTR wasn't an out of print book, but for the purposes of this post it serves as a good enough example if you can imagine it had been.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769669</id>
	<title>Re:From TFA:</title>
	<author>JustNiz</author>
	<datestamp>1255713060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah I read that too, but am still concerned why would you have to access it the first time via a browser? This might indicate that you're not really able to download a full copy as a single (non-DRM'd) file that you could put on another (browserless) e-book reader. Rather that you have to rely on some Google-supplied plugin to read an encrypted mess from your browser cache.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah I read that too , but am still concerned why would you have to access it the first time via a browser ?
This might indicate that you 're not really able to download a full copy as a single ( non-DRM 'd ) file that you could put on another ( browserless ) e-book reader .
Rather that you have to rely on some Google-supplied plugin to read an encrypted mess from your browser cache .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah I read that too, but am still concerned why would you have to access it the first time via a browser?
This might indicate that you're not really able to download a full copy as a single (non-DRM'd) file that you could put on another (browserless) e-book reader.
Rather that you have to rely on some Google-supplied plugin to read an encrypted mess from your browser cache.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769401</id>
	<title>Why are they paying retailers?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255711740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't understand why they would be paying "the vast majority" (of whats left after paying the publisher) to retailers?</p><p>I haven't read the article yet, but either the summary is way off, misleading, or it just doesn't make sense!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't understand why they would be paying " the vast majority " ( of whats left after paying the publisher ) to retailers ? I have n't read the article yet , but either the summary is way off , misleading , or it just does n't make sense !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't understand why they would be paying "the vast majority" (of whats left after paying the publisher) to retailers?I haven't read the article yet, but either the summary is way off, misleading, or it just doesn't make sense!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769631</id>
	<title>Re:amazon vs. Google</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255712880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>welcome to my enemies list, Mr Conservative. Don't you have a teaparty of a capitalism-worship service to go to?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>welcome to my enemies list , Mr Conservative .
Do n't you have a teaparty of a capitalism-worship service to go to ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>welcome to my enemies list, Mr Conservative.
Don't you have a teaparty of a capitalism-worship service to go to?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769479</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769513</id>
	<title>Kindle screen</title>
	<author>BigHungryJoe</author>
	<datestamp>1255712220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Look, if you read celebrity gossip sites and such, yes, you're going to be able to read the latest vampire romance that you bought at the google ebook store on your iPhone.</p><p>But if you're an educated person of culture and refinement, you don't like reading on a computer screen. You enjoy the tactile sensation of turning pages and reading real books. In a pinch, you'll use your Kindle.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Look , if you read celebrity gossip sites and such , yes , you 're going to be able to read the latest vampire romance that you bought at the google ebook store on your iPhone.But if you 're an educated person of culture and refinement , you do n't like reading on a computer screen .
You enjoy the tactile sensation of turning pages and reading real books .
In a pinch , you 'll use your Kindle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look, if you read celebrity gossip sites and such, yes, you're going to be able to read the latest vampire romance that you bought at the google ebook store on your iPhone.But if you're an educated person of culture and refinement, you don't like reading on a computer screen.
You enjoy the tactile sensation of turning pages and reading real books.
In a pinch, you'll use your Kindle.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29770929</id>
	<title>Re:The price matters</title>
	<author>Thaelon</author>
	<datestamp>1255719420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I am not sure how many people you are going to get to buy an e-book for the same price that they could pick up a physical copy at their local book store</p></div></blockquote><p>I'm at least one.</p><p>I'd rather have ebooks to replace my huge, difficult to move, packed away in boxes, hard to find what I want library with a machine searchable list so small I can carry the entire library on my iPhone or N810 anywhere I go.  If I could trade in all the books in my library for digital editions readable in Stanza, I'd do it today and pay to have it done.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am not sure how many people you are going to get to buy an e-book for the same price that they could pick up a physical copy at their local book storeI 'm at least one.I 'd rather have ebooks to replace my huge , difficult to move , packed away in boxes , hard to find what I want library with a machine searchable list so small I can carry the entire library on my iPhone or N810 anywhere I go .
If I could trade in all the books in my library for digital editions readable in Stanza , I 'd do it today and pay to have it done .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am not sure how many people you are going to get to buy an e-book for the same price that they could pick up a physical copy at their local book storeI'm at least one.I'd rather have ebooks to replace my huge, difficult to move, packed away in boxes, hard to find what I want library with a machine searchable list so small I can carry the entire library on my iPhone or N810 anywhere I go.
If I could trade in all the books in my library for digital editions readable in Stanza, I'd do it today and pay to have it done.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769423</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29773195</id>
	<title>Re:The price matters</title>
	<author>Lehk228</author>
	<datestamp>1255688760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>that's because they are pretty cool dudes and not really afraid of anything.  they also offer a bunch of stuff for free in the Baen free library.</htmltext>
<tokenext>that 's because they are pretty cool dudes and not really afraid of anything .
they also offer a bunch of stuff for free in the Baen free library .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that's because they are pretty cool dudes and not really afraid of anything.
they also offer a bunch of stuff for free in the Baen free library.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769745</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769435</id>
	<title>amazon vs. Google</title>
	<author>buchner.johannes</author>
	<datestamp>1255711920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't mind Google stealing a piece of Amazons profit, they at least invest in (yet) non-profitable ideas, Amazon just makes its shareholders rich.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't mind Google stealing a piece of Amazons profit , they at least invest in ( yet ) non-profitable ideas , Amazon just makes its shareholders rich .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't mind Google stealing a piece of Amazons profit, they at least invest in (yet) non-profitable ideas, Amazon just makes its shareholders rich.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29770751</id>
	<title>Re:The format is all that matters</title>
	<author>Seumas</author>
	<datestamp>1255718400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As soon as a netbook can fit in my hand and use an e-ink screen, I might be all over that. In the meantime, I really don't want to spend even more hours staring at a big bright back-lit computer screen.</p><p>Also, google trying to *add* middemen to the process by involving retailers seems a bit odd, to me. How about google and I cut them out and I just buy it at a discount? I mean, you're not selling a physical service here -- so what are they a "wholesaler" of? Bits?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As soon as a netbook can fit in my hand and use an e-ink screen , I might be all over that .
In the meantime , I really do n't want to spend even more hours staring at a big bright back-lit computer screen.Also , google trying to * add * middemen to the process by involving retailers seems a bit odd , to me .
How about google and I cut them out and I just buy it at a discount ?
I mean , you 're not selling a physical service here -- so what are they a " wholesaler " of ?
Bits ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As soon as a netbook can fit in my hand and use an e-ink screen, I might be all over that.
In the meantime, I really don't want to spend even more hours staring at a big bright back-lit computer screen.Also, google trying to *add* middemen to the process by involving retailers seems a bit odd, to me.
How about google and I cut them out and I just buy it at a discount?
I mean, you're not selling a physical service here -- so what are they a "wholesaler" of?
Bits?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769461</id>
	<title>Just e books?</title>
	<author>Threni</author>
	<datestamp>1255711980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>why not everything else?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>why not everything else ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>why not everything else?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769691</id>
	<title>Re:what's the DRM story?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255713180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hope you get AIDS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope you get AIDS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope you get AIDS.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29770681</id>
	<title>Kindle app for iPhone/iPod</title>
	<author>theurge14</author>
	<datestamp>1255718040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The summary mentioned Google will be going up against Kindle owners but didn't mention the Kindle app for iPhone.</p><p>As of August 31 2009 the Kindle app for the iPhone was the <a href="http://ireaderreview.com/2009/08/31/kindle-iphone-ebook-app/" title="ireaderreview.com">4th most popular app in the App Store</a> [ireaderreview.com], with estimates of 3 million Kindle for iPhone users out there.</p><p>Google will be going against this as well as Stanza and the B&amp;N ebook readers.  Apparently there's a rather large market for ebooks on the iPhone/iPod touch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The summary mentioned Google will be going up against Kindle owners but did n't mention the Kindle app for iPhone.As of August 31 2009 the Kindle app for the iPhone was the 4th most popular app in the App Store [ ireaderreview.com ] , with estimates of 3 million Kindle for iPhone users out there.Google will be going against this as well as Stanza and the B&amp;N ebook readers .
Apparently there 's a rather large market for ebooks on the iPhone/iPod touch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The summary mentioned Google will be going up against Kindle owners but didn't mention the Kindle app for iPhone.As of August 31 2009 the Kindle app for the iPhone was the 4th most popular app in the App Store [ireaderreview.com], with estimates of 3 million Kindle for iPhone users out there.Google will be going against this as well as Stanza and the B&amp;N ebook readers.
Apparently there's a rather large market for ebooks on the iPhone/iPod touch.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29772079</id>
	<title>Re:what's the DRM story?</title>
	<author>Hognoxious</author>
	<datestamp>1255725420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Most DRM is pointless.  The false positives annoy genuine users, and the hardcore commercial pirates find a hack or a workaround in about 15 minutes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most DRM is pointless .
The false positives annoy genuine users , and the hardcore commercial pirates find a hack or a workaround in about 15 minutes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most DRM is pointless.
The false positives annoy genuine users, and the hardcore commercial pirates find a hack or a workaround in about 15 minutes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769549</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769617</id>
	<title>Re:amazon vs. Google</title>
	<author>Brainix</author>
	<datestamp>1255712820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Amazon has done some interesting research and development lately.  In particular, look at Amazon's <a href="http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/" title="amazon.com">EC2 cloud computing platform</a> [amazon.com], as well as Amazon's <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search-inside/sipshelp.html" title="amazon.com">statistically improbable phrases (SIP) algorithm</a> [amazon.com].  I have a fetish for natural language parsing, so SIP is particularly interesting to me.  These are innovations.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Amazon has done some interesting research and development lately .
In particular , look at Amazon 's EC2 cloud computing platform [ amazon.com ] , as well as Amazon 's statistically improbable phrases ( SIP ) algorithm [ amazon.com ] .
I have a fetish for natural language parsing , so SIP is particularly interesting to me .
These are innovations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Amazon has done some interesting research and development lately.
In particular, look at Amazon's EC2 cloud computing platform [amazon.com], as well as Amazon's statistically improbable phrases (SIP) algorithm [amazon.com].
I have a fetish for natural language parsing, so SIP is particularly interesting to me.
These are innovations.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29769435</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_1539203.29770097</id>
	<title>Crappy Displays</title>
	<author>smcdow</author>
	<datestamp>1255715160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Keeping in mind that all back-lit displays suck, can we please have a reader that doesn't suck?</p><p>I mean other than the Kindle.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Keeping in mind that all back-lit displays suck , can we please have a reader that does n't suck ? I mean other than the Kindle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Keeping in mind that all back-lit displays suck, can we please have a reader that doesn't suck?I mean other than the Kindle.</sentencetext>
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