<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_15_1359243</id>
	<title>Hands-On Look At the BlackBerry Storm 2</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1255618680000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Barence writes <i>"PC Pro has had time to play with the <a href="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/15/blackberry-storm-2-review-first-look/">new BlackBerry Storm 2</a>, and came away impressed. The new touch system garners the most praise, doing away with the mechanical click screen of the original Storm &mdash; the new screen gives a kind of localised haptic feedback which 'feels just like clicking a button.' The phone, <a href="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/352507/rim-unveils-blackberry-storm-2">announced today</a>, also includes Wi-Fi, BlackBerry OS 5, and increased storage, so it's looking an enticing prospect. After the disappointment of the Palm Pre, could this be the smartphone to beat?"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Barence writes " PC Pro has had time to play with the new BlackBerry Storm 2 , and came away impressed .
The new touch system garners the most praise , doing away with the mechanical click screen of the original Storm    the new screen gives a kind of localised haptic feedback which 'feels just like clicking a button .
' The phone , announced today , also includes Wi-Fi , BlackBerry OS 5 , and increased storage , so it 's looking an enticing prospect .
After the disappointment of the Palm Pre , could this be the smartphone to beat ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Barence writes "PC Pro has had time to play with the new BlackBerry Storm 2, and came away impressed.
The new touch system garners the most praise, doing away with the mechanical click screen of the original Storm — the new screen gives a kind of localised haptic feedback which 'feels just like clicking a button.
' The phone, announced today, also includes Wi-Fi, BlackBerry OS 5, and increased storage, so it's looking an enticing prospect.
After the disappointment of the Palm Pre, could this be the smartphone to beat?
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758057</id>
	<title>Re:LOL</title>
	<author>Shane112358</author>
	<datestamp>1255624500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Palm Pre was certainly only a disappointment to those people who expected it to be the second coming of Jesus or to overtake the iPhone within months of release.  I have a Pre and it is the best phone I have ever owned.  The OS is top notch.  The hardware isn't perfect but neither was the iPhone when it came out.  As someone else said, the problem is that you need to compete with the ecology of Apple - not just the h/w or s/w.  So even if all the small shortcomings of WebOS are addressed, and the next Pre has none of the h/w issues of the first, and it's very popular - it still doesn't mean that it will "kill" the iPhone.

It will take a while - at least a year or so - for the iPhone to be dethroned by any competing architecture.  It will happen, for sure.  Whether it's one year or ten years from now is up to Apple, their competitors, and shear luck.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Palm Pre was certainly only a disappointment to those people who expected it to be the second coming of Jesus or to overtake the iPhone within months of release .
I have a Pre and it is the best phone I have ever owned .
The OS is top notch .
The hardware is n't perfect but neither was the iPhone when it came out .
As someone else said , the problem is that you need to compete with the ecology of Apple - not just the h/w or s/w .
So even if all the small shortcomings of WebOS are addressed , and the next Pre has none of the h/w issues of the first , and it 's very popular - it still does n't mean that it will " kill " the iPhone .
It will take a while - at least a year or so - for the iPhone to be dethroned by any competing architecture .
It will happen , for sure .
Whether it 's one year or ten years from now is up to Apple , their competitors , and shear luck .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Palm Pre was certainly only a disappointment to those people who expected it to be the second coming of Jesus or to overtake the iPhone within months of release.
I have a Pre and it is the best phone I have ever owned.
The OS is top notch.
The hardware isn't perfect but neither was the iPhone when it came out.
As someone else said, the problem is that you need to compete with the ecology of Apple - not just the h/w or s/w.
So even if all the small shortcomings of WebOS are addressed, and the next Pre has none of the h/w issues of the first, and it's very popular - it still doesn't mean that it will "kill" the iPhone.
It will take a while - at least a year or so - for the iPhone to be dethroned by any competing architecture.
It will happen, for sure.
Whether it's one year or ten years from now is up to Apple, their competitors, and shear luck.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29760567</id>
	<title>Re:What the hell mods?</title>
	<author>wastedlife</author>
	<datestamp>1255635420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Something is amiss, I've also noticed many unnecessary "Troll" and "Redundant" mods in other articles. I'm thinking its either a database cock-up or a bunch of sockpuppets simultaneously received mod points.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Something is amiss , I 've also noticed many unnecessary " Troll " and " Redundant " mods in other articles .
I 'm thinking its either a database cock-up or a bunch of sockpuppets simultaneously received mod points .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Something is amiss, I've also noticed many unnecessary "Troll" and "Redundant" mods in other articles.
I'm thinking its either a database cock-up or a bunch of sockpuppets simultaneously received mod points.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29759863</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29759405</id>
	<title>Re:On VZW do I want the Storm 2 or Android?</title>
	<author>LWATCDR</author>
	<datestamp>1255630380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think you get the pros and cons wrong.<br>The new Android phones for VZW are from Motorola. Motorola over all builds really good handsets that have been dull as dirt. They tend to have great build quality and sound quality. This shoals hopefully will live up to that standard.<br>From what I have seen messaging on the Android is very good.<br>Age? The BB is older than dirt and frankly is falling behind.</p><p>The Blackberry is great for exchange email. If you live and die by email then the blackberry should be high on your list.<br>If you want cool apps and a good browser and or if you live and die by GMail than take a hard look at Android.</p><p>I have a harder problem. Do I get an HTC Hero or wait for the Samsung Moment?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you get the pros and cons wrong.The new Android phones for VZW are from Motorola .
Motorola over all builds really good handsets that have been dull as dirt .
They tend to have great build quality and sound quality .
This shoals hopefully will live up to that standard.From what I have seen messaging on the Android is very good.Age ?
The BB is older than dirt and frankly is falling behind.The Blackberry is great for exchange email .
If you live and die by email then the blackberry should be high on your list.If you want cool apps and a good browser and or if you live and die by GMail than take a hard look at Android.I have a harder problem .
Do I get an HTC Hero or wait for the Samsung Moment ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you get the pros and cons wrong.The new Android phones for VZW are from Motorola.
Motorola over all builds really good handsets that have been dull as dirt.
They tend to have great build quality and sound quality.
This shoals hopefully will live up to that standard.From what I have seen messaging on the Android is very good.Age?
The BB is older than dirt and frankly is falling behind.The Blackberry is great for exchange email.
If you live and die by email then the blackberry should be high on your list.If you want cool apps and a good browser and or if you live and die by GMail than take a hard look at Android.I have a harder problem.
Do I get an HTC Hero or wait for the Samsung Moment?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29760101</id>
	<title>A BlackBerry user on BlackBerry's problems</title>
	<author>metamatic</author>
	<datestamp>1255633320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a BlackBerry Curve user, here are the things I find most annoying about the phone:
</p><ul>
<li>The OS requires all applications to be resident in system heap the whole time. This means that even though I have 2GB of flash memory free in the phone, I'm down to a couple of hundred KB of space for any additional apps I want.</li>

<li>Apps that perform background processing can interfere with voice calls.</li>

<li>For some unknown reason, TCP/IP over cell network has a different API from TCP/IP over wifi. That means apps have to be specifically (re)written to work with wifi. Most of them aren't, which means the wifi feature is only really useful for browsing the web. And since Opera Mini isn't written to work with wifi, you're stuck with the poor built-in browser.</li>

<li>No native IMAP support in the Mail program.</li>

<li>Even though development is in Java, the dev kit requires Windows.</li>

<li>The UI (including the new one in the Bold and Storm) has no decent toolkit, so apps have to roll their own controls, which means they tend to be bloated, which means you run out of heap faster.</li>
</ul><p>Does anyone know if BlackBerry are addressing some or all of these issues?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a BlackBerry Curve user , here are the things I find most annoying about the phone : The OS requires all applications to be resident in system heap the whole time .
This means that even though I have 2GB of flash memory free in the phone , I 'm down to a couple of hundred KB of space for any additional apps I want .
Apps that perform background processing can interfere with voice calls .
For some unknown reason , TCP/IP over cell network has a different API from TCP/IP over wifi .
That means apps have to be specifically ( re ) written to work with wifi .
Most of them are n't , which means the wifi feature is only really useful for browsing the web .
And since Opera Mini is n't written to work with wifi , you 're stuck with the poor built-in browser .
No native IMAP support in the Mail program .
Even though development is in Java , the dev kit requires Windows .
The UI ( including the new one in the Bold and Storm ) has no decent toolkit , so apps have to roll their own controls , which means they tend to be bloated , which means you run out of heap faster .
Does anyone know if BlackBerry are addressing some or all of these issues ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a BlackBerry Curve user, here are the things I find most annoying about the phone:

The OS requires all applications to be resident in system heap the whole time.
This means that even though I have 2GB of flash memory free in the phone, I'm down to a couple of hundred KB of space for any additional apps I want.
Apps that perform background processing can interfere with voice calls.
For some unknown reason, TCP/IP over cell network has a different API from TCP/IP over wifi.
That means apps have to be specifically (re)written to work with wifi.
Most of them aren't, which means the wifi feature is only really useful for browsing the web.
And since Opera Mini isn't written to work with wifi, you're stuck with the poor built-in browser.
No native IMAP support in the Mail program.
Even though development is in Java, the dev kit requires Windows.
The UI (including the new one in the Bold and Storm) has no decent toolkit, so apps have to roll their own controls, which means they tend to be bloated, which means you run out of heap faster.
Does anyone know if BlackBerry are addressing some or all of these issues?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758749</id>
	<title>Re:If they want the storm2 to be more successful..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255627440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You don't need to visit the store to switch a phone. First you'll need a spare phone handy to do the swap (GSM or Verizon). If you have a spare phone then all you need to do is go online and log into your account, switch the phone out in your account and magically the replacement phone is now activated.</p><p>I've done this several times on Verizon and it works.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't need to visit the store to switch a phone .
First you 'll need a spare phone handy to do the swap ( GSM or Verizon ) .
If you have a spare phone then all you need to do is go online and log into your account , switch the phone out in your account and magically the replacement phone is now activated.I 've done this several times on Verizon and it works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't need to visit the store to switch a phone.
First you'll need a spare phone handy to do the swap (GSM or Verizon).
If you have a spare phone then all you need to do is go online and log into your account, switch the phone out in your account and magically the replacement phone is now activated.I've done this several times on Verizon and it works.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29759199</id>
	<title>Re:Palm Pre</title>
	<author>DittoBox</author>
	<datestamp>1255629420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They may not have a huge network, but where I'm at it's identical to my old Verizon outfit. In fact, I'd argue that since I'm paying just a little over 50USD for unlimited data, unlimited mobile-to-mobile (regardless of carrier), unlimited text messages and 200\% more minutes I'm doing pretty damn good.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They may not have a huge network , but where I 'm at it 's identical to my old Verizon outfit .
In fact , I 'd argue that since I 'm paying just a little over 50USD for unlimited data , unlimited mobile-to-mobile ( regardless of carrier ) , unlimited text messages and 200 \ % more minutes I 'm doing pretty damn good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They may not have a huge network, but where I'm at it's identical to my old Verizon outfit.
In fact, I'd argue that since I'm paying just a little over 50USD for unlimited data, unlimited mobile-to-mobile (regardless of carrier), unlimited text messages and 200\% more minutes I'm doing pretty damn good.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758075</id>
	<title>Rolling disappointment</title>
	<author>Maury Markowitz</author>
	<datestamp>1255624560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; After the disappointment of the Palm Pre, could this be the smartphone to beat?</p><p>Does everyone already forget that the Pre was going to be the one to beat after the disappointment of the Storm? Clearly the Pre 2 will be the one to beat after the disappointment of the</p><p>There's nothing wrong with the Pre, and the "disappointment" has little to do with the phone. The disappointment is that it didn't stop the iPhone from clobbering them in the market in spite of the hue and cry from the haters and fanbois alike. If you define your disappointment by the lack of relative sales, then my guess is that this is going to be a disappointment too.</p><p>It's not about the phone, it's about what you can get onto the phone quickly and easily. Anyone that's Midomi'd a song while walking past a bar patio and then instantly downloaded it from iTunes knows what I mean. Consumers get this, and it seems only the self-declared "experts" who are missing this forest.</p><p>Maury</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; After the disappointment of the Palm Pre , could this be the smartphone to beat ? Does everyone already forget that the Pre was going to be the one to beat after the disappointment of the Storm ?
Clearly the Pre 2 will be the one to beat after the disappointment of theThere 's nothing wrong with the Pre , and the " disappointment " has little to do with the phone .
The disappointment is that it did n't stop the iPhone from clobbering them in the market in spite of the hue and cry from the haters and fanbois alike .
If you define your disappointment by the lack of relative sales , then my guess is that this is going to be a disappointment too.It 's not about the phone , it 's about what you can get onto the phone quickly and easily .
Anyone that 's Midomi 'd a song while walking past a bar patio and then instantly downloaded it from iTunes knows what I mean .
Consumers get this , and it seems only the self-declared " experts " who are missing this forest.Maury</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; After the disappointment of the Palm Pre, could this be the smartphone to beat?Does everyone already forget that the Pre was going to be the one to beat after the disappointment of the Storm?
Clearly the Pre 2 will be the one to beat after the disappointment of theThere's nothing wrong with the Pre, and the "disappointment" has little to do with the phone.
The disappointment is that it didn't stop the iPhone from clobbering them in the market in spite of the hue and cry from the haters and fanbois alike.
If you define your disappointment by the lack of relative sales, then my guess is that this is going to be a disappointment too.It's not about the phone, it's about what you can get onto the phone quickly and easily.
Anyone that's Midomi'd a song while walking past a bar patio and then instantly downloaded it from iTunes knows what I mean.
Consumers get this, and it seems only the self-declared "experts" who are missing this forest.Maury</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758271</id>
	<title>2 GB of Storage = Fail</title>
	<author>PerfectionLost</author>
	<datestamp>1255625340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>2 GB of Storage = Fail.  'nuff said.</htmltext>
<tokenext>2 GB of Storage = Fail .
'nuff said .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>2 GB of Storage = Fail.
'nuff said.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758715</id>
	<title>Re:"Developers, Developers, Developers..."</title>
	<author>mafian911</author>
	<datestamp>1255627260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I agree completely. To me, the blackberry is a bit of a relic. They can dress up blackberry's with new tech and a fancy new OS, but I have to say, the developer experience remains horrible. I'm surprised that Blackberry still has the reputation it has, to be honest. They may have been the first "cool" smartphone, but they can't ride that wave forever. If they want to continue to be a player in the smartphone market, they may need to reconsider their content strategy.

I suppose they can survive by holding their place as the "corporate phone". Corporations don't need content for their employees. They don't need data plans. They may be able to hang on in the "boring" smartphone space for a while, no doubt... Windows Mobile will be there only competitor there.

As for unseating iPhone... no chance. Not with their content model. It won't touch Android either, in my opinion.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree completely .
To me , the blackberry is a bit of a relic .
They can dress up blackberry 's with new tech and a fancy new OS , but I have to say , the developer experience remains horrible .
I 'm surprised that Blackberry still has the reputation it has , to be honest .
They may have been the first " cool " smartphone , but they ca n't ride that wave forever .
If they want to continue to be a player in the smartphone market , they may need to reconsider their content strategy .
I suppose they can survive by holding their place as the " corporate phone " .
Corporations do n't need content for their employees .
They do n't need data plans .
They may be able to hang on in the " boring " smartphone space for a while , no doubt... Windows Mobile will be there only competitor there .
As for unseating iPhone... no chance .
Not with their content model .
It wo n't touch Android either , in my opinion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree completely.
To me, the blackberry is a bit of a relic.
They can dress up blackberry's with new tech and a fancy new OS, but I have to say, the developer experience remains horrible.
I'm surprised that Blackberry still has the reputation it has, to be honest.
They may have been the first "cool" smartphone, but they can't ride that wave forever.
If they want to continue to be a player in the smartphone market, they may need to reconsider their content strategy.
I suppose they can survive by holding their place as the "corporate phone".
Corporations don't need content for their employees.
They don't need data plans.
They may be able to hang on in the "boring" smartphone space for a while, no doubt... Windows Mobile will be there only competitor there.
As for unseating iPhone... no chance.
Not with their content model.
It won't touch Android either, in my opinion.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758829</id>
	<title>Re:If they want the storm2 to be more successful..</title>
	<author>jeffmeden</author>
	<datestamp>1255627800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is a relevant complaint, except in the case of Verizon it takes a 90 second phone call to support (or use of an automated tool) in order to change phones.  As long as the new phone is compatible with the network, they will switch it over no questions asked.  Your hyperbole about how much easier this is to accomplish with a GSM SIM card is pretty, well, hyperbolic.  You may have had a point if you told us that contact lists in non-SIM enabled phones are harder to transfer, but again there are several tools thanks to Verizon that make it an easy task.  That being said, even if it were a hassle to switch devices when one broke, I still would never consider signing with ATT, Tmobile, or Sprint.  Their networks, in EVERY area I have traveled in the past few years, have been noticeably inferior to Verizon's.  I can't even remember the number of times I have had to say "here, use my phone, it works here" when traveling.  Too many, to be certain.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a relevant complaint , except in the case of Verizon it takes a 90 second phone call to support ( or use of an automated tool ) in order to change phones .
As long as the new phone is compatible with the network , they will switch it over no questions asked .
Your hyperbole about how much easier this is to accomplish with a GSM SIM card is pretty , well , hyperbolic .
You may have had a point if you told us that contact lists in non-SIM enabled phones are harder to transfer , but again there are several tools thanks to Verizon that make it an easy task .
That being said , even if it were a hassle to switch devices when one broke , I still would never consider signing with ATT , Tmobile , or Sprint .
Their networks , in EVERY area I have traveled in the past few years , have been noticeably inferior to Verizon 's .
I ca n't even remember the number of times I have had to say " here , use my phone , it works here " when traveling .
Too many , to be certain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a relevant complaint, except in the case of Verizon it takes a 90 second phone call to support (or use of an automated tool) in order to change phones.
As long as the new phone is compatible with the network, they will switch it over no questions asked.
Your hyperbole about how much easier this is to accomplish with a GSM SIM card is pretty, well, hyperbolic.
You may have had a point if you told us that contact lists in non-SIM enabled phones are harder to transfer, but again there are several tools thanks to Verizon that make it an easy task.
That being said, even if it were a hassle to switch devices when one broke, I still would never consider signing with ATT, Tmobile, or Sprint.
Their networks, in EVERY area I have traveled in the past few years, have been noticeably inferior to Verizon's.
I can't even remember the number of times I have had to say "here, use my phone, it works here" when traveling.
Too many, to be certain.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758051</id>
	<title>Re:"Developers, Developers, Developers..."</title>
	<author>PocariSweat1991</author>
	<datestamp>1255624440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The iPhone is also enticing for developers because you only have to develop for AT&amp;T's network and its restrictions.</p><p>When you develop an application for the BlackBerry, you could find that a feature that works on AT&amp;T doesn't work on Verizon, or behaving entirely differently on T-Mobile or Sprint.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The iPhone is also enticing for developers because you only have to develop for AT&amp;T 's network and its restrictions.When you develop an application for the BlackBerry , you could find that a feature that works on AT&amp;T does n't work on Verizon , or behaving entirely differently on T-Mobile or Sprint .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The iPhone is also enticing for developers because you only have to develop for AT&amp;T's network and its restrictions.When you develop an application for the BlackBerry, you could find that a feature that works on AT&amp;T doesn't work on Verizon, or behaving entirely differently on T-Mobile or Sprint.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29759151</id>
	<title>Re:Palm Pre</title>
	<author>Orbijx</author>
	<datestamp>1255629240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've used worse carriers.</p><p>See: MetroPCS, AT&amp;T.</p><p>Sprint may not be the best, but as long as you don't have to talk to them, the service is rather good. Only dropped calls I get are from MetroPCS users ("Hello, hello, hello" is not just their catchphrase, but the sound of their users trying to see if anyone's still on the line).</p><p>I do know and understand that not everyone gets good coverage on Sprint, and can only speak from my personal experiences, but I'm happy the Pre is at least offered on Sprint. Too many half-decent or better phones aren't (see: G1).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've used worse carriers.See : MetroPCS , AT&amp;T.Sprint may not be the best , but as long as you do n't have to talk to them , the service is rather good .
Only dropped calls I get are from MetroPCS users ( " Hello , hello , hello " is not just their catchphrase , but the sound of their users trying to see if anyone 's still on the line ) .I do know and understand that not everyone gets good coverage on Sprint , and can only speak from my personal experiences , but I 'm happy the Pre is at least offered on Sprint .
Too many half-decent or better phones are n't ( see : G1 ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've used worse carriers.See: MetroPCS, AT&amp;T.Sprint may not be the best, but as long as you don't have to talk to them, the service is rather good.
Only dropped calls I get are from MetroPCS users ("Hello, hello, hello" is not just their catchphrase, but the sound of their users trying to see if anyone's still on the line).I do know and understand that not everyone gets good coverage on Sprint, and can only speak from my personal experiences, but I'm happy the Pre is at least offered on Sprint.
Too many half-decent or better phones aren't (see: G1).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758019</id>
	<title>New Storm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255624320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whatever the outcome, ANYTHING that doesn't use itunes to sync = a win for me!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whatever the outcome , ANYTHING that does n't use itunes to sync = a win for me !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whatever the outcome, ANYTHING that doesn't use itunes to sync = a win for me!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29760927</id>
	<title>Re:LOL</title>
	<author>DrVomact</author>
	<datestamp>1255637220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't agree with the zero sum mentality of the X-killer remarks. Absolute dominance of a market is not necessarily a good thing, nor is a limited number of strong competitors necessarily a bad thing for them.</p><p>
I used to work for a company who made a specialized line of "supercomputers". We had about half a dozen competitors when I started there. One by one, our rivals went belly-up. Each time that happened, the CEO would throw a party (free beer!) and hold a mock funeral for the deceased firm. This always made me feel uncomfortable, for I wasn't convinced that the death of a competitor was necessarily a good thing. Sure, it could mean that our machines were better, and we would now grab more market share. But what if the death of those competitors really signaled a bad market for this type of machine? In a declining market, the weakest die first, of course. But in the end, the market becomes so unprofitable that <em>nobody</em> survives.</p><p>
As you may have noticed if you follow my postings,  I'm a bit of a pessimist. People tell me I'm "negative", and to "lighten up". For example, just after the conclusion of a project at this company, we were given the customary trophy T-shirts. The motto on these was, "Now anything is possible!". I remarked to some fellow employees that I found the implications of this motto disturbing: "anything" of necessity covers all the bad possibilities, as well as the good. They laughed at me, of course, over their free beer. The next day, the company announced the first of the layoffs that marked the beginning of the Death Spiral.</p><p>Getting back to the smartphone market, I'd rather have half a dozen strong competitors than one successful "killer". I think that's a win-win scenario for consumers, because each competitor will try to improve their product to gain on their rivals, and we will have a choice of a variety of good devices, instead of only one. As long as the market remains healthy, all the really good designs should reap a profit, so it's good for the manufacturers too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't agree with the zero sum mentality of the X-killer remarks .
Absolute dominance of a market is not necessarily a good thing , nor is a limited number of strong competitors necessarily a bad thing for them .
I used to work for a company who made a specialized line of " supercomputers " .
We had about half a dozen competitors when I started there .
One by one , our rivals went belly-up .
Each time that happened , the CEO would throw a party ( free beer !
) and hold a mock funeral for the deceased firm .
This always made me feel uncomfortable , for I was n't convinced that the death of a competitor was necessarily a good thing .
Sure , it could mean that our machines were better , and we would now grab more market share .
But what if the death of those competitors really signaled a bad market for this type of machine ?
In a declining market , the weakest die first , of course .
But in the end , the market becomes so unprofitable that nobody survives .
As you may have noticed if you follow my postings , I 'm a bit of a pessimist .
People tell me I 'm " negative " , and to " lighten up " .
For example , just after the conclusion of a project at this company , we were given the customary trophy T-shirts .
The motto on these was , " Now anything is possible ! " .
I remarked to some fellow employees that I found the implications of this motto disturbing : " anything " of necessity covers all the bad possibilities , as well as the good .
They laughed at me , of course , over their free beer .
The next day , the company announced the first of the layoffs that marked the beginning of the Death Spiral.Getting back to the smartphone market , I 'd rather have half a dozen strong competitors than one successful " killer " .
I think that 's a win-win scenario for consumers , because each competitor will try to improve their product to gain on their rivals , and we will have a choice of a variety of good devices , instead of only one .
As long as the market remains healthy , all the really good designs should reap a profit , so it 's good for the manufacturers too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't agree with the zero sum mentality of the X-killer remarks.
Absolute dominance of a market is not necessarily a good thing, nor is a limited number of strong competitors necessarily a bad thing for them.
I used to work for a company who made a specialized line of "supercomputers".
We had about half a dozen competitors when I started there.
One by one, our rivals went belly-up.
Each time that happened, the CEO would throw a party (free beer!
) and hold a mock funeral for the deceased firm.
This always made me feel uncomfortable, for I wasn't convinced that the death of a competitor was necessarily a good thing.
Sure, it could mean that our machines were better, and we would now grab more market share.
But what if the death of those competitors really signaled a bad market for this type of machine?
In a declining market, the weakest die first, of course.
But in the end, the market becomes so unprofitable that nobody survives.
As you may have noticed if you follow my postings,  I'm a bit of a pessimist.
People tell me I'm "negative", and to "lighten up".
For example, just after the conclusion of a project at this company, we were given the customary trophy T-shirts.
The motto on these was, "Now anything is possible!".
I remarked to some fellow employees that I found the implications of this motto disturbing: "anything" of necessity covers all the bad possibilities, as well as the good.
They laughed at me, of course, over their free beer.
The next day, the company announced the first of the layoffs that marked the beginning of the Death Spiral.Getting back to the smartphone market, I'd rather have half a dozen strong competitors than one successful "killer".
I think that's a win-win scenario for consumers, because each competitor will try to improve their product to gain on their rivals, and we will have a choice of a variety of good devices, instead of only one.
As long as the market remains healthy, all the really good designs should reap a profit, so it's good for the manufacturers too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758251</id>
	<title>Re:If they want the storm2 to be more successful..</title>
	<author>seanmeister</author>
	<datestamp>1255625280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can bash VZW's CDMA network all you want, but as long as they keep giving me 4 bars of EVDO goodness out here in the desert in rural southwestern New Mexico, they'll get nothing but love from me<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can bash VZW 's CDMA network all you want , but as long as they keep giving me 4 bars of EVDO goodness out here in the desert in rural southwestern New Mexico , they 'll get nothing but love from me : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can bash VZW's CDMA network all you want, but as long as they keep giving me 4 bars of EVDO goodness out here in the desert in rural southwestern New Mexico, they'll get nothing but love from me :)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29759427</id>
	<title>Re:The Disappointment of the Palm Pre</title>
	<author>LWATCDR</author>
	<datestamp>1255630440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yea my wife feels the same. The Pre is a great phone but it didn't bring world peace or humility to Steve or Steve!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yea my wife feels the same .
The Pre is a great phone but it did n't bring world peace or humility to Steve or Steve !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yea my wife feels the same.
The Pre is a great phone but it didn't bring world peace or humility to Steve or Steve!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758607</id>
	<title>Re:2 GB of Storage = Fail</title>
	<author>magpie</author>
	<datestamp>1255626840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>2 GB on board, you can how ever slap a 16 GB micro SD card into it and your sorted. Heck if that's not enough just get a few and switch them if you want.</htmltext>
<tokenext>2 GB on board , you can how ever slap a 16 GB micro SD card into it and your sorted .
Heck if that 's not enough just get a few and switch them if you want .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>2 GB on board, you can how ever slap a 16 GB micro SD card into it and your sorted.
Heck if that's not enough just get a few and switch them if you want.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758911</id>
	<title>On VZW do I want the Storm 2 or Android?</title>
	<author>edmicman</author>
	<datestamp>1255628160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Serious question - I'm a dumbphone user finally wanting to move to a smartphone, and in the next couple of months.  I have to (read: want to) stay on Verizon, and don't want a Windows Mobile phone.  I've decided on either the Storm2 or the upcoming Android phones, but am not sure which to go with.</p><p>Essentially what I want is a phone that I can email/message/facebook/twitter/do tasks/organize my life with.  I want to be able to browse the web, but I don't see myself spending lots of time doing that; usually I see it just looking up something quick.  I also don't see myself as a big apps/games user, but then again having never had that experience I don't know - maybe I would if the opportunity were there.</p><p>From what I can tell, my impressions are:<br>BB pros:<br>better build quality<br>good (best?) messaging/email ability (I don't really know, but figured that was their background so it must be very good?)<br>relatively proven track record for phones like this</p><p>BB cons:<br>lack of webkit browser (aren't they supposed to be working on this?  when?  would the S2 get it eventually?)<br>generally "closed" system<br>I have the perception there's less consumer app development for BB than with other platforms</p><p>Android pros:<br>webkit browser<br>open system<br>app development seems to have more potential, especially with consumer apps</p><p>Android cons:<br>how is the messaging?  Does it work well?<br>still young...although that doesn't bother me that much<br>from what I have seen of the VZW leaks, the form factors don't seem as nice as the BB.</p><p>Having experience with neither, I don't really know if I have a preference between hard or soft keyboards.</p><p>Thoughts or advice?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Serious question - I 'm a dumbphone user finally wanting to move to a smartphone , and in the next couple of months .
I have to ( read : want to ) stay on Verizon , and do n't want a Windows Mobile phone .
I 've decided on either the Storm2 or the upcoming Android phones , but am not sure which to go with.Essentially what I want is a phone that I can email/message/facebook/twitter/do tasks/organize my life with .
I want to be able to browse the web , but I do n't see myself spending lots of time doing that ; usually I see it just looking up something quick .
I also do n't see myself as a big apps/games user , but then again having never had that experience I do n't know - maybe I would if the opportunity were there.From what I can tell , my impressions are : BB pros : better build qualitygood ( best ?
) messaging/email ability ( I do n't really know , but figured that was their background so it must be very good ?
) relatively proven track record for phones like thisBB cons : lack of webkit browser ( are n't they supposed to be working on this ?
when ? would the S2 get it eventually ?
) generally " closed " systemI have the perception there 's less consumer app development for BB than with other platformsAndroid pros : webkit browseropen systemapp development seems to have more potential , especially with consumer appsAndroid cons : how is the messaging ?
Does it work well ? still young...although that does n't bother me that muchfrom what I have seen of the VZW leaks , the form factors do n't seem as nice as the BB.Having experience with neither , I do n't really know if I have a preference between hard or soft keyboards.Thoughts or advice ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Serious question - I'm a dumbphone user finally wanting to move to a smartphone, and in the next couple of months.
I have to (read: want to) stay on Verizon, and don't want a Windows Mobile phone.
I've decided on either the Storm2 or the upcoming Android phones, but am not sure which to go with.Essentially what I want is a phone that I can email/message/facebook/twitter/do tasks/organize my life with.
I want to be able to browse the web, but I don't see myself spending lots of time doing that; usually I see it just looking up something quick.
I also don't see myself as a big apps/games user, but then again having never had that experience I don't know - maybe I would if the opportunity were there.From what I can tell, my impressions are:BB pros:better build qualitygood (best?
) messaging/email ability (I don't really know, but figured that was their background so it must be very good?
)relatively proven track record for phones like thisBB cons:lack of webkit browser (aren't they supposed to be working on this?
when?  would the S2 get it eventually?
)generally "closed" systemI have the perception there's less consumer app development for BB than with other platformsAndroid pros:webkit browseropen systemapp development seems to have more potential, especially with consumer appsAndroid cons:how is the messaging?
Does it work well?still young...although that doesn't bother me that muchfrom what I have seen of the VZW leaks, the form factors don't seem as nice as the BB.Having experience with neither, I don't really know if I have a preference between hard or soft keyboards.Thoughts or advice?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29757981</id>
	<title>As a former Storm owner</title>
	<author>m0s3m8n</author>
	<datestamp>1255624200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>As a former Storm owner I think RIM has gone a long way to fixing several of the idiotic design choices (compromises) in the Storm Mk1.  I never had a problem with the click screen after applying some recommended fixes.  I hope the build quality had been improved as I went through 4 phones before giving up.

Probably the biggest issue I had with the phone (as a smartphone) was the terrible memory management.  Blackberry, while they advertize several gigs of internal storage, use a small dedicated memory pool for the OS, program storage, and data (email) storage.  On the original that was 128 MB.  Just turning the phone on dropped that to 50 MB usable and after loading several apps, it would drop to 10-20.  At that level the phone became very sluggish.  And the OS have a propensity to leak memory so that as the day went on your usable memory level would continue to fall to the point where you had to pull the battery to reset the phone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As a former Storm owner I think RIM has gone a long way to fixing several of the idiotic design choices ( compromises ) in the Storm Mk1 .
I never had a problem with the click screen after applying some recommended fixes .
I hope the build quality had been improved as I went through 4 phones before giving up .
Probably the biggest issue I had with the phone ( as a smartphone ) was the terrible memory management .
Blackberry , while they advertize several gigs of internal storage , use a small dedicated memory pool for the OS , program storage , and data ( email ) storage .
On the original that was 128 MB .
Just turning the phone on dropped that to 50 MB usable and after loading several apps , it would drop to 10-20 .
At that level the phone became very sluggish .
And the OS have a propensity to leak memory so that as the day went on your usable memory level would continue to fall to the point where you had to pull the battery to reset the phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a former Storm owner I think RIM has gone a long way to fixing several of the idiotic design choices (compromises) in the Storm Mk1.
I never had a problem with the click screen after applying some recommended fixes.
I hope the build quality had been improved as I went through 4 phones before giving up.
Probably the biggest issue I had with the phone (as a smartphone) was the terrible memory management.
Blackberry, while they advertize several gigs of internal storage, use a small dedicated memory pool for the OS, program storage, and data (email) storage.
On the original that was 128 MB.
Just turning the phone on dropped that to 50 MB usable and after loading several apps, it would drop to 10-20.
At that level the phone became very sluggish.
And the OS have a propensity to leak memory so that as the day went on your usable memory level would continue to fall to the point where you had to pull the battery to reset the phone.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29757645</id>
	<title>Re:LOL</title>
	<author>thisnamestoolong</author>
	<datestamp>1255622760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think it is understood in the reading that the iPhone is the smartphone to beat, it was very clear to me that they were referring to the promises made by Palm to unseat the iPhone from its iThrone around its release, and musing as to whether or not the Storm 2 has what it takes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it is understood in the reading that the iPhone is the smartphone to beat , it was very clear to me that they were referring to the promises made by Palm to unseat the iPhone from its iThrone around its release , and musing as to whether or not the Storm 2 has what it takes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it is understood in the reading that the iPhone is the smartphone to beat, it was very clear to me that they were referring to the promises made by Palm to unseat the iPhone from its iThrone around its release, and musing as to whether or not the Storm 2 has what it takes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29761303</id>
	<title>Re:What the hell mods?</title>
	<author>multisync</author>
	<datestamp>1255639200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Not a single post in this thread deserves the Troll or Redundant mods they were given.</p></div></blockquote><p>The moderation system on Slashdot was seriously broken when they abandoned the old meta-moderation system in favour of the current "is this a good post?" system. This has enabled people to abuse their moderation privileges by hitting posts they don't like with Troll and Redundant mods with impunity. At least with the old system, abuse like this would become apparent after a few meta-mods disagreed with the original moderation. I don't know if any effort is currently being made to identify people who abuse the system, but given frequency of the kind of thing you identified in this thread, it doesn't look like it.</p><p>I don't know if anything can really be done in the long run. People with time on their hands will find a way to abuse the system, presumably by creating numerous accounts to increase the frequency they have access to mod points. My response has been to browse at -1 and stop participating in the moderation system (mostly because I don't have the time to do a proper job of it) and to try to not get too worked up about it, but it's frustrating.</p><p>Really, at this point I think Slashdot should just abandon the moderation system altogether, but I suppose it's good for the users to have the choice to use it if they like.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not a single post in this thread deserves the Troll or Redundant mods they were given.The moderation system on Slashdot was seriously broken when they abandoned the old meta-moderation system in favour of the current " is this a good post ?
" system .
This has enabled people to abuse their moderation privileges by hitting posts they do n't like with Troll and Redundant mods with impunity .
At least with the old system , abuse like this would become apparent after a few meta-mods disagreed with the original moderation .
I do n't know if any effort is currently being made to identify people who abuse the system , but given frequency of the kind of thing you identified in this thread , it does n't look like it.I do n't know if anything can really be done in the long run .
People with time on their hands will find a way to abuse the system , presumably by creating numerous accounts to increase the frequency they have access to mod points .
My response has been to browse at -1 and stop participating in the moderation system ( mostly because I do n't have the time to do a proper job of it ) and to try to not get too worked up about it , but it 's frustrating.Really , at this point I think Slashdot should just abandon the moderation system altogether , but I suppose it 's good for the users to have the choice to use it if they like .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not a single post in this thread deserves the Troll or Redundant mods they were given.The moderation system on Slashdot was seriously broken when they abandoned the old meta-moderation system in favour of the current "is this a good post?
" system.
This has enabled people to abuse their moderation privileges by hitting posts they don't like with Troll and Redundant mods with impunity.
At least with the old system, abuse like this would become apparent after a few meta-mods disagreed with the original moderation.
I don't know if any effort is currently being made to identify people who abuse the system, but given frequency of the kind of thing you identified in this thread, it doesn't look like it.I don't know if anything can really be done in the long run.
People with time on their hands will find a way to abuse the system, presumably by creating numerous accounts to increase the frequency they have access to mod points.
My response has been to browse at -1 and stop participating in the moderation system (mostly because I don't have the time to do a proper job of it) and to try to not get too worked up about it, but it's frustrating.Really, at this point I think Slashdot should just abandon the moderation system altogether, but I suppose it's good for the users to have the choice to use it if they like.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758307</id>
	<title>Re:"Developers, Developers, Developers..."</title>
	<author>CharlyFoxtrot</author>
	<datestamp>1255625580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>To quote MonkeyBoy, err, Steve Ballmer...</p><p>This is why the iPhone has become so entrenched, it has the developers.  Its not just a matter of building hardware that matches Apple, you now have to build an ecology to match Apple.</p></div><p>Also why it was absolutely brilliant to not allow flash, java, etc programming on the iPhone. All those developers now have skills which translate more or less easily to mac development.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>To quote MonkeyBoy , err , Steve Ballmer...This is why the iPhone has become so entrenched , it has the developers .
Its not just a matter of building hardware that matches Apple , you now have to build an ecology to match Apple.Also why it was absolutely brilliant to not allow flash , java , etc programming on the iPhone .
All those developers now have skills which translate more or less easily to mac development .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To quote MonkeyBoy, err, Steve Ballmer...This is why the iPhone has become so entrenched, it has the developers.
Its not just a matter of building hardware that matches Apple, you now have to build an ecology to match Apple.Also why it was absolutely brilliant to not allow flash, java, etc programming on the iPhone.
All those developers now have skills which translate more or less easily to mac development.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29766073</id>
	<title>Re:The important question...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255632900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Does it support IMAP/POP/SMTP natively or are you still stuck with the pile-of-crap BIS/BES services for email (or using Web interfaces or third party java apps)?</i></p><p>I disagree with your assessment that BES is crap, but you are correct, blackberries work only with BIS/BES service. For those who don't know, BIS is a hosted IMAP/POP/SMTP service run by RIM. BES (blackberry enterprise server) is a server that you install and connect to your email server.</p><p>The blackberry push email platform is designed to work with a hosted service, either you run it in-house with a BES, or RIM runs it for you with BIS.</p><p>That's the way it is. Data push cannot occur without support on the server end. Regular cellphone data connections won't do push data - they have to continuously poll for new messages, running up the data bill even if no messages are sent. While some people have unlimited data plans, many of us don't, so we like push data.</p><p><i>I won't even consider looking at this model for the rest of our small (16) corporate team unless we can use our own (postfix-based) mail servers. The fact that we have to hand over our email account usernames and passwords AND pay just so the Vodafone BIS server can pick up mail and kindly pass it on to the Blackberries (and vice versa) is simply crap, a security risk and a PITA if a user changes their password via our mail server's Web interface.</i></p><p>Well, you need to get a BES (blackberry enterprise server) to get full use of the blackberry platform. With a BES, you keep all your passwords and all your encryption keys. No one else has the keys &amp; passwords, not RIM, not the cellphone carrier.</p><p>BES works with Lotus Notes, Novell Groupwise, and Microsoft Exchange. That's the way it is. If that doesn't fit into your company for whatever reason, then you get the blackberry BIS experience that you describe.</p><p>Given your small size, it may be hard to justify the cost of a BES &amp; Notes/Groupwise/Exchange. There is BES-lite product called <a href="http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/" title="blackberry.com" rel="nofollow">BPS</a> [blackberry.com] which is much cheaper &amp; simpler than a full BES, but still provides most features.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does it support IMAP/POP/SMTP natively or are you still stuck with the pile-of-crap BIS/BES services for email ( or using Web interfaces or third party java apps ) ? I disagree with your assessment that BES is crap , but you are correct , blackberries work only with BIS/BES service .
For those who do n't know , BIS is a hosted IMAP/POP/SMTP service run by RIM .
BES ( blackberry enterprise server ) is a server that you install and connect to your email server.The blackberry push email platform is designed to work with a hosted service , either you run it in-house with a BES , or RIM runs it for you with BIS.That 's the way it is .
Data push can not occur without support on the server end .
Regular cellphone data connections wo n't do push data - they have to continuously poll for new messages , running up the data bill even if no messages are sent .
While some people have unlimited data plans , many of us do n't , so we like push data.I wo n't even consider looking at this model for the rest of our small ( 16 ) corporate team unless we can use our own ( postfix-based ) mail servers .
The fact that we have to hand over our email account usernames and passwords AND pay just so the Vodafone BIS server can pick up mail and kindly pass it on to the Blackberries ( and vice versa ) is simply crap , a security risk and a PITA if a user changes their password via our mail server 's Web interface.Well , you need to get a BES ( blackberry enterprise server ) to get full use of the blackberry platform .
With a BES , you keep all your passwords and all your encryption keys .
No one else has the keys &amp; passwords , not RIM , not the cellphone carrier.BES works with Lotus Notes , Novell Groupwise , and Microsoft Exchange .
That 's the way it is .
If that does n't fit into your company for whatever reason , then you get the blackberry BIS experience that you describe.Given your small size , it may be hard to justify the cost of a BES &amp; Notes/Groupwise/Exchange .
There is BES-lite product called BPS [ blackberry.com ] which is much cheaper &amp; simpler than a full BES , but still provides most features .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does it support IMAP/POP/SMTP natively or are you still stuck with the pile-of-crap BIS/BES services for email (or using Web interfaces or third party java apps)?I disagree with your assessment that BES is crap, but you are correct, blackberries work only with BIS/BES service.
For those who don't know, BIS is a hosted IMAP/POP/SMTP service run by RIM.
BES (blackberry enterprise server) is a server that you install and connect to your email server.The blackberry push email platform is designed to work with a hosted service, either you run it in-house with a BES, or RIM runs it for you with BIS.That's the way it is.
Data push cannot occur without support on the server end.
Regular cellphone data connections won't do push data - they have to continuously poll for new messages, running up the data bill even if no messages are sent.
While some people have unlimited data plans, many of us don't, so we like push data.I won't even consider looking at this model for the rest of our small (16) corporate team unless we can use our own (postfix-based) mail servers.
The fact that we have to hand over our email account usernames and passwords AND pay just so the Vodafone BIS server can pick up mail and kindly pass it on to the Blackberries (and vice versa) is simply crap, a security risk and a PITA if a user changes their password via our mail server's Web interface.Well, you need to get a BES (blackberry enterprise server) to get full use of the blackberry platform.
With a BES, you keep all your passwords and all your encryption keys.
No one else has the keys &amp; passwords, not RIM, not the cellphone carrier.BES works with Lotus Notes, Novell Groupwise, and Microsoft Exchange.
That's the way it is.
If that doesn't fit into your company for whatever reason, then you get the blackberry BIS experience that you describe.Given your small size, it may be hard to justify the cost of a BES &amp; Notes/Groupwise/Exchange.
There is BES-lite product called BPS [blackberry.com] which is much cheaper &amp; simpler than a full BES, but still provides most features.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29757673</id>
	<title>"Developers, Developers, Developers..."</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255622940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To quote MonkeyBoy, err, Steve Ballmer...</p><p>This is why the iPhone has become so entrenched, it has the developers.  Its not just a matter of building hardware that matches Apple, you now have to build an ecology to match Apple.</p><p>Which is <i> <b>very hard:</b> </i>.  Look at the MP3 player market.  People have made plenty of players better than the iPod-of-the-time, but Apple has the ecology annd is now hard to displace.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>To quote MonkeyBoy , err , Steve Ballmer...This is why the iPhone has become so entrenched , it has the developers .
Its not just a matter of building hardware that matches Apple , you now have to build an ecology to match Apple.Which is very hard : .
Look at the MP3 player market .
People have made plenty of players better than the iPod-of-the-time , but Apple has the ecology annd is now hard to displace .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To quote MonkeyBoy, err, Steve Ballmer...This is why the iPhone has become so entrenched, it has the developers.
Its not just a matter of building hardware that matches Apple, you now have to build an ecology to match Apple.Which is  very hard: .
Look at the MP3 player market.
People have made plenty of players better than the iPod-of-the-time, but Apple has the ecology annd is now hard to displace.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29757905</id>
	<title>The Disappointment of the Palm Pre</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255623840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... I know exactly what you're talking about! After buying my Pre, I found that:</p><p>
&nbsp; - I didn't immediately lose weight<br>
&nbsp; - I still had to wear glasses<br>
&nbsp; - the damage to my hearing (after 20 years of listening to good music) wasn't repaired<br>
&nbsp; - my credit limit wasn't raised, and my day-to-day living expenses weren't reduced</p><p>Sure, overall it's a great phone, as far as portable phones that store important information, take pictures, play music and access the internet go, but those four points stick in my craw. Fail!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... I know exactly what you 're talking about !
After buying my Pre , I found that :   - I did n't immediately lose weight   - I still had to wear glasses   - the damage to my hearing ( after 20 years of listening to good music ) was n't repaired   - my credit limit was n't raised , and my day-to-day living expenses were n't reducedSure , overall it 's a great phone , as far as portable phones that store important information , take pictures , play music and access the internet go , but those four points stick in my craw .
Fail !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... I know exactly what you're talking about!
After buying my Pre, I found that:
  - I didn't immediately lose weight
  - I still had to wear glasses
  - the damage to my hearing (after 20 years of listening to good music) wasn't repaired
  - my credit limit wasn't raised, and my day-to-day living expenses weren't reducedSure, overall it's a great phone, as far as portable phones that store important information, take pictures, play music and access the internet go, but those four points stick in my craw.
Fail!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29764445</id>
	<title>Re:LOL</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255612140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thank god I am using a Samsung Omnia. Now...through Opera Mobile. And poo to those who say that Verizon neuters their phones---especially with the new firmware upgrade from Samsung...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thank god I am using a Samsung Omnia .
Now...through Opera Mobile .
And poo to those who say that Verizon neuters their phones---especially with the new firmware upgrade from Samsung.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thank god I am using a Samsung Omnia.
Now...through Opera Mobile.
And poo to those who say that Verizon neuters their phones---especially with the new firmware upgrade from Samsung...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29764927</id>
	<title>Re:Palm Pre</title>
	<author>LurkerXXX</author>
	<datestamp>1255616700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What is your disappointment?</p><p>With the data plan, you get free roaming (which uses Verizon's network).</p><p>You get free cell to cell calls on any network.</p><p>You can buy a base plan with unlimited data/MMS/text messaging and 450 min of talk/month to land lines and unlimited to cells for $69.99</p><p>Their network isn't over saturated like AT&amp;T's.</p><p>You get free turn-by-turn navigation (most other carriers charge extra for that).</p><p>I love my Pre and have been happy with Sprint so far.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What is your disappointment ? With the data plan , you get free roaming ( which uses Verizon 's network ) .You get free cell to cell calls on any network.You can buy a base plan with unlimited data/MMS/text messaging and 450 min of talk/month to land lines and unlimited to cells for $ 69.99Their network is n't over saturated like AT&amp;T 's.You get free turn-by-turn navigation ( most other carriers charge extra for that ) .I love my Pre and have been happy with Sprint so far .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is your disappointment?With the data plan, you get free roaming (which uses Verizon's network).You get free cell to cell calls on any network.You can buy a base plan with unlimited data/MMS/text messaging and 450 min of talk/month to land lines and unlimited to cells for $69.99Their network isn't over saturated like AT&amp;T's.You get free turn-by-turn navigation (most other carriers charge extra for that).I love my Pre and have been happy with Sprint so far.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758625</id>
	<title>Re:If they want the storm2 to be more successful..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255626900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>If an employee drops their phone and needs to replace it ASAP, someone in the company can pull the SIM card, put it into a new phone, and the employee is back to work with minimal downtime - unless you're on a non-GSM carrier in which case you need to have the magic store deactivate the old phone, sell you a new phone, activate it, etc...</p></div></blockquote><p>Or...if you're seriously that reliant on RIM phones, you could keep several extra on hand, and you can activate them yourself using Verizon's support website.</p><p>My Razr v3M broke last year. I had still kept my old phone from before my upgrade. I just went to the support website and deactivated my phone myself and activated my old one. Easy peasy.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If an employee drops their phone and needs to replace it ASAP , someone in the company can pull the SIM card , put it into a new phone , and the employee is back to work with minimal downtime - unless you 're on a non-GSM carrier in which case you need to have the magic store deactivate the old phone , sell you a new phone , activate it , etc...Or...if you 're seriously that reliant on RIM phones , you could keep several extra on hand , and you can activate them yourself using Verizon 's support website.My Razr v3M broke last year .
I had still kept my old phone from before my upgrade .
I just went to the support website and deactivated my phone myself and activated my old one .
Easy peasy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If an employee drops their phone and needs to replace it ASAP, someone in the company can pull the SIM card, put it into a new phone, and the employee is back to work with minimal downtime - unless you're on a non-GSM carrier in which case you need to have the magic store deactivate the old phone, sell you a new phone, activate it, etc...Or...if you're seriously that reliant on RIM phones, you could keep several extra on hand, and you can activate them yourself using Verizon's support website.My Razr v3M broke last year.
I had still kept my old phone from before my upgrade.
I just went to the support website and deactivated my phone myself and activated my old one.
Easy peasy.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29765225</id>
	<title>Re:"Developers, Developers, Developers..."</title>
	<author>indiechild</author>
	<datestamp>1255620060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You probably hang out with a different (more tech-oriented?) crowd. Most of my friends now have iPods/iPhones as their primary portable music players, and more and more are becoming Mac converts. The Mac users tend to be programmers, web developers or photographers, but I was quite surprised to learn that a few of my finance friends were Mac users as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You probably hang out with a different ( more tech-oriented ?
) crowd .
Most of my friends now have iPods/iPhones as their primary portable music players , and more and more are becoming Mac converts .
The Mac users tend to be programmers , web developers or photographers , but I was quite surprised to learn that a few of my finance friends were Mac users as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You probably hang out with a different (more tech-oriented?
) crowd.
Most of my friends now have iPods/iPhones as their primary portable music players, and more and more are becoming Mac converts.
The Mac users tend to be programmers, web developers or photographers, but I was quite surprised to learn that a few of my finance friends were Mac users as well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29757709</id>
	<title>No Way...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255623060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm never buying another Blackberry.</p><p>Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm never buying another Blackberry.Fool me once , shame on you .
Fool me - you ca n't get fooled again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm never buying another Blackberry.Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me - you can't get fooled again.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29757863</id>
	<title>Palm Pre</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255623660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>To me, the only disappointment in the Palm Pre is SPRINT!</htmltext>
<tokenext>To me , the only disappointment in the Palm Pre is SPRINT !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To me, the only disappointment in the Palm Pre is SPRINT!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29760069</id>
	<title>Re:"Developers, Developers, Developers..."</title>
	<author>7-Vodka</author>
	<datestamp>1255633200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh yeah, Apple is so entrenched in the smartphone market they're almost a monopoly!!11!!
<p>
<a href="http://www.mactropolis.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/market-share.jpg" title="mactropolis.com">data</a> [mactropolis.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh yeah , Apple is so entrenched in the smartphone market they 're almost a monopoly ! ! 11 ! !
data [ mactropolis.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh yeah, Apple is so entrenched in the smartphone market they're almost a monopoly!!11!!
data [mactropolis.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29764049</id>
	<title>Re:On VZW do I want the Storm 2 or Android?</title>
	<author>amirulbahr</author>
	<datestamp>1255609080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can download the <a href="http://developer.android.com/index.html" title="android.com">Android SDK</a> [android.com] run the emulator and see it in action.  Of course the emulator won't have apps like Market and you won't be able to make calls.</p><p>As for messaging, it uses a very intuitive conversation oriented layout.  My phone has a physical keyboard, but even so I find myself using the on-screen keyboard more and more these days.</p><p>Of course, the big plus on the Android side is the growing developer community.  It is extremely developer friendly as a platform and as a market-place. It is also nice to know that I can buy a phone from another manufacturer and keep the same software and not need to worry about synchronising contacts or calendar.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can download the Android SDK [ android.com ] run the emulator and see it in action .
Of course the emulator wo n't have apps like Market and you wo n't be able to make calls.As for messaging , it uses a very intuitive conversation oriented layout .
My phone has a physical keyboard , but even so I find myself using the on-screen keyboard more and more these days.Of course , the big plus on the Android side is the growing developer community .
It is extremely developer friendly as a platform and as a market-place .
It is also nice to know that I can buy a phone from another manufacturer and keep the same software and not need to worry about synchronising contacts or calendar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can download the Android SDK [android.com] run the emulator and see it in action.
Of course the emulator won't have apps like Market and you won't be able to make calls.As for messaging, it uses a very intuitive conversation oriented layout.
My phone has a physical keyboard, but even so I find myself using the on-screen keyboard more and more these days.Of course, the big plus on the Android side is the growing developer community.
It is extremely developer friendly as a platform and as a market-place.
It is also nice to know that I can buy a phone from another manufacturer and keep the same software and not need to worry about synchronising contacts or calendar.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29757609</id>
	<title>LOL</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255622520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>After the disappointment of the Palm Pre, could this be the smartphone to beat?"</i> <br> <br>

Um, yeah, let's not mention the elephant in the room, shall we?</htmltext>
<tokenext>After the disappointment of the Palm Pre , could this be the smartphone to beat ?
" Um , yeah , let 's not mention the elephant in the room , shall we ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After the disappointment of the Palm Pre, could this be the smartphone to beat?
"  

Um, yeah, let's not mention the elephant in the room, shall we?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758561</id>
	<title>Re:If they want the storm2 to be more successful..</title>
	<author>CAIMLAS</author>
	<datestamp>1255626660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apparently you're not from the midwest. The Blackberry smartphones have been incredibly popular out here in Verizonland - if, for no other reason, than there are no other smartphones worth half a damn available.</p><p>With Verizon bandwidth fees and quality of service/bandwidth throughput, you're not going to be able to use an iPhone or WinMo phone anyway...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently you 're not from the midwest .
The Blackberry smartphones have been incredibly popular out here in Verizonland - if , for no other reason , than there are no other smartphones worth half a damn available.With Verizon bandwidth fees and quality of service/bandwidth throughput , you 're not going to be able to use an iPhone or WinMo phone anyway.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently you're not from the midwest.
The Blackberry smartphones have been incredibly popular out here in Verizonland - if, for no other reason, than there are no other smartphones worth half a damn available.With Verizon bandwidth fees and quality of service/bandwidth throughput, you're not going to be able to use an iPhone or WinMo phone anyway...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29764939</id>
	<title>Re:"Developers, Developers, Developers..."</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255616820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>[Insert "In Soviet Russia" joke here]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>[ Insert " In Soviet Russia " joke here ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[Insert "In Soviet Russia" joke here]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29761035</id>
	<title>Re:The Disappointment of the Palm Pre</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255637700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I love my pre.  I've Hacked it to allow wifi tethering, and now I'm buying a Touch.  All the functionality of an Iphone, value of Sprint's plan, and none of the horrible AT&amp;T contract and awful service.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I love my pre .
I 've Hacked it to allow wifi tethering , and now I 'm buying a Touch .
All the functionality of an Iphone , value of Sprint 's plan , and none of the horrible AT&amp;T contract and awful service .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love my pre.
I've Hacked it to allow wifi tethering, and now I'm buying a Touch.
All the functionality of an Iphone, value of Sprint's plan, and none of the horrible AT&amp;T contract and awful service.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758405</id>
	<title>Re:Blackberry would be more compelling</title>
	<author>tweek</author>
	<datestamp>1255625880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is the biggest thing I've come to hate about my Storm (and the Storm 2). ANY push functionality has to go via RIM. The wifi is next to pointless on the Storm 2 the more that I look at it because I can't DO anything with it other than browse the web faster than over 3G. Oh Podtrapper will get my podcasts faster too. Whoop dee!</p><p>I was strongly considering upgrade my Storm to the Storm 2 but I think I may hold off until Verizon gets the Wifi android phone next year. The whole BIS/BES + your PIN/physical phone hardware is who you are (versus me being who I am) is dated.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the biggest thing I 've come to hate about my Storm ( and the Storm 2 ) .
ANY push functionality has to go via RIM .
The wifi is next to pointless on the Storm 2 the more that I look at it because I ca n't DO anything with it other than browse the web faster than over 3G .
Oh Podtrapper will get my podcasts faster too .
Whoop dee ! I was strongly considering upgrade my Storm to the Storm 2 but I think I may hold off until Verizon gets the Wifi android phone next year .
The whole BIS/BES + your PIN/physical phone hardware is who you are ( versus me being who I am ) is dated .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the biggest thing I've come to hate about my Storm (and the Storm 2).
ANY push functionality has to go via RIM.
The wifi is next to pointless on the Storm 2 the more that I look at it because I can't DO anything with it other than browse the web faster than over 3G.
Oh Podtrapper will get my podcasts faster too.
Whoop dee!I was strongly considering upgrade my Storm to the Storm 2 but I think I may hold off until Verizon gets the Wifi android phone next year.
The whole BIS/BES + your PIN/physical phone hardware is who you are (versus me being who I am) is dated.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29759271</id>
	<title>Re:You will have to pry my clicking screen</title>
	<author>Ksevio</author>
	<datestamp>1255629840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ah so you're the one!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah so you 're the one !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah so you're the one!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29757727</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29763259</id>
	<title>Re:If they want the storm2 to be more successful..</title>
	<author>Registered Coward v2</author>
	<datestamp>1255604580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>...

If an employee drops their phone and needs to replace it ASAP, someone in the company can pull the SIM card, put it into a new phone, and the employee is back to work with minimal downtime - unless you're on a non-GSM carrier in which case you need to have the magic store deactivate the old phone, sell you a new phone, activate it, etc...</p></div><p>When I was on verizon, all it took to swap phones was to enter the new ID into my account online.  I could switch phones anytime with no problems.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>.. . If an employee drops their phone and needs to replace it ASAP , someone in the company can pull the SIM card , put it into a new phone , and the employee is back to work with minimal downtime - unless you 're on a non-GSM carrier in which case you need to have the magic store deactivate the old phone , sell you a new phone , activate it , etc...When I was on verizon , all it took to swap phones was to enter the new ID into my account online .
I could switch phones anytime with no problems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...

If an employee drops their phone and needs to replace it ASAP, someone in the company can pull the SIM card, put it into a new phone, and the employee is back to work with minimal downtime - unless you're on a non-GSM carrier in which case you need to have the magic store deactivate the old phone, sell you a new phone, activate it, etc...When I was on verizon, all it took to swap phones was to enter the new ID into my account online.
I could switch phones anytime with no problems.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758949</id>
	<title>Re:If they want the storm2 to be more successful..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255628400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If an employee drops their phone and needs to replace it ASAP, someone in the company can pull the SIM card, put it into a new phone, and the employee is back to work with minimal downtime - unless you're on a non-GSM carrier in which case you need to have the magic store deactivate the old phone, sell you a new phone, activate it, etc...</p></div><p>I don't know about Verizon, but you don't have to go to a Sprint store to activate or swap phones.  You can activate phones online.  Although it might involve reprogramming the phone, they give you instructions on how to do so, and reprogramming can be done in under a minute.  Last time I activated a Sprint phone, it picked up the programming automatically, so I didn't even have to do that.  Contacts wouldn't transfer over immediately, but if your phone supports wireless synchronization with an exchange server or something, then a simple update there fixes that problem.</p><p>So yes, you can swap CDMA phones rather quickly, even without having to open the battery door.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If an employee drops their phone and needs to replace it ASAP , someone in the company can pull the SIM card , put it into a new phone , and the employee is back to work with minimal downtime - unless you 're on a non-GSM carrier in which case you need to have the magic store deactivate the old phone , sell you a new phone , activate it , etc...I do n't know about Verizon , but you do n't have to go to a Sprint store to activate or swap phones .
You can activate phones online .
Although it might involve reprogramming the phone , they give you instructions on how to do so , and reprogramming can be done in under a minute .
Last time I activated a Sprint phone , it picked up the programming automatically , so I did n't even have to do that .
Contacts would n't transfer over immediately , but if your phone supports wireless synchronization with an exchange server or something , then a simple update there fixes that problem.So yes , you can swap CDMA phones rather quickly , even without having to open the battery door .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If an employee drops their phone and needs to replace it ASAP, someone in the company can pull the SIM card, put it into a new phone, and the employee is back to work with minimal downtime - unless you're on a non-GSM carrier in which case you need to have the magic store deactivate the old phone, sell you a new phone, activate it, etc...I don't know about Verizon, but you don't have to go to a Sprint store to activate or swap phones.
You can activate phones online.
Although it might involve reprogramming the phone, they give you instructions on how to do so, and reprogramming can be done in under a minute.
Last time I activated a Sprint phone, it picked up the programming automatically, so I didn't even have to do that.
Contacts wouldn't transfer over immediately, but if your phone supports wireless synchronization with an exchange server or something, then a simple update there fixes that problem.So yes, you can swap CDMA phones rather quickly, even without having to open the battery door.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29757727</id>
	<title>You will have to pry my clicking screen</title>
	<author>jeffmeden</author>
	<datestamp>1255623180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From my cold dead hands!  I love my Storm 1.</p><p>Oh, and might I add: You damn, dirty apes!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From my cold dead hands !
I love my Storm 1.Oh , and might I add : You damn , dirty apes !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From my cold dead hands!
I love my Storm 1.Oh, and might I add: You damn, dirty apes!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29762485</id>
	<title>Re:On VZW do I want the Storm 2 or Android?</title>
	<author>jomcty</author>
	<datestamp>1255601280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would look at a <a href="http://na.blackberry.com/eng/devices/blackberrytour/" title="blackberry.com" rel="nofollow">BlackBerry Tour</a> [blackberry.com] on VZW.

</p><p>I moved to T-Mobile from VZW to get a <a href="http://na.blackberry.com/eng/devices/blackberrycurve8900/" title="blackberry.com" rel="nofollow">BlackBerry 8900</a> [blackberry.com] and I'm very pleased with the phone (my first smartphone) and the lower prices on T-Mobile. I love the fact that I don't have to worry about charging mid-day and can go two days easy w/o charging. The phone have good Google support with BB-specific programs for syncing, Gmail, Search, GTalk, GVoice, etc.
</p><p>The BB may not be shiny and flashy like a iphone but it is a solid communications device with great third-party support.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would look at a BlackBerry Tour [ blackberry.com ] on VZW .
I moved to T-Mobile from VZW to get a BlackBerry 8900 [ blackberry.com ] and I 'm very pleased with the phone ( my first smartphone ) and the lower prices on T-Mobile .
I love the fact that I do n't have to worry about charging mid-day and can go two days easy w/o charging .
The phone have good Google support with BB-specific programs for syncing , Gmail , Search , GTalk , GVoice , etc .
The BB may not be shiny and flashy like a iphone but it is a solid communications device with great third-party support .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would look at a BlackBerry Tour [blackberry.com] on VZW.
I moved to T-Mobile from VZW to get a BlackBerry 8900 [blackberry.com] and I'm very pleased with the phone (my first smartphone) and the lower prices on T-Mobile.
I love the fact that I don't have to worry about charging mid-day and can go two days easy w/o charging.
The phone have good Google support with BB-specific programs for syncing, Gmail, Search, GTalk, GVoice, etc.
The BB may not be shiny and flashy like a iphone but it is a solid communications device with great third-party support.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29768501</id>
	<title>Re:On VZW do I want the Storm 2 or Android?</title>
	<author>xannik</author>
	<datestamp>1255707360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Get the motorola droid (aka sholes). They are going to release it very soon. An official announcement is expected sometime in October. All of the major carriers are going to have android phones and many major manufacturers are betting on the platform, so they can compete with the Iphone. Motorola has 10 android phones planned to launch sometime in 2010. Samsung is releasing the Moment on Sprint's network. The HTC Hero is already being sold on Sprint's network. T-Mobile is all about android with the MyTouch and the Motorola Cliq.
<br> <br>
I'm telling you the future is Android. The platform is easier to develop for than the Iphone and the Android Market already has a ton of apps. Both paid and free. Not as many as the Iphone, but eventually the number will get there. Besides, with over 10,000 a lot of the bases have already been covered.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)
<br> <br>
Now the Motorola Droid has some phenomenal specs.
- 3.7 screen with 854&#215;480 (16:9 widescreen) capacitive touchscreen
- 600 MHz ARM Cortex A8 Processor
- Wi-Fi, EV-DO
- 5 megapixel camera with autofocus and LED flash and video recording
- QWERTY Slider, 13.7mm thick
- 3.5mm headphone jack
- 16GB onboard storage with microSD expansion slot
- Android 2.0 'Eclair'
- Builtin accelerometer
<br> <br>
In addition to the specs, the Droid will come (like many android phones) with all the google applications including Google Voice. If you have a google voice account then you can end up saving a lot of minutes by using it to connect your call instead of going over your minute plan. Blackberries are going to become antiquated very quickly. Android already has connectivity to office applications for checking corporate email. As the platform evolves and the phones saturate the market, I think there will be little else that can really compete with it.
<br> <br>
Just my two cents.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Get the motorola droid ( aka sholes ) .
They are going to release it very soon .
An official announcement is expected sometime in October .
All of the major carriers are going to have android phones and many major manufacturers are betting on the platform , so they can compete with the Iphone .
Motorola has 10 android phones planned to launch sometime in 2010 .
Samsung is releasing the Moment on Sprint 's network .
The HTC Hero is already being sold on Sprint 's network .
T-Mobile is all about android with the MyTouch and the Motorola Cliq .
I 'm telling you the future is Android .
The platform is easier to develop for than the Iphone and the Android Market already has a ton of apps .
Both paid and free .
Not as many as the Iphone , but eventually the number will get there .
Besides , with over 10,000 a lot of the bases have already been covered .
: - ) Now the Motorola Droid has some phenomenal specs .
- 3.7 screen with 854   480 ( 16 : 9 widescreen ) capacitive touchscreen - 600 MHz ARM Cortex A8 Processor - Wi-Fi , EV-DO - 5 megapixel camera with autofocus and LED flash and video recording - QWERTY Slider , 13.7mm thick - 3.5mm headphone jack - 16GB onboard storage with microSD expansion slot - Android 2.0 'Eclair ' - Builtin accelerometer In addition to the specs , the Droid will come ( like many android phones ) with all the google applications including Google Voice .
If you have a google voice account then you can end up saving a lot of minutes by using it to connect your call instead of going over your minute plan .
Blackberries are going to become antiquated very quickly .
Android already has connectivity to office applications for checking corporate email .
As the platform evolves and the phones saturate the market , I think there will be little else that can really compete with it .
Just my two cents .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get the motorola droid (aka sholes).
They are going to release it very soon.
An official announcement is expected sometime in October.
All of the major carriers are going to have android phones and many major manufacturers are betting on the platform, so they can compete with the Iphone.
Motorola has 10 android phones planned to launch sometime in 2010.
Samsung is releasing the Moment on Sprint's network.
The HTC Hero is already being sold on Sprint's network.
T-Mobile is all about android with the MyTouch and the Motorola Cliq.
I'm telling you the future is Android.
The platform is easier to develop for than the Iphone and the Android Market already has a ton of apps.
Both paid and free.
Not as many as the Iphone, but eventually the number will get there.
Besides, with over 10,000 a lot of the bases have already been covered.
:-)
 
Now the Motorola Droid has some phenomenal specs.
- 3.7 screen with 854×480 (16:9 widescreen) capacitive touchscreen
- 600 MHz ARM Cortex A8 Processor
- Wi-Fi, EV-DO
- 5 megapixel camera with autofocus and LED flash and video recording
- QWERTY Slider, 13.7mm thick
- 3.5mm headphone jack
- 16GB onboard storage with microSD expansion slot
- Android 2.0 'Eclair'
- Builtin accelerometer
 
In addition to the specs, the Droid will come (like many android phones) with all the google applications including Google Voice.
If you have a google voice account then you can end up saving a lot of minutes by using it to connect your call instead of going over your minute plan.
Blackberries are going to become antiquated very quickly.
Android already has connectivity to office applications for checking corporate email.
As the platform evolves and the phones saturate the market, I think there will be little else that can really compete with it.
Just my two cents.
:-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758777</id>
	<title>Re:"Developers, Developers, Developers..."</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255627620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This was actually the reason I decided to buy an iPhone instead of a Palm.</p><p>I'm generally very dismissive of products where you pay a 20\% premium just for a logo stamp. The iPhone even has weaker features than a number of competitors (no memory card, lower screen resolution, poor battery), but the simple fact is, once a couple of million fanboys buy it, the app ecology is a valuable feature in itself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This was actually the reason I decided to buy an iPhone instead of a Palm.I 'm generally very dismissive of products where you pay a 20 \ % premium just for a logo stamp .
The iPhone even has weaker features than a number of competitors ( no memory card , lower screen resolution , poor battery ) , but the simple fact is , once a couple of million fanboys buy it , the app ecology is a valuable feature in itself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This was actually the reason I decided to buy an iPhone instead of a Palm.I'm generally very dismissive of products where you pay a 20\% premium just for a logo stamp.
The iPhone even has weaker features than a number of competitors (no memory card, lower screen resolution, poor battery), but the simple fact is, once a couple of million fanboys buy it, the app ecology is a valuable feature in itself.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29771663</id>
	<title>Don't you mean dissapointment with the original</title>
	<author>Sheik Yerbouti</author>
	<datestamp>1255723080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My understanding was that the original Blackberry storm was widely panned as being slow buggy and generally unusable. The Palm pre on the other hand has been said by many reviewers I have read to be solid and the only real competitor to the iPhone. By the way I own neither.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My understanding was that the original Blackberry storm was widely panned as being slow buggy and generally unusable .
The Palm pre on the other hand has been said by many reviewers I have read to be solid and the only real competitor to the iPhone .
By the way I own neither .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My understanding was that the original Blackberry storm was widely panned as being slow buggy and generally unusable.
The Palm pre on the other hand has been said by many reviewers I have read to be solid and the only real competitor to the iPhone.
By the way I own neither.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758337</id>
	<title>Re:Blackberry would be more compelling</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255625700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>it's not on blackberry either - there are several ways to route your data, through Rims MDS is just one, you can also route through your carriers wap gateway as well as the carrier BIS. This is all down to the programmer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>it 's not on blackberry either - there are several ways to route your data , through Rims MDS is just one , you can also route through your carriers wap gateway as well as the carrier BIS .
This is all down to the programmer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it's not on blackberry either - there are several ways to route your data, through Rims MDS is just one, you can also route through your carriers wap gateway as well as the carrier BIS.
This is all down to the programmer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758155</id>
	<title>Re:LOL</title>
	<author>Sockatume</author>
	<datestamp>1255624920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So this is the phone to beat, the phone to beat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So this is the phone to beat , the phone to beat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So this is the phone to beat, the phone to beat.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29766177</id>
	<title>Re:Blackberry would be more compelling</title>
	<author>Ed Avis</author>
	<datestamp>1255634880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I know Blackberries have historically had all sorts of broken ways of connecting to the outside world but I thought they had fixed it by now?  On my unit I can enable connection to 'Company Network' (the business 'enterprise' stuff) but also to 'Carrier Internet'.  Are you really saying that every time it makes an http request it goes through some giant Dr Evil server somewhere in Canada?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I know Blackberries have historically had all sorts of broken ways of connecting to the outside world but I thought they had fixed it by now ?
On my unit I can enable connection to 'Company Network ' ( the business 'enterprise ' stuff ) but also to 'Carrier Internet' .
Are you really saying that every time it makes an http request it goes through some giant Dr Evil server somewhere in Canada ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know Blackberries have historically had all sorts of broken ways of connecting to the outside world but I thought they had fixed it by now?
On my unit I can enable connection to 'Company Network' (the business 'enterprise' stuff) but also to 'Carrier Internet'.
Are you really saying that every time it makes an http request it goes through some giant Dr Evil server somewhere in Canada?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29759863</id>
	<title>What the hell mods?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255632360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not a single post in this thread deserves the Troll or Redundant mods they were given.  Troll and Redundant are not synonyms for "I don't like the products you're talking about".<br>More disturbing is, counting up the number of mod points used, it looks like there's more than one person involved in this ass-hattery.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not a single post in this thread deserves the Troll or Redundant mods they were given .
Troll and Redundant are not synonyms for " I do n't like the products you 're talking about " .More disturbing is , counting up the number of mod points used , it looks like there 's more than one person involved in this ass-hattery .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not a single post in this thread deserves the Troll or Redundant mods they were given.
Troll and Redundant are not synonyms for "I don't like the products you're talking about".More disturbing is, counting up the number of mod points used, it looks like there's more than one person involved in this ass-hattery.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29768969</id>
	<title>Re:LOL</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255709520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The palm is garbage. It always will be, there is not a phone that can, or will touch it. Period.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The palm is garbage .
It always will be , there is not a phone that can , or will touch it .
Period .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The palm is garbage.
It always will be, there is not a phone that can, or will touch it.
Period.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29762577</id>
	<title>Nokia E72</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255601580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd say Nokia E72 ftw! but then realize it was announced ages ago and is now planned to ship with a free copy of Duke Nukem Forever.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd say Nokia E72 ftw !
but then realize it was announced ages ago and is now planned to ship with a free copy of Duke Nukem Forever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd say Nokia E72 ftw!
but then realize it was announced ages ago and is now planned to ship with a free copy of Duke Nukem Forever.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29760141</id>
	<title>Re:The Disappointment of the Palm Pre</title>
	<author>AmberBlackCat</author>
	<datestamp>1255633500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You should have gotten an iPod so there would be an app for all that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You should have gotten an iPod so there would be an app for all that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You should have gotten an iPod so there would be an app for all that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29757949</id>
	<title>If they want the storm2 to be more successful...</title>
	<author>damn\_registrars</author>
	<datestamp>1255624020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>... they need to release it on a more relevant network.  Just because Verizon claims to have the most subscribers in the US doesn't mean its a relevant market for blackberry phones.  In particular the fact that Verizon is still clinging to old network technology makes it a bit of a burden for phone deployment in corporate environments.  GSM networks are head and shoulders above the Verizon network in speed of phone deployment.  <br> <br>If an employee drops their phone and needs to replace it ASAP, someone in the company can pull the SIM card, put it into a new phone, and the employee is back to work with minimal downtime - unless you're on a non-GSM carrier in which case you need to have the magic store deactivate the old phone, sell you a new phone, activate it, etc...<br> <br>
If RIM doesn't realize that their terrible choice of carrier (on an exclusive deal no less) was a big part of the lack of success in the first generation storm, then they need to have their heads examined.  Release the new phone on a modern GSM network and we'll see how it really fares.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... they need to release it on a more relevant network .
Just because Verizon claims to have the most subscribers in the US does n't mean its a relevant market for blackberry phones .
In particular the fact that Verizon is still clinging to old network technology makes it a bit of a burden for phone deployment in corporate environments .
GSM networks are head and shoulders above the Verizon network in speed of phone deployment .
If an employee drops their phone and needs to replace it ASAP , someone in the company can pull the SIM card , put it into a new phone , and the employee is back to work with minimal downtime - unless you 're on a non-GSM carrier in which case you need to have the magic store deactivate the old phone , sell you a new phone , activate it , etc.. . If RIM does n't realize that their terrible choice of carrier ( on an exclusive deal no less ) was a big part of the lack of success in the first generation storm , then they need to have their heads examined .
Release the new phone on a modern GSM network and we 'll see how it really fares .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... they need to release it on a more relevant network.
Just because Verizon claims to have the most subscribers in the US doesn't mean its a relevant market for blackberry phones.
In particular the fact that Verizon is still clinging to old network technology makes it a bit of a burden for phone deployment in corporate environments.
GSM networks are head and shoulders above the Verizon network in speed of phone deployment.
If an employee drops their phone and needs to replace it ASAP, someone in the company can pull the SIM card, put it into a new phone, and the employee is back to work with minimal downtime - unless you're on a non-GSM carrier in which case you need to have the magic store deactivate the old phone, sell you a new phone, activate it, etc... 
If RIM doesn't realize that their terrible choice of carrier (on an exclusive deal no less) was a big part of the lack of success in the first generation storm, then they need to have their heads examined.
Release the new phone on a modern GSM network and we'll see how it really fares.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29759907</id>
	<title>Re:If they want the storm2 to be more successful..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255632540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>FYI: CDMA is a newer technology than GSM.  GSM began deployment in 1990 (But had been in testing since the 80's), CDMA started being deployed in 1995.</p><p>However I do agree with the SIM card being the important thing in a company environment. If VZW and Sprint made all new phones use a UICC, it would benefit their customers greatly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>FYI : CDMA is a newer technology than GSM .
GSM began deployment in 1990 ( But had been in testing since the 80 's ) , CDMA started being deployed in 1995.However I do agree with the SIM card being the important thing in a company environment .
If VZW and Sprint made all new phones use a UICC , it would benefit their customers greatly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FYI: CDMA is a newer technology than GSM.
GSM began deployment in 1990 (But had been in testing since the 80's), CDMA started being deployed in 1995.However I do agree with the SIM card being the important thing in a company environment.
If VZW and Sprint made all new phones use a UICC, it would benefit their customers greatly.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758023</id>
	<title>Re:"Developers, Developers, Developers..."</title>
	<author>Canazza</author>
	<datestamp>1255624320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Funilly enough, no-one I know has an iPod, or any other Apple-based MP3 Player. I use my phone (A non-smart phone too) as an MP3 player, as do most of my friends. Of those that do have an MP3 Player, they've got ones of a variety of brands. It's quite possible that Apples market-share is over-inflated in some peoples minds, either that or it's under-inflated in my mind.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Funilly enough , no-one I know has an iPod , or any other Apple-based MP3 Player .
I use my phone ( A non-smart phone too ) as an MP3 player , as do most of my friends .
Of those that do have an MP3 Player , they 've got ones of a variety of brands .
It 's quite possible that Apples market-share is over-inflated in some peoples minds , either that or it 's under-inflated in my mind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funilly enough, no-one I know has an iPod, or any other Apple-based MP3 Player.
I use my phone (A non-smart phone too) as an MP3 player, as do most of my friends.
Of those that do have an MP3 Player, they've got ones of a variety of brands.
It's quite possible that Apples market-share is over-inflated in some peoples minds, either that or it's under-inflated in my mind.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29757673</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29760553</id>
	<title>Hardware</title>
	<author>Any Web Loco</author>
	<datestamp>1255635300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Nicholas - you're a smarter guy than I'll ever be but on this you're wrong. It's the hardware - it's sexy. It's thin, almost all screen, and all touch.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nicholas - you 're a smarter guy than I 'll ever be but on this you 're wrong .
It 's the hardware - it 's sexy .
It 's thin , almost all screen , and all touch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nicholas - you're a smarter guy than I'll ever be but on this you're wrong.
It's the hardware - it's sexy.
It's thin, almost all screen, and all touch.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29757673</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29759431</id>
	<title>Re:On VZW do I want the Storm 2 or Android?</title>
	<author>ducomputergeek</author>
	<datestamp>1255630440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>BB - been out in the wild, I see lots of users every day, it's a proven and reliable system.  And frankly I hear very few complaints from blackberry users.  (other than the Pearl &amp; original storm).</p><p>Android - I have yet to see someone with one in the wild.  Granted I live in an area not well serviced by T-Mobile, but the fact remains, I have yet to see ONE in use in the wild.</p><p>I've seen more Pre's than I have Android based phones.  I know there are more on the way, but with Verizon, I can't help but thinking "Now with Verizon Android Vcast.  It's android, only with half the features disabled and runs three times as slow".</p><p>I'm beginning to think that Android is going to become the desktop linux of the cell phone world.  We'll hear about it being the new "year of the android", but meanwhile most people will continue to go out and buy iPhones.  Especially if the iPhone 4G operates on multiple carriers.</p><p>(Yes I have an iPhone and love the phone.  Not so much in love with ATT)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>BB - been out in the wild , I see lots of users every day , it 's a proven and reliable system .
And frankly I hear very few complaints from blackberry users .
( other than the Pearl &amp; original storm ) .Android - I have yet to see someone with one in the wild .
Granted I live in an area not well serviced by T-Mobile , but the fact remains , I have yet to see ONE in use in the wild.I 've seen more Pre 's than I have Android based phones .
I know there are more on the way , but with Verizon , I ca n't help but thinking " Now with Verizon Android Vcast .
It 's android , only with half the features disabled and runs three times as slow " .I 'm beginning to think that Android is going to become the desktop linux of the cell phone world .
We 'll hear about it being the new " year of the android " , but meanwhile most people will continue to go out and buy iPhones .
Especially if the iPhone 4G operates on multiple carriers .
( Yes I have an iPhone and love the phone .
Not so much in love with ATT )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>BB - been out in the wild, I see lots of users every day, it's a proven and reliable system.
And frankly I hear very few complaints from blackberry users.
(other than the Pearl &amp; original storm).Android - I have yet to see someone with one in the wild.
Granted I live in an area not well serviced by T-Mobile, but the fact remains, I have yet to see ONE in use in the wild.I've seen more Pre's than I have Android based phones.
I know there are more on the way, but with Verizon, I can't help but thinking "Now with Verizon Android Vcast.
It's android, only with half the features disabled and runs three times as slow".I'm beginning to think that Android is going to become the desktop linux of the cell phone world.
We'll hear about it being the new "year of the android", but meanwhile most people will continue to go out and buy iPhones.
Especially if the iPhone 4G operates on multiple carriers.
(Yes I have an iPhone and love the phone.
Not so much in love with ATT)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29757637</id>
	<title>"feels just like clicking a button"</title>
	<author>toppavak</author>
	<datestamp>1255622760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was under the impression that the problem most users have with touchscreens isn't feedback after clicking, but before. I can touch-type on my blackberry, which lets me go a lot faster than on smooth touchscreens because I can tell my finger is on the right button by feel.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was under the impression that the problem most users have with touchscreens is n't feedback after clicking , but before .
I can touch-type on my blackberry , which lets me go a lot faster than on smooth touchscreens because I can tell my finger is on the right button by feel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was under the impression that the problem most users have with touchscreens isn't feedback after clicking, but before.
I can touch-type on my blackberry, which lets me go a lot faster than on smooth touchscreens because I can tell my finger is on the right button by feel.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29761475</id>
	<title>Re:The Disappointment of the Palm Pre</title>
	<author>carpe\_noctem</author>
	<datestamp>1255640100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>the damage to my hearing (after 20 years of listening to good music) wasn't repaired</i></p><p>I hate to break it to you, but Rush sucks.  It appears that your hearing loss has been in vain.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the damage to my hearing ( after 20 years of listening to good music ) was n't repairedI hate to break it to you , but Rush sucks .
It appears that your hearing loss has been in vain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the damage to my hearing (after 20 years of listening to good music) wasn't repairedI hate to break it to you, but Rush sucks.
It appears that your hearing loss has been in vain.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758975</id>
	<title>Disappointment of the Pre?</title>
	<author>nilbog</author>
	<datestamp>1255628520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There was a segment on the daily show recently where Stewart showed how CNN would allow people to make spurious claims and then say "ok, we're out of time!" without making them back up their claims.  That's a little how I feel here.  How is the Pre disappointing?  My impression is that most people who own one really love it and are very cognizant of the advantages over the iPhone (multitasking, open development environment, using the data connection for things that are actually useful).</p><p>So I'm wondering if this "disappointment" is just the disappointment of barrence, and really has no baring on the general view of the public.  Any way, we're out of space on the synopsis, so I guess we'll never know.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There was a segment on the daily show recently where Stewart showed how CNN would allow people to make spurious claims and then say " ok , we 're out of time !
" without making them back up their claims .
That 's a little how I feel here .
How is the Pre disappointing ?
My impression is that most people who own one really love it and are very cognizant of the advantages over the iPhone ( multitasking , open development environment , using the data connection for things that are actually useful ) .So I 'm wondering if this " disappointment " is just the disappointment of barrence , and really has no baring on the general view of the public .
Any way , we 're out of space on the synopsis , so I guess we 'll never know .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There was a segment on the daily show recently where Stewart showed how CNN would allow people to make spurious claims and then say "ok, we're out of time!
" without making them back up their claims.
That's a little how I feel here.
How is the Pre disappointing?
My impression is that most people who own one really love it and are very cognizant of the advantages over the iPhone (multitasking, open development environment, using the data connection for things that are actually useful).So I'm wondering if this "disappointment" is just the disappointment of barrence, and really has no baring on the general view of the public.
Any way, we're out of space on the synopsis, so I guess we'll never know.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29757627</id>
	<title>Blackberry would be more compelling</title>
	<author>swb</author>
	<datestamp>1255622640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If there was more direct data in/out to the device, versus "securely" routing everything through RIM.  That model seems like it makes sense in a 1999 way, but now it just makes it awkward to use them outside of a BES environment.</p><p>The iPhone may be a closed platform, but at least data I/O isn't forced through Apple's servers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If there was more direct data in/out to the device , versus " securely " routing everything through RIM .
That model seems like it makes sense in a 1999 way , but now it just makes it awkward to use them outside of a BES environment.The iPhone may be a closed platform , but at least data I/O is n't forced through Apple 's servers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If there was more direct data in/out to the device, versus "securely" routing everything through RIM.
That model seems like it makes sense in a 1999 way, but now it just makes it awkward to use them outside of a BES environment.The iPhone may be a closed platform, but at least data I/O isn't forced through Apple's servers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29760915</id>
	<title>Re:If they want the storm2 to be more successful..</title>
	<author>RepugnantJohn</author>
	<datestamp>1255637160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seems a troll, but VZW's is head and shoulders above AT&amp;T and all other cell phone companies (regardless of technology) are just bit players.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems a troll , but VZW 's is head and shoulders above AT&amp;T and all other cell phone companies ( regardless of technology ) are just bit players .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems a troll, but VZW's is head and shoulders above AT&amp;T and all other cell phone companies (regardless of technology) are just bit players.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29757949</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758335</id>
	<title>Re:Blackberry would be more compelling</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255625700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Generally, the entire point of a blackberry is going to be the BES or BIS.  Why on earth would you get one if you arent using those?  It doesnt support activesync, even!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Generally , the entire point of a blackberry is going to be the BES or BIS .
Why on earth would you get one if you arent using those ?
It doesnt support activesync , even !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Generally, the entire point of a blackberry is going to be the BES or BIS.
Why on earth would you get one if you arent using those?
It doesnt support activesync, even!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29757627</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758065</id>
	<title>The important question...</title>
	<author>Linker3000</author>
	<datestamp>1255624560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does it support IMAP/POP/SMTP natively or are you still stuck with the pile-of-crap BIS/BES services for email (or using Web interfaces or third party java apps)?</p><p>I won't even consider looking at this model for the rest of our small (16) corporate team unless we can use our own (postfix-based) mail servers. The fact that we have to hand over our email account usernames and passwords AND pay just so the Vodafone BIS server can pick up mail and kindly pass it on to the Blackberries (and vice versa) is simply crap, a security risk and a PITA if a user changes their password via our mail server's Web interface.</p><p>That is why I have an HTC Rhodium (Touch Pro 2)!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does it support IMAP/POP/SMTP natively or are you still stuck with the pile-of-crap BIS/BES services for email ( or using Web interfaces or third party java apps ) ? I wo n't even consider looking at this model for the rest of our small ( 16 ) corporate team unless we can use our own ( postfix-based ) mail servers .
The fact that we have to hand over our email account usernames and passwords AND pay just so the Vodafone BIS server can pick up mail and kindly pass it on to the Blackberries ( and vice versa ) is simply crap , a security risk and a PITA if a user changes their password via our mail server 's Web interface.That is why I have an HTC Rhodium ( Touch Pro 2 ) !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does it support IMAP/POP/SMTP natively or are you still stuck with the pile-of-crap BIS/BES services for email (or using Web interfaces or third party java apps)?I won't even consider looking at this model for the rest of our small (16) corporate team unless we can use our own (postfix-based) mail servers.
The fact that we have to hand over our email account usernames and passwords AND pay just so the Vodafone BIS server can pick up mail and kindly pass it on to the Blackberries (and vice versa) is simply crap, a security risk and a PITA if a user changes their password via our mail server's Web interface.That is why I have an HTC Rhodium (Touch Pro 2)!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29766555</id>
	<title>Re:Blackberry would be more compelling</title>
	<author>stiller</author>
	<datestamp>1255685520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The iPhone may be a closed platform, but at least data I/O isn't forced through Apple's servers.</p></div><p>It is if you want live notifications: <a href="http://developer.apple.com/iphone/program/sdk/apns.html" title="apple.com">http://developer.apple.com/iphone/program/sdk/apns.html</a> [apple.com]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The iPhone may be a closed platform , but at least data I/O is n't forced through Apple 's servers.It is if you want live notifications : http : //developer.apple.com/iphone/program/sdk/apns.html [ apple.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The iPhone may be a closed platform, but at least data I/O isn't forced through Apple's servers.It is if you want live notifications: http://developer.apple.com/iphone/program/sdk/apns.html [apple.com]
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29757627</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29759965</id>
	<title>Merry xmass!</title>
	<author>msimm</author>
	<datestamp>1255632780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/logicmail/" title="sourceforge.net">LogicMail</a> [sourceforge.net]. Open source loves you (it's a great program)!</htmltext>
<tokenext>LogicMail [ sourceforge.net ] .
Open source loves you ( it 's a great program ) !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>LogicMail [sourceforge.net].
Open source loves you (it's a great program)!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758065</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29760635</id>
	<title>Re:If they want the storm2 to be more successful..</title>
	<author>rsborg</author>
	<datestamp>1255635720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>If an employee drops their phone and needs to replace it ASAP, someone in the company can pull the SIM card, put it into a new phone, and the employee is back to work with minimal downtime</p></div></blockquote><p>Try this with the iPhone... it is a GSM phone but this does not work (you need to call the carrier).  This is relevant as the new blackberry is trying to compete with the iPhone. In fact, SIM locking is very common in the US and not limited to the iPhone (though the iPhone has the most restrictive implementation).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If an employee drops their phone and needs to replace it ASAP , someone in the company can pull the SIM card , put it into a new phone , and the employee is back to work with minimal downtimeTry this with the iPhone... it is a GSM phone but this does not work ( you need to call the carrier ) .
This is relevant as the new blackberry is trying to compete with the iPhone .
In fact , SIM locking is very common in the US and not limited to the iPhone ( though the iPhone has the most restrictive implementation ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If an employee drops their phone and needs to replace it ASAP, someone in the company can pull the SIM card, put it into a new phone, and the employee is back to work with minimal downtimeTry this with the iPhone... it is a GSM phone but this does not work (you need to call the carrier).
This is relevant as the new blackberry is trying to compete with the iPhone.
In fact, SIM locking is very common in the US and not limited to the iPhone (though the iPhone has the most restrictive implementation).
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29757949</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758167</id>
	<title>Re:LOL</title>
	<author>Anonymous Monkey</author>
	<datestamp>1255624980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, let's not talk about Android.  Actualy the way I cut up phone users by what they do with their phone:<p>1)  Cell Phones: people who make calls and take some pictures (aka my mom and dad)</p><p>2) Cell Phones with Keyboards, text heavy IM users who make calls, (aka me, my wife, ect). </p><p>3)  Smart Phones:  Appointments, e-mail, text msgs, perhaps twiter, and phone calls (My boss and his blackberry buddies) </p><p>4)  The iPhone:  People who mostly use internet access and send messages.</p><p>And on a related note, I was out for pizza the other night and counted over 10 iPhones.  The reason they were so easy to spot was that people who had them were face to the phone and not talking for most of the night.  Once it was the joke that Nerds would prefer to IM than talk, but in the collage/partying side of the restaurant it was all nose to phone, and in the back their was a Magic the Gathering group that was laughing and talking and interacting with each-other.  Perhaps the next joke will be that every one likes IM and txt better, but nerds are trying to be all smart practice using their vocabulary and talk face to face.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , let 's not talk about Android .
Actualy the way I cut up phone users by what they do with their phone : 1 ) Cell Phones : people who make calls and take some pictures ( aka my mom and dad ) 2 ) Cell Phones with Keyboards , text heavy IM users who make calls , ( aka me , my wife , ect ) .
3 ) Smart Phones : Appointments , e-mail , text msgs , perhaps twiter , and phone calls ( My boss and his blackberry buddies ) 4 ) The iPhone : People who mostly use internet access and send messages.And on a related note , I was out for pizza the other night and counted over 10 iPhones .
The reason they were so easy to spot was that people who had them were face to the phone and not talking for most of the night .
Once it was the joke that Nerds would prefer to IM than talk , but in the collage/partying side of the restaurant it was all nose to phone , and in the back their was a Magic the Gathering group that was laughing and talking and interacting with each-other .
Perhaps the next joke will be that every one likes IM and txt better , but nerds are trying to be all smart practice using their vocabulary and talk face to face .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, let's not talk about Android.
Actualy the way I cut up phone users by what they do with their phone:1)  Cell Phones: people who make calls and take some pictures (aka my mom and dad)2) Cell Phones with Keyboards, text heavy IM users who make calls, (aka me, my wife, ect).
3)  Smart Phones:  Appointments, e-mail, text msgs, perhaps twiter, and phone calls (My boss and his blackberry buddies) 4)  The iPhone:  People who mostly use internet access and send messages.And on a related note, I was out for pizza the other night and counted over 10 iPhones.
The reason they were so easy to spot was that people who had them were face to the phone and not talking for most of the night.
Once it was the joke that Nerds would prefer to IM than talk, but in the collage/partying side of the restaurant it was all nose to phone, and in the back their was a Magic the Gathering group that was laughing and talking and interacting with each-other.
Perhaps the next joke will be that every one likes IM and txt better, but nerds are trying to be all smart practice using their vocabulary and talk face to face.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29757609</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29763355</id>
	<title>Re:Blackberry would be more compelling</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255605120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"versus "securely" routing everything through RIM. That model seems like it makes sense in a 1999 way"</p><p>It's my working assumption that RIM is basically a fully integrated member of the US intelligence community, and the fact that highly confidential business communications from major international corporations get routed through their servers - and that they PAY to do this! - is a really nice bonus which they have no intention of giving up. Notice whose phone Obama uses? And how easily it got NSA-modified?</p><p>It also intrigues me that setting up Blackberry service on a SIM card requires special telco magic. It's not just running over ordinary Internet over cellphone data service, no. There's some magical Blackberry sauce right down to the cell. That suggests they're a company with a fair bit of clout.</p><p>And I think about <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto\_AG" title="wikipedia.org">Crypto AG</a> [wikipedia.org] and wonder, 'Would Blackberry?'</p><p>Let's just say that if I owned Blackberry, heck yeah I'd have that 'AES encryption' backdoored to the hilt and be vacuuming up every corporate email I could get my hands on. It's probably best for the world that I don't.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" versus " securely " routing everything through RIM .
That model seems like it makes sense in a 1999 way " It 's my working assumption that RIM is basically a fully integrated member of the US intelligence community , and the fact that highly confidential business communications from major international corporations get routed through their servers - and that they PAY to do this !
- is a really nice bonus which they have no intention of giving up .
Notice whose phone Obama uses ?
And how easily it got NSA-modified ? It also intrigues me that setting up Blackberry service on a SIM card requires special telco magic .
It 's not just running over ordinary Internet over cellphone data service , no .
There 's some magical Blackberry sauce right down to the cell .
That suggests they 're a company with a fair bit of clout.And I think about Crypto AG [ wikipedia.org ] and wonder , 'Would Blackberry ?
'Let 's just say that if I owned Blackberry , heck yeah I 'd have that 'AES encryption ' backdoored to the hilt and be vacuuming up every corporate email I could get my hands on .
It 's probably best for the world that I do n't .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"versus "securely" routing everything through RIM.
That model seems like it makes sense in a 1999 way"It's my working assumption that RIM is basically a fully integrated member of the US intelligence community, and the fact that highly confidential business communications from major international corporations get routed through their servers - and that they PAY to do this!
- is a really nice bonus which they have no intention of giving up.
Notice whose phone Obama uses?
And how easily it got NSA-modified?It also intrigues me that setting up Blackberry service on a SIM card requires special telco magic.
It's not just running over ordinary Internet over cellphone data service, no.
There's some magical Blackberry sauce right down to the cell.
That suggests they're a company with a fair bit of clout.And I think about Crypto AG [wikipedia.org] and wonder, 'Would Blackberry?
'Let's just say that if I owned Blackberry, heck yeah I'd have that 'AES encryption' backdoored to the hilt and be vacuuming up every corporate email I could get my hands on.
It's probably best for the world that I don't.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29763041</id>
	<title>Re:"Developers, Developers, Developers..."</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255603500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>strangely enough, no-one I know, doesn't have goats, land, guns, and crops.</p><p>what's an ipod?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>strangely enough , no-one I know , does n't have goats , land , guns , and crops.what 's an ipod ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>strangely enough, no-one I know, doesn't have goats, land, guns, and crops.what's an ipod?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758009</id>
	<title>Re:LOL</title>
	<author>mvdwege</author>
	<datestamp>1255624320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It will indeed take some time to beat Nokia.</p><p>
Mart</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It will indeed take some time to beat Nokia .
Mart</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It will indeed take some time to beat Nokia.
Mart</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758577</id>
	<title>Re:The important question...</title>
	<author>Overzeetop</author>
	<datestamp>1255626660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't you find it interesting that all the open source proponents here turn tail and defend RIM when it suits their purpose?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't you find it interesting that all the open source proponents here turn tail and defend RIM when it suits their purpose ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't you find it interesting that all the open source proponents here turn tail and defend RIM when it suits their purpose?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29760225</id>
	<title>Re:LOL</title>
	<author>Anonymous Monkey</author>
	<datestamp>1255633860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I just realized I went off on a tangent and didn't finish up my point.  The iPhone is not, in my opinion, a smart phone, and so to de-iThrone the iPhone it will take something that isn't a smart phone, but something new and never thought of before.  My bet is on some slick hardware running Android, as it is the most flexible combination I can think of right now.  Perhaps something from Arochs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I just realized I went off on a tangent and did n't finish up my point .
The iPhone is not , in my opinion , a smart phone , and so to de-iThrone the iPhone it will take something that is n't a smart phone , but something new and never thought of before .
My bet is on some slick hardware running Android , as it is the most flexible combination I can think of right now .
Perhaps something from Arochs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just realized I went off on a tangent and didn't finish up my point.
The iPhone is not, in my opinion, a smart phone, and so to de-iThrone the iPhone it will take something that isn't a smart phone, but something new and never thought of before.
My bet is on some slick hardware running Android, as it is the most flexible combination I can think of right now.
Perhaps something from Arochs.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29765243</id>
	<title>Re:"Developers, Developers, Developers..."</title>
	<author>indiechild</author>
	<datestamp>1255620300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The reason why people buy iPods is because Apple offer an integrated experience. You're not just buying an iPod, you're buying into iTunes and the iTunes music store. This doesn't appeal to a lot of techie types but it works really well for everyday users. Until other manufacturers offer the same integrated experience, Apple isn't going to be dethroned.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The reason why people buy iPods is because Apple offer an integrated experience .
You 're not just buying an iPod , you 're buying into iTunes and the iTunes music store .
This does n't appeal to a lot of techie types but it works really well for everyday users .
Until other manufacturers offer the same integrated experience , Apple is n't going to be dethroned .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The reason why people buy iPods is because Apple offer an integrated experience.
You're not just buying an iPod, you're buying into iTunes and the iTunes music store.
This doesn't appeal to a lot of techie types but it works really well for everyday users.
Until other manufacturers offer the same integrated experience, Apple isn't going to be dethroned.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29759027</id>
	<title>Re:"Developers, Developers, Developers..."</title>
	<author>mcsqueak</author>
	<datestamp>1255628700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Funilly enough, no-one I know has an iPod, or any other Apple-based MP3 Player.</p></div><p>Most of the people I know have an iPod of some form of another, from the old Nano up to the new iTouch. Personally, I have an old-school 20 gig iPod with the scrollwheel and black/white screen that lives in my car serving as a way to feed my stereo with all my music. I also have an iPhone that I'll keep a few favorite albums on, but mostly I use it to podcast these days while at work.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Funilly enough , no-one I know has an iPod , or any other Apple-based MP3 Player.Most of the people I know have an iPod of some form of another , from the old Nano up to the new iTouch .
Personally , I have an old-school 20 gig iPod with the scrollwheel and black/white screen that lives in my car serving as a way to feed my stereo with all my music .
I also have an iPhone that I 'll keep a few favorite albums on , but mostly I use it to podcast these days while at work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funilly enough, no-one I know has an iPod, or any other Apple-based MP3 Player.Most of the people I know have an iPod of some form of another, from the old Nano up to the new iTouch.
Personally, I have an old-school 20 gig iPod with the scrollwheel and black/white screen that lives in my car serving as a way to feed my stereo with all my music.
I also have an iPhone that I'll keep a few favorite albums on, but mostly I use it to podcast these days while at work.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29759721</id>
	<title>Re:On VZW do I want the Storm 2 or Android?</title>
	<author>Tyr\_7BE</author>
	<datestamp>1255631760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was under the impression that there were *many* more apps available for Blackberry than Android.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was under the impression that there were * many * more apps available for Blackberry than Android .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was under the impression that there were *many* more apps available for Blackberry than Android.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29763495</id>
	<title>Re:"Developers, Developers, Developers..."</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255605900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Funilly enough, no-one I know has an iPod, or any other Apple-based MP3 Player.</p></div><p>OMG. Leave the basement already!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Funilly enough , no-one I know has an iPod , or any other Apple-based MP3 Player.OMG .
Leave the basement already !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funilly enough, no-one I know has an iPod, or any other Apple-based MP3 Player.OMG.
Leave the basement already!
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29757977</id>
	<title>Re:LOL</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255624080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You mean the Blackberry storm 1 that only came out barely a year ago?<br>Or are you refering to the King Kong sized Gorilla in the room formally known as Iphone?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean the Blackberry storm 1 that only came out barely a year ago ? Or are you refering to the King Kong sized Gorilla in the room formally known as Iphone ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean the Blackberry storm 1 that only came out barely a year ago?Or are you refering to the King Kong sized Gorilla in the room formally known as Iphone?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29758139</id>
	<title>Glad I don't own Apple stock...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255624860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Smart phone to beat?  This can mean only one thing... Apple went out of business!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Smart phone to beat ?
This can mean only one thing... Apple went out of business !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Smart phone to beat?
This can mean only one thing... Apple went out of business!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29759299</id>
	<title>Re:If they want the storm2 to be more successful..</title>
	<author>LWATCDR</author>
	<datestamp>1255629960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"If an employee drops their phone and needs to replace it ASAP, someone in the company can pull the SIM card, put it into a new phone, and the employee is back to work with minimal downtime - unless you're on a non-GSM carrier in which case you need to have the magic store deactivate the old phone, sell you a new phone, activate it, etc..."<br>If the SIM is from the same carrier or if the phone is "unlocked".<br>CDMA is a better technology than GSM. In fact the new high speed GSM modes are based on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... CDMA.<br>Verizon and Sprint both seem to deliver better service in more places than TMobile and AT&amp;T which are the two GSM providers.<br>The idea of unlocked phones with SIM cards is great and if you travel to europe a lot GSM is the way to go but it isn not an old network technology.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" If an employee drops their phone and needs to replace it ASAP , someone in the company can pull the SIM card , put it into a new phone , and the employee is back to work with minimal downtime - unless you 're on a non-GSM carrier in which case you need to have the magic store deactivate the old phone , sell you a new phone , activate it , etc... " If the SIM is from the same carrier or if the phone is " unlocked " .CDMA is a better technology than GSM .
In fact the new high speed GSM modes are based on ... CDMA.Verizon and Sprint both seem to deliver better service in more places than TMobile and AT&amp;T which are the two GSM providers.The idea of unlocked phones with SIM cards is great and if you travel to europe a lot GSM is the way to go but it isn not an old network technology .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"If an employee drops their phone and needs to replace it ASAP, someone in the company can pull the SIM card, put it into a new phone, and the employee is back to work with minimal downtime - unless you're on a non-GSM carrier in which case you need to have the magic store deactivate the old phone, sell you a new phone, activate it, etc..."If the SIM is from the same carrier or if the phone is "unlocked".CDMA is a better technology than GSM.
In fact the new high speed GSM modes are based on ... CDMA.Verizon and Sprint both seem to deliver better service in more places than TMobile and AT&amp;T which are the two GSM providers.The idea of unlocked phones with SIM cards is great and if you travel to europe a lot GSM is the way to go but it isn not an old network technology.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29757605</id>
	<title>Disappointment of the Palm Pre?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255622520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It hardly seems like a disappointment based on the amount and tone of coverage I've seen of the Pre.  I haven't seen much about the Pre in a business environment (read: syncing to Exchange etc) but it seems great otherwise.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It hardly seems like a disappointment based on the amount and tone of coverage I 've seen of the Pre .
I have n't seen much about the Pre in a business environment ( read : syncing to Exchange etc ) but it seems great otherwise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It hardly seems like a disappointment based on the amount and tone of coverage I've seen of the Pre.
I haven't seen much about the Pre in a business environment (read: syncing to Exchange etc) but it seems great otherwise.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_15_1359243.29757555</id>
	<title>First Post</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255622340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Storm this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Storm this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Storm this.</sentencetext>
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