<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_13_148217</id>
	<title>FBI Bringing Biometric Photo Scanning To North Carolina, Via DMV</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1255447020000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>AHuxley writes <i>"The FBI is getting fast new systems to look at local North Carolina license photos via the DMV. As the FBI is not authorized to collect and store the photos, <a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iCDKSGZjGw3GMFUml4LQLlWzNOuQD9B9O5B80">they use the North Carolina Division of Motor Vehicles</a>. The system takes seconds to look at chin widths and nose sizes. The expanded technology used on millions of motorist could be rolled out across the USA. The FBI's Integrated Automated Fingerprint Identification System is also getting an upgrade to <a href="http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=E7DD109B-1A64-67EA-E4D0CD2824087487">DNA records, 3-D facial imaging, palm prints and voice scans</a>."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>AHuxley writes " The FBI is getting fast new systems to look at local North Carolina license photos via the DMV .
As the FBI is not authorized to collect and store the photos , they use the North Carolina Division of Motor Vehicles .
The system takes seconds to look at chin widths and nose sizes .
The expanded technology used on millions of motorist could be rolled out across the USA .
The FBI 's Integrated Automated Fingerprint Identification System is also getting an upgrade to DNA records , 3-D facial imaging , palm prints and voice scans .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AHuxley writes "The FBI is getting fast new systems to look at local North Carolina license photos via the DMV.
As the FBI is not authorized to collect and store the photos, they use the North Carolina Division of Motor Vehicles.
The system takes seconds to look at chin widths and nose sizes.
The expanded technology used on millions of motorist could be rolled out across the USA.
The FBI's Integrated Automated Fingerprint Identification System is also getting an upgrade to DNA records, 3-D facial imaging, palm prints and voice scans.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29732943</id>
	<title>nose sizes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255453620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt;nose sizes<br>so we can finally identify all the jews at record speeds?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; nose sizesso we can finally identify all the jews at record speeds ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt;nose sizesso we can finally identify all the jews at record speeds?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29737605</id>
	<title>Alberta Canada does the same thing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255430040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This isn't new, since around 2003 this has been going on. In Canada where I'm living the province of Alberta has a FR System as well. I know that they have had a number of convictions as they been publicized on the daily news.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is n't new , since around 2003 this has been going on .
In Canada where I 'm living the province of Alberta has a FR System as well .
I know that they have had a number of convictions as they been publicized on the daily news .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This isn't new, since around 2003 this has been going on.
In Canada where I'm living the province of Alberta has a FR System as well.
I know that they have had a number of convictions as they been publicized on the daily news.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29733505</id>
	<title>The FBI is not allowed to collect and store</title>
	<author>edrobinson</author>
	<datestamp>1255456380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>our pictures. This is a bit of a scam as they, in essence, are storing them with this latest invasion.</htmltext>
<tokenext>our pictures .
This is a bit of a scam as they , in essence , are storing them with this latest invasion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>our pictures.
This is a bit of a scam as they, in essence, are storing them with this latest invasion.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29735945</id>
	<title>Perfect example...</title>
	<author>Anachragnome</author>
	<datestamp>1255467060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>" As the FBI is not authorized to collect and store the photos, they use the North Carolina Division of Motor Vehicles. "</p><p>Perfect example of a government entity CIRCUMVENTING checks and balances installed for a REASON.</p><p>Maybe this reason needs to be reiterated in such terms that the fucking FBI can understand it...then close the loophole that allows this circumvention.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" As the FBI is not authorized to collect and store the photos , they use the North Carolina Division of Motor Vehicles .
" Perfect example of a government entity CIRCUMVENTING checks and balances installed for a REASON.Maybe this reason needs to be reiterated in such terms that the fucking FBI can understand it...then close the loophole that allows this circumvention .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>" As the FBI is not authorized to collect and store the photos, they use the North Carolina Division of Motor Vehicles.
"Perfect example of a government entity CIRCUMVENTING checks and balances installed for a REASON.Maybe this reason needs to be reiterated in such terms that the fucking FBI can understand it...then close the loophole that allows this circumvention.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29739237</id>
	<title>I wonder</title>
	<author>BCW2</author>
	<datestamp>1255438500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If having a Birthday in Nov. (when the pic is taken) when I have my winter beard screws up their calculations?<br>NC resident.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If having a Birthday in Nov. ( when the pic is taken ) when I have my winter beard screws up their calculations ? NC resident .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If having a Birthday in Nov. (when the pic is taken) when I have my winter beard screws up their calculations?NC resident.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29732821</id>
	<title>Re:I wish my state was like New Hampshire....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255453080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Having a huge gold star on the clothes of all criminals would also be useful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Having a huge gold star on the clothes of all criminals would also be useful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Having a huge gold star on the clothes of all criminals would also be useful.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29732763</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29733209</id>
	<title>disturbing...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255454940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>All this information collection as of late is getting a bit disturbing. I work for a bank and I had managed to go 28 years without being fingerprinted, until this year. I have nothing to hide nor fear but I definately do not like having my biometric information floating around out there. I could care less about my social security number and all that, its just inforamtion that can not be directly tied to me. However as a law abiding citizen I take issue with ALL of my information being documented. Part of the patriot act required that every employee working for a bank get finger printed, background checked, photographed, etc. Thanks GWB Lets just make it easier for somebody to steal identities. Seems like the cold war all over again except this time its the government ploting a war against its own citizens.</htmltext>
<tokenext>All this information collection as of late is getting a bit disturbing .
I work for a bank and I had managed to go 28 years without being fingerprinted , until this year .
I have nothing to hide nor fear but I definately do not like having my biometric information floating around out there .
I could care less about my social security number and all that , its just inforamtion that can not be directly tied to me .
However as a law abiding citizen I take issue with ALL of my information being documented .
Part of the patriot act required that every employee working for a bank get finger printed , background checked , photographed , etc .
Thanks GWB Lets just make it easier for somebody to steal identities .
Seems like the cold war all over again except this time its the government ploting a war against its own citizens .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All this information collection as of late is getting a bit disturbing.
I work for a bank and I had managed to go 28 years without being fingerprinted, until this year.
I have nothing to hide nor fear but I definately do not like having my biometric information floating around out there.
I could care less about my social security number and all that, its just inforamtion that can not be directly tied to me.
However as a law abiding citizen I take issue with ALL of my information being documented.
Part of the patriot act required that every employee working for a bank get finger printed, background checked, photographed, etc.
Thanks GWB Lets just make it easier for somebody to steal identities.
Seems like the cold war all over again except this time its the government ploting a war against its own citizens.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29738855</id>
	<title>Just Put Your Tongue Between Your Teeth</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255435800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then slide your lower teeth forward and tilt your head back slightly.  That'll increase the size of your jaw relative to the width of your eyes enough to fuck with the system.</p><p>Plus you'll get a really bizarre-looking driver's license photo, and who doesn't want that!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then slide your lower teeth forward and tilt your head back slightly .
That 'll increase the size of your jaw relative to the width of your eyes enough to fuck with the system.Plus you 'll get a really bizarre-looking driver 's license photo , and who does n't want that !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then slide your lower teeth forward and tilt your head back slightly.
That'll increase the size of your jaw relative to the width of your eyes enough to fuck with the system.Plus you'll get a really bizarre-looking driver's license photo, and who doesn't want that!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29734499</id>
	<title>Re:I wish my state was like New Hampshire....</title>
	<author>eleuthero</author>
	<datestamp>1255460460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Supreme Court would have to do so in the end. How can an OK law be effectively prosecuted against a resident of Texas? If I go there on vacation, there is not a huge sign telling me that I have to have a driver's license or other ID with me at all times or I am guilty of law-breaking. Common sense would demand one if I were driving, but if I am stepping off a bus (which still does not require an ID for boarding), then I fail to see how another state could blast me for coming from a state that does not have a similar requirement. This is where federal oversight is actually a good thing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Supreme Court would have to do so in the end .
How can an OK law be effectively prosecuted against a resident of Texas ?
If I go there on vacation , there is not a huge sign telling me that I have to have a driver 's license or other ID with me at all times or I am guilty of law-breaking .
Common sense would demand one if I were driving , but if I am stepping off a bus ( which still does not require an ID for boarding ) , then I fail to see how another state could blast me for coming from a state that does not have a similar requirement .
This is where federal oversight is actually a good thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Supreme Court would have to do so in the end.
How can an OK law be effectively prosecuted against a resident of Texas?
If I go there on vacation, there is not a huge sign telling me that I have to have a driver's license or other ID with me at all times or I am guilty of law-breaking.
Common sense would demand one if I were driving, but if I am stepping off a bus (which still does not require an ID for boarding), then I fail to see how another state could blast me for coming from a state that does not have a similar requirement.
This is where federal oversight is actually a good thing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29733339</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29738911</id>
	<title>Re:I wish my state was like New Hampshire....</title>
	<author>Jah-Wren Ryel</author>
	<datestamp>1255436220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Carrying a license is obviously required when engaged in the relevant activity (driving, hunting, selling alcohol, etc.)</p></div><p>That is a common misconception too.  Owning such a license is required, but in most states (probably all of them) there is no law that requires you to carry your drivers license when actually driving.  It makes life harder if you get detained, but it is not a crime.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Carrying a license is obviously required when engaged in the relevant activity ( driving , hunting , selling alcohol , etc .
) That is a common misconception too .
Owning such a license is required , but in most states ( probably all of them ) there is no law that requires you to carry your drivers license when actually driving .
It makes life harder if you get detained , but it is not a crime .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Carrying a license is obviously required when engaged in the relevant activity (driving, hunting, selling alcohol, etc.
)That is a common misconception too.
Owning such a license is required, but in most states (probably all of them) there is no law that requires you to carry your drivers license when actually driving.
It makes life harder if you get detained, but it is not a crime.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29732571</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29732939</id>
	<title>Wanted By The F.B.I :</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255453620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you see this person, do not approach.</p><p>Call this  phone number: <a href="http://current.cf.huffingtonpost.com/" title="huffingtonpost.com" rel="nofollow">1-800-CAL-LFBI</a> [huffingtonpost.com]<br>and report your information.</p><p>Yours In Minsk,<br>Kilgore Trout</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you see this person , do not approach.Call this phone number : 1-800-CAL-LFBI [ huffingtonpost.com ] and report your information.Yours In Minsk,Kilgore Trout</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you see this person, do not approach.Call this  phone number: 1-800-CAL-LFBI [huffingtonpost.com]and report your information.Yours In Minsk,Kilgore Trout</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29732571</id>
	<title>Re:I wish my state was like New Hampshire....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255451940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is a common misconception, but you're only required to identify yourself if asked.  Carrying a license is obviously required when engaged in the relevant activity (driving, hunting, selling alcohol, etc.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a common misconception , but you 're only required to identify yourself if asked .
Carrying a license is obviously required when engaged in the relevant activity ( driving , hunting , selling alcohol , etc .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a common misconception, but you're only required to identify yourself if asked.
Carrying a license is obviously required when engaged in the relevant activity (driving, hunting, selling alcohol, etc.
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29732461</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29733339</id>
	<title>Re:I wish my state was like New Hampshire....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255455480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The U.S. Supreme Court over-turned those laws as illegal searches.  You're required to provide basic information like your name, address, but not required to show a photo ID.  You need not carry anything on your body.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The U.S. Supreme Court over-turned those laws as illegal searches .
You 're required to provide basic information like your name , address , but not required to show a photo ID .
You need not carry anything on your body .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The U.S. Supreme Court over-turned those laws as illegal searches.
You're required to provide basic information like your name, address, but not required to show a photo ID.
You need not carry anything on your body.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29732713</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29736105</id>
	<title>Re:I wish my state was like New Hampshire....</title>
	<author>Gilmoure</author>
	<datestamp>1255424400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wooooo! Naked Connecticut hiking this winter!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wooooo !
Naked Connecticut hiking this winter !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wooooo!
Naked Connecticut hiking this winter!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29733339</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29733161</id>
	<title>Such a piece of shit state...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255454700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The state of North Carolina is such a piece of shit.     I know, because I spent 12 years of my adult life there.  I'm not surprised that they're in bed with the FBI and trampling all over people's rights and freedom with shit like this.</p><p>This is the same state that penalizes you $50 if you accidentally let your auto insurance lapse for a DAY.</p><p>Fuck you, North Carolina.   Fuck you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The state of North Carolina is such a piece of shit .
I know , because I spent 12 years of my adult life there .
I 'm not surprised that they 're in bed with the FBI and trampling all over people 's rights and freedom with shit like this.This is the same state that penalizes you $ 50 if you accidentally let your auto insurance lapse for a DAY.Fuck you , North Carolina .
Fuck you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The state of North Carolina is such a piece of shit.
I know, because I spent 12 years of my adult life there.
I'm not surprised that they're in bed with the FBI and trampling all over people's rights and freedom with shit like this.This is the same state that penalizes you $50 if you accidentally let your auto insurance lapse for a DAY.Fuck you, North Carolina.
Fuck you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29740929</id>
	<title>Re:I wish my state was like New Hampshire....</title>
	<author>rantingkitten</author>
	<datestamp>1255453020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm not sure that's true.  Governments just love to make you present paperwork and documentation, then completely ignore it and look it up on their computers anyway.  However they will not look it up on the computer if you don't have the paperwork first.  If the paperwork says something in your favor but the computer says something against you, they will believe the computer.  If, however, the computer supports you, but something is amiss with the paperwork, they'll tell you that the paperwork is invalid. <br>
<br>
That's the government mindset.<br>
<br>



With driver's licenses, it is no different.  If I give my name and DOB to a cop that's usually enough for him to go back to his car, check the computer, see the photo ID on record, and verify that yes, that really is me.  But if I don't actually have my license on me when this happens, he'll ticket me.  Whether or not anything happens after that is up to the judge -- a scarce few will just say "Yeah, remember to carry your license next time, now get outta here," but most will throw the book at you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not sure that 's true .
Governments just love to make you present paperwork and documentation , then completely ignore it and look it up on their computers anyway .
However they will not look it up on the computer if you do n't have the paperwork first .
If the paperwork says something in your favor but the computer says something against you , they will believe the computer .
If , however , the computer supports you , but something is amiss with the paperwork , they 'll tell you that the paperwork is invalid .
That 's the government mindset .
With driver 's licenses , it is no different .
If I give my name and DOB to a cop that 's usually enough for him to go back to his car , check the computer , see the photo ID on record , and verify that yes , that really is me .
But if I do n't actually have my license on me when this happens , he 'll ticket me .
Whether or not anything happens after that is up to the judge -- a scarce few will just say " Yeah , remember to carry your license next time , now get outta here , " but most will throw the book at you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not sure that's true.
Governments just love to make you present paperwork and documentation, then completely ignore it and look it up on their computers anyway.
However they will not look it up on the computer if you don't have the paperwork first.
If the paperwork says something in your favor but the computer says something against you, they will believe the computer.
If, however, the computer supports you, but something is amiss with the paperwork, they'll tell you that the paperwork is invalid.
That's the government mindset.
With driver's licenses, it is no different.
If I give my name and DOB to a cop that's usually enough for him to go back to his car, check the computer, see the photo ID on record, and verify that yes, that really is me.
But if I don't actually have my license on me when this happens, he'll ticket me.
Whether or not anything happens after that is up to the judge -- a scarce few will just say "Yeah, remember to carry your license next time, now get outta here," but most will throw the book at you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29738911</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29738619</id>
	<title>Not "Could Be"</title>
	<author>DynaSoar</author>
	<datestamp>1255434540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"The expanded technology used on millions of motorist could be rolled out across the USA."</p><p>But rather "will be". Some states are already requiring that people do not smile for their driver's license photos. They're constraining what the (still fairly crippled; see section 4.2 at <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial\_recognition\_system" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial\_recognition\_system</a> [wikipedia.org] ) software has to contend with. Smiles, and the mouth in general, is far more mobile than most other facial components.</p><p>It's going to happen and it's going to happen badly. But just like polygraphs and torture, it's not that they work but rather the threat of them work. So they say.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" The expanded technology used on millions of motorist could be rolled out across the USA .
" But rather " will be " .
Some states are already requiring that people do not smile for their driver 's license photos .
They 're constraining what the ( still fairly crippled ; see section 4.2 at http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial \ _recognition \ _system [ wikipedia.org ] ) software has to contend with .
Smiles , and the mouth in general , is far more mobile than most other facial components.It 's going to happen and it 's going to happen badly .
But just like polygraphs and torture , it 's not that they work but rather the threat of them work .
So they say .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The expanded technology used on millions of motorist could be rolled out across the USA.
"But rather "will be".
Some states are already requiring that people do not smile for their driver's license photos.
They're constraining what the (still fairly crippled; see section 4.2 at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial\_recognition\_system [wikipedia.org] ) software has to contend with.
Smiles, and the mouth in general, is far more mobile than most other facial components.It's going to happen and it's going to happen badly.
But just like polygraphs and torture, it's not that they work but rather the threat of them work.
So they say.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29738387</id>
	<title>Re:I wish my state was like New Hampshire....</title>
	<author>z4ns4stu</author>
	<datestamp>1255433280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I stand corrected.

My belief that Connecticut had such a requirement came from a friend's father getting a ticket for not having proof of ID when we was stopped for carrying an open beer in a public area.  Must have been a mitigating circumstance (the consumption of alcohol).</htmltext>
<tokenext>I stand corrected .
My belief that Connecticut had such a requirement came from a friend 's father getting a ticket for not having proof of ID when we was stopped for carrying an open beer in a public area .
Must have been a mitigating circumstance ( the consumption of alcohol ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I stand corrected.
My belief that Connecticut had such a requirement came from a friend's father getting a ticket for not having proof of ID when we was stopped for carrying an open beer in a public area.
Must have been a mitigating circumstance (the consumption of alcohol).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29736799</id>
	<title>Shock G's alter ego</title>
	<author>X86Daddy</author>
	<datestamp>1255427280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Shock G's alter ego Humpty will never get caught by this system.  Perhaps we all need to adopt <a href="http://images.google.com/images?safe=active&amp;q=groucho+glasses" title="google.com">these</a> [google.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Shock G 's alter ego Humpty will never get caught by this system .
Perhaps we all need to adopt these [ google.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Shock G's alter ego Humpty will never get caught by this system.
Perhaps we all need to adopt these [google.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29738363</id>
	<title>Another way of saying this...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255433220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>So you're saying you were fine with all the private information gathering by the police and government and corporations until <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First\_they\_came..." title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">they came for you?</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>So you 're saying you were fine with all the private information gathering by the police and government and corporations until they came for you ?
[ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So you're saying you were fine with all the private information gathering by the police and government and corporations until they came for you?
[wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29732763</id>
	<title>Re:I wish my state was like New Hampshire....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255452840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why is Government even allowed to use our driver licenses for anything other than driving, anyways?  I don't even carry mine unless I'm driving.  Why would I?</p></div><p>
Maybe having a national ID card, like most of the world, would help to avoid that.
</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why is Government even allowed to use our driver licenses for anything other than driving , anyways ?
I do n't even carry mine unless I 'm driving .
Why would I ?
Maybe having a national ID card , like most of the world , would help to avoid that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why is Government even allowed to use our driver licenses for anything other than driving, anyways?
I don't even carry mine unless I'm driving.
Why would I?
Maybe having a national ID card, like most of the world, would help to avoid that.

	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29732461</id>
	<title>Re:I wish my state was like New Hampshire....</title>
	<author>z4ns4stu</author>
	<datestamp>1255451460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>In Oklahoma and a few other states (Connecticut for sure) all adults are required by law to have photo identification on them at all times.  If you don't qualify for a DL, you can still get a State-issued ID card.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In Oklahoma and a few other states ( Connecticut for sure ) all adults are required by law to have photo identification on them at all times .
If you do n't qualify for a DL , you can still get a State-issued ID card .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Oklahoma and a few other states (Connecticut for sure) all adults are required by law to have photo identification on them at all times.
If you don't qualify for a DL, you can still get a State-issued ID card.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29733005</id>
	<title>But  then the Feds would have to pay for it.</title>
	<author>qwerty shrdlu</author>
	<datestamp>1255453980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If they can fob the program off on the states, they can duck the expense, too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If they can fob the program off on the states , they can duck the expense , too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they can fob the program off on the states, they can duck the expense, too.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29739217</id>
	<title>Re:I wish my state was like New Hampshire....</title>
	<author>tompaulco</author>
	<datestamp>1255438380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not only that, but they won't give you a driver's license unless you let them scan your thumbprint, which has absolutely nothing to do with driving, and everything to do with them butting into your business.<br>
The company I work for also required a fingerprint scan and when I asked them how they were going to insure that my prints wouldn't end up in some government database somewhere, they said it was almost certain that they would.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not only that , but they wo n't give you a driver 's license unless you let them scan your thumbprint , which has absolutely nothing to do with driving , and everything to do with them butting into your business .
The company I work for also required a fingerprint scan and when I asked them how they were going to insure that my prints would n't end up in some government database somewhere , they said it was almost certain that they would .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not only that, but they won't give you a driver's license unless you let them scan your thumbprint, which has absolutely nothing to do with driving, and everything to do with them butting into your business.
The company I work for also required a fingerprint scan and when I asked them how they were going to insure that my prints wouldn't end up in some government database somewhere, they said it was almost certain that they would.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29747017</id>
	<title>Oh, can you feel it?</title>
	<author>ThatsNotPudding</author>
	<datestamp>1255544940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just <i>feel</i> all that freedom!  Thanks for knowing what's best for me, Ghost of J Edgar Hoover!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just feel all that freedom !
Thanks for knowing what 's best for me , Ghost of J Edgar Hoover !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just feel all that freedom!
Thanks for knowing what's best for me, Ghost of J Edgar Hoover!
!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29734791</id>
	<title>Re:I wish my state was like New Hampshire....</title>
	<author>SBFCOblivion</author>
	<datestamp>1255461720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That is most certainly false.</p><p>Though, depending on which state you are in you may be required to at least <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop\_and\_identify" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">provide your name</a> [wikipedia.org]. According to the linked wikipedia page Oklahoma doesn't even have a 'stop and identify' law let alone a 'papers please' law.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is most certainly false.Though , depending on which state you are in you may be required to at least provide your name [ wikipedia.org ] .
According to the linked wikipedia page Oklahoma does n't even have a 'stop and identify ' law let alone a 'papers please ' law .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is most certainly false.Though, depending on which state you are in you may be required to at least provide your name [wikipedia.org].
According to the linked wikipedia page Oklahoma doesn't even have a 'stop and identify' law let alone a 'papers please' law.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29732713</id>
	<title>Re:I wish my state was like New Hampshire....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255452660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>In Oklahoma and a few other states (Connecticut for sure) all adults are required by law to have photo identification on them at all times.</p></div><p>[Citation Needed]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>In Oklahoma and a few other states ( Connecticut for sure ) all adults are required by law to have photo identification on them at all times .
[ Citation Needed ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Oklahoma and a few other states (Connecticut for sure) all adults are required by law to have photo identification on them at all times.
[Citation Needed]
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29733887</id>
	<title>Keeping a database without actually keeping one</title>
	<author>Adrian Lopez</author>
	<datestamp>1255458000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How long until the FBI does the same kind of end-run around the law by tapping into DMV biometric data? Right now the government can only obtain a person's fingerprints upon being arrested for some reason, but if the FBI adopts the same policy for DMV biometrics as for DMV pictures it could end up with a database of every licensed driver's biometric data without actually keeping such a database itself.</p><p>It seems to me they shouldn't get away with such a thing on a mere technicality of the law.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How long until the FBI does the same kind of end-run around the law by tapping into DMV biometric data ?
Right now the government can only obtain a person 's fingerprints upon being arrested for some reason , but if the FBI adopts the same policy for DMV biometrics as for DMV pictures it could end up with a database of every licensed driver 's biometric data without actually keeping such a database itself.It seems to me they should n't get away with such a thing on a mere technicality of the law .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How long until the FBI does the same kind of end-run around the law by tapping into DMV biometric data?
Right now the government can only obtain a person's fingerprints upon being arrested for some reason, but if the FBI adopts the same policy for DMV biometrics as for DMV pictures it could end up with a database of every licensed driver's biometric data without actually keeping such a database itself.It seems to me they shouldn't get away with such a thing on a mere technicality of the law.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29732299</id>
	<title>I wish my state was like New Hampshire....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255450740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>NH gives you the option to have your picture <b>removed from their database</b> after they print your license.  Too bad more states aren't that progressive.  Why is Government even allowed to use our driver licenses for anything other than driving, anyways?  I don't even carry mine unless I'm driving.  Why would I?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>NH gives you the option to have your picture removed from their database after they print your license .
Too bad more states are n't that progressive .
Why is Government even allowed to use our driver licenses for anything other than driving , anyways ?
I do n't even carry mine unless I 'm driving .
Why would I ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NH gives you the option to have your picture removed from their database after they print your license.
Too bad more states aren't that progressive.
Why is Government even allowed to use our driver licenses for anything other than driving, anyways?
I don't even carry mine unless I'm driving.
Why would I?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29735997</id>
	<title>Re:disturbing...</title>
	<author>smackmywhammy</author>
	<datestamp>1255467240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The nasty detail that seems to just whiz past most folks about biometrics:  they are not revocable, unless you're willing to cut off your finger(s), or disfigure yourself in some other way.  There are procedures for getting new SSNs, driver's license numbers, and so forth, revoking or rendering useless the old information as part of the process.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The nasty detail that seems to just whiz past most folks about biometrics : they are not revocable , unless you 're willing to cut off your finger ( s ) , or disfigure yourself in some other way .
There are procedures for getting new SSNs , driver 's license numbers , and so forth , revoking or rendering useless the old information as part of the process .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The nasty detail that seems to just whiz past most folks about biometrics:  they are not revocable, unless you're willing to cut off your finger(s), or disfigure yourself in some other way.
There are procedures for getting new SSNs, driver's license numbers, and so forth, revoking or rendering useless the old information as part of the process.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_13_148217.29733421</id>
	<title>NC DMV are a bunch of shitheads</title>
	<author>cats-paw</author>
	<datestamp>1255455900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I received a speeding ticket in NC WHICH I PAID - it was $100.</p><p>5 years later I'm trying to get a driver's license in ANOTHER STATE and can't because of my "ticket" in NC.</p><p>I have to call NC and I find out I have to send them another $25. The stupid DMV shithead on the other end of the phone won't tell me why exactly it is I need to do this considering I had already paid the ticket.</p><p>This is why cooperation between various government agencies is not a good thing.</p><p>Fuckers.  And yes, I am still bitter about it, why do you ask ?</p><p>I'd rather take my chances with Al-Qaeda than the government trying to "protect" me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I received a speeding ticket in NC WHICH I PAID - it was $ 100.5 years later I 'm trying to get a driver 's license in ANOTHER STATE and ca n't because of my " ticket " in NC.I have to call NC and I find out I have to send them another $ 25 .
The stupid DMV shithead on the other end of the phone wo n't tell me why exactly it is I need to do this considering I had already paid the ticket.This is why cooperation between various government agencies is not a good thing.Fuckers .
And yes , I am still bitter about it , why do you ask ? I 'd rather take my chances with Al-Qaeda than the government trying to " protect " me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I received a speeding ticket in NC WHICH I PAID - it was $100.5 years later I'm trying to get a driver's license in ANOTHER STATE and can't because of my "ticket" in NC.I have to call NC and I find out I have to send them another $25.
The stupid DMV shithead on the other end of the phone won't tell me why exactly it is I need to do this considering I had already paid the ticket.This is why cooperation between various government agencies is not a good thing.Fuckers.
And yes, I am still bitter about it, why do you ask ?I'd rather take my chances with Al-Qaeda than the government trying to "protect" me.</sentencetext>
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