<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_14_1532259</id>
	<title>Device Protects Day Traders From Emotional Trading</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1255547820000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Philips Electronics, a Netherlands-based company, has come up with a device designed to protect day traders from <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091013/od\_nm/us\_stress">emotionally based trading decisions</a>. The Rationalizer measures your galvanic skin response and lets you know when you are under stress. An online trader can then take a "time-out, wind down and re-consider their actions," according to the company. This may have come too late for us, but at least future generations won't have to live through the horror of angry day trading.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Philips Electronics , a Netherlands-based company , has come up with a device designed to protect day traders from emotionally based trading decisions .
The Rationalizer measures your galvanic skin response and lets you know when you are under stress .
An online trader can then take a " time-out , wind down and re-consider their actions , " according to the company .
This may have come too late for us , but at least future generations wo n't have to live through the horror of angry day trading .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Philips Electronics, a Netherlands-based company, has come up with a device designed to protect day traders from emotionally based trading decisions.
The Rationalizer measures your galvanic skin response and lets you know when you are under stress.
An online trader can then take a "time-out, wind down and re-consider their actions," according to the company.
This may have come too late for us, but at least future generations won't have to live through the horror of angry day trading.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29749011</id>
	<title>benthalus</title>
	<author>benthalus</author>
	<datestamp>1255553400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is this a quasi-legitimate use of an E-meter? I hope the Church of Scientology doesn't get wind of this, we all know how litigious they are.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is this a quasi-legitimate use of an E-meter ?
I hope the Church of Scientology does n't get wind of this , we all know how litigious they are .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is this a quasi-legitimate use of an E-meter?
I hope the Church of Scientology doesn't get wind of this, we all know how litigious they are.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29749123</id>
	<title>Re:galvanic skin response = wheatstone bridge</title>
	<author>natehoy</author>
	<datestamp>1255553940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>...but that just makes me even more irritated.</p></div><p>ERROR: Post Rejected.  Galvanic Response indicates irritation.  You have been logged out of<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.</p><p>Please wait 1 minute and retry.</p><p>Have a marvelously wonderful day.</p><p>Signed,</p><p>
&nbsp; - GalvaNanny.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...but that just makes me even more irritated.ERROR : Post Rejected .
Galvanic Response indicates irritation .
You have been logged out of /.Please wait 1 minute and retry.Have a marvelously wonderful day.Signed ,   - GalvaNanny .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...but that just makes me even more irritated.ERROR: Post Rejected.
Galvanic Response indicates irritation.
You have been logged out of /.Please wait 1 minute and retry.Have a marvelously wonderful day.Signed,
  - GalvaNanny.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29749169</id>
	<title>Microsoft Windows</title>
	<author>microbee</author>
	<datestamp>1255510980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"You seem to be under stress. Are you sure you want to reboot Windows?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" You seem to be under stress .
Are you sure you want to reboot Windows ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"You seem to be under stress.
Are you sure you want to reboot Windows?
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29749001</id>
	<title>That doesn't sound useful</title>
	<author>CrazyLion</author>
	<datestamp>1255553400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm a trader by profession (although not a day trader) and making emotional decisions is about the worst thing you can do. The only worse thing is NOT making a call because you happen to be excited.</p><p>It's a learned behaviour, but a trader needs to be able to abstract away from the trade. You almost need to pretend that somebody else is doing the trade and you're just watching. I think any trader who stays in the job learns this skill eventually. The first time I traded a few million dollars of risk, I was down to few last red cells in my adrenaline stream. If I kept going that way, I'd be either an unemployed or an alcoholic (or most likely both). Instead I learned not to take it too personally. Now a large trade barely increases my pulse.</p><p>I don't think a device can replace this behaviour. In a fast market my heart may be way up due to working on several things at once and trying to keep up with the information. I still need to make trades, I just need to stay rational. A glorified heart rate monitor won't help with this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm a trader by profession ( although not a day trader ) and making emotional decisions is about the worst thing you can do .
The only worse thing is NOT making a call because you happen to be excited.It 's a learned behaviour , but a trader needs to be able to abstract away from the trade .
You almost need to pretend that somebody else is doing the trade and you 're just watching .
I think any trader who stays in the job learns this skill eventually .
The first time I traded a few million dollars of risk , I was down to few last red cells in my adrenaline stream .
If I kept going that way , I 'd be either an unemployed or an alcoholic ( or most likely both ) .
Instead I learned not to take it too personally .
Now a large trade barely increases my pulse.I do n't think a device can replace this behaviour .
In a fast market my heart may be way up due to working on several things at once and trying to keep up with the information .
I still need to make trades , I just need to stay rational .
A glorified heart rate monitor wo n't help with this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm a trader by profession (although not a day trader) and making emotional decisions is about the worst thing you can do.
The only worse thing is NOT making a call because you happen to be excited.It's a learned behaviour, but a trader needs to be able to abstract away from the trade.
You almost need to pretend that somebody else is doing the trade and you're just watching.
I think any trader who stays in the job learns this skill eventually.
The first time I traded a few million dollars of risk, I was down to few last red cells in my adrenaline stream.
If I kept going that way, I'd be either an unemployed or an alcoholic (or most likely both).
Instead I learned not to take it too personally.
Now a large trade barely increases my pulse.I don't think a device can replace this behaviour.
In a fast market my heart may be way up due to working on several things at once and trying to keep up with the information.
I still need to make trades, I just need to stay rational.
A glorified heart rate monitor won't help with this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29750135</id>
	<title>Device tells traders when market is open?</title>
	<author>misnohmer</author>
	<datestamp>1255515480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I used to day trade. I don't remember a time when I wasn't stressed during trading hours. When you day trade, you always are under some stress, even if it's the euforia of just making 10\% in 5 minutes (which would likely trigger the stress indicator as it is an intense emotional response). I got out of day trading having made money overall, but thinking I will never do it again - way too stressful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I used to day trade .
I do n't remember a time when I was n't stressed during trading hours .
When you day trade , you always are under some stress , even if it 's the euforia of just making 10 \ % in 5 minutes ( which would likely trigger the stress indicator as it is an intense emotional response ) .
I got out of day trading having made money overall , but thinking I will never do it again - way too stressful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used to day trade.
I don't remember a time when I wasn't stressed during trading hours.
When you day trade, you always are under some stress, even if it's the euforia of just making 10\% in 5 minutes (which would likely trigger the stress indicator as it is an intense emotional response).
I got out of day trading having made money overall, but thinking I will never do it again - way too stressful.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29749171</id>
	<title>False positive or not?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255510980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The danger of any such device is the assumption that the measured response is inappropriate. Stress responses are generally more useful than not.</p><p>If applied to a vehicle driver, as suggested in a comment above, the results could be disastrous.</p><p>I believe more than galvanic skin response would be necessary to construct devices of sufficient sophistication to distinguish inappropriate human emotional reactions from valid reactions to stressful situations. I imagine that heart rate, respiration and facial expression analysis would be required at a minimum. If it is even possible.</p><p>As for the day trader, perhaps he is breaking a sweat for good reason?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The danger of any such device is the assumption that the measured response is inappropriate .
Stress responses are generally more useful than not.If applied to a vehicle driver , as suggested in a comment above , the results could be disastrous.I believe more than galvanic skin response would be necessary to construct devices of sufficient sophistication to distinguish inappropriate human emotional reactions from valid reactions to stressful situations .
I imagine that heart rate , respiration and facial expression analysis would be required at a minimum .
If it is even possible.As for the day trader , perhaps he is breaking a sweat for good reason ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The danger of any such device is the assumption that the measured response is inappropriate.
Stress responses are generally more useful than not.If applied to a vehicle driver, as suggested in a comment above, the results could be disastrous.I believe more than galvanic skin response would be necessary to construct devices of sufficient sophistication to distinguish inappropriate human emotional reactions from valid reactions to stressful situations.
I imagine that heart rate, respiration and facial expression analysis would be required at a minimum.
If it is even possible.As for the day trader, perhaps he is breaking a sweat for good reason?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29754005</id>
	<title>a trader. me.  trades: 6000\%, 3000\%, 2000\%, 1300\%</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255549680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i am a full time retail trader.</p><p>i trade from a bedroom trading room.</p><p>one of my trading buddies went from $50,000 to $6,000,000 from a bedroom trading room using his head. doing his own thinking.</p><p>this year i have had a trade that was up 6000\%. i took half out at 3000\% and the other at 2000\%. bp option went from $0.07 to over $4.00 on a 1000 shares. monday i cover cern. $0.10 to $1.40. 1300\%. ntes. 300\%. a day ago.</p><p>you need a complete trading plan to continuously make more money than you lose.</p><p>that is what losing traders do not have.</p><p>traders make money and stimulate the economy. some of us make a lot of donations.</p><p>i am working on a phd in advanced input devices.</p><p>currently i have a patent pending on one of my advanced input devices. an integrated keyboard/mouse. i use it everyday to trade.</p><p>my trading pays for my research and patent fees among other things.</p><p>i put all my trades up on twitter in real time.</p><p>i am trying to show people that all you need to make money trading is a trading account.</p><p>everything else is free from the library or the internet.</p><p>there is no secret sauce to making money trading.</p><p>the thing between a trader's ears is all one needs to make money.</p><p>twittering as stocktradr</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i am a full time retail trader.i trade from a bedroom trading room.one of my trading buddies went from $ 50,000 to $ 6,000,000 from a bedroom trading room using his head .
doing his own thinking.this year i have had a trade that was up 6000 \ % .
i took half out at 3000 \ % and the other at 2000 \ % .
bp option went from $ 0.07 to over $ 4.00 on a 1000 shares .
monday i cover cern .
$ 0.10 to $ 1.40 .
1300 \ % . ntes .
300 \ % . a day ago.you need a complete trading plan to continuously make more money than you lose.that is what losing traders do not have.traders make money and stimulate the economy .
some of us make a lot of donations.i am working on a phd in advanced input devices.currently i have a patent pending on one of my advanced input devices .
an integrated keyboard/mouse .
i use it everyday to trade.my trading pays for my research and patent fees among other things.i put all my trades up on twitter in real time.i am trying to show people that all you need to make money trading is a trading account.everything else is free from the library or the internet.there is no secret sauce to making money trading.the thing between a trader 's ears is all one needs to make money.twittering as stocktradr</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i am a full time retail trader.i trade from a bedroom trading room.one of my trading buddies went from $50,000 to $6,000,000 from a bedroom trading room using his head.
doing his own thinking.this year i have had a trade that was up 6000\%.
i took half out at 3000\% and the other at 2000\%.
bp option went from $0.07 to over $4.00 on a 1000 shares.
monday i cover cern.
$0.10 to $1.40.
1300\%. ntes.
300\%. a day ago.you need a complete trading plan to continuously make more money than you lose.that is what losing traders do not have.traders make money and stimulate the economy.
some of us make a lot of donations.i am working on a phd in advanced input devices.currently i have a patent pending on one of my advanced input devices.
an integrated keyboard/mouse.
i use it everyday to trade.my trading pays for my research and patent fees among other things.i put all my trades up on twitter in real time.i am trying to show people that all you need to make money trading is a trading account.everything else is free from the library or the internet.there is no secret sauce to making money trading.the thing between a trader's ears is all one needs to make money.twittering as stocktradr</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29754341</id>
	<title>Bad news...</title>
	<author>ignavus</author>
	<datestamp>1255597320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Boss (looking at Rationalizer): "What? You're not stressed? I am obviously not pushing you hard enough."</p><p>Naaa. No way this thing could be abused. Impossible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Boss ( looking at Rationalizer ) : " What ?
You 're not stressed ?
I am obviously not pushing you hard enough. " Naaa .
No way this thing could be abused .
Impossible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Boss (looking at Rationalizer): "What?
You're not stressed?
I am obviously not pushing you hard enough."Naaa.
No way this thing could be abused.
Impossible.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29749359</id>
	<title>Re:galvanic skin response = wheatstone bridge</title>
	<author>smellsofbikes</author>
	<datestamp>1255511940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't like replying to my own post, but I'm still irritated and have more to rant about.  A simple wheatstone bridge isn't of much use because it's an absolute measurement, and the system, if calibrated for testing people in Italy, where they're more likely to be sweaty, hot, and irritable, would have a lot of issues testing people in the Antarctic, where nobody's sweaty and probably people are generally somewhat calmer.  There is an adjustment knob, traditionally, of a 1M or thereabouts pot on one of the other legs, but the user has to keep moving it to keep the meter on-scale.  It *would* actually be useful to hook this thing to a microcontroller with an A/D and a D/A so that the uC could control the amplifier gain, because that way you could have the thing record your sweat record over time and do some useful adaptive prediction with it.  Then *maybe* you could actually detect that the person was suddenly unusually tense and cut off trading (although maybe he's just watching porn in another browser window.)  But the entire idea of sweat being a great predictor of behavior is weak.  I taught my 6 year old brother how to push a so-called lie detector needle around to wherever he wanted it, and when I was briefly dating a Scientologist, I thoroughly unsettled her and her family by being able to move the meter needle from one peg of the meter to the other, back and forth, while having a nice pleasant conversation.  Which is to say, once you have played with one for a little bit, it's easy to fool, and even with a uC doing monitoring and analysis of your past stress history, a couple weeks of experimentation and you could easily false-negative it when you need to and go ahead and do that unwise trade.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't like replying to my own post , but I 'm still irritated and have more to rant about .
A simple wheatstone bridge is n't of much use because it 's an absolute measurement , and the system , if calibrated for testing people in Italy , where they 're more likely to be sweaty , hot , and irritable , would have a lot of issues testing people in the Antarctic , where nobody 's sweaty and probably people are generally somewhat calmer .
There is an adjustment knob , traditionally , of a 1M or thereabouts pot on one of the other legs , but the user has to keep moving it to keep the meter on-scale .
It * would * actually be useful to hook this thing to a microcontroller with an A/D and a D/A so that the uC could control the amplifier gain , because that way you could have the thing record your sweat record over time and do some useful adaptive prediction with it .
Then * maybe * you could actually detect that the person was suddenly unusually tense and cut off trading ( although maybe he 's just watching porn in another browser window .
) But the entire idea of sweat being a great predictor of behavior is weak .
I taught my 6 year old brother how to push a so-called lie detector needle around to wherever he wanted it , and when I was briefly dating a Scientologist , I thoroughly unsettled her and her family by being able to move the meter needle from one peg of the meter to the other , back and forth , while having a nice pleasant conversation .
Which is to say , once you have played with one for a little bit , it 's easy to fool , and even with a uC doing monitoring and analysis of your past stress history , a couple weeks of experimentation and you could easily false-negative it when you need to and go ahead and do that unwise trade .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't like replying to my own post, but I'm still irritated and have more to rant about.
A simple wheatstone bridge isn't of much use because it's an absolute measurement, and the system, if calibrated for testing people in Italy, where they're more likely to be sweaty, hot, and irritable, would have a lot of issues testing people in the Antarctic, where nobody's sweaty and probably people are generally somewhat calmer.
There is an adjustment knob, traditionally, of a 1M or thereabouts pot on one of the other legs, but the user has to keep moving it to keep the meter on-scale.
It *would* actually be useful to hook this thing to a microcontroller with an A/D and a D/A so that the uC could control the amplifier gain, because that way you could have the thing record your sweat record over time and do some useful adaptive prediction with it.
Then *maybe* you could actually detect that the person was suddenly unusually tense and cut off trading (although maybe he's just watching porn in another browser window.
)  But the entire idea of sweat being a great predictor of behavior is weak.
I taught my 6 year old brother how to push a so-called lie detector needle around to wherever he wanted it, and when I was briefly dating a Scientologist, I thoroughly unsettled her and her family by being able to move the meter needle from one peg of the meter to the other, back and forth, while having a nice pleasant conversation.
Which is to say, once you have played with one for a little bit, it's easy to fool, and even with a uC doing monitoring and analysis of your past stress history, a couple weeks of experimentation and you could easily false-negative it when you need to and go ahead and do that unwise trade.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29750111</id>
	<title>Thanks</title>
	<author>tylersoze</author>
	<datestamp>1255515300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thanks for the informative answers, that makes a little more sense to me now. It's amazing our economic system works at all. Of course, it also can fail spectacularly as we've all seen. I've never understood the people that think a bunch of unregulated greedy jackasses all trying to make a buck will somehow magically make a fair and sustainable society and economy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thanks for the informative answers , that makes a little more sense to me now .
It 's amazing our economic system works at all .
Of course , it also can fail spectacularly as we 've all seen .
I 've never understood the people that think a bunch of unregulated greedy jackasses all trying to make a buck will somehow magically make a fair and sustainable society and economy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thanks for the informative answers, that makes a little more sense to me now.
It's amazing our economic system works at all.
Of course, it also can fail spectacularly as we've all seen.
I've never understood the people that think a bunch of unregulated greedy jackasses all trying to make a buck will somehow magically make a fair and sustainable society and economy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29751535</id>
	<title>Re:Contribution to society?</title>
	<author>ceoyoyo</author>
	<datestamp>1255524600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sure.  Day traders lose money (on average), which is then distributed to people who aren't day traders.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure .
Day traders lose money ( on average ) , which is then distributed to people who are n't day traders .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure.
Day traders lose money (on average), which is then distributed to people who aren't day traders.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29750535</id>
	<title>im certain this</title>
	<author>nimbius</author>
	<datestamp>1255517700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>helps control automated selloff scripts triggered at certain levels just as much as it helps automated buy scripts.</htmltext>
<tokenext>helps control automated selloff scripts triggered at certain levels just as much as it helps automated buy scripts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>helps control automated selloff scripts triggered at certain levels just as much as it helps automated buy scripts.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29749343</id>
	<title>Re:That doesn't sound useful</title>
	<author>4D6963</author>
	<datestamp>1255511820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So maybe traders would be more rational if they had zero financial interest in the success of their trades, right? I mean if the decisions you make don't affect you more than the decisions you make when playing Windows' mine sweeper then you should stay cool headed, right? And surely as a result their performance would increase?

</p><p>I mean, having an interest in those things, that's as if you rewarded a doctor or a firefighter $10,000 for saving a life. That's easy to see why it's not a good idea.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So maybe traders would be more rational if they had zero financial interest in the success of their trades , right ?
I mean if the decisions you make do n't affect you more than the decisions you make when playing Windows ' mine sweeper then you should stay cool headed , right ?
And surely as a result their performance would increase ?
I mean , having an interest in those things , that 's as if you rewarded a doctor or a firefighter $ 10,000 for saving a life .
That 's easy to see why it 's not a good idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So maybe traders would be more rational if they had zero financial interest in the success of their trades, right?
I mean if the decisions you make don't affect you more than the decisions you make when playing Windows' mine sweeper then you should stay cool headed, right?
And surely as a result their performance would increase?
I mean, having an interest in those things, that's as if you rewarded a doctor or a firefighter $10,000 for saving a life.
That's easy to see why it's not a good idea.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29749493</id>
	<title>Master Yoda</title>
	<author>idontgno</author>
	<datestamp>1255512420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>sez "Much fear I sense in you. This trade I cannot allow you to execute."</p><p>I guess it's better than the Admiral Akbar model of trading.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>sez " Much fear I sense in you .
This trade I can not allow you to execute .
" I guess it 's better than the Admiral Akbar model of trading .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>sez "Much fear I sense in you.
This trade I cannot allow you to execute.
"I guess it's better than the Admiral Akbar model of trading.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29749575</id>
	<title>There is already a better device in existance</title>
	<author>tdp252</author>
	<datestamp>1255512900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Tradestation is an automated trading platform where you program in routines that monitor the market in some near-real-time fashion and they make the decisions on when to buy or sell for you.
<br> <br>
If you are an avid geek, up to learning a new programming language, and have some statistical analysis background, then this platform might be a good option.   The goal is that you program your routines during relaxed off  trading hours, back-test them against historical market data, and then once satisfied let them go to make all of the emotion-free decisions for you.
<br> <br>
 I personally don't know that I have the skill needed to protect my fortunes from what amounts to a complicated shell script but for others I'm sure it works fine, or at very least provides the allure of finding the "secret" algorithm to make millions.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Tradestation is an automated trading platform where you program in routines that monitor the market in some near-real-time fashion and they make the decisions on when to buy or sell for you .
If you are an avid geek , up to learning a new programming language , and have some statistical analysis background , then this platform might be a good option .
The goal is that you program your routines during relaxed off trading hours , back-test them against historical market data , and then once satisfied let them go to make all of the emotion-free decisions for you .
I personally do n't know that I have the skill needed to protect my fortunes from what amounts to a complicated shell script but for others I 'm sure it works fine , or at very least provides the allure of finding the " secret " algorithm to make millions .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tradestation is an automated trading platform where you program in routines that monitor the market in some near-real-time fashion and they make the decisions on when to buy or sell for you.
If you are an avid geek, up to learning a new programming language, and have some statistical analysis background, then this platform might be a good option.
The goal is that you program your routines during relaxed off  trading hours, back-test them against historical market data, and then once satisfied let them go to make all of the emotion-free decisions for you.
I personally don't know that I have the skill needed to protect my fortunes from what amounts to a complicated shell script but for others I'm sure it works fine, or at very least provides the allure of finding the "secret" algorithm to make millions.
:)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29750441</id>
	<title>Galvanic skin response?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255517100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They finally found the solution to the problem of mad traders: some form of electric chair!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They finally found the solution to the problem of mad traders : some form of electric chair !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They finally found the solution to the problem of mad traders: some form of electric chair!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29752905</id>
	<title>Internet Poker</title>
	<author>kidblast</author>
	<datestamp>1255535520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This would be great for internet poker!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This would be great for internet poker !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This would be great for internet poker!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29748869</id>
	<title>Very lie detector like...</title>
	<author>Zapotek</author>
	<datestamp>1255552740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...if you ask me.<br> <br>
I mean...isn't that the main function of a lie detector?..more or less...<br>
I wouldn't like to be wearing that thing on my wrist while talking to my boss or a customer...</htmltext>
<tokenext>...if you ask me .
I mean...is n't that the main function of a lie detector ? ..more or less.. . I would n't like to be wearing that thing on my wrist while talking to my boss or a customer.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...if you ask me.
I mean...isn't that the main function of a lie detector?..more or less...
I wouldn't like to be wearing that thing on my wrist while talking to my boss or a customer...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29758583</id>
	<title>But What About the Device?</title>
	<author>dcw3</author>
	<datestamp>1255626720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wonder if this thing could be adapted to drivers?  "Sorry, but you're too stressed to drive...initiating vehicle shutdown in 30 seconds"</p><p>Seriously though, I've read through all the +3 posts, and all I see is a bunch of arguing about the legitamacy of day trading.  Come on, this is supposed to be News for Nerds...is the device cool, or is it crap?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wonder if this thing could be adapted to drivers ?
" Sorry , but you 're too stressed to drive...initiating vehicle shutdown in 30 seconds " Seriously though , I 've read through all the + 3 posts , and all I see is a bunch of arguing about the legitamacy of day trading .
Come on , this is supposed to be News for Nerds...is the device cool , or is it crap ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wonder if this thing could be adapted to drivers?
"Sorry, but you're too stressed to drive...initiating vehicle shutdown in 30 seconds"Seriously though, I've read through all the +3 posts, and all I see is a bunch of arguing about the legitamacy of day trading.
Come on, this is supposed to be News for Nerds...is the device cool, or is it crap?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29754895</id>
	<title>definition of a day trader</title>
	<author>viralMeme</author>
	<datestamp>1255605660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A fool that bets his own money on the stock market<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..</htmltext>
<tokenext>A fool that bets his own money on the stock market . .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A fool that bets his own money on the stock market ..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29748859</id>
	<title>Does it come with black hair dye?</title>
	<author>entrice</author>
	<datestamp>1255552680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Users wear a device called the EmoBracelet that senses stress and makes an accompanying lighted bowl, or EmoBowl, change color and flicker from yellow to red as emotions become more intense."

Something makes me think this is being targetted towards a younger market.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Users wear a device called the EmoBracelet that senses stress and makes an accompanying lighted bowl , or EmoBowl , change color and flicker from yellow to red as emotions become more intense .
" Something makes me think this is being targetted towards a younger market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Users wear a device called the EmoBracelet that senses stress and makes an accompanying lighted bowl, or EmoBowl, change color and flicker from yellow to red as emotions become more intense.
"

Something makes me think this is being targetted towards a younger market.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29749099</id>
	<title>Re:Contribution to society?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255553820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Maybe someone can help me understand this differently, but I can't think of a more worthless contribution to society than a day trader.</p></div></blockquote><p>Not every occupation necessarily contributes to society.  Think of those who are employed, but do not do any productive work, or those who impede others trying to do productive work.</p><p>Assuming they pay taxes, day traders definitely contribute to society.  By this metric, they might even contribute more to society than low-income individuals who receive government benefits.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe someone can help me understand this differently , but I ca n't think of a more worthless contribution to society than a day trader.Not every occupation necessarily contributes to society .
Think of those who are employed , but do not do any productive work , or those who impede others trying to do productive work.Assuming they pay taxes , day traders definitely contribute to society .
By this metric , they might even contribute more to society than low-income individuals who receive government benefits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe someone can help me understand this differently, but I can't think of a more worthless contribution to society than a day trader.Not every occupation necessarily contributes to society.
Think of those who are employed, but do not do any productive work, or those who impede others trying to do productive work.Assuming they pay taxes, day traders definitely contribute to society.
By this metric, they might even contribute more to society than low-income individuals who receive government benefits.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29748703</id>
	<title>galvanic skin response = wheatstone bridge</title>
	<author>smellsofbikes</author>
	<datestamp>1255552140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dunno why they'd have to invent something to do this: it's been known for almost 200 years.  Build a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheatstone\_bridge" title="wikipedia.org">Wheatstone Bridge</a> [wikipedia.org] with your body as one of the four legs of the bridge, and measure across the middle. I was building these when I was 10.  Add a transistor to drive a meter and you have most of a Scientologist's E-meter.  Use this as the input to an analog input channel of an Arduino and interface it via RS232 or USB to your computer and you can easily write something to automatically log you out of e-trade or whatever.  I'm not really sure where the innovation is here, although Philips usually comes up with great ideas.  I guess you could use a sparkfun xbee unit to make it wireless, since anything that contains the word "wireless" seems to be patentable these days, but that just makes me even more irritated.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dunno why they 'd have to invent something to do this : it 's been known for almost 200 years .
Build a Wheatstone Bridge [ wikipedia.org ] with your body as one of the four legs of the bridge , and measure across the middle .
I was building these when I was 10 .
Add a transistor to drive a meter and you have most of a Scientologist 's E-meter .
Use this as the input to an analog input channel of an Arduino and interface it via RS232 or USB to your computer and you can easily write something to automatically log you out of e-trade or whatever .
I 'm not really sure where the innovation is here , although Philips usually comes up with great ideas .
I guess you could use a sparkfun xbee unit to make it wireless , since anything that contains the word " wireless " seems to be patentable these days , but that just makes me even more irritated .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dunno why they'd have to invent something to do this: it's been known for almost 200 years.
Build a Wheatstone Bridge [wikipedia.org] with your body as one of the four legs of the bridge, and measure across the middle.
I was building these when I was 10.
Add a transistor to drive a meter and you have most of a Scientologist's E-meter.
Use this as the input to an analog input channel of an Arduino and interface it via RS232 or USB to your computer and you can easily write something to automatically log you out of e-trade or whatever.
I'm not really sure where the innovation is here, although Philips usually comes up with great ideas.
I guess you could use a sparkfun xbee unit to make it wireless, since anything that contains the word "wireless" seems to be patentable these days, but that just makes me even more irritated.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29749109</id>
	<title>Another gimmick</title>
	<author>norletsk</author>
	<datestamp>1255553880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yet another gimmicky use of galvanic skin response. You might as well be required to undergo Scientology auditing before trading stocks, since the E-meter measures the exact same thing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yet another gimmicky use of galvanic skin response .
You might as well be required to undergo Scientology auditing before trading stocks , since the E-meter measures the exact same thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yet another gimmicky use of galvanic skin response.
You might as well be required to undergo Scientology auditing before trading stocks, since the E-meter measures the exact same thing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29752721</id>
	<title>Hmmmmmm...</title>
	<author>planetoid</author>
	<datestamp>1255533900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wonder if it would be allowed to use this in a chess tournament.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if it would be allowed to use this in a chess tournament .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if it would be allowed to use this in a chess tournament.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29749953</id>
	<title>Timing</title>
	<author>Adrian Lopez</author>
	<datestamp>1255514580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>By the time the situation has escalated to such a degree that you're becoming emotional, isn't it already too late to fix the problem?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>By the time the situation has escalated to such a degree that you 're becoming emotional , is n't it already too late to fix the problem ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By the time the situation has escalated to such a degree that you're becoming emotional, isn't it already too late to fix the problem?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29762813</id>
	<title>Day trading is for mugs</title>
	<author>Goonie</author>
	<datestamp>1255602420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Day trading is pretty much like gambling at the casino.</p><p>Over the course of time in which a day trader trades, the gyrations of the overall market, and individual stocks, is essentially noise, and overwhelms the long-term historical trend of stocks to go up in value (and, frankly, you need to have decades-long horizons to be sure that that trend will overwhelm the noise).</p><p>And every time you make a trade, your broker takes a trading commission.</p><p>You're left with a negative-expectation gambling game.</p><p>I know, I know, you've got a brilliant strategy which means you'll outperform the market, transforming the game into a positive-expectation one.  Might I suggest that a) you might have just gotten lucky, and b) sooner or later enough traders will figure out your winning strategy, copy it, and you're back to square one.</p><p>As for the device, it's crap.  Galvanic skin response is ancient technology, and, as others have noted, short-term traders are <em>always</em> stressed, so they'll be setting off the meter, oh, 95\% of their "working" day.</p><p>If you're into day trading, get a job at a merchant bank or a brokerage firm.  At least that way you get to gamble with other people's money, not your own.  You'll still underperform the market (it's the dirty little secret of managed investment funds, they almost always do), but it's not your problem any more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Day trading is pretty much like gambling at the casino.Over the course of time in which a day trader trades , the gyrations of the overall market , and individual stocks , is essentially noise , and overwhelms the long-term historical trend of stocks to go up in value ( and , frankly , you need to have decades-long horizons to be sure that that trend will overwhelm the noise ) .And every time you make a trade , your broker takes a trading commission.You 're left with a negative-expectation gambling game.I know , I know , you 've got a brilliant strategy which means you 'll outperform the market , transforming the game into a positive-expectation one .
Might I suggest that a ) you might have just gotten lucky , and b ) sooner or later enough traders will figure out your winning strategy , copy it , and you 're back to square one.As for the device , it 's crap .
Galvanic skin response is ancient technology , and , as others have noted , short-term traders are always stressed , so they 'll be setting off the meter , oh , 95 \ % of their " working " day.If you 're into day trading , get a job at a merchant bank or a brokerage firm .
At least that way you get to gamble with other people 's money , not your own .
You 'll still underperform the market ( it 's the dirty little secret of managed investment funds , they almost always do ) , but it 's not your problem any more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Day trading is pretty much like gambling at the casino.Over the course of time in which a day trader trades, the gyrations of the overall market, and individual stocks, is essentially noise, and overwhelms the long-term historical trend of stocks to go up in value (and, frankly, you need to have decades-long horizons to be sure that that trend will overwhelm the noise).And every time you make a trade, your broker takes a trading commission.You're left with a negative-expectation gambling game.I know, I know, you've got a brilliant strategy which means you'll outperform the market, transforming the game into a positive-expectation one.
Might I suggest that a) you might have just gotten lucky, and b) sooner or later enough traders will figure out your winning strategy, copy it, and you're back to square one.As for the device, it's crap.
Galvanic skin response is ancient technology, and, as others have noted, short-term traders are always stressed, so they'll be setting off the meter, oh, 95\% of their "working" day.If you're into day trading, get a job at a merchant bank or a brokerage firm.
At least that way you get to gamble with other people's money, not your own.
You'll still underperform the market (it's the dirty little secret of managed investment funds, they almost always do), but it's not your problem any more.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29748725</id>
	<title>Another market</title>
	<author>vekrander</author>
	<datestamp>1255552200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>This sounds like it could be equally as useful to an online poker player (I know many).  All it would take is some marketing to the poker community.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This sounds like it could be equally as useful to an online poker player ( I know many ) .
All it would take is some marketing to the poker community .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This sounds like it could be equally as useful to an online poker player (I know many).
All it would take is some marketing to the poker community.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29749261</id>
	<title>Scientologist use the same device</title>
	<author>strangeattraction</author>
	<datestamp>1255511400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't Scientologist measure galvanic skin response to help you get "Cleared"? Maybe traders are some new type of Thetans.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't Scientologist measure galvanic skin response to help you get " Cleared " ?
Maybe traders are some new type of Thetans .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't Scientologist measure galvanic skin response to help you get "Cleared"?
Maybe traders are some new type of Thetans.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29749779</id>
	<title>Data</title>
	<author>Bensam123</author>
	<datestamp>1255513800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I dunno about the implied use for the device, but I could see this as a very interesting device to measure mob responses. Put these on quite a few people who are trading and compare them to the flows in the market. I wonder what sort of correlations would pop up.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I dunno about the implied use for the device , but I could see this as a very interesting device to measure mob responses .
Put these on quite a few people who are trading and compare them to the flows in the market .
I wonder what sort of correlations would pop up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I dunno about the implied use for the device, but I could see this as a very interesting device to measure mob responses.
Put these on quite a few people who are trading and compare them to the flows in the market.
I wonder what sort of correlations would pop up.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29748969</id>
	<title>the OFF switch</title>
	<author>tverbeek</author>
	<datestamp>1255553220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So someone has invented an OFF switch for their computers?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So someone has invented an OFF switch for their computers ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So someone has invented an OFF switch for their computers?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29749037</id>
	<title>They keep day trading bokers employed!</title>
	<author>TiggertheMad</author>
	<datestamp>1255553460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually, while they are not producing any goods in the traditional sense, they increase the liquidy of the market. The more more liquid it is the better is is for pretty much anyone, or so economists say. So they do produce a useful service of sorts.
<br> <br>
But yeah, I see your point, they do seem like pointless generally parasites that just try to make money off the inherent noise in the system. Personally, I think that it sounds like a really risky form of investing with a fairly low payout for the amount of time, effort, and risk involved. But each to his own, and a fool and his money...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , while they are not producing any goods in the traditional sense , they increase the liquidy of the market .
The more more liquid it is the better is is for pretty much anyone , or so economists say .
So they do produce a useful service of sorts .
But yeah , I see your point , they do seem like pointless generally parasites that just try to make money off the inherent noise in the system .
Personally , I think that it sounds like a really risky form of investing with a fairly low payout for the amount of time , effort , and risk involved .
But each to his own , and a fool and his money.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, while they are not producing any goods in the traditional sense, they increase the liquidy of the market.
The more more liquid it is the better is is for pretty much anyone, or so economists say.
So they do produce a useful service of sorts.
But yeah, I see your point, they do seem like pointless generally parasites that just try to make money off the inherent noise in the system.
Personally, I think that it sounds like a really risky form of investing with a fairly low payout for the amount of time, effort, and risk involved.
But each to his own, and a fool and his money...</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29748885</id>
	<title>Why stop with day traders?</title>
	<author>ewg</author>
	<datestamp>1255552800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why stop with day traders? Wouldn't it be fascinating to know the measured stress profile of a given workplace before accepting their job offer?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why stop with day traders ?
Would n't it be fascinating to know the measured stress profile of a given workplace before accepting their job offer ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why stop with day traders?
Wouldn't it be fascinating to know the measured stress profile of a given workplace before accepting their job offer?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29749161</id>
	<title>What's next...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255510920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... a device to keep me from getting too drunk while playing blackjack?</p><p>Alternating between euphoric mania and dark sullen rage is the whole point of day trading. If you're sitting there clicking buttons like a robot, you're totally missing out on the fun part.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... a device to keep me from getting too drunk while playing blackjack ? Alternating between euphoric mania and dark sullen rage is the whole point of day trading .
If you 're sitting there clicking buttons like a robot , you 're totally missing out on the fun part .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... a device to keep me from getting too drunk while playing blackjack?Alternating between euphoric mania and dark sullen rage is the whole point of day trading.
If you're sitting there clicking buttons like a robot, you're totally missing out on the fun part.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29752349</id>
	<title>day traders != fast computers?</title>
	<author>hitmark</author>
	<datestamp>1255530480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i thought this stuff was handled by very fast computers looking for very small movements in very large data sets these days...</p><p>like say whats described here: <a href="http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/07/-it-sounds-like-something.ars" title="arstechnica.com">http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/07/-it-sounds-like-something.ars</a> [arstechnica.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i thought this stuff was handled by very fast computers looking for very small movements in very large data sets these days...like say whats described here : http : //arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/07/-it-sounds-like-something.ars [ arstechnica.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i thought this stuff was handled by very fast computers looking for very small movements in very large data sets these days...like say whats described here: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/07/-it-sounds-like-something.ars [arstechnica.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29748579</id>
	<title>This is a great change</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255551660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Now all day traders will be making rational, informed decisions instead.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now all day traders will be making rational , informed decisions instead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now all day traders will be making rational, informed decisions instead.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29749431</id>
	<title>Goddamn heap of shit!!!!</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1255512120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sell! Fucking idiot machine. I'm not stressed, I just have a fucking cold. Oh look the stock is tanking. I was right. Better get out quick. Sell! What do you mean I'm stressed?! I'm not fucking stressed. It's time to get out. Sell! Sell! Sell! Fuck now it's REALLY tanking. Okay now I'm getting stressed for real. Stock is hitting the floor and this is going to wipe me out. Sell now you fucking piece of shit machine! Sell!!!!!! Ah fuck, I'm about to lose my shirt here! Sell!!!!! Anyone want to buy a fucking useless money losing piece of shit machine???</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sell !
Fucking idiot machine .
I 'm not stressed , I just have a fucking cold .
Oh look the stock is tanking .
I was right .
Better get out quick .
Sell ! What do you mean I 'm stressed ? !
I 'm not fucking stressed .
It 's time to get out .
Sell ! Sell !
Sell ! Fuck now it 's REALLY tanking .
Okay now I 'm getting stressed for real .
Stock is hitting the floor and this is going to wipe me out .
Sell now you fucking piece of shit machine !
Sell ! ! ! ! ! ! Ah fuck , I 'm about to lose my shirt here !
Sell ! ! ! ! ! Anyone want to buy a fucking useless money losing piece of shit machine ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sell!
Fucking idiot machine.
I'm not stressed, I just have a fucking cold.
Oh look the stock is tanking.
I was right.
Better get out quick.
Sell! What do you mean I'm stressed?!
I'm not fucking stressed.
It's time to get out.
Sell! Sell!
Sell! Fuck now it's REALLY tanking.
Okay now I'm getting stressed for real.
Stock is hitting the floor and this is going to wipe me out.
Sell now you fucking piece of shit machine!
Sell!!!!!! Ah fuck, I'm about to lose my shirt here!
Sell!!!!! Anyone want to buy a fucking useless money losing piece of shit machine??
?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29749395</id>
	<title>Re:Contribution to society?</title>
	<author>Xugumad</author>
	<datestamp>1255512000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Day traders keep things moving, so if you want to buy/sell a share, you can generally find a day trader to do it against. If you wait for another investor, you could be waiting a while.</p><p>If you don't like it, get investors to care more about the exact price they trade at, and squeeze the traders out of the market.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Day traders keep things moving , so if you want to buy/sell a share , you can generally find a day trader to do it against .
If you wait for another investor , you could be waiting a while.If you do n't like it , get investors to care more about the exact price they trade at , and squeeze the traders out of the market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Day traders keep things moving, so if you want to buy/sell a share, you can generally find a day trader to do it against.
If you wait for another investor, you could be waiting a while.If you don't like it, get investors to care more about the exact price they trade at, and squeeze the traders out of the market.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29749237</id>
	<title>What's the mass psychology of "The Steet?"</title>
	<author>dbdweeb</author>
	<datestamp>1255511340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Any more, investing is more about sensing the collective mood of Wall Street than it is about evaluating the viability of an enterprise. If those mood sensing devices were networked and one could hack into them to judge the mass psychology of the street it would be a very powerful investment device.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Any more , investing is more about sensing the collective mood of Wall Street than it is about evaluating the viability of an enterprise .
If those mood sensing devices were networked and one could hack into them to judge the mass psychology of the street it would be a very powerful investment device .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Any more, investing is more about sensing the collective mood of Wall Street than it is about evaluating the viability of an enterprise.
If those mood sensing devices were networked and one could hack into them to judge the mass psychology of the street it would be a very powerful investment device.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29751033</id>
	<title>Mood Rings</title>
	<author>joebok</author>
	<datestamp>1255520820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought the apex of this sort of technology was the mood ring.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought the apex of this sort of technology was the mood ring .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought the apex of this sort of technology was the mood ring.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29758963</id>
	<title>I have the opposite</title>
	<author>ILuvRamen</author>
	<datestamp>1255628460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>yeah I'm actually developing the opposite.  It's a device that detects when a company switches from Redhat to Microsoft servers and automatically dumps their stocks<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-P</htmltext>
<tokenext>yeah I 'm actually developing the opposite .
It 's a device that detects when a company switches from Redhat to Microsoft servers and automatically dumps their stocks : -P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yeah I'm actually developing the opposite.
It's a device that detects when a company switches from Redhat to Microsoft servers and automatically dumps their stocks :-P</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29749049</id>
	<title>Re:Contribution to society?</title>
	<author>vekrander</author>
	<datestamp>1255553520000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>It's legal and you can make money doing it.  There are scammers, grifters, schemers, and thieves out there too, so I would say day traders have more worth than that.  Day trading is just another way to support yourself or your family by using your talents.  Casinos do pretty much the same thing except they lower your odds in exchange for entertainment and booze. At least with day trading, you contribute to a real economy.  Heck, even WoW probably has people that daytrade within that economy and then sell their in game profit for real money.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's legal and you can make money doing it .
There are scammers , grifters , schemers , and thieves out there too , so I would say day traders have more worth than that .
Day trading is just another way to support yourself or your family by using your talents .
Casinos do pretty much the same thing except they lower your odds in exchange for entertainment and booze .
At least with day trading , you contribute to a real economy .
Heck , even WoW probably has people that daytrade within that economy and then sell their in game profit for real money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's legal and you can make money doing it.
There are scammers, grifters, schemers, and thieves out there too, so I would say day traders have more worth than that.
Day trading is just another way to support yourself or your family by using your talents.
Casinos do pretty much the same thing except they lower your odds in exchange for entertainment and booze.
At least with day trading, you contribute to a real economy.
Heck, even WoW probably has people that daytrade within that economy and then sell their in game profit for real money.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_1532259.29748775</id>
	<title>Contribution to society?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255552320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe someone can help me understand this differently, but I can't think of a more worthless contribution to society than a day trader. Are they contributing anything whatsoever to society by their actions? Just shifting money back and forth trying to make a profit? Hell someone playing WoW all day is less worthless. Can someone tell me what purpose they serve? How about giving the money to the people that actually create things or provide services?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe someone can help me understand this differently , but I ca n't think of a more worthless contribution to society than a day trader .
Are they contributing anything whatsoever to society by their actions ?
Just shifting money back and forth trying to make a profit ?
Hell someone playing WoW all day is less worthless .
Can someone tell me what purpose they serve ?
How about giving the money to the people that actually create things or provide services ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe someone can help me understand this differently, but I can't think of a more worthless contribution to society than a day trader.
Are they contributing anything whatsoever to society by their actions?
Just shifting money back and forth trying to make a profit?
Hell someone playing WoW all day is less worthless.
Can someone tell me what purpose they serve?
How about giving the money to the people that actually create things or provide services?</sentencetext>
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