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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_16_0224256</id>
	<title>Australian Student Balloon Rises 100,000 Feet, With a Digital Camera</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1255705860000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="mailto:emptyskies@@@mac...com" rel="nofollow">hype7</a> writes <i>"An Australian student at <a href="http://www.deakin.edu.au/">Deakin University</a> had a fascinating idea for a final project &mdash; to <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-tech/offtheshelf-expedition-takes-flight-20091014-gw6o.html">send a balloon up 100,000ft (~30,000 metres) into the stratosphere with a digital camera attached</a>. The university was supportive, and the project took shape. Although there were some serious hitches along the way, the project was successful, and he managed to retrieve the balloon &mdash; with the pictures. What's really amazing is that the total cost was so low; the most expensive part was buying the helium gas for approximately AUD$250 (~USD$200)."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>hype7 writes " An Australian student at Deakin University had a fascinating idea for a final project    to send a balloon up 100,000ft ( ~ 30,000 metres ) into the stratosphere with a digital camera attached .
The university was supportive , and the project took shape .
Although there were some serious hitches along the way , the project was successful , and he managed to retrieve the balloon    with the pictures .
What 's really amazing is that the total cost was so low ; the most expensive part was buying the helium gas for approximately AUD $ 250 ( ~ USD $ 200 ) .
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<sentencetext>hype7 writes "An Australian student at Deakin University had a fascinating idea for a final project — to send a balloon up 100,000ft (~30,000 metres) into the stratosphere with a digital camera attached.
The university was supportive, and the project took shape.
Although there were some serious hitches along the way, the project was successful, and he managed to retrieve the balloon — with the pictures.
What's really amazing is that the total cost was so low; the most expensive part was buying the helium gas for approximately AUD$250 (~USD$200).
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29766241</id>
	<title>The difference? It's obvious...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255636320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>THESE GUYS ARE AUSTRALIAN.</p><p>Slashdot has become the official cheerleading website for-and-of all things Australia.</p><p>Many of the Slashdot "editors" do little but relentlessly promote Australia at every turn.</p><p>This is what happens when you hire a bunhc of Australians, and Australian fanboys.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>THESE GUYS ARE AUSTRALIAN.Slashdot has become the official cheerleading website for-and-of all things Australia.Many of the Slashdot " editors " do little but relentlessly promote Australia at every turn.This is what happens when you hire a bunhc of Australians , and Australian fanboys .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>THESE GUYS ARE AUSTRALIAN.Slashdot has become the official cheerleading website for-and-of all things Australia.Many of the Slashdot "editors" do little but relentlessly promote Australia at every turn.This is what happens when you hire a bunhc of Australians, and Australian fanboys.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29767671</id>
	<title>Re:So what...</title>
	<author>RealGrouchy</author>
	<datestamp>1255702140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, the real difference is this guy had a girlfriend.</p><p>- RG&gt;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , the real difference is this guy had a girlfriend.- RG &gt;</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, the real difference is this guy had a girlfriend.- RG&gt;</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765751</id>
	<title>And before the MIT guys...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255627260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2009/03/17/teens-send-balloon-i.html" title="boingboing.net" rel="nofollow">a group of Spanish high-schoolers</a> [boingboing.net], back in March. And <a href="http://www.natrium42.com/halo/flight2/" title="natrium42.com" rel="nofollow">a canadian</a> [natrium42.com] a couple of years ago. And whatnot...</p><p>So, yeah. Not pretty much impressive (or a novelty) by now. Seems that verifying the roundness of Earth is routine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... a group of Spanish high-schoolers [ boingboing.net ] , back in March .
And a canadian [ natrium42.com ] a couple of years ago .
And whatnot...So , yeah .
Not pretty much impressive ( or a novelty ) by now .
Seems that verifying the roundness of Earth is routine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... a group of Spanish high-schoolers [boingboing.net], back in March.
And a canadian [natrium42.com] a couple of years ago.
And whatnot...So, yeah.
Not pretty much impressive (or a novelty) by now.
Seems that verifying the roundness of Earth is routine.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765563</id>
	<title>Re:Altitude</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255624320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>See, you can get a lot higher up without a kid inside.</p></div><p>The real question is how many balloons would it take to get a kid up to a 100,000 feet? Inquiring minds want to know?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>See , you can get a lot higher up without a kid inside.The real question is how many balloons would it take to get a kid up to a 100,000 feet ?
Inquiring minds want to know ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>See, you can get a lot higher up without a kid inside.The real question is how many balloons would it take to get a kid up to a 100,000 feet?
Inquiring minds want to know?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765531</id>
	<title>Deja Vu</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255624020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where's Denzel Washington when you need him...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where 's Denzel Washington when you need him.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where's Denzel Washington when you need him...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765577</id>
	<title>Re:So what...</title>
	<author>DNS-and-BIND</author>
	<datestamp>1255624440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, this guy isn't exactly MIT material.  From the article:<p> <i>Melody tried to let the balloon go gently but as soon as the neck of the balloon left our grip it moved up at high speed. We lost control of the balloon and the parachute caught her jacket, causing two of the strings to detach. The payload bounced along the ground, jumped into the air and then thumped me in the back. One of the two digital cameras lost power at this point.</i> HA HA HA hahaha...what a dope.</p><p> <i>I retrieved the payload and found it was intact. It had just rolled over on top of the GPS antenna.</i> Bad design, period.</p><p> <i> the Canon A480 camera that survived the impact at launch was incorrectly set to ISO 1600 before launch</i>. Go to all this trouble and yet not even set your camera right.  What sort of grade would that get at MIT?  Ah, I suppose this guy is just at a job factory anyway, not a real university.  Good enough, eh?  Everyone pat him on the back for doing something special, because we're all special.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , this guy is n't exactly MIT material .
From the article : Melody tried to let the balloon go gently but as soon as the neck of the balloon left our grip it moved up at high speed .
We lost control of the balloon and the parachute caught her jacket , causing two of the strings to detach .
The payload bounced along the ground , jumped into the air and then thumped me in the back .
One of the two digital cameras lost power at this point .
HA HA HA hahaha...what a dope .
I retrieved the payload and found it was intact .
It had just rolled over on top of the GPS antenna .
Bad design , period .
the Canon A480 camera that survived the impact at launch was incorrectly set to ISO 1600 before launch .
Go to all this trouble and yet not even set your camera right .
What sort of grade would that get at MIT ?
Ah , I suppose this guy is just at a job factory anyway , not a real university .
Good enough , eh ?
Everyone pat him on the back for doing something special , because we 're all special .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, this guy isn't exactly MIT material.
From the article: Melody tried to let the balloon go gently but as soon as the neck of the balloon left our grip it moved up at high speed.
We lost control of the balloon and the parachute caught her jacket, causing two of the strings to detach.
The payload bounced along the ground, jumped into the air and then thumped me in the back.
One of the two digital cameras lost power at this point.
HA HA HA hahaha...what a dope.
I retrieved the payload and found it was intact.
It had just rolled over on top of the GPS antenna.
Bad design, period.
the Canon A480 camera that survived the impact at launch was incorrectly set to ISO 1600 before launch.
Go to all this trouble and yet not even set your camera right.
What sort of grade would that get at MIT?
Ah, I suppose this guy is just at a job factory anyway, not a real university.
Good enough, eh?
Everyone pat him on the back for doing something special, because we're all special.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29767865</id>
	<title>Re:What would be interesting...</title>
	<author>pnewhook</author>
	<datestamp>1255703640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow - what a complainer.  Sure it's not that novel, but still cool and you just have to shit all over it.  He built his own microcontroller system - that's not that trivial.
</p><p>As for your suggestions:
</p><p>1) a stabilizer would either drain the batteries or freeze up with the low temperatures.  Adding complexity with little benefit does not make it better
</p><p>2) might be interesting.  IR might just show that the earth is warmer than space. Ooooo now there's science!
</p><p>3) sure, put lasers on a balloon that can fly into airline flight paths.  Now that's safe.
</p><p>4) real time image analysis.  You do realize what the computing capabilities of a microcontroller are, don't you?
</p><p>5) why implement the complexity of a wireless grid?  Just launch several balloons all time stamped and you can process the data later. Again, needless complexity doesn't make it better, it just makes the probability of failure much higher and drives up the cost exponentially.
</p><p>6) something useful?  How about a big floating sign saying ACs don't have a freaking clue what they are talking about?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow - what a complainer .
Sure it 's not that novel , but still cool and you just have to shit all over it .
He built his own microcontroller system - that 's not that trivial .
As for your suggestions : 1 ) a stabilizer would either drain the batteries or freeze up with the low temperatures .
Adding complexity with little benefit does not make it better 2 ) might be interesting .
IR might just show that the earth is warmer than space .
Ooooo now there 's science !
3 ) sure , put lasers on a balloon that can fly into airline flight paths .
Now that 's safe .
4 ) real time image analysis .
You do realize what the computing capabilities of a microcontroller are , do n't you ?
5 ) why implement the complexity of a wireless grid ?
Just launch several balloons all time stamped and you can process the data later .
Again , needless complexity does n't make it better , it just makes the probability of failure much higher and drives up the cost exponentially .
6 ) something useful ?
How about a big floating sign saying ACs do n't have a freaking clue what they are talking about ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow - what a complainer.
Sure it's not that novel, but still cool and you just have to shit all over it.
He built his own microcontroller system - that's not that trivial.
As for your suggestions:
1) a stabilizer would either drain the batteries or freeze up with the low temperatures.
Adding complexity with little benefit does not make it better
2) might be interesting.
IR might just show that the earth is warmer than space.
Ooooo now there's science!
3) sure, put lasers on a balloon that can fly into airline flight paths.
Now that's safe.
4) real time image analysis.
You do realize what the computing capabilities of a microcontroller are, don't you?
5) why implement the complexity of a wireless grid?
Just launch several balloons all time stamped and you can process the data later.
Again, needless complexity doesn't make it better, it just makes the probability of failure much higher and drives up the cost exponentially.
6) something useful?
How about a big floating sign saying ACs don't have a freaking clue what they are talking about?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765479</id>
	<title>CU Boulder</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255623360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The University of Colorado at Boulder in Boulder, CO has a class where all of the students get to make CubeSATs that are sent up on a balloon and then retrieved.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The University of Colorado at Boulder in Boulder , CO has a class where all of the students get to make CubeSATs that are sent up on a balloon and then retrieved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The University of Colorado at Boulder in Boulder, CO has a class where all of the students get to make CubeSATs that are sent up on a balloon and then retrieved.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29772763</id>
	<title>Re:What would be interesting...</title>
	<author>mortuus</author>
	<datestamp>1255686120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is not as simple as it seems, let me give a few examples:</p><p>For these sorts of experiments, you absolutely must be able to find the payload after landing - and though you may be able to simulate roughly where it will land, you really have no idea. You have to have a really high confidence that your communication system is going to allow you to find the payload wherever it lands. In Australia, even the best two options (GSM and APRS) have rather patchy coverage. GSM is great near populated areas, but these are obviously not the best areas for launch and landing. Outside populated areas there is weak, or often no GSM reception at all. Likewise, most of the APRS infrastructure is located around areas where people live and are going to use it. Then of course there is the physical recovery, what happens if the balloon lands in the wilderness hundreds of kilometres from roads? What if it lands in the sea? Before you can really do anything fancy you really need to verify that you launch/recovery system works absolutely perfectly.</p><p>OK, so now you've got your GPS receiver and transmitters. How is your GPS location data affected by the transmitter going off next to it? How about serial comms? Could the NMEA data be corrupted when the transmitter goes off? I2C sensors? How will it affect communication with the SD-CARD? How will you know? How will the transmitter affect the rest of your system? How will the system be affected by low temperatures? What happens if one module fails, what will the system do to recover?   It's good stuff for an engineering project, but perhaps not an extremely interesting story in itself.</p><p>You have many interesting ideas which really would make a project unique, in my case though it was enough of a handful already just getting the basics done myself while coping with the rest of Uni study/life. I'll try something more unique for my next launch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is not as simple as it seems , let me give a few examples : For these sorts of experiments , you absolutely must be able to find the payload after landing - and though you may be able to simulate roughly where it will land , you really have no idea .
You have to have a really high confidence that your communication system is going to allow you to find the payload wherever it lands .
In Australia , even the best two options ( GSM and APRS ) have rather patchy coverage .
GSM is great near populated areas , but these are obviously not the best areas for launch and landing .
Outside populated areas there is weak , or often no GSM reception at all .
Likewise , most of the APRS infrastructure is located around areas where people live and are going to use it .
Then of course there is the physical recovery , what happens if the balloon lands in the wilderness hundreds of kilometres from roads ?
What if it lands in the sea ?
Before you can really do anything fancy you really need to verify that you launch/recovery system works absolutely perfectly.OK , so now you 've got your GPS receiver and transmitters .
How is your GPS location data affected by the transmitter going off next to it ?
How about serial comms ?
Could the NMEA data be corrupted when the transmitter goes off ?
I2C sensors ?
How will it affect communication with the SD-CARD ?
How will you know ?
How will the transmitter affect the rest of your system ?
How will the system be affected by low temperatures ?
What happens if one module fails , what will the system do to recover ?
It 's good stuff for an engineering project , but perhaps not an extremely interesting story in itself.You have many interesting ideas which really would make a project unique , in my case though it was enough of a handful already just getting the basics done myself while coping with the rest of Uni study/life .
I 'll try something more unique for my next launch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is not as simple as it seems, let me give a few examples:For these sorts of experiments, you absolutely must be able to find the payload after landing - and though you may be able to simulate roughly where it will land, you really have no idea.
You have to have a really high confidence that your communication system is going to allow you to find the payload wherever it lands.
In Australia, even the best two options (GSM and APRS) have rather patchy coverage.
GSM is great near populated areas, but these are obviously not the best areas for launch and landing.
Outside populated areas there is weak, or often no GSM reception at all.
Likewise, most of the APRS infrastructure is located around areas where people live and are going to use it.
Then of course there is the physical recovery, what happens if the balloon lands in the wilderness hundreds of kilometres from roads?
What if it lands in the sea?
Before you can really do anything fancy you really need to verify that you launch/recovery system works absolutely perfectly.OK, so now you've got your GPS receiver and transmitters.
How is your GPS location data affected by the transmitter going off next to it?
How about serial comms?
Could the NMEA data be corrupted when the transmitter goes off?
I2C sensors?
How will it affect communication with the SD-CARD?
How will you know?
How will the transmitter affect the rest of your system?
How will the system be affected by low temperatures?
What happens if one module fails, what will the system do to recover?
It's good stuff for an engineering project, but perhaps not an extremely interesting story in itself.You have many interesting ideas which really would make a project unique, in my case though it was enough of a handful already just getting the basics done myself while coping with the rest of Uni study/life.
I'll try something more unique for my next launch.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765819</id>
	<title>In Soviet Russia...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255627980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...the higher-ups kid inside you!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...the higher-ups kid inside you !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...the higher-ups kid inside you!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765797</id>
	<title>Re:Altitude</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255627800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I call BS on the "kid on balloon" story.  From the size of it, no way it could lift a person, even a 6 year old.  I saw NOTHING in the press questioning if the envelope was big enough to perform as feared.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I call BS on the " kid on balloon " story .
From the size of it , no way it could lift a person , even a 6 year old .
I saw NOTHING in the press questioning if the envelope was big enough to perform as feared .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I call BS on the "kid on balloon" story.
From the size of it, no way it could lift a person, even a 6 year old.
I saw NOTHING in the press questioning if the envelope was big enough to perform as feared.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29766305</id>
	<title>Nothing new, move along</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255724100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Please do not post unimportant articles.</p><p>This has been done already - with better pictures.<br>Nothing new has been aquired, exept for 7000 feet (~2k meters) extra height.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Please do not post unimportant articles.This has been done already - with better pictures.Nothing new has been aquired , exept for 7000 feet ( ~ 2k meters ) extra height .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please do not post unimportant articles.This has been done already - with better pictures.Nothing new has been aquired, exept for 7000 feet (~2k meters) extra height.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765503</id>
	<title>Well done...</title>
	<author>serbianheretic</author>
	<datestamp>1255623540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...Commander, your bounty has been paid. I guess koalas are next.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...Commander , your bounty has been paid .
I guess koalas are next .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...Commander, your bounty has been paid.
I guess koalas are next.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29768175</id>
	<title>Re:cheaper space lift</title>
	<author>Thing 1</author>
	<datestamp>1255705500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Huh, looks like they used the white ball from The Prisoner, to achieve lift.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Huh , looks like they used the white ball from The Prisoner , to achieve lift .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Huh, looks like they used the white ball from The Prisoner, to achieve lift.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29768555</id>
	<title>Re:Altitude</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255707600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's been done: http://www.members.shaw.ca/sonde/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's been done : http : //www.members.shaw.ca/sonde/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's been done: http://www.members.shaw.ca/sonde/</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29766757</id>
	<title>a new way to import cocaine from mexico</title>
	<author>cheekyboy</author>
	<datestamp>1255688760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cool, so if we can get a baloon with payloads of say 1/2 a pound pure, which is what.... $20k of cocaine.</p><p>Wait for favourable winds/direction.  Make sure its blue so it cant easily be seen.</p><p>Fire it up, with a tiny cpu (use old nokia without screen/plastic cover running MIDP2 java app).</p><p>Once it reachs a GPS region or into USA, deflate one of the baloons to desend not too fast, and sms the gps coordinate 5 seconds before hitting the ground.</p><p>Drive up and pick it up at leasure.</p><p>Im sure if you write up a nice prospectus, any dealer would purchase this 'kit' for $2k.</p><p>If the potential is to make millions, im sure they are doing it now already.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cool , so if we can get a baloon with payloads of say 1/2 a pound pure , which is what.... $ 20k of cocaine.Wait for favourable winds/direction .
Make sure its blue so it cant easily be seen.Fire it up , with a tiny cpu ( use old nokia without screen/plastic cover running MIDP2 java app ) .Once it reachs a GPS region or into USA , deflate one of the baloons to desend not too fast , and sms the gps coordinate 5 seconds before hitting the ground.Drive up and pick it up at leasure.Im sure if you write up a nice prospectus , any dealer would purchase this 'kit ' for $ 2k.If the potential is to make millions , im sure they are doing it now already .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cool, so if we can get a baloon with payloads of say 1/2 a pound pure, which is what.... $20k of cocaine.Wait for favourable winds/direction.
Make sure its blue so it cant easily be seen.Fire it up, with a tiny cpu (use old nokia without screen/plastic cover running MIDP2 java app).Once it reachs a GPS region or into USA, deflate one of the baloons to desend not too fast, and sms the gps coordinate 5 seconds before hitting the ground.Drive up and pick it up at leasure.Im sure if you write up a nice prospectus, any dealer would purchase this 'kit' for $2k.If the potential is to make millions, im sure they are doing it now already.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765517</id>
	<title>"some serious hitches along the way"</title>
	<author>Toonol</author>
	<datestamp>1255623780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd say.  When the basket fell off, I was sure the boy was dead!<br> <br>

They should keep it fastened down a little better.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd say .
When the basket fell off , I was sure the boy was dead !
They should keep it fastened down a little better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd say.
When the basket fell off, I was sure the boy was dead!
They should keep it fastened down a little better.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29766891</id>
	<title>Re: model airoplane</title>
	<author>MancunianMaskMan</author>
	<datestamp>1255691160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>that's been done by a hobbyist years ago. Incredibly cool project. can't seem to find it now, i read an extensive website about it years ago. Some kid and his brother spent years building an airframe, and pack a gps and embedded computer that steers the plane back "home", 2-way radio modem, camera, the lot. Someone post the link please</htmltext>
<tokenext>that 's been done by a hobbyist years ago .
Incredibly cool project .
ca n't seem to find it now , i read an extensive website about it years ago .
Some kid and his brother spent years building an airframe , and pack a gps and embedded computer that steers the plane back " home " , 2-way radio modem , camera , the lot .
Someone post the link please</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that's been done by a hobbyist years ago.
Incredibly cool project.
can't seem to find it now, i read an extensive website about it years ago.
Some kid and his brother spent years building an airframe, and pack a gps and embedded computer that steers the plane back "home", 2-way radio modem, camera, the lot.
Someone post the link please</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29771265</id>
	<title>Re:Altitude</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255720980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Imma let you finish, but Neil Armstrong had the greatest space video of all time. Of all time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Imma let you finish , but Neil Armstrong had the greatest space video of all time .
Of all time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Imma let you finish, but Neil Armstrong had the greatest space video of all time.
Of all time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29766695</id>
	<title>Re:Altitude</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255687980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You must be new to Slashdot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You must be new to Slashdot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You must be new to Slashdot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29768217</id>
	<title>Re:Altitude</title>
	<author>Alizarin Erythrosin</author>
	<datestamp>1255705740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Always interesting to see the twists applied to previous attempts at the same task.. I know what idea I'm putting in my 6 yr old's mind for his first science fair....</p></div></blockquote><p>After seeing these stories as of late, and reading the FAA regulations on launching balloon missions and their payloads, I've been wanting to do one at night. Would take some tweaking to figure out the correct camera settings, but having night pictures (with all the roads and cities lit up and such) would be pretty cool that high up.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Always interesting to see the twists applied to previous attempts at the same task.. I know what idea I 'm putting in my 6 yr old 's mind for his first science fair....After seeing these stories as of late , and reading the FAA regulations on launching balloon missions and their payloads , I 've been wanting to do one at night .
Would take some tweaking to figure out the correct camera settings , but having night pictures ( with all the roads and cities lit up and such ) would be pretty cool that high up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Always interesting to see the twists applied to previous attempts at the same task.. I know what idea I'm putting in my 6 yr old's mind for his first science fair....After seeing these stories as of late, and reading the FAA regulations on launching balloon missions and their payloads, I've been wanting to do one at night.
Would take some tweaking to figure out the correct camera settings, but having night pictures (with all the roads and cities lit up and such) would be pretty cool that high up.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765605</id>
	<title>So who will be the first to..</title>
	<author>stillpixel</author>
	<datestamp>1255624800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>send up a balloon and an iPhone jailbroken and functioning as a streaming web cam?</htmltext>
<tokenext>send up a balloon and an iPhone jailbroken and functioning as a streaming web cam ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>send up a balloon and an iPhone jailbroken and functioning as a streaming web cam?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765687</id>
	<title>Fuck Deakin</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255626300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Mother fuckers, I attend the Burwood campus at Deakin University and I'm an SIT student and I wanted to do something very similar (Attach some Arduino data logging for sensors etc.) and they told me no and didn't want to hear anything more about it even though I said I could fund it myself, instead this tool who can't even set a camera right does it with University support. I attend the damn university and not even I get to find out about this stuff until I see it on Slashdot! Fuck the "Deakin Experience", they don't give a flying fuck about anyone else other than postgrads and masters students.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Mother fuckers , I attend the Burwood campus at Deakin University and I 'm an SIT student and I wanted to do something very similar ( Attach some Arduino data logging for sensors etc .
) and they told me no and did n't want to hear anything more about it even though I said I could fund it myself , instead this tool who ca n't even set a camera right does it with University support .
I attend the damn university and not even I get to find out about this stuff until I see it on Slashdot !
Fuck the " Deakin Experience " , they do n't give a flying fuck about anyone else other than postgrads and masters students .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mother fuckers, I attend the Burwood campus at Deakin University and I'm an SIT student and I wanted to do something very similar (Attach some Arduino data logging for sensors etc.
) and they told me no and didn't want to hear anything more about it even though I said I could fund it myself, instead this tool who can't even set a camera right does it with University support.
I attend the damn university and not even I get to find out about this stuff until I see it on Slashdot!
Fuck the "Deakin Experience", they don't give a flying fuck about anyone else other than postgrads and masters students.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765791</id>
	<title>Aircraft Regulations?</title>
	<author>filosofo</author>
	<datestamp>1255627680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Anybody who wants to attempt a similar project ought to read part 101 of the Civil Aviation Safety rules that specify what operators of unmanned aircraft and rockets must do to ensure safety in the air.</p></div></blockquote><p>

Can someone summarize what those are or explain the American equivalent?  I mean, how do you avoid taking out an airliner's engine or some such thing?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anybody who wants to attempt a similar project ought to read part 101 of the Civil Aviation Safety rules that specify what operators of unmanned aircraft and rockets must do to ensure safety in the air .
Can someone summarize what those are or explain the American equivalent ?
I mean , how do you avoid taking out an airliner 's engine or some such thing ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anybody who wants to attempt a similar project ought to read part 101 of the Civil Aviation Safety rules that specify what operators of unmanned aircraft and rockets must do to ensure safety in the air.
Can someone summarize what those are or explain the American equivalent?
I mean, how do you avoid taking out an airliner's engine or some such thing?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765467</id>
	<title>Altitude</title>
	<author>White Flame</author>
	<datestamp>1255623180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>See, you can get a lot higher up without a kid inside.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>See , you can get a lot higher up without a kid inside .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>See, you can get a lot higher up without a kid inside.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765903</id>
	<title>Re:So what...</title>
	<author>camperdave</author>
	<datestamp>1255629300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Didn't some kids at MIT send a balloon out of the atmosphere<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... recently?</i> <br> <br>
No they didn't, not even halfway.  What's special about this is that neither the summary nor the article make any bogus claims about balloons making it into space.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did n't some kids at MIT send a balloon out of the atmosphere ... recently ? No they did n't , not even halfway .
What 's special about this is that neither the summary nor the article make any bogus claims about balloons making it into space .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Didn't some kids at MIT send a balloon out of the atmosphere ... recently?  
No they didn't, not even halfway.
What's special about this is that neither the summary nor the article make any bogus claims about balloons making it into space.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29766639</id>
	<title>Adding rockets</title>
	<author>blaisethom</author>
	<datestamp>1255687080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seems like 110,000 feet is quite common for university balloon flights. The University of Cambridge in the UK also has a project which has been reaching that height for a while (33km). What is interesting there is that they're planning to launch rockets from the balloon, and hoping to reach 150km. You can see their plans at <a href="http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~cuspaceflight/martlet.php" title="ucam.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~cuspaceflight/martlet.php</a> [ucam.org]. Don't know what their costs are.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems like 110,000 feet is quite common for university balloon flights .
The University of Cambridge in the UK also has a project which has been reaching that height for a while ( 33km ) .
What is interesting there is that they 're planning to launch rockets from the balloon , and hoping to reach 150km .
You can see their plans at http : //www.srcf.ucam.org/ ~ cuspaceflight/martlet.php [ ucam.org ] .
Do n't know what their costs are .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems like 110,000 feet is quite common for university balloon flights.
The University of Cambridge in the UK also has a project which has been reaching that height for a while (33km).
What is interesting there is that they're planning to launch rockets from the balloon, and hoping to reach 150km.
You can see their plans at http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~cuspaceflight/martlet.php [ucam.org].
Don't know what their costs are.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765759</id>
	<title>Re:So what...</title>
	<author>pcolaman</author>
	<datestamp>1255627320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But the real question is, how many of those kids rode the balloon?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But the real question is , how many of those kids rode the balloon ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But the real question is, how many of those kids rode the balloon?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765735</id>
	<title>Special doesn't really mean s p e c i a l anymore</title>
	<author>djupedal</author>
	<datestamp>1255627080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, you see, if NASA can smack the Moon's ass in the dark and get people all worked up over nothing, why not some Aussie dweeb that can't set a camera? Special just means vastly underachieved these days it seems...
<br>
<br>
Ahhhh, the celebration of mediocrity.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , you see , if NASA can smack the Moon 's ass in the dark and get people all worked up over nothing , why not some Aussie dweeb that ca n't set a camera ?
Special just means vastly underachieved these days it seems.. . Ahhhh , the celebration of mediocrity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, you see, if NASA can smack the Moon's ass in the dark and get people all worked up over nothing, why not some Aussie dweeb that can't set a camera?
Special just means vastly underachieved these days it seems...


Ahhhh, the celebration of mediocrity.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765917</id>
	<title>Re:Altitude</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255629480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>See, Slashdot has old news all the time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>See , Slashdot has old news all the time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>See, Slashdot has old news all the time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765953</id>
	<title>Re:Altitude</title>
	<author>FatdogHaiku</author>
	<datestamp>1255630200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't see why ANY of this is a big deal. Joe Kittinger RODE a balloon up over 100,000 and then jumped out, with cameras rolling. OK, they weren't digital cameras, and the whole job cast a lot more than $200. but it was back in the 60's... <br> <br>During the test his suit leaked but he kept going <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project\_Excelsior" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project\_Excelsior</a> [wikipedia.org] <br>Video here: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcT8lKKpeXs&amp;feature=related" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcT8lKKpeXs&amp;feature=related</a> [youtube.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't see why ANY of this is a big deal .
Joe Kittinger RODE a balloon up over 100,000 and then jumped out , with cameras rolling .
OK , they were n't digital cameras , and the whole job cast a lot more than $ 200 .
but it was back in the 60 's... During the test his suit leaked but he kept going http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project \ _Excelsior [ wikipedia.org ] Video here : http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = hcT8lKKpeXs&amp;feature = related [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't see why ANY of this is a big deal.
Joe Kittinger RODE a balloon up over 100,000 and then jumped out, with cameras rolling.
OK, they weren't digital cameras, and the whole job cast a lot more than $200.
but it was back in the 60's...  During the test his suit leaked but he kept going http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project\_Excelsior [wikipedia.org] Video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcT8lKKpeXs&amp;feature=related [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765593</id>
	<title>cheaper space lift</title>
	<author>triemer</author>
	<datestamp>1255624620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seriously take a look at <a href="http://jpaerospace.com/" title="jpaerospace.com" rel="nofollow">http://jpaerospace.com/</a> [jpaerospace.com]

Basically since we started Space travel we've been into macho cowboys who suit up, rocket scientists, and massive flight control systems.

Lets face it, the slow boat from Europe or the Middle East, or China still gets here, just a whole lot cheaper.

These balloon cams one day is going to get people into space thinking....   What if we could remove about a good 90\% of the thrust problem?  What if?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously take a look at http : //jpaerospace.com/ [ jpaerospace.com ] Basically since we started Space travel we 've been into macho cowboys who suit up , rocket scientists , and massive flight control systems .
Lets face it , the slow boat from Europe or the Middle East , or China still gets here , just a whole lot cheaper .
These balloon cams one day is going to get people into space thinking.... What if we could remove about a good 90 \ % of the thrust problem ?
What if ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously take a look at http://jpaerospace.com/ [jpaerospace.com]

Basically since we started Space travel we've been into macho cowboys who suit up, rocket scientists, and massive flight control systems.
Lets face it, the slow boat from Europe or the Middle East, or China still gets here, just a whole lot cheaper.
These balloon cams one day is going to get people into space thinking....   What if we could remove about a good 90\% of the thrust problem?
What if?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765539</id>
	<title>Your official guide to the Jigaboo presidency</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255624080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Congratulations on your purchase of a brand new nigger! If handled properly, your apeman will give years of valuable, if reluctant, service.</p><p>INSTALLING YOUR NIGGER.<br>You should install your nigger differently according to whether you have purchased the field or house model. Field niggers work best in a serial configuration, i.e. chained together. Chain your nigger to another nigger immediately after unpacking it, and don't even think about taking that chain off, ever. Many niggers start singing as soon as you put a chain on them. This habit can usually be thrashed out of them if nipped in the bud. House niggers work best as standalone units, but should be hobbled or hamstrung to prevent attempts at escape. At this stage, your nigger can also be given a name. Most owners use the same names over and over, since niggers become confused by too much data. Rufus, Rastus, Remus, Toby, Carslisle, Carlton, Hey-You!-Yes-you!, Yeller, Blackstar, and Sambo are all effective names for your new buck nigger. If your nigger is a ho, it should be called Latrelle, L'Tanya, or Jemima. Some owners call their nigger hoes Latrine for a joke. Pearl, Blossom, and Ivory are also righteous names for nigger hoes. These names go straight over your nigger's head, by the way.</p><p>CONFIGURING YOUR NIGGER<br>Owing to a design error, your nigger comes equipped with a tongue and vocal chords. Most niggers can master only a few basic human phrases with this apparatus - "muh dick" being the most popular. However, others make barking, yelping, yapping noises and appear to be in some pain, so you should probably call a vet and have him remove your nigger's tongue. Once de-tongued your nigger will be a lot happier - at least, you won't hear it complaining anywhere near as much. Niggers have nothing interesting to say, anyway. Many owners also castrate their niggers for health reasons (yours, mine, and that of women, not the nigger's). This is strongly recommended, and frankly, it's a mystery why this is not done on the boat</p><p>HOUSING YOUR NIGGER.<br>Your nigger can be accommodated in cages with stout iron bars. Make sure, however, that the bars are wide enough to push pieces of nigger food through. The rule of thumb is, four niggers per square yard of cage. So a fifteen foot by thirty foot nigger cage can accommodate two hundred niggers. You can site a nigger cage anywhere, even on soft ground. Don't worry about your nigger fashioning makeshift shovels out of odd pieces of wood and digging an escape tunnel under the bars of the cage. Niggers never invented the shovel before and they're not about to now. In any case, your nigger is certainly too lazy to attempt escape. As long as the free food holds out, your nigger is living better than it did in Africa, so it will stay put. Buck niggers and hoe niggers can be safely accommodated in the same cage, as bucks never attempt sex with black hoes.</p><p>FEEDING YOUR NIGGER.<br>Your Nigger likes fried chicken, corn bread, and watermelon. You should therefore give it none of these things because its lazy ass almost certainly doesn't deserve it. Instead, feed it on porridge with salt, and creek water. Your nigger will supplement its diet with whatever it finds in the fields, other niggers, etc. Experienced nigger owners sometimes push watermelon slices through the bars of the nigger cage at the end of the day as a treat, but only if all niggers have worked well and nothing has been stolen that day. Mike of the Old Ranch Plantation reports that this last one is a killer, since all niggers steal something almost every single day of their lives. He reports he doesn't have to spend much on free watermelon for his niggers as a result. You should never allow your nigger meal breaks while at work, since if it stops work for more than ten minutes it will need to be retrained. You would be surprised how long it takes to teach a nigger to pick cotton. You really would. Coffee beans? Don't ask. You have no idea.</p><p>MAKING YOUR NIGGER WORK.<br>Niggers are very, very averse to work of any kind. The nigger's most</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Congratulations on your purchase of a brand new nigger !
If handled properly , your apeman will give years of valuable , if reluctant , service.INSTALLING YOUR NIGGER.You should install your nigger differently according to whether you have purchased the field or house model .
Field niggers work best in a serial configuration , i.e .
chained together .
Chain your nigger to another nigger immediately after unpacking it , and do n't even think about taking that chain off , ever .
Many niggers start singing as soon as you put a chain on them .
This habit can usually be thrashed out of them if nipped in the bud .
House niggers work best as standalone units , but should be hobbled or hamstrung to prevent attempts at escape .
At this stage , your nigger can also be given a name .
Most owners use the same names over and over , since niggers become confused by too much data .
Rufus , Rastus , Remus , Toby , Carslisle , Carlton , Hey-You ! -Yes-you ! , Yeller , Blackstar , and Sambo are all effective names for your new buck nigger .
If your nigger is a ho , it should be called Latrelle , L'Tanya , or Jemima .
Some owners call their nigger hoes Latrine for a joke .
Pearl , Blossom , and Ivory are also righteous names for nigger hoes .
These names go straight over your nigger 's head , by the way.CONFIGURING YOUR NIGGEROwing to a design error , your nigger comes equipped with a tongue and vocal chords .
Most niggers can master only a few basic human phrases with this apparatus - " muh dick " being the most popular .
However , others make barking , yelping , yapping noises and appear to be in some pain , so you should probably call a vet and have him remove your nigger 's tongue .
Once de-tongued your nigger will be a lot happier - at least , you wo n't hear it complaining anywhere near as much .
Niggers have nothing interesting to say , anyway .
Many owners also castrate their niggers for health reasons ( yours , mine , and that of women , not the nigger 's ) .
This is strongly recommended , and frankly , it 's a mystery why this is not done on the boatHOUSING YOUR NIGGER.Your nigger can be accommodated in cages with stout iron bars .
Make sure , however , that the bars are wide enough to push pieces of nigger food through .
The rule of thumb is , four niggers per square yard of cage .
So a fifteen foot by thirty foot nigger cage can accommodate two hundred niggers .
You can site a nigger cage anywhere , even on soft ground .
Do n't worry about your nigger fashioning makeshift shovels out of odd pieces of wood and digging an escape tunnel under the bars of the cage .
Niggers never invented the shovel before and they 're not about to now .
In any case , your nigger is certainly too lazy to attempt escape .
As long as the free food holds out , your nigger is living better than it did in Africa , so it will stay put .
Buck niggers and hoe niggers can be safely accommodated in the same cage , as bucks never attempt sex with black hoes.FEEDING YOUR NIGGER.Your Nigger likes fried chicken , corn bread , and watermelon .
You should therefore give it none of these things because its lazy ass almost certainly does n't deserve it .
Instead , feed it on porridge with salt , and creek water .
Your nigger will supplement its diet with whatever it finds in the fields , other niggers , etc .
Experienced nigger owners sometimes push watermelon slices through the bars of the nigger cage at the end of the day as a treat , but only if all niggers have worked well and nothing has been stolen that day .
Mike of the Old Ranch Plantation reports that this last one is a killer , since all niggers steal something almost every single day of their lives .
He reports he does n't have to spend much on free watermelon for his niggers as a result .
You should never allow your nigger meal breaks while at work , since if it stops work for more than ten minutes it will need to be retrained .
You would be surprised how long it takes to teach a nigger to pick cotton .
You really would .
Coffee beans ?
Do n't ask .
You have no idea.MAKING YOUR NIGGER WORK.Niggers are very , very averse to work of any kind .
The nigger 's most</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Congratulations on your purchase of a brand new nigger!
If handled properly, your apeman will give years of valuable, if reluctant, service.INSTALLING YOUR NIGGER.You should install your nigger differently according to whether you have purchased the field or house model.
Field niggers work best in a serial configuration, i.e.
chained together.
Chain your nigger to another nigger immediately after unpacking it, and don't even think about taking that chain off, ever.
Many niggers start singing as soon as you put a chain on them.
This habit can usually be thrashed out of them if nipped in the bud.
House niggers work best as standalone units, but should be hobbled or hamstrung to prevent attempts at escape.
At this stage, your nigger can also be given a name.
Most owners use the same names over and over, since niggers become confused by too much data.
Rufus, Rastus, Remus, Toby, Carslisle, Carlton, Hey-You!-Yes-you!, Yeller, Blackstar, and Sambo are all effective names for your new buck nigger.
If your nigger is a ho, it should be called Latrelle, L'Tanya, or Jemima.
Some owners call their nigger hoes Latrine for a joke.
Pearl, Blossom, and Ivory are also righteous names for nigger hoes.
These names go straight over your nigger's head, by the way.CONFIGURING YOUR NIGGEROwing to a design error, your nigger comes equipped with a tongue and vocal chords.
Most niggers can master only a few basic human phrases with this apparatus - "muh dick" being the most popular.
However, others make barking, yelping, yapping noises and appear to be in some pain, so you should probably call a vet and have him remove your nigger's tongue.
Once de-tongued your nigger will be a lot happier - at least, you won't hear it complaining anywhere near as much.
Niggers have nothing interesting to say, anyway.
Many owners also castrate their niggers for health reasons (yours, mine, and that of women, not the nigger's).
This is strongly recommended, and frankly, it's a mystery why this is not done on the boatHOUSING YOUR NIGGER.Your nigger can be accommodated in cages with stout iron bars.
Make sure, however, that the bars are wide enough to push pieces of nigger food through.
The rule of thumb is, four niggers per square yard of cage.
So a fifteen foot by thirty foot nigger cage can accommodate two hundred niggers.
You can site a nigger cage anywhere, even on soft ground.
Don't worry about your nigger fashioning makeshift shovels out of odd pieces of wood and digging an escape tunnel under the bars of the cage.
Niggers never invented the shovel before and they're not about to now.
In any case, your nigger is certainly too lazy to attempt escape.
As long as the free food holds out, your nigger is living better than it did in Africa, so it will stay put.
Buck niggers and hoe niggers can be safely accommodated in the same cage, as bucks never attempt sex with black hoes.FEEDING YOUR NIGGER.Your Nigger likes fried chicken, corn bread, and watermelon.
You should therefore give it none of these things because its lazy ass almost certainly doesn't deserve it.
Instead, feed it on porridge with salt, and creek water.
Your nigger will supplement its diet with whatever it finds in the fields, other niggers, etc.
Experienced nigger owners sometimes push watermelon slices through the bars of the nigger cage at the end of the day as a treat, but only if all niggers have worked well and nothing has been stolen that day.
Mike of the Old Ranch Plantation reports that this last one is a killer, since all niggers steal something almost every single day of their lives.
He reports he doesn't have to spend much on free watermelon for his niggers as a result.
You should never allow your nigger meal breaks while at work, since if it stops work for more than ten minutes it will need to be retrained.
You would be surprised how long it takes to teach a nigger to pick cotton.
You really would.
Coffee beans?
Don't ask.
You have no idea.MAKING YOUR NIGGER WORK.Niggers are very, very averse to work of any kind.
The nigger's most</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765893</id>
	<title>Re:So what...</title>
	<author>anexkahn</author>
	<datestamp>1255629120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was about to ask the same question</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was about to ask the same question</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was about to ask the same question</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29768323</id>
	<title>Feet? Whose feet?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255706400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>An ant's feet? An elephant's? Obama's? My grandma's?</p><p>God, people, use real units or shut up! Or, at least while posting on slashdot, use "average car length" as unit...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>An ant 's feet ?
An elephant 's ?
Obama 's ? My grandma 's ? God , people , use real units or shut up !
Or , at least while posting on slashdot , use " average car length " as unit.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An ant's feet?
An elephant's?
Obama's? My grandma's?God, people, use real units or shut up!
Or, at least while posting on slashdot, use "average car length" as unit...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29778203</id>
	<title>Re:cheaper space lift</title>
	<author>Teancum</author>
	<datestamp>1255800840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem is that this doesn't remove 90\% of the thrust problem.  It only removes about 3\%.  Actually it is even less than that.</p><p>Yes, I've seen the JP Aerospace efforts, and that is certainly is an interesting concept.  The #1 benefit that comes from launching at high altitude is that you don't have to worry about the troposphere and weather:  You pretty much can launch whenever the equipment is ready and when the launch windows is open without having to worry about something like a lightning storm, tornado, or hurricane coming along to delay the launch for a month or so.  That is a common problem in Florida and KSC in particular.</p><p>Also, with a balloon you don't have to worry about building a concrete launch pad and blockhouse that will have to deflect the flames of the launch vehicle when a rocket fires for the first time.  That is also a considerable part of the expense in launching rockets that is often ignored when calculating launch costs.  From a pure economics standpoint, there are some decided advantages to an air launch.</p><p>This said, launching from the ground does allow technicians to do some last minute tweaks that can't be done from the air, and it offers some other advantages including larger launch vehicles that aren't possible with air launch methods.  Saving fuel costs... if that was even a major consideration for orbital launch vehicles (which it isn't), really isn't a major issue or a reason to prefer air launches.  A rocket going into orbit has to be about the same size regardless of the location it is launched... within some margin of error.  The Lattitude of the launch site has a much stronger influence, where launching from the equator is much better than launching from mid-lattitudes like the Russians have their launch complex.  Even that is located in what was one of the most southern locations in the old USSR (with a good buffer to keep "spies" and random tourists away).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is that this does n't remove 90 \ % of the thrust problem .
It only removes about 3 \ % .
Actually it is even less than that.Yes , I 've seen the JP Aerospace efforts , and that is certainly is an interesting concept .
The # 1 benefit that comes from launching at high altitude is that you do n't have to worry about the troposphere and weather : You pretty much can launch whenever the equipment is ready and when the launch windows is open without having to worry about something like a lightning storm , tornado , or hurricane coming along to delay the launch for a month or so .
That is a common problem in Florida and KSC in particular.Also , with a balloon you do n't have to worry about building a concrete launch pad and blockhouse that will have to deflect the flames of the launch vehicle when a rocket fires for the first time .
That is also a considerable part of the expense in launching rockets that is often ignored when calculating launch costs .
From a pure economics standpoint , there are some decided advantages to an air launch.This said , launching from the ground does allow technicians to do some last minute tweaks that ca n't be done from the air , and it offers some other advantages including larger launch vehicles that are n't possible with air launch methods .
Saving fuel costs... if that was even a major consideration for orbital launch vehicles ( which it is n't ) , really is n't a major issue or a reason to prefer air launches .
A rocket going into orbit has to be about the same size regardless of the location it is launched... within some margin of error .
The Lattitude of the launch site has a much stronger influence , where launching from the equator is much better than launching from mid-lattitudes like the Russians have their launch complex .
Even that is located in what was one of the most southern locations in the old USSR ( with a good buffer to keep " spies " and random tourists away ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is that this doesn't remove 90\% of the thrust problem.
It only removes about 3\%.
Actually it is even less than that.Yes, I've seen the JP Aerospace efforts, and that is certainly is an interesting concept.
The #1 benefit that comes from launching at high altitude is that you don't have to worry about the troposphere and weather:  You pretty much can launch whenever the equipment is ready and when the launch windows is open without having to worry about something like a lightning storm, tornado, or hurricane coming along to delay the launch for a month or so.
That is a common problem in Florida and KSC in particular.Also, with a balloon you don't have to worry about building a concrete launch pad and blockhouse that will have to deflect the flames of the launch vehicle when a rocket fires for the first time.
That is also a considerable part of the expense in launching rockets that is often ignored when calculating launch costs.
From a pure economics standpoint, there are some decided advantages to an air launch.This said, launching from the ground does allow technicians to do some last minute tweaks that can't be done from the air, and it offers some other advantages including larger launch vehicles that aren't possible with air launch methods.
Saving fuel costs... if that was even a major consideration for orbital launch vehicles (which it isn't), really isn't a major issue or a reason to prefer air launches.
A rocket going into orbit has to be about the same size regardless of the location it is launched... within some margin of error.
The Lattitude of the launch site has a much stronger influence, where launching from the equator is much better than launching from mid-lattitudes like the Russians have their launch complex.
Even that is located in what was one of the most southern locations in the old USSR (with a good buffer to keep "spies" and random tourists away).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765495</id>
	<title>Should have used hydrogen.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255623540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>After all, we aren't talking about Hindenberg here.  Save the Helium!  Save the whales!</htmltext>
<tokenext>After all , we are n't talking about Hindenberg here .
Save the Helium !
Save the whales !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After all, we aren't talking about Hindenberg here.
Save the Helium!
Save the whales!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29766003</id>
	<title>ICBNN mission - similar project, nice pictures</title>
	<author>myzz</author>
	<datestamp>1255631220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Used a hacked Cannon camera.</p><p><a href="http://www.francescobonomi.it/ICBNN" title="francescobonomi.it" rel="nofollow">http://www.francescobonomi.it/ICBNN</a> [francescobonomi.it]<br><a href="http://icbnn.wordpress.com/" title="wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://icbnn.wordpress.com/</a> [wordpress.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Used a hacked Cannon camera.http : //www.francescobonomi.it/ICBNN [ francescobonomi.it ] http : //icbnn.wordpress.com/ [ wordpress.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Used a hacked Cannon camera.http://www.francescobonomi.it/ICBNN [francescobonomi.it]http://icbnn.wordpress.com/ [wordpress.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765637</id>
	<title>Re:Reported before</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255625280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...and even more amazing is that at about 800 sites around the world, various national weather services do this same thing twice daily.  Oh and they have been doing it at least since the 1950's.</p><p>100,000 feet is nothing special.  They regularly go higher than that.</p><p>Anyhow, this is how most of the atmospheric layer and wind information is obtained ---  not by satellite.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...and even more amazing is that at about 800 sites around the world , various national weather services do this same thing twice daily .
Oh and they have been doing it at least since the 1950 's.100,000 feet is nothing special .
They regularly go higher than that.Anyhow , this is how most of the atmospheric layer and wind information is obtained --- not by satellite .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and even more amazing is that at about 800 sites around the world, various national weather services do this same thing twice daily.
Oh and they have been doing it at least since the 1950's.100,000 feet is nothing special.
They regularly go higher than that.Anyhow, this is how most of the atmospheric layer and wind information is obtained ---  not by satellite.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765919</id>
	<title>Um...</title>
	<author>chucklebutte</author>
	<datestamp>1255629540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wasnt this already done by someone else a few weeks back? Or is it same guy and<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. is just a tad bit behind in the news?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wasnt this already done by someone else a few weeks back ?
Or is it same guy and / .
is just a tad bit behind in the news ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wasnt this already done by someone else a few weeks back?
Or is it same guy and /.
is just a tad bit behind in the news?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29772327</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck Deakin</title>
	<author>mortuus</author>
	<datestamp>1255683720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I say that I got University support, I meant that they were happy for me to do this as my final year project - they didn't fund me in any way and pretty much nobody (other than my supervisor) at Deakin would have known about the project until now.</p><p>In 3rd year before we start on our final year projects we have to give a presentation justifying what we are intending to do for our final year project. I put together a presentation talking about all the challenges involved and the successes that other groups have had, I guess my lecturer liked it and it went from there. The project was a pretty risky choice, I could have lost everything. Most other engineering students pick the pre-determined projects which are a lot safer. We are given freedom to do whatever project we want though, and for me this was a pretty good excuse to try a high altitude balloon launch which I'd wanted to do for years. Maybe the academics in your school/department are different, but I found mine to all be very helpful and supportive.</p><p>If you're still interested in doing a launch let me know, I live in Melbourne too and can probably help you out with equipment. I've got lots of manufacturer sample micros/sensors and other misc semiconductors that you could use. Let me know: gmmcc AT deakin DOT edu DOT au</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I say that I got University support , I meant that they were happy for me to do this as my final year project - they did n't fund me in any way and pretty much nobody ( other than my supervisor ) at Deakin would have known about the project until now.In 3rd year before we start on our final year projects we have to give a presentation justifying what we are intending to do for our final year project .
I put together a presentation talking about all the challenges involved and the successes that other groups have had , I guess my lecturer liked it and it went from there .
The project was a pretty risky choice , I could have lost everything .
Most other engineering students pick the pre-determined projects which are a lot safer .
We are given freedom to do whatever project we want though , and for me this was a pretty good excuse to try a high altitude balloon launch which I 'd wanted to do for years .
Maybe the academics in your school/department are different , but I found mine to all be very helpful and supportive.If you 're still interested in doing a launch let me know , I live in Melbourne too and can probably help you out with equipment .
I 've got lots of manufacturer sample micros/sensors and other misc semiconductors that you could use .
Let me know : gmmcc AT deakin DOT edu DOT au</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I say that I got University support, I meant that they were happy for me to do this as my final year project - they didn't fund me in any way and pretty much nobody (other than my supervisor) at Deakin would have known about the project until now.In 3rd year before we start on our final year projects we have to give a presentation justifying what we are intending to do for our final year project.
I put together a presentation talking about all the challenges involved and the successes that other groups have had, I guess my lecturer liked it and it went from there.
The project was a pretty risky choice, I could have lost everything.
Most other engineering students pick the pre-determined projects which are a lot safer.
We are given freedom to do whatever project we want though, and for me this was a pretty good excuse to try a high altitude balloon launch which I'd wanted to do for years.
Maybe the academics in your school/department are different, but I found mine to all be very helpful and supportive.If you're still interested in doing a launch let me know, I live in Melbourne too and can probably help you out with equipment.
I've got lots of manufacturer sample micros/sensors and other misc semiconductors that you could use.
Let me know: gmmcc AT deakin DOT edu DOT au</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765485</id>
	<title>So what...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255623360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Didn't some kids at MIT send a balloon out of the atmosphere for less than $150 USD recently? What's so special about this?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did n't some kids at MIT send a balloon out of the atmosphere for less than $ 150 USD recently ?
What 's so special about this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Didn't some kids at MIT send a balloon out of the atmosphere for less than $150 USD recently?
What's so special about this?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29767565</id>
	<title>What would be interesting...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255701240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I estimate 10 million of these balloons have been launched with sensing instruments and radio telemetry.  (Twice a day, more than 50 years, 800 sites currently but hundreds since the 1960's=  2x50x365x400 = more than 10 M).  There is nothing very interesting about these students doing it.</p><p>These camera stories are kind of "eye-candy" science: pleasing to look at but not much substance.  There is no trick to launching a balloon with a camera attached...  and apart from being outright fun, there isn't any research advancement either into atmospherics or into the engineering technology of launching an instrument package with a balloon.  They even do it the easy (safe) way with helium instead of hydrogen.  BTW, this is kind of wasteful.  Helium is a scarce resource.</p><p>The current telemetry packages attached to the weather balloons contain a telemetry transmitter, a GPS receiver, and humidity/temperature sensors.  This provides wind speed, direction, altitude, location, temperature, and humidity.</p><p>Now, if the students did something interesting such as:</p><p>1. Adding in a light weight low-cost stabilizer and remote control package to steady and aim the camera<br>2. Modify the camera with filters to observe a parameter that is not usually measured (ie: perhaps infrared, uv, etc)<br>3. Attach a laser and test out a methodology for measuring parameters within a range of the balloon<br>4. Create a 360 scanning system and analyze the images in real time to provide cloud formation information<br>5. Created a wireless grid that co-ordinated and measured information from multiple synchronous balloon launces in the same relative area<br>6. or something else creative, imaginative, and useful</p><p>THEN this would be an interesting story.  Else just fluff.</p><p>If<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. publishes another "student loses camera attached to stupid weather balloon" then I'm going to start submitting pictures of our pets.  "Man uses $1000 camera to take thousands of pictures of children and dogs".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I estimate 10 million of these balloons have been launched with sensing instruments and radio telemetry .
( Twice a day , more than 50 years , 800 sites currently but hundreds since the 1960 's = 2x50x365x400 = more than 10 M ) .
There is nothing very interesting about these students doing it.These camera stories are kind of " eye-candy " science : pleasing to look at but not much substance .
There is no trick to launching a balloon with a camera attached... and apart from being outright fun , there is n't any research advancement either into atmospherics or into the engineering technology of launching an instrument package with a balloon .
They even do it the easy ( safe ) way with helium instead of hydrogen .
BTW , this is kind of wasteful .
Helium is a scarce resource.The current telemetry packages attached to the weather balloons contain a telemetry transmitter , a GPS receiver , and humidity/temperature sensors .
This provides wind speed , direction , altitude , location , temperature , and humidity.Now , if the students did something interesting such as : 1 .
Adding in a light weight low-cost stabilizer and remote control package to steady and aim the camera2 .
Modify the camera with filters to observe a parameter that is not usually measured ( ie : perhaps infrared , uv , etc ) 3 .
Attach a laser and test out a methodology for measuring parameters within a range of the balloon4 .
Create a 360 scanning system and analyze the images in real time to provide cloud formation information5 .
Created a wireless grid that co-ordinated and measured information from multiple synchronous balloon launces in the same relative area6 .
or something else creative , imaginative , and usefulTHEN this would be an interesting story .
Else just fluff.If / .
publishes another " student loses camera attached to stupid weather balloon " then I 'm going to start submitting pictures of our pets .
" Man uses $ 1000 camera to take thousands of pictures of children and dogs " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I estimate 10 million of these balloons have been launched with sensing instruments and radio telemetry.
(Twice a day, more than 50 years, 800 sites currently but hundreds since the 1960's=  2x50x365x400 = more than 10 M).
There is nothing very interesting about these students doing it.These camera stories are kind of "eye-candy" science: pleasing to look at but not much substance.
There is no trick to launching a balloon with a camera attached...  and apart from being outright fun, there isn't any research advancement either into atmospherics or into the engineering technology of launching an instrument package with a balloon.
They even do it the easy (safe) way with helium instead of hydrogen.
BTW, this is kind of wasteful.
Helium is a scarce resource.The current telemetry packages attached to the weather balloons contain a telemetry transmitter, a GPS receiver, and humidity/temperature sensors.
This provides wind speed, direction, altitude, location, temperature, and humidity.Now, if the students did something interesting such as:1.
Adding in a light weight low-cost stabilizer and remote control package to steady and aim the camera2.
Modify the camera with filters to observe a parameter that is not usually measured (ie: perhaps infrared, uv, etc)3.
Attach a laser and test out a methodology for measuring parameters within a range of the balloon4.
Create a 360 scanning system and analyze the images in real time to provide cloud formation information5.
Created a wireless grid that co-ordinated and measured information from multiple synchronous balloon launces in the same relative area6.
or something else creative, imaginative, and usefulTHEN this would be an interesting story.
Else just fluff.If /.
publishes another "student loses camera attached to stupid weather balloon" then I'm going to start submitting pictures of our pets.
"Man uses $1000 camera to take thousands of pictures of children and dogs".</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29776083</id>
	<title>Re:Why is this news?</title>
	<author>barakn</author>
	<datestamp>1255723080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Borealis program at Montana State University has been doing this since 2001.  <a href="http://spacegrant.montana.edu/borealis/" title="montana.edu">http://spacegrant.montana.edu/borealis/</a> [montana.edu]</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Borealis program at Montana State University has been doing this since 2001. http : //spacegrant.montana.edu/borealis/ [ montana.edu ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Borealis program at Montana State University has been doing this since 2001.  http://spacegrant.montana.edu/borealis/ [montana.edu]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765603</id>
	<title>Weather balloons</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255624800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Gee... meteorological services have been doing this for over 50 years.  40,000 meters is typical before the balloon bursts.</p><p>The balloons are easy to get.  Helium is safe but usually they use hydrogen generated on site by an accumulator.</p><p>Heh heh...  they used to make it chemically which led to some famous disasters (well... famous within the respective services).</p><p>BTW, it was sometimes fun to inflate one inside of a colleague's room/office while they were out.  Amazing how space filling they can be.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Gee... meteorological services have been doing this for over 50 years .
40,000 meters is typical before the balloon bursts.The balloons are easy to get .
Helium is safe but usually they use hydrogen generated on site by an accumulator.Heh heh... they used to make it chemically which led to some famous disasters ( well... famous within the respective services ) .BTW , it was sometimes fun to inflate one inside of a colleague 's room/office while they were out .
Amazing how space filling they can be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gee... meteorological services have been doing this for over 50 years.
40,000 meters is typical before the balloon bursts.The balloons are easy to get.
Helium is safe but usually they use hydrogen generated on site by an accumulator.Heh heh...  they used to make it chemically which led to some famous disasters (well... famous within the respective services).BTW, it was sometimes fun to inflate one inside of a colleague's room/office while they were out.
Amazing how space filling they can be.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29766157</id>
	<title>been done many times before...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255634580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What a lame story.</p><p>Amateur Radio operators started doing this ~15 years ago and still do it today. And on the cheap.. Check out the first HD video via balloon;</p><p>http://bear.sbszoo.com/bear3-4/bear4.htm</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What a lame story.Amateur Radio operators started doing this ~ 15 years ago and still do it today .
And on the cheap.. Check out the first HD video via balloon ; http : //bear.sbszoo.com/bear3-4/bear4.htm</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What a lame story.Amateur Radio operators started doing this ~15 years ago and still do it today.
And on the cheap.. Check out the first HD video via balloon;http://bear.sbszoo.com/bear3-4/bear4.htm</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765489</id>
	<title>Not comparing, but 2 MIT Students did this: $150</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255623420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/09/the-150-space-camera-mit-students-beat-nasa-on-beer-money-budget/" title="wired.com">From Wired</a> [wired.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>From Wired [ wired.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From Wired [wired.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29769535</id>
	<title>Open source tracking</title>
	<author>Rorschach1</author>
	<datestamp>1255712340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The black gadget at the top of the picture appears to be one of my OpenTracker+ kits - I see that Geoff ordered a couple back in May.  So I'm going to take this opportunity for a brief shameless plug:</p><p><a href="http://www.argentdata.com/products/otplus.html" title="argentdata.com">http://www.argentdata.com/products/otplus.html</a> [argentdata.com]</p><p>His main payload computer looks to be wholly custom-built, but the OpenTracker+ (that handles taking data from the GPS receiver and transmitting it over the radio) is an off-the-shelf kit that takes maybe an hour to build, if you don't want to pay an extra few bucks for a pre-assembled unit.</p><p>It's based on the Freescale MC908JL16 microcontroller, the full source code is available under the BSD license, and it'll compile with the free version of the Codewarrior IDE.  It's got a serial bootloader, so there's no need for a device programmer.  If you're comfortable with C programming, it's a very cheap way to build a simple, customizable tracking and telemetry system. Or just run the regular firmware and it'll do a whole bunch of stuff without modification.</p><p>Its larger cousin, the Tracker2, does a whole lot more and the code is released under GPLv3, but unfortunately you can't compile it with the free version of the IDE.  It does include a simple scripting engine, though - written mostly so balloon builders would stop bugging me with minor ad hoc changes for their particular setup.</p><p>Scott<br>N1VG</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The black gadget at the top of the picture appears to be one of my OpenTracker + kits - I see that Geoff ordered a couple back in May .
So I 'm going to take this opportunity for a brief shameless plug : http : //www.argentdata.com/products/otplus.html [ argentdata.com ] His main payload computer looks to be wholly custom-built , but the OpenTracker + ( that handles taking data from the GPS receiver and transmitting it over the radio ) is an off-the-shelf kit that takes maybe an hour to build , if you do n't want to pay an extra few bucks for a pre-assembled unit.It 's based on the Freescale MC908JL16 microcontroller , the full source code is available under the BSD license , and it 'll compile with the free version of the Codewarrior IDE .
It 's got a serial bootloader , so there 's no need for a device programmer .
If you 're comfortable with C programming , it 's a very cheap way to build a simple , customizable tracking and telemetry system .
Or just run the regular firmware and it 'll do a whole bunch of stuff without modification.Its larger cousin , the Tracker2 , does a whole lot more and the code is released under GPLv3 , but unfortunately you ca n't compile it with the free version of the IDE .
It does include a simple scripting engine , though - written mostly so balloon builders would stop bugging me with minor ad hoc changes for their particular setup.ScottN1VG</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The black gadget at the top of the picture appears to be one of my OpenTracker+ kits - I see that Geoff ordered a couple back in May.
So I'm going to take this opportunity for a brief shameless plug:http://www.argentdata.com/products/otplus.html [argentdata.com]His main payload computer looks to be wholly custom-built, but the OpenTracker+ (that handles taking data from the GPS receiver and transmitting it over the radio) is an off-the-shelf kit that takes maybe an hour to build, if you don't want to pay an extra few bucks for a pre-assembled unit.It's based on the Freescale MC908JL16 microcontroller, the full source code is available under the BSD license, and it'll compile with the free version of the Codewarrior IDE.
It's got a serial bootloader, so there's no need for a device programmer.
If you're comfortable with C programming, it's a very cheap way to build a simple, customizable tracking and telemetry system.
Or just run the regular firmware and it'll do a whole bunch of stuff without modification.Its larger cousin, the Tracker2, does a whole lot more and the code is released under GPLv3, but unfortunately you can't compile it with the free version of the IDE.
It does include a simple scripting engine, though - written mostly so balloon builders would stop bugging me with minor ad hoc changes for their particular setup.ScottN1VG</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29768467</id>
	<title>Re:We all know 'crime' pays...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255707180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In short: sometimes it is easier to ask forgiveness than permission.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In short : sometimes it is easier to ask forgiveness than permission .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In short: sometimes it is easier to ask forgiveness than permission.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29768249</id>
	<title>This isn't Science...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255705920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...it's Art (and it's been done before):<br>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/art-features/5777571/Simon-Faithfulls-Gravity-Sucks-furnitures-giant-leap.html</p><p>Strange how the Artist managed to get his images beamed back to Earth in realtime, but the techie just hit record then went looking for debris...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...it 's Art ( and it 's been done before ) : http : //www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/art-features/5777571/Simon-Faithfulls-Gravity-Sucks-furnitures-giant-leap.htmlStrange how the Artist managed to get his images beamed back to Earth in realtime , but the techie just hit record then went looking for debris.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...it's Art (and it's been done before):http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/art-features/5777571/Simon-Faithfulls-Gravity-Sucks-furnitures-giant-leap.htmlStrange how the Artist managed to get his images beamed back to Earth in realtime, but the techie just hit record then went looking for debris...</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Altitude</title>
	<author>LordSnooty</author>
	<datestamp>1255688460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hmm, sounds like a great idea for a movie...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm , sounds like a great idea for a movie.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm, sounds like a great idea for a movie...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765591</id>
	<title>God I hate Timothy</title>
	<author>Bakafish</author>
	<datestamp>1255624560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously, he has the most redundant, dupe, non-interesteing, so five weeks ago postings of all the editors here. What a waste of space.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , he has the most redundant , dupe , non-interesteing , so five weeks ago postings of all the editors here .
What a waste of space .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, he has the most redundant, dupe, non-interesteing, so five weeks ago postings of all the editors here.
What a waste of space.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765559</id>
	<title>Re:Altitude</title>
	<author>stillpixel</author>
	<datestamp>1255624260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wasn't something similar to this reported about a month or two ago?

oh yeah!
<ul>
<li>
<a href="http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/09/09/23/1958212/HD-Video-From-the-Edge-of-Space-On-the-Cheap" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/09/09/23/1958212/HD-Video-From-the-Edge-of-Space-On-the-Cheap</a> [slashdot.org] <br>(Posted by timothy on Wednesday September 23, @04:06PM )</li><li>
<a href="http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/03/18/1645216/DIY-Space-Photography" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/03/18/1645216/DIY-Space-Photography</a> [slashdot.org] <br> (Posted by samzenpus on Wednesday March 18 2009, @04:33PM )</li><li>
<a href="http://science.slashdot.org/story/06/09/30/0713205/Low-Cost-Panoramic-Views-From-112000-feet" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">http://science.slashdot.org/story/06/09/30/0713205/Low-Cost-Panoramic-Views-From-112000-feet</a> [slashdot.org]
<br>(Posted by Zonk on Saturday September 30 2006, @03:38AM) </li></ul><p>

Always interesting to see the twists applied to previous attempts at the same task.. I know what idea I'm putting in my 6 yr old's mind for his first science fair....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Was n't something similar to this reported about a month or two ago ?
oh yeah !
http : //hardware.slashdot.org/story/09/09/23/1958212/HD-Video-From-the-Edge-of-Space-On-the-Cheap [ slashdot.org ] ( Posted by timothy on Wednesday September 23 , @ 04 : 06PM ) http : //science.slashdot.org/story/09/03/18/1645216/DIY-Space-Photography [ slashdot.org ] ( Posted by samzenpus on Wednesday March 18 2009 , @ 04 : 33PM ) http : //science.slashdot.org/story/06/09/30/0713205/Low-Cost-Panoramic-Views-From-112000-feet [ slashdot.org ] ( Posted by Zonk on Saturday September 30 2006 , @ 03 : 38AM ) Always interesting to see the twists applied to previous attempts at the same task.. I know what idea I 'm putting in my 6 yr old 's mind for his first science fair... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wasn't something similar to this reported about a month or two ago?
oh yeah!
http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/09/09/23/1958212/HD-Video-From-the-Edge-of-Space-On-the-Cheap [slashdot.org] (Posted by timothy on Wednesday September 23, @04:06PM )
http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/03/18/1645216/DIY-Space-Photography [slashdot.org]  (Posted by samzenpus on Wednesday March 18 2009, @04:33PM )
http://science.slashdot.org/story/06/09/30/0713205/Low-Cost-Panoramic-Views-From-112000-feet [slashdot.org]
(Posted by Zonk on Saturday September 30 2006, @03:38AM) 

Always interesting to see the twists applied to previous attempts at the same task.. I know what idea I'm putting in my 6 yr old's mind for his first science fair....</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29766001</id>
	<title>Re:Aircraft Regulations?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255631220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The US guys that did this (after the Spanish guys did it) said as long as your payload is under 400g you don't need to get approval for launch under US regs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The US guys that did this ( after the Spanish guys did it ) said as long as your payload is under 400g you do n't need to get approval for launch under US regs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The US guys that did this (after the Spanish guys did it) said as long as your payload is under 400g you don't need to get approval for launch under US regs.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765635</id>
	<title>Re:So what...</title>
	<author>Max Littlemore</author>
	<datestamp>1255625220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>To be fair the US has much more helium than Australia and helium was the most expensive thing at ~US$230.</htmltext>
<tokenext>To be fair the US has much more helium than Australia and helium was the most expensive thing at ~ US $ 230 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To be fair the US has much more helium than Australia and helium was the most expensive thing at ~US$230.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Altitude</title>
	<author>aicrules</author>
	<datestamp>1255702500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>Yeah the twist on this one versus the others was that this crew boofed it and got basically zero good pictures by accidentally setting the shutterspeed to 1600.  Still cool, wouldn't mind doing one myself.  But really shows that it's important to pay attention when launching things into space.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah the twist on this one versus the others was that this crew boofed it and got basically zero good pictures by accidentally setting the shutterspeed to 1600 .
Still cool , would n't mind doing one myself .
But really shows that it 's important to pay attention when launching things into space .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah the twist on this one versus the others was that this crew boofed it and got basically zero good pictures by accidentally setting the shutterspeed to 1600.
Still cool, wouldn't mind doing one myself.
But really shows that it's important to pay attention when launching things into space.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29766015</id>
	<title>Augh! Not impressive!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255631400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People have been doing this for DECADES! What's with all the sudden press over random launches?</p><p>I know we do a few launches a year at University of Maryland, are we not just not as exciting or something?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People have been doing this for DECADES !
What 's with all the sudden press over random launches ? I know we do a few launches a year at University of Maryland , are we not just not as exciting or something ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People have been doing this for DECADES!
What's with all the sudden press over random launches?I know we do a few launches a year at University of Maryland, are we not just not as exciting or something?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Altitude</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255624920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That little balloon in the states couldn't have lifted at all with a child inside. Somebody should have realized that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That little balloon in the states could n't have lifted at all with a child inside .
Somebody should have realized that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That little balloon in the states couldn't have lifted at all with a child inside.
Somebody should have realized that.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765807</id>
	<title>Re:So what...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255627860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What's so special about those MIT kids? Didn't they just copy the Spanish students who did it first?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's so special about those MIT kids ?
Did n't they just copy the Spanish students who did it first ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's so special about those MIT kids?
Didn't they just copy the Spanish students who did it first?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29772339</id>
	<title>Re:So what...</title>
	<author>physburn</author>
	<datestamp>1255683780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No idea whats special. University's, Weather stations, and Cosmic Ray Physics
have been sending observing equipment up on balloons over a hundred years.
China is supposed to have unmanned balloons since 220BC.
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<tokenext>No idea whats special .
University 's , Weather stations , and Cosmic Ray Physics have been sending observing equipment up on balloons over a hundred years .
China is supposed to have unmanned balloons since 220BC .
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<sentencetext>No idea whats special.
University's, Weather stations, and Cosmic Ray Physics
have been sending observing equipment up on balloons over a hundred years.
China is supposed to have unmanned balloons since 220BC.
---

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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765625</id>
	<title>Aussie dollars rising fast like the balloon</title>
	<author>ignavus</author>
	<datestamp>1255625100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>approximately AUD$250 (~USD$200)</p></div><p>Um, the AUD is worth more than USD$0.92</p><p>So that AUD$250 is more like USD$230</p><p>Try to keep up with the economy.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>approximately AUD $ 250 ( ~ USD $ 200 ) Um , the AUD is worth more than USD $ 0.92So that AUD $ 250 is more like USD $ 230Try to keep up with the economy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>approximately AUD$250 (~USD$200)Um, the AUD is worth more than USD$0.92So that AUD$250 is more like USD$230Try to keep up with the economy.
	</sentencetext>
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	<title>Too easy...</title>
	<author>ahow628</author>
	<datestamp>1255701180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Look at Slashdot just lobbing up softballs. Swing away, folks...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Look at Slashdot just lobbing up softballs .
Swing away , folks.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look at Slashdot just lobbing up softballs.
Swing away, folks...</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Altitude</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255691820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>We had - I believe - CNN on at work while this was unfolding.  One of the hot air balloon experts they had on air did say, "I don't think that it is possible for a balloon that size to lift a kid; look at how far over it has tilted - shouldn't do that with a payload onboard."</htmltext>
<tokenext>We had - I believe - CNN on at work while this was unfolding .
One of the hot air balloon experts they had on air did say , " I do n't think that it is possible for a balloon that size to lift a kid ; look at how far over it has tilted - should n't do that with a payload onboard .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We had - I believe - CNN on at work while this was unfolding.
One of the hot air balloon experts they had on air did say, "I don't think that it is possible for a balloon that size to lift a kid; look at how far over it has tilted - shouldn't do that with a payload onboard.
"</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Altitude</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255684200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't see why that's a big deal. Neil Armstrong went to the MOON in and made it back in one piece with cameras rolling. OK, they weren't digital cameras and the whole job cost a lot more than $200 but it was back in the 60s...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't see why that 's a big deal .
Neil Armstrong went to the MOON in and made it back in one piece with cameras rolling .
OK , they were n't digital cameras and the whole job cost a lot more than $ 200 but it was back in the 60s.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't see why that's a big deal.
Neil Armstrong went to the MOON in and made it back in one piece with cameras rolling.
OK, they weren't digital cameras and the whole job cost a lot more than $200 but it was back in the 60s...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29767225</id>
	<title>the most expensive part was buying the helium gas</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255697340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Must have been a piece of crap Digital Camera then, huh?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Must have been a piece of crap Digital Camera then , huh ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Must have been a piece of crap Digital Camera then, huh?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29766963</id>
	<title>We all know 'crime' pays...</title>
	<author>Animaether</author>
	<datestamp>1255692480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Ahh, the ways we could piss off the FAA. I know some of the regulations, and that's half of why I haven't built half the stuff I want to.</p></div></blockquote><p>Not too sure about Australia, but here in NL we have much the same regulations.</p><p>If I were to 'do the right thing' and write to the aviation authorities here saying I intend to let loose a big ol' helium balloon capable of reaching 30,000 feet and higher, with a digital camera attached, they would smack me down citing all sorts of safety regulations (camera into jet engine = potential loss of engine power and all that.. they tend to be less squishy than birds - which do enough damage as it is).</p><p>But if I were to 'just do it', I get to have a fun project, a great experience, and possibly awesome results to share with friends and indeed the world.  Last, but not least, very little chance that the authorities would come after me after-the-fact (unless the thing -did- get sucked into some jet engine or otherwise disrupted air traffic).</p><p>The same applies to ventures into abandoned factories, for example.  It's not your land, not your property, you're legally trespassing and if caught the owner will probably tell you to get the hell off of his property.. but you'll already have the experience of going there, maybe photos, etc.  If you were to write first, you've got odds against you.. if the owner says 'sure, go ahead', and you get into an accident at the site, they'll be liable.. odds are, thus, that you'll get a big fat "no, you may not go onto my property".</p><p>Rules may not be meant to be broken, but life tends to be more interesting when you do break them.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ahh , the ways we could piss off the FAA .
I know some of the regulations , and that 's half of why I have n't built half the stuff I want to.Not too sure about Australia , but here in NL we have much the same regulations.If I were to 'do the right thing ' and write to the aviation authorities here saying I intend to let loose a big ol ' helium balloon capable of reaching 30,000 feet and higher , with a digital camera attached , they would smack me down citing all sorts of safety regulations ( camera into jet engine = potential loss of engine power and all that.. they tend to be less squishy than birds - which do enough damage as it is ) .But if I were to 'just do it ' , I get to have a fun project , a great experience , and possibly awesome results to share with friends and indeed the world .
Last , but not least , very little chance that the authorities would come after me after-the-fact ( unless the thing -did- get sucked into some jet engine or otherwise disrupted air traffic ) .The same applies to ventures into abandoned factories , for example .
It 's not your land , not your property , you 're legally trespassing and if caught the owner will probably tell you to get the hell off of his property.. but you 'll already have the experience of going there , maybe photos , etc .
If you were to write first , you 've got odds against you.. if the owner says 'sure , go ahead ' , and you get into an accident at the site , they 'll be liable.. odds are , thus , that you 'll get a big fat " no , you may not go onto my property " .Rules may not be meant to be broken , but life tends to be more interesting when you do break them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ahh, the ways we could piss off the FAA.
I know some of the regulations, and that's half of why I haven't built half the stuff I want to.Not too sure about Australia, but here in NL we have much the same regulations.If I were to 'do the right thing' and write to the aviation authorities here saying I intend to let loose a big ol' helium balloon capable of reaching 30,000 feet and higher, with a digital camera attached, they would smack me down citing all sorts of safety regulations (camera into jet engine = potential loss of engine power and all that.. they tend to be less squishy than birds - which do enough damage as it is).But if I were to 'just do it', I get to have a fun project, a great experience, and possibly awesome results to share with friends and indeed the world.
Last, but not least, very little chance that the authorities would come after me after-the-fact (unless the thing -did- get sucked into some jet engine or otherwise disrupted air traffic).The same applies to ventures into abandoned factories, for example.
It's not your land, not your property, you're legally trespassing and if caught the owner will probably tell you to get the hell off of his property.. but you'll already have the experience of going there, maybe photos, etc.
If you were to write first, you've got odds against you.. if the owner says 'sure, go ahead', and you get into an accident at the site, they'll be liable.. odds are, thus, that you'll get a big fat "no, you may not go onto my property".Rules may not be meant to be broken, but life tends to be more interesting when you do break them.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29766635</id>
	<title>Indeed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255687020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seems to be quite popular recently anyway:</p><p>http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/09/the-150-space-camera-mit-students-beat-nasa-on-beer-money-budget/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems to be quite popular recently anyway : http : //www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/09/the-150-space-camera-mit-students-beat-nasa-on-beer-money-budget/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems to be quite popular recently anyway:http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/09/the-150-space-camera-mit-students-beat-nasa-on-beer-money-budget/</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765877</id>
	<title>Re:So what...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255628880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And all this coming from a fat gimp who sits in his moms basement typing out 'Worst episode....ever' comments and doing precisely nothing.</p><p>So STFU until YOU come back with YOUR pictures YOU got from YOUR sub $300 balloon floating around at 100,000 feet.</p><p>Losers like you are the exact reason why the USA is rapidly going down the tubes and will soon be a province of China.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And all this coming from a fat gimp who sits in his moms basement typing out 'Worst episode....ever ' comments and doing precisely nothing.So STFU until YOU come back with YOUR pictures YOU got from YOUR sub $ 300 balloon floating around at 100,000 feet.Losers like you are the exact reason why the USA is rapidly going down the tubes and will soon be a province of China .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And all this coming from a fat gimp who sits in his moms basement typing out 'Worst episode....ever' comments and doing precisely nothing.So STFU until YOU come back with YOUR pictures YOU got from YOUR sub $300 balloon floating around at 100,000 feet.Losers like you are the exact reason why the USA is rapidly going down the tubes and will soon be a province of China.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29767075</id>
	<title>Why not hydrogen?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255694940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Given the high cost of helium, why not use hydrogen? Helium is safer, of course, but it's not an issue in-flight when there's no human dangling from the balloon. There is a risk at the time of filling, but even then, I don't see how it's more dangerous than handling a bottle of propane for your kitchen. Especially outside. Leaking H2 will go straight up and will not build up to pose much of a threat.</p><p>Am I missing something?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Given the high cost of helium , why not use hydrogen ?
Helium is safer , of course , but it 's not an issue in-flight when there 's no human dangling from the balloon .
There is a risk at the time of filling , but even then , I do n't see how it 's more dangerous than handling a bottle of propane for your kitchen .
Especially outside .
Leaking H2 will go straight up and will not build up to pose much of a threat.Am I missing something ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given the high cost of helium, why not use hydrogen?
Helium is safer, of course, but it's not an issue in-flight when there's no human dangling from the balloon.
There is a risk at the time of filling, but even then, I don't see how it's more dangerous than handling a bottle of propane for your kitchen.
Especially outside.
Leaking H2 will go straight up and will not build up to pose much of a threat.Am I missing something?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29767183</id>
	<title>OpenAerialMap</title>
	<author>chrb</author>
	<datestamp>1255696740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This would be awesome for <a href="http://openaerialmap.org/Main\_Page" title="openaerialmap.org">OpenAerialMap</a> [openaerialmap.org]. It's a shame there's no freely available photography dataset of the world yet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This would be awesome for OpenAerialMap [ openaerialmap.org ] .
It 's a shame there 's no freely available photography dataset of the world yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This would be awesome for OpenAerialMap [openaerialmap.org].
It's a shame there's no freely available photography dataset of the world yet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765703</id>
	<title>Noooooooo....</title>
	<author>Qubit</author>
	<datestamp>1255626540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can just see the Australian patent lawyers revving their engines again. Thank goodness those MIT students did this before and have prior art so we won't see another stop-stealing-our-toy-designs lawsuit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can just see the Australian patent lawyers revving their engines again .
Thank goodness those MIT students did this before and have prior art so we wo n't see another stop-stealing-our-toy-designs lawsuit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can just see the Australian patent lawyers revving their engines again.
Thank goodness those MIT students did this before and have prior art so we won't see another stop-stealing-our-toy-designs lawsuit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765535</id>
	<title>Another Day, Another Balloon Cam</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255624080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now that the methodology has been worked out, sending a camera up to 100kft is becoming a pretty common university and ham club team project. Provided care is taken during assembly, the biggest gotchas are while inflating the balloon, and hoping the winds keep the payload over an area with suitable roads.</p><p>It'd be neat to see more teams collect additional science, with live TM for extra points. A few years back, a few college students in Beautiful B.C. <a href="http://hackaday.com/2005/01/12/homebrew-autonomous-high-altitude-glider/#more-136" title="hackaday.com">designed their own UAV</a> [hackaday.com], which flew home after release a 60kft. Nowadays, it's possible to take a crack at that without CS/EE-level knowledge of control logic, but would still be a neat challenge. Too bad FAA regs make it of iffy legality in the US.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now that the methodology has been worked out , sending a camera up to 100kft is becoming a pretty common university and ham club team project .
Provided care is taken during assembly , the biggest gotchas are while inflating the balloon , and hoping the winds keep the payload over an area with suitable roads.It 'd be neat to see more teams collect additional science , with live TM for extra points .
A few years back , a few college students in Beautiful B.C .
designed their own UAV [ hackaday.com ] , which flew home after release a 60kft .
Nowadays , it 's possible to take a crack at that without CS/EE-level knowledge of control logic , but would still be a neat challenge .
Too bad FAA regs make it of iffy legality in the US .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now that the methodology has been worked out, sending a camera up to 100kft is becoming a pretty common university and ham club team project.
Provided care is taken during assembly, the biggest gotchas are while inflating the balloon, and hoping the winds keep the payload over an area with suitable roads.It'd be neat to see more teams collect additional science, with live TM for extra points.
A few years back, a few college students in Beautiful B.C.
designed their own UAV [hackaday.com], which flew home after release a 60kft.
Nowadays, it's possible to take a crack at that without CS/EE-level knowledge of control logic, but would still be a neat challenge.
Too bad FAA regs make it of iffy legality in the US.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765543</id>
	<title>Re:So what...</title>
	<author>RuBLed</author>
	<datestamp>1255624140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And those MIT kids also managed to take better pictures unlike the overexposed earth taken at ISO 1600 FTFA</htmltext>
<tokenext>And those MIT kids also managed to take better pictures unlike the overexposed earth taken at ISO 1600 FTFA</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And those MIT kids also managed to take better pictures unlike the overexposed earth taken at ISO 1600 FTFA</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29767757</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward reduxed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255702860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A BBC show (Bang goes the theory) did this. Very similar concept, on a very similar budget, except he had the problem where the camera froze up.</p><p>http://testtubetelly.channel4.com/programmes/items/5514523</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A BBC show ( Bang goes the theory ) did this .
Very similar concept , on a very similar budget , except he had the problem where the camera froze up.http : //testtubetelly.channel4.com/programmes/items/5514523</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A BBC show (Bang goes the theory) did this.
Very similar concept, on a very similar budget, except he had the problem where the camera froze up.http://testtubetelly.channel4.com/programmes/items/5514523</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29766023</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck Deakin</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255631520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Have you considered a career in player hating? It seems like you'd be a natural. Plus, you get a cane!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you considered a career in player hating ?
It seems like you 'd be a natural .
Plus , you get a cane !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you considered a career in player hating?
It seems like you'd be a natural.
Plus, you get a cane!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765647</id>
	<title>Confirmation is important in science</title>
	<author>Chuck Chunder</author>
	<datestamp>1255625460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Now we can  say that all those stories about high altitude camera stealing gremlins probably aren't true..</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now we can say that all those stories about high altitude camera stealing gremlins probably are n't true. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now we can  say that all those stories about high altitude camera stealing gremlins probably aren't true..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765997</id>
	<title>Why is this news?</title>
	<author>Snowtred</author>
	<datestamp>1255631160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>This isn't something new, my undergrad university (DePauw University in Indiana) has been sending balloons 100,000 feet (I think our record is about 110,000) with digital cameras for about 5 years:

<a href="http://www.depauw.edu/acad/physics/base/" title="depauw.edu" rel="nofollow">http://www.depauw.edu/acad/physics/base/</a> [depauw.edu]

Each student had a pod with their own designed experiment, a requirement for a physics course.

We bought our system from Taylor University, who have been doing it twice as long.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is n't something new , my undergrad university ( DePauw University in Indiana ) has been sending balloons 100,000 feet ( I think our record is about 110,000 ) with digital cameras for about 5 years : http : //www.depauw.edu/acad/physics/base/ [ depauw.edu ] Each student had a pod with their own designed experiment , a requirement for a physics course .
We bought our system from Taylor University , who have been doing it twice as long .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This isn't something new, my undergrad university (DePauw University in Indiana) has been sending balloons 100,000 feet (I think our record is about 110,000) with digital cameras for about 5 years:

http://www.depauw.edu/acad/physics/base/ [depauw.edu]

Each student had a pod with their own designed experiment, a requirement for a physics course.
We bought our system from Taylor University, who have been doing it twice as long.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765787</id>
	<title>Re:Not comparing, but 2 MIT Students did this: $15</title>
	<author>king-hobo</author>
	<datestamp>1255627680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>my thoughts too...</htmltext>
<tokenext>my thoughts too.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>my thoughts too...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765623</id>
	<title>Sorry, even the MIT students were beaten up!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255625100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here is the news for some Spanish high-school kids achieving the feat much earlier than any undergrads:</p><p>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5005022/Teens-capture-images-of-space-with-56-camera-and-balloon.html</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here is the news for some Spanish high-school kids achieving the feat much earlier than any undergrads : http : //www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5005022/Teens-capture-images-of-space-with-56-camera-and-balloon.html</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here is the news for some Spanish high-school kids achieving the feat much earlier than any undergrads:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5005022/Teens-capture-images-of-space-with-56-camera-and-balloon.html</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765921</id>
	<title>Re:So what...</title>
	<author>citizenr</author>
	<datestamp>1255629540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>and this wasn't even $250, they didn't count APRS radio, camera and the rest of the gear. I can send payload to the moon for $250 if I count like they did.</htmltext>
<tokenext>and this was n't even $ 250 , they did n't count APRS radio , camera and the rest of the gear .
I can send payload to the moon for $ 250 if I count like they did .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and this wasn't even $250, they didn't count APRS radio, camera and the rest of the gear.
I can send payload to the moon for $250 if I count like they did.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765899</id>
	<title>Re:Altitude</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255629240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; I say send a UAV up with it.  Float it up, and then see how far you can fly/glide from 100k feet.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Ahh, the ways we could piss off the FAA.  I know some of the regulations, and that's half of why I haven't built half the stuff I want to.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>    I say send a UAV up with it .
Float it up , and then see how far you can fly/glide from 100k feet .
: )     Ahh , the ways we could piss off the FAA .
I know some of the regulations , and that 's half of why I have n't built half the stuff I want to .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
    I say send a UAV up with it.
Float it up, and then see how far you can fly/glide from 100k feet.
:)
    Ahh, the ways we could piss off the FAA.
I know some of the regulations, and that's half of why I haven't built half the stuff I want to.
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29768269</id>
	<title>Re:Reported before</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255706040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>Australian Student Balloon Rises 100,000 Feet, <b>With a Digital Camera</b></p> </div><p>they have been doing it at least since the 1950's</p></div><p>Umm, yeah, I'm gonna need a citation on that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Australian Student Balloon Rises 100,000 Feet , With a Digital Camera they have been doing it at least since the 1950'sUmm , yeah , I 'm gon na need a citation on that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Australian Student Balloon Rises 100,000 Feet, With a Digital Camera they have been doing it at least since the 1950'sUmm, yeah, I'm gonna need a citation on that.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29766069</id>
	<title>Re:Altitude</title>
	<author>zippthorne</author>
	<datestamp>1255632780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To be fair, it was kind of tough to tell the scale from the pictures of it flying.  Once it got close to the ground, it was obvious to anyone who'd seen that one episode of mythbusters like five years ago.  But until then, there just wasn't anything to reference its size to, except maybe the skin crinkle, which would have required extensive knowledge of the material to make judgements based upon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To be fair , it was kind of tough to tell the scale from the pictures of it flying .
Once it got close to the ground , it was obvious to anyone who 'd seen that one episode of mythbusters like five years ago .
But until then , there just was n't anything to reference its size to , except maybe the skin crinkle , which would have required extensive knowledge of the material to make judgements based upon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To be fair, it was kind of tough to tell the scale from the pictures of it flying.
Once it got close to the ground, it was obvious to anyone who'd seen that one episode of mythbusters like five years ago.
But until then, there just wasn't anything to reference its size to, except maybe the skin crinkle, which would have required extensive knowledge of the material to make judgements based upon.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765753</id>
	<title>Re:So what...</title>
	<author>thatskinnyguy</author>
	<datestamp>1255627260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Some people from Alberta took HD video of the whole thing on a budget. I think that is more impressive.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Some people from Alberta took HD video of the whole thing on a budget .
I think that is more impressive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some people from Alberta took HD video of the whole thing on a budget.
I think that is more impressive.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29766143</id>
	<title>Re:Altitude</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255634400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This work was supported by the Centre for Intelligent Systems Research CISR: http://www.deakin.edu.au/itri/cisr/index.php</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This work was supported by the Centre for Intelligent Systems Research CISR : http : //www.deakin.edu.au/itri/cisr/index.php</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This work was supported by the Centre for Intelligent Systems Research CISR: http://www.deakin.edu.au/itri/cisr/index.php</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765911</id>
	<title>Re:So what...</title>
	<author>LifesABeach</author>
	<datestamp>1255629360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>An in a related news story:<br>
<br>
<b>(Kennedy Flight Center)</b>  NASA Spokeswoman Carrice Light stated at a hastily assembled press conference at a local KFC at Tampa Bay, "NASA has done this many times, and will continue to do so."  Ms. Light also went on to say that NASA's projects to explore the heights of space are planned to go way beyond the 100KY Barrier,(short for 100,000 yard barrier), but that it still appears to be a major concern for NASA's administrators.  "With the tragic passing of Mr. Jackson, 'Moon Walking' will be indefinitely postponed."</htmltext>
<tokenext>An in a related news story : ( Kennedy Flight Center ) NASA Spokeswoman Carrice Light stated at a hastily assembled press conference at a local KFC at Tampa Bay , " NASA has done this many times , and will continue to do so .
" Ms. Light also went on to say that NASA 's projects to explore the heights of space are planned to go way beyond the 100KY Barrier , ( short for 100,000 yard barrier ) , but that it still appears to be a major concern for NASA 's administrators .
" With the tragic passing of Mr. Jackson , 'Moon Walking ' will be indefinitely postponed .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An in a related news story:

(Kennedy Flight Center)  NASA Spokeswoman Carrice Light stated at a hastily assembled press conference at a local KFC at Tampa Bay, "NASA has done this many times, and will continue to do so.
"  Ms. Light also went on to say that NASA's projects to explore the heights of space are planned to go way beyond the 100KY Barrier,(short for 100,000 yard barrier), but that it still appears to be a major concern for NASA's administrators.
"With the tragic passing of Mr. Jackson, 'Moon Walking' will be indefinitely postponed.
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29768309</id>
	<title>The untold story? It was an accident.</title>
	<author>rclandrum</author>
	<datestamp>1255706340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Same thing happened to me a few years ago at Disney World when I was attempting to juggle a hot dog, my digital camera, and some Mickey Mouse balloons I had bought for the kids.  The strings got tangled in the camera and when I went to munch on the hot dog, the balloon slipped from my fingers and I watched helplessly as my camera sailed into the unknown.<br> <br>

But it gets better!<br> <br>

Several weeks later, I received an anonymous UPS package containing my digital camera!  A quick glance showed that the Disney shots were still there, but there were some added shots that were somehow snapped on my camera's inadvertent journey.  Some brief examples:  (a) a shot of a 757 passenger jet with some astonished but blurred looking people looking out at Mickey; (2) a shot that showed a rocket launch  at the Cape - from above!; (3) a nice clear shot that showed another group of brightly painted balloons that read "Visit Exciting Sydney!"; (4) a dim but unmistakable shot of the Shuttle as it came in for re-entry.<br> <br>

Of course there were a bunch more boring random shots of earth from way up high, but who cares about those?<br> <br>

I suspect I am not alone in this - has anyone else ever run an inadvertent "experiment" that accidentally took you to the edge of space?  If getting close to the final frontier is actually this easy, it won't be long before we make it to the moon!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Same thing happened to me a few years ago at Disney World when I was attempting to juggle a hot dog , my digital camera , and some Mickey Mouse balloons I had bought for the kids .
The strings got tangled in the camera and when I went to munch on the hot dog , the balloon slipped from my fingers and I watched helplessly as my camera sailed into the unknown .
But it gets better !
Several weeks later , I received an anonymous UPS package containing my digital camera !
A quick glance showed that the Disney shots were still there , but there were some added shots that were somehow snapped on my camera 's inadvertent journey .
Some brief examples : ( a ) a shot of a 757 passenger jet with some astonished but blurred looking people looking out at Mickey ; ( 2 ) a shot that showed a rocket launch at the Cape - from above !
; ( 3 ) a nice clear shot that showed another group of brightly painted balloons that read " Visit Exciting Sydney !
" ; ( 4 ) a dim but unmistakable shot of the Shuttle as it came in for re-entry .
Of course there were a bunch more boring random shots of earth from way up high , but who cares about those ?
I suspect I am not alone in this - has anyone else ever run an inadvertent " experiment " that accidentally took you to the edge of space ?
If getting close to the final frontier is actually this easy , it wo n't be long before we make it to the moon !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Same thing happened to me a few years ago at Disney World when I was attempting to juggle a hot dog, my digital camera, and some Mickey Mouse balloons I had bought for the kids.
The strings got tangled in the camera and when I went to munch on the hot dog, the balloon slipped from my fingers and I watched helplessly as my camera sailed into the unknown.
But it gets better!
Several weeks later, I received an anonymous UPS package containing my digital camera!
A quick glance showed that the Disney shots were still there, but there were some added shots that were somehow snapped on my camera's inadvertent journey.
Some brief examples:  (a) a shot of a 757 passenger jet with some astonished but blurred looking people looking out at Mickey; (2) a shot that showed a rocket launch  at the Cape - from above!
; (3) a nice clear shot that showed another group of brightly painted balloons that read "Visit Exciting Sydney!
"; (4) a dim but unmistakable shot of the Shuttle as it came in for re-entry.
Of course there were a bunch more boring random shots of earth from way up high, but who cares about those?
I suspect I am not alone in this - has anyone else ever run an inadvertent "experiment" that accidentally took you to the edge of space?
If getting close to the final frontier is actually this easy, it won't be long before we make it to the moon!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765619</id>
	<title>Re:So what...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255625100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Source: <a href="http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/09/the-150-space-camera-mit-students-beat-nasa-on-beer-money-budget/" title="wired.com">http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/09/the-150-space-camera-mit-students-beat-nasa-on-beer-money-budget/</a> [wired.com]</p><p>The only real difference is that this one went a bit higher (100,000 ft) where as the MIT guys made it 93,000. Still pretty close though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Source : http : //www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/09/the-150-space-camera-mit-students-beat-nasa-on-beer-money-budget/ [ wired.com ] The only real difference is that this one went a bit higher ( 100,000 ft ) where as the MIT guys made it 93,000 .
Still pretty close though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Source: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/09/the-150-space-camera-mit-students-beat-nasa-on-beer-money-budget/ [wired.com]The only real difference is that this one went a bit higher (100,000 ft) where as the MIT guys made it 93,000.
Still pretty close though.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29766021</id>
	<title>Re:cheaper space lift</title>
	<author>QuantumG</author>
	<datestamp>1255631460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That joke has been up for decades now.. and yet people keep falling for it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That joke has been up for decades now.. and yet people keep falling for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That joke has been up for decades now.. and yet people keep falling for it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29767731</id>
	<title>Re:Aussie dollars rising fast like the balloon</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255702680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How is that flamebait? You don't like the exchange rate, ignavus shows you the plain and simple facts and HE's the flamebait?</p><p>"Keep up with the economy" might be harsh, but so are Americans when they still think their almighty dollar matters as much as before. It doesn't. ignavus is right when he says AUD$250 = USD$230.</p><p>Want another slap in the face? Here's a few more:<br>1 U.S. dollar = 1.03960046 Canadian dollars<br>1 U.S. dollar = 1.09039363 Australian dollars<br>1 U.S. dollar = 0.671456389 Euros<br>1 U.S. dollar = 91.2408759 Japanese yen</p><p>Wow. You're not even 4\% from the Canucks, not even 10\% from the Aussies and not even worth 100 yens anymore.</p><p>Good economic recovery, keep it up!</p><p>NOT!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/Borat</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How is that flamebait ?
You do n't like the exchange rate , ignavus shows you the plain and simple facts and HE 's the flamebait ?
" Keep up with the economy " might be harsh , but so are Americans when they still think their almighty dollar matters as much as before .
It does n't .
ignavus is right when he says AUD $ 250 = USD $ 230.Want another slap in the face ?
Here 's a few more : 1 U.S. dollar = 1.03960046 Canadian dollars1 U.S. dollar = 1.09039363 Australian dollars1 U.S. dollar = 0.671456389 Euros1 U.S. dollar = 91.2408759 Japanese yenWow .
You 're not even 4 \ % from the Canucks , not even 10 \ % from the Aussies and not even worth 100 yens anymore.Good economic recovery , keep it up ! NOT !
/Borat</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How is that flamebait?
You don't like the exchange rate, ignavus shows you the plain and simple facts and HE's the flamebait?
"Keep up with the economy" might be harsh, but so are Americans when they still think their almighty dollar matters as much as before.
It doesn't.
ignavus is right when he says AUD$250 = USD$230.Want another slap in the face?
Here's a few more:1 U.S. dollar = 1.03960046 Canadian dollars1 U.S. dollar = 1.09039363 Australian dollars1 U.S. dollar = 0.671456389 Euros1 U.S. dollar = 91.2408759 Japanese yenWow.
You're not even 4\% from the Canucks, not even 10\% from the Aussies and not even worth 100 yens anymore.Good economic recovery, keep it up!NOT!
/Borat</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29774159</id>
	<title>Re:What would be interesting...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255695480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've probably missed this, but how did the cost of his project compare the cost of the daily-launched balloons?  If it was lots cheaper, and the d/l statistics were similar<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... well, that would be a significant advance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've probably missed this , but how did the cost of his project compare the cost of the daily-launched balloons ?
If it was lots cheaper , and the d/l statistics were similar ... well , that would be a significant advance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've probably missed this, but how did the cost of his project compare the cost of the daily-launched balloons?
If it was lots cheaper, and the d/l statistics were similar ... well, that would be a significant advance.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29765981</id>
	<title>Re:Altitude</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255630920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why stop at a child?  Go float your house.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why stop at a child ?
Go float your house .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why stop at a child?
Go float your house.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29769321</id>
	<title>Re:We all know 'crime' pays...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255711440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's far easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's far easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's far easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29768073</id>
	<title>Re:Altitude</title>
	<author>Thing 1</author>
	<datestamp>1255705020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Cool music as well!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cool music as well !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cool music as well!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29782217</id>
	<title>Re:Altitude</title>
	<author>Luyseyal</author>
	<datestamp>1255806540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No offense to Armstrong, he has very large cajones, but I don't recall Neil jumping from orbit with the intention of landing on the earth with his own two legs.</p><p>Kittinger, FTW!<br>-l</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No offense to Armstrong , he has very large cajones , but I do n't recall Neil jumping from orbit with the intention of landing on the earth with his own two legs.Kittinger , FTW ! -l</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No offense to Armstrong, he has very large cajones, but I don't recall Neil jumping from orbit with the intention of landing on the earth with his own two legs.Kittinger, FTW!-l</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_16_0224256.29768511</id>
	<title>Re:Altitude</title>
	<author>dh0dges</author>
	<datestamp>1255707420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was commenting based on reports the balloon was 20 ft in diameter.  A 20 ft cylinder 6 ft tall would lift about 100 lb.  This was a prism with average height less than 3 ft.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was commenting based on reports the balloon was 20 ft in diameter .
A 20 ft cylinder 6 ft tall would lift about 100 lb .
This was a prism with average height less than 3 ft .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was commenting based on reports the balloon was 20 ft in diameter.
A 20 ft cylinder 6 ft tall would lift about 100 lb.
This was a prism with average height less than 3 ft.</sentencetext>
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	<title>200 USD eh...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255623600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Our dollar is better than that..<br>http://www.google.com/search?q=250+AUD+\%3D+\%3F+USD</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Our dollar is better than that..http : //www.google.com/search ? q = 250 + AUD + \ % 3D + \ % 3F + USD</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Our dollar is better than that..http://www.google.com/search?q=250+AUD+\%3D+\%3F+USD</sentencetext>
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